gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

yeah probs somethin with a bit of range and capability to deal with smalls

since hel shottie its so for waves

maybs hel gun, HAR if u can control it, a machinegun

revo mayb

[civic wave]

revo is funny

high cal is another choice

you can really get away with anything though tbh

[ocean spindle]

i like stuff that doesnt have such a long reload cause hel shottie has it

and if possible long range but depends on the level

[white peak]

idk if its jus me or if hackett is genuinly slow in the head 🙁

[civic wave]

he's irish, please be understanding with him

if you're talking about bots they're all stupid

[narrow niche]

So true

[white peak]

oh.

[narrow niche]

They a bit slow

Forgive pls

[ocean spindle]

they r fine but have their quirks

[narrow niche]

You're too nice to them

[ocean spindle]

yes

i played 300 of my 500 hours with em

[narrow niche]

uwu

[ocean spindle]

every time i check again its 100 hours more now i got 600 ksmdkm

[white peak]

thats a lot of hours

[ocean spindle]

yes

i like this game

[sturdy glen]

You would be surprised

This game got some dedicated players

Or it did at least 😂

[narrow niche]

Mmmm

Addicted smh

Also that's how time works

[ocean spindle]

C:

[narrow niche]

:3

Ly

[surreal lake]

Another shotgun

[narrow niche]

Scattergun

Scatterfun

[sage pulsar]

how do bots decide which weapon they pull out during a run

[ocean spindle]

they try to balance ammo
thats about it

they dont take into account if its a sniper or a machinegun theyll use it the same

thats whys better to just give em long range automatics

[noble wind]

They barely try
30 main 70 special

Most of the time

They default to main wpn a lot

[sage pulsar]

...giving them burst rifle tho?

[noble wind]

Yes that works

Veruta machine gun too

[ocean spindle]

with that combo i always see em 40 50 or when they really low 20 16 or somethin

with other heavier lower ammo weapons they probs use more ammo cause they cant spam it as much

[noble wind]

I would be happy to swap with your bots

[plucky kayak]

Is there a way to try on Scouts without having to do a "normal" mission? I'm extremely bad with killing them and want to improve

[digital mural]

there is a modded rundown called "scouts playground"

[plucky kayak]

nice, thx. Last question for this night: Are there mods that are unpopular/getting you kicked?

like considered "cheating"

[digital mural]

only QoL mods are allowed in this server

QoL = Quality of Life

[plucky kayak]

is different coloured glowsticks considered QoL? 😄

[tardy ingot]

for example

[ocean spindle]

sure

[digital mural]

yes

[ocean spindle]

the best ones are just green ones either way so

[round arrow]

Makes me happier, which improves my quality of life

[civic wave]

Generally I'd say if a mod let's you do something new by adding functionality, it's a cheat

[ocean spindle]

if u make em red ur just fuckin urself so

eh

:3

[tardy ingot]

Theres definetly people who will try and make it seem like certain cheat like mods are qol

[civic wave]

The severity varies, but you get the idea

[plucky kayak]

yeah I just want to use ping everywhere and glowsticks, so i think i'm fine

[round arrow]

Make the glowies pink

[ocean spindle]

ping everything its the not fine one- why u ask for the glowsticks and not the ping everything ksmdkmdk

[digital mural]

ping everywhere is really political in here

[tardy ingot]

theres 3 things i want

Purple glowsticks
the ability to have multiple colours in a run
Purple glowsticks

[plucky kayak]

oh ok

[ocean spindle]

why was that ur choice between the two

[digital mural]

glowsticks are cool

thats why

[plucky kayak]

i played with a lot of people today that used ping everywhere

[civic wave]

Ping anywhere is boring

[plucky kayak]

that's the reason i didnt ask

[round arrow]

Make a mod that randomizes the glowstick color every run

[tardy ingot]

yea theres people who use perfect boosters too which is banned

[digital mural]

theres already one that randomizes every glowstick every time you throw it

[jagged shore]

Like what ooc

[tardy ingot]

Ooh

[round arrow]

hell yea

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[ocean spindle]

ping everythings usually like might be might not be, oficially its not endorsed but some people think idfferently

[plucky kayak]

yeah alright so i wont use ping everywhere when it's unpopular, no problem

[ocean spindle]

its just always about askin ur lobby

if they fine with it

[jagged shore]

I'm curious what mods you're referring to lol

[noble wind]

Still dunno what's wrong with that

[digital mural]

same

[tardy ingot]

perfect boosters

[digital mural]

but if people report you for using that
is better to avoid it

[jagged shore]

Perfect boosters is one obv

But past that lol

[ocean spindle]

just ask the people u playin 'hey i got ping everything u decide do i not or do i do'

[civic wave]

Boring as hell, funnier to let people run into enemies instead

[tardy ingot]

oh

[civic wave]

Or use your words

[noble wind]

Fk them

[round arrow]

It's best just to ask

[plucky kayak]

kk

[digital mural]

but it really depends on the team
so its better to ask if they are okay with it

i have seen people that dont care

[civic wave]

Likr I won't report someone exclusively for ping everywhere but if they're using it with other cheat mods I'll throw it in to the report

[digital mural]

perfect boosters

[ocean spindle]

i personally just gag and then play as normal

[plucky kayak]

u got some "cool" mods besides glowsticks that make someone happy

[tardy ingot]

Not necessarly as common

Heroic heart (no stam)
Sprint with heavy objects
Speed cheats
Sprint shooting (and more)
Sprint reloads
no recoil
endless mag
Endless tool
endless ressources generally
Custom boosters
Tweaked guns

[plucky kayak]

yeah I get the idea

thx

[digital mural]

custom boosters are nasty

[tardy ingot]

Most of the time people who use it are either very deep into the modding scene or just use a bunch of actual cheat mods

[jagged shore]

I mean I asked out of my own curiosity lol

[noble wind]

Fortunately those aren't easy to make work

[tardy ingot]

?

what

[noble wind]

Custom boosters

[jagged shore]

I forgot heroic heart exists lol
But yeah those are all cringe

[tardy ingot]

having someone with basivally 4 boosters in 1 is insanely stupid

[digital mural]

heroic heart?
first time i hear about it

[noble sierra]

Also the ability to combine resources and put resoures back to a locker/box

[digital mural]

@plucky kayak a cool mod is "custom death messages"
its pretty funny

[tardy ingot]

imo not quite as insane as the rest. But ye

[digital mural]

i recommend

[round arrow]

Yeah, honestly, ping everything is the only one that's like, on a line, where those are all obvious cheats.

This game's really restictive on your pings where most games aren't, so I can see people falling on both sides of that fence

[topaz anvil]

The biggest tragedy to occur on this server was classifying pingeverything as a cheat

[noble wind]

It's a dumb take

[digital mural]

||its something the game should had from the start||

🤷‍♂️

[round arrow]

Exactly what I mean

[topaz anvil]

Minus the pinging of enemies directly

Thats what the bio is for

[noble wind]

Considering we see holograms

[tardy ingot]

I like when games give me the freedom

but i also like when its restricted for a good reason (gtfo)

[ocean spindle]

considerin theres thermals to counter darkness and the fog exists like at all as a concept

aaa

idk about pinging sleepin enemies

[tardy ingot]

cuz whenever someone pings with ping everywhere i just get confused since its usually smth important thats pinged

[round arrow]

Mhmm. Personally, I think our ability to draw on the map is kinda the counter to this

It's supposed to be a bit clunky. Just communicate more.

[digital mural]

people pinging the wall for the 100th time

[tardy ingot]

Ping everything got removed for an actual reason

[tardy ingot]

as in counter argument. Or counter to no ping everywhere

[round arrow]

Sorry, unclear.

[tardy ingot]

ah nvm

I ddnt see you 2nd comment

anyway

Ping everywhere isnt a straight up cheat obviously. But its rly not a needed qol (like say turning off cocoon sounds)

[digital mural]

cocoon make sounds?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[jagged shore]

Especially with the new stuff hirnu's been finding about sound bug

[soft crater]

enables genshin flashlight

[ocean spindle]

they go brublueruruwuwuwububububluwu

when u get close

[noble wind]

How is it a cheat

[digital mural]

cough cough
is that a cheat?

[round arrow]

They wriggle

[hardy grotto]

ive heard artifacts can have an impact as well

but im not 100% on that

but im p sure they produce sound

[jagged shore]

They do

[hardy grotto]

god knows why

but

[tardy ingot]

i quite litteraly said it isnt a straight up cheat what

[soft crater]

+2 Motivation

[tardy ingot]

Wait wha wtf

[round arrow]

whuh

[digital mural]

what

[ocean spindle]

yes

have yall never come close to one

they sound yucky n cool

[round arrow]

I grabby

[digital mural]

i instantly pick it
i dont stop to hear if it talks

[round arrow]

I don't listen

[digital mural]

man

[noble wind]

Oh I read that as
"is a cheat" my b g

[jagged shore]

But you're missing out on all the secret lore they spit at you

[ocean spindle]

oh i thought the convo was about still cooccons im pretty sure artufacts dont do sound

but unsure

[tardy ingot]

i dont like ping all

Im not gonna call someone out for it (aside from spam useage) but i might get confused

I dont think its necessary to have at all.

nothin more

[jagged shore]

They do

@orchid solstice do you have that clip

[soft crater]

I can imagine no flashlight sway mod not being considered QoL @tardy ingot

[orchid solstice]

I'd need to find it

[soft crater]

But messing with it. It does prevent reload cancel bugging the flashlight

[jagged shore]

Reload cancel can bug the flashlight?

[noble wind]

Yes

Makes them slightly off center

[jagged shore]

How am I still hearing about new (to me) bugs what lol

[noble wind]

Well i also just knew bout artifacts making sounds

[noble wind]

It's nice when running with

[orchid solstice]

might not have the clip anymore

[jagged shore]

Noooo

[soft crater]

iirc when you see other people sprint with it. the flashlight doesn't sway and it's forward

[noble wind]

Yeah it only moves on your end which sucks

I'd like to see a lil

[ocean spindle]

dmg decreases as u move to the back to the side right

like if ur aiming right on the center of the back it does full back mg, but if u go 45 degrees it reduces by a certain number right

[bold ginkgo]

fr?

[ocean spindle]

iiiii am askin cause i am unsure

but i think it might be true

[latent obsidian]

Yes

There's a small angle where you get max back damage and then the multi scales down to a min of 1 as you move toward the front (broadly)

There is a really detailed wiki page on it

I'd recommend reading that for the proper explanation

[sage pulsar]

front-left of the enemy gives more dmg?

[frail heart]

Back and head does more damage

And its based on where you are positioned relative to the enemy. So even if you hit the enemy on the back while standing in front of it, it wont count as a back hit

Also back and head damage stack so back of head is the most damage

For most enemies

[past mesa]

Marginally based on the vector 3

[ocean spindle]

the hammer doesnt have the stagger to like perma stagger melee mom anymore does it

[past mesa]

No bat does

[ocean spindle]

but hammer like cant anymore

thats what i needed

so that wiki page part its alsooo gettin edited

[craggy pelican]

Are sleepers sensitive to lights frequencys we cannot see like infrared? 🤔 Asking for a friend...

[ocean spindle]

wdym
like

sleepers are sensitive to lights but u have thermals and that doesnt affect em

[halcyon current]

Tbf thermals don't project light

They capture projected infared light and display it

It's one of the reasons they don't work through windows

[native sun]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier

[reef geyser]

is HEL auto sentry good for crowd control ?

[craggy pier]

its good for stalling waves and thats it

typically not nearly as useful as burst sentry

but it can work sometimes

[reef geyser]

so good for R2E1 ?

[native sun]

not really, burst still mostly does better

[craggy pier]

havent tried but enemy density in surges probably overpowers it instantly

[reef geyser]

can 2 c foam gun and 1 turret good for the surge control ?

[native sun]

Which of the surges are you struggling with?

[craggy pier]

"wait there's more than 1?"

[reef geyser]

R2E1 first surge

[craggy pier]

try shooting things with your guns

[reef geyser]

the one with the door in the pit of fog

[craggy pier]

wait what

[native sun]

I'm gonna be brutally honest, if you can't clear the first surge it might not be the best idea to grind the level all that much. Come back to it later when you've built up some more skills kind of situation.

[reef geyser]

nah

imma do it

[native sun]

But if you are attempting it, double burst (one facing spawn, one facing the side door) is the way to do it.

[craggy pier]

R2E1 has a ton of different mechanics and scenarios that you can learn in easier levels under far less pressure and time commitment

[reef geyser]

i try finish the R2 then i take a break

c foam for ?

[native sun]

You do not have to complete the levels 'in order'

[craggy pier]

rundowns are not ordered by difficulty so if you want a less steep learning curve I would just do all the easy content first regardless of rundown

[native sun]

E tiers are balanced to be difficult even for the very best players, it is not intended to be approachable when you first encounter it

[craggy pier]

i think r2 has the largest difficulty spike between D and E tiers

and if ur new its even worse

[reef geyser]

i will finish everything in order of rundown even if i lose my shit

[native sun]

It's your life

gl

[craggy pier]

you do you ofc but i dont recommend

[reef geyser]

how many surge is there in r2e1

[craggy pier]

5

+1 other regular alarm

||and a ramping error||

[reef geyser]

what that suppose to mean

[craggy pier]

its a permanent alarm for the second "half" of the level that increases in difficulty over time

[sturdy glen]

5 + 1

[fierce walrus]

i always thought it was 5 surges

[craggy pier]

is the last door a surge?

[sturdy glen]

yes

[soft kiln]

prob forgot about the last class 3 cluster surge

[craggy pier]

holy shit im spreading misinfo

[fierce walrus]

Unforgivable

[craggy pier]

oopsie hehe

[fierce walrus]

nuke their house

[reef geyser]

does retire to lobby allow you to still keep the booster used ?

yes or no

@craggy pier can you help me please

sorry for ping

[lone mortar]

Nope

30s after a drop (as soon as your legs hit the ground of a level) any booster u used will be spent

[craggy pier]

yeah that

[sage pulsar]

what changed in the feb 14 patch?

[vagrant heart]

#patch-notes message,
#wiki-chat message

[sage pulsar]

if I go into r7b2 with just one bot, do I build him for crowd control or dmg

[reef geyser]

dmg

[sage pulsar]

should it run double tap? I'm not sure why we do it that way with 3 bots

[reef geyser]

if you going for 1 bot then bring it bio tracker and gun with a lot of ammo for it to spam

the bot accurate aim is uncertain

[sage pulsar]

what about giving it a carbine?

[reef geyser]

maybe

[sage pulsar]

bots do be useles against shadows

any special tips for that besides using bioscan

or does the bio tracker take less shooting uptime when a bot is using it

[reef geyser]

idk about bot dealing with the shadow cause i rarely bring any bot

so you gonna figure that yourself or ask someone else

[vagrant heart]

bots get a big buff with biotracker compared to humans using bio. bots can ping in a 360 degree circle around them (humans only ping enemies in the direction that the bio user is facing), they can ping from much further away, and the ping cooldown is much faster.

[hidden ridge]

The opposite

Even if you mean sleeping shadows

Bots dont give a shit if it's a tracked shadow or whatnot, they consider it the same as any other sleeper

[sage pulsar]

actual bio tracker wizards in my team and I didn't know

[hidden ridge]

While a human would need either a light source on them or them tracked or a thermal

Bots dont care about visibility, basically (in terms of fog or darkness)

[sage pulsar]

do they shoot running shadows from afar

I swear I saw them not do that

[hidden ridge]

They do the same they do as with every enemy that's awake (assuming the shadows are awake)

They straight up ignore the fact that shadows are "invisible"

Sentries, on the other hand, only shoot shadows if shadows are pinged

pings on shadows lasts around 8 secs, less than a normal sleeper, so that counts too

[reef geyser]

is gtfo achievements really that hard to get ?

[hidden ridge]

No they just got added like, what, 3 months ago?

[craggy pier]

depends what ones

but yeah the overall % achievement is very warped bcs they were added recently and it counts everyone whos opened the game ever

[reef geyser]

so they not like impossible

everyone just too lazy to get them

have anyone 100% completion achievements ?

[craggy pier]

yeah a bunch of ppl

[craggy pier]

no, alot of ppl just dont play the game anymore

[reef geyser]

fair enough

[reef geyser]

how many specisfic ?

[craggy pier]

idk man lol

i've done it and have some friends who have done it

[reef geyser]

how few is it to the point that some achievement is like 0%

even tutorial is lower than ful team wipe

[craggy pier]

why does it matter so much

[reef geyser]

idk i thinking about trying to 100% at some point

[frail heart]

Its because it compares it to EVERYONE who has opened the game, even people who quit 3 years ago

Also 100% isnt hard if you like the game

itll honestly just come with time

[craggy pier]

theres a few things you have to go out of your way for but most of it is just clearing levels

[hidden ridge]

Yeah to be honest the "hardest" one is perhaps Sum Total and that's just clearing all the levels, basically

Other than that, of the "specific" ones I guess the one about r8d1 with no healthpack/disinfection is the hardest?

[livid stone]

180+ logs 😔

[hidden ridge]

Compared to shit like "C level without using tools"

[hidden ridge]

But you can grab the log and die

[livid stone]

Yea but u have to grab tgem

[hidden ridge]

I'll admit I'm not super familiar with perhaps harsh logs to get but it sounds pretty reasonable with that considered

I guess the one at the end of r5d1 counts? Just do Main?

[livid stone]

I believe theres one at the end of r2e1

Forgot to check tho

[hidden ridge]

whatever, if it's before error it's not really hard

[soft crater]

It really isn't.

[hidden ridge]

Out of the specific ones?

What else is there?

[livid stone]

I mean like before the last surge

[hidden ridge]

D without breaking doors is easy r1d1, same for D with shotties

[livid stone]

Just dont go throuh the resource rooms and its impossible to fail that on r1d1

[hidden ridge]

Just go there and keep doors opened

[livid stone]

Its such a waste of time tho

U dont need it unless u like wake the scouts

[hidden ridge]

It's whatever

[smoky flax]

Hey, so i'm very new and have a question about the Hel gun. (the single shot special weapon thing) I have no idea if i'm using it correctly. It's recoil means I cant see anything that's happening and I don't know if my shots are very effective. Can someone help explain how to use that gun?

Thank you!!~ ❤️

[soft crater]

Hel gun pens 1 enemy into whatever is behind it

16.25 dmg

[hidden ridge]

If you get an orange hitmark you killed something, red cross means just hit, red doublecross thingy I think it's weakpoint so either backshot or headshot

[smoky flax]

I get the basics of it. Is it very accurate? I'm also a little confused on what "medium range" actually means lol

[soft crater]

15m - 90m

[hidden ridge]

#gtfo-chat message

In case you want numbers

[soft crater]

After 15m. Your dmg starts dropping. Anything past 90m. Your shot then does absolutely nothing (there are very few places and situations you need to shoot at something that fa r with hel gun anyhow)

[craggy pier]

1??? it hits 4...

[soft crater]

You can try pinging a Door and looking at the measurement on the ping to gauge the distance

[soft crater]

Was it buffed?

[craggy pier]

recently? no

[soft crater]

Or have I really.just not used hel gun in that long.

And iirc.

That's more 3 pens

Hits 4 enemies

[jaunty latch]

you sure your not just confusing it with hel revolver

[lone mortar]

[prime bison]

howto vc in game without discord

[zenith cloud]

im new to GTFO, avoided all spoilers and happy to play but i dont know how to announce that i wanna play with others. i saw the "how to match make" but still got some questions, like when i want to play all of R1 in one sitting how would i anounce that?

[livid stone]

you can do that by saying: 'wanting to complete the first rundown'

[zenith cloud]

ok thanks

[sage pulsar]

is it normal for scouts to be on r1a1

[civic wave]

yes

missions don't tend to have scout spawn amounts be RNG

[rapid briar]

scouts are set spawns

for the most part

[frail heart]

apart from that one room in that one level that i cant remember

yeah

[ocean spindle]

that one zone with that one different scout in that one level in that one game wth that one line of code

[rare blade]

When situations would you use all the different type of sentries in?

[sage pulsar]

is there an open room divider at the zone 52 keycard door in r1a1

[sturdy glen]

sniper -
auto -
shotgun -
burst - everything else

[civic wave]

the only room divider in zone 49 is from A (drop down) to B (first proper room)

[ocean spindle]

no

theres also one in 52

from D to E

its an upstairs

thats why people get confused about the HSU

[civic wave]

the hsu is not in zone 49

[sage pulsar]

where do you guys learn to use melee more often against awake enemies

[noble wind]

drop into r2c2 if u have that unlocked and practice there

[craggy pier]

???

also known as r2c2

[neat aurora]

r7c3 for melee practice

[craggy pier]

he asked for awake enemies, not sleeping giants

[peak geode]

Burst - Anytime
Sniper - Really long sight lines, such as the defense spot in R1C1
Shotgun - Never
HEL Auto - Never

😭 I really want the last two turrets to be viable, but there will never be a proper patch for them

[tardy ingot]

hel auto has a few viable situations

[craggy pier]

^

[turbid horizon]

R8B4 hel auto my beloved

[hidden ridge]

Wasn't shotgun sentry used for 2-man r4e1 extreme?

[tardy ingot]

ye
tbh shotgun sentry isnt completely unviable
but in so many situations its just better to use other sentrys
in my personal opinion shotgun sentry is just a failed product due to it being shitty to balance

[hidden ridge]

I use it when there's very short chokepoints that do not really allow for sniper, but more out of novelty than anything

R4B1 Extreme just outside the bulkhead for example

[peak geode]

Felt a lot easier to get a HEL Shotgun / HEL Pistol to get that stagger and clump up 💀

The turret feels so, so greedy

If it shot a little slower it would've been so nice

[ocean spindle]

well yeah but those are weapons and its not like ur always gonna be in front of the wave to stagger it
specially on an alarm where u have to move from team scan to team scan or somethin

[low hawk]

Pls recommend me a good build

[hidden ridge]

Hammer, gavel, maul and sledgehammer

[ocean spindle]

pistol pistol pistol sentry and pistolhammer

ok no

uh carbine for easeness of use, normal shotgun for dmg and easeness, burst sentry cause sentry and hammer cause its good

or the bio

sentry or bio idk

[rapid briar]

what special pairs well with the hel autopistol

[digital mural]

combat shotgun

or choke mod

[rapid briar]

thanks mate

[hidden ridge]

Depends on map but popular choices for main are HEL Revolver and Carbine. Special-wise it's a bit more dependant on what the team needs but the gist is Veruta MG for wave-clear, CombatShotty for efficiency, Scattergun to kill big things, HEL Rifle for cases where enemies get in line and if you want good range

Popular Mains are also HEL Shotty if you know what you're doing and HEL Autopistol for staggering enemies

[ocean spindle]

uh id say anythin that u can like swap to kill fast a big chunk of people, maybs long range since autopiss has so lil range so machinegun or chokemod, combat to start killin, hel gun cause hel gun goes with everything

etc etc

[digital mural]

hel pistol pairs good with a lot of weapons

so maybe try all specials and see what works for you

[hidden ridge]

context?

I pick specials based on what's missing

[dry pumice]

When in doubt - High Cal, Choke Mod or any of the HELs.

[soft crater]

Hel Auto/ Combat shotgun

Of course. You could take other weapons if you want range

[vital pasture]

So, the knife has a back multiplier, precision multiplier, and a sleeping multiplier. Does anyone have a formula or a method of understanding of how the damage is calculated as me and my friend are very confused on what takes priority or anything as this is confusing on why the knife has all this yet no other melees have any besides the spear with precision (which is straight-forward)

[ocean spindle]

ok so knife is kinda funky but u dont really need to know what takes priority over what, they all add up to the same result, for example hittin a striker in the back while its sleepin
from the stats i understand which i might be wrong

• 5.5 dmg of the charge
• 1.5x of sleepin
• 1.7x of backstab
• 2x weakness of a striker in the back

[civic wave]

the modifiers can stack

they're multiplicative

[ocean spindle]

they all add up to about 28 dmg or so

[civic wave]

you just take whatever applies and use it

[ocean spindle]

its way easier to just know what breakpoints u can do instead of knowin the math to get there

[tardy ingot]

all weapons have a precison multi

bat and hammer just have 1x

[ocean spindle]

knife can -with a full charge and while sleepin- kill strikers in the head and back , shooters only in the head, kill scouts in the occiput
and while awake knife can break limbs of giant strikers from the back

and for chargers its a full charge and then any bit of dmg while sleepin too

im gonna rephrase that

[soft crater]

Iirc

[tardy ingot]

same for shooters

[soft crater]

Backstab for knife can just be 3.4x

[ocean spindle]

1.5 of sleepin and 1.7 of backstab?

and then uh what other

[soft crater]

And ye. If I ever have knife I use em as practice. You need full back damage to consistently get the full charge and then just a slash though.

[soft crater]

1.5 / 1.5 / 3.4 (this is the 2 x 1.7)

[ocean spindle]

do all enemies have a x2 in the back?

[soft crater]

With exceptions of specific tumors iirc

Majority do. (At least the ones you would be using knife for)

[ocean spindle]

i knife ||krakens||

:3

[noble wind]

yes except pabulo

and tanks

and moms

and kraken

[soft crater]

If all those conditions all check. Iirc it's 7.65x to knife charged damage

So you could do 420.75 damage with knife to a sleeping shooter occi

[tardy ingot]

ye

[soft crater]

Sorry. I meant Potatoes

[vital pasture]

Dude, 1x means that there is no multiplier. It means that there is no addition for a precision hit. 1 x 1 = 1 so I'm unsure how you are meaning that there is one when it is literally pointless to mention the indifference?

[civic wave]

Every weapon has a precision multiplier, and there is no getting around it. You can say that functionally there is no precision multiplier, but saying a weapon does not have one is outright wrong.

[tardy ingot]

^

just because 1x can be ommited doesnt mean there is none

[sturdy glen]

its also kinda worth mentioning cuz the "baseline" precision in this game is generally 0.7413

[frail heart]

Fr

[narrow niche]

Indifference is not lack of difference

[ocean spindle]

a precision of 1 its gonna make it hit harder than a precision of 0.7

[soft crater]

there's a difference a less than 1x precision and a 1x precision

they could just look at the guns and melee on the wiki and see their precision multipliers as well if they really need to figure out the difference

then again

can you imagine they give a Melee less than 1x precision

[tribal flower]

did yall see the work together achievement isn't bugged anymore?

[hazy wedge]

What’s work together. Never heard of that 😏

[soft crater]

Can we work together to get the "Die together" achievement

[hazy wedge]

That’s too hard. I don’t die 😆

[narrow niche]

So real

[civic furnace]

I can show what "working" together is :3 😏 😏

[frail heart]

AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rare blade]

It’s the cake factory guy!!!

Real

[frail heart]

did you end up clearing r4e1?

[sage pulsar]

How do you practice kiting swarms? When I try to run I lose hp faster than my teammates.

[ocean spindle]

its a thing of knowin lil tricks of where to jump to save time or cut corners, enemy pathin to know where to run when u funnel em down one way, knowin where to shoot to stop and save stamina to not go 180 immediatly etc etc etc

[sage pulsar]

...uwu

[rare blade]

No, we got gave it 3 attempts, pretty interesting story

First: we got through some of main and got rolled because we took to long on a tank

Second: Finished more of main but screwed around to long and got rolled

[soft crater]

Ayo. Thick Cake???

[rare blade]

Third attempt: we got through a lot of main hit through and then we got to secondary reactor and like wave 3 got hit from the front and back

That’s what she said

[rare blade]

“Guys, guys, there’s enough ass for all of you”- @frail heart

Or something like that

[frail heart]

That is a certified frosty quote

[ocean spindle]

incredible fros of ty

[frail heart]

Also pretty sure reyna messaged you, but at some point in about 7 hours if ur still up we can get you through it

[rare blade]

We eating good tonight with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️ 🔥 🔥🔥🔥

[rare blade]

Oh, ur Reyna’s friend

[frail heart]

Yeah

[rare blade]

I was told he was gonna send someone over and then said

“Nah go f yourself”

Or something like that

(Jk thank you for the offer reyna if ur reading this)

[frail heart]

Lmao

Yeah reyna says that

He told me to go over and i said fuck no

[rare blade]

Did ur Timbers get shivered or busy?

[frail heart]

na i just cant be fucked carrying 3 people through r4e1 tbh

[rare blade]

HEY!

[frail heart]

LMAO

[rare blade]

I’ll have you know I’m a strong independent non women who can get their own stuff done!

[frail heart]

Solo the level

[rare blade]

Go f yourself!

nah but we got close ish

[frail heart]

What was your reactor setup?

[rare blade]

I swear we had a very solid team idk overall why we got rolled

2 burst sentries

2-3 guys up front defending and third guy codes

It got really weird the last wave our system kinda derailed

The person going for codes didn’t get the bio I think that’s why

[frail heart]

What was your tool setup?

Na bio defends the reactor

[rare blade]

Mine, bio, 2 burr sentries

[sage pulsar]

wher c foam

[frail heart]

Okay so mines and 1 turret guy go for codes while bio and other defend

[frail heart]

useless on this level

[rare blade]

It’s not as useful for this one I think

[sage pulsar]

humu

[rare blade]

Bluds spitting 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[rare blade]

He had mines at least

[frail heart]

Yeah you need mines

Also all enemies from reactor spawn outside the secondary door

[rare blade]

I thought the meta was 3 defending though because if they screw up getting the codes 2 people getting railed is worse than 1

[rare blade]

Hmm

Can’t they spawn from behind at a certain point?

[frail heart]

No

[rare blade]

2 rooms behind no?

[frail heart]

Nope

[rare blade]

Why this one different

[frail heart]

Spawns work differently

Its like that on many levels

Spawns have set locations

[rare blade]

Crazy

[frail heart]

Because if enemies could spawn anywhere on this level room with 4 moms would just wake up

would make the level horrendous

[rare blade]

We get railed before moms come

[frail heart]

Oh

[rare blade]

It already is 🗣️

[frail heart]

By reactor waves?

[rare blade]

Yeah

Something always go wrong

[frail heart]

Ok tbh not tryna be rude or anything but thats honestly just a skill issue

[rare blade]

HEY

I blame everywhere else but me

[frail heart]

LMAO

[rare blade]

I’m just peak GTFO evolution

[frail heart]

2 people defending should be enough

can do 3 but its really slow and you will probably run out of resources

so not viable

[rare blade]

Fair fair

[frail heart]

Can show you how it goes tho if you play with us

Can probably have you come in to get codes

[rare blade]

Blud wants the idiot to get the important job🗣️

[frail heart]

Getting codes is easier than defending lmao

[rare blade]

Cwazy

[frail heart]

Also

[rare blade]

I keep forgetting how to get codes 😭

[frail heart]

You can pick now if you want. Go get codes with crazy german or an australian

[rare blade]

You forgot to put crazy before Australian

There all crazy

[frail heart]

i mean compared to reyna

id say im pretty tame lol

how bout i put it this way, the guy with 500 hours or the guy with 2.6k hours

[rare blade]

Okay dump track having ass

500 is bigger than 2.6 🗣️🙏🙏🙏

[frail heart]

lmao

anyway

pick your poison

[rare blade]

500 because more chance for failure

[frail heart]

australian it is

[rare blade]

Does blud have an accent

[frail heart]

not a heavy one

but i can'

[rare blade]

Perfection

You remind me of snake because-

“The sound of my ass cheeks are alerting the guards”

I keep remembering that amazing quote

[frail heart]

Lmao

[rare blade]

Okay so ur the German?

[frail heart]

yeah anyways one of us will dm you when we are on

no i am the aussie

[rare blade]

This is confusing me🗣️

So who has 2600 hour

[frail heart]

Im the aussie with 500 hours, reyna is the crazy german with 2.6k

[rare blade]

Crazy how

[frail heart]

then we will have another guy with 1.1k

hes a crazy romanian

[rare blade]

Bluds team is stacked like his ass!

[frail heart]

he goes crazy for bbcs

[rare blade]

Woah there

[frail heart]

i aint lyin

[rare blade]

What type of bbc are we talking about

[frail heart]

the big black ones

that lick you

and step on you

[rare blade]

Wowzers

Even i can’t handle allat🙏

So ur telling me

You basically have an entire team

That is gonna grab my ass

And carry it to the finish line?

[frail heart]

yessir

[rare blade]

Where do i sign🗣️🗣️

[frail heart]

also reyna has 57 clears of the level i believe

all with secondary

[rare blade]

Look in them dms

He stated it very casually

[frail heart]

He just tryna flex lmao

Ill let him flex more, he has the WR speedrun for the level

[hardy grotto]

But he doesn’t

if you’re talking about r4e1

[frail heart]

Decide to step in now lol?

[hardy grotto]

it’s a cope to say he does

[rare blade]

Why is gerz like the final boss or opp for everyone in this server🗣️

[frail heart]

Good for you 😄 👍

[hardy grotto]

I wouldn’t even say im the final boss lol

[frail heart]

No fuckin idea

[terse sable]

i got a gtfo question idk what im doing and i need help

[hardy grotto]

I just show up when I want to

[frail heart]

Fr

[native sun]

What's up?

[terse sable]

i just got it

[rare blade]

That’s not a question that’s a statement🗣️ but ask away

[terse sable]

i need help

[rare blade]

For what?

[terse sable]

idk what im doing

[frail heart]

Lemme rephrase then, reyna has the official r4e1 wr

[rare blade]

Wdym

[waxen jetty]

"official"

[frail heart]

Okay Rick

[hardy grotto]

You guys cling so hard to that

[rare blade]

Okay ur a mini boss

[hardy grotto]

it’s not that deep panda I wouldn’t say anyone is any kind of boss

We just play the game

[native sun]

Team, we don't need to debate who has more clears in a level

[waxen jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428365321787670538/1210461374824583219/image.png?ex=65eaa501&is=65d83001&hm=6eedb7eeb4422df3d55a019e9d033eedc5b8e2fa7e86c23fb4e3050b20469792&

guys so official

[frail heart]

We aint debating

Just unnecessary drama

[rare blade]

But it’s funny to me calling u a final boss🗣️

[terse sable]

nvm ill try to play one person

[hardy grotto]

It’s not a debate it’s just correcting misinfo

[rare blade]

Facts

[hardy grotto]

they do not have the fastest r4e1 run, that belongs to us

They have the fastest run on speedrun.com, sure

But our run is the faster run

[frail heart]

Sure

I know

But make it official

[hardy grotto]

Team is banned

[rare blade]

You can make a party in the lfg beginners to make a custom description asking for help and someone to guide you

[hardy grotto]

hence why I kept my colourful name

[frail heart]

Hmmm weird

[rare blade]

Also the game is more balanced around 3-4 people, I would suggest if you have any more speific general knowledge questions you can go to YouTube and watch some tutorial and stuff, but making a party provides a more direct explanation

[craggy pier]

hi guys whats good

[rare blade]

WW3

[craggy pier]

;(((

[frail heart]

ello mate

[rare blade]

There’s a tiny section calling “how to matchmake” you can learn how to make a party with

[hardy grotto]

#gtfo-media message

Marvel at our pace

crazy speed

[rare blade]

Why is it plural, you and who else

[hardy grotto]

toxic clique

It’s not like I soloed it faster than they did as 4

Of course it’s gonna be plural

[native sun]

@hardy grotto @frail heart Enough. Drop it. You want to be petty do it somewhere else.

[lusty bramble]

didn't you just play heckdivers together

[rare blade]

Oh, I’m stupid idk why I didn’t think about that

[frail heart]

I did but mb

[rare blade]

He’s the hero we all needed

[drifting orbit]

is it petty to claim you have the fastest time when you got the fastest time

[hardy grotto]

hardly see this as petty tru ngl, again it’s just correcting misinfo

[lusty bramble]

#gtfo-media message

[arctic marten]

#gtfo-media message

[desert marlin]

#gtfo-media message

[digital mural]

what a nice view i have come back to

[rare blade]

Nuclear weapons isn’t such a bad idea-phonk music starts playing

[frail heart]

Mb for not being super specific

[digital mural]

anyways

[hardy grotto]

it’s all good

[digital mural]

how hard is R7D2 compared to R7D1

[lusty bramble]

@paper surge I do not think they changed the slug shotgun accuracy

you people have to relax, tru has to custom make all his gtfo warnings

doesn't want everyone to know he wrote all of his unsigned messages

[arctic marten]

he should let chat gpt generate them

[frail heart]

Welcome back mountainman

[arctic marten]

shut the fuck up bitch

[digital mural]

damn

poor Frosty2.0

[hardy grotto]

didn’t you guys miss him

[frail heart]

You're so cute when you're angry ☺️

[hardy grotto]

He’s always such a kind soul

[arctic marten]

i have spent a long time in the reflection server and ould like to apoligize for my message

[hardy grotto]

An upstanding member of society

[craggy pier]

@arctic marten OMG UR BACK YAYYY

[waxen jetty]

you were in reflection serer too?

[arctic marten]

no, wish i was

my reflection server is dow

[rare blade]

Redemption arc???

This server has ppl lore, love to see it

[olive smelt]

Hello guys!
Any help on tactics for R1C1?
We've utilized almost all the possible positioning of turrets and ourselves but it just seems unbearable
ofc, we're no snipers but we're trying to play with shotguns and automatic guns

[craggy pier]

[arctic marten]

stop harassing me

[digital mural]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like sniper rifle is useful (especially for hybrids that will launch a 40 dmg barrage from across the map). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

@olive smelt

[lone mortar]

[olive smelt]

thank you!

[rare blade]

Jesus Christ

Couldn’t have you just said “skill issue” 😭

[digital mural]

no

we all had skill issue on R1C1

no point in saying it

[rare blade]

W mans

[olive smelt]

so based

im just playing with the ribbon on my eyes and hands tied behind my back

[rare blade]

The fact you have allat at the ready shows a lot about how much ppl ask about that level

[digital mural]

i got tired of explaining slowly everything
so i just sent the copypasta i had saved for some reason

its like

[rare blade]

Idk how long you plan on playing this game but be warned, R4C3 is just getting kicked in the balls simulator

[digital mural]

the third/fourth time today someone asks about r1c1

[rare blade]

You know even when I was a complete noob, I never had to much trouble with R1C1 I think I just needed 2 attempts and got stumped on D1 or something like that

[olive smelt]

for now I just need to pass at least R1 so that I'm not done with this game

[rare blade]

W grind

[digital mural]

i didnt had trouble with R1C1
(i got semi-carried)

[rare blade]

C missions are just harder than D missions for no explainable reason at times

[serene hull]

Would anyone like to do some missions with me?

I'm in team 39.

[rare blade]

No!

Jk

Can’t rn, but did you make an invite in lfg beginners?

[serene hull]

idk how to

[rare blade]

#how-to-matchmake

It says everything

But in short in simply: go to create team, either of 2, 3, and 4

Recommend 4

Hit create invite next to that, should a plus sign in ur team

Copy and paste it into lfg beginners

DONE

but you obv add stuff like

The code

The mission, and a quick description so you get players you want to play with

And Region

[serene hull]

Good thing is, I was able to get to level 4 with my buddy and bots.

on r1C1

[rare blade]

You’ve never made a party before?

[serene hull]

Only with my friend and 2 bots, but yeah. that's the gist of it.

[rare blade]

Crazy!

Making a party here is pretty simple so glad u got it

A small thing you don’t gotta do but recommend is putting in status

The level and code again

And don’t be afraid to make custom descriptions for party

[serene hull]

I'm to the point, inside jokes will be made in the Vc, in my opinion

[rare blade]

Another thing ppl put in their parties you may have missed is stuff like “lf3m, or lf2”

[serene hull]

???

[rare blade]

That stands for “looking for 3 more people”

Or “looking for 2 more”

You should put it in the invite to know the count, you might get more ppl the more you do that

[peak geode]

@tardy ingot Would you consider making a video showcasing / explaining how to quickly clean out rooms with melee only for those still struggling with just slow stealthing it? Talking mostly about a possible future thing.

[rare blade]

If you get somebody update it so it tempts more people to join

[serene hull]

I'll likely be waiting a while.

[hazy wedge]

Step 1: Throw melee weapon
Step 2: ???
Step 3: die

[rare blade]

Normally it’s fast, sometimes it’s slow

[rare blade]

Whatever region ur in, you can add it to the people that can join you

[serene hull]

I'm so confused

[rare blade]

There’s a #lfg-north-america for example

That you can put ur invite in to get people from there

To increase who can join through ur invite

@serene hull ur in R1 so there is no or but when you get to that point you should add the emojis to ur thing to know what ur trying to complete

Rn if you want you can put

[serene hull]

???

I'm confused as to why those emojis are relevant.

[rare blade]

Your doing R1 so those basically don’t matter because all your doing right now is the main objective

[serene hull]

oh

[rare blade]

But in later levels there’s all those

[serene hull]

maybe not then.

[rare blade]

You should specify that to make sure the ppl who join u know what’s up

[serene hull]

too much for me to really handle

I just wanted to play and vibe, i didn't know all this crap was needed

kinda rethinking this entire game now.

[rare blade]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

my bad

[mental radish]

Game invites scary

[rare blade]

Okay so that’s more gist of it, it’s much more simpler, the game itself is complicated but it can be broken down into its simpler thing

The invite system is more whatever you want it to be, technically you don’t even need half of it

[serene hull]

no, i mean rethinking having installed an played it.

[topaz anvil]

Tldr: to find others: in lfg channel, post the level you want to do, the lobby invite, and an optional voice channel invite. Profit

[rare blade]

The rate of when ppl join is slower at times but it can be fast at times to

[rare blade]

Why is Bluds pfp built like that

[topaz anvil]

Licker

[serene hull]

I'ma play minecraft instead.

[topaz anvil]

Aight

[rare blade]

Aight

Bro i can’t get over ur pfp😭

[mental radish]

The ultimate build

[rare blade]

It don’t gotta be in order, you can join others ppl party and vibe, it isn’t always 24/7 maddness

[topaz anvil]

This is what peak performance looks like

[serene hull]

I don't feel comfy just popping in.

[olive smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[rare blade]

Ppl want you to pop in though, that’s why they send them out fr fr

90% of the ppl here are chill and don’t care ong

[rare blade]

Ur my new idol 🗣️

[serene hull]

I just got a lot of nonsense in my braincase that rattles those bad vibes.

[topaz anvil]

Are you looking for a scrap blud?! Square up fam

[rare blade]

Nah nah, the bad vibes is just the amazing atmosphere of the game, I wasn’t good with explaining it to

[serene hull]

no, the bad vibes in my braincase make others' vibes bad.

[rare blade]

No no! I find ur pfp very memorizing that’s all!

[rare blade]

Man that don’t matter just join and find out! Just avoid harder missions that have a D or E in it though

[topaz anvil]

Try not to post r2e1 in lfg beginner challenge impossible

[rare blade]

I really wish they added a more experienced player section😭

[topaz anvil]

It's called every other channel

[soft kiln]

I think they need to add a lfg-must-have-mic

or lfg-must-know-what-to-do

[rare blade]

Ehh, that’s not always the case plus it’s not beginners, more find a party lfg half the time

It says beginners but everyone from fresh install to 10000 hour guy use it

[topaz anvil]

That's the problem

It's meant to be just A and B tier missions in my mind

Those are your beginner tier missions

But noooo, r8e2 has shown up there

[rare blade]

I feel that’s way to restrictive, beginners is the first thing everyone sees, so it should be viable for everyone no matter the skill level, so there should be more incentive like in another chat room to move the more experienced else where

And not every B and A mission is friendly to new players to

Especially with

[topaz anvil]

But e tier is?

[rare blade]

No, but new players won’t know the difference between the B with and those without it

[topaz anvil]

The definition of beginner varies from person to person in this game, but if you, a completely new player can get through R1A1, R1B1, R1B2, R1C1. Same wiith the first missions of r2, then I'd argue you aren't a beginner anymore, you are just inexperienced

[rare blade]

But wouldn’t you support a new lfg channel to direct more experienced players?

And beginners are encouraged to make their own party with their own custom descriptions to get help

[topaz anvil]

I'd prefer tier specific channels

Lfg-Atier etc

[topaz anvil]

Also, both the names and the sector icons are pretty good at indicating that optionals are gonna be more difficult.

[rare blade]

Ehh, I guess it helps with sorting but not with helping newer players because:

[rare blade]

How so?

[topaz anvil]

Back in the day when sector names were (Threat level) High, Extreme and Overload you could intuit that the latter was harder than the former. Secondly, the large cracked skull definitely conveys more danger than a small, undamaged skull with no fear factor to it.

I'm still malding over the change to sector names but I'll live

But despite the name change, the fact that you have to commit to choosing (most of the time) to go do something else should imply that it's gonna make the game harder, or at the very least more lengthy.

In a different game, one might see an optional objective and try and go for it but will be able to do it on the way. In gtfo, it requires a conscious decision. + If you have figured out terminals, you might consider searching for other bulkhead keys but that's a stretch for beginners

[peak geode]

I just wanna comment on the zoomer speak

Read that entire exchange

Felt like I was learning a new English dialect

I ain't hating on it, it just a tad surreal

The new lingo is hilarious

[tawny lodge]

whats the best loadout to use

[peak geode]

There is no best loadout, AFAIK

Each mission has its particular needs

From my 150hrs of gameplay it's usually: Are there ”X enemy?” We need Y gun/melee. Is it gonna be a low visibility mission? We might need to ditch long range weapons and maybe get Thermals.
For example: are we gonna fight a lot and it's gonna be small enemies (Striker or Shooter), then the Knife, the Shotguns, and the LMGs are gonna be useful. Mines and turrets as well

cc @tawny lodge

If we go in blind, my squad usually balances our loadout to include a bit of everything: 1x Knife for fast smalls killing, 3xHammmers, 1x Koenig Sniper for headshotting Giants, 1x Close Range Weapon, 1x Scattergun, 1xThermal, 1x Mines, 1-2xBurst Turrets. Everything else is up to whatever we feel like

Experiment with different loadouts and tools, try all the melees, don't get hardstuck in one role or tool: the Mines person, the Radar person, the Sniper, the Close Range specialist etc

[drifting orbit]

how many scatter gun is it at 100 meters to kill the hybrid man with body shots only pleeeeease

[radiant herald]

7

[whole stirrup]

There are definitely a few trap weapons

IMO at least

[narrow niche]

~.45 i think

[hidden ridge]

I'll never get the discussions around those things

"Are you okay with beginners in your group? Post in beginners channel" "Want only people that know what they're doing? Post it in the ad for the group"

No need for 300 channels or whatnot

No need to hate people who put "beginners only" or "know what you're doing" in their posts, really, since it's all relevant to what they are searching for

It CAN get silly with some shit like "r7e1 ONLY PEOPLE WHO REACHED REACTOR" (how are you going to verify that anyway lel)

But whatever

[spring ocean]

I don't get the appeal of hammers, I much like my Spear more, and it has a lingering hitbox so in case I somehow whiff a stab I can turn and still get the hit

[peak geode]

Hammer is more mobile, less stamina hungry - I think - and does the same job as the spear

You can't charge and sprint with a Spear

[spring ocean]

which to me makes no sense because people run with spears all the time

[peak geode]

You can't charge or keep the charge while sprinting with a Spear

[noble sierra]

You can, you just sprint slower

[peak geode]

Can you?

Damn

I stand corrected

[noble sierra]

They changed it since alt:R6

[spring ocean]

I still prefer my spear either way
makes clearing easier imo and more reliable vs scout

they have higher ground than me? I can still unicorn them

[peak rain]

Yk how in combat, your pulse matters and all? I know it’s basically your stamina, but what does it mean when your hp turns yellow? I normally never let it get that high in the first place to find out cause I’m scared of it lol

[frail heart]

Nothing you just start breathing real heavy lol

[peak rain]

You're telling me I’ve been afraid of my guy breathing heavily this entire time?

[ocean spindle]

its just an indication ur pretty much like out of stamina, and u either stop runnin to recover or u move like if u were chargin a spear

it doesnt dmg u nor anything its just a visual

[peak rain]

Okok, ty. I really thought something bad was gonna happen if I kept pushing it lmfao

Appreciate it

[digital mural]

heart attack

[ocean spindle]

dies

[peak rain]

DEADASS I thought the second phase was it turns red and I start taking damage lmfao

[digital mural]

always keep the pulse below 130

to not have much trouble

[ocean spindle]

remember chargin ur melee does not affect stamina, but swinging does

[peak rain]

130, got it

[peak rain]

Even the knife? I thought the knife didn't drain stamina

[ocean spindle]

i believe it has a lower cost of stamina, but i could be wrong

it does consume less one way or the other i do know that

[digital mural]

it doesnt consumes stamina

[peak rain]

I thought so, I remember seeing somewhere the knife didn't but the others did, the spear being the most draining. Hammer was either the same or just below it idk. Ty though

[spring ocean]

I'll be real
I didnt know stamina even existed in the game

[lusty bramble]

Holy shit it's spyro

I don't think that buckle up is necessarily problematic but for new killers it definitely adds a layer of difficulty to adapt to a multi solution situation while not entirely understanding the base mechanics of the killer you're playing with

There certainly needs to be more leniency with the learning curves both killers and survivors have

[rare blade]

The Gen z stuff or wdym? I tend to screw around a lot with what I say tbh

[lusty bramble]

But I assume that killers will always be situational as most killers play completely differently from one another

The possibility that the core chase mechanic and gameplay can be undermined by a killers power brings a lot of nuance to something otherwise simple

But we can really find that dynamic in every game we play

Take example comparing snipers to shotguns to assault rifles

There's elements of those weapons that can change the dynamic of how a shooter feels to play

But when those elements aren't properly implemented, we can have an issue where a common baseline, the assault rifles, can be outright ignored for the two more popular extremes

Simply because there's more inherent value in them

[mossy aurora]

L rizz

[lusty bramble]

Why use a balance ar when you can use the more powerful shotgun or sniper options

When the starting point is unimpressive there's really no point to start and learn from there

Rather it's better to jump into the deep end and learn the more powerful options from the get go

But it's only mainly an issue when those weapons actively harm what the baseline is supposed to be

[rare blade]

I wouldn’t say we should add any more than 1 tbh, just one more with a more dedicated for the more experienced. Now of course there would be no way of verifying if ur experienced or not but like the fact it has some level of separation should help a bit for the newer players. Yeah sure newer players could come in the lfg experienced players but unless they’re trolls they wouldn’t wanna screw over their teams with 3 hours total. I feel like most would respect the boundary and even if beginners came in it would be nice to still have the section yk?

[lusty bramble]

Like killers who can outright ignore walls, pallets, and loops, the very core of dead by daylights design, weapons that simply do more because of penetration just seems unhealthy for a game whose weapons are balanced around similar damage efficiencies in their respective groups

[rare blade]

😭

[lusty bramble]

When a weapon can do simply more than its balanced damage efficiency, then that weapon is, in most scenarios, the better option to choose

Then the argument around weapon design and balance is centered around the top few weapons, rather than the intended baseline

Not to say that a powerful weapon or killer is worthless as a benchmark

It's certainly important information to know exactly where the extremes lie

I.e. what is necessarily too powerful

But a lot of these important weapon balance learning opportunities were completely missed with simply the inclusion of rundown specific weapons

When you could just remove the problem child from the equation, there was no purpose to try and fix the problem then and there

[rare blade]

Idk what beep talking about but let him cook🗣️🔥

[lusty bramble]

And when the problem does arise again, you don't have the proper context for how to properly address it. Rather, you only have what people vaguely remember the problem to be.

[delicate sorrel]

Aside from redoing the levels, is there a way to find the most updated code for R8A2 secondary?

[lusty bramble]

We can see both scenarios with the scattergun.

[rare blade]

Ain’t the codes randomized or something

[lusty bramble]

Originally, in rundown 6, the problem was properly addressed to make the weapon still functional but not overpowered to where bosses could be killed almost instantly.

But, given some time of it being outright removed, those original balance decisions were forgotten. The weapon was put back into the state it was where it was originally deemed to be problematic.

Inconsistency is the issue. Which only comes from the lack of communication between the departments involved. I love fat bitches. It's why the assault rifle has gone without the proper attention and care It's needed for a long time.

[peak geode]

Yeah, I find it fascinating

[rare blade]

With the lfg experience discussion I didn’t actually use that much gen z slang that was more me yapping

[rare blade]

Bluds not apart of the neutron style!

I really sad I couldn’t post the gif for that

[craggy pier]

Question, does the sound of like hammer breaking lockey wake up sleepers ?

[rare blade]

If close enough yes

[rare blade]

Any sound no matter what basically can piss them off if close enough or loud enough

You treat every swing like if there’s a sleeper right next to you as even missing and hitting the floor basically does the same sound as hitting the lock

[craggy pier]

thx, the knife can kill sleepers if charged ?@rare blade

[rare blade]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

the knife oneshot every small enemy with a full charged headshot, and also kill strikers with a backhit if they are sleepin

they oneshot scouts in the back of the head

and can break limbs of giants from the back

[rare blade]

Normal mini sleepers basically die to you sneezing on them half the time

And Slendi speaking facts about the knife!

Slendi better than me so listen to that man to

@craggy pier btw knife is cool and all and it’s nice ur trying the options available but I would recommend you practice with sledgehammer or spear those are more versatile especially with bigger enemy’s and scouts

[ocean spindle]

spears good for learnin to take scouts and giants cause of the range, but for most missions id recommend hammer once u kinda know how to do it

[rare blade]

@ocean spindle explain to me why sledge is better than spear a lot of the time

[round arrow]

I tried R8A2 secondary yesterday and that is NOT a mission you want to be using the bat for

[rare blade]

Like ik sledge is better but like on paper spear just seems better due to range

[peak geode]

Just to make myself clear

My comments are more on the appreciative side

no cap, as the z would say

[round arrow]

Spear can't really be used in panic situations. Past a pure stealth scenario, spear has a long charge time

[ocean spindle]

thing is hammer is way better in combat, it has the same charge as spear about the same dmg about the same stamina consumption
but hammer being able to runs its just so much more comfy

an also u dont need headshots with it

with spear u hit headshot or dont oneshot most of the time

[digital mural]

spear slow
thats it

[rare blade]

Nah I understand but I’m also fascinated that ur fascinated about the slang

[digital mural]

gen z slang?

mods cut his head

[rare blade]

HEY

I just find it mad goofy fr fr ong for reals

That’s why I say it

[round arrow]

The oldest gen z is around 26-23, depending on when you think it starts.

[rare blade]

I have no clue where it starts

[rare blade]

Fair

[peak geode]

Im the at tailend of millenial, start of gen z

[round arrow]

For Americans, it's

1.) You can't remember 9/11
2.) You can't remember the world without the internet.

I fall into those two categories, so I would count, even if my experience as a rural American makes it a bit different.

[rare blade]

To become one of us you have to instantly start saying nonsense at the end of every sentence ong

[round arrow]

I am 26, making me a very old Gen Z

[peak geode]

I remember both

[hidden ridge]

Internet tells me this: Generation X – born 1965-1980.
Millennials – born 1981-1996.
Generation Z – born 1996-2012.
Gen Alpha – born 2013 – 2025.

[rare blade]

How does someone forget 9/11 it’s everywhere in memes and airport signs 🗣️🔥

[round arrow]

I mean no memories. Babby. No thoughts only scream.

[quartz prairie]

what the fuck

I look away for 3 seconds

how the hell did we get to 9/11

[digital mural]

man

i dont fucking know

[round arrow]

It was me, chief.

[digital mural]

we were talking about spears