why would i give em a sniper lol
#gtfo-related-questions
ocean spindle
they would surely balance ammo with it on small enemies
also yeah bots shoot the foam where u tell em from where they are so hard to work with
coral willow
personally, I’d recommend giving a player the cfoam - you can save it on doors by tap firing on them 9 times while a bot will ALWAYS do a full dump with it
ocean spindle
usually sentries its their best tool, well bio is their best but ur newies so its fine if u have the bio
coral willow
also, for some reason, bots can ping much farther with the scanner
unless they changed that recently
ocean spindle
yeah its kinda the, takeaway from not being able to scan rooms and see positions
no they havent its still the same
360 view
wanton sapphire
i feel like most encounters are close range from what ive played, so idk what use a sniper would have.
either that or its too dark to see far
coral willow
nah the sniper is less for range and more for instakilling giants
crisp salmon
New burst cannon is crazy good against chargers oh my god
ocean spindle
u can get away with many other guns
wanton sapphire
nah the sniper is less for range and more for instakilling giants
instakill you say?
coral willow
anything that requires precision is better in your hands than a bots, tldr
wanton sapphire
might have to try it then cause those fuckers get me
coral willow
so long as you’re referring to base giants like giant strikers/shooters, yeah the sniper eats them for breakfast
ocean spindle
theres a lot of guns to do big dmg very fast like shotties and hel rifle and high cal and many others but yeah sniper and scattergun are really the only oneshots
burst cannon only from the back
coral willow
basically, use the sniper if you really fucking hate anything larger than you are
ocean spindle
yeah for most levels its really not, vital to have
coral willow
nah, it’s handy but not necessary
ocean spindle
u can basically swap it for any other slightly high dmg secondary
thats what i do on my bot runs
i have the big gun they have the machineguns
usually i go in with a shottie or a chokemod or a high cal
depends on the level
minor fractal
so long as you’re referring to base giants like giant strikers/shooters, yeah th...
Not anymore, lmfao
native sun
It shoots 2 bullets every 5 seconds
native sun
They also shadow nerfed the reload cancel
coral willow
😔
ah well, i never used it - i usually just bring the fat pistol if i want something for that kind of role
just feels more fun
plus pistols are cool
slow topaz
Incidentally, if you accidentally wake a normal shooter, they literally cannot wake up the rest of the room. Their screeching is too quiet.
So, if you can bait them away from the room, you can deal with them without risking waking the rest.
native sun
^ is misinfo, normal shooter's scream can 100% wake rooms
narrow niche
Incidentally, if you accidentally wake a normal shooter, they literally *cannot*...
where did this come from
ok nvmd
looked at their takes
past mesa
^ is misinfo, normal shooter's scream can 100% wake rooms
True but have you considered you are too close to the shooter causing it to scream louder. It works up its courage meter when players are around once courage is high enough
It lets out a mighty scream
native sun
True but have you considered you are too close to the shooter causing it to scre...
I tried to test this by running two rooms away so I'd be far enough to not be able to encourage it to scream louder, but then it refused to scream for some annoying reason, made testing very very hard
past mesa
I tried to test this by running two rooms away so I'd be far enough to not be ab...
I think this proves the tiny scream theory
You just couldn’t hear it because you where to far away
native sun
Or maybe it did scream but I just didn't hear it, in which case it didn't wake up enemies, finally proving that if a tree falls in a forest but no one is around to hear it then it doesn't make any noise
And that sleepers don't count as quantum observers
native sun
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)```so real
slow topaz
^ is misinfo, normal shooter's scream can 100% wake rooms
Given I have accidentally woken them three times with my boyfriend, and we spent five minutes baiting them out of their bedroom the third time it happened, I guess ours was too scared.
wanton sapphire
can i get most of the levels done with just a trio?
we dont feel like recruiting another person and im not sure about taking a bot, but i might for the extra sentry
brisk fjord
can i get most of the levels done with just a trio?
100%
if you bring a bot, just bring a bot for the sole purpose of giving it a bio tracker
it has way wider range and faster reload time than if a player had one
depending on the experience you want, of course. maybe you dont want enemies tagged 99% of the time
though as you'd expect, the game may be more punishing later on with only 3 people. depends on how welll you and your friends do.
misty kernel
how do u check ur game ver?
lilac fulcrum
start game, bottom right corner
lilac fulcrum
how do u check ur game ver?
most recent version is 34716
midnight tulip
is it normal for a new rundown to only have 1 mission per letter at the start? Are more going to be added later?
fleet oak
Hey there! Coming back to the game after years, only played R1 and R2 I think.
I see all expeditions are now available all the time? I remember there being some kind of rotation?
lilac fulcrum
is it normal for a new rundown to only have 1 mission per letter at the start? A...
Play through the levels and you might find yourself surprised at how much content there really is by the end of E1 
dry pumice
is it normal for a new rundown to only have 1 mission per letter at the start? A...
Yes. [A] levels are not generally welcomed by vets - they're too easy for them.
Free apparel for us peasants though.
tardy ingot
Artek "dont call me the vet" the vet
hardy grotto
eva opinion 
tardy ingot
mhm
dry pumice
Hey there! Coming back to the game after years, only played R1 and R2 I think.
I...
That design choice was walked back on as after Rundown 7.
Rundown 7 was the last rundown to replace the old one (which was original R6).
After that they slowly reintroduced all the old rundowns (known as ALT rundowns now) with small, mostly irrelevant changes to them. So now you can play EVERYTHING.
Recently added Rundown 8 is a completely new one.
fleet oak
That design choice was walked back on as after Rundown 7.
Rundown 7 was the last...
That's awesome, very glad they did that.
That FOMO really is the worst in gaming.
neon gust
Foam central
neon gust
it sucks
tardy ingot
yes
marble brook
hello i try the game bc he is free but im stuck in the tutorial(yes) i dont manage to type the right command on the in game computer for finding a key. i strugule with this "_" i cant write it in game . anyone help pls?
floral acorn
do you get / when you try to do _ ?
.. as many possibilities as there are keyboard layouts in the world, for me _ comes from the same place as in windows (as it should)
dry pumice
hello i try the game bc he is free but im stuck in the tutorial(yes) i dont mana...
That's... A bizzare issues for certain. Does the button not work, or?...
neon gust
im gonna be force to bring helgun to [last level] 🥹
dry pumice
its the - button that turns into _ with SHIFT
hardy grotto
im gonna be force to bring helgun to [last level] 🥹
i hope you think of me when you do it
hardy grotto
LMFAO
neon gust
me with you would be a downgrade
hardy grotto
i dont speak to beep
neon gust
LMAO
marble brook
do you get / when you try to do _ ?
i just find out its because my keyboard is azerty and i put im in qwerty lol thanks for help anyway
neon gust
for the most part
tardy ingot
we dont tierlist
solemn flint
but techniclly we have diffrent weapon for diffrent job
solemn flint
<:bonk:865523126779117578>
tardy ingot
considering that im planning to do a podcast/stream where we make compiled tierlists between scaler, blackdragon, ray, tru and me
idk what to tell ya
dry pumice
There are tier list, and some guns are far better than others if you truly learn to use them correctly.
hexed granite
Is there a difference between melee weapons? especially like between knives and spears? Is there is even a point to use a knife or smth?
dry pumice
But generally you'll be fine with any weapon.
solemn flint
forgot about the podcast
solemn flint
Is there a difference between melee weapons? especially like between knives and ...
alot actually
hexed granite
watchu mean
solemn flint
hey
hexed granite
spear op
tardy ingot
hammer = safe bet
bat = stagger
knife = fast
solemn flint
atleast the new spear look quite good
solemn flint
we have to give the dev credit for that
tardy ingot
getting close isnt an issue since you wanna hit em either way to kill
tardy ingot
especially since spear is pretty slow
hexed granite
and what about the "turrets" ? i dont really see anybody using them
mostly that foam and mines
dry pumice
Is there a difference between melee weapons? especially like between knives and ...
Hammers: averagely reliable, does everything at the same time.
Bat: hammer junior, trades range and damage for speed.
Knife: due to being silly quick on charging - can reliable eleminate many small enemies in a row. Worthless against big enemies.
Spear: the only melee weapons that can't sprint properly while charging. Deals extra damage on headshots, but less bodyshot damage than hammer. Thus struggles against enemies who don't have a head weakness.
Enjoys having an increased hitbox range.
Excels at dispatching giant enemies safely. Somewhat... Hammer still can do the same, but requires more effort and skill.
I play with spear constantly. Its quite comfy actually, but don't expect it to clutch you from a dangerous situation like Hammer can.
hexed granite
are they good?
tardy ingot
tardy ingot
burst sentry - average reliable (good wave clear helper)
sniper sentry - long range "slow" (better with bio pings) high damage sentry. Good vs giants and chargers
Shotgun sentry - low range. High output but blows through shots. Somewhat unreliable unless placed rly well
Hel auto sentry - stagger sentry. Stalls waves. Rly rly specific
dry pumice
u dont need the range
Yes i fucking do and i'm tired of pretending like i'm not
tardy ingot
rn its a clear gap between 3 melees and the spear
dry pumice
burst sentry - average reliable (good wave clear helper)
sniper sentry - long ra...
Too add to this i found Shotgun Sentry + HEL Sentry team up to be exceptionally potent in current patch. They can effectively cut off hordes from tight routes with nothing making it past them.
hexed granite
I just use my fists
dry pumice
I still don't understand why they NERFED spear when it clearly needs even more buffs.
tardy ingot
Too add to this i found Shotgun Sentry + HEL Sentry team up to be exceptionally ...
oh they can for sure
its pretty high tool useage tho
dry pumice
What the fuck is the balance man smoking.
At this point set the stagger multiplier to x0.1 for fucks sake
solemn flint
u need to get used to bringing a variety of stuff
dry pumice
I'm a spear user. I don't do stagger. Just give me power
hexed granite
honestly they could've added swords to the game
solemn flint
we dont need that stuff
hexed granite
zweihander would be nice
dry pumice
There exists a cut makeshift fire axe
solemn flint
dry pumice
But it appears they don't intend to bring that in
solemn flint
dry pumice
zweihander would be nice
This is not dark souls, come on
hexed granite
This is doom-dark souls
dry pumice
When will people take their aesthetic coherency seriously
hexed granite
cleave
civic wave
Cleave what
dry pumice
He means a wide hitbox that hits multiple enemies in a row
Kinda like side attacks in Killing Floor do
At which point just go play that
civic wave
Sounds silly for this game, how would you even set up the animation
heady moat
we have two bladed weapons already, we don't need a third 😤
neon gust
swing
suddenly 5 enemies get hit
swing
dry pumice
Sounds silly for this game, how would you even set up the animation
Backwards engineer and reingineer whatever Killing Floor 2 does
neon gust
but yeah not for this game
civic wave
Swords are cool and all but aren't all the melees in this game just tools that got picked.hp
Picked up
neon gust
damn we really do be mining without picaxes
dry pumice
Machetes exist for practical reasons
heady moat
Swords are cool and all but aren't all the melees in this game just tools that g...
I think the Kovac Peacekeeper is probably a standard-issue KSO truncheon
neon gust
the whole weaponry lore its messed up
civic wave
5 round burst, they say, on a now 3 round burst weapon
Like I guess it's easier to use on smalls now but fuck me, give the 5 burst and shitty recoil back
neon gust
Don't seem too complicated
they change the lore so many times
and the artstyile and everything that this game was going to be
hexed granite
I suppose rundown 8 is the last update for the game ever?
neon gust
might be a balance path here and maybe a quality of life update
but overall it looks like we are done
hexed granite
yeah but no major ones?
neon gust
only time will tell
dry pumice
Hammer are hammers, although i don't understand the practical implications of their designs. I think of them is just a gear mechanism from a larger machine...
Classic Spear is just a drill head. New Spear is broken old one with a makeshift sheev stampled to it.
The knives are knives. One of them looks just tacticool and would make sense for security forces, the other one... Looks like a pocket knife or something?... I'm not sure.
Classic Bat is just a security baton with extra prejudice. The new one is... I'm not sure honestly. Its either home made or... Maybe workers got bored and played baseball with it?...
heady moat
and then probably a console release
steady jolt
Am I seeing this right? There is a checkpoint in R1A1?
heady moat
yep
steady jolt
me not happy me no like checkpoints in R1-5 me only want checkpoints in R6-8
narrow niche
It feels unnatural
steady jolt
It really does its like walking into ur house and taking a shower only to find out its ur neighbours house
tardy ingot
speedrunning gotta work around that aswell 
narrow niche
Rip
civic wave
let me guess, you used the in game matchmaking system instead of discord lfg
yeah, in game matchmaking isn't very good
hazy wedge
Rip Kylo
hidden ridge
me not happy me no like checkpoints in R1-5 me only want checkpoints in R6-8
who cares?
It's just 1 map
And a A tier at that
I doubt they're gonna give other alt levels a checkpoint anyway
I'm pretty sure it's just that they assumed newbies for the freeweek would begin at r1a1 and it's not really super friendly as a beginning point as r7a1 and it's 2 checkpoints for a 5min map
civic wave
yea it is the first level most people would play but a checkpoint is so out of place
and the level isn't truly that long either, it's inexperience/scarediness that makes people take ages to return to that point
strong rose
are there any even remotely solo-able levels
hidden ridge
are there any even remotely solo-able levels
r1b1's probably the easiest to solo
(true solo, no bots)
tardy ingot
are there any even remotely solo-able levels
a lot of levels are soloable
but its a skill/experience thing
strong rose
a lot of levels are soloable
but its a skill/experience thing
yeah i got neither of those
tepid phoenix
hello is this bug reported or not
cold bluff
Help how to fix my screen goes green and red pixel around cant even play
tardy ingot
rejoin if you arent host
dry pumice
Help how to fix my screen goes green and red pixel around cant even play
Can you post screenshot in #gtfo-media for us to see the problem?
cold bluff
No such chanel
dry pumice
You don't have the permissions then. Go to id:customize and fix it
tardy ingot
because they dont bug out?
winged turtle
yeah i got neither of those
R7A1 is good practice to solo, and R1B1 is an easy first accomplishment to solo
dry pumice
That is one round about way to get your twitch views up 
cold bluff
Terrible game going to damage my eyes
dry pumice
Just post it to #gtfo-media come on
cold bluff
Cant
dry pumice
Why
civic wave
it's just the funny liquid bug when the game turns your screen a certain colour
tardy ingot
"cant", lol yes you can
cold bluff
I am streaming u all can see the whole picture
tardy ingot
theres also gtfo spoiler chat
cold bluff
No uch media chanel
civic wave
spoiler chat lost its embeds, no?
tardy ingot
someone just posted a pic
civic wave
oh it got them back for r8
dry pumice
Perfect, #gtfo-spoiler-chat it is
civic wave
anyway the solution is either to restart the game, see if changing any graphical settings somehow overrides it, or get on with it
because we can't fix the problem for you, and complaining won't fix it either
tardy ingot
That is one round about way to get your twitch views up <:PirateSimon:6218175143...
follower only chat aswell
@cold bluff
as you are playing with bots its a L scenario
that specific version of the bug is pretty rare and doesnt disappear. Usually youd just rejoin if you get it as client, but since you are playing with no other people thats just stuck until you restart
also game is very much recommended to be played with people
dry pumice
Are you using in-game matchmaking or what
cold bluff
i cant even get ppl to play and they just quit in the middle and the game doesn't replace it with bot
civic wave
playing via in game matchmaking?
which is recommended against by absolutely everyone, everyone advises to use discord lfg instead
cold bluff
yes. i try before, now i try host it. as you can see I set it to player and bot
dry pumice
i cant even get ppl to play and they just quit in the middle and the game doesn'...
It should if your player slots are set to "PLAYERS AND BOTS"
If it doesn't - that's also a bug. There's plenty of those around.
cold bluff
should i retire it and restart my pc?
indigo herald
how do you guys see in the dark? for my first time I played with other people, I kept on following them in the dark and they still see the enemy without lights hmm, is there somekind of nightvision goggles in the game?
cold bluff
gaming monitor fps mode
dry pumice
how do you guys see in the dark? for my first time I played with other people, I...
No, none of that... What level and how DARK it is exactly?
tardy ingot
no need to restart pc
but also, people cant just randomly join you
you either need to look for players on here
dry pumice
Sometimes game lighting can bug out and go very weird.
tardy ingot
or use the matchmaking in game (not advised)
dry pumice
But it happens very rarely.
@indigo herald care to post an example picture in #gtfo-media if you can?
indigo herald
No, none of that... What level and how DARK it is exactly?
as in dark. I know that you can actually spot an enemy because they like glow or something.
topaz anvil
I would kill to see enemies without my flashlight
dry pumice
The game can get dark when it wants to. Experienced players just use flashlights in short burst.
Or rather: they have it out and if it spots something and that something starts going "click-click" - they turn it off and wait.
wind wren
R8c1 question: ||is there supposed to be a shadow giant error after overload?||
I'm watching others ppls runs and they don't get one
Or well,I watched one person's run and that person didn't get one
cold bluff
but also, people cant just randomly join you
omg so troublesome
dry pumice
Eh
tardy ingot
people being able to randomly join you would suck
dry pumice
Compared to alternatives...
YOu know like Left 4 Dead where people just pop in whenever matchmaking feels like throwing someone down your empty spot
GTFO doesn't work like that, for one reason or another.
You have to make the squad before dropping it, or spread your lobby code everywhere for people to attempt to join.
cold bluff
GTFO doesn't work like that, for one reason or another.
You have to make the squ...
paying for troublesome.
dry pumice
Somewhat. It is a niche game and only caters to people ready to commit to the bit for the experience of it.
olive robin
Can't people rejoin if they dc mid level
dry pumice
They can.
Unless it bugs out and doesn't let them.
R7C3 used to have a bug that was guaranteed to prevent people from dropping back in.
olive robin
Id rather have someone who dced rejoin than let randos take their spot
And left 4 dead is such a different game
IDK how reasonable it is to compare the two and their takes on mid run joining
dry pumice
Hmmmm
I guess it does introduces griefer related issues
Would be a sham to lose an hour long run to some asshole
Where left 4 dead its whatever
cold bluff
Id rather have someone who dced rejoin than let randos take their spot
not only left 4 dead. even warhammer and many others game have more better multiplayer features than this. And no check point all the way.
olive robin
And gets replaced by some goon with an auto sentry and hel rifle
olive robin
not only left 4 dead. even warhammer and many others game have more better multi...
Dark tide is so much easier than gtfo
I don't really know why you are comparing very different games
GTFO multiplayer is a bit rough but I don't mind people not being able to join mid run
I rather have a consistent squad than a random one
neon forge
I'm wondering when I'll actually win a game. I've been playing for 2 days and at least one guy wont stealth or turn his light on/ shoot at everything.
ocean spindle
also theres a thing where if a new person joins i think they get like droppin ammo, which for some levels it can be kinda a 'cheat' i guess
topaz anvil
Imagine checkpoints on every security door lmfaooo
olive robin
I'm wondering when I'll actually win a game. I've been playing for 2 days and at...
Find people who are human and in vc
cold bluff
GTFO multiplayer is a bit rough but I don't mind people not being able to join m...
once 1 player leave they cant replace it with bot how you finish the game like that? mean have to restart the macth again
olive robin
once 1 player leave they cant replace it with bot how you finish the game like t...
Bots replace people who leave I think?
ocean spindle
u can run bots too itll just be harder
cold bluff
Imagine checkpoints on every security door lmfaooo
there are non for whole lvl.
ocean spindle
Bots replace people who leave I think?
yeah as long as u have the option
olive robin
And IDK why you are playing with people who abandon you mid run
neon forge
Every one of my games goes wrong
dry pumice
I'm wondering when I'll actually win a game. I've been playing for 2 days and at...
I'm doing my own thing, but if you want - i can join you and we can try playing the game the proper way... With bots even.
neon forge
when people drop out it gets way harder
cold bluff
And IDK why you are playing with people who abandon you mid run
more funny some player just shot at their own teammate
olive robin
Bots are real sometimes
olive robin
more funny some player just shot at their own teammate
You are literally playing with trolls and blaming the game???
neon forge
I can't play until night
dry pumice
Well then
topaz anvil
there are non for whole lvl.
For the first 5 rundowns yes as that's how everyone had to play it. It's endurance and difficulty
dry pumice
Off i go doing the spoiler thing
neon forge
No one seems to know FF is on...
cold bluff
You are literally playing with trolls and blaming the game???
game and player all bad too.
neon forge
I just keep replaying drops..
cold bluff
I just keep replaying drops..
same
ocean spindle
id say games not really on the fault here but idk
olive robin
game and player all bad too.
You seem very decided in your view of the game so I won't continue this
neon forge
yeah game is good ppl suck
ocean spindle
i have a bot with foam sometimes its not as bad as everyone says
olive robin
It can work
dry pumice
No one seems to know FF is on...
That's normal for new players, yeah
Hell, even happens to veterans sometimes
cold bluff
You seem very decided in your view of the game so I won't continue this
cause i already complete some rundown with bot only. than suddenly at extration point the bot doesnt go inside the point and scan they keep busy shooting the monster. algorithmn problem.
olive robin
I just prefer to take foam myself or mines
timid grove
hackett my beloved
who is yalls favoret gtfo carictor of the 4
topaz anvil
Hell, even happens to veterans sometimes
I end up shooting my teammates a lot lel
ocean spindle
cause i already complete some rundown with bot only. than suddenly at extration ...
on most extraction scans it really doesnt matter
ocean spindle
who is yalls favoret gtfo carictor of the 4
jokes aside i kinda like dauda a lot
dry pumice
I have no idea what people find in Dauda
olive robin
cause i already complete some rundown with bot only. than suddenly at extration ...
If you move the bots follow you, and the bots are not the intended way to play. You are meant to play with real humans who do not want to troll. Bots are for people who need one or two people
ocean spindle
I have no idea what people find in Dauda
idk he got a cool backstory and its like ohh what did he doooooo
also nigerian thats a place we dont see often in games
timid grove
I have no idea what people find in Dauda
dauta picks up datashere= DAUDAS FUCKIN BALLIN
dry pumice
But that's not the in-game dauda
cold bluff
If you move the bots follow you, and the bots are not the intended way to play. ...
is fine my friend give up
olive robin
idk he got a cool backstory and its like ohh what did he doooooo
He dauded all over the place and felt guilty
dry pumice
That's just the concept of old dauda before his got mind wiped
I would LOVE for his scientific nature to come through in the in-game dialogue
But he just says... Nothing.
He could wonder about the creatures, things he finds, start murmering scientific jiberish
ocean spindle
its still kinda on character as in ohh misterious he doesnt talk lots and stuff
and tbh i really love the accent
olive robin
He doesn't really act like a scientist in general dialogue
dry pumice
Otherwise he's just... The guy with the accent.
dry pumice
Also the worst mask in the game too.
ocean spindle
he like me
ocean spindle
Also the worst mask in the game too.
none of em really are, good
apart from hackett
timid grove
i like bishop because hes rude(i tride another discriptive word but it was blocked)
ocean spindle
the funny one
timid grove
i feel like haccet and woods arent that recongniseable
timid grove
woods is the least because he never talks and is extremely generic
heady moat
Isn't woods just american
and religious
olive robin
Relgious
timid grove
and religious
then why cant he go throguh it saying some religous stuff?
olive robin
Isn't hacket and bishop Irish and british respectively
heady moat
Isn't hacket and bishop Irish and british respectively
yes
heady moat
then why cant he go throguh it saying some religous stuff?
he does have some lines
olive robin
AUG FELL ON ME ARSE
Stop doing that then
neon forge
I didnt realize there were characters or backgrounds?
timid grove
Stop doing that then
i dont know if thats a responce to the voiceline from one of the carictors or if you think i actually fell
neon forge
I cant get past the first mission cause someone ALWAYS blows it
olive robin
i dont know if thats a responce to the voiceline from one of the carictors or if...
If you actually fell
You should stop doing that
neon forge
Even if I get 2 col guys with mics the 4th guy from china BLOW it
neon forge
BLOWS*
olive robin
Even if I get 2 col guys with mics the 4th guy from china BLOW it
Replace with bot using bio track lol
Bio track bot is optimal
neon forge
We tried that' still didnt make it at horde
timid grove
If you actually fell
its a bishop voiceline when he takes fall damage
neon forge
newbie poblems I guess
dry pumice
What exactly do you mean by blow
timid grove
ther is also the "OH FUCK ME THEY BUSTED THE BOLLARDS RIGHT OUTA THE DOOR" that sounds irish
cold bluff
developer should listen to player
timid grove
also https://youtu.be/UE5h4AowjoU?feature=shared&t=372
cant watch it now im in a class but give me like an hour ill ill get it
ocean spindle
its kinda funny like i just read 'oh why isnt woods more religious in his dialogue' how kmsdkm
not every part of the character must be like in the dialogue so players can say 'oh he said it!'
what would the religious man would say religiously? 'oh pray the lord god we found some sleepers'
timid grove
its kinda funny like i just read 'oh why isnt woods more religious in his dialog...
i pray that thine door stay reinforced in thy good faith for longer
ocean spindle
yeah no that just sounds very goofy skmdkm
he isnt middle ages no one says thy
specially not in 2057
timid grove
yeah no that just sounds very goofy skmdkm
i was being a little sarcastic and now i get what you mean
jokin round
heady moat
i pray that thine door stay reinforced in thy good faith for longer
but tbf he does have a few prayers within his voice lines
neon forge
What exactly do you mean by blow
they keep their lights on them or don't sneak. or they just start shooting when we get to a new area, never close doors etc etc
dry pumice
Is their character wearing default rags or are they a multicoloured sci-fi clown with robo-hands
neon forge
They also don't listen when i tell them 'you wont find any first aid or ammo so lets sneak and stealth kill' Just complely ignored
i am default skin
heady moat
They also don't listen when i tell them 'you wont find any first aid or ammo so ...
are you using matchmaking or are you using the LFG channels
neon forge
ppl i match with have gear not new still act new wtf
i default all day and i know better
they constantly get us killed
heady moat
seriously, trust me on this, use the LFG channels
you are much more likely to find someone who knows what they're doing
heady moat
👍
neon forge
I played with ppl ythat know
like i said always at least one guy though
gets us killed
heady moat
it do be like that
dry pumice
They also don't listen when i tell them 'you wont find any first aid or ammo so ...
I think you just keep getting people who think the yare good, or just trolling / throwing
If i'll find a moment - i'll be happy to play a couple of levels with you normally
soft crater
Gtfo do be a game
You can't play the way you want particularly until you've learned and practiced the mechanics
earnest compass
Understanding breakpoints can also really help
sturdy stump
do the new melee weapons have different stats or is it just weapon skins ?
sturdy stump
thank you
fathom shell
is the bat a good weapon ?
dry pumice
Somewhat
Its a hammer that traded range and damage for quicker charges and overpowered stagger power
you can just spam enemies with light attacks and keep them stunlocked
Except big ones, of course.,
fathom shell
ok
stuck wasp
Why would i do stealth instead of just lighting up all the nude creatures I see?
(Im new)
hidden ridge
Why would i do stealth instead of just lighting up all the nude creatures I see?...
try waking up all rooms and see why?
I mean you still might do fine
visual iris
is the sniper ammo refill the same?
ashen frigate
Bullet cost: 23.0 -> 17.5
stuck wasp
I mean you still might do fine
I tried just now, I did not infact do fine
dry pumice
Why would i do stealth instead of just lighting up all the nude creatures I see?...
Saving ammo, saving health... The usual things.
ashen frigate
is the sniper ammo refill the same?
The Bullet cost is reduced, therefore ammopacks give it more ammo than before (25% more ?)
dry pumice
Most levels provide enough resources to do that anyway.
hidden ridge
I tried just now, I did not infact do fine
well now you know
opal mountain
during a horde, can enemies spawn in rooms you havent yet explored?
hidden ridge
during a horde, can enemies spawn in rooms you havent yet explored?
yes
With notable exceptions, enemies spawn 2 rooms away, whenever they cant it's 1 room away, whenever they cant they plop from the sky
visual iris
The Bullet cost is reduced, therefore ammopacks give it more ammo than before (2...
so 5 per?
visual iris
alrighty then
earnest compass
used to be like 4
or slightly less than 4
going from 120 to like 45 RPM is very painful though, same with 3 to 2 mag size
ashen frigate
Sniper Rifle got some decent nerfs, but the added ammunition is welcome for long-lasting sequences, where you need to use it a lot
earnest compass
Most definitely
Makes ammo management a lot easier
Where using a shot on a striker to help even out ammo spent isn't as wasteful
still pretty wasteful but not AS wasteful
ashen frigate
I would indeed use it more often now to kill a Shooter, when before the hipfire nerf I would sometimes use it as a "long range shotgun" with hipfire
earnest compass
lower RoF is painful but makes you more careful with your shot placement
i freaking love this game
ashen frigate
That was, in a nutshell, my feedback after some reflexion (when the immediate thoughts were "REEEEEEEE")
upper ginkgo
man sniper is so broken
earnest compass
Yeah there’s psychological effects to rate of fire stuff
upper ginkgo
so glad they nerfed it
earnest compass
You’re a lot more careful with a bolt action than a PDW
indigo herald
how do I join a specific level of matchmaking let say R1A1?
lilac fulcrum
how do I join a specific level of matchmaking let say R1A1?
You can't specific a specific expedition, it'll pick one from a tier. The host should be able to change it if everyone agrees.
ashen frigate
once a group has been formed
dry pumice
anything different with the 'other' knife
All new melees are just skins, no different from their counter parts
However: hacket holds the new knife VERY weirdly
lilac fulcrum
maybe he found a better way to hold the knife and we're all just holding it wrong?
whole grove
Could we have prisoners with different knife animations when killing enemies or idling
that we be fun
dry pumice
maybe he found a better way to hold the knife and we're all just holding it wron...
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw it
#gtfo-spoiler-chat lads
Damn it, i already know the secret... Just not the scope of it.
lapis void
How do u mellee the big guy?
dry pumice
How do u mellee the big guy?
- Have Hammer or Spear
- Get behind
- Start by attacking it to the back of the head for maximum damage
4-A) In a group: have the rest get behind as well and just hit it from behind for backstab damage. Couple of hammer attack usually drop them like sacks of potatoes.
4-B) Solo: immediately start charging the next attack and aim for the LIMBS. Fully charged spear and hammer attacks will break their hands and legs, forcing another stagger animation and thus you can have them stunlocked that way until you kill it.
Spear somewhat exceed here, since the bonus range keeps it out of punching range, while hammer has to put some extra work as to not get punched.
earnest compass
Do ||tank tumors|| count for back damage or only precision?
visual iris
Do ||tank tumors|| count for back damage or only precision?
precision only
visual iris
earnest compass
clever frost
Hello I wanna ask for a question about R8B2, there's a mission told us to access zone 188 from terminal in zone 191
visual iris
Hello I wanna ask for a question about R8B2, there's a mission told us to access...
u can ask in #gtfo-spoiler-chat
clever frost
oh ok tks
velvet reef
can a hel rifle one shot a scout?
velvet reef
lrg
lilac widget
yeah, that can kill a scout to anywhere
earnest compass
not a front bodyshot though
lilac widget
I retract my statement
earnest compass
yeah 30.01 damage per shot
precision multiplier of .73 so precision damage would be 21.9073, and a headshot is 3x damage on scouts
so a headshot would be 65.7219 which is greater than 42
a backshot multiplier is 2, so it would do 60.02 damage which is also greater than 42
lilac widget
It seems that no weapon can front bodyshot a scout
The sniper doest 40.01 damage base
lilac widget
Scattergun is just an instant delete button if you get close enough
earnest compass
basically
lapis void
1) Have Hammer or Spear
2) Get behind
3) Start by attacking it to the back of th...
so which in general is better to bring? hammer or spear?
dry pumice
so which in general is better to bring? hammer or spear?
As it currently stands: Hammer is a far superior melee to Spear, if you put effort and skill into it. It staggers better, got that 20 DMG base damage break point on full charge (meaning it doesn't have to rely on headshots to get things done) and most importantly: it can sprint at full speed while charging its attacks.
Spear deals less body damage and has a pseudo-sprint that barely gives you any speed, not to mention it barely staggers.
All for what? ~30% extra damage on headshots and extra range. That's literally it. Not really worth it by any stretch of the imagination. Bonus points if you find enemies who don't have a head.
I only ever use spear, but i'm aware of its' downsides. Which results in me basically never sprinting unless i have to, unlike hammer mains who just go full Oonga Boonga and dance in circles around sleepers.
lapis void
As it currently stands: Hammer is a far superior melee to Spear, if you put effo...
Ooo i see thanks for the explanation
gaunt hawk
im new to the game when youre setting up a matchmaking thing in the lfg-beginners chat what do the various numbers and letters mean?
fading oriole
im new to the game when youre setting up a matchmaking thing in the lfg-beginner...
Most games will have an explanation in the pinned messages
dry pumice
im new to the game when youre setting up a matchmaking thing in the lfg-beginner...
Example:
R1-A1
492356397569695764
R1 = Rundown 1 (basically a campaign)
A1 = The specific level of that rundown.
The random numbers = the lobby ID code, that you must copy for the "JOIN GAME" button to appear in your main menu.
A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard
gaunt hawk
thanks
wet inlet
Is there a difference between A1 and A2? Or just different missions, same difficulty
dry pumice
Is there a difference between A1 and A2? Or just different missions, same diffic...
Basically latter, although higher numbers sometimes tend to be sliiiiightly harder.
wet inlet
Ah alright
orchid junco
Anyone else experiencing a lot of network or syncing issues with the new patch? I ask because sleepers were fully waking from movement when they were dormant or just glowing, and from fairly distant (>5m) stealth kills while totally dormant, and from very brief flashlight syncs. Also multiple cases of me or teammates being unable to interact with objects like door switches, lockers, or unable to pickup ammo pouches.
compact junco
the new slug shotgun says its pump action but it doesnt work the pump it just fires and waits until u can fire it again 😦
jaunty latch
Anyone else experiencing a lot of network or syncing issues with the new patch? ...
yeah its been a lot more unstable for me though it normally leads to disconnects or failing to save progress (though that only happened once and it was on a1 so eh)
cosmic owl
Bots will drop objective items when in combat, and re-collect the item once safe.
just want to confirm this statement with the discord. im trying to duo + 2 bots r2e1 and want to make sure that during the error alarm, the bot will pick up the items again after combat. does the statement from the wiki still stand?
soft kiln
yes and error is 24/7 in combat for bots
cosmic owl
soft kiln
so you will have to transport the cells and fog yourself
no worry the bots will be good enough to protect you when you transporting the items
cosmic owl
it was just last time, we had a lot of enemies that spawn during the error and kind of got overwhelmed before we reached the first surge alarm after error started
soft kiln
when I was doing solo with bots
they carried me in the error section
cosmic owl
:O so you backtracked a lot then huh? how did you deal with the fog and carrying the items?
earnest compass
basically yeah
soft kiln
other times the bot shooting will be enough
cosmic owl
hmm i see. in our case if we have duo, one person carries fog and other carry cell/neonate and that could work right?
soft kiln
yes
cosmic owl
as you were doing solo, did you try to save any doors for the 4th surge alarm? not sure about the strat to deal with the 4th surge alarm with the fog and error alarms constantly spawning
soft kiln
yes the big door next to the scan door must be saved
cosmic owl
is it the big door when you enter the scan room?
soft kiln
yes
swift pasture
how do you kick inactives in a lobby?
cosmic owl
alrighty, ill try the level soon again. thanks for the tips!
past mesa
how do you kick inactives in a lobby?
you do not
swift pasture
you can't?
jaunty latch
I think a mod that lets you do it exists if you need it just I dont think your allowed to use it here
civic wave
you can also install mods that let you kick players
past mesa
I think a mod that lets you do it exists if you need it just I dont think your a...
no we use it
everyone does
jaunty latch
nevermind then install it lol
swift pasture
I'll look into it, kinda silly though
cosmic owl
when I was doing solo with bots
they carried me in the error section
one more question, how did you distribute the cells during error alarm? since you enter the error alarm with one extra cell, what room onwards did you not search for the cell?
cosmic owl
gotcha so prob not recommended to search for the cell in the fog zone/4th surge alarm?
soft kiln
yea
swift ruin
am playing the game for the free weekend
got past r1a1 after a bit of effort and am now struggling on r1b1
any tips for getting into the game/for that level
wooden karma
any tips for getting into the game/for that level
play with people in lfg if you arent already, and youll get better with more attempts
civic wave
for r1b1 you can go multiple ways really, make sure to stop by the terminals to grab resources and all that, having a biotracker on the team is useful for pinging enemies
wooden karma
anyone completed the solo b level with pistol only achievement? i think im getting filtered, attempting r1b2
civic wave
burst sentry will greatly help you in killing enemies too I guess
civic wave
anyone completed the solo b level with pistol only achievement? i think im getti...
you don't need to solo it, you can play with a team if everyone runs pistols
wooden karma
wait what?
civic wave
the achievement isn't for soloing
it's just for a completion with a specific loadout
you can run full team with pistols/revolvers
wooden karma
“Controlled Response
Complete any B-tier expedition alone with only pistols or revolvers equipped as main and secondary”
sounds like a solo to me
civic wave
oh nevermind, it does say alone
uh I guess time to throw myself into the gauntlet too
wooden karma
lol
cosmic owl
“Controlled Response
Complete any B-tier expedition alone with only pistols or r...
alone as in no bots either?
foggy ridge
r1b1 easiest
cosmic owl
sheesh
civic wave
if nothing else you're allowed to use some pretty good guns
wooden karma
havent really attempted solo before this so managing waves during the alarm is rough
im using machine pistol+revolver
civic wave
uh I guess time to throw myself into the gauntlet too
I am a victor, kinda funny to see that the achievement icon is double revo
halcyon mango
For r4d2, after getting overlapping overload and main, can we do the final warden door alarm in main before secondary and overload or will it activate an error after?
Alarm door to 101
Class 8 cluster
cosmic owl
thoughts on sawed shotgun and regular shotgun as loadouts for r2e1?
halcyon mango
Not the most optimal. Might be short on ammo
hazy wedge
For r4d2, after getting overlapping overload and main, can we do the final warde...
Yes finish clearing a path to main, kill the sleeping tank behind apex, finish secondary, and collect cargo in Overload
halcyon mango
Aight thnx
hazy wedge
thoughts on sawed shotgun and regular shotgun as loadouts for r2e1?
Hel shotgun and combat shotgun
gleaming fog
I'm extremely new and this might be a dumb question, but I keep seeing what looks like an audio wave or pulse over my co-players heads, but none of them have noticed anything like it. What is it?
halcyon mango
Hm, dont know what you’re referring to. Do you have a screenshot?
gleaming fog
I don't, but basically over their names there are two straight lines, and in between them a wavy line that changes frequency, shows up when we're trying to stealth?
halcyon mango
Yeah, never seen that before
Might be a new thing from recent patch?
Though havent seen anything like it the past two days either
cosmic glade
Is there anybody here that happens to play with mods, I bought the game very recently and wanted to try it out but mods just seem to crash the game on me for some reason 
Unsure if it has something to do with the new update or the mods themselves.
gleaming fog
I've only played like four missions or so today and yesterday, so I have no idea when it's from
halcyon mango
Is there anybody here that happens to play with mods, I bought the game very rec...
Hm, my mods are still working after the update. Might be with a specific mod you’re using or improper installation.
halcyon mango
I've only played like four missions or so today and yesterday, so I have no idea...
Well, hopefully its just something you can ignore
cosmic glade
do you happen to use thunderstore or something else
halcyon mango
Manual install by drag and dropping the plugin files
Downloaded files from thunderstore though
gleaming fog
Well, hopefully its just something you can ignore
I think I might be crazy but it looks like it's active when they're moving nearby a pulsing monster??? But I'm starting to doubt my sanity
cosmic glade
Manual install by drag and dropping the plugin files
sounds good will try this out then , ty !
halcyon mango
sounds good will try this out then , ty !
Yeah, just download the gtfo bepinex, extract the files to the main game folder, run it once to confirm you get a terminal popup, then after there should be a plugins folder in the bepinex game folder where you can drop in the plugin .dlls. Sometimes a plugin might have configs or additional assets that should be copied over as well.
halcyon mango
I think I might be crazy but it looks like it's active when they're moving nearb...
Eh, if it’s not affecting gameplay just ignore it then 
gleaming fog
Haha, that's fair.
magic crypt
Hi everyone, can I ask if there is a way to increase or decrease difficulty on the game? Just took it from from Steam and stuck on the second level
hazy wedge
Hi everyone, can I ask if there is a way to increase or decrease difficulty on t...
Difficulty does not scale with the amount of players. Unfortunately you can only use a mod to make it easier and don’t ask me what it’s called because Idk. I would suggest you use bots or even better use the lfg channels to find a squad
magic crypt
Ok, thnx for the tip
wooden karma
I am a victor, kinda funny to see that the achievement icon is double revo
you did it? what was your setup + level
civic wave
r1b2, sledgehammer + hel revo + revo + sniper sentry (burst is good too, probably better even)
wooden karma
aight so i just suck and should be able to get it with practice
civic wave
it's mostly a matter of experience tbh, I'll have more experience playing the game and unfortunately there is no secret sauce
wooden karma
did you do anything special for the class 4 alarm right before hsu? thats where i usually fail
probably just need to kite better
civic wave
I had a mine on one side with a door closed and sentry on the other (they never spawned from sentry side)
that'd be more of a matter of experience with holding alarms
you could maybe keep sentry on you, see if there's any tripmines to place on that one door
or it might be easier to do r1b1 (which only really has 1 forced alarm), but the level plays differently
maiden jacinth
hai! im on the free weekend for this game and i was wondering whats the best mission to start? im assuming just r1 (i think thats what its called)
dry pumice
hai! im on the free weekend for this game and i was wondering whats the best mis...
Depends what you're looking for.
dry pumice
hai! im on the free weekend for this game and i was wondering whats the best mis...
Rundowns 1-3 are pretty standard and their first missions are basic, and - dare i say - bland.
If you want something more spicy - Rundowns 6, 7 and 8 (especially 8) are far more exciting for an entry point, but in hindsight - everything before them will feel underdeveloped.
maiden jacinth
awesome man thanks, also, is the ingame match-making system good or is it better just to use the lfg here on the discord
dry pumice
awesome man thanks, also, is the ingame match-making system good or is it better...
Might as well start getting used to LFG.
Matchmaking is currently somewhat alive due to influx of free & new players, but that won't last long. Also heard some horror stories about griefiers.
Local LFG channels are more reliable in both senses.
maiden jacinth
cheers, thanks for the help
random flume
Hi! Will this latest update be the last?
tepid sand
chilly abyss
quick question, is there any way to turn off, like, any of the visual effects (like the ghosting effect on text/the movement in the menu)? i poked at the accessibility settings but i might be missing something
ocean spindle
think theres a mo to deactivate that ghost effect but thats about it?
u can maybs search for more in the modded scheme
chilly abyss
yeah, i just found the "hud pixel effect" option but i was wondering if anything else was squirreled away 🤔 i might check over there as well. i don't have issues with photosensitivity but all the extra visual effects are definitely making my eyes hurt a bit
dry pumice
yeah, i just found the "hud pixel effect" option but i was wondering if anything...
Do you use anti-aliasing, and if you do - which one?
civic wave
Gui.mirroring shouldn't be affected by antialiasing
harsh glen
Does the game pause if you hit escape while you're playing alone with bots
civic wave
The game cannot be paused, but there won't exactly be anything happening outside of some specific circumstances
So you can afk and hope the game doesn't crap out from being open too long
dry pumice
Can confirm. When soloing with bots i on at least on 2 occasions just went afk for like 30 minutes with the game running.
As long as its not one of them cursed levels...
harsh glen
so as long as i'm not in active combat i can just afk?
harsh glen
i usually just hit esc
proper quiver
is rundown 8 hard
earnest compass
Are any of the new weapons like the new meta to put on bots?
or should i still do carbine/burst rifle and machine gun
slender birch
Recommended rundowns for beginners?? About to start a game with some new friends.
earnest compass
1 3 and 6 are typically the easiest aren't they?
ocean spindle
pretty much, but usually goin in order its fine
ocean spindle
and if u get stuck u just skip to the next one
also yeah no
burst pistol its kinda precision, slug shottie well its a shottie
and short rifle also has a bit of precision
plus none are autos
hazy wedge
i only got till b2
You got this
ocean spindle
:D
hazy wedge
Recommended rundowns for beginners?? About to start a game with some new friends...
Try what you like first. It’s important to note what guns you’re comfortable and not comfortable with. If you really want recommendations though, then hel revo and veruta machinegun
silver fable
Try what you like first. It’s important to note what guns you’re comfortable and...
they said rundowns, not guns/loadouts 
hazy wedge
My bad my brain is not working
fierce nebula
gun load 🥴
hazy wedge
The GTFO Survival Guide says to start R1A1 > R6A1 > R5A2 > R7A1 but I would complete all of R1 first
hazy wedge
Best loadout I’ve ever seen
ocean spindle
i mean pr smg its not, bad
ocean spindle
bit funky for ammo balance
narrow niche
pdw sniper on a newbie
ocean spindle
but u got a long range weapon and ur close range weapon
also yeah sniper idk most newies always take it
its the gamer impulse
hazy wedge
I still don’t understand the nerf of mid tier guns tho
hazy wedge
Gun long must have
ocean spindle
long gun when
hazy wedge
Sniper nerf is also making sense
hazy wedge
Except sniper reload is bugged
ocean spindle
sniper 2 in mag uh recoil and reload i think?
hazy wedge
how is sniper nerf?
2 shots per mag, longer fire rate, higher recoil
hazy wedge
It makes sense because sniper was always meta and now it’s no longer meta
narrow niche
so real
dry pumice
Its somewhat complicated
silver fable
It makes sense because sniper was always meta and now it’s no longer meta
was it? I feel like experienced crews were starting to bring 1 on 4mans again, but it wasn't anything crazy
timid grove
It makes sense because sniper was always meta and now it’s no longer meta
let me guess the ne metas scattergun
narrow niche
yes
dry pumice
Sniper for a while was effectively replaced by Scattergun and Burst Cannon, both of which fulfilled the same purpose but with extra utility into smalls if situations arises. Best sniper could do was to pick a random small and fuck him in particular.
ocean spindle
let me guess the ne metas scattergun
i mean no still no
ifo just says yes cause they a goblin
:3
narrow niche
scatter :3
timid grove
so then what is?
ocean spindle
same as always
dry pumice
BC got nerfed too, so.
ocean spindle
technically combat shottie/machinegun, but depends on the mission
timid grove
BC got nerfed too, so.
?
silver fable
only rationale I can get behind for scattergun buffs is that they wanted the community to meme on it again
dry pumice
fixed*
Scatter got buffed instead and acquireda additional ammo, so i guess its the meta now?
hazy wedge
was it? I feel like experienced crews were starting to bring 1 on 4mans again, b...
Yeah I mean sniper can be used for R8B2, but I just stopped using sniper overall now
dry pumice
I actually haven't tried the reworked one.
timid grove
thats not a nerf
narrow niche
scatter is just better
hazy wedge
let me guess the ne metas scattergun
You’re god damn right. Scatter is a meme weapon
dry pumice
its damage and ammo efficancy went up
I wanted to say "BC" but wrote "scatter" for some reason
silver fable
Yeah I mean sniper can be used for R8B2, but I just stopped using sniper overall...
I accept that it's been sidelined now, but that's because it's ass now
narrow niche
yuki check dms smh
timid grove
if they added overpenatration to scatter it whould truely be a meme
dry pumice
Flawless hybrid kills, i suppose?
dry pumice
Well, anyway
timid grove
door breaks "BOOM" wave gone
silver fable
scatter could already 1shot hybrids before
dry pumice
That too
narrow niche
aim for head though
timid grove
no mine required
timid grove
its more reliable now
dry pumice
New sniper seems to be somewhat balanced really, not sure what's going on with scatter though
ocean spindle
my guess is they wanted to like take a stand in the middle of scattergun and sniper and kinda make em equal in stats but also just different on execution
but idk
hazy wedge
New sniper seems to be somewhat balanced really, not sure what's going on with s...
What about BC? It has the old recoil but I’m not sure if I like the 3 round burst
narrow niche
i mean
silver fable
New sniper seems to be somewhat balanced really, not sure what's going on with s...
the rebalance seems like the worst of both worlds imo
timid grove
more stabbility
dry pumice
I found it endearing
But the recoil needs to go
I fucked up a scout kill because of it.
NORMAL. scout kill
that was cringe
narrow niche
you dont have to waste bullets when bodying giants from the front
or back
:3
wait actually
maybe not the second statement
silver fable
old sniper controlled fine, the throughput of offing 3 bigs gave it relevance but wasn't busted
timid grove
you dont have to waste bullets when bodying giants from the front
2 bursts and 1 burt
silver fable
now it's kinda ass to use
dry pumice
old sniper controlled fine, the throughput of offing 3 bigs gave it relevance bu...
That is true
silver fable
but if people get around it being ass, then they get the high eco of offing 5 bigs per refill
dry pumice
A major complaint was that people were not happy with ammo supply. The not-vets-average kind that is.
narrow niche
but if people get around it being ass, then they get the high eco of offing 5 bi...
scatter is 5.5 uwu
hazy wedge
Imagine having issues with sniper ammo supply
dry pumice
So devs gave it ammo... And nerfed the ONE thing they could touch, which was the mag.
However the recoil and fire rate nerfs were unneeded.
And the hipfire accuracy too
hazy wedge
However the recoil and fire rate nerfs were unneeded.
And the unintentional reload bug
dry pumice
There was nothing wrong with it
silver fable
scatter is 5.5 uwu
ya I know, I don't know why they're pushing the big killers' eco like this
narrow niche
tbf hipfiring sniper 💀
timid grove
also can we talk about the slug shotgun for a sec?
ocean spindle
no
dry pumice
tbf hipfiring sniper 💀
I do it all the time when giants get too close for quickscopes
hazy wedge
Sniper hipfire has a larger cone than scatter atp
timid grove
it has replaced revolver
dry pumice
It did not
timid grove
beter flashlight
narrow niche
Sniper hipfire has a larger cone than scatter atp
:3
dry pumice
Wait, normal or HEL one?
hazy wedge
Revolver is still good. The reload animation needs to gtfo
narrow niche
the slug sucks ass
silver fable
it has replaced revolver
...but it's not even competing for the same slot?
narrow niche
the shot delay + ammo
timid grove
more ammo then choke mod and can one mag a giant
dry pumice
Oh i forgot to test new revo reload
narrow niche
god
dry pumice
brb
hazy wedge
the slug sucks ass
But it one shots scout 🥺
narrow niche
more ammo then choke mod and can one mag a giant
hel shotty can one mag a giant
timid grove
the shot delay + ammo
well if you need time to aim
timid grove
hel shotty can one mag a giant
ok and
hazy wedge
Tbf slug shotty would be a great viable weapon if it had just a little more ammo
timid grove
total or mag
narrow niche
the shot delay probably just takes practice
i keep
switching off after pressing right and
missing
timid grove
also the hipfire is nice
hazy wedge
Short rifle sight goes hard. The gun itself is poopy tho
timid grove
Short rifle sight goes hard. The gun itself is poopy tho
LIQUID OPTICS
hazy wedge
And burst pistol is a mini dtr
hazy wedge
😭
dry pumice
I found slugger to be low key my new favorite main. I really love the feedback of it. The only issues is that striker oneshot distance needs to be increased by like a... 3-5 meters tops.
silver fable
more ammo then choke mod and can one mag a giant
it takes like 5 seconds to 1mag a big with it, and you need to be fairly close, and it uses nearly an entire refill for it
whereas choke 1mags a big in half a second from 15m away and you get 2 bigs per refill
also again main v special
timid grove
burst pistol is a mini.
just a teesy little boi
hazy wedge
I found slugger to be low key my new favorite main. I really love the feedback o...
My friend used slug on a flyer that was meters away and it died in one shot. Very weird hmm
narrow niche
My friend used slug on a flyer that was meters away and it died in one shot. Ver...
slug funny uwu
timid grove
it takes like 5 seconds to 1mag a big with it, and you need to be fairly close, ...
pretty good for a main
dry pumice
Such a fascinating gun
timid grove
save the ammo refil rate
silver fable
actually sawnoff also 1mags a big now, you need to be within like 4m but it does it in like a second
dry pumice
Its very small so takes no space on screen... Surprisingly powerful flashlight, great at hipfiring.
I do NOT understand the ADS on it though
Something's off about it.
timid grove
actually sawnoff also 1mags a big now, you need to be within like 4m but it does...
i hope they change it to 4 barrels
silver fable
pretty good for a main
I'm more unimpressed by its clear rate on smalls, and the kill potential into bigs doesn't bail it out for me the way it might for sawnoff
timid grove
I do NOT understand the ADS on it though
i think its slightly above or below the circle middle
dry pumice
Would prefer for it to be a 3-burst pistol though
timid grove
i mean hel shotty kills in like 2.5 seconds
range?
silver fable
i hope they change it to 4 barrels
nah, it gets to join the cool phantom barrel club with hel revo
hazy wedge
Hel shotty range is like 3 meters
timid grove
does range matter if you can literally cross the room in the same time?
at that point take scattergun
narrow niche
yea
timid grove
"its a main"
its the meta as you say 🙂
narrow niche
rip
timid grove
headshots
timid grove
like i said kinda like revolver
timid grove
but no aiming at close range
dry pumice
i cannot see a thing
narrow niche
i mean the fact is
silver fable
still not good
it'd be fine imo if its fire rate wasn't as bad as hel rifle's
narrow niche
it has like 25 starting ammo
timid grove
i cannot see a thing
what about the machinegun?
timid grove
and has no fire rate too
"time to aim"
silver fable
it has like 25 starting ammo
7.5 per refill, imo you wouldn't want an easy 1tap weapon to get more ammo than that
timid grove
7.5 per refill, imo you wouldn't want an easy 1tap weapon to get more ammo than ...
7.5?
narrow niche
7.5 per refill, imo you wouldn't want an easy 1tap weapon to get more ammo than ...
sawed off gets 8.2
uwu
silver fable
sawed off gets 8.2
and it only has 3 per mag- oh wait nvm
narrow niche
4
dry pumice
what about the machinegun?
What, Arbalist? its actually one of the best in the game, you can see EVERYTHING
narrow niche
:3
timid grove
how much do the spetial pump get?
timid grove
What, Arbalist? its actually one of the best in the game, you can see EVERYTHING
the one that go BRRRRRR
dry pumice
The 2 problems with slug sight is:
- its fucking RED
- the fact that its generated by 2 intersecting holograms forming a weird X on your screen, while Arbalist just has one source of hologram, exactly under it
dry pumice
The 2 "legs" of the sight is what disorients me the most
timid grove
the sawed off does 120 per mag
old scatter
dry pumice
For this reason i honestly just hip-fire the thing
silver fable
4
honestly sawnoff getting pump shotty ammo per refill when its shots are literally pump shotty shots, was a bit of an eyebrow raiser
but it's kinda in that clunky "special as main" category with hel shotty so I felt it was okay
...but then they gave it an extra round per mag, which starts to allow it to have comparable uptime into waves to other good mains
narrow niche
honestly sawnoff getting pump shotty ammo per refill when its shots are literall...
i mean
hel shotty does 180 per mag
idk
sorry
190
mb
silver fable
yeah and hel shotty is S tier
timid grove
whats the slug damage again?
dry pumice
21 or something
narrow niche
yeah and hel shotty is S tier
fair fair
silver fable
but at least it's kinda held back by range and being kinda ass against isolated strikers
dry pumice
Difficulty goes down
dry pumice
But i'm not the one complaining.
silver fable
tbf I don't think sawnoff is the new best main either
dry pumice
Seen some people getting real salty though.
timid grove
Difficulty goes down
FAX
silver fable
but I wouldn't give it a 4 round mag
hazy wedge
Just make every gun shitty. Bam no more complaining
narrow niche
so real
timid grove
Just make every gun shitty. Bam no more complaining
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
silver fable
Just make every gun shitty. Bam no more complaining
that'll cause the most complaining, especially among vets
you have no idea
hazy wedge
Lol Ik
silver fable
the crying when they nerfed BC
narrow niche
ok no but slug has sub 1k total damage
timid grove
then yall might finally take me seriously when i talk about the hel auto