understood.
#gtfo-related-questions
pure prairie
stuck elm
Crossposted from #gtfo-spoiler-chat
Guys this is a real life question. In R5D1 Extreme, ||when you have to do the cell hunt and go to 508, can the tank spawn in the first room (A)?||
If it can, then gg imma go kms.
dusky tiger
Crossposted from <#714910123277025421>
Guys this is a real life question. In R...
don't think so
closest I've seen in my runs is the second room*
rose stump
What do you think are the most efficient single fire primary 's?
ocean spindle
single fire? semi automatic?
ocean spindle
it oke
hel revo, if u can like line up enemies n such cause it has penetration
dmr with any dmg booster cause it oneshots any smol enemy so its 89 kills for its full ammo
maybe pistol, cause two shots strikers, but idk shooters, tho not more than dmr with booster...
those r the more efficient i think
sawed off has too many lil bullets u would need to kill 2 enemies with a single shot every time, rifle has a lil less total dmg, and double tab shoots in bursts so
but it is not really, as important any of this, in exchange if u feel ok with ur gun
cause i cant use hel revo for the life of me but i love a pistol
so i always pick the pistol cause i aim bette with it n such
rose stump
Thanks I really liked the pistol, but the range I'm not a fan of. I've been using choke shotty secondary, but I suppose I could switch it. I'm just not a full auto guy. I like power shots. But still need close range WTF moment weapon.
ocean spindle
yeah pistol is kinda mid range but i like it, oneshot body, stagger, headshot n its ded and i cant do that from fay away ksmdkm
but if u wants range double tap, dmr n rifle all have nice range, hel revo is more so medium but it still works good enough
sawed off range is abysmal but its a very fun weapon for closequarters ksmdkm
rose stump
I'll try them out more , thank you!
rose stump
What tou say is a good pair with it?
silver fable
anything
ocean spindle
undisputed best semi main
i dispute it
not without a basis
i just dont like it
:]
a good par for hel revo
anythin yeah kinda
i guess i would go for somethin if im overwhelmed, but hel revos reload is kinda very fast if u cancel it, so its not necessary
silver fable
What tou say is a good pair with it?
I guess the thing to be said here is that there's can be cases for synergy main picks for certain specials, like pistol or rifle pairing well with hel gun
ocean spindle
tho i guess i would go for somethin with more mag size
silver fable
but usually you'll pick your special in order to fulfil a role in the team, and there is no special with which pairing hel revo could be regarded as a mistake
silver fable
i just dont like it
my duos partner is also not a fan
but he recognizes how strong it is in an objective sense
ocean spindle
i dont like
silver fable
ya I don't get it either
ocean spindle
its weird and i dont like sight a lot, i guess its just feel
the recoild the firerate it all comes together so i miss every bullet and i dont enjoy missin every bullet
ocean spindle
also havin to reload cancel every reload cause otherwise is slow as fuck kinda just, i man i do it with every gun but, with that one i overthink it
idk why
i guess cause its vital
for it
hardy grotto
you get used to it
silver fable
its weird and i dont like sight a lot, i guess its just feel
the sight becomes one of the best in the game imo when you're used to it
ocean spindle
i usually go for automatics, not for semis always
and when i pick semis they r the ones i like
dmr double tab sawed
hardy grotto
dmr sight is the worst
hardy grotto
it’s horrible
ocean spindle
we both can say it KMSKDMK
its not bad i think its just a bad yellowish n thats it
but i do like double tabs sight more
even if its tiny
silver fable
I used to like dmr more, but it's kind of a chore going into ads and back with that gun for me now
whereas hel revo ads is very nimble
hardy grotto
only rundown I used dmr was og r5
silver fable
I basically never hipfire hel revo
silver fable
it's just too easy to slip into ads with hel revo
stuck elm
I hipfire if they're in range.
silver fable
no reason to allow hip spread to place your bullet off target when ads is basically free
ocean spindle
'nuhnuh hipfire pdw is so good i swear' yes but why no fuck u im aim down sights
otherwise it feels w r o n g
hardy grotto
only guns I rlly hipfire are shotguns
silver fable
hipfire was the secret to unlocking veruta for me
I had so much skill issue with veruta until I realized you could hipfire it
like, even my ads with veruta got way better
ocean spindle
i cant with any i need to aim down sights ksmdkm
i guess..... hel shottie? but only very few times
silver fable
sadly I've forgotten how to hipfire shotguns due to sway bug
sturdy glen
slide if youre sprinting
silver fable
if you can't quickswap into a shot without ads, then what's the point of hipfiring it?
sturdy glen
otherwise quickscope or just dont pull it out quickly
ocean spindle
a funny
i only felt it on reloads
silver fable
basically the swap animation must be complete before your shot will land on-target
ocean spindle
tbh i see it funny
cause i take automatics i miss some shots but i never think about it too much
its just funny and sometimes it can look very cool
silver fable
only afflicts shotguns
silver fable
if you're actually trying to do something challenging, losing shells to sway bug can be disastrous
it just seems kinda hostile and anti-player
like, I felt like I was getting gaslit when I fired up r7 for the first time
sturdy glen
its a realism thing the player wont notice so it should just be removed
silver fable
we never got clarification on whether it's a bug or a feature
if it's a feature, it just adds a fraction of a second to the pull-out time for shotguns, and encourages people to always ads your cool hipfire gun
if they thought quickswap shotgun was too good, they could've prevented the gun from firing until the swap animation is done I guess
silver fable
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/714910123277025421/9880513357463...
yeah I remember that
mossy aurora
probably not a feature with a response like that
silver fable
I could see it being a thing where doc wasn't in the loop on the change yet
I guess replace "clarification" with "confirmation"
zenith granite
is the shelling s49 good?
icy cave
pistol?
silver fable
pistol loses its 1head+2body striker kill at midrange which isn't ideal, but it has 15 staggers per clip and crazy ammo efficiency
and good reload
I guess its main issue now is that it's kind-of a worse rifle, as long as you don't mind giving up some ammo (I wouldn't mind)
stuck elm
Are there levels where tilesets change between different runs? I was doing R5A3 Overload today and the zone with the 2nd bulklhead key was completely different from a previous run.
silver fable
iirc it's rare (in that almost all zone layouts in a rundown won't change, but if you find some rooms that do change then those rooms will change frequently), and almost certainly a bug when it arises
but yes it's known to happen
I wasn't aware of it happening in r5a3, but I haven't spent much time in that level yet
stuck elm
Yeah and an interesting point is that when I ran the level a couple weeks ago, the zone was different like I said, and the terminal was in the first room immediately after the security door. It was crooked and sitting just in plain sight, like it didn't generate correctly. The zone had all of the stuff in it (resources, key, and cell), but the terminal looked weird and the tiles were totally different refinery tiles from what I saw earlier today.
Legit thought it was an scp upon opening the door.
stuck elm
Yeah I think I remember seeing scaler's video of that and you actually said the zone was different for the mom, lol.
icy cave
Yeah I think I remember seeing scaler's video of that and you actually said the ...
R7D1 also has some rooms changing up
stuck elm
It's kind of cool even if it's a bug. It's interesting to see what the rooms change to.
tardy ingot
R7D1 also has some rooms changing up
It does?
spice ridge
what happens if you trigger 2 scouts simultaneously, do they spawn double the enemies?
cold quarry
yes
silver fable
spawn cap allowing
though the ones that don't spawn because of cap will bank up until some die
icy cave
It does?
Yes, on the sneak side, the large room before the tank zone. and the tank zone itself
tardy ingot
?
i have not seen that change once in r7d1 dna
always the pillar room into tank zone wide room. With specific rooms left and right on small doors
icy cave
i have not seen that change once in r7d1 dna
Lemme check if I have it recorded
icy cave
always the pillar room into tank zone wide room. With specific rooms left and ri...
No we had the pillar room change where it had two platforms you could climb on/get up on.
icy cave
There's tank zone in 7d1?....
yes, sneak part. go left
cold quarry
yeah that was a fun surprise, first time seeing a tank
icy cave
always the pillar room into tank zone wide room. With specific rooms left and ri...
And tank zone also had an added part in the middle room
icy cave
i have not seen that change once in r7d1 dna
You in luck !
got it on recording
Nik is even commenting on it
sending you
tardy ingot
icy cave
<:musicmommyInspect:1027722389242527755>
have your mind blown 🤯
hidden ridge
OG R5B2 Had a weird glitch were there was a 100% new zone in Extreme sometimes
as in, sometimes there was a sec door with another zone
bizzarre but fun
sacred dew
GTFO level Builder be weird sometimes xP
past mesa
I love when marker seeding changes half way through level generation
dusky tiger
is there any point taking the arbalest over the veruta?
wooden karma
if you think arbalest is more fun
ocean spindle
if u cant control the recoild of the veruta
dry pumice
is there any point taking the arbalest over the veruta?
Far less recoil - easier to aim and control, the holo-sight basically blocks nothing and so you have a window-like view of everything in front of you when ADSing.
Basically its just more convenient to use on about all fronts.
sturdy glen
and then theres har
dry pumice
And of course the aesthetic of bigger heavy gun. Its like comparing M249 to M60, at least in video game terms.
i only wish it didn't look like a goddamn stub in first person
but this is GTFO, guns looking cool is not our thing
much unfortunately
fringe elm
GTFO HAS to let any combination of weapon tho
Customization with attachments and such
icy cave
GTFO HAS to let any combination of weapon tho
it has to do nothing. after R8 they wrap up and call it a day.
dry pumice
Customization with attachments and such
It seems that its what they wanted, but in the end it was scrapped. Every weapon we get is a pre-baked model that they have to assemble somewhere on their side.
fringe elm
It seems that its what they wanted, but in the end it was scrapped. Every weapon...
Ah, thats too bad! Good game regardless, I think if they stopped updating it player base would drop dramatically.
rocky dragon
They'll probably be done after R8, player base is already decently low and they've been coming out with content since 2019
ocean spindle
decently low
i mean, i guess, theres tons of people when a new rundown comes out
no
soft crater
i only wish it didn't look like a goddamn stub in first person
imean guns viewmodel is based around 55 fov
fierce nebula
idk about you guys but I can see in 210 fov irl
halcyon haven
What are the pros and cons of the different weapons? I've heard that hammer is arguably the best but what about the knife or the spear? what are the arguments for using other weapons?
ocean spindle
people type at the speed of light
fierce nebula
spear is noob friendly
knife is great at killing smalls
bat is a nice middle ground between knife and hammer where it can stun a lot
noble sierra
Knife: you can sprint and kill 10 smalls w/o taking a breath.
Spear: range.
ocean spindle
both of those :]
mossy aurora
imagine everyone is riding motorcycles and someone rolls up with a tricycle or a bike with training wheels, thats what spear is
ocean spindle
What are the pros and cons of the different weapons? I've heard that hammer is a...
spear is nice n long range, its just made for stealth cause it hits headshots and it kills scouts very easily, also being very good againts big enemies in general both combat and stealth, the con being u cant run with it so in combat its not worth, and since u need headshots with movin enemies its worse
knife is really nice in combat, since it can take many enemies very fast, but with big bois it really struggles, it can kill scouts in an awkward way [hittin the back of the head] and in stealth is pretty much ok, tho u can miss cause of the angle the hit comes from so it takes some time to get used to it
bat is yeah middle ground, faster than hamemr but weaker dmg, its ok for stealth since if u fail a headshot [since it needs headshots too for the low dmg] u can recover by staggerin the enemy since it has a big stagger multiplier, and with bigs its fine as long as u have a team or bots to also hit it while u hit it cause u keep it staggered, a very coop weapon. with scouts its same as knife tho a bit easier since the hit comes in a much more comfortable angle
civic wave
Spear sucks and cripples your movement, the range isn't enough to make up for that
Knife mows down small fellows
Hammer does everything
Bat is pretty much hammer jr
turbid horizon
nah bat is it’s own thing
fierce nebula
duality of GTFO nerds
turbid horizon
It’s got the lock 1 taps and less stam consumption
civic wave
Which generally aren't too important
ocean spindle
duality of GTFO nerds
ikr ksdmkm
covert remnant
I will become Spear enthusiast.
ocean spindle
the two types of players in gtfo
covert remnant
Which primary weapon was the bottom of the barrel?
And which special weapon was the bottom of the barrel?
turbid horizon
Which primary weapon was the bottom of the barrel?
And which special weapon wa...
Oh boy here comes the flame war
fierce nebula
Which primary weapon was the bottom of the barrel?
And which special weapon wa...
machine pistol for primary
if thats where it was
ocean spindle
do the cryo loadout, spear bullpup precision rifle and auto sentry
covert remnant
I thought people really liked the machine pistol.
ocean spindle
thats the true gtfo experience
ocean spindle
I thought people really liked the machine pistol.
it is great
yeah its still great
civic wave
Machine pistol is solid
civic wave
Shit range, but solid
turbid horizon
:3
civic wave
Pistol is cool
ocean spindle
pistol is cool
turbid horizon
Or smg
civic wave
Not exceptional but
noble sierra
SMG is a good competetor
turbid horizon
Or bullpup
covert remnant
do the cryo loadout, spear bullpup precision rifle and auto sentry
I was kinda thinking this was the loadout.
I guess bullpup because reload time is too long compared to damage output?
And precision rifle is just too weak?
ocean spindle
I was kinda thinking this was the loadout.
I guess bullpup because reload time...
precision rifle has not great dmg for, bigs, and the reload takes ages and its juts a bit more powerful than a dmr really
bullpups reload hurts every second and even tho range n recoil r good enough the dmg isnt really justifyin it
ocean spindle
Doesn’t mean I can’t say they’re meh
qwq u listed pistol that isnt meh
turbid horizon
i mean it is
ocean spindle
is assault rifle meh
covert remnant
I am legitimately pistol enthusiast. 
ocean spindle
pistol is very neutral, but not meh
covert remnant
You can also find me in #lfg-beginners, so not like I actually know anything.
turbid horizon
Cuz pdw is literally just better
civic wave
If the gun is good enough it can serve you well
ocean spindle
Compared to pdw
i mean every autmatic is so i guess every weapon in gtfo is meh
turbid horizon
There is 0 contest
turbid horizon
Nah u know what i mean
ocean spindle
yes ill still slap u
turbid horizon
AR is strictly worse PDW
ocean spindle
:3
covert remnant
I just like pistol because it reloads fast.
turbid horizon
other than range
ocean spindle
it doesnt gimme rights to not slap u
civic wave
Very chill gun and it does enough
turbid horizon
And i can stand the scope (fuck pdw scope)
fierce nebula
sighs and unzips
silver fable
It’s got the lock 1 taps and less stam consumption
lock 1 taps
this is what hel revo is for
mossy aurora
its not a waste, you're opening the lock...
silver fable
^this
turbid horizon
> lock 1 taps
this is what hel revo is for
*Burst cannon
ocean spindle
its not a waste, you're opening the lock...
if u open lock and find 4 foam mines i bet u would take that back
turbid horizon
4?
ocean spindle
specifically 4
turbid horizon
That’s impossible
silver fable
caring about wasting ammo on locks is some real intermediate player energy
hallow saddle
if 5 bullets used on locks makes or breaks your run you were doomed from the start
ocean spindle
ok i feel like i am gettin taken seriously ksmdkm
no obv not
i was jokin shootin a lock does nothin to a run
hallow saddle
I like being told that you can't duo kill a charger scout. explaining how to do it. then the person hitting it in the back and calling me stupid.
my question is, why?
ocean spindle
thats a weird, thing to like
hallow saddle
thats a weird, thing to like
I like it because it's ironic and funny.
ocean spindle
i dont like bein called stupid qwq
hallow saddle
I do. It makes me feel a sense of normalcy.
I consider it to be a "you're like me" statement that lets me know i've been socially accepted.
soft crater
Imo. Shooting locks depends on the weapon/level
Next to which melee you run
It's a small bit faster that in most cases is not worth
ocean spindle
if u only had bat uwu
soft crater
Bat is a hit or miss whether or not "Intermediate players" can use it effectively
This is more than just locks. But if it's purely locks. It's the fastest since you don't need to charge.
(I say this in the sense. You may not always have the time to multi hit/charge with other melee to break a lock before a enemy reaches you
ocean spindle
im jokin its ok ksmdkm im sorry
soft crater
While intermediate players exists. Shooting locks is situational and I wouldn't tie it to them.
craggy pier
caring about wasting ammo on locks is some real intermediate player energy
i think hes already having a bad time being a rookie
lone mortar
While intermediate players exists. Shooting locks is situational and I wouldn't ...
So you on the shoot lock side or swing it side
soft crater
as I said it's situational. but as most vets are. meleeing them just as easy/saves ammo
soft crater
next to also. It depends on what weapon are you using to shoot the lock
When I'm thinking of shooting a Lock. It's something like Helrevo or DMR since they oneshot locks
craggy pier
what about hel shotty
soft crater
and to be fair Azert. My opinion of intermediate players. wouldn't be within making 7 shot kills with AR on a striker
and most newcomers say hel shotty is bad
not a fair comparision
craggy pier
as an advanced intermediate player i claim the moral high ground of just shoot the lock regardless (machine pistol)
soft crater
craggy pier
and for the hel shotty comment mad cuz bad
soft crater
I stated newcomers.
craggy pier
yeah thats what i was referring to
soft crater
for intermediates. it's hit or miss whether they like or dislike it
covert remnant
What would be an intermediate player? Is that like in between noob and vet?
craggy pier
hel shotty is an amazing main weapon that shouldnt be in that slot
ocean spindle
What would be an intermediate player? Is that like in between noob and vet?
somethin like, 266.9 hours, to say a random number
craggy pier
the amount of ammo damage and crowd control you get is through the roof
covert remnant
somethin like, 266.9 hours, to say a random number
Sounds legit.
craggy pier
What would be an intermediate player? Is that like in between noob and vet?
more familiar with the game, doesnt suck at the basics and sometimes can be of value
covert remnant
Ah. Don't think I'm there yet. 😢
soft crater
iirc bug hunter/testers or some shit need less or around 100 hours since it's the given average player hour count aside from vets who have hundreds/thousands of hours
lone mortar
as I said it's situational. but as most vets are. meleeing them just as easy/sav...
Same (based)
covert remnant
They told me spear and bullpup were the best weapons in the game and I'm still stuck on R1A1
soft crater
= - = spear isn't the best in comparision to all melee weapons
but it is technically the best for beginners
especially for stealth
covert remnant
I don't get to play this game a whole lot and finally got a PC to run it really well, so I'm still working my through R1. So I am basically noob.
craggy pier
idk bout that, it will hinder them to adjust to hammer later on
ocean spindle
*They told me spear and bullpup were the best weapons in the game and I'm still ...
u dont have precision rifle thats why :3
covert remnant
I actually really like the knife. I can't do it 100% of the time but I've gotten pretty good at killing Scouts with it.
craggy pier
better fail more n learn than to have a safe stealth approach
soft crater
they'll learn sooner or later the downfalls of spear once they get better pretty much
craggy pier
u dont have precision rifle thats why :3
the people that says pr sucks are meta suckers
ocean spindle
i play smg
soft crater
PR is situationally useful
soft crater
it's strength is niche and not really useful in the vet scene for Majority of the expeditions
craggy pier
they'll learn sooner or later the downfalls of spear once they get better pretty...
fair but getting used to it is harder than starting with the hammen learning that way
tidal sparrow
how do you know which region are the groups posted?
tidal sparrow
owh
soft crater
(essentially what I'm saying is.
People post beginners or NA LFGs regardless of region majority of the time here)
soft crater
fair but getting used to it is harder than starting with the hammen learning tha...
they'll adjust the moment they learn they can sprint with Hammer ngl
lone mortar
But in different scenarios
soft crater
sprint+charge *
ocean spindle
smh just hack the game so u can run with spear
tidal sparrow
it's to prevent you from tripping and stabbing yourself
sturdy glen
I mean
lone mortar
smh just hack the game so u can run with spear
Already did
sturdy glen
hammer is just better outside of the sprint part too lol
ocean spindle
Already did
ok cool
ocean spindle
it's to prevent you from tripping and stabbing yourself
yeah they say never run with scissors, never run with a spear :3
craggy pier
they'll adjust the moment they learn they can sprint with Hammer ngl
well that wont bode well for when giant
tidal sparrow
after r1a1, which do I do?
sturdy glen
also pr just has 2 alternatives that do the exact same thing but better
tidal sparrow
should I complete all r1?
craggy pier
should I complete all r1?
yes
soft crater
well that wont bode well for when giant
Giants is something most players don't deal with solo Melee anyhow until they're intermediate/vet
tidal sparrow
been trying to matchmake whole day 
craggy pier
been trying to matchmake whole day <:kekez:1027834852512366592>
you've fallen to one of the oldest blunders
silver fable
the people that says pr sucks are meta suckers
I decide what's meta, PR sucks
craggy pier
Giants is something most players don't deal with solo Melee anyhow until they're...
i suppose yeah
silver fable
seriously meta is probably just whatever rayalot wrote in a reddit thread
soft crater
based
silver fable
but experienced players aren't slavishly devoted to some committee tier list or whatever
tidal sparrow
should fix matchmaking tbh
soft crater
some are- but not all yes
silver fable
it's just that PR is actually bad
craggy pier
I decide what's meta, PR sucks
not one to stick to a meta cuz you know, i like to spice up my selection of weapons
covert remnant
But is it possible to be really good with weapons and gear that are actually bad?
🤔
silver fable
not one to stick to a meta cuz you know, i like to spice up my selection of weap...
I mostly play duos, PR is a good way to not finish the level
soft crater
'pls dont carry, newer player, pro player'...
meanwhile I see the
"Know what youre doing" or along those lines in some lfgs
sturdy glen
yes but it will always just be worse than the alternative
covert remnant
'pls dont carry, newer player, pro player'...
Plz carry 🙏
ocean spindle
cryo did r3c1 with bots i think n pr bullpup spear and shottie sentry
tho i think shotty sentry was ok-ish then
also no
never carry
:c
soft crater
I mostly play duos, PR is a good way to not finish the level
I would say your weapon loadout is affected just being duo mainly
craggy pier
I mostly play duos, PR is a good way to not finish the level
oh yeah 100% no time to pussy foot
covert remnant
cryo did r3c1 with bots i think n pr bullpup spear and shottie sentry
This will be my certified loadout now.
craggy pier
But is it possible to be really good with weapons and gear that are actually bad...
your aim n reflex certainly makes it up a lil bit
silver fable
I would say your weapon loadout is affected just being duo mainly
duo does effect viability of specials in some ways, maybe most notably tradeoff specials like old high cal become better
but PR is bad in duo because it's just bad
soft crater
most "Bad" weapons are called bad because theres another weapon that performs equal to better than it in it's role
silver fable
there are like 6 weapons that perform better than PR in its role
soft crater
that or it just relies on teammates to cover up your down times
covert remnant
Still working on my aim. Still getting the hang of MnK.
But compared to console, I have found it way, way easier to be accurate.
ocean spindle
there are like 6 weapons that perform better than PR in its role
i mean tbh isnt double tap rifle just a
better precision rifle
soft crater
PR's main strength imo is being able to combat enemies long range in darkness. which is niche and not viable in most levels
ocean spindle
with more ammo and range and about the same dmg
tho thats true
the thermal does things in the pr
sturdy glen
dmr and double tap lul
silver fable
i mean tbh isnt double tap rifle just a
better precision rifle
PR in the main slot would be... interesting
soft crater
also. you don't see that many people aside from vets making headshots 80-100% of the time with PR/Revolver like that
especially at the speeds they do it
sturdy glen
so its even worse then
soft crater
pretty much
silver fable
when I evaluate PR, I assume the user is clicking heads a good amount of the time
sturdy glen
awesome
silver fable
still bad
soft crater
PR would probably gain more ammo but lose damage in the main slot
reload probably won't be as bad either
in turn a higher precision damage multi
silver fable
we have guns with outsized impact and atrocious reloads in main
most notably hel shotgun
to some extent sawnoff
pure halo
I like shotguns
sturdy glen
I wonder what noobies think of sawed off now
soft crater
it got buffed to be in a decent spot
sturdy glen
it got overbuffed tbh but I think its just powercreep
soft crater
nah
silver fable
I wonder what noobies think of sawed off now
probably varies a lot, like with experienced players now
I've seen people highly value 1tapping with it as a main
lone mortar
@sturdy glen the hammer double kill was yours right?
sturdy glen
hm?
lone mortar
That was a sick sprint jump
soft crater
I've seen people highly value 1tapping with it as a main
definitely not me sprinting and sliding shooting giants with i t
ocean spindle
tbh readin stats yeah double tap rifle is just a better, precision rifle
it has 11.4 compared to 11.6, 10 more meters of range, more mag, more ammo, less refill cause its a main but more startin ammo, half the rate of fire but faster reload
silver fable
I still don't know what to make of the current sawnoff balance, it's a pocket pump shotty in so many ways now
soft crater
yeah
sturdy glen
I think its fine but
soft crater
some easy expeditions I do with newcomers is SawedOff and HAR
sturdy glen
they shoulda buffed regular shotty a tiny bit
silver fable
they shoulda buffed regular shotty a tiny bit
I guess we're deep into r7 veruta balance philosophy now
silver fable
by which measure I guess you could justify a pump buff
soft crater
ol' reliable
sturdy glen
and sawed off isnt noticebly op if you dont know the stats
but man it sticks out if you do
silver fable
pump is unique, it has a combination of damage and uptime that isn't matched by any other special
so even if it's not crept like half the other specials, you still need it from time to time
soft crater
I recall when I was in my pump shotgun slide shot phase
was fun times
ol' reliable when idk which special to take
if they have to change a weapon imo.
it'd be combat shotgun
sturdy glen
they just should revert the change
there was 0 need for it
was already sleeper good
soft crater
I mainly say change because hel shotgun exists
sturdy glen
what, change the role?
soft crater
but then it'd go into main vs special debate and etc
sturdy glen
I think its fine rn
the 1 tap head is a really nice feature its just too spammable rn
its too good even if you dont go for it
you bring hel shotty purely for crowd control
soft crater
hel shotty can still dps like combat shotty / outside of consistent one shot headshots
just imo. if I want to use a auto shotgun. I'd take hel-shotty
sturdy glen
idk, theyre 2 of my most used weapons and while I use them in similar situations I do not aim them in the same way
use CS more aggressively, hel shotty more defensively and aiming for pierce
soft crater
Me who uses hel shotty pretty aggressively
sturdy glen
(my usage of defensively here is not very accurate but)
ocean spindle
me who uses both the same way aggresively
sturdy glen
tho I do occasionally actually play for stagger its rare
soft crater
me who uses both the same way aggresively
whats funny is. I'm pretty sure I have a R3A3 Clear with helshotty/combatshotty
if thats the reactor level that is
I can't remember
ocean spindle
yeah
sturdy glen
it is
ocean spindle
i have a completion of r1c2 with both
just cause i needed it
cause stagger weapons for chargers n bots r necessary
or they were
since i had about 90 hours if not less
probs less
soft crater
typically hel shotty stagger. I either tap fire to hold off hoards infront of my teammates
or
swap to my special to finish
I hate I do the latter with hel pp and hel rifle
soft crater
pretty much
hel pp stagger and line'em up
then blast em
otherwise I'm staggering hoards infront my teammates with hel pp
which I also recall me and some other guy taking hel pp on R1C1 to help 2 newbies
ocean spindle
i would take help a lot more if i played with people, but usually the times i do r so far in between i instead grab the guns that r my fav, like smg double tab machinegun
cause with bots i pick what its necessary
not really what i super like
thats why i dont use hel shottie anymore ever, i got tired of it
soft crater
ngl I was surprised when Rayalot defended smg
ocean spindle
i am surprised anyone would defend smg apart from me ngl
cause i can just say oh its fun but thats it
and say it jokingly
soft crater
smg is a gun I love as a design standpoint and etc
but it's performance and etc just eh
not really performance
but damage/range/flashlight
Also just hurts that PDW / MP exists
(MP has a better flashlight which I take over smg because of that.)
ocean spindle
i mean yeah. but again when i play with bots i need other types of guns, maybe hel shottie pistol even like machinepistol so when i just play with people, i take what i have the most fun with
which always ends up in the smg and the veruta
cause for me they r probs the prettiest guns on the game, at least the smg, and i just like em
ive tried arbalist pdw carbine hel gun but all those just arent as fun, pdw gets a pass tho im startin to like it a lot
but other than that, just kinda the same
ocean spindle
i never really thought anythin of it, the new changes r cool for like balance n stuff but other than that, it was never my thing
if anythin i pick it when i just wanna, not have to worry of recoil
soft crater
the Arby change to me is like. 2 range/speed effectiveness of the 5 damage value
HAR or Arby
Arby got buffed to 5 damage but became slower
HAR got less recoil/ faster Rof (already had the 5 damage)
sturdy glen
no chargeup is the biggest thing tbh
sturdy glen
as of rn I dont really get why anyone would use arb over har
soft crater
I really don't either
ocean spindle
i need to play with har more, last time i took it was r4a1
i always say its ok but eh i guess i just need to play more guns in general
also when u cant control it i would guess
cause veruta it is a pretty hard recoil
until u kinda get used to it
soft crater
HAR's Faster Rof needs some getting used to if you're used to the old RoF imo
sturdy glen
har is very easy to burst or mix tap fire with so its just fine
ocean spindle
HAR's Faster Rof needs some getting used to if you're used to the old RoF imo
no yeah i tried it and it was pain but then after extreme i was gettin good with it
soft crater
a lot of times I'm hipfire tapping/full auto close range and tapping ads for longer ranges
ocean spindle
ikinda do the same for pdw, even if i shouldnt cause pdw aint a long range gun and im just stupif
craggy pier
cause veruta it is a pretty hard recoil
Then your hands must be creaking 24/7 it barely has any recoil to control
ocean spindle
probably, i have terrible pulse, but tbh isnt it funky
i cant ask for the first times u used it
cause it was probs not the same or u forgotten
idk if it has been changed
ocean spindle
idk i feel like its weird to get used to it, kinda like how now if everyone asks u to spam hel gun u just do it but when u started u had 5 6 runs where u tried and it was sloppy
craggy pier
My precision is not the best so hel gun not the one for me
I did use it in r6 but felt out of place cuz skill issue
Its funny cuz of all the weapons I could have taken it was hel gun and it was only for r6d2 cuz I was thinking mothers and chargers Def best weapon to deal with both tho it got me far but it still didn't click with me cuz ammo n skill issue
ocean spindle
yeah the only time i took hel gun like fr fr and not to try it out was r3a3, just cause i needed it for my bot completion, and with it i took carbine
i mustve done like 20, 25 runs of the level with those two weapons, i got very sick of em
and i barely did headshots, i just did bodyshots and let sentries finish em off
and then for big ones i just spammed it
if i had good aim i wouldve taken a sniper, and if we had r4 i wouldve taken a burst cannon
craggy pier
I took the sniper for the majority of my r6 playtime until I switched to MG or Har then it varied from there to r7 to now
ocean spindle
i need to play with more guns
i havent touched har heavy cal chokemod normal shottie sniper hel rifle hel gun burst cannon pr in a really long time
ive just lived of combat shottie n machineguns
craggy pier
I use most guns nowadays on testing runs and what not then I switch to whatever suits the expedition
ocean spindle
testin runs
i just go with whatevs i can
chargers? well i have a machinepistol and a precision rifle yayyy
craggy pier
Pistol ain't bad for chargers
cold quarry
2 kills per mag, pretty average
I think the only gun that can't manage that is the heavy smg
craggy pier
Heavy
young lava
Hiii :D uh! I’m new and I’ve been trying my best to learn about the game as I’ve had my eye on it for quite a while and such and I’ve just picked it up! But uh? Do y’all have advice and such? :D
ocean spindle
haiiii!
emmm yeh! funky advice
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, try every gun n such to see what u likes and what u dont
and if u gonna play with other people in this server, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel :3
young lava
haiiii!
emmm yeh! funky advice
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], star...
Thanks mate :D
ocean spindle
no worrieees, hope u have much luck in ur runs >:3
and if u have any doubts or questions theres always these channels to helps!
craggy pier
Share the load bring heavy smg
wet current
i know the devs have said that they’d never do any micro transactions, but would they ever consider a sort of support the devs cosmetic thing?
cold quarry
if we got more actually meaningful content out of it i'd absolutely do that
spice ridge
Yo wtf was that suddenly my character went blind???
Like i could still sort of see a distorted image on like 20% of the screen
But after about 30 seconds it started clearing out
fierce walrus
its a bug
scenic tangle
how to get to r5a2 overload?
hidden ridge
how to get to r5a2 overload?
Pick up cargo to unlock bulkhead door, a warning: picking up cargo starts error alarm.
scenic tangle
thanks
dry geode
alt r2 d2 guide plz
the generator level
lone mortar
alt r2 d2 guide plz
the generator level
Guide?
native sun
alt r2 d2 guide plz
the generator level
Codes go: F N F N(k)-S S N F S(k,f) F F
where F = Free, N = North, S = South, k = key, and f = fog turbine.
Other than that, idk, just be fast clearing side zones so you have time to loot. You get more loot by fast clearing/shooting difficult to stealth rooms since you actually get to loot. And probably rush less than you think you need to, you're more likely to lose by messing up a stealth and pulling a bunch of scouts than you are from repeating waves.
hearty aspen
which better on 5E1 ,especially on giant error, hel rifle or sniper?
lone mortar
which better on 5E1 ,especially on giant error, hel rifle or sniper?
Id say the rifle
Cause the amount of franks is staggering
hearty aspen
i guess so,i mean sniper have potentally fastest TTK but it burn on ammo so fast ,which might not idea for a error
also that if your teammate didnt blow the head off first
tardy ingot
you need to get perma double pen for hel rifle to have same eco basically
tardy ingot
~~also that if your teammate didnt blow the head off first~~
Thats teammate issue
killing giant errors is mostly just solo sniper chilling
hel rifle works too
soft crater
Instructions unclear. I downed my team with 1 hel rifle shot
craggy pier
which error is the giant error
fierce walrus
maybr oneday we get actual grenades
jagged shore
almost certainly never gonna happen
fierce walrus
i would love to see something like that in R8F1
where at the end we get a shit ton of explosives
and while running to extract/freedom we get to blow up sleepers
dry pumice
When can we get explosives
Not happening, too strong. Devs regret mines as it is.
long dome
Not happening, too strong. Devs regret mines as it is.
;-;
Even shrapnel grenades?
Like not a big boom but just a bunch of projectiles shooting out in all directions
long dome
Ah
dry pumice
HEL Guns is best you'll get.
dry pumice
Then what would be the point.
long dome
Not foam
dry pumice
Oh... Like a cfoam shotgun or something?
fierce walrus
a flashbang
dry pumice
Hm
long dome
Like it helps a lot but doesn’t kill them
dry pumice
I mean cfoam launcher is already that
fierce walrus
i think a flashbang could be nice cause the enemies react to light and sound
and if it was rare like a cfoam nade or tripmine
long dome
and if it was rare like a cfoam nade or tripmine
Wait c foam is rare?
dry pumice
You can use it mid fight agressively
long dome
I found like four of them on a level
fierce walrus
foam nades kinda, foam tripmines very rare
icy cave
I found it on the second level on b1
a foam tripmine on R1B1?
long dome
a foam tripmine on R1B1?
Not trip
The grenades
Haven’t seen a c foam trip
Only normal ones
icy cave
I thought they only appeared R3 onwards or was it R4? 🤔
icy cave
The grenades
Ah yeah pretty common
icy cave
Haven’t seen a c foam trip
Rare, only in some levels
jagged shore
icy cave
What do foam trip mines even look like
like the pic Jar sent and with a blue laser instead of red
craggy pier
I thought they only appeared R3 onwards or was it R4? 🤔
r4
river galleon
Between R1A1 to R7A1 is there any significant difficulty tweek?
or can one expect the same harsh treatment
winged turtle
Between R1A1 to R7A1 is there any significant difficulty tweek?
or can one expec...
so comparing levels side by side is tough, you will get a lot of variation of difficulty from rundown to rundown.
but yes R4/5 are the hardest R1/3 are the easiest
it is not a linear difficulty curve from 1 to 7, but new mechanics got added gradually
icy cave
Between R1A1 to R7A1 is there any significant difficulty tweek?
or can one expec...
ez to hard: R1 ->R3->R6/R2->R7->R4->R5
jaunty bear
icy cave
there ya go. but even that says not so much as R7 is top 3 hardest rundown overall while R7A1 specifically is the easiest mission in the whole game
soft crater
I'd reckon R1A1 becomes harder if it's true solo
But if it's a 4 man. It's easy af
But
One difference is
You aren't being annoyed by Schaeffer in R1-R5
silver fable
Between R1A1 to R7A1 is there any significant difficulty tweek?
or can one expec...
from easiest to hardest as far as I remember: r7a1, r3a1, r4a1, r1a1, r2a1, r5a1
r6a1 would likely go between r7a1 and r3a1
ocean spindle
id say r3a1 is harder than r2a1 and r4a1 is on par with r5a1 cause of the sectors
sinful pilot
where do i go if im a beginner
craggy pier
where do i go if im a beginner
Also when making a lobby make sure that the people who join your game are in the vc as well
sinful pilot
ok
is training tutorial or the actual deal?
The big red option below select rundown
ocean spindle
hi! TRAINING is a tutorial yeah, its a solo tutorial that u can play by urselfs :3
sinful pilot
thanks
ocean spindle
also when goin to the LFG after completin it, just some advice!
start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and kike they said make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
sinful pilot
what does lfg stands for?
ocean spindle
.t lfg
fierce nebula
fuck the bot
uneven gulchBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
ocean spindle
skill issue
fierce nebula
no you
grim torrent
hey, so when the rules say that you can't play "old rundowns" does that mean that me as a beginner has to find another server to progress until I get to the same rank as everyone else?
grim torrent
so I can progress through the game in this server without having to be the same rank as everyone else?
past mesa
so I can progress through the game in this server without having to be the same ...
There isn’t a ranking system
grim torrent
I know
past mesa
Just your experience will probably not be the same if you pub in North America compared to beginners
grim torrent
I mean like same place in the game
fierce nebula
generally people are chill as long as you state you're new
grim torrent
okayyyy
fierce nebula
it's not uncommon to see new players jump into E1 LFGs all like "third level I've ever tried" 😹
and usually if people want a skilled lobby
they should state it in the LFG
so if the LFG says "experienced only" then just avoid those
otherwise rest are fair game
grim torrent
okay, cool, thanks
grim torrent
what does that mean?
past mesa
what does that mean?
Modders just join levels you need and your good
lone mortar
Modders just join levels you need and your good
You free today jish?
I wana learn some spacing and line ups
past mesa
<:Shlorp:991157154914512946>
Are you not the enjoyer that joined my game today
silver fable
id say r3a1 is harder than r2a1 and r4a1 is on par with r5a1 cause of the sector...
I first try solo'd r3a1, it can't be that bad. The class 4 in r2a1 stonewalled my first try solo, its waves seem just as stacked as the class 4 in r1a1 but its scan room has multiple entrances hence the ordering.
r4a1's main feels pretty simple to solo, I died shortly before second uplink in secondary. I suppose if secondaries are required then r4a1 should be second hardest.
r5a1 is hardest even without secondary, the cluster scan at the end is pretty nasty.
soft crater
Diminished alarms?
tardy ingot
I first try solo'd r3a1, it can't be that bad. The class 4 in r2a1 stonewalled m...
The cluster is actually very chill once you funnel through the far door :p
silver fable
ah, tbh I'm operating on years-old memories of trying to do it pre-r6
well, 1.5yr old memories
silver fable
and I would've used mines
silver fable
maybe it goes further down the ranks, because the cluster is all r5a1 has
tardy ingot
it works super well
honestly the alarm is just long due to cluster + the upstairs part. Otherwise its easy af
silver fable
if it's mega chill to funnel then it maybe goes before r3a1 on my list
tardy ingot
hard to say overall
like its obviously also different to rank solo vs team
ancient vine
Hey, I haven't played this game for ages. They stopped removing rundowns right? How do I tell which one is the "current" one?
icy cave
Hey, I haven't played this game for ages. They stopped removing rundowns right? ...
they all are now
ancient vine
I guess I just overcomplicated it to myself then, thanks for the info! So used to "this is new content, this is old content" in games lol.
icy cave
I guess I just overcomplicated it to myself then, thanks for the info! So used t...
If you mean last (re) released it's R5 a couple weeks ago. but then again it also got released two years ago
ancient vine
Yeah I've come to play the game for short bursts so I've only played one or two of the old rundowns back when they'd release a new one and pull out the last one. Decided to stick my hands back in and it was just confusing me with suddenly having them back in. Are they just going through one by one to add the older ones back up to the "last" one?
icy cave
Yeah I've come to play the game for short bursts so I've only played one or two ...
you in luck as all the old ones have been re released
so you can just play everything you missed back then
fierce walrus
other than R6
icy cave
other than R6
September/october
ancient vine
Sick as hell man, always sucked that I missed out so it's awesome to get to play 'em proper. Thanks for answering my questions!
icy cave
R6 is not one I am missing tbh
native sun
Previously in GTFO's development, when a new Rundown was released, the old Rundown would be removed, so only one Rundown was accessible at a time. This was the case for the original releases of Rundowns 1-6, none of these original rundowns are accessible to play.
Rundown 7, the most recent original Rundown to be released, is still available. After its release, the developers began rereleasing the old rundowns as "alternate" versions. These rereleases have received minor changes, but are generally faithful to their original counterparts. Noticeably though, this means that new mechanics, new objectives and new enemies that were only introduced later in GTFO's development will not appear in the earlier alternate Rundowns. These rereleases, as well as Rundown 7, are all still available to play.
@ancient vine from my level completion order guide
ancient vine
Nice nice! The game has progressed a lot since I originally got it so it's good to see they've updated the old ones with the newer mechanics and such. Appreciate the info!
fierce nebula
also the fact if you played the game from day 1 then basically no new content was made for a year now
still more content than Overwatch players get
craggy pier
cries in tf2
soft crater
calm thistle
Hello! Just picked up the game and played through the tutorial, and had quite a few issues reading the numbers of the keycard to ping - My pc is quite lowend so I can't really turn all the settings up, is anyone aware of which setting would be tied to text readability?
cold quarry
i'd guess resolution
make sure your resolution is at your monitors proper resolution, it should be the absolute last thing you turn down
if you really need to
calm thistle
I will give that a try, thank you!
That worked, thank you. I didn't realise I turned it down so much - I also noticed that there were scale sliders for some HUD elements so I bumped those up - Now it's clear and I feel old
craggy pier
get off my lawn
cold quarry
i forgot this game had hud sliders
sometimes couldnt tell the difference between 0's and 8's on my monitor
I will not change it and continue to struggle
icy cave
That worked, thank you. I didn't realise I turned it down so much - I also notic...
You are old man, you ask no money
calm thistle
You are old man, you ask no money
Back in my day, you'd be happy with the experience to work for someone, that was pay enough!
icy cave
*Back in my day, you'd be happy with the experience to work for someone, that wa...
Not the reference I was going for. Oh well meaby not everyone is as rotten as I am
calm thistle
Not the reference I was going for. Oh well meaby not everyone is as rotten as I ...
Sorry man, still early for me haha
icy cave
No worries
calm thistle
wait
LMAO I JUST GO TIT
How to pay here for?
RIGHT RIGHT?
I literally only saw that for the first time like a few days ago, I'm so sad it already left my mind ;c
distant citrus
are there any levels with early chargers?
me n my friend are trying to try some stealth stuff
icy cave
are there any levels with early chargers?
R1C2 has them within 5 min
R4C3 right at the start
R5B3 altho that won't be silent
distant citrus
okey edokey
craggy pier
R5B3 altho that won't be silent
should of told em bout r2 that things was full to the brim
icy cave
should of told em bout r2 that things was full to the brim
LIES
icy cave
i will not tolerate this insolence
What you gon do ?
craggy pier
What you gon do ?
i will @ you on twitter and let everyone know
icy cave
i will @ you on twitter and let everyone know
Oh no am I getting cancelled 😮
craggy pier
yes you insignificant idiot
icy cave
yes you insignificant idiot
Do your worse
craggy pier
Do your worse
you wont hear the end of this
distant citrus
for long range aggro how much does the knife reduce the range?
default range is 15m but i cant find anything on knfie range
shadow hawk
on the wiki it says that it doesn't affect the long range aggro range but it reduces the chance for it happening? whatever that means?
craggy pier
ive never heard of such things
icy cave
you wont hear the end of this
1v1 me in roblox
craggy pier
1v1 me in roblox
i would never lay a finger on a kids game
1v1 minecraft
you wont
🖕
icy cave
u cant out eagle me
1v1 me Cs
craggy pier
noob
craggy pier
its ok to suck sometimes
icy cave
its ok to suck sometimes
M8 you at the rate of a Mountain goat. that's far beyond sometimes
craggy pier
speaking from experience?
icy cave
speaking from experience?
Third party accounts of events
craggy pier
slidin only this time
soft crater
on the wiki it says that it doesn't affect the long range aggro range but it red...
Think of it like when an enemy is pulsing. It has a higher chance of waking up.
If a hammer killed 1 sleeper while 2 close enough for detection were pulsing.
The other would wake up.
Whereas knife could potentially get away without waking it by chance
Then again. This low noise/chance feature of knife is more useless the better you are at using knife
soft crater
sleep state just happens to be the lowest
funnily enough. I don't believe it to be zero though (unless that's just some sync issue or smth else)
sleeper pulsing but isn't visible yet to my client ass
fleet ravine
Hello dear friends! I have an technical issue. I cant start the game. I tried to restart, reinstall, delete severall folders but nothing seems to work. Had anyone same problems as myself?
native sun
sleep state just happens to be the lowest
When they are truly sleeping there is no chance, but yes, those first few moments of the stretching animation are often unreactable, and client definitely exacerbates this
past star
Hello dear friends! I have an technical issue. I cant start the game. I tried to...
Mind elaborating? Like does the game crash immediately? Or when it loads up does it give an error?
high yew
Hi, I'm new to the game and have a question. So, are the rundowns placed orderly regarding to their difficulties? (Like Rundown 1 is easier than rundown 2 and such)
brittle mural
They're ordered based on the time they released them originally
high yew
Ahh, got it, so a beginner can start on any A levels of any rundowns, am I right?
Thanks!
past mesa
Ahh, got it, so a beginner can start on any A levels of any rundowns, am I right...
Yeah r4 and 5 are a bit harder than the rest but you are good to start anywhere
icy cave
Hi, I'm new to the game and have a question. So, are the rundowns placed orderly...
ez to hard: R1 -> R3 -> R6/R2-> R7 -> R4 -> R5
high yew
ez to hard: R1 -> R3 -> R6/R2-> R7 -> R4 -> R5
Hey, thanks! That helps.
soft crater
When they are truly sleeping there is no chance, but yes, those first few moment...
Figured that might be it. BreadSpot saving the day
soft crater
<@293943511991058443> not sleep time yet?
There's a sleep time?
lone mortar
There's a sleep time?
Yea
icy cave
Hey, thanks! That helps.
thats rundowns overall diff. and says nothing about individual levels tho. for example R7 is top 3 hardest rundown but R7A1 is the easiest mission in the whole game
lone mortar
icy cave
so take that into account as well
soft crater
I woke up like 8AM and didn't get out of bed until 9AM
lone mortar
I mean diff time zones
soft crater
Idk how much I actually slept since I didn't check the time after 3
soft crater
definitely didn't just come back from the general store with frozen pizzas
I wanted to actually cook and have some noodles. But I'm too lazy to make rice.
lone mortar
I wanted to actually cook and have some noodles. But I'm too lazy to make rice.
Im never lazy for rice
I can be on this damn game for a whole day till 6 am and still go cook lunch
soft crater
Im never lazy for rice
It's because if I don't eat all of it myself over time. My family won't eat it and it goes bad
lone mortar
“Fuck you sarah, im grinding GTFO”
soft crater
(Next to not always having things to pair with rice)
lone mortar
it only takes like 10 min
30s if your asian
soft crater
lone mortar
“Fuck college, im putting down sentries”
fleet ravine
Mind elaborating? Like does the game crash immediately? Or when it loads up does...
Sure, i cant even start the game, it crashes immediately, as mentioned, restart and reinstall couldnt help
neon gust
verify game cache
make sure your up to date drivers
hearty aspen
i do wonder why E1 is the only map in R7 without checkpoint,i mean im fine without it but yeah
neon gust
because it an E level lmao
lone mortar
i do wonder why E1 is the only map in R7 without checkpoint,i mean im fine witho...
Why would E tier give u check point?
neon gust
its suppose to be challenging and not just a repeat checkpoint till you pass level
lone mortar
Same goes with R4-5
dry pumice
Unconfirmed, but probably is the reason, yes
jagged shore
If they have that wondering i feel like they don't really understand lol
fleet ravine
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make sure your up to date drivers
bloody hell, we played yesterday.. but thanks ill try
lone mortar
That shit was s nightmare
hearty aspen
Anyone here played OG R4E1?
i did,90% of people fail at 2nd S scan
and those who managed to put cell in without doing EX,mostly fail at the 4scout lol
neon gust
That shit was s nightmare
you had NO STAMINA, THE BEST 2 BROKEN WEAPONS INSIDE THE GAME, SNIPER SENTRY UNNERF, BACK DAMAGE, NO COLLISION
hearty aspen
and then when you couldnt find a single ammo
neon gust
YOU HAD AMMO EVERYWHERE
lone mortar
you had NO STAMINA, THE BEST 2 BROKEN WEAPONS INSIDE THE GAME, SNIPER SENTRY UNN...
The tank in general 
neon gust
what r4e1 did you guys play lmao
lone mortar
hearty aspen
you had NO STAMINA, THE BEST 2 BROKEN WEAPONS INSIDE THE GAME, SNIPER SENTRY UNN...
yeah sure,and if even all that people still fail a lot on 2nd S
neon gust
cuz i dont remember that level been impossible at all
hearty aspen
say a lot about that level
neon gust
people will follow the meta blind expect it to work without wondering why the meta was good
same thing happend in r5
lone mortar
Hehe
hearty aspen
also sniper sentry back then still bad because no bio synthetic or booster
lone mortar
Machine gun = fun
hearty aspen
so it take age to even shoot and the map is an arse to even position it
neon gust
also sniper sentry back then still bad because no bio synthetic or booster
and thats good because if you knew, killing enemies too fast its bad for you
it kill the right amount of enemies fo you to speed up scan progress
so yoiu can still be on the first wave of an alarm and make hella progress
icy cave
OG R4E1 is not nearly as bad as what some are saying here
jagged shore
Dragon any chance of a full alts review like your old Rd reviews
neon gust
it was like 2 second targer lockdown on og r4e1
icy cave
Still hardest level in the game tho
neon gust
Dragon any chance of a full alts review like your old Rd reviews
of all levels?
lone mortar
Dragon any chance of a full alts review like your old Rd reviews
2 words
neon gust
imjust kinda waiting for r8 so i can review the entire game
lone mortar
Too easy
hearty aspen
the current R4E1 got gutted a lot anyway
lone mortar
R5C2 was supposed to be impossible at overload
jagged shore
imjust kinda waiting for r8 so i can review the entire game
Coolio then ty
hearty aspen
the og R4C3 pe and E1 took me hell lot of tries to beat
neon gust
R4E1 took the biggest hit of any alt level
layout pretty much the same, they just made it less of a maze and its more straightfoward
lone mortar
layout pretty much the same, they just made it less of a maze and its more strai...
Tanks became a toy
hearty aspen
C3 mostly because you have to converse your ammo before doing anything
icy cave
layout pretty much the same, they just made it less of a maze and its more strai...
In an error setting that kinda guts it tho
neon gust
a good buff to the level honestly woulda been to just change the class 6 rooms because of shitty pathing
wintry kayak
and they cut the amount of shadow scouts in three
lone mortar
With killing 3 tanks and boom done with main
neon gust
Tanks became a toy
it was always a toy
icy cave
Tanks became a toy
Tank was not changed in any way
lone mortar
Tank was not changed in any way
I mean sure
jagged shore
I got better at the game so the game must be easier
wintry kayak
and guaranteed pairs
neon gust
In an error setting that kinda guts it tho
eh true but we do have stamina now so traveling the same amount would make people complain harder
lone mortar
I like to have some decent perspective of tanks
civic wave
layout pretty much the same, they just made it less of a maze and its more strai...
decoupling shadow scouts is a big hit tbh
hearty aspen
shit was nerves test
wintry kayak
decoupling shadow scouts is a big hit tbh
also the amount
icy cave
eh true but we do have stamina now so traveling the same amount would make peopl...
And those should be banned
neon gust
decoupling shadow scouts is a big hit tbh
imo it didnt really hit too much since if you do reactor (wich everybody does ) then you would jsut shoot it
like hammer one guy shoot the next
kill room etc etc
main only i can see that as a big nerf
civic wave
I mean at least for me, that was part of the identity of the mission
so only seeing one scout is bleh,
lame in my eyes
lone mortar
hearty aspen
cant really surpirese people abusing it since circle kite was a popular trait
lone mortar
Long kite?
hearty aspen
heck,apply to D2 to save door too
wintry kayak
Long kite?
same bs
lone mortar
hearty aspen
long kite you basically just run around
hearty aspen
so only seeing one scout is bleh,
yeah,that room was the biggest challenge back then
no thermal to even see anything around,and even the bio guy have to guess where the other shadows are
hearty aspen
2 scout at once mean you cant just close door and go loud either
lone mortar
Og didn’t had no thermal luxury
