Hey so uplink in r7c3 overload not working
#gtfo-related-questions
latent pollen
ocean spindle
does the numbers not show up
cause if thats the case a restart might b needed
latent pollen
uplink confirm don't show up
tardy ingot
wdym dont show up o.O?
ocean spindle
uplink_verify is just not
tardy ingot
you can just type that in with the right terminal
ocean spindle
there?
latent pollen
confirm is not sent to the inteded terminal
tardy ingot
its a duo uplink, you need to start it with a uplink_confirm prompt @ocean spindle
ocean spindle
ah
latent pollen
wdym?
tardy ingot
confirm is not sent to the inteded terminal
wdym send?
Its just a standard command on that terminal
latent pollen
Wait so do we start with uplink_connect <ip address>
latent pollen
on the other terminal right?
tardy ingot
yes
latent pollen
but what if its not working on the other terminal
tardy ingot
theres 2 you need
spare halo
UPLINK_CONFIRM doesn't show up
tardy ingot
did anybody try inputting uplink_confirm
spare halo
Yes
latent pollen
yes
tardy ingot
and pressing enter
tardy ingot
funny
Cuz before with duo uplinks you could insta start them with uplink_confirm and skip the connect after a checkpoint
spare halo
Tbf we also have no sound atm 
tardy ingot
Checkpoints are prone to break stuff
tardy ingot
Like 95% of all relevant game breaking bugs are checkpoint related
latent pollen
yes
low willow
If so, you HAVE to go do that one first.
low willow
The game still thinks it's active, and doesn't let you run two at once
tardy ingot
checkpoints 
latent pollen
imagine if the devs fixed it
latent pollen
the amount of redacted they would receive from the community
latent pollen
I might get yeeted for that
tardy ingot
fixing the checkpoints rly isnt that easy (even if people seem to say that quite often) cuz its not a single player thing
ocean spindle
idek how they added checkpoints thats kinda a miracle seein how it rememberes everythin
latent pollen
ig they have to make it so that dying and checkpointing restarts so that all processes are cleared
including uplinks
ocean spindle
i asked a bit of which one was the biggest map
... which one would b the smallest?
maybe, r1a1 since its 7 zones of about one two three rooms?
tardy ingot
maybe, r1a1 since its 7 zones of about one two three rooms?
7? its 4 zones 
also we talking full map or intended path to go through
tardy ingot
weeell even then theres bigger maps
the 3 glp zones are also all small to medium at best
first sec door you see and its zone is pretty big tho
ocean spindle
7? its 4 zones <:swatBlank:640929106950750228>
yes 7
the one u start, command, the hub, two at the sides, key one, endin objective
all the map :3
all the zones
ocean spindle
wouldnt the bigest map be r7c1 because of the 6 zones of just glp-2?
also i think even b2 is bigger
ocean spindle
but those zones r a bit bigger since they have-
well actually they might b like the same
tardy ingot
if we go by rooms. It has 19 rooms
r7a1 has 20 rooms (in 7 zones)
this is cuz 3 zones are 1 room
ocean spindle
i mean im just thinkin as in
meters
as in u were seein it by square meters
not by like amount of zones n numbers
but well r1a1 might b the smolest one
tardy ingot
would have to go into the game for that
r7a1 has some big rooms tho yea
but ye smallest should be r1a1
ocean spindle
a way to do it might b like takin a screenshot of the whole map of both n scalin em till the ivón of the person is the same size
that way we could see...
ohh
minor fractal
R1A1 is like 5 tiles, some not fully filled out.
The OG was a bit messier, but about the same size.
Slightly bigger, maybe.
R2A1 might be smaller, actually.
tardy ingot
mmh
minor fractal
~4 tiles, lots of one-room zones.
minor fractal
Wym by that, tho?
tardy ingot
the class 4 alarm room is pretty big no?
tho maybe…
rough to visualize the exact size differences
minor fractal
It occupies the same amount of space as R1A1's spawn from South to North about.
And if we included the next zone both are roughly full tiles.
ocean spindle
if i think of r2 i tbh see it bigger
but i see r3 smaller
spark wolf
wouldnt the bigest map be r7c1 because of the 6 zones of just glp-2?
nah the biggest is R7D1 thats why its +1GB every drop
tardy ingot
meanwhile my pc dies after 10 redrops of r7b1 when we open the first big door
ocean spindle
my pc dies
every time i do somethin
im gonna drop to all A levels n compare em on geforce now cause now the intrigue is killin me
minor fractal
R3A1 is also like 4-5 tiles, actually...
tardy ingot
you could potentially just check the uploaded maps and compare grids
its highschool lvl math
spark wolf
maybe you need to establish what you mean with bigger
ocean spindle
i never
searched if there were maps
i should do that
ocean spindle
maybe you need to establish what you mean with bigger
'smaller'
spark wolf
because i think one of you is taking raw tiles and the other is actually looking at the space you have on that tile
spark wolf
which is also why room A of first zone changes for one
minor fractal
I don't see a difference unless you double up on verticality.
spark wolf
while it doesn't for the other
minor fractal
Because every full tile is always 64x64
ocean spindle
well technically m3 but on the map r m2
spark wolf
ray
i mean thats not what he means
hes looking at the actual tile
when you walk around in the tile
how large is the room
ocean spindle
how many steps
spark wolf
if theres a big ass rock on both sides
ocean spindle
n stuff
spark wolf
the room is now smaller
ocean spindle
if theres a wall
minor fractal
Yeah, but I think most of the space is accessible.
ocean spindle
... w whatcha mean by that
tropic vine
_how many steps_
from like 1 side of the level to the other?
minor fractal
I mean there's not a lot of empty space in most tiles.
soft crater
The OG was a bit messier, but about the same size.
looks at the unfinished stairs that everyone fell off back in the og r1a1
minor fractal
Walls separate two walkable areas, usually.
ocean spindle
from like 1 side of the level to the other?
all the sides
imagine a map above the other map
like r1a1 map over the r2a1
minor fractal
Rather than having large voids between.
ocean spindle
which one is bigger
minor fractal
Can you be more specific about how you'd measure.
ocean spindle
like that :D
minor fractal
Like, if I overlayed part of R1A1 over R2A1, would you say those are the same size if rooms fill that entire space>?
ocean spindle
im gonna put an image of the whole map above the other, lower the opacity
n see which one takes more space
tropic vine
i mean if you're gonna do that you're gonna have to calculate how long something is on the map and then use that to to mesure the whole level
ocean spindle
Like, if I overlayed part of R1A1 over R2A1, would you say those are the same si...
if on the map they both appear like a square, yes
if they look to b the same yes
minor fractal
Okay, so I think I have the right idea then...
I think R1-R3 A1 are going to be very similar sizes.
It's going to depend on how much space odd rooms take up.
ocean spindle
mh theres no image for the maps of the alts. im gonna have to do it myself
theres only the og
is the r3a1 map changed a lot?
minor fractal
Not really tbh.
I think there's exactly one room that's a different tile, and everything else is 1 to 1.
ocean spindle
ah yeah the two alarms i think
minor fractal
No extra rooms, no missing rooms, etc.
Nope, it's the same iirc.
Or, kind of
The one to the right
is different
tropic vine
i mean if you're gonna do that you're gonna have to calculate how long something...
just booted up the game and probably the "best" way to mesure levels is by the dots on the map
tardy ingot
mh theres no image for the maps of the alts. im gonna have to do it myself
There is
ocean spindle
i searched :D
i did found em im just dumb
minor fractal
W8, where?
ocean spindle
uh just searched on google the levels n maps
minor fractal
o
ocean spindle
but r3 doesnt have any
thats why i asked if it was very different
but i did found r2 n r1
my pc is dyin PLS CLIP STUDIO DONT CRASH
spark wolf
minor fractal
Eyballing it, I think that R2A1 is probably the smallest.
Seems like 3.5ish tiles worth of area, plus dig site tiles are oddly shaped.
past mesa
I think that is r7b3
minor fractal
R1A1 and R3A1 seem like they're at least up to 4.
hardy grotto
R2a1 sounds abt right to me
minor fractal
Can't think of any other map around this ballpark, either.
minor fractal
r4a1 >w>
Do you count secondary?
Even w/out, it's at least 4.5, 5 tiles. Close, but definitely bigger than R1A1 or R3A1.
minor fractal
Nice.
ocean spindle
might no b perfect but either way
minor fractal
I think you can post images in #gtfo-spoiler-chat if need be.
ocean spindle
so comparing:
R1 and R3 have about the exact same size
R1 has the resource zone at the top, and the neonate ending zone of R3 compensates it, the differences are minimal.
R3 and R2 have about the same conposition, but the R2 falls shorter in every front, the north is smaller and doesnt reach as far, the west too, and the only extra room they both have is 105 in R2 and zone 253 in R3, R2 is smaller
R1 and R2 is kinda huge R2 is much much smaller, R1 just eats it up
SO R2A1 is the smallest one, is the most tiny map on GTFO :]
also idk how would i share these images w/o it being confusing as hell
minor fractal
Fair.
minor fractal
R7A1 is big p sure.
minor fractal
It's like 3 tiles just on the south to north path, side zones + neonate + terminal room easily bring it to 5 or 6.
ocean spindle
im just gonna add it in real quick
it prob says ive been writin on spoiler chat for like 5 hours
also the training but im not gonna
count it
its obv it is the smallest one but we talkin missions
minor fractal
Real shit only
elfin flower
How do the GTFO voice channels work? Is it just for randoms looking for a team or?
ocean spindle
uh kinda
u join a vc, u post a message askin for people to join ur lobby in the LFG channels, they join, n u play while usin the vc to communicate bout the game
.t lfg
uneven gulchBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
elfin flower
okay thanks
ocean spindle
its okii
scarlet bane
uh
Im in R3A3 at extraction right now and its not extracting. Does anyone know any fixes?
No enemies are spawning anymore
cold quarry
welcome to the void
scarlet bane
Yeah im with two others
vague bridge
are they moving
vague bridge
report it to #1049599987878723635
scarlet bane
Ah good idea
vague bridge
that is an issue ive never heard of
past mesa
uh
Im in R3A3 at extraction right now and its not extracting. Does anyone know a...
I know the fix
If you are still in lobby
past mesa
So you need to kill all your team mates
Then rez one and
Down yourself as they are getting up
Easiest way if with a mine
scarlet bane
Thanks!
past mesa
thats just mean
I legit being serious
arctic marten
only way to survive is to res someone as you die so it counts
past mesa
No worries
past mesa
only way to survive is to res someone as you die so it counts
Do you know why it works
I discovered it by accident
tropic vine
what dose the iix siringe do?
past mesa
Yellow or red
tropic vine
yellow
past mesa
Boost melee dmg by 3 times for one hit for 7 sec
tropic vine
oh okay thank you so much
arctic marten
Do you know why it works
not a clue
hardy grotto
Do you know anything other than losing
arctic marten
do you
hardy grotto
yea i know a lot about winning
arctic marten
yea id have a 100% winrate too if i only played on haz 3
inland vault
So my friends have long since been opposed to using the sniper rifle due to concerns over ammo efficiency. Are they wrong about not bringing it along into our expeditions? I've seen quite a lot of other groups bring a sniper in their runs. Stat-wise it looks very powerful against giants, but I'm afraid if weapons like the HEL rifle and burst cannon are better alternatives in general play.
past mesa
sniper and burst cannon and hel guns are good
ocean spindle
since a shotgun is probs netter
inland vault
alr ima try to convince my friends to let me bring along a sniper rifle when they come back from vacation
ocean spindle
it should b said
sniper does struggle a lot when takin it unless its a mission with a lot of big guys
so it is a big killer but b careful cause not every mission, needs every weapon
inland vault
i think the other reason why my friends don't like sniper is because of skill issue lol. they can't hit head to save their lives and i think i'm the only one in my group that semi-regularly plays shooters.
ocean spindle
fair
i suck as sniper too n dont have it for that
cold quarry
So my friends have long since been opposed to using the sniper rifle due to conc...
sniper's great. don't bring more than one
tacit zealot
Sniper is an insane weapon if you are good at holding with your main weapon
hidden ridge
Sniper deletes hybrids and the same cannot be said for HEL Rifle
Just dont bring more than one
tardy ingot
^
And while burst cannon doesnt 1 shot giants from the front (leaves them at the hp of a striker), its a far better choice if you arent going for super high range sniper kills or wanna get rid of hybrids with sniper.
rugged lodge
Suggestion: add an option to turn off the dust particle effect in settings
solemn flint
So my friends have long since been opposed to using the sniper rifle due to conc...
sniper is a delete giant+hybrid gun in 1 shot if aim for head( dont know if it can delete charger scout or not)
for example, in alt r2b3 resource room, there are 6 giants, 2 in each room and no small enemy. quickest way to not risk it is to use the sniper rifle and 1 shot all of them
sniper is good to have in a team because of the ability to delete high thread enemy with 1 ton of damage, so to not make the sniper too op, u only have a really small ammount ammo, which purnish a lot if u missed
civic wave
sniper can one shot charger scouts to the back
solemn flint
So my friends have long since been opposed to using the sniper rifle due to conc...
sniper is great for the job that required it, but for other jobs, u have better option
dry pumice
Snipers are great giant deletes, can oneshot charger scouts, amazing against bosses, but require more skill and precision.
Currently it is overshadowed by burst Cannon which is just generally better almost at everything and requires less precision.
minor fractal
If BC doesn't get nerfed, it's probably time for a Sniper buff.
dry pumice
Yeah... Just needs like 1 extra mag or something and it will be perfect.
What was it before?
3+15+
minor fractal
3.6
dry pumice
3+12 and one mag?
minor fractal
Max might be 3+9, not sure.
dry pumice
Can't remember either...
minor fractal
Max ammo doesn't super matter, though.
dry pumice
They skipped a whole extra mag of nerf then.
3+12 is perfect imho
And maybe like... 4 bullets per refill, maybe 5 tops
tardy ingot
3+9
4 is gonna be fine
5 might be strong but not broken?
but it never got tested
6 was just too much
dry pumice
They should learn from dota school of balancing.
minor fractal
My intuition is that around 4.5 is the sweetspot.
dry pumice
+1% stat difference with each patch until it feels right.
tardy ingot
imo either 3+9 with 4 or 3+12 with 5 for smooth refills
4.5 would feel weird to refill imho
solemn flint
4 is gonna be fine
why does 1 bullet more in 1 mag make a huge diffrent?
dry pumice
Because it's a sniper rifle.
That's 1 extra big boy you can just oneshot.
Very high value.
minor fractal
Better ammo economy for bosses is also a big deal.
tardy ingot
why does 1 bullet more in 1 mag make a huge diffrent?
sniper has the highest value per "bullet"
at least vs giants
minor fractal
It overkills most tumors so hard that choke mod is just better for moms (regular) and tanks.
solemn flint
1 bullet more is 1 more giant ded hmm
solemn flint
yea, maybe 4 bullet really make a diffrent
dry pumice
Anyone wrote any balance essays to 10c yet?
soft crater
It overkills most tumors so hard that choke mod is just better for moms (regular...
remembers a random I played with who took a bunch of special damage with sniper.
tardy ingot
hey you only need 50% to 2 shot giant strikers and chargers
soft crater
soft crater
hey you only need 50% to 2 shot giant strikers and chargers
Ngl this was r6 sniper but the reasoning they took it was for tumors.
soft crater
Mother/tank tumors
tardy ingot
the nerf wasnt cuz sniper was that good vs mom/tank (well tank maybe)
sniper actually wasnt that good vs mom even in r6
but a single sniper made every giant/chicken/hybrid on the map a non issue
soft crater
It wasn't but the guy at the time claimed it helped kill them faster
tardy ingot
yea people often just dont get stats
especialyl % stats
i see people going crazy in newer parties and change their loadout cuz they got a 20% mine dmg booster
hidden ridge
Oh no you reminded me of that guy that just went ON and ON on how sniper was broken even if the discussion had 0 to do with it
His name started with a Z or something like that
hidden ridge
yea people often just dont get stats
I like how usually they could just hover mouse on the stat and it explains (usually) the "details"
in R6
hidden ridge
he started the game and in a week was shit talking people for no reason with a passive aggressive behaviour
soft crater
Then again how many people would know what hollow point rounds do
soft crater
he started the game and in a week was shit talking people for no reason with a p...
Toxic newcomers
Happens with newcomers 40/60 from my experiences.
tardy ingot
that reminds me of the person that argued with ray and didnt wanna accept that hel rifle isnt absolut god tier broken but just average
soft crater
60% mostly being chill and learning
hidden ridge
Happens with newcomers 40/60 from my experiences.
It's the 100-200h syndrome where people think they know most of everything
tardy ingot
its fucking funny
soft crater
This is why I hate intermediate players.
They learn some stuff from outdated videos and read wiki stats
soft crater
It's the 100-200h syndrome where people think they know most of everything
Me hating I have 1000+ hours. Then again I didn't play as much back then so it would've amounted to much more had I Played a lot during r3/4/5
I did complete r3 but back then I was being carried by the group I played with at the time
hidden ridge
It just that it mostly matters on how you use said hours
soft crater
It just that it mostly matters on how you use said hours
I was young and stupid then but I'm still young stupid but with a little bit more experience now
hidden ridge
someone can get "coached" a bit from a vet and learn stuff they 99% could not in 100 hours of playing ingame lfg or with bots
soft crater
I will say.
tardy ingot
also info may change
soft crater
I didn't learn stuff about how to play from videos.
hidden ridge
I learned so much shit in so many games by simply watching people that knew what they were doing and taking notes
soft crater
Practically all I've learned was from reading wiki/spreadsheets and watching others/others telling me.
Give or take some misinformation but I've weeded out which is true and which is fake news
minor fractal
Big datamine enjoyer here.
soft crater
I've heard some about data mining but I'm not big into it
minor fractal
I just look at the easy stuff, I mostly bother other people about it.
tardy ingot
theres some interesting stuff with it
but i dont personally go through stuff
scan speeds obviously interested me
minor fractal
DataBlocks are super accessible, hardcoded stuff is a lot harder to find and then understand.
solemn flint
does anyone know how much main damage booster do u need so that hel rev can 2 body shot kill a shooter?
ocean spindle
about
87.5%
revos dmg is 8, so with that it turns to 15
so two shots makes it
30
soft crater
Shooters have 30 hp lol
solemn flint
thats a lot more than i expected
soft crater
You did say body shot
solemn flint
yes
soft crater
There's a reason shooters have a higher headshot multi
solemn flint
but i didnt expect it to need that much booster
soft crater
It's not like DMR needing 3% to headshot a striker
soft crater
DMR headshot on a striker leaves it with like 2 hp
ocean spindle
about 25%
solemn flint
hmm
thats a bit more than i expect
is the main damage and special damage booster really useless then?
soft crater
No
soft crater
It's just you need quite a bit to hit certain weakpoints
But regardless more damage leaves them weak for other weapons to finish
dry pumice
I don't know any besides DMR.
minor fractal
DMR, HEL Revo, Carbine, Burst Rifle, and HEL Gun come to mind.
Pump shotty and combat shotty you can bump their range in theory.
dry pumice
I guess if you increase special damage by 20% - you can make High Cal bodyoneshot shooters and backstab oneshot charger scouts how it used to.
soft crater
Pump shotty and combat shotty you can bump their range in theory.
Id probably still stick it in the giant strikers behind and blasting it ngl
I'm already imagining it. Having 100% damage boost on a shotgun
minor fractal
Giant OHKO
solemn flint
I'm already imagining it. Having 100% damage boost on a shotgun
that is a doom slayer shotgun
the power of the ultimate shotgun without the hook
dry pumice
+40% pump action got me through R2E1
It was oneshoting the little fuckers more consistant than usual at least.
...
But not all still.
soft crater
Unfortunately I've been using Hel rifle like a unorthodox shotgun lately.
minor fractal
You want to multi-target on surges, lol.
soft crater
Aside from the reduced precision dmg
minor fractal
so how does the booster improve carbine, hel gun and burst rifle
You'd want to get them up to 2-bursting to body or 1-shotting to body.
+24% special damage should get HEL Gun there.
solemn flint
thats definatly life hack
also about sentry, how good are they with sentry damage booster
dry pumice
I got dozens of "close range" boosters.
I do not know what it means by short range. 5m?
I guess you could put shotgun sentry in some very funny corners and choke point.
soft crater
I assume they are like the short range gun damage boosters
Within 7m
In which. Close range damage boosters are basically golden for burst/Shotgun sentries
But as for anyone to actually run it. Doubt it.
low willow
They don't hurt to use if you don't have anything better
red flax
I don't see burst weapons being used much, other than the carbine of course. Why is this? Is there something inherently worse about burst weapons?
tardy ingot
theres what, 3 burst weapons (carbine/burst rifle/burst cannon) ?
2 of them are top 2 in their category
and burst rifle is pretty good
cold quarry
carbine my beloved
red flax
Damn, guess I'm looking in the wrong places then lmao
tardy ingot
burst rifle isnt used much cuz people would rather use carbine. But its definetly not bad
cold quarry
yeah there's really no advantage to burst rifle over carbine in like. 95% of scenarios
ocean spindle
i mean theres no advantage of pistol smg assault rifle n all of those but
we should b havin diversity
red flax
I'm just looking through all the weapons rn because I've kind of just only used a couple. Some of them are confusing me a bit. eg: the new rifle that was added last update. It seems kind of just like the dmr but with less damage? I might be missing something
cold quarry
the Drekkar 556 is really fun
tardy ingot
assault rifle is a decent all rounder with single bullet hs stagger and (due to smg/bullpup) one of the better full autos
Pistol had a niche before rifle came to be
rifle is very similar to pistol
not to dmr
well the effiency aside
ocean spindle
rifle is kinda headshot gun, but it is not like required like the dmr
also yeah assault rifle i mightve crossed the line but u get the idea
tardy ingot
the thing with pistol is
its good in its range but rifle has it beat in all stats bar reload speed (it has a good reload cancel tho) and efficency
its like smg and pdw
but if pdw didnt have thermal
red flax
I don't really see the appeal of thermal tbh. Just being able to hear enemies is enough for at least right now. Haven't gotten to the end of R2 yet though
cold quarry
if it had a gimmick like...you could use it one-handed while carrying shit, i could see people choosing it over the drekkar
red flax
I completed R1 and recently finished ??? on R2
ocean spindle
oki so
chedows
it works very nicely on them :]
tardy ingot
thermals has some advantages, but with precision rifle being absolute ass theres only really pdw for it
pdw is good, sure. But thermals also having downsides kinda makes it meh outside its specific usecase
red flax
Ah I see
tardy ingot
but generally, biotracker rules anyway
ocean spindle
it also works like fine for the dark but thats just kinda there u dont need it
i only really take pdw when i see chedows
or
i feel bored
cold quarry
but generally, biotracker rules anyway
no-biotracker chads rise up
ocean spindle
cause different guns
tardy ingot
if it had a gimmick like...you could use it one-handed while carrying shit, i co...
the rifle?
nah just nerf rifle stagger (like why does it have that shit???) and buff pistol slightly
ocean spindle
no-biotracker chads rise up
chads? more like
pick the bio up pls
cold quarry
Sorry as a MINE MAN I morally cannot agree with that statement
tardy ingot
@red flax
regarding rifle: generally good gun TTK wise, great stagger. Overall just good stats
thermals: they sadly got nerfed somewhat recently to not work well in fog. Before that you could use them as a personal tracker in a way and speed up your movement in fogged up areas
red flax
I see, ttk means time to kill right?
tardy ingot
yep
hidden ridge
I feel like every discussion about thermal is hindered by PDW being the "only" weapon with it (not considering PR)
red flax
PR is interesting, it's another one that just feels kind of outclassed in a lot of ways to me
ocean spindle
:D
hidden ridge
It's usable in cases where there's low visibility, many long range small kills
tardy ingot
long range revolver
hidden ridge
Keyword being "usable"
hidden ridge
I only take PR in R1C1 tbh
ocean spindle
ah true too
hidden ridge
same for bullpup
soft crater
I see, ttk means time to kill right?
Toyota Truck Kit
ocean spindle
maybe in d1... nevermind
soft crater
ocean spindle
time till kiosk
soft crater
Imo rifle is still just a better HAR but in the main slot
ocean spindle
i dont
see it a lot
tardy ingot
thats just due to HAR ass recoil
take that away and its just simply better again (charger stagger aside, cuz why not give rifle stagger multi)
ocean spindle
this is a funk comparison for me but in terms in bullets they arent that
different
soft crater
Main differences really are
Semi-auto vs Full auto
16 rd mag vs 30 rd mag
main vs special ammo resups differences
25m range vs 12m range
I haven't really looked into stagger breakpoints the rifle hits in a single shot that it hits over HAR
soft crater
Main differences really are
Semi-auto vs Full auto
16 rd mag vs 30 rd mag
main ...
And well.
Rifle is easy to use vs HAR's ridiculous recoil
But then again the few people I see use HAR fire semi-auto/controlled bursts.
Even fewer are the ones who can full auto and actually hit targets
silver fable
burst rifle isnt used much cuz people would rather use carbine. But its definetl...
my impression from testing and talking a bit to ahto (confessed burst rifle enjoyer) is that it's more similar to something like the DMR
on which count it, like DMR, is more overshadowed by hel revo than carbine
minor fractal
I don't see burst weapons being used much, other than the carbine of course. Why...
Burst weapons tend to reward player skill, and most pubs aren't optimizing that hard.
arctic marten
does burst cannon reward my skill
neon gust
1 bursting as client with burst rifle be like
minor fractal
does burst cannon reward my skill
Yeh.
minor fractal
is there a separate speedrun category for burst cannon
Yes, R3D1: Bianhua
hardy grotto
that shouldbe my name
past star
Yes, R3D1: Bianhua
Alt://R3D1: Bianhua
ocean spindle
Alt://Rundown 3: The vessel. Expedition D1: Bianhua
past mesa
is there a separate speedrun category for burst cannon
There should be
Door bug category bc category
Same thing
lusty bramble
R1A1 SPEEDRUN WR NO DOOR CHEESE NO CHEESE FOAM NO BURST CANNON NO HEL GUN NO HAMMER PRE ALT R3 WEAPONS PRO COMMS NO KITE NO BOOSTERS
vague bridge
good question
ocean spindle
soft crater
R1A1 SPEEDRUN WR NO DOOR CHEESE NO CHEESE FOAM NO BURST CANNON NO HEL GUN NO HAM...
No beep
ocean spindle
the scattergun had a sight once?????????????
ok nevermind it was when it was bein developed
so weird
solar swift
hey, hope this is the right channel ^^
So i just saw that GTFO has a VR mod with actual motion controls, which sounds amazing since I have yet to shit my pants this week. Is it allowed or will it trigger a VAC ban? Also is it frowned upon since it'll probably make me worse at the game?
tardy ingot
check out the modding server for it
guys anybody know the command so it shows up again?
ocean spindle
.t modding
uneven gulchBOT
GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)
solar swift
ah thank you very much guys
soft crater
I had someone who got mad at me when I told him VR is considered Modded content
Guy seemed very adamant that it isn't
tardy ingot
i mean people get mad for stupid shit
soft crater
A lot of the newer players who use mods seem to get mad about it
Personally I just dislike the ones that particularly defended using mods that modified gameplay to be easier one way or another like the bio tracker mod that shows when sleepers are pulsing
I don't mind if they use it. But the specific cases that bother me are when they defend it like it needs to be in base game
weary mesa
Modders be like combining and placing down resources is QOL
Perfect booster with R5 booster is not cheating
hidden ridge
I've seen a "mod" played on twitch that had xp and whatnot
soft crater
Perfect booster with R5 booster is not cheating
I can only agree with this if it is for maximum glow stick power
hidden ridge
At that point it might aswell not be GTFO anymore
Might call that a Total Conversion
soft crater
You typically play that one private/or on modded rundowns latv
Since the classes and etc get different bonuses and shit like melee damage boost/move speed etc.
hidden ridge
Does the "placing down and combining res mod" work even if only the client has it?
soft crater
I specifically meant the XP one
But idk client side stuff and how all thT correlates/works together
weary mesa
Yea most of the "QOL" is client side
soft crater
I actually have wanted to test the total damage count mod but it's host-side only
Seeing how much damage each person individually has done
winged turtle
triple glowstick power boosters with melee down is QOL CMV
red flax
What makes a weapon better than the others? How much does damage help compared to other stats?
ocean spindle
normally its too many factors
recoil, ammom dmg, ammo efficiency, etc etc etc
even the sight can command if u like a weapon or not
many people dont like the dmr
for the sight
low willow
the biggest thing imo is the skill of the player using it, so weapons like the carbine that can be picked up easily and have solid stats to back them up are great
ofc stats matter but if you can't land your shots no stats can save you
minor fractal
What makes a weapon better than the others? How much does damage help compared t...
Breakpoints (including breakpoints for stagger and limb break) and how easily you lose breakpoints at range is a factor.
How well you can handle a variety of targets, and which you struggle with, is a factor.
Your weapon's uptime, how long the magazine lasts and how easily you can replace it, is a factor.
Your weapon's DPS or TTK, how quickly you can output damage or clear waves over either short or long periods, is a factor.
There's multiple stats that go into any one thing you might care about, but generally it's these downstream things that matter rather than raw stats.
HEL Rifle doesn't tend to struggle just because it has a smaller magazine, or a long reload, or a slow RoF.
The problem is that it has all of those things rolled into one gun.
tropic vine
question: how come that when you look up while a sleeper is "pulsing" the audio becomes muffled? is this a bug or just part of the programing
solemn flint
question: how come that when you look up while a sleeper is "pulsing" the audio ...
its maybe a bug
silver fable
What makes a weapon better than the others? How much does damage help compared t...
broadly speaking I'd say that specials tend to be characterized by how they perform in three categories: damage, uptime, and range
and those qualities are kinda composites of a number of raw stats and attributes, e.g. when I say "damage", I don't just mean the raw damage stat
solemn flint
What makes a weapon better than the others? How much does damage help compared t...
u dont compare guns, u try it to see what style fit u best, stat basiclly just help u to understand more about a gun and its potential
silver fable
things like breakpoints (e.g. does the gun 1shot a charger? does it 1shot headshot bigs?), fire rate and dps, damage per clip, and precision multi (so you deal meaningfully more damage to bosses and possibly bigs) make up the overall damage characteristics of a gun
uptime has to do with things like clip size, damage per shot/clip, reload times incl. cancels, etc.
range is mostly the stats as given, but things like shotgun pellet spread and machinegun recoil can affect effective range
for the most part specials get to have two of uptime, damage, range
if it has all three in good measure then it's probably broken
and to be a well-rounded player I'd say you want to know at least one special that does uptime+range, one that does uptime+damage, and one that does damage+range
so like, revolver, pump shotgun, choke shotgun would do
that's my take, anyway
mains tend to be similar to one another and oriented towards a similar purpose (i.e. give you some general capability to handle groups of smalls), you can more-or-less pick one main that you like and stick with it
with the proviso that carbine and hel revo are currently clear frontrunners
oh, and mains are mostly tuned so that they're not going to have enough impact to justify a long reload, which is unfortunate for something like the bullpup
soft crater
I don't remember if hel shotgun has a reload cancel or not
tropic vine
think it dose but its slow
soft crater
I just don't know if that reload cancel
Is faster or slower than bullpup
Bullpup reloads in 2.4 seconds
Hel shotgun reloads in 3 seconds (without cancel)
I've used this gun often but never compared the reload timing.
silver fable
hel shotgun is the one main that has outsized enough impact to justify a long reload
basically a special slotted in main
tardy ingot
it basically has 2 1/2 times the dmg per magazine
without even taking the pen into account
soft crater
Meanwhile newbies will practically always call Hel shotgun bad at first
tardy ingot
not only newbies
soft crater
Mostly at least
Then again I wouldn't recommend more 1 helshotgun. Maybe 2 depending on the team
arctic marten
common hel shotgun L
tardy ingot
Then again I wouldn't recommend more 1 helshotgun. Maybe 2 depending on the team
its level dependent
As fn said, its basically a special in a main slot
theres maps where its bonkers (see r2e1) and maps where its like? Why (r2d2)
vague bridge
hel shotguns short range makes it a high risk high reward type weapon
which doesn't sound very good to a newbie
tardy ingot
well yea
they dont yet understand that a lot of combat is in decently close range
soft crater
Makes me cringe seeing them use the guns at 20-30m ranges with guns that only range 4-6m
ocean spindle
hey if i like usin my pdw across the map is my problem
soft crater
bold ginkgo
which doesn't sound very good to a newbie
It’s also just highly specialized
It’s either really bad or good depending on the level no in between.
sacred tartan
Do I have to beat a level with real people in order to unlock the next level? I cant play any other place other than R1A1, I've been playing with bots
tardy ingot
you need to beat levels to unlock the later ones. (tho you can technically play them if somebody invites you)
You have access to the first level of every rundown tho (r1, r2, r3 and r7)
sacred tartan
But it wont let me. I can only play the first level of every rundown even after I've beaten it three times
It' just keeps saying "not completed"
And then if I exit the expedition I cant do anything BUT the training
sage knot
Did the original R2E1 had an amplifying error alarm like the new one does? and are there more cells then what's needed for the generators on the path to extraction?
worthy trail
yes and yes (if u bring a cell from outside of error zone)
tardy ingot
And then if I exit the expedition I cant do anything BUT the training
huh?
Thats weird, Are you using mods or smth by chance?
sacred tartan
huh?
Thats weird, Are you using mods or smth by chance?
No, I just started the game
winged turtle
huh
soft crater
verify game files? or reinstall
also check the text at the bottom right of the screen
austere carbon
Hello! Apologies if this gets asked a lot, I was just wondering if GTFO is ever coming to console/been announced at all. I’d really like to play it one day !
turbid horizon
no plans as far as we know
ocean spindle
Hello! Apologies if this gets asked a lot, I was just wondering if GTFO is ever ...
the devs already confirmed that sadly a console release is just prob not gonna happen
not only would it be monumental for a team so small to maintain two version on different platforms, but also some mechanics like the terminals or the movement would need a lot of tweaks to work, because gtfo doesnt care if its slow or fast movement on the joystick and you need a keyboard when playin with a controller to write commands
so even tho theres partial controller support, a release on another console that isnt steam deck is probably not happenin
austere carbon
Ahhh okay, that’s a shame but I understand. I’ll have to get a pc one day. I’ve never really watched gameplay because after hearing about it I knew I’d love it and just experience it someday, so I really appreciate your informative reply!
ocean spindle
thats honestly a very good option with this game, it is a super unique experience so
now that the rundowns are coming back, you can take ur time! so just hang on and i hope u get to experience it soon :]c
cold quarry
yeah biggest issue I could see would be the terminals
fiery frigate
Having an issue with R2D2, me and my friends frequently disconnect or crash from this level, we have come very close a handful of times up to waves 8 and 9 the game always crashes, this only happens on this particular level. Is this a known issue and how could we fix it?
soft crater
yeah biggest issue I could see would be the terminals
Controller users who have the keyboard attachment
ocean spindle
use the alphagrip ag-5
unreal blaze
Is there a way to maybe talk with the devs about an idea I had i think that would be a good addition to the game. I talked it over with some guys in the discord everyone seems to think it is a good idea atleast
minor fractal
Is there a way to maybe talk with the devs about an idea I had i think that woul...
What is the idea?
lofty fable
Johny came up with the idea of being able to melt down boosters to reroll them, or have a deterministic path to a particular boost
unreal blaze
we have a few ways to do it thought up but in its most simplistic form. "Instead of dropping boosters can we melt down booster into maybe Eridium. and use those to basically purchase specific boosters"
minor fractal
That is a non-horrible suggestion. However, I do not believe the devs are taking suggestions rn.
neon gust
Suggested befored
minor fractal
We can only pray.
lofty fable
I've seen a similar system in Destiny 2 where there are vendors that sell static versions of guns with random perks (that rotate every so often) and it's a pretty nice system. Here's to hoping our prayers are heard before they release Rundown 8
If they ratchet up the challenge for 8, deterministic boosters might be a nice way to offset it
Become a way for people to have fun flying through the game without directly cheating
neon gust
You can send it directly to calle or email them your suggestion
unreal blaze
is their a particular one i should message about it?
minor fractal
Calle is multiplying?
There is only one community manager, so message that person.
icy cave
You can send it directly to calle or email them your suggestion
e mail goes straight to spam box
icy cave
Is there a way to maybe talk with the devs about an idea I had i think that woul...
good luck m8. At this point in the game's burial I doubt they still do stuff like this
tardy ingot
If they ratchet up the challenge for 8, deterministic boosters might be a nice w...
i mean
Youd have 7 rundowns to practice and get better if the difficulty would be an issue
i dont like thinking of boosters as smth important to the game
They are ok at helping struggling players at times tho
minor fractal
It's one of those accessibility features where, yeah, not the biggest fan, but if you're going to have it at least make it better.
MM, CPs, boosters...
icy cave
i dont like thinking of boosters as smth important to the game
They are ok at h...
They aren't important to the game everything is EASILY doable without them
icy cave
MM, CPs, boosters...
Just remove the first 2 honestly. Game would actually be better off
tardy ingot
It's one of those accessibility features where, yeah, not the biggest fan, but i...
the better it is the more „necessary“ it seems to newer players tho imo
hidden ridge
I'd just remove MM and make it a server browser ingame thingy to be honest
You know, you click on matches and a list of both ingame or not lobbies appear and people could use the lobby title to express preferences or not
It would also show ping to host so you can have a vague guess of how much desynch there's going to be
I've always thought that the removal of server browsers from games was because of console-fpses, where people just wanted to join a match and that's it, or to (of course) control stuff like SBMM for competitive/rankeds
tardy ingot
then you have the need to make private lobbies so people cant join that arent friends or everyone will lock their spots who doesnt want people to join
hidden ridge
Yes... like many other games always had?
I'd also add a kick/ban function, maybe just during lobbies so people aren't going to abuse it
tardy ingot
matchmaking has a lot of issues youd need to fix to make it work well
Show ping towards you
Make lobbies have names so you can see if they want people or not
As you said kick/ban function, private function, which also has the negative of people possibly trolling by kicking people after an hour
Does it lock you towards stuff youve access to or is it possible to join everything? 2nd makes it far worse if new guys join on rando parties
and youd have to stop people from finding lobbies on the discord
hidden ridge
To me you make it sounds like they need to reinvent the wheel
while lobby browsers have been a thing since... I dont know how much
Of course I know it won't happen
game's very probably gonna get a "R8 full release thanks for the purchase" treatment
Regarding kick/ban I specifically said "just during lobbies"
dry pumice
Should've just made a server browser
I don't understand this modernity bullshit of "oh, its all about the automated matchmaking, who likes server browsers anyway"
The LFG is literally that, just with extra steps and very cringe
soft crater
Devs: single ping bio tracker while ADS. We can use this!
verbal zinc
dont worry the update is coming soon!!!
soft crater
dont worry the update is coming soon!!!
Soon™️
untold tangle
The LFG is literally that, just with extra steps and very cringe
they should just add a comunity app same as destiny
past mesa
they should just add a comunity app same as destiny
Or maybe add a server browser in game?
bold ginkgo
Honestly every pc game should have a server browser
Especially with a game like this where finding a game can be difficult sometimes
tardy ingot
yeah uh. Id disagree on that one
neon gust
Some games are better suit for matchmaking some for server brkwser
Gtfo and most coop games are better suited with a server browser
More mainstream pvp games feel better with matchmaking
Ty for coming to my ted talk
minor fractal
You're stealing my takes! 😡
neon gust
You're stealing my takes! 😡
We just based af
minor fractal
Great minds think alike.
latent pollen
Alright burning question, what does the c in c foam stand for
ocean spindle
cymbal
arctic marten
Alright burning question, what does the c in c foam stand for
its short for "Can you imagine not having been to Singapore?" 🇸🇬 🇸🇬 🇸🇬 🇸🇬 🇸🇬 🇸🇬
low willow
for an actual answer, probably construction. i dont remember where the log is but i remember there's a log calling it a construction tool
cold quarry
Alright burning question, what does the c in c foam stand for
you already know
rapid sparrow
for scouts, using the bat, do you need to aim for the occiput like for the knife or is any area of the head fine?
ocean spindle
the occiput :]
rapid sparrow
thanks
latent pollen
What does 10 chamber devs have to say about this 👀
rapid sparrow
why does my glowstick shine yellow? i've seen videos with them green
rapid sparrow
oh, thanks
raven oar
its short for "Can you imagine not having been to Singapore?" 🇸🇬 🇸🇬 🇸🇬 🇸�...
Ummm akshully I’d rather visit Tokyo ☝️🤓
grim oyster
Will I be able to play with bots none of my friends got the game
Or should I just not play the game
winged turtle
bots are fine to learn some things with, but lfg is pretty good, you can find fun folk on there
low willow
there are some levels that bots dont work very well on but for the most part it'll work out
ocean spindle
the game is defo playable but harder with bots, they need a lot of adaptation and learnin
and theres some levels that u just cant do with them, mostly very team coordination levels
generally yeah u will need to learn a bit more intensively this game and maybe ask more questions about it but its doable
in this server tho we have the LFG
to play with other people
low willow
generally though, every bot you can replace with a player will make things considerably more doable. doesn't have to be a friend, go conscript randos if you need
bold ginkgo
Generally everybody here is great, obviously some people will be better at the game then others. But for the most part it’s pretty fun.
void plume
Good evening my fellow anime pfp enjoyers 👋
soft crater
solemn flint
does anyone feel anoy about people who didnt put the rundown and level in a lfg post
i find that kidna annoying bc i have to waste time getting in just to see what level they want to do then leave bc i dont want to do that level
latent obsidian
Just wait for another one
You already know the kind of person they will be if they can't follow basic instructions
dry pumice
I am annoyed by it. But it's usually new players who don't know how to it. I just @ them advising to improve the post and call it a day.
I'm sure there are people here who love a surprise but still.
solemn flint
You already know the kind of person they will be if they can't follow basic inst...
it is actually amaze to see that more people than i expected didnt follow basic instructions and read the rule
solemn flint
I'm sure there are people here who love a surprise but still.
i dont hate surprise, its just annoying to waste time
1 time i got in to a lobby blind, found out that its not the level that i dont want to do, leave, saw another lobby that have the level that i want to do, join it but it was full
craggy pier
I wish all anime pfp users a very unpleasant day
thanks you too
arctic marten
burn in hell
hardy grotto
D:
craggy pier
wow i am so sad this is not nice team
soft crater
it is actually amaze to see that more people than i expected didnt follow basic ...
There's already a few who quit this game because it's through Discord LFG and Not Matchmaking
solemn flint
There's already a few who quit this game because it's through Discord LFG and No...
what an unpatient guy
soft crater
Then proceed to complain about things that have been stated throughout the years and is the norm here
The ones I typical despise are the ones who can't help but believe it's a game that is just another left 4 dead
Go back to playing L4D or B4B then.
lusty bramble
Who's playing back 4 blood with me
wary linden
Who's playing back 4 blood with me
dead game, still has more players then gtfo
soft crater
question. Did enemies in fog get this like red outline? when you flash lights at them in fog
soft crater
one guy was telling me it was a old feature of the thermal sights but I call BS because I don't remember those having red outlines initially
cold quarry
got them thermal goggles on
soft crater
idk
I could've sworn thermals did not have that slight red outlines early on
maybe during bug testing phases but NDA
ocean spindle
i don't see it on the thermals i see it normally but it's whiteish
soft crater
I'm gonna need to test it myself to be sure
wary linden
question. Did enemies in fog get this like red outline? when you flash lights at...
yes they did. as a bug
it was very noticeable in r7b2
you didn't even need the flashlight
even without thermal weapons you could see the outline
soft crater
Ironic. I happened to notice it in R7B2
wary linden
devs just broke something at some point that's all. what else is new 🙂
soft crater
Guy was telling me
It was a balance to thermals not seeing in fog
I was like. No fuckin way
wary linden
i'm more incline to believe it was a bug introduced because of thermals's implementation in the game itself
cause it started when r7 dropped
soft crater
Him defending it like that made me think it was someone hacking
But I see
Shitgamedesign
Then again. His pings were blue.
Which made me sus of him to start with. (He was purple)
wary linden
just "QOL" mod user
soft crater
Next to Greens pings showing up as Dauda
soft crater
just "QOL" mod user
He denied using qol mods too lol
I literally said Idc if he's using em
I didn't think people would still be scared of being discovered using mods
wary linden
it could also be a bug of color where he was hackett on his end but that's a rare bug to have the characters messed up
soft crater
Probably
wary linden
i don't pubs. i pub once in a month and i stumble upon a cheater. i have a friend rn in pubs and he also has a self-revive guy in the lobby rn.
soft crater
The Dauda ping name though I'd have to pay attention to it more. I've only had it say the default character names once when I was using mods with some friends
wary linden
so what is the points of pubbing here anymore
soft crater
Not much
soft crater
I play gtfo when nothing else is really hitting
Sadly pubs/shitgamedesign exist
Ah well. It could be hours of shitting on this game
Imma head out
wary linden
my favourite game
it's ok, there are some bangers games this year
soft crater
it's ok, there are some bangers games this year
But do they have glow sticks?
hardy grotto
I just want a fun game to play, man 
wary linden
re4R is fun 🙂
arctic marten
I just want a fun game to play, man <:FeelsBadMan:656268988606709760>
you are in the wrong place for that
craggy pier
re4R is fun 🙂
SO TRUE
hidden ridge
I may be exhagerated but I tend to quit lobbies if I see stuff like using non-avaiable weapons or colored names
icy cave
I may be exhagerated but I tend to quit lobbies if I see stuff like using non-av...
these people are not deserving of a play
hidden ridge
You should have seen the group yesterday that kept saying game was easy and doorglitched on R1B2
"It's easy anyway!"
icy cave
You should have seen the group yesterday that kept saying game was easy and door...
they should just make a doorglitch discord then and go there
hidden ridge
It's just jarring
icy cave
like why you gon glitch the game in any way without telling your team first
hidden ridge
"We're so good at the game! Let's prize ourselves by blocking enemy pathing towards us 100%! It's easy even if we don't!"
It's a shit easy map anyway but exactly because of that why would you even do that
icy cave
"We're so good at the game! Let's prize ourselves by blocking enemy pathing towa...
logic has left the world for a couple years now already. this is just a result of this
hidden ridge
Normally I at least have to shoot so I can imagine the game being a very weirdly done shooting training session
hidden ridge
logic has left the world for a couple years now already. this is just a result o...
Sad but true
icy cave
Sad but true
like some say: clown world
solemn flint
You should have seen the group yesterday that kept saying game was easy and door...
what tha fuc
r1b2 door glitch
that is the most disrespectful for a level that i have ever heard of
that is a sign of frecking failure
asian parents would smack them in the head with flip flop because of the frecking disrespectful
vague bridge
makes you wonder how many other expeditions they've completed this way
tardy ingot
2 :^ )
solemn flint
2 :^ )
if they have r1 r2 r3 on that list, i will smack them with the power of 1 trillion flip flop( the ultimate asian parents weapon)
and oh boi, ya dont want to know how mass destructive is that compare to nuke
oh wait, they do have r1b2 on that list
strong prairie
what are the best settings for visuals in gtfo? is it just max and is there some specific settings to see better?
winged turtle
umm i was told to turn bloom off, slowly crank up the FOV, turn off motion blur, but i didn't really notice those so idk
ocean spindle
motion blur just depends on if u like it
just keep the shadow quality [i think it that] up
n thats about it
strong prairie
thank you both
ocean spindle
its oki
strong prairie
winged turtle
past mesa
what are the best settings for visuals in gtfo? is it just max and is there some...
Shadows quality is the only thing to keep high
Rest of the game looks great on low
gaunt timber
Greetings ppl, how to join the region channel?
haughty finch
why is rundown 4-6 not showing but r7 is?
tropic vine
They are "re releasing the game" we did have rundowns 4-6 but only at a time, enough people didn't like that so now they are going to make those rundowns a bit more ballenced when they come out
minor fractal
I dunno if they need to rebalance much, just gotto adapt things that aren't quite the same because of backend changes.
tropic vine
Yea, that's true, I'd love it if they keep the difficulty the same, apparently rundown 3s difficulty was gutted (but idk i only got the game like 2-3 months ago)
silver fable
I was under the impression that r3 was buffed
at least in a3, c1, d1
I wasn't around for the original though so I could be wrong
r2 is where all the nerf complaints are (d2 despiced fog, e1 final error zone) if I'm hearing the old vets correctly
weary mesa
d2 one is funny
Old one had a disinfect station at the start so it wasn't that important to the level
Still pull last fetch code zone
silver fable
yeah, I don't think spicy fog would change my behaviour in that code zone
honestly I think it's still a really good level
weary mesa
yea, there's just a lot of doomer mindset about the game going around
icy cave
r2 is where all the nerf complaints are (d2 despiced fog, e1 final error zone) i...
R3 was mostly buffed. R2 mostly nerfed
R2B1, R2B2, R2C1, R2D1 all got nerfed. R2D1 was hit hardest
minor fractal
Yea, that's true, I'd love it if they keep the difficulty the same, apparently r...
R2 was gutted, possibly unintentionally, hard to say.
I felt like R2E1 got hit hardest.
R2D1 is largely the same I think.
icy cave
Oh yes R2E1 cause the flip of error zones
silver fable
I feel like I've heard that r2d1's alarms got softened by some unfortunate tile choices affecting pathing
icy cave
R2D1 is largely the same I think.
R2D1 the different starting lay out makes the enemies trickle down to you on the first two alarms
Meaning one dude with one sentry now holds while the rest scans
silver fable
which makes sense, it sure feels like the enemies are struggling to get through
minor fractal
They didn't do that before??
icy cave
They didn't do that before??
Nah og R2D1 I always got full waves
silver fable
I didn't play the OG so I don't know
silver fable
R2B1, R2B2, R2C1, R2D1 all got nerfed. R2D1 was hit hardest
to go through the rest of these...
is b1 about the class 9 -> 7 situation? I thought they patched that in the original?
I barely remember r2b2 apart from it being the cells level
c1 wouldn't surprise me, I want my time back after playing through alt r2c1
icy cave
to go through the rest of these...
is b1 about the class 9 -> 7 situation? I tho...
R2B1 is about the 4 extra doors you get to foam and mine for the class VII
R2B2 one extra door
R2C1 they removed the whole cell fetching and put an uplink there at the start. Now you can do that last and be right next to spawn for the Error. In OG all terminals were further back in the level
silver fable
I don't think pushing the closer uplink further in would come close to fixing my issues with r2c1
it's just a crap level
otherwise fair enough
though I'm not sure how much any of this other than e1 really matters
the b levels were all trivial duos, I feel like it'd only make a difference for newbies and possibly solos
icy cave
I don't think pushing the closer uplink further in would come close to fixing my...
It was trash back then as well
Ah and not sure about this but last uplink zone in R2C1 was infectious fog iirc
now it's just ..... fog
silver fable
was it a small zone that forced 1room uplink spawns?
icy cave
was it a small zone that forced 1room uplink spawns?
Yep
last one is. cause uplink is down in the fog in middle room and you have only 1 room on each side of it
tardy ingot
Ah and not sure about this but last uplink zone in R2C1 was infectious fog iirc
shouldnt be, fog cant change in a level afaik and the fog earlier in it was clean
icy cave
shouldnt be, fog cant change in a level afaik and the fog earlier in it was clea...
Between OG and ALT ? ofc it can change
R2D2
icy cave
fog stays same for a level
Yes that's why I said I was not sure about that one.
silver fable
guessing eva remembers the fog at the start of the OG, but doesn't remember doing the uplink so well
tardy ingot
hm?
i remember the last uplink we fid as a team
was in fog
but nothing infectous
craggy pier
meow
silver fable
hm?
k, then I'm not sure what you were getting at with your choice of wording further up
tardy ingot
Me just woke up
silver fable
ah
hollow kelp
can someone tell me why different weapons have different ADS sensitivity modifiers?
I can't hit anything with the choke mod because it has lower ADS sens
I swear I'm not making this up
lusty bramble
There arent relative aim sensitivities for different weapon ads
Sights that zoom in will have your sensitivity feel faster than ones that don't
They might fix it rundown 8 😀
hollow kelp
it's not super obvious or anything, but it's just enough to mess me up
it feels like decimals
but because I already play shooters at low sensitivity, I feel like it doesn't take the same arm motion to make the same degree turn
also, can we perchance ask for HUD elements to go bugger than 120%?
I would really like to have a BEEEG compass
and equipment status display
all of it gets really lost in the graphics sometimes
the font on the objective screen is also damn hard to read
even with glasses
I routinely get 8 and 0 mixed up
hidden ridge
I routinely get 8 and 0 mixed up
Sometimes I do too but it's not because of the font size but the font itself
hollow kelp
larger font would make it easier to read, without compromising the art style of the system-style font
hollow kelp
I remember someone wanted terminal fonts to be bigger.
the terminal fonts are just barely readable size
I wouldn't mind those being a pixel or two larger either
keen junco
Are they done making GTFO? Like is it finished and they're moving onto other projects now? I haven't heard anything about a new rundown or anything like that in a while.
past mesa
June 1st
upper ginkgo
June 1st
vague bridge
April 28th
hardy grotto
June 1st
winged turtle
June 1st
raven oar
Cosmetic dlcs would be so fire
ocean spindle
um no i dont wanna pay more thank u
raven oar
Or officially implement modding
I’m sure many would appreciate having to make mods no longer shy of the public eye
winged turtle
its good to have dreams
craggy pier
Cosmetic dlcs would be so fire
so true breastie I wanna give more money to a dev team that half abandoned their extremely unpolished game
icy nacelle
um no i dont wanna pay more thank u
They'd just sell you an ugly ass mask for like 10 Bucks anyway. 
And it'd be a reskin of an existing mask.
raven oar
so true breastie I wanna give more money to a dev team that half abandoned their...
Praying for cyberheist’s downfall rn
silver fable
Are they done making GTFO? Like is it finished and they're moving onto other pro...
alt r4 on june 1st, then alt r5 and alt r6 sometime after
culminating in r8 sometime in 2025
then game dead
honest lion
Does Mother spawn in R7D1 during the timed sequence at the end?
minor fractal
Does Mother spawn in R7D1 during the timed sequence at the end?
If you fail too many times, yes.
tropic vine
huh, i thought it was only the babies
honest lion
Yeah that's what I thought too
But my friend said he saw a mother
And I'm blind as shit so I need to confirm
tropic vine
huh, cool
honest lion
Also, can burst cannon one burst charger scout?
craggy pier
yes
honest lion
So it was THE GODDAMN BROKEN DOOR HITBOX
I woke up 2 scout cuzz I shot broken door instead of the scout 
craggy pier
You just need to hit 2 or 3 bullets out of 5 if it's the back or front respectively
honest lion
Gotcha
tropic vine
god damn
soft crater
Also, can burst cannon one burst charger scout?
For reference.
Charger scout 60hp.
Burst cannon 100 damage (20 damage per shot)
If you want be more specific. 100.5 (20.1×5)
This would be 200 damage if you get the charger scout in the back as well
glad pike
but then you have to account for trigger time (of the scout) and time between shot
also, bullet drop off
soft crater
For a burst cannon?
glad pike
Basically, is it fast enough?
soft crater
And burst cannon does enough damage it can go a bit beyond it's 15m damage range. Especially if you're from behind
soft crater
Basically, is it fast enough?
Hi cal. Can theoretically 2 shot a charger scout.
soft crater
It's fine within it's own right. But it isn't anywhere near where it was with that 30 dmg
glad pike
hel gun can 2 shot. Burst cannon can 2 shot to the back.
And I can't 2 shot a cs with anyof them because shwil iSssue
glad pike
It's fine within it's own right. But it isn't anywhere near where it was with th...
I know. I used to love it
soft crater
Revolver can 3 shot the back
glad pike
but, in what situation, would it be safer and benfical to shoot a cs?
soft crater
Team can't time a double melee hit / No foam / situational on the expedition-alarms
glad pike
yeah
soft crater
Even though High cal can theoretically kill one. It's susceptible to desync fucking up that time frame