#gtfo-chat

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upper loom
hasty bobcat
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no

daring ginkgo
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fcking last tank on r8c2, no good place to defend vs him😡

lost lynx
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you can use the Machine as cover

hasty bobcat
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and u just ignore scan till he's dead

daring ginkgo
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i will try to find better place tomorrow, i died twice vs him, enough gtfo for today

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his random side spawn screwing me

burnt flume
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as if you need any more reasons to put a clown costume on

noble rose
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😋

noble rose
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bro

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down bad

rigid girder
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Hey guys, does anyone have passwords for R8A2 secondary mission?

shut vapor
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Fellas I hate to say it but Hel Shotgun sucks#

rigid girder
noble rose
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😡😡😡😡

sullen finch
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burst pistol go pew pew

serene jewel
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How do you use the sawed off well? And what do you usually pair with it? I assume hel gun/rifle

junior latch
serene jewel
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I think I tried it once and I think I just sucked at utilizing it

junior latch
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aim not for a head shot but like upper body i guess?

serene jewel
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Do you bother aiming for - ok

hasty bobcat
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u aim head for shooters

junior latch
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It pairs with everything ngl. But if you ignore general special strength it pairs well with some range if you want to get a bit of everything

hasty bobcat
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otherwise it's body

junior latch
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which usually is hel rifle yes

serene jewel
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Noted

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I use hel gun with a special damage booster lmao

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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^

serene jewel
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Love my one shot body shot

junior latch
junior latch
serene jewel
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Yeah but I can't spam hel rifle as much

hasty bobcat
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i mean

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if u play with boosters ig it doesn't matter

junior latch
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it rly doesnt ngl

serene jewel
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One shot body shotttttt

hasty bobcat
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when hel gun kill 9 in a clip always

junior latch
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Game isnt balanced around boosters at all

hasty bobcat
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is a bit too strong

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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i mean

junior latch
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booster buffed body kill hel gun is just

hasty bobcat
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it required brain to be busted

junior latch
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bruh

hasty bobcat
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but yeah

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bruh

junior latch
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no

hasty bobcat
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wdym no

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shoot heads !!

junior latch
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it requires brain to be broken

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its busted simply by having pen and better stats

hasty bobcat
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i mean if u hit 9 heads it's deserved

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yee

junior latch
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Requires brain (or lets say aim) is smth you can say for double tap

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double tap with non fitting gameplay is pretty meh

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but with great aim becomes good

hasty bobcat
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it's about getting used to i feel like

junior latch
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hel gun just goes from great to broken as long as you dont just… miss

hasty bobcat
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ye

junior latch
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Hel gun definetly isnt an instant pick up

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but booster hel gun…

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is

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and also is stupidly unfair vs strikers

hasty bobcat
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me when I play connect 3

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with a hel gun

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💀

serene jewel
hasty bobcat
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do u think .1 hel gun is higher skill ceiling

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than current

junior latch
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ceiling as in you can do more yea

hasty bobcat
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ye

junior latch
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you are a bit more limited with 0.2

But you also dont start out as cracked skill floor wise

hasty bobcat
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ye is fair

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there's hardly anyone who could actually optimise .1 hel gun i feel like and be cracked with it

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like most of the people would just miss more often prob

azure creek
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Hel gun or rifle?

sullen finch
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gun

hasty bobcat
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gun

junior latch
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its less that you can reach perfect aim and more that you can do more quick shots

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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i mean

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what if u need to aim with the quick shots

azure creek
junior latch
azure creek
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It felt like y'all were talking about hell rifle but calling it the hell gun

junior latch
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You arent forced to quickshoot

wraith marsh
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0.1 hel gun is just objectively better yea

junior latch
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you know why 0.1 is just better when you play it ngl

hasty bobcat
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I've played it

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it did feel better

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but it also felt harder

wraith marsh
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youre high

hasty bobcat
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chill remember u3 hold

junior latch
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i will never understand why breakthrough 2 had 0.1 max pen hel gun
and then nerfed hel rifle to 4 mag (also giving all other guns pen and giving bc a 12 mag)

wraith marsh
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bc modders dont understand balancing

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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i mean

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when i need to shoot 9 nightmare weakpoints

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like 2 clips in a row

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i have more time to aim with .2 instead of .1

junior latch
junior latch
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you dont

wraith marsh
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you have the same time

junior latch
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because 0.1 doesnt magically force you to shoot faster

hasty bobcat
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I'm mag dumping

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so

junior latch
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thats on you

hasty bobcat
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while aiming and shi

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but like that's the point

azure creek
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Can someone recommend a main weapon for me? I can use literally any type of gun and I have good aim

hasty bobcat
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u kinda have to mag dump there ngl

wraith marsh
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but its not a hel gun issue

noble rose
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wait isn't hip firing using the hel gun also better

junior latch
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….

hasty bobcat
wraith marsh
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if you need to mag dump

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you just die on 0.2

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??

azure creek
hasty bobcat
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yes u do

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die on .2

wraith marsh
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then why is this a hel gun discussion

hasty bobcat
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that's like the point

wraith marsh
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this is a u3 is a bad hold discussion

junior latch
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if you need to mag dump you can legit do that so much faster and get value with smth else quicker

hasty bobcat
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no i was saying like

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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it's harder in those type beat situations

azure creek
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Im usually the guy that holds down waves

junior latch
azure creek
hasty bobcat
wraith marsh
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its not harder tho

junior latch
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double tap for high aim/high reward (altho rly less than the top choices)

Dmr is similar to hel revo in aim and also good

wraith marsh
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bc you just die on 0.2

serene jewel
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Carbine if you want ease of use and power

hasty bobcat
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nah like

azure creek
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So no carbine or burst rifle?

hasty bobcat
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it's harder to use it to full potential

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than .2

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smth like that

wraith marsh
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that is a completely different point

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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oh

junior latch
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^ chills point

hasty bobcat
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I'm sorry I'm bad with explaining stuffs

junior latch
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is what i said above

hasty bobcat
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but that's what i meant basically

serene jewel
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Well headshot makes it a two burst at least vs 3 body

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Right

shut vapor
junior latch
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also idk how you can say that you will shoot worse with 0.1 hel gun in a situation where you are spamming 0.2

You can legit shoot 0.1 at a pace where you still aim. But you can also shoot faster than 0.2 off the bat

serene jewel
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Can sawed off one shot chargers too

burnt flume
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yes

junior latch
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Yes

burnt flume
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it has enough damage

serene jewel
burnt flume
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you need to land the pellets though

junior latch
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gotta hit everything in range tho

serene jewel
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What about nightmares

hasty bobcat
burnt flume
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also my opinion on hel gun - i prefer playing 0.2 because there's inbuilt protection against me being more wasteful than i already am
but the dps of 0.1 is so good

serene jewel
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I assume you need to be point blank on a tumor

hasty bobcat
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u get me

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like obv u can shoot slower if u need to

junior latch
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Thats why the gun is better straight up

wraith marsh
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so this was a worthless discussion from the start

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got it

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average

hasty bobcat
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i was just

hasty bobcat
junior latch
hasty bobcat
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that's all i meant

junior latch
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This was litteraly said early on in the discussion by myself

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happens

hasty bobcat
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maybe I'm sleep deprived

junior latch
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on that note

Am I wrong for feeling like dow having (only/mostly?) gun wielding enemies is a blunder?

hasty bobcat
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we didn't see everything yet so

junior latch
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I feel like the futuristic setting allows for enemies going for other type of attack styles

And bullets in a hitscan way are always either horrible or a non issue

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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ye

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bullets deal little to no damage prob

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or AI is cooked

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one of those

sullen finch
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when you fail a hack lock does the noise origionate from you or from the lock

hasty bobcat
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from the lock(?)

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at least that's what I'd like to think

junior latch
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even if it didnt
When would this make a difference really

hasty bobcat
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i mean

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i could see some stuff, but it's 1-2m dif max

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so never

wraith marsh
burnt flume
wraith marsh
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I havent played much payday but that was cuz it seemed pretty boring

burnt flume
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yeah it looked rather bleak from that leak but it's also early on and i didn't expect much in the first place to be honest

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but also it's kinda just, one of many

hasty bobcat
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the pr sounds are so goofy

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they should add thermal to that weapon

mystic moss
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gtfo alpha looked pretty ass

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let 10cc cook

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dow is gonna be goty material

junior latch
pine root
compact folio
lean estuary
noble rose
fleet kettle
burnt flume
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i've never played halo 2 lmaooooo

shut vapor
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Bruh my mother just asked if i was an incel 😭 💀

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How do i recover from this

junior latch
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are you sure it was incel and not intel

lost lynx
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No way Quad is an Intel CPU

shut vapor
shut vapor
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Faulty

sullen finch
shut vapor
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I make so many spoonerisms

rose nova
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watching sub-par gtfo yt content cuz theres no content in general

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:[

shut vapor
lost lynx
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battle cats

rose nova
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but i dont like battle cats

shut vapor
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No it's Visitor (rundown) gameplay

rose nova
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do u have a playlist

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or

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the channel

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pls

shut vapor
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Some classic r5 gameplay

compact folio
rose nova
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oh wait i confused it i do like battle cats

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however i like gtfo

compact folio
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Just do both then

wicked tapir
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game worth the money?

burnt flume
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depends how much playtime and enjoyment you derive from it

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there is enough in the game to be worth the money if you enjoy it

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if you do not enjoy it, it will not be worth the money

lost lynx
noble rose
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play rundown roulette :D

sullen finch
lost lynx
noble rose
sullen finch
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geep aourself yafe

rose nova
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goon urself strafe

visual lily
noble rose
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freaky

sullen finch
visual lily
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Yes

sullen finch
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its him. its john goon, inventor of gooning

visual lily
tropic drift
# visual lily

when you finally work up the courage to say hi to your stalker who you secretly have a crush on

rare wren
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Does anyone know what weapons were in OGR4?

pine root
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Only two guns unfortunately

rare wren
midnight mural
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trying to clear r2d1 for the first time, does anyone have any tips for how to handle big hordes in non-defensible positions? that finale is killing my group

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also please tell me the acid fog goes away after we clear r2... i dont know if its worth playing the game any longer if its present in all the future rundowns

rose nova
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i no wanna say "shoot them" but tbh idk if theres much more, 2 sentries set up works
also :]

rose nova
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it is in not as many levels as r2

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r2 introduced it and exploited it hard

lost lynx
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Usually the game gives you tools to deal with the fog

rose nova
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but the rest are a bit more measured

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same thing goes for all rundowns they tend to introduce something and exploit it

lost lynx
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Turbines, fog repellers and some levels have mechanics to remove it

rose nova
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and then it chills

rose nova
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i think they have seen those

gaunt nacelle
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I heard R2 slander fuck R2D1

lost lynx
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But trust me
There is way way worse stuff than spicy fog

midnight mural
lost lynx
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Welcome to GTFO

rose nova
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oh well but its just one zone

astral cairn
midnight mural
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but do the things worse than acid fog come with the turbine mechanic of "one of you isnt allowed to play the game anymore"?

rose nova
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omg we reachin the ominous quota yet?

lost lynx
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And help your team

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The fog takes a bit to come back

rose nova
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u also can have fog repellers to drop down in case its needed

lost lynx
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Sometimes you WILL have to drop it

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Or else youll get shit on

astral cairn
lost lynx
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Truly the GTFO experience

astral cairn
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it was all 4 in OG R2E1 if im not wrong

rose nova
midnight mural
lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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You probably will skip that level

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And come back later on

midnight mural
rose nova
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uhh u preferably dont

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thats a level to play with people

lost lynx
gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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Lol

rose nova
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but at least have a plan for what rooms

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not just any zone

lost lynx
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Plan is:
Shoot
Mine
Kill

gaunt nacelle
midnight mural
midnight mural
gaunt nacelle
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And which does cuz some needs preservation

midnight mural
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mine, bio, 2x sentry

lost lynx
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Guns

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I mean guns

rose nova
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except for a few alarms

astral cairn
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@midnight mural time to start pubbing SantonianWhatElse

rose nova
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the trick there is just rlly, try to find funnels between scans or run away from the enemies from time to time if necessary, the room is very afable to jumping around

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thats not the word to use but oh well

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apart from that just putting the sentries maybe not looking directly into ur entrances but along chokes u think enemies can funnel down

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maybe one on the first door u go in and the other near the little bridge

midnight mural
# lost lynx Guns

uhhh i have double tap rifle and precision rifle, my friend has heavy SMG and choke mod, the bots both have heavy smg and choke mod

lost lynx
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I see why now

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Remove the choke mod

rose nova
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i wouldd probs give the bots a mg

midnight mural
lost lynx
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Give the bots burst cannon/machinegun

rose nova
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as if

midnight mural
rose nova
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guns not meta omg ur losin!!!!

lost lynx
astral cairn
rose nova
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guns not the incredible top tier omg!!!

lost lynx
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Really bad

midnight mural
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nah they wreck rooms with it

rose nova
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thats the only part of the loadout i would try to fix

midnight mural
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oh also does anyone know a reliable way to make bots pick up items like fog repellers? seems really hit or miss

rose nova
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as burst cannon

midnight mural
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i'll give it a shot then

astral cairn
rose nova
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alsooo just gettin away from the box usually makes them pick up a resource

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but not much else

lost lynx
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Im pretty sure bots have a preference for fog repellers

rose nova
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they can be funny with it

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plus the 0% bug where a bot has 0% something and thus is prevented from grabbin anything else

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idk if it happens for consumables but it sure be for resources so

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idk if i would be surprised

lost lynx
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Well

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GTFO being GTFO

midnight mural
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in an alarm thing do the enemies spawn in waves or is it constant? like could we kill a big wave, then run forward and scan and repeat

rose nova
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its constant

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after u kill a wave nother one will respawn shortly after

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it does have a little timer between them but its better to rush up the scans and defend on them

midnight mural
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gross

rose nova
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unless it is like, very specific scenarios usually

lost lynx
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Wait until you see surges

rose nova
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in this case one of u could have both bots and focus scans

lost lynx
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Lol

rose nova
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and the other can rush up and defend

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as most scans on this level are big red circles and not clusters

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also i guess if u still have mines by the end

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u can always spam them in whatever place u see appropiate

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it is the last last part of the level so bit of a waste havin them on at the end

midnight mural
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if they arent on doors though they'll just get like 1 dude

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and all the doors into the cluster room are security ones that we cant close :/

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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They can only come from 2 doors can't they?

midnight mural
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they can come from like 6

gaunt nacelle
fringe garden
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the r2d1 gen alarm is heavily affected by span direction bias

lost lynx
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Im pretty sure one of the doors in the cluster room leaves to only one room which means enemies dont spawn there

midnight mural
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yeah the disinfect room is but there are a lot of others

fringe garden
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while there are like 6 valid rooms enemies can spawn in, they 99% of the time come just from elevator and class V direction

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with the latter being more common as well

midnight mural
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what do you mean by class v direction?

fringe garden
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one of the sec doors from gen room has a class 5 on it to unlock

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the 2nd alarm in the level

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enemies during gen alarm will come from that door over 50% (maybe 60%?) of the time, and the rest of the time they'll come from elevator (spawn)
they can spawn elsewhere but it's really really unlikely

midnight mural
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okay cool

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good to know, thanks

gaunt nacelle
lost lynx
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Bots with nades

gaunt nacelle
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But since ur two people always carry fogs

fringe garden
lost lynx
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This Game mechanics are so

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Fucking

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Stupid

gaunt nacelle
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Gtfo moment

lost lynx
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"oh yeah this is the rule, HOWEVER"
starts listing 10000000 situations where it doesnt/partially apply

gaunt nacelle
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French moment

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lol try figuring out if this alarm has a special spawn

mellow hedge
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Every bit of foam put on that door has gone to waste

fringe garden
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average

astral cairn
honest parrot
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Well at the very least we'll have a chance to do over a lot of those... eccentricities

flat scarab
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finally beat r5e1!

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last door is epic, but wouldn't want to play it again lol, crazy level

mellow hedge
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Time for cell skip

flat scarab
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now just want to play monster hunter

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this game is like working instead of relaxing lol

mellow hedge
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Monster hunter snooze

honest parrot
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MH is good

mellow hedge
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(I’ve never played it)

honest parrot
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I still prefer MHW tho

flat scarab
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it's relaxing at least

honest parrot
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I enjoy eating a household's worth of food in order to beat down a giant dragon with my ridiculously oversized instrument

flat scarab
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i often fails after 1+ hour attemp, and my teammate left which makes me heartbreaking

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
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Yea that door

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Fully foamed up

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😭🙏

mellow hedge
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Rip lmao

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Well it’s something you would never know unless you look into it

gaunt nacelle
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It’s fine I beat that level that run

gaunt nacelle
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Average GTFO moment

mellow hedge
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They also have a higher chance to spawn from uhhhhh

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Not extract side

gaunt nacelle
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I might be thinking of wrong door 🤔

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But I did put foam on a door

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And it went entirely useless

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Hopped in VC with a guy (he showed that uplinks doesn’t req terminal to stay ”active”) and I showed him and he was like rip

gaunt nacelle
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You don’t have to be near it

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Like you don’t even need Q Strat

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You can just hop off

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Run a billion miles away

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And code will still process

astral cairn
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well it does work that way for me

gaunt nacelle
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Yea but neither Eva nor I though so, that guy proved us wrong though

jaunty pollen
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@gaunt nacelle ilove cat

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but ..i really love furry cat

astral cairn
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put code in, do shooting run around, then i only come back when the new code catalogue shows up. or even on last code, once i put in, i can just run off

gaunt nacelle
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Nice to know that I can also run about

astral cairn
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i only learn this bc of solo trial kek

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its forces you to defend while doing uplinks by yourself

gaunt nacelle
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Yea

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I don’t do solo solo

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I do fake solo

astral cairn
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with bots u mean

gaunt nacelle
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Yes

astral cairn
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fake solo with bots is the easy mode

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pubbing tho. Now that kills your brain cells

gaunt nacelle
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Yea I’m shit if I’m gonna be honest lol

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I think I started feb or march

gaunt nacelle
mellow hedge
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We literally do it in our speeds

gaunt nacelle
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Ima need to go back and find these texts lol

gaunt nacelle
mellow hedge
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Oh

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I didn’t know for sure the all codes would process with terminal being inactive but it makes sense

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I knew the last one did tho for sure

gaunt nacelle
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Yea, all does and it’s such a relief to me lol

tropic drift
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@gaunt nacelle I won't stop believing

gaunt nacelle
tropic drift
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no grandma take your meds

shut vapor
gaunt nacelle
shut vapor
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I still can't believe that's a real sticker

gaunt nacelle
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W soy lol

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I was here when it was implemented

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Happened like a few days ago

tropic drift
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there's no need for that behavior here

gaunt nacelle
sharp owl
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ngl the the burst rifle is growing on me

tropic drift
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trash

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everybody knows the magnum is king

sharp owl
burnt flume
graceful geode
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...Algida sells outside of Italy?

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Had no idea.

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The only "industrial" food brand I ever saw in movies/tv series (excluding coffee brands) is Nutella.

gaunt nacelle
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zeta?

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or is that just that im confooosing their ads for movies?

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icl i thought nutella was american

tropic drift
# sharp owl

calm down
there's no need for that behavior here

final coyote
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LF1 R2D2 - 109775243240440831

gaunt nacelle
foggy plankBOT
tropic drift
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please calm down

gaunt nacelle
tropic drift
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Hackett_Heart I have your heart now

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omnomnomnom

gaunt nacelle
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now my actions will only be sillinessBabyShooter

modest trout
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@astral cairn Today is not the day 😦

graceful geode
noble rose
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sleepy goober booper

graceful geode
noble rose
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:O

urban trail
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Alright guys, im borde, so im going to rage bait

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Meelee weapons are bad cus the stealth sucks🎣

noble rose
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muh

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play rundown roulette ;)

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I actually made it gtfo themed now

noble rose
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what do u sue

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use

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hammer 🫶

urban trail
noble rose
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👹

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oh hell nah

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try the hammer or knife

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deadass

urban trail
noble rose
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spear is good if u don't know stealth or enemy weak points

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but it's a hinderance when u need to use ur melee in combat situations or when u need to run and hit

urban trail
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Il stick with the bat🎣

noble rose
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lmao

junior latch
noble rose
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oh lmao

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I mean i thought going for heads is instinctive

daring ginkgo
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r8c2 done, 2 lvls left Sweating

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this goddamn last tank i swear

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and with checkpoint reset i should get all cells again and again

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but cool lvl

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especially loved to send bot to get cell in zone with 2 cscouts and tank xd

earnest forge
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"pickup the objective"

modest trout
noble rose
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i just shoot bots on sight

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extra enemies for me

slender flare
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you know i really like the dark R4E1 with the little fog on bottom

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looks really nice that way

worthy flicker
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Yeah R4E1 has my favorite atmosphere I've played so far

slender flare
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I agree

tropic drift
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I disagree

honest parrot
tropic drift
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yeah. I beat the game.

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so

honest parrot
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even e2?

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Nice

stark idol
#

R4E1 is a really fun level

#

The secondary though is stressful, especially as a code-runner

honest parrot
stark idol
burnt flume
#

whatever role it is in reactor, its quaint enough to engage my brain

worthy flicker
hasty bobcat
slender flare
#

Defend together

#

endless reactor

daring ginkgo
#

||class 12 alarm on beginning of r8d2 , excuse me?||

burnt flume
daring ginkgo
#

||i went into east side, but 2 nm scouts + tank + blood door + another nm scout in one of the zones... i just left xd||

mellow hedge
daring ginkgo
#

yeah, i already passed it

mellow hedge
#

Also the back zone is just res and cnades

daring ginkgo
#

i was rly concerned, that devs literally trolled players and made them fight this big room literally on lvl start Sweating

lost lynx
#

do the alarm 12

lean estuary
#

11

hasty bobcat
#

oh

#

i can't read again

daring ginkgo
#

||is it even worth to deal with class 7 alarm while removing portion of fog? according to video guide, second half of main obj still will be covered in fog and no way i am gonna do class 9||

hasty bobcat
#

u just do class 7

#

someone counted that u need 6 fogs total or smth

fringe garden
#

worst case scenario you remove bots and take scatter and kite class 9

daring ginkgo
#

nah, i am gonna do class 5, lets see how it goes later

fringe garden
#

but there really is little to no reason to ever do 5 instead of 7 methinks

junior latch
daring ginkgo
junior latch
#

since you are likely watching their guide

lost lynx
#

will Darksaid be able to beat D2 and E2 with bots?
this will be a really interesting couple days

junior latch
#

D2 isnt that bad

#

worst case

#

darksaid asks me

#

and he will first clear after

#

E2 is a kek

daring ginkgo
#

i smell some kind of big cheese Sweating

wraith marsh
#

e2 is probably fine

daring ginkgo
#

||lmao that ending of d2 sec " sector is useless "||

lost lynx
#

we just went there to check

slender flare
#

wait really

#

I did not know that

hearty flare
#

bruh

slender flare
#

someone got hacked

#

should i ping mods

hearty flare
#

yeah probably

#

wait isn't there a dm me to dm mods bot

junior latch
#

dis mine

#

<@&408548765599793173>

hoary crescent
#

i got it

#

mine

slender flare
#

NO IT'S MINE

#

😭

hearty flare
#

MINE

hoary crescent
#

he even texted it into my vc chat

slender flare
#

I need it!!

hoary crescent
#

he DM'D IT TO ME

slender flare
hoary crescent
#

too late

#

already redeemed

hearty flare
#

it's the fkin seagulls meme going MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE

hoary crescent
#

losers stay losing

#

bye

slender flare
#

grrrrr

hazy nimbus
#

dw I got the 50 dollars

slender flare
#

So you're the one who took it from us

#

how could you

shut vapor
slender flare
#

I will give you nothing for the 50 dollars

hazy nimbus
hazy nimbus
slender flare
#

Which is why you should take it

hazy nimbus
#

i already spent the 50 dollars :(

slender flare
#

Puts on hacking sunglasses

#

That's it

#

I'll get them back myself trust

hazy nimbus
#

hacking steam accs sounds like a bad idea with their support :(

#

i give u 1 dollar

slender flare
slender flare
#

i'm happy now

lost lynx
#

MINE MINE MINE

gaunt nacelle
#

Did someone post my steam gift card?

daring ginkgo
#

||okay, that double big scan on last alarm is brutal with bots BabyShooter ||

near stag
daring ginkgo
#

🤔

midnight mural
#

last time i asked a question in here several people mentioned "pulling" rooms, whats the correct way to do that?

mystic moss
#

shoot room, run away

midnight mural
#

wont that use a ton of ammo killing the sleepers that chase you though?

mystic moss
#

in time sensitive missions, it's better to spend that ammo

#

or in scenarios where stealthing the room isn't practical

#

i.e fog, ramping error

rose nova
#

it also depends on if u have mines and a door, as u can just kill a lot of enemies with very little resources that way

#

maybe even a big room with a scout

midnight mural
#

what primary weapons are good on bots? specifically for dealing with scan alarms

junior latch
rose nova
midnight mural
#

the 2 or the 3 round burst?

rose nova
#

the burst rifle, which is a 3 burst i think

#

the 2 burst is the double tap rifle [or the burst pistol but well thats a pistol]

hoary crescent
#

you could also look for groups here on discord

#

instead of playing with bots

#

it's much better:)

rose nova
#

but my bishop :[

midnight mural
#

i worry that the people on here would either be too far above or below my skill level. like i dont want to get carried by a pro exploiter, but also want people that are good at the game, yknow

rose nova
#

u can always ask to not b carried

mystic moss
#

has someone saying that actually prevented that

rose nova
#

had i had a mic
usually just, makes them not join or disconnect

midnight mural
#

is there any trick to getting the bots to pick up objective items like fog turbines? theres an option in the chat commands but they dont seem to actually do it when i try

rose nova
#

they cant on error alarms

#

or constant combat

midnight mural
#

oh i see. that is where i was trying it lol

rose nova
#

if u tell em to pick up something like a fog turbine before comb at they will hold onto it while on combat but

#

thats about it

#

and ifs something like a cell theyll drop it to fight

midnight mural
#

alright thanks

dim forge
#

why is bishop bot shooting me so much??? is it my better bots mod or does he just do that sometimes...

#

hes using the burst cannon

burnt flume
#

iirc betterbots does make the bots shoot more

#

so you'll be more likely to get shot

#

but your chance of getting shot is also dependent on how you're playing/positioning around the bots

latent palm
pastel dagger
#

if you have a habit of meleeing enemies when shit hits the fan and you have at least 1 betterbot on you be prepared to get shot

boreal venture
#

anyone need a level cleared

#

I got 3 open spots

rose nova
feral rose
rose nova
#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
boreal venture
rough robin
fringe garden
#

bots don't have a problem with friendly fire. the issue is that 99% of those playing with bots are not good at the game and have poor positioning, leading to friendly fire. with decent play bots just don't friendly fire

rough robin
#

No, bots absolutely have a problem with friendly fire. You can be standing completely still holding off a reactor wave, and bots will position themselves behind you and begin shooting, hitting you in the back. if you try to go in and melee enemies, even if it's the last few left, the bots will shoot you in the back without a second thought

#

They have literally no ability to check if their line of fire is clear

#

If a player sprints up to an enemy ready to smash it's head, the millisecond it aggros the bot will immediately fire, which is extremely likely to hit the player

fringe garden
#

you can argue these are problems but like

rough robin
#

but nothing

fringe garden
#

have you considered playing around the bots

rough robin
#

Yes believe it or not

fringe garden
#

ok so none of these are issues then good

rough robin
#

centering my entire movement/positioning around making sure the bot doesn't shoot me in the back is actually not engaging or enjoyable

#

sounds like the bots just shouldn't shoot me in the back

fringe garden
#

that's fair

#

but it doesn't change that getting ff'd by the bots is on the player for not playing around it properly

rough robin
#

no it's not. you can be sitting completely still next to cover and they'll move behind you, and you wouldn't even notice because you're focused on shooting enemies

#

god forbid you get in a team scan where enemies come from front/back. doesn't matter where you go then

fringe garden
#

how do i explain that "sitting completely still" is still an active choice

rough robin
#

so you think it's good game design to have to be babysitting the bots and paying more attention to them than enemies

#

because they're a bigger threat to your health bar

fringe garden
#

no the game isn't designed with the bots in mind at all

rough robin
#

That's great man. Too bad players still play with them

#

So the game isn't designed with bots in mind, but its the players fault when the poorly designed bots shoot them

fringe garden
#

it's a skill issue on the player because with skill it can be avoided

rough robin
#

brain damage.

fringe garden
#

idk what you consider a skill issue but "taking damage avoidable by playing better" seems like a skill issue

rough robin
#

you don't play with bots almost ever I can tell

fringe garden
#

i did a decent amount of bot testing a few weeks ago

#

maybe 10ish hours

#

never took any ff, ever

rough robin
#

so almost none

#

dont believe that unless you play like someone who has 5 hours

#

because the second you do anything a higher-skill player does like running at enemies instead of crouchwalking up to every single one, you'd get shot in the back when they aggro

lost lynx
#

Me standing in front of a door waiting for the enemies to break it only for Dauda to shoot my back with the BC, downing me instantly

#

In that case is my fault? 🤔

rough robin
#

To someone with brain damage, maybe

fringe garden
#

well yes because you know that the bots will do that/are likely to do that

#

so why are you positioning yourself in los between bots and door

lost lynx
#

I wasnt

#

He walked behind me

rough robin
#

This guy's ideal GTFO gameplay is centered around avoiding the bots instead of playing the gamae

lost lynx
#

And shot

rough robin
lost lynx
#

I'm not going to spend most of the time looking if the bot walks behind me instead of looking at the enemies

fringe garden
#

i made up my mind when i kept hearing bot ff was bad, tried it, and never got ff'd

rough robin
#

it's an ego thing, the reason hes saying "skill issue" is so he can jerk his ego about being a epic pro who doesn't encounter these issues

#

But he doesn't actually play the game with bots, he did a bit of 'bot testing' and that was conclusive

fringe garden
#

ok pick a level where bots have ff issue

rough robin
#

every single one

#

r1a1 you can get shot in the back doing the first alarm scans in front of the door, because the bots will hide behind you

fringe garden
#

ok that's wrong because i have done like 6 without taking ff, so pick on you want me to do without ff

lost lynx
#

I also FF bots because they walk in front of me in the middle of an alarm

#

Lol

fringe garden
#

like right now

modern coral
#

I've had issues w/ bots FFing each other, but I'm yet to get bursted

lost lynx
#

I ff more the bots than the bots do to me

modern coral
#

^

lost lynx
#

Because genuinely they are so fucking stupid

rough robin
#

I FF the bots maybe once a level but they hit me around 3 or 4 times at least, mainly when I rush enemies and they immediately open fire upon aggro

rose nova
#

its kinda rare to get hit unless u just melee enemies all alarms and even so they should go melee with u

modern coral
#

Ngl, I think if you have basic FF avoidance habits for multiplayer, they will transfer to bots for the most part.

lost lynx
#

Yeah for the most part

rough robin
lost lynx
#

Then theres times the bots just do weird stuff

fringe garden
rose nova
#

the number one complaint i see is "bots melee too much when they should shoot"

rough robin
rough robin
lost lynx
#

Do fast stealth

compact folio
lost lynx
#

I prefer them to shoot and waste ammo than going down against a BBC

modern coral
rough robin
#

I know with him, I can sit still and not expect him to press his gun barrel against the back of my neck

modern coral
#

rather than being typical best play for pubs or in situations where you may want to allow teammates to continue shooting.

rough robin
#

more than you can ask of any bot

modern coral
#

Like, it's very normal for me to run along a wall if I go to melee something

#

Rather than straight ahead, where people are going for shots

rough robin
#

but in a scenario like rushing a sleeping enemy, people shouldn't be going for shots in the first place

#

and neither should the ai

#

even a simple 300ms delay on bots firing on awakened enemies would probably eliminate just about every case of it

modern coral
#

Their stealth AI is just not very good.

rose nova
#

idk its kinda weird for bots to immediately shoot on aggro tbh, usually only when the doors opening, the little delay of u entering the room or wakin the room itself

#

or an enemy being very far away

rough robin
#

reminds me of Ready or Not AI shooting the first frame a suspect pulls a gun

rose nova
#

omg me

modern coral
#

If you're playing fairly aggro stealth, even in crowded rooms bots are very poorly behaved

rough robin
modern coral
#

and are kind of eager to shoot on certain aggro types

rose nova
#

i guess runnin stealth gets their nervous bot feels tick

modern coral
#

Force aggro in particular doesn't interact well w/ bots

rough robin
#

God I wish this game was still getting support. It seems like such an easy fix

modern coral
#

I think they shoot the slow wake sometimes also, which is really annoying because light stagger is a much shorter animation that's harder to react to.

rough robin
#

^^ also a problem

#

they get enemies moving faster

mellow hedge
#

Realistically, the game isn’t meant to be played with 3 bots

lost lynx
#

1 bot AT MOST

rough robin
#

That doesn't mean they can't improve the experience for people who do

mellow hedge
#

More people means better stealth that kinda eliminates that problem

rough robin
#

Bots already have numerous downsides compared to actual humans, I think less cases of brainless FF would not exactly put them in top tier

#

My favorite is in a chase sequence when I turn around to shut a door and mine it, and the bot phases through it and gets stuck on the other side

#

because he has to get ahead of me for some reason

mellow hedge
#

Again, this game is intended to be played with 4 real people. Should really only be playing with 2 bots at the absolute maximum

modern coral
#

You can play modded bots, also, tbf

mellow hedge
#

^

rough robin
#

Should prob look into that at some point

rough robin
modern coral
#

True duo is the good shit (kind of).

rough robin
#

Is a lot of fun, but requires a LOT more skill/effort

#

Me and a buddy beat KDS Deep vanilla with two bots

#

but had to disable/re-enable them a few times because they just don't stick close enough to you and get trapped behind doors you have to close

modern coral
#

Biggest criticism of true duo I think is that single downs are so much more significant.

#

You become very unstable very easily if something goes wrong

rough robin
#

For most players that aren't top-tier skill it's usually a game ender

modern coral
#

I think even for very competent players, it lends to duo being a bit less enjoyable than quad

#

There is some fun in being able to stabilize really fucked situations

#

But the solution in duo to being de-facto less stable is to play more proactively, which can be a bit tedious.

fringe garden
final coyote
#

anyone doing R2D2?

blissful dome
foggy plankBOT
gaunt nacelle
sharp owl
#

Bots are better than players because they don’t require any social interaction

rose nova
#

solo runs win

fringe garden
#

team can someone drop me an r8e1 lobby

#

studied the level a bit more and want a better solo

mellow hedge
fringe garden
#

frosty with what team (i kinda have a team)

#

ill just go solo them then

wraith marsh
#

how many more r5e1s we gotta do before you guys decide on a static

fringe garden
#

we kinda have static except we never run because idk the others apparently have other stuff to do

#

did one session and nothing since ggs

mellow hedge
#

Who’s the static

fringe garden
#

sky star me and 4th (kinda undecided, have ran with chad)

mellow hedge
#

Should’ve just ran with my team when we speedran the r8 levels smh

fringe garden
#

frosty you should play with us every team needs the token shit ping player

wraith marsh
#

pretty banger

near stag
mellow hedge
#

I’m down to speed tho

fringe garden
wraith marsh
#

mfw im not allowed to run with frosty then

mellow hedge
#

At what point are you not an Andy

#

Like 7k hour Andy just doesn’t sound right

wraith marsh
#

whenever you want to stop making fun of them

fringe garden
#

judging by this at 7k hours frosty will no longer make fun of me

mellow hedge
#

I don’t think I’m ever getting to 7k hours

#

Maybe if I had a pc in og r1

#

I just don’t play as much anymore

#

Feb-march last year racking in almost 100 hours a week

wraith marsh
#

I been playing more but theres just not rly anything good to do anymore

mellow hedge
#

Play more modded

#

Or do more speeds rather than the same like 5 levels

#

Gotta start racking up those 100% times

wraith marsh
#

I want to but for some reason my team is stuck on r4e1 brainrot

#

wanna do r8c2 and r6d2 100%

#

also modded sucks

mellow hedge
#

Play PE or bliss

mellow hedge
#

Seems cool

wraith marsh
#

did oni reduce spawn cap yet

mellow hedge
#

Idk

#

I haven’t played in a while but it was pretty fun back then

#

Though a bit unbalanced cause like first versions

wraith marsh
#

yeah it was very bleh when we tried it

#

I didnt mind it too much cuz I like killing a lot of enemies but some shit was a bit much

robust dawn
#

@brisk oar yo bro lets play

rare wren
#

2 and a half 9 - 5s of GTFO every week

wraith marsh
#

rolan d

honest parrot
#

coffee or tea

sharp owl
#

Furiosio

shut vapor
wraith marsh
#

its a binah floor art/cutscene

sharp owl
#

Ham ham pang pang

wraith marsh
#

like the encounters were almost good they just boosted spawn cap for no reason

#

and that made it all slop

shut vapor
#

We've resorted to the easy strat of full sending all 4 people at the objective rather than having people hold BC there's simply not enough ammo

rare wren
#

What's the one modded Rundown that's got the F level?

#

Like Aberration

wraith marsh
#

theres a lot of those

sharp owl
#

I need to play lob corp

shut vapor
wraith marsh
#

you dont ngl

sharp owl
#

Yes I do

rare wren
wraith marsh
#

that still doesnt narrow it down funnily enough

#

if the level name is aberration specifically thats chrysalis/samdown

rare wren
#

Yea that

#

I've seen it around a lot

#

Is it the most popular modded Rundown?

shut vapor
#

Definitely not

honest parrot
#

samdown gets memed on a lot

wraith marsh
#

somehow project eternal has the most downloads

honest parrot
#

I have no idea what any of the modded rundowns are tho

shut vapor
#

At least back in the day if you thought of modded, you thought of Fatal Experiment SCsobbing2

wraith marsh
#

samdown gets an actual following of players

mellow hedge
shut vapor
#

We took on 2 others

daring ginkgo
#

Downed player affect enemy spawn location? For example, i have zones A, B, C, D, party is on zone A, but there are downed player in zone B, will enemies spawn in zone D because of this?

mellow hedge
#

ngl running out of ammo on those levels is a skill issue

shut vapor
#

Real

#

I'm only a 1k hour andy

#

So I super skill issue

wraith marsh
near stag
# rare wren Is it the most popular modded Rundown?

Currently? Maybe since it is very new and people try it Out. But by all time it wont Beat Lockout, Fatal Experiment and samdown (although samdown is a paradox, everyone wants to Play it but Noone Had a Team for it)

mellow hedge
#

i havent played that rundown since start of december

wraith marsh
#

then why comment

#

what point are you trying to make

near stag
#

Iirc Spawn, but Not pathing

wraith marsh
#

downed players dont affect enemy spawning

#

they do affect respawn rooms but thats different

daring ginkgo
#

Okay, thanks

#

I had some tactic for r8d2 ending with this, if it worked

#

Guess i just brute force my way to exit

near stag
shut vapor
#

Who's hopping on that rundown x class 80 grind

daring ginkgo
#

and like you cant return to previous terminals on lvl before ||megamom||

near stag
wraith marsh
#

idk I should find ppl who are willing to touch bliss again

#

idc atp

mellow hedge
wraith marsh
#

fair enough

shut vapor
#

We realised the level of bs these levels were pulling

mellow hedge
shut vapor
daring ginkgo
#

yeah, i will do T scan first for sure

wraith marsh
#

is that the custom tiles rundown

shut vapor
#

Ye

wraith marsh
#

that levels weird

daring ginkgo
#

i blindly tried this yesterday one time and died and it was too late already for me to continuing

mellow hedge
wraith marsh
#

im curious what the intention for clearing it is

shut vapor
#

A sense of completion

mellow hedge
#

I think it would give me a sense of wanting to kms more

shut vapor
#

Nothing new for you malice

wraith marsh
#

I mean like what strat they want you to use

#

damn

mellow hedge
#

i wish i could buy like a kilogram of beef jerky

wraith marsh
#

now were getting down to it

mellow hedge
#

i just got 150g and it was $15 😵‍💫

shut vapor
#

From what i remember, they probably want you to full send the moving scans until you can get a cell

wraith marsh
#

we called the moving scans kiting scans

shut vapor
#

Speedy bois

wraith marsh
#

didnt play it much tho so idk

shut vapor
#

$15 for 150g of jerky wtf

wraith marsh
#

didnt really think much about it

mellow hedge
shut vapor
#

In bri'sh

mellow hedge
#

uhhhh

#

7.17 pounds

shut vapor
#

Still expensive

rare wren
shut vapor
#

I can buy so many mini eggs for that price

rare wren
#

Beef Jerkey is just fucking expensive lol

mellow hedge
#

thats like 2 cartons of eggs

rare wren
#

I gotta start like

#

Jerkying my own Beef it has to be cheaper

shut vapor
#

Jorkin it fr

mellow hedge
#

you can just dry age meat

#

its very easy

shut vapor
honest parrot
#

given you have the space for it anyways

wraith marsh
#

ngl quad, didnt think you and brandon still played the game

junior latch
mellow hedge
#

^

#

we skip the mid scan in our speedrun

junior latch
#

likely the easiest strat is do class 7 sec
Do all 3 terms in autoscroller section
Do t-scan
Do the thing after dual alarm
Then afk in middle scan since fog is gonna be gone

wraith marsh
#

how well do bots fight nightmares actually

#

ive never thought about it

shut vapor
daring ginkgo
#

just dont let them come close, like chargers

wraith marsh
#

makes sense

junior latch
#

well

#

they get closer slower

but when they are closer shit goes down more than with chargers

daring ginkgo
#

yeah, they punch rly hard and have more hp, not a good combo

#

also , i am gonna do class 7 today on sec, because running to 3 terminals later was a pain in fog, after i did class 5 xd

shut vapor
#

lol

daring ginkgo
#

not like it will matter later, because i am 100% sure boss fight will be inside fog still

shut vapor
#

Uhhhhhh

#

I think your head is just barely above fog

daring ginkgo
#

rly? cause you do pretty big drop down

shut vapor
#

It's the same height as the previous room

#

Oh wait there's also a short ramp down into the zone

junior latch
#

Oh wait

#

Missread

#

Yea doing class 5 is troll af

#

Its legit likely only ever a thing for 100% r8d2 speedruns

daring ginkgo
#

After t scan part

shut vapor
#

Does the door open after t scan???

daring ginkgo
#

I watched speedrun and indeed after doing T scan you can open sec door 🤔

junior latch
#

It does if you did the closest to spawn terminal during the term section

near stag
junior latch
#

Each terminal does unique things

junior latch
daring ginkgo
#

W8, i always did 3 terminals

junior latch
#

Yea you want to do 3