is an eye a nose and a broken skull
#gtfo-chat
true pilot
is an eye a nose and a broken skull
i thought it was a ghost
and some red mist behind it
rose nova
nop
true pilot
i will continoue to see a ghost
glacial shard
got good news and bad news
its confirmed I am getting the game, but got to wait until 22nd
pine root
its confirmed I am getting the game, but got to wait until 22nd
Unfo donβt spoil it while you wait
wispy bluff
Great, it means you'll probably catch the day 1 patch
glacial shard
day 1 patch for what?
glacial shard
Unfo donβt spoil it while you wait
spoil what?
wispy bluff
There's an update like tomorrow
pine root
We are getting a content drop this Thursday
wispy bluff
Somethings gonna break
pine root
Gameplays best blind
pine root
Yup that is fine I am talking gameplay
Best to play with your buds at least for your first 50 hours or so
wispy bluff
Yes.
rose nova
one
wispy bluff
We used to have them replaced completely.
rose nova
that will b added on the next update
glacial shard
Scater gun?
wispy bluff
Save for few basic mainstains.
rose nova
smh my head spoilin the game already uou
im jokin sorry i had to ksmdkm
but yeah basically this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated, and each one had some new guns some new missions n stuff
and on Rundown 7, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and with those they added the guns back and now all of em are permanent
rich slate
my power grows
rich slate
little pro gamer
rose nova
smol pro gamer
rich slate
very tiny
rose nova
but capable
rich slate
drowsy pulsar
The brave little pro gamer
rich slate
game is fun, the sounds are so meaty
rose nova
ikr, u feel every bonk in ur bones
rich slate
its pretty great
rich slate
i missed scout bonks a few times when trying to solo the first mission (didnt go well)
rose nova
sads
but well yeah the scream as they die
i dont get how they scream so high when they wake up and so low when they die
but im glad
drowsy pulsar
I would highly recommend looking up "how to kill a scout" on YouTube. That video made me go from meh to consistent in bonking them
rich slate
ill probably hold off on tutorials for now cause i always go overboard with those
rose nova
yeah i think its super nice to just go on blind and, die a couple times
but u did bonked some
so like
rich slate
makes the cbt all the better
rich slate
its more fun
terse swift
i think it's more swag strats yeah
rich slate
adds a little humpf
drowsy pulsar
Treat them like Goombas
rich slate
i want the scout to see its killer as it dies
terse swift
GTFO would be improved by a goomba stomp mechanic
rose nova
i think it's more swag strats yeah
no its to hit the head better
cause u can do neck hits
and miss
epically
rich slate
mario outfit when ?
terse swift
mario outfit when ?
mask has a moustache and round nose on it
rich slate
yes
rich slate
and you yell YAHOO when you jump
i think its very appropriate for the tone of the game
rose nova
yeah yeah, very scary
rich slate
spookes for days
little ridge
i think it's more swag strats yeah
not really swag, eh
from front or back you can avoid it by aiming high with hammer
from sides jumping helps avoiding bonking the shoulder/whatever
assuming you're on same level as them
rose nova
spookes for days
dies from spookeness
sharp owl
i think its very appropriate for the tone of the game
and it alerts nearby enemies π΅βπ«
rich slate
its perfect
little ridge
When I was starting I didnt jump and my ratio was probably around 50% if approaching from sides
jumping? it skyrocketed
sharp owl
its perfect
petition for proximity chat to be added
little ridge
I only avoid jumping if there's a roof xD
sharp owl
so it forces users to use the chat in the game
rose nova
I only avoid jumping if there's a roof xD
i hate to admit it has happened to me more than usual when going for bigs qwq
rose nova
so it forces users to use the chat in the game
... nah
rose nova
:O
sharp owl
also if you scream too loud
rich slate
shit i meesed it up
sharp owl
say like, βAAH, GIANTβ and itβs too loud it alerts enemies
rich slate
proximity chat would be funny
sharp owl
proximity chat would be funny
pair that with the yahoo jump π
rose nova
shit i meesed it up
gtfo gif attempts :D
rich slate
does the server have restrictions on images ?
rose nova
yeh
rich slate
fair
rose nova
only not in #gtfo-media and spoils channel
but well those are, when gtfo stuff related
ah and the lore channel i forgot
rose nova
by um
noises :>
thick pewter
Oh dear, oh dear, that upcoming Unity business change isn't looking great considering GTFO runs on that engine.
rich slate
by um
noises :>
ill just yell very loudly
rose nova
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
rough robin
Oh dear, oh dear, that upcoming Unity business change isn't looking great consid...
read a little bit about it, there's no way those morons go through with that.
unity engine would never be used again lol
thick pewter
Hopefully they'll walk it back, especially considering the IMMENSE backlash right now.
And according to George Broussard, he heard from some sources within Unity Technologies that the blogpost had been reviewed for weeks, but nobody thought it was a good idea at all in regards to pretty much everything, but were ignored.
Also, apparently the CEO, John Riccitiello, sold a number of shares of the company just a few days before the blogpost went up.
rough robin
wow
thick pewter
This is one hell of a bad situation that he created with this.
earnest forge
Also, apparently the CEO, John Riccitiello, sold a number of shares of the compa...
Is that not like... Illegal ?
thick pewter
Is that not like... Illegal ?
It is, yeah. But we'll have to see if it is insider trading or not he's done.
sharp owl
Is that not like... Illegal ?
idk
but i read companies can take legal action against Unity
thick pewter
If it does turn out to be the case, then they'll need to investigate him.
sharp owl
and i hope they do
earnest forge
Sound quite sus :)
"Yeah, I will get rid of these shares, just in case, before anouncing an unpopular change"
But as you said, we will probably know about it in the end.
It is not good news for Unity-made games in any case
golden totem
Selling shares before a controversial business decision would firmly fall under grounds of insider trading, it just depends on if anyone cares enough to threaten them with legal action
torn grove
does precision rifle one shot scouts anywhere in the head? it's been so long since I've ran it
rose nova
yeh
junior latch
does precision rifle one shot scouts anywhere in the head? it's been so long sin...
Yes as long as in range
wispy bluff
I had a couple of concerning missfires with it.
The range on it is not as big as one would hope...
Go for the occi to be sure
rose nova
think it was 20 or so but maybs the end falloff fucked u more
cause i think its 80 or so, smaller than most weapons
30 fallf start 70 fallof end
rose nova
a stinger i guess its music but kinda also not idk it lasts like a second
sharp owl
It plays like the whole time you're stealthing its not the door opening tracks
rose nova
no i get u it is not that but it is a whole lot shorter
sharp owl
Yeah
rose nova
it says r3 i dont doubt it was only music for r3 or somethin
sharp owl
And other tracks
rose nova
most tracks kinda went and mutaded
or, died
but well yeah idk i guess i never noticed this one much
i was wrong
my dumbass, sorry
sharp owl
Anyway I think if they built off of these tracks with an adaptive music system for waking up a couple of sleepers it would really help the atmosphere
Instead of switching to the combat music
violet jasper
Anyone having any dropping/syncing issues as of late?
quaint crow
Anyone having any dropping/syncing issues as of late?
it's tuesday, it's probably due to steam servers maintenance
shouldn't last too long
violet jasper
kk thank you
rancid iris
im brand new just got the game if someone can teach me how to play
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rose nova
im brand new just got the game if someone can teach me how to play
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
terse swift
just played R2B3, completed the terminal uplink
we all stood there shooting at waves of enemies without realising we were supposed to be extracting
all died
π
rose nova
fak
pine root
we all stood there shooting at waves of enemies without realising we were suppos...
The game is called gtfo
Not stand around and die
This one is on you cheif
terse swift
we didn't GTFO π
rose nova
get the fuckingnot out
formal eagle
anyone know anything about the bots not stepping into the security scan? they were perfectly fine the whole level until we got to the last scan and they refused to step in it
rose nova
hello, um press esc, get em out by puttin the option to 'players only' or closed, and add em back
is a known issue
happens sometimes by unidentified causes
formal eagle
love that, just cost me and my friend our r3c1 victory
rough robin
if you play with bots for any decent amount of time you gotta get good at ESC respawning them
formal eagle
ive played with bots on r1, r2, r4, and r5 and never had any issues. Gotta love how they just now show up after our 5th attempt
rose nova
no yeah same it happened to me after, 250 hours on gtfo with bots and only happened on that same level first alarm
and its weird
but well, idk i guess we both lucky
until now
timber tinsel
It happened to me on a different level!
merry crypt
:?
tough hedge
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tough hedge
ζζ₯γ
rose nova
soon
analog flicker
hollow merlin
is it just me, or are all the main weapon flashlights slightly off from the aiming reticle
rose nova
think the flashlight comes from the gun, so if u get close to a surface u can see it more off and off
hollow merlin
infuriating
sharp owl
think the flashlight comes from the gun, so if u get close to a surface u can se...
except when it glitches through objects
rose nova
yeah
analog flicker
is it just me, or are all the main weapon flashlights slightly off from the aimi...
This happens when you reload cancel
Unless you mean actual slightly.
latent palm
Guys
We have to get over 20k peak players
Tomorrow
Gonna have to beat R7 peak somehow
hollow quarry
R7 peak should be possible, R6 is a popular rundown
18K was for the free weekend, that might be harder π
surreal plaza
we have rundown 8 at home
toxic turtle
hushed owl
We have to get over 20k peak players
I highly doubt it...
To be real not many Players have that much interest anymore in this Game because of Lack of Updates and lack of Communication.
little ridge
lack of "communication", there's simply nothing to communicate anymore
charred ember
Stay The Fuck In
Me when teammate dont do the fucking team bioscan
little ridge
"We're gonna release R8, wew, that's the last. Bye guys!"
Lack of communication comes from the lack of updates
hushed owl
@little ridge see the Problem? If the development is nearly shutdowned of course less people are interested in this Game.
little ridge
Truth is, most people that wanted to try GTFO already did and they didnt like it, so. Only way to get more peak players would just be freeweeks but for whatever reason they dont want to do more of those
little ridge
<@1090749314822832188> see the Problem? If the development is nearly shutdowned ...
I'm not disagreeing with you
hushed owl
Its nothing against Calle because he is "only" the Community Manager. But even when 2 devs need 3 months for a rundown that was already there is just bad.
little ridge
It's just that the game's done. There'll be some other peaks with R6 re-release and R8 and PERHAPS some with freeweeks if they ever decide to make freeweeks again but that's it
hushed owl
True. Probably one of the Main things are only Modded rundowns that keep some Players
junior latch
just because a game doesnt get updated anymore doesnt mean it wont have players lol
obviously people will stop playing
New people will buy it
but yea, a modded scene is usually how a game grows further
little ridge
We're talking about shit like the peaks for freeweek, release, whatever
junior latch
Its nothing against Calle because he is "only" the Community Manager. But even w...
Also not the best point to make
junior latch
We're talking about shit like the peaks for freeweek, release, whatever
You are, he doesnt seem to be
but yea, the only real peak i can see coming is r8
junior latch
You are, he doesnt seem to be
Tho i might also be missreading
sharp owl
D-Day 1
glacial shard
what engine does GTFO use?
sharp owl
Unity
sharp owl
what engine does GTFO use?
Unity
wispy bluff
Much unfortunately unity
sharp owl
Honestly don't think the runtime fee is that big of a deal now that they've clarified some things
$0.20 on first install of the game if the game has sold over 200000 copies and made $200000
glacial shard
Unity fee is gonna fail
little ridge
I dont think that stuff is retroactive anyway
wispy bluff
My comment is not even aimed at latest controversy. My exposure to unity just hasn't been great over the years.
sharp owl
Well when you give tools to create things to the masses for free there's bound to be a lot of garbo slop made
wispy bluff
I'm not sure neither Phoenix Point nor this game count for that. Both games hilariously seem to experience issues with correctly loading save states and variety of bugs happening as a result after loading.
wispy bluff
I know, I know. The sample pool is not great. Still...
Two different companies fucking up the same thing in two radically different games is amusing to me, that's all.
sharp owl
I've played quite a few unity games and haven't really experienced many bugs like that
jade iron
from what limited exposure I've had to the innards of unity, it seems like they started from a pretty decent foundation (entity-component-system etc)
sharp owl
Trying my hardest to not bring up rain world
wispy bluff
Literally one of my favorite games of all time
Alright maybe it is just dev incompetency
jade iron
but it seems like some of the features have pretty basic implementations, and you see documentation for more elaborate implementations that have been abandoned (e.g. networking, they had a lockstep/rollback implementation in the works but it appears to be dead)
earnest forge
All single player games though
jade iron
so maybe devs who work largely within the confines of the frameworks unity defines can be expected to put out games with some pretty basic limitations
whereas competent engineers can use what works and re-engineer stuff that doesn't
10cc appears to be founded by some really strong graphics guys, but it doesn't seem like their netcode chops are that great
so we get stunning game (for an indie dev) with poor, possibly out-of-the-box netplay
wispy bluff
Netcode seems to be universally just something everyone struggles with
jade iron
nah, there's a proud tradition of FPS netcode being done right
wispy bluff
Pretty much all FromSoft games are heavily burdened by online features that barely work with variety of exploits
sharp owl
Lol
jade iron
really sophisticated combinations of prediction and interpolation dating back to quake engine
and unreal, source, etc
there are issues in pvp shooters around peeking that are probably impossible to solve, but pve should probably have perfect netcode
a majority of modern fighting games have near perfect netcode too, see rollback
wispy bluff
there are issues in pvp shooters around peeking that are probably impossible to ...
see blood splats
no damage dealt
CSGO is just FPS XCOM to me
jade iron
not to say it's easy, but for a dev whose game is online real-time multiplayer by default it should be bread-and-butter to get netcode into a good place
jade iron
>see blood splats
>no damage dealt
CSGO is just FPS XCOM to me
again there are issues in pvp shooters which are basically impossible to solve, you're eating a rollback
the flipside is a player getting shot while they're around a corner
with non-negligible ping you will always have some mix of both problems in a pvp shooter
but in pve, the game should know where enemies are pathing to well in advance and be able to apply prediction accordingly
torpid rose
Artek did you get cs2 key
wispy bluff
No, why would I? I don't even like that game.
torpid rose
O
quiet obsidian
Come back after not playing for months on end and come dace to face with a pain i wasnt expecting
normal lake
FURI is unity too π
Not every day someone mentions that banger
true pilot
Not every day someone mentions that banger
damn how long has it been since FURI released
such a good game
i hear thunder, pitter patter
last parrot
hel scatter
rose nova
dies
mystic moss
hel hel gun confirmed !!
green rivet
hel hel gun confirmed !!
Lfg r6c3 first clear
latent palm
lfg R6D3 first clear
true pilot
lfg R6E2
analog flicker
stone sleet
opaque stag
yay, the bots decided to stop scanning halfway through an s6
green rivet
yay, the bots decided to stop scanning halfway through an s6
They got tired of carrying you 
dire glacier
We have finally beat R2d2. 
π
wispy bluff
GG
barren tree
last parrot
that was the first level we beat that seemed impossible at the start
tidal jay
Knew it sounded cursed
tidal jay
R8 surely
true pilot
unlesz i just predicted alt R6 somehow and they will add both E1 and E2 to it
rose nova
r23 :3
rough robin
most successful gtfo discord gif attempt
tidal jay
I am ashamed
true pilot
true pilot
Lmao
sharp siren
do it
true pilot
end what
true pilot
#gtfo-media might have them enabled but im not sure
obsidian abyss
just make hel choke mod you cowards
wispy bluff
Hmmmm
sharp owl
whats the meta loadout again
someoen mentioned something about "imagine not using the meta loadout"
which one would that be
wispy bluff
HEL revolver and veruta probably?
sharp owl
i always found that gun way too difficult to wrangle
wispy bluff
Lacks the big punch to delete big surprises, but as long as you can keep your distance and stay alive - you effectively have infinite ammo
obsidian abyss
best guns on average are hel revolver and hel gun
but hel shotgun sawed off have solid purposes
wispy bluff
Right, hel gun too. Keep forgetting it exists.
obsidian abyss
and secondary has a lot of options for specific missions
sharp siren
fun fact chokemod had pen enable in og r4 but obviously that shit been broken on shotgun since forever so it didnt work
wispy bluff
Fascinating
wraith marsh
It has pierce 1
wispy bluff
Honestly I wouldn't mind
sharp owl
weren't people saying that bullpup was bad because reload bad
the veruta has a 4 second reload
wispy bluff
The 4 shells started disgusting me over time
Oh wow 10 enemies are running towards me and I can only kill 4
obsidian abyss
bruh what is the veruta
wraith marsh
It's reload compared to what is done with the mag
sharp owl
60 round charge up machinegun
wraith marsh
Bullpup is bad for other reasons too
wispy bluff
The difference is that Bullpup is a main weapon (which usually have fast reload speed) with shit damage
obsidian abyss
all the pew pew pew automatic primaries have way too much overlap
wraith marsh
Hel shotty reloads longer in main and is still awesome
obsidian abyss
to be anything special
obsidian abyss
even autopistol stager doesnt feel useful anymore
wispy bluff
Veruta has 50% bigger mag, deals like twice the damage too (probably) and long reloads are normal for specials.
rose nova
plus cancellation
sharp owl
its annoying because aren't bullpups supposed to be more easily handled
torpid rose
CROWD CONTROL
rose nova
its annoying because aren't bullpups supposed to be more easily handled
it is, its just bad on the other fronts
but it has beautiful recoil
obsidian abyss
for bulpup vs others i think its honestly that smg, machine pistol, assualt rifle, etc etc all perform so similarly
rose nova
and a, not so bad sight
obsidian abyss
that theres nor eason to pick bulpup
which just feels the worst because of reload
sharp owl
it is, its just bad on the other fronts
no no, i mean IRL aren't bullpups more maneuverable because of their design
rose nova
ah irl no idea
wispy bluff
Okay, quick Google search
wispy bluff
Bullpup 1.91 dmg
Veruta 3.51 dmg
Yep. Almost twice the damage.
sharp owl
wow ok
obsidian abyss
wut
rose nova
is just gonna have way funkier stats
wraith marsh
Doesn't matter bd
obsidian abyss
someone thought bulpup does the same damage as machine gun?
rose nova
someone thought bulpup does the same damage as machine gun?
no like to see if it was double the dmg
it was to see that
obsidian abyss
with fire rate bulpup might be similar dps idk
machine guns will always be terrible to me idk
torpid rose
60% accuracy vs 90% accuracy
obsidian abyss
well ur baby has the tisms
wraith marsh
I don't care for them either
rose nova
:[
obsidian abyss
in a video game
wraith marsh
Semis are just better and more rewarding
rose nova
bullpup i do not, like at all it tickles my avocados
sharp owl
based
sharp owl
i want the hel revolver to be reskinned into a dmr so i can run it without looking like a goof
thanks for coming to my ted talk
the thing is a dmr anyway
torpid rose
Deadly's Marksman Rifle
wispy bluff
Bullpup honestly would not be as bad if not for horrendous down time. Ability to dish out laser precision pain on a medium range is great, but once that counter hits 0... Big oof.
torpid rose
Deadly's Marksman Rifle
wispy bluff
Dedicated.
sharp owl
designed (to) murder (real)
obsidian abyss
deadlys marksman rifle
obsidian abyss
you guys just dont know
rose nova
qwq dan wtf
wispy bluff
Marksmen are not really needed in modern combat... Except for when they are. Which is why they dedicate one guy to the job and give him the rifle min maxed for it.
wispy bluff
It is what it is
And frankly - preferable.
Better than getting shredded by a frag or something.
sharp owl
but its such a nerd thing to do
this is why we need to go back to like 2000bc battle tactics
the two strongest men of both armies fight and whoever wins wins the battle and that's that
wispy bluff
Oh, modern war is mega cringe.
They don't even shoot you anymore.
They buy remote drones from ebay, glue grenades to them and vuala.
sharp owl
do people actually do that
wispy bluff
Ukraine conflict is currently the testing grounds for viability of drone combat
wispy bluff
I think some American guntubers even did their own video on it.
sharp siren
Ukraine conflict is currently the testing grounds for viability of drone combat
cant wait for china to invade taiwan
and im gonna get my ass drafted
wispy bluff
Trenches have been effectively rendered useless as long as the other guys have some drones laying around.
Were gonna see rapid advancements in drone-combat tech.
sharp siren
EMP's gonna go crazy
wispy bluff
Precision jammers, lasers...
sharp owl
i wanna see what happens to war when soldiers are no longer meta
wispy bluff
Hell, they shot one down in Kremlin. Could've been a psyop, but still.
sharp owl
anyway back to gtfo
the hel revolver needs a dmr reskin
i would run it constantly if it was like that
wispy bluff
I hate ironsights
sharp owl
in general or in this game
sharp owl
honestly i prefer pistol irons
wispy bluff
At least rifles are kind enough to have rings or something
Put the guy into the ring - got it
sharp owl
but useless designs
wispy bluff
But pistols...
sharp owl
pistol irons are simple
and that's how i like it
1 dot with 2 on the sides
none of this design
with all the lines and circles and noise
the only problem with irons is that the gun is in the way if the enemy is below the crosshair
wispy bluff
Single red dot in the middle of the glass is all anyone needs
wispy bluff
The one secret that bothers me to this day:
sharp owl
revvy flashlight?
wispy bluff
Does the bullet goes into the edge between ironsight and the open field... Or INTO the ironsight. Especially if it has notches on it.
sharp owl
oh so you mean if the bullets lands where the center of the iron sight is
or if it lands directly above the iron sight
wispy bluff
Yes
wispy bluff
Perfect example. That's not a green dot - that's a green triangle.
Does the bullet goes INTO the triangle or is the triangle POINTING to where the bullets goes
sharp owl
that grip though
for that gun probably where it points
as a rule i've noticed that triangle sights place the bullet there
unreal crystal
@obsidian abyss what do you think about the hel deadly's marksman rifle coming out tomorrow?
wispy bluff
How would i ever know the difference
sharp owl
why is that thing a webm image
wispy bluff
Wiki things
obsidian abyss
Whats the stats GERZHULL aka beth
rose nova
electronic arts access
unreal crystal
you have to have watched all of deadly's videos to be able to wield it tho
wispy bluff
My man doesn't just goes for the low hanging fruit - he lunges for it with both hands
unreal crystal
otherwise it just does no damage
unreal crystal
truly
sharp owl
another funny game called the long dark where i hunt bugs
because the devs forgor what QA is
and i really like the game so i decided to do that
latent palm
another funny game called the long dark where i hunt bugs
hah
funni how i foundout about AC6 and grind it for 2 whole days
games hard as shit
sharp owl
it is?
fleet shale
latent palm
56th tries on Baeltus
32nd try on C-spider
and still trying to beat it
with my Evangalion shit
junior latch
hm?
sharp owl
missing server sync now
latent palm
what is bro on about
junior latch
missing server sync now
that seems to be on your side 
?
sharp owl
he might be talking about desync
latent palm
he might be talking about desync
bad connections to host
rough robin
and no ammo
tidal jay
Fuck it, no doors
rough robin
no sprinting either. your character sprains his ankle dropping from the HSU
sharp owl
hm, 15 times of changelog for last 24h?
gray pilot
get well soon
rose nova
its a boy
last lance
yo anyone else getting like server lag and desync or just me and my friend?
sharp owl
yes they try to deploying some contents for upcoming R6
in terms of the Steam DB checked the 15 times of the changelog last 24h
and that might be problem with host connection
and i also felt last few game
sadly
if u wanna avoid that desync problem, play this game after 14h later
lavish jay
and maybe give it an extra few hours to be on the safe side in case you have already obtained all the existing cosmetics :^)
sharp owl
~~and maybe give it an extra few hours to be on the safe side in case you have a...
LoL
serene berry
~~and maybe give it an extra few hours to be on the safe side in case you have a...
but then i can't RESET REQUEST :(
lavish jay
~~but then i can't RESET REQUEST :(~~
then get ready to start speedrunning ALT://R6 π
serene berry
then get ready to start speedrunning ALT://R6 π
i maxxed out my reset requests for 4 and 5, i am very excited to run it back 
quiet obsidian
Im still kinda sour that for an entire mission me and a group went through
It was only glowsticks
Every crate, every locker
Just. Glowsticks
signal forum
an entire hour of looking for those 10 codes and at extraction point i got killed by accidental friendly fire xd
modern coral
an entire hour of looking for those 10 codes and at extraction point i got kille...
Your team didn't extract, though?
wispy bluff
an entire hour of looking for those 10 codes and at extraction point i got kille...
And the problem iiiiis?...
Killing at extraction point is a known joke around here. It doesn't matter as long as even 1 guy extracts - everyone gets their clear and there is no penalty for extracting dead.
hollow merlin
I'm assuming the "accidental" part means they got mobbed on extract subsequently
mint light
Im still kinda sour that for an entire mission me and a group went through
use terminals
wispy bluff
use terminals
I don't see how that helps.
Unless you're implaying that they should not open a single locker that wasn't specifically pinged.
quartz cape
I cant use terminals, as I dont have a computer science degree
loud gale
I cant use terminals as I dont know what item names are
lavish jay
They're all called Craig.
loud gale
I cant communicate with Craig because he keeps telling me that what I type in doesnt exist
lavish jay
I cant communicate with Craig because he keeps telling me that what I type in do...
Craig told me to tell you to try typing in LIST ZONE_??? (replacing ??? with a zone number, like the one you're currently in)
crimson oriole
usually displayed on the terminal screen when you first interact with it. If not, just type in the "PING" command with no arguments, and it will give you some text with your current zone number
quartz cape
or you could search everywhere like a real gamer would
crimson oriole
there's also a few environmental cues (signs, door numbers, etc.) that indicate your current zone
loud gale
yea look at everything all the time
hollow merlin
Now to figure out what zone I am in
INFO command will show zone number of the current terminal at the top right of screen
it's also what shows up when you first enter the terminal
mint light
i meant it literally
Yeah and if you used terminals you would have found the ones containing the resources
lavish jay
(I think they were saying that there were free glowsticks in all the lockers - even in the ones that may have had other resources)
mint light
(I think they were saying that there were free glowsticks in all the lockers - e...
Very poor wording on the first message then
quiet obsidian
i meant it literally
there was no ammo, no medkits, just glowsticks
so many glowsticks
mint light
there was no ammo, no medkits, just glowsticks
Yeah such a level does not exist
mint light
what level?
quiet obsidian
it was like
R4 level like
D?
R4D1
maybe that one
all i remember is the sheer amount of giants
mint light
R4D1 that's a reactor filled to the brim with ammo and stuff
mint light
yeah seems like it
quiet obsidian
it wasnt a reactor level
i dont remember the level
it was like
lots of fog
lots of chargers and giants
mint light
There is not ONE level with only glowsticks in boxes. you got hacked or you were not listing the resources right on the terminal ( if you were listing at all)
quiet obsidian
i dont doubt you
but at the same time we found so many glowsticks
it became a running joke the rest of the night
mint light
well if someone was hacking and replaving everything with glowsticks ....
quiet obsidian
which was doubtful
mint light
lots of chargers and giants
Could have been R5D1
quiet obsidian
because we did find other resources
it had a charger scout in a room full of giants
which was...chaos
mint light
Could be R5D1 yes
quiet obsidian
fair enough
lavish jay
which was...chaos
ah yes, mystery solved, R7E1 :^)
quiet obsidian
it was just stupid how we kept getting glowsticks
we opened the boxes in the starting area
mint light
ah yes, mystery solved, R7E1 :^)
don't think he was giving the name π
quiet obsidian
glowsticks and long range flashlights
mint light
cause there ain't no charger scout in a giant room
mint light
we opened the boxes in the starting area
R5D1 first area also actually has no resources but that's like 2 rooms
Yeah R5D1 and then you had a bridge in the next zone
quiet obsidian
hmm
there wasnt a bridge
so it probably wasnt that one
the second area was a big area where you needed a battery and had like
three security gates
mint light
three security gates
Yeah and the middle is a bloody bridge π
mint light
R5D1. there ya go
mint light
it really shouldn't be. stealth clear at ease, do alarm, stealth clear, do alarm etc etc
quiet obsidian
we did do a lot of stealth clearing
mint light
where you died?
quiet obsidian
the thing that hung us out to dry was the charger scout and the class 6 moving alarm
mint light
the thing that hung us out to dry was the charger scout and the class 6 moving a...
It ain't the only charger scout
quiet obsidian
i know
but we didnt get very far
so i would say the first charger scout
it was the first one i had ever encountered
mint light
it was the first one i had ever encountered
Oof you might have gone a bit too deep then. cause they appear wayyy earlier.
Try some shorter/easier missions
and come back to this later cause you were FAR
from the end
sharp owl
is running machine pistol viable for close quarters n stuff
not the hel stagger thing
the other one
mint light
is running machine pistol viable for close quarters n stuff
Meh. it can work if the rest of the team has some good stuff
sharp owl
they do that for me already dw about it
quiet obsidian
i was testing guns and what not
and found that i like the bullpup rifle and the hollow point sniper rifle
frankly the amount of times we messed up the charger scout was a travesty
rose nova
even when they were very close
nah hel shotties not for that, is for usin on big waves, not on individuals
quiet obsidian
and then when i succeeded it was like i had heartburn
sharp owl
yeah
rose nova
and found that i like the bullpup rifle and the hollow point sniper rifle
nom nom sniper
i dont like bullpup but snipers fun
lavish jay
and found that i like the bullpup rifle and the hollow point sniper rifle
#gtfo-spoiler-chat message well uhh
prepare thyself
sharp owl
hope they do something with sentries to make them more strong individually
wraith marsh
im assuming itll just become not the black sheep, still not meta tho
sharp owl
that'd be the best
quiet obsidian
prepare thyself
I am confusion
lavish jay
changes to the ||bullpup|| are confirmed
wispy bluff
(bullpup is super cringe and needs buffs badly)
mint light
hope they do something with sentries to make them more strong individually
Burst is very good already. I highly doubt they can salvage the auto
rose nova
1700 bullets ahre
sharp owl
i was talking about everything except burst
mint light
i was talking about everything except burst
you want to buff sentries? nerf foam + mines
lavish jay
Changingβ’οΈ
sharp owl
you want to buff sentries? nerf foam + mines
bring them up to the burst sentry's standard
rose nova
so they are nerfing it?
no probs buffin it
mint light
so they are nerfing it?
doubt it as it's considered quite trash
rose nova
being honest, bullpup is not good
wispy bluff
Anyway. The glowsticks are a big meme of this game. In a bad sense, that is. They're everywhere and are only useful for few rare freak cases where you seriously just need to see for once.
rose nova
like is not high, in the cmparisons
rose nova
Anyway. The glowsticks are a big meme of this game. In a bad sense, that is. The...
glowie
wispy bluff
I'll just take the fog repeller, thank you.
sharp owl
there's no sense in having 1 bad, 2 meh and 1 good option in a category
might as well have 4 decent ones
mint light
Anyway. The glowsticks are a big meme of this game. In a bad sense, that is. The...
still miss the times where you could find red AND green glowsticks
quiet obsidian
i find it hilarious
mint light
and now we limited to ..... yellow
lavish jay
there's no sense in having 1 bad, 2 meh and 1 good option in a category
inb4 burst sentry nerf to bring it down to the same standard as the others π
quiet obsidian
how i got a modifier for +35% glowstick power and +17% sentry damage
wispy bluff
This reminds im yet to do a glowstick run
just stack that glowstick power, i'm genuinely curious if i even be able to tell the difference
sharp owl
maybe in fog
wispy bluff
Probably not, because i don't even remember what vanilla glowstick does (the range, the brightness...)
sharp owl
they need to add raytracing to this game to make glowsticks completely useless
burnt flume
gtfo lightmap
sharp owl
because indirect light from flashlights bounching from walls n stuff doesn't trigger them
mint light
there's no sense in having 1 bad, 2 meh and 1 good option in a category
Always was like this. they just can't balance. Just look at the melees, you take hammer or you trollin
sharp owl
3 guys take hammer and one guy takes a knife and the complimentary bag of cocaine
rose nova
me takin the bat
mint light
3 guys take hammer and one guy takes a knife and the complimentary bag of cocain...
4 with a hammer or 3 hammers and a knife make no difference
rose nova
yes it does
sharp owl
yeah but that guy can be zooming
mint light
that's the real f'd up part
rose nova
knife is fun
sharp owl
fun doesn't show up on the endscreen
mint light
yeah but that guy can be zooming
They all zoom just 0.1 sec slower
quiet obsidian
frankly im both annoyed and delighted in the heartbeat moniter
mint light
the solution is to nerf the hammer
Yes it needs a nerf
sharp owl
what nerf would u give it then
wispy bluff
buff hammer stamina consumption
wispy bluff
but it doesn't make sense
wraith marsh
just nerf stagger
wispy bluff
that's the entire point of hammers
sharp owl
agreed
modern coral
that's the entire point of hammers
??
mint light
that's the entire point of hammers
No it's the pointnof the bat
modern coral
Point of hammer is the high damage stat.
wraith marsh
games dying already, dont ruin one of the main things we play for
wispy bluff
realistically i mean
modern coral
Stagger is completely unneccessary.
sharp owl
it makes perfect sense for a sledgehammer blow to stagger an enemy
mint light
the pointnof the Hammer atm is being better than all the others
wispy bluff
you get slammed with that - you're not staying on your feet
sharp owl
taking that away feels unnatural
modern coral
Break limbs, loser.
lavish jay
the point of the spear is at the tip of it :)
wispy bluff
For what its worth i don't think bat should be the stagger machine it is either. Some lego stick staggers 2 meter tall walls of muscle, yeah right.
rose nova
is the bumps
sharp owl
what would the bat do then
lavish jay
well, it's a futuristic-ish dystopian nightstick
rose nova
maybs it has stagger fluid through it
noble path
any discord for BR players?
rose nova
en #lfg-latin-america bro, ahi hay uno
lavish jay
presumably standard issue for KSOs to use against civilians disruptive elements to bludgeon them enough to stop them from resisting arrest but not enough to get accused of conducting summary executions
rose nova
facts and logic
noble path
en <#637691525907742761> bro, ahi hay uno
ty β€οΈ
lavish jay
and the intimidating shape of it further helps it to keep the peace :)
wispy bluff
This is pointless without a new melee stat or feature
Bleeding? Slow? Any status effect all? Contusion? Fuck's sake.
burnt flume
I'd take early access hammer over current version hammer any day personally (even though that's objectively the weaker choice)
wispy bluff
Otherwise its just hammer junior
sharp owl
that's not necessarily bad
it could be better against like.. cfoamed tanks or something
because you can swing it faster
and more easily
burnt flume
like, hammer doesn't need to have so much stagger
sharp owl
if hammer doesn't have stagger then nothing else deserves stagger
lavish jay
bat should definitely be able to do more stagger than the hammer
burnt flume
they won't restore no charge occis
lavish jay
seeing as stagger is the whole selling point of the bat
sharp owl
bat should definitely be able to do more stagger than the hammer
it.. can?
wraith marsh
it cant
lavish jay
despite only being able to do up to 60 stagger per hit (sledgehammer can do up to 100)
sharp owl
yes, but bat charges faster
so it can apply more stagger more often than the hammer
after the first blow
burnt flume
does that really matter though?
burnt flume
hammer still staggers plenty on small enemies with non-charged hits
lavish jay
sure, tapping with the bat does deal more stagger than sledgehammer taps (15 instead of 9)
burnt flume
for giants you'd probably have longer staggers from limb breaks
wispy bluff
hammer still staggers plenty on small enemies with non-charged hits
Maybe this one is the main issues after all
Is there a way to nerf quick stagger without nerfing full charge stagger?
burnt flume
yeah
burnt flume
you change the stagger multiplier
lavish jay
Is there a way to nerf quick stagger without nerfing full charge stagger?
yes
sledgehammer already has a 3x uncharged and 5x charged stagger multiplier
wispy bluff
Right. I guess i can agree to that. Its either that or slowing down the quick swing until they are Dark Souls Zweihander or something.
burnt flume
bullshit stagger hammer is so fucking funny
lavish jay
(bat has flat 5x stagger multiplier)
wispy bluff
I honestly wouldn't mind it if the staggerless alternatives had something to show for it
sharp owl
to me the sledgehammer should be a big alpha damage weapon, but difficult to use after the first swing
(just personal opinion)
wispy bluff
like, oh i dont know, radically increased damage output
wispy bluff
Of course then we risk running into the problem "why stagger when you can kill" again...
sharp owl
because it's so massive
wispy bluff
Maybe other melees were a mistake after all
sharp owl
they were not
burnt flume
that's the problem with adding more options
rose nova
Of course then we risk running into the problem "why stagger when you can kill" ...
thats kinda a very different issue when talkin of auto sentry and then a melee
burnt flume
well, maybe not a problem, but a consequence
rose nova
but what do i know
lavish jay
you get one massive hit, and then charging it becomes a nuisance
I guess that that kinda applies to the spear (has highest potential precision damage - only when fully charged, but is a bit crap in other situations)
burnt flume
not everything can be equal, not everything can be good
sharp owl
I guess that that kinda applies to the spear (has highest potential precision da...
the spear should have never had this property
spears are lighter than sledgehammers
there's no reason to make it a heavy melee
it is not one
let me roleplay as a fuckin spartan already
lavish jay
spears are lighter than sledgehammers
Well, technically, it's a repurposed drillhead
wispy bluff
But like what is the designated role of dagger?
Kill smalls quick. Hammer does that already.
What is the designated role of bat?
Stunlock everyone. Hammer does that already.
What is the designated role of spear?
... Fuck if i know. Training wheels?
sharp owl
well yeah but it's still probably much lighter
lavish jay
But like what is the designated role of dagger?
Kill smalls quick. Hammer does t...
l o n g
sharp owl
the role of the spear should be
"Kill enemies when they're too far away to hurt you"
sharp owl
that is the traditional role of a spear
kill before they reach you
keep them away
don't get up close and personal
lavish jay
well yeah it does have longer range than the other melees
wispy bluff
I hate bad game balance, i really do.
Not knowing the numbers makes me sleep better at night.
lavish jay
it also deals 2.75 more precision damage (22.75) than the hammer, but 2.5 less non-precision damage (17.5). and much less stagger
burnt flume
figures don't care about your feelings
sharp owl
s
burnt flume
now suffer with your, uh, 1x stagger multi?
lavish jay
tbf I started typing it before that message arrived
rose nova
pi my beloved
wispy bluff
On that note: its 3:AM so i'm going to attempt to sleep.
Good luck tommorow lads while beta-testing the new update. Beware of dreaded apparel non-drop.
rose nova
zzz
burnt flume
numbers and i are besties
I bet you study mathematics π
quartz cape
I bet you study mathematics π
wish i did, then i could use the gtfo terminal
lavish jay
honestly, looking at the numbers, I can see what the intent they were going for was
burnt flume
I will not play r6, and if I did then I would not have a good time
rose nova
idek how to read
burnt flume
I have better things to do, better games to play
ALT rundowns aren't real, they can't hurt me
lavish jay
even if they kinda bodged the implementation of the intent
burnt flume
I'll wake up in the morning and it'll just be R7
31759, that's what it'll be
the little number at the bottom of my screen
quartz cape
31759, that's what it'll be
it feels like its been so long...
wraith marsh
I do not know when im playing r6
but it wil lbe fun
and last not long lol
at least a lot of the levels look fun to replay
shut vapor
What was B2
burnt flume
contaminant
shut vapor
i rember now
burnt flume
some r6 missions were pretty cool or had cool bits
rose nova
i ember now :O
shut vapor
burnt flume
but it's hard when you don't care much for the current version of the game
shut vapor
some r6 missions were pretty cool or had cool bits
r6dx was fun
burnt flume
if I wanted I could also fetch the old files and some friends to play them
r6dx felt awful because of the performance issues (and skill issues)
sharp owl
π«΅
rough robin
π«΅
burnt flume
says the cheaters with their infinite scout screams, better bots, and whatever else have you
stam is eh
quartz cape
i do NOT use better BOTS π‘ π‘ π‘
quartz cape
isnt that just a bug
burnt flume
if it is a bug, why is there a clip of you abusing it?????
quartz cape
there is?
burnt flume
what next, door bug is just a bug too???
lavish jay
But yeah the design idea behind each of the melees was probably:
- Hammer -> the basic choice that's good at everything.
- Spear -> precision-based sidegrade to the hammer (can kill stuff further away, more potential single-hit damage if you can hit the weakpoint, but more punishing when swarmed/you fail to kill in one hit)
- Bat -> attempting to turn the pre-rework Autopistol into a melee weapon (less damage, apparently more stagger)
- Knife -> obligatory stealth-oriented high-risk high-reward weapon (at the cost of being rather crap outside of stealth)
Ultimately, I'd say that the problem is that the non-hammer melees don't do a very good job of filling the niches that they were clearly designed to fill - leading to the absence of drawbacks offered by the hammer making it the optimal choice.
quartz cape
im more epic than i thought
rough robin
But yeah the design idea behind each of the melees was probably:
* Hammer -> the...
it's odd to be that the hammer's chosen as the all-rounder, bat feels like it would fulfill that role better while a heavy-duty sledgehammer is more for giants
burnt flume
knife is pretty good outside of stealth if you're still facing smalls
knife r4e1 reactor
lavish jay
it's odd to be that the hammer's chosen as the all-rounder, bat feels like it wo...
the spear's extended reach was probably intended for making giants easier (can hit the head from further away)
lavish jay
it's odd to be that the hammer's chosen as the all-rounder, bat feels like it wo...
also, seeing as the hammers were already the melee weapons of GTFO prior to the change - it's like hammer = GTFO mario = obvious choice or something along those lines
lavish jay
knife is pretty good outside of stealth if you're still facing smalls
good point
lavish jay
true
sharp owl
infinite scout scream
what does this do
pine root
what does this do
Softlock enemy ai until you force a scout common update
burnt flume
Holy datablocks
pine root
Do you know how force it?
sharp owl
good question
pine root
Welp might be hard to cheese if you donβt know how to do it
burnt flume
now ill cheese every lobby i get into
You didn't already door bug in every pub?
sharp owl
DJ grounded me for that
pine root
good question
Just so you know you can get out of it with c foam or death tick update
It will stop extraction from spawning so you need to get out of it at some point
sharp owl
whats a death tick update
pine root
whats a death tick update
When all players are dead there is a clock that starts this can get you out of some loops so if you rezed someone when going down you will stay alive and get out of the loop
It is a death tick update
It also is the reason why you have the funny instant death screen
Because that clock is the clock that needs to tick up to like 20 for the level to be over
quartz cape
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