#gtfo-chat
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Yeah, comms
the hud isn't from the mask
If only they had night vision
it's from the microchip
They see the hud?
Damn
remind me never to work for kovac lmao
I like when you can see scratches on the glass when lights hit them right
Little details like that
How come most alt/r6 articles on the wiki are stubs
Good question
A while back the altr5 articles were stubs, but it's finally been added (ty to whoever did that)
what is a stub :(
is there any chance running modded interferes with the fail a mission achievement cos I've had many fails with varying amounts of players and it hasnt popped
ive been able to get every other achievment I've gone for
nope
its just that one
theres a setting in mtfo to choose to get achievements
is it like bugged or random or is there a specific condition it needs to unlock?
yes
drop in into r1a1 bots kill em then let the enemies kill u and dont alt f4 nor quit
and then wait for the server sync
idk
idk like i wiped on an r8d1 with 4 actual players yesterday and nothing its weird
Maybe its how the achievement is completed
Theres some weird condition how its gotten
you have to die harder
thanks I'll try that next time
we need one more in team chat 777 running Rundown R6A1
Triple 7s, nice
Is there a way to turn the lights back on after entering the start light_testing.exe command?
nope :3
short answer, no
Long answer, lights go "i no no wanna ;("
Long answer?
no
long answer, some levels have a "turn on lights" event, so provided that the lights were already off and said event triggers then yes
This is really annoying r8 maps because of the error randomly turning off because of the random deactive alarm events
it's a feature :))
hirnukuono did make a mod that stops the start commands from working for anyone interested
Based ngl
I've had people join and try to use them and it's like "man can you stop trolling my game"
New bossfight
It plays exactly like that one tank thing from AC6, the prisoners are massacred
I honestly want to do it, need to learn some modeling
I guess mom would be easiest to make it on not sure
r2e1 sucks
it funny
no its great
we cfoamed the ladder on one surge alarm and it was so cheaty lol
We wiped trying to get to extract
skill issue or something idk
Can anyone help me on North America with R3A3? having trouble finding folks for this rundown, never beat it π
gold star

What's the terminal password for R8A2?
I tried 3RG20-AMKK6 but doesn't seem to work
It has reset as the new week started
what update?
Ment him XD
Do you know what terminals have the password?
He needs to update the name π
Not really ask in #general (i think its in R8B2 not sure)
Or ask in #gtfo-spoiler-chat depends what chat is more active right now
a little late but its 3RG2o-AMKK6
'o' not a '0'
trolled
I love spreading misinformation
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ay fellas what would you say is the hardest mission. just beat R2D1 and it was probably the hardest
oooh boy
Tutorial
lool
the very next mission is a doozy, then u can mostly drool / afk for a rundown, then r4 begins.. crowning with r4e1
ive heard R2E1
for beginners R2D2 R2E1 yeah
it's basic fun and games until u reach the Door, then it becomes hard
im trying to avoid spoilers too. but is there as much fog as there is in R4?
i meant in R2
r2e1 has some, yes
lets just say that that mechanic stays
r2d2 used to have it but it was made non-infectious in alt-
r3 has been a bit of a breeze
like said, after r2e1 u can drool for a rundown but then r4 begins and r4 is not hard per se (until r4e1) .. the expeditions and their optionals are just loooongggg.
optionals sound dop[e
gather 15 something, optional: gather 9 something else, overload: swim upstream while carrying a thing
the best part of r4xx is the fact that after 2-15 hours the missions end
then r6 is easy also, not sure about r7 (hasnt been hard) and r8 first half easy, second funny
oh yeah r5 funny as well
like 15 hours for 1 mission
does r4e1 still hold the crown
but i advise go into r4 and immerse. schedule the evening to beat a mission and beat it.
I'd say r4e1 is one of the easier E levels
did you get carried
i guess yeah
for teams that can kill tanks in 10 seconds, it's not so bad. running it with 2 bots.. mehh..
lucky theres lots of high points to shoot tanks from
did i read 15 hours for 1 mission?
no
||well in like 2 rooms tbh π ||
.. unless the fog is already down π .. .. oh well, its my skill issue talking, i found the beginning of r4e1 on the ruff side
||yep this is why you wait for the last tank spawn before putting cell in...||
15 hours was exaggeration on my part, due to remembering many levels that "never ended" π
nah, more like 6 tbh
what
yeah i saw the most people said 6 hours was the longest
||I love spreading misinformation
||
prolly like r2d2
?????????
r5d1 took forever.. r4c2(?) with the glp + something + bigpickup was somewhat long..
don't remember minutes or hours exactly
its longer than r2d1 
no
r2d2 is less than 1hr, once u start that reactor the time is calculated for u
||10 codes of pleasure||
What kinda levels are yall playing that are longer???
r5b1 pe was long ish
well I was looking from speedruncom so makes sense
bruh
:)
But its really just how fast you move, I bet most missions can be done faster than r2d2
this does not mean the average pub lobby
||37min moment in src||
me as self-designated appointed-for-life captain of team Slow (me, bruh and 2bots), we sometimes just immerse, clear out room by room slow and careful and steady, plan (and rehearse) our moves, take wc & food breaks, beat a level with many hours passed. and we enjoy.
the src folks are built different π
Sounds about right yeah
hello little question if it's possible ^^ I have crashes in all games and without any explanation
Could someone please help me, it's really not cool and I don't think for a single second that it comes from the PC because it's the only game that constantly crashes
I tried to put it on another hard drive to check the documents and launch it in admin mode but nothing
and my driver is good
its harder than r2/7 and r8e1
Arguably as hard/easier than 5 and e2
No mission should ever take 3 really
2 is already playing it veeeeery safe and slowish
So question
most people take longer than an hour on it
but ye its not the longest. Its just hard to go rly fast on it tbh
Is the consensus that 4E is the hardest one? And if so - why not 5E? What are objective difference that make 4 more problematic?
I havent seen enough of E2 to tell if its harder or easier. Only that its buggier π
the ||tank error|| is a big skill divider
Top 3 are 4,5 and 8,E2
r5e1 non-cell-skip is just a different difficult, the infection et al ..
it rly depends on what you struggle with and what not
R4E1 I found to be way easier than R5E1 tbh. Could just be the teams.
Exactly opposite for me. Took 3-4 attempts for 4 and first-blind-timed it for 5 by following orders.
personally
R5E1 is a constant focus
R4E1 is in bursts (tank error, reactor last code and ending)
R8E2 is a build up up to reactors last wave peak
R2E1 you either breeze past the first surge and go get cell without issue, or strugle on the 1st scan and then you know the team aint it.
It was rough at times, and the last alarm almost got us, but otherwise...
damn i must be doing real bad with r8e2 then
probably have done upwards of 30 runs
but it is most definitely the team that determines whether you get far or not
It is OVER for you
Well
Not yet technically
I still need to carry artek out of E2 torture
Last night was the 1st week
how bout you carry me
I mean i still have 5 stacks worth of mele boosters
But i have lost my voice because of yesterday torture
lmaoooo
I think i might have the worst luck for boosters
i got i think 7 regen speed aggressive boosters in a row, all with reduced bioscan speed
I unironically entered booster farming arc
R8 grinded through my best supplies. All i have left now is fucking +Melee Resist
We caaaaan still go for another run today
get me a team who does it and ill be on that shit
8/10 of my agressive boosters are -Melee and i don't have muted and bolds to compensate
But ill log on late maybe idk
Also not a single bioscan speed
Trust me heβs desperate
If not then hed never
cant remember the last time i had one of those
I've been collecting muted bio scan speed ups
I think I only have 4 slots without them now
No boosters 
It can be done
When atleast some1 can double team with me to kill atleast a shadow giant ffs
Yeah, the fast stealth part gets old quick
i personally disagree
i enjoy the fast controlled stealth a lot
you melee/shoot/avoid
Speedrunner and Spear Enjoyer like different aspects of the game, more at 6
As in the broken door
Why rhe fuck is a door broken
well thats why you open doors you need to and also move to rooms you have already cleared
or just dont alert the scouts
better to wake a room then deal with a scout wave
i fucking love this hahahaha
I gotta say i haven't heard so many scout screams in a while
Fighting scout waves in E2 is honestly just normal at this point.
especially with my teams lol
also yeah ive found the scout waves to spawn weirdly idk if thats just me tho
hi all just wondering if GTFO is worth getting and playing iv been looking at it for some time and it looks great hard but was wondering how active it is
One of the few games I play actually.
its fairly active and there is plenty of content to go through
the discord is pretty active you can find heaps of people to play with you
Fairly active, just don't use in-game matchmaking - everyone searches games through this discord.
So worth it 100%
Just remember that this game is a hardcore bitch and will make you suffer. It won't hit you immediately - but it will, eventually.
ok thank you all
r1-3 are like lil bitch baby levels then r4 onwards is like a whole ass nuke being dropped on ur head
Thats not it
Why are scouts triggering
A guy sneakingly spawned in late and decided to be sussy on the coom foam
thats what im sayin
And scream immediately when it gets out of it
honestly the whole level is very solveable to avoid consecutive chain wake ups
Oh, there's so been so many different reasons...
Resulting the room trigger
Most common one - random ass shadow was next to it and the guy going for the kill proxi triggers shadow = insta wake scout, because that's a cool and fair mechanic.
At this point its a running joke for delayed spawn
One guy got touched by tentacle through textures or some tight-ass crack.
it is fair. just dont wake him up or shoot the scout
A bit rare but eh
One time someone left a sentry behind, a scout respawned and sentry took a shot.
The entire squad was like "Huh, what was that? Who do i hear a scout gazzilion kilometers from here?"
Me fr fr (ik not kidding it was my sniper sentry)
Failed stealth is pretty much #1 reason
I mean
On 7 runs
Only 2 were caused by failed stealth resulting in time loss and resources spended more
It is
you can see shadows with bio or thermals
But thats no the case lul
scouts obviously do trigger, it happens
I am busting my behind off to clear hybirds and charger scouts so some1 can sit back on respawn block
but realistically you should never get a chain reaction unless you play it out bad
But then that guy walk in 
exception is zone with first alarm
Surprisingly
Only one pub moment happened that day
Where the guy triggers a shadow and runs head first back into respawn zone
Ditching everyone to die then proceed to head out the back door by alt f4-ing
i mean i can figure pubs waking things up being a common thing
Bro had a life time with that shadow and didnt bother to hit it lul
actual question
how much do you stealth before you just shoot scout/boss
my priority is just
Scout -> boss -> giants -> smalls
as long as first 2 are dead i melee
scouts go first, clear whatever you can, then stealth scattergun attack on bosses
I might actually become the scattergun man... But i'm not good at open-fighting tanks with it, they lick me all the time. I'd rather bring sniper at that point.
sniper 
Once again: my most succesful run was with sniper. Pretty much solo'd a tank with it. But couldn't solo the other 2, because everyone got got by the delayed waves.
I don't know, i take my sweet time to take shots
Also it doesn't oneshot fliers which annoys me to no fucking end
I'm aware.
Eh... Not that great against nightmares.
hide behind cover close
then peak and shoot
have teammates shoot and look, then push if it stares at you
its 3 shots even with tumor shots
2
or... 2...
I don't know. I'm fucking bored of all the guns.
Haven't used BC in a while... Maybe i should do that.
its also pretty eco on just bodyshots tbh
Same here
Note to self if ever play with artek
Make sure he gets sniper or hel rifle
I tried HEL Rifle to catch fliers on the their way in. I wasn't succesful.
I pinged wrong
They spawned at near the 2nd code door
1st wave of flyers were at the entrance
I don't know, i'm just so bored. I might just bring 2 assault rifles next time and go brrrrrrrt
Tired of sniping, tired of aligning shots
I already gotchu on that
You just need to look pretty and bang
I'll be gearing up for flier duty. Someone needs to kill those fast.
Not many guns with a 16 breakpoint...
(slowly glances towards Slugshot)
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
21dmg
I forgor the fall off range
Would DTR be based for that then?
Bring actual good weapons 
like hel shotty and veruta
id understand it if you breeze through stuff
Might sacrifice sniper for BC. The Burst Man.
and if you are rly bored
play another game
Come back when the itch for gtfo flares up
6m
7m if you want to account for striker oneshot body
Aint no way u said that
Eva isn't wrong imo
Especially happened once I completed every level
@wise pumice HI MR.D.D
I'm not bored of the game per se, just of the guns. Using same gun gets old after a while. I even got burned out on BP, which... Oof.
Getting pleasant vibes from Burst Pistol and... And... Yeah, specials are a problem.
Would love to use Short Rifle more, but you know... Its a throwing gun.
just helrev + veruta, never gets old " π "
veruta is super fun but sometimes u gotta take bigger guns
Sniper Rifle proven to be somewhat fun as well. I can just nuke nightmares with a bodyshot and not worry about wasting damage because 40 vs 37 HP is perfectly reasonable.
I just wish they fix the reload speed, the misaligned sound is throwing me off.
oh ye. i've tested scattergun lately, and damn. run so all the wave / wakeroom runs behind u, turn around, shoot both scatter barrels, continue mission as all enemies dead. ehh.
I guess i can always go back to high cal.
i should really save this scatter for the giants and bosses oh look a small coming right at mBOOOM
Do you think pump action is a throwing gun for E2?
pump is good except for el grande jefe maybe
why take pump when u can take scatter
but no its not
there is decent amount of ammo before secondary
and secondary u can pump as much as u want
Hm.
np: Yello - Oh Yeah
Thats so real
Use the guns you never rly used
Ya know, the good ones :^ )
Its decent wave clear
Decent boss clear
Decent nightmare clear (can 1 tap but risky as close up)
Decent into giants
Sucks into kraken
So overall its fine. But why take it if you could specialize with say
PR, scattergun and hel gun
This reminds me of when I began using revolver. (Not saying it's a strong pick for E2)
If i could make BP into a special - i would
Actually something i just thought about. Excluding singular levels (such as D3/D4/AX-CX and E2)
Which level has the best average in fun/cool design
say D2
All of the D2s in all the rundowns are at least decent if not cool levels
Fun and cool design. Hmm
generally yes
R4d2 is meh
When you learn there was potential for a sentry that targeted both sleepers and prisoners

Sadly didn't make it
r4d2pe
r4e1 (tank error)
r5c2pe
r5e1
r6c3pe
r7c3pe
r8d2
not singular level as in that
but all A2s
all C3s etc
so say C2 has some rly good ones (imo) with R5/6/7/8 but 4 sucks and 1/2 are mid at best
he wants to replay r5c3
it was pain to play but a good lvl nonetheless
i feel like C3s are good levels but always with a twist
R4 just feels like a build up for the overload/main combo (good tho)
R5 is
kinda mid ngl
R6 is cool, but also a lot is just running and mining
R7 start and secondary are so boring to replay
rundown tier list when?
d2s is fun for me
next on the sleeper podcast that i totally watch
game needs more E tiers tho
i was excited when i first dropped in e1
was hoping there gon be lot more after the 10 min jog but then
surely they wouldn't do that
there's always only ever been 1
as good as the level is its just not enough for the final rundown
Is it? Then again i haven't seen past 
eh i haven't tried it i meant it in a "it's a ridiculous idea" thing lol
honestly the joke is just that E1 isnt an E tier due to having a checkpoint (difficulty wise its moreso a C aswell, but thats less funny to say)
from start to finish it had the E tier dawg in it but more would have been nice
i mean tbh, i did abuse that checkpoint in my bot run lol
but that's the thing i did it with bots after like, 2 days of tryin
must've been like 5 hours of attempts between my two days
like
well i did do main only i should shut up
is it really that bad or you got major skill issue
wasnt that bad when i first tried it
no it's not that bad probs
i mean i tried it ik what it does
but bots and mining doors it's a combo that just doesn't work when u run
if i had a team i would've done it in like 10 attempts or so
you're not used to error lvls with bots i guess
Does one ever
yeah i mean
some are fine, i mean all errors are easy cause it's sprinkling enemies
but when it's full waves and u gotta run
honestly id just run double sentry mines with bots
it's really, not easy
mines would not help like for anything
u can't mine any doors cause the bot runs in
i did do main only and i completed it
but 3 sentries
if u got through r6c3 main with bots u can do r8e1
i did r6c3 main
and i did it like first try i think lol
but that levels full of ammo
and it gives u time if u wanna close a door
it's like a min between waves or 30 seconds
also waves are lot bigger than e1
i mean only mains yeh
but e1 sec adds a lot of shit would make it impossible
to like run and mine doors at all
and then ur sentries would run out
and u would need to kill every, single big enemy
somehow
cfoam and mines help lot more than sentries
scatter gun works
i did tun scattergun for my main clear but it runs out of ammo fast if ur the only persson shooting bigs and u need time to search every ammo pack which leaves u open to danger
tbh it does need a bit of respawning bots to get them the fuck outta rooms
that's the thing with bots u just can't
u just can't do that
a bit no, a TON
there's only one two doors u can force bots through
considering i did it with secondary that way surely there is a possibility
all others it's a 50/50
a bot run?
damn
yes
i mean i don't deny the possibility but i would think it's hard as fuck
theres others where you get enough time
1st zone is a free mine
2nd is too
so is 4th
5th is too (is annoying tho)
thats all the mines gone wooo
before 2nd key zone is also a free one
the question is better bots or not ?
its doable without obviously
but they tend to be less idiotic
betterbots cuz i dont want any combat shenanigans
i mean there's doors but not a lot where u have time/tile to like force bots through
i found the blue room where u go in a U shaped room, right before the zone with the bigs, that's about the only tile u can force bots to come through if u just run
no. All the doors i called out give you time to get the bots through and mine
Issue is a singular bot going back throug cuz funny
also if u have a pack on you u can tap it once on bots to stop them from phasing through the door
which is actually hard to deal with i give ya
happens so much it's a pain
oh that's a good strat i never thought of that
3 sentires the superior bot loadout, always
i've heard people put sentries down to not let the bots past through a door but sounds dumb cause most of the time it's the bio bot
just needs 1 variable to stop that but π€·ββοΈ
that stays behind lol
Funny challenge commands. That's it. Works any level, from any terminal.
the bot is the scan master π
simple funny introduction, also fell that they think about the game even if is considering finished
can i put my light back on again?
nope
sad
i just it on a randon match making on r3a1 lol
i should not have done that now everyone is on the floor π¦
What, because lights are out?
it happens (and you have to mantain) also if you enable the secondary mission of one specific roundown if i remember well on R6
yep
just had THE most scuffed R8E2 run lmaooo
was perfect until kraken when someone softlocked themself, left and rejoined to fall out of map and respawn at the start, wakes up scouts and tanks, run out of time so deal with surge alarm, have to kite for 20 minutes while most of us going down, leaving so a bot can revive, kiting all the way to the mwp room to cfoam to stall first scan, and defend until we finish with someone leaving cause they got snatched
flawless run
Did you win though
that could be us artek
This game in its current windows only executable running on top of a Linux wrapper at 16 gigabytes will not run on the steam deck no matter what version of proton assigned even at its lowest settings, Why is it even available in the steam store when it wonβt even run? Either fix the issues, build a true Linux-only client or refund me and all deck owners who purchased the game believing that it is playable on this platform when in fact itβs not.
weird, i could swear i saw steam deck players before in the server
cant u refund it if u havent played 2 hours tho?
they can run it
hum
idk i remembs one player who played with their brother, who had a deck
but idk
i shouldnt get into it
Lmao this guy doesn't quit. Runs fine for me on steamdeck
o/
my game is stuck on loading screen
what do? :/
checked files integrity on steam already
run as admistrator done aswell
waiting for system assets to initalize...
@wary chasm where sado
Nope. Steam will not refund me
wdym steam will not refund you even tho you have less than 2 hours?
That somehow doesnt sound like steam
Did you own the game for over 14 days?
Even if steam doesn't auto refund they typically will refund it if you have a valid reason for the refund like say - Game literally won't work on Steam Deck and your playtime isn't crazy high / super long delay
i was dropping down for 3 hours with sky
oh
Yeah sorry my PC takes a bit sometimes
Yes.
Steam wonβt refund if itβs over 2 hours played or over 2 week purchase period
imagine refunding GTFO
god

But you can list the refund issue to be technical, maybe itβll give you a better shot, but slim
wait a minute
hi ppp
hellow good Sir how are you doing
i lost my voice for the last 16hrs
but other than that
im good
Bottom line, the game simply will not run on the deck.
what did you do?
tortured on R5E1 cell skip and R8E2 wipes
Have you tried tinkering alongside filing a refund? Other people here have a steam deck and it works fine for them
then im not gonna ask for A1
you shouldnt, it lessens the steak
tbh i wouldn't recommend purchasing GTFO only for using on the steam deck
we only have basic support and it's not optimized for the deck, or linux at all
I have tried tinkering-every dingle settings possible down to the lowest. Nothing works. The game file itself-which is only 16gb-it doesnβt work.
i'd only recommend gtfo on the deck if you main on pc and just want something to play casual like being carried to get an achievement in a, b, maybe c tier
Iβm still hoping the steam community can get the game to work. If much larger games such as god of war, Returnal and Uncharted can run on the deck, then the said can be achieved for GTFO
what exactly happens? crashes during elevator drop?
have you tried the tutorial or what level you testing with?
Crashes-exactly-locks up the deck forcing a complete system reboot
It doesnβt matter what level-the behavior is exactly the same.
but have you tried the tutorial?
the reason i ask is some levels are a lot bigger, more things to load, less optimized than others. So a very small and simple level like the tutorial might give a better chance of loading than a more complex level
would also be interesting to see the log file from a one of the loads, could indicate if say there was exception spam, or certain point it fails in the level gen process
Even the tutorial has locked up
I canβt understand why. The game is small compared to the other larger games that run on the deck with no issue.
the small install size is just indicative that we're really good at reusing assets and delivering a lot of playtime content with not needing a lot of actual files.
it's not an indication that the game works well on lower spec devices, or devices that run apps designed for windows to run on linux
at least you've admitted it now
So far they mix up enough things inside said assets to where it doesn't bug me
did they fix the bug with smc cut slim mode 1 where your arms went invisible when you meleed
(can't believei spelt that correctly on thje first go lmao
Again, the game in its current form is not optimized to run on the deck. Plain and simple. Nothing wrong with the steam deck.
Yes, that's what I said.
What gave you the idea that the game was optimised to run on steam deck?
quite a few computers have trouble enough as is
Because of its availability on steam-thatβs why.
You think every game on steam can run on steam deck?
"Just because you can doesn't mean you should" pops to mind
That sounds awful
yup
Not enough reviews to warn others that say βdonβtβ
reviews from which source?
where'd all the vc channels go
time to wait another 5 years for a new pc so i can play this on max graphics
Man I'm sorry but sometimes you gotta use that 10 pounds of electric meat inside your head
starting using a bot to create vcs if and when needed to declog the server
Gone when they decided to use this new system where you join a vc-channel creator that makes a lobby automatically
declog lmao
oh okay
their words, not mine
System which I personally hate but whatever
whoever they even is at this point
the amount of times I've said I don't like the new system is a couple
Thereβs only one reviewer in the steam community that actually has the balls to be blunt and warn people:
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1196561583267131494
109775243818608094
R1A1 need two more people !
Regarding the Steam Deck, the store page shows it as "playable" with a yellow warning label
as a new player i have to say it's really annoying to have people leave the second they get downed, even if we are doing fine in the run or almost done or just started
Wether that qualifies as enough I've no idea
And he comes off as a bit of a douche nozzle.
why is that a steam group that seems startlingly inactive
On the other hand I've seen people play this on Steam Deck "fine"
I don't understand what your point is
^ i played on the deck
there's even a video from og r6
Itβs not a warning-just additional configuration information
It is literally a warning
"This game is functional on Steam Deck, but might require extra effort to interact with or configure."
To be honest I cant remember the last time this happened to me
And I've met a good amount of nutcases
Ingame MM a decent amount of times I guess
but in Discord? Nah
That's probably my mistake then, using in game MM
ah yes don't
I'm really liking the game and and finially feeling capable in a lot of the stealth and combat, still learning terminal use, but I've had better luck with bots than the MM so far. I know a while ago this game didn't have a MM though and really focused on getting in good groups through discord so it makes sense
A LONG while ago, eh, ingame MM has been around since... I think since I started playing, and I started playing 2-3 years ago
On screen keyboard
Mouse keyboard or other non steam deck controller icons
And just use discord for MM
Not a warning
No need to get whatsoever experience beforehand, really
Just do a lobby yourself in beginners if you're concerned about that stuff
But I bet most won't really care much
I'll try that, part of the bummer is since I'm a new player I don't have high hopes that anyone would want to go through R1 with me, and so far i've just been playing random levels like r5 and r7
Doesnβt matter. Game overall will not run. Not until the issues are rectified.
Tbh I've been consistently able to find groups for r1-4
You aren't going to annoy people regarding that unless you join stuff like D-Es that aren't r1d1 100% clueless
A vet can crunch r1 with you in like... 2 hours?
less I guess?
Not saying it'd be fun or you'd find a lot of people but eh
Better than JUST vanilla bots for sure
worse case scenario you start with another guy and 2 bots
R5 (bad Sleepo r5 doesn't have checkpoints) - r7 levels ON AVERAGE I'd say are harder than r1s even in spite of the checkpoints not being there
Probably bc I've gotten pretty familiar with combat and stealth and clearing rooms, so it's not like I'm a dead weight. I'm gonna take a break and maybe come back to see if I can find anyone to clear R1 with me.
And yeah idk what level I played yesterday, something in R5 maybe, but it was literally just survive for 30 minutes and we couldn't make it 5 haha. I'm sure there are some tricks to that level though then trying to face the waves head on
When me and my static were new we could run through R1 knifing everything, take that as you will
I for the entirety of R1 thought knife was best melee cause of that
Up until R1D1 anyway
I mean I know I'm new but knife has been my favorite melee so far xD, just for solo'ing small groups and clearing small enemies fast. Bullpup rifle for a balanced primary, and HCP for scouts n big guys. Oh and I'm a big fan of biotracker bc with that and the knife it lets me clear rooms super quickly. But that's also more of a solo focused playstyle, I'm sure if I get into groups through discord there might be a bit more specialization needed
nah no specialization and I cant think of a map that couldn't use a biotracker anyway, but switch to hammer cause eventually you're going to want to
HCP's very user-friendly I guess and if you want a user-friendly main just take Carbine
Nah, HEL shotty all the way.
its less that specializarion is needed and more that some specialized weapons are just insanely good rn
but HCP is a good all rounder and does a lot of things well
hel shotty isnt beginner friendly
Point and hold left mouse button till it goes click. If danger still there, reload and repeat. Good aim not required.
Gee, why didnβt I think of that? Oh itβs because not enough reviewers and players warn others that the game has serious bugs that the creators have never addressed and refuse to fix. Hereβs a thought: use your big mouths and tell people when thereβs a problem with a product so that others donβt get screwed out of their hard-earned money.
Yeah I see hammer is the most used melee, can someone explain to me why? SO FAR (being new) I have absolutely loved the knife
I go more about the "is subject close or about to hit you? is subject staggered? hit subject, repeat until subject dead" but admittedly I dont play HEL Shotty much at all aside from maps where I can abuse a chokepoint
Some enemies are going to be a pain to kill stealth with knife
What some melees cant do, hammer can do decently enough
My review has the issues stated but its not like it pops up every single run and expedition. The checkpoint bug shows up only at, well, checkpoints. The black blob bug was sort of fixed (smaller, goes away very fast and shows up way less often), sometimes spawns (partly) inside walls but it now shows up in specific points like the R7B3 ladder and R4E1 stairs but it shows up way less often then before (like 1 in 25 runs or so).
It effectively has no downsides.
Me chuckling as I shatter all the giants limbs in melee with my made out of scrap hammer
Wanna bonk a scout from any side? hammer can, bat/knife cant. Wanna kite stuff around and bonk? Hammer can, spear cant
And if the community is committed to getting this game on a portable yet incredibly impressive piece of hardware, then donβt blame the end user because they didnβt know that something that was advertised to work-doesnβt on a so-called supported platform.
Wanna go toe to toe with the local giant population? Wanna 1 hit chargers in the back?
Hammer
Going solo on giants is easier with the spear though. But for everything else, yes, hammer.
True, I know I CAN knife a scout in the back of the head, but I almost always just clear the room then HCP them. And yeah big guys are definitely harder to stealth I've noticed, so I usually just rely on team/bots to sync attack them. Man idk I love my knife thoughπ
Knife been buffed something nasty recently, so its actually a weapon now.
I find it harder with spear personally but that might be a skissue
Spear though has been in the shitter forever.
Again, Iβve given up-for now. Iβll wait until@the issues are addressed.
There's no real objective reason to use it, besides the comfort of slow stealth.
can it one stab full back a charger yet?
No, its 2 damage off
So you backstab it and then just scratch it and it falls down
Also literally any +melee booster will allow it do so
I'd use a trashbin icon but apparently there are none
Really? That's a weird.
ehhhh but still
Do people use bats? I so far haven't seen any, mainly hammers and the occasional knife, but I've only been playing for like 3 days
I used a bat for a long time. Hammer more better though.
When this game doesn't give you normals to kill in stealth it gives you giants and chargers so I'd say that's a decent enough priority
πͺ£ ποΈ
"wastebasket"
the bucket looked weird
Thanks, now I know there's something I guess
you're probably gonna be waiting a while, we're not expecting any major updates, just minor things
while i'm sure it's fuckin frustrating, there have been plenty of people in this conversation alone that have said they've played it on deck just fine. idk what's up with yours, but clearly in some cases it's playable,
Literally just hammer junior. Trades reach and onehit power for quick charge.
Its like a missing link between hammer and knife. Stagger of former, speed of latter, power or DPS of none.
Not a big deal.
I'm one of 2.5 people here unironically using the spear despite knowing that its crap.
I want to like spear, cause they're cool irl, but hammer go bonk good.
The only update I really want is better sound tbh. But better optimised tiles will do.
The only update I want is a fixed Sniper tbh
Whats bad about spear? Low stagger and Low recharge?
you cant run while charging
That. Offset by good damage and range control.
I thought they fixed this but maybe its just walking while charging
- inferior bodyshot damage
- effectively same charge-to-kill times as hammer even with headshots
- can't sprint properly when charging
- stagger, yeah
It's like a weird thing that's not as fast as running
And it's so easy to just charge and bonk anywhere a striker
You couldn't sprint at all when charging before, and then they enabled it - but provided it with custom sprint speed instead that is just BARELY faster than walking
tbh comfy is a good way of putting it - MH uses comfy a lot to denote things that are easy to do well
The one thing that we all want to see from spear is being utility against giants and bosses to get that first extra strike in for massive damage. But its just... Not quite there.
I've been knifing but sometimes the hitbox seems iffy
Might go back to hammering a bit
Isn't it only marginally more then hammer anyway?
Seems latency dependent from my plays but could just be iffy.
its 33% extra damage
Eh the only βcommonβ serious bug is desync related issues. God do these suck but funnily enough 99% of them dont show up on good connections.
Other than that game breaking bugs are as rare as in most other games. With the exception of spitter sound bug maybe (map related)
theres other bugs but those arent even remotely as bad as usually implied
-> but, what tells you the devs refuse to fix these lol. For some of them the cause isnt even rly known exactly. Im not saying the devs are perfect (cuz they arent)
But theres no βpeople not putting out negative reviewsβ
That's not bad then
Occi vs Giant Striker:
Hammer = 60 DMG tops
Spear - 78.something DMG tops
I was hosting so I dont think it was that - but sometime small circle close range hits don't hit where I think they will
Its... Notable, but not actually a meaningful break point.
Bad dmg breakpoint generally actually
I'm not good at math but I think that's less then 33 percent
I dont know if it's related but I also noticed that I get away with a lot more while trying to charge and occiput a striker quickly moving behind him as host
Extra damage only matters if it reduces hits to kill tho
% also doesnt tell the whole thing
Remember that dmr needs like minimal extra dmg to be busted
Spear just doesnt get kills better due to precision dmg aside from hybrids/chickens
This
They literally just mirrored the bonus damage number.
It was +13% extra headshot damage and now its +31%
I think that as client I'd need to hit with some delay for the position to register
It was a welcome change, but it didn't really change much
Maybe there's something along those lines, but I don't pick knife since og r6
Should be 40%
I did say I wasn't good at math
I want to be a pro knifer but it does seem a lot harder to be good with
Yeah, ik, I was just making an observation about numbers.
Charge attack, aim at enemy head, profit
For little dudes anyway
Good luck with big dudes idfk
Use hammer, have it happen anyway
Pretend you're a basketball player
And scout's head is a... basketball basket thing that you put the ball in
Hoop?
A net?
Both technically correct
hole
Someone posted a SS recently that had guns I've never seen being used - did they remove older Rundown specific guns?
pretend you're in a liveleak video shot in mexico and the scout didn't pay up
They made it sound like they had just played it
might be new ones or an old screenshot
Hel Chaingun I think it was
never seen being used? maybe it's mods
yeah that's mods
That too
Ahh ok
That's for later then
I'm struggling to find a Special I like besides the HC
I've seen quite a few people with modded weapons ngl
Try the choke mod tbh
It's similar to HCP
I like the Hel Gun / Rifle but at least early on they seem a bit too situational
I mean yes ofc
I like the idea of those kinds of guns but the chargeup kind of sucks if things aren't all stacked
Tbh I'm not wildly into it either. If I'm using a weapon with a charge up it's burst cannon
My friend is a big BC user
I've been mostly Carbine / HC
tried most of the guns tho
BC is good, takes a little bit to get used to the recoil, but it's really solid
Hel Revo is nice but I don't want to run Hel Revo / HC
DMR/DTR and HCP/Combat Shotty for me most of the time
I've had people say DTR is not good
So
but at early* Rundowns at least I'm sure its all viable
It's not easy to use
I started with Scout Rifle and something else not great my first mission lol
You gotta consistently hit heads with both shots to make it actually one shot shooters and strikers, but if you can fo that consistently? It's good.
DTR is an akward spot. Amazing on paper, feels like shit to use.
I really like it, conversely.
You only get true value out of it by getting a flawless body-head one-burst-kill on every burst.
So high skill cap
I am apparently one of the only people who really likes it
Very much so yes.
I mean generally people gravitate to easy things right
Generally speaking, yes.
Depends which kind of people
so if you can technically do ^ very well with DTR but its ultra high skill cap, or do real well with Carbine 95% of people are taking Carbine
DTR is just an aim check imo, personally I just like headshot weapons in games. They feel more rewarding to use well.
When you manage to sweep a wave with DTR? That's a great feeling.
I'll give it another try
nah you just take hel revo
Hel Revo seemed like a gun with a high reward for good play
If you're good at aiming just take hel rev
I like DTR aesthetic more
bruh where the fuck is everyone. no one is joining r8d1 lobbies lol
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Is short rifle bad cause its bad or cause its a special? or both
both
Because it's basically a weird Assault rifle, is what I was told
0.5 stagger
only reason
I thought it was decent to use from a gunplay perspective but felt weak
nah its just pure shit
So I guess if they bump stagger slightly might be decent
At the end of the day it doesnβt matter. Bottom line: the game does not work correctly on the steam deck. The community is aware and are working to address the issues. How long it takes it depends on them and what they find. Either way it doesnβt bode well for 10 Chambers. Either they acknowledge the problems and work alongside the Linux community or donβt and risk pissing off an entire player base.
Even they know that it takes years to earn fans and only seconds to lose them.
Hmm Hel Revo / Hel Rifle too niche of a loadout?
nah
I'd just worry about taking weapons that fit what the map needs and what the team lacks, in that order tbh
yes especially on clients
Dont give bots heavy hitters
Just give them burst rifle/Veruta mg
They ignore chargeups and whatnot
Yes, blap a daddy or mommy twice almost done. Usually.
I love that to make the bots work they just flat out ignore so many mechanics
Stealth, charge ups, walls in general.
If only they didn't do FF
Its the reasonable middle ground
or at least FF'd themselves
If they were to let bots to charge machine guns - it means they would have to use the full fire rate. So its actually a nerf to bots.
I'd honestly love if they would stand in cluster scans for doors instead of on top of me
That's the single change I want
See Titanfall 2 legion in AI mode to see what bots burst-firing charge weapons woild look like
the hel rifle has so little charge up that you don't notice it, it's the fire rate that you'll notice more
damn it won't embed
They do if close enough
clusters just split a lot
Yeah well, I want them to do it better, pain running to almost every cluster circle
no wonder considering it even overshadows slug shotgun.
Anyone know how to get the log from R8A2 in zone_69?
that terminal doesn't have the logs command
its bugged rn, you cant get it
Yeah it says LOGS and READ are unrecognized commands or something
Only zone 51 of r8a2 is a readable log
Waiting next patch
damn
I don't have faith they'll release a new patch anytime soon π₯²
Trust the government
nah, there's tons of bugs they've never bothered to fix
I have a feeling this will be one of them
pretty sure docred has said numerous times they're working on a minor patch that would fix small stuff like this
Well you Can get it with other means
Using a mod
does it force the LOGS and READ to be useable or something?
No u Can noclip through and unlock thΓ© terminal while it still has the log
are there mods that make my fps go upwards
when does it have the log? before you enter the zone it's in?
Yes but no mord than +5
Devs confirmed they'd be patching this a couple days ago. "Can't leave achievements broken" were the exact words iirc.
what is it
It has the log before the checkpoint door IS open
ok and
it's not like they're gonna work on performance
game's done
new hardware will take care of it
talking about the logs
oh
if im not wrong theres a decent mod for performance but im not a good source so 
shit im sorry man
there's some settings in TheArchive that might improve performance
like turning off dust particles or the liquid system
This is great! Glad my hours of collecting logs wasn't wasted
i dont think the devs ever intentionally didnt fix smth
its either been not knowing about it (honestly also rly bad, but less so) or simply not getting reliable reproduction
Yeah, like, idk how they would fix the liquid bug since it's so fekkin rare
I never had it happen to me
scout mine bug probs wont be fixed
and it reliable
what's that?
the r7e1 scout bug where it goes off randomly
on 4th code stealth
huh
had to think about what that was for a sec
i actually have a better example tho
Door bug
which conflicts with my prior statement
so i will have to retract that
didn't they say they aren't gonna fix door bug?
then again
(Not that i necessarily agree)
i think thats an example of a bug that they decided that it wont have noticeable impact on games
yea thats why it makes my prio statement untrue
it can still happen without doing it intentionally
like enemies breaking the door right as you try to open it
had that happen on R8C1
i fucking love gtfo !!! [unironically i just felt like sayin it despite the convo]
i just ended a run so :3
im happy
gtfo is good
yep haha
- door would have to be on 1 hp
- afaik it would need to happen on first few frames of closing
I mean I wasn't the one who opened/closed the door
but it got bugged
and I don't think the other person did it intentionally
maybs u got just incredibly stupid chances
doesnt mean it can happen on the next 300 hours again
is this the one in the room with pablo?
This was sniper melee for I forget how long because it was way too long
It's the secret terminal underneath the staircase and behind a false wall in zone_69
ahhhh
hmm i didnt get the log there so idk
eh
I think they wanted it fixed
its jus that their communication was uh⦠ya know
Man sniper melee was a fiasco
it often feels like sniper melee is still a thing
ive had one unintentional door bug since the cfoam fix
And funnily enough that was when i tried door bugging anyway
a
a striker that was aggrod on the other side broke it when i wanted to hit it
That's just latency, sniper melee was a big problem just from being client even if you were really low ping to host
What level has the most giants? I am going to knife only it
R2B2 has a lot of giants
Perfect, I'm new so I don't have many levels unlocked. I will complete this challenge
time for another r1c2 solo attempt
prolly not cuz its not the same version plus u need to play thru steam
so what are the secret terminal commands other than the one they showcased if anyone knows?
i doubt discussing piracy is not violating ToS lol
la pizza sin ajo ni esta buena
dam
||start denofwolves.exe||
||start private_encryption.exe|| - btw I need explainng from devs who the hell named it that way.
use wisely those three. and only with friends.
||start light_testing.exe||
||start ventilation_overrride.exe||
||start threat_level_m.exe||
srry then, imma ask on reddit i guess
thank you!
ye
i'ma be real you're prob gonna get a similar answer on reddit
wonder how much datamining that took
whats the second one
log
a
private encryption is such a lame name

If we take this metaphor and the driver is the one who named this I can see how it would work. 
im so happy i wasn't the one who wasted their time finding it
unless theres some hidden message
ur so mad about a command
yes
no
lol
fr elbow has been so mad today
Why would.you.drink.water
no they added like 5
and then they add literally zero useful information
even though finding it requires tons of trial and error
what do u want to be it being all the answers?
because it's a easter egg
it's just worthless
would be so stupid to just put a png of all the lore
give us something at least
okay you see a shelf with 2 donuts, take the middle one.
i think this is already like well established
relax the rax
i expected more
that sounds an awful lot like a you problem
did you miss the part where it wasn't supposed to
afaik it was meant to be an arg kinda thing
where they have clues hidden around, like on their website or smth
but people figured out how to brute force it and did that
Remnant 2 had hidden class which by design was supposed to be datamined to be found.

gtfo had a bad history with datamines i doubt a dev would just reinforce it
I'm so don
10c would not go with that
im uninstalling this game rn
i love u all
try to recover your sanity
and go to bed
you can't make me
its actually a very cool log in my opinion but ok
when I went to r6d1 I found this input in terminals somehow lol.(not me who was hosting) ||https://i.imgur.com/r96TZcl.jpeg||
what the fuck
how did someone type on the terminal in lowercase
so how








