#gtfo-chat

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azure creek
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someone asked if i have that

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what does it mean

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cuz i usually play without bioscanner when solo

mellow plume
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basically you rely on bio to know where enemies are and cant play well without it

azure creek
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...

gaunt nacelle
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When stealthing usually

azure creek
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feelers?

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audio and visual cues?

gaunt nacelle
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Nah like just sleeping enemies

azure creek
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????

gaunt nacelle
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But also like you know the ping on woken enemies?

azure creek
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ye

gaunt nacelle
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Some find it hard to shoot them without it

azure creek
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HOW?????

gaunt nacelle
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azure creek
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you just shoot at moving object

gaunt nacelle
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Idk how I’m a bit worse with it icl

azure creek
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its not that hard

gaunt nacelle
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But also I think it’s cuz monitors can affect it

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And like how dim the game is

azure creek
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I beat r1 solo with bots without bio tracker lol

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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Like the bright red is easy to see

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Crutching hard

azure creek
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Lol

urban trail
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I see why people think this game is hard and not just anoyingly long now wtf

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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I then proceeded to beat r2👍

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Except e1

gaunt nacelle
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R2D1😭🙏

azure creek
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E1 I did with people

azure creek
urban trail
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How tf did you beat r1c1😭 🙏

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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I played it over 30 times

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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All with different strategies

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
gaunt nacelle
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How does one spend that much time

urban trail
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R1c1 isn't hard, it's just 30 min long💀

azure creek
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The bots killed me more than the enemies

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That's because I used to give the shotguns

gaunt nacelle
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Bruh

urban trail
azure creek
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this is when I was still new

gaunt nacelle
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Fairs ig

azure creek
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And thought I was awesome just for beating r1d1

gaunt nacelle
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If u was new wasn’t surprising

gaunt nacelle
urban trail
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The worst part of r1c1 is walking all the way back to the reactor, everything else is fine

azure creek
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Now I look back and realize the many mistakes I made

azure creek
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🤦

gaunt nacelle
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Cuh never thought once to use it

azure creek
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Nope

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The thought of using it never even crossed my mind

gaunt nacelle
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It’s a great tool when ur not stealthing

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With stealth it’s a bit of a crutch

urban trail
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Bio on bots with 3 sentrys🙏

azure creek
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I also used shotgun sentry💀

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Oml I wanna slap my past self

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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Which is why it’s a crutch

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And no to the glowsticks part

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Actually worst consumable by far

azure creek
gaunt nacelle
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Worse than shotgun sentry

azure creek
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But I just hate using bio myself

lost lynx
urban trail
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Glowsticks are so good for fog rooms tho

pseudo sedge
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bio on stealth is a great tool

azure creek
pseudo sedge
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knowing where stuff is in advance quicker allows u to know when u can just rush kill or when u need to take a bit of time

urban trail
pseudo sedge
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also traversing stealthy is FAAAAAAAR faster

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
urban trail
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Tbh we should just flip the light switch and distract all the zombies🤷‍♂️

azure creek
pseudo sedge
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
urban trail
gaunt nacelle
urban trail
azure creek
urban trail
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😭 🙏

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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Fun fact about me I beat the entirety of r8 before beating r3 r4 R5 r6 r7

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But I had my ass carried by my team

gaunt nacelle
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Was about to ask but didn’t wanna sound rude lol

azure creek
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That was back when I only had like 50 hours

gaunt nacelle
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Bro

azure creek
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So of course I got carried

gaunt nacelle
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Fuck did you skip to R8 for?

azure creek
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Random matchmaking go brrrrr

gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏

azure creek
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Thank god I'm actually decent at shooting

lost lynx
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What do you mean you aren't playing the game in order!!!???!?!?!?!?!?!??

azure creek
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...

lost lynx
azure creek
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I'm sowwy

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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I muted the story tho so I won't get spoiled when my friends play with me

lost lynx
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I'm joking

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I know

azure creek
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Anyways

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Really cool kraken

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WHY WONT IT DIE

gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏

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Cuh was NOT shooting the bubbles

lost lynx
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Shoot his balls

azure creek
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I did

gaunt nacelle
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Did he shoot his balls at u?

azure creek
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But Istg I put 5 mags into it

lost lynx
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Mags of what?

azure creek
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Hel autopistol

gaunt nacelle
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Sawed off

lost lynx
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Bruh

azure creek
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I had to grab more ammo midway

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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What's it's dmg?

lost lynx
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Using a weapon made for kissing range

azure creek
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Bruh all I have is a hel rifle

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And hel autopistol

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What you want me to do

lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
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Use hel for tumors

lost lynx
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Use hel rifle

gaunt nacelle
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And auto for like

lost lynx
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God damn

gaunt nacelle
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Balls

azure creek
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I ran out of rifle ammo

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I went from 100 percent to zero

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In like 20+ shots

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My team was also dead

gaunt nacelle
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Rez them?

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Hello?

azure creek
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I was trying to get to them while shooting

lost lynx
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"nah, id win"

gaunt nacelle
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Frfr

azure creek
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Idk why they decided to split up

gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏

urban trail
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You guys loose games?🎣

azure creek
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It was such a bad day for me

lost lynx
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Melee the Kraken

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It works too

gaunt nacelle
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Yea

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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Kraken has been killed with melee before

urban trail
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You fight the fucking kraken?

azure creek
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And that was my 10th r8e2 attempt summarized

gaunt nacelle
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Was ur first run the first time you played this game?

gaunt nacelle
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(They had 50 hours and started running R8 that’s the joke)

gaunt nacelle
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Mb team

azure creek
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Oh yeah

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Then your not wrong

lost lynx
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At least you got the knowledge for future runs now

azure creek
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It basically was

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Lol

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My favorite time was running up to a tank and scattergunning it 2 times

lost lynx
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To the tumors right?

azure creek
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Right In the bubbles too

azure creek
lost lynx
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🙏

azure creek
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I'm not that dumb

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I used to watch a lot of GTFO gameplay

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Markeplier played it

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And so did astralspiff

urban trail
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Who and who?

lost lynx
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||I recommend not taking much of the strat/commentary in Spiff early videos as guides or tips||

azure creek
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It's just I usually play it in the background

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So I only hear audio

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As I watch them during hw

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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So I can't pay much attention

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I love hearing the chaos tho

azure creek
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Especially when I saw Noah use sniper

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And not hel rifle

gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏

lost lynx
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Listen

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MG and Spear

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Top tier weapons

gaunt nacelle
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Yea.

lost lynx
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Bullpup and sniper best combo

azure creek
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Ngl I like hel autopistol and hel rifle combo more

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One mid to short range one long range

urban trail
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The bat is the best weapon wdym🎣

azure creek
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Plus I've always been better at supporting

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Not dps

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But I can be dps if necessary

gaunt nacelle
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Supporting that doesn’t use bio 😔

azure creek
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I USE C FOAM

gaunt nacelle
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Say it’s actual name

azure creek
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...

lost lynx
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C*m foam?

azure creek
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C*mmies

gaunt nacelle
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Yes

urban trail
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Its sea-foam guys

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Wtf

azure creek
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We have astralspiff brainrot

lost lynx
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Actually

azure creek
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When I play GTFO all I can think of is his terms

lost lynx
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It's construction foam

azure creek
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Plebs

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Bigs

lost lynx
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Which kinda exists in real life

urban trail
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This is why gtfo 2 will never come out

azure creek
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Feelers

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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Their normal names

urban trail
azure creek
gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
urban trail
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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Really?

gaunt nacelle
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Yes

lost lynx
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Bigs/giants too

gaunt nacelle
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To both you

azure creek
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I saw someone call them phealers

urban trail
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Look at what hapend to scout tf2😭 🙏

urban trail
robust dawn
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big scout

gaunt nacelle
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Chat what’s yalls most overrated sweet type (like gummy, chocolate etc)?

azure creek
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Too sweet for me now

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
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Unironically just dries ur mouth out to much

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Doesn’t taste great

azure creek
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I used to love it but now it's just too sweet

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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I’ve always been iffy on it

shut vapor
lost lynx
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Cookies

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From a pizza place

gaunt nacelle
shut vapor
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Dominos cookies are gooey heaven

gaunt nacelle
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Thing is I like chocolate chip cookies

azure creek
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My man

gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏

azure creek
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🤝

gaunt nacelle
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I just don’t like other chocolate things

urban trail
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Chocolate isn't supost to dry your mouth bro

azure creek
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Some do

lost lynx
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What kind of fucking chocolate do you eat?

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
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Just had chocolate which dried out my mouth

shut vapor
lost lynx
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In here? Pure sugar babyyyyyy

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Diabetes let's goooo

gaunt nacelle
urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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Come over here and you won’t like it at all

azure creek
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I only have access to extra dark chocolate 😭

lost lynx
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Probably a lot but not as much as I think

azure creek
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That thing dries my mouth faster than the sun

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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There's 3 countries in NA

gaunt nacelle
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Yea

lost lynx
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Very different from each other

azure creek
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I'm in NC 🙃

gaunt nacelle
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New Columbus

azure creek
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So we got tobacco

gaunt nacelle
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Anyways that’s Canada right?

gaunt nacelle
shut vapor
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1 hour until FNAF DBD

azure creek
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There's a new fnaf?

gaunt nacelle
shut vapor
lost lynx
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FNAF in DBD?

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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No way

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Game is peak now?

azure creek
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No shot

gaunt nacelle
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Releasing summer

azure creek
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That's crazy

urban trail
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If you fail gen does freddy just tp to you😭 🙏

azure creek
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Anyways my friend is making me beat the daycare in SB for her cuz she can't do it

gaunt nacelle
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@shut vapor what’s that one killer build everyone is complaining about that fnaf will revive?

azure creek
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I already beat it for her once

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But she died

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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Right outside the door

gaunt nacelle
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I only played up to sister location

azure creek
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On console buddy

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On console

lost lynx
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They just added stuff for the sake of adding stuff

azure creek
urban trail
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Fnaf peaked at world tbh

near stag
azure creek
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Fruit punch clown🔥

gaunt nacelle
near stag
azure creek
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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Now you need to move 1 room down

azure creek
gaunt nacelle
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Fruit punch for everyone 🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥

lucid frigate
lucid frigate
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"hes tweaking out"

gaunt nacelle
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Ima start doing that

azure creek
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They do be tweaking

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
shut vapor
near stag
gaunt nacelle
near stag
urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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Fuck outa here @unique spruce you don’t even own the game

near stag
lucid frigate
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fruit punch

gaunt nacelle
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For everyone

near stag
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👊

lucid frigate
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hes gonna fist fruit

azure creek
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NO YOU LITTLE SHIT

near stag
gaunt nacelle
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Embed fail

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😭🙏

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Bro got caught again

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No way cuh got embed failed twice

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Third times the charm trust

near stag
gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏😭🙏

azure creek
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Huh

gaunt nacelle
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No way yall are falling for this

unique spruce
azure creek
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Lol

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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They don't realise we don't have rights in here

urban trail
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I wish i had embed perms😥

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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I just never bothered trying embeds

gaunt nacelle
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We starting a revolt

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Give us image and embed perms

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🗣️🔥

urban trail
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Let me post gifs or give me death🦅 🦅 🦅

azure creek
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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Really?

gaunt nacelle
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Nothing to be spoiled anymore

lucid frigate
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spoil the lore of new games in it

gaunt nacelle
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Everything been out for years

lost lynx
lucid frigate
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then we need to start doxxing people as a spoiler

hasty bobcat
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we should pregnant man every moth message

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i agree

lucid frigate
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bring that channel back

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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I love cyber bullying

gaunt nacelle
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Just cuz u carried me don’t mean u gotta get me pregnant 🗣️🔥🗣️🗣️🔥🗣️🔥

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I got super pregnanted😔

urban trail
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This server is cooked😭 🙏

azure creek
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Lol

lost lynx
urban trail
azure creek
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We went from R8 to sweets to this

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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Omg get a room

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
near stag
lost lynx
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And you didn't invited me

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Bitch

near stag
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You are a minor

azure creek
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Wtf

near stag
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Shut

lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
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Yuh uh

urban trail
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I can't believe that maleific is cheating on kaiser🤯

lost lynx
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Does Kaiser says that to everyone he meets?

near stag
azure creek
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@lost lynx I just realized is that cipher?

lost lynx
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Idk

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I just liked the picture

gaunt nacelle
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Oh

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😭🙏

urban trail
gaunt nacelle
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Nvm

lost lynx
azure creek
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Man I'm 16

gaunt nacelle
urban trail
near stag
lost lynx
lost lynx
urban trail
near stag
lost lynx
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I play big boy games like Hello Kitty Island

azure creek
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I bought the game I want in

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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I costed me $18

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No

gaunt nacelle
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Chat i got embed perms

near stag
gaunt nacelle
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Gambling 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

azure creek
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I don't see gtfo getting a 18+ rating

lost lynx
lost lynx
urban trail
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MODS! GIVE ME IMBED PERMS, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
godofwar1intro.mp4

lost lynx
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You see 10 years old playing 21+ games

unique spruce
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i wnt to

near stag
unique spruce
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i gonna anoy ttmoth

gaunt nacelle
urban trail
gaunt nacelle
unique spruce
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y

gaunt nacelle
urban trail
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Let idk cook bro

gaunt nacelle
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.t bucket

foggy plankBOT
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||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless. I must use my bucket true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will …||
||My bucket and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit….||
||My bucket is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my bucket clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will ….||
||Before God, I swear this creed. My bucket and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.||
||So be it, until victory and there is no enemy, but peace!!||

||https://i.imgur.com/LX0YKiG.png||

near stag
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.t love

azure creek
near stag
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.t goose

foggy plankBOT
gaunt nacelle
urban trail
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21+ games are only for the 21 kid🙏

gaunt nacelle
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Like me amirite @unique spruce

lost lynx
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But not seen often

near stag
unique spruce
gaunt nacelle
near stag
azure creek
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Discord is for 13+ I still see 10 year olds on here

lost lynx
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13*

azure creek
gaunt nacelle
near stag
lost lynx
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If I was

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Why would you be making out with me

unique spruce
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🙂

gaunt nacelle
unique spruce
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nah vr gtfo

gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏not you too

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You’d last like 2 mins

azure creek
near stag
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I might Play it later today

gaunt nacelle
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Unironically would get bored

unique spruce
gaunt nacelle
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Cuh needs more dopamine

lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
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😭🙏

near stag
azure creek
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Imagine if r8a2 secondary was the tutorial

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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You should

gaunt nacelle
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Unironically love that level

near stag
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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I mean

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Maybe

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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If you carried

gaunt nacelle
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Cuh thinks I’m good

unique spruce
gaunt nacelle
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And we have pmom after

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And nightmare scouts

azure creek
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Ah right

near stag
azure creek
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Forgot that existed

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Ye your fucked

unique spruce
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???

unique spruce
near stag
gaunt nacelle
unique spruce
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he has rx 7900xtx and r7 7800x3d

gaunt nacelle
near stag
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Just Run through it 4head

gaunt nacelle
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Would be funi

lost lynx
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Bro

azure creek
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Also I did all secondary and overloads in r8 so all prisoner efficiencys have been obtained for that rundown

lost lynx
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Pic or didn't happen

azure creek
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If I can find it

gaunt nacelle
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Bro…

azure creek
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Someone send spoiler channel link

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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Wow I hate school wifi

unique spruce
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my school gets 0.14 download

azure creek
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Sent the screenshot

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It's in gtfo media

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Want me to send my steam profile?

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@lost lynx

unique spruce
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nah

azure creek
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I love getting carried to victory lol

unique spruce
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fr

near stag
unique spruce
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(i dont have the game)

azure creek
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Sledgehammer for the win

azure creek
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R8 was the most time

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Thank god for guides

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And this community

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I rage quit so many times

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Cuz I woke up a scout

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Everyone knew exactly where to go and what to do meanwhile I was getting lost

urban trail
azure creek
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At least my stealth game is mostly clean

near stag
azure creek
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I mean

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The stagger is nice tho

urban trail
near stag
noble rose
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✋😐🤚

urban trail
azure creek
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Probably

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I wanna kms rn

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I hate hs

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And college for that matter

shut vapor
noble rose
shut vapor
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Only tank surge when @gaunt nacelle keeps stepping in it

noble rose
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damn bro rlly called him out

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moth did nothing wrong, he was just upping the experience :)

urban trail
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Wtf did moth do😭 🙏

noble rose
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blud brought a burst pistol once to a nightmare charger and reinforced flyers and tank fight

urban trail
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I like your funny words magic man

gaunt nacelle
shut vapor
noble rose
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😭 🙏

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lock in yung blud

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nah lowkey we can have like 10 tanks and just reach spawn cap

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might be the strat unless rundownx upped the limit

urban trail
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Where do the zombies come from during alarms? Are thry in the walls?

noble rose
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zombies 🙏

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chicken jockey

urban trail
mellow hedge
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neather

urban trail
azure creek
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which mission has pablo the invincible tank?

urban trail
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R1a1

azure creek
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😑

noble rose
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real

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the tutorial*

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iykyk

mellow hedge
azure creek
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thank you

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i remembered r8a2

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but forgot the other one

gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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dang the scattergun does 128 dmg???

gaunt nacelle
hasty bobcat
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i think?

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[[Scattergun]]

crude vergeBOT
azure creek
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actually crazy

hasty bobcat
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153.6

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mb

azure creek
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i never bothered checking the dmg values

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307.2 dmg is insane

gaunt nacelle
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Bruh

shut vapor
azure creek
unique spruce
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elle ork ej?

azure creek
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messing around with weapons rn

gaunt nacelle
unique spruce
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who?

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suzan elle?

azure creek
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how much would the game balance break if i made the mag size of scatter gun from 2 to 4?

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how much would need to be rebalanced?

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
azure creek
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ye thats what i figured

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you can delete enemies the way it is now already

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if you increased max mag

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you could just sprint into r8 and just delete most things

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i really need to try using more weapons

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rather than just hel rifle and scattergun

mellow hedge
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pubdown moment

hasty bobcat
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pubdown moment

azure creek
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so why does the choke shotgun shoot in 3 round burst even though its a semi auto?

lucid frigate
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scatters just a better sniper

azure creek
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i will probably do that

lucid frigate
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sniper was 3 mag at some point and it was a good gun

azure creek
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or i could just make sniper have same ammo as hel rifle

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since i could copy and paste

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and i dont like code

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anyways i have a bad grasp of balancing weapons

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so can someone tell me why does the choke shotgun shoots in 3 round burst even though its a semi auto?

pure belfry
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you can just trigger finger the choke mod extremely fast

azure creek
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then how come when i shoot it it shoots 3 bullets in a row?

noble rose
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its 4 shots per clip no ?

azure creek
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i mightve been accidentally doing that

noble rose
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LOL

pure belfry
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it has a ridiculous fire rate of 1200RPM

azure creek
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cuz the recoil sends my screen to facing the roof

azure creek
noble rose
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real

pure belfry
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it's real

azure creek
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thats insane for a shotgun

noble rose
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yea its a cousin to the scattergun

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cuz u just get more range with the choke

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and a tighter spread

pure belfry
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the only thing faster than chokemod in fire rate is the machine pistol at 1500 RPM

noble rose
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and u have an actual sight

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instead of bare iron sights on the scatter

junior latch
junior latch
azure creek
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she wants the game to be easier

junior latch
#

did they look at guides to learn it?

azure creek
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ditto

junior latch
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The game is 100% not easy

azure creek
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i do like your guides tho eva

junior latch
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but its far easier than people think

azure creek
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it makes explaining things to friends way easier

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i personally love the game the way it is

junior latch
#

Regarding gun balance
It wont actually change much unless you just make it an arcade shooter

azure creek
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just dont give the guns infinite ammo

pure belfry
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realistically 1200RPM is incredibly overkill, you could easily half the fire rate of the choke mod and only extremely fast clickers will ever notice the difference, most people cant click more than about 8 times per second and to even hit 1200RPM you need to click at a rate of 20 times per second

mellow hedge
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and its still ass

junior latch
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choke mod isnt ass

lucid frigate
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i will die for my choke mod and high caliber

junior latch
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thats a heavy overstatement.

Its just massively massively rolecrept

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Why the fuck pick it when in 999/1000 situations its worse

lucid frigate
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the high caliber is literally the choke mod with 2 more bullets and a tiny bit less damage

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but it still 1 shots smalls

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the scattergun is the other end of that

mellow hedge
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choke mod is outclassed by other weapons in almost every way

lucid frigate
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i still wouldnt define the weapon as ass because you can certainly use it

mellow hedge
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but it genuinely isnt very good

lucid frigate
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its not like the hel autopisstool

mellow hedge
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sniper is probably a better pick ngl imo

azure creek
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i like hel autopistol (●'◡'●)

lucid frigate
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i do not

azure creek
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i usually play support

lucid frigate
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hel shawty tho is great

azure creek
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so i love the stagger

lucid frigate
azure creek
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how many people would be mad if i increased the sniper ammo count

azure creek
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really?

mellow hedge
azure creek
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1 headshot for bigs

mellow hedge
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and the econ is fine if you use it for that

lucid frigate
#

either 1 tap them to head(sniper) or hit them 2 times in back with chokemod

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chokemod then just has more ammo for every other purpose

mellow hedge
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you arent hitting 2 back shots every time with chokemod

lucid frigate
#

if you dont hit the back snipers better at that one specific area

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and then is worse than the scatterun

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and the helrifle

mellow hedge
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you arent most of the time

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yeah obv

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but you arent hitting backshots a lot of the time with choke

junior latch
junior latch
lucid frigate
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i really do not like the hel autopistol

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i just think hel shotgun is a strictly better version

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like it isnt but how i play yea

junior latch
pure belfry
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before the hel autopistol didn't have hel properties, and that was pretty lackluster

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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what's the argument

mellow hedge
junior latch
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Not saying that sniper is good but…

mellow hedge
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chokemod doesnt really provide much

junior latch
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Choke is an all rounder

mellow hedge
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but a bad all rounder

junior latch
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Its anti small, charger, nightmare, scout, giant, boss

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Its not bad

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In the sense other stuff is bad

lucid frigate
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its the highcaliber with 2 less bullets

azure creek
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Imma up the sniper ammo count so I can use it and people won't laugh

junior latch
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And not pin point

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And worse reload

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And less ammo/refill

lucid frigate
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yes

mellow hedge
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i would personally rather take sniper over choke

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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sniper has its niche

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while choke has sawed off as alternative

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so u never use it

lucid frigate
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if sniper had 3 a clip id use it but i just like shotguns more so id still scatter

junior latch
junior latch
junior latch
mellow hedge
pure belfry
hasty bobcat
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the only thing it doesn't have is range so

lucid frigate
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its a main not a special

hasty bobcat
#

even then it's based

hasty bobcat
mellow hedge
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sniper has more utility in its niche than chokemod has

hasty bobcat
#

^

mellow hedge
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i think it offers more value

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giants become much less of a problem

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chokemod just kinda picks off a bit for a lot of things

lucid frigate
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i think its a good gun for the 100 giant missions but otherwise im not taking sniper

junior latch
lucid frigate
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i like chokemod when going into a mission blind

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as it doesnt suffer against anything but it isnt 'optimal' either

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but im not gonna regret it

mellow hedge
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i would

lucid frigate
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i will regret bringing a blind sniper 9//10 times

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at least for me

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if there isnt bigs it isnt a gun

mellow hedge
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blind isnt really a good metric

noble rose
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u shld give the sniper a 50 bullet mag

mellow hedge
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if im going blind im taking sawed off hel rifle every time

lucid frigate
#

true

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make it a full auto with no reload but 50 bullets

mellow hedge
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even if scatter is a better pick

lucid frigate
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i support this

noble rose
junior latch
pure belfry
junior latch
mellow hedge
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Choke mod provides value where value isnt needed

lucid frigate
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isnt sniper like absolutely useless against every other enemy in the game other than giants

junior latch
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OG R7 is the best example. Choke mod didnt get changed since then, but it was legit a top tier option for the past meta

mellow hedge
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If you need the choke mod to pick off a couple smalls then you have bigger problems

lucid frigate
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while chokemod is useful against every single enemy type in the game, if not highly effective

mellow hedge
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eliminating giants is better value

junior latch
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people act like the gun is suddenly trash without any nerfs. It got rolecrept, not fucked

lucid frigate
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yeah there is just better alternatives but it isnt bad itself

mellow hedge
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Both sniper and choke mod are bad in terms of the meta

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You just pick the better weapons

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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team

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choke has no particular use while sawed off is in the game

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change my mind

pure belfry
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I will say I used Choke Mod in my R2E1 clear as a middle ground between longer range options (sometimes the scans just don't give you hel rifle sightlines), and having immediate non-precision based stopping power while being able to interrupt hybrids, due to the team comp really wanting to use thermals among what they were otherwise comfortable with

lucid frigate
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isnt scatter-sniper the exact same way

pure belfry
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my primary wasn't sawed off either, it was SMG/Hel Revo tossup

junior latch
lucid frigate
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or hel-rifle-sniper even

mellow hedge
hasty bobcat
mellow hedge
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We have all these other weapons

hasty bobcat
#

ye

mellow hedge
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I also dont think there are ANY levels where choke mod is a "good" pick, but sniper can be a "good" pick on a variety of levels

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And on the other levels in a full team setting, sniper can just provide more value

lucid frigate
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i still dont think id ever pick sniper over a helrifle or a scatter

mellow hedge
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I think some levels choke mod is better

junior latch
# mellow hedge You just pick the better weapons
  1. the point is that choke is like a -1 or -2/10 (in comparision to good picks) but overall provides some value everywhere

sniper is a 10/10 for like 2 things and a 0-1/10 for everything else

  1. you say if "you" pick sniper. But it goes back to the reason why 4 sniper loadout is so ass. You are mega dependent on other stuff. you gotta understand that sniper makes more sense to pick OVER other options since it has a niche (however tiny). But that doesnt make it better as a general pick vs a slightly subpar (rolecrept) weapon that works as an all rounder

if we only had these 2 weapons youd pick 3 choke, 1 sniper or 4 chokes (this last one is just a clear hyperbole obviously)

pseudo sedge
pure belfry
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as crazy as I am, I took precision rifle into R6CX

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I find it acceptable against big flyers even if it doesnt 1 shot, and i have more ammo to pluck off flyers

lucid frigate
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i like precision rifle i need to get better with it

gaunt nacelle
pure belfry
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yes

lucid frigate
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thermal too is nice

junior latch
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yea cuz theres typically better options

pure belfry
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it was during the run with you moth

junior latch
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but this always leads people to believe that choke is suddenly no value

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its LESS

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this is unironically keksis argument for hammer/spear but actually logical

gaunt nacelle
junior latch
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choke is basically always worse than hel rifle/high cal/scatter

mellow hedge
lucid frigate
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choke is always less value than whatever is strictly needed but its useful for everything

junior latch
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but sniper in this case would be knife vs spear argument

lucid frigate
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sniper is either 0 or 10

gaunt nacelle
junior latch
mellow hedge
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Im talking about the game we have now

lucid frigate
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and sniper is still either 0 or 10

lost lynx
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What's the argument now?

mellow hedge
junior latch
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it does

lucid frigate
junior latch
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where does sniper apply value

mellow hedge
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Im talking about in a 4man setting where people can pick their guns

junior latch
#

giants

lost lynx
junior latch
#

hybrids

lost lynx
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I run now

junior latch
#

kraken

lucid frigate
junior latch
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if you compare the 2 guns choke mod does A LOT better in everything sniper is bad. And is decently close in many cases

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choke mod unironically is like top 3 anti hybrid clear

mellow hedge
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Yeah and thats relative to those 2 guns

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But those tthings that choke is better at is just covered by your team

junior latch
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yea and snipers niches are heavily rolecrept by scatter, burst cannon and co

pure belfry
lucid frigate
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id rather have a chokemod to kill a hybrid than a sniper from ammo economy, general usage and how effective it is for stagger

pseudo sedge
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if scatter and burst cannon wouldn't exist choke mod would be a pick. Otherwise currently the gun's "niche" is so fucking insanely tiny that I dont see it ever ran unironically

junior latch
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choke mod is generally rolecrept but its closer in value

mellow hedge
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Where as sniper gives much bigger value in its niche that choke ever does

lucid frigate
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rolecreeps
Scattergun <- Choke Mod -> Highcaliber -> Burst Cannon
Hel Rifle <- Sniper -> Burst Cannon

junior latch
#

niche, but then good value or basically no value

generally decent value

lucid frigate
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is that agreeable

lucid frigate
#

you dont want a sniper you would rather have 2 of the other niches (same for choke mod)

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?

hasty bobcat
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????

lucid frigate
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am i insane

junior latch
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choke mod is role crept by: scattergun (boss clear/giant clear), burst cannon (boss clear, giant clear), hel gun/hel rifle (charger clear/wave clear)

lucid frigate
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i think i might be tired

mellow hedge
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My whole point tho is if you couldnt pick those

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and you had to choose choke or sniper

lucid frigate
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if you couldnt pick any of those id always take choke

mellow hedge
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on 1 player

junior latch
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if you couldnt pick any of those youd pick choke mod in 9/10 cases

lost lynx
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Choke

junior latch
#

the 1 time youd pick sniper is when it outshines choke mod specifically

pseudo sedge
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but as eva says, those cases would be rare

lost lynx
pseudo sedge
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sniper is just too bad default stats into anything but giants and hybrids and maybe big flyers

junior latch
#

sniper pickrate would likely go up as it goes from "anti kraken, big flyer, hybrid and rare giant clear" to "all anti big and kraken"

choke mod goes from "subpar all rounder" to "all rounder"

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choke mod tank combat genuienly was fun in OG R7 Sad_Cat

lucid frigate
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btw isnt the sniper ass against bosses or is that just me

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not kraken

junior latch
#

ass vs mom

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decent vs tank

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and pmom

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ok vs megamom

lost lynx
#

Use sniper against the babies

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Great value

mellow hedge
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Its just like you NEVER see choke in speeds or high level gameplay, but you see sniper, because any value choke gives just becomes obsolete with your team.

junior latch
#

goated into kraken

lucid frigate
#

true

pure belfry
gaunt nacelle
pseudo sedge
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also keep in mind: the only real disadvantage when it comes to choke mod vs sniper into giants and big flyers is ammo cost per kill. The kill range is very good for both

lost lynx
pseudo sedge
lost lynx
#

Lol

pseudo sedge
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or BC

mellow hedge
#

yeah

gaunt nacelle
pseudo sedge
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if they wouldn't exist we would use choke

mellow hedge
#

but snipers niche actually has a spot in the game

pseudo sedge
#

because sniper sucks ass against anything but 3 enemies

junior latch
mellow hedge
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if choke was removed the game would not be any different

lucid frigate
pseudo sedge
mellow hedge
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i think my like situations are different in my head

lost lynx
#

I love when all the gun arguments suddenly turn to " but in speeds X is bad/good"

noble rose
#

Hackett_Heart hel shawty

mellow hedge
#

but we have those 2

junior latch
#

frosty just looks at
"does it have a niche"

in a comparision between a super niche gun that maxes out 2 stats and throws away everything else. And a gun that has stats everywhere but has multiple guns do what it can do in some areas

mellow hedge
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but sniper actually has a niche that ISNT filled by other weapons in those cases

pseudo sedge
mellow hedge
junior latch
pseudo sedge
mellow hedge
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why take choke mod when you can take hel rifle, hel gun, scatter, etc

junior latch
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a niche doesnt make a weapon better for a GENERAL use

pseudo sedge
#

that person just picks combat shotgun and 3 others go scatter

junior latch
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you are gonna suffer less by picking choke mod than sniper

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because for sniper you either do nothing or 1 specific thing

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choke mod does something for everything

mellow hedge
#

okay maybe my point is that i think sniper has its place in high end gameplay and speedrun meta and choke just doesnt

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and i phrased it bad

pseudo sedge
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if 2 scatters already exist in the team, only sniper can be playable but that's cause scattergun exists

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that's not the fault of choke

mellow hedge
#

like in my mind i just dnt think f general pub gameplay

junior latch
#

unironically this could go into a comparision like pdw vs carbine

pdw provides value in a way no other gun does. Carbine does value for so many things, but is genuienly outclasses by the actual top weapons. Which is the better gun

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also "pub" (awful term to use for general gameplay) aka general gameplay is way more relevant than speedrun meta

mellow hedge
#

yeah ik

gaunt nacelle
#

pub

mellow hedge
#

i think im just thinking of not that

lost lynx
#

When ranking weapons you should think about general gameplay

mellow hedge
#

yeah ik

lost lynx
#

Not Speedruns, challenge runs or whatever

mellow hedge
#

yeah ik

lost lynx
#

Yeah yk

mellow hedge
#

like i think my point is jsut that like at a certain point choke is just an obsolete weapon where as sniper still has its place

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and in my eyes, sniper has more of a place in the meta than choke

junior latch
#

like rayalots tierlist and the sleeper podcast tierlists (if you move around the few missplaced things (aka dmr in B tier for ray or mgs higher than deserved for sleeper podcast) look at different things

ray looks at high end mission gameplay encounters while the sp looks at the general encounters in gtfo

reminds me when I talked with jish about balance and they had played only jishdown (boss spam of death). Scattergun value goes from good/great (this is pre R8 scatter) to obscene beyond belief

mellow hedge
#

because choke doesnt provide anything that other weapons dont

junior latch
mellow hedge
mellow hedge
junior latch
#

choke mod is obsolete -> rolecrept in like 9/10 of its usecases. And the 1 thing it still does unique just isnt worth it regularly

Choke mod is still in a better shape than sniper, as it actually does things. Albeit subpar

Like the arbalist is also obsolete, so is HAR, at least half the full auto main weapons and shotgun sentry (some of these being actual dogshit... we all know which)

mellow hedge
#

i agree that like in general gameplay for a lot of people choke is proobably the better pick

junior latch
#

like if a player asks on here
"should I pick choke mod or sniper"

(you obviously should ask for which level and what their team is running, but lets set that aside)

you are more likely to say choke mod

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after you say "pls just pick hel rifle or scatter"

mellow hedge
#

i wouldnt recommend people sniper

junior latch
#

also frosty more r5d1 in 16 hours 💀

mellow hedge
#

gulp

junior latch
#

frosty strat hopefully gets us the run

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fuck cell rng

mellow hedge
#

my strat is the goat

junior latch
#

ladderfoam enables it

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gotta have the bad to get the good

mellow hedge
#

yeah

#

it gives us the ammo

junior latch
#

and then we get triple south spawn :)

mellow hedge
#

also i think runs will get more consistent with us running for D cell instead of B and C

junior latch
#

possibly

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I think we rly gotta clear out A more (specifically the giants)

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I cant deal with them without using up a full ammo pack worth of my ammo

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vs like... 1 scatter mag

mellow hedge
#

yeah i try to kill the giants

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sometimes they are just out of the way when we are running for cell

urban trail
#

🤯

junior latch
#

I do feel that if we get a good ladderfoam we may not give 2 ammo to hel rifles but 1/1 to rifle and scatter

mellow hedge
#

so its kenny dies in next room or i leave a giant or 2 alive

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but if we get super close A cell im just sitting outside instead of trying to clear A

junior latch
#

unless you legit dont see the giant its probably worth to just go for it

mellow hedge
#

its not worth

junior latch
#

since door needs to open

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if its super close A I think we just kinda gotta slow down minimally

mellow hedge
#

i might actually check how far the room gets pulled if i shoot outside sec door

junior latch
#

we safe so much time from the cell that us clearing more carefully is still a +10 second gain

mellow hedge
#

yeah

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i can probably melee shit

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instead of shooting

junior latch
#

like if its close cell kenny might aswell not pick up immediatly and empty his guns then carry or smth

hasty bobcat
#

what speed is talk about

junior latch
#

sometimes if we get the call out we can melee the rest

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I just cant stop enemies from going for ladder foam while foaming

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so I need someone to stay guard at some point

junior latch
#

sub 18 attempts

hasty bobcat
#

oof

junior latch
#

but we are gonna transition to R5D2 right after finally

mellow hedge
junior latch
#

also @mellow hedge

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A key in R5D2 is 1/1000

#

we are not going for that

mellow hedge
#

dayum

hasty bobcat
#

A key into far term

#

kek

mellow hedge
#

it like evens out at that point lmao

lost lynx
#

Its just like 0.1 chance

#

You can do it

burnt flume
#

r1a1 simulator

junior latch
#

litteraly worse chances than a r1a1 b front hsu

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and you also are still rolling for cell and front term