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no
fcking last tank on r8c2, no good place to defend vs him😡
the one in the MRI part?
you can use the Machine as cover
u can prob kill him on ladder
and u just ignore scan till he's dead
i will try to find better place tomorrow, i died twice vs him, enough gtfo for today
his random side spawn screwing me
as if you need any more reasons to put a clown costume on
😋
Hey guys, does anyone have passwords for R8A2 secondary mission?
Fellas I hate to say it but Hel Shotgun sucks#
Thank you so much man.
burst pistol go pew pew
How do you use the sawed off well? And what do you usually pair with it? I assume hel gun/rifle
Shoot small enemies at a range where it 1 shots
I think I tried it once and I think I just sucked at utilizing it
aim not for a head shot but like upper body i guess?
Do you bother aiming for - ok
u aim head for shooters
It pairs with everything ngl. But if you ignore general special strength it pairs well with some range if you want to get a bit of everything
otherwise it's body
which usually is hel rifle yes
Well yea
Butfuck shooters
^
Love my one shot body shot
Boosters 💀
Play hel rifle
Yeah but I can't spam hel rifle as much
it rly doesnt ngl
One shot body shotttttt
when hel gun kill 9 in a clip always
Game isnt balanced around boosters at all
is a bit too strong
Saying Base hel gun is „a bit too strong“ would be an understatement already
i mean
booster buffed body kill hel gun is just
it required brain to be busted
bruh
no
Requires brain (or lets say aim) is smth you can say for double tap
double tap with non fitting gameplay is pretty meh
but with great aim becomes good
it's about getting used to i feel like
hel gun just goes from great to broken as long as you dont just… miss
ye
Hel gun definetly isnt an instant pick up
but booster hel gun…
is
and also is stupidly unfair vs strikers

ceiling as in you can do more yea
ye
you are a bit more limited with 0.2
But you also dont start out as cracked skill floor wise
ye is fair
there's hardly anyone who could actually optimise .1 hel gun i feel like and be cracked with it
like most of the people would just miss more often prob
Hel gun or rifle?
gun
gun
its less that you can reach perfect aim and more that you can do more quick shots
For what?
Naming? Visual design? Strength? Vs what? Ease of use?
Y'all's conversation
You have the option to quickly shoot again
Its simply an upside in this case
It felt like y'all were talking about hell rifle but calling it the hell gun
You arent forced to quickshoot
0.1 hel gun is just objectively better yea
you know why 0.1 is just better when you play it ngl
youre high
chill remember u3 hold
i will never understand why breakthrough 2 had 0.1 max pen hel gun
and then nerfed hel rifle to 4 mag (also giving all other guns pen and giving bc a 12 mag)
bc modders dont understand balancing
I agree with chill
i mean
when i need to shoot 9 nightmare weakpoints
like 2 clips in a row
i have more time to aim with .2 instead of .1
💀 ive said this before
Theres def cool gun ideas n all. But the balance is off way too often
you have the same time
because 0.1 doesnt magically force you to shoot faster
thats on you
Can someone recommend a main weapon for me? I can use literally any type of gun and I have good aim
u kinda have to mag dump there ngl
but its not a hel gun issue
sawed off
wait isn't hip firing using the hel gun also better
….
i mean
Reasons?
then why is this a hel gun discussion
that's like the point
this is a u3 is a bad hold discussion
if you need to mag dump you can legit do that so much faster and get value with smth else quicker
no i was saying like
Best main
it's harder in those type beat situations
Im usually the guy that holds down waves
Hel revo is a good choice aswell if you want smth more aim rewarding
So sawed off and hel revo?
it is pretty cooked ngl
its not harder tho
double tap for high aim/high reward (altho rly less than the top choices)
Dmr is similar to hel revo in aim and also good
bc you just die on 0.2
Carbine if you want ease of use and power
nah like
So no carbine or burst rifle?
that is a completely different point
Carbine isnt rly aim intense
oh
^ chills point
I'm sorry I'm bad with explaining stuffs
is what i said above
but that's what i meant basically
yes dad
also idk how you can say that you will shoot worse with 0.1 hel gun in a situation where you are spamming 0.2
You can legit shoot 0.1 at a pace where you still aim. But you can also shoot faster than 0.2 off the bat
Can sawed off one shot chargers too
yes
Yes
it has enough damage

you need to land the pellets though
gotta hit everything in range tho
What about nightmares
nah it's like, if we were compare how you'd shoot on .1 and .2 it's defo harder to shoot on .1 intervals
also my opinion on hel gun - i prefer playing 0.2 because there's inbuilt protection against me being more wasteful than i already am
but the dps of 0.1 is so good
I assume you need to be point blank on a tumor
Yes because you have less time inbetween
But you
Arent
Forced
To shoot that fast
Thats why the gun is better straight up
i was just
.
Yes
Some gotta hit bubble
that's all i meant
maybe I'm sleep deprived
on that note
Am I wrong for feeling like dow having (only/mostly?) gun wielding enemies is a blunder?
we didn't see everything yet so
I feel like the futuristic setting allows for enemies going for other type of attack styles
And bullets in a hitscan way are always either horrible or a non issue
thats why the (?)
when you fail a hack lock does the noise origionate from you or from the lock
even if it didnt
When would this make a difference really
im not looking forward to it ngl
halo 2 sniper jackal
I havent played much payday but that was cuz it seemed pretty boring
yeah it looked rather bleak from that leak but it's also early on and i didn't expect much in the first place to be honest
but also it's kinda just, one of many
Looked ass
gameplay ideas were solid and unique already
^^^^^
When I'm making weapons for my group it's hard to get them consistent to base game based only on my experiences 

ok
You unlocked suppressed memory.
i've never played halo 2 lmaooooo
are you sure it was incel and not intel
No way Quad is an Intel CPU
Glad you think I'm smort :3
2 broken pins
I make so many spoonerisms
I know EXACTLY what you should watch
battle cats
but i dont like battle cats
No it's Visitor (rundown) gameplay
Some classic r5 gameplay
Why
Just do both then
game worth the money?
depends how much playtime and enjoyment you derive from it
there is enough in the game to be worth the money if you enjoy it
if you do not enjoy it, it will not be worth the money
Maybe
play rundown roulette :D
fr
Play deez roulette
keep yourself safe
geep aourself yafe
goon urself strafe
freaky
how many 18+ servers is bro in 😭
Yes
its him. its john goon, inventor of gooning
when you finally work up the courage to say hi to your stalker who you secretly have a crush on
HUH
Talking by experience?
Does anyone know what weapons were in OGR4?
Hel rev and bc
Only two guns unfortunately

trying to clear r2d1 for the first time, does anyone have any tips for how to handle big hordes in non-defensible positions? that finale is killing my group
also please tell me the acid fog goes away after we clear r2... i dont know if its worth playing the game any longer if its present in all the future rundowns
i no wanna say "shoot them" but tbh idk if theres much more, 2 sentries set up works
also :]
Its present in a lot of levels
:)
Usually the game gives you tools to deal with the fog
but the rest are a bit more measured
same thing goes for all rundowns they tend to introduce something and exploit it
Turbines, fog repellers and some levels have mechanics to remove it
and then it chills
i mean they are on d1
i think they have seen those
I heard R2 slander fuck R2D1
But trust me
There is way way worse stuff than spicy fog
r2c2 was really bad too. the run and gun concept was fun and cool until the acid fog maze room
Welcome to GTFO
oh well but its just one zone
the acid fog is only the beginning 
It funny icl
but do the things worse than acid fog come with the turbine mechanic of "one of you isnt allowed to play the game anymore"?
omg we reachin the ominous quota yet?
You can drop it you know
And help your team
The fog takes a bit to come back
u also can have fog repellers to drop down in case its needed
Instead of one person not able to play the game, make it 3 :)))
R2E1 intensifies*
Cell
Baby
Turbine
Truly the GTFO experience
what
it was all 4 in OG R2E1 if im not wrong
that comes for when u have much more hours in the game
yeah i know but then i have to hold it again for a while and if i drop it for too long my team dies
You have to carry 3 objective ítems in R2E1 finale
Dw
Yuggling is important solo skill to have, if I did R2C2 with bots so can you
bruh how bc i have two bots
Also dunno if someone else has said this but R2D1 is a planing heavy level
You can pull most of rooms and mine the doors
Lol
Plan is:
Shoot
Mine
Kill
Yea but like what rooms and which rooms are first
yeah we have gotten decently good at the level but the finale just wrecks us because theres so many doors open in the cluster room
bruhhhhh
And which does cuz some needs preservation
Whats your loadout
mine, bio, 2x sentry
i mean by that point u should one, not be infected cuz if u used ur fogs well or just sent one person u have enough disinfect to cure it all, and 2 have oki tools as u dont need like any sentry
except for a few alarms
@midnight mural time to start pubbing 
the trick there is just rlly, try to find funnels between scans or run away from the enemies from time to time if necessary, the room is very afable to jumping around
thats not the word to use but oh well
apart from that just putting the sentries maybe not looking directly into ur entrances but along chokes u think enemies can funnel down
maybe one on the first door u go in and the other near the little bridge
uhhh i have double tap rifle and precision rifle, my friend has heavy SMG and choke mod, the bots both have heavy smg and choke mod
i wouldd probs give the bots a mg
yeah we had plenty of supplies, just couldnt handle the number of enemies
Give the bots burst cannon/machinegun
choke mod goated for killing giants though
guns not meta omg ur losin!!!!
Use scattergun then
Scattergun stares*
guns not the incredible top tier omg!!!
nah they wreck rooms with it
thats the only part of the loadout i would try to fix
oh also does anyone know a reliable way to make bots pick up items like fog repellers? seems really hit or miss
they, waste a lot of its ammo on smalls and they can do that with more long range, ammo efficient weaponry
as burst cannon
i'll give it a shot then
if you think choke mod is goated, hey who are we to tell you its bad. Whatever floats your boat, my friend
alsooo just gettin away from the box usually makes them pick up a resource
but not much else
Im pretty sure bots have a preference for fog repellers
they can be funny with it
plus the 0% bug where a bot has 0% something and thus is prevented from grabbin anything else
idk if it happens for consumables but it sure be for resources so
idk if i would be surprised
in an alarm thing do the enemies spawn in waves or is it constant? like could we kill a big wave, then run forward and scan and repeat
its constant
after u kill a wave nother one will respawn shortly after
it does have a little timer between them but its better to rush up the scans and defend on them
gross
unless it is like, very specific scenarios usually
Wait until you see surges
in this case one of u could have both bots and focus scans
Lol
and the other can rush up and defend
as most scans on this level are big red circles and not clusters
also i guess if u still have mines by the end
u can always spam them in whatever place u see appropiate
it is the last last part of the level so bit of a waste havin them on at the end
if they arent on doors though they'll just get like 1 dude
and all the doors into the cluster room are security ones that we cant close :/
Honestly imo hel rifle more optimal for R2D1
They can only come from 2 doors can't they?
they can come from like 6
I can find it dark sent it somewhere
the r2d1 gen alarm is heavily affected by span direction bias
Im pretty sure one of the doors in the cluster room leaves to only one room which means enemies dont spawn there
yeah the disinfect room is but there are a lot of others
while there are like 6 valid rooms enemies can spawn in, they 99% of the time come just from elevator and class V direction
with the latter being more common as well
what do you mean by class v direction?
one of the sec doors from gen room has a class 5 on it to unlock
the 2nd alarm in the level
enemies during gen alarm will come from that door over 50% (maybe 60%?) of the time, and the rest of the time they'll come from elevator (spawn)
they can spawn elsewhere but it's really really unlikely
I think its lockmeltah > Nade/mines > foggy
But since ur two people always carry fogs
Gtfo moment
"oh yeah this is the rule, HOWEVER"
starts listing 10000000 situations where it doesnt/partially apply
carry me please
On one alarm on r6b2 there’s a room where it’s 2 rooms away but there’s a 0% chance they spawn there 
Every bit of foam put on that door has gone to waste
average
already did, move on 
Well at the very least we'll have a chance to do over a lot of those... eccentricities
finally beat r5e1!
last door is epic, but wouldn't want to play it again lol, crazy level
Time for cell skip
now just want to play monster hunter
this game is like working instead of relaxing lol
Monster hunter snooze
MH is good
(I’ve never played it)
I still prefer MHW tho
it's relaxing at least
I enjoy eating a household's worth of food in order to beat down a giant dragon with my ridiculously oversized instrument
i often fails after 1+ hour attemp, and my teammate left which makes me heartbreaking
Istg is that the level with the bulkhead on like a ”platform” and where you and Eva and co got RNG’d by that giant? I swear I put foam there lol
Yeah that level
It’s fine I beat that level that run
Yep
Average GTFO moment
I might be thinking of wrong door 🤔
But I did put foam on a door
And it went entirely useless
Hopped in VC with a guy (he showed that uplinks doesn’t req terminal to stay ”active”) and I showed him and he was like rip
define active
You don’t have to be near it
Like you don’t even need Q Strat
You can just hop off
Run a billion miles away
And code will still process
well it does work that way for me
Yea but neither Eva nor I though so, that guy proved us wrong though
put code in, do shooting run around, then i only come back when the new code catalogue shows up. or even on last code, once i put in, i can just run off
Yea I used to always stay by the terminal since bots could usually clear it
Nice to know that I can also run about
i only learn this bc of solo trial kek
its forces you to defend while doing uplinks by yourself
with bots u mean
Yes
Matchmaking is just relax as the guy whose using no recoil and infinite ammo runs about and clears entire level (I’m still salty about that one guy that cheated when I was mm R6C2, admitted after we cleared it like fuck you)
Surely Eva knew
We literally do it in our speeds
Ima need to go back and find these texts lol
#gtfo-related-questions message he knew about the final not needing to be close
Oh
I didn’t know for sure the all codes would process with terminal being inactive but it makes sense
I knew the last one did tho for sure
Yea, all does and it’s such a relief to me lol
@gaunt nacelle I won't stop believing
no grandma take your meds
Yes
I still can't believe that's a real sticker
ngl the the burst rifle is growing on me
cornetto >>>>>>
...Algida sells outside of Italy?
Had no idea.
The only "industrial" food brand I ever saw in movies/tv series (excluding coffee brands) is Nutella.
zeta?
or is that just that im confooosing their ads for movies?
icl i thought nutella was american
LF1 R2D2 - 109775243240440831
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please calm down
now my actions will only be silliness
@astral cairn Today is not the day 😦
I tried my best
sleepy goober booper
Ironically today Sleepo Beepo got announced on GFL2 Global
:O
Alright guys, im borde, so im going to rage bait
Meelee weapons are bad cus the stealth sucks🎣
whatt
what do u sue
use
hammer 🫶
I use the bat🎣
What about the spear🎣
spear is good if u don't know stealth or enemy weak points
but it's a hinderance when u need to use ur melee in combat situations or when u need to run and hit
Il stick with the bat🎣
lmao
spear if you dont know weakpoints is even more ass 
r8c2 done, 2 lvls left 
this goddamn last tank i swear
and with checkpoint reset i should get all cells again and again
but cool lvl
especially loved to send bot to get cell in zone with 2 cscouts and tank xd
"pickup the objective"
Yeah I know it was a great run right up until the end
you know i really like the dark R4E1 with the little fog on bottom
looks really nice that way
Yeah R4E1 has my favorite atmosphere I've played so far
I agree
I disagree
have you even gotten to r4e1 yet
R4E1 is a really fun level
The secondary though is stressful, especially as a code-runner
(If you aren't stuck on defense duty 24/7)
(Losers have to defend waves while I wake up 5 scouts)
whatever role it is in reactor, its quaint enough to engage my brain
I like it tbh, makes me Feel ThingsTM
def is getting slowly boring ngl
||class 12 alarm on beginning of r8d2 , excuse me?||
||should prompt you about a terminal command somewhere||
||i went into east side, but 2 nm scouts + tank + blood door + another nm scout in one of the zones... i just left xd||
knowledge beats
||thats when you pray||
You can do the blood door without waking the room
yeah, i already passed it
Also the back zone is just res and cnades
i was rly concerned, that devs literally trolled players and made them fight this big room literally on lvl start 
do the alarm 12
11
u don't have to fight it
oh
i can't read again
||is it even worth to deal with class 7 alarm while removing portion of fog? according to video guide, second half of main obj still will be covered in fog and no way i am gonna do class 9||
worst case scenario you remove bots and take scatter and kite class 9
nah, i am gonna do class 5, lets see how it goes later
"according to video guide"
?
but there really is little to no reason to ever do 5 instead of 7 methinks
honestly 1 set will be enough if you do it the right way
i am watching explanations of what each alarm will spawn, no further 
I mean I just hope that scaler didnt say that
since you are likely watching their guide
will Darksaid be able to beat D2 and E2 with bots?
this will be a really interesting couple days
D2 isnt that bad
worst case
darksaid asks me
and he will first clear after
E2 is a kek
i smell some kind of big cheese 
e2 is probably fine
||lmao that ending of d2 sec " sector is useless "||
yeah, lorewise we are just exploring with our free will for the first time
we just went there to check
I wish him luck
bruh
MINE
he even texted it into my vc chat
I need it!!
he DM'D IT TO ME
it's mine though
it's the fkin seagulls meme going MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE
grrrrr
dw I got the 50 dollars
If I give you £20 can you give me the $50
I will give you nothing for the 50 dollars
easily
this is such a good offer
Which is why you should take it
i already spent the 50 dollars :(
I'll hack my dad's bank account then
MINE MINE MINE
Did someone post my steam gift card?
||okay, that double big scan on last alarm is brutal with bots
||
|| one of the Terminals that you used comand on Turns (or at least makes it much weaker) the Alarm for the middle circle Off 🤫 ||
🤔
u wanna do moving first
last time i asked a question in here several people mentioned "pulling" rooms, whats the correct way to do that?
shoot room, run away
wont that use a ton of ammo killing the sleepers that chase you though?
in time sensitive missions, it's better to spend that ammo
or in scenarios where stealthing the room isn't practical
i.e fog, ramping error
it also depends on if u have mines and a door, as u can just kill a lot of enemies with very little resources that way
maybe even a big room with a scout
what primary weapons are good on bots? specifically for dealing with scan alarms
Ammo isnt as scarce in most missions as many people think
Plus you can quite often simply use a single mine on a big door to kill even 20 enemies at once.
Beats having to slowly stealth and likely wake up the room, then having to deal with the enemies in an awake and unplanned for scenario
huhh burst rifle usually works very well due to its range and large ammo supply, hel revo does too cuz pierce and thats based
the 2 or the 3 round burst?
the burst rifle, which is a 3 burst i think
the 2 burst is the double tap rifle [or the burst pistol but well thats a pistol]
you could also look for groups here on discord
instead of playing with bots
it's much better:)
but my bishop :[
i worry that the people on here would either be too far above or below my skill level. like i dont want to get carried by a pro exploiter, but also want people that are good at the game, yknow
u can always ask to not b carried
has someone saying that actually prevented that
had i had a mic
usually just, makes them not join or disconnect
is there any trick to getting the bots to pick up objective items like fog turbines? theres an option in the chat commands but they dont seem to actually do it when i try
oh i see. that is where i was trying it lol
if u tell em to pick up something like a fog turbine before comb at they will hold onto it while on combat but
thats about it
and ifs something like a cell theyll drop it to fight
alright thanks
why is bishop bot shooting me so much??? is it my better bots mod or does he just do that sometimes...
hes using the burst cannon
iirc betterbots does make the bots shoot more
so you'll be more likely to get shot
but your chance of getting shot is also dependent on how you're playing/positioning around the bots
gay
it is betterbots yes
if you have a habit of meleeing enemies when shit hits the fan and you have at least 1 betterbot on you be prepared to get shot
i need e2 :D
i'm down for whatever
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nice
No they do that with vanilla too. Bots are horrifically bad at FF
bots don't have a problem with friendly fire. the issue is that 99% of those playing with bots are not good at the game and have poor positioning, leading to friendly fire. with decent play bots just don't friendly fire
No, bots absolutely have a problem with friendly fire. You can be standing completely still holding off a reactor wave, and bots will position themselves behind you and begin shooting, hitting you in the back. if you try to go in and melee enemies, even if it's the last few left, the bots will shoot you in the back without a second thought
They have literally no ability to check if their line of fire is clear
If a player sprints up to an enemy ready to smash it's head, the millisecond it aggros the bot will immediately fire, which is extremely likely to hit the player
you can argue these are problems but like
but nothing
have you considered playing around the bots
Yes believe it or not
ok so none of these are issues then good
centering my entire movement/positioning around making sure the bot doesn't shoot me in the back is actually not engaging or enjoyable
sounds like the bots just shouldn't shoot me in the back
that's fair
but it doesn't change that getting ff'd by the bots is on the player for not playing around it properly
no it's not. you can be sitting completely still next to cover and they'll move behind you, and you wouldn't even notice because you're focused on shooting enemies
god forbid you get in a team scan where enemies come from front/back. doesn't matter where you go then
how do i explain that "sitting completely still" is still an active choice
so you think it's good game design to have to be babysitting the bots and paying more attention to them than enemies
because they're a bigger threat to your health bar
no the game isn't designed with the bots in mind at all
That's great man. Too bad players still play with them
So the game isn't designed with bots in mind, but its the players fault when the poorly designed bots shoot them
it's a skill issue on the player because with skill it can be avoided
brain damage.
idk what you consider a skill issue but "taking damage avoidable by playing better" seems like a skill issue
you don't play with bots almost ever I can tell
i did a decent amount of bot testing a few weeks ago
maybe 10ish hours
never took any ff, ever
so almost none
dont believe that unless you play like someone who has 5 hours
because the second you do anything a higher-skill player does like running at enemies instead of crouchwalking up to every single one, you'd get shot in the back when they aggro
Me standing in front of a door waiting for the enemies to break it only for Dauda to shoot my back with the BC, downing me instantly
In that case is my fault? 🤔
To someone with brain damage, maybe
well yes because you know that the bots will do that/are likely to do that
so why are you positioning yourself in los between bots and door
This guy's ideal GTFO gameplay is centered around avoiding the bots instead of playing the gamae
And shot
there is absolutely nothing you can say that will change his mind
I'm not going to spend most of the time looking if the bot walks behind me instead of looking at the enemies
i made up my mind when i kept hearing bot ff was bad, tried it, and never got ff'd
it's an ego thing, the reason hes saying "skill issue" is so he can jerk his ego about being a epic pro who doesn't encounter these issues
But he doesn't actually play the game with bots, he did a bit of 'bot testing' and that was conclusive
ok pick a level where bots have ff issue
every single one
r1a1 you can get shot in the back doing the first alarm scans in front of the door, because the bots will hide behind you
ok that's wrong because i have done like 6 without taking ff, so pick on you want me to do without ff
like right now
I've played a good amount of E-tier 3-bot w/ triple BC, and haven't had issues getting FF'd
I've had issues w/ bots FFing each other, but I'm yet to get bursted
I ff more the bots than the bots do to me
^
Because genuinely they are so fucking stupid
I FF the bots maybe once a level but they hit me around 3 or 4 times at least, mainly when I rush enemies and they immediately open fire upon aggro
its kinda rare to get hit unless u just melee enemies all alarms and even so they should go melee with u
Ngl, I think if you have basic FF avoidance habits for multiplayer, they will transfer to bots for the most part.
Yeah for the most part
they absolutely do not, they barely melee when an enemy is in front of them
Then theres times the bots just do weird stuff
knows what causes them to be very likely to ff you
keeps doing it
"it's not a skill issue"
thewhat
the number one complaint i see is "bots melee too much when they should shoot"
I play GTFO with my one friend that still plays with me and we have probably FF'd each other one time in the entirety of our r8 playthrough, i don't think it transfers over too much
believe it or not, I don't like levels taking two hours because I have to crouchwalk up to every single enemy.
Do fast stealth
I like failing missions because my bots decided to go full melee vs 12 strikers 
I prefer them to shoot and waste ammo than going down against a BBC
That is probably more up to your duo dynamic.
I know with him, I can sit still and not expect him to press his gun barrel against the back of my neck
rather than being typical best play for pubs or in situations where you may want to allow teammates to continue shooting.
more than you can ask of any bot
Like, it's very normal for me to run along a wall if I go to melee something
Rather than straight ahead, where people are going for shots
but in a scenario like rushing a sleeping enemy, people shouldn't be going for shots in the first place
and neither should the ai
even a simple 300ms delay on bots firing on awakened enemies would probably eliminate just about every case of it
Their stealth AI is just not very good.
idk its kinda weird for bots to immediately shoot on aggro tbh, usually only when the doors opening, the little delay of u entering the room or wakin the room itself
or an enemy being very far away
reminds me of Ready or Not AI shooting the first frame a suspect pulls a gun
omg me
This is more likely to do w/ how you play stealth
If you're playing fairly aggro stealth, even in crowded rooms bots are very poorly behaved
John Wich AI; The Game
Makes them look like they just executed a mf lol
and are kind of eager to shoot on certain aggro types
i guess runnin stealth gets their nervous bot feels tick
Force aggro in particular doesn't interact well w/ bots
God I wish this game was still getting support. It seems like such an easy fix
I think they shoot the slow wake sometimes also, which is really annoying because light stagger is a much shorter animation that's harder to react to.
Realistically, the game isn’t meant to be played with 3 bots
1 bot AT MOST
That doesn't mean they can't improve the experience for people who do
More people means better stealth that kinda eliminates that problem
It’s a coop game
Bots already have numerous downsides compared to actual humans, I think less cases of brainless FF would not exactly put them in top tier
My favorite is in a chase sequence when I turn around to shut a door and mine it, and the bot phases through it and gets stuck on the other side
because he has to get ahead of me for some reason
Again, this game is intended to be played with 4 real people. Should really only be playing with 2 bots at the absolute maximum
You can play modded bots, also, tbf
^
I tried using no bot FF but i think the overhaul I made is conflicting with it cause it doesn't work
Should prob look into that at some point
These things still happen with 1 or 2 bots
True duo is the good shit (kind of).
Is a lot of fun, but requires a LOT more skill/effort
Me and a buddy beat KDS Deep vanilla with two bots
but had to disable/re-enable them a few times because they just don't stick close enough to you and get trapped behind doors you have to close
Biggest criticism of true duo I think is that single downs are so much more significant.
You become very unstable very easily if something goes wrong
For most players that aren't top-tier skill it's usually a game ender
I think even for very competent players, it lends to duo being a bit less enjoyable than quad
There is some fun in being able to stabilize really fucked situations
But the solution in duo to being de-facto less stable is to play more proactively, which can be a bit tedious.
Not sure if that's a bad thing - it's what keeps you on edge and what makes the format require strong gameplay; got to be locked in to do any difficult duos and mistakes are actually costly as opposed to in 4man where there are virtually no wipe conditions in most levels assuming strong players
anyone doing R2D2?
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Bots are better than players because they don’t require any social interaction
solo runs win
team can someone drop me an r8e1 lobby
studied the level a bit more and want a better solo
Just speedrun the other levels PLEASE
how many more r5e1s we gotta do before you guys decide on a static
we kinda have static except we never run because idk the others apparently have other stuff to do
did one session and nothing since ggs
Who’s the static
sky star me and 4th (kinda undecided, have ran with chad)
Should’ve just ran with my team when we speedran the r8 levels smh
frosty you should play with us every team needs the token shit ping player
pretty banger
Also Bots: stand in Front of you and Tank all the shots
Become a 2k hour Andy then talk to me
I’m down to speed tho
give me like 2 months
mfw im not allowed to run with frosty then
whenever you want to stop making fun of them
judging by this at 7k hours frosty will no longer make fun of me
I don’t think I’m ever getting to 7k hours
Maybe if I had a pc in og r1
I just don’t play as much anymore
Feb-march last year racking in almost 100 hours a week
I been playing more but theres just not rly anything good to do anymore
Play more modded
Or do more speeds rather than the same like 5 levels
Gotta start racking up those 100% times
I want to but for some reason my team is stuck on r4e1 brainrot
wanna do r8c2 and r6d2 100%
also modded sucks
Play PE or bliss
did oni reduce spawn cap yet
Idk
I haven’t played in a while but it was pretty fun back then
Though a bit unbalanced cause like first versions
yeah it was very bleh when we tried it
I didnt mind it too much cuz I like killing a lot of enemies but some shit was a bit much
@brisk oar yo bro lets play
How were you doing like
2 and a half 9 - 5s of GTFO every week
rolan d
Furiosio
No. Brandon was telling us that all he was doing was holding m1 and then e for the ammopack with no time for anything else
Ham ham pang pang
yeah thats what 2 of the 3 levels felt like
like the encounters were almost good they just boosted spawn cap for no reason
and that made it all slop
We've resorted to the easy strat of full sending all 4 people at the objective rather than having people hold BC there's simply not enough ammo
theres a lot of those
I need to play lob corp
Do you hate yourself
you dont ngl
Like T1-F1
that still doesnt narrow it down funnily enough
if the level name is aberration specifically thats chrysalis/samdown
Definitely not
samdown gets memed on a lot
somehow project eternal has the most downloads
I have no idea what any of the modded rundowns are tho
At least back in the day if you thought of modded, you thought of Fatal Experiment 
samdown gets an actual following of players
they are literally duoing lmao
We took on 2 others
Downed player affect enemy spawn location? For example, i have zones A, B, C, D, party is on zone A, but there are downed player in zone B, will enemies spawn in zone D because of this?
ngl running out of ammo on those levels is a skill issue
are you going to try and tell me the first alarm on the third level is good encounter design
Currently? Maybe since it is very new and people try it Out. But by all time it wont Beat Lockout, Fatal Experiment and samdown (although samdown is a paradox, everyone wants to Play it but Noone Had a Team for it)
full room scan might be better idk
i havent played that rundown since start of december
Iirc Spawn, but Not pathing
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downed players dont affect enemy spawning
they do affect respawn rooms but thats different
Okay, thanks
I had some tactic for r8d2 ending with this, if it worked
Guess i just brute force my way to exit
I do remember pushing spawns even though i was downed. Gotta Test that later
Who's hopping on that rundown x class 80 grind
also, how to do this? is this some kind of cheese, because on solo clears or video guides, players did both scans 🤔
and like you cant return to previous terminals on lvl before ||megamom||
You must do both. The Center one is just spawning a couple of enemies Here and there
thought they were complaining about the level while duoing it
fair enough
We realised the level of bs these levels were pulling
Middle scan spawns flyers, t scan spawns the waves of strikers and nightmares and stuff. You can 4 stack on the t scan and finish that first (since it scales its better to have more) then do the middle scan
Touch rundown x. I need my class 80 clear
yeah, i will do T scan first for sure
is that the custom tiles rundown
Ye
that levels weird
i blindly tried this yesterday one time and died and it was too late already for me to continuing
idk wtf malefic is saying
im curious what the intention for clearing it is
A sense of completion
I think it would give me a sense of wanting to kms more
Nothing new for you 
i wish i could buy like a kilogram of beef jerky
now were getting down to it
i just got 150g and it was $15 😵💫
From what i remember, they probably want you to full send the moving scans until you can get a cell
we called the moving scans kiting scans
Speedy bois
didnt play it much tho so idk
$15 for 150g of jerky wtf
didnt really think much about it
$9.30usd
In bri'sh
Still expensive
Lowkey cheap
I can buy so many mini eggs for that price
Beef Jerkey is just fucking expensive lol
thats like 2 cartons of eggs
Jorkin it fr
given you have the space for it anyways
ngl quad, didnt think you and brandon still played the game
Actually you dont if you do the right terminal in the autoscroller section
likely the easiest strat is do class 7 sec
Do all 3 terms in autoscroller section
Do t-scan
Do the thing after dual alarm
Then afk in middle scan since fog is gonna be gone
Been on that hearthstone hiatus
with bc their are not bad
just dont let them come close, like chargers
makes sense
well
they get closer slower
but when they are closer shit goes down more than with chargers
yeah, they punch rly hard and have more hp, not a good combo
also , i am gonna do class 7 today on sec, because running to 3 terminals later was a pain in fog, after i did class 5 xd
lol
not like it will matter later, because i am 100% sure boss fight will be inside fog still
rly? cause you do pretty big drop down
It's the same height as the previous room
Oh wait there's also a short ramp down into the zone
Theres 1 term thats like marginally in fog??
Oh wait
Missread
Yea doing class 5 is troll af
Its legit likely only ever a thing for 100% r8d2 speedruns
Can you explain this?
After t scan part
Does the door open after t scan???
I watched speedrun and indeed after doing T scan you can open sec door 🤔
It does if you did the closest to spawn terminal during the term section
Always assumed you need both to Open the door
Each terminal does unique things
You do if you dont do said term
W8, i always did 3 terminals
Yea you want to do 3


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