#gtfo-related-questions

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lethal abyss
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yes

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we survive fine but we can't get out

past mesa
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you can hold on the birdge with the hole in the wall

dry pumice
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  1. you don't need a 4th sentry
  2. You don't have to place even all 3 of them. 1-2 is more than enough and then you can drop the 3rd one as a panic plan-B button
past mesa
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so you are closer to resources

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then stagger the sentries

past mesa
lethal abyss
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and the furthest we got was to extract but the 1st friend to make it past the gate locked all of us in with the enemies and we died before we could open the door

dry pumice
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Yeah, what do you mean by "can't get out?"

past mesa
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it will make that easier

dry pumice
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That is the kind of skill issue we cannot fix unfortunately

past mesa
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you almost made it will have it on the next try

lethal abyss
dry pumice
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Just move as a squad, shoot anything that moves, setup defenses on extract, done

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It is the single easiest reactor mission in the game, so you know... Get used to the pain.

lethal abyss
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not just in gtfo

dry pumice
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Yeah, you won't make it far with a guy like that

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R1 maybe, then you'll reach R2 and it'll become a big roadblock

solemn flint
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a giant horde was coming after you when ur teammate "accidently" close the door

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or ur friend just be a really bad friend and lock u behind when u guys are running to extraction

solemn flint
stark isle
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bro why do people run r4e1 no mods

sturdy glen
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huh?

stark isle
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i was running a r4e1 whole team ran no mods with smg and auto pistol andbuckland special

ruby wasp
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wdym "no mods"

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no boosters ?

stark isle
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yeah

ruby wasp
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The map is already shit

stark isle
ruby wasp
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Probably trolling then

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The buckland (shotgun i think ?) can handle tanks fine

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But 3 autopistols for the reactor ๐Ÿ’€

stark isle
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we didnt even get past first room because he was surprised there were 2 tanks

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he was running the buckland s870

ruby wasp
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2 tanks ? first room ?

stark isle
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yeah

ruby wasp
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Nah something's sus here

stark isle
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he pulled one from 3rd

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when he opened 2nd door

ruby wasp
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Yeah i think you're playing R4E1 from another timeline

stark isle
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wdym

ruby wasp
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R4E1 spawns tanks every 4 minutes, with the first one spawning after 15s

stark isle
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yeah idk why

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but there were 2

ruby wasp
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Either you hallucinated or someone used mods

stark isle
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one on the lower and one above

ruby wasp
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Unless you mean giants ?

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And not tanks ?

stark isle
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the ones with blobs on their backs

ruby wasp
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Yeah something's off

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Run the level solo

plain birch
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Just did R5C2 Overload, it has been a couple of year since I last played it. We had some bio scan speed boosters and after completed the hold out scan we kept gettting waves spawning. Did they change it where even if you complete the scan earlier it still spawns all the waves?

ruby wasp
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You'll see that only one spawns

ruby wasp
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It's not an error

stark isle
ruby wasp
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After the nerf you had always the same amount of enemies

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They kept the same thing here

plain birch
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Gotcha

ruby wasp
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Although they added snatchers & removed 1 tank

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So in the end you could even clear all the enemies at 0% scan

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then do the scan

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Anyway it's a normal behavior

plain birch
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Interesting

ruby wasp
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And you'll see how it's supposed to happen

plain birch
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Never tried it that way. So if we wanted to we go could run into a better hold out area, kill all the waves, and then finish the scan with nothing else spawning?

ruby wasp
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This is what was done in the OG level

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But now it's more of a hassle than anything else

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If you noticed the area before the overload one, there's a long bridge

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In the OG it was much further, close to the spawn

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So you could defend there and all the enemies would spawn in front of you

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If you do that now they'll spawn behind you

plain birch
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Good to know, thank you. When I did it a long time ago a mother did not spawn but we had to fall back extreme Reactor to kill off 4 or 5 tanks.

ruby wasp
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That was prenerf C2

plain birch
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Yeah, it was crazy but a lot of fun

mossy aurora
stark isle
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i used all my good boosters ):

ruby wasp
plain birch
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Does the mother in r5c2 spawn last in overload and does she always spawn from one direction or is it random?

ruby wasp
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Yes and random

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She's always the last one to spawn

plain birch
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Alright, that is all good to know. Thank you for the answers, we did die in the overload part but that was because we left it as soon as the scan was done thinking it was over. We did very well holding out in the middle so next time we will just hold there the entire time until mother spawns or potentially find a different spot outside of the zone to defend at.

ruby wasp
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Yeah it's better to stay in the area until everything is cleared

plain birch
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I suppose that is for the best since I think it is what the devs intended

ruby wasp
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It is

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They heavily nerfed the waves

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Which makes it much more bearable

plain birch
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They did, I still remember the old R5 when you had 4 or 5 tanks in the room; long time ago when we beat it we pretty much had to circle together around the room as the tanks chased us as we finished the scan.

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Again thank you for the answers, have a good night/day.

ruby wasp
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np

mossy aurora
modern ibex
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Unrelated but god I hate limited-use rng boosters

ruby wasp
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R4E1 has a comically large amount of resources anyway

ruby wasp
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Not boosters

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Like

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real mods

stark isle
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oh no

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i started 4 days ago

ruby wasp
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No one in your team did ?

stark isle
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nah

ruby wasp
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4 days ago

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already in R4E1

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๐Ÿ’€

stark isle
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we all died instantly

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yes

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i have 77.2 hrs

modern ibex
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bro have you been sleeping at all in those 4 days since you got the game

stark isle
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6 days

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i have

ruby wasp
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No one handled the tanks in your team it seems

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So i assume there were no hardcarry

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Are you and your friends some kind of war machines to reach R4E1 without getting carried that fast ?

stark isle
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no

modern ibex
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Well not everyone does every Rundown in order

ruby wasp
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I mean

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Even by starting on R4

stark isle
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i've completed most up to r4

ruby wasp
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what

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Bro cleared almost 4 rundowns in 4 days with less than 100h playtime

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๐Ÿ’€

modern ibex
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The difficulty ramps up pretty substantially as you get later into Rundowns, it's fairly easy to burn through most of the early missions, I feel

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but still, good fucking god

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and congratulations

ruby wasp
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very sussy

sturdy glen
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you guys doing main only for the r4 levels?

ruby wasp
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I mean

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They seem to have cleared R2D2 & R2E1 as well just fine

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๐Ÿ˜ณ

stark isle
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all of today i have completed r4 from 5am to 10 pm

ruby wasp
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Yeah but

modern ibex
ruby wasp
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only main ?

stark isle
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i was kinda carried through d2 and e1

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yes

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idc ab secondaries

stark isle
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you get nothing from it

ruby wasp
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muh cosmetics

modern ibex
sturdy glen
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r4 optionals really drag out the length of pretty much all the levels

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thats why I asked

modern ibex
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๐Ÿ˜

ruby wasp
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Anyway

sturdy glen
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very cool

ruby wasp
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Assuming what you said is true, i heavily suggest that you check if anyone in your team has mods

modern ibex
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Yeah, bugs aren't out of the question, but the only time I had goofy shit like that happen was when my mod that adjusts spawns to player count was shitting out charger giants in a random R3 A-level expo

ruby wasp
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I've never heard of a bug duplicating enemies

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Def a sussy teammate who found it silly to spawn tanks everywhere

modern ibex
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I mean weird stuff happens all the time even in super well-polished games, who knows.

ruby wasp
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This case is a bit too far-fetched tho

modern ibex
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Well they know it can be caused by mods so if they're not being truthful or if they don't know if a teammate is running them, at least they know now

modern ibex
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Hey what's the best order of operations for R2C2? The rooms literally full of infectious fog with no Turbine in the level are breaking my balls

ocean spindle
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there is a tubine

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is n the same zone as cell

modern ibex
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Really? It wasn't showing up on Terminal lists

ocean spindle
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theres two in there i think

modern ibex
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Are you certain? This is the one with the generator that needs five power cells

vague bridge
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you must've made a typo

sturdy glen
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thats r2d1 not r2c2

modern ibex
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I listed by FOG and TURBINE and neither of them came up with any results

ocean spindle
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ah thats d1

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r2d1

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that is no turbines

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r2c2 has 2

modern ibex
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Oh wait you're right, thank you. I'm not sure why I skipped C2, I usually don't

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Wait I didn't, it's just that the mission text is ??? in red

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fucking hell

ocean spindle
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:3

modern ibex
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I feel my sanity slipping away with every passing moment

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Also so what's the best order of operations for R2D1? The rooms full of infectious fog are killing me with no turbine

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I feel like I have to just suicide into them to figure out where to go for next time

ocean spindle
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yeah but well on d1 usually just, one person in ur team does the fug divin, the rest stay up, and just kinda wait
u can figure out like the zones w/o as much fog and do em in order

ruby wasp
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On R2D1 good question since several doors have alarms

ocean spindle
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i think my path was, go into blood door with key, nab cell, go into the resource room [u should do it its a ton of packs, and u get the cell back so no loss], i did the keycard door, went to the last zone on there,, nab the other keycard for disinfection, and with thats i think its 5 cells

ruby wasp
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Now i forgor everything about it ๐Ÿ˜ณ

modern ibex
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Okay so it's worth doing the door that requires a cell, that's good to know. That one was a bit of head scratcher for me

ocean spindle
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yeah i was like 'why would i' too when i first started doin the level, but u dont lose a cell and get a ton of nice stuff

modern ibex
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Yeah seems worth, especially if you're going through that area for other cells/res anyway

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Alright I suppose i'll just give it another go. I'm ngl I'm pretty over R2 at this point, infectious fog can eat my entire ass

ocean spindle
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yeah it gets, tiring, that missions feels 4 hours long

modern ibex
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Honest to god, I don't mind the slow pace, it's one of the reasons I prefer to play solo. But every time I spend a ton of time in a mission only to find out that I basically need to throw my run to map out a fog-filled area, I want to die (and then I do)

ocean spindle
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i mean i dont mind it either but that mission just
annoys me KMSKDM
i mean is cool on like ideas n stuff but damn is easy to get killed too

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some alarms r brutal

modern ibex
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Yeah, I feel that. I don't mind a mission you have to pick through slowly but if you're not having a good time doing it then it just really drags out

raven owl
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Does a melee weapon's damage increase linearly with charging time until it maxes out?

vague bridge
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i don't believe so

ocean spindle
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i think

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i mean
sometimes u oneshot enemy at half charge, but u dont at quarter charge

vague bridge
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that doesn't prove anything about linear charge

sturdy glen
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it is not linear

vague bridge
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I think there was a whole conversation once about how needlessly complex the charge equation was

ocean spindle
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fairs

raven owl
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So there is only a minimum damage (not fully charged) and maximum damage (fully charged)?

vague bridge
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theres inbetweens

raven owl
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Excluding all the enemy weak spots and what no-

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oh

vague bridge
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its just a different equation than a linear one

modern ibex
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I feel like the best thing you can do is learn the different breakpoints for the weapon you're using. Like a 60%~ charge with a sledge breaks locks, 100% charge will kill any small sleeper with a headshot, etc.

raven owl
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So asymptotal?

sturdy glen
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closest ive heard is its cubic

jagged shore
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yeah i've been told it's x^3 charge percentage

past mesa
soft crater
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technically speaking. a full charged Hammer will kill a normal striker anywhere to the body.

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the weird one to me is spear needing like 75-80% charge to break locks

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not really weird. just I hate it

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(Where Locking pickinglawyer when you need him)

sturdy glen
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it seems to be 17x^3 + 3

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which is a lot simpler than I expected?

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but kinda checks out

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for sledge

jagged shore
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cause it's just scaling between light dmg to charged dmg

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but the scale factor is cubed yeah

sturdy glen
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ig I dont know why I would expect a more complicated formula

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it was made by game devs

soft crater
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Imean

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I don't blame you for thinking that

jagged shore
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i mean also to be fair, the charge being cubed is already kinda overcomplicating it

soft crater
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considering other areas in this game that have equations

sturdy glen
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cubing it is an interesting way to design your melee charge mechanic

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I like it

soft crater
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so

sturdy glen
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cuz it places the emphasis on higher charge and less on lower

soft crater
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if I kill a Striker

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can I say

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he got Cubed?

fallen wraith
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what does C in C-Foam mean?

soft crater
jagged shore
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construction

fallen wraith
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oh really?

jagged shore
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according to the wiki

fallen wraith
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I feel like 10 Chambers know exactly what they made

soft crater
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Cfoam is based off a real thing-

fallen wraith
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when they called it C-Foam

soft crater
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Though I forget what the actual thing is called

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Insulation foam shit etc.

jagged shore
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i think they might've expected their audience to be a bit less interested in that

soft crater
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So

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Ye

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Irl. Shits literally just called Spray/insulating foam

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Or Foam sealant

fallen wraith
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I see

soft crater
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Though it doesn't shoot out like it does in game ofc.

fallen wraith
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that wont stop me from calling it the way everone else thinks of it tho

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yk what it is ik what it is

soft crater
fallen wraith
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makes me wonder how they came up with it

jagged shore
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idk about you but i don't think my "c-foam" is very reinforcing

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also a log apparently implies that the actual product is "PolyFoam"

soft crater
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Polyurethane

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The material the foam is made of

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But could be various things from the world of gtfo

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If C is construction. It's probably meant for insulation in walls / sealant-support for cracks and etc.

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Like if you have cement stairs that aren't stable or upright. Due to cracks and etc.
I vaguely recall the fixers filling up the empty gaps below with a foam to fill/support the stairs/walkway above to be level again

wintry kayak
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maybe C is just carbon

soft crater
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potentially

cosmic owl
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does anyone know what happened to my screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19httmqQnAQ ? there was a black goo that appeared that looked like the mario kart squid spray and covered 80% of my screen but it did eventually go away

hidden ridge
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Sometimes after it goes away it fucks the ui up for the rest of the expedition

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IIRC when you get it, tab a couple of times to make it begin to go away faster

velvet rivet
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did someone know how to fix the problem

hidden ridge
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I assume Bishop's a bot and not someone being funny with the name "Bishop"

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If it's the second one it sometimes happens with desync or weird shit between clients and that's more networking related

velvet rivet
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oh I see, thankyou

nova nimbus
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Can someone give me the exact location which KSO make their expedition operations?

fierce walrus
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um what

nova nimbus
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Rundown operations.

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where they take place?

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I know its somewhere in the mexico

vague bridge
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chicxulub meteor

fierce walrus
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the place where the asteroid hit

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That wiped dinosaurs

vague bridge
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in the yucatan peninsula

nova nimbus
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thanks

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I was trying to make a fan made voice record

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following the lore and the timeline was really hard

fierce walrus
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its funky

nova nimbus
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I mean at the same time

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figuring out how to do it

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was a problem

hollow cave
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I'm new to the game and have a question. When im done with R1, how do I complete the secondary, overload and prisoner efficiency?

vague bridge
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optionals are not a thing for r1, r2 and r3

hidden ridge
ocean spindle
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sectors are secondary objectives for a mission, not unlockables for a rundown
they are accesible in the level, and there are specific doors to get to em, so u will know when u see one :3

proper marten
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hello can I get pc specs and fps, I want to compare game performance

proper marten
craggy pier
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np

halcyon mango
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what weapons do you use for constant, big hordes

craggy pier
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big hordes as in lot of enemies or big as in big guys

cold quarry
fierce nebula
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a horde of big guys

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like 30 big guys stomping to you

craggy pier
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๐Ÿง

fierce nebula
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with their huge meaty feet slamming the concrete floor

cold quarry
halcyon mango
ocean spindle
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well if u wanna deal with a lot of bigs, usually fast medium high dmg works, chokemod, normal shottie, hel gun , its a lot than can take a big down fast but it is also a lot of ammo ur gonna use
a lot of enemies, usually crowd control could be, hel shottie for piled up enemies, combat shottie which can double to kill bigs, machinegun that can do the same too, maybs heavy assault rifle cause it has high dmg tho a bit low ammo...

craggy pier
soft crater
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hel pp supremacy

ocean spindle
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well if u got good aim, u can take 3 bigs down with a sniper right away

solemn flint
mossy dragon
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what ever happened with rundown 6? seems to be a hot topic, im new

mossy dragon
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was it removed and patched or something?

solemn flint
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they are renewing r6

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making it look a bit more new and change the name to alt r6

ocean spindle
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soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 6

craggy pier
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hopefully harder

mossy dragon
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ohhh i see thats awesome

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thanks for letting me know'

ocean spindle
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is oki

raven owl
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How does the enemy spawning two rooms away mechanic actually work in cases where there are 3 rooms and all of them are connected to each other

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For example:
There is room A, room B, and room C. Room A has the bioscan and room B and C are both connected to room A, and additionally room B and C are both connected to each other.

So counting wise, room A is 0, room B is 1, and then room C is 2. But it can also count a room A is 0, room C is 1, and then room B is 2?

ocean spindle
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the mechanic works in areas, if theres area A B C, itll take C as the room to spawn enemies, it depends on how they connect
EXAMPLE, Lets say u are in A, theres a room to B and then C is in the very back but they are both connected by just a room divider, the game sees ur in A, it sees B as the next room and then spawns the enemies in C
same goes for other situations, lets say now: ANOTHeR EXAMPLE, You are in A, and it connects to B through a room divider, and then theres a door to C; the game sees ur in A, it sees B as the next room, so it spawns enemies in C

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theres some alarms that work a bit differently, like one in R7B1, but there are mostly exceptions

raven owl
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My brain is cooking

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Man, this is kinda hard to describe with just words lmfao

craggy pier
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listen

ocean spindle
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yeah but its usually just by areas, open ur map, and see the three areas, just see the one closest to the one ur in, then the one next to that one, and thats were they r gonna spawn

neon gust
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LISTEN TO THEM

craggy pier
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look at map count 2 rooms and thats where they spawn

neon gust
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^ as simple as that

ocean spindle
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yeah, and if u see two ways, well they could spawn from two sides

jagged shore
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if a room has multiple numbers away it could be, it's the lowest of them

craggy pier
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@raven owl they spawn in D

ocean spindle
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w>

raven owl
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I see

ocean spindle
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they spawn in ur face

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watch out

raven owl
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Alright, thank you all BishopHug

ocean spindle
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good luck on ur alarrmsms

raven owl
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More likely to get trolled by scout going off

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But thanks

ocean spindle
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qwq fairs

fierce nebula
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R5 and R4 were some of the hardest rundowns

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then R6 was short and easy

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and all weapons got buffs too

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introduced checkpoints which are also a hot topic

mossy aurora
fierce nebula
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well most weapons that were in R6

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some got nerfs afterwards anyway

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but thats more like R7

craggy pier
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r4 revolver vs r5/r6 revolver

modest rock
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what does the numbers under rundown name means?
like [1, -, -, -]

cold quarry
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optional objectives

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if it has a -, there is no optional objective

icy cave
modest rock
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Thanks)

soft crater
craggy pier
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it's actually a buff because you can get a light stagger on first hit if you hit dropoff, then a heavy stagger on headpop

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while getting a headpop on first hit will trigger a heavy stagger canceling the light stagger from second bodyhit if you don't wait for animation reset

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that is if you like to pistol chain stagger

soft crater
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Pistol didn't get buffed past R6- iirc that is.

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Well

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Technically a slightly faster reload

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But not anything notable beyond that.

craggy pier
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i'm literally giving you a scenario where the r6 nerf can be seen a buff

soft crater
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Increased bullet cost?

craggy pier
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you're also more likely to kill strikers in 2 shots

soft crater
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Eh

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If it's a striker. Wouldn't it still be 1 hs + 2 bs.

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Shooters can be 2 shot headshotted

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I don't really see how increased bullet cost affects stagger / damage ngl. Aside from total ammo/damage

craggy pier
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where's the patchnote that said increased bullet cost

soft crater
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Idk how you're getting 2 shot kills on strikers. Unless you're getting double headshot / including back damage or teammates damage weakening them

craggy pier
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so what does increased bullet cost do

soft crater
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That affects ammo

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Like how much a ammo pack gives you

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How much ammo you start with

craggy pier
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so what's the refill in r5 and what's the refill in r6

soft crater
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Idk what r5s refill was

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I know r5 increased pistols stagger by a bit

craggy pier
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that doesn't answer me anything

soft crater
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But increasing the bullet cost. Would reduce pistols ammo

soft crater
craggy pier
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i'm talking about the range nerf

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the patchnote said increased bullet cost but it never received it

soft crater
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6m

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I don't see how that allows you a 2 shot kill on strikers

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The damage numbers don't add up unless you're including back / teammate damage

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Also the initial convo was about gun buffs beyond r5

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Namely all guns essentially reviving a buff/balance

craggy pier
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and all weapons got buffs too

soft crater
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Still doesn't explain how you're 2 shooting strikers

craggy pier
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ok here's the clip, it's uploading

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maybe one day people will actually play the game

soft crater
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From what I'm understanding

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Damage fall off making it do enough damage to not break head

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Then within damage range hit head again

craggy pier
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thanks for regurgitating what I said

soft crater
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If you explained it more precisely

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Yes

craggy pier
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not my fault if you couldn't be bothered to boot up the game and try it out

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again

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range nerf made it so you don't headpop as easily

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no headpop = light stagger

soft crater
craggy pier
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2nd shot to head - headpop - heavy stagger

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or

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shoot head at drop off

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head no pop

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go within range - headpop - striker die

soft crater
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While neat

craggy pier
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that simple enough?

soft crater
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Wouldn't say it's a consistent thing players can do aside from vets/skilled

craggy pier
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literally said it's a scenario, doesn't mean it can be done 24/7

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"a scenario where the range nerf in r6 can be seen as a buff"

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that is literally my point, if you couldn't understand

soft crater
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I understand now with the clip

craggy pier
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thank you

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back to star rail

soft crater
#

Your mentioning of stagger confused me

craggy pier
#

because you can trigger stagger twice

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in 2 quick shots

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while in r5, light stagger can NOT trigger if a heavy stagger animation is playing

soft crater
#

Wasn't really thinking of stagger

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More so the damage numbers

#

I didn't take into account damage after falloff which got me confused

craggy pier
#

i don't care about numbers

soft crater
#

Basically after damage falloff you deal like 9.5 or 9 damage to a striker to the head

craggy pier
#

i don't care about numbers

soft crater
#

Then 11 within damage range

#

And I typed numbers

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Regardless damage numbers would help OTHER people understand better.

craggy pier
#

shoot far head, head no gone, shoot head again but close, die

ocean spindle
#

that is so complicated

civic wave
#

It's not complicated per se, but why would I do that when there's enough ammo to shoot everything in the mission

ocean spindle
#

does a respawn room only respawns stuff when every enemy is dead?

fierce walrus
#

no

#

it respawns any enemies that died

#

if they are to respawn

#

in some levels scouts dont respawn for instance

ocean spindle
#

guess its that then

past mesa
#

And when the timer runs out they check if players are to close then if they are they respawn the room

#

This timer isnโ€™t impacted by players actions at all. Besides the player being responsible for a binary check but this means if you leave a room that is spawn blocking another room the probability that room has respawned is (time spent away/ time of the respawn room interval)

sturdy glen
#

Wow that pistol convo sucked to read

ocean spindle
#

yeah

fierce walrus
#

i am still greatly confuddled by it

sturdy glen
#

I knew about the breakpoint and was still confused

#

Lmfao

tardy ingot
#

it was probably just a badger moment

mossy aurora
#

pistol ๐Ÿ˜ 

dry pumice
#

Who is badger and why you speak of him like he's a hot take factory

craggy pier
#

hes not a hot cake factory ?

dry pumice
#

Notable examples? In tldr form preferably.

tardy ingot
#

artek, sometimes i feel like you cant remember things that happened 3 days ago

#

you already witnessed him multiple times :|

dry pumice
#

That could be the case

tardy ingot
#

badger is banned like 20+ times on this server at this point

mystic canopy
dry pumice
soft crater
#

Jupiter Lfg R8F1

mystic canopy
#

The lag would be terrible

dry pumice
#

Eh, never had an issue. Almost.

civic wave
#

I'd contest that badger isn't a hot take factory, he's a pragmatist, main thing is that a lot of people are at odds with him

hardy grotto
#

made sense to me idk

#

but honestly

#

who uses pistol LOL

#

pistol users LOLOLOL

#

use a better gun

civic wave
#

it's not a terrible gun tbh, but there's better

#

but then again you've played with me, you know how much I used to take pistol shotgun

hardy grotto
#

r5 is different

civic wave
#

I took it for most of r5 and r6 too

#

r6 and r7* god im dumb

tardy ingot
gleaming ledge
#

does anybody know how the 4 players artifact heat realte for a level?

#

What happens if a party starts a level where one player has 70% heat and the others have 100%. Do they just average out?

civic wave
#

your heat is independent of other players, so it doesn't matter who picks up an artefact

#

the person with 70% would get 0.15*0.7 progress while the others would get 0.15*1.0 progress

gleaming ledge
#

got it

#

ty

civic wave
#

literally 1984

lusty bramble
civic wave
#

you may be right, you may be wrong, animosity might be changing the way people speak about one another

#

not my place to care though

lusty bramble
#

that's a completely irrelevant sentiment

#

he has continued to just spout stupid shit and has given me no reason to take him or his opinions seriously

#

it has nothing to do with animosity

civic wave
#

fair

soft crater
fierce nebula
#

personally I use pistols as sex toys

raven owl
#

What in gods name

ocean spindle
#

dont ask

craggy pier
#

JOE MANY LIBERALS OT TAKES TO CHANGE A LIGYBULB?
NONE?!
THEIR TOO BUSY
THEIR GENDER

#

๐Ÿคฃ

ocean spindle
#

GAY AM I RIGHT

#

good

#

gay is good

#

:>

#

be gay

#

skill issue

#

shouldve been bi

#

like me

fierce nebula
#

THEY'RE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN MY ASS THAT TURN MY MIND WOKE

ocean spindle
#

owo

ocean spindle
#

JOE MANY LIBERIALS TAKES TO CHANGE A LIGHTBUKB
BIDEN

dry pumice
#

What is going on gtfo questions

craggy pier
dry pumice
#

Anyway, whoever told me to reduce mouse sensitivity - thanks.

fierce nebula
#

the wokies are ruining gtfo, we need to build a wall

ocean spindle
ocean spindle
#

:]

#

anyways remember u can choose ur pronouns in the Channels and Roles section of the server

fierce nebula
#

I'll do it myself with my cream

ocean spindle
#

and than gtfos codes of conduct says everyone should b treated with respect :3

ocean spindle
#

fair

#

yeah i just hate words

#

im sory u got me

fierce nebula
ocean spindle
#

:[

ocean spindle
median pulsar
#

IS THERE NO WAY TO KICK SOMEONE WHO GOES AFK IN YOUR LOBBY ?

craggy pier
#

nope

median pulsar
#

like we are halfway through our mission and the guy does not leave and just goes afk

#

can i report a cheater anywhere?

silver fable
ocean spindle
silver fable
#

I remember when they nerfed high cal he could be found getting salty about them gutting a balanced gun, then after I wrote my reddit essay on it he set out to try to portray high cal as a cracked gun

fierce nebula
silver fable
#

last time I checked he was doing a similar thing with burst cannon

civic wave
#

what an interesting character

#

surely they know that the majority of the worlds population is not white

#

sure, sure

#

I think the whole woke thing is overblown and people are far too bothered about what other people think

#

what ever happened to the grand indifference of the universe

ocean spindle
#

ok now it stops being funny lets stop

modern ibex
#

LMAO

civic wave
#

I'd prefer if we changed it to a time when dinosaurs didn't exist but ok

ocean spindle
#

this is the point where lets gtfo

#

as in game and as in away

civic wave
#

but yeah no seriously, there's a line that's been crossed

ocean spindle
#

yeah lets go to sleep now

civic wave
#

you cannot and will not get rid of queer people, nothing wrong with being queer, like with many things it's out of your control

ocean spindle
#

im just gonna
GTFOโ€™s Code of Conduct
Never use discriminatory language, including but not limited to references to race, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sex, sexual preference, or religion.

civic wave
#

illness should be considered something that impairs function, not something that's a deviation from the proposed normal

modern ibex
#

gross

civic wave
#

yes, because everything revolves around sex for you people

vague bridge
#

why did we get political

ocean spindle
#

idk, but i am so glad gtfo has that code of conduct

civic wave
#

most places do

modern ibex
#

I don't know, i thought the furry pfp was just memeing

ocean spindle
#

thats really nice for part of 10c

ocean spindle
civic wave
#

most discourse on this sort of stuff is completely stupid and comes from ignorance/parroting what whichever dumb personality says

modern ibex
ocean spindle
#

i mean their pronouns are he they, and like i get it jokin ive done jokes about gay but at some point just

#

went away

#

but whatever lets stop now

#

its reported so

#

nothin to see here

craggy pier
#

lol

ocean spindle
#

gtfo related questions

civic wave
#

I don't sweat it too hard, but it is stupid seeing the same flawed rhetoric over and over

modern ibex
#

Okay I have a GTFO-related question

fierce nebula
ocean spindle
modern ibex
#

Who the fuck decided levels filled with infectious fog were a good idea I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND I'M DYING

ocean spindle
ocean spindle
#

rundown 2 for the win baby

fierce nebula
ocean spindle
#

i am waking up :3

#

i took a nap

turbid horizon
#

We love R2

vague bridge
#

infectious fog is an actual amazing mechanic

modern ibex
#

Bro I'm on D2 and E1 and I cannot fucking wait for this Rundown to be over

vague bridge
#

and nobody can tell me otherwise

ocean spindle
modern ibex
#

I ran 100%+ infection resistance on D1 and it was a godsend

ocean spindle
#

jesus ksmdkm

#

nice

civic wave
#

infectious fog is either you run through it and don't give a fuck, or you give a fuck and have to take it slowly

modern ibex
#

the amount of places you have to just dive into the fog blind absolutely tosses my salad

ocean spindle
#

not the salad qwq

modern ibex
#

despair.gif

#

I would like it more as a mechanic if turbines didn't need to be cradled like a lost child in order to function

#

I guess toggle switches went out of style in 2050

#

frog repellers powered by a fucking single AAA battery

vague bridge
#

fog is supposed to be something you have to work around

ocean spindle
#

i just like to think the turbine just has the mechanic on the bottom so if u put it down it blocks it and u can put it any other way cause it breaks

#

cause thats just funny skdmkms

modern ibex
#

LOL

vague bridge
#

but if you wish to plow straight through fog zones youre free to do that as well

#

fog doesn't kill you

modern ibex
vague bridge
#

so its more of a suggestion than a solid wall

civic wave
#

it's not something to work around generally, more something to slow you down

#

there isn't really "working around", because you don't have options

modern ibex
#

If thermals worked in fog it would still be killing you the entire time you're in it, and you can't see anything else. If Turbines worked when you set them down it's still a very small area compared to the area you ideally want to see

vague bridge
#

r2d1 is a good example

#

cluster levels in general really

modern ibex
#

R2D1 was absolutely awful imo. I thought the mechanic was frustrating and relied far too heavily on either having a sacrifical lamb to fog dive, having good boosters, or knowing the map layout ahead of time

dry pumice
#

Fog turbines are literally "you are now 3 people instead of 4"

#

He just stands there

modern ibex
#

I'm playing solo too it's basically like I have to pick up the fog turbine and whisper affirmations to it so that I can see and fight again

civic wave
#

fog turbine skill ceiling

#

knowing how/when to move

vague bridge
#

if you're diving right into one of the fog zones then you did it wrong

modern ibex
#

I mean from what I could tell, no matter the order you do things you will HAVE to go through fog zones at one point

vague bridge
#

you don't need to memorize the map, just think about top down

modern ibex
#

and the final fight fills up the entire generator room with fog regardless

#

I did like the lowering fog mechanic, the order of operations was for sure the best part of that level

vague bridge
#

that was the whole gimmick of the level

modern ibex
#

Yeah that was nice. It felt rewarding to get it just a bit lower each time

vague bridge
#

yeah

tardy ingot
#

Also have fun with r2e1 solo (โ€žrebalancedโ€œ) since you gotta carry a lot of things for a long time

modern ibex
silver fable
#

yeah out-of-order zone openings does get punished in r2d1

#

imo it sucks

tardy ingot
#

I mean the level doesnt force you to go into the opened zones

#

Its a lot of planning ahead

#

and then adapting

silver fable
#

it does, cells

tardy ingot
#

no, if you open a door you cant go into due to fog

#

then you do another

#

or fog dive

silver fable
#

no, because you spent a cell to open that door, and the zone you popped refunds the cell you need to open the other zone

tardy ingot
#

what

#

fn

#

thats the ressource zone

modern ibex
#

That's not how that mission works, only one door costs a cell

tardy ingot
#

you dont need cells for doors

modern ibex
#

tbf two doors take keys so you HAVE to do those in order

tardy ingot
#

are you thinking of r7c2?

modern ibex
#

but for the most part I agree with Eva

silver fable
#

ohh okay, I guess I misremember this

#

they're blood doors I guess?

#

or alarm scan doors

modern ibex
#

Yeah lots of blood doors

tardy ingot
#

R2D1 is a drag yes

modern ibex
#

and a few scans

tardy ingot
#

but its better rn

#

og was hell

#

way more fog diving

#

also, playing solo (even if rebalanced) is gonna impact it

silver fable
#

hm, I'll need to go have another look at the level

modern ibex
#

Yeah, fog diving is way worse in solo cause you can't sacrifice 1/4 of your power to learn a layout or get key items

craggy pier
#

4 big guys

modern ibex
#

idk my opinion on the level is skewed by the fact that I'm pretty over infectious fog and the more I see levels that revolve around it the more I want to be done with this rundown

tardy ingot
#

infectous fog is very overused in r2

#

since it was new then

silver fable
#

r2d1 is probably one of the bigger offenders

tardy ingot
#

its far better in later levels

#

its the same for all new mechanics they introduce

modern ibex
#

Yeah, that makes sense. I thought it was used a lot more sparingly and well in R3

#

and it was almost always accompanied by turbines

turbid horizon
#

R2D1 is cool

potent portal
#

yeah I dunno if it was r6 or r7 when they were new but I also felt the infectious fog diving was super obnoxious when it was just me, a buddy and 2 bots since you can't command when bots pick stuff up or use it

ocean spindle
#

bots where introducted by r6

potent portal
#

i meant the fog in those levels when they were new

craggy pier
turbid horizon
#

Skill issue tbh

sick hornet
#

guys

#

did it happen to anyone else that bot just kills you cause he refuses to scan?

#

like stand in team scan

#

like he legit refused

#

even after commands

#

and running out of room and back in

ocean spindle
#

when that happens u can press esc, kick the bot, and add em back in

#

or just keep em out until the scans done

frigid meadow
#

so apparently when i spam the shove key it kills my frame rate, anyone else get this happening to them?

floral acorn
frigid meadow
#

unless all torsos somehow cause it

floral acorn
#

can only remember a newish new torso that was broken with wrists etc, havent heard elsewhere any shove related..

frigid meadow
#

if not no stress

floral acorn
#

will do now its discussed np

fallow fox
#

WHERE ARE ALL THE PLAYERS!!???

ocean spindle
#

rn the lfg channels

#

or asleep

#

tbh it is kinda late-ish at least over here

fallow fox
#

IT'S ONLY 10:30!!!!!!

#

COME OOOONNNNN!!!!! LEEEEETTTT'SSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ocean spindle
#

ok calm down

sick hornet
#

it's almost 8 am cat woke me up PepoCry trying to sleep more

ocean spindle
#

lmao ksmdkm

fallow fox
#

COOOMMEEE OOONNNNNNNNNNNNN

#

PLAAYYYY WITH M<EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

upper ginkgo
#

mood

sick hornet
#

no i'm trying to sleep again + the level you trying to do peepochrist i just succeeded it two days ago idk if i'm rdy to go suffer again

fallow fox
#

YOU AIN't GON SLEEP ROUND HEEEERRRREEE.......

fierce walrus
#

if you want to do R4E1

#

aka hardest level in the game

#

good luck finding people

lone mortar
fierce walrus
#

yeah thats what i mean

fallow fox
#

JOIN us or you ARE a WEAK SOY BOY

next socket
#

What order do you do R4C3 (Cuernos) objectives in?

past mesa
#

Sec overload main for easy method

next socket
#

Yeah.. I just did overload.. and I uhh.. figured overload is NOT the first objective you're supposed to do

past mesa
#

It can be cause you skip the class 6 shadow alarm

past mesa
#

If you donโ€™t have 5 of them on the map

#

You donโ€™t have enough to clear the level

next socket
#

huh'

#

seriously?

#

I only had four

past mesa
#

Yeah there is a soft lock

next socket
#

lmao hwhat

past mesa
#

Only if you do secondar first

#

Overload first fixes it cause you get an extra cell

next socket
#

But why does it sometimes not spawn a 5th cell

#

why is there that rng

past mesa
#

Shadow zone in secondary sometimes doesnโ€™t spawn a cell

#

I donโ€™t know why I have hunches but it is a common bug when there just isnโ€™t a consistent spot for the big pick up to spwn

#

R2e1 has this issue with a dog turbine

next socket
#

Does secondary have infectious fog covering it?

past mesa
#

Only the first scan

next socket
#

Sounds like doing secondary just makes the whole level easier

past mesa
#

I think it makes main easier

#

At the very least

#

The error alarm from overload is nasty

next socket
#

It turns main into a speedrun, for sure

past mesa
#

Yeah you playing it with bots still?

#

The last section is pretty nasty tbh

next socket
#

Idk how to kill tanks /w bots, so

#

I've been avoiding it

past mesa
#

Honestly I would just 8 mine it

next socket
#

lol

past mesa
#

for this one

next socket
#

yeah

#

I didn't know there was a tank (I was going in blind)

#

And so I just got rolled

past mesa
#

Unfo

craggy pier
next socket
craggy pier
#

Oof

#

Yeah just mine the tank

soft crater
#

curious

#

for cosmetics

#

are the Fortis pieces in-game?

craggy pier
#

fourgs on the jeep

soft crater
#

just curious wondering if I missed a limited time event I didn't know about

craggy pier
#

no they random

soft crater
#

hmm

#

I want the pants for it then lowkey

#

It's Roughneck MDR cargo but with a pattern

craggy pier
#

i dont even know what pants im using rn

#

but i do have both roughneck and the fortis pants

obtuse ether
#

ะŸะพะนะดั‘ั‚ ะบั‚ะพ ะธะณั€ะฐั‚ัŒ?

soft crater
#

most people seem to just wear MDR cargo since it has the pack and pistol hostler and knee pads

#

at least once they obtain it

craggy pier
#

those looked sexy with miracle pallete

#

Model W Hyperseal ๐Ÿคค

#

why is r4c3 so fucking hard

turbid horizon
craggy pier
#

main only

turbid horizon
#

Itโ€™s definitely up there as one of the harder levels, even on main

craggy pier
#

solo + bots is FUCKING HELL hard

turbid horizon
#

Well yeah

#

Bots are shit at fighting chargers

#

You really will struggle unless youโ€™re incredibly fucking skilled with bots

craggy pier
turbid horizon
#

That too lmao

craggy pier
#

i want my cosmetics

turbid horizon
#

I assume you use that azert?

craggy pier
#

you still get cosmetics

#

level dont complete themselves

#

when r2modman

craggy pier
turbid horizon
#

Yeah

#

:(

craggy pier
#

dude straight up doing more work than the devs

craggy pier
neon gust
craggy pier
neon gust
#

That 10% was funny tho

#

I shoulda saved that dll

craggy pier
#

that was fun

#

all i had to do is give ammo

#

bots doing scans then im officially a backseat gamer

soft crater
#

where Mod where bots just autonomously complete the level for me

lone mortar
#

Ez pz

soft crater
proud iron
#

Is there a way to make the bots replace the resources they have on? Was doing R3C1 with them died at the start of the error alarm because all 3 bots tried to heal me with their medpacks and I couldnโ€™t shoot since they were blocking me :/

craggy pier
#

no you cant, bots will prioritize
1-meds
2-ammo
3-tool
4-disinfect

#

they wont stop until they heal you

next socket
modern ibex
next socket
#

The chargers also rush yo ass which makes them pull out their melee too and take a shit ton of damage, making them also use their resources and waste more time and take more damage

#

The strategy, unfortunately, is actually to make sure they DON'T have resources to give our before you do the error alarm lol

#

Shoot a wall and take fall damage repeatedly until they consume it all

craggy pier
#

bots dying to a single charger while using a 5 use med prisonerefficiency

proud iron
#

I mean the only thing i could think of was shooting a bot to force the others to use em but I donโ€™t want to start using random medpacks and somehow ending up with one use

next socket
#

You won't need the spare ammo since that's the last section of the game

#

Er- expedition*

#

R3D1 is easier with bots lol

modern ibex
#

Oh R3D1 final hallway UGH

next socket
#

I did R3D1 in 3-4 attempts bots only, R3C1 took like 10 lmfao

vague bridge
#

that reminds me

#

if you have a bot chasing you with resources

proud iron
#

Lmao sounds good iโ€™mma try C1 again and make sure they donโ€™t have all medpacks to troll me

vague bridge
#

and you down them

#

do they recalculate who actually needs the resources or do they go back to giving you

modern ibex
proud iron
#

They will prio players iโ€™m sure

next socket
#

@proud iron try taking HEL rifle

#

1 shot penetration for chargers ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

proud iron
#

The bots ditch their own to keep you alive

vague bridge
ocean spindle
#

so if u like shoot em down, they dont see they need health, they see u need health

#

at thats just always

vague bridge
#

im saying in situations where somebody else needs the resource

#

but you were closer

ocean spindle
#

ah in a duo i guess, then yeah idk

craggy pier
# vague bridge ?

if bots are locked into giving you resources they wont consider other options until the limit

vague bridge
#

so shooting them down does nothing?

craggy pier
#

nope

vague bridge
#

awh

fickle raven
#

quick question: do Aggressive SPW-D RQ/20 and Aggressive STW-D RQ/16 exist?

ocean spindle
#

:]?

fickle raven
#

Boosters

#

according to the wiki, they are a possible combination, however I don't seem to ever find it...

ocean spindle
#

think ive seen em a couple times

#

i mean, i think i have one so yeah

#

aggresives are just way harder to, find a specific one

fickle raven
#

true tho

ocean spindle
#

well if u want special or main dmg u can also stack bold n muted ones

fickle raven
#

mhm

past mesa
#

Idk if anyone knows them by their names besides just detox and provisions

fierce nebula
#

I just say "main gun damage boost" but you do you

neon gust
#

Your not real

#

Who are these people

#

We need to demand a UI change

past mesa
#

Tbh who the fucked named them spell-d rn/20

next socket
past mesa
#

Yeah better name is what they do

#

But boy do I love my kovax peacemaker

fierce nebula
#

"peacemaker"

#

"that is a gun"

#

"exactly"

past mesa
#

Isnโ€™t it the bat

#

My baby drill head ๐Ÿ˜

fierce walrus
#

peacemaker is bat

neon gust
stuck elm
#

Boosters be like LiG / M4

+120% hacking skill
-98% Infection Resistance

soft crater
#

What kinda fog diver booster is that

fierce nebula
#

LiG / M4

#

more like

#

Ligma

modern ibex
#

Who the hell is Steve Jobs?

neon gust
#

Lig/ma balls

spark wolf
#

what if i did

soft crater
neon gust
spark wolf
#

my immune system might be weak but its not that weak

soft crater
#

Diagnosed with Bullpup/PR virus

#

Hmm

bitter heron
#

Hello, it is possible to play at more than 4 players with a mod ?

modern ibex
bitter heron
#

where can i find this server ?

craggy pier
uneven gulchBOT
# bitter heron where can i find this server ?

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

bitter heron
#

ok thank you !

craggy pier
#

any time

still spindle
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Hi! Sorry new player here! Just finished R1A1 with some friends and we saw that there are secondary and overload objectives. Are there any specific criteria to trigger them? Or are we only allowed to do the main objective the first time and later we unlock the "right" to play for the other ones?

fickle mulch
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r1 doesn't have any though afiak

ocean spindle
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those sectors will appear from r4 from up there so no worries about em now

still spindle
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Ah ok thank you! We were wondering if we were playing wrong and wanted to catch it early. ๐Ÿ˜„

ocean spindle
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nah is ok :]
when u click on a mission and see that lil square pop up, u can see it has main , if it has also another like secondary it means it has different sectors than can b played on the level

craggy pier
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anyone have a video for sprint jumping with objective items

icy cave
halcyon mango
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how do you use the hel shotgun. The dmg falloff and dispersion feels horrendous unless you get right up in their faces, which usually also leads to me taking a bunch of unnecessary damage.

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Heard a bunch of people say it's good for staggering hordes in a chokepoint

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but the times I tried it, had the same deal with getting hit a bunch

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so just wanna know if anybody proficient in it can have some tips

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I usually try to get close with it, and try to fill up the aiming reticle as much as possible to avoid getting trolled by the dispersion

craggy pier
craggy pier
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once 2-3 get close u can spam

craggy pier
halcyon mango
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I've been using it like semi-auto

craggy pier
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full auto no ads

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you get enough ammo so you dont have to worry about that

halcyon mango
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I'll try spamming more then

craggy pier
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yeah

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enemies will disappear quickly

halcyon mango
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It doesn't feel right not getting a 1 shot 1 kill with shotgun

craggy pier
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its a crowd control killing machine

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staggers and pellets will penetrate enemies and hit anything behind it

soft crater
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is it another newcomer saying hel shotgun bad?

ocean spindle
# halcyon mango so just wanna know if anybody proficient in it can have some tips

if ur gettin hit by enemies while usin it, chances r ur not using it right
hel shottie has above average stagger, which means when u see an enemy that is gonna dmg u, u can shoot it, stagger it and keep going, this is how u push a way, u just keep and keep shootin the wave until u need to reload
u dont need to b inside of the horde, u can take some steps back and the pellet dispersion will juust hit more enemies in the horde

halcyon mango
ocean spindle
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is fair, hel shottie is tricky

halcyon mango
ocean spindle
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u can probs close the distance if its one and u just wanna convert that big into dust, plus the staggerin should keep u safe, so go up to its torso and spam the bitch
dont try headshot with this guns its, useless KMSKDMK

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its made for bodyshots

halcyon mango
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I see. My issue was probably just not firing it fast enough and trying to place my shots, so enemies werent getting staggered enough

ocean spindle
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yeah, with an automatic like machinepistol firing bursts can b understandable, but unless u wanna like shoot one dude in front of u, its almost always to just go full auto

craggy pier
dry pumice
robust lintel
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you can also just react to striker tongue glows

ocean spindle
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yeah whe they lean forward and do the funny noise

past mesa
soft crater
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Desync : How about "No"

fierce nebula
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game needs a ping counter

topaz heron
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What level has shadows close to drop?
I wanna test some things

sturdy glen
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r5d2

topaz heron
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thx

lone mortar
past star
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And you can get one hit kills if you rotate to their back when the go for a lick

tardy ingot
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if you play hel shotgun like a semi auto when theres more than 2 enemys then idk what you are doing

lucid sonnet
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Are enemy spawns during alarms affected by existing enemies in the rooms of spawn or path they take? Group is unsure if clearing up to 2 rooms away (that may otherwise be unnecessary to visit) is a good idea before doing alarms.

brisk pewter
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How to gavel?

hidden ridge
craggy pier
hidden ridge
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At least that's what I understood since they were talking about r7a1 so I assumed they were talking about carrying the neonate faster

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For the record no I've never done that before

craggy pier
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so by using a macro its near perfect?

hidden ridge
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Ask the speedrunners I guess ๐Ÿ˜„

olive sorrel
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hey hey , i got a question : what does GTFO stand for ?

craggy pier
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get the F out

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but the devs dont want you to believe it

olive sorrel
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hahahah that's noice

brisk zephyr
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i am very new and have spent 3 hours trying to beat r1a1, should i be trying a different rundown or is r1a1 the recommended beginning level?

solemn flint
fierce walrus
brisk zephyr
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thanks, i wasn't sure whether the rundowns were in order or not so ma and my friends just kept dying over and over again in r1a1

modern ibex
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For what it's worth, I would keep trying at R1A1 and just ask questions and/or try to zero in on what's stopping you guys up

fierce walrus
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but also dont burn yourself out

modern ibex
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R1A1 is probably one of the best starters in the game so going into another level because you're struggling on R1A1 isn't going to help you in the long run

brisk zephyr
fierce walrus
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thats unlucky

modern ibex
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That is unlucky.

brisk zephyr
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yeah i think another problem is that we keep choosing the wrong weapons

solemn flint
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there are no such thing as wrong weapon

brisk zephyr
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theres a tentacle guy we cant kill in one shot 100% of the time

modern ibex
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I mean choosing weapons that are hard for beginners or have bad ammo economy can certainly make it harder @solemn flint

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If you run DMRxSniper as a first time player without being able to reliably one-tap sleepers is a speedrun strat for running out of ammo constantly

solemn flint
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still no

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its all come down to skill

modern ibex
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I mean... yeah that's what I'm saying

brisk zephyr
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theres a sniper?

solemn flint
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if u dont know how to aim

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then yea, dmr+sniper will be a trash loadout

modern ibex
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If you're not used to the movement patterns of sleepers it is extremely difficult to land quality hits on them which you need to do with precision weapons like that

modern ibex
# brisk zephyr theres a sniper?

Yes! It's a special weapon that has super good precision damage. It's typically used to deal with high health units via headshots, but has a very low ammo capacity

solemn flint
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league of legends player that have to predict skill 100% of the time be like

brisk zephyr
solemn flint
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but techniclly bullet speed is fast enough

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so, its all come down to skill