gtfo-related-questions

[latent obsidian]

Is it a part of this music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHPWOpaSuWU&list=PLR0IDM31ZBoOXLn2Xsi1oMHB64bIf748h&index=5&ab_channel=easternunit200

I think this has the descending notes we might be thinking of

I'm not entirely sure what cues this music to play though, maybe being in a zone the game knows you have cleared out and there are no enemies?

[ocean spindle]

exploration music plays when u enter a room with no enemies and u
explore
if im not wrong

cause most of the times u hear em enterin a level or enterin a zone

then when u come across an enemy, the music fades out

it can happen when theres room separators too

[latent obsidian]

so it happens any time you backtrack?

[lusty bramble]

I got a good feeling you're bopping to the classic Simon viklund cover of a phantom of the opera classic

[ocean spindle]

not every time, idk if with backtracks, i dont think ive heard it, its more when ur explorin new zones

when u enter a new room and u just walk into it

u can notice it super clearly wirh r3a3 in the second room u go into

[wooden loom]

im playing the second level of rundown 1 and i encountered an enemy that has some sort of feeler things

what do i do

i accidently triggered one on the last level because i couldnt kill it with my knife

[ocean spindle]

ah yeah u can only kill em with knife on the back of the head and its super unreliable

if one of ur team has a spear or a hammer

u can tell em to try hittin em too

... in the head, obv

[wooden loom]

its bots so i dont think they do melee

[latent obsidian]

you can shoot them in the head with some guns for an instant kill if you want

[ocean spindle]

ah bots lmao

yeah u need another melee if ur gon with bots

[latent obsidian]

But in the long term its good to learn how to kill them silently with your melee weapon (and with knife and bat its harder)

[ocean spindle]

knife is super nice when u have other people on ur team to back u up

[wooden loom]

ok i will probably start bringing a different melee weapon then

would it be fine if i finish off the normal enemies in the room and then kill the feeler enemy with a shotgun?

[latent obsidian]

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[latent obsidian]

yeah thats totally fine

[ocean spindle]

what type of shotgun tho

[wooden loom]

im using the combat shotgun

[ocean spindle]

ahhhh

[wooden loom]

is that an issue too lol

[ocean spindle]

its
a bit
hard with that weapon

well

[wooden loom]

it seems like im not picking the best weapons for playing with bots

[ocean spindle]

well its nice for some levels includin that one but yeah its a bit hard to kill scouts cause i think u need to like be at point blank and shoot it a lot, tho im not sure i dont remember it too well

is it on like

the main room? the enemy?

or after another door

[wooden loom]

oh i cant use images

its behind a security door that requires a keycard

thats basically touching the main room

[ocean spindle]

mh
well if u absolutely need to kill it and cant sneak around it
get behind it, and spam ur combat shotgun like three times on the back of the head

or
u could try to get to it and jump and hit it with ur knife on the back of the head but like thats way harder

[wooden loom]

yea im just a little nervous because i need to search the lockers for the objective and there is lots in this room with the electric locks on

if i mess up once it will probably call a hoard of enemies

[ocean spindle]

u can use lock melters

or use the terminal to ping it

[wooden loom]

oh ok

i will try that

[ocean spindle]

good luck :]

[wooden loom]

thanks

well it triggered and called the hoard

thanks for the advice anyway

at least its gone i guess

it turned out they can climb up ladders

[ocean spindle]

ah yeah :]

they mobile

[tardy ingot]

electric locks have an alert radius. They dont alert the whole room immediatly

[wooden loom]

oh interesting

i will bare that in mind, thanks

[fierce nebula]

everything that "wakes up" has a radius

you can shoot if you're far enough away

[vague bridge]

hack locks are easy peasy

failing it is the hard part

[ocean spindle]

yeah startin em is so easy

[tardy ingot]

enemy screams in rooms?

[lunar rain]

Is r7e1 possible with 3 people ?

[ocean spindle]

yeah but its gonna be a lil harder
bots i think had an update to help with the level but i have no idea if they work or not

[tardy ingot]

has been done in duo without using glitches
Definetly quite a bit harder tho

[lunar rain]

I have tried with a bot and he just shoots Pablo and dies

[fierce nebula]

I think that has a radius too but theres just a domino effect

or maybe screams do affect the whole room

[lusty bramble]

R7e1 duo is impossible. No one has ever done it before

🇸🇬

[merry socket]

Twas indeed exploration music, thank you. And thank you for the extra info too @ocean spindle . I think I have my music turned down low and probably just noticed the melodic parts

[ocean spindle]

yeah
its a super nice song tho

i think it feels nice considerin how a lonely zone feels like

its like
ksmdk idk its so good

[merry socket]

"say goodbye to your bollocks, we've got: a sick remix"

[minor fractal]

All of the exploration themes are good stuff.

You can hardly tell there's 12 of them, either, they blend right in.

[ocean spindle]

me and the bois when exploration theme 6 starts playin:

[craggy pier]

Regarding R1C1's thing about waves, AFAIK (I could be wrong on this) most (all?) reactors have a set numbers of enemies that they spawn, so inputting code ASAP is useless unless you worry about completion time or some other time constraint

[minor fractal]

I'm not sure if there is a mechanic where waves that spawn late can be cancelled, but almost no reactors have late waves.

And I can confirm from some R4E1 dump truck shenanigans that those waves do stack up.

[craggy pier]

Yeah I'm also nearly sure they just stack up and spawn as soon as enough "slots" (or whatever) are free

[fierce nebula]

so speedrunning reactor just makes the alarm into a surge alarm

[tardy ingot]

not quite

[fierce nebula]

😳

[tardy ingot]

since most reactors simply dont have waves spawn outside of the actual waves

so you clear them, insta get code and input it immediatly

theres a funny you can do on R2D2 tho (you can go into zone 200, where key might be for zone with terminal for code 8, early)
meaning you can do the alarm mid reactor wave. This leads to some fucked up stuff where they keep spawning while theres downtime (due to you inputting code asap) and then spawning when wave 9 starts still

[past mesa]

Reactor waves stack up and enter a queue type of system. Now if you had some way of cancelling alarms you can get rid of all waves stacking up.

[spark wolf]

r6d1 reactor stopped all waves on completion

meaning it deleted its own queue too

i still dont know why they did that

but probably something broke if they didnt

like all the other bandaids

like r6d2

with the bandaid for the bandaid

cant use the special spawn spots in extreme so have to put the wave event somewhere else

but then the waves dont end

so they add another stopallwaves to finishing all the scans

maybe fix the issues

[tardy ingot]

it made for a fun strat masked used in the solo d1 speedrun

[spark wolf]

maybe they will figure out why cells become static spawns for alt r5

so we wont see them put a 1000k end weight on the R5A1 extreme cell

to have it be A anyway

its crazy that they rereleased R2B2 and still haven't figured out that the gens are random based on build seed

could have removed the zone and accepted defeat or just actually fixed it

there are deffinitely ppl working on the game

[mossy aurora]

do alarm waves take priority over queued reactor waves?

i remember one of the r5c2 alarms being able to be done during the actual reactor wave and not having backed up spawns

[past star]

This is a deep question

Making me rethink my life

[mossy aurora]

ima bout to call in sick to work thinking about this tbh

[past mesa]

Probably had the stop all waves on win competition for the reactor

[tardy ingot]

unironically do not know
and havent tried the reactor speedrun yet so couldnt try

good point tho

[past mesa]

Alarm waves are different that reactor ones

They don’t add to the stack unless they met their requirements

[mossy aurora]

yeah but like if you are doing an alarm mid reactor wave, do you get the reactor wave, or a separate alarm spawn which will put a reactor wave in queue

[past mesa]

I think it will depend on condition

[spark wolf]

i dont think priority exists in any pure form

[past mesa]

If there both the same it is rng or maximum min time decided

[spark wolf]

its whatever happens to be first in line that has enough space to spawn

if theres only space for 3 dudes

[past mesa]

I feel like reactors will spawn more often they tend to have a low minimum spawn time

[spark wolf]

and one of ur waves wants to spawn 3 dudes

while the other wants to do 5

it will pick 3

[past mesa]

Yeah

Honestly really cool tech I wish it came up more

[lunar rain]

Any tips for r7e1? Other than get better and don’t die ?

[ocean spindle]

dont stop livin

[icy cave]

where you die? like give us more

[lunar rain]

My friends and I die trying to do the scan for the cell, but I have a general idea on what to do after we get the cell

Basically the alarm of that level

[craggy pier]

oh boy

[latent obsidian]

Be a bit patient, bait the immortal around, don't get greedy and try to scan when the guy is bearing down on you

[icy cave]

so first alarm

[latent obsidian]

Put some turrets at the entrance of the zone looking out

[icy cave]

this+ get rid of any bots of they are there.

they'll attack immortal endlessly

[lunar rain]

I am well aware that what we have gotten to is like 10% of the total level

[icy cave]

5

[craggy pier]

🥹

[lunar rain]

And the rest of it is not fun

[icy cave]

2 turrets on stairs down , have bio constantly pinging

don't bring mines

[lunar rain]

So no sea foam then ?

[latent obsidian]

you want cfoam in the long run

[icy cave]

re read

[latent obsidian]

bio 2 turrets cfoam

[lunar rain]

We have 3 people total

[icy cave]

drop a sentry I guess

[latent obsidian]

thats gonna make life harder obv, but drop a turret or the bio then

[lunar rain]

Gotcha, I’ll see how it goes later, and ask if we still need more help

[latent obsidian]

good luck

[icy cave]

So one sentry on the stairs down, on the top. when pablo is close run to the other side of the room, then when he is there go back for the scan.

[past mesa]

It is very dooble with one turret bio and foam

[icy cave]

The rest is just standard pew pew pew

[lunar rain]

The get off my lawn protocol

[icy cave]

basically

[icy cave]

also obvious but kill the snatcher before launching the alarm

[lunar rain]

Yep

[south geode]

hi, how good is the game to get into as a solo player (as in, i dont have friends i know already with the game, but would play with people here)

[ocean spindle]

helloo, well theres bots that can fill in spaces, but the game gets exponentially harder
i do recommend playin with other newies, or u can do one two runs with bots and then decide

just some advice if u r gonna play with people
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training]
make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[latent obsidian]

It won't be as good an experience as getting into it with your own group but if you queue with other new players you might find some people you can gel with to play with again in future. The majority of people you find in lfg are fine, but there are some people that rush, and unfortunately recently some hackers that deliberately ruin the experience

[icy cave]

solo you'll get hardstuck. the bots will help you to a point but it stops as well. so take that heavily into consideration

[ocean spindle]

i still say we need that
extra bit of security to enter this discord but mh

[south geode]

i getcha, its definatley something i want to properly learn, but if I should see if i could get some friends to join me or if i can group with people from this server

[icy cave]

#how-to-matchmake and #lfg-beginners

Are there for you

[ocean spindle]

yeah the bet
experience is learnin all together so

if u can convince some friendos, even if theres only three in ur group, more than enough

[south geode]

i see, thank you very much

[ocean spindle]

what b a nice main weapon for chargers? im playin 3 bots but hel shottie isnt very good for the level

[neon gust]

hel revo, dmr

full auto spam

burst rifle carabine spam

[dry pumice]

Main?
...
I don't know, nothing really... Chargers are primary patients for special weapons.
I guess something mid-range as to not let them get closer? Any of the assault rifles, carbine... Everything except the SMG, basically. HEL shotgun included, that thing stunlocks giant chargers into oblivion. I guess there's something else its failing at.

[ocean spindle]

lmao me takin smg

im so good at this game

[neon gust]

magdump

just because it isnt the most efficient doesnt mean you cannot make it work

[mossy aurora]

If 3 strikers are running at you, and you burst cannon the first one, will the 2nd and 3rd bullets kill the strikers behind, or will all 5 shots be eaten by the first strikers body

And does this change as host vs client

[ocean spindle]

we had a discussion bout this once

theres two sides, one say the body fallin off doesnt matter at all almost all of the time
the other says u can get like 2 or 3 kills at max

if lucky

so i have no idea

ive tested it

a bit

and i can get 2 kills ok so

[low willow]

i know there is a mod out there that fixes dead bodies blocking bullets but i don't actually know how big of an issue it is, in practice it probably just depends on how the body ragdolls and how you control the recoil

[vague bridge]

r3c1? i took hel shot and choke mod

which is kind of a "get the baddies of me right now" loadout if you get overwhelmed

it really depends on whether theyre sleeping or charging

[ocean spindle]

ok im stealin that

[spark wolf]

your kills are delayed as client

until they actually happen it will keep blocking bullets

for host things die instantly

[mossy aurora]

Does this have to do with the way burst weapons are coded? Or just the speed at which the bullets are fired

[hardy grotto]

Speed at which bullets are fired

[ocean spindle]

i play three bots

deflected

[worldly perch]

what's up with the 2 extra power cells in R3B2? is that intentional?

[weary mesa]

Yea

[worldly perch]

2 generators and 4 cells, doesnt add up

[weary mesa]

it's a choose your path level kind of

Used to have the fog turbine lock behind the side with one cell

So you'd do the back zone next to mother for the last cell

[worldly perch]

5 class alarm gives 2 cells and 0 resources

and 3 class with one cell and some resources

kinda makes that 5 class worthless

[weary mesa]

I forget if the old one had a fuck ton of fogs or not

I mean it's a choice

[worldly perch]

there is turbine at the starting zone

and one at the end

[weary mesa]

Most people will just take the easier more boring one

[ocean spindle]

if im rememberin the level well

itll make sense

dont worry

u keep goin champ

[worldly perch]

I did both back to back and had 3 cells at the start

[ocean spindle]

ah

well
u sure got power for days

[worldly perch]

nah I dont have any difficulty, I plowed through R3 in a day

Im just curious if that was an oversight with the extra cells

[ocean spindle]

ah then if u did it u will remember that if u did the 2 cell alarms u dont have to go through another zone

[weary mesa]

Pretty sure the OG R3 has resources on the double cell side

[ocean spindle]

then u can skip that one zone

and just go into the funky funky objective

[worldly perch]

but then very low on ammo

[ocean spindle]

if u choose the lower difficulty u gotta go through the other zone to get another cell

[weary mesa]

You don't have too

[ocean spindle]

maybe but ah u can recover

[worldly perch]

that zone is mandatory, you cant skip it

[ocean spindle]

ah then no idea

[worldly perch]

and it also has a cell

[ocean spindle]

wait

[worldly perch]

and we end up with 4 cells

[ocean spindle]

nope i dont remember it

[worldly perch]

basically there's too many fucking cells for 2 gens XD

[ocean spindle]

i could swear theres three generators but im just stupid

no wait

there are three

r3b2?

[worldly perch]

yes

[ocean spindle]

there are three

[worldly perch]

I remember one at the start and one next to mother

[ocean spindle]

one in the beginning, other in the spits zone and the final next to the boss

so i do make sense

[worldly perch]

right

[ocean spindle]

if u go into the high alarm u dont have to go into the side of the boss room

u can just go in

[worldly perch]

well it makes sense now, I forgot about the one in spitter zone

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[worldly perch]

but then it's 5 cells, not 4

[ocean spindle]

well i only played the level once so i had to read the wiki

[worldly perch]

3 at the start, 1 in spitter zone and 1 in zone next to mother

[sturdy glen]

class 5 is a fuckin trap ngl

[ocean spindle]

well yeah u arent supposed to open
both initial doors

[worldly perch]

yes that's what I mean

[sturdy glen]

you have no reason to do it rn because theres so many resources in the second to last zone

[worldly perch]

that door next to mother is free, with lots of ammo

and a cell

[ocean spindle]

mh

[sturdy glen]

the extra spawn barely even matters

[ocean spindle]

if u want a challenge i guess

melee everythin

[worldly perch]

also I dont recall ||giant chargers|| being in old R3

[weary mesa]

They weren't

[sturdy glen]

they werent yea

[weary mesa]

The Charger scouts weren't either

[ocean spindle]

i just took that spoiler like a little bitch

im so dumb

[weary mesa]

Both added in latter rundowns

[sturdy glen]

I really like that change

[worldly perch]

yeah, element of surprise

imagine meatballs in R4

[weary mesa]

Hopefully they'll do more of that

Pretty neat

[worldly perch]

pity we dont got a single surge in R3

[rose stirrup]

sorry if it was asked before but, are any of the 4 new guns in this rundown worth using? or are they just like worse versions of current existing guns like the dmr/sniper

[hardy grotto]

They’re a little strong

Just a bit

[rose stirrup]

all of them? including the burst cannon?

[hardy grotto]

yup

Burst cannon insanely op

hel gun is also really fucked

[rose stirrup]

is the hel rifle better than the sniper?

[hardy grotto]

Hel rifle is ass, don’t trust anyone who says it isn’t

Hel rifle doesn’t rlly fulfill the same role as sniper tbh

[sturdy glen]

hel rifle is fine lol

not op doesnt mean its bad

but yeah it does not fill the same role as sniper

[rose stirrup]

how do they differ?

in terms of role

[sturdy glen]

hel rifle has no precision

you dont take out high priority targets with it

unless its staggering giants or stacked giants

[hardy grotto]

You have to play around the penetration, except the penetration literally doesn’t work how it’s supposed to so you never get the value you’re meant to get out of it

[arctic marten]

what do you shoot with it then?

[rose stirrup]

i see. and how does the new drekker main weapon compare to the existing dmr? i usually use dmr for my main but it seemed like drekker is really similar

[sturdy glen]

I mean

even without pen hel rifle has no stats to make up for compared to other guns similar to it

(dont fucking mention hel gun)

[hardy grotto]

Rifle is decent, it’s kinda like a long range pistol

Don’t think I’d compare it to dmr tbh

[hardy grotto]

And continuing this, hel gun is still insane despite this cause you can use it for basically anything and it’ll do well

decent damage vs bigs, good vs smalls, good against chargers, the pen is more of a bonus than something you need to play around

Don’t see much reason to run hel rifle

I guess one shotting a charger wave is cool?

[ocean spindle]

lmao them callin hel rifle bad

listen listen

hahaha

laugh

laughter sounds

[sturdy glen]

hel gun funny

that is the conclusion

[hardy grotto]

blows my mind that they didn’t nerf it or bc

[sturdy glen]

same honestly

they touched up rifle didnt they?

[hardy grotto]

ye

[sturdy glen]

moment

[hardy grotto]

Buffed it a bunch I’m pretty sure

[spark wolf]

lets keep collectively shitting on hel rifle so for R4 we get hel rifle without the shot delay

[mossy aurora]

does the pen bug only happen on hel rifle? or happens with helgun too

[silver fable]

I've seen people saying things along these lines but it seemed like they might've just been memeing. Do you have details on it?

[sturdy glen]

hel guns op, rifle is fine

if rifle was fixed it would be more fine but still not op

[silver fable]

I consider them both to be OP, fwiw

but if hel rifle overpen is wonky in some way I'm not aware of then that colours things

[silver fable]

hel rifle gets as much ammo per refill as choke shotty for some reason, so even without overpen it's fine against high priority targets

it looked really embarrassing when we went from r5 hel rifle to r6 choke shotty, which was prior to the r7 choke shotty ammo buff

[ocean spindle]

basically the bullet hits an enemy, detects it again and hits two times
and so thats two hits in a single enemy

[silver fable]

guessing you're not double-damaging a single giant with this for some reason?

and even so, this seems like it'd effectively reduce overpen to 3

which is still enough, >3 pen lineups are pretty rare

[ocean spindle]

idk if it damages, that was not explain to me

i only got an image

[silver fable]

fair

[ocean spindle]

do u want it

its the best i can offer

[silver fable]

sure

graphic seems to imply calculation carried out in similar manner on all hel weapons

is hel gun calculated in a different way?

[spark wolf]

the hel gun is good anyway

[silver fable]

I agree the hel gun is good even without pen

[ocean spindle]

i prefer precision rifle /j

[silver fable]

hel rifle without pen... might not be amazing, but is a pretty absurd base to add pen to

[ocean spindle]

is basically chokemod but a bit more range and charge time for shootin

[silver fable]

and an extra round per clip

[ocean spindle]

and less stagger
even if that last fact is just

eh

[silver fable]

lower precision multi is the one that I'll actually pay attention to

the only reason to use choke shotty right now is because it's the premier boss killer

fwiw it's a pretty decent reason

[ocean spindle]

ah yeah fwiw
for world inmense wars

[silver fable]

still, r7 onward weapon balance was interesting for really downgrading how impactful you could be at long range

we went from hel gun and r6 sniper, to r7 sniper, choke shotty, high cal

[ocean spindle]

i dont recall range bein nerfed
i prob missed it i only saw the mag size from snippy

[silver fable]

sniper received an ammo nerf, no range nerf

choke shotty didn't look all that pretty next to hel gun, but r6 sniper really gave choke shotty no reason to exist

[ocean spindle]

ah yea not mag im stupid i mean total

also idk if thats true but idk enough from r6 to

really

make an argument

[silver fable]

my point was more that yes you could still hit the same at the same range with r7 sniper as r6 sniper, but not nearly as much because your bullets became more precious

with r6 sniper you shot everything

bigs, smalls, chargers, whatever

down like one big with sniper and you were already ahead of choke shotty on a per refill basis, you could sink the rest of your ammo into smalls

now you kinda really want all 3 bullets you get from a refill to go into the heads of bigs

[dreamy umbra]

i haven't played this game in forever, what rundown has the easier levels? i hope rundown 2 has easier levels cause i rlly like the helmet

[ocean spindle]

r1

u should just do em in order

its the best way

[dreamy umbra]

thanks!

[ocean spindle]

its oke

[vague bridge]

those who know

[jagged shore]

@craggy pier how do you do the text coloring in your name in game?

[craggy pier]

Magic

(Mods)

[jagged shore]

aww dang was hoping it was unmodded ah well

[craggy pier]

Just get the mod

Shrimple

[verbal zinc]

🚨 🚨 🚨

[craggy pier]

Oh no the police are here

Im going to get banned

[verbal zinc]

[craggy pier]

[fierce nebula]

Mr Electric zap his pp

[honest lion]

When me and my friend tried to clear R3C1, after we got the hsu and run back to extract there was a pretty large wave of charger, is that supposed to happen? I swear there was at least 10-15 of em

[vital sierra]

it's do be a ramping up Error alarm

[honest lion]

I should've killed them huh

By ramping, do they spawn faster and faster?

[icy cave]

More and more

[honest lion]

Oh

[icy cave]

Speed is recommended

[honest lion]

Is better to just shoot the HSU room?

[icy cave]

You don't have to. it does not ramp up that fast

[honest lion]

I'll try to do it faster then. Last run, ran out of ammo. got bonked by 5-6 charger while scanning

[icy cave]

But when you got the HSU. time to walk back. Shoot any wave that Spawns in front. Waves that spawn behind you could use a door + mine somewhere on the way

[honest lion]

They spawned on the door next to extraction ;_;

[icy cave]

Well they gon spawn 2 rooms away. which one is rng on every wave

Also when reaching extract I always had a big wave of chargers so it .ight be so that the extract scan Spawns a full wave just for the heck of it or something

Only did it 3 times so not entirely sure yet

[honest lion]

What about weapons? I used Regular Shotgun before but it ran out of ammos pretty quickly

Carbine was a horrible idea on my end tho

[neon gust]

nice to see someone we came to the same conclusion

[neon gust]

if you play with pump shotty play more defensively

you usually better when it comes quickly giving the team breathing room

[honest lion]

Gotcha

[hardy grotto]

It’s all penetration

[hardy grotto]

somebody already kinda explained it to you, I’m pretty sure they coded it so you can’t double damage a single enemy, so the pen just gets completely skipped, shooting through limbs seems way more consistent for getting full pen than going through torso anyways

[verbal zinc]

i can pen you

[neon gust]

hes got a tiny helgun i got a big hel rifle

[hardy grotto]

LMFAO

[verbal zinc]

its all about the right technique

[civic mist]

nothing worse than unsolicited hel weaponry

[fierce nebula]

would explain why my hel gun leaks in the morning

[latent obsidian]

Any other hel revolver enjoyers? 🙂

[neon gust]

hel revo its circumcised helgun

[mossy aurora]

[verbal zinc]

[latent obsidian]

I don't want to think what the hel shotgun is

[fierce nebula]

it's when your load sprays instead of being singular

[dry pumice]

Slug shotgun when. Then again HCP and HEL rifle is basically that...

What would even the point of slug shotgun be.

50 damage? Giant killer? Close range sniper rifle?

[fierce nebula]

I think it would play very similar to choke mod or HCP(post nerf)

[neon gust]

avoiding pellet loss damage :)))))))

so i can hs reliably

[fresh helm]

Scattergun. It will solve all problems,.

Maybe we should get a KS-23. It would be handy.

[dry pumice]

Well, its scifi successor that is.

No realistic guns here, save for that mac10 looking weirdo

[fierce nebula]

yeah gtfo is much more sci-fi than modern

[worthy stratus]

Do hel weapons work on tanks and mothers? e.g. will they hit 2+ tumors/ will they penetrate though a tank's torso and hit their tumor?

[minor fractal]

No, they are limited to 1 hit per target.

Although hitting multiple parts of an enemy will reduce your penetration.

[worthy stratus]

👍 Ah preciate the response, learned something new as well

[lusty bramble]

.

[past star]

.

[hardy grotto]

.

[craggy pier]

.

[solemn flint]

what is going on?

[vague bridge]

.

[swift lodge]

is there a log somewhere for showcasing the R&D $$$ spent on Burst Cannon vs the Machine Gun? The 2 guns don't even compare for performance and I want to know why

[dry pumice]

No.

In fact we haven't gotten a single log describing any of the weapons or their history.

The only thing we have on record is how prisoners collectively learned out of nowhere how to use industrial Cfoam dispensers for reinforcing defensive positions.

[ocean spindle]

we have also just general info on their companies, kovac is security, omneco produces gas tanks and lightgas guns
techman just seems to specialize on fast firing guns

[civic wave]

put machine gun bullets into the burst cannon magazine and see what happens

[ocean spindle]

so considerin they made the two machineguns, a burst weapons wouldnt been hard to make

[dry pumice]

The real question is why though

What's the tactical value of a burst fire machine gun

Machine guns are primarily suppressive fire. Can't suppress shit with a burst...

[mossy aurora]

You use real machines by bursting them otherwise you gonna melt the barrel

[ocean spindle]

i guess they considered how a fast firing machinegun could mow down a lot of people, but what would happen if all those bullets hit way faster
it had to b on a burst tho cause if u tried to let em out all at once, would b
hard

[dry pumice]

Cover penetration? Anti-vehicle? The caliber does seem to be surprisingly high

[ocean spindle]

maybe somethin like
hittin well protected targets, or even solid surfaces, like hit an enemy through a wall?

idk

idk guns

found somethin on wikipedia

An automatic cannon or machine cannon is a fully automatic gun that is capable of rapid-firing large-caliber, armour-piercing, explosive or incendiary shells, as opposed to the smaller-caliber kinetic projectiles (bullets) fired by a machine gun. Autocannons have a longer effective range and greater terminal performance than machine guns, due to the use of larger/heavier munitions, but are usually smaller than tank guns, howitzers, field guns or other artillery.

i guess all this
but in a smaller pack for it to be handled by a human

'Although capable of generating extremely rapid firepower, autocannons overheat quickly if used for sustained fire, and are limited by the amount of ammunition that can be carried by the weapons systems mounting them.'

hm

[dry pumice]

Hm. So basically they attempted to make a bolter.

[ocean spindle]

judgin by the warhammer wiki
a bit yeah kinda
but i see a difference on just a slug shotgun for example

and an autocannon, since with one u can hit multiple times and wear out surfaces a lot quicker or hit multiple target at the same time, where as with the other one u only hit once and may be more powerful, but w/o those other pros

[dry pumice]

Hm, that does make sense.

The recoil control on BC is supreme.

Yeah, I can imagine 5 high caliber bullets hitting the same spot causing problem even for armored vehicles.

[ocean spindle]

yeah with a machinegun the caliber wouldnt b enough to really destroy a very hard protected vehicle, but with an autocannon u could really damage it with maybe not the speed of the bullets of a machinegun but in a more effective way

aight glad we resolve this issue :D

[dry pumice]

Which further proves its ingame role as a giant killer

[ocean spindle]

yeah
machinegun for smols burst cannon for bigs

[mossy aurora]

Oh no not again

[ocean spindle]

whut

[mossy aurora]

@hardy grotto burst cannon is for bigs only

😈

[hardy grotto]

im not doing this again man

[dry pumice]

There was a 5 hour debate in #gtfo-spoiler-chat about BC. Don't worry about it.

[civic wave]

burst cannon is for dealing with the naysayers

1 shots

[ocean spindle]

ahhh

yeah not gettin into that

this examples with the autocannon were irl

thank u

autocannon machineguns irl

[weary mesa]

Why burst Cannon have half the damage of Sniper but 5x the ammo

[mossy aurora]

I'm on lunch break and need something to read tho 😦

[ocean spindle]

cause numbers b funk

[hardy grotto]

if u want something to read ask d4 about his tier list of weapons im sure thatll provide entertainment

[dry pumice]

Wait, sniper is only 40 damage?

I thought it would be like 50 at least

[civic wave]

people were being wholesome in #general i'm sure that'll occupy you for 5 minutes

[arctic marten]

sniper keeps losing

[civic wave]

otherwise you can read diabetes statistics with me as I write this assignment

[ocean spindle]

yeah but has a precision multiplier that is very nice
thats why u need three shots to kills a big with body shots, but one for the head

[hardy grotto]

sniper stays losing

burst cannon users stay winning

[weary mesa]

Both should be losing

[ocean spindle]

sniper stays with one of the bests sights in the game dont even debate that, its ttrue

[arctic marten]

(its not)

[dry pumice]

Alright so there we go. BC is just lazy man's sniper.
I never was into headshots anyway.

[hardy grotto]

i mean if u think about it right

precision rifle is winning

[arctic marten]

shut up

[hardy grotto]

LMAO

[mossy aurora]

#general chat 🤢

[ocean spindle]

weak

u cant handle the uwus

hah

[dry pumice]

I keep forgetting general exists

[arctic marten]

oops! all 12 year olds

[hardy grotto]

probs for the best

[dry pumice]

It's hidden and ignored in some server subcategory that I don't even open.

[ocean spindle]

and then it becomes gtfo chat sometimes

some a lot of times

[hardy grotto]

ok but mountainman

the precision rifle is basically the burst cancel exploit

[ocean spindle]

um

[arctic marten]

no way they added the losing exploit

[dry pumice]

Well, minus body shot damage and precision multipliers...

[arctic marten]

these devs are crazy

[hardy grotto]

these devs must be stopped

[mossy aurora]

Precision rifle users that shoot the head first then say "headshotted" are gigachads honestly

[arctic marten]

time to make the hel shotgun a burst fire weapon

[dry pumice]

Hmm... Honestly...

[hardy grotto]

hel shotgun fires 3 bursts at once

still doesnt kill a sleeper

truly inspirational

[wooden osprey]

as a double auto shotgun user this post is very disturbing

[ocean spindle]

just be closer to it

aint so hard

[hardy grotto]

yeah but thats too specific

[wooden osprey]

HERESY!

[arctic marten]

r8 will finally implement the burst scattergun in the files

[ocean spindle]

nah u just gotta b close

[hardy grotto]

being close means u have to play around the gun

so its bad

[arctic marten]

hel shotgun stays losing

[weary mesa]

Don't forgets Burst Scatter also pierces

[hardy grotto]

i cant wait for the burst scattergun

[ocean spindle]

auto scattergun sentry

[wooden osprey]

this hurts my brain

[ocean spindle]

no yeah its wrong its oke

[arctic marten]

(he hates correct opinions)

[wooden osprey]

aka the FPS consumer

[hardy grotto]

rey jones cant handle the truth

[ocean spindle]

play at my level

[hardy grotto]

gtfo players wont open their eyes to the light

[arctic marten]

this is so sad

[hardy grotto]

truly unfortunate

[ocean spindle]

i played blind

[hardy grotto]

the woke virus has affected them all

[wooden osprey]

and what light am i suppose to open my eyes to?

[ocean spindle]

the sleepers light

look at their insides

[dry pumice]

What's the point of a gun if its effective range is 3 meters...

[wooden osprey]

AHHHH i see

[dry pumice]

Kinda defeats the purpose no

Save for few... Rare radical exceptions.

[wooden osprey]

its not the guns fault you are scared of sleepers being in your face

when the gun has all the power to protect you in that state

[ocean spindle]

thank u machinepistol for existing

based

[dry pumice]

I mean realistically

[wooden osprey]

realistically the hel shotgun doesn't even work

[civic wave]

machine pistol is garbage, autopistol does the same thing with more stagger

autopistol is garbage, machine pistol does the same thing with more damage

[dry pumice]

Imagine owning a home defense gun that can't even kill an intruder across your kitchen room

[wooden osprey]

as an actual gun

[dry pumice]

Buy a katanas at that point

[arctic marten]

hm today i will make a shotgun with an effective range of 4m and the second highest aim spread in the game. wait also give it cone size of 4 and shotgun spread of 3, this will be a good weapon

[mossy aurora]

Both are great at making headless babies

[wooden osprey]

... either im so good at double shotguning that it doesn't matter anymore

or you guys suck

[hardy grotto]

laugh at this guy

[wooden osprey]

cause i have no problem

[hardy grotto]

he thinks hel shotgun is good

[wooden osprey]

yes if you are like me

[hardy grotto]

idk if i wanna be like u man

[wooden osprey]

aka inside enemy wave

[weary mesa]

No one can be like you rey

[wooden osprey]

True

[weary mesa]

I'd have to like Zaero

[dry pumice]

HEL shotgun is good, but for all the quirky reasons

[arctic marten]

please stop lying to me

[ocean spindle]

hel shottie more like
uh
haha am i right

[dry pumice]

Hey, it carried me through R7C3PE. In a quadro setup nonetheless.

You haven't experienced fun until you simultaneously stunlock 3 giant chargers into irrelevance.

[wooden osprey]

YES

i did 5 once

[arctic marten]

no

[wooden osprey]

it was fun af

[dry pumice]

Dance, mfkers, dance

[arctic marten]

no you didnt

[wooden osprey]

yes i did

[arctic marten]

no

wrong

[wooden osprey]

it was really funny

[arctic marten]

liar

[wooden osprey]

how is it wrong?

[ocean spindle]

record

[wooden osprey]

i don't record my gameplay

[ocean spindle]

skill recordin issue

[wooden osprey]

sorry ):

[wooden osprey]

yeah my bad

[hardy grotto]

False.

[wooden osprey]

i have to get better

[wooden osprey]

HMMMMMMMM nah True

[hardy grotto]

Incorrect

[wooden osprey]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM nah correct

[arctic marten]

no

you lose

sorry

[wooden osprey]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM nah yes

[ocean spindle]

true true u r wrong ||haha u arent we trollin em||

[arctic marten]

do you mean to tell me that with a pierce of 2, you staggered 5 giant chargers at once

[wooden osprey]

damn thats too high of the skill ceiling for me to counter

you win

[ocean spindle]

yes oh so sad we surrender

[wooden osprey]

if you are far away enough

the spread will effect it

[arctic marten]

i was trolling before, but now you're actually lying to me

[wooden osprey]

i didn't say i killed the chargers i said i stun locked them

[wooden osprey]

nope

[ocean spindle]

14 bullets its a solid 5 10 seconds if u shoot em well

[manic pine]

Just wanted to know if i am the only one who cannot find any lobby with the matchmaking

[arctic marten]

giant chargers have a stagger hp of 40, each hel shotgun pellet does 3.34 stagger damage, so you need 11 of them to stagger once. hel shotgun shoots 8 pellets at once thats 2 shots for 1 charger, 2 if they're lined up perfectly. Maybe I'll throw in a third if im feeling generous. aint no way your ass got 5 at once

[wooden osprey]

no its not just you

i suggest looking into LFG channels

Matchmaking is dead

most of it anyway

[manic pine]

;-;7

[wooden osprey]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training]
make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[soft crater]

Keep in mind. The tutorial teaches you the bare bones and doesn't go in depth any further.

[ocean spindle]

but great for learnin the basics

[fresh helm]

I just jumped in. R7C1 was my tutorial. It works.

[soft crater]

looks at R6C3

I fucking laugh at the clown trying to teach newbies in that level

Who have never even played yet

[icy cave]

THAT.... would not be a good level to teach

[dry pumice]

"Wait what's up with all this stealth? What happened to the action and running for your life?"

[bold atlas]

"So this is a game all about running and gunning?"

tbh my first level was R5A1 so... it wasn't that great either XD

[midnight gazelle]

fun level to play tho

[soft crater]

We then went to R6A1 after the obvious fail.
And the newbies just went running and gunning

I just despise the guy trying to flex his hours and that he plays with another guy (whom I played with long ago and one of the original people who joined his server outside of GTFO for LFG)

[stoic helm]

Do the various weapons makes different sounds levels when you use them to kill?

Or does the knife have an equal chance of waking up a sleeper as the hammer

[turbid horizon]

knife makes less noise

[stoic helm]

I see

Is there also some solid primer on aggro? I've red that you can manipulate the order they wake up in by flashing your light or some shit

[soft crater]

Technically yes

[craggy pier]

this is probably referring to using ur flashlight to make a group of enemies thump so they sync up

[stoic helm]

No, I know of that one.

[soft crater]

Wake up. Not pulsing

[craggy pier]

oh I'm not sure then sorry 🤷‍♂️

[stoic helm]

Uh please elaborate?

Seems useful to know for taking out tight groups

[soft crater]

Kill enemy while targeted enemy is pulsing within range for it to wake up. Ofc make sure other enemies are sleeping

I haven't practiced this myself much but supposedly while an enemy is awake killing them won't make noise

Which you have to control your movement and know your melee ranges to not alert others and move in for the kill

Next to if you need to hit head/back of head

Hammer needs roughly 1/3rd charge to kill strikers from behind to the head

While it is doable. It takes practice

I've had instances I pull it off but teammates rush in thinking the room is awake

[stoic helm]

But you could just stand next to the dude, wake him and then bash him too right?

[soft crater]

Bashing is safer for 1/2 enemies if you fumble your hits. 3-4 alerted maybe

[stoic helm]

With bash I mean head kill, not body slap him

[soft crater]

I believe it's specifically when they are beginning to glow red

A soft alert

Vs hard alerts they go straight into attacking motion

[stoic helm]

I guess hard alerts happen with gun shots?

[soft crater]

Yes

Same with sprinting

You'll notice this with shooters firing a shot out immediately if you sprint at them

[turbid horizon]

anger

[soft crater]

It is John Lemmon

Also known as Dakstar

[turbid horizon]

hate it when shooters do that

[soft crater]

If your rushing not caring about alerts. Just slide once up close and bonk head

[stoic helm]

Also, I don't quite get the hammer. It's probably me, but the spear seems so much more useful in general if you're not going for knify

[soft crater]

Spear is the easiest for stealth

Since you don't want to be sprinting anyhow

Whilst I still do the risky sprint jumps just outside of their detection ranges

I know some people have seen me do this with chargers

Sprint jump past them and bonk the back without alerting

[ocean spindle]

or in combat

u run at it with the melee

but u cant quite do that for spear

ur prone to take more damage while chargin

and with hammer u can strafe or whatevs and bonk

[soft crater]

I personally slide/look to the side then back

Almost habit to crouch to dodge shooter shots for me at this point

As they go for the head(your pov)

[ocean spindle]

ah i just strafe

[soft crater]

Strafing slows your speed down a bit iirc

Or rather you are walk speed doing that

[ocean spindle]

ah nitpicks

:]

just kiddin

ah but either way this is far the og point

[flat jacinth]

is it worth it playing solo + bots? or just solo?

[fierce nebula]

depends on the level
I'd say A and B levels can be easy just solo
but C levels you might need bots
and D you'd need bots unless you're skilled

[ocean spindle]

of course u need very high skills if u wanna play completely alone w/o bots

u need some skills to play with bots

and u need
to learn with ur team if u all new

this isnt an easy game

completely alone is very hard

[flat jacinth]

doing R1B2 with bots rn 🙂 somehow still alive lmao, it's fun tho

[ocean spindle]

good luuuuck

[flat jacinth]

bots decided not to hop on the extract scanner 🙂

but I ggot out

[ocean spindle]

yeah they never do :]

u gotta wait extra time

BUT U DID IT CONGRATS SKMDK

[flat jacinth]

did a lot of backtracking

didnt realize I was next to the objective for 30 minutes tryingg to clear out every sleeper from around the Scout

[ocean spindle]

ah well thats why the ping and query command does things ksmdk
but u found it so good enough

[pine swift]

do the alt rundowns contain the logs that were originally in them alongside new ones, or did the new ones replace them?

[icy cave]

#gtfo-lore

[vague bridge]

that place spoils

my point stands strong

[pine swift]

yep

[dense cedar]

Tensy weensy question, since google isn't being all that helpful.

Is it by any chance possible to C-Foam launcher a 'Normal mother' as opposed to C-Foam grenading them.

[latent obsidian]

you can but it takes more than one full whack of cfoam, so questionable whether it is worth doing in a lot of cases

[dense cedar]

So the grenade is the safest bet?

[latent obsidian]

The grenade is probably the most effective and efficient way of doing it

[dense cedar]

Okie

[latent obsidian]

Why do you want to foam her btw?

Well, thats a silly question

[dense cedar]

To quote the group.

'' So we can safely and humanely put 900 rounds into her head ''

[latent obsidian]

What I mean to say is that if she is asleep already you can blast her to bits before she gets a chance to do much

[dense cedar]

End quote.

[latent obsidian]

I like that quote

[dense cedar]

The situation is, she's in a room, the objective door is in that room, said objective door is a 'Motion triggered door' Meaning opening that door is very loud.

Being very loud will probably awaken the mother

and nobody feels fancy about the idea of dancing with her while clearing said door.

[latent obsidian]

Why not take her out and then do the door?

[dense cedar]

Thats the plan.

We just need a method to execute said plan

Tho nooow we dooo.

[latent obsidian]

Cfoam will surely make it foolproof, but if you find yourself without enough to gum her up you might be surprised at how fast she goes down under focus fire, as she will stay still at the start to try and give birth

Best of luck on your mum slaying adventures though

I'm backseating more than I'm due to

[icy cave]

If you just sneak up, countdown and start blasting, she gon die very fast with the right weapons

[icy cave]

And plz don't shoot the head 😅

[dense cedar]

But it fanni.

[ocean spindle]

theres a nade on the level for a reason its a first encounter let em do it safely

[latent obsidian]

Yes m'lord

[craggy pier]

Try to have someone dedicated on spawn killing the small strikers, and the other 3 just focus on killing her.

Just don't panic if she survives and runs away

next thing to do is, kill any small strikers left, fog rep if you really need to (the fog she does isn't infective), biotracker her, keep trying to destroy her bubbles

To make it short it's not like not killing her asap is a death sentence

[icy cave]

why you give them the ez strat 😔

[latent obsidian]

small strikers 🤨

[icy cave]

he hates babies

[craggy pier]

big strikers, strikers, small strikers

In my head it's ordered

[latent obsidian]

fair enough, never heard them called that before

[turbid horizon]

i just call them children

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vague bridge]

my team does her a lot more flexible

[ocean spindle]

i call em smols

[vague bridge]

mainly because its 2 bots and 2 people

[craggy pier]

not to be annoying but don't you only play with "hollow"

[vague bridge]

yes

[craggy pier]

I even remember you two having matching avatars

nice

[latent obsidian]

whats wrong with "hollow"?

[ocean spindle]

hehe when i tried three bots i ran out of ammo and just chased her with my bat

:]

[vague bridge]

when was this

[vague bridge]

_ _

[turbid horizon]

I managed it with 3 bots

[ocean spindle]

no yeah i killed her with melee KMSKDM

[craggy pier]

since it's a word I didn't want it to get confused by it being also a name? is it unpolite? didnt mean to

[turbid horizon]

dum

:3

[craggy pier]

A long time ago? 2 gift packages?

[latent obsidian]

Sorry wasn't picking on the quotes but just wondering why you brought it up

[craggy pier]

Maybe I'm misremembering

[turbid horizon]

I would've loved to see a video of that

[vague bridge]

wow how long have i been in this server

[ocean spindle]

yeah wish i recorded it skmdk

[turbid horizon]

benny hill theme going while slendy chases mom with bat

[ocean spindle]

november 15 so about 5 months or so

[vague bridge]

but yes hollow is the only guy i really play with

[craggy pier]

to be fair I don't know either

I didnt mean to offend eh

[vague bridge]

we have 2 other people who own the game but neither of them play it

[latent obsidian]

feels bad

[ocean spindle]

hah

[vague bridge]

we have matchmaked once for r2e1 and basically got carried

i enjoy the difficulty uptick

[soft crater]

Die together

[ocean spindle]

or get carried together

[soft crater]

Or die together

[spark wolf]

it only takes one

the game just suck

so many times it wont work

[fierce nebula]

dying

[lunar rain]

Is there anyway to make shadows easier to see in settings?

[turbid horizon]

up the shadow quality

[latent obsidian]

Increase shadow resolution

[lunar rain]

It’s that’s simple?

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[lunar rain]

I feel dumb now

[turbid horizon]

it sounds dumb tbf'

[main dagger]

do you need to play levels in order? or could I jump over say R2B1 straight to R2B2

[latent obsidian]

the game puts some limitations on what you can host based on what you've cleared, but you are able to join any lobby for any level if you are invited

[main dagger]

would the level count for me if I did jump a level?

or would I have to unlock its prerequisites to make it count

[latent obsidian]

It would count for you

[main dagger]

interesting

[icy cave]

It would count. but you would have to join people who unlocked the later levels until you go back and do R2B1

you would remain unable to host

[main dagger]

alright, thanks

[icy cave]

No problem m8. Luckily R2B1 is just 15 minutes. so it won't be such a slog to come back and finish it

[vague bridge]

can iix syringe steroid me enough to kill a sleeping giant charger

[ocean spindle]

fifteen minutes

i took like 45

30 my best runs

[icy cave]

Bruh HOW

[latent obsidian]

yes, in the back

[vague bridge]

oh sweet

[latent obsidian]

wait

[ocean spindle]

CROUCHIN SKDMK

[latent obsidian]

I think they have 120 hp right

Let me double check

[vague bridge]

it is such a scary thought to shank a big guy

bianhua will be easy

[icy cave]

R2B1 is two blood doors and One alarm. like bruv

[ocean spindle]

yeah by that time i didnt know i could melee a giant so i just didnt kill shit

and i just search for the things like i could

[icy cave]

Oh well

[ocean spindle]

at the end i was so low health on the final thing i had to open it and run away

[latent obsidian]

Huh I don't actually see the stats for giant charger, but I presume its the same as a giant striker

[icy cave]

I said 15 min to be conservative. it took us just 10

[icy cave]

wiki does not have them?

[latent obsidian]

oh wiki probs does

I normally use spreadsheet

[ocean spindle]

120

it is 120 hp

[latent obsidian]

okay good

[ocean spindle]

also why does the wiki says spear is the worst againts big dudes?
doesnt spear charge at the same time as hammer?

also wouldnt range help?

[icy cave]

Hammer charges faster

[latent obsidian]

apparently it takes longer

[ocean spindle]

really? above knife?

[latent obsidian]

but saying its worst against them is a bit wack

[icy cave]

So Spear does not even have THAT

[ocean spindle]

i guess knife its easier cause of course the stagger u do with it its amazin

[latent obsidian]

knife is not easier xD

I like ragging on the spear but its fine at dealing with a giant

[ocean spindle]

spear i would argue its better than bat

[latent obsidian]

maybe not in stealth but eh

[tardy ingot]

Spear is definetly better vs giants than bat

but the spear is also astronomically worse vs smalls than bat

[ocean spindle]

no yeah im talkin bigs

[tardy ingot]

bring back spear multihits

[ocean spindle]

the big strategy page in the wiki

[tardy ingot]

wiki isnt perfect

[ocean spindle]

im not talkin smalls cause thats super obv

[ocean spindle]

no yeah its- dude ksmdk

ik im bein nitpicky and what not but

i just found the page and found it weird :]

thats it

[tardy ingot]

you could always edit it if its definetly wrong

[ocean spindle]

ah no i need to share my ip or create a fandom account
and i just hate both options

ill porb just mention it in wiki chat at some point

[craggy pier]

Guys how do i be good at gtfo

[ocean spindle]

bonk

[white merlin]

I would answer but i'm thrash as of right now

hopefully someone answer that so i can learn aswell

[craggy pier]

🥹

[turbid horizon]

Burst canc-

[craggy pier]

True!

[dry pumice]

Abandon shift button, aim for the head, don't spend too much time in fog.

[dense cedar]

Status update : The Mother is dead.

o7 thank you lads.

[ocean spindle]

BRAVOO

[latent obsidian]

nice one

[brave sapphire]

Is it there a way to get discord to notify on specific text people send in chat? I.e. someone posts an lfg for r7d1... could I get a notification for that only?

[latent obsidian]

Don't think so

Its possible there is some script online that can do something like it but who knows

[mossy aurora]

tryna snipe them egirl lobbies?

[latent obsidian]

Got to get more monitors so you can watch all lfg channels at once for the egirls

[brave sapphire]

I don't know what egirls are ya damn kidz

[latent obsidian]

I figure its like hatsune miku or something

[brave sapphire]

Is that Turkish

[latent obsidian]

I think so yeah

If you want to run R7D1 why not just post your own lobby though?

[brave sapphire]

Laziness and more efficient use of my own time

[latent obsidian]

I see

[fierce nebula]

LFG (EGIRLS ONLY)

[vital sierra]

the game do have in-game voice

[cerulean totem]

Can I kill a Scout with the Hel gun shot to the occiput?

[solemn flint]

it should be enough i think so

[cerulean totem]

It worked 😄

[solemn flint]

it have more damage than precision rifle, and if i remember correctly that gun work on scout

[minor fractal]

The precision multis are completely different. HEL Gun can't face shot scouts (although you can spam it fast enough to two-shot), but PR can.

[solemn flint]

but techniclly hel gun still work

its just harder to work

and it should work if aim at the back of the head

[mossy aurora]

it does, but your reasoning is wrong. "hel gun has more damage than precision rifle, therefore it can also kill scouts" isn't entirely accurate because of the different precision multipliers

[solemn flint]

how diffrent is the precision bonus?

[mossy aurora]

according to this spreadsheet, hel gun multi is 0.8 and precision rifle is 1.3

[solemn flint]

uhmm

is my math wrong

how do u calculate the damage

[latent obsidian]

damage to the scout is gun damage * precision multi * scout head/occiput multi

[solemn flint]

now im confuse

how does the precision multi work?

im really bad at math now

[minor fractal]

How do you think it works?

[latent obsidian]

if you hit a weakpoint you multiply the result with the precision multi

weakpoint is head or tumours pretty much

[solemn flint]

u take the damage of a gun+ precision bonus damage

is that correct

[minor fractal]

No, lol.

It's a multiplier, not a flat bonus

[latent obsidian]

the clue is in the name 😅

[minor fractal]

Sniper precision isn't +40, it's 2x

[solemn flint]

im a delicious potato ok

[mossy aurora]

hel gun damage to scout head : 16.25 (gun damage ) * 0.8 (precision multi) * 3 (scout headshot multi) = 39 damage
precision rifle damage to scout head: 11.40 * 1.3 * 3 = 44.46

scout has 42 hp

[solemn flint]

hmm

ok

hel gun deal less damage than i think

[latent obsidian]

Maybe you mean damage to the scout in this scenario but if you are wording it like that its misleading

the hel gun has higher base damage

[minor fractal]

^ Body shots on PR blow.

[mossy aurora]

if PR base damage was 16 would it be useable

[minor fractal]

Body shots on HEL Gun blow through

I'm unironically not sure.

If precision stayed the same, it would be kind of cracked on bosses.

[solemn flint]

how?

im really confuse with the precision stuff

[minor fractal]

You know how bosses have crit spots/weak points that you shoot to do damage?

[solemn flint]

yup

wait, does the damage scale with that

[minor fractal]

Yes? What do you mean by that.

[mossy aurora]

it would 3 shot tank tumors and 2 shot mom tumors lol

[minor fractal]

All of the damage you do to bosses is always modified by the precision multiplier, because you can only ever damage tank/mom via crit spots.

[solemn flint]

i though you can only deal base damage in weak spot

[minor fractal]

That's actually not as crazy an improvement as I thought, doesn't it already 4-shot tank tumors?

Or is it a 5-shot?

[minor fractal]

No, it's a crit, therefore it counts for the precision multi.

[mossy aurora]

4 shot if my math is correct

[solemn flint]

and boss have a ton of armor in not weak spot place

[minor fractal]

Tumors/bubbles act as head shots.

[solemn flint]

that explain alot actually

idk why normal mom die so fast on r3b2

though that they have 1000 hp

[latent obsidian]

agreed, and looks like it isn't even too far away from 3 shot. A 13% special boost would do it

[minor fractal]

Tumor damage multi is 5x iirc.

3x on Tank

[solemn flint]

that is a freck load of damage multiply

[mossy aurora]

yep, a freck load

[craggy pier]

damage inflation

someone call the damage police

[tardy ingot]

petition to lower x5 to x2 multi ?

[latent obsidian]

Yes, and lower its health accordingly

[tardy ingot]

nah

it just gonna be TONKY

[fierce nebula]

wouldn't it be 1.8? otherwise it lowers the damage 🤔

[latent obsidian]

bear in mind the weakspot multiplier still

values lower than 1 just stop critical hits being super good, or rather allow the body shot damage to be better while keeping hs damage the same

[fierce nebula]

ahhh

[minor fractal]

The vast majority of weapons have precision multis that are less than 1.0

Bullpup, Sniper, PR, Shotgun, and Choke Mod are the only exceptions, and Sniper and PR are the only weapons with precision multipliers greater than 1.0

[dry pumice]

Pistol?...

[latent obsidian]

pistol is 0.87 looks like

[craggy pier]

the negative crit multis are purely for stunting smalls breakpoints

[minor fractal]

It can buff breakpoints as well if you'd get low overkill damage on the head.

[craggy pier]

interesting point

[past mesa]

Negative crit values aren’t a thing

[latent obsidian]

Imagine shooting the enemy in the head and healing them

[craggy pier]

negative meaning reducing damage aka less than x1.0

you knew what I meant

[winged turtle]

when are we getting a support secondary weapon that heals enemies and allies on hit.

[dry pumice]

Im not sure how useful that would be

Pretty much all of gameplay is built around just not taking damage at all

So why bother

[winged turtle]

oh if it was pushed enough to be useful, it would be busted. any reasonable balance on it would make it ass and unusable.

[dry pumice]

Exactly