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#gtfo-related-questions
winged turtle
telling them is not a requirement, but it is respectful
ocean spindle
wasnt it a law to not record nor stream other people w/o their permission
even if it isnt its so awful to do that
winged turtle
hmm in the US if you are publishing their face on network television yes, but the law is not modernized enough to handle the internet in any way, eSP this one
ocean spindle
Note that, while the law refers to “two-party” consent, every participant on camera must give their permission if more than two people are present at the time of the filming. One exception to the two-party consent rule is if you are recording police or other public officials carrying out their job responsibilities. If those activities are visible from publicly accessible places, such as parks or streets, you have the right to record video without their permission.
this is california i found this like on a site idk if it could b true
winged turtle
oh huh, if yhis were federal i would say you need their permission, but state laws have a lot of boundaries
icy nacelle
Ignoring whether it's legal or not in some places, it's just common decency to inform people you're playing with that you're streaming/recording it.
dry pumice
california
ocean spindle
yeah just tell the person
i couldnt touch the LFG channels for a long time im sure theres some that still struggle or just wanna b private dont throw em onto the public eye even if its just 10 viewers on stream
icy cave
>california
People there are too high on fentanyl to stream
dry pumice
It's probably just me, but I see all gamers as same amorphous blob
They are just animals in their natural environment, in a positive sense
icy cave
People there are too high on fentanyl to stream
obligatory /j
dry pumice
They just do what gamers do
winged turtle
welcome to the animal kingdom
icy cave
It's probably just me, but I see all gamers as same amorphous blob
Hmmm I'll have to see about that
ocean spindle
People there are too high on fentanyl to stream
im too high on fentanyl
whats fentanyl?
icy cave
_im too high on fentanyl_
whats fentanyl?
Something that kills you
ocean spindle
a
winged turtle
past star
_im too high on fentanyl_
whats fentanyl?
I’m looking for the Blue M30s
midnight gazelle
yknow, one of the rundowns came out while I was in exam season
and instead of studying for my chem final
I finished all of the rundown
and then failed the exam and got a D in chem
bold atlas
Blame the devs
midnight gazelle
ikr
dry pumice
Chem is cringe
midnight gazelle
them releasing a new rundown during exam season
midnight gazelle
Chem is cringe
im a CS major, why the fuck do I need to take chemistry
or physics? like what the fuck
math i understand
vague bridge
_im too high on fentanyl_
whats fentanyl?
stronger morphine
midnight gazelle
fentanyl is some scary shit
dry pumice
It's not about what it teaches you
It's about testing your ability to learn or and to see if you can utilise those IQ points of yours.
winged turtle
fentanyl teaches me lots of things
vague bridge
100x more potent
bold atlas
Chem is cringe
U take dat back
I prefer chem over bio tbh
But if I want to be a chem major, I gotta do some more annoying shit
dry pumice
I liked biology until we started calculating genome spread.
midnight gazelle
I prefer chem over bio tbh
i prefer bio over chem
bold atlas
i prefer bio over chem
Bio is pure memorization for me rn and tis boring
midnight gazelle
honestly, probably why i like bio more
chem is too much brain power
i like math if there were no exams
bold atlas
Trueeeee
midnight gazelle
its sad because i wanna do bio but
I would have to take a lot more classes if I did bio
I have a choice for my last science
I can take Physics 2 + Lab, or Chem 2 + Lab, or Bio 1 + Lab AND Bio 2 + Lab
so its like, i'd rather just take physics 2 and get it over with
bold atlas
That’s what’s frustrating for me, like why tf do I even need physics
past mesa
Physics is important
bold atlas
Physics is important
No it’s annoying
past mesa
You are annoying
bold atlas
Yes
past star
Physics is important
Ok really good singer. How do you need physics?????
arctic marten
If we didn’t all believe in gravity, my graphics card would float out the window before I can beat r7d1
This is why physics is important
winged turtle
arctic marten
if you dont believe in physics just for a bit, you can do the stuck jump, but you have to start believing again before you float away
tis' a delicate balance
past mesa
Ok really good singer. How do you need physics?????
Sound works in waves the way we listen to sound can be modelled. In fact churches and cathedrals are made to amplify your voice when standing in certain places. Not to mention all theroy of sound is built on ratios of sound waves
Actually tho I am not bullshiting
arctic marten
bs
past star
Sound works in waves the way we listen to sound can be modelled. In fact churche...
Me using harmonic motion and taking the integral of arctan(sqrt(e^x3)) so I can hit the perfect A#
So you know physics? Name every physicist
past mesa
So you know physics? Name every physicist
past star
https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdShortDaikonOMGScoots-jirXMbs8JUoVQUhZ
me frfr
bold atlas
XD
lusty bramble
Me using harmonic motion and taking the integral of arctan(sqrt(e^x3)) so I can ...
Why is there a negative sign in Faradays law
My physics professor won't tell me
sturdy glen
cuz the induced current is meant to generate a field opposing the change in magnetic flux
past star
cry about it
past star
cry about it
take my advice
lusty bramble
Doesn't the induced current cause the change in magnetic Flux to begin with
sturdy glen
no
if theres no change in magnetic flux no current/emf is induced
the law is pretty much just "nature resists change"
but with magnetic fields
lusty bramble
This is very helpful thank you
obtuse moss
Can anybody give some tips for R7C3? The level that starts out with ZERO ammo. Been trying to go for prisoner efficiency lately with a friend. Doing it with 2 boys just doesn’t work because they are too incompetent in hand to hand combat. And even hoping in with others online, we get fucked by spawn RNG before we can even reach the armory.
My friend and I have beaten this level with the secondary before but are struggling to even get to the Overload to see what it is.
minor fractal
Can anybody give some tips for R7C3? The level that starts out with ZERO ammo. B...
In what areas is the RNG fucking you?
Even bad arrangements can be cleared, you just have to manage clearing well.
Also, you can skip bad enemy packs to do them last.
No reason to clear a risky group and potentially fight 8 giants vs. clearing everything else first and only dealing with at most that bad group at the end.
If you're looking to clear more w/out help, there's enough c-foam that you can solo a big part of that level.
Literally up to armory, only once the timer starts do those rooms become harder to clear alone.
past mesa
Don’t do pe blind
cold quarry
Can anybody give some tips for R7C3? The level that starts out with ZERO ammo. B...
I beat this level with 2 friends, I was running a knife and they had sledge / spear. You really have to be good with syncing melee to instakill giants, and it can be wildly easier or harder if the RNG clumps them all up.
cold quarry
Can anybody give some tips for R7C3? The level that starts out with ZERO ammo. B...
Overload, at least when we did it, seems to end the horde once you finish it. I don't wanna spoil it but just be ready to have someone run distraction
past mesa
It doesn’t always
minor fractal
That's finnicky, I wouldn't assume you'll have no waves because it depends on when uplinks complete.
cold quarry
when we ran it, we completed the uplinks a minute or so after the security lockdown finished, fought off a big charger horde and then that was it
||other than the tank||
minor fractal
when we ran it, we completed the uplinks a minute or so after the security lockd...
Yes, it deletes currently active waves.
minor fractal
You can technically just do one uplink after every extraction wave has already started spawning and you'll have 0 enemies afterwards (besides delayed charger error).
And you can get rid of charger error with the second uplink, lmao.
minor fractal
No, when Overload completes
W8, that wouldn't delete them actually, since you have to complete both uplinks.
But still, you can have only charger error if you abuse the uplink issue.
cold quarry
I dunno what happened to us then. we finished the 2nd uplink, killed a big wave of chargers and that was it
cold quarry
must be long, we screwed around for like ~6 minutes with just the Big Boy chasing us
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I see a lot of (good) players using the techman klust burst cannon
What's the deal there? I used it once and hated it. What's it's proper use case?
Inb4 > skill issue
minor fractal
Inb4 > skill issue
Well, that too.
ocean spindle
so the burst cannon almost one shots any giant, it has 100 dmg
minor fractal
You can "brush" to kill multiple enemies in a burst.
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so the burst cannon almost one shots any giant, it has 100 dmg
Oh nice
ocean spindle
it can serve for lil boys since the 5 bullets have a dmg of 20
so u can re use it for that
the ammo is a fuckin ton
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You can "brush" to kill multiple enemies in a burst.
Yeah definitely a skill issue, I can't aim for shit
ocean spindle
and the recoil doesnt almost exist
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LMAO
cold quarry
I see a lot of (good) players using the techman klust burst cannon
kills big boys, or if you're a Serious gamer sweep it across tinies
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I am good at aiming knife
ocean spindle
countin too the fact that the reload is very fast for a gun like ths
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That's it
ocean spindle
good enough
minor fractal
So it's simultaneously a mega-DPS weapon with niche application in quickly wiping out groups of smalls.
cold quarry
big gun go brrt
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the ammo is a fuckin ton
In that the ammo you need to spend to kill something is efficient?
minor fractal
Best boss killer in the game, and very economical into giants.
cold quarry
very
if you stack an absolutely ridiculous amount of main damage boosters I think it can oneshot head on the grunts
ocean spindle
but the drekker, the rifle i think? its a main weapon so u could use both
cold quarry
drekkar is one of those primaries that's just universally good
ocean spindle
In that the ammo you need to spend to kill something is efficient?
u need to kill 2 enemies with a burst to have super high ammo economy
also the revo
is good for smalls and it has nice dmg for bigs
but it does need the headshots on smalls
to oneshot
obtuse moss
Basically the RNG being rough for R7C3 is really the stretch of 10 minutes from the first uplinks to the armory. Hybrids being right in your path or preventing you from moving past the charger scouts. Always somehow having one wake up and screw it all up.
If we play with any bots, the just go down IMMEDIATELY if one giant wakes for even half a second
past mesa
Basically the RNG being rough for R7C3 is really the stretch of 10 minutes from ...
I mean you can clear that section with worst rng and two scout pulls in 3:00 mins
ocean spindle
ok um pls explain
cold quarry
the average player absolutely cannot do that
obtuse moss
How do you not get killed by the tiniest of arm swipes from every giant and the million projectiles from hybrids?
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Basically the RNG being rough for R7C3 is really the stretch of 10 minutes from ...
Give bots the bat
past mesa
If you all hit you kill
next socket
Use hammer to train stagger the giants
past mesa
No chance of getting hit
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And the bats from the bots will also stagger
cold quarry
AI melee doesn't matter I don't think
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It's not perfect but it's what I do with "ok" success
cold quarry
they just do flat damage no matter what they have
obtuse moss
Give bots the bat
Do bots stagger more often with bats than hammers?
ocean spindle
the melee weapon u give the bots doesnt matter i think they act the same with all of em except spear
no
u do
but not the bots
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Do bots stagger more often with bats than hammers?
From my experience, yes
Because bat stagger is separate from damage stagger
ocean spindle
oh well- maybe im wrong tbh its been a while since i tested it
cold quarry
They dont even do that with guns
past mesa
No bots don’t have melee stat blocks
obtuse moss
If you all hit you kill
Of course if doing this with bots that’s not always an option
cold quarry
Of course if doing this with bots that’s not always an option
yeah they're pretty bad at syncing, and by pretty bad I mean "don't even try"
cold quarry
thank you sensei
past mesa
Will not be fun
obtuse moss
So obviously playing with humans is preferred but constant failure and learning of RNG fatigues people easy
next socket
Or don’t do pe with bots
It's doable
past mesa
It is
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Some people don't want to or can't play with others
past mesa
Then hate to say pe bots ain’t it
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I'd argue telling them to queue up with humans is obvious at best, and unhelpful gatekeeping at worst
obtuse moss
Usually we play just 2 of us with Bishop and Hacket. But we struggle to find anyone who even wants to join a lobby for this level haha
minor fractal
So obviously playing with humans is preferred but constant failure and learning ...
If you have some c-foam ahead of time and you
duo kill when you can
cold quarry
I'd argue telling them to queue up with humans is obvious at best, and unhelpful...
GTFO veteran moment
minor fractal
you can beat the 10 minute timer fairly consistently.
ocean spindle
um what i did- i only did the level couple times i have no rights to like give advice
normally if u hit occiput and ur duo player hits after to stagger, the bots can help to like hit again and kill, the problem yes its the hybrids but it mght be worth to guard all the cfoam until u r at that part, and bring as much as u can to use it with those ones
and with the charger scouts, its very tiny rooms so, u can maybe sneak around cause u dont really have to kill em either
past mesa
I'd argue telling them to queue up with humans is obvious at best, and unhelpful...
Na man it is a 4 player game
next socket
I think they know they can find other ppl to play with
minor fractal
If anything, you might just need to take your time w/ it more.
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It's not like they're gonna be like "gee! Why didn't I think of that!"
past mesa
You can beat it without bots they will literally hold you back at times
This is one of those times
cold quarry
It's not like they're gonna be like "gee! Why didn't I think of that!"
☝️ 🤓 um achkshually...have you tried inviting someone to play
ocean spindle
tell me about bots them with chargers just hurts but sometimes people dont want other people, and its understandable its their decision
minor fractal
Spend c-foam clearing enemies in mediocre spots to progress, then either find c-foam in rooms you clear or backtrack to bring more up forward with you.
obtuse moss
I mean we have beaten 95% of the game with bots. We know their limitations. I was just more curious about people’s level strategies or gear. Advice on quiet or loud
And if people have had luck doing it with just bots or not
next socket
tell me about bots them with chargers just hurts but sometimes people dont want ...
I was able to solo r3D1 but not R3C1 because of the bots /w chargers just go full dummy mode
cold quarry
I mean we have beaten 95% of the game with bots. We know their limitations. I wa...
as insane as it sounds, if one of you is good with a knife, it can be a major asset on reckless
as long as a few other dudes have sledge
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as insane as it sounds, if one of you is good with a knife, it can be a major as...
+1
obtuse moss
as insane as it sounds, if one of you is good with a knife, it can be a major as...
How so?
cold quarry
the poop doors, the ending segment, clearing overload
ocean spindle
i would, not go loud, in that level as much as possible, since the bots are very hard to like workaround with giants, i would say u use as much foam and dont be afraid to like foam a scout just to like get around it, cause u just need to go and comeback and u can just evade killin some enemies
cold quarry
I was knife guy when me and my friends beat it. made a huge difference on the poop doors mainly, saving lot of HP
past mesa
as insane as it sounds, if one of you is good with a knife, it can be a major as...
They have two players
cold quarry
and speeding through overload saving bullets
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If I'm playing with other humans who are comfortable with taking down giants/scouts, I will always go knife. No exceptions tbh
past mesa
Don’t take knife
minor fractal
And if people have had luck doing it with just bots or not
I have had luck doing it true solo
ocean spindle
tbh no with duos i think its better two hammers
obtuse moss
i would, not go loud, in that level as much as possible, since the bots are very...
I thought foaming a scout made it alert when waking up
cold quarry
If I'm playing with other humans who are comfortable with taking down giants/sco...
me too. Used be a bat chad but the knife is very nice
next socket
and speeding through overload saving bullets
Make sure you know how to kite melees and dodge ranged attacks
minor fractal
I thought foaming a scout made it alert when waking up
No, has to take damage.
next socket
And knife is OP
ocean spindle
I thought foaming a scout made it alert when waking up
oh nonono
if u foam a scout, and it unfoams, itll keep walkin, but if u like hit it then itll wake up
obtuse moss
Ahhhh good to know
cold quarry
with duo's yeah two hammers probably better. Either that or if you're desperate for a bit more speed, spear/sledge + bat is good. Stunlock a giant to death in like 3 hits
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oh nonono
if u foam a scout, and it unfoams, itll keep walkin, but if u like hit...
This behavior is shared across every enemy type
Even mini bosses
minor fractal
It is frfr just about absuing c-foam
and using hammer effectively.
I can't see the RNG that you're saying is "bad," but chances are there might be things you could be doing better.
ocean spindle
yeah like if u need to use a foam mine for a hybrid right in the door, go for it
next socket
with duo's yeah two hammers probably better. Either that or if you're desperate ...
With a spear you can safely stun lock a giant by aiming head -> limbs
minor fractal
Like if you're rushing to get through, or you're not seeing opportunities to make progress that are there.
cold quarry
With a spear you can safely stun lock a giant by aiming head -> limbs
ooo..
obtuse moss
Even mini bosses
So you can cfoam a sleeping mom and walk past her. But if she is already a wake OR you hit her, she will be angry
ocean spindle
aham
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So you can cfoam a sleeping mom and walk past her. But if she is already a wake ...
Yes, and this applies to moms irl, too
cold quarry
true
ocean spindle
wait wha
obtuse moss
Lol
minor fractal
PDW and Bio can both be nice for the dark, as well, because you get gather information to make decisions about individual rooms earlier.
Like, you can check if there are no enemies or isolated enemies past other enemies that you might be able to reach.
Vs. if trying to get past the first few enemies is going to trap you.
Hard to give more specific advice, though.
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PDW and Bio can both be nice for the dark, as well, because you get gather infor...
Don't need a biotracker if you fail a run enough times that you memorize the statistical spread of enemy spawn points
taps forehead
past mesa
Honestly man if you are having a hard time this level isn’t one to do pe with bots until you got more knwoledge
Do main a few times
Get it under your belt
Don’t waste your time on this one
minor fractal
Practice the Main areas w/out bots, those rooms are really just practice for the rooms from the 10 minute area.
past mesa
Or join lfgs
past mesa
Practice the Main areas w/out bots, those rooms are really just practice for the...
If you don’t clear the rooms up to the blood door in 10 mins
You are screwed
tardy ingot
Because bat stagger is separate from damage stagger
no… it just has a perma 5x stagger multi on its hits
silk echo
As a beginner to the game, should i start at rundown 7 or 1?
neon gust
1
tropic vine
It introduces more mechanics. But yes
silk echo
i see
icy cave
are the later rundowns more complex/harder?
depends
R4 and R5 are harder than the ones before but then R6 and R7 are easier than R4 and R5
hazy fable
R1D1 I could beat solo with bots (took a while), and I can't even solo R7C1
icy cave
R1D1 I could beat solo with bots (took a while), and I can't even solo R7C1
Well I mean Compared to R1 everything is hard 😅
hazy fable
lmao true enough :D
still lake
hi guys =(((( im noob but how to kill enemies in silence ?
hazy fable
still learning that myself ¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor fractal
hi guys =(((( im noob but how to kill enemies in silence ?
Melee weapon, don't move if glow.
icy cave
Raise hammer. lower hammer on head
hazy fable
bonk
cold quarry
when thingy go glurble, no walky.
minor fractal
im use spear
Spear is a melee weapon.
minor fractal
It is actually a little weird
Like, it is a very noob friendly melee, but nobody just getting into the game actually knows anything about weapon stats or anything.
tardy ingot
„Long range makes me safe“
Also both it and hammer having „high damage“ as their info
game doesnt tell you that you cant sprint with it, doesnt tell you its dmg is actually worse, doesnt tell you it lacks stagger
or they go in the opposite direction and dont understand the concept of range (shooting over 30 meters with shotguns, pdw etc)
its quite similar to league, where a new player usually is either waaaay to safe and scared or hyper aggro and dies a lot immediatly
soft crater
beginner sees experienced player walk up to sleepers and kill them left and right without understanding a single thing how they just did it and prevented wake ups
Then see them attempt to mimic it
hidden ridge
*beginner sees experienced player walk up to sleepers and kill them left and rig...
This was particularly obvious with bunny hopping, where newbies would watch vets do it and think that they'd be 100% silent if they just kept jumping
But I just think the reasoning to be spear=range=safer
soft crater
This was particularly obvious with bunny hopping, where newbies would watch vets...
At this point it's stand walking everywhere
I tell em to crouch walk first because stand walking needs a little practice first.
(Doesn't help I've created a habit to sprint jump just outside of enemy detection ranges.)
vague bridge
depending on the room, it may also be cool to run through and jab every monster in sight
lusty bramble
You should try out the sledgehammer coz
glad pike
stop being british and join the bonk side
vague bridge
preference
soft crater
Use a Hammer like the founding fathers intended
hybrid laurel
Do we know if Alt4 will come with the extension by default or if we will have to wait for that?
civic wave
it'll come with extension
- it makes sense
- dev leak was a screenshot of an extension mission
hybrid laurel
ah fair
craggy pier
so as someone that started on r6, how is r4 ?
latent obsidian
R4 is hard
It was back in the day, anyway
R4 and R5 are considered the two hardest
craggy pier
i'm scared now
minor fractal
R4 is mostly comparable to R7, but it doesn't fall off on the D or E-tiers.
R5 kinda cracked.
turbid horizon
R5 did the shuggy wuggy and was pretty damn hard
latent obsidian
the hardest C tier
sage belfry
R5 did the shuggy wuggy and was pretty damn hard
R5 also took a lot of time
And i never forgive R5C1
robust field
i'll never forgive r5d1
hardy grotto
it was just tedious
icy cave
so as someone that started on r6, how is r4 ?
second hardest behind R5
dry pumice
The Bullpup challenge will continue
mossy aurora
I can't wait for coz r4e1 solo reactor hold with knife only
hardy grotto
🙏
upper ginkgo
how am I suppose to get r3d1 lobbies once r4 is out
minor fractal
I didn't even have enough time to get 100 clears.
tardy ingot
i dont think im gonna be able to get 200 tho
what are you at rn?
hardy grotto
man
tardy ingot
you have 43 hours left 
hidden ridge
R4 is mostly comparable to R7, but it doesn't fall off on the D or E-tiers.
R...
What I find hard when comparing the two is the amount of sectors R4 had
and well, it had 3 As
R7's only B tier overload is B3's
tranquil iron
i havent played since the rerelease of rundown 1. are all these rereleases still doing no checkpoint versions of the old levels?
hidden ridge
i havent played since the rerelease of rundown 1. are all these rereleases still...
There weren't any checkpoints in Original R1-2-3-4-5 to begin with
civic wave
yeah, R1-R5 (will) have no checkpoints
hidden ridge
None were added as of now (Alt R3)
civic wave
if they add checkpoints to r4/5 I am throwing hands with god
hidden ridge
if they add checkpoints to r4/5 I am throwing hands with god
Not going to lie I'll never get that complaint
Just mention you aren't going to use them before entering a pug or whatever
You die, that's it, restart from scratch
It remembers me of all the people in ingame-mm abusing door glitch and saying that it's to "raise awareness so the devs fix it"
Just don't glitch doors?
Only argument I can see is that someone could say that some maps are DESIGNED from the start to be played with a checkpoint, but that ain't the case of R4-5
icy cave
i havent played since the rerelease of rundown 1. are all these rereleases still...
Thank god they don't add checkpoints.
tranquil iron
Thank god they don't add checkpoints.
so they still dont have them? i feel intimidated. lol
ocean spindle
it's fine most lvls aren't as long as the checkpoint levels
there's some that can take a bit if u take it slowly but almost all of em are under an hour
latent obsidian
it's fine most lvls aren't as long as the checkpoint levels
there's some that ca...
R4C2PE has entered the chat
ocean spindle
ah idk r4 :]
dry pumice
As long as level is not 40m long it's fine, but it appears were leaving that
neon gust
Earlier than the 28
latent obsidian
Its pretty long
bold atlas
Its pretty long
Compared to like R2E1, longer? Or shorter?
upper ginkgo
longer
bold atlas
:0
minor fractal
Depends a bit on your pace, but it's a big level with a lot going on
upper ginkgo
there's a lot of different routes you can take to achieve the same objective
ocean spindle
it fineee
u can leave gtfo runnin 7 hours in the background :3
bold atlas
Depends a bit on your pace, but it's a big level ~~with a lot going on~~
Chaos is what makes it fun
upper ginkgo
probably the most "replayable" level
arctic marten
probably the most "replayable" level
arent you forgetting something
upper ginkgo
no
bold atlas
Like r7d2 replayable?
past mesa
No
fierce nebula
R7D2 is boring and mid
past mesa
You aren’t holding on bridge
minor fractal
WRONG
arctic marten
R7D2 is boring and mid
kinda like you
upper ginkgo
you're just traveling along a straight line and shooting, mid level design
past mesa
you're just traveling along a straight line and shooting, mid level design
How many clears
mossy aurora
He hasn't played the buffed R7D2 that got balanced for burst cannon 😔
past mesa
Tell me the number
upper ginkgo
12 * 32
bold atlas
Idk
past mesa
Fucking lier
bold atlas
R2D2?
minor fractal
Naw, R2D2 where it at.
bold atlas
XDDD
minor fractal
R2D1 very cool.
bold atlas
I don’t
arctic marten
very true
silver fable
r2d1 is ass
bold atlas
I dun like the level
bold atlas
Bruh
arctic marten
r2d1 is ass
thats it. No more r4. You all have to wait until Cyberheist comes out to hear anything from 10ccp
past mesa
If you fog dive one by one it is lame as anything
silver fable
thats it. No more r4. You all have to wait until Cyberheist comes out to hear an...
I'll apologize on june 1st
past mesa
What is a fun level
Cortex star class L I enjoyed, r2e1 r7e1, r7-6 c3 are good unless I get held hostage. R7d2 and r3d1. Honestly most levels that are forced hour levels annoy me
fierce nebula
we live in a society that enjoys R7
minor fractal
thats it. No more r4. You all have to wait until Cyberheist comes out to hear an...
Holy shit, Cyberheist June 1?
This is incredible news.
past mesa
Even though it is impossible
arctic marten
Holy shit, Cyberheist June 1?
you know it
icy cave
so they still dont have them? i feel intimidated. lol
They were never needed. So don't worry you'll be fine 😃
winged turtle
they have their place
little dirge
Checkpoints are a mistake
same as yellow glow sticks (want red and blue)
little dirge
i remember the red ones, not sure about blue though
median pulsar
in r2d2 how do i get the password out of the correct terminal?
tardy ingot
logs
median pulsar
i know i need to do logs but i cant figure it out
tardy ingot
read "log name"
winged turtle
type "logs" to show you every log name on the terminal
one of them will have the word reactor init
little dirge
logs -> read log_name
median pulsar
wait so do i need to enter 2 lines of code? or just one
hidden ridge
READ REACTOR_VERX01.LOG
winged turtle
the you "read reactor_verx01.log"
hidden ridge
Instead of VERX01.log could be verz02.log or whatever
median pulsar
oh ok ty guys for super speedy help
hidden ridge
👍
grizzled widget
What is the easiest primary weapon to get to be able to one shot a scout to the back of the head? (With boosters ofc)
turbid horizon
dmr iirc could be wrong tho
ocean spindle
with boosters maybe hel revo since i think it has the highest dmg of any primary in a single shot
rifle can in three shots i think and it does have more speed so
probs hel revo
no wait
turbid horizon
oh hel shotgun dur
grizzled widget
Cus it's more than just raw damage. It's also precision modifier
turbid horizon
hel shotty can do it without boosters
past mesa
hel shotty
ocean spindle
can it
past mesa
100%
ocean spindle
ah
turbid horizon
it can kill cscouts too
ocean spindle
i would guess its hard as fuck but
past mesa
as fuck
turbid horizon
with no boosters
past mesa
i would guess its hard as fuck but
just tap fire quickly
past mesa
lol
grizzled widget
with no boosters
Without booters!? I'm assuming you need all pellets to hit
past mesa
baby easy then
past mesa
Without booters!? I'm assuming you need all pellets to hit
just fire twice
it is probs free
grizzled widget
just fire twice
Double tap or hold
past mesa
doesnt matter
grizzled widget
It's full auto, right?
ocean spindle
i forget it isnt semi auto
i always use it as a semi
turbid horizon
literally hold down the trigger and dump like 4 rounds into it and it'll probably die
past mesa
thing will be dead
ocean spindle
It's full auto, right?
yes
oh god
i couldve used hel shottie this whole time
to kill scouts
i feel so dumb
turbid horizon
why would you do thatr
winged turtle
bhahah we all learn something new every day
turbid horizon
just bonk them
ocean spindle
i have to coordinate to hit like 1 or 2 seconds
after i did the thing
and its so fkin hard
past mesa
i have to coordinate to hit like 1 or 2 seconds
slendo
i will teach you
the way of the sync bonk
ocean spindle
i mean i have bonked scouts on vanilla at 7 fps the problem is just like
grizzled widget
Okay, but what about a ranged weapon
ocean spindle
calculatin
grizzled widget
Not a shotty
ocean spindle
dmr then probs
grizzled widget
What % booster and what gun
past mesa
Okay, but what about a ranged weapon
dmr or hel rev
just 42/6
doesnt it just need 7 dmg to occiput
late ferry
why does the levels ive completed say "alt"
ocean spindle
why does the levels ive completed say "alt"
soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 4
thats what ALT means
tropic vine
the ALT rundowns are also diffrent, from there "regular" counter part but it is mostly if not exactly the same
grizzled widget
Lore stuffs. Different universes, etc
silk echo
What is artifact heat mean?
tropic vine
every time you pick up an artifact you get a set amount of progress towards your next booster, the higher the heat% the less artifacts you need to pick up to get a booster. it lowers every time you pick up a artifact for that level
silk echo
ah i see
tropic vine
its just to stop the player from grinding boosters
soft crater
same as yellow glow sticks (want red and blue)
I mean that's because of Alt.
Heavy lore change ngl
Red glow sticks did exist around OG R2 iirc
craggy pier
i wanted to buy a sweatshirt from the gtfo shop and there are no sizes above Meduim
grizzled widget
i wanted to buy a sweatshirt from the gtfo shop and there are no sizes above Med...
its only twigs and bricks here. oh, i misread. only twigs.
craggy pier
so they wont made any sizes above that
ocean spindle
i entered like for the haha to see if it was true and
the first one is large
but the xl are sold out
craggy pier
thanks
ocean spindle
its ok
next socket
Gonna try R7C3 /w bots, what melee weapon should I bring?
icy cave
Gonna try R7C3 /w bots, what melee weapon should I bring?
Hammer
next socket
Hammer
Is it... 😳.. Hammer time???
Stupid question, does the hammer charge faster than the spear?
I've used the spear for so long 😩
minor fractal
Stupid question, does the hammer charge faster than the spear?
Hammer hits good breakpoints sooner, so it's harder to multi-kill or just kill things quickly on spear vs. hammer.
tropic vine
Just don't bring a knife
next socket
Might wanna get used to the hammer acre tho
Literally just failed to IIX the second scout because I swung too early LMFAO
Skill issue
tropic vine
Rip
next socket
No explosive tripmines in first zone in R7C3, that's basically a reset, right?
winged turtle
with bots? idk man that level is nutter butters with 3 bots even under the best of circumstances
if you checked the whole zone yes? reset? you need an insane amount of C-mines to solo the blood door
not mathematically impossible ig
winged turtle
ya, i just don't know where to put the C-mines if you are solo
low willow
the biggest thing imo is to fall back and let the mines go off instead of just running in
if you don't the bots get shredded before things get foamed
tropic vine
That's fair
next socket
I placed down every mine
winged turtle
nah i think you stack 8 c-mines facing into the door, so that they stay foamed forever
next socket
But Unfortunately I didn't kite away enough
And all 3 bots ran directly into a door
And all sat there
Meleeing vs. the entire wave
low willow
as for mine placements, not sure how good this one actually is but i've found myself placing one on the staircase facing the blood door. this way, it won't go off until something gets there, and it should foam at least some of the things towards the door
next socket
Pretty sure no trip mine = wipe /w bots
Unless you don't suffer from skill issue like I do
Or if you, for some reason, have a knife
low willow
It's not, but it's not particularly easy
tropic vine
Well it's not that big a set back
next socket
Well it's not that big a set back
Yeah I was prepped for a reset
No L here
I'm not good enough with the hammer to be able to kite and kill a full wave like that solo
Not without a knife, anyway
low willow
C3 is a level where you get a lot better at running around with your melee fast, especially if things go wrong
rugged lodge
will snatchers add into alt R4E1 to fit the original audio log? 🤔
Brother, brother I hear you! I hear you opening doors, I hear the screams of the Snatchers as they attack you! (SCHFR003.REC log)
winged turtle
@grizzled widget ^^^
neon gust
if its the old audiolog
winged turtle
i would be surprised they tend to only be adding things one rundown early
neon gust
if ir remember correctly they would swap sleepers and snatchers to refer to sleepers..
we did got big chargers in alt r3
might be a possibility of getting snatcher early too
but it would make no sense since r7 its the rundown in wich we discover the snatcher
winged turtle
enemy variants have shown up sooner, but boss reveals haven't. probably no Snatchers in ALTs
low willow
i don't expect a snatcher to show up in alts just because the first snatchers you find wouldn't have a big impact
that room is filled with so much dreadful environmental storytelling
for it to be something you already saw 3 rundowns ago (assuming all alts are out and you're a new player going through them or something) would be a bit of a letdown imo
sturdy glen
also wouldn't have the context of r7b1 ending schaeffer voiceline
icy cave
Stupid question, does the hammer charge faster than the spear?
It better in every way but range. But then again shoving costs stamina on Spear but not on hammer. Hammer can be used sprinting. etc etc etc. Basically there is no reason to play Spear as soon as you got stealthing down
little dirge
hammer is just way to versatile and does most the things other mele weapons do and if devs truly cared about mele weaps balance hammer would be first to get nerfed, for exaple a spear treatment would be lovely but prolly to much for no more sprinting and bonking at the same time or longer charge or lower dmg at the start of charging to remove the 5% bonkage, oh yeah and maybe a stagger reduction would be nice 2
gritty hatch
i just got the game, how do i play by myself
little dirge
i just got the game, how do i play by myself
u suffer until u are ready to join this discord to find a group
gritty hatch
fuck eh
little dirge
or you get good at kiting and managing your stamina and start running marathons while kiting hordes of enemies
winged turtle
hammer is just way to versatile and does most the things other mele weapons do a...
Hammer is the jack of all trades, and the master of some.
little dirge
Hammer is the jack of all trades, and the master of some.
would be true if it was "the master of most"
like if spear did not have the movement penalty while charging at least hammer would have some competition but as it is now there is just 0 competition to hammer
winged turtle
ya
cold quarry
also wouldn't have the context of r7b1 ending schaeffer voiceline
honestly first playthrough I thought he was talking about the meatballs
icy cave
i just got the game, how do i play by myself
That's the neat part. you don't 👍
rugged lodge
enemy variants have shown up sooner, but boss reveals haven't. probably no Snatc...
:( very wish they add them to fit that old schaeffer log
ocean spindle
i just got the game, how do i play by myself
im 8 hours late, but u can do runs with bots, it can be harder and it can be a lil more stressing but at the end its really the only way to play solo as a newie, once u have like 200 hours u might be able to solo w/o bots some levels
jagged shore
honestly first playthrough I thought he was talking about the meatballs
After we played b2 and tried to do secondary a buddy of my was convinced it was actually referring to ||shadows||
dawn furnace
is a 99% detox booster possible?
weary mesa
Yes
dawn furnace
okay thank you
dry pumice
Become the ultimate fog diver.
winged turtle
99% grants full immunity for some reason. but 98% you can still notice it going up
low willow
No, 99 isn't full immunity. It's just close enough that you have to hang out in the fog for quite a while to notice
You might notice a pixel of infection appearing when your HUD sways as you turn/move/etc
Source: I've used a disinfect pack on someone that told me they had a 99% booster (I know I checked their booster out once but I don't remember if it was that run)
spark wolf
cuz 99 is twice as good as 98
sacred dew
Hammer is the jack of all trades, and the master of some.
Highest base melee damage. Also highest stagger damage
past mesa
cuz 99 is twice as good as 98
Shut up. We don’t like math here
Save it for the speedrun server
sacred dew
99% grants full immunity for some reason. but 98% you can still notice it going ...
rounding error, like how main damage 15% is weirdly rounded down to 14%
spark wolf
Shut up. We don’t like math here
let me tell you about seed indexing
winged turtle
let me tell you about seed indexing
past mesa
let me tell you about seed indexing
Pls index my seed
spark wolf
Pls index my seed
m_step on me
soft crater
rustic kestrel
Word on the street about the techman klust? :3
rustic kestrel
Ye ye ye
ocean spindle
everyone says its
kinda broken
i dont like it but thats cause im kinda dumb but its a pretty nice weapon
rustic kestrel
Roger roger, about to run my first round with it
ocean spindle
good lucksss
turbid horizon
Roger roger, about to run my first round with it
the gun sounds so good
rustic kestrel
the gun sounds so good
Ikr anything with the word cannon sounds dope lmao
turbid horizon
i am going to die
craggy saffron
Why are some of the Missions yellow in R7?
what dose it mean?
ocean spindle
its more story centered missions that have some lore
low willow
it's pretty arbitrary tbf
the reward system was also different back when R7 released
instead of one apparel piece per level, it was one for each of those yellow levels, plus an extra at 3/6/9/10 mains (I think)
you also got some for 1/2/4 secondary and overload completions, too, but now you don't (which is lame but fair for R1-3 to not be terrible for apparel)
craggy saffron
Ah okay
Thanks!
low willow
C3 and E1, while they do not have the border, are also somewhat story focused in the sense that you get to listen to Schaeffer and Henriksson yell at each other for a bit (especially in C3)
ocean spindle
instead of one apparel piece per level, it was one for each of those yellow leve...
no i do think theres was one for each level, but also one for completin extreme and overload objectives
soft crater
schaeffer sus
ocean spindle
but u still got one for every level completion
low willow
no i do think theres was one for each level, but also one for completin extreme ...
there definitely was not one for clearing each main the first time, it was:
3/6/9/10/all (10) main
1/2/4/all (4) secondary
1/2/4/all (4) overload
A1/B1/C1/D1/D2
turbid horizon
yeah cryo's right
turbid horizon
i think ovl was just 1/2/all for R6 (bc 2 was all)
low willow
It was pretty weird to have two rewards for 10main/4sec/4ovl which is why i remember it
turbid horizon
and extreme was 2/4/all
turbid horizon
no they're spooders
low willow
they're the old apparel unlock conditions
turbid horizon
low willow
but yeah R6 was
A1/B1/C1/D1
entire EXT gives one
3/6/9/10 main
2/4/5 sec
1/2/all ovl
turbid horizon
ohhh right EX got changed to 2/4/5 from 2/4/all bc of CX
soft crater
turbid horizon
gonna have a breakdown breakdown
low willow
but yeah R6 was
A1/B1/C1/D1
entire EXT gives one
3/6/9/10 main
2/4/5 sec
1/2/all...
I don't think this counts the palettes you got either
past mesa
‘‘Twas the night before r4.
soft crater
tropic vine
On the 5th day of r4 the Warden gave to me
verbal zinc
5 triggered scouuuuuuts 🤗
cyan apex
4 groups of hybrids
hidden ridge
3 FROG Repellers
tropic vine
2 mine deploys
dense flume
1 yellow syringe
glad pike
you did it wrong
cobalt girder
Is it possible that we have reached the random apparel cap ? no more "random" items ? I have finshed all misions on previous rundows (that are currently in the game) and I have not recived apparel for the R4A1.
heady moat
Is it possible that we have reached the random apparel cap ? no more "random" it...
Yes.
cobalt girder
😦
ruby temple
I am still at work but I have to know - how good is the precision rifle buff? How much quicker does it reload?
heady moat
(there are only enough cosmetics to allow for 46 random drops)
honest lion
I'm getting a bug where my high cal reload to 5 instead of 6. Has that always been there?
minor fractal
I am still at work but I have to know - how good is the precision rifle buff? Ho...
It's the same, lol.
Its main issue is still that 8 mag size is ludicrously small for the weapon it's trying to be.
ruby temple
It's the same, lol.
I'll see how it feels later on, thank you for the shout though!
cobalt girder
(there are only enough cosmetics to allow for 46 random drops)
Will there be more in the future ? And if so will I recieve them even tho I already finnshed the misions ?
heady moat
Will there be more in the future ? And if so will I recieve them even tho I alre...
🤷♀️
Calle has been made aware of the issue in #gtfo-spoiler-chat
ocean spindle
what did he said? i dont wanna get spoiled goin in there
can u send the link of the message pls?
little dirge
that hes running around the office
heady moat
can u send the link of the message pls?
He said to DM him your steam ID just now #gtfo-spoiler-chat message
ocean spindle
oh
weird ksdkm
tardy ingot
appearantly 19=
soft crater
devout nimbus
Is low rpm machine gun fire now
winged turtle
appearantly 19=
what break points does it miss now? just C-scouts?
past mesa
what break points does it miss now? just C-scouts?
none really acutally
it is the ammo
comapred to sniper
latent obsidian
ignoring the obvious strikers?
latent obsidian
hey at least special damage boosters players will be laughing
weary mesa
at least it was a slight nerf to the god awful original R4 buff
winged turtle
hey at least special damage boosters players will be laughing farming
tardy ingot
none really acutally
strikers into body
now needs 6 bullets for a giant striker (tho you never rly did it like that anyway)
need to be a bit more on the c scout rn
winged turtle
the scout it needs to be from behind now?
latent obsidian
That would only be the case if it triggered before the last 2 bullets hit it
There's still plenty damage to frontshot them with the current change
main dagger
the weapon & tool added with Alt://R4, were they previously removed weapons?
heady moat
yes
(updated autopistol stats are visible on the wiki, idk the auto sentry stats so those stats might be a bit outdated)
velvet reef
any tips on how to use auto sentry properly?
neon gust
Slap it ina. Good funnel and use cc weapons along side
neon gust
You will see A LOT OF orange hitmarkwr
velvet reef
same difference
next socket
What is symbiosis 'ammo' on the shotgun sentry?
next socket
Is that specifically for the shotgun sentry?
I thought symbiosis increased tracking speed
noble sierra
It increases lockdown speed, rate of fire and reduces ammo consumption
Sniper sentry also has bio symbiosis
wheat tulip
any Dev explain, how did u manage to create Rundown 4 with just only 60mb update
jagged shore
not a dev but, well firstly i'm pretty sure parts of the update were already in and just needed a switch flipped from false to true to show up
but the levels themselves are just big json text files i'm pretty sure, with information for how to tell the game to generate the level, namely seeds for generating the zones
neon gust
Re used assets
Everythong its already inside the game
When this was new it was actually like 1gb
wheat tulip
thanks
tardy ingot
BC and hel gun definetly got hit well
hel gun far less so (but god it fucks with muscle memory)
PR buff does basically nothing 
neon gust
Smg and pr*
soft crater
SMG/Pistol
neon gust
ocean spindle
pr just
exists i tried it is same as ever
soft crater
Imo
ocean spindle
:^
soft crater
Didn't make sense
neon gust
Smg pistol pr 
tardy ingot
pistol is def better than smg and pr
combat shotty got a random buff to its efficiency
now having 22.5 per refill
ocean spindle
i didnt tried pistol i tried autopistol but the smg buff i
kinda didnt notice it
tardy ingot
hel pp is fun
soft crater
It is. Just. It feels like a weird buff to give considering its reload is already pretty fast
tardy ingot
noticeable changes are HAR not being dog shit recoil wise (still noticeably worse than r6, but also higher fire rate that makes it look worse)
arbalist now being more of a heavy machine gun (feels very fun)
soft crater
noticeable changes are HAR not being dog shit recoil wise (still noticeably wors...
Give us back it's old sights
tardy ingot
and well burst cannon being fucked vs smalls
also veruta is now stagger machine vs smalls
ocean spindle
pr reload speed is barely noticeable :b
tardy ingot
Why even take HAR
way higher fire rate (and thus dps), better reloadspeed
ocean spindle
cause har shoots so fast idk i felt like like it was a machinegun
tardy ingot
no charge up (tho thats barely noticeable)
soft crater
no charge up (tho thats barely noticeable)
Skill issue
But yeah idk how much more faster they made it
Or having felt the recoil myself
tardy ingot
0.45 to 0.4 appearantly
ocean spindle
doesnt seem like a lot but u notice it
soft crater
But NGL the visual impact of Arby firing bigger rounds
The other thing I hate about these patch notes
Is how they called Veruta the normal MG
ocean spindle
the normal people machinegun
tardy ingot
doesnt seem like a lot but u notice it
same for hel gun. thought it was 0.3 at first with how much longer it felt
rain python
BITCHES KNOW NOTHIN. ARBY CAME FIRST
Wendy’s better
soft crater
Wendy’s better
visible disgust you eat fast food
rain python
*visible disgust* you eat fast food
Yeah Wendy’s nuts go into ur mouth
ocean spindle
byeee
soft crater
lunar rain
What does increased shell size mean? Or is it just for looks
winged turtle
i think it is just visual effects, ya
"technically" more pixels on bullets means higher chance to hit target. but ya just looks
lunar rain
Ok, just wanted to make sure it wasnt a fancy way of saying more damage
soft crater
"**technically**" more pixels on bullets means higher chance to hit target. but ...
Where is this for hel rifle
soft crater
Tell that to players who think some guns are bad but they just can't hit their shots
ocean spindle
me
soft crater
Hel rifle while it is strong if you can get the aim/angle
It would probably more viable just being able to hit more enemies because of the bigger bullet AoE
jovial aspen
is there a good resource for good weapon choices/loadout configurations, etc?
winged turtle
there is a spreadsheet floating around with weapon stats
jovial aspen
yeah i just found it actually, unfortunately i have a single braincell and can't figure out how to read it LMAO
winged turtle
thats a really bad debuff, next time you load in you probably should spec differently
craggy pier
can someone pls explain what "bullet cost" is in the post that guy made in wiki-chat?
soft crater
Be like fallout 1 and spec all into strength but no intelligence
Strong af but can't communicate
Some shit in relation to how much you resupply back/max ammo cap etc
Idk the specifics
craggy pier
I'm still confused but thank u for answering 🤔
dry pumice
That explains literally nothing
winged turtle
I'm still confused but thank u for answering 🤔
so every bullet you fire from a gun costs "1 ammo" from the clip right?
so if something modifies the "bullet cost" then each bullet costs, 0.8 or 0.5 ammo instead
craggy pier
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Ammunition_Pack#How_ammunition_works_in_GTFO
thank u
heady moat
np
heady moat
so every bullet you fire from a gun costs "1 ammo" from the clip right?
so if so...
well, bullet cost dictates how many bullets one can hold in reserve, magazine size is unaffected by bullet cost.
You can hold 460 units of primary ammo and 230 units of secondary ammo in reserve. Ammo packs restore 90 units for primary and secondary. To get the total reserve ammo capacity for a weapon, divide 460 (or 230 if secondary) by the weapon's bullet cost, and round down.
You start out every level (besides the tutorial ||and R7C3, allegedly||) with 300 units of primary ammo, and 150 units of secondary ammo
mental jasper
what does blunthead rounds mean
winged turtle
well, bullet cost dictates how many bullets one can hold in reserve, magazine si...
ahh yes, i thought they meant with biosymbiosis on sentries
heady moat
If a sentry is targeting a tagged enemy, it consumes bulletCost * symbiosisMultiplier units of ammo instead
(I think tools have a capacity of 150 units of ammo, but I'm not entirely sure)
(idk the bullet costs for any sentries besides the shotgun sentry though so 🤷♀️)
winged turtle
totally fair, and very thorough, thank you!
heady moat
np
vague bridge
@shadow flower was r4 meant for 4th month of the year or was that a funny silly coincidence? asking for a friend i swear
empty karma
will there be maybe a romance dlc added eventually? or is that in rundown 8?
amber spindle
New to the game, is there any weapons/gear to straight up avoid? And wtf does the foam gun do
ocean spindle
New to the game, is there any weapons/gear to straight up avoid? And wtf does th...
every gun has a place n a time to b, i would say u try em all to see which ones u like which ones u dont
and then investigate the 'meta' or somethin
even if i would suggest sticking with a large pool of guns
also foam can freeze enemies, u shoot it at the enemy or at the floor and when they come in contact with enough blobs they freeze, but the most useful... use ksks it has its reinforcing doors, that way when enemies try to tear it down it takes em longer, and this with mines can result in a big big nice death combo >:D
ocean spindle
yeah :]
but then again not all levels need every gun ksks
so just experiment n play and u will figure it out >:D
turbid horizon
yeah I always forget to bring CFoam when I really should be bringing it
turbid horizon
i did A1 with 2 sentry mines and Bio
honestly don't think foam is needed, my biggest offender tho was ALWAYS forgetting foam on R6B2
turbid horizon
Seem good at team killing tbh
based
amber spindle
The glock and the mines are what I’m drawn to rn
turbid horizon
high cal is pretty nice, good time to be using it bc it got buffed
amber spindle
The sounds tho
turbid horizon
honestly all of the weapons noises are just so satisfying
amber spindle
True
turbid horizon
my favorites are probably autopistol, Burst cannon, scattergun, and choke mod
scattergun is currently absent
will return to one shot bosses near you in ALT R6
lunar rain
What does the ext mean at the end of some levels in r4 ?
ocean spindle
EXT was a mechanic that basically added levels to a rundown, like for example u had a1 a2 and then months later u had an extension adding a3
rundown 4 had an extension
but those levels are just included in the ALT now
turbid horizon
R4-6 were extended
bold atlas
anyone experiencing frame drops in R4C2?
dusky tiger
random question
is the new hel autopistol any good?
minor fractal
No.
dusky tiger
damn
civic wave
depends what you're using it for
staggering enemies to support teammates, it's amazing
killing stuff, not so much
ocean spindle
yes!
minor fractal
Stagger-only weapons need a bit more to them to work, and imo AP isn't saved by just 1 pen and a wide ammo pool.
ocean spindle
i think its good but it needs some like
specific plases to work cause its a more specialized gun
minor fractal
You're better off playing kill weapons or weapons that have good stagger balanced with TTK.
ocean spindle
since its, mostly a stagger weapon
minor fractal
Basically.
dusky tiger
yea
shrewd dirge
so, any checkpoints in r4?
ocean spindle
pretty sure nuh
past mesa
so, any checkpoints in r4?
R4e1 reactor has one
civic wave
R4e1 reactor has one
does it really
please dont break my heart
God dammit why would that level have a checkpoint, jish giving me trust issues
shrewd dirge
honestly, i feel like he's trolling me
weary mesa
You guys falling for the same troll from ALT:R2 release
past mesa
No I am not a boy crying wolf
spark lantern
Does shoving stop enemies from alerting others when awaken?
past mesa
It can
You have to stop the scream
Shortish animation if you cancel the room doesn’t wake up
fringe trellis
should i do the extension levels along with the rest or do them all after im done with the main ones
spark lantern
Okay and for dodging striker tongues is it the same as shooters where you go one direction and switch last second?
minor fractal
should i do the extension levels along with the rest or do them all after im don...
Along with the rest.
Prioritize doing things in order of difficulty whenever you lack a reason not to.
shadow flower
<@264164771669082112> was r4 meant for 4th month of the year or was that a funny...
Not that I know of 😉
craggy pier
calle cosmetic fix when?!>\1/?
craggy pier
does 2 pierce mean the bullet shoots through 1 enemy to hit 2 or 2 to hit 3
jagged shore
the former, hit 2
winged turtle
so every gun has pierce, but only pierce 1?
weary mesa
Yesn’t
harsh raven
What's the top tier weapon without boost?
winged turtle
Pierce zero doesn't mean it has zero Pierce, it means it doesn't hit enemies. lolol
winged turtle
What's the top tier weapon without boost?
Hel Auto pistol is super effienct for reactors and alarms
that and the secondary pistol for killing power
tardy ingot
Hel Auto pistol is super effienct for reactors and alarms
wha
dont take it for reactors 
you wanna kill stuff
wheat wha
winged turtle
but stagger
tardy ingot
its good for stagger
winged turtle
keeps spawn cap longer
tardy ingot
but reactor waves always spawn a set amount
winged turtle