gtfo-related-questions

[tepid sand]

Honestly felt like C1 was easier than all B levels besides B1

Up to personal experience

[wanton frigate]

I didn't even realize there are multiple objectives lol

[icy cave]

B1 is super easy wdym ???

[tepid sand]

Oops - I meant the other way around

[wanton frigate]

do you think it's a better idea to go thru all the yellows first and then go back or will that make the earlier non yellows feel too easy in comparison

[icy cave]

not all levels, but click one it will tell you if it has multiple

[tepid sand]

B1 was easier than C1 but B2 and B3 are harder than C1

[icy cave]

I thought B2 was on par with B1 actually, its just longer

[tepid sand]

But then, I only did all objectives - never ran through main alone

[icy cave]

same :p

[tepid sand]

Nah B1 is definitely easier by a factor of 10 compared to B2

B3 PE is fun

B3 PE is harder than C1 though for sure

[icy cave]

yeah absolutely

B3PE is super fun tho, you are right

[wanton frigate]

where do you see the other objectives listed? When I click on any of the missions I only see one

unless I'm looking in the wrong place

[icy cave]

click on B3

[tepid sand]

You can see them in game or in the rundown

It will say specifics on the level

[cobalt pollen]

some missions only have 1

some have 2

some have 3

[tepid sand]

Listed in the order of Main, Secondary, and Overload

With symbols

[icy cave]

if he clicks on B3 he will see it. 🙂

[wanton frigate]

oh I see, it doesn't say what the mission is, just that they're there

[cobalt pollen]

yea

[wanton frigate]

thanks!

[icy cave]

yeah

[icy cave]

no problem man

[wanton frigate]

3 players w/ a bot or just 3 players by themselves?

for the better experience

[floral acorn]

bot biotracker. mwah.

[dusky tiger]

Sometimes he starts scanning in the worst time which is fairly funny

Or frustrating

But its worth it

[halcyon crater]

how do you kill the scouts from stealth? Can you not one shot them in the head with melee

[cobalt pollen]

full hammer to the head

less if occiput

[halcyon crater]

Thanks

[mossy aurora]

if you're using bat or knife you need to hit the back of the head with a full charge, front of the head wont kill them

[wanton frigate]

if enemies are in that pulsing / convulsing state and no one moves is there a chance they wake up?

we seem to be alerting enemies without moving and are confused why they're waking up

crouching, not moving, flashlights off

[dusky tiger]

Desync

The glow/convulsions prob showed up later for other players but they kept moving thinking it was fine

Which is really fucking annoying

[wanton frigate]

is that a common issue? really makes it feel like it's just up to luck whether or not we can clear rooms quietly

[dusky tiger]

Not really(atleast for me)
Depends on distance and connections with the host iirc

But I could be wrong
So I'm sorry if that's the case

[vital sierra]

only happen if the person have massive ping

[tranquil dagger]

Was there any news during gamescom if GTFO was going to do something about the matchmaking issues?

[ruby wasp]

lol no

[icy cave]

😂

It's LFG or suffering m8

[tranquil dagger]

Dangit lol

Why do they still have it as a feature

[dry pumice]

Supposedly because too many steam reviews were like:
"

online coop
no matchmaking
Conclusion: game bad.
"

Now they don't have an excuse anymore, they'll have to actually criticise it in depth and everyone too lazy for that.

[tranquil dagger]

That's fair but still just hate goin through lfg

Too used to matchmaking like most of the world cause me like being lazi

[dry pumice]

Yeah, I know... Had to go through that phase too.

But it's either that or effectively dead game in the library.

[tranquil dagger]

I guess I'm just more aware of it? But I'd use the shit out of the LFG back in D1

I was like 14 at the time

[gritty bough]

do the bots utilize thermal vision in any way or should I be using a different weapon for them?

i've always been running assault rifle and heavy assault rifle on them and it seems to work

[dapper compass]

Bots cheat at whatever they're doing, when they don't bug out

[icy cave]

Bots shoot through fog and darkness as if it is not there. whatever weapon you give them

[gritty bough]

okay thanks

[viral sleet]

Hello everyone, returning player here, I wanted to ask if I did the A1 and A2 rundown in the past, should I do them again now? I heard they changed a lot

[clever blade]

Is there a way to kill the scouts without making alot of noise?

[craggy pier]

Bonk

Full hammer charge to the head (assuming normal scout), if you're from the sides/behind them, try either aiming a bit higher or jumping before the bonk

[clever blade]

ok thanks

[icy cave]

Every rundown, it's completely new missions. So current A1 (R7A1) is a mission you never played and this rundown (R7) has no A2

[vital sierra]

he's asking about old rundown coming back

[icy cave]

Not sure, seems to me there is a misunderstanding of the rundown system

[viral sleet]

Thanks a lot ! Did A1 again and its awesome

[icy cave]

No problem man

[icy cave]

Pls read your last comment back on gtfo spoiler chat 😏

[vital sierra]

prove my point

[icy cave]

update counter please 😂

[vital sierra]

no

it's better it at 69420

[icy cave]

😏

[candid ingot]

how do i join a friend lobby?

[icy cave]

stand naked in your room, make a lot of noise, when someone comes to look wtf is going on scream at them: GTFO!

you will be in your friends lobby by then

Or you know: steam invite

[fierce nebula]

"whats a Steam?"

well my good sir

steamed hams

[rigid sinew]

Reject humanity, return to sleeper

[viral flax]

lvl D1 how to use knife kill mother does anybody know

[fierce nebula]

lots and lots of c-foam

[viral flax]

ty@fierce nebula

[dusky tiger]

Knife killing a mother

We will reconvene in 20 years

[icy cave]

knife kill a mother, you won't have enough c - foam man 😅

[dusky tiger]

Hammer would work tho right?

Cuz from my experience with meleeing tanks
A fully charged hammer hit or 2 pops a tumour

[steady hearth]

That sounds correct. My friend and I had to melee a tank to death on R6 D1

[viral flax]

WE CAN KILL 1 MOTHER WITH C-F AND Hammer

[icy cave]

with hammer yes

[full sundial]

@icy cave do bots shoot shadows that aren't pinged also? haven't tested that

[icy cave]

Not sure, I mostly play without bots

[full sundial]

me too, but saw you answer a question about bots in this chat, so thought I'd ask you

maybe someone will see this question and have an answer

[dusky tiger]

I think they only shoot em when pinged

Atleast from my experience

[weary mesa]

If there is an enemy in the way it'll shoot that one so yes

Like how it will shoot you if you get in it's way

[tired pilot]

how long is each level of the rundown? like, I wanna play B1 rn but idk if i have hours of time available

[icy cave]

need more info: how many players, knowledge of the game etc etc ?

[tired pilot]

full group, played 2 or 3 matches so far. can use terminals etc. estimate? 1 hour, 2?

[worthy siren]

B1 if you play slow is 1 hour to 40minutes

[icy cave]

pretty much. with a full team, 1 hour. 1.5 hour tops for a first try

[icy cave]

so there you go

[tiny laurel]

when i get downed i cant use the e key for anything any way to fix this

[worthy siren]

That's a bug just restart your game and that'll fix it

[bold atlas]

Any load out recommendations for C2

[noble sierra]

One of a each kind works well. Many team prefer second sentry over mine/c-foam.

[dusky tiger]

C-foam
2 sentries
Bio(I swapped that with mine sometimes)

[full sundial]

why c foam on that expedition, C2?

[noble sierra]

Make 2nd/3rd ventaliation easier and make overload easier

[bold atlas]

sniper turrets?

[dusky tiger]

Hm

I ran 2 bursts

Lasted me longer

[dusky tiger]

Overload sector.exe

[bold atlas]

ogeii ty

[dusky tiger]

Good luck

[mossy aurora]

charger scouts as well

[viscid wolf]

I would only ever run sniper

they a tad bit broken

[bold atlas]

XDD sniper religion

[viscid wolf]

sniper sentry I mean

bio buff pushes it through the roof

[gentle oyster]

How do I get the robot leg?

[weary mesa]

Random

[dusky tiger]

Sniper sentry is amazing and overall the best

For c2 I just find double burst to have a longer hmm

To last longer
Y

double sniper d2 feelsgoodman

[rare leaf]

whats a good tool setup for D1, just like 3 turrets+bio?

[dapper compass]

if you want to do the ||Class X charger alarm|| yes it will work, else take a C-Foam launcher ||for all the chargers scouts|| and 2 turret + bio

[icy cave]

D1 is no fun if you are not saying hi to mom and dad

[dapper compass]

I like saying hi to them, not on overload runs tho

We're on a timer, and it's not about expending resources on Snatchers, we're super fine

it's about "when will the run kills itself for everyone due to bugs"

[icy cave]

We ran overload with going into mom AND dad. it took 1.5 hours and honestly it was very very doable, we were stocked on ammo all the time. The side zones have so many resources !

[icy cave]

And ofc we did Error as well

[dapper compass]

Yeah as I said it's not a resource issue

The room starts disappearing, flashlight doesn't follow you, one guy crashes, one guy becomes allergic to terminals, chaos ensures

[icy cave]

Ah the famous D1 bugs

[arctic spruce]

am stuck between wanting to find out myself and asking

nvm ill find out through pain

[icy cave]

?

[arctic spruce]

asked a question about R7B3 but decided i didnt want the answer

[hollow pollen]

does the new event have a gasmask cosmetic or is it just color + vest, pants and backpack?

[verbal zinc]

No mask

[hollow pollen]

oki cool

[icy cave]

Ok 👍

[arctic spruce]

is it possible to farm cosmetics or no?

[dry pumice]

Nope. You only get the ones for completion milestones and that's it. Once you've done all Mains, Secondaries and Overloads at least once (PE not required) - that's it, you're done with this rundown.

[arctic spruce]

Ah shiii aight ty, really hope I can get the mask I want then 🫡

[icy cave]

May RNG be on your side

[rich flicker]

how can you get through rooms (like c1) that have 3 scouts on diffirent locations?

[wooden osprey]

kill the scouts

easy

[rich flicker]

like

theres a big guy right there

and they can get thier long arms and get alerted

[wooden osprey]

kill the big guy later

[dry pumice]

you can sync-kill the big guy

or just cfoam him

[rich flicker]

the problem is the scouts

[dry pumice]

cfoam them instead then, then just SMACK on the head

spear, hammer, or bat with 20% damage booster

also you dont have to kill anything

you in the zone 23, right? to turn off fog?

just find the terminal and get out

[rich flicker]

ok

[icy cave]

or even easier full charge bonk them with the hammer on the head. scout ded

[full sundial]

oh yeah, forgot about the charger scouts, cleared that zone with a guy I met on LFG just by timing it and hitting them in the back together, since we didn't bring c foam lol, but now I know it's possible with the right partner

but most teams, yeah, take the c foam too, I got lucky that we got the hang of it pretty fast

[dusky tiger]

Damn
I still havent gotten a sync kill on a charger scout yet

I have shamed the sledge

[sonic ocean]

question regarding the soon ending event
Can i run A1 a bunch of times before it ends in a few hours to get more stuff or similar to rundown cosmetics is it 1 per mission?

[cobalt pollen]

you can run the same stage

[sonic ocean]

Nice

[sonic bolt]

I've completed 9 expeditions and still dont have bone relic pallete color for the event

[spark wolf]

bone relic isn't from the event

[sonic bolt]

oh

i only got one pallete color tho

i thought it was two

[cobalt pollen]

you're supposed to get the crimson

[dry pumice]

yeah, bone relic in the preview image had me confused too

but it's literally just an example of what you can do with that camo set

unfortunately majority of colour scehemes do not have the same profound effect

[craggy pier]

yo, i believe im missing a default helmet, can anyone help?

[rigid sinew]

how can you miss a default helmet lol

there is literally only 1

[old oasis]

could anyone help me learn the game?

[plucky jacinth]

Bots are still broken for R7C2...

Impossible to solo with bots. They refuse to enter the scans!

[floral acorn]

most likely a sentry is very close to the scan circle, and bots avoid sentries like plague

[plucky jacinth]

Tried no sentry run

[floral acorn]

.. yum, toes munch munch

would like to know the logic of no-scan-bots sometimes, our worst was in r6dx, few rare cases in r7 and The Sentry One

[dusky tiger]

Yea,in dx the bots would refuse to stand in the first scan

God bless triple sentries tho,made up for their stupidity till they decided to scan

[neon gust]

Happenes in a lot of levels too, always was curious about that bug

I assume its just that some scans are coded differently in game and they refuse to enter them sometimes (kind of like extraction scans) but if that would the case it would reproducible

[rigid sinew]

as far as I understand, it can be caused by bots getting stuck into wanting to enter a scan, but being unable to find it...or something along those line

[past mesa]

I think it is probably a path finding issue with the bots because they go to like the standard formation away from the person they are folllowing.

[rigid sinew]

literal workaround is to just make the bots follow you completely out of the room and back while the scan is active lol

[past mesa]

Yeah probs path finding tbh

I just despawn then respawn them

[hybrid solar]

are enemys alerted when you C-foam them and they start to defrost?

[icy cave]

If you hit them in the meantime, yes iir c

If you let them without touching them I think they stay asleep

Not entirely sure cause when I foam em I wack em

[noble sierra]

No

[fierce nebula]

well scouts don't wake up if the c-foam melts

[icy cave]

They do if you hit it but did not kill it

[fierce nebula]

yeah but if you didn't hit all they just go about

[icy cave]

I thought so as well yeah. 👍

[fierce nebula]

good to know to kill fully before c foam melt ;3

[noble sierra]

Sleepers do become bio tracker ping-able after being foamed.

[icy cave]

Probably intended

[hybrid solar]

allright thanks

[soft crater]

Sleeper: Gets foamed
Also sleeper: freed from foam I go back to sleep

[dapper compass]

Foamed sleepers:
-Considered alerted (knife stealth multiplier is disabled, biotracker can ping)
-If attacked, they will fully wake up after the foam wears off
-Else they will go back to sleep
-They can be refoamed

[soft crater]

me who permafoamed a striker on A1 because I could

[icy cave]

Meaby he liked it 😏

OR he was so mad he was foaming from the mouth.

[fierce nebula]

foaming from his ass

[soft crater]

[icy cave]

bruh keep that between you and your (probably 2D) partner. Thank you

[obsidian surge]

can i get sum help on the D1 alarm. why is it soo long?

[noble sierra]

Take a look at objective messages in your HUD, the expedition provides two side objectives if you find tackling class X alarms is too much.

[obsidian surge]

oh its supposed to be that hard? bruhhhhhhh

but does it unlock the main objective immediately?

[noble sierra]

Doing class X is a direct way to progress main objective, you can detour and do the optional objective to progress main ignoring class X alarms.

[obsidian surge]

i c is it an error alarm?

cause i saw a video of someone soling that alarm

[noble sierra]

Error alarm route leads you to one of the side objective to shut down the shadow class X, yes

[obsidian surge]

i c

also i see ppl like crouching and running at the same time

why is that

[noble sierra]

I believe you're talking about "sliding" which is a mechanic provided by game. Pre R6 sliding boosts your speed a tiny bit, since R6 sliding technically doesn't make you faster but you consume less stamina when sliding while keep the same velocity of sprint. Also sliding allows you to perform several actions that's prohibited during sprint like reload/shoot so can become an advanced moving mechanics.

[obsidian surge]

oh very cul

any particular key bindings to do it?

[noble sierra]

You can do it using default key bindings, just tap crouch during sprint. If you don't feel comfortable just switch to whatever key/button you like.

[obsidian surge]

aites

[obsidian surge]

has anyone ever killed an immortal?

[tacit zealot]

It would take ingame weeks, no , hammering the immortal 100.000.000 times

[real raptor]

||They have way too much hp, which makes it impossible to kill them||

[obsidian surge]

bruv

[real raptor]

Well, there is a way to kill them

technically

[cobalt pollen]

well based on calculations you would need...

44 million melee hits from a max charge spear

this doesnt factor in the armor yet

[real raptor]

Better get to swinging

I don't think it even does any damage either way, right?

[cobalt pollen]

it does, but it gets negated to the point where it deals virtually nil

so like

yes but technically no

[noble sierra]

It's technically yes but no

[cobalt pollen]

yno

[real raptor]

yno

[fierce nebula]

yno

[soft crater]

When hammer would've done more damage but use spear

[cobalt pollen]

precision

[soft crater]

Pablo has no precision

[cobalt pollen]

math was done with precision in mind

[soft crater]

That's tumors

[cobalt pollen]

if you want no precision just multiply the hits with 13/10

[soft crater]

When the hacker just taps pablo with knife and he dies

[cobalt pollen]

havent seen any cheater that killed pablo yet

[wary linden]

seen some

Generally result in Them being called out and the lobby disband

[fierce nebula]

there was the one earlier who completed every level but E1 in one day

died to pablo

[soft crater]

Really sucks the best they can do is potentially ban (if it even happens) from discord

Doesnt even record recently played with on steam

[icy cave]

Ask the hacker in gtfo chat

[fierce nebula]

Klas Henriksson ^^^

[mental thorn]

Hello I've been thinking about buying the game but I don't how lively the servers are so can you give me some information ?

[dry pumice]

Check local LFG channels and see how often they get new posts.

Ingame mm is worthless.

It's fairly lively IMHO. Squads fill up relatively quickly.

[soft crater]

likelihood of finding a match there Is very small. And even then you have increased chances of finding hackers in Matchmaking

[mental thorn]

hmm

[soft crater]

Majority and old experienced players have always used the discord LFGs

[spark wolf]

misinformation

[mental thorn]

LFG is simply not for me I'm afraid

[spark wolf]

matchmaking 24/7

[mental thorn]

I wanted to play the game with complete strangers and experience the diffficulty of communicating and hardships the game has got

[soft crater]

Imean it's the same with discord LFG just not automated in-game

However in terms of experience. You'll probably wanna find other new players

Otherwise a group of friends if you have them

[mental thorn]

lel

If I've had a group of friends that would play the game with me I would not have a problem but as I most likely will play the game solo (or with the matchmaking) , I wondered how was the game's current status

[fierce nebula]

in-game MM is just chaotic
LFG is quite friendly and you'll still find the hardships of playing with randoms

[dapper compass]

LFG is like matchmaking but better
LFG doesn't mean you find a permanent group, it's only for one mission, but then you can decide whether or not you want to play with the same people again for a different mission

LFG is what you are looking for, as long as you group up with new players like you

Making an LFG post that reflects that should provide the experience you are looking for

[spark wolf]

i will not fall for your propaganda

lfg has cheaters too

[icy cave]

Statistically less than MM

[spark wolf]

you don't play matchmaking

so you don't have statistics

maybe you got unlucky

[icy cave]

once in a while for a laugh. Altho that laugh soon dissappears.

[icy cave]

It's also pure logic

[spark wolf]

fake

[icy cave]

Ofc

[fierce nebula]

but yeah LFG doesn't mean the people you find there are permanent

your choice if you want to keep playing with them or not, and vice versa with them

[soft crater]

[narrow goblet]

Am i missing something in C2

there arent enough cells for all the gens or am i supposed to do them in a weird order

did i just softlock myself out of overload

[dapper compass]

one of the generator hides a cell behind, it's meant to be optional but required to get the bulkhead key

[narrow goblet]

I see the last cell in 303

but i need the cell to unlock 303

[dapper compass]

Basically you have 8 cells and 8 generators
2 cells per main area (3), for the 6 generators
but in the first area, you have a generator to go in the side area that will get you back a cell but also contains the bulkhead key
then within overload you need to bring a cell to get into the objective area, and it will give you back the cell again

The idea is that you have to take a detour and tank fog to be able to run Overload

[tepid sand]

sounds like you softlocked yourself out

you’re not supposed to put all 6 cells into the generator before doing overload

overload requires a cell to operate the door

[narrow goblet]

time to off myslef and hope the checkpoints are kind i guess

[tepid sand]

you put in a cell to go through overload and receive a cell afterwards i.e you trade off like you do for the first cell to obtain bulkhead

[fierce nebula]

doing overload you only put 5 in and just RUSH

[narrow goblet]

yeah cus i thought

SURELY the devs let me vent the area and then i go for overload

they wouldnt make me do a overload in fog right?

[wooden karma]

:)

[tepid sand]

that’s how it’s intended to be done actually

[narrow goblet]

What a wonderful game

[cobalt pollen]

you can just do overload during cell 5/6 instead of 3/4 so you dont have to deal with fog and waves

[narrow goblet]

i uh

didnt know that

you can put in 5 cells to drain the fog

[icy cave]

Bug due to restarting at Checkpoint. the legit way is in the fog

[narrow goblet]

oh

well now i feel bad

jk fuck this fog man

[spark wolf]

its always morally correct to abuse the bugs

[narrow goblet]

now i have to figure out a warp gate

wew

[icy cave]

Did you forget overload?

[narrow goblet]

No i did it?

the 3 doodads

i have to go to camp alpha 6 now right?

[icy cave]

You put in last cell?

[narrow goblet]

yeah all 6 after i got the three thing

every gen is powered

[icy cave]

Do the scan

[narrow goblet]

Way ahead of that

it would be nice if the game told me i had to look for the matter wave device

or if it was listed on a terminal but you know

[icy cave]

aaaah you are in sec

tbf the game says

[narrow goblet]

No?

[icy cave]

AND it is listed in terminals

at least it was in R6

[narrow goblet]

I promise you it wasnt

List zone_290

right?

[dapper compass]

List matter

[icy cave]

ping matter_wave_projector

or query

or list

[narrow goblet]

yeah but it shouldve appeared in the full list

[icy cave]

also pretty sure the objective says something about the matter as soon as you get in secondary

[dapper compass]

there's a teleport pad

unless you haven't played R6 you know you'll need one

[narrow goblet]

if you look in #gtfo-media

I only knew cus i saw the socket thing on the pad so i looked for shiny

[icy cave]

what if it is not in 290?

did you open the blood door?

[narrow goblet]

oh my lord

[icy cave]

?

[narrow goblet]

yeah

so it was in zone 291

[icy cave]

😂

[dapper compass]

go go go

[narrow goblet]

STILL

It didnt tell me to look for it

[icy cave]

that is why you always ffin query

[icy cave]

pretty sure it says under progression, I think I had the text

as soon as I entered sec

[narrow goblet]

Not for me i guess

[icy cave]

Meaby I 'm wrong

have not done C2 this week yet

Anyways open the blood door and get that thing 😅

[narrow goblet]

Wish i had infection boosters man

with all the fog and the screaming zits

[dapper compass]

Happens sometimes, game not giving info

[narrow goblet]

I like how even though its harder over all, the later expeditions have easier

[spark wolf]

underwhelming

C3 coulda been a good prisoner efficiency but they turned the lights off

and they used those tiles with the required ladders

[dapper compass]

Required ladders?

Like the small ones ?

[rigid sinew]

massive copium

[latent lance]

if you shoot stuff why does it not die

[narrow goblet]

You can just jump on the pipes and then up instead of using the ladders no?

[cursive sentinel]

Does prisoner efficiency give apparel?

[floral acorn]

nope, only main sec ovl

[cursive sentinel]

ty

[narrow goblet]

Where in gods name is z457 in E1

[noble sierra]

It's to the west of the first stealth zone (2 charger scouts & 1 mom)

[narrow goblet]

Do you know what room it connects to?

zone*

[noble sierra]

Z451

[narrow goblet]

I love you

but now it says z422 but theres nothing here

[noble sierra]

There's no Z422 in E1

[narrow goblet]

ok so turns out the hud lied to me but there was a nav beacon that saved me

[noble sierra]

It's likely you just misread..

[narrow goblet]

No the objective thing said go to z422 which is spawn but then i saw the evac beacon at z559

But at that point the audio in my game was glitching so i dunno

[noble sierra]

Spawn is Z442, though

[narrow goblet]

Im going to re install my game

[minor fractal]

Fam, that's vanilla problems.

[bold atlas]

C2 is so hard,,,,

everyone just rushes u at the end in the desert

hAHHA

h o w

[wooden karma]

shoot em

[shell tiger]

Hi everyone! I've been trying out the pistol and the Hel revolver, and I like the pistol better by a fair amount.

Pistol has 1 shot stagger on chargers, 1 hs + 2 cs for a striker kill, 5 strikers per mag (if I land them all), great hipfire accuracy, able to shoot in quick succession, isnt too punishing when I miss.

Hel revolver also has 1 shot stagger on chargers, 2 shot for striker kill, 4 strikers per mag, pretty good hipfire accuracy, recoil makes it kinda hard to shoot multiple, kinda sad when I miss.

However, it seems like the consensus is that the Hel revolver is better than the pistol.

What am I missing on the Hel revolver that makes it better than the pistol? Is it that I just need to get good and miss less? Is it the range? Is it better at bigger targets?

[mossy aurora]

it can penetrate and hit multiple enemies

[shell tiger]

I feel like that doesnt really come up too often. And it only penetrates one, isnt it?

[noble sierra]

Hel revolver is already good when not penetrating anything, so any penetration hit is just bonus and you can deliberately align your shot by learning the map.

But as you said, it's not like any primary weapon is extremely superior than others

You can stick with pistol if you like it, and the best (primary) weapon is the weapon you use best

[dusky tiger]

With the mystical art of leaving everyone else as bait while u go slam the command at the end of the desert

[shell tiger]

Yep, I know the best weapon is the one I'm the most used to. I'm just trying to figure out if there is a use case where the HEL Revolver excels, but I just havent encountered it yet

[wooden karma]

any spot that happens to have a long sightline where enemies run straight at you really ramps up the ammo efficiency (due to overpen), also at least for me it drops strikers very reliably with a HS

also its cooler than the pistol

[neon gust]

can you funnel yes/no

if funnel, then Hel

if no funnel then other weapon

You play by the weapons strenght

Hel weaponry penetrates so you want to funnel as much as you can to get the most value

[shell tiger]

Thanks! I'll try a few more runs with it, try to get enemies in a straight line and see how it feels

[clever reef]

Anyone knows what up with D1's command in the end? It said VERIFY_TIMED_CONNECTION in the terminal and it never work for my squad

[icy cave]

Ir gives you a terminal. Find it and do the verify

[clever reef]

yeah we did find the numbered terminal

and we typed in the correct command and it listed as incorrect

[icy cave]

then you get 20 sec to put in another command in the Middle terminal where baby is

[noble sierra]

The HUD lies to you about the command in D1, sadly.

[icy cave]

Type in VER then hit tab, it will autocomplete

[clever reef]

WTF

[noble sierra]

The actual command is different in the terminal, use <tab> to auto-complete or use commands

[icy cave]

With using TAB you always know that you got the correct one

always type VER tho, it needs something to autocomplete 😅

[spark wolf]

the devs didnt abandon the game its just really hard to fix the objective text

[clever reef]

Oof

[soft crater]

Smh. D2 objective text

[tacit zealot]

fun fact, when you beat the reactor in E1, it tells you to go to the start zone, 442, instead of 459, the exist

this is because they literally wrote "0" instead of "1"

[craggy pier]

[tacit zealot]

so everyone's actually cheesing the level

instead of doing the intended way

unbeatable level

[craggy pier]

[floral acorn]

if (exit_tile) { wincondition = 1; }

[tacit zealot]

exactly

hirnu

[floral acorn]

<?php use Unity.Gtfo;

no wait

[tacit zealot]

if you have an exit tile it literally always makes the extraction forward regardless

the wincondition is just to set the objective text

since its too hard to make the wincondiiton literally the same factor that determines if the scan spawns in an exit tile

[floral acorn]

its fun to notice the typos and bugs ~everywhere, [KEY_MAP] is always elevating

[tacit zealot]

, (SECONDARY)

i sent like a dozen of them to calle when E1 dropped

smol indian company

[spark wolf]

smol indian company

[floral acorn]

🇮🇳

[bold atlas]

HAHAHA

[wary linden]

Just deal with both armored fliers... The rest is pretty easy. You can shoot all of the small or just run past them if you stay on the left...

[dry pumice]

Or you can just run n gun shooting those who get too close

[wary linden]

I'm guessing they have ammo issue if they find c2 extreme hard

:p

[dry pumice]

Maybe, who knows

[icy cave]

put on better Nike's and there's even no need to shoot when Entering destination the first time

[soft crater]

C2 Extreme is harder than overload imo

Well C2 Extreme is fun in my case

[wary linden]

1 mom and a couple of fliers is not hard

[soft crater]

Mom is meh.

Particularly the scan section afterwards

But could also just be my group is trash at killing flyers

But regardless that section is fun

[wary linden]

Shooting too hard 🤪

[soft crater]

Also secondary isnt just flyers

[wary linden]

:p

[soft crater]

[wary linden]

It is + a blood door mom

[soft crater]

We're also a 3 man 1 bot

[wary linden]

This doesn't change much

[soft crater]

The dimension section has flyers and sleeper waves no?

[wary linden]

Nope

That is high

It's a "sneak peak" of what extreme is... But it ia tied to high objective

[jolly zenith]

The First Time you go yes the 2th only flyers

[soft crater]

I know that

But you dont go the second time if you dont do extreme

[wary linden]

Yes. So it is tied to high

[soft crater]

Regardless the other dimension scans are part of extreme

[wary linden]

The 1st teleport is tied to finishing the main team scan of generator cluster when powered up. It starts a timer that warps you

[soft crater]

Main obj is only the generator cells. you wont do it otherwise.

[wary linden]

It is not tied to opening the bulkhead of extreme

[spark wolf]

bhop for C2 secondary

easy

[wary linden]

Crouch instead and fight like a man

:)

[spark wolf]

a SLOW man

[soft crater]

Doesnt it warp you once you get a certain distance to extraction?

[spark wolf]

i always finish first

[soft crater]

Or is it just times perfectly to match the timing you get close

[wary linden]

Poor girl

[spark wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M-bmk-9CE1w

[wary linden]

lol

[soft crater]

I know the first teleport happens with main. I mean is that you never do the 2nd teleport unless you do extreme hence the other dimension scan section with waves and flyers

[wary linden]

2nd teleport is ONLY fliers

[soft crater]

They've changed it then

[jolly zenith]

Whut

[wary linden]

Nope. You just bugged the level

[spark wolf]

the first time you get a mix during the run

[cobalt pollen]

its only flyers on second teleport

[spark wolf]

the 2nd time you get fliers only once the stealth scans start

[soft crater]

First teleport we only got waves

2nd we got flyers and waves

[wary linden]

You bugged the level.

[spark wolf]

dont play unintended way!

[soft crater]

Regardless it was harder than intended

[wary linden]

You can bugged the level to a point where the extreme won't be counted even if you finish it

[spark wolf]

ok elitist

[soft crater]

Wesley really gotta be like that

I didnt meant it that way.

Tired when you troll shit like that

But whatever

[wary linden]

Also which way did you do the overload if it was easier then extreme? Only fog or during erorr alarm... Or the fun way.. do everything during the error alarm

[soft crater]

Overload fog

[wary linden]

So the lame way got it

[soft crater]

3 man 1 bot so eh

[jolly zenith]

Bot are op

[wary linden]

Your point about making extreme harder basically just got nullifies by what you did say for overload

[soft crater]

Overload has different ways of doing it so no

[wary linden]

If you pay attention you would notice that the fog rise slower during the error wave portion... So it is highly intended to do overload during that time

And then come back with the infection starting to affect you

[soft crater]

If we had 4man and if our 3rd was up to par. We could do it error way but otherwise we did it just fog

we arent trying to do it error method like R6D3 Overload waking tank room.

Most wouldnt do it Error method anyhow.

[dusky tiger]

C2 extreme was just kill mom and move in circles during the destination scans

Overload was painful cuz spitters

[soft crater]

We had a bug with waves and flyers in the scan section

[dusky tiger]

Bruh wtf

I wouldn't put myself through overload during error alarm

One of those fuckers would get through and scream,alerting the scouts

D3 pe flashbacks

[wary linden]

Still the intended way when you consider everything. The fog rising slower. The cell being at the same location. The room layout making it so that you need to defend else you risk pulling the 2nd part of overload. The astronomical quantity of fog repellers for the way back.

[dusky tiger]

Either works at the end of the day

Get the funny badge and leave

[wary linden]

The other way has everyone at 1 hp... The only reason it is possible is because of how much meds are in the level to begin with

There more then 50 uses of meds in c2

When you only need 4 to go back to 100%... That's a lot of full heal

[soft crater]

Given you have multiple ways of doing it to begin with. Its hit or miss but point is. Most dont do it that way.

[dusky tiger]

One just boils down to
Can you not fuck up stealth and sneak past the spitters

[soft crater]

Spitters are eh

[dusky tiger]

Stealth isnt an issue for us
Its the spitters if they're in a terrible spot

[wary linden]

Like i said. The 2nd way is only possible because of how much meds there are in the level to begin with

[dusky tiger]

Like right above a doorframe with multiple chargers nearby

[dusky tiger]

Sorta,you can save fogs from earlier and do the flyer scan with around 15%

[wary linden]

You do realise that armored fliers spawn there and the alarm is less threatening because they get stuck in walls most of the time right

[dusky tiger]

I've done the pe more than twice so yes?

But they never got stuck for us

[soft crater]

Meh. That way isnt required unless you want a more difficult experience but otherwise I wish overload had more to it besides the pitiful scan/cscouts/chargers

[wary linden]

They get stuck in walls, or trying to even enter the room sometimes 🤣

[soft crater]

Ngl I wish it had a tank or smth

[dusky tiger]

Why would u wish for more suffering

[soft crater]

Because even with error. Just have a team defending back

[wary linden]

It's to drain your ammo

[soft crater]

Just be ammo efficient

Or melee

[wary linden]

Good luck meleeing that one flier that spawns randomly

[dusky tiger]

Just throw your hammer

[wary linden]

When is boomerang a thing

[dusky tiger]

Imagine just chucking a knife for a ranged kill

The London special-ranged variant

[soft crater]

As you've said they get stuck walls and etc there

[wary linden]

Armored ones yes. Normal one no

[soft crater]

Normals can get stuck too

But Ngl shocker getting stuck is funnier

[wary linden]

Not as common since they are smaller and there is plenty of room for them to spawn ok.

Not like spawn alarm where they make them spawn inside props

[soft crater]

At least it isnt giants/Hybrids spawning ontop of boxes and being stuck there

[dusky tiger]

Actually,now that I remember the shocker did get stuck
But not in a wall or floor

It got stuck dead centre above the massive pit in overload
Only once tho

[wary linden]

Yes and this is why your 15% hp thing is still "viable"
Cause the big threat get stuck

[soft crater]

How much hp do shockers have actually?

[wary linden]

Enough to survive 1 sniper sentry shot

[soft crater]

They were never common enough for me to check

Sniper sentry does 45 or smth dmg iirc

[dusky tiger]

I've tried the error route before
Seems fun but I ended up doing the 4 pes the other way

[soft crater]

To the back or eye?

[dapper compass]

48.1, for 150hp

so a little bit of sentry damage can allow them to oneshot shocker

[wary linden]

Both

[dapper compass]

not really worth the booster slot tho

[soft crater]

Hm multi on eye/back

[dapper compass]

x3

[soft crater]

Both 2x?

3x

Breh

[dusky tiger]

Random ass question
How do sniper sentries even kill the big ones from the front when they arent charging

Doesnt the armour reduce the dmg to 0

Or sumthin

[dapper compass]

sentry cheats

[wary linden]

There is a small gap

[craggy pier]

because there's a gap between the armour

[dusky tiger]

The teeth?

[craggy pier]

you can kill it with your own guns even if it's closed

[dusky tiger]

I thought they would also reduce it 0 dmg

Good to know after finishing the rundown

🤡

[dapper compass]

it'll be for extended or R8 dw

[soft crater]

When roadmap says R8 will be this year

But fr when is extension

[stuck lantern]

maybe not r8

maybe rxx

[dusky tiger]

I dont think theres gonna be an extension for this one

[soft crater]

Check the roadmap

[stuck lantern]

on it rundown x.x

[verbal zinc]

Extension

[rigid sinew]

everything is an extension of R7 now

[spark wolf]

D1: Mother, will outlive you

[soft crater]

R7 is R6extext

[bold atlas]

for c2

is it sniper turrets or no

[versed oracle]

If you have a cp and leave does it restart the mission if you go back?

[neon gust]

you gotta do it from the start

[dusky tiger]

It works

Its gonna run dry real fucking fast

Thus burst might be better

But you could always bring 3 sentries and c-foam(if doing overload) or mines

[bold atlas]

ty

[bold atlas]

no bio tracker?

[dusky tiger]

1 bio 2 sentry 1 mine could work too

[soft crater]

If its sniper sentries. Bio helps with ammo efficiency on them

Iirc you can potentially yield 57 shots? Vs 40 base. But that's assuming all their shots are hitting bio tracked targets

[bold atlas]

hmmmm

so in the long run

sniper sentries are still viable?

[icy cave]

very viable this rundown

[bold atlas]

okay, ill try it out thank you!

[wary linden]

They just consume tool faster then before... By killing a lot quicker

[tiny salmon]

o/
I'm currently wondering should i buy GTFO. Can I play it like payday? I mean without verbal communication. And how beginners are treated in community? Thanks for answers o7

[wooden osprey]

beginners are treated nicely
without verbal communication there is a chat you can type in and if you can hear your teammates you don't have any problems (unless the group you are joining is a bad and toxic to mute ppl group in that case good that you are not joining them cause its most likely going to be a bad time)

[craggy pier]

it's much better/easier with comms

[wooden osprey]

also there is a lot of players that will wait for a new player to ask for help

and than go and teach them the game

(damn scavengers)

but anyway any other questions? @tiny salmon

[tiny salmon]

No, you gave me perfect answer. Thank you o/

[wooden osprey]

np

[royal ice]

E1 keeps kicking my ass, how do I get good at kiting?

[spark wolf]

😂

[neon plaza]

🔂

[shrewd dirge]

just dont kite.

[royal ice]

guess I'll give the immortal a lil kissy while enjoying the sounds of bots taking damage

[icy cave]

Ah you play with bots.

rip

[royal ice]

if I was better at kiting, I would do it without them

[icy cave]

😂 no cheese for you

[royal ice]

???

helpful channel

[spark wolf]

the devs removed kiting!

ya goober

[royal ice]

okay, I can see you have yet to try the level

there is an immortal enemy following you

which means you have to move away from it

[icy cave]

what are you expecting? a guilde on how to solo E1. do you know how small the portion of the community is that have done it?

[royal ice]

I asked a specific question, which was how to get better at kiting

[icy cave]

No one guy keeps him busy the rest of the team does the level

[royal ice]

I did not ask for a guide on the level

[royal ice]

sounds like cheese

[icy cave]

Strat is above

[icy cave]

At least it's not moldy cheese

[royal ice]

I retract my question, I regret interacting with you

[icy cave]

And I enjoyed every second of it 😏

[spark wolf]

you cant kite because there is stamina

kiting is no more

[wary linden]

brb gonna go kite while walking

[icy cave]

He won't believe you anyways

[carmine wasp]

How doable is C3 with just bots? Or with just two people?

[neon plaza]

I mean long kiting exists, but what's something else

[royal ice]

very doable, if you make sure you get to the 2nd checkpoint in good condition

[neon plaza]

same with D1 kiting

if you want kiting practice ig you can kite shadow class X on D1

[royal ice]

that's a good idea, thanks

[neon plaza]

or mess with spawns until you get a kitable army of sleepers

[dapper compass]

shadows are easier to kite as they are slower but you'll need a biotracker at all time

But it won't help you on E1

[neon plaza]

I did it without bio, but I did have pdw

[dapper compass]

That's good too

E1's first scan room is sort of a kiting place too, same with the next set of thing to do

[neon plaza]

idk kiting is a whole different thing, not really doable on normal enemies

[dapper compass]

but it's kinda different at the same time and also not realistic alone

[wary linden]

or you know.. use your ears and flashlight

[neon plaza]

I think the shadow waves and immortal are somewhat interchangeable

[dapper compass]

the issue is that "kiting" the immortal alone is a joke and doesn't require much training

it's dealing with the other stuff around that's an issue

[neon plaza]

yeah seems to be the whole gimic of the level

deal with hoards while big fella breathes down your neck

if they really want to know how to solo kite it they can check out the 3 people that solo levels

maybe more

but T-nepi, Mr. Bhop, and Hinoki (Sorry for spelling issues) are all really good and probably serve a good example on how to do the level

[dapper compass]

Also bots on E1 are a liability

it's literally easier without them, or at least by dropping them in and out carefully

[neon plaza]

bots carried me in E1

couldn't beat the level without them

[weary mesa]

removing and then adding bots back without them being bugged is pretty cringe

[spark wolf]

if they died because of something a regular player wouldn't have died for

its fair

[weary mesa]

regular players die to everything

[spark wolf]

[north dawn]

did any weapons get nerfed or buffed from rundown 6 to 7?

[noble sierra]

sniper/HAR got nerfed, chokemod/revolver/smg/MG got buffed, check #patch-notes if you need details

[north dawn]

ty ty

so based on this, is there a new tier list of what guns are strong? we all know not every gun is created equal

i want to make a guess it's still hel revolver and now also machine gun

[waxen jetty]

high cal

[noble sierra]

Yep, the two guns you mentioned indeed meta guns

[north dawn]

high cal is pretty op too, until you miss a shot from these side strafing fake football defenders

[mossy aurora]

hel gun getting removed was an indirect buff to a lot of guns

[weary mesa]

I don't think that's how that works

[wary linden]

hel weaponry > every other guns

[versed oracle]

What's regenerating bio mass?

[dusky tiger]

cocoons
they respawn enemies in the room they're in after you're 2 rooms away

[north dawn]

does bots hack with the bio tracker? it seems like they have perma uptime LOL

[rigid sinew]

yes

a lot

and with a lot of range

though the bio doesn't really "hacks" anything

[past mesa]

Bot is just chad gamer if you can’t get same results it is a skill issue

[rigid sinew]

unless you are using mods

[wary linden]

and changed zone

you can be in a zone with 5 rooms and the won't respawn as long as you are still in the zone

[silk swan]

Cant be that small right?

[icy cave]

I know of 3 guys

[silk swan]

U can add me to it

[icy cave]

But then again, ofc I don't know everyone.

[silk swan]

Oh wait solo nvm then

[icy cave]

fair: 4

[silk swan]

Scratch that

[icy cave]

😂

[silk swan]

I didnt read the solo im no shill i swear :(

Tho i do know what to do today

[icy cave]

You thought just complete E1? yeah I have done it and know a lot of folks 😅

No true solo E1 I know of 3 guys, one used the door cheese. So actually only 2

[silk swan]

Thats why i said "cant be that small"

[icy cave]

I think it justifies as "small portion"

[icy cave]

Nah this is the easiest E1 ofc it's not gonna be that small.

[silk swan]

No i mean i didnt read the "solo" first so i thought it was about who completed E1 which is what i meant with cant be that small

[silk swan]

Ye

[silk swan]

How long did the cosmetic event last?

[soft crater]

2 weeks iirc

Or a week I could be wrong

Yeah it was 2 weeks

August 24th - September 6th

They're limited time ones too so no other way to obtain them anymore unless they have another event or implement it into the normal cosmetic pools

[bold atlas]

loadout for c3?

if we are only doing main

[soft crater]

weapons your team are comfortable using for an extended period of time

[north dawn]

is there "hard" modes of each mission? if so, how do i trigger them?

[weary mesa]

Yes you have to reset at a checkpoint and bug the game heavily

[north dawn]

oh yeah my team managed to do C1 cause the ranged kept "missing" despite hitting us. it was the only reason we cleared i think

[grizzled widget]

Isn't gtfo made in Unity?

[stoic breach]

yes

[rigid sinew]

and compiled with il2ccp

[dusky tiger]

Most weapons will work

I think bio is a must
C-foam launcher (despite it seeming like you dont need it due to half the level),mines,and a sentry

I just rocked ar and lmg or hel shotty+lmg

[bold atlas]

Mmmmm

Okok thank you

[dusky tiger]

Good luck

[bold atlas]

AHaA

I’ll need it

[dusky tiger]

Its tie

Time* for your teamwork to be put to the test

[bold atlas]

😔

[north dawn]

is there a keybind to use bioscan without putting away my gun and being vulnerable

[weary mesa]

That would be a little op

So no

[waxen jetty]

s key

[distant citrus]

is the charger room in D2 meant to have aggro no matter what? no matter what we do it keeps aggroing

[tepid sand]

no

[distant citrus]

so we stealth kill the enemies in the first room, and then the second room aggros anyway

why

[mossy aurora]

the waves can spawn in those inner rooms, maybe thats whats happening?

[distant citrus]

aw man

[dusky tiger]

that

yea

They can come from the sidezones

[distant citrus]

Do the waves aggro the guys inside those rooms

[dusky tiger]

depends,if they scream inside then yes

[distant citrus]

So its just luck? Or is there a strat

[dusky tiger]

IT's especially funny when the waves spawn from the sidezones further ahead in the level

[dusky tiger]

not really
If u hear the roar of the wave from the sidezone

split the party into 2 groups of 2

[distant citrus]

also for later on do you think we should choose the mother or the tank room

[dusky tiger]

most pubs I play with say tank
But alot of people recommend mother(I don't know why)

I'll take a tank over 21 baby strikers anytime

[mossy aurora]

Tank is generally easier to deal with imo, as long as you have a good sniper and someone knows that they have to draw aggro away from the sniper player

[dusky tiger]

Oh yea,sniper is great for D2

hybrids get fuckin yote to oblivion if u land ur headshots

[distant citrus]

how does sniper fare against big chargers?

[dusky tiger]

not great

3 rounds

or maybe 2 from the bak

[mossy aurora]

3shots them, 1 shot stagger

Yep

[dusky tiger]

Tbf that level has so much ammo

you'll be fine

[distant citrus]

I don't think we could use all of it if we tried

[dusky tiger]

ye

It's always fun to see the wave spawn in the tank room and then you have like 3 or 4 tanks on you

god help you if that amount of mothers wake up

[distant citrus]

Alright cool

[dusky tiger]

it's rare but has happened to me a few times

[distant citrus]

Any advice on cell finding?

[dusky tiger]

3 defend 1 search

maintain a good distance from the entrance doors or the tanks/mothers inside will hear gunfire

should be a few terminals inside so shouldn't be too hard

I rarely go cell hunting tho

[distant citrus]

so we should have 1 sniper and 3 machine guns?

[dusky tiger]

that works

Yea

double sniper sentry
bio tracker
mines

[distant citrus]

that's what we've been runnkng

Also how many mines on the poo doors

[dusky tiger]

I just put 2

[distant citrus]

Cool

[dusky tiger]

Cuz sniper person has to delete the hybrids

[distant citrus]

very helpful info

We'll see if we can beat it today

[dusky tiger]

Good luck

[distant citrus]

do i have to beat all of the levels before E1

[icy cave]

yep

[distant citrus]

cool

just c2 and c3 to go

[icy cave]

Only mains required tho

But honestly might as well do the PE's

[distant citrus]

how hard are the PE's no spoiler

[icy cave]

C3PE is the hardest one this rundown

[distant citrus]

hardest level or harder PE?

[icy cave]

C2PE is more long than anything else

[icy cave]

C3PE is the hardest PE for sure and might actually be hardest level as well

It 's a toss up between E1 and C3PE

[distant citrus]

so B3PE and C2PE shouldnt be that hard

[wooden osprey]

C3PE E1 is more RNG based and AI RNG based on some parts

[icy cave]

I will say tho: in the grand frame of GTFO both C3PE and E1 are not very hard. We have had WAY worse

so depending on when you started etc you might actually go through comfy

[distant citrus]

i start last rundown im afraid

[icy cave]

I would say C3PE is the hardest this rundown

[wooden osprey]

it is

[icy cave]

Ah well then both will probably be your biggest challenge yet 😃

[wooden osprey]

B3PE comes close second

E1 is third place

[distant citrus]

B3PE?

[icy cave]

B3PE

B3PE is really not harder than E1, I disagree on that one.

[wooden osprey]

ah yes sorry im retarted let me unretard myself real quick

fixed

[icy cave]

B3PE is just a bit challenging on the end

[wooden osprey]

E1 is chore but B3PE is real test of team

[icy cave]

but nothing that some shooting can't fix

[wooden osprey]

at least thats what i learned from LFG channels (save me)

[icy cave]

I see most LFG E1's fail because lack of teamwork

[wooden osprey]

E1 doesn't need teamwork tho

it only needs 2 ppl that kinda know the level and 2 mindless slaves(advanced bots/players that don't know what they are doing)

and some shooting

[dusky tiger]

Code 4 was painful

[craggy pier]

R7B3PE is easy until the Overload run to the extraction which tbh isn't even THAT hard with people who kinda know what they're doing imho

[dusky tiger]

Funnily enough,secondary for that level is where I've died mostly

The overload bit is ok

Just 2 peeps shooting

[craggy pier]

I did everything with bots until the Overload part

[dusky tiger]

I did pe with those fuckin bots

Bonding 101

Abuse the fact that they cant be infected

How 2 bot simulator

[icy cave]

Exactly

I would say E1 is harder than B3PE

not harder than C3PE tho

[dusky tiger]

C3 pe was how many times can we restart at checkpoint honestly

For me

In my runs

[craggy pier]

The mere fact that E1 has no checkpoint would make it harder than B3PE where you can just try the "hard" part over and over

[dusky tiger]

E1 kinda made it refreshing that there was no checkpoint

Wish restarting from checkpoint changed enemy positions and stuff but apparently that would be too difficult to implement

Or sumthin

[icy cave]

And it should stay that way, checkpoints have nothing to do in E tier

[icy cave]

That would fix a lot of the problems with checkpoints tho

[dusky tiger]

I know
I just want to save time cuz my friend group is real busy

So getting through a boring or tedious part over and over kinda kills our free time
Granted the solution is git gud

But alas

[dusky tiger]

It would

And I wish that was done

Tho I cant say that since I've used checkpoints in c3 pe to just rush the terminals after learning where they are

[craggy pier]

Personally I feel that's more of a level building/designing issue than a checkpoint one

I really hated how in R5C3 you had to redo all the tedious stuff before the double terminals

[dusky tiger]

^

[craggy pier]

and would have vastly preferred to have at least a double terminal at the start and one at the end

especially since it was the first time seeing them and had 0 idea how they worked

[dusky tiger]

R5 was one hell of a rundown to get introduced to the game

Which imo was perfect

[craggy pier]

I've probably said that 200 times but I'm ok with checkpoints as along as they don't become an excuse to have super long levels

[dusky tiger]

That and randomizing whatevers beyond them per restart

[craggy pier]

If people want to massacre themselves with 10 checkpoint restarts who cares

[dusky tiger]

[dusky tiger]

all 3 of c3 pes come back to haunt me

Overload got us killed so often

[craggy pier]

which C3 are you talking about just out of curiosity?

[neon plaza]

C3 PE wasn't that bad

[craggy pier]

R5C3 had no Overload?

[dusky tiger]

R7

[craggy pier]

ah

[dusky tiger]

My bad

[neon plaza]

it was alright

[dusky tiger]

Pubs

Most of mine were um

[neon plaza]

Valid

[dusky tiger]

Yea

[neon plaza]

all of my clears were mostly pubs tho :,)

[dusky tiger]

Same

[neon plaza]

either 2 or 3 randoms per first clear

C2PE was the worst for me

infection be damned

[craggy pier]

Just to understand, for pubs you guys mean people found with ingame MM or discord MM?

[neon plaza]

discord mm

[dusky tiger]

Discord

[craggy pier]

ah ok

[dusky tiger]

Ingame mm has been awful

[neon plaza]

never touched actual mm

[dusky tiger]

I booted it up unironically once for e1

Cue to a game where I just see dead enemies throughout half the level

Decide it's time to leave

I guess one of the players somehow one tapped everything from spawn

[neon plaza]

homie just built better

[dusky tiger]

Gudder gaming chair

[neon plaza]

could kill a tank with a cold stare

[dusky tiger]

God I miss the scattergun