gtfo-chat

[lunar island]

difficulty spikes in r4 and r5 then drops again

then rises in r8

[lost lynx]

R6 is mid difficulty and only like 2 hard levels
R7 has like 2 hard levels too

R6CX and R6D4 can be really bad

[lunar island]

r6 was 1.0 release. it was way easier than previous rundowns for the newbs.

[mellow hedge]

still decently harder than r1, r3 and maybe r2

[pastel dagger]

WTF

sleeping giants can spawn on r1c1?

[naive rover]

I have not seen that but then again I’ve only played the level like 6 times lol

[pastel dagger]

i played it like 30

[naive rover]

Did you get smacked good?

[pastel dagger]

noob mates did

[naive rover]

Lol

Suuuuper tough

[sly epoch]

Yes they can, we encountered some :D

Actually, I was gonna ask, any advice on taking them? Cob was trying to solo one with a hammer but he kept missing.. and I don't think knife can help with giants

[mellow hedge]

just shoot

if you cant deal with it

[modern coral]

Knife can get you limb breaks, but yeah prolly just shoot it

[sly epoch]

Noted.. because he was trying to break the limbs with a hammer but he kept missing so yeah, he saw you could basically kill it on meele with only one person if you break all limbs-

[pastel dagger]

how new are u

[lost lynx]

Charged hit to limbs

[sly epoch]

Uuuh.. we started playing like last week more or less, right? @distant yoke

I think so at least.

[lost lynx]

You can perma stagger giants by limb breaking them

[pastel dagger]

so for your mate

melee crosshair shrink = in range to hit enemy = let go of charge

[distant yoke]

smth to that effect

[distant yoke]

What I was doing was trying to hit the head for first hit but apparently I can't aim to save my life

[lost lynx]

You can do arms and legs too

If you struggle with head

[distant yoke]

Thats what I was basically trying to replicate

I wasnt expecting to be able to do it easily but I figured I should start trying to that effect

[violet bay]

Use a hammer and hit its limbs first and then a final hit to the back of the head

[distant yoke]

Hrm I see

[violet bay]

Exactly

[mellow hedge]

jump

[pastel dagger]

jump king

[lost lynx]

Space bar

[pastel dagger]

aim higher in general with sledge

a bit

[lost lynx]

Same applies for scouts

[distant yoke]

now see I was jumping but the moment I jump I turn into an idiot who cant aim apparently

[violet bay]

Just jump, you'll get the hang of it bro

[distant yoke]

Just one more jump bro, I promise its just one more jump

In all seriousness I know part of the game is just getting good at it

[violet bay]

Mhmm

It'll take time

If ur having troubles at first

Use a spear

[distant yoke]

I was

[mellow hedge]

No

[distant yoke]

but uh

[violet bay]

Even though it has a longer range

[mellow hedge]

Get used to hammer

[lost lynx]

Do NOT use spear

[mellow hedge]

Using spear wont help

[violet bay]

It has a fucked reload time

[distant yoke]

I was "discouraged" to say the least

[violet bay]

Yes, hammer is always the priority

[lost lynx]

Spear is a massive crutch that doesnt help at getting better

(also not being able to sprint while charging Will get you in trouble)

[violet bay]

True

I stopped using spears after R1

Been using the knife and hammer ever since

[distant yoke]

I used spear for basically of r1a1/r1b1/r1b2 before getting told in no uncertain terms that I should not be using spear

[violet bay]

Yeah it has shit reload time bruv

[sly epoch]

And now that has happened with the HaR too LOL

[violet bay]

And u can't sprint while charging it

[lost lynx]

You are going to get absolute cooked by using spear later in the game

[violet bay]

💀💀fr

[distant yoke]

Which also partially stemmed from a very dumb misunderstanding of mine that spear was more needed then it actually was

[sly epoch]

Tbh I thought I would get the same treatment for using knife-

[sly epoch]

It happens, we learnt our lesson and got the info

[lost lynx]

All melees are good
Except spear

[sly epoch]

I genuinely thought spear was the only one that killed scouts since you did say it

[lost lynx]

[distant yoke]

Thats the impression I got

look

[lost lynx]

Where is this misinfo coming from

[distant yoke]

I dont even know where I got that impression from okay

I just did

and I'm dumb for that

[lost lynx]

We must exterminate the misinfo

[violet bay]

Knife is absolute killing machines, if u are playing one with no giant enemies ofc

[lost lynx]

Nah, it's fine

[violet bay]

If there are just smol bois, knife them off

[distant yoke]

Misinfo is a fucking bitch and a half in any game

[violet bay]

Continuous slashing and it's fast af

[pastel dagger]

if you are host use knife

[violet bay]

That's how we learn

[pastel dagger]

if you are not its usability varies

[mellow hedge]

just get better

[lost lynx]

just dont die

[mellow hedge]

dont serve the ping

[distant yoke]

I'm usually host 💀

[mellow hedge]

make the ping serve you

[distant yoke]

so true

[violet bay]

Real

[sly epoch]

Tbf when you see how big scouts are compared to like little ones I get it

[lost lynx]

You havent seen the funny scouts yet

[sly epoch]

Tbh Idk when giants will become common enemies (if they do) so I am just using knife until it seems useless

[lost lynx]

And the extra funnier

And the most funnier of them all

[violet bay]

💀wait til u see R3D1

[sly epoch]

Tho at one point I was basically cursing myself for having it since cob knows which room I had to do alone

[distant yoke]

We're vaguely aware of the future enemies although I'm pretty sure I know more then taka on what kinds exist

[sly epoch]

I do wanna keep surprises for the future but knowledge is important so Idm being spoiled a tiny bit

[distant yoke]

I still think we were better off just reseting tbh

like yes it was clutch but we should have just reset

[lost lynx]

Dont get spoild about enemy types

[sly epoch]

But I did cook

[lost lynx]

Or bosses/mini bosses

[sly epoch]

Just took half an hour stealthing that one room in

What was it?-

[lost lynx]

They are one of the best parts of the game

[distant yoke]

lemme find it

#gtfo-media message

[sly epoch]

YEAH that room lol

[sly epoch]

Weren't we thinking at that time using just sentries? Which would have been horrible

Considering.. well what it has

[naive rover]

Yes seeing the new enemy for the first time is one of my favorite moments. Open door, finish alarm, and then suddenly “Guys? Guys what the fuck is that thing???”

[distant yoke]

Our logic was something along the lines of it'll probably be fine since we can just stealth and even if we aggro we can just turret the room

as taka would learn as they got further into the room:

no it was not fine

[sly epoch]

Better than doing turrets because uh.. we would have probably not lived that 💀

Since that was the other idea we did have at that time

[distant yoke]

whatca count? 13 giants?

[lost lynx]

13 giants? Cute

[distant yoke]

Look its a lot for us

lmao

[sly epoch]

Yeah

We were running what

[lost lynx]

Understandable
I used to shit my pants by just one

[sly epoch]

The thermal gun? Pow something?

[distant yoke]

basically nothing actually anti-giant

[sly epoch]

Which Ik isn't the best either, then some random weapons

Yeaaah..

[lost lynx]

PDW and PR are the only guns with thermals

PDW is decent-ish
PR can be really strong

(PR is precision rifle)

[distant yoke]

our idea of killing giants was "okay we have turrets weaken them and I finish them off with combat shotgun"

As we learn

no that isnt very effective when theres like 5 giants approaching and even using cover/stairs/etc its fucking stressful for us

not to mention little fuckers running

[pastel dagger]

or just 2 tap them with sawed off in the back

[lost lynx]

Sometimes shooting a room with 20 giants is the best choice

GTFO is a "stealth" game
But stealth isnt always the answer

[sly epoch]

Tbf I think if you had something longer distance it could work

But uh.. combat shotgun.. yeah shotguns are probably not that good at long distances..

[distant yoke]

maybe but combat shotgun was literally our "answer" in that level which when considering the giant count meant our run was basically dead because we barely any ammo going into the room

and we're not good enough to kill giants with melee yet or know the kiting tricks

[lost lynx]

Kiting = run in circles

[distant yoke]

anyways yea that was certainly an experience of a level

[sly epoch]

I Think we took like 5 minutes in the ending screen after that one

It was THAT stressful

[distant yoke]

yes, yes we did

I had to fucking listen to you talking past the door and be ready to run at any moment

[sly epoch]

BRo that room alone took a couple years of my life for sure

[distant yoke]

and it only got worse and worse the more giants ya mentioned there were

[sly epoch]

Bro I was full on panicking but knew there was no way back once I was in there to search for IDs.

[distant yoke]

I mean to an extent we know what enemies exist vaguely but we have no fucking clue when they start to appear or what good tactics are against them lmao

[lost lynx]

You guys will have a lot of fun i can already tell

[distant yoke]

Oh we love this game

lmao

[sly epoch]

We do love it

Even if we suffer because of it LOL

[distant yoke]

Just praying that friend of yar becomes as invested as we are

[sly epoch]

Well the guy I told you about has alwys wanted to try it out but he really doesn't have the money

So once he does, he should be able to join us

The problem is more so the schedule but we can work around that

[distant yoke]

I see I see

[violet bay]

I mean if u have a scattergun, then just bam bam bam

But scatter gun has a lot of limitations

I'm currently sticking to my carbin and hel rifle

[violet bay]

💀💀indeed

They don't let u fucking concentrate

[lost lynx]

Thats why usually one teammate deals with the smalls

And the other with the big bois

[violet bay]

Indeed

But when u play 1 and 3 bots

It's kinda messed up

Sure they'll kill eveyrone

It's just that...there lacks a bit of cognitive intelligence

So now it's me and my friend with 2 bots

Stuck in R4E1 since last two weeks

[lost lynx]

More than enough to beat the game

You'll get it eventually

[violet bay]

Mhmm

[lost lynx]

It Will take a while

[violet bay]

I know some gtfo streamers

They completed R8E1

In 6 months

Took them a while

🗿

[proper iron]

i think you mean e2

[violet bay]

Oh shit, typo

[proper iron]

some "small" streamers

[sly epoch]

meanwhile us dealing with having only two people

But either way the challenge is welcomed

[thick temple]

definitely not talking about astralspiff ;)

[violet bay]

Mhmmm

[lost lynx]

Guys

[sly epoch]

Most of the time on "horde shooters" since me and cob came from helldivers, drg, it feels way challenging in a good way

[lost lynx]

Spiff made look the game harder than it actually is

It's not that bad

[wraith marsh]

LOL

🔥

[sly epoch]

So would I be deaing with smalls or big ones then? This is my loadout (So far at least) Knife / Carbine / HEL Rifle / Burst Sentry

Also wait spiff made it look harder?

wait he played this??

[lost lynx]

Yeah
He sucked for the most part

[sly epoch]

Tbf I feel like in this game you will suck for the beginning since you gotta learn stuff and it will not hold back any punches

[violet bay]

I've got the same

[lost lynx]

Then they got good and actually did it

[violet bay]

Oh yeah I fucked up A LOT

[distant yoke]

Didnt he play without community knowledge or smth until r8e2?

[violet bay]

and I mean A LOT

[lost lynx]

Yep

[distant yoke]

I mean honestly

[violet bay]

He did

[distant yoke]

I can respect that

[lost lynx]

Thats why he says a lot of misinfo in the early videos

[distant yoke]

thats sheer dedication to not just look it up

and a lot of suffering

[violet bay]

And torture

[sly epoch]

I do respect it, learning from mistakes is rewarding, tho can be annoying to watch in a sense

[violet bay]

I've been watching the same rooms since I've been stuck in R4E1

But it's rewarding

It's progress

I always fumbled when it was time to kill a tank

[sly epoch]

Plus imo sometimes learning from yourself feels more rewarding and actually teaches you rather than looking up the answer, yk?

[violet bay]

But now, I'm better

[lost lynx]

Indeed

[violet bay]

Exactly bro, it feels special

[surreal hound]

I'll look up tips and advice on how to progress my skill but level knowledge and practicing time and time again for scenarios does its work better

[lost lynx]

Both are neccesary

[rose nova]

i mean some practical skill by playing it's good, learnin enemy patterns n stuff

but knowledge also helps a lot

[surreal hound]

Also is your name just the code for R8?

[lost lynx]

Uuuuuuuuh

Yesnt

[rose nova]

me when

[junior latch]

you gotta practice stuff youve learned so you can actually apply it

You get musle memory and react automatically with experience

But knowledge is smth you rarely get by just playing in this game

[surreal hound]

True

Terminals are a conundrum of their owns

[lost lynx]

Eeeeeeh

[surreal hound]

And thats from someone who's taken college courses on coding in both Command Prompt and Linux

[rose nova]

funny linux but ez version

[lost lynx]

You can just type COMMANDS and see each command and what they do

[rose nova]

it's not as bad once u read the commands and understand w what they mean

[lost lynx]

Then theres levels with specific commands but those are easy to understand

[junior latch]

Terminals are honestly rly simple

Coming from someone whos basically tech illiterate

[lost lynx]

Yep

The command terminal is basically
(Command) Followed with whatever the game tells you to write

[shut vapor]

Terminals are literally "do this thing"

[rose nova]

gtfo is literally "do this thing"

the universe is literally "do this thing"

[shut vapor]

see

super general

[rose nova]

me when

[daring ginkgo]

Me, when i just started to play and tried to type commands without knowing, that Tab key exist xd

[dense crow]

e

[jolly kettle]

Anyone need help with r8e2?

Just did it after 200 hours in the game

[stark idol]

Wha-

Literally how

Bro has that dog in him

[proper iron]

bro built different

[graceful geode]

Must have some good """COSMETICS""" mods

[burnt flume]

probably carried? or an alt maybe

but idk who would make an alt to do this

[daring ginkgo]

Me sitting at 550h on r8b4

i guess you spend 2-3 times more time if you play with bots instead of real people

[proper iron]

nah personally if i got carry i still not confident enough to help others. i still need more skill

[honest parrot]

I mean I'd take some help

I still can't beat it

[honest parrot]

Would you want to do one now?

[jolly kettle]

I watched the game alot in beta when it was first released, ive always wanted to play but friend groups have always quit but my friends got it and one of their memebers quit and they helped me, they all have around 600 hours so i kinda got carried

So idk if i got carried, lucky or just learned quick

[jolly kettle]

I can do some tmr but its currently 2:30 am rn and i got crap to do tmr

[honest parrot]

Ok

[lunar island]

the game is vastly different to what it was back then.

[jolly kettle]

I could tell lol

[lunar island]

if you want to avoid being carried, i have a couple options.

1. play through some a1s solo.

2. find one vet and play duo, having them teach you mechanics, zone by zone

[proper iron]

i once play OG R4E1 its a difference game for sure

[burnt flume]

og r4e1 goated

[lunar island]

3. enforce beginners only in the beginners only channel, being willing to leave if some fucker starts carrying

(and do report them for 3. it is against the rules)

[jolly kettle]

Well i mean i just learnt my job

[burnt flume]

buuut then it turns out that they cross posted to 5 different lfg channels and it gets a bit murky

[jolly kettle]

I used c foam and just had to c foam all the scouts

[honest parrot]

Only the nightmare ones really need it

[lunar island]

you shouldn't cross post to beginners. period. it has its own set of rules, per the moderators.

[jolly kettle]

Chargers are a bit scary too so sometimes i used it

[honest parrot]

cfoaming the other ones eat too much into your tool

[burnt flume]

well people do it anyway all the time so lmao

[lunar island]

and if they cross-post, and get a newbie, and they start carrying, report that shit.

let them get punished.

face the concequences of their dumbass actions

[junior latch]

scattergun 💀

[lunar island]

the #rules don't make an exception

[honest parrot]

Or hel rifle or something similar

[lunar island]

trust me, the Mod Contact WILL take action

[burnt flume]

i think it would likely be a run facilitated by boosters or other measures, you can get some good players with less hours in the game but there's no chance you'd have anyone with enough experience to be a hard carry
could still be room for a good team effort though

gotta pop to the shops

[jolly kettle]

We used scattergun and hel rifle but because you dont want to wake up the other scouts in the room

[junior latch]

If someone cross posts into the non beginner lfg without specifying, then the person joining and carrying isnt rly at fault

[junior latch]

There… isnt rly many dual scout spawns with charger scouts ngl

[honest parrot]

Other scouts?

[burnt flume]

yeah, just like when i reported an incident about someone abusing a mod and every line of inquiry turned a ghost

[lunar island]

if you are posting in the beginner channel period, you are making that post in accordance with that channel's rules, not the other way around.

[proper iron]

bulkhead hub zone can have 2 scouts in one room

[lunar island]

perhaps <@&408548765599793173> would like to weigh in?

[honest parrot]

huh

[burnt flume]

Oh my god

[jolly kettle]

Yeah but it does happen 🤷‍♂️ we only used it if we really needed to or wanted to play it safe. Also depended how much tool and ammo refil we have

[proper iron]

iirc other zone should also possible

[lunar island]

this shit is serious. the rules don't exist to be ignored.

[junior latch]

A beginner CROSSPOSTING outside of lfg

not someone crossposting into it

[junior latch]

Yea but only shadow and cscout realistcially

So you melee shadow and shoot the cscout

[lunar island]

then i'd say they'd lose the protections that #lfg-beginners would offer them, but i'm not a mod so can't say for sure.

[burnt flume]

And yet the mods AND admins ignore the rules and let me have a 2nd account in this server that they know about and haven't asked me to remove

Having multiple accounts in this server is against the rules, mind you

[lost lynx]

Is Riemann still here?

[burnt flume]

Banned for harassing me

[junior latch]

Way worse things have been allowed here…

[lunar island]

wasn't that the "gtfo sucks" guy that got nuked?

[lost lynx]

i'm pretty sure he joined with other account

Unless that wasnt Rienmann

[burnt flume]

which account

[stark idol]

The Riemann hypothesis?

Last I checked it’s still unsolved

[honest parrot]

Does R8E2 have that much tool for you that you can use cfoam that freely?
It's not very tight but still

[junior latch]

Yesnt

foaming scouts can be used for stuff like taking out 2 normal ones without issue in 494 for example

[jolly kettle]

Oh we dont use it freely ofc, its just in some situations

[lost lynx]

Soriati or something like that

I think that tells you how much admins/mods actually check this server

[vestal kernel]

I saw I got pinged

[lost lynx]

Look

Sam is here

[wraith marsh]

it was a very important ping

[lost lynx]

Yeah idk why you got pinged tbh

[lunar island]

clarification on #lfg-beginners rules

and no carrying if the post is cross-posted

[vestal kernel]

yeah if someone cross posts out of beginner lfg then you can't blame someone for carrying unless it's explicitly made clear by the people present they don't want that

that's common sense

[lunar island]

if someone cross posts into beginner, should that not be allowed?

[lunar island]

^

[vestal kernel]

it makes things more confusing but it's also a difficult thing to moderate unless we have someone watching all the lfg channels constantly

[junior latch]

Hey sam

hope you doin well

[vestal kernel]

I would like to tell you yes but I also really don't think we need to step in

[pallid anvil]

🤓 the rules 🤓 ☝️ in a world where nobody cares girl

[lunar island]

is it something where the new player should just immediately dip?

[lunar island]

i am 110% lawful neutral

without rules we are savages

if you don't like it, go live in a cave

[pallid anvil]

and with extreme rules we become you

ill become a savage over that

any day

:3

[vestal kernel]

no but I think the player should make their intent clear and should ask the person who is making the lobby to not cross post it

[honest parrot]

Honestly at this point does anyone even check if someone's crossposting into lfg-beginners

[vestal kernel]

Can we steer away now please

this is getting kinda personal

[lunar island]

no, because most people crossposting spam all the lfgs, ignoring the specifics

rather than just one or two

[lost lynx]

No fight guys
We should hug each other

[proper iron]

@low shell professional hugger

[lunar island]

which is stupid if you ask me, because if you are in NA but post in oceania you shouldn't complain if someone with bad ping joins you

and it is a bit unfair to that oceania player

[unreal crystal]

is anyone doing this

[lost lynx]

Wait, you can buy profile decorations without nitro?

[unreal crystal]

this is a strawman

[pallid anvil]

girl what is you on

[proper iron]

limited split fiction deco event

[pseudo sedge]

who cares honestly

[lost lynx]

Ah

[mellow hedge]

Has this shit ever been an issue?

[pallid anvil]

I DONT KNOW

[mellow hedge]

Like ever

[pseudo sedge]

just dont be an asshole to new players

new tech discovered

[lunar island]

the people who would be negatively affected? what kind of question is that?

[unreal crystal]

it is just strawmanning im not sure this like ever happens

[lunar island]

if it doesn't affect you it doesn't matter, is that what you are saying?

[mellow hedge]

When people join my lobbies and go “my ping is bad” and I say “I’m Australian” they just say “okay”

[pallid anvil]

we left the whole worlds problems and chased the people lfging

😭

[lost lynx]

LOL

They just accept it

[mellow hedge]

This is literally the bad end of the spectrum

[pseudo sedge]

who is that tho? the only people who indeed i've seen be badly treated are new players being 'carried' which does indeed happen quite a bit. However the solution to that is the new player telling the 'carry' to fuck off

[vestal kernel]

I ultimately think that a slightly sub par experience one time is an inevitability

even when rules are followed

[mellow hedge]

And if people care so much, I don’t blame them for leaving

[vestal kernel]

people will still argue and fight

over bideo bames...

such is life

[worthy flicker]

Hello, i heard we are arguing and fighting, and showed up as fast as I could

[lost lynx]

You are a bit late

[mellow hedge]

Y’all fuckers complaining about ping, I been on that shit for 2k hours

Get better

[worthy flicker]

Well I was driving

[lost lynx]

Okay

[pseudo sedge]

or even better if u are in the lobby: tell the 'carry' to fuck off yourself, have done that a few times myself and it is not a big issue

[lost lynx]

Drive while texting

(don't do it)

[worthy flicker]

Only if I am exceptionally bored

[mellow hedge]

Ngl tho if it isn’t ur lobby don’t talk shit, just leave

And if you care so much make ur own lobby

Also I love the mod ping

Makes my day

[wraith marsh]

pubs

[lunar island]

you are so damn passive agressive

[mellow hedge]

Thank you so much!

[fossil horizon]

[worthy flicker]

My take is that you are an insane person if you post like, Real Levels in Beginners

[lunar island]

i agree.

[lost lynx]

Wdym R2E1 is beginners

:)

[worthy flicker]

I see it in there and chuckle sometimes

[mellow hedge]

I feel like the people who post e tiers in beginners are just looking for first timers for the level

[worthy flicker]

Defo

[mellow hedge]

It’s not hard to interpret

[worthy flicker]

If it's r2e1 in beginners it's defo someone who got to it naturally, hit E1

And is queueing for it

I've never seen another E level in there tbh

[low shell]

[pseudo sedge]

#lfg-beginners message

[lost lynx]

I have seen E2

Yeah there

[stark idol]

I did run R4E1

[lunar island]

i would think though if you are at the point where you are doing e1 runs, you aren't really a beginner anymore

[stark idol]

And I saw another person running R4E1 as well

[pseudo sedge]

beginners may mean more than just less than 20 hours in game

[mellow hedge]

^

Beginners to THE LEVEL

[pseudo sedge]

in some cases it means "first time in level"

[fleet kettle]

I cross posted into lfg-begginers r8e2 and we still got 2 ppl who played that level couple of times, per what they said. Are you gonna be so annal to check that?

[worthy flicker]

Eh. R2E1 really is a difficulty spike out of nowhere tbh.

[pallid anvil]

me when I see subjectivity being imposed

[worthy flicker]

I am going to host a 15 minute interview for everyone who joins the lobby, actually

[fleet kettle]

Riiight.

We should do that in begginer lobbies

Teach beginners to do interviews

[pseudo sedge]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[stark idol]

Real

[pseudo sedge]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[proper iron]

free moneyy

[fleet kettle]

<@&408548765599793173>

[lost lynx]

YEEEEEES

[pseudo sedge]

money

money

[stark idol]

MONEYYYYY

[lost lynx]

STEAM CARDS

[mellow hedge]

I GOT IT

[pseudo sedge]

easy i got the money chat

i am just better

[proper iron]

i can gambling

[mellow hedge]

I clicked the link

[wraith marsh]

+50

[lost lynx]

FUCK YOU

IT WAS MINE

[honest parrot]

can't believe the bot would post that into an active war zone

[low shell]

[wraith marsh]

im buying 3 copies of gtfo

[worthy flicker]

Ceasefire now lmao

[lunar island]

hand grenade into a bar brawl

[worthy flicker]

That was too amusing

[low shell]

for friends?

[pseudo sedge]

also fun fact chat: there have been 157 instances of r8e2 dropped in lfg-beginners, 198 r5e1, 309 r4e1s and 3021 r2e1s

[fleet kettle]

For enemies

[wraith marsh]

gotta get in my 2 hours before they quit

[honest parrot]

Reminds me of the time not long ago someone came begging for a copy

[worthy flicker]

So R2E1 is defo like, an outlier here

[honest parrot]

Is he still around

[lunar island]

can't you buy it in a 4-1 bundle?

[mellow hedge]

I knew r2e1 was a beginner level

[proper iron]

how many times simon lfg r4e1

[honest parrot]

who's simon?

[mellow hedge]

That’s why I post it in there all the time and carry my team

[lost lynx]

3000 holy shit

[fleet kettle]

not surprising

[fossil horizon]

Who cares about posts in channels?

[mellow hedge]

Weird fucker

[vestal kernel]

I mean we do

and we do care about people carrying beginners against their wishes

[lunar island]

I do too, but i get flamed when i type that

[vestal kernel]

and if that keeps happening then we have something to do about it

[mellow hedge]

No lol

[pseudo sedge]

can i post the bbc copypasta in #lfg-western-europe tho? I really need to find a bbc in europe so i can buy some train/cheap plane tickets.

[vestal kernel]

Frostty you gotta work on the way you phrase it imo

[mellow hedge]

Victim complex 💅

[vestal kernel]

Frosty, chill

[mellow hedge]

Mb

[fossil horizon]

It will keep happening you can't obliterate that thing from existence no matter what rules you have unless you just block everything and delete channels and whole server

[lost lynx]

Delete the server

[vestal kernel]

cool anarchist viewpoint

unfortunately this is the real world

so what we do is OUR best

[upper loom]

End the suffering of gtfo community

😔😔😔

[lost lynx]

Who are you

[mellow hedge]

Realistically the people who care enough will report them or whatever

You can’t force people to do it

People just don’t care enough

[fossil horizon]

^

[mellow hedge]

Have better things to do

[junior latch]

Theres also the point of beginners not necessarily realizing theyve been carried

(Can be a mix of ego, very hidden carry etc)

[fossil horizon]

Most people won't bother themselves with that reporting, they either want to complete game no matter what or they just play through it and don't complain or they don't even realize they are being carried

[vestal kernel]

its a ruling that i've literally only ever seen in this community on this game

and its there for a good reason

because experiencing the game for the first time fresh is fun and cooler than being carried for most people

[lunar island]

i remember when i first started playing in ogr1

it was horrifying

so much fun

[brittle schooner]

if those people dont care then it isnt a problem no? respond when someone complains, if people dont complain then there is no issue.

at least i thought that was the whole point

[vestal kernel]

I would say most rulebreaks go unreported yeah

[brittle schooner]

srry i didnt backread everything so im not fully caught up on everythin

[wraith marsh]

its hard for new players to know a lot of the time

[brittle schooner]

i mean if people dont mind then usually its not an issue ya?

[wraith marsh]

not rly a problem that can be fixed

[lunar island]

convo started about asking mods for clarification about crossposting into #lfg-beginners because that channel has specific rules

[brittle schooner]

there is the situation where people maybe mind but they dont know how 2 contact mods or that they should contact mods but from experience thats quite rare

[lunar island]

thats about as far as you need to scroll

[fossil horizon]

Main discord server starting to have same topics as community servers, while it's still possible launch exterminatus on GTFO and proceed to change everyones perspective to waiting for DoW

[lunar island]

what is exterminatus?

[brittle schooner]

hm

[lunar island]

also i'm not hyped for DoW at all. just doesn't seem fun to me

[fleet kettle]

wh40k weapon of planet scale destruction

[lunar island]

is it more or less powerful than the celestial orrery?

[junior latch]

less

[fleet kettle]

Less

[junior latch]

far less

[lunar island]

i've only played/read necron stuff

[junior latch]

Necrons tech is like comparable with peak old human tech at worst

necrons are crazy on that

[lunar island]

i know they used to pretty much control the entire system, they killed/eslaved their gods, the c'tan, etc

[junior latch]

well

[lunar island]

then they sleep

[junior latch]

not quite

[lunar island]

and a lot didn't wake up

[junior latch]

but close enough i guess

[fleet kettle]

old human tech getting banned because of AI and when one ship with old human tech returned from warp humans tried to destroy it

[junior latch]

AI and human tech using it is „banned“

not all old human tech is AI

[fleet kettle]

They did create devices to capture c'tan but more like as a retaliation for what c'tan did to them. On topic of controlling the galaxy it was more like just their sheer numbers that spread across it. Either way they went to sleep after dealing with c'tan.

[junior latch]

They were an expanding empire

But had space cancer basically
Wanted immortality from the old ones (they said lol no)
were tricked by the ctan (who werent rly their gods, but are honestly smth similar (basically concepts given form that eat stars and souls)

Gave up their bodies and souls for metal immortality (got tricked here)

With ctan waged war vs old ones and „won“. Killed at least 1 ctan (bad bad things happened, they dont wanna do that again) and enslaved the others by ursurping them

Eldari and other old one species were still around. Necrons decided they could just outlast them. Went to sleep

Have been waking up recently (more and more) but only a fraction rn. With many of the lower ones having lost their sense of self

[lunar island]

didn't they give up their bodies because their lifespan was soooooo short, or was it something to do with their planet's atmosphere/radiation? i don't remember.

[junior latch]

sun gave them basically space cancer

(Hypothesis is that this was a ploy of the ctan actually)

short lifespan

[lunar island]

so both?

[junior latch]

the ctan promised immortality

But not how

Necrontyr thought they were talking to the ctan called „the messenger“ (or smth similar)

But it was actually „the deceiver“

[lunar island]

most of the necrons don't have their minds anymore, and are essentially robots, barring higher tier leaders and archons? of their factions

i forget the terms

the librarian fuckers

[junior latch]

Basically yea

theres also the flayer virus

fucked stuff

[lunar island]

their pieces are crazy strong

[junior latch]

I have no mouth but I must scream describes necrons quite well

[lunar island]

(in the boardgame)

[junior latch]

ya

Currently building necron combat patrol

Or well

Painting

[upper loom]

Warhammer and gtfo are basically the same game

[lunar island]

ehhhh not really

[upper loom]

🙄

[lunar island]

the collectors were exiles

their main species is probably out there somewhere

[upper loom]

shitty humans vs op aliens

[lunar island]

and gtfo functions through a multiverse

[junior latch]

if you tone down the gtfo virus it would unironically fit quite well into warhammer 40k verse

[modern coral]

Warhammer is not a nearby possible world.

[junior latch]

what

[upper loom]

How do you know there arent orcs that can think colours into actual powers out there ray

Have you checked every planet yourself?

[lunar island]

i mean technically given near-infinite universes, it probably exists somewhere in the gtfo multiverse

like DoW

and IRL

[fleet kettle]

we need trazyn the collector in gtfo

[junior latch]

hed 100% collect the sleepers

Hed find them very interesting

[fleet kettle]

or dauda(s)

[lunar island]

what was special about the...proto-ork? he has

i know he has a lot of old species

[junior latch]

you mean the krorks (or whatever?)

[lunar island]

yeah

[junior latch]

the super smart peak version of orks (or basically their og version designed by the old ones)

[lunar island]

why does he have one and where did he get it

[junior latch]

probably from back then

trazyn has lots of old stuff

[modern coral]

But it's not nearby

It's a far away possible world

[lunar island]

true

[sacred briar]

a long time ago, perchance

[lunar island]

potentially.

different universes move at different speeds.

[wild patrol]

@ruby sand which message

[solid robin]

forgot i have nitro for one day

and i know how to use it

[flint thicket]

who has the best aura

[solid robin]

i have none

[lunar island]

i'm surprised the developers never gave thought to adding a Nemesis style boss enemy for a rundown. I know pablo exists, but he is pretty much just a reflavored tank. We already know the mothers and fathers aren't entirely natural mutations of the parasite and were instead partially influenced by Dauda's research, something like Resident Evil 3 would have been badass.

i remember there being tons of boss enemy ideas in this regard way back in the day, when this server had a suggestions channel

[wicked solstice]

man i miss the suggestion channel

[lunar island]

it isn't even read only like speedrunning

it was just yeeted

[wicked solstice]

every 2 days we’d get “emp scout”

[lunar island]

FUCKING RIOT SHIELDS, GUYS

[analog flicker]

Occy emp scout.

[lunar island]

i remember that like it was yesterday

[wicked solstice]

mapper stuff

[lunar island]

train/tram expedition, or a secondary slot weaker turret

[analog flicker]

Imean. Iirc there is deployable shields that never made it into the game

Or barricades

[lunar island]

deployable cover, even. ik.

there is also the AI sentry that is hostile to players

the potential for environmental hazards from other survivors/kso teams, long dead

[analog flicker]

The last I tested that deployable cover. It does fuck with enemy pathing

But they can break it as well

[lunar island]

what was the nanoswarm intended to be?

[wicked solstice]

something to do with the like

[lunar island]

i can only think of those grenades from cod Advanced Warfare

[wicked solstice]

Advanced booster system iirc

i forget what they were called

[analog flicker]

NANO MACHINES!

[wicked solstice]

not that

there was some advanced upgrades to the player

[analog flicker]

I know. But funny

[lunar island]

https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Nano_Swarm

it would have been nice to see any collector, living or corpse,

the vessel, the reason for the game existing,

any of the infected specimens within the ship,

the collector gun that made the holes we enter the complex through,

residential or living spaces in the upper levels,

cafeterias, ducts,

static or abandoned defenses from during the collapse,

barracades / barracaded doors,

SO MUCH

we got like maybe 1/5th of the potential things

[wicked solstice]

would have been cool to have a bathroom

[noble rose]

😭🙏

[sacred briar]

simply hold it in

[lunar island]

schaeffer, mom said you have to share the bucket!

[scarlet ledge]

whats your guys opinions on the chokemod vs the 870?

[wicked solstice]

we don’t know what the 870 is

[scarlet ledge]

The normal pumpaction shotgun

8 round mag

[wicked solstice]

ok

[scarlet ledge]

I say 870 cuz its a scifi 870mcs lolol

[junior latch]

choke mod vs pump shotgun

they kinda do pretty different things

choke mod is rolecrept by hel rifle, high cal and such

shotgun is more of an all rounder that plays more short range

shotgun is pretty good

choke mod is ok, but due to rolecreep kinda meh

[scarlet ledge]

I prefer the pump because it has a wider spread tbh

better at close range

but Im also like.. a 20hr noob so

[wicked solstice]

Eva has a couple hours

but at the end of the day it’s your preference

and like, a couple really bad weapons

none of which you’ve listed

[junior latch]

it kinda depends on what you wanna do if you wanna know whether one fits better (if you just narrow it down to those 2)

cuz realistically its gonna be

take shotgun for x, take a completely different weapon (that isnt choke mod) for y

[lunar island]

s870 all day.

since ogr1

[junior latch]

well its a pretty easy decision early on

shotgun vs no gun (choke mod didnt exist)

[lunar island]

choke i only really used in r6 against charger scouts...

i just was never a fan, even when i did have the choice

[junior latch]

choke was good from OG R7 to alt R2

[wicked solstice]

i used a lot of choke in Alt R2

ah

[junior latch]

then the hel rifle nation attacked

[wicked solstice]

Lmao

[modern coral]

Choke is not very good.

It can kind of make its way in as dedicated boss kill if you remove all of the other bosskill.

But it's not very good boss kill, it's only really good for mom. On every other target, it's okay but has a small mag and long reload.

[sullen finch]

can it 1shot cscouts ?

[modern coral]

Yes, same as all 30 damage weaps

And you can spam it for consistency

[fringe garden]

chokemod kills from front technically no

[modern coral]

If you magdump or hit two clean shots back to back, yes.

[fringe garden]

can sawed off do this too surely it can do that

[sullen finch]

sawed off my beloved

[modern coral]

I'm not sure the explicit RoF, but on client probably.

Choke RoF is extremely high.

[fringe garden]

can revo kill a cscout from front

[modern coral]

I think it's RNG, but yes.

[sullen finch]

can burst pistol kill cscout from front

[modern coral]

I'd be surprised if 0.5 isn't long enough for 5 shots

No.

[fringe garden]

it just barely is

600rpm is 10/s

but since timer is from first hit you get an extra 0.1s leeway

[honest parrot]

I still remember that fanfire clip

[modern coral]

You just need enough time for 4 follow-up shots

[fringe garden]

yeah need to roll 0.4+

[burnt flume]

joel cassidy overwatch

[scarlet ledge]

pump 870 good for charger scouts?

if in the back?

[fringe garden]

yeah

[lunar island]

no

[sacred briar]

what is 870?

[scarlet ledge]

pump shotty

[lunar island]

s870. pump action shotgun

[fringe garden]

need full back multi and no pellet miss but it kills if you're close

the shotgun

[lunar island]

https://www.remarms.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/

[scarlet ledge]

ty

[scarlet ledge]

wiki says the s870 does 3.01x10 damage... 30.1 damage.. so every single pellet would need to hit

[fringe garden]

yeah it is tight

[scarlet ledge]

thats basically nut-to-butt

[fringe garden]

but it does kill

[fringe garden]

the pellet spread is tighter than you think, but you do need to be quite close

[scarlet ledge]

rog

ty

[pine root]

Have you increased your fov

Because if you aren’t on default your crosshair is not accurate to what is actually happening

[scarlet ledge]

no, Im assuming there's a setting for this?

[pine root]

If you increased fov your crosshair is larger than what is actually is

no setting just how it is

there is a mod for it

[magic otter]

Hello, sorry, I'm new here and my current gaming group has been stagnant. I tried telling them about GTFO, always (personally) have wanted to play it.

[modern coral]

This was about choke, but pump one-shot is not hard.

[magic otter]

So, I'm here and wanted to find out if there is any preference or way to join in on matches?

[modern coral]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[magic otter]

I've been through tutorial and two of those level runs but they ended poorly cause people saw I was new and opted out. So, I wanted to know

[modern coral]

Create a VC and make a link for it, or join through a link posted in LFG

[magic otter]

Thanks a ton @modern coral and @foggy plank !

[lost lynx]

[shut vapor]

🐟

man for 560 hours of battle cats I would hope I am a little better than I currently am 💀

[noble rose]

damn

[lost lynx]

Mf has 560 hours in a gacha game

Damn

Thats quite a lot

[shut vapor]

and I'm still skill issuing

[lost lynx]

Spend money

[shut vapor]

Don't think this'll help

[fringe garden]

kids these days don't know how it used to be playing battle cats 😔

progression speed is like 210230x as fast nowadays

[shut vapor]

man Kappy Kawano is still no joke :(

[fringe garden]

i quit before kappy kawano

played 2017-2023ish

when i quit i had cleared everything

[shut vapor]

Did UL finish 2 years ago? thats kinda crazy now that I'm thinking about how long it's been

[fringe garden]

i was doing one linup uncanny legends as it was being released but it failed at last subchapter

[visual lily]

Why tf people here red

[fringe garden]

ig that's my bad for level restricting myself to 100/50/70/60/50/50/50

[fringe garden]

sub 11 r3d1

[shut vapor]

You should reopen the game and Get Idi TF

[visual lily]

Lmao

[fringe garden]

no

[shut vapor]

Only needss 1* UL complete

no 4* grind

[fringe garden]

listen i have been sober for too long to go back

[shut vapor]

The cats call for you

[visual lily]

Gtfo has turned into a speed running game

[shut vapor]

always has been

[lunar island]

With a side of Lore addiction

[visual lily]

The best addiction

[worthy flicker]

Every game is a speedrunning game if you make it one tbf

I'd say Silent Hill Homecoming is better speedran then actually played tho, that might be a game built for speedrunning lmao

[mellow hedge]

"turned into"

[fringe garden]

gtfo was a speedrunning game since ogr1 aka release

[mellow hedge]

i wonder if kenny did alpha playtest speedruns

[livid tartan]

gtfo is bad

[solid robin]

finally beat r1a1 with my step sis

[rose nova]

gamiiiing

[celest geode]

Yo guys

anyone who wants to try R2E1

😄

[sullen finch]

no

[vapid tangle]

anyone got any tips for soloing R1B1? Ive been just doing the class 2 alarm scan first before opening any doors and I have gotten close, but should I be opening the first door? I am using burst sentry and just putting it in front of the ladder.

[fringe garden]

opening the first door before the alarm makes it easier

this is because it forces the enemies to spawn from that side, which is further away than if you don't open it

meaning you have more time before enemies show to do scan

[vapid tangle]

alright il try that

[fringe garden]

typically enough to finish downstairs scans/forward scans so that you can retreat to last scans upstairs and just kill off wave after scans are finished

[lost lynx]

Sawed off + hel rifle = easy game

[vapid tangle]

why is that?

[lost lynx]

2 really OP guns

And easy to use

Anyways if You are struggling i recommend adding some bots

[magic otter]

really good to know, I'll try that combo next time I party game!

[sullen pelican]

congrats

[sullen pelican]

bring a mine deployer. deploy laods of mines

[fringe garden]

nahh

sentry is the way to go

[sullen finch]

hel gun better

[visual lily]

You guys got "stuck" on it?

[solid robin]

2 days

[white ravine]

how good is this game

[lime kelp]

not for everyone but if it is its very good :)

[rose nova]

if u dont mind commiting to it and learning it as it is a game that requires it, and u got a team or dont mind playin randoms its an experience to put lotta time into

[lost lynx]

Hard but fun

Has a really big learning curve

[mellow hedge]

You know what else is big?

[white ravine]

Is there a specific build such ass heavy med light or something or the build is general

[rose nova]

not rlly, its more general

the "builds" u can get is based around ur weaponry and ur tool, but it doesnt make things much different

[mellow hedge]

The finals ahh

[white ravine]

It was an example so people can get the idea

Soo whats the size download for this game

[mellow hedge]

Uhhhh I think like 30gb

It’ll say recommended storage space on the steam page

[lost lynx]

Theres no builds in this game

It's not an RPG

It's a very straight forward shooter

[lost lynx]

15GB

[rose nova]

u write with such passion
aggresive passion

[lost lynx]

LOL

Sorry

I know sometimes i write very "passive aggresive" with a more aggresive side

[white ravine]

Is the game similar to killing floor

[lost lynx]

Nope

There isnt really anything similar to GTFO

It uses a lot of mechanics from other games and concepts but is also very unique in some places

GTFO is more stealth focused than 99% of horde shooters

[white ravine]

So it is similar to no more room in hell

[lost lynx]

Minus the massive amount of enemies
Yeah

Kind off

[proper iron]

no more room is more like extraction shooter?

[lost lynx]

Its like Left for dead
But a lot more focused on resource management and also slower gameplay

You need to make your way through massive zombies hordes

(zombies are slow and dumb)

[mellow hedge]

It’s also quite unforgiving

[lost lynx]

Yeah

[mellow hedge]

At least in the early stages

You learn to navigate it the more you play

And how to recover situation

To where it just becomes second nature

[lost lynx]

Even if i know what to do i find the game quite hard

😔

[mellow hedge]

Yeah that’s just a skill issue buddy

L liberal

[lost lynx]

Mean

[white ravine]

how hard is the game

[rose nova]

it hard
mostly cuz u gotta pay attention to it

gotta learn it

gotta sort of commit time to it

needs that part knowledge/part knowing how to shoot

[white ravine]

is it hard as elden ring

[mellow hedge]

It’s a hard comparison ngl

[rose nova]

i havent, played elder ring but im gonna take a wild guess and say its not the same

elder ring is a lot fo learning enemy patter and dying too fast

[lost lynx]

Cant compare

[rose nova]

gtfo is learning everything, shooting well, much longer missions

[mellow hedge]

GTFO is very knowledge based

[lost lynx]

GTFO is 70% knowledge

30% execution

And there is a lot to learn in this game

[mellow hedge]

Knowledge can carry you through shit

[white ravine]

the game has finishe downloaded
its dying time

[mellow hedge]

Have fun

[abstract crane]

wanna ask how can we kill the big dude when he's asleep?

[lost lynx]

Giants?
Charge your melee and hit the limbs

Breaking limbs makes them stagger

You can perma stagger them until you kill them

[abstract crane]

oh, you can do that?

[lost lynx]

Yes

[abstract crane]

thanks for the tips

gonna try it when i see the big dude

[naive rover]

If your timing isn’t off and you don’t miss lol

[rose nova]

make sure u hit from the back

[mellow hedge]

Ayo?

[rose nova]

they take x2 damage from the back as so does basically any enemy

[lost lynx]

The best tip i can give is to not be scared

[abstract crane]

ohhhhhh

backshot do the most damage *pause

[rose nova]

[lost lynx]

The moment You doubt hitting the giant you will fuck it up

[naive rover]

That’s true.

Just commit.

See thing, do thing.

[abstract crane]

monke see, monke do

noted

[exotic basin]

my squad finally beat R8D2 after 5 hours and 4 minutes
what a relief
time to be deathly afraid of R8E2

[fringe garden]

bring scatter gun and burst cannon and hel rifle and it'll be fine

and the sawed off shot gun

[white ravine]

the queue match seems long

[fringe garden]

idk just use lfg

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[lost lynx]

Use LFG

Dont use ingame mm

Its kinda bad

@near stag go to Kaiser server

Right now

[mellow hedge]

Why would you want to go there

[livid tartan]

GTFO is bad

[modern coral]

You've already posted for the day

Don't forget to take your meds.

[final coyote]

any one doing R2B2?

R2B3 I meant

[solid robin]

time to try and see what the next level is like

level twooo

[mellow hedge]

I want you

[daring ginkgo]

Hi, use lfg channel for finding people

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

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[wide steeple]

Can someone please explain how does long range aggro works when you kill sleepers in stealth? We've been discussing with friends and did not seem to agree with each other

[modern coral]

At most one sleeper can wake up from long range, and only if no close range

It picks the nearest glowing sleeper w/in a very large range w/ unobstructed LoS

It's an RNG chance on kill and on damaging an enemy, and guaranteed if you wake it by movement of bumping into an enemy.

[wide steeple]

For noob: unobstructed los is without walls?

[modern coral]

Yes, no obstacles

[daring ginkgo]

Check this stealth guide

https://youtu.be/I0PP1U_MM74?si=BJzK5fHzmmC1FS2y

There are section about long range aggro too

[wide steeple]

Yep, I watched it. But sometimes it works ridiculos. Sometimes even not glowing sleepers wake up at longe range. Are they supposed to wake up when i kill someone and there are more sleepers in close range even tho they are not glowing?

[fringe garden]

the "glowing" state of an enemy isn't entirely tied to the animation

the not glowing sleepers were in the "glowing" state, but the animation hadn't started lighting them up just yet

[wide steeple]

I see

[daring ginkgo]

Maybe they juuust started to glow, when you kill other sleeper, causing long range aggro and waking them up

Like zed said

You can use flashlight to synchronize nearby sleepers glow cycle

[wide steeple]

So long range aggro makes sleeping sleepers glow?

[fringe garden]

nono

enemies can only be woken by long range aggro when glowing

[wide steeple]

Alright, ty. And in close range if there are a couple of them standing really near each other, is there a chance someone wakes up from sleeping state if I kill someone?

[fringe garden]

if enemies are close enough to each other, hitting one will wake the others

this can wake several enemies, as long as they are all close enough to the hit sleeper

[wide steeple]

Thanks

[mellow hedge]

Also short range aggro is 100% chance

[daring ginkgo]

Btw, if you have 3 sleepers close to each other in line for example, you can hit left one, middle one will wake up from short range aggro, but if you kill him, right one will be still asleep

[jovial vortex]

This kinda situation is why i love knife

[wide steeple]

Do you change cpu culling and shadow frame updates in advanced graphics or better leave them default?

[mellow hedge]

why tf was someone complaining about lfgs in dauda alone

[hollow owl]

If there were some sleepers that woke up from proximity aggro, can long range aggro also happen at the same time?

[mellow hedge]

no only one can happen

[proper iron]

you can use long range aggro to prevent proximity and another way around

[hollow owl]

Interesting

[fringe garden]

you cannot use long range to prevent proximity aggro

but the other way around does work

[mellow hedge]

think hes talking about forced long range aggro, where you force an enemy thats in proxy aggro to long range off another

[proper iron]

i mean to force awake

[mellow hedge]

so if you have a giant and small next to each other, you force long range on the small so the giant doesnt wake

[fringe garden]

yes

[mellow hedge]

its not preventing its more just that only one can happen

[fringe garden]

yeah but proxy aggro has priority

[mellow hedge]

its why 2 next to each other is literally the safest kills in the game

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[fringe garden]

double kills my beloved

[mellow hedge]

its nice how doubles cant long range either lol

[gusty burrow]

Or you just hit the ground repeatedly until you find the distance where it wakes the small and not the giant

[jovial vortex]

what if it screams 😔

[honest parrot]

Usually it only screams when the target is far away so you have time

[modern coral]

Proxy and long-range both cause wake-up animations. These give you considerable time to react, and if the enemy is facing away from you they will do an even longer animation.

[jovial vortex]

ah ok

i was kinda always afraid of them awaking the whole room

thats good to know

[modern coral]

It is something you plan for while stealthing

[jovial vortex]

i do plan things but idk this mechanic before

[modern coral]

You want to kill enemy 1 w/ the intention of it waking enemy 2, and then killing them in sequence w/ positioning to optimize back damage and such

[jovial vortex]

or i didnt notice it till now

[honest parrot]

Usually if something wakes up you kill scout and shoot room if you're new
(Pubs anyways, that's the bare minimum you should really aim for)

[modern coral]

^ this is bad play, tho.

You need a long-range really far away or multiple enemies waking w/out any animation for things to start to be unrecoverable

[honest parrot]

Well, maybe not the shoot room part

[modern coral]

No, the shoot room is bad play

You just kill the enemy that woke up

[honest parrot]

Yeah I mean
I love english

ah faq

I meant the shoot room is bad, yes

[jovial vortex]

me when communicating

[modern coral]

ic

[jovial vortex]

i love language barrier

[modern coral]

For the most part, people will struggle w/ recovery if they're slow to react (always be charging), or they over-commit their movement (sprinting at a wake that they could walk at instead).

[jovial vortex]

i think i accidently did that once

i was playing knife

i thought knife was just better

😔

[modern coral]

Knife benefits a lot from walking, tbh

Because you'll have glows out of sync, so when you cause a movement wake, you can kill it and whatever chains from that will be a slow wake

And you have the charge-speed that if there's few enough enemies you can clean them up w/out scream.

[jovial vortex]

yea

i stop using it cuz i had a problem with the titan

[modern coral]

Yeah, it's very dedicated small kill.

[jovial vortex]

and i had like 3 in 1 room once

in r1c2