#gtfo-related-questions

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minor fractal
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GTFO is all about going through the rooms

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and doing the scans

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And R4B3 has a lot of going through the rooms

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and doing all of the scnas

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Lots of different scans, too.

next socket
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What do you dislike about R7D1?

past mesa
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It is a big level with a lot going on

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True, but it's a D level

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Surely it should be like that?

past mesa
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It has some of the most unique bugs in gtfo

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LOL

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That's true

past mesa
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That are only available in that level

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Surely that's not a fault of the level, and a fault of the programming, right?

past mesa
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It is a fault that it is a big level

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With a lot going on

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True

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I don't like how it's not do-able solo

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without rng

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that's dumb asf

past mesa
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Yup only level in the game like that

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They also gave us a new objective

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Yeah.. I had to.. cringe.. talk to my friends

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to beat that level

past mesa
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That doesn’t work unless you use the tile

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Is R7D2 beatable with bots?

past mesa
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Yup

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I haven't tried it yet

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Nice

past mesa
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Just annoying

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Well- I tried it

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But only to get a feel for the level

past mesa
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It is a error level

next socket
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Yeah

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And a tough error alarm, too

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Not just a few smalls every now and again

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but actual waves

past mesa
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Yup

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Getting one friend just to keep the bots in place will be helpful tbh

next socket
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My friends and I beat R7D1 and were like "Hell yeah guys! Nice job! Let's go D7D2 nect 😎 "

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And then... I was never able to get them together again

past mesa
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The solo with bots invokes some rushing and knowing where everything is

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And where things need to go

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Basically cheese knowledge

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I dislike those things

past mesa
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Well not really just fast knowledge

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You really don’t want to waste to much time

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yeah

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gotta burn through the terminals asap

past mesa
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You probably have a lot of leeway

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Dont need sub 6 min rng

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Tbh I wish GTFO had more content that I could solo without cheese

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I beat all of ALT 4's C levels solo basically day 1 because I love this gamer so much

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But when it comes to overloads and D/E levels I don't care to cheese

neon gust
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You want alarms to be more challeging? easy fix, enemies should have a chance of spawning on waves within an alarm

past mesa
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If only a 1 was a 25

neon gust
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you pulling the class 4 on r4d2, you get a mixed wave of enemies

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instead of just poopy one set of enemy

past mesa
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Yup crazy

neon gust
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only strikers
only chagers

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crazy

past mesa
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To bad a 1 isn’t a 25

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If only

neon gust
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is this a heat its bugged joke and im not getting it

past mesa
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Yeah it is

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It is just a single number that is wrong

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Basically the entire system is turned off because a 25 was changed to a one

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Like boss population not spawning is fine

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We can work with 4 in the spawn block but even that is kinda impossible

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And if you change it now I would imagine some levels would become a tad harder

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Random giants in r4e1 would be more common

noble sierra
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Apparently boss population still can be spawned. A few days ago I had a pub R4D2 game and the overload alarm spawned 4 giant chargers. Very rare (compare to OG) but if the host didn't reboot the game for long enough if can still spawn boss population.

next socket
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I just want gtfo rizz

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without touching grass (having friends to play with)

lost flame
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Does the tool ammo booster increase the maximum tool storage too, or just how much you start with

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Nvm my dumbass forgot googling was a thing

loud wagon
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yeah more ammo at start

dry pumice
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Only more starting ammo, unfortunately.

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Increasing the pool would be amazing, but alas

vague bridge
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do you think the complex is really cold or really hot

hidden ridge
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Underground mines can get really hot

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Google tells me the deepest mine can have temps reach 65 Celsius more or less

icy cave
hidden ridge
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😄

tardy ingot
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its definetly on the hotter side

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would explain plant growth well

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i feel like the large open rooms would definetly help in keeping it cooler than that tho

icy cave
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They have no bathrooms, why would they have airco 🤔

dry pumice
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Cold.

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Cold and humid.

uneven gulchBOT
# icy cave They have no bathrooms, why would they have airco 🤔

||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless. I must use my bucket true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will …||
||My bucket and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit….||
||My bucket is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my bucket clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will ….||
||Before God, I swear this creed. My bucket and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.||
||So be it, until victory and there is no enemy, but peace!!||

||https://i.imgur.com/LX0YKiG.png||

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solemn flint
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how do we have so many bucket

icy cave
solemn flint
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is the mod contact broken?

uneven gulchBOT
soft crater
solemn flint
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hmmmm

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imposter hmmm

soft crater
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that's not Vergils potato

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That Peter's potato

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Impoosta

radiant quest
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does people still play this game?

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I'm having a hard time matchmaking

ocean spindle
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helloo, dont use ingame matchmakin it is stinky n stuff

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u can find people with the LFG channels

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.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT
ocean spindle
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just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

soft crater
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Most newbies who don't wanna read the .t lfg command

ocean spindle
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like 0.7 of the newies :b

hearty aspen
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tunneling sleeper can be whack sometime

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rule is they alway take path with less obstacles but sometime they just want to bang on some door that we didnt mean to let them lol

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not sure if it because we stayed too close to those doors

dry pumice
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Honestly I can attest to that. Recently I've been experiencing sleepers going out of their way to break 2 doors instead of banging on the single cfoamed one. I have no idea what is wrong with them.

I guess ALT sleeper variants got one chromosome too many.

ocean spindle
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didnt they always did that

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i never like had an instance where in a case with two paths they took the one that was foamed

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even if it meant goin through more doors

dry pumice
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Vets made me believe that a door is a door and sleepers will always take the path that requires them to break less shit, but apparently that's no longer true.

low willow
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1 room away they will go through an already open/broken door if they can

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Any more than that and it's somewhat random afaik

tardy ingot
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its random due to their spawnpoint being random

otherwise its based on their distance to doors (when 2 rooms or more away)

dry pumice
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So... They will pick 2 doors with short distance between instead instead of 1 in a long hallway?
(thinnking that one big room scan in R4D2, the one with double scan if you go for turbine)

jovial pasture
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r4d2 with turbine? uh, boring

tardy ingot
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1 in a long hallway?

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artek, the spawn and pathing rules are simple

spark wolf
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enemies also HAVE to break a door if its within range and the room on the other side is less rooms away from the player than the current room

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so thats another reason why leaving a door open may not always work

dry pumice
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R4D2, double scan door room.
There are 2 paths:

  • the S hallway with doors both ends;
  • the weird half-rounded room (R7C1 fog terminal style).

For whatever reason they prefer going through 2nd path with both doors closed, instead of the S room with one.

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I do not understand their priorities.

past mesa
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So look at the room they spawn in

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It is very likely that they spawn close to the s door and will try to break it down because the get sucked into it

dry pumice
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So I'm getting fucked by RNG again is what you're telling me.

spark wolf
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if just one guy gets pushed close enough to the closed door they will break it

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cuz it brings them from 2 rooms away to 1 room away

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they dont even have to spawn on the door

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just passing by the door is enough

dry pumice
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Okay.

past mesa
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You can open 3 doors to funnel them

dry pumice
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If I will only close the inner layer doors - which one will they go for?

past mesa
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But even that will sometimes not work with sleeper pushing

dry pumice
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The end of S hall or the other side?

past mesa
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other side

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But it is rng base still

dry pumice
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Horseshit

past mesa
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If you get one charger chose the “wrong path” they will break down door

tardy ingot
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@dry pumice why not just perma foam that alarm lol

past mesa
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It is the better strategy

spark wolf
past mesa
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Should we kick them while their down

dry pumice
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I'm trying to save doors on turbine alarm, but then chargers pick whichever door tickles their fancy and it's always not the one I pre-foamed.

weary mesa
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Do both alarms at once easy fix

spark wolf
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kite to the first zone

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like the dev intended

icy cave
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don't do it

dry pumice
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And then do overload at 99% infection with 1% HP?

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Big brain ideas only on this channel.

hearty aspen
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r2d2? you just pull the entire fog room lol

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r4d2, i would do the same too on cell room below

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scout might be a problem but ye

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path to extract after secondary needed the turbine still

icy cave
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We did without turbine twice. less infect, one more person shoots, less problems

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Only the guy with cargo will get a lot

hearty aspen
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you cheese the spawn cap with shadow? lul

icy cave
dry pumice
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That would explain it because I don't understand how only one guy gets infected.

icy cave
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After that it's just about foaming doors

icy cave
sage knot
# dry pumice R4D2, double scan door room. There are 2 paths: - the S hallway with doors both ...

this sounds a bit overcomplicating or maybe I'm just confused. For the double alarm room there's 2 paths from where the enemy can come from and there's 2 doors each side that you can foam/mine. Pulling both alarms at the same time is a bit more economical on your resources but I would do the charger alarm scans first as they are more problematic. There are also 2 small vertical ladders in the room that you can foam to further collision block enemies to buy more time to finish scans. Place a shotgun sentry next to one of those ladders can pretty much hold off majority of the wave

icy cave
tardy ingot
hearty aspen
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actually it like 15% hp at 85% infection max? lol

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unless you stay dead in the fog

tardy ingot
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ye

dry pumice
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But the fog will be literally everywhere up to your neck, no?

tardy ingot
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nope

hearty aspen
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not alway

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the tank room and extraction have 0 fog

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given if you make it there

tardy ingot
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the only zone that is rly foggy is the class 6 alarm zone

icy cave
hearty aspen
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pretty much

icy cave
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It's a speed thing

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the turbine is just not worth it

hearty aspen
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just make sure you have enough door behind though

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shadow is slow af

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and if they reach cap somehow

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you wouldnt even see charger

icy cave
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Grab tools throw everything on foam and go

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we kept all the tools of the ovl zones there just to be sure we had tons of foam for the run to extract

soft crater
icy cave
sage knot
icy cave
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competent is key word here

soft crater
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I still abhor that guy.

icy cave
icy cave
soft crater
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A cocky experienced player that misled newbies

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Next to misinformation

icy cave
soft crater
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I may be a clown but goddamn

soft crater
past mesa
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You can just post our names

soft crater
past mesa
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Bringing newbies to r7d2 is a tradition of the trade

soft crater
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It's all fun and games often times

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It's just the guy was talking to them as if it's actual beginner training

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R6C3

past mesa
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LOL

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Here you need to stealth

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Stay low and go quite

hearty aspen
past mesa
hearty aspen
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that is just too obivious lol

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also spoiler them about daddy too soon isnt fun

craggy pier
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@past mesa gtfo related question, is that your dog?

past mesa
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Gtfo related answer “no and yeah” I work in a pet store so I see a lot of dogs this on is named salt and they are one of the dogs that “works” in the store

craggy pier
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very cute dog

past mesa
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Yup young hope to get them adopted in the next week or so

craggy pier
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❤️

past mesa
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I have more dog photos

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To many in fact

craggy pier
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I'm much more a cat person but that dog is extremely cute won't lie

gritty dust
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hi, I'm new and for the love of god me and my friend can't finish r1c1, is it even doable with 2 bots?

past mesa
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It is

past mesa
gritty dust
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I guess I need tips

tardy ingot
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nod
its even doable solo without bots (tho obviously needs a ton of experience for that)

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what tools/guns are you and the bots running?=

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where are you holding

gritty dust
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sentries and 1 scanner

tardy ingot
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which sentrys

gritty dust
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burst

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and 1 shotgun

past mesa
gritty dust
past mesa
tardy ingot
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the shotgun needs super specific cases to be good. Its also very inefficient

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id recommend taking 3 burst sentries and bio

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what guns are you using?
where are you holding with the sentries?

gritty dust
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we camp in the reactor

tardy ingot
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try holding somewhere else (the bridge is a good spot)

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have 2 bots on 1 person. And the other guy runs to reactor to put the code in

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means you are closer to ressources

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and its a better sightline

gritty dust
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and the tight hole could really help me out since I use Hel Gun and Hel Revolver

past mesa
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Yeah now your getting it

tardy ingot
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the bridge itself does a better job at that (lining them up) but ye :>

gritty dust
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Which sentry has better ammo efficiency? Sniper or burst?

past mesa
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Depends on sleepers

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And bio pings

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Both are good

gritty dust
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ty for the help

civic wave
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Also you don't need to use all 3 sentries at the start, use them smartly to save tool amm9

upper ginkgo
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someone should make an r1c1 copypasta already

past mesa
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r1c1

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is one of the levels that exists

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best hard wall in the game tbh

upper ginkgo
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literally every reactor mission

sturdy glen
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does anyone know striker limb hp

past mesa
past mesa
sturdy glen
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I cant find it anywhere on there, granted I didnt look for long

tardy ingot
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10

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its easy to remember with their head hp

sturdy glen
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ive just never bothered cuz you never care about limb breaks on smalls

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and damage calcs are always for 1 tap

gritty dust
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Saw your propic

upper ginkgo
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nipahh

gritty dust
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< 3

winged turtle
spark wolf
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Oh a wave, better get to the bridge hold 😴
Oh another wave, better get to the bridge hold 😴
The sentry ran out, refill it quick 😴
Oh a wave, better get to the bridge hold 😴

ocean spindle
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r7d2
oh i need to hold
ah hold a bit back
ah hold a bit back
resource
ah hold a bit back
boss
door
extract

winged turtle
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Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like sniper rifle is useful (especially for hybrids that will launch a 40 dmg barrage from across the map). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

winged turtle
ocean spindle
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no dont think so it is a pretty good copypasta :O
nice

winged turtle
ocean spindle
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tho i guess the only thing owould b like 'with bots u do all the same and hold in the same place but calculate when to run to the reactor and move resources even if u can before startin

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just a lil

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like

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line

winged turtle
civic wave
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props to r1c1 for being the first reactor though

icy cave
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R1 is the most bland and boring rundown

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so its is BETTER for new players to get it over with first

winged turtle
ocean spindle
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tbh r3a3 might b like better to start but u need to go through a2 and a1 first
and if u don't like know hybrids u could die

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and r7 even more

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...

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nevermind i just checked u said a1

icy cave
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by pushing new players to R3/R7 you will impact their enjoyement of the game during R1 negatively

ocean spindle
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then maybe but still i feel like it's a lot at the same time

icy cave
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thus giving them a worse experience

winged turtle
icy cave
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and its egostitical cause its the vets who are bored out of their mind when carrying newbs

civic wave
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as if they aren't already negatively impacting their enjoyment of r1 by virtue of me projecting

icy cave
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you are projecting your boredom on them

winged turtle
ocean spindle
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...???

civic wave
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"come on how is it fun to go so slow, wait how do you wipe on the first alarm of the mission?"

ocean spindle
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if u don't need to like, project ur boredom

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don't play r1

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let people that like r1 play r1

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?????

icy cave
ocean spindle
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AAA

icy cave
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which is understandable

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but a new player does not know better

ocean spindle
civic wave
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ngl though it's pretty fun when a new player gets neuron activation and immediately combat shotguns any big striker

ocean spindle
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why won't u like leave people that like the r1 rundown or find it like, at least entertaining play it

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instead of torturing urself

icy cave
ocean spindle
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u kinda implied it

icy cave
ocean spindle
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maybe

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i never said i wasn't fuckin stupid :3

winged turtle
icy cave
winged turtle
icy cave
ocean spindle
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i said it don't worry wheat!!

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it was for me by me every me !

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blame slendo not slendo!

winged turtle
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unironically,
R3A3 is a better intro for players to reactors
R3A2 is an interesting intro to poison fog, blood doors, and gen clusters
i still enjoy R1, because i still enjoy teaching new players new things. and R3 piques curiosity with what this game can ask you to do, and R1 doesn't.
R3 is a much better hook for new and curious gamers, instead of people who need to learn to walk.

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normalize going through A and B tiers first! there is so much game now than there was before!

dry pumice
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But do we start them with weaker levels and let them warm up to better ones, or do we teach them good levels first and then force them to grind through the crappy ones?

winged turtle
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people don't have to clear every level with only PEs every time

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no one has to go back to R1 if they don't want to

dry pumice
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I don't know, generally its not good when games start strong and then fall off.

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I bought the game for 30$ - i better experience every pixel and map vexel it has to offer me

ocean spindle
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in my opinion like, r3 is a bit way more complicated than r1 cause like yeah r1 is simpler and tbh harder in funky ways than r3
but r3 introduces too much too fast, and tbh i think a3 might b harder for newer teams that c1
in a3 u get codes from terminals that they need to learn waves of bigs similar to c1 but w/o a holdin point alarms in stealth and all of that together and with bots it may just b one of the funkiest levels, i think even harder than c1 just based on the alarm and the resource rng that if u dont get lucky u dont find some
also a2 like, maybe its better to do a1 since it has some fog and infection and then a2 but then its blood doors too and

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its a mess

winged turtle
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and mixing in what everyone is saying are bad levels helps them go by easier anyway

ocean spindle
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i would think maybs the best way is like, a1 b1 b2, then maybe r2 some levels and then r3 till like a2 and then come back to c1, but of course just plannin all this is complicated

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and stupidly precise so not many players will care

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and just try to do whatevs they want

craggy pier
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Guys will r5 cure my leprosy?

ocean spindle
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no

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maybe

winged turtle
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yes

ocean spindle
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depends

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:3

winged turtle
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and i think trying to create a list of levels to complete in a certain order is too hands on, but what if we just said, "levels get harder the deeper tier you do to. if you get stuck on R1C1, try other A and B tiers."

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thats mostly my point

icy cave
winged turtle
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ehh it depends on the person. i showed my friend this game and they literally left cause they thought it was boring after R1B2

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and my reassurances didn't work

ocean spindle
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after u

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give em the copypaste i guess

winged turtle
ocean spindle
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they play some b levels and then comeback for c1

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then c2 is a whole another fkin amazin surprise with chargers!

winged turtle
ocean spindle
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i mean when i started on r7 and then move to r1, i wasnt disappointed

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nor when i did r2

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nor when i did r3

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i was like 'cool shit!'

hearty aspen
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tried to hold a wave of charger using hel sg + combat

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it whack lol

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group up the wave by staggering them with the hel

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then dump the whole mag of combat

dry pumice
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i've been thinking doing that as well

hearty aspen
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still got hit but hell it drop them like fly

dry pumice
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the shotgun dude

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no range capability though...

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hurts a lot

hearty aspen
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yeah

ocean spindle
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hell yeah thats the loadout i went for some levels

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they cool as fuck

dry pumice
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a single shooter and you're out of options

ocean spindle
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but the reloads hurt

hearty aspen
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yup

icy cave
hearty aspen
ocean spindle
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people with 50 hours are not bored of r1

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people with like 200 maybe would

turbid horizon
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Bro just take em to R5A2 PE

turbid horizon
ocean spindle
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ok maybs i exaggerated

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but u get the point

turbid horizon
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I have not looked back at R1 since I completed it

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Literally only to coach new players

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If they complain about being bored, throw em into R5A2

ocean spindle
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if one person gets stuck on r1 then goes to r2 and r3 does the a tier for example then comes back to r1c1 they arent gonna be like

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ah this levels so boring i never seen anythin worse

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no they gonna complete it then be amazed at r1c2

hearty aspen
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at least R1D1 is nice to do

ocean spindle
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cause c2 is new enemies even

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and yeah d1 too

turbid horizon
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amazed is one word

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Idk if any of r1 is amazing

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It was the first rundown, I don’t fault it for being less interesting

ocean spindle
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cmon c2 is chargers! yes the level its not like amazin not r1 really

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but its new things for em

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its a change of pace

hearty aspen
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remember that R1A1 still hold record of one of the most failed map in GTFO

ocean spindle
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yeah that
seems right

turbid horizon
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It’s interesting but it isn’t like super good

hearty aspen
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the old day when nobody know wtf to do

turbid horizon
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It’s kinda just “oh hey chargers”

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Cool

ocean spindle
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did u

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went like that when u

turbid horizon
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I’d rather show em off in like

ocean spindle
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first encounter em?

turbid horizon
#

R5B1

turbid horizon
ocean spindle
#

i was like losin it when i first encountered chargers even when i already knew em by heart now imagine a player that doesnt know anythin about em

turbid horizon
#

And yeah I thought it was so fucking cool, but that was all we had

#

I’d rather introduce people in a rundown that I think does things in a super interesting beginner friendly way

hearty aspen
#

and then they meet hybird

#

and was like "hey,wth is this guy"

turbid horizon
#

Honestly R6 has the best hook potential out of any rundown imo

hearty aspen
#

happened to me once back then i have 2 newb in team

turbid horizon
#

Not too hard, really cool stuff right off the bat in A1, and just fun to play

hearty aspen
#

hybird scared the scrap outof them lol

ocean spindle
#

i dont- i dont know we dont know if its gonna be as easy but even if it is i still think r1 is just simpler, r6 has the c1 stop point too for players

hearty aspen
#

understandable,hybirb look spooky

ocean spindle
#

so its just

#

awkward idk

#

both rundowns have that

turbid horizon
#

Uhhh

#

R6C1 isn’t like a super hard stop point

#

I honestly think out of all the C1’s, it’s on the easier side

#

Like both R5 and R7 have notoriously deadly C1’s

ocean spindle
#

w whut
really? with its 5 scouts and teleport and an ERROR alarm????
compared to c1????

#

r1c1??

turbid horizon
#

yeah that’s R1

#

R1 doesn’t really count

ocean spindle
#

?????????????????

turbid horizon
#

Again, R1C1 is easier but more boring

hearty aspen
#

although i cleared both R4C3 PE, old and alt,it still one of the most bs C tier PE out all 7rundown i ever do

sturdy glen
#

r6c1 is less hard and more "do you have X skill developed at this point"

ocean spindle
#

yes it is borin but at least it teaches u reactors and hybrids, the problems isnt that is borin is that people get stuck
that was the whole like theme of the convo

turbid horizon
#

Yeah I think plenty of people get stuck on R1C1

ocean spindle
#

idk

sturdy glen
#

yeah it is

turbid horizon
#

I saw SO many people getting screwed on that level when Alt R1 dropped

hearty aspen
#

what was in R1C1 again

turbid horizon
#

Probably the most out of any ALT R1 level ngl

ocean spindle
#

yeah so the solution we came up is they go and play r2 r3 levels, a and b tiers maybe

#

and then go back to it

vague bridge
#

r1c1 is the super easy reactor

turbid horizon
#

It’s an 8 code reactor

ocean spindle
#

and they wont be bored of it

hearty aspen
#

ah

sturdy glen
#

shooting sim

hearty aspen
#

the first wave defense

#

yeah,that one you literally just run around grabbing stuff and hold on the bridge

ocean spindle
#

the point of this convo has kinda gone of the rails

turbid horizon
#

Yeah idk I just think R6C1 hooks you in but also is way better at teaching

vague bridge
#

i really cannot imagine struggling on that level

turbid horizon
#

Might be harder, but not by much

#

Teaches you multiscout rooms, Hybrids, errors, terminal commands, error key hunts, actual stealth zones.

ocean spindle
#

i mean u gotta do r1c1 at some point cause it teaches u reactors and stuff so even if like newies just start by r6, are they just not doin r1 anymore

#

do they abandon it

turbid horizon
#

Also R6 does have a great intro to reactors

#

Waaaay better than R7

ocean spindle
#

yeah r7 is e1 but idk r6s one

#

if its like d tier then

turbid horizon
#

R6D1

ocean spindle
#

ah right

#

i forgot

#

nevermind

turbid horizon
#

It’s one of the “optional objectives “ (but not really)

ocean spindle
#

it is an acceptable d tier but thats so far below

hearty aspen
#

currently we have r1c1 r2d2 r3a3 r4d1-e1/EX ,r6c3 OV is wave defense iirc

turbid horizon
#

It’s honestly more like C tier

#

Do you mean reactor’s in general?

hearty aspen
#

dont talk about R7E1 reactor

turbid horizon
#

R6C3 does not have a reactor

tardy ingot
turbid horizon
#

Thinking of D3

#

Yeah R6 is kinda chill

#

R2E1 is probably harder than R6, but I think that’s it

#

It’s like the nice middle ground

ocean spindle
#

i was just talkin of the reactor of when is it good to complete r1c1 but i guess thats not the point anymore so yeah r6 is cool and i wanna play it

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

fuck scattergun

#

i love it

#

but fuck it

turbid horizon
#

Also R5 has like 4 reactors iirc

#

Maybe one was shutdown

hearty aspen
turbid horizon
#

Counterpoint - sniper, 2 hammers, cfoam,

hearty aspen
#

not sure if burst still can after the damage nerf tho

turbid horizon
#

it can

#

Even from front

#

Cscout has 60 hp

#

BC does 95 dmg

#

Yeah I hope R6 gets a bit harder, but it’s overall level design is just super nice

tardy ingot
#

it basically just means that it needs 1 more bullet to hit from the front

turbid horizon
#

Burst cannon users when they have to hit more than 1 bullet

sacred dew
tardy ingot
#

it is

spark wolf
#

easier A & B

#

harder C & D

turbid horizon
#

Story levels excluded, although I do think R6D1 could absolutely have some chargers in the first wing and/or some shadows in the second wing

tardy ingot
#

also r6 having more C and D tiers helps in this case

turbid horizon
#

yeah

#

D1 being easier was ok when there were 3 other harder D levels waiting

#

Also R6 D tier was fairly varied

languid dome
#

As a new player should I play through all the Rundowns or start at the newest?

dry pumice
#

R7 is the most "modern" one and got a lot of features which are not present in ALT remixes. If you play starting with it - you'll notice a sudden drop of diversity in old rundowns.

#

They'll feel bland in comparison.

minor fractal
dry pumice
#

I'm still grumpy that they decided to not use new enemies in ALTs.

icy cave
soft crater
#

looks at R1C1

minor fractal
#

R3D1

icy cave
winged turtle
soft crater
#

I've been slacking in my completions

icy cave
soft crater
#

But it's good idc much for spoilers

dry pumice
cold quarry
past mesa
#

I wish r1a1 had just the first zone reloaded

ocean spindle
#

whut

#

whatcha mean

past mesa
#

I what there to be a better spot for the class two so you have space to do things

#

Then I could recommend starting on r1a1 no hassle the right alarms feel tricky in comparison to r7a1 alarms

#

Especially since you need to think about doors you want to use later in the level and save them

ocean spindle
#

i mean thats not really as tricky as the fact that its a IV

#

but i get ur point

past mesa
#

It doesn’t matter for us

#

But new players that shit isn’t an amazing scan room

#

R7a1 gives you all the space in the world and in the future you can add the other stuff

sacred dew
midnight gazelle
#

auto sentry is my baby

winged turtle
#

i also would compare it to a toddler

soft crater
#

The thing about that

#

The prisoners are bad fathers

#

Always forgetting about the goddamn newborn baby

#

And now that I think about it.

#

A Neonate HSU fucking scares me

#

Considering what it does

winged turtle
low willow
#

It's what we do to it that you should be scared of.

#

On its own, a neonate HSU isn't really anything all that special. Stasis isn't something that only adults can go through, after all

winged turtle
#

we help them grow up big and strong!

noble sierra
#

Nope, we strip it, stab it, and crush it.

#

Also dehydrate

bold atlas
#

Alt R5 when >:D

upper ginkgo
#

June 1st

bold atlas
tepid sand
#

June first 😭

bold atlas
#

;-;

hidden ridge
#

OG R1D1 didnt have hybrids, right? When were hybrids introduced?

tardy ingot
#

r2

#

b1 specifically

dry pumice
#

Are there any specific triggers for "the door wont hold much longer!" type of dialogue, or is it just randomly triggers when door is being punched?

turbid horizon
#

Seems like woods always yells the 5 sec line when there’s ab 5 seconds left but that could just be me

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

oh lol

civic wave
#

Also when you hit the door yourself

#

"we've got 5 seconds until this door gives", he says, as he breaks down the door in 2 seconds

soft crater
#

Put mine down. Shoot mine

dry pumice
#

Right, so it's just triggered by door loosing HP for any reason at all

soft crater
#

Insta open door

#

Tada~

dull wave
#

some friends and i are doing R1 C2 and been having some problems with chargers, 2 of us use bat and knife, any advice for those weapons when it comes to stealth vs chargers?

solemn flint
#

u have said the problem by urself

dull wave
#

well yeah, they wont switch off

solemn flint
#

switch off?

dull wave
#

like go hammer or spear

solemn flint
#

do u know that hammer and bat dont have the damage to 1 shot chargers?

#

i guess not

dull wave
#

nope

#

still a bit new

turbid horizon
#

Hammer does

solemn flint
#

bat 2 shot chargers

turbid horizon
#

Hammer absolutely does

solemn flint
#

but yea, hammer does the job

turbid horizon
#

Knife and bat are honestly fine

solemn flint
#

hammer is the only thing you need because it is the most do everything in 1 weapon

turbid horizon
#

Just go running after it and hit them with another full charge to back

dull wave
#

got it

turbid horizon
dull wave
#

we doubled up for the section where we had pairs of 2 for each charger to take them out

turbid horizon
#

Yeah, in case you didn’t know, bat has super high stagger

#

It’s really good for taking out bigs

solemn flint
#

i hate bat alot

turbid horizon
#

bruh

#

Bat is my most preferred weapon after hammer

solemn flint
#

hammer deal with everything

dull wave
#

i dont mind bat, we like to have one of each

#

personaly i love spears

turbid horizon
#

Honestly the only one you don’t really need is spear

#

Lol

solemn flint
#

u have hammer

turbid horizon
#

Spears got handicaps

dull wave
#

but like scouts tho

solemn flint
#

do everything that spear can do

#

but better

turbid horizon
#

But yeah it’s nice for scouts

solemn flint
#

hammer is better

turbid horizon
solemn flint
#

because u can run charge and punch scout in the face

turbid horizon
#

Spear can reliably solo giants without intensity

dull wave
turbid horizon
#

I just like sprinting around with hammer lol

waxen bane
#

If you're British knife is the only option SantonianWhatElse

dull wave
#

keep out of reach for the mele

solemn flint
solemn flint
turbid horizon
#

My team usually 2 hammer 1 bat 1 bot

solemn flint
#

i thought knife is for asian

turbid horizon
#

do you not know britain

solemn flint
#

tha mom with tha knife will always give me a nightmare

#

when u got bad grade

#

oh no

turbid horizon
#

Anyways yeah

dull wave
#

2 strikes to the back and we good

#

ty

turbid horizon
#

Spear is generally worse but it’s not gonna kill u to use it

waxen bane
solemn flint
turbid horizon
# dull wave ty

I recommend getting familiar with hammer at some point, I used to main spear but I tried hammer and got hooked

solemn flint
dull wave
solemn flint
#

the mobility of hammer really make a diffrent

dull wave
#

indeed

turbid horizon
#

Yeah, I’m saying to get used to hammering scouts

solemn flint
#

gtfo is a run game

#

not a sleath game

turbid horizon
#

No it is both

#

Every level in this game has some element of stealth except for 2

latent obsidian
#

which 2?

#

I can't think of any offhand with no stealth at all

turbid horizon
#

uhhh Survive Warden Protocol

solemn flint
#

its more of a run than sleath

#

r7e1 is a mix of both

turbid horizon
#

While technically R6C3 has some sleeping enemies I don’t really count that

#

You can’t usually avoid waking up dad

latent obsidian
#

I could argue with you on both but its whatever

tardy ingot
latent obsidian
#

definitely not much stealth

turbid horizon
#

yeah, ik there’s speed stealth

latent obsidian
#

I'd say on B4 moreso

tardy ingot
#

only one that sucks is first room

#

cuz thats doomed

#

he will wake

turbid horizon
#

I had 3 bots :3

#

Ig with more players u can stealth him

#

But where’s the fun in that

latent obsidian
#

with my old team we'd normally leave him be if we could

turbid horizon
latent obsidian
#

If he was in the 3rd room anyway

turbid horizon
#

I always just walked up to him with the funny gun

fading jungle
#

Quick question, how do you unlock alt r2e1?

low willow
#

clear the rest of r2

vague bridge
#

it should have an "unlocked by:" text below it if you cant access it

spark wolf
#

it only does that if its unlocked by a specific expedition

craggy pier
#

@shadow flower when is long gun being added?!?!?!?

hearty aspen
#

so,what happened to the mapper cult?

dry pumice
#

Dead.

solemn flint
solemn flint
icy cave
solemn flint
icy cave
solemn flint
#

i thought it was just d2 only

icy cave
solemn flint
#

apperantly i havent play this game enough

sacred dew
solemn flint
#

i dont realise that bc i join others alot

#

i hardly ever host a lobby

sacred dew
#

understandable

icy cave
sacred dew
#

ask for a rundown reset

solemn flint
#

it would take a long long long long long long long time until i clear all of that

sacred dew
#

then you'll know

icy cave
#

so off you go

sacred dew
ocean spindle
#

just beat the levels aint that hard :3

solemn flint
past mesa
#

It is nice for the other players in your lobby that you clear all the levels up to that point

solemn flint
#

thats why i get hard stuck alot

sacred dew
#

R4 is too damn long

past mesa
#

Having players who haven’t played through b teir join d teir lobbies

#

Is insane to me tbh

icy cave
solemn flint
icy cave
solemn flint
#

i start easy, take my time and still 50 50 on scout killing

#

i cant get my scout killing rate pass 50%

sacred dew
icy cave
#

Meaby 5 years ago I could do something like that but now ????

sacred dew
icy cave
solemn flint
sacred dew
solemn flint
#

i would rather bat a scout to death than knife it

#

i hate knife hit box

sacred dew
#

go to the back -> jump -> knife -> done

solemn flint
#

i know, but the bat hit box isnt weird

sacred dew
solemn flint
#

knife its just too weird, after a ton of knife useing in a and b tier

hearty aspen
#

knife is nice,if only it doesnt suck arse on big boys

solemn flint
#

i still cant get use to how to distance with knife

hearty aspen
#

and charger too if you cant get their back

solemn flint
#

i have just realise that im bad at keeping distance

#

thats why i got punch to death by giant

sacred dew
arctic marten
#

"hey team, can you get this one for me"

#

"no i have knife"

solemn flint
#

welp, when u cant melee, u cant say no to guns

sacred dew
#

then again, I might have played too many gun levels

icy cave
arctic marten
#

you don't have to "strictly melee" anywhere that you have ammo, its just far more convenient to be able to clear some rooms in stealth, and knife doesn't help with that any more than hammer or bat, usually far less

icy cave
#

unless you were CRACKED

civic wave
icy cave
sacred dew
solemn flint
#

1 question

sacred dew
icy cave
solemn flint
#

how does turn off anti aliasing make the game so smooth

sacred dew
solemn flint
#

it improve my fps by 10, which is alot

icy cave
past mesa
#

There is two forced stealth rooms

#

R4e1 r7e1

sacred dew
verbal zinc
#

Sending positive vibes out for everyone

arctic marten
#

Sending negative vibes out for everyone

civic wave
#

doesn't AA make lines smoother, so the higher resolution train of thought is wonky

sacred dew
civic wave
#

huh, interesting

sacred dew
#

It would smooth out the lines, which the purpose of all AAs

civic wave
#

if I don't ever look at anti aliasing, I can't tell if it looks any better, so I won't miss it

sacred dew
#

I dont think it matters a lot in GTFO since the it's quite a fast-paced game

civic wave
#

yea as long as you have decent texture quality the game should be fine, still not sure why you can't turn SSAO off anymore though

sacred dew
#

not the same thing but I think SSAO affects the atmosphere of the game more so turning it off is a big turn off for the devs

#

I do just turn down everything except for shadow quality so that I can have the highest fps and lowest latency though

#

having low fps + high queued frames would result in a very jello experience due to high latency. Worse than playing on console

gritty dust
#

if I use a knife on the back of a sleeping sleeper do I kill it?

topaz anvil
#

perhaps. idk anything about knife but back of the head will definitely kill

gritty dust
#

anyone who knows for sure?

sturdy glen
#

back yeah but it has to be asleep

#

if you bump into it it wont work

haughty niche
#

Hello ! I'm new on the game and trying to play for the first time with a friend, however, neither of us can log with the given ID ? Do you have any tips?

topaz anvil
haughty niche
#

i'm looking into it

sacred dew
gritty dust
#

not back of the head

sacred dew
#

Ok my bad, read it again and the answer is still yes

gritty dust
#

thanks!

haughty niche
#

We've done what was said but it still doesn't work, we can only join our own party when we leave it after copying the ID

sacred dew
#

Knife has a bonus 2x damage on sleeping ones so just make sure they are still sleeping

topaz anvil
#

Go to vc-50

sacred dew
# gritty dust thanks!

Forgot to mention that it only works on strikers, won’t work on shooters and chargers

gritty dust
#

I love you guys! Just finished R1C1

past mesa
#

All you

#

We did basically nothing

#

Gl for the rest of the game r1c1 is the first big wall

craggy pier
#

Is it a wall?

#

Like once u know to fetch between waves its literally just aim trainer

ocean spindle
#

despite what it may seem, new players struggle with easier levels cause they new :D
ok no but fr

#

c1 gets intense after like wave 4

#

with the hybrids

#

thats were most people lose it

past mesa
craggy pier
#

Click on enemy has nothing to do with not knowing the game.

past mesa
#

We have a copy paste for telling them how to beat it

craggy pier
#

Huge

ocean spindle
#

no it was a joke but its not only aiming its more of bein overhwlemed equipment resources and all that

#

havin the strat

craggy pier
#

Hence fetching resources :3

past mesa
#

It is my least favourite mission and I think I have played it 10 times now

craggy pier
#

U cant win with just the stuff where u hold

past mesa
craggy pier
#

Ok just take 4 4 ammos

past mesa
#

You can carry a 5 use ammo in and there is enough to solo hold with hel gun

dry pumice
#

to be fair most people who come here seem to be playing with bots, and bots are worthless when it comes to fetching

craggy pier
ocean spindle
#

theres a lot of things

#

to lose

#

in this level

dry pumice
#

also hybrids are no joke

past mesa
craggy pier
#

Im not ragging on you btw, grats for beating it

dry pumice
#

And people have to learn to prioritise over literally any other enemy

craggy pier
#

Pr+bullpup the god combo

dry pumice
#

unironically too

#

This is the best level for it, probably

craggy pier
#

Yeah lol, if u can aim

past mesa
#

I am internally screaming

dry pumice
#

Just snipe to your heart's content, sentries can handle the CQC

craggy pier
dry pumice
#

one of the reasons i love that level - i can just chill with my favorite guns and pop some heads

past mesa
#

The new gtfo talk about cqc is making me frustrated

#

tbh

sturdy glen
#

just take revo

#

it does the same thing

craggy pier
#

I dont understand, I’ve been gone a while what happened?

past mesa
#

Idk if a weapon does bad in cqc in the game

ocean spindle
#

whats cqc

gritty dust
#

close quarter?

#

idk

past mesa
#

Close quarter combat

upper ginkgo
past mesa
#

Stop 250 messages

#

I can’t

ocean spindle
#

??

#

cause it shoots like slightly slow

sturdy glen
#

dmrs still fine

ocean spindle
#

and u need headshots

past mesa
#

But that isn’t a cqc issue

ocean spindle
#

ah thats true

sturdy glen
#

if you dont hit head its still a stagger

ocean spindle
#

thats an overwhelm issue

past mesa
#

That is a crowd control thing

ocean spindle
#

yeah

#

im sorry

craggy pier
#

Aim issue

#

Get good

gritty dust
#

I love my hel revolver Hackett_Heart

ocean spindle
#

qwq

craggy pier
#

Play fps games for 10 years

past mesa
craggy pier
#

Real and true

past mesa
#

just it is so common

upper ginkgo
ocean spindle
#

qwq

past mesa
hidden ridge
#

I think newbies get stuck at R1C1 because it's their first reactor level and they've no idea how it works, that and everyone's afraid of defending in a place that ain't the reactor room itself, probably because they've no idea the waves cant spawn behind them

gritty dust
#

meta my beloved

dry pumice
#

boooooooooo

gritty dust
#

oh shesh, no gifs

upper ginkgo
#

omg he's literally me frfr !

craggy pier
#

I run machine pistol choke

gritty dust
#

ahahahah

past mesa
upper ginkgo
#

how many r7e1s have you failed from mistyped codes 💀

past mesa
#

Also cleaning clearing waves isn’t everyone’s best part

#

Stacking waves is a thing

past mesa
#

Because someone either doesn’t want to type in code or doesn’t know how

craggy pier
past mesa
upper ginkgo
craggy pier
#

How do i find key

dry pumice
#

Dropping in R1-C1 right now, lets have some fun!

hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

No mic lobby too, lets see how that goes

hidden ridge
#

I agree with you that it ain't rocket science

past mesa
upper ginkgo
craggy pier
#

Can someone carry me through all of r4 i havent cleared any of the levels Ancestral_Trolling Ancestral_Trolling

hearty aspen
past mesa
ocean spindle
past mesa
#

I don’t want to play a solo bots games with real humans

ocean spindle
#

general themes

#

and topics

#

and all that

ocean spindle
tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
sturdy glen
#

which is worse, ppl who ask or ppl who do it horribly and waste a ton of tool but never mention they dont know how to do it

past mesa
#

Yup 100%

#

Best gtfo advice I can give

#

Use your fucking tool

hearty aspen
sturdy glen
#

cuz I know ppl with like

#

700 hours who dont know how to use anything but sentry

hidden ridge
hearty aspen
#

worse more they have ADHD so they didnt listen to a single shet i said lol

sturdy glen
#

guh

past mesa
hearty aspen
#

literally have to tell one guy to stay dead at central terminal when i run to the verify one

spark wolf
#

why are you telling them

past mesa
#

I still haven’t been able to decide

spark wolf
#

just stand on the team scan

hidden ridge
upper ginkgo
past mesa
winged turtle
hidden ridge
#

You can learn details but learning not to miss shots is harder

upper ginkgo
#

yeah knowledge definitely has diminishing returns once you learn enough about the game

hearty aspen
#

one thing i hate is teammate doesnt know what to do,so you try to explain but they dont give a shet

hidden ridge
#

It also depends on the map and on the team

sturdy glen
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most problems in this game can be solved by just

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shooting better

hearty aspen
past mesa
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You don’t need it

hidden ridge
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Get 3 cracked people that never miss a shot and 1 guy that knows what to do and their winrate would probably be gigantic compared to 4 very good fps players but noone has any clue what to do and how to do it

sturdy glen
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true

hearty aspen
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honestly people still afraid of doing uplink even though they said they cleared at least 4rundown is kinda eh for me

past mesa
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I loved that point it is when the grind really started

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Just be good

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Class L had that vibe to

turbid horizon
hidden ridge
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In your defense that shit exists in 3 expeditions out of however much we have

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I legit did practice with them only in R6D2

turbid horizon
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Oh right it’s like 1 in R5, R6D2, and the level I don’t talk about

past mesa
next socket
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Why does Woods say "Conserve your ammo" even though it's a life or death situation? Is he stupid?

robust lintel
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yes

turbid horizon
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no

hidden ridge
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Wait that's Dan Salvato?

turbid horizon
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He’s saying to make sure you don’t waste ammo

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Don’t use a full burst cannon shot on a baby

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Or use a knife lol

next socket
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tbh of all the characters Woods would be most likely to do that

turbid horizon
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He would

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Bishop would knife them

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Dauda’d run away

hidden ridge
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Why you guys dumping on Woods

turbid horizon
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Hackett would probably just shoot it

hidden ridge
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And why one of you looks like Dan Salvato?

turbid horizon
hidden ridge
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Woods is my favourite after Dauda

turbid horizon
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I think woods is hilarious

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turbid horizon
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Mine would be Bishop > Woods > Hackett > Dauda

hidden ridge
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The other 2 I cant even remember which color they are I think Bishop's Blue

next socket
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Bishop is my favorite

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"WE'RE SHAAAAGED"

hidden ridge
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Dauda just looks and sound so confident

next socket
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"🎶bolOOOOCKs🎶"

turbid horizon
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Hacket is blue

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2 t’s

next socket
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Fun fact: when Bishop singsongs "bollocks", it's a perfect fourth interval

lost flame
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He knows his way around bollocks

mystic canopy
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For the DMR, am I actually doing less damage by aiming for the head?

low willow
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No weapon does less aiming for the head

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According to the wiki, the lowest weapon precision multiplier is 0.73. The lowest head multiplier is 1.5, which would need a precision multi below 0.6667 to make it deal less damage

mystic canopy
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Ah, I see.

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So DMR is really just not getting the full benefit of the 1.5 multi

low willow
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You're either going to be dealing normal damage if the foe does not have a head weakspot, or you're going to be using both precision and head multis

minor fractal
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The game also has a fail-safe that damage can't go under base damage.

low willow
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Well, the 1.5x is for giants. Most foes have at least 2x on their weakspots

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For example a striker takes 3x headshot damage, DMR has 0.87 precision multi. Overall you'll do 2.61x to a striker's head

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Even with a giant you'll still deal about 1.3x

minor fractal
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Especially when most head crits are quite large multis.

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Like, DMR on strikers still does more than 19 damage (on an enemy with 20 HP).

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The precision nerf is to prevent it from straight one-tapping.

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Conversely, PR has a 1.3 precision multi.

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But as a cost, it has horrible damage output.

mystic canopy
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Thanks for the great answers!

low willow
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I was just clarifying that you're dealing 2.61x total with DMR vs a striker because I assumed their question meant they weren't aware that the multis stacked

minor fractal
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Replying as an addendum.

mystic canopy
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Should I be hoarding boosters?

minor fractal
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Eh.

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Certain combos are very strong...

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But more than anything, you should just get better at the game.

dry pumice
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Interesting thought

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: do you think CLS'ing every single terminal gonna improve game stability?

winged turtle
minor fractal
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It might free some memory, but we're talking something like a few kb.