gtfo-chat

[rose nova]

also, you might wanna just like LIST RESOURCES ZONE_65
cause i think its TOOL_REFILL but thats too long
so u can just write RESOURCES or RES for short and everything will appear

you can also shorten ZONE_65 with E_65

[sharp owl]

Machine pistol and precision rifle

[rose nova]

machinepistol id say aint bad

i mean is not pdw, nothin is

[fair loom]

hel revo and pdw

[sharp owl]

No it's garbage

[rose nova]

but its better than the other two

smg n assault rifl

[rose nova]

oh yeah fuck those

man machinegun is trash right

ew

[fair loom]

worst weapons

[rose nova]

hammer sucks ass

[sharp owl]

Ok that's massive copium

[true pilot]

Yes.

[rose nova]

fuck all those

[fair loom]

sniper is super ammo inefficient btw since it carries 13 rounds max so make sure nobody on your team has one

[rose nova]

and hel rifle is so bad for battery chargers it cant even oneshot em

[unreal mantle]

so what exactly is the worst then ?

for main and special ?

[sharp owl]

Machine pistol

[unreal mantle]

ims eeing a lot

[rose nova]

it depens

id say dont stress about it

[sharp owl]

Trollage

[rose nova]

it doesnt really matter

choose what u like

live it with

[serene berry]

did you know Burst cannon has recoil? it deserves the chair

[rose nova]

hey i am the chair

:[

[sharp owl]

But machine pistol for main and precision rifle for special

[serene berry]

fu- ih- no

you are a nice chair

[fair loom]

revolver is only good because of how fast you can fire it

[serene berry]

THE chair is electric

[rose nova]

ohhh

:]

ok

[lofty grotto]

Ok so… what are the details of R4 C2? Is it Bot-able?

And what are the objectives? And lastly, are there shadows?

[lofty grotto]

Battery chargers?

Snipers are used for levels with high presence of Giants or Hybs in alarms. Hel rifle are used for Charger levels

[sharp owl]

Yes it is

Ovl grab data sphere starts shadow error
Secondary grab 2 ids
Main collect glps starts error as well

[lofty grotto]

Hmm damn ok. Two errors. That sounds very rough

[lofty grotto]

Wait. Is the GLP objective the same as R7C1 where it ends upon gathering all of em?

[wraith marsh]

no

and the error is only on touching extract for main

[sharp owl]

Ah

But it goes secondary ovl main

[lofty grotto]

Ah ok

What about R4 C3?

[slate chasm]

when do i need the burst machine gun?

[normal lake]

which gun exactly

burst machine gun could be a lot of guns

[slate chasm]

5 round burst machine gun its a special weapon

[normal lake]

oh burst cannon

yeah its good for boss type enemies but beyond that i wouldnt even bother

unless you are really fuckin good at recoil control

and even then a lot of levels dont have enough giants or hybrids to justify it

[slate chasm]

it needs over penetration

[normal lake]

that would be a bit op

[slate chasm]

but yeah hybrids i think u got it

[normal lake]

funny but very op

overpenetration is good on guns where you have enough control to make use of the overpenetration

then you got burst cannon where you are lucky to even land 4/5 on the burst

[slate chasm]

a hallway it would save the team alot ammo

[wraith marsh]

it used to

not as much anymore

[normal lake]

yeah if the enemies are dense enough to take the damage but at that point your better off with other weapons

its niche is so strange

[junior latch]

its not a gun thats supposed to be super efficient lol

just reduce the recoil again and let it be the easy giant answer while being good vs chargers and great vs bosses

[normal lake]

it really is great at killing bosses but its also competing with sniper which is just more consistent against giants and hybrids

[tame mountain]

is the accrat nd5 any good

[normal lake]

that and you dont have to be point blank to land your hits with sniper unlike burst cannon

[junior latch]

The what

[junior latch]

Thats just the recoil issue

[normal lake]

yeah i know but if we gonna talk about a gun might aswell talk about its current state

controlling that recoil is a fuckin joke

[slate chasm]

thats where the buff could make it more utility based still good but now in the right hands it could give the team an edge

[normal lake]

yeah its not a bad gun its just really hard to use in its current state and is very niche

[junior latch]

pen is not a utility buff

Its just straight up a power amp

[normal lake]

oh i thought he was refering to a buff to recoil not pen

[junior latch]

the gun was the most broken gun just 2 major patches ago

[normal lake]

yeah penetration would still be overkill

[junior latch]

just revert recoil

but that will probably take 4 rundowns at least

considering thats how long it took for HAR

[sharp owl]

Main bring fog turbine to extract
Secondary 2 cell cluster Gen makes fog non infectious
Ovl Hsu error

[normal lake]

to bad that will never happen

[jade iron]

heavy smg? (nobody knows the nerd names)
and no, pdw outstats it in just about every regard that matters
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JgIVxWac3LVQvO5btULhpdlYU_Dfe2x2ZxdcQ8-Uy8I/edit#gid=1513327600

damage per round, dps, damage per mag, damage per refill, realistic efficiency into everything, hipfire accuracy, reload time

heavy smg gets 2m more range before dropoff begins, that's unlikely to matter and probably doesn't even do much to help heavy smg catch up to pdw on damage at range

[lofty grotto]

Jesus ok

[sharp owl]

Secondary ovl main
Secondary will make ovl foggy hard to see

[lofty grotto]

Ah ok

[reef siren]

@finite shale are you joining

[finite shale]

ye, just working with my mic rn

do u have one tho?

[reef siren]

i do but its 2 am and i need to be quiet

[finite shale]

fair

[split onyx]

🐈

[signal plaza]

hell naw have you ever done just OL?

basically impossible

it’s full infectious fog

@lofty grotto secondary makes the rest of the level a lot easier

because it doesn’t just make the fog non infectious, it removes it altogether

[sharp owl]

That's what I said 🤔

[little ridge]

HSMG

[little ridge]

Not him but I also have trouble understanding what you meant with "secondary ovl main secondary"

AFAIK R4C3 Extreme gets rid of fog (kinda) and makes it non-inf

I'll be sincere I never tried Overload only but I'd wager it'd be the same if not harder than PE so it doesn't have a sense imho

[mint light]

It also raises the fog into ovl.

If you do ovl first there ain't no fog there

[little ridge]

Didnt know that

[mint light]

But still I rather have a foggy ovl than an error throughout main and sec instead of main only

So sec first

good

[signal plaza]

yeah that error drains ammo

[signal plaza]

it’s like very thin fog then right?

like R7D1 OL fog

[sharp owl]

Order of objectives and what secondary does
Figured that having it under would be an indicator that it's start of a new thought

[mint light]

pretty thick actually

[signal plaza]

from what I remember it’s very easy to see in overload after you did secondary

[mint light]

when in hsu area yes, cause they lower. not in first area and when fighting tank

but feel free to drop in and go check 🙂

[signal plaza]

ahh right

that would make sense yes

[sharp owl]

It lowers it to tank lvl yes

[signal plaza]

nah makes it higher then

because tank lvl is above infect fog lvl

even hsu lvl is slightly above infect fog lvl I believe

only main dips into infect fog

[sharp owl]

Been a while I don't remember properly

[signal plaza]

there’s just the one zone

that connects main, secondary and the start

I believe Z151

filled with spitters and fog

[sharp owl]

Can't remember zone number I hated that lvl with a burning passion then I discovered r4d2

[coarse grail]

try #lfg-beginners, also read #how-to-matchmake

[signal plaza]

b-but

r4d2 is such a good level

[mint light]

it is quite fun indeed

[topaz ridge]

completed all the rundowns on main difficulty

im so proud of myself

[topaz ridge]

r7c2 is my fav

getting transported to a desert dimension is dope

[mint light]

now PE. on you go !

[mint light]

R7C2PE drags on a bit too much. but its quite good

[rose nova]

battery chargers

[topaz ridge]

nah im good

i already wasted 12 hours of my day

[jade iron]

I feel like r7c2 is quite a bit weaker without the overload woven into main

you go do a terminal command in each of the compass directions and bring back the cells

the way overload is woven in and working out what was going on in that level was the fun part imo

and then if you've done overload and main you may as well do secondary too

[little ridge]

I feel like that's true for a lot of levels tbh

Like R5B1

[jade iron]

ew

only reason to do that secondary is for completion screen ocd

[little ridge]

It's a boring secondary but consider someone who never did PE

[jade iron]

I don't know, skipping secondary at the end of r7c2 feels like you're cutting off a natural continuation

[grizzled bison]

It is NOT a seamless transition between optionals 👎🤢

[undone flare]

player

no u can't bombed our session can somebody bann him please?

i drop his steam name here

[little ridge]

2 Things, both bad news

1- 10CC cant steam ban people.

2- People can just change their steam name or their discord account.

[rose nova]

pls report em to @foggy plank with all the details if it happened on this server

and if u have their @

[grizzled bison]

Rundown 8 will feature shadow banning

Thank you devs 🙏

[undone flare]

you know what they can't? which is good news? i can look back on my recent players on steam 🙂

[grizzled bison]

The developers won't be able to do anything related to steam

[undone flare]

nope steam can bann him

[wicked solstice]

They can’t unfortunately

[scarlet tiger]

привет

кто может играть

я новичок

[undone flare]

i just don't get it why is somebody's nanopeepee make them feel like they need to do it

[fierce viper]

shadows are getting banned in R8? /s

[undone flare]

hope so.

[rancid galleon]

Don't have Twitter or other social media outside of Reddit. Do the devs do streams?

Hoping we get news on R8

[wet wigeon]

ку

напиши мне в личные сообщения, у нас пати, нам не хватает одного

[weak bronze]

yeah

[sharp owl]

bots are slow, more time to stealth and alarms, have to manage resources, make sure i dont die to some class 5-6-7-8 cluster alarm, fight a tank then go back in the fog get ovl and pray i dont die

[swift wyvern]

Who even does that

I mean- I do that- just not intentionally

(I am bad at video game)

[undone flare]

Yeah a guy with the name 'NO U CANT' came in randomly. Unsure how, we did not share the room code. He started to write nonsensical stuff in chat,then ran into a room guns blazing alerting everything. Then left.

[undone flare]

🫡

Streamed it all actualy 😆

[swift wyvern]

What did they even do?

Just dump ammo into walls or smth?

[swift wyvern]

Oh I see

Bro was off his rocker I guess

[undone flare]

You never know. Some ppl just like to feel important somehow.

[swift wyvern]

Why feel important when you can be important?

Touch grass and get a job

[analog flicker]

Me who touches grass. Has a job. Also no-lifes GTFO

[undone flare]

Maybe he stream sniped idk. Only like 20 ppl watching GTFO on twitch at all times 😅

[swift wyvern]

"life is not worth living"
"😳 Omgsh animal crossing 👉👈"

[analog flicker]

[swift wyvern]

How can you no-life gtfo if you have a job

I feel like that's oxymoronic

(I am telling you to quit your job)

[analog flicker]

I get home. Play gtfo til like 2AM. Get ready for work 3AM

Type shit.

[undone flare]

Well .... i work 45-60 hours a week. No social life. Most of my,actual human interaction comes from streaming,gaming. 😂

[swift wyvern]

No sleep?

[analog flicker]

On average. I get 1-3 hours of sleep

Sometimes no sleep

[swift wyvern]

Jeez dude

Bro's gonna have dementia in his 50s

[undone flare]

What is sleeping?

[analog flicker]

Well to be fair. On weekends/days off work. I sleep the usual time I would be working

And continue gtfo gaming schedule

[swift wyvern]

That doesn't sound healthy

Ngl fam

[wraith marsh]

10pm-2am prime gtfo gaming time

[pine root]

I am going for the world record

Dementia in my teens

[swift wyvern]

You can have dementia in your teens for free

Just be constantly drunk

[pine root]

Winning

That is what I call it

[swift wyvern]

Well I say free but it'll probably cost you $6-10 a day

[robust dawn]

what is shadow banning

[wraith marsh]

in what context

discord?

[robust dawn]

gtfo context someone said theyll add it in update 8 ?

[wraith marsh]

huh

they were probably making a joke

[sharp owl]

shadow banning is basically making someone hidden from public meaning less people see the person's posts and wont get recommended in any way tho people who are following or subscribed to that person will still see what they do

[pine root]

Oh noo no one wants to interact with my post I must be shadow banned definitely not anything else

[sharp owl]

post more feet pics it'll get some attraction

[normal lake]

im gonna duo some of r5, any levels that i should note that are bad for duo

[serene berry]

C3 is going to be a rough duo

[normal lake]

gotcha

will ignore that level than

[short coral]

Hes so me

[analog flicker]

JISH FEET? WHERE?

[sharp owl]

i guess so but it shouldnt be all that bad if only main
pe thats a notch

[analog flicker]

[normal lake]

prob not doing any pe today gonna save that for when we have the full group

[sharp owl]

then it'll be very easy

[short coral]

Whats r5c3 again

I don rememer

[sharp owl]

a particular webpage

[short coral]

Isbthat the data orb pe?

[normal lake]

just making sure no levels are a pain in the ass to do duo for any weird reason

[sharp owl]

well not pe only secondary

[short coral]

Idk remmeber

[sharp owl]

secondary is the good luck

[short coral]

Rip

[sharp owl]

2 2 terminal uplinks and secondary data sphere error fun stuff

[short coral]

YEAH

[serene berry]

C3 main is ||two corrupted uplinks||, which kinda sucks duo, but ya the secondary extraction with only 2 isss, sketch

for R5,
idk what A1 is, A2pe is a great duo, A3pe is easy but a slog
B1 main should be a blast, B2 main boring but pe sucks, B3 also a blast duo, idk B4
C1 fun brutal for duo, C2 main is good, C3 main will be awkward
don't play D1, D2 Brutal
E1 Brutal

[burnt flume]

A1 in terms of duo or in terms of objective?

[serene berry]

duo i think

[burnt flume]

it should be pretty easy

[vagrant veldt]

Someojne say feet?

I am here.

[normal lake]

lmfao dont play d1

gotcha

[sharp owl]

do bots use the whole 12 blob charge of cfoam when foaming doors?

[wispy bluff]

Yes, they full charge it before using it

[sharp owl]

shit

[normal lake]

opinions of double tap rifle

[junior latch]

hard to learn, hard to master

[wispy bluff]

I used it like once. Kinda like it. I'm very into burst fire weapons and ability to one-burst a biter is pretty neat. Looks cool too, like the scope.
But again - used it once on release and kinda couldn't find an excuse to use it ever since.

[junior latch]

can be pretty insane ammo wise. Generally not bad for sure

[wispy bluff]

Its like a weird missing link bettern DMR and Burst Rifle

looks like former, handles like latter

[mystic moss]

i think it's a good option if you want to have ammo efficiency(/) and burst damage on demand

[signal plaza]

2 person secondary error is full on RNG or you have to be a god at kiting

[junior latch]

its the usual. Hope it spawns behind

then close doors

[signal plaza]

yep

[junior latch]

just clear it once to force (gamble) behind spaws

[signal plaza]

and if you get front spawns find a way to get them behind you because if you fight them you lose too much time

very similar to R4D2 tbf

[normal lake]

tryn it rn havent decided my opinion yet

[junior latch]

i dont like it personally

the payoff is only there if you are omega insane

otherwise its a „do you like it or not“ situation

[mystic moss]

dtr is pretty dependent on enemy pathing and stances for maximum efficiency
moreso enemy pathing cause it's pretty hard to land the OHKO if enemies are strafing instead of running in a straight line

[signal plaza]

it’s amazing if you get consistent two taps but very punishing if you don’t get it

because firing 4 bullets per striker is just costly on it

[signal plaza]

yep

I can see it being good for reactors and chargers

because it does have that burst damage

but your mag is kind of on the small side

[junior latch]

Dtr if every enemy was a crawling striker

[junior latch]

its rly just a „liking it“ situation at that point

cuz carbine and hel revo hard outclass it if you arent going for its efficiency

[signal plaza]

hel revo probably even outclasses it in efficiency

if you’re good enough to use dtr for ammo efficiency you’re good enough to line up your hel revo shots

[junior latch]

yep

thats just hel revo things

[signal plaza]

shame but true

[normal lake]

tbf what guns do those 2 not outclass in pretty much all situations

[signal plaza]

fair point

hel shotgun

[junior latch]

hel shotty
Dmr
Pdw

uh hel pp

[signal plaza]

I’d say DMR loses out to hel revo more often than not

[wispy bluff]

is HEL PP like a meme or you people genuinely telling me it got bonkers damage per refill?

[normal lake]

hel shotty is very situation dependant aswell

[signal plaza]

I disagree since you’re most likely running it with a fake secondary as well

[junior latch]

idk bout that. Id argue hel revo just wins harder

Efficiency
Pen
Bette reload cancel

vs

Higher precision (shooter 1 tap)
More range
Bigger mag

[signal plaza]

you can use hel shotty as your special and pick a main special weapon

[junior latch]

huh. I wasnt talking dmg per refill

Carbine and hel revo just dont come close on its stagger potential at all

[signal plaza]

like har or revolver

[junior latch]

and comparing revolver to a main is unfair af

[normal lake]

man dtr does not feel good

[signal plaza]

read back

[junior latch]

i remember when zander forgot to nerf revolver when they put it as a main

was funny

[signal plaza]

I’m talking about using hel shotty like a special

and then using your special shot for a fake main

[junior latch]

huh i was going off that argument supporting it

[signal plaza]

ohh fair

ahhh

I thought you implied I was comparing them

mb

[signal plaza]

that range would probably be the main one for me

hel revo still one taps a shooter pretty consistently

[junior latch]

shooter 1 tap is the common reason youd choose dmr over revo

[junior latch]

it doesnt… unless you occi lol

[signal plaza]

huh?

[junior latch]

yea

[signal plaza]

I’m playing too much modded

[junior latch]

only dmr 1 taps

Dtr, carbine and burst rifle „kinda“ do with 1 burst. But those range from rough to improbable

[signal plaza]

8.01 damage

ahhhh

[normal lake]

yeah dtr is just not a satisfying gun to use so i prob wont use it again

[signal plaza]

it just misses the breakpoint

shiii

29.6 damage on shooter

💀

for some reason I thought shooter had 25hp

[wispy bluff]

Wait really? it cant one-burst the thing?

Weird

[serene berry]

oof

[wispy bluff]

Oh well, i guess its fair. Don't wanna leave leave DMR without a job, makes sense that you can one-burst biters and not the "command variant".

[humble chasm]

could someone help me, im new to discord, i would like to create an invite for Beginners, R1A1 but theres no "create voice channel" button

[normal lake]

i will not be using this weapon again

[wispy bluff]

You're not meant to create a voice-channel, you're meant to use one of the 200 that already exist.

[humble chasm]

ah ok

[wispy bluff]

"Voice channels | 181-200" etc

Just join any room, copy the link for it and post it in your message

[humble chasm]

yeah but ill get kicked cause its my 2nd game

[wispy bluff]

wha

what do you mean

[humble chasm]

since im a beginner, ill pretty much suck 😄

[wispy bluff]

#lfg-beginners exist

[humble chasm]

so can i post a message there?

[wispy bluff]

Yes, of course. Something like:

LF3 - R1 - A1
New player, wanna take it slow.
[lobby code]
[voicechat link]

As according to #how-to-matchmake

[humble chasm]

ah ok, thats what i didnt get, so i take an empty channel and post the message

got it

thx 🙂

appreciated

[junior latch]

Double tap can… we were talking hel revo

[signal plaza]

nah this was abt hel revo

[wispy bluff]

Oh, i lost the plot

Still fair

You can rush in and smack it with a knife quick stab

[normal lake]

@humble chasmdont do a lobby in a general voice channel

[humble chasm]

yep dont worry

going to channel 43

[signal plaza]

good luck comrade

[normal lake]

fuckin finally doing r5 and bots didnt wanna stand in the fucking team scan in the class s 3 alarm in a1 like bitches

[wispy bluff]

smacks lips
Great start.

[normal lake]

bots literally make any team scan harder

worthless fucks

just make them not required to stand in the circle ffs

[wispy bluff]

Interestingly it has been a while since they failed me on this front

[normal lake]

decided to have a bot for the second class s 3 alarm and they did the same thing

not even a turret or anything near the circle

bots just suck

[wispy bluff]

Yeah...

[normal lake]

annoying when it happens at the end of a level even if its a a tier map its still annoying to even have the chance of redoing 30 minutes of a map for no reason

[sharp owl]

GTFO eating my frames at the start of each game:

[wispy bluff]

Yeah...

[rose nova]

loading screen :3

[signal plaza]

cpu go woosh

if you track your preformance

you can see

[cedar iris]

r1b1 any1?

[signal plaza]

20 20 30 100 100 100 100%

it do the funny load

[rose nova]

hello, u can find n share lbbies in the LFG channels

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[leaden idol]

when r6 coming?

[sharp owl]

in no more than 6 months

[leaden idol]

are you serious? every rundown comes out 1-2 mounth

[rose nova]

summer vacation from the devs, but we dont know, might b next month or so

[rough robin]

its usually taken just shy of two months from previous

no idea how much vacation affects it

[normal lake]

people here like to shit on the devs at every turn good chance it will be like 3 months this time tho cus vacation

iirc r2 rerelease or r3 not sure took a extra month or two

[sharp owl]

r2 i believe

[vestal crystal]

R6 maps are already done though

[wispy bluff]

No, they're memeing probably. So far every alt release was 2-3 months and yes, R6 is kind already in the game.

Currently devs have 2 options:
Option 1: Simply check some boxes to unlock rundown 6, maybe add some new lore lags and change enemy composition there and there.
Option 2: Reroll R6 maps same way they rerolled everything else for the sake of it.

Honestly i hope they do the latter. I want to experiencing the joy of things being not quite as i remember.

[sharp owl]

wasnt the idea of rerolling the maps to just have em to r6-r7 standard?

also they have to model new cosmetics

[wispy bluff]

I honestly have no idea, but once again it would very weird thing to do to have 7 fucking rundowns where:

• 1 is "pure"
• 5 are "close enough"
• and one is "eh, we got lazy"

[rough robin]

you mean change the color index

[vestal crystal]

LMAO

[wispy bluff]

I want recoloured scoprion, nopefully its blue or military green

[rough robin]

more camo clothes, the only good reskins theyve done

camo puffer jacket

now I too can be the 400lb uncle in cabelas

[sharp owl]

truly

laziness

when i did r5c2 i got the twinblade mask variation that is supposed to be exlusive to r6.5

[rough robin]

i got that in r4 too

that got released into general pool i suppose

I hope they do the same for the old sec/OVL cosmetics

I want that red/blue color

[sharp owl]

i fucking struggled through R3B2 with bots just to get a reskin of R1 completion helmet i alr had

[rough robin]

I really don't like that they chose the rundown completion helmets to reskin

they could've chose literally anything else

[sharp owl]

r6 sector palletes were the FIRE🔥

[rough robin]

but the one set of cosmetics with any meaning, they reskin

[rough robin]

they better bring them back im jonesin for em

[sharp owl]

secondary objective pallete in r6 looked epic af

[rough robin]

thats the one im thinking of

the red and blue

goes HARD

[sharp owl]

Hard like R4C1 with bots

[rough robin]

secondary sounds awful with bots just cause they don't. shoot too good sometimes

for the tank i'd just trip mine him if you arent already

[sharp owl]

if u wanna play with bots just get better bots mod, dont torture yourself

[sharp owl]

you mentioned mods in official gtfo server?
you will be now punished by server mods smashing your nuts with a sledgehammer

[rough robin]

20dmg lol bozo survived

[sharp owl]

😔

[sharp owl]

the bulkhead hub room makes their pathing kill itself

instead of going the fastest way they go to the entrance and only then to the tank room side

[rough robin]

the bots pathing or the tanks?

[sharp owl]

bots

they run straight into the horde

[rough robin]

thats why you gotta make tank go boom

[sharp owl]

yea but his room has class 3 alarm on the door

and you need bots to complete the scan

[rough robin]

yeah you just gotta hope their sentries do enough

two shotty + bot bio should suffice

or two burst

[sharp owl]

wait how many mines do i need to FUCK UP the tank

last run i tried i had 11 on the door

but we died b4 tank room opened up

[burnt flume]

7 to kill if you do it right

if you don't then rip

[sharp owl]

which lvl is this?

[sharp owl]

R4C1

[rough robin]

7 or 8 i think

[sharp owl]

ah

[rough robin]

i usually do 8 to be safe

[hard holly]

we need one italian guy for complete the squad

[sharp owl]

mines should be placed around the silver part of the security door, right?

[rough robin]

#gtfo-media message

tank murder ^

[sharp owl]

hey im new anyone wanna play?

fuck

#lfg-beginners

here

[burnt flume]

you can do it wherever, on the door itself or bait it into some mines elsewhere

[sharp owl]

and i just join these group voice chats?

[rose nova]

hello nono

read rule 7 of the server :3

[burnt flume]

.t lfg

[rose nova]

join through their invites in the LFG channels

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

those !

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[burnt flume]

that's some information, you should also grab access to every channel from the Channels & Roles section at the top of the server

[rough robin]

Bat damage 12 --> 15

Opinions?

[sharp owl]

well that would make it good vs chargers but hammer still too good

also hitbox is whatever

[rough robin]

Would also reduce the charge % to kill smalls

Wonder if it would overshadow knife then, though

[sharp owl]

you still have to hit head or back and with how the swing goes u still could fk up

[rough robin]

doing the math it would in fact overshadow knife

[normal lake]

yeah bat would def outclass knife if that was the case but knife is still always the best boy no matter how much devs fuck it over

[rough robin]

love the knife but have sadly began to succumb to sledgehammer

[normal lake]

yeah sledge outclasses it in everything but speed

[rough robin]

its shocking how much easier the game gets

[normal lake]

with knife you can solo groups of 8+ with barely any practice but the moment a giant exist its gg

meanwhile sledge can also do large groups but takes a lot more practice and working with the groups but giants are piss easy

[sharp owl]

y-yeah

i too can take on 8 teutonic knights at the same time

[normal lake]

not a reference i get unfortunately

[sharp owl]

awww cmooon

use your big brain

[normal lake]

yeah after a google i should have known that

i know more obscure shit like the swiss guard but not that kek

[sharp owl]

oh ok, ill go back to my crusade history corner

[normal lake]

i have a full crusader uniform i really should have gotten it

brain rot is killing me

anyways bouta do the error in r5b3 so ill be back later

[sharp owl]

see ya

[normal lake]

sawed off is banger against chargers

also will send pics later

if you die on a ladder while holding the fog turbine it still works

interesting

[robust gull]

fun party trick

use the spear for a year and then try to use a knife

[gaunt inlet]

Sawed-off supremacy 🙏

[normal lake]

bro everyone flexing carabine and hel revolver but the real king of main weapons is sawed off

[robust gull]

its all fun and games until shit host connection gives you cancer

[hasty nexus]

is there a way to turn off the menus moving with your mouse?

a little nauseating

[sharp owl]

im not sure about that

[hasty nexus]

what about the chromatic aberration?

i have the film grain turned off but the chromatic aberration is still there

[unreal mantle]

whats the least used main weapon anyone know ?

[sharp owl]

Id say maybe pistol or machine pistol or auto pistol

[rough robin]

can't remember the last time ive seen a mf bring pistol

[unreal mantle]

besides the pistols 💀

[rose nova]

sawed off?

assault rifle?

[sharp owl]

Sawed off is actually used

Assault rifle is prolly the most used

[unreal mantle]

heavy smg ?

carbine ?

[thick temple]

carbine????

[rose nova]

carbine is excessively used

:]

[thick temple]

not many more wrong answers there yeah

[rose nova]

hravy smg ive seen people

...

[thick temple]

i'd probably say smg aside from training

[rose nova]

oh yeah so why u askin that :3

[unreal mantle]

okay well whats least used then besides the pistols

[rose nova]

we dont, have an aswer probs

[thick temple]

very arbitrary distinction there

[rose nova]

its so subjective

[sharp owl]

Maybe bullpup

[rose nova]

newies use it a lot

and it appeared on the top 3 most used

[unreal mantle]

theres a top used tier list ?

[rose nova]

it was released a while ago

idk how accurate it is

[thick temple]

^ just the top 3 of each category i think

[rose nova]

nor is it the 'best weapons'

lemme get the link

#community-news message

boop

this was before some guns

and some rundowns

[gilded sinew]

just spent 3 hours on R1C2 to fail right before we hit zone 100 😦

[robust gull]

holy mother of god

[gilded sinew]

is it supposed to be that long LOL

[robust gull]

not at all

[gilded sinew]

I gotta do some more studying it appears

[robust gull]

granted my knowledge of level length is heavily influenced but

the longest level for me is probably like 2 hours on certain PEs'

r7c2

*in pubs

are you playing with bots or people?

[gilded sinew]

my friends but most of them are new as well

(all)

[robust gull]

hmm. keep at it.

don't get discouraged by what i say, give it a few dozen hours and it will snap into place a little better

i presume it is stealth eating up most of your time because you are over-coordinating and overthinking

[gilded sinew]

probably I mean we crawwllleeed thru most of the level

struggling to handle scouts too

[sharp owl]

Yeah it tends to happen part of the learning process

[robust gull]

general rule of thumb you can kill 2 by yourself risk free. the wake up animations are very generous

so a group of 4 can take just 2 people when you're new

[gilded sinew]

interesting

thank you

[robust gull]

you guys all using sledgehammers?

or are people using knives and stuff

[gilded sinew]

nah I been playin around with all of it. I was just runnin the knife

I played way back in like rundown 1 and 2 but its so different

[robust gull]

oh, your mileage will vary then

knife can kill like 4 smalls by yourself without a wakeup

scream

[gilded sinew]

no way

[robust gull]

if you hit all headshots. but i'm lazy and use a sledge

[gilded sinew]

we just seem to wake them up when we try and go faster

especially if theres chargers and big boys and scouts

and R1C2 had waaaay more chargers than I remember

[robust gull]

unfortunately even if you specifically have the knowledge you are still limited by your friends knowledge.

[gilded sinew]

im not blaming them at all my knowledge is still similar to theirs

just a little more

[robust gull]

nah i am not saying to blame them, i just mean stealth flows better as you get a feel for your group's pacing and since they're all new that will change frequently. quickly too

some of my mates will hear me solo hammer a giant and react fast enough to come help me without a word spoken half the time

that is arrogance on my part because then i play a pub and i wake up rooms with unrealistic expectations

[gilded sinew]

can they sprint?

[robust gull]

your friends?

[gilded sinew]

yeah like if you hit a bigg do they sprint over or just hurry

[robust gull]

sprinting is a hard alert, instant wake-up. walking is a soft alert. progresses the sleepers to the next stage

eh, depends really

[gilded sinew]

i see

[robust gull]

anyways keep at it i'm sure you'll do better next time, for sure

[sharp owl]

If there are nearby enemies it's better to walk toward the big if no enemies around run toward the big

[pine root]

No

[sharp owl]

Just make sure you land your hit before he takes you downtown

[pine root]

Pls don’t run towards big

[pine root]

That is how you wipe a team

[robust gull]

yeah basically you can just walk until you hear clicking, thats how you know you're in distance of a sleeper. then shift to crouch. crouching/standing up will progress the sleeper to a pulsate phase probably if you already roused him with walking. don't panic

[gilded sinew]

interesting

[robust gull]

great easy way to start saving time. squeezing in more attempts

[gilded sinew]

I see

[sharp owl]

Thought he was talking about an alerted giant don't mind me

[robust gull]

i will be sure to make your next r7e1 interesting if you tell people to not wipe teams again

the NERVE

[merry sluice]

What you dont just run at giants Michael Jordan hop and smash them? Ive been playing wrong.

😛

[pine root]

If you run at sleeping giants and miss you bait out a melee and mostly likely your team is following you up

Then everyone takes 80

Can’t quickly make things go wrong

[robust gull]

alright that's it, your house, august 18th 9:42am will be a very interesting time

[pine root]

Tbh it is the most consistent wipe I get

[merry sluice]

Ya I only do it with my friends and we're coordinated Id never do it with a PUG

[pine root]

Yeah even with friends it can wipe a team

[wraith marsh]

when someone sprint at the bbc

and he do the 180 instantly

peak gtfo

[robust gull]

i find it wholesome when the giant im walking towards spins around because someone miles behind me and i lose the funny back damage bonus

[sharp owl]

Scariest line

[pine root]

Sprints at shadow giant in inqacision

Funny funny

[wraith marsh]

shadow giant sprints back

[pine root]

Teleports behind you

[wraith marsh]

im ngl shadow giants are about the only thing im not comfortable meleeing in this game

even in vanilla

[merry sluice]

I hate them

[robust gull]

falls to the ground, forcing you to walk through the collision box and be slowed down while it recovers and counters with 80 damage windmill technique

[merry sluice]

With a passion

[pine root]

I worked on meleeing them for a bit.

[robust gull]

tactical gaming

[sharp owl]

Hard to see, unpredictable movement fast and angry

[pine root]

It is honestly just not a good idea

[analog flicker]

I have sprinted at a BBC before with a IIX syringe and Jumped through 180 occi hit with hammer

[pine root]

Cool stuff

[analog flicker]

I was actually amazed I didn't get 0 framed

[wraith marsh]

did he queue your teammate or were you host

it had to be one of them

[analog flicker]

none of my teammates were close

[pine root]

Might have started scream right away

[wraith marsh]

true

[pine root]

This doesn’t always matter

[robust gull]

i wonder if shadows all being reused strikers including the scouts is intentional or laziness

[pine root]

Ie see bread clip

[merry sluice]

I play with prob like 100 + ping. So I heard that helps. My friends are EU and always host,

[analog flicker]

was responding to stuff to other thing mis-read

[robust gull]

on one hand it is fascinating to see giants crouched over but on the other hand its kinda cancer in gameplay

[pine root]

They took shadow

[wraith marsh]

the crouching is fine tbh

its the falling over

[pine root]

Then made the model bigger

[wraith marsh]

with no get up animation

[pine root]

Then gave it scout animation

[robust gull]

modders jealous you don't have the creative ingenuity???

BURRRRRRN

they slaved away at the computer that day trust

[pine root]

Well it is how I made a flyer scout

Scaled up flyer gave it the scout role

[merry sluice]

Can we get a mod that removes Bio Scan CD like Bots 😦

[wraith marsh]

its called boosters

[sharp owl]

30% tracker cpu speed

[pine root]

You just mean it finishes scan faster?

[wraith marsh]

that is also called boosters

👍

love when discord defaults to an emote ive never used over one I use a lot

thanks discord

[merry sluice]

The 8.5 sec CD before use again.

[pine root]

Oh bio tracker

Na bio tracker is better in human hands anyways

So much information is just wasted with bots

[merry sluice]

True. Bots just great for error alarms.

Esp when your friend keeps forgetting to ping :{

[last parrot]

bots suck for error alarms

especially ones that are manageable

they just become an additional timer but on ammo

[rough robin]

yeah

[merry sluice]

I mean for scans. Not for actually killin them

Nothin worse than when your buddy forgets to scan errors waves in pure fog like R7B3 get out.

Dont gotta worry about that ever with a bot

[mint cargo]

When starting the game, how do I progress, which is considered the 'first' rundown and mission?

[thick temple]

r1a1 generally

[robust gull]

its amusing to think of this but

how much would the required terminal command on r7a1 bring it down on the noob-friendliness scale?

[signal plaza]

depends on the mission if you ask me

bots will never fail to ping something

[robust gull]

because i think every new player i've played with rushes to the terminal behind them and not to the security door with the terminal inside and are just confused

[signal plaza]

and I have a severe case of bio blindness

[rough robin]

rundown 1

[signal plaza]

(I can only see biotracked enemies)

if we have a three stack we usually end up giving the bot the bio unless we play a level with either shadows or important stealth rooms

(shadows = sleeping shadows)

[junior latch]

would be fixed if training had a better terminal tutorial tbh

[signal plaza]

they should make more tutorials perhaps

i’m not sure about that though

that’s controversial to say of me

because it is one of those games which is supposed to be blind

[robust gull]

maybe, but training isn't an appealing option anyways

realistically, if we presume the game is purchased as intended, four excited mates get it and are not enticed to try the single player "training" because they want to share an eager first experience with eachother

i'm not sure what the new player experience realistically is like though lately

[sterile hamlet]

New player experience is
Game looks cool
Don't have any friends to play it with
Ask around on discord and get told to use the lfg
Use the lfg
Proceed to not have fun because everyone is awkward and no one knows how to communicate

[rough robin]

thats why you have to bully every friend you know into getting it

[sterile hamlet]

I've already given all of them ptsd

They don't want to touch this game anymore

Weak peasants

[rough robin]

yellow bellies

[sharp owl]

Did they happen to bé unathletic

[sterile hamlet]

The only friend that i have that actually wants to keep playing goes to a gym pretty regularly

Sadly they don't really know what "a slow and prepared approach" means though

[sharp owl]

I liké it

Go hard

Never stop

[sterile hamlet]

The thing is

They go hard, but not hard enough to not go home

[sharp owl]

Feel free to give him a push

Go beyond your limits

[sterile hamlet]

Still

It's only one friend

[sharp owl]

Drag some random from lfg and Ask where they live

[signal plaza]

then let them die in fog

[viral bolt]

What is a class 5 M alarm?

[fair loom]

mixed

different scan types

5 scans total

[sterile hamlet]

R4A1 is NOT easy alone

I really need more friends to play this with :c

[sharp owl]

skill issue

[sterile hamlet]

Yes

I can fix the skill issue by throwing more people at it

[junior latch]

no thats just ignoring the skill issue

[sterile hamlet]

Why does this server have original twitch emotes

[robust dawn]

not from this server

[sterile hamlet]

Ew nitro

[bleak prism]

I wish fog didnt infect me 😦

It's so prohibitive

But I guess thats the point

[robust dawn]

u cant hold your breath

[bleak prism]

yeah I just want the fog and not the infection

[jade iron]

level designs are much more likely to treat infectious fog as a moat you're not meant to traverse, or give you tools to traverse it (turbine, repellers)

it's when the fog isn't infectious that they're more likely to make you actually fog dive

[sterile hamlet]

There are many expeditions that have security scans in pee fog

[junior latch]

honestly, fog turbines are the weakest part of infectous fog

[junior latch]

is there any that dont have repellers or a turbine tho?

[sterile hamlet]

If you want to say something, say it directly, not with passive aggressiveness

[junior latch]

where is anything i said passive aggressive

[sharp owl]

its not pee fog its spicy fog

[junior latch]

i think theres only 1 alarm that has no fog repellers or turbine with infectous fog

R7C2, but that one slowly rises so that you can 100% avoid it. Otherwise it always gives you some way to deal with it i think?

Still, fog turbine sucks to use for those. I wish theyd use fog repellers more

[coarse solstice]

guys i’m soo happy i finished r2 yesterday

Today on to r3 but i heard it’s easier than r2 so big pog there

[sharp owl]

Less lvls and yes it is

[coarse solstice]

also less crispy fog i hope

[sharp owl]

Mmm yes many more kwispy fog

[signal plaza]

some of the levels intentionally put cluster scans in fog and give you no fog repellers

frustrating as fuck

you’re supposed to spread out yet you’re not supposed to take infection

only turbine

anyways

I would not mind more S alarms or m alarms with full teams and big scans in fog

because it makes turbine viable

adds a layer of complexity to the alarm

but split scans and clusters naaw

not when you don’t get enough fog repellers

anyways I would like them to add an exponential curve to infect fog

would be realistic

since your character should be able to hold his breath for at least a few seconds and thus avoid the infection if he’s not in the fog for too long

issue with that mechanic would be bhopping to get above the fog

so maybe link it to heartrate or something

like how in R6 siege you die faster from smoke’s gas if you get adrenaline surge from finka

because you breathe more

[sharp siren]

literally the reson why this isnt a thing

so complicated for something novel like that

[signal plaza]

it’s hard to implement and there’s already too many complex mechanics?

I mean I agree we don’t need a complex infection system

okay how about this

a bar like the mc drowning bar

[sharp siren]

how about

we optimize the game instead

and like add r8

that would be radical and cool

[signal plaza]

which drains quicker if heart rate is higher

[signal plaza]

culling🤢

[mint light]

culling the playerbase would be a good idea

[signal plaza]

physically you mean right?

me whacking sleeper heads:😎
the family when they find him in his bed:🙄

[toxic herald]

109775245052557205

[latent palm]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[mint light]

damn, you must be voting baudet

[signal plaza]

hell yeah

[rough robin]

impossible task

[brittle pier]

hello all 0/, complete noob here, looking to join a channel or players who'd be interested in showing me the ropes and turning me into the Chuck Norris of GTFO...a steer in the right direction would be appreciated, thank you 🙂

[normal lake]

#gtfo-chat message

unless you want to be carried i suggest asking for no carries

[latent spruce]

this game is flooded with troll team killers.. this is crazy

[normal lake]

and do #lfg-beginners

[brittle pier]

tyvm, this is exactly what I'm looking for, much appreciated.

[normal lake]

the moment extraction hits 80% its every man for himself and turns into a battle royal to be the only one who is not deceased in the end screen

[latent spruce]

I'm talking before extraction

I dont care about getting killed at extraction

[normal lake]

the wiki is your friend in cases where you are curious about something because asking here will only get either a meme awnser or a vet giving more information than you really wanted

but beware of spoilers

[normal lake]

welcome to any game with friendly fire

my suggestion is to make a group of players you enjoy playing with that way you dont have to do public lobbies or just find one or two people you like playing with since duo and trio is way easier to get a group for

[latent spruce]

yeah thats a good point. Can't trust anyone you don't know these days

[normal lake]

i dont play pubs because i got a group of 6 players including me who play together

[latent spruce]

friendly fire is one thing, killing your teammates to troll halfway through the level is another

[normal lake]

yep if it can be used to abuse another player it will be used to abuse another player

that or modders

[serene berry]

see? cheaters and trolls in every lobby, this guy gets it

[sharp owl]

what about killing teammates at 95% extraction scan

[analog flicker]

** IMPOSTER WINS **

[latent spruce]

that doesn't bother me, it's when you're halfway or more through then someone kills the team and starts a scan to throw the game. I've had it happen multiple times now, not sure why people do that. Specifically a player named "Quantum"

[torn flicker]

is it only the precision rifle that comes with a IR Scope?

[rose nova]

the PDW has a thermal too
...
idk what u mean by IR but i guess that right

[torn flicker]

Yeah thermal IR whatever you wanna call it xD and thanks!

[rose nova]

is ok

i dont like the thermals still but im startin to warm up to pdw

[torn flicker]

i'm trying it out for the first time haha i've been running Carbine and Mg's

im thinking it might be nice to have on foggy maps

[rose nova]

its pretty slick, but tbh it doesnt help with fog, more with darkness

cabrine bores me so much i cant even explain, its so dull i dont like it

[serene berry]

well then congrats! PDW fills a similar role as Carbine. with a thermal

[wispy bluff]

Unfrortunately fog counters thermals. Thermals help with darkness only, they will still get screwd over by thick enough fog.

[rose nova]

carbine is the pdw with a moustache
i cant explain it but it is

[last parrot]

darkness and the ||poltergeist||

[normal lake]

every main is just sawed off but worse

[hasty nexus]

was so close to beating my first expedition but i hit a sleeper when other sleepers were around it and we got overrun. You hate to see it

[merry sluice]

Did R7C1 1st try. That was fuckin intense.

[normal lake]

just hit the ones that wake up aswell ez win

[wispy bluff]

when that happens you just shoot

Unfortunately there is an annoying mechanic called "random long range wake up"

I'm not sure if its a mechanic, but its a thing that happens

[serene berry]

long range aggro

it is a mechanic

[normal lake]

its definitly not a bug because its been in the game for ages

[wispy bluff]

If its 2-3 guys together its fine - you just aim for the head and smack smack smack they're dead

[normal lake]

shit waking up for seemingly no reason might aswell be a mechanic

[wispy bluff]

But sometimes a random enemy from like 15 meters away who has a line of sight on your victim can wake up too

[rose nova]

[when its glowin]

[wispy bluff]

And chances are you don't have time to sprint over and shut it off before it screams

[torn flicker]

aw dangit! haha

[last parrot]

but killing the awakened in range of other enemies wont alarm any of them as long as you dont run or walk trigger them

[wispy bluff]

I can't tell if its intended mechanic or just the cringe implementation of their "half-alert state" where they GO INTO THE STATE but the animation didn't had enough time to show it, so you just frame-perfect kill something precisely when they start going semi-alert and that wakes them up

[serene berry]

ya those last two rooms are pretty crowded

[wispy bluff]

Wether intended or not - its cringe either way. Had a fair share of wipes or near-wipe situations because of that.

[normal lake]

the fact they are glowing is bullshit semi alert means nothing

you can move at the end of the glow animation and not wake them up

[wispy bluff]

The only reliable counter is bringing Long Range Flashlight and synchronising the little assholes and then do the kill the moment they all go back to sleep.

[normal lake]

and you can move when they are not glowing and your fucked

[hasty nexus]

yeah thats harder when you cant coordinate simultaneous hits with bots lol

[wispy bluff]

Yeah... They can still shoot okay though. They can handle smalls, but have problems with larger enemies.

[normal lake]

the problem as you get better at the game becomes less cordinating swings and more the fact they unload a clip into you the moment a sleeper moves

[last parrot]

ive been unloaded into even after i kill the thing

[hasty nexus]

yeah the shooting feels a bit weird in the game idk what it is

im used to playing other shooters but in GTFO its a little off somehow, cant really describe it

its not too terrible tho

[last parrot]

shooting is fine to me

[wispy bluff]

Either a performance or delayed frames issue

[last parrot]

very satisfying in my opinion

might be performance

[normal lake]

id say its cus the guns are oversized peashooters

but yea other than that they are fine

[hasty nexus]

this is true lol

[hasty nexus]

https://streamable.com/1n8o7y

its joever

[wispy bluff]

A classic

[normal lake]

most games ive seen shooter wise the guns are fuckin instakills on most enemies meanwhile gtfo it can take half your ammo to kill a handful of enemies

which is good ofc

not complaining its better that way imo

[wispy bluff]

Btw, sleepers take bonus damage when attack from behind as well as headshots. Combine both for maximum pain. You don't have to fully charge the attack - half-charge from behind (like 45 degrees) usually gets things done

[torn flicker]

What happend to R6? where is it? xD

[wispy bluff]

Long story, but basically the game used to work on some FOMO season-style model where they would REPLACE old campaign with old ones.

[torn flicker]

aah so after all the R6 kinda got lost in the mix?

[wispy bluff]

R7 was the last one to do that and replace R6.
Now we are slowly getting slightly changed remixes of first 5 rundowns back (hence the :ALT), and 6 is coming back in like a month or two.

[last parrot]

id recommend switching to either hammer or knife while you still have the chance

[torn flicker]

ooooh okay okay, thx for the info!

[last parrot]

knife can account for these kinds of wakeups with easy murder

hammer can kill giants a little bit easier than knife

[civic mesa]

Anyone know which map has a big square room with a checkpoint scanner and a optional room/ending?

[last parrot]

spear is just a slightly more ranged hammer with no sprinting which is a no-go in future expeditions

[civic mesa]

with a big reactor in the middle of the square room iirc

[last parrot]

and bat is stupid stupid stupid

[rose nova]

:[

skill issue

[serene berry]

good reason to not have spear, you can sprint and charge with the other 3 melees, and it makes recovering stealth possible

[wispy bluff]

I could still recover that with a spear

Just gotta get an occi with like 15-20% charge

They pop like baloons

now increase that range by like 100% more and then we might have a problem

[normal lake]

yeah but still not being able to sprint with spear makes it significantly worse as a baseline for this situation

[wraith marsh]

bro that mf is right next to them

recover is not even the right term here

[serene berry]

thats fair

[hasty nexus]

i just give myself and everyone spear since i see it used the most from what ive seen, and it has good range

[rose nova]

a square room with a checkpoint door?
i mean none have reactors, but i guess u just mean somethin funky in the middle so, maybe r7c2? i think its like a square and it has a generator cluster in the middle, tho idk if it has checkpoints but probably

[serene berry]

ya, if it hasn't screamed yet, you can still just go kill it

[last parrot]

you can give bots whatever you want for melee

its completely cosmetic for nonplayers

[serene berry]

and the rest of the room will stay asleep

[hasty nexus]

how

the other one woke up after i hit the one

[wispy bluff]

That's fine

its a domino effect

You kill guy 1 - guy 2 wakes up

That's not the problem

The problem is guy 2 screaming and alerting the others

which then wakes up the rest of the room

The goal is to kill him before he does that

[hasty nexus]

ah i see

[last parrot]

gonna be harder when its a shooter though

[hasty nexus]

yeah its harder when its just you and bots

[rose nova]

i mean bots usually do run in and try to kill it

[wispy bluff]

Spear is the worst melee, btw. Completely outclassed by hammer in literally everything but stab range (which is not really that important).
You can even stunlocks basic enemies by just swinging it wildly - they won't be able to do shit.

[last parrot]

• if a bot goes for a sleeper, its entirely incapable of waking up the room iirc

[serene berry]

ya a scream is a distinct animation that wakes up the entire room. every enemy has one

[hasty nexus]

do the big guys die in one hit to a hammer?

[rose nova]

yeah, even if it hits another sleeper by accident itll stay bugged

[rose nova]

nope

[wispy bluff]

No, but neither they do to the spear

[rose nova]

it needs 3 or so in the back

[wispy bluff]

No melee can oneshots giants, unless you stack like +50% melee damage boosters

[hasty nexus]

hitting one of the big guys will wake up the entire room right

[wispy bluff]

Not necesserily

[rose nova]

not necessarily

heyy

[wispy bluff]

This is actually something spear is sort of good for

You can stealth-solo giants

Starts with a stab to the back of the head, then go for the limbs

[last parrot]

but so can hammer

[rose nova]

usually when u hit a big u will stagger it, which gives u room to hit it more and stagger it again
if it stays a moment w/o staggerin, it might scream and then wake up the room

[wispy bluff]

Fully charged stabs break their hands and legs causing a forced stagger which prevents them from screaming

[rose nova]

also same thing for hammer, back of the head and go for the limbs

[wispy bluff]

Also bots will try to attempt to help you too

[normal lake]

dont rely on bots for anything or you will regret it

[rose nova]

skill issue

i kill bigs with bots all the time

with a bat

a bat

[normal lake]

i kill bigs all the time alone without bots

using a hammer like a normal person

[rose nova]

could u do it with a bat

[hasty nexus]

yeah i just kinda solo and use the bots to help with finishing off some guys or doing the hordes lol

[last parrot]

i do it with a knife

[normal lake]

rather be skilled enough to not need a inconsistent crutch personally

[rose nova]

yeah they pretty useful, i played with em probs too much

[normal lake]

bots are turrets that waste resources they get and shoot you more than enemies calling them anything else is lying

id rather have 2 sentries than 3 bots

[rose nova]

ok

bishi my beloved

:]

[last parrot]

bishop is cool

its dauda thats a troublemaker

[normal lake]

i violently murdered all the bots at the beginning of r5c3 than did everything but the alarms without them

[rose nova]

ok

[normal lake]

id rather have 2 dead bots than lose 3% hp to them being useless in a stealth section and shooting me

[rose nova]

eh i like em, its almost always the one that i give ammo to first cause, they r close

[last parrot]

i always have to give it to dauda first

because he shot an entire magazine into my face

[normal lake]

the only good bot is a dead bot

[rose nova]

shouldve stayed out of its way

[last parrot]

ill knife any guy that gets in my way

its called ammo saving

and he undermines me

[rose nova]

dauda was just tryin to save u but u stood in his way

[normal lake]

they can save me after i put a 50bmg round through there skull

[rose nova]

skill issue

u need saving

[normal lake]

bots are negative players

worse than nothing

real men go true solo instead of "solo"

[last parrot]

I'm on his side

if anyone goes down during an alarm

all the bots will pile up to revive that one guy

and get themselves killed

[rose nova]

so that means they got down first

[last parrot]

we lost an r2e1 run that way

[rose nova]

lmao

[last parrot]

final alarm too