gtfo-chat

[burnt flume]

if you don't have a biotracker I guess

[blissful dome]

No bio moment

I mean how else do you run quad auto sentry

[lunar thicket]

R8D1 is certainly easier than R8C1 but that’s just me

[blissful dome]

Yes

It is easier

[wispy bluff]

The difference between Only VS Bullshit.
If C1 was Main alone - its definetely easier, IMHO.

But for some reason people never consider going Main only... Go figure.

[blissful dome]

why go main only uwu

[wispy bluff]

Because its easy, it unlocks me apparel all the same, and it provides practice on what needs to be done after the optionals.
"Right, i have to do ALL of this, but with a fatass spawning on me every 90 seconds or so..."

[knotty wren]

bit of a spoiler for R8C1, but it's much easier ||when you realise that you can take breaks inbetween timed connection sequences - the waves do indeed stop spawning, so after the first one sequence you can unlock every single zone pre-emptively and scour them for resources||

[quaint cairn]

the only reason i play this game is to enjoy the feeling of beating my head against a wall

pe or bust

[blissful dome]

real

[quaint cairn]

also i disagree on c1 main being easier than d1. shorter, yes, but not easier

[blissful dome]

hm

[knotty wren]

ehhhh

have not tried c1 main, my and my team just went PE

but d1 honestly wasn't that bad

me and buddy first-tried it

[vestal pebble]

Tcnm

есть

Пригласите в рускоязычную команду

[wispy bluff]

I was playing with bots.
Accidentally activated instead of because i don't read doors.
Killed myself and bots on a mine, checkpointed.
Went for , realized its literally impossible with bots, shot myself with a sniper sentry, checkpointed again and took home my

Technically first try.

[balmy moat]

Yeah, R8C1 is a new R7D1

And I genuinely believe that R8C1 is unbeatale solo

[wispy bluff]

sucked ass

[balmy moat]

R7D1 you just roll for good spawns

[blissful dome]

trust me artek can do it

trust

[balmy moat]

But overload solo in R8C1 is definitely not I think, even if it was possible to roll all central terminals I think they are way too far from the main terminal for you to run in 10 sec

[wind kiln]

lol, was playing with some dude who just didn't want to use his guns. When we get overwhelmed by a horde with giants and chickens, dude insisted on using his knife to headshot grunts (and miss half of the time) to save ammo

[quaint cairn]

i was testing this ealier. the farthest one takes just barely less than 10 seconds. but it is also very rare to get central terminals.

[serene berry]

looks like tnenpi skipped it, you are probably right

[balmy moat]

No, I fully believe tnenpi can do it

[blissful dome]

are none of the terminals close enough to rng?

[balmy moat]

After all I can do R7D1 main solo

[blissful dome]

it might just be taking a while to rng it

:P

[balmy moat]

The problem is rolling for such luck

[blissful dome]

ye

[balmy moat]

tnenpi would never

[blissful dome]

hm

[balmy moat]

I wouldn't either with R8C1

[serene berry]

oh, i thought you said impossible

[balmy moat]

If we take Nano's word for it

10 sec running path

Then it is possible

[serene berry]

not worth the time? ya that def makes sense

[quaint cairn]

after 4 attempts with cheats it took me an average of 90 minutes to get the necessary terminals

[balmy moat]

I'll attempt R7D1 100% solo later

But it's gonna take a while to roll

R8C1 I think has a lot more rng factor

It's literally just the new R7D1

Bugs suck ass

[serene berry]

[wispy bluff]

Im dissapointed to hear he wasn't just grinding the achievement

But then if he did, why knife of all things...

[wind kiln]

For fast charge and one shots grunts

[wispy bluff]

inb4 giant greets ya

[wind kiln]

But i prefered bat, was more reliable

[burnt flume]

sounds like someone who's in over their head

[wind kiln]

Was R2C2, so we got nonstop 4 grunts behind us

[burnt flume]

ah that's not too bad then if you can melee well

[wispy bluff]

hm

[wind kiln]

Thats the thing, was inconsistent. He hits them and go to the next one while around half of the time they were still alive

[burnt flume]

oh if he wasn't getting kills with the knife then he's a clown

at that point take sledgehammer I guess

[wispy bluff]

(Chuckles)
Saw literally the same thing happen with a hammer user, it was amazing

[wind kiln]

Knife can be really good if you are great with it. But the range makes it a lot harder if you arent good with it

But i like sledge the most when there is stealth

Big hammer go bonk

Loving the scattergun and high precision pistol as specials tho

[lost lynx]

its the first time i see you

and i already like you

🤝

high precision pistol

[wind kiln]

Ye, started playing 3 days ago. Wanted to play since release but not a single one of my friends wanted to

Same with hunt showdown

[vestal pebble]

нужен еще 1 в русскую тиму

[serene jewel]

damn I somehow solo'd a giant with melee only in a random game

I didn't even notice until I got the achievement

[magic mist]

gtfo players when someone alerts the scouts

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035489313183506525/1088272536317468793/gifntext-gif.gif

dam

ok then

no img perms for me :boo_womp:

[scenic dune]

Epic embed fail

[magic mist]

dont blame me

i dont have img perms it seems

[scenic dune]

I do

[wispy bluff]

Some people worked really hard to get those embeds banned

[scenic dune]

It’s all your fault

[magic mist]

why???

[wispy bluff]

Chaos

[scenic dune]

Maybe keep trying to post the gif

[magic mist]

so theyre crybabies who hate funny gifs?

[clear magnet]

looking at the licked hoodie on the website: what is this on the back lol

i cant post screenshot but its https://shop.gtfothegame.com/collections/hoodies/products/gtfo-relaxed-hoodie-licked

[wispy bluff]

I was more so referring to people spamming random nonsense every 5 seconds until mods just get tired of it and locks the embeds to solve the issues at the core

[scenic dune]

Bro left bc he couldn’t post gifs 💀

Wait did he leave?

[magic mist]

no moron

im right fuckin here

[scenic dune]

Omg

[wispy bluff]

I don't even know if you can check

[scenic dune]

No one has roles so it looks like you left lmfao

[magic mist]

"member since" be like

[junior latch]

no roles
F

[covert hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1120720250380484729/1176201227722313769/cowbelly.gif?ex=656e01c1&is=655b8cc1&hm=293b89773731aee2ef815cdf77e77d1a37f7177513ee96e5dcea9d9e3c102a2c&

[scenic dune]

Omg

Clown is back

[magic mist]

i will trigger the scout in your game

and the next

and the next

[junior latch]

Im so sad this isnt an actual embed

[magic mist]

theres no embeds

[covert hinge]

:(

[magic mist]

the mods became war criminals

via collective punishment

[covert hinge]

Only secret jigglers can jiggle on that gif

[scenic dune]

A media channel would be nice

[magic mist]

Collective punishment is prohibited by treaty in both international and non-international armed conflicts, more specifically Common Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention and Article 4 of the Additional Protocol II.

[high orchid]

I wonder what #gtfo-media is for?

[magic mist]

HEY MODS

WAR CRIMINALS

[covert hinge]

Dont know... it tells us to get the f out, so I wouldnt stay in it!

[scenic dune]

Yo

[magic mist]

@high orchid isnt that pfp from a game with borderline incest in it

[scenic dune]

Hidden

[magic mist]

like

ew

[wispy bluff]

Clearscreens, funny moments, YT links to cool 420 mlg solos and whatever

YOu know... The usual boring stuff.

[junior latch]

Cant forget weird discussions with 5 min message delay

[wispy bluff]

Also spoilers. Lotss spoilers.

[magic mist]

true

[outer lantern]

Not borderline

It’s straight up

[magic mist]

OH

oh my gawd bruh

[magic mist]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn4yAbA9cZw||

[wispy bluff]

Ignore parenticide and eating corpses

[sharp owl]

Wha

[outer lantern]

I’m not watching that

Whatever that link is

[high orchid]

idk man you should prob ask @slate creek

[outer lantern]

I’m ok with that

Cannibalism is ok

[wispy bluff]

In context, right?

[short jolt]

I think you should probably specify necrocannibalism

[burnt flume]

the fuck is going on in here

[magic mist]

its still cannibalism

[wispy bluff]

Sorry, i already googled "word for killing parents" and i'm gonna leave it there

[serene jewel]

cannibalism solves both overpopulation and world hunger

[magic mist]

@serene jewel okay harry

[burnt flume]

cannibalism solves nothing

[magic mist]

whatever you say

[outer lantern]

I mean isn’t that default cannibalism

[magic mist]

SILENCE DEMON

[outer lantern]

I don’t think many cannibals eat people alive

[magic mist]

the skinner brothers:

[outer lantern]

It solves me so hungry mmmmmm

[short jolt]

necro cannibalism means eating someone who was already dead vs. killing someone for food (homicidal cannibalism)

[wispy bluff]

You know an awful lot on the topic

[high orchid]

what the fuck how did we get to cannibalism?

[wispy bluff]

Did your plane crash or something

[outer lantern]

Sussy little Baka

[outer lantern]

Your incest cannibalism puzzle game pfp

[high orchid]

also human meat apparently has a similar taste to pork

[outer lantern]

It does

[short jolt]

because the incest game also has cannibalism

[outer lantern]

I burned myself super badly once and it smelled like bacon

[burnt flume]

I feel like if you burn yourself pretty badly you'd just smart smelling of burnt flesh

or maybe I'm just a pragmatist

[magic mist]

your pfp

[high orchid]

yall must seriously be a fan of the game if you're fixated on my pfp that much

[magic mist]

im not a fan i just vaguely know it

to sum it up

its covid lockdown with my sis (GONE WRONG, GONE SEXUAL)

[burnt flume]

gone what???

[wispy bluff]

I don't even care, i just osmosis'd some fascinating discourse on it that i don't actually care for

Cute artstyle though

[burnt flume]

reminds me of a stupid bloody thing the uk govt said

[wispy bluff]

something something how little it narrows it

[outer lantern]

Everything I’ve learned about that game has been without consent

[short jolt]

same lol

the game still doesn't give me as much vertigo as Cult of the Lamb tho

[lost lynx]

[magic mist]

which is?

[burnt flume]

it was something around having people around the house help out with sex or whatever, which for most households is a terrible idea

[short jolt]

"help out with sex"?

[burnt flume]

you know, don't go outside to hook up and end up catching covid

lockdown stuff

[wispy bluff]

In times like these i remember "Getting Over It"s monologue about how everything produced today seems to be junk culture that just dies in a week...
These game names just pop up for like a month and then they go away forever.

[sharp siren]

What the fuck am i reading

[shadow dome]

fr

[sharp siren]

Goddam

[wispy bluff]

The Day Before is the topic of this month. Next month it will be someone else.

...any games releasing next month?...

[sharp siren]

Gtf....Gta !

[lost lynx]

the scam game people bought and were surprised it was a scam

damn

the game got removed for steam and steam is offering refunds

even if you have more than 2 hours played

[wispy bluff]

Oh god, when did Prince of Persia got rebooted?... Again?... The haircut is already mega cringe

[upbeat sail]

oh all of that companys internal mismanagement has been getting leaked for around a year

[scenic dune]

Love your pfp

Don’t listen to the haters

Hel revolver is so bad

Like 4 body shots to kill anything

Honestly probably more

[modern coral]

Is this a shitpost?

[scenic dune]

The 8 round one?

I’ve been using it a bunch this level

So bad

[modern coral]

HEL Revo is the strongest Main in the game.

[scenic dune]

Cap

[flat perch]

agreed, it's awesome

[scenic dune]

Body shots taking 4-5 hits minimum

[modern coral]

First of all

It's a 3-tap on Strikers

Second of all

Hit the head.

It's not that hard

[scenic dune]

Dumb fuck what did I just say

[flat perch]

maybe doesn't deal out damage like some others but going thru the first one and staggering ~always, love it

[scenic dune]

Shot 4 times

[modern coral]

You are just wrong

[wraith marsh]

ok

what kills faster then

[scenic dune]

Use it bozo

[wraith marsh]

?

[scenic dune]

Anything else

[modern coral]

I do use it, as do most other sweaty players.

[scenic dune]

Fine I’ll give it another go at this alarm door

[modern coral]

Either you are shooting at like 30m out, or you are missing.

[scenic dune]

ew self proclaiming sweat

That’s fuckin embarrassing

[sharp siren]

typical

[scenic dune]

“Typical 🤓”

[lusty river]

He is trolling, trust me

[modern coral]

Yeah, I'm gathering.

[wraith marsh]

I saw the shit earlier

[modern coral]

Seems like a shitpost.

[wraith marsh]

well aware

[burnt garnet]

' "typical 🤓 " '

[lusty river]

Idk why people shit on hel revo, like just aim for the head smh

[wraith marsh]

its not even bad if you aim body

[scenic dune]

4 shots

[wraith marsh]

are you hitting a striker or shooter

[lusty river]

Huge skill issue

[wraith marsh]

cuz shooters are 4

[scenic dune]

The one who crab walks on the ground

So yeah prolly shooter

[wraith marsh]

that is a shooter

[modern coral]

Lmao, imagine body-shotting a shooter.

[wraith marsh]

they are different from a striker

(crazy right)

[scenic dune]

Bru

[sharp siren]

skill issue

try getting better

[scenic dune]

Aight ima test it at this door and if it works well I eat my words brb

[scenic dune]

Why didn’t I think of that

[sharp siren]

you suck anyways

so it dont matter

[scenic dune]

Someone’s cranky

[wraith marsh]

also most mains take a LOT more than 4 bullets for shooters

like

2-3x as many

at least

[scenic dune]

Jesus

So always head shot shooters

[wraith marsh]

ye

5x multi on head

[scenic dune]

For everything?

[modern coral]

Shooters are 30 health, 5x head crit.
Strikers are 20 health, 3x head crit.

[high orchid]

that's if you aren't hitting headshots tho

[wraith marsh]

that is indeed the topic

[high orchid]

understandable then

[scenic dune]

It did just melt 5 strikers in 6 shots so okay okay may be eating my words

[modern coral]

It is the strongest Main.

Consistently, anyway. HEL Shotgun can be stronger in certain situations.

[scenic dune]

Slug shotgun beloved

[lusty river]

Hel shotgun carried on D2 😩

[high orchid]

Slug is nice but it cannot replace the sawed off

[scenic dune]

Sawed off range is confetti. No thanks

Whoever just gave me a warning you can jump off a bridge

[lusty river]

💀

[wraith marsh]

wha

[scenic dune]

Been chillin with one mod today he’s cool asf

[autumn bobcat]

[scenic dune]

WHAT

[autumn bobcat]

[scenic dune]

Okay doing alarm door now

I got the hel gun and revolver which are apparently amazing

I’ll be the judge of that

[high orchid]

Why hel gun when hel rifle

[quaint cairn]

how good they are depends entirely on how good you are

[lusty river]

So real ^

[scenic dune]

Okay

They were pretty good tbh

Almost as good as slug shotgun

Okay let’s be real what’s stopping me from putting a lock melter on this dudes head

[autumn bobcat]

Head melter

[lusty river]

Needs bigger lock melter

[scenic dune]

Killing these spiked dudes with the knife is hard

Has to be from the back and the bots have to not be dumb and walk right in fucking front of me

[lusty river]

Do you like the knife?

[scenic dune]

I mean typically when I’m with just bots yes bc they can’t synchronize kills with me

Otherwise spear gang

[quaint cairn]

real

[scenic dune]

But these spiked mfs suck

[lost lynx]

true

they can destroy you in seconds

[autumn bobcat]

usually best to straight up avoid them as much as possible

[scenic dune]

Hel revolver is cool. Too bad the slug shotgun takes priority 😔

[autumn bobcat]

or use the hammer 👀

[scenic dune]

HEL gun is cool too but that charge up adds an extra step of leading shots which I hate

Frankly bullet velocity in this game is fucking slow as shit. As bad as an actual airsoft gun

[quaint cairn]

its hit scan, there is not bullet velocity

the lights are just effects and mean nothing

[autumn bobcat]

i’ve never even noticed if it was actually hit scan but now that i think of it yeah

[outer lantern]

Lmao that’s very off putting

How did I not tealize

[flat perch]

glad that its not projectile bullets.. gravity, velocity, ballistics...

[wicked solstice]

wait I thought it was hit scan

[wicked solstice]

when GTFO bow

[flat perch]

they have a grenlauncher

[wicked solstice]

true, true

lockout 2 moment

[serene jewel]

how much melee damage do you need to one shot a charger scout in the back

[upbeat sail]

2 hammer or 2 spear

[serene berry]

it has 60 hp, i think, cause you need 1 hammer to back +1 more

[upbeat sail]

id recommend just throwing a cfoam grenade at them or shooting them in the back after clearing the room

[serene jewel]

I meant boosters

yes i know they're cringe

[upbeat sail]

I have no idea if you can even get high enough damage with them tbh

[high orchid]

you can iirc

[flat perch]

+51% for hammer?

[high orchid]

been a while since I tested melee with boosters but I believe 50% melee increase kills charger scouts to the back

at least with hammer

[lusty river]

Double melee no cfoam

Best way

[serene berry]

50% up with full charged hit to the back, 1 aggressive should be enough

[serene berry]

maybe an aggressive and a muted

[balmy orbit]

anyone know what r8 b4 secondary bug is?

[lost lynx]

you dont get the secondary completition

[balmy orbit]

do the devs know what causes it?

[lost lynx]

if its still a bug
probably no

[lusty river]

Schaeffer is causing the bug!! (joking)

[serene jewel]

nice thanks

next time I do crossways I need to remember that

[real parrot]

whats the A2 code today?

[shut vapor]

It doesnt look to be daily

[real parrot]

i thought it was

so is it still DX2KY-9WQK2

[shut vapor]

well you thought stupid then bozo :^)

probably

[real parrot]

alr

[timid vessel]

someone has the code for the a2 secondary pls?

[lost lynx]

||dx2ky-9wqk2||

[timid vessel]

ty

[keen hazel]

Hey this might seem odd but where are the terminals in R8B2? I can't seem to find them and the doors out seem bugged. is my run screwed?

in zone 188

[lean spruce]

naw just finished it, thought the same but no

[keen hazel]

are they somewhere in the ||pillar||

[upbeat sail]

the ones sunk into the floor or

[keen hazel]

found 1

[upbeat sail]

theres 2 more around there somewhere they are just hard to spot

[keen hazel]

alright just gotta do this 2 more times.
oh shit security sequence

[lost harbor]

do you know what is hardest mision?

[keen hazel]

yep mission is actually bugged but I was on streaming so I don't have a screenshot

[normal lake]

i believe most people give that to either r4e1 or r5e1, im not sure about r8 atm

[wraith marsh]

||E2|| prolly takes the cake now

[lost harbor]

thx

[normal lake]

had a feeling but i havent really touched r8 due to bugs, waiting for the patch before i start to really get into it

brain is fried atm ignore mistype

i need a global expeditions cleared on the rundown select screen that tells me how many mains, sec, ovl, and pe, i have completed / total for all rundowns

[shut vapor]

All E tier missions have their own speciality in why they are hard

[normal lake]

may be difficult for different reasons but doesnt mean you cant compare overall difficulty

[shut vapor]

fair

[jade cliff]

are the new melee weapons just cosmetic changes

or are they different somehow

[balmy moat]

Just cosmetics

They are old hammer skins

The knife, spear, bat are new

(Reskin version)

[jade cliff]

tyty

[fast hollow]

Anyone having any advice for R8E1?

[wraith marsh]

run

maybe shoot a lil

[shut vapor]

Don't stop moving

[fast hollow]

||Yeah. We're just struggling to make it past the checkpoint door.||

[shut vapor]

unfortunately due to spoilers

no talky here

[fast hollow]

Got it.

[shut vapor]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat

[sharp owl]

Lfg need 2 https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1184010746842058803

[true pilot]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[sharp owl]

my fault

[fierce vortex]

What are the worst weapons at the moment?

[lusty river]

Depends what mission you’re doing

[jade iron]

spear, bullpup, assault rifle, sniper, probably most of the new guns

[lusty river]

Slug shotgun is a good weapon

[wraith marsh]

short rifle 🤮

[jade iron]

short rifle is a macro gun apparently

[balmy moat]

Short rifle is only good in a 2 round burst macro, even then it's still absolute ass

Voxy and I tested the different macro bursts

5 is overkill

3/4 is fine but recoil is too much

[jade iron]

fire rate kills the slug gun imo

[balmy moat]

2 you are able to do 4 with 2 burst macros and do just fine

But falloff

🤮

Short rifle is just ass

[wraith marsh]

falloff, literally any non striker/shooter enemy

[fierce vortex]

What makes the spear not good? I've been using that one only and haven't tried the other ones.

[wraith marsh]

using a macro in general being cringe

etc

"designed by a person who doesnt play the game"

[jade iron]

what about 30, I hear scattergun macro is funny

[lusty river]

I mean it’s a pump action shotgun heh. It’s not like the hel shotty

[wraith marsh]

its just a worse scattergun

[balmy moat]

Recoil is just too much

[fierce vortex]

How much more damage is the spear compared to other melees?

[balmy moat]

It's like R6S shotgun recoil

[jade iron]

haha fair

[balmy moat]

Only use behind giant

[covert hinge]

Do you guys recommend any good guns?

[vestal crystal]

yes they do

[balmy moat]

hel revo/carbine for main weapon

Just don't bring assault rifle

[lusty river]

Use DTR if you have good aim

[covert hinge]

I played a game with some PDW with a thermal and it was decent, fhen I played with a DMR and I had to ask for ammo packs every 5 mins

[jade iron]

you can clear smalls at close range faster and with more stagger control by just putting the work into actually good mains

[covert hinge]

Oh okey

Are the smgs any good?

[jade iron]

if slug gun had the fire rate of, say, high cal, maybe it'd be a different story

[wraith marsh]

like hel shotgun

😃

[fierce vortex]

Can someone explain why the spear is not good?

[lusty river]

It’s a slug. It do big damage to a single enemy. I never seen it as a crowd control weapon

[rose nova]

they r ok, prefectly fine and very controllable in all cases, very recoil friendly

[jade iron]

it takes a pretty long time to kill a big with it

[covert hinge]

Okidokk

[jade iron]

I'd rather just close the distance and use sawnoff (which takes down a big in less than a second with 1 clip now), or use a special for bigs

[lusty river]

Never used slug against giants so I can’t say

I need to look at its stats again

[rose nova]

its 21 dmg

[jade iron]

didn't you literally just recommend it for damage into bigs?

[celest basin]

Much slower than hammers. Even though they have the same damage. Range is also just wonky so the range benefits isn’t that good (same speed as hammers oops*)

[lusty river]

Where

😆

[jade iron]

here

[covert hinge]

He referred to the sawnoff me thinks

[river vale]

anyone have the R8A2 code?

[lusty river]

Single enemy does not mean giants but okay

[jade iron]

it does, because dealing big damage to a small is inconsequential

[rose nova]

they quite dont have the same dmg, spear has less base dmg but has more precision dmg, so it deals a bit more with headshots
which is good for bigs but bad for small enemies that hammer bodyshots

also the range its not wonky its the best

but the spear detriments come in not being able to run and the very long charge it has

plus the, eh stagger multiplier

[lusty river]

Never said the word giant 💀 it’s still fine on regular sleepers

[balmy moat]

Pretty sure slug shottie is outclassed by every shotgun rn

[wraith marsh]

idk I dont think most mains are killing a giant any faster than slug

it just doesnt have ammo

cuz it has something most mains dont

[lusty river]

Yeah main issue with slug is ammo

[rose nova]

i mean its kinda the perfect dmg for a small bodyshot to striker headshot to shooter
just faulters in everything else but u could make it work

[wraith marsh]

single projectile 1 shot at close range, and single shot hs kill at range

[jade iron]

but it's so goddamn slow

nearly a second of shot delay

[rose nova]

thats what i meant faulters at everything else

[celest basin]

Good to know, I just based my thoughts on personal feel. Don’t know the exact exact numbers and the such

[jade iron]

if you're shooting smalls, you want to kill lots of them quickly

[wraith marsh]

its not that much slower than regular shotty

[jade iron]

pretty much every main kills smalls faster than slug gun

[serene jewel]

I tried slug, it just fires too slowly

[zealous plover]

is there a way to disable/skip the intro injection?

[lusty river]

Hel auto pistol mag dump 💀

[serene jewel]

you mean other than holding any key to skip? no

[rose nova]

hold any button

and itll skip it

same for the drop animation

if u mean the literal hold to inject button uh no

[celest basin]

Drop animation has my computer screaming

[rose nova]

its a loading screen

so like

[lusty river]

Slug needs more ammo honestly. 44 total shells is not cutting it

[rose nova]

normal

[gaunt lichen]

Gotta have it emulate what the prisoner feels like

[jade iron]

I don't think it'd be very healthy for a 1tap main to get more than 7.5 kills per refill

just speed the thing up

[wraith marsh]

I feel like it is a fine weapon

[covert hinge]

The game intro is so chill, I love hearing the sound of cold metal structures get injected in my brain as my close to lifeless body is set to dwell the depths of the mining facility once again

[rose nova]

:>

[gaunt lichen]

I like slug shotty as it is, also like 1 of 2 mains that actually feel somewhat different

[celest basin]

Mmmmm flashing screen lights makes it very relaxing

[covert hinge]

😊

[wraith marsh]

so true

I love my 10 auto weapons

that ppl somehow differentiate between them despite them all being bad

[rose nova]

eh id say hel shottie sawed off slug ddouble tap hel autopistol machinepistol pistol burst pistol kinda like, add somethin even if its little but

i like all those just slug shottie feels funky

i mean its fun as balls

but i dont myself takin it a lot

[gaunt lichen]

GTFO players when it takes 1 more hel autopistol bullet to kill:

[jade iron]

I didn't know "don't use" counted as "differentiate"

[lusty river]

I mean maybe the few times I’ve used slug, it felt like I had to refill ammo more than if I were to use dmr or hel revo which can kill fast + good ammo count

[wraith marsh]

forgot to type apart

mb

[jade iron]

it's roughly the same efficiency as DMR 1+1ing strikers

[celest basin]

Minor spelling mistake * explodes *

[gaunt lichen]

Slug def easier to use than dmr imo

Esp since body 1 shots are pretty lenient on the gun

[lusty river]

Well yeah slug you can just hipfire

[celest basin]

Feels like the one shots are a lot more consistent with the slug

[lusty river]

Just aim good 😏

[celest basin]

[rose nova]

well yeah slug shottie its like the only main that oneshots apart from double tap which is incredibly hard

and sawed off which has pellet dispersion of gods

and i guess dmr to shooters but we dont count that

[jade iron]

lol I was just memeing

[lusty river]

Well we’ve talked about slug and short rifle, but what burst pistol? I found it harder to control than just using the normal pistol tbh

[wraith marsh]

yeah ik, I just fucked up my sarcasm

[gaunt lichen]

How's the burst pistol? I looked at the stats and kinda went "nahh..."

[lusty river]

Not touching that pistol again ong

[celest basin]

I’m still fairly new but what turret is the “best”. I like the Hell auto best but feel like I just don’t know how to use the others

[jade iron]

burst sentry

[rose nova]

burst sentry

[gaunt lichen]

Go anything but the auto sentry lul

[jade iron]

sniper sentry is probably in a good place again after buffs

[lusty river]

Bro did not just say hel auto sentry was their fav

[rose nova]

hel auto sentry problem its a stagger sentry, and not a dmg sentry, so its really really niche

[celest basin]

Go brrrrrr and I like it

:>

[lusty river]

😆

[rose nova]

shottie and sniper can be a bit niche due to range and shot delay [with snipers being slow and shottie the speed of light] but they are much more usable

[jade iron]

shotgun sentry might be good, but I just don't want to bother until they apply the bodyshot fix to it

[rose nova]

in most situations

[gaunt lichen]

Shotgun sentry firing 5 rounds after the target is dead:

[celest basin]

Oh gosh

[rose nova]

burst pistol its a two shot to the head and body unlike pistol, and idk i like it
its the same thing on almost everything, kinda same range kinda same ammo very normal controllable recoil and hipfire

[lusty river]

Shotgun sentry + tracker cpu speed

[rose nova]

yeah but it gets like 50 extra ammo with bio

so

[gaunt lichen]

But when it comes to ladders, shotgun sentry is uncontested its hilarious

[lusty river]

It felt like a mini dtr fr

Prob bc it’s a two burst

[rose nova]

yeah but its way easier, the dtr recoil hits hard

on burst pistol its, very normal

it goes up so lightly

[jade iron]

burst pistol seems to be an attempt to make a 6dmg pistol with a different fire mode

...which doesn't seem that important breakpoint-wise

I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it seemed like ass when I tested it

[gaunt lichen]

Should've given us dual glocks, smh 10 chambers

[wraith marsh]

its a more granular dtr

[rose nova]

idk i enjoy it a lot

[wraith marsh]

its just got no range

[lusty river]

Prisoners when they can’t hold two pistols like a badass 😔

[wraith marsh]

close range, granular dtr ig

[rose nova]

just like pistol, 9 vs 7

[jade iron]

7m falloff start shouldn't be that bad compared to pistol

9m pistol is very good imo

one of r5's best mains

[gaunt lichen]

I dunno chief, haven't seen anyone run pistols recently

[jade iron]

yeah because everyone runs hel revo and carbine

[wraith marsh]

im hoping to see more burst rifles but I doubt itll happen

ppl too stuck on carbine

[rose nova]

everyone sticks to the same two but dont let that fool u

almost every main its good

in its own way

[gaunt lichen]

I've been seeing more bullpup/machine pistol for the funny auto

[rose nova]

dmr pistol rifle sawed off bullpup hsmg smg

they r all nice

[jade iron]

bullpup nerf stinks of pick rate, so you might be right

[wraith marsh]

the further into the game you get, the worse the autos become

[rose nova]

i still main hsmg when is it supposed to hit

when i have 1k?

[celest basin]

My aims ass so I like using “high capacity” weapons

[rose nova]

same

i suck so bad with headshots

[celest basin]

Yup

[wraith marsh]

I dont mean playtime, I mean harder levels

[gaunt lichen]

Yeah... kinda disgusting that hel revolver main answers all the later enemies.

[lusty river]

Hel shotty goes crazy too

[jade iron]

eh, mains should be largely interchangeable

[rose nova]

isnt machinegun one of the strongest specials

[jade iron]

the special slot is the more role-dependent one

[jade iron]

ya

well veruta is

arbalist is a little questionable

[rose nova]

how have i heard the autos suck argument so much and then just heard that one is too

[gaunt lichen]

Machinegun is like op in every scenario except against bosses

[rose nova]

and combat shottie which is also an auto

[lusty river]

Arbalist silent nerf 💀

[jade iron]

yeah but hel shotty is kind of a non-central main

[rose nova]

oh yeah the reload i didnt notice it

[wraith marsh]

its auto mains

[rose nova]

ah yall need to b specific smh /j

[lusty river]

Wdym by non central (I’m a little dumb)

[celest basin]

Down playing the guns so they don’t get nerfed

[wraith marsh]

I could make the argument for mgs not being as good but that mainly just comes down to hel rifle/gun being busted as shit at the same role

[jade iron]

like, hel shotty is S for sure, but it's wildly different from typical mains

[wraith marsh]

and also heavily skill reliant

the ceiling is no where near the same in the main category as it is in the specials

[rose nova]

i dont think hel rifle has the same role as a machinegun ngl

[jade iron]

instead of a gun that's mostly about giving you some fight into smalls, hel shotty is ass into isolated smalls, but mops up hordes and staggerlock-melts bigs

[gaunt lichen]

Yeah but bots can only use machineguns
checkmate meta man

[lusty river]

[wraith marsh]

nah its still fine

[jade iron]

and imo you want to specifically supplement hel shotty with a special like HAR or revo that can take on that nimble main-like role

[rose nova]

the super long reload on the hel rifle with its kinda limitation on hel and the 5 in mag
and the machineguns... yeah idk bout that

[wraith marsh]

that is where the part I said after comes in

though yeah you cant play stagger with hel rifle whatsoever

wasnt really what I was aiming for

[lusty river]

Our hel shotty user had to take choke mod for D2. Surprised he made it work well

[jade iron]

0.2s hel gun is pretty firmly the best gun in the game now imo

[wraith marsh]

probably yeah

[jade iron]

god I tried it again after the r8 patch and I thought it might be 0.1s

0.3s just felt like ass

[lusty river]

0.3 was manageable tho

[wraith marsh]

scattergun is pretty fuckin dumb rn as well but wave clear is king

[rose nova]

its funny how theres just no line at all, 0.3 its the worst gun in the entire game, 0.2 is the absolutel best

like theres no middle

[lusty river]

0.25

ez

[rose nova]

its just -10/10 or 10/10

[jade iron]

lol I wouldn't even come close to saying worst

[wraith marsh]

it just felt horrible to use, and lost some of the utility ppl take it for

[jade iron]

there was still a great gun under that charge time, it just felt like ass

[wraith marsh]

was still a very good gun

[lusty river]

What about PR? Mag size reduced like 💀

[wraith marsh]

they removed the mom 1 mag as client

[rose nova]

oh yeah how much is it?

[wraith marsh]

shaking and crying rn

[jade iron]

I just shrugged and thought "pick rate I bet, at least it's not back to 8 again"

[gaunt lichen]

12 > 10

[rose nova]

mh
not
bad?

[lusty river]

Lol true

Still long ahh reload

[rose nova]

i wasnt a lover of pr to begin with tbh

[wraith marsh]

I wonder if wed have the same pick rate issues on pr if it didnt have a thermal

like what is attracting ppl to it so much

[gaunt lichen]

Revolver players lmao

[wraith marsh]

bp I can kinda get, but pr I have no clue

[celest basin]

Big Irons fun

[gaunt lichen]

I really think it was just revolver and pr being competitive with eachother

[rose nova]

i think thermal pretty muchs the only like thing
plus the thing that people think that its like a sniper when its not

[gaunt lichen]

Like previous patch pr def was better than revo

[jade iron]

strictly better sniper, in that it kills scouts but gets more rounds per mag

[wraith marsh]

oh right

it kills scouts

[jade iron]

(new player logic)

[wraith marsh]

I Forgot that was an important metric yeah

lmfao

[celest basin]

The forbidden spaghetti lads D:

[celest basin]

As a new player that tracks

[twilit idol]

is there a place for bug reports

[jade iron]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1049599987878723635

[twilit idol]

ight thx

[craggy crater]

Where is fix of r8b4,how long it takes?

[atomic dagger]

Eventually bro don't think too hard or they'll patch it and break another level

[pulsar sigil]

can som1 make me a mod that makes every enemy kill sound like scout death noise

[atomic dagger]

Lol there's one that makes scouts make the THX sound @pulsar sigil

[rose nova]

whys alex playin gtfo for almost 24 hours

[livid gulch]

mind your own business

[crisp jungle]

It's so fun to get like 4 kills with 1 HEL rifle bullet

[foggy isle]

@worldly pecan A2?

theres only a1 in r8

[worldly pecan]

yes

no after e1 you get a2

[foggy isle]

havent done that yet

[eternal thistle]

hi

im looking for 3 people to play

dm me if u want to play and i will send u link to my steam account so u could add me

[obsidian abyss]

guys what should my buddy put on his calc 2 cheat sheet

his teacher lets him have 1 index card worth of info

[balmy moat]

Formulas for polar integrals

[obsidian abyss]

he has those he thinks you are pub for suggesting it

[unreal crystal]

I think he should draw a burst cannon on it

[obsidian abyss]

GERZ YOU DONT EVEN ANSWER JII CHAT

STFU

[unreal crystal]

LOL

[obsidian abyss]

DONT ANSWER ME HERE

[balmy moat]

Man

[unreal crystal]

I WAS ASLEEP

[vestal crystal]

PUB ....

[obsidian abyss]

thats not stoppng you now is it

[unreal crystal]

no

I don’t remember you asking me anything tho

I think you’re just really angry

[obsidian abyss]

we asked you to play

[unreal crystal]

Oh

oh that’s what the ping was

yea I was asleep

[obsidian abyss]

and yesterday we asked you for life advice in crisis situation

[balmy moat]

What about series stuff

[unreal crystal]

how was I meant to know the answer

[obsidian abyss]

hes doing it right now

he thinks you are less pub now

wdym how were you meant to know the answer

you didnt even read the question

[unreal crystal]

I saw there was a big situation going on

[quaint mesa]

what missions have you guys completed solo (with bots) ?

[balmy moat]

Petition to change solo with bots to just bots

[wraith marsh]

the achievements have affirmed that bots do not count as solo

[balmy moat]

Solo is 1 player

[unreal crystal]

Thank you 10cc

[balmy moat]

With bots is +1/2/3

Please

[eternal thistle]

anyone wants to play ?

[balmy moat]

Let's change the wrong terminology

I'm malding while tilted

🫠

[wraith marsh]

why are you tiltedd

[balmy moat]

D2 checkpoint bug got me acting up

And then D2 shinanigans

[wraith marsh]

whats the bug

we didnt get one when we used it

[balmy moat]

The infinite opening one

[eternal thistle]

bug is a type of small animal

[balmy moat]

Like R7D1 main

[wraith marsh]

oh

[balmy moat]

Where it freezes the game

Yeaaaa

That one

[wraith marsh]

wait

on d2???????

[balmy moat]

Yup

2nd checkpoint

[wraith marsh]

oh wait

yeah we got that on a diff level I dont remember which one though

ig its just a thing outside r7d1 now?

[vestal crystal]

Solo with bots or cheeseburger with no cheese what's worse

[wraith marsh]

awesome

[glossy obsidian]

Should I start from Rundown 1 and progress to 8 or just start on 8?

[balmy moat]

Start on R1

[glossy obsidian]

Cool, thanks

[balmy moat]

Solo with bots I can just add my own cheese

[vestal crystal]

[eternal thistle]

@glossy obsidianhey i dm u if u want to play. im on r1b1

[serene jewel]

holy fuck R8 is no joke

[shut vapor]

So true

[wraith marsh]

calle was not lying

[junior latch]

is fun

[visual remnant]

i haven't caught up, so R8 is gonna be the final update of this game?

[shut vapor]

yes

The gripping conclusion to the GTFO story

[visual remnant]

pretty sad for me. I wish this game were such a game that receives constant updates

it's been 4 years though, maybe because I started too late. I began playing only 2 months ago, and now to hear that the game no longer gets updates make it feel like the game is short, but in fact it's not

[wraith marsh]

its definitely not short lol

pretty much everyone who gets this game is not going to finish it

[visual remnant]

i guess it's about 300-400hrs worth of contents

[shut vapor]

80 whole levels to slog through

[vagrant veldt]

Seeing the first E2's.

I still gotta do the first.

[balmy moat]

Lol

I can't believe I'm pubbing E2

Shit's gonna hurt

[serene berry]

godspeed

[vagrant veldt]

I got to R8D1 extract 2 times but blown up there. Lack of ammo.

I did make it to C1PE though.

It was hard as balls.

[earnest forge]

Have fun ! :)

[shut vapor]

I'm convinced E2 pubs will be impossible

[vagrant veldt]

Pubbed R2E1 3 times and R7E1 3 times. IT is possible.

[balmy moat]

My 1st pub squad got to the first alarm

Wiped there

So that's the new bar

[vagrant veldt]

I have yet to try E2 though so maybe.

[wraith marsh]

||third wave of reactor will wipe every single pub that even makes it there||

[balmy moat]

Bet

Can't wait

[vagrant veldt]

That is for E2?

[wraith marsh]

ye

[shut vapor]

You don't understand the sheer density of E2

[vagrant veldt]

So I goitta clear up to E2 fast hguh?

And run that continuosuly.

[wraith marsh]

b4 and up are all very formidable levels

[shut vapor]

B3 too if you include ||the cell choice zone||

[unreal crystal]

the pubs will be a journey im sure

[vagrant veldt]

Well I only need R8 and then all done.

[unreal crystal]

chill my e2 pub grinds are gonna be so fun to watch

i love the first 2 zones of e2

[vagrant veldt]

Dragons?

[earnest forge]

You will likely see them quite a bit

[wraith marsh]

im curious just how bad no foam no scattergun would be

[shut vapor]

Yeah that ||Class 6|| in E2 will end 92.43% of pub runs

[vagrant veldt]

Constant lack of ammo too I bet.

[shut vapor]

Trust me, my maths is perfect 😎

[vagrant veldt]

Now I am eager to E2.

[balmy moat]

Scattergun supremacy

I love it

[wraith marsh]

||I love shooting those alarms, so I think scatter would be the main thing missed||

[balmy moat]

And hate it

[wraith marsh]

I only hate it cuz they buffed it and nerfed the only competitors

big scattergun bought out the industry.,,.

[unreal crystal]

im still confused as to why they even nerfed sniper

[wraith marsh]

same

I thought it would be because of r8 levels

[balmy moat]

[wraith marsh]

but none of them really warrant it

[unreal crystal]

just a really dumb change

killed the gun for literally 0 reason

[earnest forge]

They did not kill it. Reducing its damage would have.

[wraith marsh]

it was already pretty dead after burst cannon was readded

[keen surge]

pickrate maybe ? still a dumb reason

[unreal crystal]

ur telling me youre gonna bring it over burst cannon or scatter?

its pretty dead

[wraith marsh]

it has now lost its only niche

its dead

[balmy moat]

???

Sorry what?

[earnest forge]

Thing is, it will still be picked by new players

[wraith marsh]

and they wont know the difference

[earnest forge]

Because it is named "Sniper"

[wraith marsh]

so why change it?

[visual remnant]

what nerf was it?

[wraith marsh]

points kinda irrelevant

[balmy moat]

Lemme pull up wikichat message link for you

[south roost]

Reducing damage would have been welcome compared to the shity delay between shots

[balmy moat]

#wiki-chat message

[visual remnant]

ty, checking now

[south roost]

it just makes the gun feel painful and i say that as a sniper enjoyer

[visual remnant]

sorry for being a noob but the nerfs mean the gun is extremely slow now right?

[balmy moat]

There is no other reason to take sniper other than newbies choosing it because it says sniper

Scatter is literally the only boss killing weapon in this meta rn

Excluding kraken

[unreal crystal]

the nerfs just dont really make any sense, it was already outclassed and now the guns that outclassed it have been buffed and sniper was nerfed more

[opal delta]

1.3 seconds between shots instead of 0.5 is huge nerf

like in one shot you could instead shoot 3 times

[serene jewel]

is the burst cannon recoil manageable now

[balmy moat]

I mean... it's been managable for quite a while imo

But w/ R8 it seems better somehow

[visual remnant]

i see, since a lot of other guns can already handle special enemies well, this nerf makes it even more overwhelmed

[serene jewel]

can you still one burst giants

[balmy moat]

No

They reduced burst amount but BC gained ammo efficiency against smalls/bigs

[serene jewel]

sad

[balmy moat]

3 per burst now

Instead of 5

[serene jewel]

scattergun it is

[balmy moat]

Basically reduced the boss killing capability

Otherwise BC is fine

Might take time getting used to

[fossil rain]

new guns worth running?

[opal delta]

short rifle = clicker game
burst pistol is fun for easy levels
slug is fun for easy levels

[balmy moat]

For first time funsies? Yes
Otherwise? No

[fossil rain]

i mean the slug shotgun doesnt seem that bad

[opal delta]

if you can hit head consistently then every gun is not that bad

[nocturne sorrel]

do people do "lore" runs? I would like to matchmake, but I'm apprehensive people will want to rush through mission. I like taking my time reading logs exploring the environmental storytelling etc etc

[shut vapor]

There are occasionally people who enjoy searching for lore. With the introduction of achievements, people are definitely going to want to look at lore if they care about 100%ing

[spark vapor]

I tend to search for lore and clues, but not the best thing to do in pub matches due to 'LET ME SCREAM LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT NEW METAAAA' it is better to play solo for that purpose.

[flat perch]

used to be the lore was unskippable.. .. in og r6c1, i can still hear her yelling "i can hear you out there!", joke about it every time scanning a door in alt-r6c1 🙂

[shut vapor]

Still, these people can take 5 seconds to let you take a screenshot to read later

[little ridge]

I mean it's hardly an issue when "lore" is just audiologs and actual textlogs, is it?

[spark vapor]

Debatable at best.

[shut vapor]

You can tell them to cry about it, you aren't speedrunning

[spark vapor]

With R8 that contains a plenty of monologues - meh.

Yeah, but when i do that, they just go full loud and ruin the run.

ig the only R8 i did with players was D1

And probably E1 since it is a bit harsh to do solo

[little ridge]

I dont know, I've always found it hard to care about lore in this game ngl

I couldnt shake off the feeling that it's breadcrumbs until Schaeffer yells at you

Then it just becomes weird

[shut vapor]

Which part of the lore is breadcrumbs

[little ridge]

Everything before R6 to me felt like it

It's all logs in terminals telling how virus/whatnot stuff did X thing and it's bad out there

Which isn't even show don't tell

it's literally write and hope they read

[spark vapor]

'Oh look, they started to see things. These things don't seem to be unreal, however...'

[little ridge]

Most ingame objectives didnt really make a lot of sense either

It felt like the gameplay was, from the beginning, kinda disjointed from the story or even from the lore

The most "progress" wide thing I remember is R3's thingy

[shut vapor]

well considering the lore is about the world, and the gameplay is about 4 prisoners in a facility underground, that makes sense

[little ridge]

I'd say it could have been intertwined more

[graceful hamlet]

Isnt lore more like 4 prisoners sent down as a sort of punishment?

[shut vapor]

not entirely

[spark vapor]

I mean, it depends.

Some - probably.

[graceful hamlet]

In my head I pretend it is lol

[spark vapor]

You are not entirely wrong.

[little ridge]

Dauda did nothing wrong

[spark vapor]

Woods did nothing wrong

[graceful hamlet]

My lore in head is that there is like an evil scientist of sort that needs info on how to make those creatures or something and he uses ex-military blah blah prisoners to do his dirty work

[spark vapor]

Shizo lore

[little ridge]

My lore in the head is that the complex is a result of Bismarck's Germany winning WW1

[graceful hamlet]

Interesting

[little ridge]

Think about it

Schaeffer is a german surname

[graceful hamlet]

True

Could also be the result of Chernobyl

[little ridge]

Bismarcks and Santonian have the same amount of letters

[shut vapor]

He's right. There are no germans since Germany didn't win in WW1`

therefore if Germany won WW1 then it would make sense there are germans

[little ridge]

GTFO= Germany The First Order!!!

[graceful hamlet]

[earnest forge]

[graceful hamlet]

[little ridge]

Think also about the gun manufacturers names: Konig, Shelling...

[graceful hamlet]

Isnt könig from cod?

[little ridge]

Isn't cod a fish?

[graceful hamlet]

Touche

[little ridge]

You know who likes fishes?

[hollow dove]

hey im kinda new to the game does anyone have a free spot in there match i can join or some one can join me?

[graceful hamlet]

Germans i presume

[little ridge]

Bingo

I mean

[graceful hamlet]

Are u german?

[little ridge]

we shut down reactors

[graceful hamlet]

[little ridge]

What is Germany doing right now?

[olive vapor]

i got room for 1

[little ridge]

Shutting down nuclear reactors

[nocturne sorrel]

check the lfg-beginners

[olive vapor]

i dm'd ya

[shut vapor]

Moot point, everyone is 😔

[graceful hamlet]

Except Russians. Their nuclear reactor is sinking still lol

[spark vapor]

still radiating happiness

[graceful hamlet]

I think ppl forgot that if Chernobyl sinks and touches water its a kaboom

But for the game...I think ig radiation is what caused those creatures to mutate no?

[shut vapor]

All my fellas

[shut vapor]

not sure what exactly caused the creatures, It wasn't radiation and I'm pretty sure it wasnt the virus that ravaged the planet, I'd have to assume they came from alternate dimensions

Considering the neutrality from the flyers and the sleepers

[graceful hamlet]

Stranger Things confirmed

Or how would a Brit say it; 'A bit odd innit'

[shut vapor]

A tad peculiar

:3

[graceful hamlet]

[junior latch]

It not 1 shotting giants anymore would probably not be the play

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, just imagine... At that point you're just reinventing HEL Rifle

[jade iron]

I assume "not oneshotting" here would probably mean "DMR for bigs" where a headshot leaves them chip damage away from death

tbh I'm wondering if that might be better than what we have now

[burnt isle]

aw no more GTFO for a while

(im gonna buy it soon)

[grizzled bison]

Well it depends. Is it rundown 3 sniper damage or rundown 2 sniper damage

A lot of early sniper balance was "we don't want it to kill scouts easily" which became irrelevant

[spark vapor]

spear does just that

[wispy bluff]

That was the old burst cannon and frankly i hated it, its exceptionally unpleasant as a feedback

[naive burrow]

You need that walmart zaza to understand this game's lore, but for sure it's not radiation

[upbeat sail]

the new one can still deal with everything the old one could just the ideal distance got pushed back to medium range

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, except its not utter use to use. Its actually like... A fun gun now.

[upbeat sail]

correct

[wispy bluff]

I don't know, maybe i'm just bigoted against x5 bursts

Hated em'

[upbeat sail]

oh the x5 one was vomit enducing to use and scattergun more or less completely took its spot before

[opal thorn]

https://streamable.com/fn7o63

[wispy bluff]

Still fucking deletes your teammates though if they get a funny idea to strafe in a fight

[opal thorn]

the rof is more important but ok

[upbeat sail]

it hurts but it wont delete them in 1 burst anymore

so you can give to a bot and they (probably) wont kill you anymore

[balmy moat]

And now scatter takes almost all the spots

[wispy bluff]

It still does

Players take double damage, remember?

So 20 becomes 40

They will only survive if they are at 100 HP and dont get hit by whole burst

[opal thorn]

?

[unreal crystal]

scatter probably still doesnt take all the spots

[wispy bluff]

Spoiler: they don't tend to have 80 HP at the end of the level

[unreal crystal]

op gun but 1 is enough

[grizzled bison]

Yeah, it became irrelevant

[upbeat sail]

it doesnt, its still borderline useless for hordes and the reload can get you killed easily if your main has bad uptime

[grizzled bison]

Not entirely

[naive burrow]

crazy opinion lmao

[balmy moat]

You only need to kill 2+ to gain full ammo econ with scatter

Per shot

Not really useless for hordes

[upbeat sail]

I mean its the main weapon I use so I know how it can cause issues

[unreal crystal]

i was mostly talking abt the range

[grizzled bison]

Are you using it correctly

[opal thorn]

might be hard to believe but you have 3 other teammates beside you

[grizzled bison]

That argument sucks

[naive burrow]

na it doesn't really

[grizzled bison]

It does

[naive burrow]

makes sense

[upbeat sail]

Im saying it cant replace a machine gun or hel gun/rifle

[unreal crystal]

i dont wanna play on a team with 4 scatterguns that shit sounds so not fun lmao

[grizzled bison]

Oh God no, but it isn't completely fucked if you want to use it against hordes

[naive burrow]

like each gun has different purpose, you just need to find it for it lmao

[grizzled bison]

Sniper is

That argument sucks

[naive burrow]

okay, what doesn't suck?

[grizzled bison]

When weapons that can do more than one role exist

[naive burrow]

care to elaborate, or you just gonna be picky here about people's opinions?