gtfo-chat

[daring ginkgo]

well , i am not touching r5, until i beat r4e1

[rose nova]

well do it already smh not pro gamer

[jk]

[daring ginkgo]

i tried to host it yesterday, nobody joined then i saw party with Frosty, Goat and Voxy, but it was too late in my place

[fossil horizon]

It's normal, vanilla can't compare to modded "Throw all of possible shit at you, even lights are flickering now, deal with it"

[honest parrot]

Can you just turn the lights off if they're flickering?

[pastel dagger]

It's a whole room scan it's fine

[fossil horizon]

You can get soundbug so it will crash your game and you technically escaped from mission

[rose nova]

i mean it really isn't normal tho

not at least for the standards they created lol

r5 is just a fuck

on modded idk and partially don't care but on vanilla it is not normal

[burnt flume]

💔

[daring ginkgo]

i am hosting rn

[fossil horizon]

And still no invisible mother birthing snatchers

[rose nova]

good :3

also

the only two reactor tiles that aren't refinery itsss the glass one from ||r7e1|| one and the ||r6d1|| one right

i do not remember any other

[fossil horizon]

R5D2 is also glass one no?

[rose nova]

yes pretty sure it's the same tile

as theeee one i mentioned

[fossil horizon]

Yeah but in terms of different ones I think we don't have anymore

[rose nova]

well time to steal daks occlusion tile :3

teehee

[fossil horizon]

Floodways?

[rose nova]

yes

idk i'm in ideas phase still

maybe i do do it datacenter not sures

[fossil horizon]

Nice tile except flashing lights and soundbug from Daks other rooms

[pallid anvil]

Bot person down !!

[rose nova]

:3

i will flash ur lights

and u will like it

[daring ginkgo]

only for this lvl ( for now )

[fossil horizon]

No please, no more flashing and logs named Sl3NdIm3n

[rose nova]

my levels are named sln1 sln2 and i will include more spanish

u will literally NEED google translate to read intercepted comms in the missions info ur welcome

ah yeah and i will crash ur game

teehee

[fossil horizon]

Who need that when I can't see door and go check log for info where to go further

[rose nova]

:3

i am the bringer of chaos

[fossil horizon]

Not you, me half asleep is bringer of chaos overthinking the rundown

[rose nova]

overthinking daks b1 just to drop down and forget everything seein how it wet haha

funny wet sounds

[fossil horizon]

I made a call to spear waves on D4, my overthinking is shit

[rose nova]

wuh

brah

[honest parrot]

Hey um strange question but the extract alarm for R4C2 only happens when you get into the scan for extract right?

Just to double check

[burnt flume]

Yea

[rose nova]

in the extract or if u pick the datasphere in ov

[honest parrot]

ye we got someone in tech support asking why an alarm tripped when they were sneaking through zone 8 or smth

Of all honesty they should asking it in related-questions, cause I don't think a log would tell me why something like that happened

[mellow hedge]

i think they are 2 seperate alarms?

[rose nova]

oh maybe

i actually never knew

doing ov u don't get to see extract enemies if there is one

cause u just spawncap shadows

[honest parrot]

Either way any idea if the funni terminal commands are displayed in logs?

[rose nova]

isn't it fixed already that clients cannot start error hidden commands

[honest parrot]

I think so

I hope so...

[lost lynx]

why does this game sucks

[alpine scaffold]

because prisioners arent female

[lost lynx]

good point

[rose nova]

u just haven't played occlusion

smh smh

[lost lynx]

erm

actually

what about you?

[rose nova]

i have not played it but i'm not saying the games bad

[latent palm]

Game bad

Chair disapprove

[night mango]

please welp R8B4 sec D:

[mellow hedge]

sorry mum said its bedtime

[latent palm]

Welp

Mom said you cant do T-2 anymore

[mellow hedge]

wtf is T-2

[latent palm]

My mod

[mellow hedge]

thank GOD

[night mango]

huh

[latent palm]

I pulled out 8 man lobby into R7C2 teleport fight

[true pilot]

mods, ban him! he said the M word!

[latent palm]

My

[night mango]

dew it

[latent palm]

I said it again

[true pilot]

impossible

how are you still here

[mellow hedge]

wanna run e2 duo?

[latent palm]

Just like how id do it again with your silksong

[night mango]

nah not yet

[latent palm]

Hed beat you

[true pilot]

=(

[night mango]

just want that damn R8 Absolute

[rose nova]

funny level :3
what u struggling with

[latent palm]

Chair spawns

[mellow hedge]

pre nerf r8b4

[rose nova]

weeee

[night mango]

sec is not the problem just main after first cell tbh

[true pilot]

i love psuedo surges =)

[rose nova]

cell?

[latent palm]

Spawn gm_npc2_chair

[mellow hedge]

it was only hard because it was her first level she had made

[night mango]

ye second cell

[rose nova]

there's no cells in b4 are there

it's only opening doors through commands

[mellow hedge]

yes there are

no

[rose nova]

OH

RIFHT

i forgot

[mellow hedge]

goofy ah

[rose nova]

my bad

:[

[night mango]

how dare u

[alpine scaffold]

What exactly was the nerf?

[night mango]

forget

[rose nova]

oopsie

[mellow hedge]

they like halfed the spawns and reduced how often they spawn

[alpine scaffold]

Because it's tier B or it was really hard?

[lost lynx]

it was hard for a b tier

and it was bullshit

[mellow hedge]

no because it was really hard

[mellow hedge]

it isnt meant to be a b tier

[rose nova]

kdmskd but well with sec it's dark n foggy so yes, it's a matter of heavy weapons [scattergun player if possible] rushing to kill the mother first while two others [or three] defend, and of course query which door u need to do before u enter if u aren't
and then it's just same as the the first cell, three people defend with one running for ammo if necessary

and the other just rushing to search for the cell

[lost lynx]

still pre-nerf b4 was bullshit

[night mango]

ik i mean i vent fog by running back to first terminal back at spwan

so its just dark

[mellow hedge]

yup

full fog with those fucked spawns

[lost lynx]

and a mom

lol

[mellow hedge]

mom wasnt the issue

it was the spawns

sad i never played it then

i wish i did

[rose nova]

ok then u can hold on different spots
if u have foam u could try to hold the door for as much as possible, the one where the first generator is with the big door [if they don't break it]

[night mango]

@rose nova i mean once you query first spwan of cells do not change and first cell is always at the back

[rose nova]

yeah i mean if u don't know or forget for the next runs

cause it happens a lot u query first time and then u die and forget where the second is and stuff

just making sure

but well then it's just kinda knowing how to split up

sounds like u know what to do and what to expect so it's a matter of just defending on the right spot for ur team

[night mango]

i just pretend too 😄

[rose nova]

i mean no it does seem like u know kdmskd

anyone who knows the vent trick to lower the fog back knows about the level

so it's probs just a matter of good tool use and good guns and aim

[night mango]

i find this harder than R8D2 PE XD

[rose nova]

wuh

i mean i could've seen but it's been nerfed

if u played it right when ur came out

[honest parrot]

Both of them are a pain anyways

One needs good rng the other... well, if you're in a pub

Good luck convincing them you can tune it down from class 14

[burnt flume]

R8D2 sec is significantly harder if you're doing class 9

[night mango]

isn´t sec generator also same tile set as first gen room?

ye but after class 9 its fine

[rose nova]

uhhh i think it is the same tile funnily

just with different structures

also after the IV it still has extract

and i think that extracts harder

[burnt flume]

That's because the secondary is literally just 2 zones and the one alarm

It's not supposed to be long

[pallid anvil]

Funny pubbing that alarm takes me 30mins :3

[mellow hedge]

long kiting 6 times be like

[pallid anvil]

They need the clear me have to :3

[burnt flume]

that's just classic pubs

the secondary is literally 3 zones and 1 alarm, it's not that much

it just so happens that the alarm is pretty fuckin hard

[robust dawn]

when the desync is so bad you become quicksilver

[honest parrot]

I like to think you become god for a few moments

[robust dawn]

yes but then all of a sudden i get swarmed by nightmares

[honest parrot]

Or just that one scene in jojo golden wind

Where that weird white shirt guy gets super speed

[serene jewel]

I still haven't done r8c1 pe or r8d2

We keep wiping at extract

Or like the way to it

[honest parrot]

Sometimes when i look at the technical support channel I wonder where all the people that used to tune in for it went

I suppose they've gone somewhere else, for other games

[rose nova]

or maybe

they keep playing but joined the server to asks things

[honest parrot]

Yeah

I hope they got their issues fixed

[little ridge]

Damn you really like tech support

[lethal pawn]

hi guys i ve a problem about boosts, when i find them after the winning run i get nothing

[honest parrot]

Artifacts don't auto give you one, you have to get enough to get a booster

[junior latch]

you only get boosters if you find enough artifacts that the threshold goes over 1.0

[little ridge]

You dont find boosters, you find artifacts

When progress gets to [1.00] you get a booster provided you quit the expedition after failing or winning

[lethal pawn]

yeah i meant arfifacts

[little ridge]

every X artifacts you find you get a booster, see it that way

[lethal pawn]

ah ok thank you

[little ridge]

👍

[junior latch]

Overall you dont even have to worry about them too much anyway

They arent required (or rather, the game isnt balanced with them in mind)

use them if you think they might make your life easier if you wish to do so

[lethal pawn]

yep👍

[night mango]

Have a monthly payment to this bank account 123456789101112131415 and you get endless boosters

Def not sus

[mellow hedge]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[hoary crescent]

Isn't reactor far away enough for enemies not to scream in mom room?

[mellow hedge]

ensouli was standing next to mom room for ages

[junior latch]

they were in the bridge tile a long time

also wtf
why do they have permanent pen kill markers on single kills

[burnt flume]

is there something im missing

[junior latch]

hm?

[burnt flume]

just wondering if someone was streaming or something or how you're seemingly talking about our r4e1 run

[junior latch]

look in gtfo media

[burnt flume]

so it is what i thought

something in mom room from scout wave (or possibly even leaks) and it screamed and woke room

oh well

[hoary crescent]

its okay between 4 mom babies and me hosting with 5 fps it wasn't that bad

[lost lynx]

get used to those kind of alarms

[junior latch]

its only small trickles of waves

[lost lynx]

they are really common

[junior latch]

otherwise youd just walk out with nothin going on

[lost lynx]

make sure to be ready for anything once you complete an objective

in any level

GTFO likes to mess up the players

you already got the level figured out

its just the run to extract
you got this

[junior latch]

do they not have ammo anymore?

did you not shoot?

[lost lynx]

isnt the wave like 5 enemies?

[junior latch]

tho tbf you can kinda just run to extract. the scan itself is very fast

[junior latch]

pretty much

[lost lynx]

you should be able to just run past them

[burnt flume]

it can very easily get out of hand as i sorta found out in my solo, especially if you keep getting sandwiched

really you should be able to have enough health to run past everything and make it out alright

[lost lynx]

clearly something went horribly wrong

no

as long as one player is in extract

nope

only one person needs to be in extract

[wise harness]

Hi guys, I'm new to the game, and I would like to find for myself players preferably Russian-speaking as I don't understand spoken English well, I would like to get used to it, in general how is the mood with you ?))))

[burnt flume]

for the vast majority of missions in the game you only need one player to extract

[lost lynx]

#hc-europe

theres a russian server

[wise harness]

Thank you, man.

[hexed nova]

guys is chatter reborn mod fair to add for public lobby playing? cuz it only adds voicelines and not much

[lost lynx]

if they are okay with it yes

some people consider it annoying

[hoary crescent]

i hate it

[earnest forge]

I'd say ask the other players

[lost lynx]

i hate it but i use it to troll my friends

[hexed nova]

can't really ask preemptively in public lobbies

[hoary crescent]

just

dont use it lol

if they don't like it don't spawm the voice lines

that's all

[hexed nova]

i thought only i would hear them

oh well

[burnt flume]

i do find chatter reborn annoying too yes, and it has some spoiler voicelines from the story elements of later rundowns

[earnest forge]

Everyone can hear them

[hexed nova]

ill see how annoying it is in solo and then disable it

[hexed nova]

damn

[lost lynx]

thats only if you use them

[upper loom]

This is schaeffer. We're stuck behind a security door until you bring the data cubes.

[lost lynx]

SPOILER

SPOILERS

[hoary crescent]

chatter reborn mains

[lost lynx]

SPOILERS

[lusty river]

Ngl I just use chatter reborn to spam the moan voiceline to my friends

[hexed nova]

adds story related voiceliens too or just random chatter?

[hoary crescent]

see that's based

[hexed nova]

what voiceline 💀

[upper loom]

Story related

some of them are fucking annoying

[upper loom]

^

[earnest forge]

As much as I would have liked to see more of the recorded lines implemented in game properly, I find chatter reborn just spams them way too much to my taste.

[lost lynx]

the story lines are only if YOU use them

they dont say it randomly

[hexed nova]

oh alright

[lost lynx]

chatter reborn has some really cool voicelines

[hexed nova]

also, unrelated but i reached R2 now

[hexed nova]

ill play with it when solo or in party from here

[lost lynx]

good, thats the breaking point for a lot of people

:3

good luck

[hexed nova]

ain't stopping till R8, hopefully until then i can get a consistent party to play with

[honest parrot]

Heh

That's the lie everyone tells themselves

That they find a static to beat the game with

To be fair a lot of people do

[jagged citrus]

spamming voicelines will never not be funny

[fossil horizon]

"This is Schaffer I'm with the .... Bring the data.... To the...."

[honest parrot]

Big scout and we need a scout
becomes so much worse

[fossil horizon]

Big immortal scout

With a lot of tongues

And ability to drag you to itself

Love that shit

[analog flicker]

[hexed nova]

why do people slide around so much, i see all speedrunners crouch spamming when sprinting

[jagged citrus]

conserves stamina

[rose nova]

it does conserve a lil stamina but it's mostly to fidget

[hexed nova]

oh well

[rose nova]

cause it saves too little from what i know

[pine root]

The main reason people do it is to conserve movement while reloading.

[jagged citrus]

that too

also you can shoot while sliding

[pine root]

It saves enough but if you have any bad habits when it comes to stam

[rose nova]

u can also go through doors that are closing

[pine root]

It doesn’t matter

[jagged citrus]

so if you're running somewhere you can slide to shoot an enemy in front of you and maintain speed

[rose nova]

that's quite a lot of practice to pull off i imagine

or well not rlly

i just never tried it

[jagged citrus]

i mean

it depends

[rose nova]

i jump for reloads cause i like to hold my ground

[jagged citrus]

if you have a precision weapon then yeah

if you have a shotgun its pretty easy lmao

[hexed nova]

oh well

[fickle stag]

Hey, I was recently running alt:// R6C3 with a friend and two bots. We were aiming for PE but when we arrived at the scan to start the Extreme/Secondary obj, the bots refused to walk into the scan. We tried activating the checkpoint door to Zone 175 and wiping to see if it could reset the AI, but even with that, the bots would not walk into the scan in order to start the Secondary. Is there a fix to this aside from simply restarting the level?

[rose nova]

the host press esc, kicks the bots, and do the scan without them and then readd them once it's finished

it should reset them so they go into all the scans

[fickle stag]

wait you can kick and re-add bots while in the level?

[rose nova]

yes

[fickle stag]

ah wow I didn't know that 😭

thank you for the advice! We'll try it again tonight 👍

[jagged citrus]

just switch their slot to players only or locked

[upper loom]

another wave 6 choke

the grind continues 😔

[tall hawk]

gaming

[pine root]

Your so close tho

[upper loom]

lakana woke up a scout in last zone and I got like

a bajillion shadows while I was running to my defense spot

on top of wave 5 remains

that shit was cancer

i held for a minute and then died

[magic escarp]

Average lakana L

[daring ginkgo]

r4e1 pe done, hoorray 🫂

[rose nova]

already?

[daring ginkgo]

just did with those guys https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1262078579659767840

[rose nova]

ah...

[daring ginkgo]

second try

[burnt flume]

what happened the first time?

[rose nova]

man i wished i got that for my clears

[analog flicker]

[rose nova]

two tries and get the second hardest level

[daring ginkgo]

we died pretty early on class 1 sustain alarm, that take 1.5 mins, because tank spawned at 60% progress

[burnt flume]

not a bad team for sure, but there's definitely stronger ones out there - oh you're not talking about the players

[rose nova]

no ldmskdm

[daring ginkgo]

we miscalculated tank spawn time

[rose nova]

just in general have good players

[burnt flume]

rip

[rose nova]

i had to carry my own r5d2 runs quite a lot of times lol

cause i was the one that knew the level

[burnt flume]

i can't even remember how long S1 scans take anymore, god

[daring ginkgo]

i am glad i did code hunting with other guy and not just played shooting simulator on reactor

[burnt flume]

yeah I was going to say, it'd be boring if you just let someone code search alone and they were competent

[daring ginkgo]

while codehunting i messed up only on the very last room, because i forgot, that there are scout inside and aggroed him

but other dude covered me 🤝

solo codehunting seems too hard imo

[burnt flume]

it's a pretty chill time

worst part is 514A because of the fog and giants

[near stag]

almost fell asleep ngl

[daring ginkgo]

i can imagine

birther spawns were so funny actually

we come to higher left side - birther, came to right side - birther, so we moved under them

thankfully there were no birthers close to next zone

[daring ginkgo]

we actually had rly close call on second try too

tank spawned before we plugged both cells in zone 458 and we literally had 0 ammo, 2 guys were downed, i and other dude were alive

he focused on me and thankfully stuck in place, so other dude, who already had full infection, got some resources in this room with generators and we killed this tank

[jagged citrus]

solo with bots when

[daring ginkgo]

bruh, no way

[jagged citrus]

lmao

congrats on pe completion

<3

[daring ginkgo]

thanks 🫂

[burnt flume]

zzzzzzz

would never happen if i was there!

[junior latch]

Yes

Cuz goat would somehow summon a pub that would make the whole thing the funniest chaos and near wipe possible while still honestly having a chill run overall

[burnt flume]

or because i am very efficient at looting and good at killing tank/waves

[daring ginkgo]

i dont need grey hairs

[jagged citrus]

hey we dont always need a carry

[analog flicker]

[storm fable]

Uhh guys i was just reading about gtfo wiki

And found put about this…

Mother?

[fossil horizon]

Mother

[storm fable]

Yea that and she has 1000 health while helping revolver has 8.1 damage

How are you suppose to kill her?

She too thicc

[daring ginkgo]

check her tumors multiplier

[storm fable]

I thought it was stat came from helldi er2

[storm fable]

Oh it has damage multiplier

Nice ok that makes sense

Is scattergun good for dealing with her?

[junior latch]

scattergun

[storm fable]

Man its my favourite

You can use it as shotgun when needed to be

Very flexable unlike sniper

[timber tinsel]

Flexible?

[storm fable]

Yea when it needed to be

When im forced to use special ammo

[daring ginkgo]

idk about "Flexible" part, it is good for big targets or bosses

like you cant probably just spam it vs small fries, cause it has so little ammo

[storm fable]

Yea at least I can kill them unlike sniper where if you use it one small ones

[wraith marsh]

nah you can spam it

2 kills a shot is not hard

[storm fable]

Yea

Btw can precision rifle one shot scout in the head?

I like sniper but its too much

Too much firepower

[little ridge]

yes

[storm fable]

Niceee but anywhere in head right?

Not like back of the head?

[rose nova]

yes anywhere

[storm fable]

Ok I rock precision then

Fuck sniper

[little ridge]

range counts

for kill

[rose nova]

there's a lot of guns that can deal with scouts pretty easily so

[storm fable]

Huh?

[little ridge]

guns have a dropoff range

[storm fable]

Ok then what is best weapon to deal with scout at long range

[rose nova]

oh yeah prec rifle if u like shoot at 70 meters or more it may not oneshot
like across rooms

... prec rifle

and sniper

[little ridge]

best? Sniper

[wraith marsh]

hel rifle p good too

[little ridge]

otherwise I'm pretty sure HEL Rifle does nice

[rose nova]

prec rifle still needs a lot of range to really lose its dmg

[jagged citrus]

sniper, hel rifle, prec rifle

[little ridge]

then PR

[wraith marsh]

if you need to shoot through an enemy to kill

[jagged citrus]

dmr 🙃

[little ridge]

HiCal on head is perhaps very forgiving though.

Like most things, I'm pretty sure tru has a chart for it

[storm fable]

Huh?

[daring ginkgo]

hel rifle is great, 40m dropoff, can penetrate targets

[storm fable]

Hmmm then what is best overall weapon for those 3?

[daring ginkgo]

scouts stands no chance

[rose nova]

all

rlly

[wraith marsh]

hel rifle

easily

[storm fable]

Hmm i mean hel does have over penetration

[wraith marsh]

but theyre all an acquired taste

[rose nova]

snipers the best but inflexible
prec rifle is good and flexible
hel rifle is yeah kinda very good

[jagged citrus]

they each have their niche

hel rifle is the most generally good

[mellow hedge]

snipers the best

[little ridge]

hel rifle gets a big plus on versatility compared to PR or sniper

[rose nova]

for scouts only

[mellow hedge]

hmmmm

[storm fable]

Trueee

[daring ginkgo]

sniper can oneshot giants tho

[rose nova]

still not good

[little ridge]

chargers get tapped, it pens, good range, can hipfire if you really are in a pinch

[storm fable]

Ok im big fan of hel gun so I should probably rock hel rifle

[mellow hedge]

sniper is one of the worst guns in the game

[storm fable]

I feels so good to use though

[rose nova]

if not just go hel gun and hit the occi
or melee em

[storm fable]

Its like forbidden drug

I mean like hitting occi is goos way to kill but im not sure im that skillfun

Skillfull

But anyway thx for recommendations

[rose nova]

i mean it isn't that hard
u just wait till it turns around and hel gun it but well

[storm fable]

So if hit in occi scout can be one tapped

[wraith marsh]

if youre trying to shoot a scout

you rly dont want to wait for occi

[daring ginkgo]

keep in mind, hel gun have 15m dmg falloff

[wraith marsh]

you take a gun that can shoot scouts for a reason

[storm fable]

Hmm i will rock hel rifle first I want to try it

[junior latch]

hel rifle is pretty much a simpler hel gun

[little ridge]

Guns exist in an environment of other people, so maybe someone in the team has a gun that can onetap easily

[junior latch]

in return its not as good if played to its peak

[little ridge]

ALSO SPAIN SCORES

[jolly imp]

Ummm.... Debatable

[little ridge]

🇪🇸

[junior latch]

theres rly no debate
killing on bodyshots, 1 tapping chargers, anywhere hs on scout
more range

all make it simpler to use

[jolly imp]

Hel Rifle has higher skill floor, Hel Rifle could Penetrate 5 targets

Hel DMR has higher skill ceiling

[storm fable]

Wait it kills on bodyshot”

Wt

[junior latch]

the skill floor, if you mean its better even when you start -> yes
skill floor, if you mean its harder to pick up -> no

[junior latch]

yes
it kills any small enemy and chargers on bodyshots

[storm fable]

Damnnn im def trying it out

[daring ginkgo]

low total and clip ammo also

[junior latch]

eh

[storm fable]

Whatever im sure internet tierlist will help me

[junior latch]

9 per refill is pretty average (pretty much the same as high cal, shotgun and choke mod) but you get pen kills

[jolly imp]

Um... Maybe I'm wrong, It's just my "Anti-Overspill" DMG guns, So Hel Rifle feels Psychologically harder to use than Hel DMR

[storm fable]

Thx bros

[little ridge]

Whatever you wanna choose, try to get something that fills with the team

[junior latch]

get a pen kill on every 2nd shot and you already have 13,5 kills/refill. Thats more than most players ever get on other guns

[daring ginkgo]

i mean, hel rifle kinda punishes you, if you miss shots

[burnt flume]

hel rifle players punish themselves mainly by refusing to aim

[little ridge]

you've to miss a bodyshot

[junior latch]

thats just a thing in general lol

[burnt flume]

why yes i will hipfire 3 times and miss this striker that's in front of me!

[fossil horizon]

Burst pistol short rifle fits in any team

[little ridge]

missing a bodyshot is real bad

[jolly imp]

Just like Hel DMR but the dmg won't spill

[burnt flume]

what the fuck is a hel dmr

[jolly imp]

Sry, I mean Hel Gun, I called it HEL DMR all the time

[little ridge]

I remember HEL IRON

Who was that called Hel rev "HEL Iron"?

[burnt flume]

the bastard child

[jolly imp]

LoL wtf

[fossil horizon]

Pump action

[little ridge]

I thnik it was sleepy

[junior latch]

you rly dont "spill" considering that 30 hp is a very common breakpoint to use aside from strikers

[daring ginkgo]

no joke i sometimes miss body shots, while enemy is in hel rifle no scope full circle somehow

like magic pixel

skill issue probably

[fossil horizon]

Take scattergun, with scattergun you will hit enemy

[little ridge]

keep in mind that the circle gets far off with high fov

[daring ginkgo]

i have default fov

[little ridge]

unless you use the mod that fixes it

[shut vapor]

Chad!

[little ridge]

ah ok nvm then

[junior latch]

whats the r8a2 pw website again ?

[little ridge]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

[jolly imp]

What about the DMG spill of HEL Rifle? Unlike Hel Gun, Everyshot feels like shit when enemies won't stack up at least 2 because the Damage Overspill feels sucks, Unlike Hel Gun with only 3 Penetration with 15.7-ish dmg, The same reason it feels Icky to shoot at normal goons with 30+ dmg guns,

I love low Damage per bullet guns.

[junior latch]

??

hel gun does 16.25

[shut vapor]

You went to find the message but you didn't just copy the link?

[jolly imp]

Um... IDK how to fix my Hoarder mindset

[junior latch]

and you dont get dmg "overspill" vs shooters/chargers/giants anyway

dmg overspill also isnt an issue here

[wraith marsh]

sooooo

[jolly imp]

Sry, it's kinda -ish

[wraith marsh]

if we headshot we have overspill

[little ridge]

ehhh

[junior latch]

^^

[wraith marsh]

if we 2 body shot we have the same overspill

where is the benefit

[rose nova]

conclusion don't use hel gun :3 /j

[fossil horizon]

Just use scattergun, scattergun knows where it hits

[little ridge]

Damage spill isn't a thing... so

I'll also tell you one thing, other players exist and have guns in your team

so even stuff like "missing" a onetap with scatter on a giant isn't a big issue

[junior latch]

scattergun when you kill enemies spills like 110 (rather more) dmg

[little ridge]

Or you can swap to main gun

[junior latch]

but its more efficient at that point than a high cal spilling 20

dmg spill doesnt matter

[shut vapor]

Can't spill if you don't shoot

[jolly imp]

Well, I don't wanna be Ammo-Burner than much, But maybe that's just "Support Player" and Potential Perfectionist Mindset I hold

[fossil horizon]

Scattergun accumulate spilled damage and return it to you resulting in death

[shut vapor]

Burning ammo with hel weapons?

[little ridge]

There's a chart with kills per ammo refill use somewhere but IMHO it really doesn't matter

You burn ammo mainly if you dont hit something

[burnt flume]

support player extends beyond your weapon picks and weapon bullet efficiency

[jolly imp]

I know that it logically wouldn't matter that much but I feels like "Aye... I'm just using too much ammo for the team"

[shut vapor]

That's only valid if you have everyone shooting the same small target

[burnt flume]

guarantee you that if you play in a team of good players you wouldn't feel this way

because they'd hit shots, they'd get the ammo before you, they wouldn't give you as much ammo

[jolly imp]

Damn... I hate my own perfectionism

[junior latch]

ammo efficiency would be what you are looking for

not "dmg overspill"

but even the efficiency doesnt matter too much, you can often just fully shoot with anything anyway and clear

[fossil horizon]

In gargancha people survive only following rules of nature, found ammo then eat it so others don't get it

[wraith marsh]

idk its not even perfectionism here

[jolly imp]

I use Hel Auto Pistol and tap-tap so yeah

[shut vapor]

HAP

[little ridge]

I'm going to sound rude and say that you want to be called perfectionist because it's a compliment

[burnt flume]

no-one is perfect in gtfo anyway, you should be looking at much different places if you're striving for perfection

[junior latch]

it also rly depends who you are playing with and what situation

[jolly imp]

That's the problem, IDK WTF is wrong with me tbh

[burnt flume]

like seriously, there's so much more to this game than ammo efficiency that you're entirely missing the point if you're striving for perfection

[little ridge]

If you want to be a perfectionist, try to aim as good as you can and not miss hits

really, missing is something way more influential than "overspilling"

[burnt flume]

anyone who wants to get as good as they feasibly can won't be sweating their aim too hard because inconsistency is a real thing that you can't control, yes building consistency is something you do to get better but you can never be playing at 100% all the time

[jolly imp]

I sometimes feels like "Damn, I could penetrate 1-2 mores of the wave"

[daring ginkgo]

Just use hel autopistol and spray everywere

[burnt flume]

which is why you instead look towards gamesense and your decision making processes

[shut vapor]

You need to get off hel weapons with that mindset or you'll never shoot

[upper loom]

hel revo, hel shotgun, and hel gun are all stupid efficient without pen anyway just shoot the enemies

[burnt flume]

tbh it's only really in my past 60 or so hours of playtime that i've started really going for big pens

[jolly imp]

Hel Gun isn't that bad, It's basically M Revolver But better

[burnt flume]

you don't even have 300 hours in the game yet, please worry about something else in your gameplay, sincerely

[shut vapor]

I'm not saying it's bad

[jolly imp]

Their Pen is only 1 target though, unlike Hel Rifle that could penetrate 5 enemies

[jolly imp]

I don't blame anyone here, I don't know what is wrong with me, I simply trying to explain Why I feel what I feel., why do you seems so pissed for me addressing my concerns?

[daring ginkgo]

Hel shotgun have nice spread for wide crowds and good stagger

Even with 1 pierce

[shut vapor]

Hel shotty sucks!!!!!!!!!! Grrrrr

[daring ginkgo]

No

[shut vapor]

Long live sleepyboi

[daring ginkgo]

Hel shotgun for me is like panic button,when crowd of enemies come close

[jolly imp]

There's that one level with somekind of "Shotty Only" achievement, our squad bring 4 Hel Shotty, The Finale Sequence blood door's Strikers became a fucking joke and we've been laughing our asses real bad.

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah,good vs small fries

Or babies

[shut vapor]

I'd always take sawed off over hel shotty because hel shotty sounds horrible when shooting

[jolly imp]

True

[shut vapor]

Tbf if you aren't playing with weapons based on vibes you are doing it wrong 😤

[jolly imp]

"And They hate Jesus for telling the truth"

[blissful dome]

We do not speak of the cursed one here

Wrong reply I might just die

[jolly imp]

Best Rundown for Low-Tech Achievement?

[formal mortar]

@jolly imp Probably R1C1

[daring ginkgo]

On reactor lvl? Using turrets will fail this achievement?

[junior latch]

you can pretty easily just shoot the whole lvl tbf

[daring ginkgo]

🤔 fair

[junior latch]

but ye say R4C2 is probably obscenely free without tools

[burnt flume]

oh yeah r4c2 isn't that hard

[jagged citrus]

main only?

yeah

theres only a couple alarms and thats basically it right

[junior latch]

you can do the level with only 2 alarms

[jagged citrus]

is the cell door alarmed

ive literally never gone that way

[daring ginkgo]

No

[junior latch]

idk

nobody goes there

cuz wy

would you

[daring ginkgo]

I go

[jagged citrus]

i mean

[daring ginkgo]

Fck giants in other zone

[jagged citrus]

i would see you going there if you were doing main only

[junior latch]

its probably one of the only zones ive never been to

[jagged citrus]

otherwise yeah why bother

[junior latch]

eh
youd need to do another alarm to get the cell

[jagged citrus]

i mean

yeah

sorry

i meant do it instead of the zone 12 alarm

[junior latch]

12 gives you 2 zones

without alarms

8 and 9

[jagged citrus]

except wait no the key spawns in 12 doesnt it

yeah why would you ever go that way lmao

[junior latch]

the only time you might wanna go 13 (cell zone) into 15 is if both have 4

but then you still DO NOT NEED 15

[jagged citrus]

i guess if you were soloing with bots and didnt want to go into a zone full of giants 🙃

[junior latch]

cuz 13 will be enough with the other zones

[junior latch]

just sneak

people forget how easy it is to just afk sneak

might take hours but who cares

[jagged citrus]

or shoot

[junior latch]

also bots can easily help kill

or just shoot ye

[jagged citrus]

in conclusion darksaid is a goober

[daring ginkgo]

Those zones with giants are too big

[jagged citrus]

is this your solo with bots journey or is this you playing the level normally?

[blissful dome]

???

[junior latch]

8 is pretty much a "i sprint through this" zone

[daring ginkgo]

Foggy zones just tight corridors mostly or small rooms

[junior latch]

9 i can see cuz its dark and sometimes very twisted

[jagged citrus]

9 is just a pain

[junior latch]

8 is big open rooms

[jagged citrus]

oftentimes we just pull the rooms in 9 cuz we cant be arsed to actually clear it

[junior latch]

speedrun route currently in record is 10, 11, 12 and 8

[daring ginkgo]

Solo with bots

[junior latch]

tho you might prefer 10, 11, 12 and 14 if you get best spawns. but nobody would grind for that

[jagged citrus]

mmm

i dunno

what enemies are in 15?

[daring ginkgo]

With real people i would take zones with giants ngl

[jagged citrus]

and is the extra class 3 alarm really worse than a couple zones with giants

?

[junior latch]

im gonna go in there for the first time now

[jagged citrus]

better

[junior latch]

[jagged citrus]

whatever

[daring ginkgo]

Strikers and shooters

[jagged citrus]

lmk what you find in there im curious

[daring ginkgo]

No big guys iirc

[junior latch]

15 just isnt worth time wise either

[jagged citrus]

you gotta walk your happy ass with the turbine alllll the way back there

and then alllllll the way back the other way if you're doing pe

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, no problem if you go solo with bots, but with real people eh

Too slow

Not everyone have patience for 2-3h long levels like me xd

[jagged citrus]

do you have pe for r4c2 yet?

with the bots?

[jagged citrus]

me when r4c3 pe

[daring ginkgo]

I did all lvls until r5a1 pe

[junior latch]

r4c2 main sub 10 was an experience i wont ever repeat until we get maid to finish the setup for knowing spawns

cuz fuck tat lvl

[jagged citrus]

except for r4e1

;)

[latent palm]

@junior latch stream when

[junior latch]

you mean the last few days didnt exist?

[daring ginkgo]

Did today with real people

[latent palm]

yes

it didnt

i want new stream

[jagged citrus]

close enough

cant wait for you to do r5b1 pe

[daring ginkgo]

Its not like i did ALL previous lvls with bots tho

[junior latch]

15 is fucking fully fogged

who would ever go there

[jagged citrus]

id assumed it was

is the enemy density as high as it is everywhere else

[jagged citrus]

hey if you did r2e1 you could do anything

[daring ginkgo]

R4e1 impossible with bots i am pretty sure

[junior latch]

r4c2 density isnt high ?

its pretty mid at best

[blissful dome]

R4c2 is

Honk mimimi

[blissful dome]

Eva I need c2 carry

<3

[jagged citrus]

i would say just let em down and then do solo strats

[junior latch]

holy shit

[jagged citrus]

but you need em for scans

[junior latch]

15 is horrible

its not bad enemy wise

[daring ginkgo]

Naah, i dont want to kite for hours

[junior latch]

rly just smalls

but fully fogged

and pretty much a labyrinth

[blissful dome]

Fog is best mechanic

[jagged citrus]

real foghead hours

fogpilled infectionmaxxing

and the terminals way back in that corner too

disgusting

[junior latch]

god

i already hated r4c2

but thats disgusting

imagine if somebody forced you to do r4c2 pe

but you had to do 15 and 9

[jagged citrus]

i dont mind 9 honestly

[junior latch]

cuz it also forces you to do all alarms

[jagged citrus]

if you have two competent people with sledgehammers who hang out together then its chill most of the time

or just gun

id rather deal with giants than fog

[daring ginkgo]

Only rooms on secondary is pretty high density, especially with 3 surge alarm doors

With shadows

[jagged citrus]

secondary has stupid density

[junior latch]

the 2 secondary pre id zones ye

[jagged citrus]

have literally never cleared one of the secondary rooms

always pulled

[burnt flume]

there's a box with foggies for you there eva

[jagged citrus]

FOGGERS

[junior latch]

RAAAAAA

@mellow plume

[jagged citrus]

[blissful dome]

Fog repellers here

[junior latch]

i used 2-3 seconds to grab foggies in r4c2

[blissful dome]

uwu

[blissful dome]

Worth?

[jagged citrus]

MAJOR TIMELOSS

[shut vapor]

Embrace the fog

For it is coming

[junior latch]

we didnt even go into 14

[jagged citrus]

have you taken the fogpill anons?

[mellow plume]

EVA THROWING

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[junior latch]

oh btw hani

tmrw you down for r3 full rundown?

@burnt flume

[jagged citrus]

whats the time prediction for that?

sub hour?

[junior latch]

na

[jagged citrus]

yeah with that attitude

[junior latch]

you cant get sub hour rly

[jagged citrus]

whats the bottleneck?

i guess there is a reactor

[burnt flume]

I coulddddd

[jagged citrus]

and isnt b1 a cell distribution?

lots of walking simulator

[burnt flume]

might also need to go shopping at some point but that's not too hard to do

[daring ginkgo]

Stream tomorrow?

[junior latch]

aim should be like

A1: 6 or lower
A2: 7 or lower (realistically 5 or lower if good)
A3: 17:30
B1: 10
B2: 10
C1: 10
D1: sub 13

so like 1:15 probably

[junior latch]

yea

bit later due to work

[jagged citrus]

lmao so its the reactor

[daring ginkgo]

Nice

[junior latch]

probably gonna start at 5pm berlin time

[jagged citrus]

shocker

[junior latch]

i work til 4 so you could go before ?

@mellow plume r3 rundown% runs tmrw?

[burnt flume]

yea i can do that

now we wait for hani to read stream chat

[mellow hedge]

Rare Hani facecam

[daring ginkgo]

Good, only 1h time difference with my time zone

[jagged citrus]

man

thats like

directly in the middle of my shift

[blissful dome]

Berlin time...

[daring ginkgo]

Also i completely forgot r3 lvls except c1 and d1, would be nice to refresh memories

[junior latch]

A1 is fast n simple (has a fun glitched trick, we cant use tho)
A2 is rng but fun (honestly id recommend checking the R3A2 WR run)
A3 is a reactor so kinda afk
B1 is boring af
B2 is neat
C1 is ass
D1 is goated

[jagged citrus]

a1 is carry baby, a2 is gen cluster with only blood doors, a3 is reactor, b1 is cell distribution, b2 i smom

wait

maybe the b's are the other way around

i forgor 💀

[junior latch]

b2 is carrying cells to go forward but you move baby (also mom intro ye)

B1 is uplinks

[daring ginkgo]

Right, now i remember b2, cause birther introduction

[jagged citrus]

UPLINKS thats right

am stupid

[daring ginkgo]

B1 is uplinks with shadows?

[junior latch]

we spend 2 months to get the R3B2 time

no shadows

[jagged citrus]

no shadows

[junior latch]

thats r2c1

[jagged citrus]

you're thinking of r2c1

lmao

[junior latch]

man the R3 speedrun months were goated

A1, A2, B2 and D1 were so much fun to do

[jagged citrus]

i thought c1 was ok when the waves worked

[daring ginkgo]

Okay, i am going to bed, see you tomorrow 👋

[jagged citrus]

night night

[junior latch]

C1 speedruns are ass

massive rng

[jagged citrus]

good point

i guess if you get a shit hsu spawn the run just dies huh

[blissful dome]

PID :3

Wait shit

That's c2

I'm so

Dementia

[junior latch]

R3C1

..

[junior latch]

in solo runs yes
in rundown% we arent optimized yet AT ALL

but the issue is that bad key and bad hsu add litteraly 2 minutes in run time. And thats not even considering that you need more ammo since you are running deeper and probably have a higher risk of dying too

[blissful dome]

Am I losing it

Chat

I might implode

[alpine scaffold]

HOW THE FUCK WE DO

R6D4 Last alarm

HOW

someone explain pls

[jagged citrus]

with difficulty

[blissful dome]

Which one is this

[wicked solstice]

Error surge

[alpine scaffold]

💀

if it is like r5c3 secondary wich we just close the doors, but no

[modern coral]

Get cell past wave OR push and clear wave spawn out of the path.

[blissful dome]

Technically-

Sorry

[alpine scaffold]

wait what

sorry i'm not englishian or idk

[modern coral]

Probably also a play to bring wave to the left, an then move cell down the right path and close big door behind you.

[modern coral]

What specifically is confusing.

You can kill wave and spawn block it to push it towards spawn, which is out of the way of where cell needs to go.

[junior latch]

tbf most groups will just foam the path

rush cell

and then walk past

[alpine scaffold]

foam the path?

like

[blissful dome]

???

[alpine scaffold]

use all the c-foamnades?

[junior latch]

but you can definetly shoot the wave with a simple line up

the only real harder part on that is that you have to get past it and get a door closed to gain ground

[analog flicker]

foam the wave

[modern coral]

You get the wave into the big room w/ you, where you stall it by either staggering it or foaming it on one side of the room. Cell walks up other side.

[latent palm]

Foam wave?

Ongod?

[modern coral]

Ideally you take foam launcher

[blissful dome]

What tools did you bring

Just curious

[alpine scaffold]

we're doing duo, but probably we will increase 1 more player

• bishop

[junior latch]

i did duo with foam n mines

[blissful dome]

So what tools

[alpine scaffold]

cfoam and mine

sentry wasnt all that useful

my duo bring hel pp

and i

hel shotgun

even the T-scan wasnt hard with this setup

[burnt flume]

@junior latch did hani ever answer the question about running tomorrow?

[latent palm]

[junior latch]

no

lemme aks

[burnt flume]

who else is playing? frosty, myself, you?

[junior latch]

ive asked a few for 4th

[burnt flume]

ah alrighty

[junior latch]

wanna see who we can get

would love for bread to join

sadly too late for kenny

[burnt flume]

i see i see

[modern coral]

GTFO% or other?

[junior latch]

R3

[burnt flume]

Rundown 3

[junior latch]

full rundown

[modern coral]

Ah

[junior latch]

i mean if you wanna join ray

wait rayyyyyy

[burnt flume]

a german and 2 farm animals walk into a bar

[junior latch]

what are you doin rn

[junior latch]

hes hiding

[blissful dome]

Solace

:3

[junior latch]

getting bread would be such a good meme base for this

[burnt flume]

you're right

[analog flicker]

what iTKiity

[mellow plume]

yuhhh

[analog flicker]

[blissful dome]

Heyyyy

<3

[burnt flume]

a german and 2 farm animals walk into a bar, and start fighting over who gets the bread

[blissful dome]

Wow chat died

[mystic moss]

can i get the tomoko sipping coffee emoji

[rose nova]

so ur on the room with the three platforms, where the error door is
what players do is- they foam entirely one of the side paths, the stairs- a bit of the hallway and a bit of the platform
then one person rushes for cell, and the other stays to deal with both flyers and to check all the enemies from the alarm are getting foamed
then u rush outside killing anything that unfreezes, and as soon as u get out of that zone u take a right and close and foam the door behind u, u don't have to mine it u can just foam it

and then u just keep rushing closing doors behind

[alpine scaffold]

flyers?

[rose nova]

it has some

:3

once u kill like 3 they don't appear anymore tho

cause they just get spawncapped

[modern coral]

Not spawncapped

[analog flicker]

[modern coral]

heat bug*

[blissful dome]

Spawncap uwu

[junior latch]

ray

tsk tsk tsk

[modern coral]

That alarm in general does not hit spawn cap like surge does.

[junior latch]

avoiding answering messages

[blissful dome]

I'm pretty sure the wiki says it's like a surge cause it hits spawncap usually

Very funny

[burnt flume]

you got your answer eva

what is ray doing right now? not answering you

[junior latch]

[blissful dome]

Denied </3

[modern coral]

??

I have no messages rn

[blissful dome]

I can't type rn

[junior latch]

</3

[rose nova]

ok i get it but i- i am gonna just say spawncap kdmskmd

cause it's just easier to explain

[junior latch]

this one and the ones below

@modern coral

[rose nova]

i don't have to get into code bugs to explain this part

[blissful dome]

Avoided

[modern coral]

Oh

I can run rn, yeah.

[junior latch]

oh shit you missunderstood

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[junior latch]

runs would be tmrw at <t:1721055600:t> and later

[analog flicker]

Ray was down for it rn

[blissful dome]

8 am...

[analog flicker]

wild

[blissful dome]

Hmmmmmm

[junior latch]

i was asking if you were doin any thing incase you hadnt watched the shitpost, cuz if you hadnt id rly love to see/hear your live reaction

[burnt flume]

it all comes back to the shitpost

[junior latch]

its 0:30 and i got work tmrw i cant do Rundown 3% speedruns with my mom asleep. shed kill me

[modern coral]

I can run tomorrow, but raids 9 hours after that time for 2h.

[junior latch]

huh?

raids 9 hours after that time for 2h? wdym

[blissful dome]

100% speedrun? Nah 3%

[modern coral]

This is 11:00 AM for me. at 8:30PM I'm doing GW2 Raids until 10:30PM.

[junior latch]

aaah

we wont run that long

[modern coral]

K, then.

[junior latch]

👍

[burnt flume]

east coast gaming

[junior latch]

and if you havent (and want to) watch the shitpost rn let me know

[burnt flume]

i wouldn't want to be doing runs at 3:30 anyway

[junior latch]

i wanna send ray into the fog zone
he will love it (surely)

[modern coral]

I do like the fog zone, tho.

[burnt flume]

which fog zone where

[junior latch]

r3a2

[modern coral]

R3A2

[burnt flume]

ah, less work for me then

[junior latch]

will ray get the TOP G cell

[burnt flume]

guessing on far north zone you can probably just walk to term which is in the first room on the left

and ping your cell

[junior latch]

we will know spawns

[burnt flume]

oh that's mapped out

cool

[junior latch]

wesley worked on that a ton

[burnt flume]

just tell me where to go ig

[junior latch]

at least from what i remember they got all spawns

ye 👍

tbh since we wont be getting god rng most likely we just aim for a 5 min one there anyway

[burnt flume]

what's wr again? 3:48?

[junior latch]

3:39

[mellow hedge]

I’m in this one?

[junior latch]

r3a2 is where ya guys stopped

which makes sense

we had R3 BC and R3 sniper

[mellow hedge]

I mean as in I’m in the rundown%?

[junior latch]

aah

for this one its probably ray, hani and goat

oh btw @mellow hedge

i was checking r8

a2*

i think for gtfo% its maybe better to do main

depending on how fast you can do it

since its a lot safer to do in a good speed

[mellow hedge]

Idk maybe

[junior latch]

i wanted to test that with you earlier

[mellow hedge]

I didn’t get a message back

Was on call

[junior latch]

cuz im planning to do R8A2 runs later this week

on call 👀

[mellow hedge]

Yaa

Still am 😌

[junior latch]

ayo

but ye

R8A2 is the next level i rly wanna get a good time on

[mellow hedge]

Ya same

[shut vapor]

Can't wait to have to cancel my germany trip

[shut vapor]

Training not good enough for you anymore?

[junior latch]

hey you know
after 2 years i gotta level it up somehow (funnily enough, training speedruns were like 2 years ago)

[junior latch]

WHA?

[shut vapor]

Resits have a chance to fuck over the trip

[junior latch]

oof