carrying isnt fun
#gtfo-chat
true pilot
golden totem
It's only carrying if you purposely take on doing all of the important stuff instead of using the good player as a fallback in case things go wrong
glacial shard
So A tier?
golden totem
The easiest set of levels
rose nova
yeh
golden totem
Tiers go from A-E, with increasing difficulty as you progress through the alphabet
glacial shard
guns that help new people?
golden totem
Try whatever seems good, highly recommend sticking with weapons with lots of ammo though
rose nova
eh, some ammo limited guns can b very nice too, tho depends more on skill
golden totem
Assault Rifle + machine gun [either one] is usually what I recommend first if you really can't decide, but that's just so you can get a feel for what you want out of weapons
junior latch
Theres shotguns which let you not have to aim super hard for ok impact
And a lot of guns that dont rly requite headshots
golden totem
Most of the guns massively benefit from headshots, but it's not something to sweat when you're starting off
Though I will highly recommend improving your aim if you can
flat panther
Anyone one here looking for a teammate? I’m having trouble finding people to play with.
wispy bluff
guns that help new people?
Assault Rifle + Heavy Assault Rifle. Inoffensive basic b@#$ gun combo.
golden totem
Anyone one here looking for a teammate? I’m having trouble finding people to pla...
Try the LFG
rose nova
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
rose nova
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
glacial shard
are all turrets good?
rose nova
- burst sentry is very flexible, it's nice for medium ranges n stuff
- sniper sentry is high dmg, usually needs biotracker symbiosis to like shoot somewhat fast, and in long ranges is nice, tho not a lot of ammo
- shotgun is ok, its useful for choke points and for corners n stuff, usually for close quarters, but it shoots too fast with bio pings and can waste some ammo tho
- auto sentry, staggers, doesn't really kill, it's a more coop sentry
so it's a bit more niche, and usually only like really takes advantage of that factor in a few occasions
sharp owl
each fullfil a certain role
sharp owl
shotgun sentry is ok for beginners
junior latch
ah yes let me place it somewhere where it
- might shoot us in the bag
- might not shoot at all
- might shoot from way too far away to do anything
the base one also has only half the ouput at the same tool cost
sharp owl
thats fair 😦
wispy bluff
are all turrets good?
- Burst - solid all-rounder. Decent damage, decent stagger, works best at close-to-medium ranges.
- Shotgun and Sniper - two brothers of different mothers. They have a unique feature that they get better if enemies are highlighted by Bio Tracker, but unfortunately its not always feasable, and without the bio-ping these two suck major A, which makes them unreliable.
- Full Auto - just crap. Its a crowd control turret that's all about staggering enemies, rather than killing them... Which is, of course, redudant when you have turrets that can just nuke enemies anyway. Killing the enemy is the ultimate crowd control, after all. There's like 1-2 fringes cases where it could prove useful, but like...
Basically: just bring burst and forget about it. Everything else for fun factor, like watching your sniper sentry cap a sleeper across a very big room.
junior latch
I do think the shotgun sentry works decently well, if you understand it and the game
sharp owl
thats lil bit better 
wispy bluff
Would increasing full auto's ammo pool by like 50% save it?
sharp owl
killing enemies is lot better than holding them off for extra secs
wispy bluff
Make it a long term survivor who just wins over time by saving tool for everyone else
junior latch
killing enemies is lot better than holding them off for extra secs
Not necessarily
it just needs to actually stop stuff
cough shotgun stagger sentry
wispy bluff
Basically.
sharp owl
so more staggering pellets?
wispy bluff
There's a problem with core design in there
The stupid thing picks a target and focuses it until its dead
Ah yes, thanks for staggering that one shooter while 20 sleepers run past you
It doesn't need the accuracy, it should just spit out a wall of rubber
Imho the fucking thing shouldn't even aim!
sharp owl
might as well bring auto pp
wispy bluff
Make it just go left and right while spraying innacurately
sharp owl
what bout explosive munitions
wispy bluff
Oh, most certainly
That would be an even better buff than penetration
But devs are scared of AoE
sharp owl
they made hel shotgun deliberately
wispy bluff
Imho: nerf accuracy until it sprays like TF2 Heavy's Minigun and give it like +1 pen
Bam, actually does something
And of course maybe give it like +20% more ammo, just to be sure
hollow merlin
alt r6 will change things trust
sharp owl
alt r6 added scatter gun
where rest of patch notes
wispy bluff
If they wanted a crowd control sentry - they could go extra funny and make a cfoam sentry
Semi-sniper like abomination that precision shoots large presurized cfoam blobs at enemies of choice insta-freezing them.
A line of code that counts frozen enemies as ineligible for aiming and bam - you got the greatest crowd control / slow down sentry
sharp owl
that one line of code might just break the rest of the stuff
wispy bluff
TF2 Engineer sentry remains the greatest sentry in all of gaming
junior latch
Imho: nerf accuracy until it sprays like TF2 Heavy's Minigun and give it like +1...
its accuracy is already not good
wraith marsh
someone hasnt played ror2 engineer
desert ocean
They ever going to fix the bots ?
sharp owl
They ever going to fix the bots ?
a 0.01% chance to fix
desert ocean
Oh nice lol
sharp owl
whats your issue 🤔
wispy bluff
They ever going to fix the bots ?
If it hasn't happened in... 6 major updates now - chances they will do it in the future are miniscule.
As far as we are concerned - bot behavior is entirely intentional, minus them not going into the scans sometimes. But even modders couldn't fix that, so...
final glen
ok wtf are you suppose to do on R7D2 after first bio scan?
frozen solar
<@&408548765599793173> can i get one mod in voice chat 20 please
rose nova
if u have a problem u can report it to @foggy plank
frozen solar
right tnxx
rose nova
ok wtf are you suppose to do on R7D2 after first bio scan?
um what part? like after the blood door?
wispy bluff
ok wtf are you suppose to do on R7D2 after first bio scan?
The first door that starts the alarm?
Team splits.
final glen
yes
wispy bluff
2-3 players entrench and fight incoming hordes.
You got supplies for days.
1-2 guys (optionally 1, if he's good at stealth) goes into one of the side rooms in attempt to find... I forgot what.
Basically there are series of doors that you need to open. They require either a key or a terminal commands or something, i don't remember.
rose nova
ok so, the door opens, u go for blood door, and u enter the zone
there theres a terminal, u need to look for it
wispy bluff
1 stealthy guy attempts to find ways to open the door, the rest of the team hold the horde.
rose nova
itll say what zone to go for the password
leaden beacon
locked terminal, then cell search
rose nova
u sneak through that zone and u get it
wispy bluff
And its just that for like... 25 minutes.
Its a pretty short level, but its hooooooooot
leaden beacon
|| In R7D2 the First section determines chargers vs shadows for rest of waves
Second section determines if you fight mother or tank ||
final glen
ok doing with bots is a fever dream
final glen
ok wtf game...
wispy bluff
Bots are A, B and some Cs only
Once you start hitting Ds - bots go into the trashcan
leaden beacon
There's like 4 tanks or something
only if you wake em up
wispy bluff
Either you find yourself a proper squad or... Well, you know.
leaden beacon
1 tank is forced auto spawn
rose nova
the rest u dont, really need to fight
leaden beacon
Also technically shouldn't we talk about this in #gtfo-spoiler-chat lol
wispy bluff
Ideally
leaden beacon
lemme just quickly spoiler some comments......
rose nova
i mean is spoils if u see a newie like on here but its a level thats been out for a while
so if u only see like pro people in chat then it, doesnt matter a whole lot
leaden beacon
tru
junior latch
Also its 2 forced spawns if you open that side
leaden beacon
2?
junior latch
and its one of those levels where its clearly obvious that the bots werent designed to replace teammates
final glen
its kinda the annoying part of this game, there which missions you get to play in RNG based on LFG
little ridge
I agree with the frustration on playing with 100% randos being usually harder than just having a fixed group of people that know what they're doing
But yeah kinda what Darkeva says
unreal breach
@rose nova hope you're having a good day
wispy bluff
It is what it is...
You just suck it up and sit in LFG. Part of the game, really.
rose nova
<@437056003012427782> hope you're having a good day
same for chu !!
wispy bluff
Which is one of the reasons i spend more time in chats than actually playing the game. I wouldn't mind just casually jumping in L4D style where 4 silent protagonists just steam role monsters on a common brain wave, but the entire LFG shtick feels like a job.
unreal breach
same for chu !!
I am thanks
little ridge
Which is one of the reasons i spend more time in chats than actually playing the...
I hate to sound like the bad guy but one correction, it's steamroll not steam role
final glen
I bought this game bout year ago and I only have 20 hours played
cause whenether I decide to launch it , rarely find people who want to run same expedition
manic fossil
I bought this game bout year ago and I only have 20 hours played
Are you looking for a committed group that plays 2x a week?
4hr sessions
final glen
that is alot of free time to have xd
manic fossil
No such thing as free time.
little ridge
cause whenether I decide to launch it , rarely find people who want to run same...
Which maps are you stuck on, out of curiosity?
final glen
im on R7D2 atm
final glen
never even started them
little ridge
do it, if you did r7d1 main only with vanilla bots you can very probably do all r1, most r2 aside from r2d2 (doable) and r2e1, all r3 aside from r3d1, and maybe all mains in r4 aside from r4e1
That's a good bunch of content
Well it beats being just stuck on r7d2
rough robin
|| In R7D2 the First section determines chargers vs shadows for rest of waves
S...
wait REALLY? that level would've been so much easier with shadows holy shit
leaden beacon
Yes
wispy bluff
wait REALLY? that level would've been so much easier with shadows holy shit
Would it? Would it really?
rough robin
absolutely
wispy bluff
Up to prefference i suppose
rough robin
shadows are slow stupid and weak
rough robin
slower, less health, weak head
rough robin
easy to biotrack when they're all coming one way too
leaden beacon
They dont have less hp
junior latch
wait REALLY? that level would've been so much easier with shadows holy shit
You only ever got chargers :0?
rough robin
They dont have less hp
chargers have 30 shadows have 20
wispy bluff
The level probably got nerfed ever since HEL Rifle got introduced
leaden beacon
Oh you meant vs chargers
rough robin
You only ever got chargers :0?
I only ever played AWOL like 3 times but it was always chargers
wispy bluff
There is a stupid chokepoint in the first area
rough robin
was ROUGH as a semi-new player
junior latch
damn unlucky
but tbh, its mostly shadow giants vs bbcs (where id still rather have shadow giants)
junior latch
I only ever played AWOL like 3 times but it was always chargers
Gotta play it again 👀
rough robin
i might, that was a really fun level
im always the one to go finding shit so it was really great when I turned a corner into a broodmother for the first time
staring at the mf like 👁️_👁️
junior latch
I feel that xD
Had that too
Especially after i hadnt actually seen one before LOL
little ridge
I feel that xD
Had that too
Especially after i hadnt actually seen one before L...
wait
you never saw ||a mother|| before r7d2?
junior latch
Pmom
final glen
wait
neither have I, mby it spawned but ussually you always have one person in pub games who thinks that every run needs to be a speed run contention
so they either bring meta load outs and micro everything to a point there it becomes a cake walk xd
errant tulip
E
sharp owl
I just realized there's actually 3 of the cover art masks in the game already I didn't even realize convex falcon was one of them
hidden grove
Hey everyone, just joined, relatively new to the game, looking for people to show me the ropes!
foggy plankBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
rose nova
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and i doubt u havent- but just in case, do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
hidden grove
I did the tutorial, I’m not bad at the game just don’t have a lot of pc friends. Consol gamer my whole life n just built an overkill rig for Tarkov and gtfo lol just looking for people to play with
rose nova
yeh fairs, hope u can find some funky people to play with :3
hidden grove
Thank you thank you 🙏
manic fossil
Is something wrong with my game?
I click and hold initiate cage drop and nothing happens
shut vapor
Anyone else in the lobby?
pine root
Is something wrong with my game?
dead lobby
manic fossil
What is that?
raw shard
Is something wrong with my game?
Make new lobby
just leave expedition and create a new one and it should work
pine root
^^^^
manic fossil
ah thanks. thats odd
shut vapor
uninstall the game*
raw shard
it happens from time to time, if you disconnect or reconnect bots too fast it sometimes breaks the lobby lmao
manic fossil
This is scuffed. All the lobbies are broken
shut vapor
restart game?
burnt flume
maybe try restart steam
shut vapor
restart pc
raw shard
try restarting your local power grid
shut vapor
restart the economy
rough robin
restart the reactor
manic fossil
I click and hold initiate cage drop and it doesnt work
tardy quest
is bioscan speed buff the tracker or buff opening doors
rough robin
door scans
shut vapor
<:PirateSimon:621817514388750377>
tardy quest
which one??
shut vapor
Scans
neon torrent
Yo I am so confused, so we have been doing ALT:// runs, but like, when I load the game I ONLY see these? Should we be doing them? is there a way to play the original version, if someone wouldn't mind explaining what these ALT versions are and why the original ones can't be accessed anymore?
rose nova
soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 6
tardy quest
ALT:// rundowns are remade rundowns, in the past the devs dissasembled the assets for the first ones to make the new ones and because of how unity assets worked it was cheaper to take the old ones offline and just change the base assets
rose nova
thats why u only see the alts, and yeh u can play those here
essentially the rule is for older versions of the game, which are innaccesible w/o mods or file movement n stuff
neon torrent
That makes a lot of sense, so this is just their way of leaving content available to play really?
Which is nice, I assume had we joined before the ALT maps were in, we would of been stuck with whatever rundown was currently available.
rose nova
yeh pretty much, but now all of em r open
shut vapor
thats why u only see the alts, and yeh u can play those here
essentially the rul...
Not mods >:C
rose nova
D:
raw shard
Yeah old versions are just old versions, not mods
neon torrent
yeh pretty much, but now all of em r open
Sweet that makes a lot of sense.
Last question in general, read a few posts online to try and understand but in R2C1 we noticed that the uplink mechanics work differently to the normal horde mechanics (spawn in rooms 2 away), looks like the uplink has a caveat (or feature 😮 ) that makes it so hordes can ONLY spawn in the same area as the uplink terminal, as we did it where 2 guys stayed at the terminal, 2 guys ran ahead to the security door (area 206) and they freakin' spawned between us.
raw shard
Uplinks always spawn in the same zone as you
neon torrent
Is there a "guide" to different spawning mechanics between the different things by chance?
raw shard
It's only really uplinks that differ
neon torrent
Just because a 1.5 hour run down the drain because of something stupid, is kinda annoying 🤣
raw shard
same spawn mechanics, but just only in the zone
neon torrent
(Of course we like the annoying, but this was just mean)
rose nova
usually in uplinks the best thing is stayin near the person in the terminal to defend em in cause of anythin happenin
cause if they go down then another person has to jump in
and thats 2 defenses only for em then
neon torrent
usually in uplinks the best thing is stayin near the person in the terminal to d...
Yeah I mean this makes sense if we knew about the uplink issue, we had terminals at the "at the time" only entry point 🤣 so yeah, lesson learned I guess.
shut vapor
cause if they go down then another person has to jump in
This will result in many failed attempts on R4C1 Secondary and R5C1 secondary
rose nova
:3
but well yeah thats pretty much only time it happens, and when the alarm doesnt have space to be two rooms away, but that only happens when it is right at the beginning i think
which then they spawn from the place u dropped in
and also some, one two alarms where they spawn one room closer, but they are so far and forth u can always assume is two rooms away
neon torrent
Yeah we found that out already, I guess this one was more of a kick in the teeth, as so far, any/all uplinks we have done have never been in a position where this could happen.
raw shard
There is one scan in the game that differs from the rule and it's the Class IV Diminished on R7B1
They spawn one room away
rose nova
ah that alarm shouldnt have the M on there
M is for mixed, which means every type of scan can appear
raw shard
Mixed
rose nova
but in that case its just, normal scans
neon torrent
Because it says M = mixed, but like ALL our scans so far are usually "various scan types" if M = mixed, then why is this the FIRST time we have ever encountered it
Every scan we have had so far is a collection of "cluster", "full team", "split (the two one)" and then "single (not full team)".
raw shard
Mixed usually means you have things like clusters and S scans mixed in
rose nova
ah no, team scans, big red scans and clusters of four are normal
those, two they mentioned come in later
u will see em
no spoils
:]
neon torrent
Right so M means there are "extra" scans that can appear? oddly even though it said a class V M alarm, it was still "normal"
thick temple
yes, yes it is weird
shut vapor
Epic embed fail
neon torrent
Probs
rose nova
Right so M means there are "extra" scans that can appear? oddly even though it s...
no yeah is bugged, thats why i said it ksmdm
shouldnt have that thing
but well u will see real M laters C:
neon torrent
Oh joy, more to look forward to 🤣
This game is really the equivalent of just punching yourself repeatedly 🤣
thick temple
i mean you're only on rundown 2, it should be expected that there's more to look forward to :p
neon torrent
I wouldn't say "look forward to", too strong.
I already looked at the wiki and accidently saw some "other" enemy types, that I am not a fan of.
raw shard
I mean there's only like 3 different enemy types anyway
thick temple
except for the minibosses
neon torrent
I mean sure, there are 3 types, but also variations, ||invisible||, etc.
neon torrent
the foop does qwq mean
thick temple
yeah avoiding spoilers is hard when looking at the wiki, but the wiki is nice to get the information you're looking for though
it's a face
neon torrent
Either I am too old, or not cool enough 😢
shut vapor
im an anomaly
raw shard
it's a sticker
thick temple
discord sticker
raw shard
neon torrent
dafuq
shut vapor
rose nova
.t modding
foggy plankBOT
While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)
shut vapor
Unofficial
rose nova
:]
rundowns n weapons n stuff
but i wouldnt recommend gettin to those until u have more of the game
they, use everything it has, and more
raw shard
Come join the modding server if you wanna know more
neon torrent
Unofficial
I am yet to find a game that offers a modding API specifically so 
rose nova
also most of em are, extremely hard too
thick temple
idk the modding server is kinda cringe at times ngl
shut vapor
I am yet to find a game that offers a modding API specifically so <:ShrugIT:9843...
Steam workshop moment
thick temple
and by at times i mean most of the time
shut vapor
What the FUCK is real modding
neon torrent
What the FUCK is real modding
Doing it when they DON'T want you to do it 🤣
shut vapor
Modding = modifying the game. Doesn't matter who wants you to
neon torrent
I am aware, I am messing
shut vapor
NO!
neon torrent
YES!
shut vapor
I HATE you now :(
neon torrent
That's fair, I can live with that.
shut vapor
and I hate project thermonuclear :D
neon torrent
Hmmm
neon torrent
and I hate project thermonuclear :D
Why
shut vapor
I don't like the guy who made it
neon torrent
I mean... sure?
shut vapor
neon torrent
That is a masterpiece
shut vapor
fr
neon torrent
Should put that into midjourney and see what happens 🤣
thick temple
I don't like the guy who made it
how i feel about chrysalis
shut vapor
raw shard
shut vapor
how i feel about chrysalis
you should play hit rundown Scouts
thick temple
i have actually
raw shard
I hate the guy who made that
shut vapor
You should play it with me. I'm a difficulty modifier that makes everything 2x harder
thick temple
play it wit gtfr, the true experience of all time
analog flicker
livid gulch
GTFO sex mod
unreal crystal
and I hate project thermonuclear :D
BUT LORE LOCKED RESOURCE ZONES!
burnt flume
every masterpiece (RESIST) has its poor imitations (PT)
thick temple
every masterpiece (RESIST) has its poor imitations (PT)
what even is resist, it's not on thunderstore
i've never even heard of it before
sharp owl
what even is resist, it's not on thunderstore
i've never even heard of it before
R8 codename
thick temple
wow sounds super duper cool then really sad i don't know who made it and thus can never experience this clearly better than anything else creation
quartz cape
sucks for you
burnt flume
unfortunate
rose nova
dies
thick temple
sure am super sad that i am disallowed from playing this i n c r e d i b l e mod
quartz cape
maybe be less cringe, and she'll let you play
thick temple
i mean yeah i'm cringe but you make it sound like you've played which would make your sentence very contradictory
quartz cape
perhaps, but I dont make the rules
torpid rose
Gerz did u get cs2 beta key
manic fossil
Oh damn there's gtfo mods?
rose nova
yeh :3
timber tinsel
I died at extraction. 😦
rose nova
qwq noooo
timber tinsel
It was R2D1. I just went in to see what D was like~
rose nova
damnnn
yeah thats such a, long level to do ksmksksmd but the endin is fun
tho complicated
timber tinsel
I finally completed R2C1 tonight with 3 others! So I wanted to take a peek at a D level! #BotsAreStillEvil
latent spruce
does anyone play this game anymore?
sharp owl
Many
sharp owl
I finally completed R2C1 tonight with 3 others! So I wanted to take a peek at a ...
Good luck
simple locust
does anyone play this game anymore?
I'll say it should be more
pine root
had a r1a1 clear, with the hsu in area D instead of E, laying sideways 🙃
Nice when you grinding for a b hsu
analog flicker
had a r1a1 clear, with the hsu in area D instead of E, laying sideways 🙃
imean it's most commonly in E. but not guaranteed.
hollow merlin
Yeah, I thought it was always in E, so finding it elsewhere felt wack as hell
timber tinsel
I was there!
little ridge
imean it's most commonly in E. but not guaranteed.
I think there's 4 spawns in E, 2 in D and 1 in B
Surely there's someone that can confirm
junior latch
4 E, 2 D, 2 C and 2 B
little ridge
4 E, 2 D, 2 C and 2 B
it can be in C?
junior latch
yes
little ridge
Wait C is the room on the right after entering
the one with a staircase that leads in E?
junior latch
yes
little ridge
What the heck I never had it there
not that I can remember
and I've nearly 100 clears on R1A1
do they have the same weight?
junior latch
its a bit over 1% chance for C
same for B btw
little ridge
Well that kind of explains why
I've had B like 4-5 times and usually get E, never had C
junior latch
now theres the reason why logs are used 
little ridge
I dont get why the difference in weight to be honest
I get that C,D,B are easier than E
junior latch
its end weighted
little ridge
its end weighted
which means?
junior latch
the higher letters get a higher chance
which is done to make you actually explore the rooms
copper grail
I just got this game completely fresh is it better to go in blind or watch a "before you play" type video?
mint light
I just got this game completely fresh is it better to go in blind or watch a "be...
Blind, most before you play video's lie in your face
copper grail
Ahah okay, thank you
junior latch
Ahah okay, thank you
once you are a bit into it i would recommend watching Professor Scalers "new" beginner guides
wispy bluff
I just got this game completely fresh is it better to go in blind or watch a "be...
Blind is probably best. Do the TRAINING tutorial level, then try R1A1 either with bots or #lfg-beginners . The rest you will learn as you go on.
Probably the only thing that the game does not explain well (or rather: at all) is that enemies take up to x2 damage if attacked from behind - true for both melee and guns, but not turrets.
copper grail
Thank you peeps
sharp owl
I just got this game completely fresh is it better to go in blind or watch a "be...
If you go blind
You will have amazing experiences in this game
shut vapor
Go hunt down the enemies then
little ridge
R2D1 suffering
I think I lost half my runs to spitter sound bug
true pilot
i lost extract cause of sound bug once
wispy bluff
What was R2D1 again?
D2 was the reactor one, then wtf was D1...
Power cluster, apparently.
Is that the one where you have to dive in deep caves full of green to acquire some cells?
Or am i confusing it with R1 one?
Yep, that is the one
For some reasons i thought that was an R1 level... Or does R1 has the same level?
gusty burrow
No infection in R1, definitely not an R1 level
wispy bluff
Reactor shutdown.
I literally helped someone beat that like a month ago
I just... Whatever. This shit just does not stay in my memory.
rose nova
damn how do u not know all and every single one of the levels in gtfo smh my head
u should also know the manufacturers names and every company involved in garganta
wispy bluff
Don't even get me started un R3. I don't remember anything from that rundown, except for - i think - A3 was a reactor that skill checked my bot run.
junior latch
damn how do u not know all and every single one of the levels in gtfo smh my hea...
honestly, artek seems to have more levels he doesnt rly remember vs ones he remembers
junior latch
no one has to have knowledge of all maps and every room of every map
rose nova
no im jokin its fine ksmdkm
junior latch
but i feel like most levels are unique enough
R1
A1 - bland, but first level and the shortest one
B1 - choose your path
B2 - shooter only stealth
C1 - long ass boring reactor
C2 - charger intro
D1 - shadow intro (also the base line for r5d1)
theres definetly stuff that you have to replay like 2-3 times to have it down
like R2B3, R2B2 or smth like R3B1
rose nova
r3b1 is the one level i forget the most, even tho it, took me more tries than r3b2
dunno what thats supposed to be
glacial shard
hey
grizzled bison
nothing i do is cheap...
glacial shard
I got a question, how long is average run?
junior latch
I got a question, how long is average run?
depends on the tier and rundown
Generally you can expext 45-90 minutes
With some going lower/higher
but stuff can be done a lot quicker or a lot slower depending on playstyle
glacial shard
saw someone take 6 hours and almost made me remove the game from wishlist
mint light
I got a question, how long is average run?
When you start out average is 1 - 1.5. When you play like you should (the whole team) it averages to 30 -45
With some outliers
rose nova
rulé 7
had to sorry :]
junior latch
saw someone take 6 hours and almost made me remove the game from wishlist
That is a heavy issue on them
junior latch
*rulé 7*
had to sorry :]
?
rose nova
cause their name is rulE
mint light
saw someone take 6 hours and almost made me remove the game from wishlist
Yes those are .... special people. I saw an 8 hour run on a 35 min mission
rose nova
so i like to think is rulÉ 7
mint light
cause their name is rulE
Nah admins like to play with my name
rose nova
:3
glacial shard
how hard is to get drip?
mint light
how hard is to get drip?
One drop for every first clear
so not hard until it becomes hard
glacial shard
First clear? oh no
junior latch
saw someone take 6 hours and almost made me remove the game from wishlist
Longer levels are usually deeper (the harder levels), but youll only play them once youve gotten better and thus quicker
2 hours is generally the maximum. Theres some rare exceptions where it can take 2 1/2 if you decide to play super safe with no prior knowledge
Ive had … 6 2 to 2 1/2 hour clears (for first clears) in all the runs ive done
glacial shard
Best melee for a beginner?
mint light
First clear? oh no
Yep you want the drip? you git gud. Edit: or get carried
junior latch
Hammer, best melee generally
rose nova
looks back
junior latch
Best melee for a beginner?
If ya wanna check out the game theres 2 options to approach it
- go blind and only ask when rly stuck
- check out stuff here carefully and watch some of „professor scaler“ guides on youtube (beginner guides)
junior latch
_looks back_
Trips*
rose nova
dies
quartz cape
Best melee for a beginner?
its hammer
rose nova
in case u want the spoils of melee, here
||hammer is really really flexible, good dmg n stuff, very nice stagger, very cool||
||knife is only for smol enemies, is very fast and requires headshots but is cool in combat n such||
||bat is a goblin dont @ me||
||and spear is slowish, cant run with it, requires headshots, uses stamina for shovin unlike any other melee, its only real advantage is range and being ok for learnin to stealth, but the other three are better||
glacial shard
Scaler's guides are so old that I saw 4 hammers in melee
mint light
Scaler's guides are so old that I saw 4 hammers in melee
still meta
junior latch
Scaler's guides are so old that I saw 4 hammers in melee
Thats the old versions of those guides
glacial shard
ye 3 yo video
junior latch
if you search professor scaler beginner guide
rose nova
guude :3
junior latch
a 1 year old one shows up
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rose nova
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
latent palm
I didn't know weapons are Seasonal
more like
rose nova
they were only seasonal in the past
latent palm
rundown specific
rose nova
and they came back every once in a while
glacial shard
and Rundown sounds like seasons
rose nova
yeah kinda
glacial shard
I think it's a bad idea to time lock guns
glacial shard
why is there a rule to not show people how previous Rundowns worked?
analog flicker
and I've nearly 100 clears on R1A1
It's funny since you have more clears than I do.
Then again I'm 50 or so
junior latch
@glacial shard that was the old system
analog flicker
latent palm
It's funny since you have more clears than I do.
analog flicker
why is there a rule to not show people how previous Rundowns worked?
It's a rule to Not play OG Rundowns
rose nova
soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 6
latent palm
at work solace?
analog flicker
at work solace?
At Home
glacial shard
weirdest rule I heard of
analog flicker
weirdest rule I heard of
Og rundowns is like down patching the game essentially and they don't like that.
glacial shard
Hmm anyway to make the game easier?
last parrot
Hmm anyway to make the game easier?
practice
analog flicker
ALTs in general are easier to be fair.
glacial shard
this feels as if From Software made a multilayer game and set difficulty to Nightmare for levels 1
analog flicker
R1 is still the most simple/easiest one. But I don't recall specifics that make people consider it "buffed"
glacial shard
cause screw normal learning curves right?
analog flicker
GTFO ngl has almost never had a "Normal" learning curve
latent palm
Gotta do some stuff but I'll be on later
well
junior latch
cause screw normal learning curves right?
Huh? Whyd you say that
glacial shard
That's what's up with games without a difficulty slider
glacial shard
hard for the sake of being hard
junior latch
theres some good options in games to balance difficulty (see hades)
latent palm
hard for the sake of being hard
GTFO having a difficulty slider?
analog flicker
That's what's up with games without a difficulty slider
Why do you think they added Optional objectives.
junior latch
hard for the sake of being hard
Thats what a game thats based on being challenging is 
latent palm
junior latch
Why do you think they added Optional objectives.
Also that
analog flicker
(Tbf though. Optionals don't even happen until R4)
glacial shard
so don't do optional objectives?
latent palm
analog flicker
analog flicker
Optionals aren't even required to progress like OG
glacial shard
yeah but do they make the game easier or not worth it?
junior latch
harder
not easier
well most of them
theres a select few that do make things easier in return for doing more
analog flicker
R6C3 arguably harder or easier main only vs PE depending who you ask. (It essentially tests your patience)
glacial shard
inventory limit? So I can grab anything my hands can reach
junior latch
1 consumables, 1 ressource pack
glacial shard
I guess the backpack is there to look nice
analog flicker
Backpacks are cosmetic
junior latch
The backpacks are for the huge battery the flashlight needs
analog flicker
Cosmetics giving buffs/equipment carry amounts would be unbalanced and everyone would just go for a certain one.
This wasn't even a feature they intended initially
latent palm
i mean
the backpacks
are your equipment hanger
and your drinks and food (maybe) in them
glacial shard
We don't even eat
analog flicker
HSU moment
junior latch
gigantic flashlight battery
latent palm
We don't even eat
survival backpacks labled names
glacial shard
what's the point of HSU?
latent palm
what's the point of HSU?
hydrostasis
junior latch
Hydro stasis
analog flicker
what's the point of HSU?
Quite a few lore/other implications
latent palm
a death bed
glacial shard
can't we just stay in normal prison cells?
analog flicker
I'm too lazy to explain all of it
latent palm
but you can be pull back to life on this death bed
junior latch
can't we just stay in normal prison cells?
We arent exactly „prisoners“
latent palm
We arent exactly „prisoners“
^
glacial shard
3/4 player characters are mass killers
analog flicker
Idk about Alt. But didn't Hackett volunteer for the "legion" program specifically?
latent palm
3/4 player characters are mass killers
heh
glacial shard
we definitely are prisoners
latent palm
we are operators
junior latch
3/4 player characters are mass killers
Not rly lol
latent palm
when we are designated
latent palm
our serial numbers and alias
junior latch
another was a doctor that did fucked up stuff
glacial shard
one killed over 20 people, one experimented/killed people, one killed 18 people and one blackmailed wrong guy
latent palm
1 is a doktor
latent palm
2 is a soldier folowing orders
junior latch
we arent in a prison prison
analog flicker
One is a religious zealot
latent palm
we call ourselves prisoners
cause we feel trapped doing the same dirty work for the warden everytime
glacial shard
we are held like 24/7 in stasis as if we had killed 5000 people or something
we don't even eat or sleep
junior latch
thats what stasis is for
analog flicker
tbh you're better off seeking #gtfo-lore if you want all the specifics on how HSUs work and what they were meant for
latent palm
who knows
GTFO is a very vaugely build story
one can speculate Schaffer breakin a tanks ankles for a very long time before cutting loose from its chase
latent palm
its real
analog flicker
Compared it to darkwood
latent palm
on a voice log
Schaffer did infact escaped a tank chase
but im just jking about it being him juking it
analog flicker
I didn't say that part specifically but your theory on HSUs for Schaeffer
latent palm
i mean for all i could say he could have fainted and crawled into a safe place
or he found a special crafted mask for the ordeal of that sort
latent palm
did i?
analog flicker
Even though Schaeffer is scared and etc of needing to go back into a HSU in R6CX
latent palm
i mean its hard enough to find 1 laying around
analog flicker
i mean its hard enough to find 1 laying around
Cap
latent palm
that includes how to even be dropped out
analog flicker
Tbf you did make that strange theory back then
latent palm
analog flicker
Had me questioning a lot of things
latent palm
Had me questioning a lot of things
if it like darkwood
then its just holes into more holes
let that theory die i guess
sharp owl
One is a religious zealot
beheading intensifies
glacial shard
what enemy I can't stealth kill with the hammer?
sharp owl
giant chargers, giant shadows, charger scout, moms, tanks,
glacial shard
Moms?
pine root
giant chargers, giant shadows, charger scout, moms, tanks,
Tank p mom?
assuming no foam assuming you have more than one person
Charger giant and Shadow giant are very humanly possible as one no scream
earnest forge
Realistically though, anything bigger than a Giant is quite tough to kill completely stealthily
pine root
Realistically though, anything bigger than a Giant is quite tough to kill comple...
I mean charger giant is free. Shadow giant is hard without scream cancel
Big shooter imo is the hardest
sharp owl
i forget that those exist
wicked solstice
I mean charger giant is free. Shadow giant is hard without scream cancel
Big charger kills scare the shit out of me
Because of how far they stagger
Chickens I just limb break tbh
junior latch
giant chargers, giant shadows, charger scout, moms, tanks,
eh
pine root
If you are worries just stand where they used to stand then they will melee or start scream and you can cancel. @wicked solstice it is funny funny charger desync
wicked solstice
i mean i’m worried about melee lol
Also I’ve seen them stay at the staggered position
junior latch
BBCs and shadow giants are obviously harder to solo melee, but still possible (hybrid versions suck ass for shadow giants tho)
Charger scouts need help (cfoam, other player, booster, iix syringe)
mom is only doable with a team
pine root
Chickens I just limb break tbh
The problem is solo this has issues and you have chance to miss scream
wicked solstice
wait really?
pine root
Yeah
wicked solstice
Chicken is the easiest time for me
Wack
ohhhhh wait lol I’m thinking of my mod with spear
XD
mb
pine root
XD
wraith marsh
you also just dont get enough damage in
wispy bluff
@wicked solstice Didn't remnant released already?
wicked solstice
XD
Yeah spear actually just OHKO’s chickens on occiput lol
In occlusion
Because they have a x4 occi instead of x3
pine root
Yeah spear actually just OHKO’s chickens on occiput lol
Yeah in main you can do half then the issue is you could get instant scream or projectile. If you get projectile you can just double occi then your done
wicked solstice
More reason to bring spear ig
junior latch
ah yes, to suffer more
pine root
If it screams you can have issue you need to play for that scream stagger but you have to do it with light stagger cause you don’t charge enough to break limb no boosters
That means you will probs have to light stagger it in the head like 2-3 more times cause the cycle repeats unless you know you got scream Xd
wicked solstice
yeah. Honestly I’m super happy with how my spear turned out
I was worried ab giving it that much damage
But it seems like it’s actually paying off for stealth missions
And not overpowering hammer
pine root
I was worried ab giving it that much damage
How much does it have?
wicked solstice
25 lol
pine root
1.3 head?
wicked solstice
Does like 90+ to a giant occi
wispy bluff
Perfectly reasonable
wicked solstice
Yeah
wispy bluff
Da bigger knife
pine root
No
wicked solstice
Well right, no
pine root
It scales harder with those numbers
wicked solstice
It has the reach tbf
So it could actually be useful against like, normal giants
Wait does it 1 shot hybrids?
pine root
2 —- 25 in 2 is much better than 2 - 18 in 1.7
pine root
Wait does it 1 shot hybrids?
Yeah
wicked solstice
No
wraith marsh
hybrids same hp profile as big shooter
pine root
Then it doesn’t one tap big shooter
wicked solstice
Oh wait do big shooters have 150hp?
wraith marsh
yes
pine root
Hybrid is 4x occi, 25x4x1.3 is 130
But this fixes the shooter stealth all the same
It removes the issue of instant scream cause you just kill it
wicked solstice
Right yeah because someone else will also be smacking it
pine root
Na you get charge off solo
wicked solstice
Oh yeah that too
Honestly I’ve taken Occ spear and had fun with it, especially just decking giants
pine root
@wraith marsh can we do a p mom stealth demonstration
pine root
Where we have 3 players silent shooting then host as c foam person
wraith marsh
god
junior latch
It also one shots non charger scouts in the back
buff it further, 30 base dmg 
wicked solstice
No
junior latch
yes 
wicked solstice
Not letting it OHKO Cscout
pine root
Not letting it OHKO Cscout
Based
Tbh spear doesn’t need that much but it is much better on that dmg profile
Sorry chill same convo again
junior latch
popping mom tumors is also a fun buff with that
wicked solstice
Oh does it?
pine root
Yeah
pine root
It doesn’t help for the mom stealth
junior latch
it also 2 taps tank tumors (but that doesnt rly work out well)
wraith marsh
imagine if boss enemies also staggered after a specific amount of tumor breaks
pine root
Chase you want the x5 stagger
junior latch
would need 2 hammer iirc
pine root
Ummm sure that would probs work
wicked solstice
Hmm yeah and you can’t overdamage
pine root
If hammer first and gets in dmged
junior latch
you can if client and good timing (but yea unlikely)
wicked solstice
Wait just how much does my spear do to a tumor
pine root
I think it works it is way tighter than just two hammers
junior latch
@pine root youd start with spear for the safe 2 pops tho no? Then follow up with hammer stagger 
wicked solstice
Oh wait yeah it does 125 without the precision bonus XD
could you just alternate spear hits every 0.5 seconds?
junior latch
tbf 4 spears would break mom in 2 seconds
pine root
<@325636095067029507> youd start with spear for the safe 2 pops tho no? Then fol...
I think you need max charger on hammer twice if hammer hits first it gets more time to charger for the seconds stagger which should kill
That was much ideas
wicked solstice
It’s even safer because you don’t need a full charge for max damage either
junior latch
4 insta breaks on bubbles
then repeat
pine root
Oh wait yeah it does 125 without the precision bonus XD
Does it do exactly 125
Or does it do more
pine root
Then it does 126
wicked solstice
Yeah
pine root
Funny mom bug
pine root
but true, you can do spear with like 80 charge or smth
Yeah idk how it would work
wicked solstice
Mmmm
wicked solstice
Yeah lmao i gotta try this now
pine root
Xd
junior latch
hammer stagger is just that insane
pine root
Yeah lmao i gotta try this now
Does spear still have 1.0 stagger muilt
wicked solstice
Yeah
pine root
Well you can’t get first stagger then
wicked solstice
mmm
junior latch
2x stagger spear with 25 dmg will solo stealth mom
pine root
you need a second hammer or like 1.3 stagger
junior latch
well, with 4 spears
wicked solstice
Gotta see how that interacts with other enemies
pine root
well, with 4 spears
Ohhhh
junior latch
Gotta see how that interacts with other enemies
it doesnt rly
pine root
I see
junior latch
well, it will stagger like hammer on giants body hits (no limbbreak) from the front
pine root
Gotta see how that interacts with other enemies
It gives spear better body shot on giants
junior latch
it doesnt change anything from the back or for smalls/chargers/snatcher
pine root
Besides making it stagger slightly faster
But who plays for light tap staggers with spear
Omg that sounds awful
wraith marsh
2x stagger spear with 25 dmg will solo stealth mom
I dont think it would still
itd be close tho
well actually maybe not
id like to see that though, it sounds funny asf
pine root
I dont think it would still
we could just give hammer 1.3 head shot
wraith marsh
ngl
wraith marsh
im surprised they havent given anything a limb damage multiplier
not actually boosting the damage, but like stagger multi
for limb hp
earnest forge
Bat could become a more specialized melee, to be honest
earnest forge
It is currently in a weird spot, probably the least picked melee overall
pine root
bring it back to 1.0
lets us suffer
tbh it being at 3 is a sin being at 5 someone was smoking the best crack
earnest forge
The stagger on it is really nice, but very rarely do you see players run it
pine root
stagger 1.0 means in cant light stagger giants to the front 0.0
green rivet
Lame convo
pine root
fuck you
green rivet
I’m ready for more sector 11
junior latch
It is currently in a weird spot, probably the least picked melee overall
id argue thats heavily influenced by spear being kind of a trap for beginners
green rivet
Why does everyone gravitate toward spear
wraith marsh
I still highly advocate for ruining this game for yourself
green rivet
Misinformation
wraith marsh
just seeing what is possible from this games gameplay
I feel like it would help a lot of ppl
rose nova
id argue thats heavily influenced by spear being kind of a trap for beginners
spear is eatin the bat fandom qwq
earnest forge
To be honest, in the game setting, getting a bit of distance between you and whatever monstrosities are in the Complex can feel alluring :)
earnest forge
This way at least, they can switch to hammer or knife later and say "wow, this charge-up time is so fast !! and I can run while charging ???"
pine root
just seeing what is possible from this games gameplay
they see me in a cheese spot for 10 hours until i get shooter bug and can max out the surge
pine root
it is peek gtfo
burnt flume
watching a door bug solo
hey wait a minute...
pine root
This way at least, they can switch to hammer or knife later and say "wow, this c...
XD XD
pine root
chill maybe the 1/4 retention rate is because everyone picks a different melee and hammer players stay
analog flicker
wraith marsh
only the strongest survive
earnest forge
"You chose... Poorly"
pine root
just seeing what is possible from this games gameplay
we should really make the gtfo style guide
analog flicker
(from spear)
a tenth of a second slower moment
wraith marsh
nuggies made a movement guide right
pine root
nuggies made a movement guide right
yeah but style is different
wraith marsh
ok
what I dont get about low fov gamers
this is advertised as a hardcore game right
earnest forge
Imagine default game FoV being 90
wraith marsh
so surely youve played at least 1 other game
pine root
XD
wraith marsh
who DOESNT immediately go to settings and change their settings to their liking
ESPECIALLY fov
pine root
this game also has maybe the worst default fov
earnest forge
Quite a lot of players, actually
pine root
i have ever played
pine root
Quite a lot of players, actually
yeah i found this out by watching twich streams
pine root
ok
style guide. what do we consider a style play
like 360 scout kills
obvi
so is it less optimal plays/ diffiuclt things / high iq gamer moments
wraith marsh
ah ok
pine root
like is shooting through a closed door to kill the one sleeper banging on it a style play?
wraith marsh
I asked about movement guide cuz I was wondering which direction you wanted to go
rose nova
who DOESNT immediately go to settings and change their settings to their liking
people do that, but even tho i might be amazed, not every gamer ever plays at high fov on every videogame they choose
pine root
I asked about movement guide cuz I was wondering which direction you wanted to g...
movement is good
like you need movement
wraith marsh
yeah but most ppl dont play on super low fov
like jish said, this game has a horrible default fov
pine root
like is shooting through a closed door to kill the one sleeper banging on it a s...
also @wraith marsh
junior latch
agree
wraith marsh
also <@417401501774774272>
nah
wraith marsh
it could be considered style but I think thats just like
really niche game knowledge play
and actually useful
pine root
okay your werid cam shit that you can do is style
green rivet
style guide. what do we consider a style play
Sprint mines on 0/0 ammo
wraith marsh
I think it might make it kinda free on standing enemies
pine root
Sprint mines on 0/0 ammo
100%
wraith marsh
since you get the rectangle hitbox parallel to the floor
pine root
since you get the rectangle hitbox parallel to the floor
yeah
wraith marsh
byeah, those are 100% style cuz its not actually useful
its just funny
one day
we will go to kill a charger scout
pine root
silent shooting?
pine root
and quick swap charger scout?
wraith marsh
quick swap charger scout is just pretty useful
I think it counts cuz uhh
executing like a giant or smth
with occi + back shot
is defo style imo
and its a similar concept
wraith marsh
(though on cscout its actually useful, giant its just style or to save 1 bullet)
silent shot would make it style definitely
base silent shots is just abuse tbh
pine root
yeah but combining it in melee
for steath rooms
is just sick
if everyone is doing it
wraith marsh
I did it once by accident
pine root
imgine 7 giants just dying stealth
wraith marsh
the ppl I was playing with were very confused
pine root
yeah it is confusing
wraith marsh
I did it in the middle of like 4 enemis too it was really good
I Forget if I clipped it or not
lemme check
mystic moss
style play is just wasting stamina
analog flicker
r3d1style
green rivet
go solo b4
I second this
grizzled bison
That's literally your alt account shut up
earnest forge
Wait, Jish and Bread were alts, all along ?
pine root
yeah
junior latch
i feel like silent shots fall way more into exploit than style
mystic moss
COLORED NAME IN SCREENSHOT
wraith marsh
fuck I didnt clip it
grizzled bison
Machoke
wraith marsh
yeah
grizzled bison
Very easy!
wraith marsh
because the nonstyle play is just bring hel shotgun
pine root
idc if you find it easy
pine root
it just means you are either hot or have no boundaries
grizzled bison
I am very hot
pine root
yeah you are
grizzled bison
If you want me to machoke your birther in a lobby just invite me
pine root
XD
grizzled bison
3 burst cannon shots is also an easy alternative
And people say the weapon is bad...
pine root
3 burst cannon shots is also an easy alternative
We are talking about solo no birth with like saws off combat
Or like hel rev combat
Or saws off mg
grizzled bison
Maybe don't use the combat shotgun
wraith marsh
yeah, makes the game too easy
grizzled bison
Sawed off is very based
pine root
Sawed off is way more style
grizzled bison
Style points is using the precision rifle
wraith marsh
style but theyre really practical
grizzled bison
It's essentially a burst cancel
pine root
Style points is using the precision rifle
100%