gtfo-related-questions

[lone mortar]

Door is there

[craggy pier]

and a bat

[craggy pier]

no i mean the open door

[lone mortar]

Hel revolver and combat shotgun?

[craggy pier]

yes

[lone mortar]

Its only the room

There’s literally nothing that can alert the 2nd room

[craggy pier]

alright..

[latent obsidian]

If you shoot from as far from the open sec door as possible then its less likely things will hear you there

if they are 30m or closer they will wake up

[lone mortar]

25m and the they dont even aggro

Even when dmged

[latent obsidian]

not sure about that last one

and pretty sure its 30m

[lone mortar]

Nah

Asked mushroom a while back

He said 25

[latent obsidian]

I don't know who that is

[craggy pier]

im dead

the other room woke up you dick

[latent obsidian]

But everyone I've spoken to here has said 30

[lone mortar]

But utilities the security door as well

[craggy pier]

whyy

[past mesa]

30 is correct

50 30 10

[craggy pier]

you baited me

[lone mortar]

Could have been that (R7D2 maybe)

[lone mortar]

Is it 30?

[lone mortar]

You never send a map layout

[craggy pier]

at this point i think i just need to avoid that area of the map

[latent obsidian]

how can you say nothing is gonna wake up if you don't know the map layout 😕

[craggy pier]

or i should use the knife so i can get that stupid lock

[latent obsidian]

Maybe just shoot the whole zone up from the start

giants are slow and not very threatening if you are prepared

[craggy pier]

maybe it's a good idea to bring a sniper?

but then i need to 100% rely on my primary for swarms

[latent obsidian]

Sniper would be excellent for dealing with them but not necessary

would make the alarms harder as you say

anything is fine as long as you get behind cover when you are reloading and can't stagger them

[fierce walrus]

you can also skip the giant zone?

[raven owl]

You could also just get lucky and not have the giant spawn there

[craggy pier]

it happened twice in a row

[fierce walrus]

if that zone is yout major roadblock just go to the other ones

[craggy pier]

yeah

can i stealth kill a giant with a bat?

[fierce walrus]

technically yes

[craggy pier]

the wiki says i can keep them staggered forever

[fierce walrus]

yes

but it is risky

[craggy pier]

what aspect of it is risky

[fierce walrus]

getting slapped

if you mistime stagger

and the giant hits you/screams

[craggy pier]

once it hits it screams?

[fierce walrus]

no

it either attacks or screams

if it hits you thats a problem

if it screams its also a problem

[craggy pier]

so how do you kill it

[fierce walrus]

time your hits

[craggy pier]

full charge or 75% or what's the strat

[fierce walrus]

so you wanna go for full charges most of the time

unless you see that its no longer staggered

then you just hit him so he gets staggered again

(cause bat always staggers)

[craggy pier]

how much do you need to charge for it to stagger him

wait if it always staggers can't i just.. spam

who cares about timing just keep hitting the guy

or do like small charges

[fierce walrus]

well regular taps will light stagger it

and you will run out of stamina

[craggy pier]

oh you're right stamina

[fierce walrus]

so i wouldnt risk it

[craggy pier]

gonna try this out

sounds simpler than the hammer

[fierce walrus]

hammer kills it way faster

but yeah it is harder to screw up with bat

[craggy pier]

fantastic

[fierce walrus]

also

when starting it make sure to go for back of head for maximum damage at the beginning

and then go for back so you get slightly more damage

[craggy pier]

yeah

if this actually works

[fierce walrus]

you are doing R1B1 right?

[craggy pier]

yeah

i know i don't need to kill them

but it would help

[craggy pier]

HOLY SHIT I FOUND A LOCK MELTER AHAHAHA

[fierce walrus]

yay

[craggy pier]

shmelters 💦

[fierce walrus]

like i said before, you can just skip the giant zone and go to the other ones

[craggy pier]

this is probably the run

i also have a mine

[fierce walrus]

well good luck

[craggy pier]

does the bat require back of head for scouts

[crude mauve]

Could I get any tips for R4D1?

[fierce walrus]

yes

[craggy pier]

2 burst 1 sniper bio 1 sniper facing the longest side of the bridge burst behind

[crude mauve]

thanks a lot

[craggy pier]

[hazy crater]

Tissues

[craggy pier]

Is there a final big endless swarm in every mission or only some of them

Once you've completed the level

Or main objective i mean

I have 11 IDs

[civic wave]

only some missions

[raven owl]

Only some missions

R1B1 is a silent extraction

[civic wave]

and no alarm triggers from completing the objective

[craggy pier]

wooooooooohoooooo

r1a1 r1b2 r1c1 r1d1

i wonder why its only some missions

[vague bridge]

is r5c2 extraction silent

we never figured out because we kinda woke a guy up

[civic wave]

my guy have you seen what is in that room, why would it be a loud extract

[vague bridge]

its more scary than it is difficult

because of how quickly the extraction actually is

[fierce walrus]

most likely some security protocol that is triggered us attempting to extract

[hazy crater]

It’s fun having error alarms at the end of some levels

Like NICE we scanned the HSU sample here’s the error alarm go run

🏃

[raven owl]

The GTFO feeling...

[hazy crater]

Some times it catches me off guard

Like yeah it’s probably a good idea to do the warden door alarm before finishing the objectives but sometimes you don’t and you’re doing a level five scatter alarm while an error is going on

[craggy pier]

whoopsies

[dusky gorge]

i was playing with some beginner players yesterday trying to teach them the basics but we were encountering really hard enemies in R1B1 (which i think is one of the easier levels), does difficulty progress with more players? I didnt think so but i find it odd we encountered a birther and a snatcher in the first room of R1B1

[ocean spindle]

um someone in ur lobby was hackin

[dusky gorge]

if not im sure something happened with our server because we kept dying and getting revived

damnn

[ocean spindle]

yeah, if u like maybs know who it was, cause they were silent or somethin
report em to @uneven gulch

with all the details

[dusky gorge]

alr thank you!

[raven owl]

I've seen some people use flash lights in a way that seemed strategic. Is there actually some strategy behind using flashlights to clear a room?

[craggy pier]

not much really but u can flash a sleeper to force him to click so u can kill something afterward

[topaz anvil]

Use them to quickly sync up a group for easier movement

[craggy pier]

or flash something nearby and kill a sleeper to force that first sleeper to wake up and kill that as well

[past mesa]

YES forced long range agro

[raven owl]

Why would you do this though?

[past mesa]

In Uber packed rooms the only safe kills become double kills when solo.

[minor fractal]

Faster, safer, more convenient.

[raven owl]

Interesting

I'll take that into consideration the next time I play. Thanks

[past mesa]

I mean

You have to practice this one

You have to bump sleepers to make it consistent

[raven owl]

Lol

[soft crater]

You do that but then a teammate starts sprinting in

[raven owl]

Yeah...

[soft crater]

This happens to me whenever I commit a sprint jump

Just outside of sleeper radius at its lowest.

Not ethical really and something I shouldn't make a habit of

[raven owl]

Does walking produce the same noise level as crouch walking?

[topaz anvil]

It's louder so to speak

[raven owl]

But does that matter as long as you stop right before they awake?

[topaz anvil]

no

[tardy ingot]

btw, does anyone know levels where you can potentially soft lock (without desync or it happening due to a missing spawned item?)

i got r4b1 for main and r4a2 for secondary

[topaz anvil]

r5b3 secondary maybe with the props you could get stuck inside in the original

[tardy ingot]

oh i shouldve clarified

level gets impossible to beat for that
not a player getting stuck

since players that are stuck could just leave (and if needed rejoin)

[topaz anvil]

if you are solo you cant

[tardy ingot]

with that you could still just have someone join and spawn in

i mean situations that cant be cleared anymore basically

[mossy aurora]

Are you counting tile soft locks as well?

[tardy ingot]

tile soft locks?

[past mesa]

Jump inbetween things and get stuck

[tardy ingot]

since those players could always theoretically leave i think excluding it makes more sense than including

i semi added r4d2 btw (if you get double bulkhead scan you can soft lock extreme lol)

[past mesa]

R5a3

[tardy ingot]

How

[past mesa]

Take overload cell to main and plug it in

Or bulkhead key doesn’t spawn

[past mesa]

R2b4 key spawn in ungetqble locker

Few levels like that

R4c3 cell doesn’t spawn

[craggy pier]

How the fuck do we beat R7C1 Class S alarm

[tardy ingot]

not stuff that is inherently soft locked jish.
Stuff that you have to personally soft lock

[craggy pier]

😭

[tardy ingot]

Gotta check the cell thing tho

[tardy ingot]

the one where you can lower the fog for?

[craggy pier]

Yeah

[tardy ingot]

Do you know how spawn rules work for alarms?

[craggy pier]

By the time we lower the fog, and get back to the alarm, we're out of resources

No i do not

How does the spawn rules work?

[tardy ingot]

The zone for the alarm itself and the fog lowering zone have ressources :|

the general rule is 2 rooms away (your room being room 0)

[craggy pier]

That's where they will spawn?

[tardy ingot]

specific advice for that alarm. Mine the doors they spawn behind (no random mines in the open)
Then place 2 sentries (preferably burst or sniper) on the path they take in the actual alarm room

[tardy ingot]

thats their potential spawn points generally (theres exceptions)

[craggy pier]

Ill give it a shot later thanks

[hazy crater]

Pooping at work

Can’t wait to play gtfo tonight

[halcyon mango]

what's with some precision multipliers being < 1

decrease headshot dmg?

[turbid horizon]

kind of

it multiplies that with the headshot modifier

So .77 x 2

Just so some weapons do less/more damage on a headshot, they’ll never do less damage on head than on body

[tardy ingot]

its simply for breakpoints

[soft crater]

I often forget Daky multiplies the Precision multi against the weakpoint multi rather than the dmg

[eternal bridge]

Unless somehow the room has its weird designs and one room ended up being counted as 1

As in 0 and 1

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[turbid horizon]

:3

[eternal bridge]

Some room designs creates odd sound barriers which in turn is counted as an additional room

[turbid horizon]

I’m cool and quirky like that

[eternal bridge]

Despite the room being “seen” as 1 room on the map

[tardy ingot]

thats not weird room designs

thats just open room dividers

[halcyon mango]

makes more sense honestly

[tardy ingot]

which basically always haev room signs

[eternal bridge]

Always have room signs?

How?

[soft crater]

Daky is the only one I've seen do the math that way

[turbid horizon]

It helps me see that the damage isn’t actually being lowered

[eternal bridge]

Is it possible to see that visually?

[soft crater]

Wiki also states precision damages after the multiplier

[tardy ingot]

look at walls

:I

[eternal bridge]

😐

[soft crater]

Hel rifle for example.
Base bullet damage 30 x precision multi 0.73 = 21.9 applies to all precision shots

Daky's requires you to get the head multi of Individual enemies

It changes the enemies head multi to like 1.095

Giant 1.5x head x hel rifles precision 0.73x = 1.095

Vs 21.9 x 1.5x

[tardy ingot]

i still prefer explaining it with precision multi x head multies

cuz sometimes beginners ask why it does less dmg

which the dmg to precision doesnt explain

[halcyon mango]

I'd rather do 30 x (1.5 x 0.73) than (30 x 0.73) x 1.5

of course headshot multi being non-standard across enemies is pain

[soft crater]

It makes sense but it gets more complicated

[craggy pier]

is there a method to kill big shooters stealthily

[halcyon mango]

inconsistent

[soft crater]

4 hammer full charge back

[halcyon mango]

with whether they scream or not iirc

[soft crater]

Not really

[halcyon mango]

oh I was talkin about solo

[craggy pier]

you can't break limbs off n stuff right

to stagger it

[soft crater]

You can.

You would want to actually

Limb stagger is a bit longer than just a damage stagger

[tardy ingot]

eh, simply give it an occi full charge with hammer. then you only need 2 more hits to the back or 1 more to the occi

chickens are so harmless

[soft crater]

gets hit by all 3 projectiles

[craggy pier]

okay

so wait you can stagger a chicken with limb hits?

[soft crater]

All giant variants yes.

Charger giants ofc being the hardest.

Idk about stealthing tho

[halcyon mango]

oh yeah, why was r6 easier than other rundowns. good guns, lack of enemies, or?

[lone mortar]

checkpoints

[past mesa]

Checkpoints + no optional objective spam

+shorter levels

[halcyon mango]

makes sense

[tardy ingot]

"easier than other rundowns" is very general statement

R6 is harder than R1 and R3

[halcyon mango]

oh

[tardy ingot]

while being around the same general difficulty as R2

[past mesa]

Yeah pretty accurate

[tardy ingot]

checkpoints are basically not considered for difficulty (same for boosters)

[halcyon mango]

from what I heard it sounded like a steep drop from r5

[past mesa]

It is! But that is mainly because r5 has some of the worst designed levels in the game

Same as r4

[halcyon mango]

so you are massochistic for doing r4e1

[soft crater]

Iirc someone was telling me R6 would be harder since the meta shifted but idk

[tardy ingot]

the reasons R6 was easier:
Strongest gun loadout to date yet (Alt R3 and R4 (only peak) is arguable maybe)
Strong tool loadouts (burst sentry works, sniper sentry and mines strong. R7/alt r1 is strongest total tho)
Lack of optionals (only 2 PEs and 3 extra secondaries)
Priority/story expeditions were toned down difficulty wise

[soft crater]

Not meta shift but gun/tool balance has shifted

[past mesa]

Na hel gun is too strong

Sniper nerf might be big

[tardy ingot]

R6 is gonna be the first and only rundown where we will have an overall loadout that will be weaker than when it was out originally

[tardy ingot]

hel gun was legit stronger in og r6

so lol

[past mesa]

Na hel fun is just to strong in general

[soft crater]

R6 didn't have hel rifle did it?

[tardy ingot]

it didnt

but hel rifle isnt better than hel gun (especially not than r6 hel gun)

R6 had 3 of the 5 best weapons ever

actually, 4

[soft crater]

Scattergoon

[halcyon mango]

gtfo lor

[tardy ingot]

R6 sniper and hel gun, scattergun (pre nerf) and hel revolver (with r4 hel revo being even better than it then)

only burst cannon is missing

[soft crater]

Didn't the reload animation for hel revo

Make reload cancel even faster?

[tardy ingot]

now we go into it with a nerfed burst cannon, nerfed sniper, nerfed hel gun. And scattergun MIGHT get nerfed aswell

[tardy ingot]

it had more pen and no recoil

[past mesa]

Scattergun gets buffed

[soft crater]

Nah

Not that

[past mesa]

I am calling it

[soft crater]

At somepoint hel revo got a reload animation change

And it's reload cancel was seemingly faster

It wasn't the recoil one

[tardy ingot]

@civic wave you play lots of r4, you should be able to tell this right?

i dont think they changed its reload cancel

but pachi should know better

[civic wave]

I don't think the reload ever changed, or if it did I certainly haven't noticed or felt it

I shouldnhave footage of both somewhere so gimme a few mins to go frame by frame in editing software

[hazy crater]

Day 98: still attempting r2e1. Hopefully if I die in the game I die in real life

[upper ginkgo]

have you tried cheesing it yet

[civic wave]

takes the exact same amount of frames from both an og r4 clip and a recent alt r5 clip

reload is exactly the same

[hazy crater]

What cheese

[past mesa]

C faom

On ladder

[hazy crater]

I have 1hp and no dreams only night mares

[tardy ingot]

as expected thx tho

[soft crater]

Hmm

Mightve not changed the reload itself

But I believe they added the bullets flying out to the reload

[halcyon mango]

besides the ladder thing, there's also a roof you can get on top of in the first room to camp on while someone else pulls all the first few rooms over.
of course can just stealth all the rooms with shadows if it's doable for you and save ammo.

I assume c-foam also has the 5-min time limit when sprayed on ladders?

[past mesa]

Correct

[halcyon mango]

weird, cuz the c-foam ladder cheese lasts much longer than that

feels like the enemies just despawn or something

[past mesa]

Na the enemies just don’t update

[soft crater]

They can't get past the enemy going down the ladder (who has been cfoamed on the ladder)

Since they can only go one at a time

[halcyon mango]

yeah, but strikers stay c-foamed for like 8s, and c-foam expires after 5 min

so after it expires, it should be free no

[past mesa]

Na they still need to finsish updating

That could take a second as well

[halcyon mango]

what's this "updating" thing

my thoughts are c-foam expire -> striker has 8s before being free again -> comes down the ladder with co

[past mesa]

All Sleepers are allowed 20 updates per a frame

12 updates on network

These vaules go down the further they are away

[halcyon mango]

I see

so it takes longer to be un-c-foamed the further they are away?

[past mesa]

Yeah 2 rooms away

[tardy ingot]

It „doesnt“

[past mesa]

You can see it with bio if you really play attention

[halcyon mango]

more cursed game mechanics

[past mesa]

Na this one is to help performance

[tardy ingot]

jish, they are talking about enemies coming once cfoam is gone

unless im missinterpreting what you are saying jish

[past mesa]

Maybe the updates is why this be happening

[tardy ingot]

you are explaining why ladderfoam cheese is so insane

[halcyon mango]

I remember we did an entire alarm and stuff and never saw those enemies

[tardy ingot]

once the foam is gone the enemys will slowly come up the ladder (since its usually a stacked wave they will come as small chunks)

4 (its actually under 5) min is a LOOONG time

you can do entire levels in that duration

[halcyon mango]

I guess. but surely doing an alarm and going all the way to the last surge alarm takes longer than 5 min considering normal levels can take like 45min+

[tardy ingot]

which „last“ surge alarm?

[halcyon mango]

r2e1

or the part where you're bringing the cell, neonate, and turbine over

I never cleared it fully, so it might be the second to last or third to last or something

but the error alarm part

[tardy ingot]

considering that we did it in ~4 min quite a lot

[halcyon mango]

I see

time dilation under intense situation I guess

[tardy ingot]

also gotta consider

when you get further away from them

1. they gotta path to you

and 2. (basically going of what jish said) their movement gets a bit messed up slowing them down

[tardy ingot]

For sure

[halcyon mango]

oh well, if we lived a minute or two longer then we wouldn've been fucked anyways it sounds like

[tardy ingot]

yea we had that happen before in some attempts on it

took too long and suddenly had spawn capped wave say hi

[neon gust]

You can only.ping enemies that are within the two room limit

You can see that issue with that datacenter tile with the ramp that has a small door that leads down into a staitcase

[past mesa]

My point exactly

[neon gust]

I know

And i support you

Vote jish for president

[past mesa]

I don’t want to be president

[neon gust]

Congressman of gtfo

[lone mortar]

blame Jish

when he is not on Gamescon

[turbid horizon]

bruh i feel so much less stupid

[cold quarry]

consolation, you get to ditch the turbine after the first surge

[left sluice]

theres 4 achievements in the game anyone know anything about them

[turbid horizon]

Test achievements

[left sluice]

huh

so no one can get them

[turbid horizon]

idk tbh

[civic wave]

0.0% of all players have gotten the achievements so I don't think the devs even have them

not that I can post the screenshot anyway, rip embed perms

[tropic vine]

based username (i agree)

[halcyon mango]

does ads with bio actually improve getting pings or is it just a placebo

[neon gust]

Placebo

[halcyon mango]

my life is a lie

[compact rapids]

is bio generally a good tool to bring? I've been using it and liking the utility, but is it just better to bring a different tool?

[sturdy glen]

always bring bio

[craggy pier]

Yes always

It offers lot of information

Also some buffs to sniper and shotgun sentry

[compact rapids]

nice

[halcyon mango]

having red triangles over enemies during alarms helps a lot

so you can be proactive instead of reactive if that makes sense

also some scenarios like ||shadows|| practically require it

[soft crater]

doritos

[whole grove]

What are people's opinion on ResourceHelper mod and/or PingEverything mod?

[craggy pier]

A better question would bé
Do people's opinion matter on how i play the game

[past mesa]

They are fun for me res helper is a tad over barring and I wish I could mute peoples pings

[halcyon mango]

at least with pingeverything there's a bit of controversy since you can use it to supplement the biotracker or find enemies in the dark. not sure how useful or impactful that actually is though

[tropic vine]

I personally like them, the resource helper because it is basicly the same as the "use on ally" but I don't have to have a seprete dedicated button for it, the ping everything mod depends on if they have mic or not

No mic = no problem
If they have mic they can already say what it is

[cold quarry]

based

[neon gust]

If only there was an official way for the devs to filter out the mods that are actually qol

[frosty star]

what was the reasoning for spear shove to consume stam

[cold quarry]

pain

[halcyon mango]

I mean, you are pushing a human sized chunk of flesh regardless of what you’re holding

[tardy ingot]

Hammer and bat shove also use stam

Spear shove just stops the stam regeneration from happening

[tardy ingot]

Mmh, i get what you are going for

But theres lots of communities where some simple mods are basically accepted as standard gameplay and a newbie could be overwhelmed and not know, leading to either not using them (worse experience) or using some that are basically just seen as cheats (usually far worse experience)

Imagine a new guy playing gtfo but with unlimited ammo, no recoil and endless mag

[sacred dew]

that's where the kick function comes in

[mossy aurora]

That's not resource helper, that's packs helper. Resource helper is visually displaying what and where packs/consumables are after you open the boxes

[tropic vine]

oops my bad

i guess that isnt too bad if you have like crazy bad memory

[mossy aurora]

It definitely makes things easier, the disagreement over that mod mainly comes from how important resource identification and memory is to the game experience. Is it something that's ok basically having done for you via the mod or is it ruining a part of the game

A good example of this is the mod that lets you move packs around too. People who like it say it's just for convenience, those who don't recognize that the ability to stack 5 ammo packs in the same locker for a reactor hold is a bit op

[tropic vine]

aaaahhhhh i see

[sacred dew]

or just use mods responsibly and tell your host if they're ok with it

[tardy ingot]

personally

Moving packs is oof
Just knowing the information is smth i wouldnt use but would be fine with

[tropic vine]

yea i gotta agree with eva on this

i just dont like the resourse helper

it might be fine for solo runs but i wouldnt use it with others

[mossy aurora]

When you check mod list and see aimpunch adjuster

[tropic vine]

wait what?

what does that even mean?

[mossy aurora]

U know what aim punch is?

[tropic vine]

nope

[mossy aurora]

You know how if you're trying to shoot something but you get hit right before your aim flinches

That's aimpunch

[tropic vine]

bruh

[latent obsidian]

Does "adjuster" mean "remover"?

[tropic vine]

i would assume so?

[mossy aurora]

I think you can increase the value too

But its always on people that are also using jump and shoot, heroic heart, etc

[latent obsidian]

I keep hearing meming about heroic heart, what is that?

[fierce walrus]

no stamina i think?

[mossy aurora]

Ya

[tropic vine]

cant wait for people to spam "it's QoL"

[tardy ingot]

wdym, it only allows me to safe full minutes of run time

[tropic vine]

you know what would make it faster? CConsole

[solemn flint]

gaming chair?

[tropic vine]

gaming chair

[solemn flint]

gaming chair make speed run run shotter

its the butter on toast of gtfo

[tropic vine]

only thing to make it faster is wearing a gtfo headset that you can wirelessly plug into your pc and chat with others

[verbal zinc]

What’s your favorite cheat?

I mean mod

I mean quality of life improvement

Fucking hell..

[sacred dew]

Not normal settings

[tropic vine]

wasd

[latent obsidian]

I like fogAdjuster, so annying when I can't see anything

[ashen frigate]

How about lifeAdjuster though ? The game is annoying when I get downed in the middle of an alarm

[icy cave]

I prefer nostam and stacking

[soft crater]

Smfh. Cleaner clothes.

Cheating

[craggy pier]

thats fair, i usually assume people who ask bout mods are already well versed into the game unless its DJ which tells people to use mods the first time they load game

[soft crater]

Most people ask me about them because I use the Axe head on hammer

[craggy pier]

speak of what you know

[soft crater]

Maul Mod?

Or at least it's called that and defaulted to Maul head part on Hammer

[craggy pier]

imma head to the lab and apply this hypothesis

[soft crater]

Some people asked me how I got it to use axe head part instead of Maul

You gotta edit the config file for MaulMod and change the persistent ID

To which melee head part you want on it

[dry pumice]

Fireaxe Skin DLC when

I'd buy that

...probably

No, that was most likely some sort of mod

Like biotracker ping or an objective ping?

Like we can ping doors and lockers

Then its most likely "ping everything" mod

Wonder if its considered QoL or cheating by local standards...

I mean, it is pretty harmless all things considered.

But some people abuse the shit out of it by going PING PING PING PING PING in a span of a second

Raping my ears like that makes me want to report you to moderators

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[topaz anvil]

May i introduce you to voice command spam

[latent obsidian]

also flashlight macros

[dry pumice]

#rules

[topaz anvil]

Wtf is a flashlight macro

[latent obsidian]

something people use to toggle their flashlight every frame

[topaz anvil]

Something with 0 value, i see

[latent obsidian]

bar to be really annoying

[dry pumice]

Sometimes i ponder the utility of death penalty

[craggy pier]

what does it do other than making someone epileptic

[topaz anvil]

My favourite qol mod is modlist. Letting me see what mods other people are using and showing their ping

[latent obsidian]

thats about it

[craggy pier]

😐

i was expecting something else

[latent obsidian]

Saw one guy using it years ago, never since thankfully

[dry pumice]

something something some people just want to see the world burn

[topaz anvil]

Ellda r5b2 with me when

[latent obsidian]

uhh, 8:30 if you want

[topaz anvil]

I need a carry tbh

[dry pumice]

Absolutely fucking not

[latent obsidian]

Quad you're in a server with a bunch of vets

how do you need me to carry? xD

[dry pumice]

Maybe using every single exploit and bug there is and even then i doubt it

[craggy pier]

if you are an insane solo player yes

[dry pumice]

Probably long giant kiting of some sorts involved

[topaz anvil]

Half of them are busy playing elder scrolls, the other half wouldn't play vanilla ever again unless its to play with Nymn

[craggy pier]

prolly comfort pick

[dry pumice]

But you'll have to do it after mother unless you're ready to kite her as well

[latent obsidian]

true I am a very comfortable person

[topaz anvil]

Also i haven't played with ellda in a hot minute

[craggy pier]

r7e1 when

[latent obsidian]

I guess 9:25 after we beat B2

[tardy ingot]

Who are vets and who arent tho (and who are in the process of becoming one)

I feel like ellda needs to make a tierlist

[craggy pier]

how about 5

[latent obsidian]

Is this like a smash or pass thing? Vet or not a vet?

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[lone mortar]

Man coul i be in u guys tier list ?

[topaz anvil]

I'm the coolest vet 😎

[lone mortar]

Why

[latent obsidian]

tbh I've not played with that many "vets", I just see people chatting and I get vet vibes

[topaz anvil]

I eminate coolness

[lone mortar]

Being a brit

Basically cool already

Bro literally spawned in the cool guy class

[latent obsidian]

Thats why Quad chooses me

[topaz anvil]

[latent obsidian]

Brits together strong

[topaz anvil]

@civic wave time to hop in

[latent obsidian]

🐒 🐒

[lone mortar]

Damn can i join the Brits?

I wana use the flintlock too

[latent obsidian]

5 I'm playing wiffwaff probably

[craggy pier]

Playing what

[latent obsidian]

wiffwaff

[topaz anvil]

You are a bit of a wiffwaff aren't you mate

[craggy pier]

Play that game of reds VS Americans forgot name

[latent obsidian]

bit of a dabhand at the wiffwaff

[craggy pier]

Idk what that is

[latent obsidian]

🏓

[lone mortar]

The ping and the pong

I understand that cause im asian

[craggy pier]

Oh

[topaz anvil]

It's all the same

[polar mica]

nah just run easy levels and pray

[craggy pier]

Boosters are universal

[polar mica]

r5a2 has pretty good rates IIRC, just cos it's a compact level so the ~20 artifacts or whatever the going rate is is easy to find

[lone mortar]

Nah

R5D1 and D2

[polar mica]

oh, also clear Extreme and Overload sectors on some of the easier levels if possible, they get their own pool of artifacts

[polar mica]

Don't mention those hell-levels

[craggy pier]

Do you have to solo it?

[tardy ingot]

yea solo isnt gonna make that any more likely

[civic wave]

playing as one experienced player is a hell of a lot harder than playing as 4 experienced players

if you've got 4 absolute bumbling idiots then they might fare better with bots because those are fairly adequate for earlier levels

[tardy ingot]

oh you mean playing with bots?

anyhow, thats still horribly worse than with semi competent players unless you use a mod to make the bots good

[lone mortar]

They luv u

[tardy ingot]

Also, no

[fierce walrus]

bots do scans wdym

[tardy ingot]

Expeditions* btw

they just keep around the player

[fierce walrus]

they do as long as you are close enough

[tardy ingot]

obviously they dont split up far away

[fierce walrus]

like i wanna say 5 meters or smth around you they will go for scans

[civic wave]

huh, why'd all those messages get deleted

[civic wave]

no thank you I hate everyone in this country 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

[topaz anvil]

D:

[latent obsidian]

based tbf

[topaz anvil]

I'll get you some food from the chippy

[tardy ingot]

idk viper just deleted them

[civic wave]

god it's been a while since I've eaten at a chippy

or well, food from a chippy, pprobably a few months

[topaz anvil]

It's been a while since I've had fish from one

[latent obsidian]

Its been two days 🤤

[topaz anvil]

Sadly I'm cooking spam today

[civic wave]

yeah it's been 3 months, which feels like ages

what the fuck who cooks with spam

[latent obsidian]

Quad roleplaying destitute 20th century pauper

[topaz anvil]

You do not know the masterpiece that is macaroni and spam

[civic wave]

sounds worse than macaroni and cheese ngl

[topaz anvil]

You get macaroni pasta, beef mince, leek, courgette and spices and you add diced spam

Shits the bomb

[civic wave]

I need to go to M&S to buy baking ingredients but it's hot outside

[topaz anvil]

M&S 💀

Mf rich

[civic wave]

morrisons was shit when I went last night, nothing was in the right place, shelves were fucked with flour

[latent obsidian]

Maybe Waitrose will have something

[civic wave]

I'm not rich, I'm frugal (until I go shopping at M&S, that's not frugal)

[topaz anvil]

Go asda

[civic wave]

I don't wanna walk further in hot weather, M&S is closer

[topaz anvil]

Asda typically has a lot in baking department

[civic wave]

yeah I was debating going to ASDA last night but I went morrisons instead because I can get a bus there

[topaz anvil]

Understandable

[versed thunder]

So me and my friends had a problem that one guy was not moving on 2 of our screens but on the 3rd guys screen after like 10-15 minutes of continuing to play it fixed itself so just curious if anyone knows why it happened

[civic wave]

sounds like bad desync, which is a connection issue

[topaz anvil]

Very bad desync

[versed thunder]

Thing is both us and him could kill enemies

[latent obsidian]

Sometimes one player will be completely invisible to other members of the team

I'm not entirely sure what causes it, desync like mentioned previously I guess

[versed thunder]

Ight just wanted to make sure

Many thanks

[topaz anvil]

[craggy pier]

peak gtfo

[lone mortar]

[tardy ingot]

<@&408548765599793173>

[weary mauve]

What is a good weapon combo for dealing with surge hordes? I want to run hel shotty and a machine gun but will it eat too much ammo/long reloads?

[lone mortar]

both hel shotgun and combat shotgun

but machine guns work well

[craggy pier]

hel shotgun is prolly the best

[lone mortar]

With bots or with team mates?

[craggy pier]

auto firing mode with penetration

[weary mauve]

team mates

[lone mortar]

then yes

a machine gun works good on it

if you wana be the wave stomper than go 2 auto shotguns and just chain lock them for easy kills

[ashen frigate]

Bots with HEL Shotty behind you. (Queue Vietnam PTSD gif)

[lone mortar]

thats

very funni how you put it

[weary mauve]

crouch and pray

[lone mortar]

R2E1?

[weary mauve]

yup

[lone mortar]

easy enough

[craggy pier]

foam ladder r2e1

ladder foam

[lone mortar]

a good tip should say is try to reload on 1/14 or 15/60 on guns

[weary mauve]

will do, thanks

[lone mortar]

reload cancel and just overall a good time to fend ur self

[mossy aurora]

I like the genshin impact flashlight

[hardy grotto]

you disappoint me ryk

[mossy aurora]

If I'm using that mod do my teammates see my flashlight as genshin as well?

[craggy pier]

no

[mossy aurora]

OMG that mod is SHIT now

[craggy pier]

if they also have the mod then yes

10/10 recommend

[sturdy glen]

awful

[craggy pier]

playing game

😐

[sturdy glen]

awful

[craggy pier]

youre awful

[sturdy glen]

thanks babe

[civic wave]

literally removes the point of the mod

[halcyon mango]

range is 4 and 5 on hel and combat shotty, but at what range does dmg falloff to half?

[past mesa]

What is the min max?

[hazy crater]

Spam chopped thinly fried with celery and eggs is amazing

[halcyon mango]

idk, wiki only says the range

[cold quarry]

wiki doesn't state the falloff end range so its hard to tell

[halcyon mango]

is there any sheet or site that lists end range

[torn slate]

are the GTFO servers down?

[fierce walrus]

yes

[torn slate]

oh

thx

[ocean spindle]

i mean more like steam

[full jacinth]

There is a spreadsheet. For HEL shotgun to get to 1/2 dmg in absence of any multipliers (headshot, etc.), it would have to be shot at 22 meters from target. The spreadsheet I found on reddit by a user named RandomKenny called weapon analysis or something.

[halcyon mango]

thanks. could you share the link? also damn. means you don't need to be so close to do dmg as long as dispersion isn't screwing you up

nevermind, found it

thanks though!

[full jacinth]

yeah the spread is pretty bad at range you really wanna be holding choke points with that thing otherwise it doesn't do anything lol

[halcyon mango]

yeah, was just thinking about charger hordes. My mindset was "4m or else you aren't doing any damage" so I would get licked more than I should have.
If the falloff is that far, then I could feel free to just mag dump a bit further away

[soft crater]

Iirc different weapons have different damage falloffs

Never looked too deeply into it outside of that

Because High cal got a range buff but from what I saw. Basically lost less damage after 8m

[halcyon mango]

oh no

oh no

don't tell me it's quadratic or cubic for shotguns or something

[sturdy glen]

its linear

[torn slate]

when do you guys think alt r6 is coming out

[sturdy glen]

24th

[torn slate]

hopefully

[soft crater]

23.5

Wedthur

[minor fractal]

June 1

[topaz anvil]

Yestermorrow

[neon gust]

Maybe they'are fixing the checkpoint bugs!!!

Thats why its taking so long

[soft crater]

They keep checkpointing back in time to the point where they haven't fixed it yet

[craggy pier]

[fierce nebula]

I thought you said fleshlight

[craggy pier]

Says lot bout you 🧐

[topaz anvil]

I keep hoping they are gonna pull a geometry dash 2.2 and fix a fuck ton of bugs in one patch

[cold quarry]

they are hyping up alt r6

quite a bit more than the others

[craggy pier]

Well it was the full release

And te 'xkf

Fuxk

[fierce nebula]

"remember when you first started playing? you can play those same levels now" - 10cc

[fallow fox]

everyone SCARED of R4E1!!!!

[halcyon mango]

I mean, it is considered one of the most difficult missions

tank alarm sounds kinda...

[soft crater]

GTFO 2.0

[hardy apex]

are there any options for corpse despawn time?

[bold atlas]

Idrc about alt R6 I just want the broken scattergun again

[vague bridge]

i wish

they have that in payday 2 and its always hilarious

imagine reactor levels

[soft crater]

hears cloaker approaching

[bold atlas]

Gonna be a nightmare trying to figure out what’s a corpse and what’s alive

[ocean spindle]

if u dont look at the corpses they just dissapear so like

there u go skdmk

also part of the difficulty

thats why u bio

tag the ones alive

[soft crater]

I oddly remembered Haze

Where the soldiers are seemingly always high off of Nectar

(When they take Nectar the horrors of war are invisible to them)

[craggy pier]

i haven't been active in this game since January of 2021, have there been (excluding spoiler/rundown/enemy/and the like) stuff i should be caught up on?

can you still silent b-hop 👀

[cold quarry]

no

[craggy pier]

wait

are these all the old rundowns

[weary plaza]

Yeah

They added them back with a few changes

[craggy pier]

and the reset our progress on them?

:/

[weary plaza]

It's not the same level as before

They probably just moved a plant somewhere and said "Done"

[craggy pier]

are you still able to join lobbies of missions you havent unlocked yet?

[weary plaza]

Of course

[craggy pier]

[weary plaza]

You think that's a bad thing?

[craggy pier]

no

i was worried i was going to have to grind out solo with bots to play with people

[weary plaza]

You can join an E tier right after buying the game

so don't worry about that lol

[bold atlas]

Was it leaked that we will get a trailer for the new rundown next week?

[jagged shore]

less a leak, more an announcement https://twitter.com/GTFOthegame/status/1689934929163952128?s=20

[thorny creek]

I can't wait for R6 to drop just so I can finish it in 2 hours, then go back to hydrostasis

[jolly berry]

hey, this is likely a question that has been asked before, but I am having a a disagreement with someone, do scouts gain ay sort of damage resistance when their feelers are out?

[neon gust]

no

you can kill them during any time when they sleepwalking

only time they get anything its if they trigger

and thats complete invulnerability

[jolly berry]

excellent, time to go headshot it with a precision rifle

[cold quarry]

get that mf

[neon gust]

get his ass

[jolly berry]

welp, forgot there is 2 scouts in the apex door room on r1d1, the second one triggered, and I got pincered

[cold quarry]

but the first one

you got his ass right

[soft crater]

Their ass right? Not the head right?

Right??

[cold quarry]

oh he got their ASS >:)

[lone mortar]

hehe "ass"

[cold quarry]

Like butt

[lone mortar]

when R5D-E tiers

[cold quarry]

When I edit it

[lone mortar]

where raw file

[icy cave]

That's why you learn to mêlee them

[silver fable]

yeah they just increased falloff end distance for some reason
the net effect is that pre-nerf high cal hits harder than post-nerf high cal, up until ~33m, after which post-nerf high cal pulls ahead
it's still linear falloff from falloff start distance to falloff end distance, just like every other gun

[zealous light]

Does anyone know if there's more recent statistics on the survival rates of different expeditions? Found some from 2020 and around the release of R7

[tardy ingot]

dont think theres been any post R7 for now

[floral acorn]

r5 stats they did release, with r6 they said there was a problem with the stats

r7 can't remember if they posted anything

[zealous light]

Thanks, hopefully we get some later on

[tardy ingot]

Tutorial/training/eval % stats still goated

[native sun]

Steve McSpeedrunning-Resets is an outlier and should be ignored

[tardy ingot]

Imagine if r1a1 resets in drop would count to completions LOL

the %rate would be fucked

[civic wave]

They did iirc at some point in a steam post

R7a1 was around 39% even with being easy as hell and checkpoints

[tardy ingot]

Oh god tru is turned
No longer our tru

[native sun]

#gtfo-media message
R7 completion stats, from a steam post in November 2022

[native sun]

I'll always be yours Eva

[tardy ingot]

Makes a lot of sense as always

R7A1 is the easiest non training mission up to date (and training wouldve had a higher completion% if it wasnt for the mentally deranged speedrun community)

B1/C1/D1 having lower% than their counterparts even tho they are similar or even easier because beginners get stuck on them

E1 standing out generally (tho probably having a slightly inflated % even because you need to do all levels to play it)

C1 being the biggest roadblock overall for beginners specifically is quite well shown

And C3 most likely is a mix of beginners having no or little clue on giant stealth and vets yoloing it

[native sun]

C2 having a relatively easy first checkpoint I think also contributes a lot to its high completion rate.

[tropic vine]

just curious where did you find this image from?

[native sun]

aw man you gon make me scroll again

[tropic vine]

sorry mate :(

[native sun]

(was joking) from this steam announcement: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/493520/view/3481873895649627128?l=english

[tropic vine]

epic, thank you

[tardy ingot]

Imo its also the „easiest“ main of the 3 once you get past that first scan

• c1 1st checkpoint is prone to breaking forcing resets

Btw as everyone should know, my opinion is always tru

[tardy ingot]

Confirmed here

[native sun]

tbh I don't know how the the completion % handles checkpoints, if it counts resets to checkpoints

Though I think generally C1 and C3 have hard short sections between checkpoints, while C2 has long easy sections between checkpoints. So you might retry from C3 checkpoints several times, while you'd generally only retry from C2 checkpoints once or twice before getting it

[zealous light]

Thank you!

[bold epoch]

what is the [1,1,-,-] in this "COMPLETED: [1,1,-,-]" mean ?

[latent obsidian]

They are the counts for Main/Secondary/Overload/Prisoner Efficiency clears on a level

If there is a - it means that completion isn't available on that level, (it only has main and secondary)

So for your example you cleared it with secondary once, no overload was available

[bold epoch]

what is the different if i only do main obj vs do all obj ? only some extra booster and exploration ?

and lore relate i guess ?

[soft crater]

More artifacts

[latent obsidian]

Just to say that you've beaten it all I guess

[soft crater]

And bragging rights

[latent obsidian]

There might be a bit of lore in those areas, not much

[civic wave]

More difficulty in the optional objectives

That's the main thing

[bold epoch]

thanks guys

[torn slate]

can you one shot a little shooter on the occiput with a basic attack with the sledgehammer?

[tardy ingot]

yes

[torn slate]

ty

[ocean spindle]

has there been a reactor when u can like close a door and just, foam it forever?

[fierce walrus]

R4D1

but only works for first code

after it you open more spawn points

[civic wave]

you can try and do that for r7e1

[ocean spindle]

maybs if u didn't used tool, ever

didn't r1c1 og had doors?

like closable doors?

[craggy pier]

1 iirc

[ocean spindle]

yeah like after the bridge on the, weird L shaped room

...

Could u foam that like

for a lot of rounds?

[stuck elm]

Yeah but there's biomass in the way right?

[ocean spindle]

don't wake em up :3

easy

[tardy ingot]

Foam? Yes
Lots of rounds? No

R1C1 has immense warm up lengths

[civic wave]

you can get through it

[ocean spindle]

damn true qwq it was like one min since first round

one min 30 or so

aa

sad

[stuck elm]

It's a rouse.

[ocean spindle]

my master plan has fallen apart

[raven owl]

Can you power syringe with a fully charged hammer to the front of a charger scout or does it have to be the back

And can two fully charged hammers to the front of a charger scout take out the charger scout

[ocean spindle]

No for the second one

scout has 42 health, hammers are 20 full charge

so u need at least one back

[raven owl]

I see

[ocean spindle]

Theeeee IIX tho
i mean its a x3 dmg multiplier..... so i guess u could?

but

idk

[raven owl]

I see, and how long does the power syringe last?

[ocean spindle]

8 seconds if im not wrong, but you can only do one hit with it

then it goes away

[civic wave]

C SCOUT has more than 42hp

[ocean spindle]

does it

a

ah 60 health

...

wait

[tardy ingot]

:|

slendi

[ocean spindle]

hammer at back hammer at front, its still 60 isnt it?

[tardy ingot]

how do you forget that

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

hey >:[
im not the gtfo wiki skmdkm

[civic wave]

if you get perfect back damage then yeah

if not, whoops

[ocean spindle]

if not :3

[civic wave]

because back damage is a spectrum for some reason

[ocean spindle]

i guess its the

roundin

thing?

idk

but then u can also kill it with the IIX from front right

[btw the pic of the wiki is kinda bad its super dark]

[jaunty tapir]

Whats the optimal turret placement in R1C1 with four burst sentries?

staggered back about 15 meteres from eachother from inside and outside the hole to the truck bridge?

[fierce walrus]

same as with 3 i would assume - one in the hole in the wall, one on the bridge, one infont of the door past the hole in the wall and i guess an extra one whenever you are struggling and need its support

[soft crater]

The last few times I've seen r1c1 strat help requests
2 bursts 1 sniper 1 bio

Next to some people recently have been wanting to defend at 2nd hole in the wall.

[tardy ingot]

Take 3 :p
For burst sentry optimal setup (for killing) place 2 together with roughly 3-5 meters between them. Then the last one can work as stagger help further behind or be a sniper sentry thats there to pick off giants and some smalls

[soft crater]

But bridge spot is still majority of runs

[soft crater]

I prefer loading the empty sniper sentry while infront of it

[flint musk]

What is the difference between the Machine Pistol and the Hel Autopistol? They seem very similiar.

[past mesa]

one does dmg

the other doesnt

[craggy pier]

lmao

[lone mortar]

Blue pill: they are the same
Red pill: one punches through one don't

[flint musk]

So... what are they for? the MP for killing many dudes at close range, and the HEL for nothing but... staggering hordes, maybe?

[past mesa]

yup

just use hel shot gun if y ou like these weapons imo

[thorny creek]

One shoots pebbles, the other shoots paper balls

[lone mortar]

you know the small small ones right?

[thorny creek]

Hel pp makes you a human autosentry

[past mesa]

who doesnt want that

i wish i could play as a sentry gun in other peoples game

like they place one down then i take control for a bit

[pine swift]

How can I avoid carrying someone new to the game? I’d like to help someone get into the game but there is a… skill gap.

[past mesa]

dont interact

follow them around

[fallow fox]

let them suffffeeerrr....

[past mesa]

let them choose the defenses

let them make mistakes. if they make the same one to many times correct them after it

[pine swift]

I’ll keep all that in mind

[past mesa]

yeah the game has some depth to it. tbh just be chill while playing it for the first like 20 hours

once you get to d tier levels you can help out a bit more

[hidden ridge]

Takes A LOT of patience ngl

[soft crater]

A more efficient auto sentry tbf

[fallow fox]

everyone TERRIFIED of E levels lol

[hidden ridge]

I usually dont and power through explaining shit IF they care enough

[soft crater]

When I join lfgs focusing this but there's always that 1 experienced player that carries/monkey stealths

[hidden ridge]

Yeah

If you see me inviting newbies to 2 slot voice channels

That's exactly why

[tardy ingot]

By virtue of not spamming into 1 enemy when staggered already and hitting shots more often than 1/10

[cold quarry]

don't tell them much, let them lead

big two imo

[hidden ridge]

But I'll be sincere: most newbies in lfg-beginners simply dont care

[tardy ingot]

Cannot believe you never invited me

[soft crater]

Auto sentry trying real hard to get that one shooter behind the broken door panels

[tardy ingot]

It doesnt even have to be broken door panels

have you seen it try and kill a shooter at 10 m range?

[hidden ridge]

Also dont infodump

[soft crater]

I've seen it give or take yah

Shit just wastes ammo

[cold quarry]

thats what I mean

if a friend of mine gets the game I don't tell them jack shit

[hidden ridge]

They ask X you explain X, the only time I "infodump" is when explaining terminals

And even then I've shortened it to just write in chat PING,QUERY and LIST

[soft crater]

I've only info dumped if they ask for it specifically

[hidden ridge]

that takes care of 99% of the stuff tbh

[soft crater]

Or start trusting misinformation

The amount of misinformation around newbies scares me but it isn't as bad as R6 days

[hidden ridge]

You dont know how many "3 groups newbies but 1 of them is THAT guy" I had

[tardy ingot]

I start out with commands and help

Let them read. Then if they wanna know explain list, ping and query

[cold quarry]

like bringing 100% infection res to the first level with infectious fog and gaslighting the fuck out of them

[hidden ridge]

Where THAT guy needs to say useless wrong shit like cfoam attracts enemies

or scouts wake up nearby rooms

[soft crater]

One guy: Hammer doesn't do 3 damage. It got nerfed. It can't one tap shooters.
Another guy: High pulse starts doing tick damage

[hidden ridge]

yeah the high pulse one is also common

no idea why

[soft crater]

These 2 in particular got so mad at me

[cold quarry]

people get spooked when healthbar change color

[soft crater]

When I said why and how

[cold quarry]

for no reason really

[hidden ridge]

"Glowsticks wake them up"

[tardy ingot]

I wish id get people like that ;-;

[hidden ridge]

For fuck's sake 😄

[soft crater]

I love this one because then I just start spamming glow sticks at a sleeper near them

[cold quarry]

one day they're gonna patch it and hitting a sleeper with a glowstick will wake them up

then you'll see

[past mesa]

it is more because if you health bar changes colour the game is trying to tell you something

TBh the health bar changing colour is really bad design

[soft crater]

They commit "Eva Moments" on accident and not on purpose tho

[cold quarry]

yeah they could've done a better 'warning' indicator with the ui

A ! next to the pulse when you reach low stam would work better

[civic wave]

you know, I can't recall a single time I've occiput killed a shooter without charging on current version

[past mesa]

100%

[hidden ridge]

or making pulse glow red

[soft crater]

Another with stamina is just people believing you take double damage

[tardy ingot]

you mean to tell me the occi kill change doesnr actually make the game garbage?

[past mesa]

just anthing that isnt health bar related

WOuld be better

[cold quarry]

same with IIX

makes no sense

[past mesa]

correct

[cold quarry]

i'd take a sound effect and some shitty red veins on the edges of the screen over a yellow healthbar

new players inject an IIX and go "So wtf did that do"

[soft crater]

IIX makes it so you take double damage but you deal triple melee damage

Kek imagine

[past mesa]

this game gives grabage info sometimes

[hidden ridge]

The red veins on the edge of the screen would suffice imho

[tardy ingot]

iix is actually so garbage now info wise with stam change

same colour change as stam so players might think its stamina related

[cold quarry]

or maybe even changing the color of the crosshair to red or something when you charge?

[hidden ridge]

That'd also work

[ocean spindle]

that would make players get confused thinkin it has somethin to do with infection tho

[past mesa]

make hammer or melee glow

imo

[tardy ingot]

nah

[hidden ridge]

or add a flexing bicep icon next to the crosshair, whatever

[cold quarry]

if they looked noticably different from the infection veins it wouldn't

[cold quarry]

just a gigachad gif starts playing in the bottom corner

[civic wave]

what infection veins

when have there ever been infection veins

[tardy ingot]

Just having the crosshair have a red line that slowly disappears in the circle could work

[ocean spindle]

idk how u would do that tbh, its not like u see infenction veins too much so they would just go 'ah its thoseee' even if they r way another shape

but yeah the crosshair thing

that would b nice

[past mesa]

i dislike this cause it is obvi that it is melee related

[tardy ingot]

and a glowing melee isnt ?

[past mesa]

It is obvi the hammer has changed

it ruins atosphere

100%

[cold quarry]

if they want to make it 'fit' the UI more there could be a little message on the opposite end of the healthbar from pulse that just says 'MUSCLE MASS INCREASED' or some shit

[ocean spindle]

my ionosphere

[cold quarry]

probably not the best phrase but you know what I mean

[civic wave]

yeah tbh, if it seems like something out of baldur's gate 3 it probably shouldn't be in gtfo

[past mesa]

TBH

this game needs more game elements

[tardy ingot]

i disagree

[past mesa]

i dislike the realism shit

so much

[soft crater]

Where is the flying shadow snatcher

Smh

[tardy ingot]

it also has very well integrated hud in theory (the only things that are wonky af are the hacks imo)