#gtfo-related-questions

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tardy ingot
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obviously the hud mostly works due to 3rd person, since they designed it that way

lusty bramble
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Dakreva do you remember what the drop text for rxgc eas

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Was

tardy ingot
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which one

lusty bramble
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Did it change per level?

tardy ingot
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technically

hardy grotto
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NO TIME

lusty bramble
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THERES NO TIME

tardy ingot
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they werent 100% consistent

past mesa
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fuck this

tardy ingot
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well, they were for E

lusty bramble
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What was e1s

past mesa
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not doing this cam

hardy grotto
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calm down jish

past mesa
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it is just gonna be bad

tardy ingot
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since only 1 group cleared it

lusty bramble
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Was it your group

tardy ingot
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Yes

lusty bramble
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You're so cool man

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Wish I was rhere..

tardy ingot
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we got auri by chance

tardy ingot
past mesa
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it would better to literally just make a new camera

lusty bramble
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Nvm got carried

tardy ingot
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lusty bramble
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Thank you AURI

past mesa
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wait you got to play with auri

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nice

tardy ingot
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Yea

past mesa
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so the remake was done by a player whos knows the level

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Crazy

lusty bramble
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Is she as cool in rela life as she is online

tardy ingot
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I also helped auri get all the infos

lusty bramble
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Do you remember the drop text for e1

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Djd it say NO TIME

tardy ingot
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i obviously am too stupid to do the actual modding, but most of the info stuff is what i wrote down

lusty bramble
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Did it include the drop text

tardy ingot
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the one that flashes up mid drop?

past mesa
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yeah

tardy ingot
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Iirc all 3 had the same text

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but i only skimmed that because of the time limit

lusty bramble
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THERE WAS NO TIME

hardy grotto
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WE HAVE NO TIME

lusty bramble
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@hardy grotto No tTIME

hardy grotto
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NO TIME

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beep we should duo it

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we have some time

waxen jetty
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"I have to leave in 30 minutes so we can do 1 run" -Gerz

hardy grotto
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TRUE

past mesa
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is this the same gerz that has a normal sleep cycle

hardy grotto
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my sleep cycle is very normal

past mesa
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sure

hardy grotto
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i almost fell asleep in my chair like 30 minutes ago

dry pumice
hardy grotto
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typically i sleep at 2pm

dry pumice
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Worse.

hazy crater
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10pm pajamas and warm milk gang

cold quarry
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^ this mf goes honk mimimimi

dry pumice
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Its 2:AM and i'm like "should i play elden ring right now"

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I have work tomorrow.

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Big brain decisions only.

hazy crater
cold quarry
hazy crater
craggy pier
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Starting to visualise a vintage cartoon
Keep goin guys

icy cave
dry pumice
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#gtfo-related-questions message
Welp, the issue solved itself. I've procrastinated for 30 minutes here, and now it makes no sense to go in. Off i go to attempt to sleep, better luck to the guy that wakes up at 11:AM

craggy pier
craggy pier
hexed nacelle
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how do lfg

craggy pier
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So you Bought thé game

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Welcome Prisoner

hexed nacelle
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is lfg-ing with a voice channel required? i feel like r1a1 would be easy enough to go micless

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or is communication THAT important

craggy pier
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You need to bé in thé VC

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U still Can play micless

craggy pier
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Make sure that everyone in thé lobby IS also on thé vc

civic wave
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if you're good enough you can do whatever without comms

hexed nacelle
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ok

icy cave
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The team decides in the end

arctic marten
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if you post "chimp" in the lore channel you get a special role

civic wave
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if I can do r1a1 solo (no bots, hate that I have to specify this) in under 7 minutes, you can do r1a1 with other people without a vc, etc etc whatever, probably want to make sure you understand the game before doing anything stupid though

hexed nacelle
arctic marten
hexed nacelle
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can people join midgame? or do i have to wait before everybody can get in

civic wave
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people can join mid game, yes

hexed nacelle
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in that case, in i go!

craggy pier
arctic marten
craggy pier
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Ok then FingerGuns

hexed nacelle
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rip i died in my first r1a1 run because i spent a full hour wandering

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turns out, i missed the MAIN DOOR

ocean spindle
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damn
its fine, it happens, specially on first runs

craggy pier
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I sometimes envy new players cuz of the first hand experience

thin musk
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Does anyone deal with lag randomly while running a mission

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Kinda like a sync issue or something. I can’t really think of the specific term to say because I rarely come across it.

proper quiver
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is r2d2 one of the hardest levels

craggy pier
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For an average team yes

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A well seasoned chicken ? Yes

proper quiver
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like top 10 hardest?

thin musk
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Everyone was lagging randomly during it.

craggy pier
urban vale
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?

ocean spindle
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yep

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as long as the setting is in 'Only players' or "Players and bots"

urban vale
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So if it's "Players and Bots" they can join in the middle of the run

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interesting

mossy aurora
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NLO club

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😎

past mesa
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Can we make it a self appointed role

lone mortar
stuck elm
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Damn it jish you keep throwing me off every so often

past mesa
stuck elm
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Mission accomplished so far

past mesa
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What is my rating tho

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S+

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Or still a ways to go

stuck elm
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Probably like a B

past mesa
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Fuck

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BRB gonna go cry for a couple hours

sturdy glen
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didnt parry enough

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blow up your teammates more to steal their style

past mesa
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No you want to know what I am done

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DONE

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I am about to join the police force then go undercover

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And lie to a innocent family for fun

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No

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never mind

craggy pier
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👽

craggy pier
turbid vault
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Since this is the last rundown, are the previous ones going to be made available for new players?
Quite literally just got a friend group down to commit to weekly sessions 😂

tardy ingot
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Rundown 8 will be

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also all old rundowns are currently (or in the case of rundown 6 soon) available and will be in the futute

craggy pier
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its do or die

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devs pls

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🥺

hidden ridge
craggy pier
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they are readding rundowns

lone mortar
icy cave
turbid vault
hidden ridge
lone mortar
hidden ridge
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certanly late for Wilhelm to only notice it now

turbid vault
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Thank you @hidden ridge and @tardy ingot for your responses.

turbid vault
vague bridge
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wheres my r6

craggy pier
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we'll see in few hours

icy cave
vague bridge
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NOO!!!!!

icy cave
vague bridge
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need!!!!

craggy pier
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where

icy cave
icy cave
craggy pier
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mood ruined

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day gone

hidden ridge
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Perhaps because I already finished it, but I dont really get the hype for R6 since it's the easiest of the ones with sectors

vague bridge
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last of the alts

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new content soon

hidden ridge
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Nah dont get me wrong I kind of get it. I was hyped for alt r3 because I never played that

icy cave
vague bridge
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man

hidden ridge
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I think R8 will be sooner but perhaps jan-february

craggy pier
hidden ridge
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they did mention that they'd work on Cyberheist (which will fix everything) after R8

vague bridge
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they definitely had been working on r8 in the background to some extent

icy cave
icy cave
hidden ridge
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Which I assume it already happened

icy cave
hidden ridge
icy cave
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If Dak eventually releases his E1 !

icy cave
hidden ridge
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R2C2 but everything is in fog, no dis packs or stations, and error of shadows, no ammo or tool

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A map that is just a long corridor with spitters

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Tons of nonsensical alarms and cell carrying just to make you lose time and get spitter audio crash

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
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difficulty, agree. Makes sense

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complexity would probably play into the other one

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see r7d1

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im obviously on the edge for what they do with R8

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its gonna be the last rundown and if it isnt at least good it will be a letdown

stuck elm
# hidden ridge I'll make a rundown that's just meme-levels

Can't remember but there was a modded rundown I played where it said onscreen "turn on the fucking lights" or something and shut all lights off. I opened a security door and there was like spawn-cap sleepers in the room blocking the way.

soft crater
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If they touch revolver.
Should it be nerfed? Or Buffed? If so how?

tardy ingot
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neither

soft crater
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Seems so.

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I was asked whether it should be buffed or nerfed for a modded rundown

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But yeah even with base game. I can't see it being buffed/nerfed really

native sun
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Revolver is Balanced. Other guns are a smidge unbalanced and a bit powerful. If you want people to use it more without nerfing other weapons you'd need to buff it.

lusty bramble
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15 damage!! Let it 2 shot chargers!!!

native sun
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I agree with that, swap hel gun and revolver damage

lusty bramble
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High call pistol 🥹

soft crater
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What was the giant stagger threshold again?

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I vaguely recall some people wanting 15 damage Bat

lusty bramble
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15 damage bat 🤤

native sun
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40 for light, 15 for limb break

soft crater
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I see

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Yeah that's right. Because it needs back to break limbs

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Stagger giant limbs

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2 shot chargers

dry pumice
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I'd buff the revolver

soft crater
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Would help revolver when it comes to bigger enemies I guess

dry pumice
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I don't know, doesn't feel good to use

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What the raw damage on it again

soft crater
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It's good right now

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14.21

native sun
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Skill issue just click more heads (/s)

soft crater
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10.53 precision

hardy grotto
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i mean u say /s tru but thats kinda it

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its a gun that rewards headclicking

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the kovaaks weapon

native sun
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Even if it is true saying it would be mean and i am smol nice bean

dry pumice
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I don't like 6 drum revolvers

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I've been utterly spoiled by half life on that front

soft crater
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(Lowkey still can't believe It's becoming a normal weapon for me to take.)

dry pumice
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If it doesn't send my enemy flying then whats the point

soft crater
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Headshot

dry pumice
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They always run out of ammo couple shoots too soon than I feel comfortable with

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The one thing I can praise HELRev on

lusty bramble
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14.51!! Two shot chargers!@

dry pumice
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8 seems to be a solid number

dry pumice
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It got more in common with with PR than I thought...

lusty bramble
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The precision rifle

past star
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The precision rifle

thorny creek
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The precision rifle

ocean spindle
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the rifle precision

hardy grotto
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@lusty bramble what are your thoughts on the effect the Precision Rifle had on the economy?

lusty bramble
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hold on let me find the 10chambers graph again

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not good...

hardy grotto
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this does not bode well...

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maybe cyberheist precision rifle will do better...

soft crater
lusty bramble
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pdw revo ...

soft crater
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You want me to just Double Revo

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Is that it

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But I don't wanna use that all rounder Helrevo

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I don't wanna go back to Hel revo syndrome

turbid horizon
hidden ridge
upper ginkgo
soft crater
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Go back to doing R3D1

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Get that "1st clear"

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Double tap is alright. Not my preference though.

upper ginkgo
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ok im fucking done with r3d1, can't clear it so i'm moving on to r6c3 pe

hardy grotto
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i could hlep you sometime voxy, i'm kind of a professional haha, maybe we could exchange steam names on snapchat?

upper ginkgo
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go away p*b

hardy grotto
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WOAH

soft crater
hardy grotto
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big talk from someone who hasnt beaten r5b4...

lusty bramble
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hope you clear r6c3 soon

topaz anvil
past star
hardy grotto
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that’s why he said soon dumbass

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god

topaz anvil
fringe lagoon
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anybody know what level i can train scout killing

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only finished r1

dry pumice
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Hard sell

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Nothing comes to mind in particular.

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R7B1?

twin hamlet
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Scouts modded rundown malice

fringe lagoon
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fok

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cba to do mods

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i already know ill start abusing them otherwise

fringe lagoon
twin hamlet
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Man has no self control

fringe lagoon
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yer

dry pumice
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You can brute force the 2 Alarms at the start, then you have 2 lonely solo scouts to play with one for each room and then some more in the rooms ahead

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That level is surprisingly rich with scouts for a measly B1

twin hamlet
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R4A3 has one past 1 single door

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just do that

ocean spindle
twin hamlet
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ok

ocean spindle
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... funk

fringe lagoon
twin hamlet
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the team scan door, go right from spawn then north

fringe lagoon
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the only doo is bulkead door

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this the one?

twin hamlet
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Maybe it's R5 lol oops

fringe lagoon
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bruh

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lemme see

ocean spindle
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no, theres another door apart from the bulkhead one in r4a3, is on the right and north

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the bulkhead for sec is on the left

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and then main is all the way to the very right part of the map

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if i remember correctly

fringe lagoon
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yep thats it

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thanks

storm tartan
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Does anyone know if they are going to change the bot logic to be able to pick up objective items during an alarm again? I used to have a lot of fun with bots but it's frustrating now.

craggy pier
hidden ridge
vague bridge
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aimbot+kiting is too much for sure

cold quarry
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better bots with around like...50% of the aim improvement would be nice for basegame

vague bridge
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the base aim is actually fine in my opinion

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the huge blaring issues are friendly fire and no self preservation

dry pumice
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Eh, they could use a slight like 10% buff to averall DPS, will come useful in some of the more tight alarms and situations.

cold quarry
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but no self preservation is absolutely right

ashen frigate
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If I could just change one thing, it is their behavior regarding enemies getting too close

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At least trying to get just a bit of distance and shoot

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Instead of picking up their melee weapon

turbid horizon
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Will all the bots still try and res you?

ashen frigate
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It is all I am asking for

hidden ridge
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I think a bigger part of the equation is whether or not you want 1 guy+3 bots to be able to clear the game without using extreme glitches or stuff like that

craggy pier
turbid horizon
turbid horizon
craggy pier
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with better bots

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without it they go for the res immediately regardless of the situation

turbid horizon
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Ok i was asking ab vanilla

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
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Damn and all of them, still?

hidden ridge
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as in, do you want that to be an option?

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(not being aggressive, legit question)

craggy pier
cold quarry
craggy pier
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if one dies another bot goes for it until they all die

hidden ridge
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cause buff them from vanilla too much and there'll be little reason for a good enough vet not to bring them instead of 3 randos

cold quarry
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so they can actually be helpful on lower levels but not steamroll A tiers

turbid horizon
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i mean for most levels, yes. Obviously you're going to have to put more effort in, but I just want them to play more smart tbh

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not BetterBots smart

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
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where they're auto dodging bullets as they res

craggy pier
turbid horizon
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but just like, to not melee in the middle of combat

craggy pier
turbid horizon
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idk I was watching shift clear my rundown's C1 and they were dodging as they revived

craggy pier
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it an animation but prolly cuz they still take damage

turbid horizon
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I also think bots would be way better if yknow, they weren't bugged

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looking at the heavy carry in combat bug

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before that it was the ladder bug and before that they were shit at scans

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there's also definitely a few enemies that bots should have to establish a safe distance with, imo. looking at chargers/bbc, tanks, and ofc pablo

cold quarry
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bots giving the giant charger The Flouride Stare as it instadowns them

turbid horizon
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just if bots played more sensibly, I think it'd be a lot more fun to use them, and not feel like a task

craggy pier
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too bad 🤷‍♂️

dry pumice
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Sigh, it's hidden

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It doesn't work either.

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Can I have a transcription

tardy ingot
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@dry pumice wdym its hidden???

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you cant see gtfo media?

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did you go into roles and channels and unclick it?

craggy pier
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you need a role to see it?

tardy ingot
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no theres a thing where you can can/need to click on channels/categories to see them

dry pumice
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No, I hid it. So that I don't miss click it and cause it to suck all my phone traffic when I'm not on wifi

tardy ingot
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its a clip about a bot

dry pumice
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I can only get there via links

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Yeah. It doesn't work.

tardy ingot
dry pumice
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I'm slamming play button like Kentaro and it doesn't start.

craggy pier
tardy ingot
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same

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its a decent system if done well

tardy ingot
dry pumice
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Yeah, now it worked.

hazy crater
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Wtf was that

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Super saiyan bishop

dry pumice
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Bots start behaving abnormally when locked out

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Their desire to reach the player interferes with all other of their logistics

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Which probably prevented him from doing the usual bot thing and reaching for his melee when one of the strikers got too close

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He was literally too busy trying to phase through the door to do that

turbid horizon
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Actually he did melee

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You can see and hear it

past mesa
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Sleepers maybe don’t agro on them

tardy ingot
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They did

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he lost hp

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he just killed like 5 in 2 sec

iron coral
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What's the best objective order on R5A2?

ocean spindle
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secondary, main, overload

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but, just cause theres no other way to do it

iron coral
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Ty

ocean spindle
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the game wont let u do anythin if u dont do it on that order

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or u skip sectors :b

iron coral
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Lul aight

whole grove
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How does the infection resist booster's percentage scale with time inside infection? e.g. 96% = 2 minutes before infection starts appearing

worthy trail
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different levels have different infection speeds

craggy pier
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Almost an entire expédition before getting 1%

whole grove
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Appears that 3-4 minutes gets you up to 25% with 96%

dry pumice
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Sounds about right

whole grove
past mesa
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All infection fog is different

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Although 0.3 or something is the most common number

worthy trail
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it's actually overwhelmingly most of the levels, didn't know that

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there are like 3 settings that have number different than 0.0 or 0.03

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basically the only one that'll matter is r3a2 ending

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which has 0.15 infection compared to normal 0.03

cold quarry
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there's an r5 level that has insanely slow infection fog too

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b1 i think?

worthy trail
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probably A3, but that's because you are never fully in the fog

lunar rain
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Just wondering what project thermonuclear is? I saw it in the other tab and wasn’t quiet sure what it was but I like the name

dry pumice
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what

lunar rain
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I think it’s some sort of mod thingy?

worthy trail
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.t modding

uneven gulchBOT
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While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

dry pumice
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No idea, i don't do modding

craggy pier
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Custom rundown

lunar rain
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Ah, kk ty I thought it was some lore thing for the base game since frosty was mentioned in it

craggy pier
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Thé maker of that rundown

lunar rain
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Oh neat

whole grove
tired raft
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Is there any anti-cheat ?.. I just had a super sus rundown no enemies on the entire lvl

cyan wave
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What do they mean by original old Rundowns does that mean the first couple in the game?

cold quarry
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the non-alt versions of 1-6

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old stuff

cyan wave
past mesa
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it says

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alt

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on them

cold quarry
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it'll say ALT:##

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also every rundown except 7 is alt

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you don't have to worry about the original rundown rule at all

cyan wave
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Ok thank you so much

iron coral
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Is there a list of optimal sector orders for each level? The wiki doesn't have any pages for R5

ocean spindle
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usually by, a first run and queryin the keys u can see the order

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tho if u want a specific level u can always ask here, in case ur confused abouts it

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first runs always blind then u know how it is

iron coral
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Yea, I've ran through pretty much all the levels already, going back through for PE. Hate to be constantly asking for help lol

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I'm doing R5A3 rn tho

timber wind
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Excuse me im new to this sever and im trying to get in a match with some people, im by myself

ocean spindle
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hellooo, u can check the LFG channels to find n share lobbies

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.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT
ocean spindle
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just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

past mesa
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is overload then sec

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sec starts errror at some point doesnt turn off

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gl

ocean spindle
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damn no need to spoil it either qwq

past mesa
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it is always error

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you can check on on term in 10 secs

ocean spindle
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tbf, some sectors have hsus and then the objective isnt hsu

past mesa
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no

ocean spindle
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and also idk why u would wanna spoil it by lookin in the terminal

past mesa
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slendi

ocean spindle
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slendo

past mesa
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that is insane

past mesa
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until i find it

ocean spindle
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exactly

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u get me

past mesa
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XD

ocean spindle
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thats how u play, lookin in every room till u find it

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ok no fr i dont like listin zones like before hand, if i have a mission i havent played i wont go list key, list cell, to find if i need some of those

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ill just go in, and if i find a keycard door, then i will query it

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and if i find a sector, well put my pants in go in blind

past mesa
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we drop list key list cell

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list objectives

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list ammo and tool see how much we get

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roughly

ocean spindle
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eh for me thats too borin, i go in just savin up on it
i never liked spoilin myself, just goin in to all the surprises, i only really did it for r7c1 when i was learnin about it, and only cause i died couple times in the GLP part so i wanted to see

past mesa
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it takes

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7 seconds

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if you know how

ocean spindle
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its not that idk how, is that it takes a bit of the fun away

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if im on an error and i know theres a cell that i need, i wanna figure it out in that moment

craggy pier
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Dunno how it takes fun but ok

ocean spindle
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feel the tension, the fear of 'oh god i need this im gonna get fucked'

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instead of 'ah well i already know where it is, idc'

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i practically only use query, and list resources

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or well, res

cold quarry
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sec - ovl - main if you're a gigathad

craggy pier
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Will there ever be lore material?

ocean spindle
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yeh, ALT r6 and R8 have a lot of stuff to answer

craggy pier
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Why prisoners?
Why Underground gigantic labs?
Why several feet below earth?
Where the "things" came from?
Who is the warden?
Who supports the warden and these incursions?

ocean spindle
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well if u want a summary, theres a pinned document in #gtfo-lore

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all those r already answered

iron coral
tardy ingot
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„Will there ever be lore material“

  • the gigantic logs found in a lot of levels AmatsukazePeek
cold quarry
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he left the server lol

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there was no lore material :(

hidden ridge
spare anvil
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With respect to Matchmaking I almost feel it'd be better to just lazily add Steam MM/server browser from the old days than to have a MM search function that just hangs you forever. Especially if they're going to abandon the game now
#community-news message

tardy ingot
hidden ridge
spare anvil
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With respect to blocking joiners, the tried and tested and frankly ancient method of having the ability to set a password for a server beats that front

hidden ridge
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Also it's not like server browser and ingame mm cant work together

spare anvil
#

Yeah it's a "Why not both" discussion rather than either/or

hidden ridge
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as if games didnt already fix that issue by putting passwords on lobbies or whatever

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everytime you mention shit like that I feel like some people think they never existed in the first place

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Are the devs gonna do it? No

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Would it have been something hard to ask? No

tardy ingot
#

It makes it required for any party that doesnt want people to join

Adding a hassle for 1 part of the community to make the other part have a potentially easier time is florkShrug1

Consider that open lobbies might he afks, people that forgot to password lock it or similar

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Obviously it could have been done

hidden ridge
#

bha

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They aren't gonna do it but whatever

tardy ingot
#

If the game was server sided i could see it being more of a logical addon

hidden ridge
#

heck, look at DRG

tardy ingot
#

bha?

hidden ridge
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it has passwords, quick mm and lobby browser

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and I dont think anyone goes "that's too much! I get overwhelmed!"

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
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you get used to it obviously

hidden ridge
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but that was all cs 1.6 had 😛

hidden ridge
spare anvil
#

All these concerns about open/closed lobbies, active/dead lobbies, are better than facing an endless "Searching for matches" circle that leads to a refund when the player can check out the lobbies themselves

hidden ridge
#

how is that more casual than literally putting 4 randos in ingame mm together?

tardy ingot
#

which simply isnt used

tardy ingot
#

a lobby browser wouldve worked out better

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albeit be more work

spare anvil
#

So, at this point there needs to be a warning on the GTFO sale-point page of "REQUIRES DISCORD ACCOUNT AND CLIENT TO PLAY" 😂

tardy ingot
#

but definetly better

tardy ingot
#

Also not the devs fault the community prefers the discord over matchmaking

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it exists (its not that good but still) its just not used

hidden ridge
tardy ingot
#

or should ARK add „REQUIRES UNOFFICIAL SERVERS“

vague bridge
hidden ridge
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If anyone expects fast mm they bought the wrong game

vague bridge
#

unless you're hopping on skype to play gtfo with the boys

hidden ridge
spare anvil
#

I am genuinely trying to not use Discord what with it's onerous terms of service 😅

vague bridge
tardy ingot
#

I can understand the point of discord being the major matchmaker being weird tho

Its often a point people overexaggerate tho (as in „discord is EVIL!)

spare anvil
#

Discord's seed money has run out, they need to generate revenue and growth. They're evil relative to the consumer/average user

hidden ridge
#

let's say all the "CUTIE PIES HELLO" comments in generals are... a bit... weird?

tardy ingot
hidden ridge
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All those servers with pronoun choices 😄

spare anvil
#

Rounding back to the original point, server browser integration is part of the Steam service. There's even a default GUI window for them built into Steam. Pointing back at the "lazy implementation" originating comment, it really is as simple as "Just use what already exists and tack it on as you abandon the game", especially in the context of the Steam reviews and Discussions forum that's littered with "Nobody plays?" "Where are the players?"

tardy ingot
#

how exactly does the „steam server browser“ work tho?

hidden ridge
dry pumice
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I'm surprised thats not a thing even though the early versions did not had amm at all

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When did that appeared? R6?

tardy ingot
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But how will that help the people who legit cant even find the discord?

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i feel like most of them wouldnt know of that and just say „no player!1!!11“ anyhow

tardy ingot
#

it would need to be smth clickable for the people that actively complain about too few players (due to the unused matchmaking)

spare anvil
#

Steam lets you list the servers your players are running to Steams server list. Ingame you have a button that triggers either an ingame server GUI that gets the servers from Steam or you could trigger the Steam overlay and open the server browser from the same button which is a jankier but cheaper way of doing it.

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You don't even have to load the game to see the active servers. In the Steam client select View then Game Servers to browse all servers, the API is queryable publicly so you can also have web-browser that shows what's active
https://www.steamserverbrowser.com/

tardy ingot
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Ah so those

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i used that for ark a bunch

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since im semi tech illiterate

Would that work with gtfo being peer to peer?

hidden ridge
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so I guess it aint impossible?

spare anvil
#

Yes, there's differing levels of jank depending on precicely how they handled the netcode but it can be done and it should be a sufficient crutch if the planned final Matchmaking update doesn't quite cut the mustard

tardy ingot
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final matchmaking update

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O.o?

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i dont think matchmaking will get an update

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and i dont think it would even do anything

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The community that is active outside of their friend groups is already mostly set on using discord

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people just dont change what they use if they can avoid it

spare anvil
#

They said in their "We're leaving soon" message that they were looking at fixing Matchmaking
#community-news message

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Arguably since they're stating they require 3rd party EULAs on their Steam sale page they should add a line beneath for "Discord EULA/TOS"

soft crater
tardy ingot
spare anvil
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Huh oh yeah, I guess I must have somehow thought they were gonna fix MM. Guess I was mistaken. Wow, that's not better

tardy ingot
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Honestly they cant rly „fix“ it

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they can obviously fix its bugs and make it better

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a matchmaking can be perfect, but if it isnt used then its still useless

spare anvil
#

Arguably, players should be able to join rundowns they haven't unlocked if they're joining a server via MM. I'm in a state where obviously I'll never find servers or people wanting to play R1 and that's what I'm seeing in the forums and reviews

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Active player counter, active servers counter, rundown-player-distribution stats showing who's playing what, or at least functional bots would account for the limitations of the current multiplayer system

tardy ingot
#

And bots are easily good enough to do all of r1, nearly all of r2, all of r3 etc

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Also regarding being able to join not unlocked levels

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that comes with the issue of absolutely ruining the experience of the other players if joining missions above the players skill lvl

hidden ridge
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I kind of cringe when people ask for other beginners then they whine they find noone

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"I cant find people to finish map X" "I can help" "No, I dont want to get carried"

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Which is praiseworthy but eh

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Kinda moves the issue from "Cant find people" to "Cant find people I like"

soft crater
hardy grotto
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Pdw revo…

tardy ingot
#

Agree

Then theres still a difference between being a newbie who doesnt wanna be carried and a nexperienced player who doesnt want a newbie to troll him in a hard mission

hardy grotto
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wasn’t there someone very recently saying they didn’t want to play with experienced players cause they’ll just speedrun the level

civic wave
#

yes

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I think they were doing r1a1, was kinda tempted to join and just do nothing

hardy grotto
#

I mean that’s how i play pubs

civic wave
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yeah, you just watch them go

hardy grotto
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i tab out

civic wave
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was kinda tempted to join and do that, and yes i know you tab out Gerz

hardy grotto
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Sigma gtfo playstyle

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Tab out all the time…

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die to hybrid…

civic wave
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let them do everything, let them fuck up, kite enemies around to around damage or whatever while they're kicking and screaming and dying

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and then clean up and res them

tardy ingot
#

I basically do what wesley said

I clear myself a path to where we need to be, grab a pack then afk there til they arrive

civic wave
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let them get punished but keep the run going or something

icy cave
tardy ingot
#

If its actually beginners then i just wait n chill behind them

civic wave
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not that I play pubs, let alone ones with new players, but

hardy grotto
#

Wesley the solo player…

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Doesn’t support his team with autopistol

civic wave
#

the machine pistol menace, shark simp supreme

icy cave
hidden ridge
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I'm trying better bots

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It's hilarious

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They're basically killing machines

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Fuck at this point I started being the one carrying the baby anyway

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they just maul through shit

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and dauda was not getting hit while carrying the baby for some reason

tardy ingot
#

But but, its how bots should be!

hidden ridge
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😄

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Dauda had like 5 strikers chasing him

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but he wasn't losing hp

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r3d1 ftr

dry pumice
#

We should rename the mod into "GTFO for socially inept"

icy cave
icy cave
hidden ridge
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I've never bothered to check the vanilla bots

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but those headshot with Veruta from 25meters

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maybe they can do even more

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And they're just so good at ammo preservation

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well that's granted

civic wave
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I should bring back that username, huh

hidden ridge
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They basically soloed pmom

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I hit it like 4-6 times with shotty they did the rest

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perhaps if I didnt chase her they wouldn't have shot her

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I want to see what I can get away with now

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Let me try r3b1 doing nothing other than standing in the scans

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I'll try to wake up all the room then just juggle until an alarm happens

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There's something seriously wrong with how little damage they take

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bishop lost 24% hp and that's it

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I never shot a bullet nor hammered I just kited and shoved

turbid horizon
#

Someone doubted me last night but i swear they perfect dodge most attacks

hidden ridge
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they're on 20/30% ammo each it's so absurd

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I legit did nothing but run into rooms and trigger them

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I think it's a combination of things

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like I see enemies try to go for me

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and not them, usually

turbid horizon
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yeah it’s a bit ridiculous. There’s definitely something causing them to take less hits other than the fact that they aren’t meleeing anymore

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
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Makes sense

hidden ridge
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no it's

turbid horizon
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Getting damaged during pings

hidden ridge
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I basically went afk while typing

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they finished the horde

turbid horizon
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Yeah lol better bots moment

hidden ridge
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They're FINALLY finishing ammo

turbid horizon
#

How far are you in B1?

hidden ridge
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after 2 alarms and all the scouts I could trigger

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yes

turbid horizon
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Ah

hidden ridge
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just did the class 5 for the warden door

turbid horizon
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bruh

hidden ridge
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never used a tool

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neither I nor them exclusing biotracker

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I didnt shoot an enemy and woke up ALL the rooms I could

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by entering and hel revolving the air

turbid horizon
#

[BOT] Bishop R4E1 carry when?

hidden ridge
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"My motion scanner says you fellas are about to die"

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I think he's talking to the sleepers now

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let me give them ammo I want to see if I can do a run where I just shove

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fuck it's Omaha beach levels of meatgrinding

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It's fantastic I wake up a scout, sit in angle, watch as the magic happens

ashen frigate
iron coral
#

Honestly, Payday 2's style of matchmaking would have been perfect for GTFO

hidden ridge
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They dont stand in the extraction scan lel

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
#

Ok now the real test

hidden ridge
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I did r3b1 waking everything up, never using any tool (nor me nor them save for bioscanner) and never doing anything other than shove and run

turbid horizon
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Because bots can burst cancel

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We give them burst cannons

tardy ingot
celest onyx
#

Hey guys! Kinda new to the game. I noticed there is a slider for mouse sens in game but also another one for mouse aim mode. Having "1.00" in this slider means that I have the same mouse sens for both? Like in "1.00" as 1 for 1?

past star
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Mouse aim: when aiming down sights
Mouse: mouse (anytime not ads)

celest onyx
past star
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Just set them the same?

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I’m confused

celest onyx
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sometimes it's not that easy

past star
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It is in this game

celest onyx
#

yea?

past star
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Yea

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I think so. Idk I’m in class not on the game rn so I can’t fully confirm

celest onyx
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what's confusing me is that it's not called zoom sens. It's called mouse aim mode sens scale

past star
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But mine are both set at like .5 and I use 2000dpi and if feels same sens ads and not ads

celest onyx
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like usually, scaling would be 1 for 1 as 1.00 in the slider. Default is 0.5.

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okok

lusty bramble
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There isn't a relative fov based sensitivity so scopes will feel different based on how they zoom

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Weapons without scope are pretty 1:1 except for the little zoom they have

celest onyx
#

Ok thanks guys

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Alright so I decided to go in training mode and tried it with the 360 method. Turns out I was right. 1.00 (max in the slider) means 1:1. Same distance was done in hipfire and ads.

olive robin
#

How much foam does it take to freeze a scout without alerting? Do I need a full charge or

past mesa
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5 Blobs

olive robin
past mesa
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No

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C foam blob is not a hard alert

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You can tap it on them and be fine

civic wave
#

If you hit them while foamed they'll wake though

olive robin
#

Enemies just do not care about foam I guess

civic wave
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Yep

vague bridge
#

do bots experience recoil

cold quarry
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no

vague bridge
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oh cool

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so burst cannon is entirely the best weapon for them

ocean spindle
#

cof cof

dry pumice
iron coral
# spare anvil How does that work?

Payday 2 has CrimeNet, and it shows lobbies/games in progress. Which I think would have worked better for GTFO rather than the "select a level and hope to god someone else is matchmaking for it too"

cold quarry
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a simple game browser you could sort by rundown/etc would be nice

solemn sorrel
#

Help me understand - who is using the burst cannon and what on God's green earth is the use-case

ocean spindle
#

hello
well burst cannon has insane amounts of damage, 95 with its 5 bullets, which means it can take big enemies on a single burst on the back, and do serious damage to other enemies which are probably spoilers

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plus, unlike the sniper, you can spray it at a wave and still kill a few enemies w/o it veing overkill, since it will leave the enemy u hit with a single bullet at very low health, which means potential double kills in a single burst

civic wave
#

good giant and boss killer but unwieldy

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cool for going a bit faster

ocean spindle
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yeah problem is it has a lot of recoil, but still a lot of dmg w/o needin headshots

solemn sorrel
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Small ammo pool tells me even in those scenarios you'd be better off with something more ammo efficient

civic wave
#

most people just use something like choke mod though which has a greater ease of use

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65 total ammo/13 bursts isn't terrible at all

solemn sorrel
#

Yeah it seems like you can use it but there's probably a better tool

ocean spindle
#

it is not a bad weapon to go for, but if u simply like others more, its fine

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its a lot of heavy dmg and its useful on various situations

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but a sniper at the end has more dmg on headshots and more range, even if it is more niche and case-specific

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and- not super useful always

civic wave
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mid range boss damage (along with choke mod), and high boss dps (along with choke mod/reg shotgun)

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niche but strong if you can use it, really, otherwise just take a shotgun of some kind or sniper

ocean spindle
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some kind- theres only one wuh

solemn sorrel
#

What are thoughts on special revolver vs hidmg pistol

ocean spindle
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am i forgettin one

solemn sorrel
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Revolver seems nice initially with high ammo supply but in practice I've found it's difficult to quickly deal damage in waves

civic wave
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revolver is good, high cal I'd say is more niche, but easier to use

ocean spindle
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revo is a more difficult but rewardin high cal
revo needs headshots to be efficient, it eliminates smol enemies on a single shot, it reloads very fast, and with good aim u can do a lot with it, specially with reload cancellin
high cal is just more dmg, but a slower weapon, eliminates strikers with a bodyshot, shooters with a headshot and in general is, easier to use, tho has less ammo and stuff

civic wave
#

revolver can decimate waves if you can hit heads

ocean spindle
#

from, what i remember

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how much ammo did revo had?

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im gonna search

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52
so yeah revo has, more ammo than a high cal, but a higher skill ceiling too

civic wave
#

I think it's like 54 total or something

ocean spindle
#

hey close

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:3

soft crater
#

Revo gets 18 bullets per refill

solemn sorrel
ocean spindle
#

solace does in fact know the amount of bullets per refill the revo gets

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amazin

soft crater
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High cal gets 12

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11.68

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But it's rounded up

ocean spindle
#

thank u

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very AMMOPACK_284 of u

past mesa
#

On some you get 12 on some you get 11

halcyon mango
#

I think the 0.xx part gets retained, but the display value is truncated, so you'll see 12 or 11 depending on whether the decimals add up to another bullet, but you're still getting the same amount per refill.

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90/bullet cost according to the datamine spreadsheet

past mesa
#

Sometimes you get two sometimes you get one

halcyon mango
#

but you're technically still getting the same per refill yeah

past mesa
#

Yup

halcyon mango
#

just that it's not enough partial to hit another threshold

cold quarry
#

High cal also has some utility against giants whereas revolver does not

past mesa
#

Rev can kill single giants

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Tap head then unload back

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Pretty quick

cold quarry
#

High cal can get two that way though

solemn sorrel
#

Rev can pop heads but in practice my aim isn't on lock often enough for waves

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I do like it, feels like a great backup for most weapons but if I'm using it during waves I find I deal more damage (effectively) with my main

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Skillissue.jpg

past mesa
#

Yeah

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That can happen but tbh

halcyon mango
#

yeah, all depends on your aim and how the enemies are moving.
when a bunch of things are charging you, taking your time to aim wouldn't do you much good
but in the right situations, you can pop a small horde rapidly while maintaining ridiculous ammo efficiency with fast reload.

past mesa
#

We can’t always consider skill issues when evaluating guns

halcyon mango
#

with a team, you don't always have to shoot everything, and can focus on getting the easy shots to maximize your efficiency

upper ginkgo
#

i love alt-tabbing out of gtfo while my 3 other teammates shoot the s1 scan for me

lunar rain
#

how hard is r2e1? for people with less than 70 hours in the game and havent played it in 4 plus months

civic wave
lunar rain
civic wave
#

R2E1 one of the harder missions in the game, final half is particularly nasty

ocean spindle
#

um probs, unbeatable until practice

civic wave
#

Good luck!

ocean spindle
#

but u can get, past the first few alarms i guess

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with, many tries

sterile citrus
#

Ya R2E1 is definitley hard once you get about 1/2 way in

civic wave
lunar rain
#

i have gotten to the first scan on the way to extraction and it doesnt seem to hard, except people need to know that they dont need to worry about the infection fog

halcyon mango
lunar rain
#

r3c1 it is then

#

ty for the help

sterile citrus
#

Oh ya R3C1 is a good one. easy start and great ending

lunar rain
#

i cant beat it for some reason

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i think its just a skill issue

ocean spindle
#

the endin is just very tough

sterile citrus
#

Youll get it , just rush terminal and ping hsu asap. Dont want that charger wave stacking. Or just bring HEL Shotgun

turbid vault
#

Hey guys. Is it feasible to play the earlier levels with just three people?

dry pumice
#

Rundown 1 is very easy

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It will increase difficulty very much, but its doable.

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You can also just have yourself a bot with bio tracker

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Anything awake in 30m radius? He will let you know

turbid vault
#

Ah that's a good idea thank you.

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How are the bots BTW?

dry pumice
#

Generally crap

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Not the brightest

sterile citrus
#

^ They scan well and dont alert room by shooting.

dry pumice
#

Do not participate in stealth or exploration, they just get out of the way

sterile citrus
#

But they will shoot you a lot if you stand in front of them

dry pumice
#

For everything else they are basically turrets with legs

ocean spindle
#

they r serviceable

dry pumice
#

Give them Burst Rifle + Machine Gun combo and you're golden

#

And they're fucking OP on biotracker duty

#

Compensating for their inability to call what's actually on the screen - they have increased ping radius and decreased ping cooldown

#

Again: any awake enemy within solid 30 meters will be pinged immediately and you will know his every move

bronze trail
#

i kind of miss the old loading scream from when the game first released. with the scream. has anyone made a mod/asset swap to bring it back?

icy cave
soft crater
#

Curious

#

Does anyone know where I would be able to obtain GTFO Stickers?

prisma temple
#

yo for the generator mission on the first level how do you put in the safety codes

prisma temple
#

oof

ocean spindle
#

cause i think 10c only makes em in conventions n stuff

ocean spindle
# prisma temple oof

pro tip, if u already wrote it once, u can press the up key to make it appear again, then u only eliminate the last code and input the new one

halcyon mango
#

Where muh terminal tab complete

craggy pier
#

stickers

ocean spindle
#

ah

#

i thought irl

craggy pier
#

ion know

ocean spindle
#

well that u make a server that has emotes u make some stickers that's it and nitro

craggy pier
#

also… where’s r6

ocean spindle
#

in a week

craggy pier
#

oh

ocean spindle
#

thursday

#

specifically

craggy pier
#

revamp?

ocean spindle
#

sorry?

#

i don't know that term

craggy pier
#

are they remaking r6

ocean spindle
#

ah yeah, alt r6, next week
is gonna b cool as hell

craggy pier
#

revamp=remake/renovate in game terms

craggy pier
#

wait if they’re alt levels, then where are the “real” levels

cold quarry
#

ded

craggy pier
#

sadge

ocean spindle
#

yeh

#

the og levels where already out and replaced by r7

#

but well if u want em, mods

craggy pier
#

you can mod gtfo?

#

hang on

fierce walrus
#

.t mod

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.t modding

uneven gulchBOT
#

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

civic wave
#

no mods for old rundowns, you just need to download the files

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and then rename folders/use custom steam launch argument

ocean spindle
#

well, that, sorry

civic wave
#

but you'd still get done in for playing old (or modded) game versions in this server so

ocean spindle
#

only with chu friends

craggy pier
#

well i’m not feeling like playing them

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i was just curious about them

cold quarry
#

ive been debating playing the old rundowns to see if they're all that like some ppl say

ocean spindle
#

ah fairs

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i mean with the rebalance n stuff u will find it funky

cold quarry
#

he only did 1 and 6 though

craggy pier
#

he has gtfo gameplay

ocean spindle
#

mark only did r1, the rest got died

cold quarry
#

and a smidge of 2

craggy pier
ocean spindle
#

watch srserpiente- ah that's in spanish nevermind

craggy pier
#

yeah i never saw him go against the big flyer

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*markiplier

ocean spindle
#

only did the story missions

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[and c3]

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[main]

civic wave
#

old rundowns are cool

#

ALT rundowns are boring because, well, they're ALT rundowns

#

it's all the same game in ALT and some of the changes are fucking dumb

fierce walrus
#

atleast for new people its not boring

#

since its all new missions for them

sturdy glen
#

what changes are dumb

#

if you say stamina im gonna laugh really hard

civic wave
#

I'm mostly salty about removing fog repellers/more resources in r4e1 reactor

#

but then there's also some stuff like less scouts in a couple missions, shadow scouts not spawning in pairs

#

stamina is there I guess, it's whatever

#

annoying but I don't care

ocean spindle
#

i thought most people were complaining of the alts for being easy, but that e1 change sounds like it's harder

fierce walrus
#

doesnt R4E1 secondary have more resources now?

civic wave
#

+a few fog repellers (but there's boosters for inf res so does it really matter)
-less shadow scouts
-more resources in code zone
-overall stronger loadouts
-fog is easier to see through

#

oh and general enemy density being lower

#

no more fucked up rooms with 20 enemies in them, most you'll get is like 5

#

there's so much that just makes the og funnier/harder

cold quarry
#

new content baybeee!

vague bridge
#

same here

left gust
#

At what range does high cal pistol one shot scouts in the head

sturdy glen
#

around 20m to front

spare yacht
#

waassup yall

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anyone did both on r7d1

past mesa
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Both what

spare yacht
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maain and extreme

fierce walrus
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if your game bugged on it

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then yes that happens a lot

past mesa
spare yacht
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the snatchers multipled

past mesa
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Yeah

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It is a know issue

past mesa
spare yacht
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oo

past mesa
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Yeah

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Three/four is basically not possible if you don’t know the route/ hammer them for two hours

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Or have boosters

civic wave
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I think it was closer to 1h15m but still, fuckin awful

spare yacht
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yeah it went from 2 to 4

past mesa
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It is supposed to be 1

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But hostcheck isn’t there for events

turbid horizon
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way back when in june 22

past mesa
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No

turbid horizon
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no?

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i seem to remember it not breaking then

past mesa
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Prepatch no one did it legit

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They would just terminal command at extract

turbid horizon
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oh yeah that

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I definitely never did that

past mesa
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I mean you were playing the game optimally

turbid horizon
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tbf i want to beat it normally

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but I can't

past mesa
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Intermittent play

turbid horizon
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because that level isn't normal

past mesa
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XD

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It is a big level

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Lots going on

spare yacht
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too many snatchers

past star
green idol
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is the knife an option or is all the other melee superior

craggy pier
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u can use knife its good only for small enemies

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but hammer is the best

vague bridge
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the knife actually holds up surprisingly well for giants

craggy pier
sturdy glen
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just assume its sarcasm

past mesa
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It isn’t

dry pumice
# green idol is the knife an option or is all the other melee superior

Its the only melee with a unique feature of bonus damage against enemies currently sleeping. Combined with highest charge speed - you can go on violent killstreaks with it by just rapidly stabbing everything in the head.
Technically you can do that with any weapon except spear though, so its not really like a super feature... Dagger just the one who does it the quickest.
But ask for God if you see anything bigger than a shooter.

turbid horizon
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yeah combined with the fact that scouts are not technically sleeping, makes it a pretty fun skill based weapon

past mesa
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I do like hitting the things I am aiming for instead of having to swing a knife stab just to hit something

verbal zinc
vague bridge
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without any spoilers, are the r6 extension levels meant to be played by tier or after the main levels

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in terms of lore and progression

turbid horizon
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Difficulty wise they aren’t harder than D tier

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Unless they change them

tardy ingot
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BX was slightly harder than the other Bs, CX middle of the pack, DX somewhat middle of the pack i guess?

turbid horizon
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Actually yeah I’ll go with that

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I beat D2 twice but never beat DX

hidden ridge
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cx extreme felt easier than c3pe and yeah I guess bx was harder than b2 extreme

vague bridge
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not looking for difficulty

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i mean i don't want to go into bx to see an objective that follows after d4

hidden ridge
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I guess DX is probably best played after everything else?

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Don't really remember the lore parts of BX and CX much

pine saffron
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I'm new to this discord, how does one create a channel invite? I posted one i lfg beginners and i don't think i did it right

uneven gulchBOT
ocean spindle
pine saffron
ocean spindle
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oop- didnt notice
u can pick any GTFO vc u see in there that is empty, and copy the link for it

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u just right click on it

pine saffron
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oh, ok, thanks!

icy cave
lunar rain
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Is there anyway to make ||shadows|| easier to see?

ocean spindle
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shaow quality in graphics i think

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and cool flashlights/thermals

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specially thermals

lunar rain
civic wave
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good monitor, shadow resolution/quality settings

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other than that, skill issue

ocean spindle