gtfo-chat

[junior latch]

man theres been worse things before

[vestal crystal]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

[rose nova]

my guess its the ||pmom in a2||, which is a bit different had some sort of similarity to ||r5d1 pmom|| like id or idk somethin, so it spawned both

[kindred mural]

What could possibly be worse than 2 P-moms?

[rose nova]

nevermind

i was wrong

[rose nova]

2 r8d2 ||mega moms|| :D

[junior latch]

did you clear r7e1?

[kindred mural]

Yeah

[kindred mural]

[junior latch]

enemies not dying after teleporting back

[kindred mural]

Heard about that one but they all had like 1 HP or something right?

[hybrid cloak]

i thought we are still on the smg hate bandwagon

[rose nova]

dont u like give one bullet to em and they die

[junior latch]

are you still in like alt r5?

[untold ravine]

that's just unjustified murder. those things have rights too ya know

[hybrid cloak]

i havent looked much at stats tbh

[junior latch]

look at patches at least

[kindred mural]

They have the right to die

[junior latch]

like, people still bashed sawed off even after the buff to 4 bullets

when it was already rly good at 3 bullets after all its prior buffs

anyhow
2 pmoms isnt "that bad"

its just it being near the end of r5d1 which makes it ass

spawn a 2nd one in r3d1 and it would be fun

[shut vapor]

I bash Sawed off because how are you fitting 4 bullets in there

[hybrid cloak]

i was one of those but now i use it almost every run

[junior latch]

nono
that makes sense to bash the change

but people still thought/said it was bad

i was a sawed off supporter since the range buff

[kindred mural]

What are the odds of 20 runs having two of them?

[hybrid cloak]

@mental forum u still need r1c1?

[hybrid cloak]

maybe 4 scatter guns can do it

[junior latch]

2 people wave clearing and 1 scatter is enough

[mental forum]

nupe i did it also it turns outit was r1c2 lol but i do need help in clearing the last level in r1!

[burnt flume]

why would you ever take 4 scatterguns

[hybrid cloak]

why not

[hybrid cloak]

sure

[junior latch]

i dunno about 4
but i still think 3 is the play for r8a2sec speeds

[burnt flume]

idk if i was running that level probably take 1 scatter, maybe 1 burst cannon, and then some waveclear

well, speedrunning does bend the rules of the game quite frequently

[junior latch]

true

triple mine deployer r3a2

was based af

especially when 4th tool was foam

[kindred mural]

4 scatterguns & 4 hel shotguns

[mental forum]

Hurray! Then in like 15 minutes kk?

[hybrid cloak]

alright

[hybrid cloak]

yes that will do it 30min give or take

[kindred mural]

How about giving me a rocket launcher

[junior latch]

you can get a rocket launcher

but no rockets

[kindred mural]

Or even better

I want a flamethrower

[junior latch]

gonna be as good as in og dead space

so it absolutely sucks vs everything but babies

[strong terrace]

Flamethrower is the perfect weapon for when you want to cut everyone's framerate in half

Framethrower

[hybrid cloak]

just like the disinfect station

yum

[kindred mural]

Hans get ze flammenwerfer

[junior latch]

i dont rly understand why its "ze"

[rose nova]

reminds me of a story of my fav band when they got on a car crash and imagined a band called the six american boys, who are german and their single is 'farts out ze window'

[quartz cape]

tjoma balls

[thick epoch]

folks remind me again

whats in r4c1?

[rose nova]

first tank

[burnt flume]

some alarms, some blood doors, charger zone to grab bulkhead key, 12 code uplink in extreme

[thick epoch]

i see

[latent palm]

@kindred mural balls

[rare stone]

because all germans have a super heavy accent

obviously

(tbf most of them do)

[junior latch]

tbh i just heard te more than ze

[rare stone]

true

[glacial anvil]

Lfg is so dead rn 😭

Cant find anyone

[lusty river]

[outer lantern]

Because Germans can’t say th

Or something

[primal belfry]

*some

[ripe void]

somezing

[sharp owl]

I found the issue

with the funny lag

the new and exciting™️ update from AMD gave me frame generation

and it was enabled by default, so it bugged the heck out of my game

with one click it is good now

where is zone 765 on r2b4

weve been lookinjg around the entire fogged area for liek 15 minutes

765 is nowhere

and all the doors say leads to 765

nevermind

[civic gorge]

Looking for 1-3 beginners who wish to play thru the whole game because matchmaking is awful
currently on r2d1
add me if interested

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[lost lynx]

lfg moment

[upper tinsel]

that would probably be because the main method of getting lobbies is discord lfg

[sharp owl]

any thoughts on the hel auto pistol good bad or garbage?

[burnt flume]

good

[lost lynx]

good

very good

[burnt flume]

high stagger, good damage, good ammo capacity

[sharp owl]

nice do you reccomend to any specific secondary or can i choose what i please

[lost lynx]

whatever you please tbh

but i like to combine hel pistol with choke mod

[sharp owl]

something thats good for bigs

i love the precision rifle that a good option?

good enough

at the end of the day optimal weapon selection depends entirely on what level ur playing

[boreal yew]

Especially secondary weapon, most main weapons are versatile, but half of the secondary weapons are specific

[junior latch]

what level, what you are comfortable with
what your job is in that level (aka what the level has and what your team brings)

the worst bring are just generally bad specials

like sniper and short rifle

[lost lynx]

honestly i feel like hel pistol + choke mod works for almost anything

[sharp owl]

Me and my friend are in Rundown 2 Im using C foam and for ym special I like using the Precision rifle

[boreal yew]

When playing blind, it is a safe choice to balance your team's secodary weapons

[sharp owl]

is ??? on rundown 2 meant to have a never ending alarm

yes :3c

also just refer to levels as their letter number name cos 90% of the time ppl wont know what ur on about

so r2c2

extremely stupid to have a id search level with a never ending alarmr

makes no sense

oh boy

you're gonna enjoy the rest of the rundowns

[wraith marsh]

how does that not make sense

[sharp owl]

having to search for items in a never ending alarm

itd mkake sense if it was a clear a path

just search faster silly

use terminals

[wraith marsh]

that is what pressure is (a very good feature of games)

[sharp owl]

shoot enemy

[sharp owl]

thoughts on r8e2 pressure?

[wraith marsh]

it coudlve been worse

[sharp owl]

timer hit 0 during last scans

very poggers

[wraith marsh]

thats how it should be

tbh

[sharp owl]

there was alot of room to improve so I'd imagine you can just like avoid that lol

[wraith marsh]

yea

[sharp owl]

is there even anytihng when you finish the game or do you just extract and boom there was the final level

like a reward?

[wraith marsh]

I mean, the game has an ending if thats what you mean

[sharp owl]

yeah there's that

[sharp owl]

like a cutscene or just yay you beat the final level

[burnt flume]

there is no newgame+

[wraith marsh]

its not exactly a cutscene

game doesnt have cinematics

climax -> dialogue -> fade to black

[sharp owl]

you will feel more than "yay" when u beat the final level

id imagine its a bad ending

[thick temple]

idk why you would expect some sort of cutscene, or anything more than just, finishing the level

[wraith marsh]

ok bro

[sharp owl]

by bad ending i mean your not free

not poorly written

[wraith marsh]

lol

[rose nova]

the actual like story its spoils so

but generally in missions which arent lore heavy and are just gameplay yes its just a win screen

u cut to 'expedition survived' u get ur clothes and to the next

andd then the very special missions have other things other screens etc etc

[sharp owl]

oh thats cool

ive recently just got the game and only have gotten the standard expediton survived

didnt know they actually had different end screens

if you had to give a ballpark estimate how many levels start with a never ending alarm

[wispy bluff]

Welcome to devs' favorite gimmicks, prepare to see lots more of it

[lost lynx]

error alarms7

the funny alarms

like 1/3 of the game has errors

prob more

[wraith marsh]

not a lot of them start with it

[rose nova]

not every level ends on one

[wraith marsh]

but a LOT of them have it in them

[sharp owl]

Thank god

[rose nova]

sometimes its a twist like u can turn it off it stars on another place etc etc

it has ways around it

[sharp owl]

i dotn care if on your way to exfil theres a perma alarm id be more annoyed with one that starts with a perm alarm and never ends

The game would get very boring without time presure

[rose nova]

its, fun lol

but u will see it

it is like balanced of course

[wraith marsh]

if you have the idea that this is a quiet stealth game in your mind, that will change quickly as you progress

[rose nova]

its not the exact same as an exfil one

[sharp owl]

im sure its fun but i quite possibly brought the worst kit possible for perm alarm

[gaunt lichen]

you can find objectives pretty well with just the terminal

and the alarm thing is well... I'm sure most have played l4d2

[sharp owl]

there was a keycard door and i queryed the zone it was in and my team spent 10 minutes looking in the wrong directions

[lost lynx]

PING it

easy

[sharp owl]

if only you could ping zones or doors or maybe you can i just dont know how to

[rose nova]

well u can always change it
this game isnt really a 'this my fav gun ill use it forever', its more of a 'this level its this way, lets bring according guns to it'

[gaunt lichen]

You can ping keys

[rose nova]

also doors tell u what zone they lead to, always

[sharp owl]

i know that much

[unreal crystal]

for finishing the final level?

what

[rose nova]

no, for every level

i think

[unreal crystal]

for every level thats different

but if its in reference to final level then idk i think its fair to expect smth a bit different

[thick temple]

yeah??
in gtfo of all things? expecting anything fancy for beating even the last level just seems like wishful thinking
if there's something cool at the end of r8 then neat, i haven't done it yet
but expecting it in this game, where every experience is completely separate from each other aside from a bit of connected story, just seems like setting yourself up for disappointment

[sharp owl]

yeah i just wish it gave you more info on what your facing because all of bringing guns according to it requires either dying in it or it really being an reactor level

[unreal crystal]

can u expect a new player who doesnt know the history of this game to know that tho

[lost lynx]

thats the GTFO magic

you dont know what you are getting into until you die

[rose nova]

yeah, part of the fun its goin in, and just tryin shit

[lost lynx]

go to a level, die, repeat

[rose nova]

and then seein what works next time

[unreal crystal]

its different if someone who has been around for a while still holds onto those kinda expectations, but if its someone who is new and doesnt know that then

[sharp owl]

frankly i dont care if im a prisoner if you want your work done how about tell me more of what im getting into before you have to replace me and thousands of others

[thick temple]

considering how segmented the game is and LACKING IN STORY everything up through r2c2 is, yeah i think i can expect them to have picked it up by then

[gaunt lichen]

the expedition intel do give vague hints like large biomass or air filtration busted, that sorta thing. But ye, I'm not a huge fan of meta gaming either.

[solar crown]

the hydrostasis helps with morale by making you forget how much it sucked every time

hero shit right there

[unreal crystal]

i think u can make an exception for the final level anyway, final thing theyre supposed to do, ofc people will hold those expectations, because its the final level

i dont think its insane of people to have that expectation even if the game never provided anything like that before

maybe its wishful thinking but being like

WOW YOU THOUGHT U WOULD GET SMTH IN THE FINAL LEVEL LOL LOL LOL

its kinda funny

[solar crown]

do we get a new backpack

[lost lynx]

at least we have a final level

LOL

[solar crown]

i like the backpack with a plant in it

[unreal crystal]

no

[solar crown]

it's cool

aww

[unreal crystal]

you get a big gold star from me

i guess

[solar crown]

OH SHIT

THANKS

that's the good shit.

[thick temple]

tbh for me anything grandiose would just seem really out of place in this game

[vernal nebula]

Is the Zone 160 ||R8B4|| log bugged for anyone else?

[unreal crystal]

i dont think a cinematic or anything is rlly grandiose

[junior latch]

if its just errors (in any way) that arent just an alarm

then thats

„61“ errors out of 83 levels

[lost lynx]

no

[sharp owl]

an error alarm is a perm alarm right

[hybrid cloak]

Not necessarily

[vernal nebula]

Oh I'm a fucking idiot it's O not 0

lmao

[lost lynx]

not really

[sharp owl]

they can often be turned off

[lost lynx]

some errors can be turned off in some levels

[gaunt lichen]

...Running around in a multi-billion dollar facilities with biometric security systems and shooting hordes isn't grandiose?

[sharp owl]

like via terminal or some side objective?

[junior latch]

also a lot of error alarms i counted are simply extraction alarms

[lost lynx]

it depends on the level

[sharp owl]

thank god

[hybrid cloak]

Yeah or completing the objective

[junior latch]

say r1 has errors (as in extract alarms) in a1, b2, c1 and d1

[sharp owl]

yeah that

[thick temple]

considering that's every level, no?

[lost lynx]

in some levels we go to a funny place

[sharp owl]

do you guys reccomend beating non mandatory levels like the ones where to progress to a new mission arent required

[lost lynx]

[sharp owl]

r2 has 3 of those non mandatory levels

[junior latch]

Tbh ye i wouldve loved a cinematic for the ending

cinematics are a lot of work tho (if done well) and

[lost lynx]

you need to do every level to unlock E tier

or you can just simply ask someone else to get you on the level

[sharp owl]

is e tier the final mission in a rundown?

[gaunt lichen]

Nah screw cinematic, give me frames

[junior latch]

Wdym „non mandatory“ lol

[lost lynx]

some rundowns

not all of them have E tiers

[vernal nebula]

Yep

[lost lynx]

like R1,R3 and R6

[unreal crystal]

he means levels where u dont have to bring shotgun

mandatory gun

[junior latch]

beth living in 2023

Short rifle is the new mandatory gun

[sharp owl]

theres missions that dont unlock other missions

[vernal nebula]

R8 makes up for it haha

[lost lynx]

||R8E2|| is wild

[vernal nebula]

Looking forward to it, 2 levels away

[junior latch]

theres way more than 3 then

[vernal nebula]

*1 actually

[lost lynx]

good luck

[hybrid cloak]

More gameplay basically

[junior latch]

but as said. All are technically mandatory due to e1

[junior latch]

And since those missions are just the same story wise and introduce new stuff they are just as „mandatory“

[trim sail]

i think e2 is the only level that has mandatory secondary

[quartz cape]

every secondary is mandatory

except r5b1

[hybrid cloak]

Yessir

[hybrid cloak]

Why that lvl

I think its reasonable

[sharp owl]

what even are secondarys and whats the point of them do you get extra cosmetics for doing it or bragging rights

[lost lynx]

you only get flexing rights

you used to get cosmetics in the past

but not anymore

[sharp owl]

i see the devs of this game really have it out for the players then

[quartz cape]

it makes my brain matter decay

and me fall asleep

[sharp owl]

i dont see myself attempting to do a secondary let alone a damn overload

[lost lynx]

its fun

trust

:D

[hybrid cloak]

People with the attention span of a 3 yo

[quartz cape]

do you think its an interesting secondary?

[sharp owl]

me and my friend got through 3 levels today i know im on an early rundown but is that a good pace per day wise?

[hybrid cloak]

Not by a long shot but it could have been nicer

[lost lynx]

totally yeah

wait until later when you do 1 level every 2-3 days

LOL

[sharp owl]

yeah that sure sounds fun

my one friend def wasted money on this game then

2 of my other friends bought it

1 with the patience of like a ipad kid

and the otehr is normal

my one friend refuses to play for the rest of the night if we lsoe once

[hybrid cloak]

Me n Eggman were stuck on r4b3pe for a week cuz we kept clowning halfway through

[sharp owl]

when does the game take a massive ramp up in difficulty?

when cna i expect to get my ego crushed

[quartz cape]

rundown 4

[lusty river]

I need my minecraft parkour playing in the background

[hybrid cloak]

Just to get to ovl n finish it is a whole hike

[sharp owl]

so first 3 rundowns are just baby and fromt hen on its multiple days per level im guessing lol

[junior latch]

If you wanna avoid fun then avoid the optionals

[lusty river]

Rundown order does not act as increasing difficulty 🗣️

[sharp owl]

are secondarys just the same as a normal level but inside a level

and what are overloads

[quartz cape]

depends on the level, but rundowns 4 and 5 are noticably more difficult than precious ones

r6 is easy mode tho

[junior latch]

both are optional objectives you do aside the main objective (this is slightly different in 3 r8 levels)

[hybrid cloak]

Kinda but not quite

[junior latch]

R2 already has some tough stuff btw @sharp owl n r2e1 specifically

[lost lynx]

R4

[junior latch]

generally its smth like

[lusty river]

R2E1 p*b 😨

[junior latch]

R5>R4>R7>R6/R2>R3>>R1

dunno where id rank R8 yet. Probably around R5

[lost lynx]

R5>R8?

[junior latch]

not sure yet honestly

[lost lynx]

R8 only has like 3 hard levels

😔

[junior latch]

R5 has like 2

then a lot of middling stuff thats tedious

[sharp owl]

wait so overloads are just secondarys but they ahve a funny name

[junior latch]

kinda

[lusty river]

R5 is hard when the game doesn’t load the level properly 😏

[lost lynx]

and they are more funny overall

[junior latch]

If you do both overload and secondary in a run then you did a PE (prisoner efficiency)

[sharp owl]

oh so prisoner efficeny isnt another thing

[lusty river]

Overload changes the level by a lot, secondary can do the same but not often and not as severe

[lost lynx]

PE is doing sec and overload in the same run

[coarse grail]

Hi! Long time lurker first time chatter 🙂 me and my team have been playing r8d2 and r8b4 and reloading from checkpoints there has been very fucky wucky to the point of softlocking. Is this commonplace atm or do I have pretty bad async? Thanks!

[rose nova]

have u tried dyin

[junior latch]

Wdym first time chatter

[hybrid cloak]

Checkpoints bad

[rose nova]

yeah i never seen em before

[sharp owl]

he means hes been here for awhile but never like tlaked

[rose nova]

i dont recognize their pfp at all

i mean

[junior latch]

no i mean ellda is cappin

[rose nova]

nahhh

whos ellda

[junior latch]

alsooo holy shit

mrmrmr

[coarse grail]

Have you guys had this issue?

[junior latch]

Thats a ton of mr

[quartz cape]

bros got 16k messages

[rose nova]

this skill issue?

[coarse grail]

Like my team is good at the game but sometimes we have to use a checkpoint but it softlocks us

[quartz cape]

im level 3 now

[hybrid cloak]

@coarse grail dj is worried you didn't make it home from the pub the other night might wanna drop by him

[junior latch]

idk if ellda is askin a serious question or gaslighting

[sharp owl]

wait you can start elvels from checkpoints?

how

[junior latch]

i know that r8b4 checkpoints are kinda fucked tho

[hybrid cloak]

Only available in r6 7 and 8

[coarse grail]

I hope he is okay 🙏

[junior latch]

specific levels in r6/7/8 have checkpoints

They are prone to breaking and only allow you to restart in that run. So no quitting and coming back

[sharp owl]

because the levels are super long?

[junior latch]

And r1a1

[junior latch]

No

they got added with full release

[sharp owl]

oh so just a new feature

[coarse grail]

Idk just the 2 levels I mentioned seemed esp bad

[junior latch]

and because they are very very prone to glitch out

[hybrid cloak]

No because game needs to be scaled Down for casuals
Not lot of sweats

[junior latch]

they didnt get added to alts aside from r1a1

[coarse grail]

I guess r8d2 is rough cos it doesn't give clients much time to catch up to host

[junior latch]

honestly most r6-8 levels are way shorter than r4 and r5

[hybrid cloak]

Worst I've had is someone getting stuck behind and not able to fight the big mommy and r8b4 cfoam go through door

[winged gull]

hey

[coarse grail]

We tried host switching and it wouldn't let us rejoin

[hybrid cloak]

Hi

[lusty river]

Fun level tho

[coarse grail]

On b4 we had unable to insert bulkhead key

[hybrid cloak]

Oof

Were you playing on Tuesday or something

[winged gull]

someone hos looking for a shitty parter team

[hybrid cloak]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[coarse grail]

It... Is possible, I can't be certain

[hybrid cloak]

Here ya go

[coarse grail]

I feel like it's been esp bad in general on r8 is all, idk if other people have been feeling it like that

[hybrid cloak]

No major breakpoints here but I've only pubbed r8 for bout 8 hrs

[coarse grail]

Okay thanks for all your help chatters

We will persevere!

[sharp owl]

Dmr has that devilish shooter rizz

[quartz cape]

what did you mean by this

[sharp owl]

So comfy

Shooting shooters in their dumbass head

So they don't bother you

[quartz cape]

but you cant

because dmr has 0 bullets

very sad

[lusty river]

“Limited ammo capacity”

[hybrid cloak]

🍑

[sharp owl]

(very sad)

It's just great

Revenge

The non centered crosshair is ridiculous

It's a couple pixels off to the right

[lusty river]

Slug shotgun description “Pump Action” but has no pump animation

Devs are too real for that

[sharp owl]

I asked calle if it was intentional

[sharp owl]

at 100% ammo dmr has roughly 7 rounds

[quartz cape]

4 whole kills!!!!!1!

[sharp owl]

Man

Every time

im a double tap rifle enjoyer

suffering from lack of ammo

Yea me too

[quartz cape]

dtr gets enough ammo

[sharp owl]

I have teammates tho

[rose nova]

was it

[burnt flume]

lack of ammo = lack of accuracy

[sharp owl]

my main few weapons are carbine dtp hel shotty and heavy smg

[sharp owl]

devides by 2

[quartz cape]

you have to hit both bullets

[sharp owl]

I don't know he never answered me

[quartz cape]

otherwise you will run out of ammo

[rose nova]

a

[sharp owl]

the dtp rifles recoil is akward but i fairly used to it

He's ignoring my rightful questions

Anyway dmr good

Great weapon to stop shooters from being annoying little shits

I see myself running it more in the future

Especially with a knife so i can just decapitate a bunch if sleepers and then be a shef

[burnt flume]

the solo player mindset has finally consumed elbowguard

[sharp owl]

bat users rise up

[sharp owl]

I would

never

Use dmr on a solo run

[quartz cape]

thats the only place its good

[sharp owl]

You need to download an aim trainer

anybody else use the bat

[quartz cape]

no

[sharp owl]

Yes i did today

It was awful

Just grab a knife

[sharp owl]

maybe your awful?

[burnt flume]

bat sucks

[sharp owl]

No

perma stun

Like minmax

[quartz cape]

maybe get an aim trainer?

[sharp owl]

more range then knife

perma stun

It's either one or the other

fast charge

Either you go sledge or knife

hell you cna solo a giant with a bat

Not bat

[quartz cape]

id rather bat than knife

[sharp owl]

You can solo a giant with anything

[burnt flume]

it's just a bastard child between knife and hammer where you avoid getting licked by 1 sleeper because of the stagger multi but get hit by another because the hitbox is somehow more unwieldy than knife

[quartz cape]

kife players be like "yo lemme get the occi"

[sharp owl]

uhhhh no but ok?

[burnt flume]

or maybe I've played too much knife and not enough bat and both of the hitboxes suck fuckin balls

[sharp owl]

Mountain man have u heard of this concept called headshots

[hybrid cloak]

Just take hammer
Its good

[quartz cape]

yes

[sharp owl]

Where you can just instakill everything

Ok then shut up

[sharp owl]

bat

[quartz cape]

this works with every melee dumbass

[sharp owl]

Respectfully

Then why'd you say knife users

[quartz cape]

and bat actually gets to play the game when there are giants, chargers, nightmares, etc

[sharp owl]

bat is just knife with added benefits

knife only has a faster chargeup

thats it

overload?

[grizzled bison]

[sharp owl]

Knife is usable in a panic during a wave

Bat isn't

explain how

[quartz cape]

???

[gilded igloo]

You can stab heads

[sharp owl]

Slower and harder to hit the head

if anything slede is worse during a panic

long charge and all that

[grizzled bison]

maybe you need an aim trainer

[sharp owl]

Sledge is best

[grizzled bison]

kovaaks?

[sharp owl]

i dont think you realise

completely uncharged bat

stun

[burnt flume]

bat sucks because the people who use it are fanatic lunatics

[sharp owl]

Maybe the devs need to make hitboxes that aren't trash

[gaunt lichen]

Clearly its because they're a Londoner

[grizzled bison]

they work fine for me

[sharp owl]

(respectfully)

[sharp owl]

kovaak peacekeepah

No they don't

[grizzled bison]

they don't work fine for me?

[sharp owl]

No

[quartz cape]

all my hits go in the box

i dont see what the big deal is

[grizzled bison]

they are actually a bunch of pills

[gilded igloo]

"I will tell you if they work fine, not you"

[sharp owl]

We're playing the same version

[sharp owl]

its a magical thing called wait for the circle to get smaller 🤯

[grizzled bison]

do they work fine

[quartz cape]

ok do they work fine?

[sharp owl]

I can hit a wall behind me while i look 60 degrees away from it

I can hit the fucking floor

While standing up

[quartz cape]

the pills overlapped

[gilded igloo]

I dunnuh

[quartz cape]

big mistake

[grizzled bison]

do you need the wii remote instructions

you can hit things behind you by accident

do you not know how objects work

[sharp owl]

What do you think

[grizzled bison]

let me get you a reference image

[sharp owl]

When i stab forward do i make contact with the wall behind me usually

Or the floor

[burnt flume]

chilldude r2e1 crib zone 596 area b scout slam knife kill clip.mp4

[sharp owl]

Yeah i know

Just ridiculous nonsense

Broken as shit

[hybrid cloak]

Hammer had that before r8 but it still rocks

[sharp owl]

But it's fine somehow

do the levels ever become different then just facility

[gilded igloo]

definitely

[quartz cape]

yes

[sharp owl]

like outside or maybe overun with shrub

[formal ember]

alright whose idea was it to add 2 p-moms in one room that instant alert at the end of r5d1 secondary

[gilded igloo]

Keep playing mate, you'll see, but there's definitely a lot more than just the compound

[sharp owl]

also ive been wondering is there a alternate mode of going into a mission besides cagedrop?

or is it always a cage drop

[burnt flume]

it's a known bug that's being targeted with a patch

[gilded igloo]

Always cage drop. There's a lore reason for it, but that's blahblahblah

[sharp owl]

whats the lore of it because everything is techniquelly in the facility?

[formal ember]

thats a BUG? lmao

[gilded igloo]

Well, all of us "prisoners" are in Hydrostasis units, which are a part of ||Kovak(?)'s security systems||. We're in that system, for various reasons for each of the characters.

(feel free to correct if I'm wrong)

Think of it like a collection of people in cold storage, ready to be pulled before they're needed. That's us. Quite literally getting pulled from mission start

[sharp owl]

oh wait your a different prisoner every mission?

[hybrid cloak]

Prisoner of the warden you do his bidding and you get to live another day

[gilded igloo]

Well no. I mean Dauda, Woods, Hackeysack and Bishop are all there for different reasons.

[sharp owl]

so techniquelly your always duada woods hackeysack and bishop every mission?

[hybrid cloak]

Yes

[sharp owl]

damn that crazy so they all went through all 8 rundowns witohut dying every single level

[hybrid cloak]

Yes

[true pilot]

h a c k e y s a c k?????

[gilded igloo]

Yeah fr. In canon, they never lose

[hybrid cloak]

Elite class of prisoners

[true pilot]

we are just gamers

[gilded igloo]

He's my special guy

[sharp owl]

bro who were they before imprisonment navy seal sas red cell agents?

[hybrid cloak]

We done gamed hard

[true pilot]

a mass shooter, a black mailer, a merc who killed 20 civs, and a crazy scientist

funny bunch

[sharp owl]

im gonna guess by personality who was each

im guessing hackeysack was the mass shooter

[true pilot]

no

[gilded igloo]

Don't correct him yet

Let him guess all of them

[true pilot]

yeah

im not

[sharp owl]

hackeysack was a crazy scientist

[true pilot]

nope

50/50 now

you got this surely

[sharp owl]

hackeysack was a merc

[true pilot]

yes

[gilded igloo]

bingo

[hybrid cloak]

Woods was a retired marine who lost it
Dauda was a scientist the kind that has no remorse
Hackett a serial killer
Bishop black mailed the big club

[sharp owl]

bishop was a black mailer

[true pilot]

noooooo

[true pilot]

yup

[sharp owl]

i lvoe bishopp

i think i play as him

[hybrid cloak]

Purple 4th slot

[sharp owl]

bishop is the 4th?

[hybrid cloak]

But woods is the best hands down

[gilded igloo]

Woods 1, Dauda 2, Hackett 3, Bishop 4

[sharp owl]

oh then im woods

im always host

[gilded igloo]

I like Bishop. Bot Bishop says funny shit when you give him the biotracker

[sharp owl]

hackett has the bio scanner on my team

he says hands off cocks

were already dead acoording to the scanner

[gilded igloo]

Bishop sings when things get really bad

[sharp owl]

wait is teh guy with bionic arms and legs?

who is that one

with the robot hand

[burnt flume]

No-one

[gilded igloo]

That may just be a skin someone used in your game. I also use the false leg

[burnt flume]

Those are just player cosmetics

[sharp owl]

you can change that stuff it hought you can only change gas mask shirts and palletes

[burnt flume]

1 torso has a robot hand, 3 trousers feature replacement legs

[sharp owl]

wait no my characters voice sounds like bishop not woods its confusing

yeha im confused lol

[snow ingot]

I truly don't get stealth man - I see vids of dudes solo running and killing sleepers right next to others and no one wakes up, but my group kills one and one on the other room gets mad

I can deal with being bad at something but not understanding it at all is just frustrating

[sharp owl]

what happened to that djdna guy i havent seen him in ages

[quartz cape]

hope he has a good day 🥰

[sharp owl]

I hope you have a good day

[quartz cape]

hey dont tell anyone

[sharp owl]

sorry

[quartz cape]

i have a reputation to maintain

[sharp owl]

:3

[echo gyro]

NEED ONE FOR R4E1

[sharp owl]

no u dont

trio it

:3

[gusty burrow]

When you kill an enemy, it has a chance to wake up another enemy in LoS if that other enemy is glowing/pulsing. In order to prevent this "long range aggro" players will often:

• Wait until everything is dormant, often by 'syncing' the enemies with their flashlight/movement so they all go dormant at once.
• Kill enemies that have another enemy very close to it. If you stealth kill an enemy in very close proximity to another then that other enemy will "proximity aggro". When an enemy wakes up from proximity aggro it prevents enemeis from waking up due to long range aggro.

The other thing that you can do is kind of just plan for a long range aggro occurring. Immediately start charging your melee after your first kill, and keep moving.

You can also manipulate long range aggro to always aggro enemies that are closer to you, but that's a bit advanced and generally not too useful.

[serene jewel]

Where did the immortal get the pablo nickname

[hybrid cloak]

Someone called it that then people picked it up

[lofty grotto]

Time to try to get that R8A2...

[outer lantern]

jiggle physics mod?

[outer lantern]

iirc pablo is used to descrive the immortal in some file

like, game files. not lore logs

[quartz cape]

this is false

[unreal crystal]

tjoma balls

[rose nova]

pablo was just a nice lil name for the buddy

[outer lantern]

i may be stupid

[rare stone]

you are

I am the CEO of stupid and I confirm this

[lofty grotto]

lol

doubts

[rare stone]

just trust me bro

[lofty grotto]

lol.

Im just resting before I hit R8B3

Finally got past that damn A2

[rare stone]

R8B3 is tough

especially that first scan

[lofty grotto]

Go to spoiler chat

[rare stone]

sorry :/

[lofty grotto]

No need to apologize

I wanna know more about that level but it needs to be in spoiler chat

[mental forum]

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

anyone intrested in R2A1

also im a finally part of the cool guys grouppppp

nuuuu nobody wants to even chatttttttttttttt

[latent palm]

now that you mention it

that man is based

[mystic moss]

so based that he got silenced 😔

[unreal crystal]

nothings been the same since hes been gone...

[latent palm]

i miss him too

but atleast hes happy with his family

[vestal crystal]

I miss LordLuna

😦

[latent palm]

they quit after R4B2 extract TK

[unreal crystal]

its my fault really

i shouldnt have shot and woke up the pmom

[trim sail]

wake up the first area including mom in e2, and i was moved back to the lobby

i miss that guy so much...

[latent palm]

who?

[mental forum]

anyone can recommend mods that dont label me as a cheater but also enhance the game? im looking for like easy of life mods and ones that effect the bots ai lol

dont you love that you always kill the chats with your messages? fun right

[regal mauve]

oh it's the best

I do it all the time

[regal mauve]

if you're looking for stuff like that, you're better off just asking in the gtfo modding server

[mental forum]

where is that my good freind/

?

[gusty burrow]

#hc-modded message

[sharp owl]

Woods
Hackett
Bishop
Dauda

That's how it goes

Woods is obviously the best

[rare stone]

how dare you place Dauda at the bottom

[sharp owl]

we need to find a scaut

Dauda sucks

[rare stone]

you suck

[sharp owl]

He's just a scientist

No training

No experience

He just got into an hsu one day

Bishop is better than him because he's angrier

He has that deep seated hatred inside of him

[rare stone]

I like Dauda because he's mostly calm and polite

and how he feels/felt regretful about the things he's done when he worked for Santonian

[sharp owl]

(literally can't say please)

[rare stone]

well that's on the devs

for not making the voice actor for him say it

[sharp owl]

Well

You see this is a bit silly

[rare stone]

how?

[sharp owl]

He felt sorry only when the consequences of his actions appeared before him

Which doesn't really count in my book

He never felt guilt inside his cozy lab

[rare stone]

well by that logic Woods and Hackett aren't any better

they never even mentioned feeling any remorse

[sharp owl]

Yeah

They're warriors thou

[rare stone]

Bishop's the only "good" character

[sharp owl]

And that's good

Yes

[rare stone]

because he tried to expose what Santonian was doing

[sharp owl]

I didn't rank them on goodness i ranked them on coolness

[rare stone]

I know

I don't think Dauda isn't evil for the things he's done

but hearing him be remorseful about it made me sympathize a bit more with him

[sharp owl]

Woods is a hardened badass
Hadkett is trained with a gun
Bishop is angry and thus motivated
Dauda is we need to find a scaout

GIET TO DE FUCKINK SCAUT

[rare stone]

you mocking his beautiful accent?

[sharp owl]

No

I love his accent

Hacket and dauda are the best

[rare stone]

ok based

[sharp owl]

Hackett's casual "noice" is thr single best voice line in thr entire game

[rare stone]

my fav voiceline is when Dauda says "SHUT THE FUCK UP"

[sharp owl]

How do you do hat

[rare stone]

he says it so aggressively

[rare stone]

ChatterReborn :)

[sharp owl]

Ah

I wonder how they came up with the name scout

Nothing else has a name like that

It's either monsters or big guy

[rare stone]

it roams around and "scouts" the area

[sharp owl]

Yeah but

Hrm

I feel unsatisfied

I love the simplicity of big guy

They don't even say giant just "oh that's a big one"

It's so straightforward that it's funny

Like you're in an animal exhibition

"oh that's a big guy"

[rare stone]

"watch out, a spoingly woingly"

(what the scouts should've been named)

[sharp owl]

Maybe "mover"

Cuz it's the only one that moves

Walker?

I wonder how many decibels the scout's scream is

[rare stone]

I was think Feeler

[sharp owl]

But that's the tentacles

[rare stone]

yes

that's why it's a Feeler

actually nah that'd be too confusing

I mean honestly calling it a Scout, Recon, Mover or Roamer is the same difference

[sharp owl]

I wonder why they didn't just give it eyes

[rare stone]

they do have eyes

[sharp owl]

From a lore perspective

[rare stone]

they're just blind

[sharp owl]

You can make them see heat

[rare stone]

look closely at a shooter's face

[sharp owl]

Tey don't have eyeballs

Just the sockets

Also

Why didn't they give the scouts role to a striker

Because they actually have a hole in their throat where the feelers can come from

In a scout they just come out of the skin

[solemn lance]

Hi, I'm contemplating getting the game, I have been playing a "similar" game (1st person, melee, range, 4 men co-op hardest difficulty), so I have some questions:

• how hard is it for a new player?
• is there a way to join randoms or you just have to assemble a team?

[blissful bison]

Pretty hard, since the game barely hold your hand at all.
.
Yes, you can join randoms through discord and matchmake system. You can also join someone else's lobby mid game using lobby code from discord.

[burnt flume]

There's a fairly steep learning curve, and information the game doesn't tell beginners
For finding a group you can join anyone in the lfg channels (see '.t lfg' command/ #how-to-matchmake /Channels & Roles section at the top of the server) granted you don't join a mission beyond your capability

[solemn lance]

I have been playing Warhammer 40K Darktide on Damnation difficulty, would you say is harder or just about the same?
(I'm not even sure they compare, but is the closest I have played I can think of)

[burnt flume]

Or you can post your own lfgs

In game matchmaking is generally a bad idea

[blissful bison]

I'm not sure, never played wh40k Darktide. I guess you can watch some gameplay on YouTube to get an idea

[junior latch]

If you ever feel like you might need tips/knowledge, theres a few guide videos (generally and level specific) so you can always just get better through that if you feel stuck

[burnt flume]

I still need to watch hanis advanced guide

[solemn lance]

I have, I just wanted to hear how both feel from someone that played both

I have watched few videos, this my last stop before I buy 😉

I also wanted to check how difficult would be to find co-op years later after the game was released, I know I'm late, can't help with that 😦

[junior latch]

finding groups isnt rly hard

depends a tad on timezone tho sometimes

but once you get into a community of peeps its rly easy aswell if you are out for that

there isnt just this official discord but also a lot of region discords, content creators discords and so on

[solemn lance]

I guess zone matters? as in, you want everyone in EU or US, etc?

[junior latch]

not rly

i commonly play with US or even Oceania as EU

[burnt flume]

It's not that important unless someone gets really high latency and their experience sucks

[solemn lance]

well, I know that from Ireland for example I can play with US East Coast ping wise

[burnt flume]

But even then, that doesn't stop people

[junior latch]

lag obviously can happen but usually isnt bad
desync is the bigger issue (since game is peer to peer) but that is rly dependent on host to client and honestly not even region dependent

[blissful bison]

It can be hard to find a specific lvl you want to play, since at best there are like 20 lobby discord and you can't pick a lvl using in game matchmake. But generally you can always create a lobby and invite randoms on discord to join you, you'll get a full team pretty quickly on discord

[junior latch]

oh yea
ingame matchmaking is pretty meh to actually progress with

discord lfg (here) is pretty neat. You can host a lobby and people join

[solemn lance]

I'd rather get dragged by teams as a new player, since I would not know where to start

[junior latch]

just starts with the first levels

its all in "order" in a way

rundown 1
A1

aka R1A1

[blissful bison]

The netcode for this game is just SUPERB, you don't have to worry about ping. I'm playing from Australia, often join lobby from the US and I rarely got bad latency. There's some latency sure, but it's still very playable you won't really notice it

[solemn lance]

Alright, I'll get the game, download it and LFG after a shower

Last question, are there classes?

[rose nova]

theres a tutorial in game and a lot of, videos and guides on youtube if u wanna consider those classes

[junior latch]

not rly

you can choose from 4 things
main weapons
special weapons
tools
melee weapons

tools are the biggest difference maker

[blissful bison]

No, well not exactly, people usually assign that themselves. Who carry sniper, who carry heavier weapons etc

[rose nova]

ah not those classes sorry its 8 am

stills leepy

[junior latch]

special weapons are by design specialized for a specific role (wave clear, giant clear, boss clear etc) but arent totally locked in to 1 thing honestly (aside from sniper which is shit rn)

[solemn lance]

so your role is defined by your equipment, got it

[junior latch]

main weapons are common wave clear weapons. And rly more a "side arm" type of dmg output

melee is for stealth and if you want some awake combat shenangians

most early levels dont rly force the team to do much different stuff

but later missions have situations where you are forced to split and deal with different threats at the same time

its a fun dynamic

[solemn lance]

I imagine that melee is viable for when shit hits the fan?

or is it only there for certain situations?

[junior latch]

general use is stealth

[rose nova]

its viable within reason in combat, like if u got a big horde of idk 20 enemies melee its not the best option
but if they are separated and u know how to do it and are confident ur not gonna take much dmg, u can save a lot of ammo

theres also better combat melee weapons and worse combat melee weapons so

[junior latch]

otherwise it depends on how good your evasion mechanics are

also what slendi says

knife is strong even in active combat (vs smalls) while spear... just sucks there

[solemn lance]

so combat wise there is not such thing as dash/dodge, just move out of the way and sprint, etc?

[rose nova]

there is a dodge but generally speakin u dont need it most times

[blissful bison]

Yeah, pretty much. There is a dodge mechanic, but it's useless😅

[rose nova]

u can dodge any enemy attack by side strafin or using a wall, or staggerin it usually

u have ur ways around it

[junior latch]

the dodge isnt useless

its just insanely expensive to use (stamina cost)

so usually you rly only use it if you can regen stamina after again

[solemn lance]

Purchased, full price game, don't disappoint me 😂

[rare stone]

or on accident

[shut vapor]

[junior latch]

if you like the game you will easily get multiple hundreds of hours of content

coming from someone with 2.7k

[rare stone]

it's a big time investment to even learn the game

probably why a lot of people get turned off by it

[shut vapor]

2.7k hours to beat the game more like

[solemn lance]

I don't mind, I have spent 2K hours in games that have some learning curve, I'm a min maxer

[rare stone]

cool you're gonna like the game then

[junior latch]

hard to tell how much time i would have spend to just full clear

considering most of the time is goofing around, testing shit, speedrunning, soloing/duoing and stuff

[rare stone]

most of my time was spent just replaying levels and trying to improve

(I still suck)

[burnt flume]

You should duo r4e1

[solemn lance]

Graphics are excellent on my 1440p monitor and 3070ti

[shut vapor]

[mellow plume]

yes

[burnt flume]

Are you agreeing with me or soliciting me for r4e1 duo

[mellow plume]

I agree

[latent palm]

U dont suxk

[solemn lance]

I'm a pro gamer now (insert tutorial finish screenshot)

[rose nova]

the gaymerness

[shut vapor]

Don't worry, plenty more tutorial to come

Where do you plan on starting

[solemn lance]

I only see R1A1 for now

[shut vapor]

Starting from the first Rundown, smart

[solemn lance]

yeah, I wanna take my sweet time 😂

[shut vapor]

idk if it starts you automatically with bots, but you can toggle who's in your lobby when you host it if you prefer no bots

[lost lynx]

i hate uplinks

[shut vapor]

Why D:

[lost lynx]

bro

if i had to choose between a 10 wave reactor of hybrids or an uplink

im choosing the reactor

R6CX and R8C1 made me hate uplinks so much

[hybrid cloak]

i can tell your life is very exiciting

[lost lynx]

For sure it is

[hybrid cloak]

[solemn lance]

Looking for a weapons tier list on YT but didn't find anything

So far have decided on using the hammer

Nevermind, found one

[lost lynx]

Darkeva has one

Also almost every weapon is good in it's own way

(except sniper, slug and short rifle)

[fringe marsh]

r5c1 where extr why the map so big???

[hybrid cloak]

opens after you finish

[solemn lance]

Watching his EP1-5 series

[junior latch]

[solemn lance]

Keep reading

[junior latch]

@lost lynx also slug is honestly also ok

far better than sniper and short rifle

[lost lynx]

sorry man
your content doesnt exist

[junior latch]

i did
that was just such a bruh moment i short circuted

[junior latch]

[rare stone]

you actually don't exist

[junior latch]

i actually had someone tell me thx for doing the setting short

[rare stone]

you're a figment of our imagination

[lost lynx]

yeah i been using it a bit more
but honestly
there isnt any reason to use it

[solemn lance]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-dead-horse-southpark-gif-4547276

[rare stone]

nice gif

dingus

[worthy flicker]

I feel like slug would pair well with one of the mgs

[junior latch]

at spawn

[lost lynx]

also short rifle is not that bad

[junior latch]

eh
you are just better of picking anything else instead of slug

[rare stone]

slug pairs well with another shotgun

[rose nova]

EXTRact or EXTReme?

[fringe marsh]

that was so hard wtf r5c1

[fringe marsh]

EXTRact

[junior latch]

short rifle is that bad

its not "THAT" bad. Like some people say
but its easily the worst special in the game if compared to others

still useable if you just wanna spend bullets for some dmg

[rare stone]

I still don't think it's as bad as current Sniper

[burnt flume]

the main thing I don't like about short rifle is that it functions like a main weapon with less stagger

[lost lynx]

nothing is as bad as sniper

[junior latch]

slug doesnt rly pair well with anything since it doesnt have any supportive qualities

at best you use it to make the weakness of another gun less awful. But since its only rly good vs flyers.. thats a small amount of weapons that rly want that and not smth else

[burnt flume]

and it's like, if I wanted to use a weapon that was like a main weapon I'd be using my main weapon?

pub had it on last night, I noticed, said "oh god" and then they got pissed at me

[junior latch]

if you give any of the top mains short rifle ammo they are like twice as good as it

[worthy flicker]

What if they gave SR an actual stagger multiplier above 1?

[junior latch]

then it at least wouldnt be hot garbage

[rose nova]

pistol 2 with more mag

[junior latch]

if you buffed its dmg to 5 flat and gave it 1x stagger
then it would be around HAR and arbalist

which are both kinda meh

[analog flicker]

Heavy AR but semi auto

[rare stone]

just take Heavy AR if you don't want carpel tunnel

[worthy flicker]

I like HAR fwiw

Just not more then other things

[junior latch]

HAR rly wouldve needed its og r6 recoil

current is just so hindering

[analog flicker]

if they can even control full auto HAR effectively

[rare stone]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[analog flicker]

most HAR users tap/burst

[rare stone]

"short controlled bursts 🤓"

[solemn lance]

I don't see many people trying for A1 levels so I'm trying to solo it, failed twice so far, lets see when I give up

[rare stone]

you can host levels yourself

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rare stone]

also someone is doing R1A1 #lfg-beginners message

[junior latch]

as cat said
hosting is the easiest way to find people for it
(also i hope it shows you all the lfgs, since appearantly many people dont have immediate access to those without choosing to)

[rare stone]

Channels & Roles > Browse Channels > Scroll down to "Looking for Group" and checkmark all the channels you want to show up

[worthy flicker]

Anecdotal but when I've hosted lobbies I don't normally have to wait long for people to show up unless it's at a really odd hour of night.

[kindred mural]

fr

They ruined it

[junior latch]

im so mad that the new lobby/channel system blocks fugi from workin

means i either have to join lobbies or have someone open up the channel for me

such a scam

[analog flicker]

more pub gaming?

[junior latch]

once my major presentation is over

[serene jewel]

is there a booster tier list 🙃

[wispy bluff]

I can make one

[serene jewel]

bioscan and supply efficiency would probably be at the top maybe

[vestal crystal]

Depends on the map too, cfoam portion is stupid as well

[rare stone]

bioscan speed > supply

(you don't have to babysit your teammates)

[burnt flume]

I think I'd say supply eff is better than bioscan objectively

even if technically there is still enough resources that you're fine without boosters, supply eff is fucking stupid

[rare stone]

bioscan speed deniers when R8D2 Secondary

[serene jewel]

infection resist is instantly S tier when you get 100% on those kinda maps

[lusty river]

Literally pubs failing cause they can't shoot and run 😱

[vestal crystal]

Bioscan doesn't help much with that when the problem is being unable to deal with tank

[rare stone]

c foam grenades

scatter of gun

[vestal crystal]

Whether you're on the 4th or 6th scan if you're dying to destabilization when he shows up you're gonna die anyways

[rare stone]

I think that's R2E1 you're talking about 🤓

[lusty river]

Indeed you are correct on that too

Mfs think they can tackle a surge with high cal by themselves 😱

[rare stone]

you can

just be good enough

trust

[lusty river]

That's too high of an expectation unfortunately

[rare stone]

too high like high cal?

[lusty river]

I don't use high cal enough so I can't say much

[strong crow]

Just bring the hel rifle and ask the sleepers to line up nicely. EZ surge defense

[rare stone]

I prefer revolver

[rare stone]

Hel Gun better

[strong crow]

Doesn't it only have 2 pen or am I just dumb?

[rare stone]

4

[strong crow]

Oh yeah, then hel gun

[rare stone]

Hel Shotty and Combat Shotty also slap

on that level

Autopistol can also work I guess

[wicked solstice]

hel gun has 3?

I’m like 99.99% sure

[rare stone]

it can hit 3 extra enemies

but pierce is usually 1 extra

so the Hel Revo has 2 pierce

[wicked solstice]

wait why the fuck does wiki say 4

[rare stone]

because it can hit 2 enemies

[wicked solstice]

I stg it was 3

[rare stone]

you're technically right

[wicked solstice]

no i’m not

i gotta check datablocks

But I’ve had it in my head that it’s 3 for the longest time

When I talk about pen I always use total enemies hit

[rare stone]

so it's 4

[shut vapor]

Talking about pen you could argue you use total enemies hit before the last

[wicked solstice]

but i thought it was 3

wait so it pens 3 and hits the 4th?

[rare stone]

you shoot the first enemy and up to 3 behind it will get damaged

[wicked solstice]

i have misunderstood pen for literally 2 years

@junior latch imma need a confirmation on this because i am losing it

[rare stone]

Hel Revo has a pierce of 2

so it hits the first enemy

and hits an extra one behind it

[wicked solstice]

wait no I’m not crazy then

Because in datablocks, hel revo is listed as 2 pen

Last time I checked, hel gun had 3 pen

In datablocks

i gotta check this

[junior latch]

if its 4 pen it can hit 3 targets

[wicked solstice]

wat

[junior latch]

after the one it hits

[hybrid cloak]

1+3

[rare stone]

yes

[junior latch]

but idk what the actual value is tbh

[wicked solstice]

and hel gun has 4 pen

[junior latch]

its 4 on the wiki iirc