gtfo-chat

[junior latch]

2

[knotty bobcat]

High cal has 3 dmg

[true pilot]

eva

[knotty bobcat]

brother

[junior latch]

1

[knotty bobcat]

oh wait you're counting down

[true pilot]

you made a riddle

[junior latch]

arbalist machine gun

[true pilot]

unsolvable

[bronze atlas]

HUH

[true pilot]

it was said

[analog flicker]

MY GUY

[junior latch]

Now lets see the rage

[true pilot]

by solace

[analog flicker]

I said that twice

[knotty bobcat]

ARBALIST IS 4 DMG AND 7 RANGE

[junior latch]

you did

[true pilot]

eva solace said it

[bronze atlas]

XDDDD

[analog flicker]

[junior latch]

mustve missed it then sry solace

Ah frick

[bronze atlas]

the secondary one right?

[junior latch]

that was just when i checked for its new stat addition

[bronze atlas]

yeee

[junior latch]

my bad

[true pilot]

tbh machinegus have bad reloads and decent range

do stagger

[analog flicker]

Arbalist / HAR / Rifle Share the 5 dmg per bullet

[bronze atlas]

give us another one

[true pilot]

oh no

[bronze atlas]

oh yes

[true pilot]

we are gonna be here for hours

[junior latch]

Easy version now

[true pilot]

Im in

[junior latch]

let me check

[knotty bobcat]

Arbalist has such an insane fucking dps no shot its ''4'' dmg

[sharp owl]

easy for nerds

laaaame

[ruby temple]

Whats the most brain dead gun

Just point and click

[knotty bobcat]

Hel Shotty

[true pilot]

Precision rifle

[analog flicker]

It's dps is slower than Rifles and Hars btw..

[wispy bluff]

PDW, HEL Shotgun, Combat Shotgun...

Carbine...

[foggy rivet]

shadow mother and baby when

[bronze atlas]

gotta say

[junior latch]

hip fire: 10
Stagger potential: 5
Reload: 8

[knotty bobcat]

Idk what the har is

[true pilot]

pdw

[analog flicker]

Heavy assault rifle

[knotty bobcat]

Ah

[bronze atlas]

HEL shotgun feels great to clear small corridors

[knotty bobcat]

Pistol

[ruby temple]

Full auto 12 gauge go brr

[bronze atlas]

I fucking love HEL shotty on some missions

[true pilot]

hel revo?

[junior latch]

hip fire… 10 for hel revo?

absolute best hipfire possible ?

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

hmmm

i mean

if you can aim

[junior latch]

lemme add a 4th i thought this would go zoom

[knotty bobcat]

10/10 Hipfire's gotta be either choke mod or pistol
Their hipfire is dead center accurate

[analog flicker]

Hel revo has a decent hip fire. But I wouldn't put it 10

[true pilot]

So defo not high cal

[junior latch]

hip fire: 10
Stagger potential: 5
Reload: 8
Dmg: 8

[wispy bluff]

Choke Mode for sure?

[junior latch]

Have it at 7 iirc

[wispy bluff]

No way pistol is 8 dmg

[true pilot]

would make sense

[junior latch]

Nop

[true pilot]

dmr?

[bronze atlas]

stagger is med

[knotty bobcat]

Revolver ?

[junior latch]

people throwing in random guns

[true pilot]

hipfire revo?

cmon

[bronze atlas]

give me range

[wispy bluff]

When we say DMG do we talk DMG per bullet or just DPS with fire rate accounted for?

[coarse grail]

I enjoy hipfire revo ngl

[true pilot]

rifle?

[junior latch]

hipfire revo is accurate for 1 bullet

[knotty bobcat]

The hipfire's pretty good on it?
You can tap something across the room pretty easily

[junior latch]

Dmg per shot (burst cannon burst counting as 1 shot)

[coarse grail]

I like playing osu with the revolver when the strikers walk into range

[true pilot]

then you hit the ceiling with next bullet

[knotty bobcat]

The dmg stat is also for 1 bullet

Why wouldnt the hipfire stat also be for 1 bullet?
👴🏻

[junior latch]

cuz hipfire isnt dmg

[wispy bluff]

lots of damage, stupid hipfire, stupid reload speed

[true pilot]

PDW has no damage

[wispy bluff]

Nope, don't know such guns.

[true pilot]

i dunno rifle

it has good hipfiee i think

[junior latch]

Artek it includes reload cancels

[wispy bluff]

boooooo

[analog flicker]

What's the range eva?

[bronze atlas]

give us range

[knotty bobcat]

Carbine idk

[true pilot]

watch it be 1

[junior latch]

Range is easy tho

hip fire: 10
Stagger potential: 5
Reload: 8
Dmg: 8
Range: 2

[true pilot]

i was not far off

god

[analog flicker]

Combat?

[bronze atlas]

because sawed off has a hipfire accuarcy of 10 aswell in the useful range

[wispy bluff]

so one of the shotguns

[true pilot]

oh

[analog flicker]

Wait no

[sharp owl]

combat shotgun

[wispy bluff]

Whatever, Pump Action

[bronze atlas]

sawed off?

[junior latch]

Artek got it

[true pilot]

Pump?

[analog flicker]

Ye

[junior latch]

Pump yep

[analog flicker]

It's s870

[knotty bobcat]

Normal shotty

[bronze atlas]

ohh

[coarse grail]

Pump has reload 8? 🤨

[junior latch]

its reload cancel is slick

[wispy bluff]

8 for reload is rich, but can't complain too much

[junior latch]

it puts it around the range for most mains

[bronze atlas]

wait which one is the pump?

[junior latch]

that arent hel revo

[junior latch]

Standard shotty

[coarse grail]

The buckland s890 🤓

[analog flicker]

Buckland S870

[knotty bobcat]

A 1.2 s reload being 8 is fucking livid

[analog flicker]

[bronze atlas]

oh the secondary one

[analog flicker]

Special**

[bronze atlas]

my bad

[junior latch]

Ok if anyone gets this wrong then they gotta restart gtfo

Range: 10
Precision: 10
Stagger: 1

[true pilot]

hmmmm

[junior latch]

Hm?ü

[coarse grail]

hmmm

[true pilot]

i dont know guys

seems hard

[bronze atlas]

I want to say sniper but

[knotty bobcat]

How is 1.2s a 8
it's 6 at best.

[junior latch]

Whatv

[bronze atlas]

actually

[junior latch]

Do you know the reload speeds?

[knotty bobcat]

Some of em
Alot go under 1 second

[bronze atlas]

you cant stagger enemies if you kill them in one shot 🧠

[junior latch]

no

lol

pdw with cancel does

[true pilot]

Wait pdw needs cancel?

[junior latch]

a lot of others barely scratch 1s flat

[junior latch]

i mean it goes to like 0.6 sec reload

[coarse grail]

So on reload cancelled reload time pump shotgun is like top 20th percentile?

[junior latch]

LOL

[junior latch]

not quite, this isnt rly percentile

[bronze atlas]

give us another stat

[junior latch]

dmg: 9

[true pilot]

wait 9?

[bronze atlas]

defo not the sniper

[true pilot]

oh you dont count precision

so not sniper

[knotty bobcat]

PDW, pistol, hel revo, machine pistol, smg, carbine, AR, Revolver

[coarse grail]

but its reload time is being considered in a vacuum? Not bearing in mind total mag damage or anything?

[true pilot]

some shotgun prolly then

[wispy bluff]

high precision, range, but no stagger...

[bronze atlas]

well as I said if you kill them with one shot you cant stagger them

[true pilot]

i take that back

[junior latch]

huh why would it count mag things

[true pilot]

it has range

choke mode doesnt have op range

Dmr or rifle?

[coarse grail]

idk if you were saying pump shotgun is really great cos you don't need to reload it often or something AND its quite fast

[bronze atlas]

HEL rifle?

[wispy bluff]

low stagger also means low damage because they always go hand in hand

[junior latch]

None of those have a natural reload of even 1s flat

some might barely reach it with reload cancels

[wispy bluff]

Something that has batshit range and precision but no stagger or dmg

[junior latch]

Dmg 9???

[junior latch]

No

[true pilot]

No idea

[knotty bobcat]

Weren't you counting reload cancels in the reload stat?
All of those have under 1 second reload cancels afaik

[coarse grail]

Is this not just the hel rifle?

[true pilot]

or hel gun…

[wispy bluff]

I mean, sniper fits most of it except for stagger. But then again who staggers people with a sniper rifle? No one.

[bronze atlas]

10 range

[analog flicker]

Hel gun damage 9?

[bronze atlas]

10 precision

[junior latch]

Range: 10/10
Precision: 10/10
Stagger: 1/10
Damage: 9/10

[true pilot]

okay so not hell

[junior latch]

2 people have guessed right

[true pilot]

hel rofle

[junior latch]

or at least it seems so

[bronze atlas]

rlly?

[coarse grail]

Oh right I'd assumed you'd say when someone got it

Sniper then

[junior latch]

sniper yes

[analog flicker]

What other gun

[true pilot]

gurss yeah sniper

[analog flicker]

Has 2x precision

[wispy bluff]

Explain the stagger stat

[knotty bobcat]

How is sniper 1 stagger

[bronze atlas]

I got it on the first try

xd

[bronze atlas]

as I said

[wispy bluff]

Some of these are very fucking vague

[junior latch]

sniper doesnt stagger rly

You either kill or fail

[true pilot]

Tbh sniper was so obvious

[analog flicker]

Would you use sniper to stagger?

[bronze atlas]

if you kill them in a shot you cant stagger them,

[knotty bobcat]

It staggers everything with 1 shot

[wispy bluff]

That doesn't seem objective to me, so i disagree

It either stagger or not

[coarse grail]

this does seem like the stats aren't being evalulated independantly

[wispy bluff]

Wether or not its practical is a whole other shtick

[knotty bobcat]

Literally
If you hit it
They will stagger
no matter what

How is that a fucking 1/10 stagger

[junior latch]

it 1 shots all smalls and bigs

It only staggers bbcs and snatcher

[bronze atlas]

stagger:1 (dependant on skill)

[junior latch]

you could maybe argue a 2

if you rly wanted

[coarse grail]

If I wanted to stagger a giant I'd rather have a sniper than an assault rifle

[junior latch]

but its stagger potential overall

No shit a veruta 1 bullet does less than 1 sniper bullet stagger wise

[junior latch]

with a sniper youd just kill

[true pilot]

I guess thats a stagger

[bronze atlas]

I hate when people pop giant's heads off when there is a sniper

[junior latch]

youd never shoot body

[knotty bobcat]

You flip flop between potential and ''per bullet/burst'' for these stats alot

[junior latch]

i could give intricate descriptions

but then people would be confused anyhow

[true pilot]

i mean burst weapons kinda rely on… well bursts

[junior latch]

Also different stats work differently

reload speed is simple af with reload cancels included

[true pilot]

also when will this become a „wordle” but its gtfo guns

[knotty bobcat]

Sniper is somehow not a 10/10 on damage despite being able to 1 shot most things in the game ((because that's actually precision 🤓))

[junior latch]

range is actual range + how effective it is to shoot there + how well it does past fall off range

[analog flicker]

12 dmg
3 range
2 clip size

[junior latch]

cuz base dmg 40

[true pilot]

yeah

[analog flicker]

I didn't mean to reply

[junior latch]

precision is its own stat

[coarse grail]

So would you say scattergun has 1 for stagger?

[bronze atlas]

there is so little of them

[analog flicker]

My b

[junior latch]

Scatter has 3 range?

[bronze atlas]

sawed off

3 range

nvm

[true pilot]

count in melees and sentries and… there is still not many but atleast some

[analog flicker]

I was thinking just the sheer number of pellets

[junior latch]

also 2 clip size??

unless you meme on actual clip size

id probably have scatter at 2 btw for range

[coarse grail]

Eva what do you give scatter for stagger?

[analog flicker]

I put range 3 because the sheer number of pellets still damages shit

[junior latch]

dont have it ranked

[true pilot]

cant wait to see every team running 4 scaterguns

[junior latch]

cuz scatter doesnt exist rn

[true pilot]

Watch scatter be nerfed to the ground

and all is for nothing

[junior latch]

99 dmg

[analog flicker]

It was already nerfed back then. Wym?

[junior latch]

from 192 dmg to 128

[true pilot]

damage - 0.1, recoil - 99

[junior latch]

and from i think 19 ammo to 14 i think

[analog flicker]

Cube saying they gonna nerf it again

[true pilot]

i mean they could

not saying they will

i hope they wont

[bronze atlas]

oof

192 to 128?

that has to hurt

[junior latch]

it went from giga broken to niche but strong

[analog flicker]

Back during 192 it could pen enemies as well didn't it?

[junior latch]

nope

[true pilot]

oneshot everything to almost oneshot everythinf

[junior latch]

pen (afaik) never worked on shotguns

[junior latch]

it lost its mom 2 shot :c

otherwise only lost clean 1 shot without crit on big shooter variances

[analog flicker]

looks at hel shotgun

But yeha

[true pilot]

still a mom per mag no?

[junior latch]

hm

[analog flicker]

At the time

[junior latch]

wack

[bronze atlas]

looks back

[junior latch]

but true

[analog flicker]

Probably not

[junior latch]

i think they“fixed“ it with hel shotty?

i dont remember honestly shit

[bronze atlas]

HEL shotty has a plesant sound imo

[junior latch]

not quite, since mag is 2 need a bit extra

[knotty bobcat]

So I wasnt crazy when my choke mod only killed 1 striker at a time

[analog flicker]

I only recall there being a patch note making scatter not pen

[junior latch]

same

[bronze atlas]

you arent

[junior latch]

but i remember people (who were/are often here aswell) talking about pen not working on shotguns at the time

[analog flicker]

#patch-notes message

[junior latch]

i mean only hel guns pen

[knotty bobcat]

Another thing I'm starting to really dislike about this game

Spending an entire charge of Tool Refill to only get 1 mine back.

[analog flicker]

Same

[knotty bobcat]

Sometimes you get 2, sometimes you get 1
Game wants me to suffer

[junior latch]

1 mine is 10-15 kills

[analog flicker]

But tbh Eva. A lot of those guys pretty based vets

[junior latch]

[junior latch]

hm?

[knotty bobcat]

I'd like for it to be consistent

Either give me only 1 mine

or only give me 2

don't switch between 1 or 2 mines randomly

[true pilot]

why not give 3 =)

[knotty bobcat]

Why not all 8

[analog flicker]

I recall many of them saying scatter gun wasn't strong because of the pierce or what not

Or something along those lines

[bronze atlas]

gtg for now guys cya

[analog flicker]

My memory is hazy

[junior latch]

#gtfo-chat message

smth like this is what i mean

At the time i never bothered to check

[analog flicker]

Ye

[junior latch]

i just started being ok at the game

[analog flicker]

I would prefer to be average

But I'm above average

But I also don't want to be a vet

A lot of newcomers I've met called vets crazy hard-core players.

[junior latch]

You think you arent a vet?

[analog flicker]

Or some have had a shifty experience with them

[junior latch]

how many hours do you have
How much have you solo/duod (or bot run)
How many clears are your most for a level?

[analog flicker]

Mostly in the sense that others who joined in my time (OGR1) have upwards of 2k-3k hours

Whereas I have 1k

[junior latch]

i have 2.1k or so

1k is easily vet territory

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

yeah i guess there are players who just beat the level for you and make it not fun

[junior latch]

Well, i dont join lfg to teach peope (usually) or to let them scamper around

I play for lulz and fun. Lfg beginners obviously is different

[analog flicker]

Same.

It's the reason I play muted in lfgs lately

[junior latch]

Its honestly so funny

to meet people that blame/flame me

in lfgs

like not placing my sentry in the reactor for r3a3

[analog flicker]

I recall 1 guy who wanted us to stick together at all times.

They woke the room

And he blamed me who was stealthing in a different room

[gray pilot]

Haha peasants

[knotty bobcat]

Well
Just got my ass kicked in the R5B1 overload
These giants are a bit much vs 3 bots

[analog flicker]

[analog flicker]

When they want all sentries placed down for r1c1 first wave

[junior latch]

8k hours inc

[trail plover]

I love the high caliber pistol it’s so satisfying

[junior latch]

im honestly interested in what the highest single person hour total is

[knotty bobcat]

How can you love the high cal
I used it once and it's been the worst feeling gun I've ever used in this game

[bronze atlas]

I have to agree with this statement with my whole heart

[sharp owl]

dont expect bots to perform well

[junior latch]

i know one of my speed party has a ludicrous 10k+ hour as a 4 stack (more probably 15+k)

[analog flicker]

High cal is a newbie gun tbh

[gray pilot]

It’s fody_55 with 55k hours

[analog flicker]

Sounds about right

[bronze atlas]

but its great

imo

[knotty bobcat]

Dont worry I'm not when both Dauda and Hacket immediatey stop everything to stand infront of me with medkits in their hands because 1 giant licked me

[bronze atlas]

dauda my belowed

[analog flicker]

25 damage
8m range
Long reload
6 mag

High cal used to do 30 dmg

[wraith marsh]

Most ppl think the exact opposite

[analog flicker]

It's fallen off since it lost that 30 dmg mark

[knotty bobcat]

''Oh dude the player needs some healing, they just took 24 dmg from their 100 max health!
Let's stand infront of him so he can't shoot the other 3 giants, 5 hybrids, and handful of small enemies''

[analog flicker]

Bots get blamed for most quirks that aren't their fault anyhow.

[true pilot]

just like real players would do!

[sharp owl]

what else are people gon blame them for? waking up a room?

[analog flicker]

[bronze atlas]

Its a good slot filler when you want to have fun ig

then again, I am a sniper main

[junior latch]

high cal is perfectly fine if your goal isnt chargers

[knotty bobcat]

It's so fucking incredibly ass.
Its recoil is straight up disorienting, the reticle is ass, hipfire is ass, the reload is bad, the ammo is shit, the mag size is awful, the rof is terrible

Literally the only positive is 1 shotting Strikers to the body, and shooters to the head, but like??
You don't need that.
if you suck at aiming, just double tap strikers with the revolver and you still have a better gun overall

[junior latch]

and even then you could just become cracked and synergy abuse

[analog flicker]

So basically skill issue

High cal is as Eva said. Still good. Just not as great as it used to be imo

[knotty bobcat]

The Revolver is better than the High Calibre in every single way except 1 shotting strikers to the body

[bronze atlas]

some people are good with scoped guns, some are with bursts some are with dmrs and some are with auto’s

[junior latch]

Recoil is totally fine
Reload is fine
Ammo is good for what it does
Mag size is kinda meh with reload considered but its ok

Also no, if you need to double tap with revolver then high cal is strictly better

Hell, you need a pretty decent hs rate for revo to outperform it

[analog flicker]

Revolver loses efficiency if you're 2 shooting strikers

[junior latch]

And any giants and scouts
(Revo is Also worse vs chargers)

[knotty bobcat]

Recoil compared to the revolver?
The revolver doesn't move, the high cal makes your character flinch as if he's scared of the gun.

[bronze atlas]

Run your liking to your hearts content

[junior latch]

do you spam the fuck outta high cal?

[bronze atlas]

(İf you’re not trolling that is)

[knotty bobcat]

Its impossible to spam with it since it can only output like 2 shots a second

[junior latch]

it has a quicker shot delay than pump shotty

[bronze atlas]

Aim punch is too great to spam

[analog flicker]

High cals recoil isn't that bad as you put it unless you spam it as fast as it can shoot.

[knotty bobcat]

That's a shotgun

[junior latch]

also range vs strikers for 1 body doesnt matter than much (iirc it stops 1 tapping around 19m)

[true pilot]

If you spam revo you are aiming at the ceiling, if you spam high cal you are still looking at the enemy

[junior latch]

Which it competes against somewha

High cal is the low skill revolcer

[analog flicker]

👆

[junior latch]

if you arent getting at least 50% headshots high cal is prolly better

[knotty bobcat]

Im not exactly going to stop shooting and wait for the recoil to come down when there's 5 or so strikers infront of me
With the revo I can just tap all 5 heads in less time than the high cal can even kill all 5 baseline

[bronze atlas]

That’s what I was trying to say but I couldnt find the right words because I am kind of in a hurry

[junior latch]

revo is better at high skill tho easily

[junior latch]

Why are there 5 in front of you when you couldve killed them 10-15 meters out

[analog flicker]

They aren't built to function the same lol.

[junior latch]

you can reposition and then get taps

[true pilot]

its sorta like comparing full autos and snipers

[junior latch]

high cal 1 mags giants easily

[knotty bobcat]

I can do the exact same with the Revolver but just way better :]
Revo even got longer range

[junior latch]

Deneex, opinion on hel shotty

[analog flicker]

I miss the 2 tap back qwq

[knotty bobcat]

I like it
used it like, 3 times

[true pilot]

opinion on PDW denex

[junior latch]

range that only matters for headshots in this case. And you prolly dont hit random headshots 20 meters out consistently

[knotty bobcat]

Good for just holding a corner and defending flanks

[junior latch]

Rip

High cal has a higher floor than revo but ends up being worse at the cracked aim lvl

[knotty bobcat]

Used to hate it.
Grew to love it.
Especially with just burst firing down 1 and 1 enemy at a time

• the thermal is nice but i kinda dislike aiming the thermal

I end up just hipfiring the gun which works fine

[true pilot]

i like the thermal a lot

[wraith marsh]

sorry, moved to pc, but yeah eva summed it up

[knotty bobcat]

The scope just looks off to me.

[wraith marsh]

also hipfire in this game is always a joke lol

complaining about reticle when theyre all dogshit

and fov based

[analog flicker]

crosshairs are basically broken if you aren't playing default fov

(unless you play with the mod)

[junior latch]

This is still funny to me

[wraith marsh]

also yeah complaining about recoil and then bringing up revolver 2 taps is

[junior latch]

you wanna play at not a trash fov? Get a circle thats bigger than it actually is

[wraith marsh]

very humorous

[analog flicker]

[knotty bobcat]

I'll never touch the High Calibre again
I tried it for like, 2-3 missions. And it was the worst gun i've used yet.
It's -fine- against giants but anything else I'd rather have literally any other secondary

Hel I prefer the Sawed off over it

Atleast the sawed off is fun to use, the high calibre feels awful

[analog flicker]

sawed off got buffed to 30 damage

[junior latch]

high cal over precision rifle

hey

precision rifle has the funny situation of being the worst gun but being good in the hardest lvl

[true pilot]

which hardest level

R4E1 secondary

or R7E1?

[knotty bobcat]

atleast the precision has range

which kinda makes up for the shitty rof and reload

[junior latch]

R4E1 easily lol

[true pilot]

Yeah figured

[junior latch]

and dmg

[true pilot]

Ah yes

[bronze atlas]

R7E1 is more doable as I watched

[junior latch]

also its rof is insanely quick?? (Which is its own issue)

[true pilot]

i dont get why they made it full auto

[knotty bobcat]

How is 3 RoF insanely quickly

[junior latch]

again, high cal 1 taps strikers to the body at 19 meters still

[wraith marsh]

when are you firing more than 3 times a second

please tell me

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

with a sniper

[bronze atlas]

Because of the thermal?

[junior latch]

dudes playing revolver and fans the hammer wirh 6 headshots each time obviously @wraith marsh

[wraith marsh]

clearly

[junior latch]

mix of stuff i wont spoil

[wraith marsh]

wish I was that good

[knotty bobcat]

when there's more than 3 enemies infront of me?
They're far away, running in a straight line towards me, why would I not just put em all down as quick as I can?

[bronze atlas]

Can you spoiler tag it

[wraith marsh]

bro its 3 times A SECOND

[bronze atlas]

Like this

[true pilot]

you know hiding messages exists, right?

[bronze atlas]

||

[junior latch]

dude, if you shoot more than 3 times a second with revolver you trolling

[junior latch]

im stupid and on phone

AND more importantly

[wraith marsh]

I think were on pr rn eva

[true pilot]

me too

[junior latch]

making pizza rn

[wraith marsh]

but point still stands

[true pilot]

||me too||

[knotty bobcat]

???
How?

[junior latch]

Im comparing

[true pilot]

cool

[wraith marsh]

ah

[analog flicker]

but do it got pineapple?

[junior latch]

Cuz recoil is shit

[junior latch]

Disgusting

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

and will we get a slice?

[bronze atlas]

Does it or DOES IT NOT?!?!

[wraith marsh]

me pulling down in a game where recoil = random fucking fire angles

😃

[knotty bobcat]

It's more than manageable

[pine root]

When we have 2 tanks on us and we need to kill the shadow giant before he wipes us

[analog flicker]

I recall a newcomer saying normal AR had too much recoil

[true pilot]

tbh i wonder if you could play russian roullete with high cal

[knotty bobcat]

Why i've gotten used to flicking rather than trying to combat recoil

[wraith marsh]

ok TANK with pr is

the only argument I Can see

if youre magdumping a giant you shouldnt have brought pr

(aka you shouldnt have brought pr period, but this is a joke convo)

[junior latch]

You took more than 3 guesses F

[wraith marsh]

you did not read what I said

[true pilot]

=(

[pine root]

You think rando is possible with 4 pr s

[wraith marsh]

we need loadout and gun stat rando

[junior latch]

Just kite and door bug

[pine root]

0:0

[wraith marsh]

load in with 30 damage pr

[pine root]

Idk if it would help you

Tbh

[wraith marsh]

you see

[pine root]

Blood doors are kinda crazy right now

[wraith marsh]

we loaded into r7a1

and got 3 tanks in a zone with no doors

so uhh

yeah

and the first scan was an s1

[analog flicker]

me joining mid-game one match.
Me: Not the chinese name with a inf ammo no recoil PR full autoing all the rooms

[pine root]

Then had to do an blood door

[knotty bobcat]

r7a1 has tanks?-

[pine root]

Rando does

[wraith marsh]

it was rando, cursed af

[pine root]

Sometimes

[knotty bobcat]

I dont know what rando is

[wraith marsh]

randomizer

[knotty bobcat]

Oooh.

[analog flicker]

[knotty bobcat]

That'd do it

[pine root]

Why did we wipe on that one again

[wraith marsh]

uhhhhhhhhh

[pine root]

I can’t remember

[wraith marsh]

im confusing it with the r3a1 run, trying to remember

[pine root]

Yup same

[wraith marsh]

oh

we didnt die

we realized there was no neonate thingy?

[junior latch]

will be back, finishing pizza prep

[pine root]

OH

Wasn’t that an r3a1

No it was the r7a1

[wraith marsh]

I dont know

map knowledge is gone

brain gone

[pine root]

Then we switched

[sharp owl]

both have neonate

[wraith marsh]

we need to finish a run so I can post it to spread the mod

[pine root]

R1d1 we beat

[wraith marsh]

RIGHT

holy fuck where is my brain

that was the run I didnt record too fuck me

[bronze atlas]

How did R7A1 went?

I dont remember anything

[pine root]

The surge scan was difficult

[bronze atlas]

Its a hsu mission right?

[gray pilot]

its the one with the baby

and the doors

[analog flicker]

doors

[kind ruin]

Why is r4 so hard man wtf

[analog flicker]

[kind ruin]

I got the GTFO stream profile setup bundle is cool

[serene berry]

room, biiiig

[knotty bobcat]

If they give high cal 30 dmg I might use it but they probably never will since hel rifle has 30 dmg or some other reason like that

[fleet tinsel]

Mistake. I meant to say R1D1 I finished in an hour because we went real slow.

I should have worded it better, my apologies.

@sharp owl you defeaned yourself

[sharp owl]

I am not good write eng, sorry @fleet tinsel

[ruby temple]

Scared me

[fleet tinsel]

hey dude turn off defean at least. so we can time our attacks together when one of us say "stop" to stop moving, or "charge" to start charge against hte big guys

like I get it, you don't have to talk if your english isn't good, but we need to coordinate our attacks.

[sharp owl]

Understand, but i am not hear and bad

[junior latch]

they changed it from 30 to 25 (and gave it more ammo per refill aswell as falloff happening slower iirc) because it wouldve just been heavily outvalued by hel rifle and or choke mod

[knotty bobcat]

outvalued as in the hel rifle and choke mod just being worse than it or?

[rose nova]

iff it still had the old 30 dmg n ammo it would b ever more outvalued

maybs

[wraith marsh]

just give it back 30 and keep the ammo change

its balacned I swear

(please)

[junior latch]

outvalued by -> worse than

with 30 dmg and ammo kept it would become quite strong, choke would still be better into bosses and hel rifle would still have a higher ceiling with pen

issue is that it would be absolutely easy to hit its at that point highish peak

[knotty bobcat]

sooo, nothing changes

just leave it nerfed cuz buffing won't change much?

[wraith marsh]

it would be too good if it was buffed back to 30

[junior latch]

^

[wraith marsh]

itd be almost on par with combat shotty

[junior latch]

hel rifle has actual downsides for its peak power

choke mod too

high cal has a way more lenient mag size and rate of fire

high cal is THE easiest gun to get value out of

[sharp siren]

buff its damage to 28

so we can have shitty special damage boosters

to get it

can we get weapon customization 🙏

[analog flicker]

imagine not having a 20% special damage booster

[sharp siren]

game hates me

[analog flicker]

[rose nova]

dies

[latent palm]

@sharp owl u free?

[knotty bobcat]

20% is from bold?*

[analog flicker]

tbf finding a 20% special damage booster that doesn't have a dumb requirement is more rare

[sharp owl]

in a lobby rn

[latent palm]

leave it

[knotty bobcat]

Muted is max 15%
agressive is 30%

[sharp owl]

whats your offer

[knotty bobcat]

I think

[latent palm]

GTFO

take it or leave it

[sharp owl]

i want more

[latent palm]

sussy run

[sharp owl]

maybe 🤔

[lone wraith]

You get to hear sussy warp gate noises

[sharp owl]

ayo 👀

[stone marten]

Whats the consensus on the double tap hanaway?

[analog flicker]

2tap strikers/shooters 1 body 1 head

[wraith marsh]

uts good

[little ridge]

I feel that I "like it" more for non-meta reasons

I think it's "fine"

[ancient dove]

Idk why but i felt like double tap hanaway has more ammo than it's semi automatic variant

oh yeah it does.

i really likes the reality warping moment

like being in a completely open field

[latent palm]

beepo

[ancient dove]

fighting off flying testicles

[latent palm]

u free for 1 game

[little ridge]

nope dude, sorry 😦

[latent palm]

aight

[sharp owl]

goer to bed

[analog flicker]

Bed Enjoyer

[lone wraith]

That Kaiser guy kidnapped me and I am a lonely hostage :(

[meager sleet]

that is sad

have popcorn 🍿

[meager sleet]

what's the semi variant?

just rifle right?

[rose nova]

i would think dmr since its Hanaway too

[meager sleet]

perhaps

dmr my beloved

i hate that you don't one tap strikers but if i get any damage mod i could probably get a high

[rose nova]

u can use any main dmg boosters

as long as its more than 3%

[meager sleet]

[analog flicker]

if you find a main damage booster less than 3% Screen shot that shit and send it to GTFO media

[sharp owl]

holy shit

i did the r1a1 4 class alarm

solo

i just need the hsu and im done

[meager sleet]

nice

[analog flicker]

with bots?

[sharp owl]

no bots

[analog flicker]

cracked

[sharp owl]

PURE adrenaline

literally shaking

[burnt flume]

nice, take all the time you need

you know how the rest of the mission goes, right?

[sharp owl]

i think you go take a sample and then extract

but the extraction part is a wave

im gonna go set my turret at spawn

[burnt flume]

yeah, you find the HSU, do the scan, then get out

extract takes 30 seconds

[sharp owl]

will a combat shotgun One shot a scout to the head

i kinda dont wanna take my chances with a knife

it needs to die in one shot right

automatics dont work

[burnt flume]

combat shotgun can work, but there should not be a scout in the HSU zone

I wouldn't recommend using combat shotgun for it anyway

[sharp owl]

im looting around looking for supplies

i wanna be at 100% everything

[burnt flume]

worst case scenario you should have enough tool and ammo to use your sentry and guns to take down a scout wave, bonus points for funneling them a good way

ah I see, have you checked the terminal so you know where everything is?

[meager sleet]

inb4 scout camping terminal lol

[sharp owl]

not yet

im just clearing everything

completely forgot about those

[burnt flume]

well, you can check the terminal first, which will tell you whether or not you need to clear the scout

[meager sleet]

good thinking

could just be a lock melter in that room lol

the fabled goat of all the equipment

[sharp owl]

i cleared the scout with my london souvenir

found nothing gonna go check the term

[burnt flume]

London is a shithole, however

[meager sleet]

well there's that

[burnt flume]

oi mate you got a licence for that?

[serene berry]

bonus zone_51 has no enemies but a ton of resources, its West of the Scouts/key zone

[sharp owl]

LIST MEDKIT
Listing items using filter medkit, progress: 100%
ID ITEM TYPE STATUS

END OF LIST

welp

[burnt flume]

medipack

alternatively, you can use LIST U or LIST RES

[sharp owl]

wait the game doesn't warn you if you search for something that doesn't exist?

[burnt flume]

Nope

The game will not hold your hand in any way

[sharp owl]

great

well there is a medikit in zone 52

thanks for that

even though this last zone just has sleepers this is so tense

[kind ruin]

We failed r4b3? ||Last night, I can’t believe it has 3 mothers man WHAT THE FUCK ||

[burnt flume]

only one is a forced encounter, another you can stealth, and the other you shouldn't need to go into that zone

[kind ruin]

We needed resources so we went into all the rooms we could to stealth grab. The first encounter we weren’t expecting it until someone woke a sleeper and we got shredded

[sharp owl]

bro there's 4 giants in the objective area ;-;

i have a knife

[pine root]

Well start shooting

[true pilot]

shoot?

[sharp owl]

absolutely not

[true pilot]

when in doubt, use a gun

Well then good luck running past them to extract

[serene berry]

yup, if you can't run past them after HSU scan, you are going to have to shoot them. simple as

[sharp owl]

they're not in the way

fortunately

but i was sneaking around them trying to find it

found the medkit, it's a 4 use

now i am at 100% everything

im also gonna grab a LRF for the sprint

can you make this in one go without stops?

[pine root]

What do you mean

What level

[true pilot]

if you slide then yes

without you might be able to

[sharp owl]

how do i use that

[pine root]

What level

[true pilot]

crouch while sprinting

[serene berry]

solo r1a1

[loud prism]

Hi. Where can I find the full game soundtrack?

[serene berry]

final stretch

[sharp owl]

r1a1

[pine root]

yeah you can from 90% of the hsu spawns make it without stam capping

[sharp owl]

done everything just need the sample and to book it all the way back

[pine root]

You will need to clear 3 sleepers maybe 6 on your way there

[sharp owl]

i don't like that

[true pilot]

just shoot

[sharp owl]

yeah im not great at that

[serene berry]

you did the alarm, you got yhis

[pine root]

Yeah make sure the rooms are clear before starting

[true pilot]

plan out a route

open all doors

know where to turn etc

[sharp owl]

yeah i planned it out

all are open

should i close them behind me

[serene berry]

nah

[true pilot]

dont bother

[sharp owl]

ok

[true pilot]

loses time

and most of the time you will get forward spawns

[serene berry]

close every door to a non-cleared room for sure though

[sharp owl]

the entire map is cleared

except the 4 giants

alright here goes nothing

YEEESSSSSSS

i did it

[true pilot]

congrats

now

go ahead and true solo rest of R1

for fun

[sharp owl]

r1b1 will be easier

yeah

for fun

[pine root]

Solo r1a1 randomizer

I am sure it is possible

[sharp owl]

i think i need to bring a sledge to deal with giants

randomizer?

[pine root]

Randomizer randomizer everything* in the game

[sharp owl]

what

[burnt flume]

Don't worry about it for now

[sharp owl]

you mean it randomizes everything

[burnt flume]

It's a mod or whatever that makes the zones and other things change

[serene berry]

mods, for those 2k players

[sharp owl]

that sounds cool ngl

[serene berry]

see what the rest of the game has in store for you before you start ordering off of the secret menu lol

[sharp owl]

oh yeah dont worry

im not even halfway through r2

i wont mess around with modded extra content

i think i haven't even seen half the monsters

[serene berry]

correct

[kind ruin]

Planktoncorrect.gif

[normal kernel]

hey all

[latent palm]

got bugged

R4E1 door had no way to be opened

[sharp owl]

that's pretty lore accurate

missions might be impossible and the warden's not gonna pick you up without completing it

[lone wraith]

Suffering from a rare syndrome known as Skill Issue

😔

[analog flicker]

rare?

idk where you come from. but that aint Rare

[pine root]

no bulkhead dc?

[latent palm]

no

not the DC

[pine root]

No key?

[latent palm]

the button that shows the interface for

isnt even on the door

[pine root]

oh no secondary . XD

[latent palm]

ask mushroom

[sharp owl]

is taking a spear just for the extra safety when dispatching giants valid

[latent palm]

and he said

its a vanilla bug

so no fix

[sharp owl]

i do not feel the need to one shot sleepers anywhere in the body using a hammer

[latent palm]

[sharp owl]

oof

[analog flicker]

strikers*

[sharp owl]

yeah that

btw do shooters have more hp than strikers

[analog flicker]

yes

[sharp owl]

why the fuck

[analog flicker]

30

[serene berry]

as long as you are fine with it getting a scream off and waking up the rest of the room

[serene berry]

but also higher precision multi

[sharp owl]

ah

well i mean.. still tho

that's like 50% higher

[analog flicker]

hammer full charge 20
spear full charge precision 22.75

[serene berry]

ya, kinda stinky

[analog flicker]

spear full charge without precision 17.5

[sharp owl]

yeah

idk giants are just indimidating

poking them from a greater than slap distance seems nice

[analog flicker]

spear is easier to deal with them

mainly due to range

[sharp owl]

so in a way the spear is more versatile

[analog flicker]

in a way yes

but hammer would be better overall

[wraith marsh]

I still will never get why ppl say spear is easier to solo a giant with than sledge

[analog flicker]

just due to being able to sprint and charge

[rose nova]

i mean:
able to adapt or be adapted to many different functions or activities.

like

then spear isnt?

cause u cant run with it so u cant adapt?

[analog flicker]

they don't get the timing right and get whacked

[wraith marsh]

theres pretty much no timing to it whatsoever

there is literally just the range, as long as you dont have like

200 ping

you will hit the giant before it can melee you

and you can hella pre swing

if you are constantly charging you can always stagger out of a tongue

its completely brainless if you just know what it can do

[analog flicker]

I would agree if newcomers could follow that consistently

[wraith marsh]

as well, if anyones told you you need to wait for the giant to queue an attack before you swing

that is also just false

because sledge is just that dumb

[rose nova]

i think its a matter of practice

tbh is easy to panic

while doin it the first

20 times

40 50 even...

[analog flicker]

to a competent player those steps are easy chill

[rose nova]

cause sometimes u will b like ah got it WAIT NOT DEAD

[wraith marsh]

theres no steps

[rose nova]

and then u die

there b some stepts

[wraith marsh]

its charge and hit

repeatedly

[rose nova]

is like startin to like kill scouts

[wraith marsh]

no aiming required

[analog flicker]

so chill by your decription

[wraith marsh]

they just dont know how little they need to do

and panic like slendi said

cuz this game is a knowledge gap game

[analog flicker]

I should just full charge the body repeatedly

[sharp owl]

im kinda shit with the hammer im way too used to the speediness of the blade

[wraith marsh]

yes

[sharp owl]

i studied the blade

[wraith marsh]

you can do even less than that

you only need 2/3rds charge to stagger

[rose nova]

idk i try but sometims i dont stagger, or get skapped

[wraith marsh]

no limb break required

[analog flicker]

2/3rd is just damage stagger

which is a smaller timing

[wraith marsh]

thats the thing

it doesnt matter

thats what im trying to tell you

[rose nova]

kinda, does

[wraith marsh]

you can charge another 2/3rds

[rose nova]

unless u know how to evade it

[wraith marsh]

before they can tongue you

[rose nova]

they slap u

or scream

[wraith marsh]

youre not sitting next to them lol

you dont do that with spear either

scream is a diff story, youre not doing that with spear either

[analog flicker]

Chill I'm sorry but you can't just say that and not say all the extra stuff you then say later

not all newcomers and etc will know that shit

[wraith marsh]

read

please

[wraith marsh]

_ _

[rose nova]

ah yeah a newie will know exactly to charge 2/3 of a hammer on a dmg stagger when the shorter stagger ensues

[wraith marsh]

you need to know shit to spear solo too

[rose nova]

c:

[wraith marsh]

arguably more

because you need to know about limb breaks

[wraith marsh]

you dont HAVE to

it gives lenience

that is why I said it

mf looking like hes gonna attack?

just swing

if you were charging the whole time you will have 2/3 or more

you dont even need the full charge to stay safe is the point

im not talking a limb break no scream giant solo

let me ask you this

with spear and sledge

you see the mf look like hes gonna attack

you are swinging yes?

that is independent of weapon

with spear, you might not have the charge AND you have to aim for a nonbroken limb

with sledge you dont even need full

and you dont need a limb

it is literally just a knowledge gap

[rose nova]

tbh if its not the same for both, it is the same for both for a newie tbh
idk how long u think sledgehammers charge is but i cant get it 2/3s on a smol stagger by dmg

[wraith marsh]

which could be bridged just as easily as someone learning to solo with spear

[rose nova]

maybs its my skill issue

but thats the point

[wraith marsh]

I can go record it rn if you want

[rose nova]

skill issues

[rose nova]

even if u could i still wont b able to do it

i need practice papa

[wraith marsh]

fine, ill try to simplify the instructions even more

[junior latch]

having more range but losing a million other things =/= more versatile

[wraith marsh]

if hes gonna tongue you

swing

and be constantly charging

and ofc dont fucking stand next to him in melee range

[coarse grail]

I beat your mine speedrun m8

[analog flicker]

it was specific to dealing with giants making it easier or not and I did say Hammer was better overall

[wraith marsh]

im gonna just go record a few

[waxen sinew]

anyone want to join us pls help us we in gtfo 02

[junior latch]

you did?

[rose nova]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[coarse grail]

yeah

[wraith marsh]

eva please help me explain why giant solos with sledge are brainless

im somehow not getting through to them

[rose nova]

as a newie

not as ur pro way to do in on r5e1 ksdmkm

[analog flicker]

we aren't saying it isn't chill

[rose nova]

like how u started it

[junior latch]

spear is "easier" as a new guy to kill them (not to stealth tho)

but it teaches wrong things

[rose nova]

:]

[junior latch]

@coarse grail show log :o

[rose nova]

dies

[coarse grail]

oh fuck I forgot about that, its still there after closing game yeah?

[junior latch]

obviously yea

[wraith marsh]

idk, ill make this my opinion then
as a newie I feel like you are going to fuck up the spear solo if you know how to do it more often than a sledge solo because it is more precise
I will admit the punishment on sledge fuckups is generally a punch instead of a tongue, so 16 more damage

[junior latch]

also, unless its the last one. please tell me which one it is

[wraith marsh]

#gtfo-media message convos kinda over but eh

[sharp owl]

can someone give me some advice on my giant killing (clip in media)

[wraith marsh]

stayed too close

[coarse grail]

you wanna move around behind it and hit just after he comes out of his animation on an arm, from in front I don't think you can charge enough to stagger again

[sharp owl]

so i'm supposed to be charging only halfway

hit, charge, once he's out of the animation hit again even if not full

[wraith marsh]

no scream is fairly tricky to do

[sharp owl]

i think no hit is hard enough for me right now

[coarse grail]

this, pretty much, and always from behind, thats for a no scream

if you don't care about the scream its like chill said just stay a bit further away

[sharp owl]

Alright

And when 2 giants are close together I'm assuming it's impossible to not alert one right

[wraith marsh]

yeah pretty much

[sharp owl]

I don't see any way you could stealth that by yourself

Okay just making sure

Can these guys smack you if you're behind them

[coarse grail]

yup

[sharp owl]

That's gonna make it significantly harder

So you need to keep your distance and be on his back

[coarse grail]

but when they are staggered its safe to move in and then out of their range

[sharp owl]

Oh wait, right

[wraith marsh]

dont need to be on their back

its helpful if you can stay on it

as they die a lot faster

[coarse grail]

Does stagger damage not get multiplier by back mod?

[wraith marsh]

it does

its just not necessary cuz sledge has so much stagger

[pine root]

Sledge can deal 100 stagger dmg nothing else needed

Ona full charge

[sharp owl]

i feel like the precision rifle has insane potential but the aim required to unlock it is hard to achieve

[unreal crystal]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

precision rifle is just bad

[sharp owl]

nooo

its my fav gun

what makes it bad

[pine root]

Badger alt spotted

You need to say gun skill tho

[sharp owl]

what

[pine root]

Up time compared to dmg

[sharp owl]

i mean the thing can one shot headshot most small dudes from any range basically

[pine root]

Yes?

[unreal crystal]

if ur looking for a gun that can one shot smalls

use revo or hel gun :)

[burnt flume]

yeah precision rifle can one shot stuff but it has no upsides compared to other guns that do the same

[unreal crystal]

precision rifle reload is lame

[sharp owl]

hel rifle or hel gun

[unreal crystal]

hel gun

[pine root]

There is just much better options that do the same thing that have a better reload

[burnt flume]

hel gun is generally better, hel rifle isn't bad though

[sharp owl]

ill try them out

i also really like the clarity of the thermal

[pine root]

Maybe the most important stat in this game

[sharp owl]

it simplifies everything into shoot and dont shoot colors

and heads are easier to see

[pine root]

You don’t get to see projectiles?

[sharp owl]

yeah

its a feature

[pine root]

this is a big issue

[sharp owl]

so you can focus on your aim

idk the projectile thing was a biggest problem for me when i was running the pdw