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R6C3
shouldnt be longer than the 35 minutes they give u
And R6D3
Yeah that's on the side of the ones that you're kinda forced to do at a certain pace anyway
R6d3 can take a bit but it shouldn’t take over an hour 10
running simulator
I mean when you look at stuff like R4B2
i could say it can take max an hour on r6d3 w pubs
It’s practically the same thing lul

they did this even before the sniper nerf tho lol
and its niche is "i can kill hybrids in range"
is it technically still best vs kraken? Yes. But PR is like 5% worse and an actual weapon LOL
Well a bit, on those maps however you CAN slack with the right group
I have an irrational fear of PR
because the error's meleeable
Should use it sometime
But when are you gonna go get a team like that lul
Precision Rifle is satisfying
if you can consistently hit headshots
@sharp owl
quickscoping is something I usually do with it 'cuz I find it easier than ADS'ing through the thermal scope
ending is fun, but god do i sleep in the stealth part
eh I got one when I did it on Alt but we took more than an hour not because of whatever but because we were legit lost
There we go
Yep
Avg clear in those levels are just 35-37mins
so you usually can hipfire sleepers heads when they get close
isntead of aimaing
aiming
it fits snuggly around their head
But fuck me does R4B3 takeeees it long
Yeah that's also a boring one
Id take C3 over B3 anyday
tbf against especially hordes hipfire is better than aiming close by imo
To be honest, after seeing R8C1's thing about selecting either Main or Overload, I think if they could they'd done the same with that level, and others
i dont even remember b3
i was legit so confused with this take until you added the other comment
the fastest pub i had was like 55 min and that was just actual players
the others ranged from 1 hour 5 to 1 hour 40 (tho that one was 3 newbies that i intentionally let play at their pace)
yeah sorry
Overload is term comm and kill 1-2 moms, Extreme is Cryos with giants and hybrids, Main is 3 uplinks
Terminal on
with mon
nah dave i was just confused af
1 force
i was like "is davegoose a WIZARD"
1 you can skip
WRONG! I have an original personality so i didnt play r7d2 100 times
nah i said max, and then took a min to realize what i said
Honestly i take longer cause of the fact i was tired of pubs
And didnt bother to talk anymore
What does Eric Chapman thinks about that?
What's his take on r7d2
ohhhhh yeah
Youve made the soul of henrikson sadge
i think i played that level like 4 times to help them out
He will not have a good rest
then i never went back to that level
Pretty long ass level
r7d2 is fun but overrated
go play r2d1
yeah
And you can go for both class 3 full teams and
at the same time
Wdym the
is so fast lul
trueee
But yet again the main of B3 sucks
Starts a annoying ass error when i didnt bring the cryo back

2 man mele error/2 man silent clear for mom

@little ridge most hated sector “
” (which level is it) in your opinion
Which one I hate the most of which one is the most hated by people?
Yours first
Go
Personally I REALLY think R5C2 Extreme could be something else and the map'd be fine
Reactor?
Like, I dont know, gather a plant, gives an extra cell
I think it fits
Yes
It's boring compared to Overload and doing Main after that is basically a chore
On a good scale i think it fits for a extension of a C tier
Fog, get 3 cells in 3 gens behind 3 blood doors
That's it, no alarms, no nothing IIRC
Yeah it sucks with no detox
But fucklong zones
R5E1 flashback
Like, there's challenging stuff that I get why they exist, like R4C3's Overload, adds an hard error and you get to fight a tank, nice
But some sectors seem to exist just to make the map longer
As for which one people hate the most I've no idea
Maybe exactly R4C3's Overload
What was it again?
I only remember the
alarm point after it
hsu scan starts error of chargers, and you need to kill a tank for bulkhead key
yeah
I've seen him spawn stuck once
No idea how or why
Well thats easy to expect it
Could have been desync
Desync really causes alot of enemies to spawn in and sit still forever
R8E1 is a great example
Trueeee
They really decided to push both the players and the game engine for the last level of the game
Literally yesterday artek
We had a tank stuck
It didn’t spawn it was sleeping after the class VI
And it got stuck lul
R5D1 secondary spawns 2 P-mothers instead of 1 at the end (bullshit) and R7D1 spawns 4 snatchers instead of 1 every 4 min (god why)

For the added challenge. If you are lucky the secodnw ave of 4 snatchers spawns 4 seconds after the 1st one.

Oh no, oh no no
Oh yes! 
stuff that needs fixing
hopefully soon
maybe not for r7d1
for 2 pmoms that sucks. I did this level and it didn't bug out for me. And you can't even know if this bug happened untill you opened the door to pmom lol.
did steam crash again
Wednesday so probably maintenance time
chewsday around 3-4pm maintenance day is pain
I watched some old clips and I wonder whats the differences of bio tracker then n now
cause the ads on it is quite interesting
it used to be based
difference was being based
:I can I get a serious answer or no
Does he know?
No
😏
u guys know the A2 secondary code?
@lost lynx
109775242310555130
theres no difference, the animation probs just changed to be easier on the eyes and not so 'in your face'
if i had to guess
same as the mines and the foam, u dont neet to aim it ever so they just do a simple animation


i add :3
Hello 🙂
Anyone had the problem of the bot, not going in the security scan ? They dont seem to recognise what to do and dont go in the orange circle
hello, uhh its a rare bug that happens every once a while
best you can do is kick the bot
u can fix it by the host pressing esc, kicking the bot
or tell the host to kick the bot
and then either doin the scan as is or puttin the bot back in
also if the bots are refusing to place equipment do the same thing
perfect thank you
they might also refuse to put down tools if theres enemies asleep and glowin
thats not a bug thats just bots doin sneak
oh yeah, if they dont say something like "no" when you ask them then it is a bug
'i cant do that'
Just download 'dauda' mod and everything becomes dauda
its just ur skill issue
there you go
saw that a couple of times, but just redid and move a little and it was working
and you can make all voicelines 'cough'
probs enemy wasnt glowin or uh the position was impossible or idk coulve been a 10k things
Yeah they say that if they cannot place in that spot / enemies stop them from moving
how common is it for 2 enemies to spawn inside eachother?
very rare
Uncommon. Best I've seen are two sleepers kissing each other
It doesn’t happen unless they have aline (this is normally used for boss spawns )values in which case it will always happen
ive only seen it once, 2 bbs spawned on top of each other in the pit in r8d1
Because they have the same values they always spawn like that
Every time
mhfg
I had 2 ||Charger giants|| spawn inside eachother 😭
On r8d1
yeah
They always do that
wonderful
It isn’t rng it is how the spawns work
hopefully it gets fixed
Ehhh it doesn’t really matter you rarely interact with that room full stealth
Kill scouts then pull it is always best play
Favorite palette?
santonian vestis, or maybs the new one thats just like that one but its white and purple
i also used heat for a while
Ah
So you like white?
usually :]
it pops out more than the usual like default palettes
i used black paletted but santonian vestis just got me in love ksmdkm
Nautical Dusk
"hum somethings off"
I have decided the Heavy SMG is pretty fun
I like it with the burst cannon
Simply cause it has so much ammo and it feels good for killing hordes
i like it cause first funny sounds funny gun, and then cause the recoils super easy and i feel im doi good dmg
burst cannon i dont take it tho almost never lol
yeah thats a weapons job kmdkm
gottemmmm
yeah i need to play with it more ksmdkm
i need to start goin out of my comfort wepaons
I can recommend the Burst Cannon, I like the HCP a lot, and the DTR is always wicked
dtr its fun i take it when i play for haha
hcp i do play with when i want a clear lol
and i see no one takin big guns
Precision rifle is nice too ig, I wish it had more ammo in a mag tho
the reload kills me quite a bit on it
Yeah, it's quite slow
wuh
Lol
yeah pretty much
Okay now you lost me
i mean its full auto idk what to ask from it lol
Whataboutism doesn't mean anything
have u tried sniper sentrys firerate
They can both have slow fire rates
now thats snipe
Lmao
If it's faster for me to manually click, a gun has a slow fire rate
PR's fire rate is def not slow but sure
I can manually fire it faster then it fires
its more a lemme realing to take another shot not really that its slow
unless u spam it but u shouldnt ever
It's not spam if the shots are connecting
why do you need so much fire rate on a 1 shot headshot gun
its spam if u llike hold it lol
wha
Infact I explicitly said the fire rate is fine where it is
But someone asked what aspects were slow besides the reload
And I mean, the fire rate is definitively "slow"
🫃
SLENDI ASKING FOR CARRY?
🤨
:[
R8 pubs suck, just saying
its almost 10PM and me sleepy
makes me feel better
That's always the case
Excuses
I can't, I have plans tonight
If you lfg'd like 2 hours earlier, I could've helped :)
qwq
That's not very John 🪣 of you
Don't cry, just 🫃
whats the easiest A level for trigger discipline achievement
R7A1
thats the easiest a1 in general so yeh
whats that achivement about?
No pew pews
no guns

smh
Do R5A2 PE
no
do these nuts
uh rn
🫃
🙋 🔥
qwq
No
hows the LFG going?
uh we are two people
the hate for r8c1 goin strong i guess
but this is not even an ov lobby just main and sec lol
:[
That bad, huh?
R3a3
LMAO
Did you join my melee only attempts at that level
me? nope
probably did it sounds fun
until you get recator desynced and licked from 20 meters away
recator
yeah
will we be able to unlock all the apparels in gtfo? or are they like lucky drops only?
I believe there's enough missions to unlock it all
There is not
I thought there were 70 something cosmetics and 80 missions?
Nuh uh
Ofc you can't get the prior event stuff but
Its the other way around
Yeah, but you get a couple cosmetics free off the rip
Some from doing all the rundowns
Do you really not get everything sans event stuff from doing missions?

More than 100 cosmetics (not including unattainable/limited item/exclusive) for ~80 missions
Unlockable
Misinfo again

Oh shit
Damn, I might not be able to look my very best
My dreams of being in my Sunday finest, crushed
algum brasileiro kkk?
Hwat
By the way void
R4D2 double
scan is definitely silent patched
I read the bottom paragraph of the wiki but it predates rundown 8.0 apparently, my bad
You sure? I dont think so
I tried to do the meme above if you scroll up
But after 35 loads ins
I dont get it
Cant be bothered to look just send iz aggain
i did post the both bulkhead scan video if its fixed i want to know since R4D2 is my go 2 map for easy clears
Just play r7d2 🫃
Got bored
Well it’s easy clears, never said it had to be fun 😏
Its fun , but i did a lot of runs on it. Its not the same now
I could say R8B4 is easy , the map is simple
The fact that you said that
Made me pretty pissed off at pubs
Bots also gets sweept if they get pinned by nightmares
I did use bots but they didnt wanna reload in right after i got to go for second cell
1st was easy
2nd cell is kinda cringe if you get the north cell blood door
The 24% regen speed saved the run
I just took 100% infection ressist
The resources in each zone is basically R6C3 
And that shit is plentiful
True cant argue there
Its where the shotgun sentry shines as well
Cause funneling is fun and stress free
Shotgun and Auto
Honestly auto dont do much
The shotgun kills
Which was heavily needed cause they get stuck on the team
Helps stagger waves of nightmares
Yeah but the nightmare counts is practically non existent
And you can gun them down easy
Its just the fact that they often like to rush in without taking any stagger
Well i guess 1 autopistol does the same
I also did take notice
Shotgun sentries really fuck nightmare strikers up on close range
Insta tumor blast
No economic and on time dps
Id take pdw better ig
But if thats what id take ill pair it with scattergun
Hell shotgun rather
Then youd be a weight pull on lone hold
The 1 man plus shotgun sentry 1st cell hold proves to be very fucking effective
Why 1 man?
Another has to walk in the middle of the room so the nightmares don’t spawn on top of the 2 cell/extra resources grab
@lost lynx
thx
People weren't kidding when they said R3 is easier then R2
well yea
E levels a mf, huh?
R3 easiest rundown after R1
r5d1 when
step 1: kill tank, step 2: profit
Jokes aside, there should be a bunch of guides on yt
Yeah, that's normal. He's a bitch.
HES MORE THAN A BIYCH😭😭😭😭
There are 2 routes to trying to deal with that scan... Well... 3, actually, but still.
cfoam doors.
Refoam after team scans
Kill wave/snatcher
Kill tank
Resume scans
Route 1: Kill tank, somehow. Problem: he takes up spawning points, so his death will make consequent waves of nightmares notably more brutal.
Route 2: Just kite and avoid tank thus making nightmare spawns weaker. Kinda dependant on scan RNG, because if scan goes into his vicinity - its gg.
Route 3: Don't do extreme scan and settle for some infection instead.
Either don't mine doors, or ask the miner to put them at his head level, so that the snatcher couldn't activate them prematurely
only 1 and 3 are actual options unless you wanna include long kiting aswell pff
im in game.. how do i drop cargo?
thanks
save c-foam grenades for the tank to kill it easily
throw c-foam grenades at him until he's frozen, and have a person with Scatter (preferably a client) take care of him, with at least 1 other person shooting him
the other 2 (or just 1 person) should hold off the waves until you've killed the tank
im kinda potato with r4c3 fog anywhere, need help, yes i know lfg
Ironically that's how i got my clear, but it was SUPER lucky. Last 2 scans blessed us. The pre-last scan went on a stone balcony on the side and Kaiser could just pester tank below from there and keep him distracted, then the last scan went in front of the highest door in the room leading to the kiting zone, which created a perfect natural funnel for nightmares as well. We just scanned that, and immediately retreated into the kiting room and just grinded the survivors down from there, tank included.
I do have to concede that it was pure luck. If that scan went anywhere else - ESPECIALLY downstairs for a meeting with the tank - we probably would wipe. But... Its a way, i suppose.
Getting the tank killed on that section is just such a monumental task, because of the nightmares.
I had an idea to try and save the 2nd small door and use a cfoam grenade to try trapping the tank inside and then perma-foaming the door while squad kills him, but i never got to execute it properly.
How much melee booster % do I need so I can 1 tap chargers using knife?
just 1 muted steroid
it takes a full charge and a slash to kill them normally
Front or back?
Apparently it deals 28 damage from the back of a sleeping enemy
So you are only 2 damage short
^
Or only 8% off
So yeah, any booster that's 8% or more. 7% might work too due to roundings and shit.
Back
Ah ok, only 1 more tiny slash needed without booster
👍
THe new knife sounds fun, i should try it
you can break giant limbs with one hit now if you're behind them
so it makes stealthing them very viable
(it's also very fun to do)
I think i'll just keep avoiding them generally, i just want to be the funny haha backstab man
I wanna get better at it
I've already successfully solo'd a bunch of giants with knife without getting hit :)
only problem is when they turn sideways when you hit them, you gotta re-orient yourself behind them
and if you're client they sometimes turn around a second time right as you break a limb
It's more 1.95 iirc
im gon' round that b
For the most part your second hit doesn't need to be a back hit on chargers
But if you also don't have perfect back damage you will not be able to slash for the second hit
Given strikers can live with 0.3 hp and etc. I rather not
5.5 x 3.4 = 18.7 x 1.5 = 28.05
Rounding down moment
A friend of mine uses some other damage numbers mod that rounds up and I was wondering where tf he kept getting these damage numbers that didn't add up
The one use for dashes?
Sliding behind the giant when they spin after the first hit
whats the password in R8A2
Thank u kind sir
i really need to finish r8 because that mask looks sick
it is
it is :3
i still need my beloved santonian mask tho thats the one i want to complete the santonian outfit
me no like santonian
🥠
did someone leave a sentry behind or something
i know kaiser did n triggered mom n scout 
lol
Yeah
I tried to smack a sleeper
and accidentally shot my shotgun yesterday that alerted everyone
i defo hadnt triggered rooms cause i placed a sentry facing a door incase i need to pull and have the sentry shoot an enemy thr moment the door opened
no
we did nothing
we did nothing
literally
nothing
An enemy scream?
no
or insane desync
then the fuck did you do
it seems like our temamates
teammate
touch its feeler as it closed the door
we went back and then in insta triggered
somehow
ah yes
thats a know thing where scoot feelers alert on a side of the door but the scout doesnt get the message about the alert till you open the door
I workin all work days 14:30 - 23^00
You can catch me ~23:00+ unless i'm mega tired or IRL catches me otherwise
what timezone would that be
because unless you have a point of reference, 3pm to 11pm can be any time
Right now its 20:00 for me
so UTC+3
I don't understand the whole EMT SHMT thing so you'll have to work from there
ohhh
so 3 hrs later u free

im kidding we can move on weekends
@wary chasm

hop on vc
suck my Kovac Peacekeeper Bat
If it’s in the objective stack I’ll do so quickly and efficiently
Objective Stack Updated
🫡
wana do E2?
no
i wana game
+2
+4
whats hard about r2e1
the uh level
the people you're playing with.
Surges.
How to make level hard? Send bazzilion extra enemies.
Pack it up lads, we solved difficulty
actually its replace strikers with chargers or nightmares
guh
exactly dude
im not touching e class missions
you're missing out
Anyone got a list of ''easier'' mission to solo ? I've done every first run (exempt the r8)
completed both
that's all i know
and i keep dying at R1b2
the trick is to keep alive all the shooters before hsu scan
just shoot
then glue your face to the pillar at extraction
R1B1 is the easiest one to solo, IMHO
and that's free
you do have a lot of giants to deal with in 39 and 40 though
I've soloed : R1A1, R1B1,
R2A1
R3A1
R4A1
R5A1, R5A2
R6A1
R7A1
Not fucking up stealth and dying to a horde of sleepos is the hardest part, really
That is why high cal is the gun of choice here
Dont know what's going on ; keep dying at 50% for the hsu scan lmao -_-
Oh right, we're not talking about pistols only achievement
even had 3 burst turret shooting XD
could try that
that's how i did it
just wake up both rooms of shooters
do the hsu scan while dancing around
and you'll get roughly 1-2 strikers spawning
with the rest being harmless shooters
Xd aight i'll try that
i think i was wasting too much, cuz i was getting all 3 cards and then i was opening for the level IV alarm (for the hsu).
do the hsu scan, as it ends shoot your gun
lets you avoid having to play dodgeball for a while
i'll try
I've soloed : R1A1, R1B1,
R2A1
R3A1
R4A1
R5A1, R5A2
R6A1
R7A1
very nice
Almost full map as well (but without secondary)
ive done r1: a1 b1 b2 c1 | r2: a1 | r7: a1
Almost the same
Typically that zone is optional if you decide to only go east & north
i'm scared to start the R8 XD
Is there a channel where we can post photos ? i'd like to see GTFO outfit
yeah the media one #gtfo-media
it's as shrimple as that
nice ! Just posted fit of the day
ty
i had the robot hand torso since 2022 and never realised FML
What have I cleared solo, r1a1 b2, og r6a1, r7a1, r8a1, I guess also r4e1 but thats facilitated by cheese so not indicative of being a good player
Og r5a1 too
ho was r8a1 ?
how was*
Its fine if you take your time, horrible if you're speedrunning for wr which is what I'm doing
That being said the foliage in one of the rooms is very annoying
its lovely for difficulty
but solo any shooter and flanki no striker is a nightmare
now double that for speedrunning
So many things can go wrong in the speedrun
i should rly get back into soloing. Maybe do some more r8
ive only rly done a few C and D tiers and those were the easy ones (and E1 main on R8 but thats lol)

The speedrun hurts a lot and I am salty I threw a 9:16 because nerves got to me
Me not even being able to imagine doing r1a1 over and over again for speedrun rng
That run was before hanis too
no work today?
died again -_-
should i switch my carabine + hell gun + burst turret for r1b1
the level4 one, for the door the z20, right cuz the hsu is in zone 20c
that sounds like you're talking about b2 not b1
yeah
b1 is find PIDs
b2 is hsu
for b2 i took guns that can reach out
burst rifle and veruta
because you hold in a big room
Just finished R8A1 solo in 50min
"hell"
just take revolver lul @analog flicker
because the alarms are not all shooters
dummy
they are normal alarms
who gives a crap about stealth
i can leave my guns at home and do fine with stealth
you're scared enough of shooters not to take mg
uh huh
a practical prisoner
who knows
alarms are the hard part in solo
stealth just takes longer
sure
dont know why you gotta be defensive on the term machine guns are for realist but mmkay
because there are no strikers
ok im going insane
the alarms are hard
that's why machinegun
rest is easy
you really are making a fuss about it
so why me poppin heads cause my pro headshottin skills are some what afraid ?
take pr then not it's inferior brother
12dmg
i thought you clicked heads
seethe and cope lul
yeah but not that sweaty
unlike you i do not enjoy long down time and having less kills than the whole team

im not sayin that it sucks
i thought we were talking about solo
sure even on solo
it still leaves open down time to get ran by
im not autistic enough to go solo
Imagine playing gtfo
its 16min level
and not just waiting for dens of wolves
leave it bruh
imagine waitng for DoW
ok sorry
and not on payday 3
I'm just messin witchu

waiting for 1 day you invite me to a heist
no
das crazy
imagine askin raite?
what you guys were talking about anyways
R1B2
primary?
🫄
burst rifle
but why solo tho
nah he practice solos
🫃
solo runs are my religion
I trust the devil more than you
satan got more credibility
You like Isaac Asimov, xml, and shoes with toes. You think the Segway got a bad rap. You own 3D goggles, which you use to view rotating models of better 3D goggles. You type in dvorak.
You like Isaac Asimov, xml, and shoes with toes. You think the Segway got a bad rap. You own 3D goggles, which you use to view rotating models of better 3D goggles. You type in dvorak.
Ranger flow
I had some much cheese in my pocket they tought i was a fucking calzone
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh
BARS
we are 2
Solo or true solo?
(I hate this jargon but whatever it's been set in stone)
He was practicing alone for a while
solo versus friendless
theres solo true solo solo with friends solo with hacks solo soloing and solito
And there is "this server without slendi"
I don't like it when you are here so you gotta move
ok
dances
I like to truebsolo missions just to prove to myself it's my team's fault
And because it's good practice
I didn't attempt r1c2 for 3 weeks and now look at me
Can't even hold the class 4 alarm in r3a1 without dying
Rust buildup
how will you confirm that for E tiers
no i don't like
I don't lose r4d2 PE and then just casually solo it
I just do a or b levels to keep myself sharp and stop worrying that I'm trash
I did r5b3 secondary today
The trick was to spam mines
Our mine deployer guy turned every door into a minefield
half of r5b3 is an error, and the other half is a sustain scan
where were you spamming mines
mines are great there if you can't rely on your teammates to shoot anything
players suck.
play with better players then
Nah it worked great
Promise
We were done with those things like instantly nobody went down
I think carbine needs less range
It's an smg derivative but has the best range out of all of them
Sniper
I think it's late for a balance patch
Snipe per
oh god I just realized that Snipe is an anagram for
Stop
Neutralise
Intercept
Prepare
Extract
cause it has thermal so it needs bit of a slap
ITS NEVER LATE!
this is 10cc
they take 3 months for this
its normal
Slug shotgun
people with bad aim will say its bad
Give slug shotgun better stats i need to run it
I want to run it it's such a good idea
It's like a high cal primary
cant slug 1 tap chargers + scouts?
Wasn't it 27
oh yeah i forgot this is new gtfo
no slug does 21
Okay
21
Still
Fancy a tourist guide?
Give it the pump actions fire rate what are u doing making it so slow
I want to love that gun so much
it is a bit slow, yes
But it's just too slow
reload cancel is good though
well it can 1 shot chargers to the back
still think the sawed off is way better though
and scouts to either head or back
It's a primary shotgun
Need not be too good
Don't mind hel shotty tho
It would be amazing
I keep forgetting because Ive been playing my rundown and some of the weapons are modded
Including slug being full auto
a
b
Wouldn't it be incredible having a primary pump shogun specifically for clutching against like a wave of strikers
This is slugs purpose
This is it's reason for existing
I am begging make it shoot faster
Don't even give it range
why are you confused by that?
Choke mod has better range, dumps damage super fast and reloads slow
Where are the similarities
Then you just get weird sawed off variant
which is why I said mini
Consistent
Cuz slug
Like pls
It's d tier anyway
slug shottie if anythin i think it feels more like a mini normal shottie
6 vs 8 in mag, same reload, about sameish range
it's super accurate though
When i first used the high cal
I wished i could take 2 of them
Then they add slug shotgun which is a diet high cal
And they make it too slow
I'm so close to having 2 high cals
(except Hel Shotgun and Sawed Off ignore those)
sawed off its, fine tho i needs to get the bigger mag nerfed to how it was
hel shottie idek what u could neft tbh
nerf
ah yes
thats not quite how u balance a broken gun
infront of every shot or just at the start :^ )
Increase chargeup as needed
give it a 5 second charge up between each shot
Nono, you also want to give every weapon thats weak pen
:^ )
would need like one full second
At the start, it's an automatic
hel slug shottie- no dont
imagine adding fucking charge up to a gun at random
It's a hel gun
hel revo charge up
hel weapon
They have charge up
lol
Hel pp charge up
Yes
2/5 do
And that's wrong
mini machinegun
Pew pew
Time for a change

no it's more like brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Image hel rev had charge up would be funny wouldn't it
It would be
Lower case brrrr
br
Csgo R8?
Yes les goooo
i remember when this was an unironical take back in og r6
now it rly is just a meme
Anyway bout carbine
carbine is fine :)
its rly strong but fine
instead of nerfing all the good weapons
Tbh I don't commonly see people using carbines
how 'bout we make all the weak weapons some-what on par with them?
Yes good idea
assault rifle hasn't been changed in ages btw
Lets give assault rifle 5 more bullets per magazine
I've been trying out a lot of weapons lately and my favorite loadout is still DTR+HCP
Probably because the devs want the game to be harder > easier
Then some would blend with others
it died down slightly after a nerf a few rundows ago but its been a top 3 staple since R7 (so over 1 1/2 years ago)
Wouldn't be as "unique"
OG R6 
lol
buffs scattergun
Yeah, I've heard. I heard the main reasons it's good is cause it's "overstatted"
Also I wouldnt be suprised if they used some guns as middle points and balance others around them
Its got a very strong output
high firerate, decently big mag. Good base dmg.
Then some more comfort stuff like hipfire and recoil
honestly main weapons are rarely rly overstatted
hel shotty is the exception
but it has major draw backs
specials on the other hand
lookin at scattergun
Scatter is probably the only weapon that you can easily nerf without breaking its useage or making it „worse worse“
Scatter is fine but client abuse is funny
keep its dmg. Nerf its precision
„Fine“ lol

