gtfo-chat

[burnt flume]

or doing funny door stuff to kill 2 scouts

[high orchid]

that's what I use it for, esp w perc on shadow scouts

[burnt flume]

there's hardly ever 2 shadow scouts in the same room nowadays

surprised that you're getting mileage out of that

[high orchid]

I dont, it was mainly r4e1

[quasi pine]

turrets do that all the time and it’s so annoying

it wastes ammo

[vernal nebula]

Precision is awesome for shadow waves if you're defending at R4E1 secondary tbh

[burnt flume]

I used precision rifle a few nights ago and while good I hate using it

[high orchid]

perc is just a shadow counter

[vernal nebula]

Once I learned that hel gun also one-hit kills on headshot I stopped using it

precision -> hel gun I mean

[high orchid]

I like perc, just hate the scope on it using a like triangle as the crosshair

[quasi pine]

is the PDW ever useful

[junior latch]

For thermals yes

[high orchid]

it's alright

[quasi pine]

it just feels so weak

[vernal nebula]

Has decent stagger as well

[pallid anvil]

some missions it's pretty useful

r5d1 it's pretty good

[junior latch]

Its a full aufo

auto

so mid gun

You play it for thermals utility

[quasi pine]

I’m lobotomized and cannot use any loadout other than hel shotgun and scattergun lol

[high orchid]

I somehow always end up towards hel rifle autopistol lol

[quasi pine]

being able to oneshot giants and giant chargers is just too good to pass up imo

though it honestly always baffles me that hybrids have more health than giants

[high orchid]

they are hybrids between shooters and strikers

[wispy bluff]

They are just super shooters with minor melee capability

But their melee is a fucking meme

I haven't had one actually land a punch on me in a long time, and i'm not even trying to dodge

I just stay away with my spear and they can't do anything to me

[high orchid]

🤮 spear

[quasi pine]

they just feel like bullet sponges to even giant killer weapons

[wispy bluff]

Yeah...

[high orchid]

literally with bat I nevwr would get smacked by a hybrid

[wispy bluff]

Single strongest sleepers ignoring bosses

[high orchid]

nah strongest sleeper is BBC

[quasi pine]

depends on the context imo

[high orchid]

nah they can team wipe if you miss a hit on a stealth, and they are a bitch to stealth bc of that stagger

[quasi pine]

I can’t remember ever seeing a sleeping hybrid now that I think about it

[wispy bluff]

They most certainly exists

[high orchid]

you see em sleeping quite a bit

[wispy bluff]

But way later into the game

I'm sure i found some in R3 recently

[high orchid]

chickens are what is the rare sleeper

[true pilot]

you either see no sleepig hyrbids in a level or see a shit ton of them

[true pilot]

R3D1?

[high orchid]

seen one in R1B2 main area once

[junior latch]

R2E1, R3D1, R4C2

[high orchid]

R5C1

[burnt flume]

r4e1 first zone

very easy place to find sleeping hybrids

[vernal nebula]

Not for long usually haha

[hybrid cloak]

i dont remember that 🤷‍♂️

[quasi pine]

I don’t remember seeing a sleeping hybrid in r4c2

[burnt flume]

they're in the north zone locked behind a keycard iirc

[quasi pine]

oh interesting

[latent palm]

Hmmm

Hey @wicked solstice

Can i have a few mins in dms?

[wicked solstice]

uhhh sure

[quasi pine]

explosives placed

[versed crater]

I too want to be Dakstar's valentine

[thick temple]

Fixed bug where Host and Client did different amount of damage to enemies when shooting their tumors. Host now does same damage as Client.
okay so like
am i the only one that checked this and kinda didn't find this to be true?
i can't really check as client, but all i see is that sniper now does way more damage to tumors, but you still can't overdamage tumors as host with scatter as far as i can tell?

[wicked solstice]

they do the same damage now

they just both do way more

sniper 3 shots birthers

[versed crater]

Did scatter get nerfed as client against mother?

[thick temple]

i saw that yeah

[wraith marsh]

it shouldnt affect shotguns

[wicked solstice]

shouldn't have changed for client

host should have a little more dmg

[thick temple]

but if i target single tumors, scatter takes way more

[wicked solstice]

this is basically just a massive sniper buff tho

[versed crater]

Sniper kind of needed a buff though right

[earnest forge]

Definitely. And any attempt at "fixing" the host vs client damage disparity is welcome, even though it still looks like it is imperfect.

[jade dirge]

im just sad sluggo is still sheisse

[versed crater]

Ya not being able to scattergun as well as host is kind of silly design - even though its likely unintentional

[earnest forge]

You made your point a LOT of times already (even though I agree it would deserve a effective range increase).

[jade dirge]

im saying it a lot because its just true

[versed crater]

Does slug have pen? I don't think I've ever seen anyone run it

[earnest forge]

Saying it once would prove the point enough :)

[earnest forge]

It used to at launch, but never was intended

[jade dirge]

no pen, no range, and less damage than most other shotguns

[earnest forge]

Or maybe before launch, my bad

[versed crater]

seems like it could at least have range

[rose nova]

'less dmg'
its like sayin dmr has less dmg than a precision rifle

[wispy bluff]

Unless it specifically says so or is called "HEL" then no.

[junior latch]

Before ye

[rose nova]

sawed off has no range either for that reason

[versed crater]

at some point with no pen it's basically just High Cal

[jade dirge]

yeah but like, sawn off has more damage

[rose nova]

but no range

[junior latch]

imagine my suprise when i realized that cho

[junior latch]

Sawed off has good range tho

for a shotgun

[high orchid]

sawed off is a primary version of the pump

[rose nova]

for a shotgun so not a lot

[jade dirge]

and choke is just the long version of sawn

[rose nova]

cause its a special

[jade dirge]

sawn isnt even a primary pump, its just a better pump

[high orchid]

I disagree

pump is way more forgiving when it comes to missing pellets

[jade dirge]

its got more range, the same damage divided over less pellets, and it reloads in a flash

[rose nova]

its not a better pump cause normal shottie also reloads in a flash now it has more ammo it has about the exact same range tbh

we already talked about this

ur takes are funky

[high orchid]

pump has more ammo than sawed off now??

[jade dirge]

after the patch it has slightly more

but sawn also takes the normally weaker slot of main gun and slots a special weapon in it

[high orchid]

I thought it now had 32 reserve

[rose nova]

not more ammo than sawed off i believe but more

just in general

[jade dirge]

more ammo per refill i think it is

[high orchid]

I was gon say since I knew it got an ammo increase

[jade dirge]

whats a good primary to complement choke shot

[high orchid]

any really

[jade dirge]

something good for wiping hordes and distance, maybe hel iron?

[stark nest]

Anywhere in particular I might want to look for that?

[rose nova]

hel revo u mean

[jade dirge]

nah hel iron

[thick temple]

why are you like this sleepy
why do you only call 10% of things the right name

[jade dirge]

its a big iron that shoots hel, hel iron

just like theres a second revolver, the magnum

[undone ermine]

My guess is that since scatter has multiple bullets, the "remaining" bullets cannot hit the already-destroyed tumor

[thick temple]

so if you see a person on the street
and they clean the streets
and you say "hey street cleaner"
and they say "my name is john"
you're gonna be out here saying "nah you clean the streets, you're street cleaner"

[jade dirge]

thats just wrong
i dont go outside lol

[undone ermine]

as clients you have latency issues so you wait 50ms(ping time) to know the tumors being destroyed

[jade dirge]

on a serious there arent any streets, i live in the middle of nowhere

[thick temple]

dodging the question i see

[rose nova]

hel means Hybrid Electrothermal Light-gas

wdym it shoots hel

[jade dirge]

it shoots hybrid electrothermal light-gas

thats the bullet type it uses, specially chambered to fire

just like you cant fire 357 magnum out of a .44

[thick temple]

yeah, that was my assumption
just, seems to maintain the same disparity that was there before, and just changes how damage works for sniper

[rose nova]

hybrid electrothermal light-gas revolver
it shoots bullets, just extremely fast

[latent palm]

Slendi types:

[rose nova]

'the hybrid electrothermal light-gas gun works on similar principles of the standard light-gas gun, but adds an electric arc to heat the light gas to a higher temperature and pressure than the piston alone.'

[latent palm]

Ifo types :

[undone ermine]

yeah :/

[jade dirge]

nah, the bullets are the hybrid electrothermal light-gas

[latent palm]

@blissful dome

[rose nova]

ok

[jade dirge]

its a revolver that shoots superheated plasma, which is why it penetrates targets

[latent palm]

Dw slendi i still read em

[jade dirge]

its thermally charged light-gas

[latent palm]

Im not bad mouthing u or anything

[undone ermine]

is that how it works lmao

[high orchid]

where does it say that?

[jade dirge]

as far as im concerned

[latent palm]

Not gtfo im afraid lmao

[jade dirge]

its thermally charged light-gas

[latent palm]

Let him cook hatsune

[jade dirge]

its a gas, its light, and its thermally charged, whats heated gas? plasma

its a plasma revolver

[rose nova]

im pretty sure it shoots projectiles based on the wikipedia page, which means normal bullets or special bullets to resist the velocity

but idk anymore

[latent palm]

It uses the light gas chamber to shoot out the projectiles

And where do you think that energy gonna go

[jade dirge]

Still, it's plasma propelling the projectile

[latent palm]

Definitely not at your face ofc

[jade dirge]

Basically a bullet being propelled at mach-jesus

[latent palm]

I have not seen a heated bolt on the wall

[rose nova]

'n this Kinetic Energy Weapon test, a seven-gram Lexan projectile was fired from a light-gas gun at a velocity of 23,000 feet per second (7,000 m/s; 16,000 mph) at a cast aluminum block.'

[blissful dome]

Hm

[rose nova]

so it shot lexan

not plasma

[latent palm]

Haii ifo

[blissful dome]

Heyyyyy

[latent palm]

Im feeling kind today so i wont diss you

[blissful dome]

Nuhuh

[jade dirge]

its a light bullet propelled by heated gas

so its basically just a magnum round taken to the extreme

[vestal dove]

lmao

[latent palm]

My mans gonna make the gun go boom before it shoots anything

Think sleepy think

[jade dirge]

fuck it, make the gun the projectile

[vernal nebula]

The Long Range Flashlight is the only consumable that cannot be consumed

I will boldly go where no prisoner has gone before

[blissful dome]

Why are you like this

[latent palm]

[thick temple]

i've asked them that a few times now

they don't seem interesting in answering

[jade dirge]

lets just settle it at: HEL is the kind of bullet it shoots, its just a really fucking fast bullet that pierces targets

[blissful dome]

Youre wrong

[jade dirge]

that is literally what the wiki said

[blissful dome]

Nuhuh

[thick temple]

"let's just settle it at the thing that i've been saying it is so that i can be right"

[high orchid]

no

[blissful dome]

I don't think so

[lusty river]

Imagine using wiki

[jade dirge]

fast bullet, pierces targets

[latent palm]

Fast isnt everything lmao

[high orchid]

if we're bringing up the wiki it literally says the hel revolver uses armor piercing rounds

[blissful dome]

The firing mechanism might make the bullet faster

[latent palm]

U mean to say something that is sound barrier speed

Can pass through 30cm of solid wall?

[jade dirge]

fast bullet, pierces targets

[high orchid]

nothing about the bullets being hel rounds

[latent palm]

Idk where u going with the “go fast and eat ass”

[blissful dome]

Yes sleepy is trolling again

[jade dirge]

hel just means armor piercing, lets settle it there

[latent palm]

You are smoking some sweet ass zaza today to be doing that

[boreal yew]

Isn't HEL = high energy laser?

[jade dirge]

doesnt matter what it doe or how it does it, hel means pierces targets

[jade dirge]

no its hybrid electrothermal light-gas

[latent palm]

[blissful dome]

I am going to defenestrate you

[high orchid]

Hel means hybrid electrothermal light-gas

[boreal yew]

Ah, yes, I recall seeing this before

[serene jewel]

did they actually buff sniper in more than one way

[jade dirge]

no, they reduced shot cooldown and called it a day

[rose nova]

u dont understand the other change to it

[jade dirge]

thats the only weapon change listed?

[rose nova]

now its an amazing ||mom tank and pmom killer|| for hosts

[quartz cape]

Yum tumors

[rose nova]

well amazing, a very good

for hosts

[serene jewel]

ok now I look like an asshole, there was another change

Also, it seems that damage done to bosses via tumors is no longer capped. This should mean the client-tumor bug is no longer relevant. It also means sniper can 3-shot mothers and 5-shot (almost 4-shot) tanks.

[quasi pine]

wait they made the sniper a boss killer?

[true pilot]

yeah sniper is a boss kiler now

[quasi pine]

that’s actually sick

[true pilot]

a very good one

comparable to scatter

[serene jewel]

doesn't beat two shot mom and tank (almost) tho

[jade dirge]

how many shots does it take to take down a jugger

[serene jewel]

a what

[true pilot]

It gets range unlike scatte atleast

[jade dirge]

juggernaut

[rare stone]

ignore them, they're a troll

[true pilot]

Please use the names everyone here uses, just for clarity

[serene jewel]

this isn't warframe

[jade dirge]

i aint a troll cat

[jade dirge]

no, because ill never remember them

[serene jewel]

I mean enjoy being misunderstood then

[rare stone]

see what I mean?

[latent palm]

Why u not calling him dumbass anyone

[quartz cape]

And we can’t remember the names you use

[jade dirge]

because he changed his name

[quartz cape]

Seems like a classic standoff

[jade dirge]

his name is smartass cat now

[latent palm]

Oh

Hey smartass

[jade dirge]

if i called him dumbass now id just look like an asshole

[latent palm]

Tell me the correct dmg for sniper pls

[serene jewel]

too late

isn't it 160

no

that's the hp it does to a nightmare scout

which is like 1hp off to kill lmao

[latent palm]

Yeah just 1 short

[jade dirge]

seriously though how much damage does the sniper do to juggers

[quartz cape]

To what?

[latent palm]

14% special dmg comes clutch

[latent palm]

Giants

[jade dirge]

juggernauts

[latent palm]

He hasnt met bbcs yet

[quartz cape]

What?

[serene jewel]

if you won't go to the effort to describe what you mean then I won't have the effort to ask you what you mean

have fun finding out on the wiki

[latent palm]

Yeah same but I know what he means

[jade dirge]

the black fuckers with triple attack? ive killed those things

[latent palm]

Chargers then

[true pilot]

If you mean giant strikers - it oneshots to them to the head

[jade dirge]

ohoho

[true pilot]

if you mean something else then fucking elaborate

[serene jewel]

there are chargers and giant chargers, which everyone calls bbc/big black chargers

[wispy bluff]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Enemies

[latent palm]

He calls em juggas now

Heh

[jade dirge]

the large fuckers, like a big biter

[serene jewel]

yea then fuck em, let them get misunderstood

[quartz cape]

A big what?

[jade dirge]

biter

[latent palm]

A big biter

[jade dirge]

the fucker that bites you

[quartz cape]

A what?

[lusty river]

Blud can’t even use the correct names, Idk why y’all bother tbh

[latent palm]

Eto bleh

[jade dirge]

its got the biting tongue, it bites you

[quartz cape]

Does it strike?

[serene jewel]

literally everything except a shooter has biting tongue

gl

[jade dirge]

i guess it strikes you, but the tongue has teeth on it so i call it a biter

[true pilot]

W h a t

what

jusy

whay

[quartz cape]

If it strikes you, maybe it is a striker?

[true pilot]

visible confusion

[jade dirge]

the little bastards that sometimes crawl, has 20 health, and are the most common enemy type

the basic ass melee unit, a biter

[serene jewel]

did the hel gun only get 5 more ammo

[jade dirge]

big fucken mouth goes up his whole face

[quartz cape]

Oh those are called crumb-pops

[wispy bluff]

A biter is a fair assessment because they bite

[true pilot]

regular fucking strikers

[wispy bluff]

But the rest of your nicknames are crazy

[true pilot]

sniper oneshots them

always did

always will

[jade dirge]

yeah, i want to know about the big edition, juggernauts

[serene jewel]

the sniper should be able to overpen

[wispy bluff]

Giants. They are just giants.

[rare stone]

only?

[quartz cape]

Zap tappers?

[wispy bluff]

Hell, we have a canonic name for them

"Big Boy"

[rare stone]

that also means it gets more ammo from ammopacks

[rose nova]

no
like
why

[serene jewel]

that's why I was asking

[wispy bluff]

literally on your voice com

[true pilot]

I fucking gave you the answer 5 minutes ago

[jade dirge]

you did?

[serene jewel]

because it's shooting fucking hollow point and you're telling me one striker can tank it for an entire line? come on

[jade dirge]

oh, its an instakill

[quartz cape]

Video game

[true pilot]

@jade dirge

[jade dirge]

how many rounds does the sniper hold

[serene jewel]

although overpen for giants probably shouldn't be a thing

[quartz cape]

1

[rose nova]

sniper with pen would be either useless cause u can never line two bigs heads together and to bodyshot u hel rifle
or its like a lot of pen like 5 6 and then it just becames too much good for waves when its supposed to that be like the exchange

[jade dirge]

it gets one per mag?

[idle lava]

what's with the rule 13 what are old rundowns? isn't the game fully released and all the rundowns availiable?

[lusty river]

Idk play the game

[true pilot]

2 in mag, like 13 max

[wispy bluff]

I imagine that's the point of hollow points, no?

[jade dirge]

thats kinda shit

[rose nova]

hollow points are for precision dmg

[serene jewel]

ok fair point

[true pilot]

It means rundowns accesible only via modding, anything you see on vanilla rundown selection scren is fine

[quasi pine]

why don’t they want people playing the original rundowns anyway?

[latent palm]

Thats what i was trying to say for the last 2 days

[true pilot]

Its not as bad as it seems, pre nerf it had 3. Scatergun which is one of the most op guns has also just 2 bullets in mag

[serene jewel]

they don't want to turn giants into fodder

[lusty river]

Fr like he’s been talking nonstop since he joined instead of actually playing the game lol

[burnt flume]

It would be confusing for the lfg

[idle lava]

probably the same thing as painters not wanting you to look at their unfinished pieces

[opal thorn]

but they were finished products

[true pilot]

I think they just dont want people to play them on this server to avoid confusion with ALTs

[jade dirge]

i mean the 13 total ammo

[idle lava]

and no mod policy too

[rare stone]

anytime they ask a question you should just tell them to play the game

[lusty river]

🙏

[latent palm]

Idk what to tell you from last monday when they said “juggas”

[rose nova]

they were alpha, 1-5
rundown 6 idk

but the rest like

were earl access

[serene jewel]

is the arbalest still not worth using

[idle lava]

btw is r1a1 just not very solo friendly? been banging my head against the wall for some time now
might be a skill issue tho

[serene jewel]

probably not, ammo count isn't really that important

[lusty river]

It’s not hard to call them their respective names. Nobody knows what a juggernaut is

[burnt flume]

The entire game is hard to solo really, without cheese

[rare stone]

game is mainly intended as a 4-player-coop experience

[quasi pine]

3 players 1 bot or 4 players is generally the best way to play

[idle lava]

I know that, but still

[burnt flume]

I was doing r1a1 solo speed runs earlier and kept failing despite my past experience

[rose nova]

the entire game is not solo friendly
with bots it is tho

[high orchid]

big difference between that is that scatter is a lot easier to justify using on smalls as it can kill multiple in 1 shot, while sniper either weakens a large it can 1 shot (except bbc) or kill 1 small per shot

[burnt flume]

Don't feel too disheartened, it is rough and solo asks for a much better skillset

[serene jewel]

r1b1 is probably easier

[high orchid]

r1b1 is easier than r1a1 to solo

the class 4 on r1a1 is a bitch solo

[rose nova]

yeah, r1b1 u can just evade a ton hell of alarms

and do a ton of stealth

[serene jewel]

does r5b1 have a lot of giants

[lusty river]

Can confirm I have skill issue soloing r1a1

[rose nova]

yes

[high orchid]

yes

[serene jewel]

hmmm

[rose nova]

a lot of different giants tho

[serene jewel]

scatter or new sniper

[high orchid]

R1b1 has every giant in it I think

[rose nova]

scattergun

or burst cannon

[high orchid]

idk about chickens

[rose nova]

preferably tbh

[serene jewel]

oh yeah burst also got buffed

[latent palm]

Burst cannon

[idle lava]

r1a1 I just die on the first alarm always lmao

[serene jewel]

hmmmmmmmmm

[rose nova]

it can or it cannot, rng
i had 6 last time i did it

[serene jewel]

eh two people already have hel rifle

[idle lava]

there's not a lot of space to maneuvre

[quasi pine]

how do you oneshot a bbc with sniper

I thought they had no head multipliers

[exotic geyser]

Probably from the back

[serene jewel]

back shot

[quasi pine]

o

[high orchid]

(EXcept bbc)

[burnt flume]

I hate to break it to you but

[latent palm]

No

[boreal yew]

You can't one shot a BBC using sniper

[burnt flume]

40 x 2 is not >120

[quasi pine]

😔

[latent palm]

You cant one shot bbcs

[opal thorn]

this is amusing to watch

[serene jewel]

oh

[exotic geyser]

You can if you have a dollar and a dream

[lusty river]

I was about to say sniper can’t one shot bbc haha

[serene jewel]

can't scatter one shot them

[high orchid]

yeah

[quasi pine]

yes

[latent palm]

[serene jewel]

damn scattr still master race

[burnt flume]

Yeah because 150 or whatever is >120

[boreal yew]

Scatter can from the front, BC can from the back

[quasi pine]

I’ve never been able to get scatter to oneshot hybrids though which is a bummer

I hate hybrids

[rare stone]

aim at head

[exotic geyser]

Dev team loves hybrids. It's why sniper got nerfed

[wraith marsh]

sniper and scatter both worth taking now

[quasi pine]

hybrids move so erratically it’s hard to headshot them with the sniper anyway

scatter has always been worth taking I thought?

[exotic geyser]

They only move erractically if your team is full of mouth breathers and shoot 'em

[burnt flume]

Said nobody ever

[rare stone]

wait for them to charge up their shooting animation

they stand still

[lusty river]

Just point and click

😏

[wraith marsh]

yes but sniper wasnt

[latent palm]

Imagine saying hybirds are hard to hit

[jade dirge]

hybrid heads are the size of canada, its impossible to miss with half decent aim

[lusty river]

Hybrids are much easier to headshot than giants imo

[latent palm]

Yeah because they take longer to charge up firing than giants

[idle lava]

what is the purpose of glow sticks and long range flashlights?....

[little ridge]

It depends because hybrids have weird stagger animations, therefore adjusting aim for a staggered giant is easier

[latent palm]

And its basically where the giants head gonna go but backwards

[true pilot]

l i g h t

[latent palm]

What i just said too

[little ridge]

Personally yes, I find hybrids easier but that's because I wait for them to do the shooting animation

[rare stone]

glow sticks don't alert enemies, they're a safe lightsource
and LRF is just beeg l i g h t

[idle lava]

I can have light with any other equipment

[latent palm]

Yes

Press f my man

Let there be light in this bitch

[idle lava]

okay not alerting glowsticks is cool and it never said that

that's cool

also fuck the beeeg light

[lusty river]

LRF are good to see shadows more clearer

[latent palm]

Player flashlight alert enemies

[idle lava]

useless

[lusty river]

LRF is not useless but okay

[latent palm]

But complex lights are cool

[pallid anvil]

LRF my beloved :3

[quasi pine]

I take glow sticks with the intent to use them and then they just rot in my inventory until the end of the mission

[idle lava]

THAT is explicitly said MULTIPLE times
so yea I know

[idle lava]

srry didn't see cos too many msges

[opal thorn]

i too enjoy getting thrown a schoolbag

[latent palm]

And yes id willingly be happy nailing it to ur head

[pallid anvil]

ermm

[idle lava]

damn

[latent palm]

Love it when they jiggle with spot lights on em

[quasi pine]

I want a backpack cosmetic that has a “kick me” note taped onto it

[high orchid]

I want a way to get the old r6 overload and secondary objective palettes

my group at the time was too much of a pussy to do optionals for later levels and I am so mad I can't get em anymore

[latent palm]

Sadge

If only there was a way

[lusty river]

Use the matter wave projector to go back to old r6

[little ridge]

Can I use it to return to when I was young so I can enjoy CS 1.6 again?

[lusty river]

😭

[little ridge]

A good old time where you'd just get in a server, shoot, then leave

[bronze burrow]

Yo is the Nano pistol still meh after this patch ?

[jade dirge]

try it out

[lusty river]

It’s decent now. But I don’t use main pistols much except hel revo

[opal thorn]

u can 2 burst strikers

[thin abyss]

couldnt you already do that or am i like going insane?

[thick temple]

yeah you could before, though you had to hit head twice, dunno if that much has changed
i don't think it has though?

[thin abyss]

how much damage is "slightly increased"?

[lusty river]

#wiki-chat message

[rough robin]

They fixed client/host disparity?!

[burnt flume]

no

they just did a funny thing that, well, is very funny

[bronze burrow]

All right I see I'll have to give it a go

[rough robin]

How funny.

[hybrid cloak]

the client joke became host joke too

sniper at least

[earnest forge]

There was an attempt though. Arguably fixing it for good would be too complex without risking to break other things
At least that is what I get from what others far more understanding of this game systems than I am said in the past.

[pine root]

instead they broke boss balance

BAsed

[junior latch]

not rly

...

unless it was already broken

[pine root]

? it was

[junior latch]

in which case i could agree

[pine root]

scatter was and is a crime agianst the game

and now sniper is also a crime#

[quasi pine]

scatter is still better than sniper

[pine root]

on mom

yeah

on tank probs not just do to saftey

[topaz lichen]

I think fixing tumour overkill (hp sync issue) is pretty simple to fix, send limbid with damage info and host can clamp to current hp.

but solving the issue of client tumours not breaking when they should due to latency and special cases like shotgun is very hard to fix

[junior latch]

mom - scatter
tank - sniper
pmom - scatter

monarch scatter (sniper is easier tho i guess?)

kraken - sniper again

[pine root]

^ the probelm was that client can do more dmg than the health of the tumors up to a point tumor has 10 hp client could do the full dmg

[hybrid cloak]

takes tank 5 hits instead of 7 with sniper

rip

[topaz lichen]

yes and to fix that, by sending limbid the host can clamp client damage to tumour current hp

the issue of shotguns tho and tumours not breaking is very hard to fix

[high orchid]

wym rip that's 1 less reload

[hybrid cloak]

rip in a good way

[high orchid]

only 1 reload if your team shoots

[pine root]

AH i get it

for a second i thought cilent didnt send that info

[hybrid cloak]

mom takes 3
pmom still takes 7

[topaz lichen]

ye, sadly I can't think of any non-complex solution for tumour breakage syncing

ud have to do client side prediction along the lines of deadbodyfix for that which I can understand 10cc not wanting to do

[topaz lichen]

they don't, but it should be a simple change for 10cc to implement - arguably better solution than blanket allowing overkill (depends on ur opinions on balance)

[quasi pine]

I just want to experience 3 mag size sniper

it sounds like a great weapon

[opal thorn]

man b4 wave is so small now

[high orchid]

you had 3 years to experience it lol

[pine root]

They must tho because the correct tumor breaks when cilent shots it

[quasi pine]

I didn’t start playing until after r8 released

[topaz lichen]

ah ur right lmao - ye idk why 10cc didn't just have host check the limb directly then 😆

[high orchid]

from OG R5-ALT://R6

[quasi pine]

I only briefly had it years ago before refunding it bc my system couldn’t run it

[pine root]

So you can find some werid backwards method

Probs a bit laggy

[high orchid]

there is a mod that exists that reverts the sniper changes from R8

[thick temple]

Random question btw
In r6cx
||are woods and Hacketts bodies anywhere? I looked for them a bit but didn't see them||

[jade dirge]

man i just want a mod that makes the bat look like a sword

[quasi pine]

English longbow weapon when

[topaz lichen]

||at the end of the level go up the stairs it's somewhere along side the mimic||

[jade dirge]

||dont 2 of the players play as woods and hackett?||

[thick temple]

||we found bishop right next to it and dauda hanging over the railing behind it, but I didn't see the others||

[rose nova]

theres only two there

[topaz lichen]

||oh tbh I didn't know which 2 were there I just remember there being 2, I don't think u can find the other 2, but someone can correct me||

[rose nova]

pretty ure

yeah i think its only two

||theres other 2 in r8a1 and all 4 in r8d1||

[thick temple]

Hm, kinda weird then, but alright

[jade dirge]

||wait why would our own corpses be in r6?||

[thick temple]

Slendi you gotta say what level you're spoiling 😭

[true pilot]

no, just ||dauda and bishop, schaeffers log straight up says that the other 2 operatives escaped||

[true pilot]

L o r e

[thick temple]

Oh, rip aight

[jade dirge]

yeah but like, ||dont i play as hackett?|| why would ||i be able to find my own corpse?||

[thick temple]

Oh, also
Logsmaxxers
Did they actually fix logs

[rare stone]

they did

got 188/188 now

[thick temple]

Pog

[rare stone]

and my final achiev

[jade dirge]

||who is shaeffer?||

[rare stone]

idk play the game

[quasi pine]

are the weird eggs in the bodies of sleepers ever explained

[true pilot]

play the game

[jade dirge]

seriously, he just ||dumped me and rose in an apocalypse in r6d2||, guy sounds like a dick

[true pilot]

discover the lore

[pine root]

You can later

[thick temple]

Good to know ty

[pine root]

Dw you found it all

Gl with r7

[rose nova]

oh :3 sorry

[jade dirge]

can someome give me a quick rundown on why this complex matters so much that we have to keep going back

[rose nova]

sorry sorry sorry

[high orchid]

we're finishing up missing levels in older rundowns first before we hit 7

[jade dirge]

why can we not go to a less infected, less dangerous complex for the same goals

[quasi pine]

something something end of the world

[thick temple]

We're actually hopping back to r2 to do d1+ and all of r3, Conners missing r2d1-2, 3 of us are missing e1, Conners missing all of r3 and bluestar and I are missing c1+

[pine root]

Wild

[thick temple]

Then we hopping to r7, where it all started for me

[high orchid]

uGh conner needs r2d1?

[true pilot]

cause there isnt one

[jade dirge]

is htis the only complex?

[thick temple]

I said that like 4 times xD

[pine root]

Yeah

[jade dirge]

if they knew shit might hit the fan why not build a second complex

[true pilot]

Frankly, this is the only place humanity is still even alive

[pine root]

The only people that are real are in hsu

[high orchid]

this whole time I thought it was d2-e1

[pine root]

It hit the fan because of the complex

[jade dirge]

then why did they build the complex in the first place knowing it could be apocolyptic

[pine root]

They didn’t know

[jade dirge]

oh fair

[true pilot]

they didnt know?

[thick temple]

Yeah sadly no, D1 shouldn't be a big deal though
And tbh I'm looking forward to d2 with this group lol

[true pilot]

when you build a plane do you expect it to crash?

[jade dirge]

what made the complex so dangerous?

[pine root]

Tbh you should first try most of those levels at this point

[true pilot]

sleepers?

[pine root]

The parasite sleepers

[jade dirge]

im not an aeronautics engineer, so yeah

[high orchid]

d1 is pretty easy, just a boring gen cluster level

[jade dirge]

where did sleepers come from

[pine root]

The parasite

[thick temple]

Yeah really the only one I'm concerned about is R2e1 before r7, just cause I'm not really a fan of it, but we'll see how it goes

[jade dirge]

where did the parasite come from

[nimble pumice]

||Meteorite, virus, and cross dimensional time travel||

[pine root]

Other dimensions

[jade dirge]

always interdimensional tomfuckery

[pine root]

Yup

[jade dirge]

why go to other dimensions if you know some tomfuckery is gonna fuck it all up?

[true pilot]

Believe me when i say this, pre OG R6 everything was much simpler

[true pilot]

they didnt know

they found fancy artifacts

reverse engineered warp gates

used them

[jade dirge]

ohter dimensions never go well, never in a million years will fucking with other dimensions help

[true pilot]

proceed to doom humanity

[pine root]

In all dimensions

[hybrid cloak]

it makes a great story

[pine root]

Does it

[jade dirge]

we have enough problems in this dimension, bringing another dimension into the fray always fucks it up

[pine root]

They came to us

[hybrid cloak]

yes if handled well

[pine root]

Is it handled well

[hybrid cloak]

like 2/10

[true pilot]

i still believe destination would make a great solar power plant

[jade dirge]

we should have shot them the moment they showed up, the other dimensions can keep their problems at home

[pine root]

Incorrect

[jade dirge]

is the destination the sand dimension?

[true pilot]

they were 5K kilometers below the ground and we found them already dead

[true pilot]

yup

[jade dirge]

that place is a waste of time, theres already biters in the sand dimension

no use going there, just as many problems there as there are here

[pine root]

Interesting

[true pilot]

If we ever find it irl im starting a business there

except the presence of sleepers

[pine root]

I am a biter

[jade dirge]

theres even the ||fucking kraken||

[pine root]

😈

[true pilot]

multiple even =)

[jade dirge]

like, theres even larger problems in the sand dimension, we're better off here

just send in slightly larger teams to retrieve the HSU's, rally humanity, and just hold out

[pine root]

How do they reproduce

[true pilot]

Uhhh tentacles?

i dunno

[jade dirge]

make a small standing army to wipe out the sleepers

[true pilot]

and im scares to find out

[true pilot]

well theres a slight issue

[pine root]

But it doesn’t change anything every one is still infected

[true pilot]

how will you wipe out several million of them

[jade dirge]

just go get the hsu's to get more people

[pine root]

And the hsu fucks with you

[quasi pine]

nukes

[pine root]

You made a nuke before

?

[jade dirge]

we kill hundreds of biters per mission, we are just 4 peopls

[quasi pine]

can’t be that hard

[pine root]

surely not

[jade dirge]

get a fifth person and enough bullets, we could kill all hte biters

[true pilot]

ngl i wanna say that would work except the part where nam-v survives in a random hole and fucks us up a centaury later

[quasi pine]

rockpox

[pine root]

It wouldn’t work because there would still exist partials of virus somewhere

[true pilot]

Right you havent played R8E1, you dont know what kinda shit is hidden in some places of the complex

[true pilot]

yeah thats what i said

[pine root]

Mb

[quasi pine]

is there exclusive stuff to r8e1 or something

[pine root]

R8a2

[vernal nebula]

Yeah that level has some exclusive stuff

[quasi pine]

a random a level has a unique enemy?

[true pilot]

I was just reffering to the casual ||4 tanks and a shit ton of nightmares and regulars||

[pine root]

2

[vernal nebula]

Secondary does, not main

[quasi pine]

oh that sounds great

to get PE do you have to not use checkpoints

[true pilot]

nope

[pine root]

Nope

[true pilot]

you just get the mark of shame

which you can live with

[quasi pine]

what mark of shame

[true pilot]

green thingy at the conpletiom screen

[quasi pine]

oh

[vernal nebula]

[true pilot]

this symbol

[quasi pine]

oh ok

I can live with that

does that symbol show on the rundown screen

or just the extraction screen

rad

[high orchid]

only on the clear

imo should make it show on the rundown screen and give something for not using checkpoints

[mellow hedge]

New achievement

[ripe sorrel]

Hello, im french i played GTFO almost a year ago, i always played with french/friends so i wanted to try with foreigner, i like talking english im not sure if im good but i want to try anyway. i restarted GTFO yesterday on a new account, im basically a noob, if anyone want to try to play with me im in a channel !

[jade dirge]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[jade dirge]

heh, i got to do it

[jade dirge]

use id:customize if you dont have a role yet btw

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you want a refreshner on the game be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[jade dirge]

forgot the slendi copypasta

[ripe sorrel]

okay thx !

[jade dirge]

do you have that in like a word doc or is it just a macro of yours

[rose nova]

a notepad

[jade dirge]

ah

do you open it each time oyu log on or what

[rose nova]

no but i have it in my desktop

just in case

[ripe void]

Gaylendi

[jade dirge]

ah

[rose nova]

very

[ripe void]

Wery

[jade dirge]

Hey slendi, I got a question

What main gun complements choke shot

Been meaning to try choke shoy

[rose nova]

chokemods gotta reload a ton so anythin that doesnt hav a long reload which is pretty much every main

[pine root]

Hel rev

[rose nova]

apart from what like whatev u want

[jade dirge]

Preferably something with some reach and good ttk

[blissful dome]

screenshot faster no mark

[pine root]

Hel rev

[blissful dome]

trust me

[blissful dome]

hel revo

[rose nova]

hel rev

[blissful dome]

dmr????

idk

[jade dirge]

hel iron then

[blissful dome]

yea

[jade dirge]

dmr bad, too much scope

[blissful dome]

:P

ok

[jade dirge]

if a dmr existed with a basic holo sight or irons it would be perfect

[blissful dome]

dtr?

[rose nova]

dtr isnt a dmr

[jade dirge]

ill try it, but dtr seems like its kinda crap

[blissful dome]

ok but like

[jade dirge]

preferably a pistol, since choke shot is a long gun

[blissful dome]

ttk

it has ttk and range

[hybrid cloak]

you'll get jumped if u keep saying hel iron

[jade dirge]

they can try, i can jump higher

and i have a hel iron, i cna shoot 2 people per bullet

[rose nova]

hel revo

[quasi pine]

will the lighting change make r4c3 any more difficult

[pine root]

Why do you call it that

[jade dirge]

its a big iron that fires hel rounds

hel iron

[pine root]

Curious

[mellow hedge]

It is ALSO the Hel Revo

[jade dirge]

just like the special slot revolver is the magnum iron

[hybrid cloak]

weirdo

[jade dirge]

but i just call it magnum most of the time

[wispy bluff]

cant tell if better or worse that he doesn't call it mastabo

at least i know exactly what he's reffering to....

[quasi pine]

I thought the special revolver was kinda crummy

[ripe void]

Gaylendi

[rose nova]

whats crummy

[quasi pine]

the special revolver

[ripe void]

🌫️

[rose nova]

no, what does crummy mean

[quasi pine]

oh

crummy is not good

[rose nova]

ah
no it is good, its a super super duper fast small killer

[hybrid cloak]

means garbo

[rose nova]

as long as u hit, headshots at all its super fast

[burnt flume]

crummy doesn't mean garbage

[rose nova]

oh

[burnt flume]

that's overselling the word

as jelly said, it's not good

or kinda bad

spreading misinfo is a crummy thing to do, for example

[quasi pine]

[hollow quarry]

I don’t think it ever was finalized

[jade dirge]

It's a magnum version of the normal revolver

Far higher damage at the cost of no pen

[jade dirge]

Dogshit

[fossil rain]

I’m surprised there’s no buffs to the short rifle

[jade dirge]

I've never even used short rifle, is it that bad?

[fossil rain]

That thing is crummyer

[rose nova]

its usable like every other gun

but underwhelming

[quasi pine]

just use scattergun

[high orchid]

fr it's kinda like a special version of the rifle

[rose nova]

or other special weapons if u need something else

[sharp owl]

gtfo is bad

[high orchid]

in what way?

[rose nova]

they just say it every time

[sharp owl]

Now that the game is complete

[hybrid cloak]

uninstall

[rose nova]

or mod

[quasi pine]

you can now die peacefully

[sharp owl]

I don't think I'll ever finish the game

[sick inlet]

How do u do new dodge?

[sharp owl]

Input a direction that doesn't involve forward, press shift

[quasi pine]

I had no idea there even was a dodge

[sick inlet]

It's new

[sharp owl]

It's useless usually

Decent for dodging things while aiming and shooting i guess

And in stealth you can cover more ground

[quasi pine]

does it at least make projectiles miss you?

[sharp owl]

Sometimes it does

[quasi pine]

wow

[sharp owl]

Depends on how you time it

It's not an i win button for shooters

You move like 1 meter

It has a cool down

[rose nova]

enough to just dodge most shit if u time it well

[sharp owl]

I tried the burst pistol today

It did feel better

[hybrid cloak]

why tho

[sharp owl]

Hard

[hybrid cloak]

i guess pubbing is

[analog flicker]

dodging is difficult to use in GTFO imo

[sharp owl]

Unless I've practiced a mission for an unhealthy amount of hours I'm usually bad

[rose nova]

sometimes ive done by accident and ithas saved me from dmg

[analog flicker]

espeically now that it eats up your stamina

[sharp owl]

Dodge has no right needing so much stamina

[quasi pine]

I’m at 80 hours and still can’t crack r4c3

[sharp owl]

Is that the fog

[analog flicker]

they wanted to balance it somehow

[rose nova]

i mean, normal

with 80 hours i would expect u to be at r3 or somethin

without clearin the E tier and some D tiers of r2 of course

[sharp owl]

D2 moment

Ooooooo

[analog flicker]

dodge not consuming any stamina as it did previously is pretty strong but also. accidentally dodging and eating stamina is pretty bad

[quasi pine]

I found good players to complete r2 and r3 with without much issue

r4 is just crazy hard

[sharp owl]

I still need like e1 n d2 on r4

[quasi pine]

I can’t even imagine what bullshit r4e1 has in store

[hybrid cloak]

is there a specific mission u need can drop in tomorrow

[sharp owl]

Uuuuuuuj

[leaden beacon]

How much better did sniper get?

[quasi pine]

marginally better

[leaden beacon]

Sad

[sharp owl]

Enough to not feel like it's defective

[quasi pine]

still just use scattergun

[leaden beacon]

Scattergun still giga strong?

Oh

[sharp owl]

You now can shoot it when recoil stops

[latent palm]

Elbow tryna diss sniper when PR isnt buffed

[hybrid cloak]

so yes?

[sharp owl]

I'm not even trying to diss sniper

[latent palm]

Thats the joke

[sharp owl]

Whuhuhhu

[quasi pine]

i have no idea how I used sniper the entirety of r1 and for like 70% of r2

[sharp owl]

Yes I have a few

Anything past r7c1
R6c3 and d3
R4d2 n e1
R5d2 n e1 maybe others
R8e2

[hybrid cloak]

r6c3 sounds good

[sharp owl]

Pick whatever you enjoy

Great

[hybrid cloak]

we can do all of em

but r6c3 is a nice start

try "new" sniper

[sharp owl]

Yej

[quasi pine]

we should be able to take the sniper as a melee weapon

[hybrid cloak]

can do c3 now if u up

[sharp owl]

Ok

Lemme just get out of my bed real quick

[hybrid cloak]

weeeeee

a vc for 2 or 4 @sharp owl

[sharp owl]

can you beat it with 2?

[hybrid cloak]

sure

[sharp owl]

we ball

[serene jewel]

Is artifact heat per rundown

[sharp owl]

yes

[serene jewel]

Seems like it

[sharp owl]

if you complete a bunch of rundown 2 stuff it wont change the heat on r1

[latent palm]

20mins later

You suck azert

[sharp owl]

layer

azert

[latent palm]

No u suck elbow

[hybrid cloak]

[sharp owl]

i do not suck elbows

i protect them

[latent palm]

Hmmm

Mad sus

[hybrid cloak]

he doesnt suck

[sharp owl]

t r u s t

[hybrid cloak]

kinda yikes

[blissful dome]

Idk about that

[quasi pine]

I’m gonna hit your funny bone

[latent palm]

Same here

They are doing the mischievous acts in geeteeffooo

[jade dirge]

Hey elbow, have you used choke shot?

[blissful dome]

Ong

[blissful dome]

.

[jade dirge]

What's with all the dots

Say something or quit pinging me man

[latent palm]

@rare stone as this smart ass has said

“Play the game” -Smartass cat 15/2/2024

[jade dirge]

He's not a smart ass he's smartass, its his name

[latent palm]

I think hes a smart ass

Or do you wana call him smooth ass

[jade dirge]

I mean he is but it's rude to say iy

[latent palm]

Cause hes not smart

[jade dirge]

Hey warp, what's the point of choke shot?,

[latent palm]

[jade dirge]

You got the base shotgun or combat shot for general applications, and you got sawn or hel for main gun shotguns

It's just a long gun sawn off

[latent palm]

Im just gonna sleep

Its 4:38am

[jade dirge]

Have a nice nap friend

[pallid anvil]

GRRRRRRRR rule 7 breakers

ill swallow them

[burnt flume]

gn kaiser sleep well, don't let the gtfo chat demons get you

[latent palm]

I am not answering this

[pine root]

0.0 where is your lobby

[latent palm]

Ping them like you ping me

[jade dirge]

Its fine to join without an invite if the person is your friend, ain't it?

[quasi pine]

what is rule 7

[latent palm]

Thanks alot pachi

I needed that

[quasi pine]

I am under your bed

[burnt flume]

#rules hope this helps!

[jade dirge]

Don't join without an invite, but one of the mods said it's fine if you know the person

[quasi pine]

radical

[latent palm]

No one said there was hot men under my bed?

[pallid anvil]

i pinged you once

[pine root]

Well more like it is fine if you know the person

And you are both okay with it

[latent palm]

Wow this is such a good deal

[mellow hedge]

God B4 is SO much more bearable

First try lmao

[latent palm]

I didnt even bother asking to play

Good zaza quality right there

[jade dirge]

Same difference, if your friends with someone they won't mind you turning up

[latent palm]

I join jish every time i get the chance

Either GTFR

Or just scuffed cell skips

[jade dirge]

That's why whenever rose is in a lobby I turn up, he's a cool guy

[burnt flume]

please stop stalking jish, they're too precious

[pine root]

No it is okay

Kaiser stalking is better than irl

[latent palm]

Whadda hell boi

[burnt flume]

ah shit this is worse than me getting catcalled

[jade dirge]

Finally helped me beat r1b2 too, rose is just a cool guy in general

[latent palm]

Nvm im going to sleep you so weird today jish

[pine root]

I live in a different dimension

Than gtfo chatters

Must be

Only explanation

[latent palm]

Until you make mushroom seed viable for R8

[jade dirge]

The red dimension is scary

[latent palm]

Then ill believe you

[jade dirge]

The hell even is the red dimension

[sharp owl]

HELL

[jade dirge]

Like, you touch a ||data cube|| and just get teleported, wtf

[jade dirge]

Hey cyber

How's it been man

[hybrid cloak]

auto pistol

[pallid anvil]

R8B4 ending feels easier :((

there are actual like breaks ish now

[mellow hedge]

It is much easier

[lost lynx]

they nerfed R8B4?

damn

[mellow hedge]

Just ran it before

[lost lynx]

now the new people wont know what real pain is

[mellow hedge]

Yeah its the same as main i believe with some nightmares

[hybrid cloak]

same as secondary u mean?

[mellow hedge]

No secondary is the same as main (the waves of enemies) with some nightmares

[hybrid cloak]

ah ok

noppers regardless

[mellow hedge]

Grrrrrr

[jade dirge]

Some what?

[lost lynx]

nightmares

you will see them on R8

the funny sleepers without head

[jade dirge]

I saw what he said, tf is that

[hybrid cloak]

they basically chargers but chonky where it counts

[lost lynx]

theres also the potato

but

youll see later

[mellow hedge]

cheesebburger

[hybrid cloak]

potatoes

[jade dirge]

So tankier black juggernauts?

[lost lynx]

no

[hybrid cloak]

myes

[lost lynx]

they are chargers

but with funny tumors

[hybrid cloak]

also stop calling them juggernauts

[jade dirge]

Tumorback juggernauts?

[lost lynx]

he wont listen

[hybrid cloak]

and tumorfront

[lost lynx]

let the man be

[mellow hedge]

No

[lost lynx]

theres also nightmare scouts

[hybrid cloak]

ill stalk him then

[lost lynx]

and shooters

[jade dirge]

Just tumor juggernauts then?,

[lost lynx]

tumor chargers

[hybrid cloak]

[mellow hedge]

No

[jade dirge]

Nightmare basically just means they have tumors

[lost lynx]

tumor chargers

[mellow hedge]

Their weak spots are on turmors on their back and front

They are just more dangerous chargers

[lost lynx]

they have more HP

and a bit more agressive i think

[jade dirge]

Black juggernauts, but tumor

[lost lynx]

they are not black

they are not giants

they are just chargers with tumors

[jade dirge]

Wait there are multiattack enemies that aren't juggernauts?

[mellow hedge]

Can we just agree on nightmare please