gtfo-related-questions

[tranquil arch]

I have never touched the tanks, never been an issue

I guess skill issue?

[mossy aurora]

Yeah only having done it 20 times is the skill issue

😂

[jagged shore]

tbf, also on my first (and only lol) clear that we had to reload after cp quite a bit and never had the wave spawn in tank room and wake it up

[tranquil arch]

Watch any run of that level, nobody goes out of their way to kill the 3 tanks in the side room

[jagged shore]

so i think it's prob less likely than you make it out to be

or possible ig, not prob

[tranquil arch]

It's a fun challenge, feel free to do it

[mossy aurora]

Side spawns aren't common unless you have triggered the penalty waves, but it's possible to get them regardless

[tranquil arch]

Just saying it's strictly not needed

Do you not have people run past the bridge before the last player puts the data usb in?

then the last player can just kite the tank when it spawns midway

[mossy aurora]

No, we kill everything as it comes

[tranquil arch]

right, but the waves only begin again once A), someone leaves the zone or B) the USB goes in or C) 120 seconds pass

so they can get well past the bridge before having to really deal with much

there is a pause after the checkpoint

[mossy aurora]

That's true, but it doesn't invalidate my point at all

[hardy grotto]

Don’t listen to this guy ryk, he broke community guidelines

[past mesa]

side rooms can pull room

the only reason you might not see it is scream cooldown

if you are playing safey killing the tanks is the best

unless you want to have a % chance to have them pull

it is about 10% of the time

[past mesa]

you can still get side spawns even with neither of these

there is a method to not get side spawns but it isnt the way you said

and it forces your clear path

better to just kill the tanks

[craggy pier]

Can bots accidentally shoot u

[cold quarry]

yes

they do it a lot

[tender arch]

I told you….

No trust I swear

[craggy pier]

I thought u shot me

[tender arch]

Swear can’t trust anyone…

[cloud fox]

Whats the deal with r7c2? The first scan. It keeps alternating between infectious fog that rises slowly over the course of the scan and just being regular, non infectious fog that doesnt rise. (Not in the same playthrough)

Is this just an RNG aspect of it or is this a bug?

[neon gust]

Bug

[lavish finch]

Yo how do I find a team in this game?

[vague bridge]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[raven oar]

What do I go for after the r7a1

[tiny tundra]

R7B1 would be next

[ocean spindle]

if its ur first times playin

go to rundown 1

then u can complete all of r1 then r2 then r3 and so on

[jagged shore]

yeah r7a1 is like, tutorial part 2 kinda

[ocean spindle]

yeah but after r7a1 rundown 1 is
the place to go

[jagged shore]

introduces you to a few mechanics you'll have to deal with

ye agreed

[raven oar]

Got it

[icy cave]

def do R1, as otherwise you'll be bored when coming back to it from future rundowns

[shrewd dirge]

i forget, are tongues melee or ranged damage

[jagged shore]

melee

[dry pumice]

Melee, surprisingly enough.

[low willow]

I think questions like this are why the booster effect says projectile resist instead of ranged resist

[dry pumice]

But what is a projectile, truly

Is a 20m tongue that shoots with a speed of a camera flash not one

[ocean spindle]

no

[dry pumice]

alright, i'm nerding it up

"A projectile is any object thrown into space upon which the only acting force is gravity."

Alright. Tongue =/= projectile. That was easy.

[jagged shore]

neither are shooter bullets

[dry pumice]

Isn't having language with clear definitions great.

I mean technically they are, unless you're referring to the weird seeking properties

[jagged shore]

they aren't typically thrown into space are they

[ocean spindle]

the space in the complex

[dry pumice]

i think the "space" they are reffering is empty space, not the SPACE space

"A projectile is an object that is propelled by the application of an external force and then moves freely under the influence of gravity and air resistance. Although any objects in motion through space are projectiles, they are commonly found in warfare and sports (for example, a thrown baseball, kicked football, fired bullet, shot arrow, stone released from catapult)."

[jagged shore]

okay that's a different definition

but then yes i am also considering the seeking properties

[dry pumice]

"Some projectiles provide propulsion during flight by means of a rocket engine or jet engine."

Alright, so heat-seeking missiles are still projectiles.

[jagged shore]

that seems directly contradictory to the prior definition lmao

but i'm more down with this definition anyway

[dry pumice]

The prior one was the "simplified" one given by google and the other is a wiki one.

Can find a 3rd sause if you want

[jagged shore]

nah is fine

[low willow]

the way i see it, projectile is anything that is fired/launched/etc

the tounge could be a projectile if the foe tore it off and threw it at you

[jagged shore]

so a person who gets fired from their job is a projectile? :p

[low willow]

but they don't, so it's not

[dry pumice]

I mean... If the are thrown from a window...

[low willow]

they can be

[jagged shore]

touché

[craggy pier]

Did they change the rundowns?

[minor fractal]

They're adding them back, yeah.

[craggy pier]

Why'd they take them out? Haven't been around the game recently

[minor fractal]

That was the system, they'd bring a new campaign and take out the old campaign.

It was to save on maintenance mostly.

New content can break old content inadvertently.

[craggy pier]

How many campaigns have they taken out? Don't really want to miss out on the levels

[cold quarry]

Took out rundowns 1 to 6

and currently 1 2 and 3 are back

4 probably coming in a few months

[vague bridge]

a few months

[topaz anvil]

many* years*

[fringe tulip]

hoi hoi is there a channel to talk about the bots in the game got some questions about them!^^

[midnight gazelle]

Lol this is the channel

[fringe tulip]

hurray!

when i play stealthily is there a way to get the boots to synchronize there hits with me?

[neon gust]

no

[midnight gazelle]

No

[fringe tulip]

noice

[neon gust]

get close to giant , wait for bots to get closer, start hammering

they will join you

[fringe tulip]

the thing i swear i remember seeing one of the bots taking out a sleeper i was killing one of them then one behind me almost woke up then for some reason the bot took it out and no alarms went off?

[midnight gazelle]

Sleepers dont immediately wake up rooms

Plus the bots try to recover stealth when possible

[neon gust]

you kill a sleeper, another one woke up, so the bot when immediately to try to save the room

[fringe tulip]

oml such a smort bot!

[neon gust]

their nice but their gonna be hella stupid the more deeper you go into the game

[fringe tulip]

also for some reason one of the bots picked up a lock melter and i reached a door with a lock on it (non hackable) and no matter what i did it wouldn't melt the lock 😅

[neon gust]

some doors are bugged

[fringe tulip]

by then ill be looking for groups as for now i dont want to become a burden if i go looking for groups

[neon gust]

so sometimes even tho they have lockmelters they wont go to melt the locks

[neon gust]

90% of the community its friendly towards new players

its all about the attituded

[past mesa]

Hello I be here (not friendly)

[neon gust]

Dont join a match with either Jish or BLACK_DRAGON, worst mistake of your life

[past mesa]

Thank you mr dragon

[neon gust]

You should give lfg a try anyways so you'll get accustomed

try the #lfg-beginners

[neon gust]

You know how it is

[fringe tulip]

i nearly did R1A1 on meh own but got stuck fukin finding hsu as there was no clue on what the actual thing looked like nor did the pings from the terminal stay on after i left the terminal

it kept saying it was in zone_52_e

yet i thought hsu will be in one of those lockers

but nupe

[neon gust]

Use terminals, they save a lot of time and hsu's are the weird oval tomb

[fringe tulip]

and when did i find it i got fucked because everything was alerty and my entire team dident have no ammo lol

[fringe tulip]

i did and i knew where to look its just its really hard to notice that object was part of the game and not just part of area

also what enemies can i kill stealthy?

[neon gust]

Pretty much everything but 1 miniboss

[fringe tulip]

i know there is something called a giant and i think i seen one but im not sure

ill see if i can find an image

[midnight gazelle]

Depends on if you mean solo or with a team

[neon gust]

^ important

[midnight gazelle]

As a solo, the smaller enemies. As a team, all enemies except the bosses

[fringe tulip]

solo since meh team is bots lol

[midnight gazelle]

I consider ||snatchers|| as “bosses” too

[neon gust]

if snatcher its a boss

then shocker its one too

sorry that was very cringe

we call them alligators

[midnight gazelle]

Then sleepers, chargers, and scouts

[fringe tulip]

spicy hahah

[past mesa]

You can stealth kill anything if you get lucky enough

[midnight gazelle]

You cant stealth kill a tank or mother lmao

[neon gust]

you can mom

that why i said 1 miniboss

[past mesa]

You can stealth mom

[neon gust]

^

[midnight gazelle]

How

[neon gust]

hammer

[midnight gazelle]

_>

[past mesa]

Hammer stagger op baby

[midnight gazelle]

What?

[neon gust]

yeah

[past mesa]

500 stagger dmg on a full charge

1000 to stagger

You just two and two her

[neon gust]

but watchout

spear light attack got a 2 damage stagger

watchout boyz

[past mesa]

Spear makes sense mathematically

Trust

[neon gust]

heavy attack stagger on spear 1
light attack 2
checkmates GTFO players

[past mesa]

I think with melee booster stealth tank and stealth p mom is possible

[neon gust]

it only takes one punch from tank

but i can see that happening

he got big charger stagger too, he just kinda flies

[fringe tulip]

Ah man I can't send an image here

[neon gust]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat

[past mesa]

Tank stagger is just short man

If it was just a half second longer

It would be so easy

[fringe tulip]

holy fuck there is that many enemy types in the game???????????

[past mesa]

Shhhh

Don’t look

Midnight

[upper ginkgo]

spoilers 😭

[past mesa]

Play the game

Find them

[fringe tulip]

oofie im sorry

[fringe tulip]

and get fucked by them 😌

[past mesa]

Yes hot sleeper fucking

[upper ginkgo]

play the game blind before you start getting carried through 4 rundowns

the first 5 hours are precious, savor them before the magic goes away

[fringe tulip]

oh oh if a sleeper wakes up and alerts others is the entire zone im in compromised or only the room am in?

[fringe tulip]

nuuuuuuuuuuu dont say that!

[past mesa]

They are

The game isn’t horror once you get father down it’s rabbit hole

[fringe tulip]

a spooky rabbit hole

[fringe tulip]

meh question please!

[upper ginkgo]

must complete scream animation, and then room aggros

[fringe tulip]

ah so just the room not the entire zone so like if it aggros in zone_52_e

[past mesa]

Yeah

[fringe tulip]

only that area is compromised not the entire zone_52

[past mesa]

yes

[fringe tulip]

okie dokie

[upper ginkgo]

mr rayalot has a very cool stealth guide on reddit, but I don't recommend reading it if you want to learn the game by yourself first

[fringe tulip]

if its for beginner then ill see it but if its advanced stuff then ill runaway from it lol

[upper ginkgo]

game difficulty and "immersion" is basically tied to your knowledge of game mechanics

[past mesa]

Yeah don’t look anything up unless you need it

[fringe tulip]

bet bet

oh oh question

can i clip a door with my sentry i saw it being done in one of marks vidoes like 3 years ago 💀

like i put the sentry right up the door and it would shoot on the other side without alerting them

[winged turtle]

bhahah i haven't hear of that one, prolly got patched out

[fringe tulip]

lemee see if i can get the clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWRwOaOAmis&list=PL3tRBEVW0hiCLJHISDKnlPJ7Jr6fPmiHs&index=2

minute 27:00

[past mesa]

No it is in the game on labs still I think

most maps it is fine on tho

[fringe tulip]

glory to cheesing!

[low willow]

sometimes doors seem to be bugged and sentries will just shoot through them

it's pretty rare though

at least in my experience it is

[past mesa]

Labs

The complex set be fucked idk

[low willow]

It happened pretty consistently for me on R1B2 and I don't remember what tileset that is but wasn't lab not in R1?

[past mesa]

Nope not labs

But it happens pretty much every time on r3d1

[low willow]

Yeah I had it happen there too

Couldn't remember what the other level that I remembered it on was, that was it I think

[past mesa]

I think some of the older tile sets doors are fucked up

[low willow]

Unless I'm thinking of a third level

[past mesa]

Idk tho

[low willow]

It's always pretty funny to see a wave get deleted by sentries that shouldn't even be able to see it

[low willow]

I'd believe this, seems to only affect certain tiles but then again I haven't tested anything so I have no clue what it does or doesn't affect

[tardy ingot]

i think it was smth like 1000.1 no?

since you needed 2 hits and a tap?

[past mesa]

Then just have one tap

Doesn’t matter tbh you hit one after one after one

[weak root]

can the hel gun one tap strikers with enough special damage boosters?

[past mesa]

It can one tap strikers if you hit the head

It does 16.1 so it doesn’t need much

[weak root]

yeah, but in the body, cause my aim is unreliable as fuck

only hit like 30% of my headshots

[past mesa]

16.1x = 20

Solve for x

[weak root]

i calculated it would need around 24%

[past mesa]

Then that be it

[weak root]

at least*

alright

[tacit zealot]

can a giant striker be killed by
1 hammer to back of head
1 hammer to back
1 hammer to front
?

[weary mesa]

An unboosted hammer? None of these

[tacit zealot]

i mean like

in order

so 3 hamemrs

[latent obsidian]

Is this one of those cases where you are short by like .00000001 damage?

[vague bridge]

i would aim for the limbs

[tacit zealot]

no because i killed a giant solo with 3 hits

and the last one was from the front

am confused

[dry pumice]

Isn't it at least like 4 hits

[latent obsidian]

I mean in that order its 60 + 40 + 20

[tacit zealot]

how much hp does giant have

[latent obsidian]

So it adds up, but then theres rounding stuff right

120

[tacit zealot]

huh

[latent obsidian]

idk if you did it maybe the rounding stuff isn't a thing and you got the perfect back multi both times

Or you got a slight flank bonus on your front hit

[fringe tulip]

Fam for the people living in the middle East how do you manage the discord calls?

[craggy pier]

I've seen people do very weird stuff with giants and occiput multiplier

I've been told that the only non-boosters or syringes way involve something like the back of the head still being able to be hit after a fullcharge if you're client

Or something along those lines

[latent obsidian]

I've heard of the double occi hit

But you know what I mean right, with the sniper having 40.02 damage or something

[craggy pier]

Yes yes I know

[latent obsidian]

So does that apply to hammer which has a flat 20 (presumably)?

Well the easier check is does it front body shot a striker

[craggy pier]

I've never properly understood if back multiplier, since it's based on the direction enemy and player are facing, how much does it scale, if it's linear or not

[latent obsidian]

back multi varies the more behind the enemy you are positioned

[craggy pier]

So when stuff like that happens I chalk it up to said multiplier being fucky because lag or whatever

[latent obsidian]

scales from 1 to 2 times, and you can even get some bonus while being a little bit in front but to the side of an enemy

[craggy pier]

I know that

I never got an answer over if said increase is linear or has thresholds

[minor fractal]

Melee weapons do not have rounding issues.

For unclear reasons.

[tacit zealot]

Rayalot

Pls answer my question above

D:

[minor fractal]

Ellda already did, tho

[tacit zealot]

Cool cool

Tyty

[latent obsidian]

I am not a verified source 🫠

I need D4 to fact check me

[minor fractal]

🙃

[tacit zealot]

Rayalot knows for sure

All stats memorised

[minor fractal]

Linearly from 112.5 degrees to 22.5 degrees (where it maxes out).

So the cone is very tight.

[craggy pier]

Thanks

[latent obsidian]

bro aint kidding when he says Ray has the stats memorised

[icy cave]

Ray IS the wiki

[latent obsidian]

Ray is a mentat

[tardy ingot]

ive said this before
Please dont call me that

[latent obsidian]

Okay chief, didn't realise it was a serious issue

apologies

[tardy ingot]

people who mock/annoy me use it

Then people pick it up cuz „funny“

[glad pike]

how is D4 even relatively funny?

[latent obsidian]

alright my bad, wasn't trying to actually get on your nerves

[glad pike]

also, eva sounds way better

[tardy ingot]

nah dw
im just trying to tell people cuz it pops up again and again

[neon gust]

ill do 10 times worst, kidnap you and make use bullpup and pr

Join me

gonna get you dragon pilled

[hardy grotto]

I’m gonna make him use the spear smg arbalist

[arctic marten]

dollar dragon

[neon gust]

have a deal with wallgreens

[tardy ingot]

The worst thing you can do to me is sawed off shotgun

frick that gun

[neon gust]

those are fighting words

[arctic marten]

(its the giant killing main)

[tardy ingot]

bullpup at least feels fun

[arctic marten]

it does not

bullpup feels like how a wet fart sounds

[dry pumice]

How is the most precise assault Rifle in the game not fun

[tardy ingot]

Mom i want hel shotgun!
We have hel shotgun at home

Hel shotgun at home - sawed off shotgun

[dry pumice]

20m full auto flawless goes brrrrt

[neon gust]

I aint gonna lie if they wanna buff saw off to 30.8 damage and redyce spread im down

[tardy ingot]

give it 50 dmg per hit

[tardy ingot]

[dry pumice]

Oh no, dragon turned into cheese

[arctic marten]

dragon is pizza tower pilled

[hardy grotto]

Feels great until you have to reload

[neon gust]

pizza tower its my favorite game now

[neon gust]

hold A and B

[tardy ingot]

hey thats means its fun for 10% of its uptime beth

[hardy grotto]

rlly gotta savour that moment

[arctic marten]

bullpup is buffed in cyberheist

[neon gust]

how about you uptime some bitches

[tardy ingot]

AND you can make a sandwich during every reload

[dry pumice]

I'm serious though: they just need to give it 60 round mag and it'll be fine

Makes it reminiscent of some other weapon I can't think of

[arctic marten]

that will not fix it

[neon gust]

literally

[dry pumice]

It will for me. I'm no stranger to long reload if they are justified.

[neon gust]

2.4 > 2.0

there

[dry pumice]

40 rounds at that fire rate and that damage per bullet is not justified.

[arctic marten]

1 mag per refill 🤢

[neon gust]

i fix the skill issue people have

[tardy ingot]

give it a reload cancel like pdw

easy fix

[dry pumice]

Nough

[neon gust]

nah lemme do like in reddit a give it AR damage and a faster reload

totally not gonna overshadow the AR

[dry pumice]

Exactly

[neon gust]

nah

heavy revo

[arctic marten]

"heavy sniper"

[tardy ingot]

i was thinking of giving the veruta a bit more ammo and 2 pen

but to balance it we slow down slightly when shooting

[dry pumice]

Just remove spin up

[neon gust]

Thank god you tought of that

[dry pumice]

Instant best gun

[tardy ingot]

pff

[neon gust]

wait

arbalist damage its 3.91?

[arctic marten]

yes

[neon gust]

wasnt it 4.1?

[arctic marten]

not since it was brought back

I don't remember the og number

[neon gust]

I vaguely remember it was 4.1

maybe that that was the other machinegun

[minor fractal]

OG number was 5.

[neon gust]

from r1

yeah

[tardy ingot]

[neon gust]

old people memory

[arctic marten]

boomer rundown

[neon gust]

damn

needs more ammo tho

[tardy ingot]

btw
Whats more likely

Another carbine buff or a precision rifle nerf?

[ocean spindle]

both at the same time and oppositely proportioned

[minor fractal]

[neon gust]

most likely nothing gonna happend

unchange

level designer too busy

[arctic marten]

neither

they are making cyberheist

[raven oar]

Which rundowns are checkpoints not enabled in

[ocean spindle]

1 2 3 4 and 5 but it's not that they aren't enabled
they just don't have em

[icy cave]

1 to 5

[turbid horizon]

also there are quite a few checkpoints in rundown 7 that are very risky to use/just never work

looking at you C1/C2

and D1 but we all know ab D1

[icy cave]

It's just better to not use em at this point

[turbid horizon]

honestly

[raven oar]

Was there checkpoints in every level at one point

[turbid horizon]

nope

[icy cave]

No

[turbid horizon]

only R6 and R7 had CP

[winged turtle]

introduce in R6

[icy cave]

They were introduced as an afterthought in R6

that's why they still broken af and it's not worth it

[raven oar]

Have the devs responded to the community or have they resorted to not fixing the problem

I mean

[turbid horizon]

yeah the first CP in R7C1 breaks 99% of the time without fail

[raven oar]

That’s painfully clear but

[ocean spindle]

the devs know but they say checkpoints r super hard to fix

[icy cave]

They havent been able to fix them since december 2021!!!!

[ocean spindle]

and makes sense

it's better if they were not
there

[raven oar]

Yup

[ocean spindle]

so don't use em

[raven oar]

Was kind of disappointed when I heard about checkpoints

[raven oar]

Still devalues achievements

[ocean spindle]

whatcha mean

[icy cave]

Don't worry you have 5 rundowns to go before you hit them

[winged turtle]

eh, if you are comparing yourself to other people, and not to your past self, sure

[icy cave]

you can still do the levels in R6 and R7 without checkpoint it's not that hard

[raven oar]

Think about it this way: Harvard is only open to the elite students, but anyone could also get in for 1,000 bucks

[turbid horizon]

honestly there are like 2 CP's that I would really recommend using, the one on R7D2 (nice to practice pushing out) and the one on R7C3

and even then

they're liable to break

[icy cave]

Exactly why I hate em

[ocean spindle]

well those that entered that way will die on r2e1 r4e1 r5e1 among others and then learn the hard way

[turbid horizon]

I hate em for brute forcing

[raven oar]

Yeah

[turbid horizon]

I like em for actual practice/planning

R6D3 had a good one

[raven oar]

If they limited it to one per game

[turbid horizon]

for learning how reactors work

[raven oar]

That would have been more well received

[turbid horizon]

you mean one use or one CP per level?

[icy cave]

Just relax and take your time on R1 to 5 and you won't be using them in R6 and 7 as those two rundowns are easier anyways

[turbid horizon]

this

R7E1 doesn't even have CP

[icy cave]

And I am grateful for it

imagine an E level with CP 😭

[turbid horizon]

I still hope R7 gets a bugfix pass at somepoint

scratch that I hope the whole game gets a bugfix pass

[icy cave]

We'll see. next update will be with Alt R4 sooooooooooooooooooo

[turbid horizon]

:3

[latent obsidian]

I wouldn't expect any QoL until after they release R8 if at all

[turbid horizon]

oh boy we getting to my 3 fave rundowns

[icy cave]

And for now They broke something with every alt introduction on R7 😂

[turbid horizon]

456

[latent obsidian]

R4E1 lesgo

[turbid horizon]

RIP bots heavy carry in combat

[icy cave]

🥳

[turbid horizon]

their one good use

[winged turtle]

the one enemy getting stuck per wave

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[icy cave]

R7C2 suddenly having shadows

[turbid horizon]

well that got fixed thankfully

[latent obsidian]

god yeah that seems to be happening so much atm

[winged turtle]

altR1 represent

[turbid horizon]

and R7B1 getting a billion flyers and then no flyers

[icy cave]

With Alt R3, Pablo would not go away on R7E1 😅😅

[turbid horizon]

and u could kill him

[winged turtle]

it's fine, unless it's a tank in R7E1

[icy cave]

Ah yeah. like bruh

[lusty bramble]

I am addicted to r7e1 CP

[icy cave]

beep beep

[arctic marten]

anyone know if there is CP in r3?

[lusty bramble]

anyone have a CP tier list?

[hardy grotto]

i think there might be in r3d1

[lusty bramble]

DEVS PLEASE ADD MORE CP 🤤

[worthy siren]

out of context

[winged turtle]

[turbid horizon]

comfused

[sturdy glen]

Where's Peter Griffin when you need him

[winged turtle]

sorry kid, the truth is, language was rigged from the start

well, i am glad the server blocked it, but also

[raven oar]

Yeah

[turbid horizon]

ah

I c now

Well then

[raven oar]

So it’s actually punishing if you waste it

But if you take the time to actually survey the level

[turbid horizon]

I never in my wildest dreams made that connection

[raven oar]

You have a chance to undo your mistakes

But only once

[turbid horizon]

Why is that even what y’all thought of

[raven oar]

Idk

Better play is to remove it completely though

[turbid horizon]

Never seen that abbreviation in my life

[winged turtle]

because we live in a society

[raven oar]

Game is niche and making the game easier doesn’t help that

I’ve seen this exact problem with dead cells

[icy cave]

watch out you'll be joining the gatekeeping gang soon 👀😅

[raven oar]

Oh no! 😭

[winged turtle]

it was a gamble, to make it less niche, and to make it sell more for it's 1.0 release

[raven oar]

Didn’t work though

Pissed off veteran player base but satisfied fathers of 10 children because they only have an hour a week to spend on video games

🤪💅

[icy cave]

No cause now there are voices calling for permanent saves 💀

[latent obsidian]

back in my day people would get kicked from the server for having bad ammo balance 😤

[icy cave]

How it should be

[winged turtle]

yike

[turbid horizon]

Ok as much as CHECKPOINTS (I’ll spell it out for you people) are controversial, yeah saves are dumb 100%

[tardy ingot]

the people that joined for checkpoints often didnt stay :I

[icy cave]

You know my opinion

[tardy ingot]

also yea
the same people cry for save states

and heck, checkpoints enabled 10 hour clears of freaking 45 min levels

[icy cave]

But I am a filthy gatekeeper

[latent obsidian]

idc if they want to have checkpoints in the game but at least don't have them break everything

[icy cave]

👆

[winged turtle]

gambles sure do have risks

[latent obsidian]

Although it does make the LFG experience kinda lame if people want to bang their head on it for hours and oblige you to stay

[icy cave]

Bruh I leave

[latent obsidian]

I mean yeah

[winged turtle]

you lfg? lol

[raven oar]

Lmao

[icy cave]

🧐

Not as much nowadays, I agree

But I mean: When R4 😭?

[icy cave]

slippery slope it is

[raven oar]

And I’ve also learned about the little “solution” to kiting

💀

[winged turtle]

hmm how ling was it between R5 and 6?

[winged turtle]

ammunition?

[raven oar]

Stamina cap

Or something like that

Gutted movement in general

[latent obsidian]

don't run around for too long or your health bar will turn yellow

[raven oar]

Yeah

[winged turtle]

ohhh right, the devs solution to stamina

[past mesa]

Movement isn’t gutted

[sturdy glen]

It just killed circle kiting

[past mesa]

It is more complicated now

[tacit zealot]

It killed the most Brain dead kiting

[winged turtle]

it does also slow down the beautiful festival of a bonk-storm

[hardy grotto]

How am I gonna beat alt r4e1 now 😔

[tacit zealot]

Maybe because they don’t want whatever is a “bonkstorm” in a stealth -horror-shooter game

But then again knife

[past mesa]

You know personally guys I think if you wipe on any level you should have to reset the entire game. These checkpoints between levels are bullshit

[tacit zealot]

I have beat R6 and R7 without any checkpoints 🚫… have you?

[hardy grotto]

LMFAOOOO

[winged turtle]

it saves your progress between levels?

[hardy grotto]

gets me every fucking time man

[raven oar]

Doesn’t sound bad honestly

[tacit zealot]

And he brings it up everytime

[hardy grotto]

Man should try something actually challenging

[raven oar]

Just gotta make the game even easier (more checkpoints in each level for the struggling family in Czechoslovakia who is running the game on their 2010 Microsoft laptop)

[winged turtle]

If you don't no-hit-run entire rundowns, what game are you even playing?

[past mesa]

Like beating alt r2e1 without checkpoints

[raven oar]

(They need time to make money and game)

[tacit zealot]

r7e1 Dimension skip without cheese

[hardy grotto]

so true jish

[tacit zealot]

[past mesa]

Impossible challenge

[hardy grotto]

people just can’t stop cheesing 😔

[winged turtle]

If they really wanted to gut movement, they would remove the jump

[past mesa]

Ngl bath it doesn’t help people

[tacit zealot]

Trying to speedrun a level without knowing where everything is and saying it’s the same as a regular run (difficulty INSANE)

[past mesa]

LOL

[hardy grotto]

No advantage btw

[past mesa]

I really tried team

[tacit zealot]

(half the speedrun is looking at reactor cause I know all the codes)

Looking at you jish

[winged turtle]

[past mesa]

Hey that e1 was so cool

[tacit zealot]

Fun run going through the stealth zones

[past mesa]

It is so stupid

[tacit zealot]

But is it really ironic that the rest of the vod is just bruh

[past mesa]

But so cool

[tacit zealot]

Waiting for r8

[upper ginkgo]

r8 doesnt exist

stop deluding yourself

[tacit zealot]

I’ve seen data mined

So cool

[past mesa]

Oh are they adding data

[tacit zealot]

B4 has a data centre tile with a t scan

[mossy aurora]

I hope they remove soft collision and add hard collision so you can't run past enemies 😔

[tacit zealot]

My collision is only hard around you RyK 😔

[past mesa]

Striker riding would be such cool tech

[mossy aurora]

[tacit zealot]

[past mesa]

Honestly they should add hard collision on snatchers

Like I want to jump on those guys are just go

[hardy grotto]

They should make

[tacit zealot]

Why do snatchers still have armour on the heads

[hardy grotto]

They should make sprint 3000% faster

[tacit zealot]

What kind of animal has a armored head where it’s body isn’t as

[past mesa]

So kiting is possible

[tacit zealot]

Like

[hardy grotto]

And and add a flamethrower and a Grenade launcher and an rpg

[winged turtle]

give em little saddles too

[tacit zealot]

Wemod moment

[hardy grotto]

Truee

[weak root]

just tactically place mines below your feet

[tacit zealot]

My teammates already do

[past mesa]

Try not to burst cannon each other

Impossible challenge

[tacit zealot]

“Sorry, I thought you were a striker”

😆

[past mesa]

“You walked in front of me”

I was behind you

[tacit zealot]

“I walked through you, mb”

[past mesa]

Do you think r8 will have checkpoints Eugene

[tacit zealot]

Yeah probably every level except E

That seems their format

[weak root]

will r8 have 1 or 3 A levels

[tacit zealot]

Best is trap a teammate in a room, mine it, then say “Oops sorry I closed the door on you”, then shoot the mine when they open the door

I can’t say too much

[past mesa]

Yeah makes sense

[minor fractal]

1 A level with Overload 😎

[tacit zealot]

Datamined channel on modding server has cool stuff

Go check it out yo

[past mesa]

Oh shit yeah I will

[weak root]

woah fr good idea

[minor fractal]

R8A1 bouta put R5A1 to shame .

[past mesa]

I wish they go crazy on r8

Just fuck room density

[minor fractal]

"DistributionValue": 125.0

[tacit zealot]

Resource room r3c1

[hardy grotto]

that resource room is so fucked up man

[past mesa]

I didn’t go to it

On my one play through

[minor fractal]

It's not even that bad, it's just multiplayer fucks it.

[tacit zealot]

If you permafoam the class v you should have a door left over to use to mine the resource room

It’s pretty chill

[minor fractal]

There's only ever like 1-2 groups that are safe to go for at a time.

[sturdy glen]

My group used the 2 doors through the class 5 scandoor

That resource room Is awesome

Gave us a good laugh

[tacit zealot]

He he he ha

[winged turtle]

the two zones after the class alarm are pretty chill, even if you are low you can still clear it without a sweat

[tacit zealot]

Idk

[icy cave]

It's not that bad actually. you can actually shoot yourself out of pretty much any situation

[tacit zealot]

The chargers fuck

[winged turtle]

no British Broadcasting Companies though

[icy cave]

Kiting was kind off a cheese "light"

[tacit zealot]

Wtf is a cheese light

Worst expression

[winged turtle]

diet cheese?

[tacit zealot]

🧀

[winged turtle]

non-dairy cheese?

[tacit zealot]

🕯️

Cheese light

Bomba

[winged turtle]

hmmm we can work shop this

[icy cave]

he gets it !

[tacit zealot]

I don’t

[past mesa]

Kiting isn’t cheese though at most it is an exploit

[winged turtle]

vegan cheese?

[hardy grotto]

I mean it depends right

[minor fractal]

Kiting was a balance issue.

[tacit zealot]

I mean what’s the difference between dodging and kiting

[weak root]

havent experienced it yet, will have to play that rundown with my friends

[minor fractal]

Same as if they made HEL Revo into a main slot HEL Gun.

Not technically cheese to use it, just wildly unbalanced.

[hardy grotto]

if I’m constantly just long kiting enemies that’s some nice cheese

[tacit zealot]

Hel revo reload cancel still so ungodly broken

[winged turtle]

the number of enemies i would guess

and how long you do it

[hardy grotto]

but if I’m literally just dodging or even kiting back a bit just to get to a better spot to hold them that’s a diff story imo

[tacit zealot]

Mfw not allowed to gain distance from enemies

Has to be called cheese

[winged turtle]

I haven't heard of anyone who can "dodge" an entire wave for 10 minutes

[hardy grotto]

right

I guess I have to stand still and kill these 20 sleepers by myself

[tacit zealot]

My r2e1 pubs have given me a bit of practice

[past mesa]

True

True

[minor fractal]

I mean, that's literally what circle kiting is.

[past mesa]

They fuck up the perma foam and I need to kite

[winged turtle]

My point

[tacit zealot]

Bro even the first alarm

[sturdy glen]

True

[minor fractal]

You're doing dodging enemies, and hitting them, repeatedly for long periods.

[sturdy glen]

Second alarm brings me pain

[past mesa]

Second alarm is very fun to long kite

[hardy grotto]

R2e1 second alarm is why I run sniper in pubs now

[tacit zealot]

Had to today

And I died to team kill

[past mesa]

I asked them team

[tacit zealot]

Sniper is op

[past mesa]

Who is our hybrid solution and they told me

[tacit zealot]

Why would run anything else

[past mesa]

Everyone is

[sturdy glen]

I gotta stagger the waves so I can't run sniper

Just gotta pray

[past mesa]

Just run pr

[sturdy glen]

Trueeee

[past mesa]

It is stagger and big killer

Perfect gun

[sturdy glen]

Chad loadout

[hardy grotto]

I can stagger some of the wave and snipe hybrids

[tacit zealot]

I take bio so staggering isn’t my job

[hardy grotto]

Can usually get through the scan unless it goes into wave in which case

Gl team

[sturdy glen]

Like 2 thirds of the time I had to stagger all of it

[past mesa]

Guys here me out. Stagger sleepers isn’t great when you could just kill them.

Tbh

[hardy grotto]

this is why machine pistol is just better than auto pistol

[past mesa]

Yup

[hardy grotto]

How I miss that gun 😔

[sturdy glen]

I want to try auto ngl

[past mesa]

It is kinda underwhelming in duos

Levi told me

[winged turtle]

exactly, until they bring back surge alarms in R2 in december, killing is just better stagger

[sturdy glen]

I don't like machinepistol so I doubt I'd use it but

[hardy grotto]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[sturdy glen]

It seems funny

[hardy grotto]

auto pistol is so goated

[icy cave]

?

[past mesa]

Killing sleepers is still just better

Like it puts them into respawn which is normally a longer period before they will threaten you unlike stagger

Like killing in surge alarms is just better stagger

[sturdy glen]

I would agree if either was getting done period lol

[minor fractal]

Usually if you want CC, you want either a mix of CC and damage or significantly more CC than usual to outperform damage.

Also good if CC is being used as a last resort.

[past mesa]

They only time cc matters is on non surge waves when you are trying to avoid punishment spawns

Honestly

Otherwise pure cc is just worse than dmg

[sturdy glen]

I ran combat shotty to kill trickles coming in then swap to hel shotty when more come at once

[past mesa]

Cause dmg also cc’s

[soft crater]

[hardy grotto]

Idk, on surge alarms I feel like even then I’m not necessarily focusing on killing enemies

But that’s because like

Take r2e1

[past mesa]

Yeah taking

[hardy grotto]

First alarm has a really nice tile so I can

just sorta stagger enemies then move away and bait sleepers places then go to scan

[sturdy glen]

Avoid taking damage and run off scan immediately when done

[past mesa]

First alarm in r2e1 I think breaks the rule cause it is one room spawn distance

[hardy grotto]

I think a lot of the alarms kinda break that rule in r2e1

Only one where I’m actively shooting to clear is the final one, tbh

[past mesa]

The 2nd and third you just kill

[sturdy glen]

First alarm never felt as bad to me as most ppl said

[hardy grotto]

2nd I guess as well?

[past mesa]

Yeah that is fair

[hardy grotto]

and 3rd actually but like

It’s very tile dependent I think

[sturdy glen]

You know what's fun

[past mesa]

It probably is

[hardy grotto]

like I shoot to clear when there’s a lot of enemies on me or I see a lot coming

[sturdy glen]

R2e1 second scan with bots who only do enough to stagger hybrids so at the end you have ONLY the 5 hybrids to kill

[hardy grotto]

but the funny thing abt hel shotgun at least on r2e1 is that it has rlly good holding potential

[past mesa]

It feels like you are trying to do the solo player thing and stop sleepers from accumulating

[hardy grotto]

It’s the one time I’ll actually say that gun is putting in a lot of work

[past mesa]

Hel shotty is pretty good for dealing with high accumulation

[sturdy glen]

Kinda agree yea

[tacit zealot]

I mean there isn’t a room two areas away?

[sturdy glen]

It's good for a main but

[past mesa]

the first alarm

[sturdy glen]

It's still a main

[tacit zealot]

If there isn’t a room 2 areas away ofc it’s gonna spawn 1 area away

[past mesa]

You have two rooms one distance away

Yeah that is what I meant

[tacit zealot]

Kk I thought. Talking about something else LOL

[hardy grotto]

hel revo is my favourite and I’ll never stop simping for it but there’s only so much I can do with that

[tacit zealot]

o7

Hel rev is love

[past mesa]

Yeah I get it just functionally makes it a one room distance alarm

[tacit zealot]

There’s only 1 alarm that’s coded as 1 room away

R7b1

[hardy grotto]

I mean kinda? I put a lot of time into duos where you have a lot less firepower so it’s kinda warped how I view the game I imagine

[tacit zealot]

That I know of

[hardy grotto]

But also I’ve seen full groups struggle to hold alarms so I’m like pretty wary of pubs especially LMAO

[past mesa]

Honestly true but I see where you be coming from

[sturdy glen]

Yeaaaa

I like being able to trust I can deal with it myself

[past mesa]

I just think players don’t want to kill during surges enough

[sturdy glen]

Just in case

[past mesa]

Like I keep getting pubs telling me they want to stagger

[tacit zealot]

The enemies are just going to respawn 😭

[past mesa]

Yup

Mb sorry team

[tacit zealot]

But it’s not like ammo is a problem

[hardy grotto]

I mean there’s also something to be said about not killing to save ammo but

If there’s like

10 enemies coming ur way

You should probably

Maybe kill then

[sturdy glen]

It is if the pub shoots up the invisible zones

[tacit zealot]

Wouldn’t that be the ONLY reason to stagger , to save ammo?

[past mesa]

Honestly the only time killing sleepers not be the best play

[mossy aurora]

No gun is better than hel shotgun at last surge r2e1 bottom door funnel

[past mesa]

It to avoid wave spawns that are worse

Like if you are at cap and a tank will spawn staggering sleepers is huge

[tacit zealot]

Huh

I don’t think I get into that situation in vanilla?

[past mesa]

Or avoiding punishment waves

Nope

Not really

[tacit zealot]

Yeah

[hardy grotto]

r4e1 maybe

[tacit zealot]

I play like 0 modded lol

[sturdy glen]

I keep the mindset of do whatever is necessary to avoid taking damage

[hardy grotto]

That’d be the only one

[tacit zealot]

Didn’t beat that

[sturdy glen]

Unless it's last scan sometimes

[hardy grotto]

I’ll carry u through it one day

[tacit zealot]

Need to carry my Alien first

[past mesa]

Ofc thank you

[tacit zealot]

[past mesa]

Idk we are gonna have this discussion again

[tacit zealot]

Still haven’t beat r7e1 with alien in pubs yet

[past mesa]

When someone tells me that auto sentry is good in surges

[tacit zealot]

Rip that tool

Never understood

[hardy grotto]

I don’t think I’d ever really take auto sentry

not anymore anyways

[past mesa]

Yeah it is not good rn

[hardy grotto]

I think I actually used it a bit in r5

R5c3 it was kinda nice

[verbal zinc]

lf2m control mode

[past mesa]

Hello

[tacit zealot]

Get ready SOLDIERS

[verbal zinc]

hi

[past mesa]

I will be one of your two more

!!

[hardy grotto]

Hi fireblade

Wanna duo with me

[verbal zinc]

apex?

[hardy grotto]

Don’t tell beep tho

Hmm

[mossy aurora]

Hi fireblade

[verbal zinc]

beebo the cell

[verbal zinc]

[mossy aurora]

🫡

[hardy grotto]

Y’all suck

[tacit zealot]

I suck pp

[verbal zinc]

any of you wanna play?

i need to get used to my new mousepad

[past mesa]

apex? i dont have installed

unfo

[verbal zinc]

G T F

[tacit zealot]

I sleep it is 5 am 😵‍💫

[past mesa]

goodnight eugene

[tacit zealot]

Eugene sleeping

[hardy grotto]

what would we do in my favourite game GTFO the game

[mossy aurora]

r2e1 glitchless????

[past mesa]

funny funny edited content ?

[tacit zealot]

Constantly team kill

[rich kiln]

GTFO reminds me of a dead game called unfortunate space men

[ocean spindle]

among us?

[rich kiln]

No

It’s literally called unfortunate space men

It’s the mix of dead by daylight and among us together

[ocean spindle]

thiink i saw it a ton ago

[icy cave]

Not really m8. Unfortunate space men seems to be heavily on the Amongus side of things. (even tho it released first)

[devout nimbus]

Is bio tracker xray every coming as a feature, since supposedly it didn't work in past rundown and now it does making me think they are tryna do something with that

[winged turtle]

i mean, never say never.

but never

[devout nimbus]

It would be cool as part of like a progression system they'll never add

[winged turtle]

big fan of no progression system besides drip and the next level, honestly.

[ocean spindle]

'progression system they'll never add'-- good

good

keep it that way

[dry pumice]

eh... unlocking couple of new sights for guns as options would be cute

decked out tactical vanilla pistol

the funny thing is that they do have modular system in place as many guns are just modified versions of another

but for some reason they reserved it for themselves to make random baked guns every so often

[noble dew]

How do you enable bots in your lobby? I dont see the option

[dry pumice]

there are little red buttons under player slots

it probably says something like "players only" by default

[noble dew]

Nothing happens when I click it tho

[dry pumice]

click that, pick "bots" or "players and bots"

[noble dew]

It just beeps and nothing pops up

[dry pumice]

if it doesn't work - that's not right and you might want to restart the game

[winged turtle]

only host can adjust the slots fwiw

[noble dew]

Its like that every time i launch it

[ocean spindle]

yeah if u join a lobby for the first time, they should just b there automatically

[noble dew]

Weird

[ocean spindle]

well if u make a lobby

sorry

not if u join if u make

[noble dew]

OH

Ok I got it

Had to host the game and then matchmake

[ocean spindle]

... matchmake?

[winged turtle]

AH

here's the thing, you never want to touch that mm button

[ocean spindle]

yeah dont

dont matchmake

unless u only did it to fix this issue

[dry pumice]

Discord is this game's matchamking

The one in game is either dead or will feed you chinese speedrunners

like, once in a blue moon

[devout nimbus]

I feel like it could be cool to unlock like different ways for a tool or mechanic to function to giveve you something to play towards, like you could your bio tracker scan, or xray. Not like on objectively better than the other but just more ways to play.

[ocean spindle]

yeah as if guns not bein better than others doesnt show u that would b just very hard to do with tools

i like progression but the only idea i can think of that works is visuals

like skins on guns

[winged turtle]

i disagree, i think it is super neat that the game is the same wether you are brand new on R1A1 or if you are a vet speedrunning E level missions

[dry pumice]

poisonous cfoam that slowly kills sleepers that got stuck, but ricoshets of a door

[ocean spindle]

true

[ocean spindle]

in some levels like r1c1 that would just destroy

4 foams and thats it

and the hole in the wall

[winged turtle]

i like more cosmetics, guns and melee cosmetics sound great

[ocean spindle]

yeah that sounds nice

idk about sights tho i feel like they add a lot to the gun, and changin em is

ah idk

[devout nimbus]

It would be cool like as another way of progression you could get dif gun sights, all same zoom as they shud for the gun but like a not goofy box sights for the pdw

[dry pumice]

i mean... the only objective one is the thermals

and you can just arbitrary exclude them from some guns

[ocean spindle]

right as u say it

right as u say it

the pdw and precision rifle bein bad r on purpose cause if the thermal was just more normal then
what

[dry pumice]

Like what's a TRULY bad scope in the game right now?

Veruta's Spyglass?

[ocean spindle]

ive heard some people say dmr but

nah

also people that hate ironsights are just weak

[devout nimbus]

Dmr is fire

[winged turtle]

born and raised

[mossy aurora]

Bullpup scope has a bit too much going on for me

[devout nimbus]

It's too complicated and for what

[ocean spindle]

i like it since its a point and thats all i gotta aim for

[dry pumice]

ironically its the one i can tolerate instead

something about those hexes

[winged turtle]

whats worse than the Veruta MG?

[dry pumice]

hmmmmmmm

[ocean spindle]

for me veruta aint that bad but with the recoil is ahhh stop

hel shotgun sight fuckin slaps it might b my fav

[devout nimbus]

Wait what that one is fire

[dry pumice]

nothing comes to mind, really

[devout nimbus]

Arbalist sight blows

[ocean spindle]

oh cmon

its holographic u cant hate it

[dry pumice]

i think i'm kinda annoyed by vanilla AR's holosight, but very slightly

so yeah, veruta is just the "winner" of bad sights

oh actually maybe HAR

[ocean spindle]

the sight of the carbine annoys me cause the square isnt a square and just decides to to that curve

[ocean spindle]

har is a nice sight

[devout nimbus]

Nah carbine sight is fire

[dry pumice]

not when you full auto it

it punches you in the face and you cant see shit

[ocean spindle]

thats the recoil not the sight

welcome

[dry pumice]

i wonder how ironsights would look like

[devout nimbus]

U can just spam click har and it ain't that bad

[ocean spindle]

the old har i can say its just not good

that sight is

ahhh

why

[dry pumice]

and yes, now that you remind me Carbine's sight is very akward

it just feels ugly

[ocean spindle]

yeah its just a square that feels sad

and the red just doesnt sell it for me either

[devout nimbus]

Man what

[ocean spindle]

its bad u cant escape facts

[dry pumice]

i know exactly what's wrong

[devout nimbus]

How u gunna say you like bullpup but not like the most basic ass reflex sight on carbine

[dry pumice]

i hate how it clashes with the design of the gun itself

carbine got that rounded front, but the scope is perfect square

they don't mix

[ocean spindle]

not even perfect its so bad

[dry pumice]

either round up the scope or square up the gun

[icy cave]

You are very ....... specific

[dry pumice]

also it looks oddly familiar... it reminds me of something... hm

[ocean spindle]

its an argument :]

for me it just looks
...
idk add a bit more red to it, brighter red

[icy cave]

enough internet for today

[dry pumice]

BOTTLE OPENER

That's what it reminds me of!

[ocean spindle]

oh god yes whyy

[long ember]

The DMR scope is dirty. I can’t stand the dust when the room is bright

[cold quarry]

yeah it's insanely smudgey

[ocean spindle]

skill issue just aim through the dirt

[devout nimbus]

but like where u need to aim is bright yellow compared to all the dust

[devout nimbus]

why does the matchmaking system blow

is it that bad or is the game dead or something

I mean I wouldn't think so becuz u can find new lobbies every minute here

[craggy pier]

no one uses it

everyone uses discord lfg

it was added solely to appease whingers in steam discussions

[winged turtle]

and has since been emptied of even the cheaters

[low willow]

from what I heard, the discord worked well enough that the community developed around lfg and nobody cared to switch to matchmaking once it was released

[winged turtle]

that feels right

[cold quarry]

the MM is awful

also DMR sight is awful

precision weapon using a little groove to aim

[craggy pier]

ong bestie truer words never spoken

[cold quarry]

thank you breastie

[craggy pier]

[gray solstice]

Does anyone know how to get apparel? Like hoodie and gass mask?

[raven oar]

By winning

[gray solstice]

lol Oh so the apparel is random

[raven oar]

Yup

[icy cave]

RNG Babeh!!!

took me 5 rundowns of drops to get the hood 😭

[weak root]

is there only 1 hood headwear in the game?

i think it looks pretty lame, got it from R1B1 when i started

[icy cave]

I think there are more but they variants from each other