gtfo-related-questions

[minor fractal]

Text is p minor stuff to hold in memory.

[soft crater]

I always referred to precision affecting the "Base" damage

Prior to weakpoint multi

[winged turtle]

multiplication either way

[soft crater]

Correct

[compact junco]

is there currently any point to completing the secondary or overload tasks? other than "I did it!" which is enough for me ig. but it would be nice to get some steam achievements eventually or extra cosmetics for those extra tasks.

[craggy pier]

no it's just "i did it" there r no additional cosmetics for completing secondaries/overloads at this time

[timid rampart]

How many mines does it take to kill a tank these days? I remember it was 7 in rundown 4 (original) but then they buffed mines in rundown 5 right?

[low willow]

I don't know if that was when it happened, but I think the mine buff was just to make them work properly instead of just killing like 2 dudes

[minor fractal]

It's the same.

The mine buff/fix has nothing to do with its damage.

[soft crater]

casually puts 30 mines at doorway for tank

don't mind me here.

[compact junco]

I will do it for regular sleepers.

[hidden ridge]

Additional Sectors used to give specific cosmetic rewards, stopped being a thing with Alt R1 release

[lost flame]

So they're just... for flexing now?

[shadow flower]

What long Gun are we talking about?

[past mesa]

Just extend the sniper barrel by a few feet pls

[jagged shore]

literally best idea ever

[craggy pier]

the unusused weapon in the game files

[jagged shore]

make sniper barrel way longer
and flicking it quick can melee guys

[latent obsidian]

The return of sniper melee

[shadow flower]

Well, we don’t usually comment on data mined stuff. May be used in the future, may not be

[shadow flower]

”A few feet”? 😂 You will poke someone in the eye

[hidden ridge]

Well it depends on what you want from the game tbh

If what you want is just the cosmetics then you dont need them

if you're a completionist, then you might want to do all PEs and whatnot

Personally, I just enjoy the ride and barring R4E1 Extreme everything has been super doable in R4

R4C3 PE was grating but whatever

It's also interesting to try to compare R2 maps with R4's only Main

[icy cave]

already do 😏

[icy cave]

you are really scarred by that one. it really was not the worst reactor we had

[hidden ridge]

I'm comparing it to R7E1 Main cause they're both a reactor level (I guess?)

Out of all the times I've reached Reactor in R7E1, I had a couple of tries that could have been won if not for a mistake

[icy cave]

I think R4E1 is the most enjoyable E we have right now

[hidden ridge]

Compared to all the runs I did, R4E1's really felt like my chances were on average way worse

[icy cave]

I did not feel like that. as R7E1 you can not miss one code

[hidden ridge]

I started gitting gud at around R6 release and R4E1 Extreme is probably the only istance were I really felt like my chances of completing it were super-thin

[icy cave]

fair enough Guess its subjective anyways

[hidden ridge]

Perhaps I either got lucky with R7E1 but restarting after failing that didn't feel even nearly as bad as the same on R4E1 Extreme

I'm also sure it has something to do with map lenght tbh

Most R7E1 clears I remember seeing were little short of an hour or along those line

[icy cave]

R7E1 is shorter for sure

[hidden ridge]

compared to R4E1 Extreme were it's more on the 90-120min range

[tardy ingot]

R4E1 is far far harder than R7E1 and takes more time

so its not a suprise

[icy cave]

but more enjoyable (imo)

[tardy ingot]

Ye

[wheat tulip]

how to turn off mouse scroll to switch weapon in gtfo ?

i didn't find any setting for that

[solemn flint]

i think u cant, but why though

it helps alot in sticky situation

[dry pumice]

In my anecdotal experience - mouse wheel weapons switch is worthless and almost all of my mouse end up with broken wheels that either do not respond or over respond, so even accidentally touching causes me to switch weapons when i don't need to.
And so i only switch weapons using the keyboard numbers. Been that way since uh... Half-Life 2?

[ocean spindle]

it depends on the scroll wheel sensivility

[weak root]

if you disconnect from the mission, you loose the boosters
boosters have uses, muted 1, bold 1-2, aggressive 2-3, you use em if you equip em to the mission
if you use em up fully, they disappear from your inventory
you can get your boosters back if you go back to the lobby in the first minute you spawn in

[main dagger]

is it an empty space or is there a booster icon there?

i.e: an aggressive booster that's just been greyed out

[ocean spindle]

press O, u can check boosters from there, maybe it was a visual bug in the health bar but they r still there?

[bold harbor]

anyone having issue match making?

[ocean spindle]

hello, ingame matchmakin its just very bad and funky, id recommend usin the lfg channels on this discord server!

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] in case u havent, start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[bold harbor]

@ocean spindle thank you

[ocean spindle]

its ok

[minor fractal]

I wish resource eff would disable itself more often.

[hearty aspen]

then you dont have or using the efficiency on the wrong pack

supply work on ammo/tool while med work on well...med

havent tested if med eff work on disinfect too lol

did your friend who have it disconnected/left the lobby?

because booster will disappear if you exit the run

[ocean spindle]

aham!

ah woops

[turbid horizon]

Lemondrop

[ocean spindle]

the vodka

[soft crater]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like sniper rifle is useful (especially for hybrids that will launch a 40 dmg barrage from across the map). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

👍

[winged turtle]

🙇‍♀️

[fierce nebula]

[weary mauve]

Hello, can I do any rundown even if its not unlocked if the host has it unlocked?

[jagged shore]

yes

[native sun]

It'll even count as completed when you (eventually) unlock it

[fierce nebula]

I got banned from Fortnite

[next socket]

What is the purpose of the first error alarm in R4E1? It doesn't seem to spawn enemies?

[verbal zinc]

You might have a stuck tank

[next socket]

Does it just continuously spawn tanks after the first one?

[verbal zinc]

It spawns tanks until you put in both cells

[next socket]

hmm ok

[minor fractal]

Timer is something like 4 minutes per tank.

[next socket]

will it spawn multiple if you don't deal with it?

[verbal zinc]

Absolutely

[turbid horizon]

Either that or you got some CHUNKY desync. I’ve heard of desync screwing up E1 really bad, could just be rumors

Mr Blade probably knows better than me

[next socket]

Naw I was watching some gameplay and it was cut in a way where I couldn't tell it was spawning tanks

That or I wasn't able to pay enough attention because it didn't have any subway surfers gameplay on the side

[turbid horizon]

mmmm

I recommend Kolfo R4E1 videos

[next socket]

I'm used to error alarms spawning frequent smol boys

[turbid horizon]

They’re fucking great

[turbid horizon]

Lmao

[jagged shore]

dude those videos had me so excited for alt r4 lol

have rewatched them far too many times

[turbid horizon]

I KNOW

[turbid horizon]

I hope his R5 vids come out before ALT R5

XD

[verbal zinc]

I’ve been falling through the floor and getting fully infected cuz of it a couple of times

[turbid horizon]

[fierce nebula]

skill issue

[turbid horizon]

troll floor

[verbal zinc]

As long as you jump on objects you’re fine

The floor is lava

[turbid horizon]

parkour!

[soft crater]

FireHammer

[dry geode]

hello, me and my group are new to this game
we are stuck in rundown 1 c2
we cant do the last lvl 4 alarm apex door
what will be the best strat to clear it

[solemn flint]

shoot

alot

bring 2 sentry, 1 facing the door that u open to go get key, the other one for the door that you come in, shoot a lot alot

and shoot when ur in the scan, dont do something stupid like split up team to defend or something. Faster alarm done=less wave spawn

[soft crater]

I'd reckon that part also becomes harder or easier based on your team's weaponry

[hidden ridge]

Once I had host migration delete tank error

[hidden ridge]

They either come from the sec door you opened (they spawn 2 rooms away from you, counting room where you are as room 0, to be clear) or from the ladder at the front. You can place a sentry facing the base of the ladder, so it has a lot of time to shoot as they do the "jumping down the ladder" animation. You could also foam and mine doors if you really want.

[dry geode]

best weapon and sentry to face chargers?

any recommendation for loadout?

i usually take hel rev and machinegun

[icy cave]

Keep the 3 doors open in the zone before (ladder side), Keep the doors in side zone as well. before starting last alarm. close them, foam + mine them all, put sentry at base of ladder. enjoy win

[solemn flint]

hel gun/rifle wipe chargers out of the equation

[hidden ridge]

I used to abuse the long animation for the ladder+sniper sentry a lot (before nerf), but I feel like anything aside from auto sentry would work fine tbh

[dry geode]

thank you

[icy cave]

Burst will be best. probably right now

[dry geode]

i take burst sentry and my friends take sniper and shotgun

[hidden ridge]

Otherwise, yeah, hel guns... hel rifle... fuck it, a guy with a combat shotty could decimated them if he just waits at the ladder (cheesy but it works)

[icy cave]

you should foam and mine the doors I mentioned

[dry geode]

ok

[solemn flint]

uhmm, bringing 3 sentry is not a good idea

[icy cave]

This is why you get so many enemies

[dry geode]

what about the key door?

[icy cave]

same keep the doors in the first room of that zone

foam and mine them. they will spawn in the 2nd rooms of that zone

[hidden ridge]

I do it with bots and sentries all the time when I do DRUNK R1C2

[icy cave]

If they spawn a 2nd time there (when door is broken) you shoot the wave

[solemn flint]

they always spawn 2 room away, dj way is the easy path

[hidden ridge]

just keep doors open so they trickle in that case. If you bring foam and mines do what DNA says

[icy cave]

the limoncello run

[solemn flint]

are u doing russian strat

[dry geode]

ok i can cfoam the 3 gates

[icy cave]

IF you bring 3 sentries then never close the doors

[dry geode]

then for the key door there is only 1 door so i should cfoam that right?

[hidden ridge]

😄 I'm lucky enough to have a lemon tree I need to do limoncello

[icy cave]

Only if you can foam AND mine

[solemn flint]

close door without mine will make enemy stack up

[icy cave]

yes

[solemn flint]

and oh boi, things will become a mess if u dont have the ability to clean up

[icy cave]

but always Mine them as well. that wipes the whole wave

[dry geode]

ok then mine deployer,c foam, bio tracker

which sentry should we take burst or sniper?

[icy cave]

If you don't have a mine deployer. the foam will be only delaying and you will get all enemies at once

[dry geode]

ou

[solemn flint]

burst, it work and u dont have to think about it

[icy cave]

burst I would say

[dry geode]

ok

[solemn flint]

sniper sentry need ping

[icy cave]

👍

[dry geode]

thank you boiis

[icy cave]

good luck.

[solemn flint]

is limonchello alcohol?

[hidden ridge]

Yes

[icy cave]

After that: only R1D1 and you'll be done with tutorial

[icy cave]

you are too young

[dry geode]

im bad with hell gun any other options?

[solemn flint]

we dont have limonchello over here

[solemn flint]

anything

[dry geode]

ok

[icy cave]

Choke shotty deletes chargers

[dry geode]

choke mod right

[icy cave]

Veruta MG.

[dry geode]

was good

till ammo lasted

[icy cave]

Just make sure to balance your ammo

[hidden ridge]

I do it with Oranges from a tree as old as I am. Peel the oranges without the white part of the peel, place in a container with grain alcohol and cinnamon sticks for like 2 weeks or more (I usually do a month but whatever), then philter the liquid, add to the liquid water and sugar, mix, let rest, enjoy.

[icy cave]

you'll be fine

[dry geode]

just will have to do scans fast

[icy cave]

I did not know you were 150 years old

[icy cave]

scans are always a priority

[dry geode]

in which run down checkpoints come?

[hidden ridge]

6-7

[icy cave]

6. so you have a LONG way

[hidden ridge]

And I guess Rundown 8

[dry geode]

i played free week prev yr

[hidden ridge]

maybe

[solemn flint]

ill try to make it when i have time

[dry geode]

it was r7 ig

[icy cave]

but they break the game more than help. so don't look forward to them m8

[dry geode]

yea

[hidden ridge]

There's lot of recipes online with dosages

[civic wave]

Checkpoints are hit and miss do try not to rely on them

[dry geode]

ic ould only do 1 or 2 lvl

that time

[hidden ridge]

Just adjust sugar+water if you want it less alcoholic or more

[icy cave]

you better off learning the game well and going for no checkpoint clears.

once in a while they help.

[dry geode]

its a charger lvl so should i take hammer as melee?

[hidden ridge]

As a rule of thumb, if you're failing at a checkpoint more than twice, you're doing something very wrong and might wanna redo the whole run

[dry geode]

i usually take knife

[solemn flint]

yes

[dry geode]

ok

[icy cave]

you should always take hammer imo. (come at me)

[solemn flint]

hammer everything

[dry geode]

ok

[hidden ridge]

Just take hammer all the time

[dry geode]

ok

[celest sentinel]

Will shooting sleepers with C-foam wake them up if I don't use enough of it to fully freeze them or can I just shoot blob by blob?

[hidden ridge]

for shooting sleepers with cofam you mean foaming them?

but no they dont wake up

[celest sentinel]

yup, thx

[hidden ridge]

You can even fully foam something, and as along as you dont do anything that would wake him up, he's gonna stay asleep after he defoams

[tardy ingot]

to add onto this, the only thing that will wake it up once unfrozen is if you hit it

[craggy pier]

when is the sex update?

[upper ginkgo]

sleeper breeding 🤤

[craggy pier]

[sacred dew]

Is that a fear and hunger reference?

[ocean spindle]

whats yalls fav ALPHA location?

[turbid horizon]

zone 86

Alpha 1

[ocean spindle]

very night very cool :]
very place for a climatic thing that i wont say cause it is technically spoils

[weak root]

huh

[turbid horizon]

I mean it looks cool in day fog as wel

[ocean spindle]

well tru but we only see like
a smol part of it

[turbid horizon]

Alpha 1 and Alpha… like 6?

Wherever we go in C2

Also the staircase of Death from DX, think it’s 4

[ocean spindle]

yeh alpha six :3
also thats alpha 3 im pretty sure

i like the vibes a lot from r7e1 alpha two

[turbid horizon]

Alpha 3 is in R6C1

[ocean spindle]

n no
thats not alpha
i mean it is but it doesnt have a number

cause it is not a buildin

its just dessert

unless im seein the wiki wrong

[soft crater]

That's just Ohio

[tardy ingot]

BX and DX were imo the coolest combat arenas for it
R6B1 and R7C2 are the most "damn this is cool" tho for me from how it looks

[turbid horizon]

I think the arena in D1 was my favorite

I loved how it sprawled out in all 3 axises

[solemn flint]

Do we have a location call alpha in gtfo?

[tardy ingot]

ah true that one was also pretty cool

i think if the D1 arena spawned strikers aswell

that wouldve been an easy favourite

[turbid horizon]

YES

[tardy ingot]

also, C1 was fucking underwhelming., R6A1 had the better other dimension port there lol

R7E1 is kinda doodoo (bad r6b1) and while i like how R7B3sec looks, it is not fun to play

[ocean spindle]

D:<
hey
it looks cool at night

i wasnt really talkin of the gameplay of it ksmdk

but i guess it branched out to that

[turbid horizon]

Yeah I wish the shack corner had a little bit of cover

Being out in the open with flyers everywhere was fucking annoying

[tardy ingot]

i wish they made it more of a "king of the hill"

[turbid horizon]

Yeah

[tardy ingot]

its why i liked r6bx

[turbid horizon]

mmm true the ladder shack

[tardy ingot]

theres 1 good holding spot and that one is the upstairs building

but i held at other parts 4 fun quite often

honestly

r6 had so many cool things

[turbid horizon]

I forgot ab that spot bc I hate like 80% of that level

[tardy ingot]

its a shame it was perceived as baby easy after r4 and r5

[turbid horizon]

YES

R6 was so cool man

[tardy ingot]

i just want them to rework the r6c1 teleports

i litteraly dont wanna do them

they are so tedious

[hearty aspen]

i hate big flyer

[tardy ingot]

basically no threat, just circle walk

[hearty aspen]

like idm if they make it tanky

but make it bullet proof with only a tiny gap when it charging is ugh

[tardy ingot]

hit it in the eye

bam

can also hit the butt

[hearty aspen]

been there done that,back shot kinda hit or miss for me

[turbid horizon]

Add pablo they won’t

[tardy ingot]

eh would still result in circle walk

snatcher spawns

imagine

[turbid horizon]

yes

[tardy ingot]

HOLY, imagine snatcher and strikers on r6d1

[turbid horizon]

YES

[tardy ingot]

suddenly absolute insane

[turbid horizon]

or big chargor

Meant for reactor side

[hearty aspen]

wait untill they introduce shadow charger

[tardy ingot]

i have 1 fear

flyers and big flyers are prone to get stuck

and they rly need to add big flyers into the r6d1 fight

but if they get stuck...

[turbid horizon]

:3

help step kraken

[median tree]

Quick question - when you pull alarm doors, can enemies spawn from a room that is two rooms away based on path A but only one room away based on path B?

[tardy ingot]

no

[spark wolf]

if the alarm is set to prefer 2 rooms

then they will only do 2 rooms if 2 rooms is available

[median tree]

Ok, thank you!

[soft crater]

R1B1 when you do the security door before the alarmed door

The people who don't believe me when I say do the security door first

[tardy ingot]

eh the ladder funnel is also chill

[soft crater]

I've had beginners struggle to defend it

[tardy ingot]

beginners struggle with any and everything

[soft crater]

1hour R1A1s

[civic wave]

I've seen some people take 30 minutes to prepare for the class 2 alarm in a1

[soft crater]

Og players who played back then that think sentry behind a cfoam/mined door is the effective method

[tardy ingot]

it was a decent strat when shotgun sentry was busted and mines were scuff

[soft crater]

And sentries had backdamage

Shotgun sentries effectively did 8x damage to the back

At least prior to the nerfs

[tardy ingot]

well bugfix

[soft crater]

(Also assuming everyone ran it)

[soft crater]

Nerfs

I will miss the shotgun sentry that God intended for us to use

[soft kiln]

me when mines only killed 3 out of 18 of the wave

[soft kiln]

me when AltR4 shotgun sentry 100% -> 0% in a single class 4 alarm

[tardy ingot]

hey, it lasts like 33% longer now

before it could only do a class 3

[soft crater]

My diagnosis. You need sentry cpu speed

[soft kiln]

not only now I could clear a whole wave
now I can also clear all tool refill in the level

[tardy ingot]

Alt R1 shotgun sentry still funniest thing

lowest ammo of shotgun sentry, but highest spending power

[soft kiln]

what if shotgun sentry bio symbiosis instead of make it shoots faster
it makes it shoot slower but higher damage

[past mesa]

Devs don’t understand that blowing their entire load in one shot isn’t amazing

[soft kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/cum-penis-cum-i-creamed-cumming-xd-gif-20404521

shotgun sentry when bio symbiosis

oh yeah this channels doesnt has gif embed

[tardy ingot]

i played with shotgun sentries with max cpu speed boosters on r7d2 once

we blew through a 5 use tool quicker than we could refill it

[fathom jolt]

I usually bonk with the hammer but what guns can end a scout?

• sniper
• high cal pistol
• precision rifle

anything else? Hel rifle?

I play with some groups that don't do well handling scouts so when we get spit up I usually tell them to just dome it if I can't get there

[past mesa]

Shotguns

Burst cannon

Mines

C foam

[civic wave]

Hel gun/revolver to the back of the head

[tardy ingot]

1 shot
sniper
precision rifle
high cal
choke mod shotgun
shotgun
hel rifle

back of the head
hel gun
revolver
combat shotgun
hel shotgun

[past mesa]

Machine guns can go back of head and har

[soft kiln]

#gtfo-media message

[fathom jolt]

thanks peeps

[tardy ingot]

going 1 shot here

[past mesa]

every single main in the game can do back of head if you quick swap hammer

[fathom jolt]

this

lol

[soft kiln]

dont try this one

[past mesa]

Yeah lol

Funny

[fathom jolt]

I need to hide this ,one of the players loves that gun I try to just bonk everyone else is too scared to cuddle

[tardy ingot]

learning to melee scouts does become quite important tho

[fathom jolt]

it does but i am not gunna push too hard since some of them are just doing their best to play the game. thanks for the list tho. i may try the machine pistol just to freak them out

[tardy ingot]

that was hel pp btw

hel auto pistol

to be precise

[ocean spindle]

qwq this this is the type of carryin i wanna see

not invasive

[civic wave]

it'll only work when the door is opening

[soft kiln]

and that video is impossible without bug

[civic wave]

because while it's opening the scout won't go off

[soft kiln]

^

[fathom jolt]

I dont mind speeding through levels(the type of groups I tend to find on the discord) but the other guys like to do stealth which is fun too so I get best of both worlds

[tardy ingot]

as long as you dont go inside the room

[fathom jolt]

noted

[tardy ingot]

if you do this they insta awake when you shoot em while its opening

speeding

[soft kiln]

machine pistol is doable as long most hit back of the head
so you could go for it

tho be careful of the animation

[vague bridge]

how does one hel shotgun a scout to the occi

[tardy ingot]

by shooting back of the head

[vague bridge]

how close do you have to be

[tardy ingot]

close enough to hit the pellets lol

[vague bridge]

ive always thought the hel shotgun had a very wide spread

like 'dont kill scout with it' spread

[past mesa]

Do you play on 55 fov

[tardy ingot]

i mean you should most probably not do it lol

but its firerate and stagger is high enough to hold into head

and probably get the kill

[vague bridge]

doesnt sound very reliable

[past mesa]

It is

But coz do you play on base fov

[ocean spindle]

why u wanna know

hel shottie shoots

[past mesa]

Cause this

The circle isn’t correct unless your on base

[ocean spindle]

what u mean correct

the circle... isnt corrct...

[past mesa]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

The circle isn’t correct on higher fov

[vague bridge]

i do play on base

[ocean spindle]

ah

[past mesa]

Fov has some issues with it

[past star]

@upper ginkgo

[soft crater]

how to solve this issue.
1: play on default FoV
2: Adapt or die

[past mesa]

Second solution

I mod the game an make it better

[soft crater]

I remember I triggered a Mod Nazi because I said I was using Cleaner clothes mod

[past mesa]

You do deserve the death penalty for that ngl

[soft crater]

[turbid horizon]

bro imagine having clean clothes

[soft crater]

the funny thing is. the guy was complaining about the "Hacker" who spawns in a shit ton of enemies

[turbid horizon]

bruh

[soft crater]

but couldn't differentiate the difference between mods and hacker

[turbid horizon]

Cool

[past mesa]

Well did you say your favourite kitchen utensils

If you don’t you are the “hacker “

[soft crater]

I'm Engineer.

not a hacker

🤓

[past mesa]

🥵

[lunar rain]

no clue where to put this, but thoughts on adding a gun jamming mechanic?

[turbid horizon]

no

[tropic vine]

^this

[cold quarry]

a hardcore mode for this game would be interesting if it was...well-made

[lunar rain]

like it wouldnt be a thing that happens every single time you fire, just if you were using the gun wrong in someway such as tapping a machine gun

but it would have to be well made like you said

[tropic vine]

i mean its is a good idea that fits with the gtfo style of things

could be something that happens after a random number of times you fire a weapon

[ocean spindle]

i feel like that would b more of a, annoyance
like, there's automatics u have to tap, pr, machinepistol, autopistol
if it was random, it would b brawls slip mechanic again

rng that just, it's there cause god knows

[tropic vine]

i think it would be fun to see, it could be connected to your pulse (higher the pulse higher chance the gun jams) but even then it should be something that happens per player like once every 10 mins or so

so that way you get that "Oh shit" feeling

or like every 5 mins on a reactor level

[ocean spindle]

i mean there isn't a way to really like pull back the lever on a gun, so like it would b a reload
and
guns with high reload would b a pain kdmskd a pr stuck, a machinegun
even more cause it could do it at any moment, so like
59 machinegun bullets stuck

and u die cause u can't reload another time

[tropic vine]

its just an idea

[ocean spindle]

...
fairs kdmskdm

i'm just
thinkin too much ahead i guess

sorry :3

[tropic vine]

nonnonoonno its good to think about it

but yea some weapons dont have anywhere to do a "Unjaming" animation

but to be fair, there are weapons that you can unjam stuff with (i.e heavy assault rifle. Red MG)

[lunar rain]

i feel like certain guns just wouldnt jam, due to their nature

[tropic vine]

thats fair

[hidden ridge]

Jamming weapons and that's it wouldn't make any sense imho.

Let's take one game where that happens: Stalker, let's say CoP for the sake of consistency.

You grabbing a used gun needs to have a disadvantage: the gun is gonna jam like shit.

[ocean spindle]

ah yes cry of pear

[hidden ridge]

My point is that it's never just a "jamming mechanic"

it needs to have a reason to exist and to be something that punishes you for SOME reason

Ergo I don't believe you could just add that and say "Alright. Now it's immersive."

It really doesn't need to be in GTFO

Personally, no offense, but I find it amusing when people suggest this or the "enemies should be able to hear ingame voice"

Why? For what purpose?

[tropic vine]

idk cause people are weird

[noble sierra]

For a dog to ruin your 2-hour run

[tropic vine]

but i do see your point

[hidden ridge]

Nor even that. We're in Discord and we're using Discord for VC so that wouldn't work either.

It's just such a bizzarre thing to suggest.

[cold quarry]

it would be really funny to sneeze and fuck up a run

idk how you'd reasonably implement gun jamming in this game though, unless it was the shitty kind where it's pure RNG.

[latent obsidian]

Gum jamming has a chance to occur if you hurriedly reloaded your gun (reload cancel) 🤭

[hidden ridge]

Not going to lie, only QoL thing that I can't really find any justification that are NOT game-balance related is the "we should be able to put stuff in lockers/boxes"

[cold quarry]

god that'd be nice

[latent obsidian]

I'm not sure how to feel about that one

[hidden ridge]

I get that it'd fuck up the game balance but... it makes sense?

[latent obsidian]

I wouldn't call that QoL for the impact it would have on balance

I think resource management can be annoying but if you could do that you'd be carting all of your excess gear with you zone to zone with little penalty save for the time you spent ferrying it around

The way it works currently actually encourages you to just use things before moving on, often

[hidden ridge]

I guess people would abuse that mainly for reactors?

[latent obsidian]

reactors would be hardest hit, yeah

just imagine your favourite level

R1C1 legit really would be organise for 10 minutes then sit in one spot for another 25

[hidden ridge]

I'm imagining me carrying stuff alone to first room to bridge

Fuck that it'd take aeons

No way I'd do that

[cold quarry]

r1c1 basically already is that

[latent obsidian]

It is but you actually have to do it under time constraints

the more I think about it the more I think it would be a bad idea

There is an aspect of decision making when managing resources with the current system I like

[hidden ridge]

I probably go under the assumption that in most cases it'd really be way too time intesive to... be abused?

[cold quarry]

it's one of those things where it's like "you can optimize your usage, if you wanna waste half an hour"

[latent obsidian]

It also would buff people using supply and med efficiency even more

[dry pumice]

They are immersive for the sake of immersion, usually.

Guns get dirty, yadi yada. Metro exodus did that and there was an element of ASMR to cleaning your gun, but the sheer rate at which it was getting dirty was disgusting.

You could go from a squiky clean gun to a jamming mess by walking 5 meters of average mud. It was kinda stupid sometimes.

Dark souls has that mechanic, but they slowly faded it out to the point that it's no longer present in Elden Ring.
In was fairly okay in DS1.
It was annoying in DS2 (the rate of degradation got doubled when they unlocked 60 FPS, LMAO).
In DS3 it was so slow that the mechanic was basically not there. The only way you could break your sword was to fight with it for 4 bonfires straight without resting.

[icy nacelle]

Doubling weapon degradation because of unlocked FPS Is an absolute meme ngl.

[bold atlas]

Anyone know when alt:R5 coming out

[turbid horizon]

soon tm

[icy nacelle]

I'm just over here waiting for my Heavy SMG Back, even if it's trash.

[bold atlas]

What is a heavy smg I’m suddenly interested

[ocean spindle]

a

heavy

... smg

:]

[bold atlas]

What does tm mean in this context

[bold atlas]

Amazing

[dry pumice]

Its a joke. Never seen Soon_TM meme? We don't have any ATAs or dates, only aproximate time frames.
Currently we get a new ALT rundown approx every 4 months. This one released like a month or two ago from my gut feeling so... 2-3 months left.

[ocean spindle]

tm means trademark in this contenxt

[dry pumice]

Its basically community speak for "whenever devs finish it".

[sturdy glen]

time frames are also kinda out of the picture after r4s drop as well

[cold quarry]

fromsoft try not to have the worst mechanically made games ever challenge

[dry pumice]

That's not really on FromSoft, that's the infamous B-team and their little development hell that DS2 went through.

[icy nacelle]

To be fair, I've also heard Halo 2 Anniversary having a higher FPS Also led to enemies reacting faster than they did in the original release making them harder, though I can't find any actual documentation on that now that I look for it.

[dry pumice]

You can see the seams of the unfinished content to this day.

[cold quarry]

nah it's fromsoft, they tie everything to framerate

that's why in 2022 they released ER and it still had a 60fps lock

and no ultrawide support. the technical side of their games is always awful

[dry pumice]

That probably too. At this point its probably an engine feature.

[cold quarry]

it is

[dry pumice]

Lets just hope Armored Core will use a different one.

[storm flint]

120 fps armored core, mech boys speedwalking their way to the last hot pocket (you)

[sinful cedar]

Do shadows have different behavior than normal enemies?
One of my friends said that they detect longer than normal enemies including silently detecting after the end of the thumping sounds.
I'm just curious if there's any merit to that

[ocean spindle]

mhhh not from what ik
they r like shooters, they move like shooters but they attack melee

i think thats it

i mean some of em at least

[sturdy glen]

nothing has different detection from anything else

funnily enough enemies stop detecting BEFORE the thumping sounds end

[next socket]

Weird question but

Are GTFO guns hitscan or projectile based?

[noble sierra]

hitscan

[next socket]

So you're telling me I have a skill issue?

[noble sierra]

Actually, it's slow projectile

[next socket]

Well

tbh

still a skill issue

I guess I just suck at shooting idk I can't figure it out

Like- pretty much only in this game

[noble sierra]

Then it has to be this game's fault

[next socket]

Nah I think it's just 'cuz it's PvE vs. PvP

I've only played PvP FPS games

at least, only enough PvP games to be good at them

[bold atlas]

Is it that you can’t track the targets or they don’t hit?

[soft crater]

[soft crater]

In short

Yes. It's a skill issue

Many people will not like that though.
The based experienced players would also just say point and shoot like it's that simple

[next socket]

It's because despite playing 200 hours I can't consistently head tap anything

It's very cringe and sad

Meanwhile it took 0.7 picoseconds in far cry 6 to learn to head flick 360 no scope heads no problem

[dry pumice]

Nah, that's normal.

I stopped getting better at FPS games some 10 years ago.

Absolutely nothing changed in my mode of operation.

[next socket]

I think enemy movement is just too unpredictable for me to learn it properly

[dry pumice]

It'd good enough.

[next socket]

I can't even melee moving targets consistently lmfao

[dry pumice]

That too, many pve shooters fail to make enemy movement predictable - they are too twitchy. Killing floor has that problem too.

[latent obsidian]

I rely quite a lot on waiting for enemy attack animations as that is when they are no longer unpredictable. Especially when using the sniper for hybrids or giant strikers, but also at close range when using hip fire revolver or combat shotgun to ensure a one shot. Its not always the best as sometimes you need to kill more threats quickly but I find it helpful as someone who isn't naturally gifted at shooters. (Caveat: I'm usually the host, this will almost definitely not work so well on client connection)

[hidden ridge]

You could use an aim trainer to get better, but of all the reasons to do so, "I want to get better at aiming so I'll be better at GTFO" isn't really stimulating

I grinded that shit for Apex aeons ago, surely ain't gonna do it again now that I've lost touch

[next socket]

Nah I can aim in other games just not GTFO

[glad pike]

get good

[latent obsidian]

back to the pit, Jared!

[glad pike]

NOOOOoooooooo...

[next socket]

I'm a disgusting 4 digit osu player and I've played in plenty of fps leagues

I'm just straight up dog shit stinky at GTFO

[latent obsidian]

I've watched a couple streams where people very highly rated in other fps games shoot like ass in GTFO funnily enough

though they were very new to the game

[next socket]

I'll watch people utilize an entire mag perfectly into children and track mothers but I will frequently miss stationary targets

[next socket]

Don't leak the logs I'm already on thin ice with the fbi

[latent obsidian]

yeah was gonna say I wouldn't call them children as well as in the same sentence as mothers too 💀

[next socket]

What are they called? Kids?

[latent obsidian]

babies is the typical term people use

[next socket]

I can them children

Babies is worse bruh

Lmfao

[latent obsidian]

on the face of it perhaps but when its widely used for that enemy it becomes normal to hear it in context

hearing someone call them children for the first time is weird

[next socket]

Yeah I don't play with others so I don't know the names of things

[tardy ingot]

hey at least thats close

when people call scouts „big shooters“

or „worm“

[next socket]

When me and my friends started we went through like 17 iterations of different names for every enemy type and no one knew what anyone was talking about

It was great

[vague bridge]

when we went through r1c1 and encountered the hybrids

we called them gorillas because of their stance

i like giving personal dubs to enemies

even when you know the official name it enhances the experience imo

[latent obsidian]

Yeah I knew what he meant but it sounds... off, right?

worm though xD

[hidden ridge]

I've heard chickens/big shooters being called "Sleeping scouts" once

[hearty aspen]

me and my friend been referring the sleeper as "frog" ever since we started playing lmao

1: because of their crackling sound
2: you cant tell me the sleeping pose of crawling one doesnt look like a frog lol

and now we calling snatcher "h3ntai"

[soft crater]

The fuck

When Scout is essentially a medium sized Shooter

But to call a Giant Shooter a Sleeping scout

[hearty aspen]

what the difference you would just blow their head off anyway

also staggering chicken by breaking their arms is quite a task because of the janky hitbox lol

also when im telling people knife can one tap scout too they dont believe me

[lunar rain]

Back of the head right?

Some people don’t think the high cal can one shot scouts

[tardy ingot]

Break leg

[hearty aspen]

both broken

[fierce nebula]

skill issue

[soft crater]

skill issue

[mystic canopy]

How do I get an optional objective to show up in the tracker for a mission?

[ocean spindle]

whatcha mean? like for the icon to appear on the screen

??

if so u just do the bulkhead scan for secondary and it'll appear in the door like another player

[mystic canopy]

No, the first time my group ran R1B1, we had an optional mission show up and was tracked on the top left corner

We didn't do the optional the first time, but now we can't get it to appear on subsequent runs, despite full clearing the whole map

[ocean spindle]

um, r1b1 doesn't have a secondary

u might were doin another mission

when u go into a secondary zone, the top left objective stack changes to whatever the objective is

then when u go out to the main zones, it changes again to the main objective

[mystic canopy]

I'm 100% we were doing R1B1 - It was only our second night playing. It was the one were you had to get 12 tags

[low willow]

You probably had a progression thing show up

[ocean spindle]

an optional mission...
are u referrin to like a key that was tracked below the main objective?

yeah maybe

[low willow]

Like "Door to zone XX"

[mystic canopy]

Oh

[low willow]

"Find information about KEY_COLOR_XXX"

something like that, i dont know the wording

[ocean spindle]

then u normally approach a door and it pops up automatically if it needs a key or whatever

the prompt that says "DOOR LOCKED, NEEDS KEY_ZZ_ZZZ" needs to show up

then it'll appear on the top left

[low willow]

Querying a key should make it show up too

[soft crater]

Secondary / Overload don't exist until you get to Rundown 4

Rundowns 1 - 3 didn't have secondary/Overload objectives

(Or Extreme instead of Secondary if you want the OG name)

[minor fractal]

Text telling you how to open doors is also not telling you that you have to open those doors.

Some doors locked by keys and such are optional.

[soft crater]

Rundown 1 ngl is really just a big terminal tutorial imo

otherwise levels take much longer

also Rayalot

do any other levels signify a item in it's specific Zone sector

in the objectives

I was doing a R1A1 and realized it showed the keys Zone and Sector

Zone_50 H
for example

[ocean spindle]

ah thats when u ping it
i think it happens on cells too but idk

ik they appear as the list query commands

but idk if they remain int he objective stack once u do it

[soft crater]

I know. I never seen it explicitly show the Sector in the objectives

I'd have to test it some but interesting to see it in R1A1

[ocean spindle]

yeh when u ping the thing appears on both the text n the top left :3

i always see it on keys

i guide myself with it sdmkm

[minor fractal]

I suspect it'd be keys only, but haven't tried HSUs.

[sinful cedar]

Is there a way to get unstuck?

My teammate just fell into a crevice and is unbale to get out

[craggy pier]

they can leave and rejoin if they're not the host

[sinful cedar]

They are unfortunately lol

They managed to get out, but is that the only way normally?

[craggy pier]

as far as I know yes

[ocean spindle]

i think if u fall through the floor u reappear up, but idk if that's for every map

but usually soft locks end up in restarts aham

[sinful cedar]

[minor idol]

should the matchmaking be removed and replaced?

[upper ginkgo]

it should have a lobby browser at the bare minimum

[past mesa]

I think we should just make it a single player game with bots

[upper ginkgo]

GTFO R4E1 solo (w/ 3 players)

[clever flame]

Any way to save the checkpoint even if you exit the expedition or close the game?
I would like to try weapons without having to eat the loading times over and over again.

[minor fractal]

No.

[hidden ridge]

You've asked that already

No

[valid estuary]

how to kill those monsters.when i come near them they gurgle and spot me

stealthily i mean

[jagged shore]

don't shine your flashlight on them for extended periods of time, don't move when they're yawning/glowing and especially not when they're pulsing/twitching

[dry pumice]

jul 2022

[jagged shore]

and don't get too close to them or you'll touch them and wake them up
your melee reticle will turn smaller when you're in range to hit them

[jagged shore]

i'm going to choose to believe that they got the game and joined the server but didn't play until now or something

[valid estuary]

they gurgle

they gurgle when i come close to them

like 6-7 feet away

[jagged shore]

then wait until they stop then take another few steps

if you're walking then they'll prob start again right away so you should crouch towards them

[valid estuary]

i think i got it.i crouch...they gurgle for a bit time then stop.

[jagged shore]

yeah

move when they're not gurgling

[dry pumice]

or glowing

but mostly gurgling

[valid estuary]

yo my bot teammates

how to tell them to stay down or something?

[jagged shore]

completely ignore them during stealth

they can't cause anything to wake up

but they also don't rigidly adhere to the stealth rules

and you can't make them help you kill guys either so that much is gonna be all on you

[valid estuary]

they move in front of them like a dumbass and cause them to aggro

[dry pumice]

they cant

sleeping enemies ignore bots' existence

[jagged shore]

^

[dry pumice]

they can pull out a shotgun and take a shot and nothing will care

[valid estuary]

they dont

mostly yes

but they go literally infront of them and they aggro

[dry pumice]

The only known occasion when they wake up anything is when they catch an enemy across the room in a crossfire

[jagged shore]

sleeping guys completely ignore bots
if guys are waking up and you're only playing with bots, you are doing something

for instance, maybe you don't realize you have your flashlight on and are pointing it right at a dude

[tardy ingot]

Which is still not confirmed

[jagged shore]

there was that clip of a bot shoving a sleeper

[tardy ingot]

Point is tho, bots dont wake up enemies. On the contrary, they are more likely to safe you from stuff waking up

[tardy ingot]

which then wasnt awake but in a pseudo state

[valid estuary]

alright maybe it really was my mistake

[jagged shore]

yeah true

[tardy ingot]

neither attacking, moving or screaming

it happens with enemy detection off aswell

[valid estuary]

how long do glowsticks glow?perma?

[tardy ingot]

100%, but dw. Its normal for beginners

if they last as long as foggies, then 70 seconds?

[jagged shore]

yeah, the stealth mechanics take a little bit to get used to, but once you learn the basics then you should be largely fine

[valid estuary]

aight

how to kill those big guys that shoot tentacles?

i destroy their dead but thats it

head

they still put out testicles

[jagged shore]

with a gun or a melee

pretty much you gotta kill them in one hit*, if you don't then they'll turn invincible until they spawn a wave of dudes

[jagged shore]

i guess i should clarify this was a question

[valid estuary]

a gun

alright i shouldnt apporach sleepers at all when they are glowing right?

[jagged shore]

you can move a small bit if you really need to
but especially try to avoid moving when they're pulsing

and you need to use a really strong gun and hit them in the head to be able to kill the tentacle guy in one shot

[valid estuary]

yo its actually really fun to bop their heads

[valid estuary]

aight ty

[hidden ridge]

Can confirm that they dont wake up even if a bot shoots them. I've had that happen when I gave a bot an hel gun, he shot an enemy I woke up and the other enemy, which was behind the first one, was awake but didn't move, only kept staring. I do not have that clipped.

[valid estuary]

this game actually good.i thought it would be trash to play solo.

[latent obsidian]

It will get harder to play solo as you go on, but I think its kinda nice for immersion and learning to begin solo

[fierce nebula]

the immersion is amazing when you start playing

[dry pumice]

This statenent will not age well. Once you start hitting more difficult missions - bots' issues will become bigger and bigger. Most notably they increase expedition times by like 50% because theyre worthless during exploration phase.

[dry pumice]

They're great for chill farming artifacts in A tiers though...

[soft crater]

goes into R4 A PEs

[dry pumice]

...except those

[tardy ingot]

Those are especially chill

:^ )

[civic wave]

Can't wait for r5a2 pe

[tardy ingot]

its gonna be a neat solo

[dry pumice]

Any new biomes in R5?

Floodway maybe? Haven't seen those in a long while.

[tardy ingot]

floodways

[dry pumice]

Me smartyboy

I miss the green moss

[tardy ingot]

now carry that r4c3pe lobby with that momentum!

[dry pumice]

No. No carry. Only boosters.

I got refill effi not long ago, should help. But if we die... Urgh.

Well, I have like a dozen of +ammo boosters too. If 2 mags difference is what gets everyone killed... Then 2 mags difference is what we eleminate.

[tardy ingot]

theres enough ammo artek

you got this

[dry pumice]

I bet were gonna wipe on scan again. Or when in the room by waking up a scout.

[sacred dew]

Take Hel rifle

[civic wave]

I'm free today if you want to take me with you

[dry pumice]

Last time we got lucky with charger spawns - the route to turbine was clear. The game won't be kind again.

I'm at work for next 5+ hours, but I'll ping you.

[civic wave]

Alrighty

[dry pumice]

How big is the hip fire spray of HEL pistol?

I'm curious about bringing that, but I'm worried its not gonna help me solo a giant charger.

[hidden ridge]

I'd rather not bring that for chargers

Personally, since I'm sure the part everyone struggles with is just the ||charger error|| prepare with anything you can to minimize that

[dry pumice]

HEL rifle is the no brainer at the monent. Nothing deletes those a-holes like it does. Probably nerf pending because it's usage is gonna fuckin' skyrocket because of the charger spam.
Mains though... You need crowd control, you need DPS, you need something that will save you from giant when it comes rushing for you...
And, I'm not touching revo.

HEL shotgun so far seems my best bet. I can keep chargers at bay and can solo drop giants in a pinch.
...
Worthless against tank though.

[civic wave]

Tank is a small part of the mission

So not the be all end all for choosing your guns

[sacred dew]

dunno about SOLOing giant chargers but seems like a good gun if you're playing with a team. stagger giants in less than a sec with 9 bullets.

[sage knot]

If you love using hel shotty I can respect that, it's your game and your loadout. But it just isn't the best bet for C3

I think in general hel revolver + hel rifle / carbine + chokemod, and a MG here and there will be some of the easiest loadout for C3, but of course every performs differently on different weapons

[dry pumice]

I mean I almost beat the level with it. I was the last person to run out of ammo. From 10% to 80% of extraction scan I just held LMB.

[sage knot]

the extraction scan is hardly a good position to be utilising hel shotty to it's fullest, but again I'm not sure what your team died to

[turbid horizon]

Yeah idk what R4C3 extract looks like but if chargers have a long line of sight to you, you’re gonna get licked so much because of their extra range

[dry pumice]

They died to terminal lack of ammo.

[latent obsidian]

at that point I would be using the hel shotgun sparingly to stagger chargers while my team hammered them

But it could easily be too far gone by then

[dry pumice]

The problem you maul the team too. Helshot is not known for its precision.

[next socket]

Is that the one with the ||tank || in the second to last room

[turbid horizon]

No idea lol

[winged turtle]

there is ||a tank || in overload

[next socket]

Oh no that's the fog map

Yeah I haven't beat that level

I tried it last night but put the key into overload out of sheer monkey brain neuron activated mode

[winged turtle]

That levels going to be truly insane with three bots

[next socket]

And then died at the first m scan

[turbid horizon]

Did Artek ever beat it?

[next socket]

"put a fog repeller here"

"I will do it"

Narrator: "he didn't do it"

[winged turtle]

uhhh artek is still working on that one, i think it was D1 the clear he got

[next socket]

/w boys?

Bots* omfg phone

[dry pumice]

Nope. I finished E1 like 2 days ago. Took 2 times less attempts too, lul. Granted majority of them happen in first 15 minutes of the level and not in fucking 50 minute mark.

[next socket]

You haven't beat r4c3 either?

[dry pumice]

Not no in PE.

[next socket]

(bots?)

[tardy ingot]

and i remember you saying you had 2 people who knew the map very well

[dry pumice]

Main and secondary are chill, I could even bot it. But overload can suck my ass.

[tardy ingot]

vs r4c3 seemingly being mostly newer guys

[next socket]

I'm just absolutely failing to get bots to throw their fog repellers

[next socket]

Overload is waiting for you to suck its ass first

[dry pumice]

That and one guy brought like +100% supply efficiency, could refill my precision Rifle from 0 to 65% in a single use. We had many problems, but lack of supplies wasn't one.

[craggy pier]

the only thing bots are good at throwing is the game

[tardy ingot]

well… that makes the first part easy

[dry pumice]

Con: he was insufferable on the comms. The Lord giveth, the Lord compensateth.

[next socket]

Bots are also insufferable on the comms sometimes

[dry pumice]

Hey, Hackett is cool.
I can't stand Dauda, however. I dont even know why... Something about his voice rubs me wrong. Giving him Biotracker yesterday was a mistake, I'm never doing that again.

[arctic marten]

Is it because you hate black people

[dry pumice]

That wouldn't explain my fondness of Coach.

[arctic marten]

Doesn’t count, everybody likes Coach

[dry pumice]

I like Louis too.

[arctic marten]

This is the “I have black friends” argument

[dry pumice]

Still counts.

[arctic marten]

No

[dry pumice]

That's you right now
https://youtu.be/UFjjtYRVtmk

[sacred dew]

Dauda did nothing wrong so shut yo black ass right now ni...a

[arctic marten]

Beat r4c3pe to prove you’re not racist

[sacred dew]

ughhhhh

too hard

[dry pumice]

Calm down there, we had banhammers for less

[sacred dew]

can't

I might try to take booster next time

[arctic marten]

Yea cause you suck

[sacred dew]

seems like hel gun + sniper sentry with boosters is what you need

[dry pumice]

Negative

[arctic marten]

Sniper sentry 😂

[dry pumice]

Brought +60% cpu on a sniper

It ran out of ammo during final main scan and was never brought back online again

[sacred dew]

first scan is kinda hard but it's doable

second is kinda whack cause I run out of foggies

[winged turtle]

"i don't hate black characters! Uncle Rufus(no relation) is one of my favorite characters of all time!"

[weary mauve]

Hello, have the maps changed for rundowns since 2020? Specifically the R3D1 map

[dry pumice]

Tiny bit, most people wouldn't notice.

Slightly different rooms and layouts, objectives are the same.

[weary mauve]

Ok, thanks, anyone have a recent R3D1 map?

I can't find any through google

[noble sierra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2555136854

[weary mauve]

Thank you so much

[next socket]

Hackett placed down his sniper sentry and then stood in front of it, immediately downing himself

Is he suicidal?

[hearty aspen]

somehow i do wonder if the dev really want to troll around like every single time we doing alarm and if 3 person of team down and there wasnt any giant in the first few waves

the next wave that spawn on the last person would be like, alway guaranteed to have at least a giant lol

R4E1 ,3 of our team down during the code and the last person have to route back out of the reactor room (nothing inside the bulkhead area awake) and somehow there a big shadow and 1 normal big guy in the mix and they got him lol,whereas on other run where my team managed to survive till the end there wasnt a single big one among all the waves that spawn

[civic wave]

I think that's probably just rng

Or who knows, it could be the fabled heat mechanic which I do not fully understand nor can I explain

[hearty aspen]

that happened to me so often that im actually wondered if it just real bad luck or intended lel

[past mesa]

Just bad luck

[craggy pier]

no such thing is bad luck, only d0cr3ds infallible intention

[hearty aspen]

i thought d0c retired?

[craggy pier]

hes coming back for r5

[civic wave]

He walks among us

[craggy pier]

[hearty aspen]

he might be him,he might you,he could even be me, and he coul-

[dry pumice]

I don't remember a single giant shadow among the waves of E1

They are only in stealth sections

So:
A) someone awoke one (including the incoming waves accidentally finding one hiding in a dark corner)
B) someone be moddin'

[next socket]

Just decompile and read the source code 4head

[hearty aspen]

yes they are,but somehow THERE IS ONE among the shadow reactor wave that spawned on the last person lol

like,how tf?

[civic wave]

You can get them very rarely within reactor or scout waves

[dry pumice]

jeez

more rng, just what we needed

[hidden ridge]

Bad

Dauda is best

When I hear Dauda's voicelines I feel optimistic

[winged turtle]

Dauda is goated

[dry pumice]

(In a perfectly empty room)
"nonoNoNoNONO~"
"I don't wanna kn~"
"The monsters! There's too many!! THEY'RE CLOSING IN!!!"

Or my "favorite":
"I don't like the scanner. It keeps finding monsters. I think the scanner is the problem"
^ the best part about this one is that i don't know if he's sarcastic or if he actually believes that and thinks that scanner actually attracts bad fortune somehow.

Oh and the best part? All his voicelines are bugged. The other characters don't know when he's done talking and he doesn't know when they're done talking, so they just keep keep talking in unison over each other.

[dry pumice]

Okay, here's something that's been bothering me today.

I was scrolling through wiki out of boredom and noticed something.

None of you people seem to ever talk about the Double Tap Rifle. I don't think it has been mentioned once in the last half-a-year in these chats.
What's up with that? You all collectively forgot it exists? Was it that bad? The wiki page claims it was quite nice.

[ocean spindle]

it is not

available

[dry pumice]

No no, not that.

Guns are brought back. Everyone waits for the Scattergun, the Sawed Off, even heavy SMG has been mentioned.

But Double Tap dodged every opportunity to be mentioned.

[past mesa]

DTR

[dry pumice]

No one remembers it exists.

[past mesa]

has been mentiioned

#gtfo-chat message

[ocean spindle]

i mean i could say burst rifle wasnt been mentioned or that rifle wasnt either

[tropic vine]

It'll probably come in a later rundown

[ocean spindle]

but they were

... yeah i mean
obv ksmdkm

[tropic vine]

I'm going to call it the 2 burst rifle

[weary mesa]

DTR is pretty great with one burst on smalls

[tardy ingot]

1. it was mentioned
2. it appeared in only 1 rundown (shared with hel pp, rifle, scattergun and heavy smg, for guns that were missing)
3. it wasnt super broken or garbage (sawed off is ass, scattergun was busted)

Why heavy smg gets mentioned more than DTR? I think its cuz of HAR. Both were „heavy“ mains in r4 and then r5. So theres some connection

[ocean spindle]

also ive heard people call it ass too

[tardy ingot]

its mid

^appearantly

its now the only gun i never touched aside from seeing that i dont like the feel back in r5

[ocean spindle]

if a chicken has a hole in their chest does it mean u can actually just miss ur sniper shootin through it

[turbid horizon]

I believe so

[tropic vine]

pretty sure you can, since the same thing happened to me with a hybrid like once with a sniper

[rotund jolt]

do secondary missions give any rewards?\

[winged turtle]

a sense of pride and accomplishment
so
no

[rotund jolt]

lol

[tropic vine]

but you get to brag about it

and cry when you fail it

[winged turtle]

and look at all the numbers that all match

[tropic vine]

unless you're my dumbass

for pe its always like 4, 2, 2, 1

[native sun]

They don't give an additional cosmetic just for completing the secondary, but there are often cosmetic rewards for clearing a certain number of secondary/overload/PE missions

At least, that was the case for R7, I must admit I didn't pay any attention to the rewards for R4, so they might've done it differently for R4

[ocean spindle]

um no

those r gone since alt r1

[past mesa]

What about the secret cosmetics

Did you tell them about those

The ultra hidden ones

[native sun]

No :( because i don't have them and don't want to be reminded of their existence

[past mesa]

There is a way

Although not a sanctioned one apparently

[cold quarry]

...oh?

[next socket]

Pretty sure R6 worked like this

You got rewards for each expedition

An additional reward for all expeditions cleared

And then every even number of secondary/overload you beat you got another

[tardy ingot]

Iirc
you got rewards for all story expeditions, rewards for number of mains cleared. Then for number of secondaries and overloads

PE got you nothing

R7 did it the same way afaik until alt r1

[next socket]

Yeah I will correct myself, PE is only a challenge, not a gatekeep to cosmetics (I think)

[weak root]

+0.3% projectile resistance for completing 10 PE levels

[next socket]

Here is what rundown 6 looks like

#gtfo-media message

[fierce nebula]

didnt R7 have cosmetics for finishing PE

before 10C reverted back to only main

[tardy ingot]

only sec/overload iirc

Im 100% sure on this since we were malding about no PE rewards

[soft crater]

PE itself has never had rewards aside from Bragging rights

[dry pumice]

Yeah. That being said getting 3 apparel drops at once was a reward on itself.

[soft crater]

4

Time it with a Limited drop

Anyhow

[noble sierra]

Iirc OG R4E1 requires one PE to unlock

[soft crater]

In terms of Cosmetics

But yeah prior to when you needed specific completions to actually proceed

[hidden ridge]

Weird question but which levels do not start in a room that has a room divider?

As in, you start in A and B is connected through A by a door

[past mesa]

I would need to check I feel like some of the elevator tiles can be both connected and not depending on markers

Like the r7b3 isn’t that a then b ?

[hidden ridge]

I've no idea tbh

[tardy ingot]

dont think theres a single one?

[rocky nacelle]

Mb a dumb question but is it possible to destroy an enemy's head without directly hitting the head? I thought SR is always a one shot kill on giant strikers, but noticed a couple times I destroyed the head and they still had fair amt of hp left

P sure nobody else had shot them as well

[civic wave]

Yeah if you hit the shoulder the head will visually disappear

however, the head hitbox is still there

in essence it makes the head invisible

[past mesa]

It isn’t real

[rocky nacelle]

Oh interesting, skill issue then

Thought I might just be wrong on the numbers as I never used sniper before

[past mesa]

You shot the shoulder

Not the head

[craggy pier]

anyone have some tool loadout recommendations for R4D2 main?

[past mesa]

C foam

Bio mines

[craggy pier]

1 sentry?

[past mesa]

It doesn’t matter

You shoot class 2,3,4

Perma foam 5 7

[craggy pier]

thanks

do u think it's possible with bots if I take the cfoam? @past mesa

I tried without cfoam and died at the tiny room scan (class 7 I think?)

[winged turtle]

that one is rough without foam, they spawn super close and pop around the corners real quick too.

bots will be able to hop to most of the scans while you permafoam, that should def work with all bots

[craggy pier]

might give it another try with le bots thanks

[past mesa]

You definitely can I might funnel class 5 instead of perma foaming then

And class 6 I would use both doors

Is it just main or pe

[craggy pier]

just main I just want my drip

honestly I should probably just LFG but I clearly brought the wrong tools the first time

[past mesa]

You got it just spend all doors then

There is early res rooms that you don’t need to do surges for

Go in them you will be fine

[craggy pier]

oh that reminds me wtf is the fog turbine for do I need it if I'm just doing main?

[sturdy glen]

no

[craggy pier]

cool thanks

[craggy trellis]

is there a spaw cap tied to an error alarm? or will the error wave pile up until reaching the general spawn cap?

[past mesa]

It depends on the error

[craggy trellis]

r4c3 charger error after hsu scan

[past mesa]

I believe they will just pile up but most of the time they are long dead before next spawn

[dry pumice]

They will pile up

Shoot on sight

[midnight tulip]

do tank bubbles pop when shot like mother bubbles do?

[turbid horizon]

Yes

[winged turtle]

I have seen lag bad enough that they don't pop. But that's a buff not a hindrance, it means some people have more target for longer

[timid rampart]

Can a burst cannon kill a charger scout? And if so does it need to be to the back of the charger scout?

[tropic vine]

it can kill a charger scout

dont think it maters if its in the back or the frount

[jagged shore]

definitely can from the front

[soft crater]

idk

5 Bullets (5x19)

vs

60 hp

Mistakes were made. My team is downed and the scout woke up

[sacred dew]

why you miss?

[soft crater]

I didn't miss.

I never said I was aiming for the enemies.

[past mesa]

Based

[river dove]

is it smart to do r7b3 overload before completing the map for the first time? I play with one friend and two bots

[ocean spindle]

i think its good to like just see what ur up against, for me is always do all sectores, die, then do main only then just try to complete all of it

and with this level u might die on the secondary n restart but the Overload has a checkpoint so u can just die and then do main

[minor fractal]

Probably wouldn't be smart to get stuck on it for 10+ attempts, but whether you attempt it at all is up to preference.

[river dove]

we tried the level once and then died and ran out of time. we're kinda stuck on this level and r7c1

[ocean spindle]

well, if u havent u can also like do some of r1 r2 r3 r4 before tacklin r7, cause r7 rn is prob the hardest like rundown, or at least in pairs with r4, so u can practice on those levels

but well i think r7b3 PE is too hard if u r strugglin on c1, so maybe just a Main and thats it could b better

since the overload in that level its pretty brutaal

[solemn flint]

1 question

[turbid horizon]

honestly I put them at same difficulty

[solemn flint]

did they buff gun?

how tha fuc is reload feel diffrent