gtfo-chat

[blissful dome]

ban yourself any%

[mellow hedge]

Erm this isnt GTFO related 🤓 ☝️

[fleet kettle]

Shut it

[blissful dome]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[fleet kettle]

[blissful dome]

ong frfr

[pure dew]

The return of beep

[blissful dome]

nuhuh

[little ridge]

I'm not beep

[blissful dome]

^

[little ridge]

and neither sleepy

[blissful dome]

youre both sleepy and beep

[little ridge]

It's just a similiar nickname

[blissful dome]

the perfect specimen

[little ridge]

I miss beep

I dont miss sleepy

[blissful dome]

LMAO

real

who misses sleepy lmao

[pure dew]

Beep

(I've no clue about the gtfo community lore)

[stiff trail]

Dev make game, then we play the game, then we talk game...that's pretty much the community lore

The game's lore on the other hand....

[wild thunder]

they're talking about a former member

and he has crazy lore behind his uh , forceful retirement

your profile picture reminds me of a 1960's poster , can't decide if soviet or american

[stiff trail]

Well considering it's red it's probably the Reds then

[wild thunder]

maybe

but the design is more of an american character

[latent palm]

Angry maid shouting at ifo?

This makes me so proud

Which reminds me

@blissful dome stfu

I see you playin werthender

[blissful dome]

:3

[blissful dome]

warthunder brainrot is getting to me

send help

[latent palm]

Nah you stay there

[blissful dome]

you hate me

ok

</3

[latent palm]

Yeah bc youre busy warthundering

[short crescent]

im beyond repair with my 7k hours

[blissful dome]

seek help

[short crescent]

i have kinda stopped now

after i did paid grinds for people it exhausted me to my core

[blissful dome]

hm

rip

[rose nova]

get 7k hours in gtfo

[blissful dome]

hmmm

thats worse

[mellow hedge]

tell that to a certain someone

[forest prism]

Yo, how do we clear R1C1 shit is too damn hard

[lost lynx]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[rose nova]

heyyy

i wan gonna do it

also this is bad it recommends sniper smh

:b

[lost lynx]

there

fixed it

[rose nova]

:D

[lost lynx]

hel rifle

my beloved

[blissful dome]

who

[rose nova]

good enough

[blissful dome]

recommending sniper smh

lame

[forest prism]

Thank you, kind Captain

[blissful dome]

how do you do eval smh

i need help on the tank and pmom

[lost lynx]

what?

[blissful dome]

training

the funny red button

[rose nova]

:3

[lost lynx]

what

[blissful dome]

pable please

[lost lynx]

theres no tank on training

heh

[blissful dome]

nah

the 4 nscouts are really annoying

how do you kill them

[lost lynx]

oh wait

r8a2

[lost lynx]

foam them

[blissful dome]

dumbass

you little stupid

[lost lynx]

and have other people hit the tumors

THE TUMORS

[blissful dome]

little goofy

nah

[lost lynx]

hitting anything else wont do damage

[blissful dome]

just rush them after false extract

its easy

[lost lynx]

good way to get you killed

[blissful dome]

it works???

i smell a krill tissue

[lost lynx]

sometimes

other times you can get fucked by RNG

[blissful dome]

skill issue tbh

[lost lynx]

ok

[blissful dome]

sorry bae

<3

ly

[lost lynx]

die

[fossil horizon]

@hollow quarry what are the randomizing elements that will be used on charity stream ?

[mellow hedge]

surprise squats

[fossil horizon]

Damn 10 tamagochi streamers

[latent palm]

Leonardo gamings

[halcyon prism]

dear liberals

I need to get a life, is anybody selling?

[gentle niche]

Try the facebook marketplace, i'm sure people will sell anything on there

[thick temple]

You're asking in a discord server for a game where, if you really want to get good enough for everything, you have to either be rather gifted, or practically give up your life
Not sure this is the best place to ask

[blissful dome]

a bit extreme of a description id say

[thick temple]

Yeah it's definitely a bit of hyperbole lol

But it's a kind of funny one

[nimble pumice]

I think you are right on actually

this is afterall the dark souls of fps horror co op pvm games

[blissful dome]

eh

[primal harness]

Gtfo shutting down?

[mystic moss]

tomorrow

[blissful dome]

massive

[little ridge]

Dark Souls is the Dark Souls of Dark Souls-like Dark Souls games

[blissful dome]

ofc

[wraith marsh]

The prophecy was for June right

[primal harness]

game will be removed from steam?

[blissful dome]

hmmm

yes

[little ridge]

I think Chill Dude means this #game-announcements message

[blissful dome]

very much

lmao

[wraith marsh]

Nah

There was some guy a bit back who joined the server to ask why gtfo was shutting down in june

And we memed on them a bunch

[little ridge]

I'll be sincere

[primal harness]

This June, 10 Chambers is hosting a 96 hour stream where the goal is to finish all 83 GTFO expeditions in one go. Between june 10 and june 14 is when it’s going down.

[little ridge]

I expected the game to be way less alive than it is by now

[primal harness]

Is when its going down means?

[tall hawk]

event is "going down"

[little ridge]

they refer to the event

[primal harness]

Oh

[little ridge]

I expected by now this Discord vcs to be all empty or to have like 2-3 groups at most

[tall hawk]

weekdays are pretty dead

[little ridge]

while it has a gigantical... 15?

[primal harness]

need more update

[little ridge]

Not gonna happen

Perhaps, if we want to hope, they'll restore Sniper to pre-turbo nerf status

I dont expect any new levels or anything new tbh, I'm pretty sure they're "done" with GTFO

And are probably hosting that event only to publicize DoW in some manner

Perhaps they'll do a freeweek during that event

But I doubt

[primal harness]

Oh ok, thanks, lets see

[pine root]

They need to buff the choke mod shotgun for the dev marathon

[junior latch]

Gtfo also rld doesnt „need“ more content updates
(Obviously would be welcome)

game has a ton of content, modded adds even more

what would be great are bug fixes and some fine tuning on balance (revert sniper lol)

[wraith marsh]

infinite ammo perhaps?

[junior latch]

and mag size

cant forget the mag size otherwise its weak

[little ridge]

read that as choke dev shotgun for the mod marathon

[modern coral]

I think it'd be okay w/ a better reload, still.

Its uptime is just fucking awful rn, too many trade-offs for versatility.

I do wonder if 10cc is going to have their sweatiest gamers play, because like...

I feel like they usually make very little progress on slightly easy levels.

Have they ever streamed a successful E-tier?

[pseudo sedge]

we believe in the r8e2 clear

[modern coral]

Naw, they're gonna be relatable to the average player and get stuck on R2D2.

Non-zero chance of happening.

But does depend on who's playing.

[burnt flume]

it's fine, they'll get like 1-2 reasonably skilled but not exceptionally accomplished players to help out

from the creator program

[modern coral]

Might actually go hard.

[mystic moss]

can't wait to watch r2e1

[modern coral]

We need Beth and Hani to carry the R8E2.

[burnt flume]

oh yes please

I want to see that

beth hani 10cc 10cc r8e2 clear

I don't know if they've got any insane players like beth or hani lined up though

[mellow hedge]

if their run of e2 is under 1:10 ill donate $50

[mystic moss]

i'm assuming it's only players part of the creator's program

which is like..

how many people?

[burnt flume]

uh I mean I think I can name 4 or 5?

or maybe more like 6 because scaler exists

[mystic moss]

eva, mako, scaler, idk the rest

[burnt flume]

but nobody remembers scaler because he's rarely around

[little ridge]

One day I'll ask why scaler is so much hated

[burnt flume]

nymn, digitalvagrant, I think flan as well?

[modern coral]

I dunno if he's hated tbh.

[mystic moss]

who tf hates scaler

[burnt flume]

nobody

[little ridge]

I remember me answering to someone that asked which guy to look on youtube for guides and I answered scaler

and got clown emojis

[mellow hedge]

they get no pussy

[mystic moss]

maybe your average intermediate player who think they've gotten a grasp of the game at 200 hours

[modern coral]

He gives takes, so that can make him disagreeable, but that's just having opinions.

[mellow hedge]

cant make content like that without having an opinion lmao

how tf else are you meant to make guides

i for one think his guides are pretty solid

[sharp owl]

OH there's Frosty. What's up

I heard about you

Good things

[burnt flume]

but I am really wondering how they'll be getting through every level without some heavy hitters

[modern coral]

^

[mellow hedge]

Lesgo

[little ridge]

I mean some guys from beta testing?

[mellow hedge]

I dont think they can

[little ridge]

Didnt Cho betatest some levels?

Surely I think he plays fine enough

[mystic moss]

truee the bug hunters exist

[modern coral]

I assume they have some more experienced players on staff, is the thing, so I assume they'll just rotate people for harder content.

[burnt flume]

like nobody in the creator program is a bad player afaik but idk if any combination of them can carry an r8e2 with 2 devs

hopefully yea

idk how it'd work otherwise

[sharp owl]

I found bugs after playing for a week

LOL

[junior latch]

it would depend on which devs

some are actually solid at the game

like better than decent puns

i have no clue who will play or what will happen tho (just saying)

[mellow hedge]

I mean ive carried pubs with hange using random loadouts

its doable

[burnt flume]

I can imagine it, but I don't have enough experience spectating the devs to know how good everyone is

[junior latch]

Alex is pretty decent

Speedrun c tier level mission 1st try pulling their weight decent at minimum

and others i know are good too

But god i suck at names lol

id honestly be interested on the skill level of the creator program members overall

i dont know all of them, but i unironically think it peaks around nymn/scaler/ari?

(I honestly dont know whos all in there)

[modern coral]

I just don't know if that's going to transfer to E-tiers well.

I could believe most C and D-tiers are likely to go smoothly.

[pseudo sedge]

honestly if 2 people play well enough and the other 2 just carry their own weight they can finish all e levels. Whether or not they do it in time is the real question

[modern coral]

Duo carry does go hard.

[pseudo sedge]

and it is definitely possible imo

[junior latch]

btw was it 100% runs or any%?

[hollow quarry]

More info will follow

[junior latch]

I just hope ill have internet on my flight lol

Wanna watch

[pastel dagger]

so hel shotgun

is pretty fucking good

its just matchmaking makes it harder i guess

[fossil horizon]

Damn info only later so need to start planning later, looking forward for more info 💋

[unreal crystal]

LOL

that'd be kinda funny

i rlly gotta hit the pubs again

[slim rose]

[vestal crystal]

Nice

[sharp owl]

beastage

[lost lynx]

who are you

[mellow hedge]

not 100%

probably do some tho

maybe

[alpine scaffold]

All achievements %

[mystic moss]

some tips on the game you guys should know

7 Important Considerations

1. If you wish your best chances of success. HOST THE LOBBY. Learn fast how to do that properly on Discord. Just like with the cryptocurrency saying (not your wallet not your funds) IF ANYONE else is hosting the server, YOU are at their mercy if they should decide to quit AND THIS could destroy the checkpoint system that makes these levels much more do-able lately. Took me 5 days to beat C2 (extreme) with a team (chewed up 30 of em and spit em out) with zero checkpoints that most likely would of been doubled.

2. When you have your team in the lobby, make sure that everyone is acceptable to you...someone MAY be in party mode and have had a few too many drinks, etc. Someone may be missing their mic, just make sure your team has at least 3 of em, a good player without a mic CAN still be an asset. Yet you should surely check on the communications aspect as your first metric of how well you are about to do.

3. Right after this is make sure that your team is PROPERLY loaded out for the mission. If you have something like dual BioScanners you are going to be shredded by most enemies. I will leave load-outs to you...yet KNOW that DPS is king/queen. So generally ONLY something that enhances DPS like say the foam/mine combo should be considered. If you KNOW the level well already ALWAYS throw away the bio-scanner and go for MORE DPS...DPS IS ALWAYS PRIME IN PVX!

4. Once you get in the missions STICK WITH YOUR TEAM...learn how to use the UI to follow them even with your flashlight off. If you need to change OPAQUENESS options in the setting to assist on this, feel free. AT MOST you should generally be running around possibly infested areas in teams of two at least in case something pops up...only in areas you know are clean should you all break up to search...when the action is heavy you best be all GANKING targets like proper pros...all aiming at the same target for quick take-downs. Your target(s) are either the closest OR most dangerous...that is the simple method of co-ordination.

5. Associated with this above aspect is setting up for choke-points/blood-doors etc. When you do this you are engaging the pure strategy aspect of the title. This requires experience and knowledge of the game, and strategy in general. YOU may discuss this with your team, OR leave it in the hands of your most competent commander. Yet this part is crucial for defeating certain levels, and of coarse as you fail time after time you WILL IMPROVE at how to stage this. Generally speaking mines are the best for this, enhanced with a grenade or launcher foamed door and you pretty much have your most deadly weapon in game. A HIGH DPS team would be dual mines and dual turrets. The couple foam grenades you find will be like GOLD for such a load-out also. Experiment until you find your best damaging team!

[rose nova]

what's this

[mystic moss]

tips on being a better gtfo player

i'm on my teaching arc

[blissful dome]

absolute stalker behavior

[blissful dome]

what is this

[sharp owl]

definitely copypasted from steam guides

[blissful dome]

^^^

unbelievable

smh

my head

[mellow hedge]

Thanks for the advice!!!!!! Ill be sure to play 4 shotgun sentries from now on in all my levels!!!!!

[mystic moss]

remember dps is king!

[mellow hedge]

I always knew biotracker was for the beginners

I mean, im no beginner, i've beaten r2d2

[mystic moss]

mb queen, keep slaying

[mellow hedge]

All good original gangster

[blissful dome]

^^^^

no actually

4 mines

best dpm

your dpm will spike when all 50 mines detonate

[pine root]

How can I optimize my dps

[mystic moss]

run hel shotty / scatter

[pine root]

This is a good idea

[mystic moss]

knife also slashes really fast so it's optimal dps

[pine root]

ooo

Good idea

[mystic moss]

don't run bio cause it's a net loss on dps

ideally you need to maximize your dps on the harder level

SO just to re-iterate for most games, DPS IS PRIME. Most gamers are very inexperienced. Even someone with 2000K+ hours in one particular game I have found miss the basics of this on average with ease. What you will OFTEN find some people doing even who have a fair amount of experience is FFA-ing on teams. This is one of the most common game terms out there, so I will leave its meaning for you to know/discover. When teams FFA like newbs instead of doing the basics of teamplay, what happens is DPS is pure crippled. In fact it is even MORE than just the DPS itself which is missing. It is the Coordinated DPS that is key (cooperation).

Let me try and explain it a bit more simple so everyone can understand hopefully. Say you get a bunch of farmers together to FARM a mission/map. So you have your team of 4 or 5 or whatever and you are going to do the basic ganking a mob type dealio. DO you believe that as you lure one member out of that mob that you are going to kill it faster just hitting it one at a time, or all at once? Of coarse you know the MOST damage is going to be done while ALL team members concentrate on that mobs member.

[mellow hedge]

Is it okay if I modified my guns to all have thermal, 6 pen, 100 damage and no recoil?

[blissful dome]

yes

ofc

[pine root]

Pen caps in the game at 5

[mellow hedge]

🤓

[limber kestrel]

guys what's the meaning of any% runs?

[gusty burrow]

Beat the level as fast as possible (typically by skipping optional objectives)

Generally used in opposition to 100% (beating all optional objectives)

[limber kestrel]

thx!!

[lucid relic]

Anyone down to GTFO?

😈

[tough hedge]

オホホ～

[little ridge]

What happened to the steam "gtfo guide" with classes and stuff like that lel

[fossil trench]

anyone down to play some rounds with a newbie?

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you havent be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[junior latch]

Wdym?

[rose nova]

#community-news message this?

it doesn't let me in but maybe cause i'm on phone

idk if it that tho

[little ridge]

yeah what slendo posted

I think it got cancelled

it was the "endorsed by devs" guide with some wrong stuff and an hilarious "classes" section

"THE JOKER: HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD" or something like that

[frigid socket]

#game-announcements message
83 expeditions? I counted and there are 77, howcome am I missing 6 expeditions?

[little ridge]

R8 has ||a second half||

[wispy bluff]

Its a unique gimmick of Rundown 8 - you will unlock additional expeditions as you progress

[frigid socket]

WOOOW aweeeeeeesome!

[rose nova]

THE JOKER, THE SOCIETY
this player chooses short rifle

[latent palm]

Have fun lol

[daring swallow]

ищу тиму новичок

[junior latch]

maybe the guy deleted it
who knows tbh

The role part was .. interesting. But the hate was (as is common) overblown

[rose nova]

sad
it wasnt that bad i remember it was decent it just had some issues

mostly on weaponry

[little ridge]

I'd say a good part of it was because of the actual endorsement rather than the guide having some questionable takes and outright wrong ones

To be honest, I've never checked gtfo steam guides but perhaps there were better ones? Heck I remember one having maps with outlines for sectors and notes to every sec door which told the alarm class, what spawned and other details

That'd probably been more useful even if, of course, spoilerish

[rose nova]

the maps on steam are a godsend

[pastel dagger]

the best steam guides are with rundown maps where thumbnail is a smiley face made of map dividers

[rose nova]

they write EVERYTHING

idk who that user is but it's probs one of the most helpful people i've seen

they write events, alarm on doors, checkpoints
they basically a wiki page

but more detailed

[fossil horizon]

The "rundown ### alt + Ea versions" ones? From Hunter? Russian community got your back

[rose nova]

god maps

[fossil horizon]

Yeah also achievement guide is from same people, the one with wolf doctor picture

[fossil horizon]

Also red terminals on maps are the ones that contain logs

[lofty bough]

есть русичи погамать?:

[robust dawn]

like never

maybe in the eastern server

[fossil horizon]

#hc-europe message

[pseudo sedge]

<@&408548765599793173> can anyone check mod mail pls? quite important i'd say

[lilac jewel]

So does anyone know the completion rates for rundown 8 I'm just genuinely curious

[lost lynx]

0.1 of players have completed R8

[rose nova]

so real

[rose nova]

only 10c has numbers on that, they the ones who shared them

[lost lynx]

tbh it might be less than 0.1%

but thats just the minimun steam can show

[burnt flume]

Well that's for anyone who's ever played the game and not people who have attempted r8 levels

[lost lynx]

yeah its definitely way less then

[burnt flume]

So it's not exactly a great statistic

[rose nova]

i thought they did completion %s

not just all players

thats why on a tiers u could see 20 30% players doin em

[burnt flume]

This is true for 10cc's internal statistics

but not for steam achievements

which pablex was talking about

[rose nova]

a

[lost lynx]

b

cant we like

ask 10cc's for the R8 statistics?

[rose nova]

ask calle idk

why not

[lost lynx]

@hollow quarry

[alpine scaffold]

I did R4C2

Cool level

[lost lynx]

R4C3 PE when

[alpine scaffold]

I can't

:(

[lost lynx]

why

[pine root]

Stop

And think

Was the pe really that cool?

[alpine scaffold]

yes

We like doing stealth

[quartz cape]

pabulum

[pine root]

Ahhhh

[rose nova]

sec and ov is real fun i like it

[lost lynx]

hey Jish

[rose nova]

it a funk objective

[lost lynx]

your fav sticker

[pine root]

don’t worry

Your blocked

[lost lynx]

😔

[pine root]

I don’t have to look at it anymore

[lost lynx]

you will
in your dreams

[pine root]

I fucking saw loss

In my fucking math class the other day

[rose nova]

me when i
I Il
lI I_

[quartz cape]

hey prof, this linear algebra is boring, can we learn how to calculate damage falloff in gtfo instead

[lost lynx]

more range = less damage

there you go

[quartz cape]

that bit was rhetorical please do not respond

[lost lynx]

.

[quartz cape]

.

[lost lynx]

.

[quartz cape]

keep yourself safe

[lost lynx]

yeah man

thanks

[pine root]

Sorry this comedy black hole never lets a bit die

[hollow quarry]

Stats broke some time back, so we can’t really publish them

[wild thunder]

Broke how ?

[hollow quarry]

As in not giving us the right numbers, which mean we can’t really trust them to be comparable to previous stats

[wild thunder]

I see

[high orchid]

damn

[robust dawn]

womp womp

[latent palm]

Man how can we count tank kills on E2 now

Save us calle

[lone iris]

does someone kill Pablo ?

[crude bay]

😇

[near stag]

That one Guy who Hammer kited him untill the Heat death of the universe. Props to te Champ ✊

[robust dawn]

hel smg where

[near stag]

Hel sentry If you Could shoot it while Holding

[robust dawn]

yea but trade in the stagger for damage

[pure dew]

Isn't that basically the hel machine pistol

[robust dawn]

sub machine gun

[pure dew]

Yes, isn't a machine pistol basically a smg

[robust dawn]

?

[lone iris]

BRUHHHH 2 HOURS CANNOT EVEN HOST A GAME

DESYNC LIKE HELL

[near stag]

Hel Pistol is a pistol

Smg Uses Pistol ammo, but they are not pistols themselves

[pure dew]

No I know that, but for the game isn't the hel machine pistol basically a smg.

Unless I'm just dumb and the use case for the smg and normal machine pistol are very different

[rose nova]

smg is all rounder with shortish range but works well for everything
machinepistol is an extremely aggressive weapon that asks u to be in the face of an enemy and unload bullets into it, giving in exchange range and recoil control for extremely high dps and fire rate

[pure dew]

Gotcha. I've not used them that much so I thought it had a lot of overlap

How would a hel smg work then? More pen and range but less stagger than hel pistol?

[rose nova]

idk, i imagine lot more reload time, less firerate, less mag

its hard to not make it broken

[near stag]

I dont think it should stagger

[junior latch]

Honestly hel smg wouldnt be broken

definetly better than other full autos its around rn

but its still smg

and not hel revo etc

[rose nova]

but i imagine like a chokepoint holder

that if u get a hallway a hel auto would shred

[junior latch]

hel revo

hel shotgun

[rose nova]

like hel shottie but at range

[junior latch]

like hel shotty at range
But with 1/3rd the dmg

[pure dew]

Aren't all the hel weapons basically the "hold the line" lineup of weapons?

Less outright damage but pen and stagger to help cc, etc.

[rose nova]

no not necessarily
hel gun one shots smalls with a headshot, hel rifle one shots every small in the body

hel shotgun one shots with a headshot at point blank tho usually u use it so it twoshots or threeshot

[blissful dome]

Eh

Only the helpp

[blissful dome]

As host not so much oneshotting

[rose nova]

it does too

it's hard but i've gotten it

[blissful dome]

Not as much

[rose nova]

ah yeah

[blissful dome]

"as much"

Slendi reading comprehension

Sorry

[rose nova]

:3 i read with my ears

[blissful dome]

So real

I would too

[rose nova]

do then

[blissful dome]

Absolutely

[pure dew]

Yeah, but the equivalent to those weapons that aren't hel do more damage but no pen. Sniper deals more damage than hel rifle, and the combat shotty deals more damage than hel shotty.

Idk what the equivalent of hel gun would be. Pr?

Hel revolver deals less damage than revolver but has pen and stagger

[sharp owl]

Any tips for sacrifice? I believe its R2B1

[pure dew]

Damn my connection really is bad atm. That took a whole 6 minutes to send

[rose nova]

sniper isnt the dmg equivalent of hel rifle, those are very different uses for them

[burnt flume]

burst sentries, loot the zones you go through, travel around the room with the scan unless it's dangerous

[rose nova]

and tbh same goes for revo and hel revo tbh one is extremely fast smol taker

and the other is a general use weapon

[burnt flume]

it's a fairly simple level so its more skill gap than strategy tbh

[sharp owl]

K

[rose nova]

if u struggle too much with ammo u can try going insie the zone with the class III alarm, its a resource zone full to the brim of ammo tool n health too

[sharp owl]

Im playing thru with friends who just got the game so ive been helping them thru the rundowns. We finished R1 last night

[sharp owl]

🫡

[rose nova]

noice :]

but yeh its just a lot of combat, basically ur test to see if ur good shootin or not
it took me a couple attempts too

and for general purpose, if u see a zone ur unsure to go check or not u can always list it

LIST ZONE_XX, and itll tell u everything on it

so u can decide then if its worth it or not

[sharp owl]

Lol ok. We made it to the door we needed, i think it was a class VII alarm. Didnt make it past that sadly. They were shocked by the turn of events 😂

[rose nova]

class VII yeh, very long alarm

[sharp owl]

Its been a while since ive done sacrifice tbh. I think ive done up to R6 🤔 i redownloaded the game cuz friends got it

[rose nova]

as a newie i just tried doin em in order until i got stuck lol

[sharp owl]

Lol

I did em pretty much in order as well

[junior latch]

Hel rifle = high cal
Hel shotgun = nothing rly. Combat shotty is a special so bad comp. But no main is similar. It has insane dmg and good ammo anyway even without pen
Hel revo = dmr
Hel gun = revolver (but actually has more dmg)
Hel pp isnt rly a common pen gun. Its low dmg isnt a trade off for pen, its a trade off for its insane stagger. Pen got added as a buff later

[glacial anvil]

Hi

[rose nova]

hiiii

[glacial shard]

Hey so I am in a pickle

I usually like the clean clothes mod but it hasnt been updated in 2 years. Does it work on the new cosmetics?

[latent palm]

Speedrun

@mellow hedge

thats ur cue

[mellow hedge]

i saw dog

[latent palm]

dawg idc

[hollow quarry]

[latent palm]

u in or out?

[hidden flame]

speedrunning, ew

[robust dawn]

stockholm 😔

[glacial shard]

Some help on this?

[robust dawn]

have you tried trying to see if itw orks

[rose nova]

u probs would have better luck askin on the modding server

#hc-modded

[hollow quarry]

Was snowing last Friday... 15c now....

[rose nova]

omg 15c?? dens of wolves

[vernal nebula]

Damn, should've been R5C1 😏

[pure dew]

Gotcha gotcha

Out of curiosity, for the stagger would hell pp be better than hel shotty, or is hel shotty still just one of the best regardless

[robust dawn]

is r6c1 like the longerst level in the game or something

[rose nova]

no

[wicked solstice]

no

[glacial anvil]

Hru

[wicked solstice]

it's a very good level :3

[glacial anvil]

No

[wicked solstice]

i love R6C1

[glacial anvil]

However

It is an awesome level

[wicked solstice]

alt a little lesss

but it's still fun

[glacial anvil]

I almost finished R8D2 the other day

[robust dawn]

whyd they choose r6c1

[rose nova]

if u just want stagger helpiss its ur go to, hel shottie its more of a killing enemy gun with stagger on top, and it can take a bit of time on reloads and its just better to use on big crowds

[glacial anvil]

We died at extract

:(

Ran out of ammo and tool

I dislike this level immensely

[rose nova]

:[

but it cool

[glacial anvil]

Well it’s cool

||the giant mom is so big|| spoilers

[rose nova]

yes :3

its cool

[glacial anvil]

Why does it

[hollow quarry]

We wanted to have a C tier to have as many as possible to be part of it, while still posing a challenge

[glacial anvil]

Why so big

It’s gigantic

[rose nova]

why not

:3

[glacial anvil]

Shoots and has tongue

[rose nova]

yeh :3

[wicked solstice]

good level

[glacial anvil]

I died to its long ass tongue

[rose nova]

lol

[burnt flume]

waiting for the day of the r4e1 speerunning competition

[glacial anvil]

I waiting for the day of

All my rundowns complete

[green flume]

why is the eligibility of the comp specifically stated that North Korea cannot participate

[grizzled sparrow]

I like that this game, being so fun and hard as it is. Is getting the attention it deserve through the stream-marathon of 96 hours. I'm sure to watch it.

[rose nova]

not only that country but others that have issues with the vissa or just other regulation issues

[rose nova]

its such a cool game i love it to death

[grizzled sparrow]

I love it to death as well and death is always sure to come ;3

[wary chasm]

breaking news: north korean successfully defects north korea through game competition

[green flume]

its just funny that its in the paper mentioning a country with 0 chance of player

[rose nova]

for sures >:3

[junior latch]

Hel pp stagger is insane

[hollow quarry]

That's how legal papers work 🙂

[past wave]

what is this weeks r8a2 password?

[rose nova]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/r8a2/ !

it HPZZW-AUTXI

[past wave]

oh]

thanks!

[stone marten]

Speculation on type of speed run for the marathon? I know its probably going to be any% but that would miss out on so many iconic infamous PEs

[hollow quarry]

The information is in #game-announcements

[stone marten]

Ah I missed that thank you

[hollow quarry]

NP

[lone iris]

R7C3

[hidden path]

Full accommodation? You heard em gamers, slumber party at 10 chambers office

[latent palm]

i remember you

[glacial shard]

Hi

[lone iris]

bro ur everywhere wtf

[hollow quarry]

I think it's illegal to sleep in an office. So we will sort hotels 🙂

[latent palm]

the team killing at extract never felt so empty without u

[latent palm]

nah wed win

[mystic moss]

wtf kaiser resurrected luna

[latent palm]

what can i say

but hey since your here luna

welcome back

[glacial shard]

Thanks

[hidden path]

We convert the office into a hotel. Modern problems require modern solutions

[modern coral]

If Luna came back, it's possible that Sleepy will come back too.

[latent palm]

dont jinx it

anyone but him

[glacial shard]

I got 2 cats since I last played this game

[latent palm]

@hollow quarry can we get stats on this specific speedrun level ?

like howmany flyers killed

[latent palm]

thats nice

[glacial shard]

Oh hold on. Got it messed up

I last played here 6 months ago. Got the cats 12 months ago

[hollow quarry]

Haha, don't think so

[glacial shard]

Thought it was longer

[latent palm]

AWWWWW

now how can i flex flyer kill count to @blissful dome cause they suck at it

[latent palm]

wait its been 6 months already?

[glacial shard]

So my pc is out of order

Yeah

[glacial shard]

Will get back in action on thursday

[latent palm]

shoukd have came back sooner

[glacial shard]

Huh?

[latent palm]

you do know what were all gonna do right?

[glacial shard]

Taco Thursday?!

[latent palm]

close

[glacial shard]

What then?

[latent palm]

youll find out....

[glacial shard]

Dont send me to R8

[latent palm]

no

thats bad

[glacial shard]

I forgot how to play

Dont send me to brasil

[earnest forge]

R8 is fun.

[rose nova]

r8 my beloved

[latent palm]

Real Ch0 moment

[glacial shard]

When my pc no longer has a boo boo will have to start back to R1

[pure dew]

Would a fun cc with two people be hel shotty combat shotty and hel pp and scatter?

With turrets and scanner

[junior latch]

[latent palm]

eva is gooning

[junior latch]

hey im getting like 200 messages

im allowed to

[shut vapor]

What FOV do the devs play on

[mellow hedge]

50 max

[shut vapor]

I want the most authentic experience

hmmm I'm not far off then

[junior latch]

55min max

[quasi pine]

This is NOT football..

[pure dew]

Fair

[shut vapor]

ez

[coral trellis]

I have a question, is it normal to be struggling a lot in this game? Even if it’s only on the R1 levels because I’m almost done with them but I’m stuck on some of the levels and it’s honestly very frustrating lol super fun game tho

[shut vapor]

you playing alone?

[coral trellis]

No I play with two of my friends

They’re definitely goofballs tho

Which might explain some difficulty we have lol

[shut vapor]

Then yes its normal to struggle. Players take a lot of damage, and there are a fair amount of enemies.

Once you start getting comfortable with stealth killing sleepers, and get used to the idea that you may need to fall back mid combat to live as well as strategic tool usage then you'll find the game becomes a lot more accessible

It's mostly strategy

[coral trellis]

That makes sense

Thanks man

That really helps knowing that the struggle is normal

[shut vapor]

There is one strategy that should always be considered. It's basically the foundation of every combat strategy

[coral trellis]

What is it?

[shut vapor]

it's in media

[junior latch]

Even people who play without derping struggle while getting better

[shut vapor]

I pinged you

[coral trellis]

Kk

[junior latch]

NOOO

@shut vapor no

Bad

@coral trellis its a meme (its an exploit)

anyway if you wanna get better theres always guides

But the game is meant to feel tough

[shut vapor]

Logs are an exploit

[proven garden]

any tips for r5b1? we are trying duo prisoner efficiency

[shut vapor]

If you consider mines killing enemies bunched up on doors an exploit then you are broken :(

[wicked solstice]

oof

[junior latch]

Get a video running while you do secondary

[coral trellis]

Omg

[wicked solstice]

that's a rough one

[coral trellis]

I’ve been sleeping on mines this whole time

[junior latch]

Ooooh i thoughr you were gonna talk about door bug

Im actually so sry

[shut vapor]

What do you take me for????

Cringe?????

[coral trellis]

We usually just foam the doors

And then put turrets down

[shut vapor]

Foam is good, lets more enemies stack up for when mine go boom

[junior latch]

I know your fov

So yes

[coral trellis]

Mann

[shut vapor]

Your mother

[junior latch]

mine on foamed door -> brr

[coral trellis]

Yup

Lol

Man I’m gonna play this weekend and we boutta cook with grease

[proven garden]

isnt placing turrets inside but also foaming the door kinda pointless

unless its a surge alarm or smth

[burnt flume]

for reactor hold you'll lose considerably less HP if you stand further back and give yourself longer sightlines to work with

which i found out the hard way, still won though (og r5b1 pe duo)

[shut vapor]

If you don't have mines, it's arguably better not to cfoam the door at all

[junior latch]

inside? Imean its a defense once door break

Outside? Waste of tool for sentries

[junior latch]

You could still permafoam some alarms tbf

[shut vapor]

unless it's a class 12

[junior latch]

just gonna suck dealing with spawn cap for 1 instance

[shut vapor]

If its a short alarm, I'd take a wave cap, but for longer alarms where I don't have mines for whatever reason I'd keep the door open and let them trickle in

[proven garden]

wouldnt for longer alarms be better since you'd keep spawn cap going longer

[shut vapor]

Personal preference imo. There's very few cases where you wouldn't take mines to begin with

[slate olive]

depends on intensity

[shut vapor]

in which case permafoam all the way

[slate olive]

most alarms not worth wasting all your seafoam on

[junior latch]

tbh theres no level where you rly definetly skip mines but take foam

[shut vapor]

R8E1

[wraith marsh]

r7e1 is the main one

[junior latch]

you skip mines on that o.O?

[wraith marsh]

no lol

[junior latch]

true, the funny s scan

r8e1 id rather skip foam than mines

[shut vapor]

I see no reason to take mines on r8e1 tbh

[visual lily]

anyone speedrunning R6C1 ?

[junior latch]

mines n 2 sentries (bio obviously) was speed loadout

[shut vapor]

Fuck it, 4 bio

everyone can see where the enemies are

[pine root]

A few teams are already

[junior latch]

i wanna watch so bad QQ

well i will watch all the runs anyway lol

[pine root]

Bread wants to come back

I might run with him and get him the spot

[junior latch]

i let him know ye

if ya guys run let me know

im down to push bread to sweden

[pine root]

Btw the double hit bounty for the 96 hour stream is on ngl

[junior latch]

double hit?

[pine root]

If you hit two enemies at once with hammer

[junior latch]

[soft wave]

how bigs the bounty

[pine root]

Depends on the enemies

[junior latch]

but ye jish
lemme know for bread runs

good ol times

[humble finch]

New enemy leak???

Perhaps

[burnt flume]

i need the gossip

[wraith marsh]

we will beat r5e1 faster than r6c1 is beaten

trust

[pine root]

I think r6c1 is beatable

But it just sucks

[burnt flume]

i do wonder what the fastest submitted time will be

not as fast as it could be no doubt, wonder if any runs will get close to WR

or if there's not teams stacked enough or enough time to grind for that

[earnest forge]

WR is what, 17' ?

With no hard race going about it

We might see it beaten

[burnt flume]

17:13 I think

maybe, but it does also depend on the teams and the runs and the routing

[earnest forge]

Yup

[burnt flume]

like I watched the wr earlier and I feel there's definite potential for a fair amount of time save

[earnest forge]

I just watched it as well

There is indeed room for improvement, but we will see what comes of it

[junior latch]

prob beat it if anyone decent grinds due to stam changes and the run only being "good"

[pine root]

It will be beaten

[junior latch]

the stam changes with R8 give you ~10 seconds of time save

[burnt flume]

bearing in mind that I have no idea who has a team at all at this point

[junior latch]

unless you have awful stam control (with enemies left alive)

[burnt flume]

so I cannot make any comment on how things will go wrt teams being skilled

[soft wave]

anyone wanna join my team

[pine root]

Finishing c1 fast

[earnest forge]

We did have a few stuck enemies during testing, so some are bound to still exist in current builds

[junior latch]

also it helps that we ran it for a few hours vs the week if people wanna grind

im rooting for a new WR tbh

[pine root]

Doesn’t mean anything besides you can play a fast

[pine root]

Same

[junior latch]

stuck enemies are rare tbh

[pine root]

Sum of best goes down

[broken citrus]

If only I didn’t have finals I could’ve been number 1 speed run team with only me myself and I

And played during the charity stream and allat

[burnt flume]

unfortunately unless you can multibox 4 pcs at once you are doomed

for the rules specify it needs to be a 4 player team

[broken citrus]

Typical Tuesday for me 🥱

[proven garden]

fuck reactors

all my homies hate reactors

i love stealth gameplay why you give me underpressure resource management

[wraith marsh]

Shooting fun

[burnt flume]

this game is not a stealth game

[wraith marsh]

Lines 🤤

[little ridge]

I'd say it wanted to kinda be one a bit long time ago

[wraith marsh]

It's always been half and half

[earnest forge]

I think that even in the very early sneak peek we had, the game disolved into action soon enough

[little ridge]

Let me rephrase

[earnest forge]

That old "10 minutes of gameplay"

[little ridge]

It kinda wanted stealth to be big/main portion of its gameplay back at beta/alpha at least

Like, you weren't (and to an extent still arent) supposed to wake rooms up

Now noone cares

By design? Perhaps not originally

[earnest forge]

It was indeed advertised as such, and the gameplay was promoted by Markiplier and the like

And to be fair, it might have caught the interest of quite a few early adopters

Nowadays, we get things done, one way or another :)

[unique comet]

after 1k hours I still prefer stealth and immersion

[earnest forge]

To each their own, and that is why the game even though it was quite niche, was quite enjoyable. In the end, you get to play it your way.

[unique comet]

not sure about "my way" with some people

[alpine scaffold]

Me when error alarm

[last quartz]

Whats some good special weapons to pair up with the Hel Revolver?

[unreal crystal]

You gotta relax

[rose nova]

kinda everything since hel revo is just so flexible
only really wouldnt pair with sniper but i also just wouldnt recommend sniper in the first place so

[analog flicker]

It's just because of how bad sniper got nerfed.

Very few people even take it anymore.

[junior latch]

i feel like that is only partially true

id very much expect it to be a top 3 pick still

beginners and co go brr

[wraith marsh]

Lines are rigid not relaxed, I must become one with the line

[mild bear]

Glad to hear many of you are excited about the Streamathon and Speedrun Contest!

[modern coral]

HEL Gun obv.

Just play meta.

[wraith marsh]

Live by the weapon tier list

[burnt flume]

less excited about the contest, more excited about bullying calle with questions

[earnest forge]

To be fair you raised a couple of interesting ones :)

My favorite was probably the one regarding sleeping arrangements

[sharp siren]

Is den of wolves in unity engine?

[burnt flume]

i try my best

[junior latch]

pachi shouldve asked the real questions

of how you can make the devs skip a level (R4C2) for an ad break

[burnt flume]

well I was about to go and ask whether someone knows the exact stipulation of why people from HK are banned from participation for a certain someone

[earnest forge]

That would be a fairly long add break

[alpine scaffold]

playing it rn

[junior latch]

not my issue

[burnt flume]

but I'm assuming it's due to competition rules in that country because they found that you can stay up to 90 days without a visa

[junior latch]

probably the same as any other countries there

also if you are asking for a certain someone

theres speedrun.com anyway

lol

[burnt flume]

yeeeeep

[junior latch]

still waiting on whether goat participates

they could make a good team with cheese, bread and cho(colate)

[hidden flame]

goat is not going to sweden, and goat is not food

goodbye

[abstract marsh]

I wonder how many people will try their hand at this contest.

[burnt flume]

probably a fair few, but I've no idea really

but then there's also I have a very skewed perspective from speedrunning harder stuff

[abstract marsh]

I've never tried speedrunning, but I might give it a whirl. Just need a team....

[junior latch]

ask some peeps

ask some friends

upload a run

have some fun

honestly i shouldnt tell people to join its more work for me to verify

[abstract marsh]

I just watched your run on R6C1, you think that time is beatable?

[soft wave]

yes

[junior latch]

oh yea it is definetly
some game mechanic changes for stamina make it even easier to beat, but the time wasnt optimized

even back then we talked about sub 17 being definetly a thing on a great run no issues

[burnt flume]

yeah when I watched the run I saw several things that could've been faster

[junior latch]

it sadly was during the end of the grinding stage for speeds

[abstract marsh]

I'm assuming you're team is gonna try it again then EVA?

your*

[junior latch]

i might 4fun, but im pretty busy and i am not able to claim the winning prize either way

10 hours of internship per day go brrr

[abstract marsh]

Not eligible because of the internship?

[junior latch]

nah, im flying to canada on the 11th

[abstract marsh]

oh right XD

[junior latch]

i dont have time

[burnt flume]

aaaand then also it's harder to grind speedruns when you can't play

[junior latch]

just gotta resummon kenny, kolohe and wes

grind a week, get the dub
nobody goes cuz everyones busy and 2nd place takes it

jokes aside

[burnt flume]

I have exams, people I would run with have exams/are busy/don't want to run, I don't even want the prize

[junior latch]

times very beatable

[burnt flume]

oh definitely

[junior latch]

its just a "good" time. Not great or optimized

[burnt flume]

but you don't even need to beat the 17:13 to begin with

[junior latch]

times become progressively less optimized after R4

[junior latch]

ye
i hope it happens tho

[burnt flume]

you just need to be faster than the other players who've submitted runs

[junior latch]

and should honestly

[burnt flume]

also there might be an angle to be said here

about 10 chamber always stealing things from modss

[abstract marsh]

Why do you not want the prize, out of curiousity @burnt flume?

[burnt flume]

bug fixes, speedrun tournaments, etc etc

[burnt flume]

don't know if i can be bothered buying a passport, don't want to be on camera or really even play in the streamathon

like yeah sure maybe it'd be fun but i'd have a better time being at home being able to sort other things out

cool holiday idea though

[earnest forge]

It is a one-time thing. Some people will find it appealing, some will not

[junior latch]

actually ch0 👀 when am i gonna see your time on speedrun.com

also

i HOPE

people

fucking

booster scroll (or start video with host being last one to rdy up)

i will scream

otherwise

[earnest forge]

In the end, we will likely enjoy the event

[junior latch]

also boosters are finally completely disallowed from speeds

not even in lawless anymore

less clutter less rng

[burnt flume]

ay nice, boosters bad

[indigo jolt]

Also less grinding for good boosters

[earnest forge]

I can hardly see the point of using boosters in any baseline competition in the game

They were never factored in any of the balancing process

[junior latch]

we had them in for potential max speed

but there were like 2 people who ran seriously and used boosters

void and me

LOL

(there were like 5-10 runs or smth with people accidentally using them or on mid runs)

[zinc halo]

What costs are covered if I win?

Travel and hotel costs are covered, other expenses are on you.
So McDonalds, Party, Alcohol and release on bail is not on them ? It's a shame 👀

[steep edge]

Man a trip to Sweden would be awesome but I’m sure I’m worse at the game than the devs are lol

[mellow hedge]

Try it out anyway!

It’s good to have more people participating in stuff like this

It also makes it a lot more fun

[junior latch]

even just for the fun of it

maybe you realize you rly enjoy speeding or simply playing fast

maybe you just wanna see calles beard natural

[mellow hedge]

I wanna see it in person

I wanna shake his hand

[junior latch]

Will say

calles a cool guy

great beard

and fun to talk to

passion for gtfo is def there

also did i say great beard?

[mellow hedge]

i dont think you mentioned his beard

[pine root]

the event and are willing to join the streaming
session at 10 Chambers offices for an estimated 4 hours each day.

is this enough speed runner moments to save the time needed

[pine root]

@hollow quarry is canada allowed but quebec not

i dont understand ngl

[gusty burrow]

The list has bunch of countries, Quebec, Canada, bunch of countries

[pine root]

are both not allowed

WHY is Quebec

[old belfry]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Act

Quebec has constitutional rights that give it some powers that are normally federal

Which means stuff like international events would need to go through a seperate legal process sometimes

[pine root]

SO

we really hate the french that much

[old belfry]

:(

Anyways, my friends and I are new to the game and are struggling with R1C1... Any tips?

[pine root]

what you seem to be struggling with

[old belfry]

The waves of enemies during the reactor startup

[pine root]

where are you holding

[alpine scaffold]

why when i used the ammopack, my precision rifle with 76% got to 80% only?

[old belfry]

We get overwhelmed during the 5th wave typically

[pine root]

not reloaded

[alpine scaffold]

oh

is this a thing?

[pine root]

yeah

have to reload before you get ammo

[alpine scaffold]

:(

[pine root]

umm do you have like

two or 3 sentries

and a bio

[old belfry]

Yea

[pine root]

nice

are you holding in the room with the cave entrence

like the hole in the wall

[old belfry]

I was thinking we should do that

We have been holding the reactor room

Can we use any terminal to update the security codes?

[pine root]

no

but just run back

[old belfry]

I guess that's not so bad

I'll try using the hole in the wall choke point next time

[idle jolt]

defending at that chokepoint also gives u room to fall back if u need to

just have one person that puts in the codes

everyone else gives out resources/health/etc

[old belfry]

Thanks :)

[somber pecan]

is anyone here gonna participate in that speedrun thing?

[pine root]

there is a bunch of teams going for it you should to

[somber pecan]

yeah i wanted to, i just gotta find some people

[night mulch]

I could try and give it a go

[somber pecan]

i gotta reinstall hmu tomorrow

[night mulch]

what does hmu mean?

[untold cypress]

hit me up

[night mulch]

ok thanks

[untold cypress]

[lost lynx]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[latent palm]

ewww

[vapid wigeon]

haha the reactor level.. cannot be passed with less than 3 people. you need to hoard resources especially closest to the reactor. have multiple sentries set up. and each person has a role / medic / ammo/ sentry ammo. and of course terminal guy.

the trick is with that level to keep them locked in the double tunnel. not to let them out into the big room.

once youve got that sussed the 8 waves are easy

you also need to during the gaps in waves run back to restock from the closest ammo chest

can be done with 3. but its easy with 4

the only gripe ive got with this game.. is that the enemies arent scaled to the amount of players you have. you cannot go out with 1 mate. and complete levels. simply 3-4 person game only.

sniper sentries arent worth spit on that level.. its 3 burst sentries and a shotgun sentry.

placed strategically in the double tunnel to hold all waves

[honest parrot]

You're overthinking it a little too much, there's a lot of hold points on that map that make things a lot easier

[vapid wigeon]

not really.

[honest parrot]

I mean, holding the funnel to the bridge, the forward terminal or even the bridge before that are all viable strategies

[vapid wigeon]

the funnel to the bridge is too high for sentries to be effective.

[honest parrot]

All of it mostly depends on the loadouts and how experienced the team is

[vapid wigeon]

placed back near the entrance of the terminal room

on that last defelade

works perfectly

this team was experienced with single shot headshots

for every target

[honest parrot]

Yes, but if you get overrun then the defence becomes a lot more difficult

[vapid wigeon]

you need to keep the enemies in the scan of the sentries and compliment their fire.

to hold the waves back

you do that. you leave untouched

[junior latch]

Its been solod tho like no bots either

[vapid wigeon]

yeah in someones wet dreams its been solod without hax

[honest parrot]

He's new, he probs don't know everything about the game yet

[vapid wigeon]

simply too many waves and too many enemies

[honest parrot]

It's fine

We all learn

[junior latch]

lol i personally have done it

[vapid wigeon]

lol im not new.

[junior latch]

you just shoot rly well

[vapid wigeon]

lol sure you did

and pigs might fly

[junior latch]

dude theres videos of it on youtube

[vapid wigeon]

sure there is

[junior latch]

Sniper is actually pretty fine (needs bio tho, but thats a no brainer anyway)

Shotgun sentry isnt rly worth it tbh

[vapid wigeon]

xD

shotgun sentry is OP if placed correctly

maybe learn to use it effectively

bio counters snipers value straight up

[junior latch]

https://youtu.be/Er3EtWN_1kA?si=diBvGofnYF69ASMV

litteraly a solo speedrun, no exploits no boosters

[vapid wigeon]

sure

[junior latch]

„Op“ yea no

theres a reason its generally seen as the worst sentry

[junior latch]

What?

[vapid wigeon]

its slow barely lands. etc compared to two bursts. but each unto their own

there is no wrong answer if you can get through it your own way