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wispy bluff
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Oh no, maps are not gonna be changing much any time soon. I think there one extra new biome type per rundown, but you'll still see old same rooms of storage, mining sites, etc etc etc

sharp owl
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like

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i havent beaten it yet

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what is r4 actually

rose nova
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for me its bit bonkers to play r1, and then just say r2 its the same thing lol
uplinks fog heavy items blood doors generator

sharp owl
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been kicking my ass

wispy bluff
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When are the labs introduced? R3?

sharp owl
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what is the entire point of r4

rose nova
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secondary overload

sharp owl
rose nova
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and a ton shit of ||error alarms||

sharp owl
rose nova
sharp owl
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if you are just put black over it

rose nova
sharp owl
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you don't meet any guy

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ever

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you meet him after 82 levels

rose nova
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... no?

sharp owl
rose nova
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thats a user who doesnt have any lore log achievements

wispy bluff
# sharp owl what is the entire point of r4

From the wiki:
"The overarching goal of Rundown 004 is mostly unknown, unlike previous Rundowns. Most tasks are simply to gather information, gather construction equipment, scientific equipment or do maintenance work on the facility. All for a purpose that is vaguely referred to by the Warden as "further progress" or "next phase"."

sharp owl
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yeah

wispy bluff
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Its basically a filler episode

pine root
sharp owl
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how

wispy bluff
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Cute missions though.
Except R4C3. Fuck R4C3.

pine root
rose nova
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oh yeah r1d1

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well if u pay attention

sharp owl
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yeah that's what the lore looks like in this game

wispy bluff
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Literally doesn't matter.

rose nova
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everyone misses it, everyone that ive seen play it

sharp owl
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if you dont like sniffing the walls of the game

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and just sitting around

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you will not notice any of it

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well if i techniquelly met him already what part of r1d1 was it

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ah yes allow me to listen to the morse code as i run for my life during an error

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morse code?

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your shitting me

wispy bluff
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@sharp owl there was a morse code for "ESCAPE" banging in the hallway just before the R1D1 reactor.

pine root
sharp owl
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no im not

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in d1 the main character of this game sends you a message

sharp owl
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through morse code

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or at least we think it's him

sharp owl
wispy bluff
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Its pretty loud, hard to not notice. But most people just think its random background noise.

hybrid cloak
wispy bluff
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Elbow, don't confuse him any more than needed.

sharp owl
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what the hell is this game

shut vapor
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idk the plot of R1, but R2 is all about unlocking the path to retrieving the baby, R3 is all about manipulating that baby and imprinting neural protocols into it. R4 and R5 are less organised

rose nova
hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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thats a mf in the vents?

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im just gonna say it

sharp owl
hybrid cloak
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That's the clue
If you translate it it says escape

wispy bluff
sharp owl
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why do you need a baby

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holy hell

quartz cape
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i have 3 cp

sharp owl
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please put black boxes over it i ebg

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Warden, just do an alt scheaffer and cooperate with 1 prisoner

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you don't need to spend 3 rundown to create a sad excuse for a human

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inefficient idiot

shut vapor
sharp owl
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and then alt scheaffer just does his thing

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RIP 3 rundowns of progress

hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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lets go again

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TWICE

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does the warden have a thing for underage boys

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or what

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like this is unhealthy

rose nova
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elbow????????????????

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why the fuck u phrase it like that

unreal crystal
wispy bluff
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Ranting-o-meter going of the charts over here

sharp owl
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how do i wipe my memory i was better off thinking in the back of my head that theres bound to be story soon besides cage drop do objective leave

pine root
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this game goes from zero story bat shit insane logic vill

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So quickly

sharp owl
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whole ass game is meaningless now

sharp owl
wispy bluff
pine root
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Until they ruin it

sharp owl
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warden is super duper smart and he spends all his resources on the stupidest goals imaginable

wispy bluff
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There is an occasional interesting audio log and there but frankly - just read them from the wiki, save yourself a headache.

hybrid cloak
wispy bluff
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I've re-read every log in this game 3 times.

sharp owl
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should i really just skip to r6

hybrid cloak
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If lore is what you want sure

wispy bluff
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Well not love it

sharp owl
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no because im fine with gameplay but like

wispy bluff
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Original R6 was actually more involved

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This retconed one is slightly less

sharp owl
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your geneuinely telling me casually oh yeah all rundowns before r6 are worthless

wispy bluff
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But pay extra attention to logs around there

sharp owl
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can anyone explain to me why we needed a human

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i was excited for rundown 4 because meet new guy but its all in logs

wispy bluff
sharp owl
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is everything just a damn log

sharp owl
gusty burrow
# sharp owl whole ass game is meaningless now

If you care about the 'story' then I'd recommend checking out lore videos on youtube, or reading through the lore logs (the character's stories are legitimately pretty good). R7 and R8 do 'alright' with presenting some story, but R7 feels really disconnected with no original R6 to give it context, and R8 kinda starts going crazy wild right off the bat

wispy bluff
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Which rundown is prisoners' backstory? Rundown 5?

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You can actually skip to that one first.

sharp owl
wispy bluff
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Audio log, granted.

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Also they cut out prisoners' reactions to listening to their past.

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Cool.

sharp owl
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did the devs ever give a shit about the game or the players?

visual escarp
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Exactlyyyy xDD

wispy bluff
wispy bluff
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The #gtfo-lore is pretty much a meme of a channel. People who dwelve there are memes too, myself included.

vestal crystal
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does that mean i'm not a meme artek....

sharp owl
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lets have them do nothing for like 60 missions and late game lets finally tell them what they have been doing all along

vestal crystal
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NLO ✊

sharp owl
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in all fairness if it was real life youd probably never be clued in

wispy bluff
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Every conversation ends with "we dont know / we don't have enough information / we can only speculate / actually none of this makes any fucking sense, so we might as well drop this conversation before we dig this plothole deeper"

unreal crystal
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how the tables have turned

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ERM CAN WE STOP MEMEING IN LORE PLEASE

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now look

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hope it was worth it snowwoman

wispy bluff
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R8 is SUPER HOT on actual things developing, but none of it makes any sense and there's no conventional story cohesion to any of it

shut vapor
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Considering we are never in control, makes sense we aren't informed

wispy bluff
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There is a concept of what's going on, a general outline. But its so... I don't know, flacid is the word? No major plotline gets truly resolved, no question that we've been asking got answered, nothing of true lore values happens.

sharp owl
vestal crystal
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Flaccid....

quartz cape
shut vapor
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Dude the one major plotline does get resolved tho??

rose nova
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i was thinkin that

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like major questions did get resolved, like, what the hell happens

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with our team

sharp owl
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it doesn't make any sense

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it's all a fever dream

shut vapor
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doesn't it?

sharp owl
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yes.

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doesnt

wispy bluff
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This is technically not a spoiler: there are a lot of references to what basically is a giant alien ship buried under The Complex, that they've been sending entire expeditions into and acquiring artifacts.
We never go there. Not once. Don't even get a glimpse.

rose nova
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how?

sharp owl
wispy bluff
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I know, right?

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Blue balled like mad

sharp owl
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gives me a borealias vibe from half life 2

wispy bluff
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Apt comparison

sharp owl
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oh yeah the aperture science borealias ship!

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no half life 3

rose nova
sharp owl
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leave us on a cliffhanger valve

rose nova
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they got the artifacts out of it

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and thats the thing warden wants out of it, and they are in the levels

shut vapor
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The warden's goals are nothing to do with its own ship

rose nova
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like they probs know 'well fuck that place they got everything out of it'
it got robbed lol

sharp owl
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artifacts are all from the ship

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also expeditions to the inner didnt stop

rose nova
wispy bluff
sharp owl
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who said it was fully explored

wispy bluff
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It was so bad, a 3rd side had to entervene and basically nuke the problem.

rose nova
wispy bluff
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Hence how rundown holes we got deployed through were born.

rose nova
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they got what they want, the MWP the data cubes the degaussers

hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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no

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the guy we spent 3 rundowns on stumbles around, finds scheaffer and fucking dies

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congratulations warden

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and then the warden tries to make another one

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absolute embarrassment

rose nova
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i mean its the only way the warden can communicate with schaeffy... without killing him probs
so like

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what else does it do

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kills him

sharp owl
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no it's not

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you know how i know

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because ALT scheaffer has access to warden's database

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the warden just DECIDED to give him access

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so he doesn't need those stupid mimics

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oh look more plotholes

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lets jump in

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target depth 4020m

rose nova
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maybs the warden wantin to convice chaeffer to work with em, instead of just givin access to their database to some random and then him just destroyin it cause he can

wispy bluff
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Why couldn't he just send him a message on a terminal or something, right?

rose nova
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alt schaeffer talked with it, and naturally

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so they trusted on em

wispy bluff
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There are better ways to communicate

rose nova
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and they were like ok sure give em data

analog flicker
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put this memory stick in. See what happens.

wispy bluff
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GET DA MEMORY SDICK

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I need to replay that level, fun level.

rose nova
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most they do its like, install funky codes to the, database itself? idk, thats what r7c1 says

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we dont see any like explicit warden codes on terminal do we

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only how it fights with biocom

wispy bluff
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We now know there is an entire system to talk to people via loadspeakers, even with your voice coded.

sharp owl
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The warden decides to spend 3 RUNDOWNS on one stupid defector prisoner who might not even be alive

wispy bluff
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HE could just learn how to use that instead.

sharp owl
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like again

wispy bluff
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And just "accidentally" send us where it works.

sharp owl
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you have to realize we spend 30% of the game making the mimic

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and they do literally nothing

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they're decorative pieces

wispy bluff
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Warden chose the single most difficult solution to the problem of communicating with us when there are better options all over the place.

rose nova
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it did cooperate with him on r6d1

sharp owl
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r1's goal is "Explore our options by exploring"
r2's goal is "dababy"
r3's goal is "dababy"

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so r1's goal isn't explicitly dababy but it ended up being that

wispy bluff
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R4 - unironically a filler episode

sharp owl
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we spend 3 rundowns on nothing

rose nova
wispy bluff
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R5 - KDS Deep.
R6 - MWP.
R7 - The revolution.
R8 - The consequences.

rose nova
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i get it is taken out of an ass

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yeah they did made it up as they went lol

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but at least panned out, in some way

sharp owl
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also wait

rose nova
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it is the entire reason schaeffer does know about the warden being a bud

hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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if alt scheaffer is logical why do we hear him bludgeon the guy

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in an alt terminal

rose nova
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and it just shows the violence of old schaeffer, which comes on the second part of r8

sharp owl
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in alt r6

rose nova
wispy bluff
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Pretty certain that got cut

rose nova
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thats old schaeffer isnt it

sharp owl
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ye

wispy bluff
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Yeah

sharp owl
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oh it is

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ok

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sad

wispy bluff
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Yeah

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Forever burried with OG R6

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Dead and gone

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(its on the wiki)

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(read the wiki people, its better that way)

rose nova
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i have several times

wicked solstice
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I love the log where he repeatedly screams fuck T you as you extract

rose nova
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i like it

sharp owl
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@lunar island what is the purpose of the mimic

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like dababy we grow

rose nova
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i think it was a warden puppet which it could communicate through

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a way to have, words n stuff

sharp owl
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nah that's just stupud

rose nova
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and, be in person i guess

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ight

sharp owl
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there's no way it cant find another way

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again it just communicates with alt scheaffer fine

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without using a person since he has access to its database

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you can't talk a spreadsheet

rose nova
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i guess, alien logic was lemme be a human to be more friendly and maybe i can convince them- idk i havent met the warden

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its a gross human but hey its the closes they got to a clone, the humans

hybrid cloak
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This is depressing

sharp owl
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convince who man

rose nova
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yeah

rose nova
sharp owl
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who cares about shceaffer bro

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he's one dumbass

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he was in cryosleep for 9 years

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we have 4000 Ksos

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leave him

rose nova
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i mean old schaeffer did like activate a reactor meltdown on hate of the warden so like

hybrid cloak
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ALT Schaffer was a KSO if that helps

rose nova
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good they convince alt schaeffer

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alt schaeffers more intelligent they wouldve blow up the world

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or my heart

sharp owl
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yeah i mean why is scheaffer so important you have to dedicate 2 rundowns to him

rose nova
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idk

sharp owl
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he's just another guy

hybrid cloak
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Break the programming

sharp owl
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why would the warden want to help a guy defy him

grizzled bison
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dead hard 3014

rose nova
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wish i was born on 3014

hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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replace it with anger

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and fuel your destruction of the sleepers

rose nova
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i feel like ur gonna get out of the server again lol

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and uninstall gtfo

sharp owl
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i didn't actually uninstall it

boreal yew
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I like die hard

rose nova
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and create the 'i hate gtfo' fan club

lost lynx
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oh?

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Slendi

rose nova
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slendo

lost lynx
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what do you think of uplinks?

sharp owl
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no the only hate club im a part of is pablo

rose nova
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i dont know why u hate em

sharp owl
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we have plushies btw

lost lynx
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nobody gets me

hybrid cloak
rose nova
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corrupted uplinks r funky

rose nova
lost lynx
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thats why reactors are better

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hehe

rose nova
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i like the r8c1 uplinks they spawn funky shit and are in different places

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and are corrupted

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those r cool

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but well some levels do funny shit with em

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like r2b3, first time they appear its the big surprise, u get two alarms super close which is fun

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r2c1 its slow but, it does have shadow uplinks and that room with 3 scouts

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r8b3 uplink its fun cause forces u to choose, tho i wouldve liked more waves on it

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like a bit harder since it can be easy to defend

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also ||10 codes||

hybrid cloak
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What about r5c1 secondary

rose nova
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... i forgot that one
is it the one with a mom on some room and a shadow error

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i havent done like all of r5 so i dont remember

hybrid cloak
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Yes

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12 code uplink

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After doing 2x6 code uplinks for main

quasi pine
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👽

rose nova
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i, dont think i played it yet lol
but sounds fun tryin to balance it all

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the main can be, well it is

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yeah

boreal yew
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The main uplinks in R5C1 is 7x2

rose nova
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14

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ah no thats- the codes

hybrid cloak
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Starting to see what Pablo means

rose nova
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eh like every objective theres amazing/terrible ones

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uplinks just havent had that much good luck, like the warden protocol thing

hybrid cloak
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Warden protocol is fun if the map layout is well done and not a sprint forward

rose nova
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yeah, thats what i mean, has bad and good maps
r5b4 its bad [well pew pew makes my brain go wii but thats me only] but r6c3 pe its nice and fun n energetic

outer ore
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spoiler warning i guess but
if only the host is locked out of dealing over damage to the ||mother|| enemy does that mean if someone who isn't host hits a fully charged spear of 26.25 * 2.02 with mele booster * ||5 x mother tumor|| * ||3 x from the yellow syringe|| would deal around 800 damage or is that just not how it works?

hybrid cloak
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My brain can't math atm

quartz cape
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if tumors had 800 hp, you could do that, but they don't

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client can only deal the maximum health of a tumor in 1 hit (or short burst)

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host can only deal the remaining health

rose nova
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if a client takes a yellow syringe and does 150 to the tumor, itll break, thats the max limit
if a tumor has 3 hp and a client takes a yellow syringe and does 150 to the tumor, itll count for the full dmg and do 150 again
thats how it works right

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im not, fuckin it up

quartz cape
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yes

rose nova
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ok thank god

outer ore
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so the max limit is the hp of the tumor?

quartz cape
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theres not tumor that is 150 hp but if there was that would be perfectly accurate

quartz cape
outer ore
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got it. thx!!!

rose nova
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oh yeah mothers r 126

vernal nebula
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Holy shit, rundown one hundred twenty six

sharp owl
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wanna hear something funny

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Oh no, i am in this situation where there is a locked box in front of me with a padlock

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next to the box are 3 tanks

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there are no lock melters

rose nova
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shouldve brought knife :3

sharp owl
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check this out

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pick up the box using your hands (insane)

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carry it like an item out of the room

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and smack it open

rose nova
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whys every funny gameplay moment gonna turn to this

sharp owl
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dumbass ksos

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I will return with more

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eventually

rose nova
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maybs the tanks would sense the box being away

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or ur lack of balls

sharp owl
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that's more likely

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but i mean yeah

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add that to the list of common sense solutions

rose nova
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Error//: misplaced box detected, initiating alarm...

sharp owl
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imagine lmao

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i mean that might be a thing given how everything seems to have a tracker in it

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you can ping a pouch that has a few bandages on it, like damn

rose nova
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i mean thats the, thats the biocom- eh u believe what u wanna believe

sharp owl
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how cool would that be as a mechanic though

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picking up boxes

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and as you move the box will rattle because of a lock / contents

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so you make lots of funny noise

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could end up just being tedious but idk sounds fun

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also you should totally be able to melee people with carry items

rose nova
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uh no

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u could just make solo runs even more easy if u can just hold whatev and bonk an error as it approaches

sharp owl
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but it would be great

rose nova
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eh

sharp owl
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also who cares about solo

rose nova
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u lol

sharp owl
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so 0.3% of players

rose nova
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4 player runs would b easy too

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r2e1 would just become bonk the error

sharp owl
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maybe

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it'd be underpowered vs a normal melee obviously

serene jewel
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The prisoners can't do something as simple as combine or drop resource packs without swapping

sharp owl
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using heavy stuff to bludgeon things is as ooga as it gets

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on instinct alone they'd probably try

storm quartz
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would be funny if it just softlocked you cause you broke a objective item

gusty burrow
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Restricting to only shove while carrying an item wouldn't crazy ruin balance

vestal crystal
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pls dont give people ideas for a StrongestPrisoner mod

mystic moss
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"bro drop the cargo, i can sprint with it"

pine root
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You are just sad

shut vapor
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They specced into strength while i lost my skill points

sharp siren
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They Early access skill tree transfer into 1.0 release i tought this was common knowledge

latent palm
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🤓 ☝️

high orchid
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if the bots can do it why can't I

latent palm
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they teleport to you

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dropping the cargo/Neonate/fogturbine on landing at that exact location when teleported

high orchid
high orchid
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as host?

latent palm
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theyre not holding any weapons too lol

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happens commonly on players aswell

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so youd see ppl having the default running animations

high orchid
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the bot desyncing from the host

latent palm
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before swappin to guns or meles

latent palm
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usually its desync but seems more than that

inner hawk
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we need a fourth player? hha

rough robin
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if hitmarkers didn't exist, it would be neat to see enemies fake death

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I play w/o them and used to sometimes get fooled by their falling-back animations after blowing them apart

robust dawn
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annoying af

fleet kettle
lilac steeple
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Привет, ищем 2 игроков для соместного прохождения игры от самого начала.

robust dawn
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agreed

analog flicker
quasi pine
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r3d1 was nuts

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I hate charger scouts and giants

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😭

hybrid cloak
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thank you for shopping

latent palm
sharp owl
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Which rundown is it we start to play the "Story"

gilded igloo
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5 gives you background on the prisoners, 6 is kinda where stuff "starts."

Anyone, correct me if I'm off base on that.

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But even so, there's important stuff missing if you start where it "starts." Like your chatty pal Schaeffer.

gilded igloo
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I think Schaeffer is introduced in 3? But it's small stuff, like logs. He is more important later, but as for where he first ||speaks to you||, I'm not sure.

wicked solstice
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R6 is where stuff really kicks off, but the issue is technically the story is ordered to do OG R1-7, then ALT R1-6, then R8

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So uhhh

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Yeah

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:)

gilded igloo
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Yeah, that's the other part. You simply can't experience some of it anymore.

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I'm hoping when this game is truly left behind for Den of Wolves, they open it up for all rundowns.

wicked solstice
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The only super major story rundown that’s gone is OG R6

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OG R4-5 were mainly lots of lore logs with characters

sharp owl
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So if I wanna experience the "Story" I Should start at R6?

wicked solstice
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Eh

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I’d recommend starting with R1 for learning the game

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It’s hard

sharp owl
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Ive already completed R1 and R2

gilded igloo
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See, we're having a hard time answering cause like, it gets CINEMATIC around Rundown 6, but it's built on lots of context from the older stuff.

sharp owl
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I just want the story

gilded igloo
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And also, Alt rundowns are different from the original rundowns, in important ways. And we don't have access to those originals anymore, EXCEPT for rundown 7.

sharp owl
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Cuz Ive already read through logs in the earlier rundowns, I just wanna experience where we start hearing voiced logs or when we meet the dude who speaks in the speakers

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Where it somewhat makes sense where we are introduced too him

gilded igloo
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Rundown 4 then.

sharp owl
rose nova
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u will start hearin voice in levels without needin to read logs in r6, and a lot of em in r7, but id recommend still checking logs, cause they can explain very important stuff

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like a very early log on r6d1

shell heron
gilded igloo
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Which isn't a delineation until Rundown 6, right?

rose nova
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yeah, yellow missions start on r6 too

distant kraken
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hmm

quasi pine
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How hard is r4?

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from the perspective of a completionist

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cause I like seeing the numbers on the top right maxed out

gilded igloo
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The hardest or second hardest.

quasi pine
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golden

rose nova
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r4s PE levels are pretty high on the difficultu scale
doin only mains sectors of everything its not that hard until D and E tiers

distant kraken
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i just did r5 it took us 1h20m XD

rose nova
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but PE of C tiers D tiers and specialle the sec of E tier are great challenges

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id say its second hardest rundown, below r5 cause r5 starts being hard way early on

distant kraken
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its fun XD

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even for me as a beginner

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got my luck on

rose nova
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which level of r5 u did?

wispy bluff
#

There are some neat logs in R5 and the final level got an interesting room at the very end, but real shit starts in R6 and 7. More so 7, 6 is just full of very important audio logs hidden all over the place.

distant kraken
rose nova
#

ah ksmkdmk

#

damn

distant kraken
#

not understanding all levels meaning either XDD

rose nova
#

whatcha mean :b

distant kraken
#

a

#

b

#

c

#

tier

#

etc

wispy bluff
# distant kraken etc

A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard

While there is a tendency that higher number levels (like C3) are usually harder than their lower counter parts - it is not always the case.
They are usually differentiated by throwing in new mechanics to keep track of (i.e.: fog), or getting all quirky and doing something unorthodox that changes how you play the game compared to most conventional levels.

Rundowns themselves do not necessarily represent any sort of difficulty, but rather they each have a unique identity and philosophy of how they designed their levels and challenges, which makes their difficulty scaling unpredictable and borderline random.
Currently it is generally accepted that Rundowns 1 and 6 are considered the easiest ones, while Rundown 5 is considered to be the cursed one, with 4, 7 and 8 following just behind.

rose nova
#

damn stole my copypasta technique

distant kraken
#

i just go where ever the stupid matchmaking takes me since i cant pick for my slef appearntly

distant kraken
rose nova
#

id much more recommend using the LFG channels in this discord server

distant kraken
wispy bluff
#

Oh yeah, in-game matchamking is sub par for the job. Better use local LFG channels.

#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if u wanna, start right ksmdkm id suggest u start on r1

gilded igloo
#

If you can pass that social anxiety part.

quasi pine
#

I’ve been doing everything in order and it’s been a blast

#

I’m going to start on r4 tonight

distant kraken
#

i need early casrry esp on terminals not my thing XDD

quasi pine
#

Terminals are easy

#

Just list and ping

#

And query

rose nova
#

and query

#

smh

quasi pine
#

That’s all you really need

distant kraken
#

im just not working with it

rose nova
#

doesnt even know the commands >:b

quasi pine
#

goober

distant kraken
#

i started today on this game and r5c1 was my first game XD

quasi pine
#

also don’t use the bio as a crutch @rose nova

rose nova
#

mh, usually best strat for that tbh its just
loading into, idk A1
and then just being on a terminal for, 10 15 mins, reading, experimenting, doin all of that

quasi pine
#

oops wrong ping

rose nova
#

use it

#

its very useful lol

quasi pine
#

yes, use it, but don’t fully rely on it

gilded igloo
quasi pine
#

don’t become reliant on jt

rose nova
#

i mean kinda do, cause why not

#

u have it

#

its reliable

#

will never lie to u

hybrid cloak
quasi pine
#

if you want to be the bio bitch permanently sure why not

#

but there’s 3 other tools

distant kraken
#

i mean i got 2 monitors so could have all comms on one of em XDDD

rose nova
hybrid cloak
gilded igloo
#

Yeah, I always fumble the biotracker

quasi pine
rose nova
gilded igloo
#

Do you know about shadow enemies?

#

How about when it's dark?

quasi pine
#

flashlight

rose nova
gilded igloo
#

Having a roaming forever ping is nice

distant kraken
rose nova
#

specially know about scouts

quasi pine
#

also I’m not talking about the ping feature

rose nova
#

well bio has a ping feature its part of it

quasi pine
#

I’m talking about becoming dependent on using it for literally everything

rose nova
#

not like u can separate em

gilded igloo
#

Well, I mean, the ping is the reason I carry it

quasi pine
#

maybe I’m just not explaining my point that well prisonerefficiency

gilded igloo
#

I was specifically thinking of alarm situations, yeah I rarely use it when roaming

rose nova
#

i mean-- if u go by stealth
its useful, tells u how many enemies are in the next room, how many scouts, in shadow sleeping areas its literally the most important tool lol

#

but it is also useful to know how to guide urself without it

#

which is simple to learn, by doin solo runs

quasi pine
rose nova
#

or bot runs

wispy bluff
#

Biotracker user is the info provider. At the very least he should call out if the room ahead is empty or absolutely packed with gazzilion bio signatures.

gilded igloo
#

Bot runs.

You mean how I've played for years?

rose nova
#

i mean u were just, cague as fuck sayin 'bio cringe' and thats it ksmdkm
but i kinda get it, but still doesnt mean its like necessarily bad

quasi pine
#

Hackett never misses a shot though 😎

gilded igloo
rose nova
rose nova
quasi pine
#

I’ve seen every enemy up until the giant mother

gilded igloo
rose nova
#

well maybs u can predict some tank spawns or mom spawns by bio duty

quasi pine
gilded igloo
#

A nice lady 🙂

rose nova
#

a bitch

quasi pine
#

:)

rose nova
#

:3

quasi pine
#

:3

gilded igloo
#

:3

quasi pine
#

I am probably going to throw myself at prisoner efficiency over and over before I move onto later levels

#

Will I lose my mind? probably

rose nova
#

yes

wispy bluff
#

One of major contributions of bio that people don't talk about is that its free

#

Removing one potential customer from tool supply distribution logistics polishes things

#

He doesn't have to be around when someone finds tool and doesn't have to consider himself when finding one either

sharp owl
#

meow

wispy bluff
#

"Oh tool, nice... Where's that sentry asshole"

quasi pine
gilded igloo
#

I go mine deployer

rose nova
#

i go mines

#

nom

velvet atlas
#

i go stupid

gilded igloo
#

Turn a panicky door bust into an opportunity

hybrid cloak
#

Didn't ping all of em so be careful...

quasi pine
#

I eat the fabric of the resource bags

#

nothing goes to waste….

alpine scaffold
#

On which expedition do other enemies start to appear? So far, I've only seen striker, shooter, big striker / shooter and scout

pine root
#

You haven’t finished r1 yet then

rose nova
#

u will get funny enemies on C tier

wispy bluff
wispy bluff
#

Is it the one with 60 HP

pine root
#

? that is r3

wispy bluff
#

huh

pine root
#

supposed to be r5

wispy bluff
#

I don't remember anything interesting in R2, at all.

quasi pine
#

yeah r2 doesn’t really have anything new

pine root
#

It isn’t that big of a deal if it helps you

wispy bluff
#

Unless we're talking about the SCREE

alpine scaffold
quasi pine
#

you get introduced to some new alarm types but that’s it

pine root
#

r2e1 think really hard

wispy bluff
#

Its just normals all over the place no

rose nova
#

for me its funny when people say r2 didnt added shit

#

when it added, so much

distant kraken
#

is there any gamma settings in gtfo?

rose nova
#

i dont believe so
games preset on brightness n stuff

distant kraken
#

hmm

#

i guess i have to abuse my monitor on extra gamma then XD

#

didnt see much in the game that would allow me to adjust that much

rose nova
#

games made so u use ur flashlight or glowsticks or flashlight for dark areas

#

not really settings n stuff

distant kraken
#

12g_sausage well, its bit to dark since i got my pc on the right and a monitor above my main

junior latch
#

unless you got a very dark setup

#

/monitor

visual escarp
#

you can literally spawn the sun if you use Longrange F. >.<

#

especially anoying in fog maps

distant kraken
#

im to lazycatJAM buh

distant kraken
visual escarp
#

i keep telling my crew to turn off the sun cause i can see alot better when its dark >.<

distant kraken
rose nova
#

u can also check out, gtfo vids to see if it is too dark in urs or thats just the game

#

cause ive seen people like get confused when they get told the games like that

distant kraken
#

are photos allowed here?

visual escarp
#

if you can't see shit, its mostly the game making you not see shit , is what i've expierenced in my little time in GTFO

rose nova
distant kraken
#

ahh

wispy bluff
distant kraken
#

well i havent really set up my main monitor yet for these games so dont have a preset that will work better

#

it works fine for like cs2, val, paladins etc etc

#

more lit up areas and more colors XD

wispy bluff
#

Yeah, none of that in this game.

#

Go acquire flashlight

#

Its the only way

distant kraken
#

its just i have no set gamma radiant on it for dark areas it bwetty much become a oled black

visual escarp
#

ihavenofacebutiwillstillscream But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it.

junior latch
#

its kinda supposed to be black in dark areas

distant kraken
#

so like i can barely see the sleepers even being up their ass sniffin only then will i see m XD

wispy bluff
#

The dev giveth, the dev taketh away

rose nova
#

yeah that sounds right

visual escarp
#

yeah thats what the game is about

rose nova
#

thats why glowsticks exists, they dont alert enemies

visual escarp
#

slow-sneak creaping around shining flashlight at the floor

rose nova
#

u can also tap tap ur flashlight

gilded igloo
#

Shit dark, friend.

#

When I was making a video for GTFO, I had to raise the gamma in multiple screens just so things could be SEEN

distant kraken
#

but why the 3D effect on home menu its sooo annoying XDD

rose nova
distant kraken
junior latch
#

thats a thing to learn

distant kraken
junior latch
#

i have flashligzt on most of the time

wicked solstice
#

Yeah there are mods for that effect

visual escarp
#

i also noticed if you keep flashlight at sleepers feet level they won't trigger, Knee height is the breaking point

rose nova
#

u can keep ur flashlight on enemies for short periods of times

wicked solstice
#

Idk which one

visual escarp
#

same with giants

gilded igloo
#

You can flash them a LITTLE bit, they're not that aggressive

rose nova
#

they will start glowin, after a second or so they start throbbin, and then they activate
so u can flash enemies for a while

visual escarp
distant kraken
#

gonna flash em

#

but dont wanna fiddle with mods its to much of a hassle

visual escarp
#

🐾 🔦

distant kraken
#

flash em feets for feetpixx

visual escarp
#

^

distant kraken
rose nova
#

why

lusty river
#

Mfw I don’t wanna install a million mods that fix most bugs in this game 😩

visual escarp
#

this helps me alot to figure out what is front & backside of giants for example

#

in superdark rooms with lots of sleepers & emersion 😄

quasi pine
#

I forgor r2 added the infection

distant kraken
#

hmmm

quasi pine
#

I hate infection

visual escarp
rose nova
#

shower

#

nom nom

distant kraken
#

they are everywhere ngl n sooo annoying to avoid

#

the small sacks that shoots at ya

visual escarp
#

flashlight LR flashlight go brrrr

distant kraken
#

zombieblisters wannabees

lusty river
#

You're gonna love infection even more

#

In later levels

quasi pine
#

Stockholm syndrome

quasi pine
#

how does it get worse

rose nova
#

:D

visual escarp
#

ooooh it can definetly get worse 😄

#

¨¨inserts certain console commands¨¨

gilded igloo
#

Haha I forgot about the "cheats"

rose nova
#

cheatsn't

lusty river
quasi pine
#

puke

rare stone
#

if you get over 100% infection resist for that level your infection will slowly drop if you stay in fog

#

:)

lusty river
visual escarp
#

i think these maps try and teach you not to waste your fog repellers without a second thought, also how to work around maps with disinfection

distant kraken
#

me sadly getting 80fps in game when coming to bigger areas XD sucks but start area be like here take 300fps XD

#

did make a few tweaks in settings but eh

shut vapor
#

80fps is good, it's still within acceptable limits

wicked solstice
distant kraken
distant kraken
rare stone
lusty river
#

🤯

rare stone
wicked solstice
#

I should’ve known lmao

#

Of course Auri would

distant kraken
#

shadow updates per frame very high setting hmm XD not sure if its good or not

rose nova
#

only important, real important setting is shadow quality

#

the rest u can play around

distant kraken
#

shadow quaility

#

got that n shadow resolution on high

#

player shadow off XD cuz who wants that

#

only 4k gamers XD

gilded igloo
#

Just finished R8B2 secondary with all bots. What's this ||kracken|| doing in there?!

distant kraken
#

lookin for a meal

hybrid cloak
distant kraken
#

i wonder does a soundblaster g6 with scout mode count as hearing hacks XDDD

rare stone
distant kraken
rare stone
gilded igloo
#

I dunno what happened at the end, but ||I hope the two teams meet and make out||

hybrid cloak
#

just like how my mom whooped me n my brother even when the other did nothing 🙏

pine root
#

This has to be fan fiction

quartz cape
#

jish

#

the whole game is fiction

#

it didnt really happen

#

you need to wake up

gilded igloo
#

I thought this was a message from the future telling us not to make these mistakes

quartz cape
#

the future should've sent a less buggy message then

pine root
#

How do I wake up

hybrid cloak
#

extensive research on why the pentagon lost 2 trillion $ right before 9/11

boreal yew
quartz cape
#

its been 8 years

rose nova
#

same as hybrids

visual escarp
#

i need someone to convince me to keep using the bat >.<

hybrid cloak
visual escarp
#

charge up so looooooong tho

pine root
#

ngl

hybrid cloak
#

learn half charges n tiny charge for shooters u be fine

visual escarp
#

or people don't attempt learning it in the first place & skip to easier choices

visual escarp
#

i only see ALOT of downsides with hammer i can't see trough it

hybrid cloak
#

being comfortable with hammer will make it easier to transition to other melees

quasi pine
#

if all four players are on the same page of rushing sleepers

#

it’s piss easy to clear a decent sized room with hammers

pine root
#

You get punished a bit more

#

If you don’t play at stupid max speed hammer is better

visual escarp
#

also aiming at the ground for a bowing sleeper while moving hammer has bigger chance of hitting the ground due to downwards arc i feel like (friend had it happen couple times) + so many more downsides

pine root
#

That isn’t a downside if you understand melee

#

Btw

visual escarp
#

stagger nerf, long charge up, losing stamina faster, TTK in groups

pine root
#

Stagger nerf is the only thing to really consider

burnt flume
#

no matter which melee

visual escarp
#

ps. i know i might be wrong, just trying to argument some stuff

#

i'm not 100% sure about yaknow

pine root
latent palm
#

U know what i hate more

#

Nightmares

pine root
#

Ur self

latent palm
pine root
gilded igloo
#

I mean, as far as I can tell, there isn't one "perfect" weapon.

Hammer has existed for the longest time, so most people are comfy with it. Every other one (except spear) has its use cases.

pine root
#

Even spear does

#

If you are Uber slow in stealth spear is good because it will speed you up

gilded igloo
#

True, but it's like, a pure stealth weapon, yeah?

visual escarp
#

its funny to see people pick multiple melee's but all agree on shitting on spear xDD

pine root
#

But it plays differently than hammer

#

You aren’t suppose to run forward seems like you want to poke around corners then retreat to the next corner and so on

#

It’s only real issue rn is spear sprint is very inefficient use of stam

#

But if you can blackhop on max stam who cares

visual escarp
rare stone
pine root
pine root
gilded igloo
rare stone
visual escarp
serene jewel
#

I just full charge them anyway to be sure

gilded igloo
#

From weapon to weapon, it's different.

pine root
hybrid cloak
# visual escarp can someone elaborate?

hammer does 20 dmg with a full charge
half charge does 10 dmg but if u hit the head of a striker or the back u get a 2x multiplier

shooters have a 5x multiplier for the head needs 1/4th charge
and 10x for the back of the head so a very lil charge

pine root
#

even with a tap

serene jewel
#

oh I thought you meant chargers, not regular sleepers

pine root
#

It is cubic

#

Remember

serene jewel
#

yeah you can basically tap occiputs

#

and partially charge headshots

#

for hammer anyway

pine root
visual escarp
#

so contradicting information

pine root
#

No anything they are typing that isn’t me is close to being correct but wrong

visual escarp
#

^ okay

pine root
#

The growth is cubic

pine root
#

So half != 50%

visual escarp
#

so does anyone have any clear information ? xDD

pine root
rare stone
hybrid cloak
pine root
pine root
visual escarp
#

JisH, could i ask you what you think of the bat in general then since you got the most info aparently

gilded igloo
#

Half damage is around 4/5th charge then?

visual escarp
#

cause i don't wanna keep lying to myself about how good it is, since so many people steer me away from it

pine root
gilded igloo
#

Bat IS good

#

So is hammer and knife. It's about preference.

visual escarp
#

^ thanks guys, elaborate 😄

pine root
#

I just don’t like the hitbox

visual escarp
#

cause of the diagonal swing?

pine root
#

It is stubby and short compared to to the hammer

#

It doesn’t linger as long

visual escarp
#

true, but very forgiving when missing since it staggers hard

pine root
#

Unless it is a light tap

rare stone
#

hammer users when they accidentally hit the ceiling when they go for the scout

visual escarp
#

i had this happen to a friend trying to get a giant underneath staircase

#

kept bonking the stairs

pine root
gilded igloo
#

Hammer can partial tap enemies, and has good range. It can kill lots of stuff from full.

Bat can stagger like a mofo, but takes a full tap more often than not to kill. Not a great range either.

Knife is super super fast. But you need to hit weakpoints, and it has no range.

pine root
#

So it is probs a wash

rare stone
pine root
rare stone
#

by a slight margin

gilded igloo
rare stone
#

just very slightly

visual escarp
#

thats what i thought

pine root
#

He is correct bat be werid

gilded igloo
#

That's so silly

visual escarp
#

this what i kept thinking.. but people say i'm wrong

pine root
gilded igloo
#

So it's more like.
Hammer is hammer.
Bat is short range hammer with great stagger profile and limited range.
Knife is a crit hitter.

visual escarp
#

i feel like bat is a lighter version of hammer with more failsafe's on missing a particular spot due to stagger

wraith marsh
visual escarp
#

more forgiving

wraith marsh
#

its similar in all the ways that matter

pine root
rare stone
#

knife is great for solo'ing giants in stealth imo

wraith marsh
#

(so basically just tap damage)

quasi pine
#

it’s hammer time

pine root
wraith marsh
#

ye

pine root
#

And bat has a good max out not ideal 15 but good enough to work

visual escarp
#

well yes you do more damage with hammer, but you'll get slapped more in return due to stagger nerf and you'll run out of breath clearing a room

wraith marsh
#

15?

rare stone
#

stagger nerf was needed

gilded igloo
pine root
# wraith marsh 15?

If you do 15 you get good giant charger charger scout bat doesn’t do that

visual escarp
#

i believe since 80% of the community clinged to 1 weapon

rare stone
#

I'm always calm

wraith marsh
#

ah

visual escarp
pine root
wraith marsh
#

I still wish they just didnt touch hammer

pine root
#

Yeah probs a tad late

wraith marsh
#

games dead, and it didnt make it any funner

pine root
#

XD

visual escarp
#

so people just got too comfortable with it to switch out?

pine root
#

Essentially

gilded igloo
#

Kinda. It was just hammer for like... more than half the game.

visual escarp
#

aaah i get it

#

Alright thanks yall imma stick to Bat despite what people tell me

gilded igloo
#

We bat enthusiasts have to stay true

visual escarp
#

i do need to find proper info on how bat damage works in the sence of One-taps and partial charges tho

#

is it on the wiki?

#

like "updated info" since most of the content on youtube is 2years old

rare stone
#

didn't they give it the super high stagger when R6 came out?

#

or did it always have it?

wraith marsh
#

it always had it

rare stone
#

ah okay

wraith marsh
#

it was just buffed a little

#

almost insignificantly

wraith marsh
#

most breakpoints you see for hammer will also apply to bat

#

so you can look there too

gilded igloo
#

I just f##k around and find out for later :3

pine root
#

^

visual escarp
#

^ i will try this scientific method

#

back to R1A1 for testing it seems haha

wraith marsh
#

btw jish I tried r6 hammer with 4 tap damage

#

that shit is so fucking strong

#

but it was fun as fuck

pine root
#

Yeah man r6 launch was crazy

wraith marsh
#

4 tap damage is crazier tbh

#

occi tap, giant no scream is free

#

pretty much all general gameplay if you arent full charging is a lot more lenient

pine root
#

Yes crazy I really hope bat get 3.4 light damage

#

Would be so massive

serene jewel
#

I played knife at first then realized it was useless vs giants so I went hammer and never looked back

latent palm
#

Come that by me again?

#

No scream solo?

wraith marsh
#

yea

#

4 tap damage makes it scale to 7.5 a decent bit quicker

latent palm
#

Oh about the stagger stack

wraith marsh
#

also lets you tap the limb if you fuck up the charge or back damage and pretty much always break it

latent palm
#

Still get time on that little charge im guessing

wraith marsh
#

you could probably double tap each limb to death but charging is more satisfying

latent palm
#

Could get punch if too slow on that ig

gilded igloo
#

Charging feels good. I like when I feel good.

latent palm
#

Its best to right click then hold left click

gilded igloo
#

On biggins?

pine root
latent palm
#

Sure why not lmao

pine root
#

Btw

wraith marsh
#

perhaps

latent palm
wraith marsh
#

if anyone even gets on the game anymore lol

pine root
#

Na

latent palm
#

That works

pine root
#

You just light tap

serene jewel
#

btw how long does it take to kill a tank with melee

latent palm
#

Hmmm

serene jewel
#

assuming full team

latent palm
serene jewel
#

assume you cfoam it

#

I don't even know how many blobs that needs

latent palm
#

Physically its almost impossible to fight tanks in fog such as R4E1 where the fog is high

pine root
serene jewel
#

damn

latent palm
pine root
#

?

latent palm
#

You dont?

pine root
#

Wdym you don’t need to hit all the tumors

#

You just need to do 1000 damage to it

gilded igloo
#

They mean 17 hits with no misses

latent palm
#

To me they blew up so quickly

pine root
latent palm
#

So i cant reach the ones that are high up

pine root
#

Yeah but you don’t need to

latent palm
#

True

pine root
#

client behaves with tank differently than host

#

So you can do more damage to tank as client

latent palm
sharp owl
#

hi guys :3

latent palm
#

Literally today on duo run with a pub guy

gilded igloo
#

Wassup schiz

latent palm
vernal nebula
sharp owl
vernal nebula
#

Or just one c-foam tripmine since that works for every enemy, there's some on R4C1 with 1 tank

rare stone
latent palm
#

@pine root tried mushrooms randomized title set for a lot of levels around

rare stone
#

it's actually really good against giants now (as long as you stay behind them)

latent palm
#

And it really cheeses alllot

#

And i mean alot of levels

#

Mostly levels with generator clusters

pine root
#

Yeah when the obj doesn’t spawn

latent palm
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Cause they dont spawn in

pine root
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The level just auto completes

latent palm
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Meaning that the obj get auto complete

pine root
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Nothing we can do about it

latent palm
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R8A1 gets softlocks lmao

latent palm
latent palm
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It makes R8 floodways titlesets

pine root
latent palm
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3x bigger

hybrid cloak
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whats the difference between mushroom seed mod and zone randomizer mod