#gtfo-related-questions
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which one
Did it change per level?
technically
NO TIME
THERES NO TIME
they werent 100% consistent
fuck this
well, they were for E
What was e1s
not doing this cam
calm down jish
it is just gonna be bad
since only 1 group cleared it
Was it your group
Yes
we got auri by chance
Haha so funny
it would better to literally just make a new camera
Nvm got carried
…
Thank you AURI
Yea
Is she as cool in rela life as she is online
I also helped auri get all the infos
i obviously am too stupid to do the actual modding, but most of the info stuff is what i wrote down
Did it include the drop text
Drop text as in the level description in the rundown?
the one that flashes up mid drop?
yeah
THERE WAS NO TIME
WE HAVE NO TIME
@hardy grotto No tTIME
"I have to leave in 30 minutes so we can do 1 run" -Gerz
TRUE
is this the same gerz that has a normal sleep cycle
my sleep cycle is very normal
sure
i almost fell asleep in my chair like 30 minutes ago
4 AM > 11 AM or worse?
typically i sleep at 2pm
Worse.
10pm pajamas and warm milk gang
^ this mf goes honk mimimimi
Its 2:AM and i'm like "should i play elden ring right now"
I have work tomorrow.
Big brain decisions only.
Night cap stays ON while I snooze
Get a job
mf be hearing noises in the middle of the night and going to search for them with a candle
House slippers on in case the ghosts of Christmas come to cause trouble
Starting to visualise a vintage cartoon
Keep goin guys
really? to this? damn
#gtfo-related-questions message
Welp, the issue solved itself. I've procrastinated for 30 minutes here, and now it makes no sense to go in. Off i go to attempt to sleep, better luck to the guy that wakes up at 11:AM
Bruh you Seen how simple cartoon was back in the day? Jee
Do r5e1 with bots
A better use of your Time
is lfg-ing with a voice channel required? i feel like r1a1 would be easy enough to go micless
or is communication THAT important
Just be upfront about being mute
Make sure that everyone in thé lobby IS also on thé vc
if you're good enough you can do whatever without comms
ok
The team decides in the end
if you post "chimp" in the lore channel you get a special role
if I can do r1a1 solo (no bots, hate that I have to specify this) in under 7 minutes, you can do r1a1 with other people without a vc, etc etc whatever, probably want to make sure you understand the game before doing anything stupid though
theres a lore channel?
can people join midgame? or do i have to wait before everybody can get in
people can join mid game, yes
in that case, in i go!
Where my role
wait for mods to give it to you
Ok then 
rip i died in my first r1a1 run because i spent a full hour wandering
turns out, i missed the MAIN DOOR
damn
its fine, it happens, specially on first runs
I sometimes envy new players cuz of the first hand experience
Does anyone deal with lag randomly while running a mission
Kinda like a sync issue or something. I can’t really think of the specific term to say because I rarely come across it.
is r2d2 one of the hardest levels
like top 10 hardest?
desync?
Yea I think that’s what it is.
Everyone was lagging randomly during it.
Prolly top 15
mid game? so like
can they take over a bot
?
Can we make it a self appointed role
Damn it jish you keep throwing me off every so often
same
Gonna make you more unstable before days end
Mission accomplished so far
Probably like a B
No you want to know what I am done
DONE
I am about to join the police force then go undercover
And lie to a innocent family for fun
No
never mind
👽

Since this is the last rundown, are the previous ones going to be made available for new players?
Quite literally just got a friend group down to commit to weekly sessions 😂
„This“ isnt the last rundown
Rundown 8 will be
also all old rundowns are currently (or in the case of rundown 6 soon) available and will be in the futute
They've started re-adding rundowns a long ago now
they are readding rundowns
they already in, did you boot up the game???
No. Not yet 😄
Just been reading wikis and news, getting ready for our friday session!
october of 2022 for r1...

certanly late for Wilhelm to only notice it now
Thank you @hidden ridge and @tardy ingot for your responses.
Fine, you get a pass
😂 ok internet tough guy
wheres my r6
we'll see in few hours
To quote Calle: not today
NOO!!!!!
He already confirmed tho
need!!!!
where
general chat
My pleasure internet sub
Perhaps because I already finished it, but I dont really get the hype for R6 since it's the easiest of the ones with sectors
Yep same
Nah dont get me wrong I kind of get it. I was hyped for alt r3 because I never played that
R8 will be a year m8
man
It's just R6 is a weak rundown
I think R8 will be sooner but perhaps jan-february
my hype is replaying where i started
they did mention that they'd work on Cyberheist (which will fix everything) after R8
they definitely had been working on r8 in the background to some extent
You are heavily in denial if you don't think the majority of the devs are not already on cyberheist
Ofc we know that there are 3 A's and 4 B's
I could see them half-ass R8 and leave like 2-3 people working on the details and whatnot
Which I assume it already happened
Oh well after R8 just go to modded.
That's PROBABLY because easier levels are easier to test (my speculation)
If Dak eventually releases his E1 !
Seen the devs on livestream: yes for them it is
I'll make a rundown that's just meme-levels
R2C2 but everything is in fog, no dis packs or stations, and error of shadows, no ammo or tool
A map that is just a long corridor with spitters
Tons of nonsensical alarms and cell carrying just to make you lose time and get spitter audio crash
Great level designs
Lots of levels that are fun to just play through (similar to say r7d2)
for bugs or for level difficulty?
difficulty, agree. Makes sense
complexity would probably play into the other one
see r7d1
im obviously on the edge for what they do with R8
its gonna be the last rundown and if it isnt at least good it will be a letdown
Can't remember but there was a modded rundown I played where it said onscreen "turn on the fucking lights" or something and shut all lights off. I opened a security door and there was like spawn-cap sleepers in the room blocking the way.
neither
Seems so.
I was asked whether it should be buffed or nerfed for a modded rundown

But yeah even with base game. I can't see it being buffed/nerfed really
Revolver is Balanced. Other guns are a smidge unbalanced and a bit powerful. If you want people to use it more without nerfing other weapons you'd need to buff it.
15 damage!! Let it 2 shot chargers!!!
I agree with that, swap hel gun and revolver damage
High call pistol 🥹
What was the giant stagger threshold again?
I vaguely recall some people wanting 15 damage Bat
15 damage bat 🤤
40 for light, 15 for limb break
I see
Yeah that's right. Because it needs back to break limbs

Stagger giant limbs
2 shot chargers
I'd buff the revolver
Would help revolver when it comes to bigger enemies I guess
Skill issue just click more heads (/s)
10.53 precision
i mean u say /s tru but thats kinda it
its a gun that rewards headclicking
the kovaaks weapon
Even if it is true saying it would be mean and i am smol nice bean
(Lowkey still can't believe It's becoming a normal weapon for me to take.)
If it doesn't send my enemy flying then whats the point
Headshot
They always run out of ammo couple shoots too soon than I feel comfortable with
The one thing I can praise HELRev on
14.51!! Two shot chargers!@
8 seems to be a solid number
Oh god, you're right
It got more in common with with PR than I thought...
The precision rifle
The precision rifle
The precision rifle
the rifle precision
@lusty bramble what are your thoughts on the effect the Precision Rifle had on the economy?
to this day I still get a person every now and then that doesn't believe me revolver/Precision Rifle have similar damage
pdw revo ...

You want me to just Double Revo
Is that it
But I don't wanna use that all rounder Helrevo
I don't wanna go back to Hel revo syndrome
Yes
I'm inclined to say both albeit some A/B levels are pretty big, but mainly difficulty
may i suggest dtr + revo
Go back to doing R3D1
Get that "1st clear"
Double tap is alright. Not my preference though.
ok im fucking done with r3d1, can't clear it so i'm moving on to r6c3 pe
i could hlep you sometime voxy, i'm kind of a professional haha, maybe we could exchange steam names on snapchat?
go away p*b
WOAH

big talk from someone who hasnt beaten r5b4...
hope you clear r6c3 soon
It’s not out yet
Scouts modded rundown 
ill try
Man has no self control
yer
You can brute force the 2 Alarms at the start, then you have 2 lonely solo scouts to play with one for each room and then some more in the rooms ahead
That level is surprisingly rich with scouts for a measly B1
i mean r7b1 has two past the first three doors, and they are in a hub
ok
... funk
which door?
the team scan door, go right from spawn then north
Maybe it's R5 lol oops
no, theres another door apart from the bulkhead one in r4a3, is on the right and north
the bulkhead for sec is on the left
and then main is all the way to the very right part of the map
if i remember correctly
Does anyone know if they are going to change the bot logic to be able to pick up objective items during an alarm again? I used to have a lot of fun with bots but it's frustrating now.
@craggy pier

shlorp
a mod called better bots does that and more (whether or not better bots does too much is up for debate, personally I never used it so I'm not going to say anything else)
aimbot+kiting is too much for sure
better bots with around like...50% of the aim improvement would be nice for basegame
the base aim is actually fine in my opinion
the huge blaring issues are friendly fire and no self preservation
Eh, they could use a slight like 10% buff to averall DPS, will come useful in some of the more tight alarms and situations.
I feel like currently the bots hit maybe ~40% of their shots and it should be ~60%
but no self preservation is absolutely right
If I could just change one thing, it is their behavior regarding enemies getting too close
At least trying to get just a bit of distance and shoot
Instead of picking up their melee weapon
Will all the bots still try and res you?
It is all I am asking for
I think a bigger part of the equation is whether or not you want 1 guy+3 bots to be able to clear the game without using extreme glitches or stuff like that
1 of em and only if its safe enough
Imo that part should just depend on if the level is realistic to do without splitting up
This is without better bots correct?
with better bots
without it they go for the res immediately regardless of the situation
Ok i was asking ab vanilla
No I mean on a fundamental level
Damn and all of them, still?
just one
it would almsot be interesting to see bots get a little better as you go deeper
if one dies another bot goes for it until they all die
cause buff them from vanilla too much and there'll be little reason for a good enough vet not to bring them instead of 3 randos
so they can actually be helpful on lower levels but not steamroll A tiers
i mean for most levels, yes. Obviously you're going to have to put more effort in, but I just want them to play more smart tbh
not BetterBots smart
That just kicks the can down the road IMHO
where they're auto dodging bullets as they res
u can always use an older version
but just like, to not melee in the middle of combat
they dont do that
idk I was watching shift clear my rundown's C1 and they were dodging as they revived
it an animation but prolly cuz they still take damage
I also think bots would be way better if yknow, they weren't bugged
looking at the heavy carry in combat bug
before that it was the ladder bug and before that they were shit at scans
there's also definitely a few enemies that bots should have to establish a safe distance with, imo. looking at chargers/bbc, tanks, and ofc pablo
bots giving the giant charger The Flouride Stare as it instadowns them
just if bots played more sensibly, I think it'd be a lot more fun to use them, and not feel like a task
too bad 🤷♂️
check media
@dry pumice wdym its hidden???
you cant see gtfo media?
did you go into roles and channels and unclick it?
you need a role to see it?
no theres a thing where you can can/need to click on channels/categories to see them
No, I hid it. So that I don't miss click it and cause it to suck all my phone traffic when I'm not on wifi
I'm slamming play button like Kentaro and it doesn't start.
im glad ive joined before such syste;
click the link, easier than trying to watch through discord
Yeah, now it worked.
Bots start behaving abnormally when locked out
Their desire to reach the player interferes with all other of their logistics
Which probably prevented him from doing the usual bot thing and reaching for his melee when one of the strikers got too close
He was literally too busy trying to phase through the door to do that
Sleepers maybe don’t agro on them
What's the best objective order on R5A2?
Ty
Lul aight
How does the infection resist booster's percentage scale with time inside infection? e.g. 96% = 2 minutes before infection starts appearing
different levels have different infection speeds
Almost an entire expédition before getting 1%
Appears that 3-4 minutes gets you up to 25% with 96%
Sounds about right
Which levels have increased infection speed?
You would need to check the fog data block
All infection fog is different
Although 0.3 or something is the most common number
it's actually overwhelmingly most of the levels, didn't know that
there are like 3 settings that have number different than 0.0 or 0.03
basically the only one that'll matter is r3a2 ending
which has 0.15 infection compared to normal 0.03
probably A3, but that's because you are never fully in the fog
Just wondering what project thermonuclear is? I saw it in the other tab and wasn’t quiet sure what it was but I like the name
what
I think it’s some sort of mod thingy?
.t modding
While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)
No idea, i don't do modding
Custom rundown
Ah, kk ty I thought it was some lore thing for the base game since frosty was mentioned in it
Thé maker of that rundown
Oh neat
Interesting, I only see it rising back but not enough infection where I bat an eye
Is there any anti-cheat ?.. I just had a super sus rundown no enemies on the entire lvl
no, what level
What do they mean by original old Rundowns does that mean the first couple in the game?
How can you tell if it's an ALT?
it'll say ALT:##
also every rundown except 7 is alt
you don't have to worry about the original rundown rule at all
Ok thank you so much
Is there a list of optimal sector orders for each level? The wiki doesn't have any pages for R5
usually by, a first run and queryin the keys u can see the order
tho if u want a specific level u can always ask here, in case ur confused abouts it
first runs always blind then u know how it is
Yea, I've ran through pretty much all the levels already, going back through for PE. Hate to be constantly asking for help lol
I'm doing R5A3 rn tho
Excuse me im new to this sever and im trying to get in a match with some people, im by myself
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
r5a3
is overload then sec
sec starts errror at some point doesnt turn off
gl
damn no need to spoil it either qwq
it is an hsu
it is always error
you can check on on term in 10 secs
tbf, some sectors have hsus and then the objective isnt hsu
no
and also idk why u would wanna spoil it by lookin in the terminal
slendi
slendo
that is insane
i dont want to spoil the ammo location
until i find it
XD
thats how u play, lookin in every room till u find it

ok no fr i dont like listin zones like before hand, if i have a mission i havent played i wont go list key, list cell, to find if i need some of those
ill just go in, and if i find a keycard door, then i will query it
and if i find a sector, well put my pants in go in blind
we drop list key list cell
list objectives
list ammo and tool see how much we get
roughly
eh for me thats too borin, i go in just savin up on it
i never liked spoilin myself, just goin in to all the surprises, i only really did it for r7c1 when i was learnin about it, and only cause i died couple times in the GLP part so i wanted to see
its not that idk how, is that it takes a bit of the fun away
if im on an error and i know theres a cell that i need, i wanna figure it out in that moment
Dunno how it takes fun but ok
feel the tension, the fear of 'oh god i need this im gonna get fucked'
instead of 'ah well i already know where it is, idc'
i practically only use query, and list resources
or well, res
OVL - sec - main normally
sec - ovl - main if you're a gigathad
Will there ever be lore material?
yeh, ALT r6 and R8 have a lot of stuff to answer
Why prisoners?
Why Underground gigantic labs?
Why several feet below earth?
Where the "things" came from?
Who is the warden?
Who supports the warden and these incursions?
well if u want a summary, theres a pinned document in #gtfo-lore
all those r already answered
Gah dayumn #gtfo-media message
„Will there ever be lore material“
- the gigantic logs found in a lot of levels

his name has "Skrillex" mispelled
With respect to Matchmaking I almost feel it'd be better to just lazily add Steam MM/server browser from the old days than to have a MM search function that just hangs you forever. Especially if they're going to abandon the game now
#community-news message
this discussions comes up every so often
The community would most probably still use this discord as the main matchmaking system.
Plus theres all the things of people having open player slots but not wanting to have random people join
I like server browsers and it's a shame they are disappearing from games but I dont think it'd change much in GTFO's case, really.
With respect to blocking joiners, the tried and tested and frankly ancient method of having the ability to set a password for a server beats that front
Also it's not like server browser and ingame mm cant work together
Yeah it's a "Why not both" discussion rather than either/or
I dont get discussions like that either
as if games didnt already fix that issue by putting passwords on lobbies or whatever
everytime you mention shit like that I feel like some people think they never existed in the first place
Are the devs gonna do it? No
Would it have been something hard to ask? No
It makes it required for any party that doesnt want people to join
Adding a hassle for 1 part of the community to make the other part have a potentially easier time is 
Consider that open lobbies might he afks, people that forgot to password lock it or similar
Obviously it could have been done
"adding a hassle"
bha
They aren't gonna do it but whatever
If the game was server sided i could see it being more of a logical addon
heck, look at DRG
bha?
it has passwords, quick mm and lobby browser
and I dont think anyone goes "that's too much! I get overwhelmed!"
Its also takes a more casual approach
Honestly it is at the start lol
you get used to it obviously
...perhaps it's because I'm old
but that was all cs 1.6 had 😛
game wise yeah but
All these concerns about open/closed lobbies, active/dead lobbies, are better than facing an endless "Searching for matches" circle that leads to a refund when the player can check out the lobbies themselves
how is that more casual than literally putting 4 randos in ingame mm together?
Thats the ingame matchmaking tho?
which simply isnt used
I never said ingame matchmaking is better
a lobby browser wouldve worked out better
albeit be more work
So, at this point there needs to be a warning on the GTFO sale-point page of "REQUIRES DISCORD ACCOUNT AND CLIENT TO PLAY" 😂
but definetly better
or friends

Also not the devs fault the community prefers the discord over matchmaking
it exists (its not that good but still) its just not used
Not going to lie, GTFO steam charts report a whopping (I'm being sarcastic) 826 concurrent players in 24-h
or should ARK add „REQUIRES UNOFFICIAL SERVERS“
chances are you already have discord
If anyone expects fast mm they bought the wrong game
unless you're hopping on skype to play gtfo with the boys
I didnt
I am genuinely trying to not use Discord what with it's onerous terms of service 😅
the exception
I can understand the point of discord being the major matchmaker being weird tho
Its often a point people overexaggerate tho (as in „discord is EVIL!)
It ain't evil but...
Discord's seed money has run out, they need to generate revenue and growth. They're evil relative to the consumer/average user
let's say all the "CUTIE PIES HELLO" comments in generals are... a bit... weird?
Thats just internet communities
All those servers with pronoun choices 😄
Rounding back to the original point, server browser integration is part of the Steam service. There's even a default GUI window for them built into Steam. Pointing back at the "lazy implementation" originating comment, it really is as simple as "Just use what already exists and tack it on as you abandon the game", especially in the context of the Steam reviews and Discussions forum that's littered with "Nobody plays?" "Where are the players?"
how exactly does the „steam server browser“ work tho?
I think he either means the old feature I remember from CSS or the fact that most (I think all? I know L4D2 has it) Valve games you just write openserverbrowser and it shows a basic server browser (which is, therefore, a bit hidden)
Pretty much
I'm surprised thats not a thing even though the early versions did not had amm at all
When did that appeared? R6?
But how will that help the people who legit cant even find the discord?
i feel like most of them wouldnt know of that and just say „no player!1!!11“ anyhow
OG R4
it would need to be smth clickable for the people that actively complain about too few players (due to the unused matchmaking)
Steam lets you list the servers your players are running to Steams server list. Ingame you have a button that triggers either an ingame server GUI that gets the servers from Steam or you could trigger the Steam overlay and open the server browser from the same button which is a jankier but cheaper way of doing it.
You don't even have to load the game to see the active servers. In the Steam client select View then Game Servers to browse all servers, the API is queryable publicly so you can also have web-browser that shows what's active
https://www.steamserverbrowser.com/
Ah so those
i used that for ark a bunch
since im semi tech illiterate
Would that work with gtfo being peer to peer?
I mean it worked if you hosted your own server in L4D2
so I guess it aint impossible?
Yes, there's differing levels of jank depending on precicely how they handled the netcode but it can be done and it should be a sufficient crutch if the planned final Matchmaking update doesn't quite cut the mustard
final matchmaking update
O.o?
i dont think matchmaking will get an update
and i dont think it would even do anything
The community that is active outside of their friend groups is already mostly set on using discord
people just dont change what they use if they can avoid it
They said in their "We're leaving soon" message that they were looking at fixing Matchmaking
#community-news message
Arguably since they're stating they require 3rd party EULAs on their Steam sale page they should add a line beneath for "Discord EULA/TOS"

Huh where?
I mean it obviously isnt required
Plus it being the primary communication meetup software in the internet kind of means most people use it anyway :|
Huh oh yeah, I guess I must have somehow thought they were gonna fix MM. Guess I was mistaken. Wow, that's not better
Honestly they cant rly „fix“ it
they can obviously fix its bugs and make it better
a matchmaking can be perfect, but if it isnt used then its still useless
Arguably, players should be able to join rundowns they haven't unlocked if they're joining a server via MM. I'm in a state where obviously I'll never find servers or people wanting to play R1 and that's what I'm seeing in the forums and reviews
Active player counter, active servers counter, rundown-player-distribution stats showing who's playing what, or at least functional bots would account for the limitations of the current multiplayer system
Huh, it isnt that hard to find people for r1 :|
And bots are easily good enough to do all of r1, nearly all of r2, all of r3 etc
Also regarding being able to join not unlocked levels
that comes with the issue of absolutely ruining the experience of the other players if joining missions above the players skill lvl
At that point though, the problem becomes a lot different
I kind of cringe when people ask for other beginners then they whine they find noone
"I cant find people to finish map X" "I can help" "No, I dont want to get carried"
Which is praiseworthy but eh
Kinda moves the issue from "Cant find people" to "Cant find people I like"

Pdw revo…
Agree
Then theres still a difference between being a newbie who doesnt wanna be carried and a nexperienced player who doesnt want a newbie to troll him in a hard mission
wasn’t there someone very recently saying they didn’t want to play with experienced players cause they’ll just speedrun the level
I mean that’s how i play pubs
yeah, you just watch them go
i tab out
was kinda tempted to join and do that, and yes i know you tab out Gerz
let them do everything, let them fuck up, kite enemies around to around damage or whatever while they're kicking and screaming and dying
and then clean up and res them
I basically do what wesley said
I clear myself a path to where we need to be, grab a pack then afk there til they arrive
let them get punished but keep the run going or something
Just use LFg and there is enough peeps playing R1
If its actually beginners then i just wait n chill behind them
not that I play pubs, let alone ones with new players, but
the machine pistol menace, shark simp supreme
And as Eva said, joining later levels makes you a handicap, it's not fun for you and not for the others
I'm trying better bots
It's hilarious
They're basically killing machines
Fuck at this point I started being the one carrying the baby anyway
they just maul through shit
and dauda was not getting hit while carrying the baby for some reason
But but, its how bots should be!
We should rename the mod into "GTFO for socially inept"
You will be branded elitist and gatekeeper for that
Yeah but it's not cheating you know !!!!
I've never bothered to check the vanilla bots
but those headshot with Veruta from 25meters
maybe they can do even more
And they're just so good at ammo preservation
well that's granted
I should bring back that username, huh
They basically soloed pmom
I hit it like 4-6 times with shotty they did the rest
perhaps if I didnt chase her they wouldn't have shot her
I want to see what I can get away with now
Let me try r3b1 doing nothing other than standing in the scans
I'll try to wake up all the room then just juggle until an alarm happens
There's something seriously wrong with how little damage they take
bishop lost 24% hp and that's it
I never shot a bullet nor hammered I just kited and shoved
Someone doubted me last night but i swear they perfect dodge most attacks
they're on 20/30% ammo each it's so absurd
I legit did nothing but run into rooms and trigger them
I think it's a combination of things
like I see enemies try to go for me
and not them, usually
yeah it’s a bit ridiculous. There’s definitely something causing them to take less hits other than the fact that they aren’t meleeing anymore
bishop is the only one taking damage and he has biotracker
Makes sense
no it's
Getting damaged during pings
Yeah lol better bots moment
They're FINALLY finishing ammo
How far are you in B1?
Ah
just did the class 5 for the warden door
bruh
never used a tool
neither I nor them exclusing biotracker
I didnt shoot an enemy and woke up ALL the rooms I could
by entering and hel revolving the air
[BOT] Bishop R4E1 carry when?
"My motion scanner says you fellas are about to die"
I think he's talking to the sleepers now
let me give them ammo I want to see if I can do a run where I just shove
fuck it's Omaha beach levels of meatgrinding
It's fantastic I wake up a scout, sit in angle, watch as the magic happens

Honestly, Payday 2's style of matchmaking would have been perfect for GTFO
R7D2?
They dont stand in the extraction scan lel
nah I'm just gonna finish this and go but damn
Ok now the real test
I did r3b1 waking everything up, never using any tool (nor me nor them save for bioscanner) and never doing anything other than shove and run
Tbh
With bots in r6 i did multiple levels without doing any dmg myself. Only tools of the bots and them
The only thing i did was move around, loot and start alarms/open doors. well and aggro rooms
Worked for a1, b1/2, c1 and c3 main
Hey guys! Kinda new to the game. I noticed there is a slider for mouse sens in game but also another one for mouse aim mode. Having "1.00" in this slider means that I have the same mouse sens for both? Like in "1.00" as 1 for 1?
Mouse aim: when aiming down sights
Mouse: mouse (anytime not ads)
Def not broken
thanks I know that lol. I was asking if there is a way to know if the zoom sens can be the same as the mouse sens as 1 for 1.
sometimes it's not that easy
It is in this game
yea?
what's confusing me is that it's not called zoom sens. It's called mouse aim mode sens scale
But mine are both set at like .5 and I use 2000dpi and if feels same sens ads and not ads
There isn't a relative fov based sensitivity so scopes will feel different based on how they zoom
Weapons without scope are pretty 1:1 except for the little zoom they have
Ok thanks guys
Alright so I decided to go in training mode and tried it with the 360 method. Turns out I was right. 1.00 (max in the slider) means 1:1. Same distance was done in hipfire and ads.
How much foam does it take to freeze a scout without alerting? Do I need a full charge or
5 Blobs
And they'll aggro if I only hit them with 1-4 right
Cfoam will never wake up an enemy
If you hit them while foamed they'll wake though
Enemies just do not care about foam I guess
Yep
How does that work?
do bots experience recoil
no
cof cof
As long as you avoid getting shot by them
Payday 2 has CrimeNet, and it shows lobbies/games in progress. Which I think would have worked better for GTFO rather than the "select a level and hope to god someone else is matchmaking for it too"
a simple game browser you could sort by rundown/etc would be nice
Help me understand - who is using the burst cannon and what on God's green earth is the use-case
hello
well burst cannon has insane amounts of damage, 95 with its 5 bullets, which means it can take big enemies on a single burst on the back, and do serious damage to other enemies which are probably spoilers
plus, unlike the sniper, you can spray it at a wave and still kill a few enemies w/o it veing overkill, since it will leave the enemy u hit with a single bullet at very low health, which means potential double kills in a single burst
yeah problem is it has a lot of recoil, but still a lot of dmg w/o needin headshots
Small ammo pool tells me even in those scenarios you'd be better off with something more ammo efficient
most people just use something like choke mod though which has a greater ease of use
65 total ammo/13 bursts isn't terrible at all
Yeah it seems like you can use it but there's probably a better tool
depends, sometimes its very useful for certain enemies, and the ammo pool compared to like, a sniper is not really bad
it is not a bad weapon to go for, but if u simply like others more, its fine
its a lot of heavy dmg and its useful on various situations
but a sniper at the end has more dmg on headshots and more range, even if it is more niche and case-specific
and- not super useful always
mid range boss damage (along with choke mod), and high boss dps (along with choke mod/reg shotgun)
niche but strong if you can use it, really, otherwise just take a shotgun of some kind or sniper
some kind- theres only one wuh
What are thoughts on special revolver vs hidmg pistol
am i forgettin one
Revolver seems nice initially with high ammo supply but in practice I've found it's difficult to quickly deal damage in waves
revolver is good, high cal I'd say is more niche, but easier to use
revo is a more difficult but rewardin high cal
revo needs headshots to be efficient, it eliminates smol enemies on a single shot, it reloads very fast, and with good aim u can do a lot with it, specially with reload cancellin
high cal is just more dmg, but a slower weapon, eliminates strikers with a bodyshot, shooters with a headshot and in general is, easier to use, tho has less ammo and stuff
revolver can decimate waves if you can hit heads
from, what i remember
how much ammo did revo had?
im gonna search
52
so yeah revo has, more ammo than a high cal, but a higher skill ceiling too
I think it's like 54 total or something
Revo gets 18 bullets per refill
I think it depends on the refill
On some you get 12 on some you get 11
I think the 0.xx part gets retained, but the display value is truncated, so you'll see 12 or 11 depending on whether the decimals add up to another bullet, but you're still getting the same amount per refill.
90/bullet cost according to the datamine spreadsheet
Yeah it is a float it is like mines
Sometimes you get two sometimes you get one
but you're technically still getting the same per refill yeah
Yup
just that it's not enough partial to hit another threshold
High cal also has some utility against giants whereas revolver does not
High cal can get two that way though
Rev can pop heads but in practice my aim isn't on lock often enough for waves
I do like it, feels like a great backup for most weapons but if I'm using it during waves I find I deal more damage (effectively) with my main
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yeah, all depends on your aim and how the enemies are moving.
when a bunch of things are charging you, taking your time to aim wouldn't do you much good
but in the right situations, you can pop a small horde rapidly while maintaining ridiculous ammo efficiency with fast reload.
We can’t always consider skill issues when evaluating guns
with a team, you don't always have to shoot everything, and can focus on getting the easy shots to maximize your efficiency
i love alt-tabbing out of gtfo while my 3 other teammates shoot the s1 scan for me
how hard is r2e1? for people with less than 70 hours in the game and havent played it in 4 plus months
And if you only have 1 teammate? You alt tab anyway
i want to introduce some friends back in a fun way
R2E1 one of the harder missions in the game, final half is particularly nasty
um probs, unbeatable until practice
Good luck!
Ya R2E1 is definitley hard once you get about 1/2 way in
I start to feel stupid for even trying to shoot in a 4 man if I'm with trigger happy lunatics, what's the point
i have gotten to the first scan on the way to extraction and it doesnt seem to hard, except people need to know that they dont need to worry about the infection fog
first part is fine. it's mainly the last error alarm section where you need to prep and at least know what you need to do
Oh ya R3C1 is a good one. easy start and great ending
the endin is just very tough
Youll get it , just rush terminal and ping hsu asap. Dont want that charger wave stacking. Or just bring HEL Shotgun
Hey guys. Is it feasible to play the earlier levels with just three people?
Yes.
Rundown 1 is very easy
It will increase difficulty very much, but its doable.
You can also just have yourself a bot with bio tracker
Anything awake in 30m radius? He will let you know
^ They scan well and dont alert room by shooting.
Do not participate in stealth or exploration, they just get out of the way
But they will shoot you a lot if you stand in front of them
For everything else they are basically turrets with legs
they r serviceable
Give them Burst Rifle + Machine Gun combo and you're golden
And they're fucking OP on biotracker duty
Compensating for their inability to call what's actually on the screen - they have increased ping radius and decreased ping cooldown
Again: any awake enemy within solid 30 meters will be pinged immediately and you will know his every move
i kind of miss the old loading scream from when the game first released. with the scream. has anyone made a mod/asset swap to bring it back?
You can do every level with just 3 people
yo for the generator mission on the first level how do you put in the safety codes
REACTOR_VERIFY CODE
oof
make em urself ah
cause i think 10c only makes em in conventions n stuff
pro tip, if u already wrote it once, u can press the up key to make it appear again, then u only eliminate the last code and input the new one
Where muh terminal tab complete
does he mean discord servers?
stickers
ion know
well that u make a server that has emotes u make some stickers that's it and nitro
also… where’s r6
in a week
oh
revamp?
are they remaking r6
ah yeah, alt r6, next week
is gonna b cool as hell
revamp=remake/renovate in game terms
cool
wait if they’re alt levels, then where are the “real” levels
ded
sadge
yeh
the og levels where already out and replaced by r7
but well if u want em, mods
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no mods for old rundowns, you just need to download the files
and then rename folders/use custom steam launch argument
well, that, sorry
but you'd still get done in for playing old (or modded) game versions in this server so
only with chu friends
ive been debating playing the old rundowns to see if they're all that like some ppl say
just watch a markiplier video
he only did 1 and 6 though
he has gtfo gameplay
mark only did r1, the rest got died
and a smidge of 2
oh yeah
watch srserpiente- ah that's in spanish nevermind
old rundowns are cool
ALT rundowns are boring because, well, they're ALT rundowns
it's all the same game in ALT and some of the changes are fucking dumb
I'm mostly salty about removing fog repellers/more resources in r4e1 reactor
but then there's also some stuff like less scouts in a couple missions, shadow scouts not spawning in pairs
stamina is there I guess, it's whatever
annoying but I don't care
i thought most people were complaining of the alts for being easy, but that e1 change sounds like it's harder
doesnt R4E1
have more resources now?
+a few fog repellers (but there's boosters for inf res so does it really matter)
-less shadow scouts
-more resources in code zone
-overall stronger loadouts
-fog is easier to see through
oh and general enemy density being lower
no more fucked up rooms with 20 enemies in them, most you'll get is like 5
there's so much that just makes the og funnier/harder
i am a lucky man cause I only started playing this game in alt:r1
new content baybeee!
same here
At what range does high cal pistol one shot scouts in the head
around 20m to front
Both what
maain and extreme
You need to do both if you want to do extreme lots of people have done both
the snatchers multipled
If you have more than one player in the lobby and want to make sure only one spawn everyone but host can leave and rejoin after the command is in
oo
Yeah
Three/four is basically not possible if you don’t know the route/ hammer them for two hours
Or have boosters
I think it was closer to 1h15m but still, fuckin awful
yeah it went from 2 to 4
It was always 4
It is supposed to be 1
But hostcheck isn’t there for events
wasn't it one pre patch?
way back when in june 22
No
I mean you were playing the game optimally
Intermittent play
because that level isn't normal
too many snatchers

is the knife an option or is all the other melee superior
the knife actually holds up surprisingly well for giants

just assume its sarcasm
It isn’t
Its the only melee with a unique feature of bonus damage against enemies currently sleeping. Combined with highest charge speed - you can go on violent killstreaks with it by just rapidly stabbing everything in the head.
Technically you can do that with any weapon except spear though, so its not really like a super feature... Dagger just the one who does it the quickest.
But ask for God if you see anything bigger than a shooter.
yeah combined with the fact that scouts are not technically sleeping, makes it a pretty fun skill based weapon
yeah would be better if it didn’t cast the ray line from lower left tbh
I do like hitting the things I am aiming for instead of having to swing a knife stab just to hit something
ye cool but when are we gonna play your apocalypse campaign?
without any spoilers, are the r6 extension levels meant to be played by tier or after the main levels
in terms of lore and progression
After in terms of lore
Difficulty wise they aren’t harder than D tier
Unless they change them
BX was slightly harder than the other Bs, CX middle of the pack, DX somewhat middle of the pack i guess?
only one harder than the others of the same tiers IMHO are DX and BX, which I consider maybe a tad easier than r6d3 pe
cx extreme felt easier than c3pe and yeah I guess bx was harder than b2 extreme
not looking for difficulty
i mean i don't want to go into bx to see an objective that follows after d4
ah
I guess DX is probably best played after everything else?
Don't really remember the lore parts of BX and CX much
I'm new to this discord, how does one create a channel invite? I posted one i lfg beginners and i don't think i did it right
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
nuh it does seems like u did it right
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
Did I? The link just goes to general 03
oop- didnt notice
u can pick any GTFO vc u see in there that is empty, and copy the link for it
u just right click on it
oh, ok, thanks!
X levels were their own mini campaign story wise
Is there anyway to make ||shadows|| easier to see?
shaow quality in graphics i think
and cool flashlights/thermals
specially thermals
Should it be set to high or low?
high :3


