gtfo-chat

[sharp owl]

stealth takes so long

when i try not to lose half my health because some asshole sleeper decided to ruin my day

why am i so bad at this when i used to be good without using my brain

[ripe void]

i was thinking of a specialized weapon that would shoot paralyzing arrows
(crossbow)

[lusty river]

😘

[ripe void]

if bbcs are like giants

then you can just kill it easily with scattergun

im not sure

[rose nova]

no cause u want distance between bbcs and u, they punch too much and they rush u down whole being way faster than a normal giants so its way more dangerous

[ripe void]

how do you kill em

stealth?

[rose nova]

if u have full group yeah melee if they are asleep but if not guns

[ripe void]

@rose nova btw can we play tomorrow

[stone sleet]

thats sick

[rose nova]

yeh chures

[ripe void]

yay

:d

[rose nova]

:3

[gaunt eagle]

should I join channels with only 1 person and see if I can go in with them?

[keen elbow]

you should figure out the level you want to do and open your own channel

joining #lfg-beginners on any A or B levels is also okay for your first time

[gaunt eagle]

I know what level I want to play

Should I be in-game already, before trying to join a group?

[keen elbow]

okay then make a LFG for it

why are you trying to join random groups when you know the level you want to play?

[gaunt eagle]

I want to play the first level. And do it right and slow, not with people who already know where to go and just run to the goal like mad...

[keen elbow]

okay, make a post in lfg-beginners like: LF3M R1A1 first timers preferred

[blissful dome]

just say

beginners preferred

:P

[burnt flume]

It's ill advised to break rule 7 (joining vcs randomly)

[keen elbow]

then join #create a team of 4 and put your lobby id in the status and probably in your lfg post too

[blissful dome]

rule 7 enjoyment

[gaunt eagle]

how do I "join #create"?

[sharp owl]

So as a new player with a friend, should we should just be runnig R1 to get familiar?

[keen elbow]

you could probably hop right in r6a1 or something

[gaunt eagle]

I dont run around if I dont know where to go. I walk, carefully, so I don't bump into monsters and dangerous places

[sharp owl]

Can you unlock new guns and weapons etc/

[keen elbow]

everything is ready to use from the get go

[sharp owl]

Okay. Is there any benefit to dooing all the R1 stuff etc? guess im still conf used on objectives/missions

[keen elbow]

you unlock cosmetics mainly and consumable boosters for your stats

not really, unless you like doing things in order

[sharp owl]

yeah me and my buddy are just playing for fun

[keen elbow]

its not as exciting design wise as the later rundowns since it was one of their first rundowns so it might be more fun to start on r6 or r7

[sharp owl]

might do the r1s to get used to thing

[gaunt eagle]

I created a team of 2. How do I create a team of 4?

[gaunt eagle]

Don't you "unlock" the story, in order?

[keen elbow]

join the create team of 4 channel

[gaunt eagle]

got it. I saw it just now...

[keen elbow]

okay, now make your lobby in game, and you should see an option to copy your lobby id in red if you look to the right side of your screen

you should paste that in your LFG post and your voice channel status

then people can join your lobby in-game

[shut vapor]

Only in r6/r7/r8. But before then, the only condition for progression is beating at least 1 stage of your current tier

You are welcome to challenge any rundown in any order you like

[blissful dome]

im pretty sure r6 and 7 progress normally

ignoring ax bx and cx

[ripe void]

I think I'm gonna complete all x missions tomorrow

(Help)

Apparently you can sprint and jump and the enemies will notice you much slower

[pine root]

Depends if you are on ping or not

[analog flicker]

Doesn't work if you are host as well.

[sick widget]

do mods disable achievments?

[lost lynx]

no

[ripe void]

:(

[bleak trail]

any spanish speakers ?

[lost lynx]

hola

[crimson cape]

yo merengues

[sullen socket]

Random necro but I once suggested GTFO to a new group of friends and one of them said they'd never play it again because they didn't like boring stealth games and always chose to go loud "Like in Payday 2"
I didn't stick around long in that group ...although it was for unrelated reasons to not understanding GTFO lmao

[shut vapor]

How can anyone not enjoy a bit of stealth :(

[sullen socket]

Idk
It's not even like there's that much required stealth in the early levels once you get a hold of the melee and waking mechanics

[pine root]

1 hour levels so boring

[junior latch]

R1A1 being a forced 90 min level is pretty bad

[sullen socket]

I don't really expect most people to want to play GTFO tbf

[shut vapor]

R5B4

[junior latch]

its niche for sure
My argument usually boils down to
You can love the game for its slow stealth or you realize you can play quick and dont need that

People who mald at slow stealth just need to learn faster gameplay. People who enjoy slow stealth enjoy their time already

[sullen socket]

I enjoy both so I am gaming in the best of both worlds

[indigo mulch]

Efficiency is in our DNA. I love the slower stealth aspect . But as I play more and more and learn the timings/windows of sleepers I find myself nearly running through rooms meleeing. And im sure that's why vets who are comfortable playing at 20% hp just sprint everywhere and wake everything up cause it turns a 1.5 hour expidition into a 20 minute run

[shut vapor]

As a vet i can confirm that we wake up enemies with our fast stealth because we suck

[indigo mulch]

that too , but when you know how to play at 20% hp it's still much faster

[pine root]

na I just don’t care about stealth any more

red light green light isn’t fun

[indigo mulch]

the 20% regen is a little too easy to play around

[junior latch]

at some point its a mix of not careing because 95% of the time you wont down anyway (or a down doesnt matter) and not wanting to slog through smth slowly

[pine root]

It is fine

[shut vapor]

And yet no-one likes infectious fog or spitters :(

[sullen socket]

I'm curious how fast me and my friends could clear R1A1 now we're actually experienced enough to be taking on C/D levels

[shut vapor]

Love me some spitters

[sullen socket]

because yea our first completion was definitely around 90mins lol

[pine root]

Probs like 5 mins

[worthy flicker]

It took my group of inexperienced friends and myself about 20 minutes to unga bunga

So, if you're actually good at the game, probably less

[sullen socket]

I have no clue what good at this game even looks like

[pastel rain]

Hey, can the spear still mutlikill? I’ve seen some older videos where a guy with a spear pierces through enemies and kills 2 at a time (or even a guy that somehow killed 4 enemies in a single hit)

Is this still the case?

[sullen socket]

lmao I wish

[junior latch]

7 is a good base line id say

[slim rose]

All melee weapons can technically get multi kills, but it's something that occurs by accident far more often than on purpose.

[lost lynx]

oh?

[junior latch]

unless you are chill dude

[pine root]

What do you mean by this?

[junior latch]

dude has a PhD in this

[pine root]

Yeah double hits are skill based

Not luck

[junior latch]

bruh jish

it happens more by accident than intentionally

[slim rose]

If 2 enemies are close enough to each other (and I mean really close) then sometimes you'll hit both of them.

[junior latch]

scaler might not 100% know why they happen. But the point is true

[pine root]

We go for hits that would have it happen more often than not

[slim rose]

But it's not something you can practice for hours on end and then be able to pull off consistently.

[pine root]

You are just wrong

About this tbh

[sullen socket]

wait so does that mean the spear never actually had piercing it was just able to get multikills more because of the range

[indigo mulch]

i just recently saw my friend spear 2 sleepers at once

[junior latch]

Theres a specific tech (due to melee mechanics) that can be abused where it happens regularly

[junior latch]

no. It had pierce in og r6

[sullen socket]

Is there an official reason why it doesn't anymore

[junior latch]

It got nerfed

[slim rose]

Wasn't fully intended and was too powerful.

[pastel rain]

So, if i line 2 sleepers up that are close enough will they die or no?

[junior latch]

spear doesnt pen anymore

[sullen socket]

Sadge

[junior latch]

the multi hit „tech“ is something pretty obscure

it will happen by accident for basically 99,9% of all players

[slim rose]

Eva does it have something to do with connection?

[junior latch]

no

[pastel rain]

Bummer

[junior latch]

@wraith marsh (sry for ping) can explain it well as he does it the most basically

[pine root]

It is just when your hammer hitbox interlaps with two sleepers at the same time

[pastel rain]

It realy feels like the spear is kinda meh at dealing with mutliple dudes

But i guess that’s the tradeoff for beeing able to solo giants safely

[pine root]

It can be done consistently if you just don’t hitscan sleepers

[slim rose]

Spear is a bit niche as it's meant to more safely deal with giant type enemies.

[sullen socket]

the spear is just meh period in exchange for safety wheels for scouts and giants

[slim rose]

But not many levels throw so many giants at you that you'll see it shine there.

By no means is it a horrible melee option. Just not a prefered one for people who play more aggressively and fast paced.

[wraith marsh]

all the melees basically have like a

[slim rose]

But I'd never consider someone taking a spear on the team to be trolling.

[wraith marsh]

flat plane where they connect with an enemy

but its like

[pastel rain]

Yeah, we aint at that point:))

[wraith marsh]

surprisingly large

if you dont hit scan

[sullen socket]

I honestly really enjoy using the spear on occasion

[wraith marsh]

so you can use this to have it connect with multiple enemies at the same time

[sullen socket]

the extra range does feel nice sometimes

even if you can't run with it

[pastel rain]

Just got through rundown 1 yesterday, and we still playing slow and steady

[slim rose]

Ah thank you for the information Chill Dude.

[pine root]

I don’t think he knows about hit scan verse not tbh

that is where the luck misconception comes from most of the time

[junior latch]

No jish

it comes from it being accidental

[pine root]

Then idk how you say it is luck

[junior latch]

Accident litteraly being the word used first

[pine root]

Just because I was an accident doesn’t mean I am lucky

[junior latch]

Yea

and you started talking about luck

scaler didnt know about double hit tech

[slim rose]

Who needs double hit tech when you only run knife.

[junior latch]

[sullen socket]

shamnk

[pine root]

@slim rose do you know about how to hit scan vs not

[sullen socket]

I would run knife but I'm not good enough at hitting scouts with it yet

and my friends are all less experienced than me so they make me stealth the scouts lol

[pine root]

#short-clips message

[gaunt lichen]

does this include giants? I've done it accidently a few times on sleepers but haven't seen a giant double hit

[wraith marsh]

it works on literally everything

[slim rose]

Jumping when you go for the occiput hit helps with Knife kills on scouts.

[sullen socket]

Aye

I remember that from your melee guide lmao, I just haven't quite got the technique yet

[pine root]

You can double hit mom and tank

[slim rose]

Understandable. I would say of all the melee weapons knife takes more skill then the others since you have to land your hits precisely. Hammer, Bat, and Spear aren't quite the same. (Well spear is also precision but has better base damage so not as punishing for missing a hit as knife.)

[sullen socket]

It is very addictive

hehe sleeper heads go pop at mach 5

[pastel rain]

Yeah, i’ve seen what it did to my friend

Half the time he plays with the knife it seems like he’s on crack

And then giants appear

[sullen socket]

Except with the recent buff
Now knife also (kinda sorta) stands a chance against giants (singular)

[pastel rain]

He saw me ocasonally solo giants

And tried a few times

Just to get absolutely deastroyed

But we aint that great tbh, so we do take extra precautions in most cases

[sullen socket]

Mood

[uncut lynx]

do licks from strikers and big strikers count as melee attacks or ranged?

[wispy bluff]

Melee, only various projectiles are "ranged"

[uncut lynx]

ok great thank you

[serene fox]

Anyone wanna do a quick game?

[lusty river]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[cunning willow]

Currently having an issue where the bots are refusing to get onto a scan and will just stand there

Any advice/help?

[pine root]

despawn then respawn them

Go to the lobby screen make it players only then back to bots

[cunning willow]

Is this a known bug that is looking to get fixed or just something that's being left in the game because "eh"

And thank you 🙂

[trim sail]

devs fixing bugs in this game ?

i must be dreaming...

[cunning willow]

I needed that good laugh after dealing with bots on this rundown

[pine root]

It is a known bug

[cunning willow]

Actually a tragedy

I don't have 3 other friends (who have good enough aim kek) that play this game frequently

[coral light]

Time to find a mod with a kick function. First time ever experiencing trolling

[blissful dome]

Could try the lfg :P

[indigo citrus]

Русские новички

[lilac ferry]

誰か色々教えてください😩

[sleek hatch]

日本人がいるじゃん

[sleek hatch]

一緒にやりますか

[lilac ferry]

zehi!

[lilac ferry]

おねがいします！

[sleek hatch]

オーケー

[lilac ferry]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1191704938699563078

Let's play together

[kindred mural]

It took a long while but I finally beat R4 100%

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2300841854472332677/0753BA3035A0DEACF22C09340298A42B479E6B6C/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[kindred mural]

R4D2 and R4E1 were hard

[little ridge]

On geforce now means doing r4e1 in less than an hour

That's very nice

[kindred mural]

Hahaha

I'm also using Geforce Now but on Ultimate tier

We finished the reactor secondary but then I got a popup saying the rig I was using was going under maintenance in 5 min and I started panicking

[little ridge]

Most non-speedrunning clears I saw are between 70 and 100 mins for r4e1 extreme

[kindred mural]

I had to restart the game and it migrated hosts and the other guys had to redo the last wave without me because of it

[real jackal]

at what point One stops being beginner

[lost lynx]

never

[junior latch]

depends on each persons idea of what that entails

for me many people are beginners until like 100 hours in. Can vary on player basis tho.

[real jackal]

hmh

[analog flicker]

There's just a lot to learn

[shut vapor]

C tier is the absolute limit imo

[analog flicker]

Even 500 hours are still learning new things here and there

[little ridge]

For NOT being a beginner? eh not that much IMHO

One might not be a good player but definitively not be a beginner

[analog flicker]

[shut vapor]

[analog flicker]

Sleepo. You gotta account for that people get to difficult levels with the beginner mentality

Which can add up to 100 hours

[junior latch]

for me theres also a difference between newbie (no or little clue) and beginners (understands the absolute basics)

Beginners can still get through some of the easier D tiers albeit with a struggle

[analog flicker]

I particularly dislike if they got hard carried in actual harder levels.

[junior latch]

thats often why some people might be hard to judge

[little ridge]

IMHO if a guy knows how to kill something without waking the shit up (even if they rarely manage to do it), how to bonk scouts, and ROUGHLY how alarm works (get in circles and enemies spawn 2 rooms away from you) that's already enough, really

I dislike using hours because it's a shit metric 99% of the times

[junior latch]

imo those are all beginner level skills

thats stuff you can learn in 2 hours

[analog flicker]

Basic skills

[sharp owl]

you stop being a beginner when you solo r4e1

[analog flicker]

[little ridge]

yeah

[analog flicker]

There's a load of beginners then

[sharp owl]

yup

[junior latch]

well scout is maybe beginning of advanced

[shut vapor]

Secondary*

[little ridge]

Knowing how to do something and actually being effective at doing it correctly repeatedly are 2 different things of course

[sharp owl]

that is true too

[analog flicker]

Send em straight to black hop canceling

[little ridge]

Hours is a bad metric

usually at least

[sharp owl]

Imo you stop being a beginner when you understand all the fundamentals of the game and you can consistently do difficult things like stealth a scout or pull your weight in alarms

[shut vapor]

Eva is my favourite beginner

[junior latch]

Agree

Its why i set the time personally somewhat highish

[analog flicker]

Mine is Mako just because he do a funny

[junior latch]

[analog flicker]

[shut vapor]

[sharp owl]

black dragon is my favourite beginner

[analog flicker]

Based_dragon is my favorite too

[junior latch]

Thats a solid take

scout killing consistently and pulling your weight in an alarm are both advanced. And if you got the basics down you no longer a beginner

[sharp owl]

they are advanced?

[analog flicker]

What it it's with knife?

Or even worse. Bat

[shut vapor]

Tbf if you don't know how to stay on top of a scan then you are a beginner

[little ridge]

When I taught elbow how to do that shit he bonked 3 scouts in a row or whatnot IIRC

[junior latch]

i usually call the stuff
Beginner
Advanced
Expert/veteran

[little ridge]

Took me WAY longer than like half an hour to learn that but I never had anyone teach me

[sharp owl]

ah

[junior latch]

Newbie*

[analog flicker]

Elbow learned their stuff relatively fast in my time playing with them a few times

Next to seeing em ask stuff in chat

[burnt flume]

elbow took the fast track route

[junior latch]

if you cant stay on scans you legit havent understood the game

I mean it happens to anyone sometimes. But newbies have their head in the clouds often

[sharp owl]

thanks for the kind words

[burnt flume]

r2e1 surge when someone steps out to shoot a couple of sleepers and throws the run

I will never forgive that pub, what a run

[sharp owl]

ptsd

[burnt flume]

yeah, really

[sharp owl]

no no

the funniest part is that the dude went out to place a sentry

[shut vapor]

May you recover one day

[analog flicker]

I have no understanding why people can't simply stand still in a scan

[junior latch]

i mean solo r1c1 is already on the verge of expert/vet honestly

theres way way harder stuff but its no longer casual advanced things

[analog flicker]

But they just HAVE to step out

[little ridge]

It either A- they think placing the sentry is more important B- they dont know team scans require all the players

Or both I guess

[analog flicker]

I've had it happen in various S scans

I'm just like. Why.

[junior latch]

Another clue that you are a beginner or even newbie maybe

Thinking sniper is good since it kills scouts

[little ridge]

I just shoot on the ground close to them to get their attention

[analog flicker]

Not Eva referencing his pub experience again

But not wrong

[junior latch]

i was so between crying and laughing my ass off

especially since he killed 1 scout and like 3 giants with it

#worth

[analog flicker]

The rifle/short rifle loadout guy

Made me cringe

[junior latch]

2 short rifles and a sniper

plus 2 shotgun sentries and sniper sentry the run before

r2d1 special

[little ridge]

heh

I had a guy go absolutely nuts on r2d1 for the weirdest reason ever

Basically he believed wee needed to go to 613 when it didnt have the cell

He didnt pull the alarm or anything so no harm done

But he started yelling at me because I apparently "Told him otherwise before"

And shit like that

[junior latch]

[little ridge]

I was stealthing a cell so I just took that out , brought close to the gen cluster and left the lobby

I think that he was exhausted because it was like his 10th try at that map

but not my fucking problem

[analog flicker]

Honestly what change would make short rifle "good"?

If we kept the 0.5x stagger that is.

I could only think rn.
Less ammo / 10 dmg

I never did look at the range stat of the gun

[junior latch]

changing dmg too much just changes the gun tjo

if you want stagger 0.5x

5 dmg
Better prec
Better range

at that point its a „ok“ gun

[analog flicker]

I was mostly looking at the 5 stagger dmg

But I suppose yeah

[analog flicker]

What if it had a higher than 1x precision?

[sullen socket]

At that point why not just use the regular rifle on main which can stagger without hitting weak points

Short Rifle feels like it's trying to be a main weapon in the special category

[wispy bluff]

the 4.5 dmg is the most baffling stat really

Everything else is fine, but like... Dafaq is that damage.

I genuinely fail to understand its' intended function from devs' perspective.

HEL would fix it right up though...

[sullen socket]

👀

[wicked solstice]

no please don’t

[burnt flume]

Even 10 pierce wouldn't be enough to persuade me into using that gun

[sharp owl]

do not hel it

[burnt flume]

Even if it was hel, in its current state it'd just be worse than hel gun

[sullen socket]

Do not hel the short rifle

[sharp owl]

short rifle has no purpose in life

first of all it's a main weapon

[burnt flume]

It's worse statted than a main weapon...

[sharp owl]

yeah idk

i guess they were going for a gunslinger type thing

but it's just so bad

[sullen socket]

It's like under 10 meters iirc btw

[sharp owl]

i would fix it by upping the range

stop giving precision weapons horrible ranges

slug shotgun

[sullen socket]

Yeah I know it's a short rifle but it's still a rifle

It should have better range than the fucking PISTOL

[sharp owl]

also give it 5 damage so you can 4 shot bodyshot strikes yes

maybe 5.01 to be fancy

[sullen socket]

Maybe 4.995

[wispy bluff]

i'd vote for 6 and nerf the ammo

It will overshadow HAR though, but it is what it is...

fair price for destroying your fingers

[sullen socket]

Not if the stagger is still 0.5 right?
Although I'm still learning how weapon stats in this game work tbh

[junior latch]

Will it tho

Will it

[wispy bluff]

To me - yeah

I came around on HAR's current recoil. I hate it.

[junior latch]

you also thought sniper got „changed/buffed“

[little ridge]

Buffon is a much better goalkeeper than Neuer

[junior latch]

Thats agreeable tho

[junior latch]

cope

:^ )

[little ridge]

Pffffff

Oh wait you were serious

AHhahahahha

[junior latch]

nah

[wispy bluff]

The ammo changes were great, but the shot delay was an overkill and i have no idea why they touched the reload speed and then didn't bother to post in the patchnotes

[junior latch]

neuer was top tier
But buffon carried italy a lot

[wispy bluff]

I have to genuinely wonder if its bad communication or someone changes these stats accidentally

[ripe void]

what

[junior latch]

look at the bullpup changes

what is similar between these 2 guns

[wispy bluff]

Increased reload speed

[ripe void]

everybody use bullpup

[wispy bluff]

Reloads too long, doesn't do too much

[ripe void]

whats the difference between smg and heavy smg

[wispy bluff]

They reverted it back where it feels like im throwing when using it

where is my 50 mag, 10c?!

[junior latch]

Not the stat changes

[ripe void]

so its just the mag size?

[junior latch]

mag, dmg, reload speed, range, dmg

[ripe void]

which one do you guys prefer

[little ridge]

Carbine

[wispy bluff]

I like normal SMG's design more and 50 mag makes me comfy

[wispy bluff]

Used too much?

[ripe void]

which one is carbine
what color is its optic

[wispy bluff]

I have a tinfoil hat theory that sniper rifle got nerfed because with release of ALT R6 everyone was bringing it for R6C2 and that skyrocketed its usage, so 10c were like "oh geee, why is everyone using sniper rifle? NERF"

[ripe void]

oh the burst weapon

doesnt it waste so much ammo

[wispy bluff]

it got amazing dps

for a main anyway

[ripe void]

i know but

[latent palm]

pub moment

[ripe void]

you need to have multiple enemies behind each other

so you can get the most out of it

[sullen socket]

Wha?

Why would you need that

[latent palm]

?

[latent palm]

betcha say that the same as Hel weapons

[ripe void]

but

[latent palm]

no buts

[junior latch]

R6C2 wouldve barely been a dent in its pickrate

[ripe void]

4 bullets for each sleeper

:(

[junior latch]

ammo so rarely matters for main weapons

[sullen socket]

Carbine can one burst strikers and shooters to the head and if I'm panicked I can probably spam 2 bursts and kill a sleeper so that's why my novice ass likes it

[junior latch]

carbine 2 bursting (3 to body) makes it pretty ok even on ammo front tho

[junior latch]

It cant to strikers unless client

And shooters is super unreliable

[sullen socket]

Damn

[junior latch]

its still a top 3 main tho

[latent palm]

none at all

[sullen socket]

The maths, they lie to me

[rare stone]

I'm starting to prefer Hel PP over Carbine ngl

[ripe void]

smg is okay when its shot to the head

[rare stone]

for automatic weapons, I mean

[latent palm]

trueeeeeee

carbine =shot gun now

[junior latch]

Head pops before burst is over
Math doesnt lie, you just didnt go far enough

[latent palm]

[ripe void]

do weapons have their own headshot multiplier

[sullen socket]

Oh shit
That makes sense lmao

[rare stone]

I mean you might be able to 1 burst sleepers if you're client?
perhaps maybe possibly

[latent palm]

its enemies take more dmg on those hits

[sullen socket]

It's multiple steps

Enemies have unique weak points that multiply damage by different amounts, and weapons have multipliers that change how much damage they do to weak point

[flat perch]

case in point dmr vs shooter head

[ripe void]

i always try to do headshots

i either waste ammo or i kill the sleeper

[rare stone]

double tap vs striker 🤓

[flat perch]

sniper vs giant/hybe

[junior latch]

@blissful stream @upper tinsel @little ridge

Moving it here since gtfo media

even the first half of R8 is „somewhat“ competetive with R2 without E1

[flat perch]

its lucky r8 doesnt have a 10-code yawn fest

[upper tinsel]

It feels like in r8 the levels start to get somewhat harder fairly fast, but in r2 you can go up to D without that much trouble

[ripe void]

i just noticed i havent done any r3 missions

[sullen socket]

Tbf on Nyx's screenshot they didn't do secondary for R8E1

[latent palm]

R8D1 still harder than R2E1

[junior latch]

ye

[junior latch]

[latent palm]

wut

[sullen socket]

Well R2C2 was certainly a learning curve

[rare stone]

you're just straight up wrong

[latent palm]

instead of misinformation, i choose lying

[upper tinsel]

Run bonk bonk yoink leave

[sullen socket]

Indeed

[junior latch]

R2C2 is marginally harder than R8B2 honestly

[sullen socket]

Except I usually play with atleast one bot

So we were basically a 3 man for that level lmao

[junior latch]

that wouldnt rly change that assessment

[upper tinsel]

Does the enemy spawn get larger in c2?

[sullen socket]

The bots do not boink the sleepers they just shot us who were trying to melee

[junior latch]

No

[junior latch]

theres enough ammo either way

[sullen socket]

Yee

It was just very stressful at first

[upper tinsel]

Yeah enough ammo for the bots to shoot in the back 😔

But tbf I've seen the fog area kill more runs than the rest of the level

[rare stone]

give bots Hel PP/Carbine and Veruta, they have a lot of ammo and don't deal much friendly fire damage

[blissful stream]

What have I done...

[upper tinsel]

Burst cannon / scatter for bots trust

[rare stone]

u rite

my bad king

[upper tinsel]

Maybe even hel rifle

[rare stone]

Sawed Off and Scatter

[junior latch]

hm?

[rare stone]

with foam

[sullen socket]

I always try to give the bots generalist burst/single shot weapons because I remember hearing they never used auto correctly

[junior latch]

give them burst rifle and veruta machine gun

General best bot loadout

[rare stone]

idk Carbine seems a bit better for them

[junior latch]

more dmg less range

and bot love shooting at max range

[sullen socket]

Yeah I was about to say they shoot enemies that just straight up aren't on screen sometimes lol

[rare stone]

I guess it depends if you're gonna be in close quarters or not

Hel PP from what I've tried also seems pretty good on them, short range though

[ripe void]

yay my first 50 hours

maul is just bigger version of masher

[little ridge]

Oh maybe I should play r8d1 again

But I really cant find r2d1 nor r2d2 hard anymore

especially r2d1 since I've like more than 10 clears on that, and 1 minimum is with vanilla bots

I've 2 on r2d2 but I've always found that map boring as fuck if you know what to do (never did that with bots because fuck doing reactors with bots)

r2c2 is easy even with vanilla bots, the only part where you can get kinda fucked up MAYBE it's the very first alarm since the scans can go down in the fog and enemies spawn fairly close even if you can funnel them a bit

I'll agree that r8e1 is the easiest E and r8a1,b1,b2,c1 are easy

[ripe void]

give me a funny setup

[little ridge]

No but taking last ID spawns a wave of giants

[trim nimbus]

Пасаны, есть русскоязычные комрады?

Або на українськой мови

[ancient dove]

Ahahaha, lock melters!

Bots, they just WON'T STOP GRABBING lock melters!

i'm going insane, previous playthrough there's genuinely no lock melter spawning

and then the next, majority of boxes contains at least one melter.

[rose nova]

some levels dont like consumable :3

[tulip cedar]

anyone knows if theres a mod to organize the boosters alphabetical?

[rose nova]

probs a question for the moddin server, but i think theres some that not un alphabetical but do bunch em up in types

[tulip cedar]

its getting on my nerves every time i search for a booster and i need to keep scrolling and comparing them if i wish to delete some

[upper tinsel]

I dont think i've ever heard of a mod that does this

[ripe void]

@rose nova can we play in 15 mins

[rose nova]

oke

[ripe void]

im ready

[lusty ibex]

so many devs online

[silver spade]

Strange considering they're on their 6 month break

[grizzled bison]

Δ▽Δ

[rose nova]

yeah cause they deserve :D

lil christmas break

[final pawn]

r

[rose nova]

amirez

[ruby fractal]

This game way better if you can co-op. Would recommend to play this game with friends / wife’s boyfriend / husband’s girlfriend / jesus / buddha etc

[ripe void]

i played the game with my wife and girlfriend
my boy friend didnt like it though

[rose nova]

as long as they are like into it sure it can be a lot of fun

[ruby fractal]

great argument ment but...

ur mother

[ripe void]

no

you

[lusty river]

Me looking for pubs but it's all levels I don't want to do with pubs 😔 very unfortunate

[mystic moss]

just host the level smh

[ripe void]

me trying to do r2c1

[fair schooner]

i was also just trying to r2c1 with some guys

we failed bc the knife user decied it was a good idea to randomly smack a giant without warning that we were trying to stealth

[upper tinsel]

When a solo knife giant fails 😔

[mystic moss]

when a single giant causes full team wipe 😔

[ripe void]

when the the knife doesnt hit the leg

[lusty river]

I have bad internet 🙁

[ripe void]

bed intranet conecshen

😔

[formal steppe]

wdym bad internet?

not enough bandwidth?

[lusty river]

I've been told from people with a good internet connection that they are desynced when I host lobbies

[ripe void]

same here

but i still host lobbies

[formal steppe]

same, most of the times it's not really your connection, but the routing that packets have to go through imho

[ripe void]

bots are so good with bio trackers

[lusty river]

Give them cfoam launchers 😏

[ripe void]

"maybe the scanners are the problem"

[formal steppe]

i keep on failing with bots, never managed to finish a level while solo

[ripe void]

can anyone help me with r2c1
or atleast host one
my lobbies are unstable

[formal steppe]

i can

trying to host it for a couple minutes

[blissful dome]

Bots cfoaming doors around corners

[ripe void]

wait

i will come

[proud pollen]

Hello guys, iam new here, just bought the game, can i play with someone please? 😇

Sorry wrong chat 😅

[rose nova]

u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you havent, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[worthy flicker]

So, is it just me or is the Carbine really good? Am I missing something?

[rose nova]

it is

why would u miss somethin lol

[worthy flicker]

cause im not sure if theres some hidden downside im not seeing

i normally use the DTR which is nice but the carbine just feels better

i dont think any other weapon ive used has this much ammo in a mag

[rose nova]

uhh its 48 rght, autopistol, machinepistol smg all have more, machinegun too
but yeah carbines good

[worthy flicker]

yeah but the auto pistol doesnt do this much damage lmao

carbine it is

[rose nova]

it has more total ammo but it is a stagger weapon

so yeah

[grizzled bison]

Δ▽Δ

[sharp owl]

i hate r1c2 i hate r1c2 i hate r1c2 i hate r1c2

[analog flicker]

Carbine's 114.24
vs
Helpp's 90

Dmg per mag

Hel pp's could be 180 if you consider potential pen

however hel pp can also stagger giants in 6 shots.

[sharp owl]

what is this goddamn fucking level dude

it's cursed i swear to god it's cursed

[rose nova]

with how active ur here i expected u to be on r5e1 or somethin ngl not r1c2

[sharp owl]

The enemies spawned in one direction for 7 attempts in a row

i place a sentry

and NOW they decide not to spawn there

ok

im done

such bs

i had a run where i cfoamed and mined the charger alarm

but nothing matters in r1c2

everything is futile

Ok cool i survived the first two waves

lets now spawn 14 chargers

[worthy flicker]

I've been trying to solo it lmao, not fun

[worthy flicker]

Oh if I see a giant I rip out the high cal, send em to the lord

[worthy flicker]

The hel pp is what exactly

[rose nova]

hel autopistol

[worthy flicker]

tyty

[ripe void]

that took 1hour

[tulip trail]

The charger level? Bring stagger weapons or high damage

[ripe void]

bring short rifle

[serene jewel]

did you win

also nice, uzi

[ripe void]

uzi

[ripe void]

r2c1?
yeah

[serene jewel]

is your connection unfucked tho

[ripe void]

yeah it was unfucked

i had a little bit of desync at first

pdw makes shadow missions so easy

for some reason your profile reminds me of ben ten

[lusty river]

Reject pdw and close your eyes and just fire

[keen elbow]

become chad,melee shadows

[true pilot]

Take PDW, dont look at the scope and just hipfire shadows to assert your dominance over others

[gritty berry]

Be happy that there are ||no shadows in R8D2|| .

[true pilot]

y e t

New year, new ||D2||

[gritty berry]

10 chambers DONT THINK ABOUT IT, ONLY TO REPLACE ||BESERKERS||!

[sullen socket]

My squad stopped playing on R3C1 a while back and we just beat it with what we learnt from our previous attempts, feeling like a gamer rn

[gritty berry]

That is only the TIP of the iceberg

[sullen socket]

Oh

I know :p

but its impressive for us rn so

[lusty river]

Good work

[junior latch]

also have fun with r3d1
its a lot of fun to replay

[lusty river]

I had a party where someone was desynced and it spawned 6 chargers instead of 3 during the error

[junior latch]

r3c1?

that error is ramping

so it gets worse

[sullen socket]

I had a bug where

chargers literally spawned next to me while I was pinging the hsu
thankfully I didn't go down but it was a bit cringe

[lusty river]

That makes more sense

[junior latch]

thats less a bug and more people being 2 rooms away from you of which the enemies then spawn ontop of you

[lusty river]

Also sucked they spawned in front during extract

[junior latch]

its "50/50" so its kinda expected

[sullen socket]

I had a friend in the room next to me defending the entrance to the zone, but I guess it did happen when my other friend entered area C

[ripe void]

take pdw
spot shadows
use hel rifle

lmao i was running around and a giant chased me for like 2-3 zones

i immediately got hit wondering whats happening

saw a giant on the desk

[analog flicker]

Difference between killing a giant and staggering multiple giants for an extended period

[glacial anvil]

how is the slug shotgun

is it any good

?

[analog flicker]

It's pretty bad.

[glacial anvil]

how bout the burst pistol

ok are any of the new weapons any good whatsoever

[lusty river]

Short answer: no

[glacial anvil]

aw

sad

on a scale of machine pistol to hel revolver how good is the burst pistol

[rose nova]

burst pistols nice, basically pistol 2 but burst

[analog flicker]

Burst pistol is sort of in the "skill issue" category but even then it's a ok weapon.

[rose nova]

kills with one burst to the head and one to the body

[glacial anvil]

i see

[junior latch]

worse than machine pistol honestly

[rose nova]

:[

[junior latch]

machine pp is okayish

[analog flicker]

I didn't see if you replied about if Short rifle had a higher than 1x precision ngl

[junior latch]

would be wonky as hell

and would need a completely unique rebalancing

[analog flicker]

Because it just feels like a no stagger pistol with an extended mag

[glacial anvil]

ummm

did they

buff or nerf anything

i haven't played in a bit

[lusty river]

Short rifle should've been a main and slug a special (plus rebalancing)

[rose nova]

u can check the patchnotes to see all the changes :3

[glacial anvil]

idk where they are

oh

i se them

[rose nova]

#patch-notes

[glacial anvil]

thank u

which key is dodging

[rose nova]

tbh slug shottie wouldve been a worse high cal
it needs a buff as a main but it can work there with a bit of rebalancing

[rose nova]

shift while A S or D

[glacial anvil]

merci

wait what isn't that

sprinting

[analog flicker]

No.

[lusty river]

I guess. Just needs more ammo. And would be nice if they had made it a pump (since it has a pump on the model, but no animation)

[analog flicker]

It is not Press W + Shift sprint

[thick temple]

Sprinting is shift + w, they specified every other movement key

[analog flicker]

Funny enough I use diagonal slides to dodge forward

[junior latch]

range and fire rate are also pretty awful

[analog flicker]

The problem imo is just the fact High cal exists. So it can't really take that 30dmg slug special spot

Idk how long ago High cal model was known for.

But we've had Slug shotgun's model since OG R5 in its promo image

(Was said to be Dauda's Favored/canonical weapon at least according to the wiki)

[junior latch]

id want to keep it in main lol

[jade iron]

imo that gun would still be bad at 10 rounds per refill

and if they fixed its output issues by buffing fire rate and range, then I wouldn't want it to get more ammo as well

7.5 per refill is fine for such an easy main

[ripe void]

lost r4c1 secondary smh

my health was 20 so i didnt have time to reload

[sharp owl]

won r4c3 pe

it felt very nice shitting on chargers

after all this stuff

[wispy bluff]

Oh congrats. That was one of my hard stucks.

[sharp owl]

levels get substantially easier when you have a person who knows it inside out

[serene jewel]

I'm still hardstuck R2E1

[sharp owl]

the trick is to use the hel shotgun

[serene jewel]

ah shit

this again

how much melee boost do you need to one shot a charger scout with a hammer

[rose nova]

50% i think?
cscuts are 60 health, hammers do 20 full charge, and cscout has a x2 in the back so it needs 30 dmg

[ripe void]

You dont

Use scattergin

Gun

[balmy moat]

Just double hit

[junior latch]

I mean its true. Hel shotty go brrr

[ripe void]

Shadow fans when the pdw fans come in

[grizzled bison]

▽Δ▽▽

[lusty river]

One of those is not like the others! 👀

[ripe void]

How could you tell

[sullen socket]

I wish the thermal sights were still even somewhat effective through fog

[upper tinsel]

They are

Tho not infectious

[thick temple]

They let you see like half a meter further :(

Before they were so good in fog

[upper tinsel]

Seems to still be decent in normal fog

at least for me spicy fog is the only problem

[ripe void]

You guys go stealth in fogs?

[upper tinsel]

Usually I just like to pull those rooms to make life easier

[ripe void]

Same here

I thought I was abnormal for a moment

🫡🙏

The tank is stupidly uncool and ugly

[upper tinsel]

😔 He's trying the best he can

9-5 and providing for the family

[frosty abyss]

tank out there doin the cha-cha slide to avoid your gunshots

[ripe void]

I don't think if I'm ever going to kill tanks anymore

[upper tinsel]

all fun and games until 7 of them pull up at once

[ripe void]

All fun and games until r4e1

[rose nova]

all fun and games until gtfo closes

then its not fun and game

[upper tinsel]

🥺

[ripe void]

All fun and games until reactor mission

[burnt flume]

reactors are not the problem

[upper tinsel]

r4e1 secondary is pretty fun

[ripe void]

E missions aren't fun

I have never done any of those

I'm just assuming

[burnt flume]

it is, still upset that I threw that latest code searching attempt by leaving a door open

[burnt flume]

E tiers are often some of the coolest and most fun to replay

[ripe void]

Unlike reactor missions

Shutdowns are okay

[rose nova]

reactor missions are fun ur just a hater

[ripe void]

I dare you to play r2d2 tomorrow

[frosty abyss]

depends on the reactor for me, dont like stationary reactors, or R2D2 that ones way too long

[rose nova]

lol

i like stationary ones cause i get to just pew pew

and the gunplay of gtfo its very goood

[frosty abyss]

I dislike them specifically cause all it is is pew pew

not much thought

[upper tinsel]

Here's a guide for you on how to complete E levels:

• Form a Skilled Team: Teamwork and communication are essential.
• Optimize Loadout: Choose weapons and tools that suit the mission.
• Understand the Mission: Review objectives and plan accordingly.
• Plan Routes Wisely: Use the terminal to navigate efficiently.
• Prioritize Stealth: Avoid combat when possible for safer progression.
• Effective Communication: Constantly communicate with your team.
• Conserve Resources: Use ammo, health, and tools sparingly.
• Manage Alarms Strategically: Prepare defenses before triggering alarms.
• Be Adaptable: Respond to unexpected challenges swiftly.
• Safe Extraction: Proceed cautiously to the extraction point after completing objectives.

This was totally not made by GPT-4

[frosty abyss]

you just plop down in "the spot" and just wait

[rose nova]

lol, lmao, lol the final one

[rose nova]

yeah and its funky
its not used a lot, i can only think of 3 rn of the top of my head

[frosty abyss]

R1C1 is so boring

[upper tinsel]

Well it is the first reactor after all

[rose nova]

ii mean that one pecially of all things gets a pass cause its the first mission of that kind in the game that was ever created

[frosty abyss]

yeah fair, but I still find it boring

[ripe void]

You are just a fed

[rose nova]

i love goin into it with new funky guns i dont use

[ripe void]

Don't listen to this guy

Go loud as much as you can

[frosty abyss]

what about R5B1 though, does that one get a pass?

[junior latch]

R1C1 is quite litteraly only interesting solo (or duo for many i guess)

[rose nova]

no :D

that one i can see bein bullshit

[junior latch]

b1 overload itself is kinda fun to shoot. But its boring otherwise

And having to do extreme after is so awful

[frosty abyss]

R5B1 has got to be my least favorite level, mains fine but both the optionals are the most boring shite

[junior latch]

Reactors with codes tho 👀

[rose nova]

reactors being reacted

[junior latch]

i think the only code gather reactor that i find pretty meh is an A tier lol

[rose nova]

that one with bots took me so long to do it was a pain

but with people i see it being very fun

[ripe void]

Top ten reasons why reactor missions were made for masochists

[thick temple]

and here we see, the classic dichotomy of gtfo players
those who enjoy reactors, and those who do not

[rose nova]

me enjoy pew

[ripe void]

Me enjoy playing with pew enjoyers

I'm pretty sure every gtfo player loves pew pewing

[rose nova]

not u apparently smh

hatin reactors

[ripe void]

Ugh

[rose nova]

:b

[ripe void]

The only part that I hate is going to look for resources

On r1c1 you had to run for hours until you get the tool refills and other stuff

[upper tinsel]

Well in this case simply kite the enemies along putting codes in like I was talking some other day

No shooting required

also no resource finding required

[ripe void]

How do you guys deal with the invincible nemesis in r9d4

[rose nova]

oh yeah i just headshots em stagger easy

[ripe void]

Thanks

[upper tinsel]

I usually use the mwp to teleport it into somewhere else but yeah that sounds easier

[ripe void]

I thought awp was better

[upper tinsel]

This was sadly changed in a recent patch 😔

[ripe void]

Aww man

Opinion on R9F1

[upper tinsel]

||The R9F1 in 'GTFO' is, without a doubt, one of the most enigmatic and debated elements in the gaming community. Its design, reminiscent of a Swiss Army knife crossed with a futuristic espresso machine, leaves players both bewildered and intrigued. The primary function of the R9F1 is a mystery wrapped in an enigma – some say it's a high-tech lockpick capable of hacking into alien technology, while others argue it's actually a gourmet sandwich maker, essential for those long expeditions in the game's labyrinthine underground complexes.

Its most controversial feature, however, is the 'Quantum Whisk' mode, which supposedly allows players to briefly stir the fabric of the game universe itself, creating temporary glitches in reality. This can result in anything from spawning a horde of friendly rubber ducks to turning all the in-game text into Shakespearean English.

Despite its bizarre nature, the R9F1 has garnered a cult following, with players dedicating hours to unlocking its secrets. Some claim that mastering the R9F1 is the key to understanding the deeper lore of 'GTFO,' while others just appreciate its ability to randomly generate a perfectly toasted bagel in the midst of a chaotic alien firefight.

In conclusion, the R9F1 is a testament to the creative freedom of 'GTFO' developers, adding a layer of surreal humor to an otherwise intense and dark game. Whether it's a game-changing tool or just a whimsical easter egg, it certainly makes for some entertaining gameplay moments.||

[ripe void]

Not written by ai

[upper tinsel]

not brought to you by gpt-4

[ripe void]

Espresso machine

Someone should make an art off of this

Shakespearan english

[upper tinsel]

💀

[flat perch]

to bonk or not to bonk

[upper tinsel]

#gtfo-media message
the art of this

[obsidian abyss]

who are you people

[pine root]

Jish nice to meet you

[rose nova]

i am slendi

the chair

[kindred mural]

Something's not right in the lobby but I can't quite put my finger on what..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3129967318

[burnt flume]

Peter

this is how I feel every day

surrounded by strangers who I don't like and aren't fun to be around

[pine root]

Thank you

[obsidian abyss]

don't talk to me like you know me

call me sir

[pine root]

Oof daddy complex in general chat

Very unfortunate

[obsidian abyss]

wrong

[burnt flume]

No sir, I do not believe you to have been knighted by HM King Charles II

[obsidian abyss]

i'm in charge here now

i have mod commands

[pine root]

Ban me please

[outer lantern]

ban me too

[pine root]

Been trying to get banned for so long

[burnt flume]

either ban all the lame people or ban me so I don't have to see the lame people

[outer lantern]

Have you tried saying slurs

[pine root]

No I wish to be banned for being gay not racist

[outer lantern]

there’s slurs for gay people too

[rose nova]

the slur for me its not banned in discords automod but i dont doubt itll get banned if i ever say it

[burnt flume]

I had an alt account insult me earlier, didn't even hate crime me hard enough

weird ass behaviour

[north yarrow]

theres a new player im trying to get into my lobby but when he copies the code he doesnt get the red button. i asked him to copy random codes in the lfg channel to see what happens and he cant see any of those lobbies either. I can see all of them. I cant join his lobby code either (no red button). He cant fix it by restarting or anything. Anyone have an idea of whats blocking him from joining games/being joined?

[lusty river]

Have you tried adding them on Steam and sending them an invite?

[north yarrow]

not yet, i can try that now

[lilac ferry]

日本人はいない？

[mild rose]

does anyone know why i cant join other peoples lobby?

When I copy a id to my clipboard and then get back to the game I don’t see any join player from clipboard button

[latent palm]

old code

the code changes

[mild rose]

It’s not

It’s new

[latent palm]

bugged lobby

[mild rose]

Other players can join that lobby

My steam says its synced

the game is running

[latent palm]

英語は受け入れられますか？

[mild rose]

Just dk why

[latent palm]

このゲームは日本のスペクトルにはほとんど入っていないので、それが原因です。

[mild rose]

有没有国人

[lilac ferry]

A little is fine!
But I can't speak English well."

[latent palm]

すべてはその学習曲線にかかっています

ゲームと同じように、英語を学ぶと LFG にも多くの特典が与えられます

[mild rose]

It’s running perfectly fine

[latent palm]

yep

it can relate to host internet

if you or they have a VPN setup

[mild rose]

I do see the red button when I host my own lobby

[mild rose]

They don’t

[latent palm]

so it maybe connection issues

[mild rose]

Dk

[latent palm]

happens alot

[mild rose]

and when he try’s to join my game he can’t join too

[latent palm]

best bet to me is verify game files integrety

[mild rose]

I did

😭

I want to play with real persons

Not bots

😭

I just got this game today

[latent palm]

squad up

lets go

[mortal lake]

chat i have returned

[mild rose]

Nice

[latent palm]

we can dive in now if youre free

[mortal lake]

time to send some newbies into a room with 3 scouts

[mild rose]

I’m going to bed😭

[latent palm]

alr

[mild rose]

I still gotta work tomorrow

[mild rose]

Bye

Have a good day or night or evening

(Idk where you are so…)

[latent palm]

あなたはどうですか？ @lilac ferry

[mortal lake]

"have a plesent part of your 24 hour intervil

[mild rose]

👍🤯

[mild rose]

lol

[lilac ferry]

I would be very grateful if you could play with me

[latent palm]

いつ？

[lilac ferry]

I don't care if it's from now on

[latent palm]

1ラウンドは無料です

[lilac ferry]

What? Are you taking money?

[latent palm]

いやいや

なぜ私がお金を取ると思うのですか?

[viscid wadi]

[lilac ferry]

Where do you mean?

What does the first round mean by free?

[latent palm]

助けを必要としている人々は私がここにいる目的であり、他のプレイヤーも何のためにいるのか

[latent palm]

次の 1 時間以内に空いていることを意味します

[lilac ferry]

You mean you can do it in an hour?

[latent palm]

今は次の時間まで空いています

だから、もしあなたが遊びたいなら、私たちは今のように遊びます（笑）

[lilac ferry]

ok

[lilac ferry]

よろしくお願いするよ

[ivory jasper]

omg who up bioing they scan rn

[latent palm]

ur mommas

[ivory jasper]

nuh uh

[snow axle]

109775244534446390 Rus

R2B3

[copper lily]

anyone have a full voice dump for woods? I want the "pick up your deployables" as a discord soundboard for one of my friends

[balmy moat]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[lusty river]

||”As god is my witness, that is NOT me…that man is disturbed”||

[sharp owl]

Restart the game pal

[cerulean quarry]

Any tips on beating R1C1? The one where you defend a reactor for 8 stages

[jade iron]

2 burst sentries 1 sniper sentry 1 bio

hold in bridge room 2 rooms down from reactor

mostly bring guns that kill waves and have range

[cerulean quarry]

bio? how does that help?

[lusty river]

💀

It tags enemies

[cerulean quarry]

sorry 💀

[worthy flicker]

Improves sniper turret, tells you where they're coming from

[jade iron]

it's free because you probably won't have enough tool to fill 4 sentries

in fact, don't deploy all 3 sentries right away

also bio symbiosis for sniper sentry

[cerulean quarry]

sorry i'm new- but I thought it only tags scouts?

[jade iron]

also pings are handy

no it tags anything that moves

[lusty river]

The bio is very important to bring. It gives you information during both stealth and combat

[cerulean quarry]

hmm ok

[jade iron]

make sure everyone brngs up some fat res from south to start with before you start the reactor

and during the later rounds you'll be given more time between rounds, so getting more res from south becomes more practical

[cerulean quarry]

[lusty river]

God, the previous levels really do not teach beginners well for a reactor mission

[cerulean quarry]

just started dropping in with the boys

[jade iron]

honestly towards the end one person often ends up doing codes and not having enough time to get back south to where team is holding

it's kind of a stupid design really

[outer lantern]

Biotracker tags anything that’s “active”, scouts OR anything that has aggro on you

Also when you’re holding it inactive enemies are visible on its display screen as white dots

so if you go slow, great to see what’s behind doors

[lusty river]

It's gonna be especially helpful once you reach R1D1

[outer lantern]

Big time

[cerulean quarry]

we're just about ready to start the reactor- do all the enemies come from the furthest point south?

[outer lantern]

they spawn w the same mechanics as all spawns, two rooms away from a randomly selected player

[cerulean quarry]

ahh ok

[outer lantern]

If you’re doing r1c1 they’ll all funnel down that main hall though , since the level is a straight line

[cerulean quarry]

so can they spawn from the reactor room?

[outer lantern]

I don’t believe they can, no. Pretty sure the reactor and te huge lead up to it count as one room

[worthy flicker]

I will say for R1C1 my friends and I did it with 4 turrets

3 burst 1 hel

Ended up moving positions I think twice?

At wave 4 and towards the end at wave 8

[outer lantern]

R1c1 is fine with four turrets. I start w two and then put the other two out on wave 4

[worthy flicker]

Yeah that's what we did

[outer lantern]

Every time I run it I just stay right at that sec scan door before reactor

[worthy flicker]

We had 1 person basically slaved to the console

[worthy flicker]

We moved up to make the run back a breeze

They never seemed to spawn behind us

[outer lantern]

yeah like I mentioned I don’t think they actually can spawn behind you/in reactor

I could be wrong, but I’ve never ever seen it happen

[gusty burrow]

They are directional spawns, they always spawn towards where you start the level (the elevator)

[worthy flicker]

Then hypothetically you should be able to move up as far as you like

[gusty burrow]

Most people generally recommend holding at the bridge with the lil dump truck, there's a good choke point while they funnel through the hole the in wall, and you're ~30 seconds run away from the terminal so it is easy for the person putting code in to run back in time

[gusty burrow]

Yes, you can do that. I've played the level where we held them right next to the elevator (but it means the person putting in code doesn't get to see any enemies, and you may not have quite as good sightlines/chokepoints)

[worthy flicker]

There's one door just past the bridge we liked, cause they'd all funnel from the right side and the Hel turret just chewed up the waves as they came around the corner en masse

[outer lantern]

Yeah that’s where I was trying to say I set up. Truck, the upper little balcony

[worthy flicker]

Yeah, the person putting in codes saw nothing, we traded out a person halfway through so we could swap turrets

[outer lantern]

is that a specific to r1c1 thing? Cuz doing r1d1 I had waves coming from all directions

[gusty burrow]

It is not specific to R1C1, but the number of levels that do have directional waves is fairly low, generally just reactors and some special error alarms

[outer lantern]

ah ok

[junior latch]

They spawn in spawn direction on r1c1 so unless you are ON spawn they will not spawn on you/north direction ever btw

[junior latch]

Obviously doable
But id generally just recommend against 4 tools without bio

[jade iron]

tru has already talked about the directed spawn logic and whatnot, but I'll add that the reactor room and the room before it are definitely separate rooms

[jade iron]

hel autosentry is designed as a stagger sentry

it might seem like it ought to be doing a lot of damage because it's full auto or whatever, but it's not very good at killing

burst sentry's actual kill output is significantly higher

[sharp owl]

hel sentry has better dps then burst

[pine root]

IF IT DOESNT MISS

[worthy flicker]

It works well when the entire horde is in one funnel in my experience

[gusty burrow]

Burst sentry also hits headshots, and deals triple damage when doing so, so that might matter too

[wraith marsh]

my sentry always plays for pen, its a pro

[worthy flicker]

We had the hel up next to the burst for bigger waves and it worked very well

[sharp owl]

cant hel hit hs?

[gusty burrow]

It aims for body.

[junior latch]

it worked*

[lusty river]

And for some reason the shotgun sentry is still trying to aim at the head 💀

[junior latch]

but thats cuz r1c1 is honestly very very chill

[sharp owl]

and burst aims for head?