gtfo-chat

[wicked solstice]

And stop shoving them

[gilded flame]

they'll defend that one use disinfect pack with their life

[rough robin]

bots should only automatically give you stuff if you're on 40% or lower, BUT the whole "I need ammo/health/etc" should actually work

because they ignore the commands

[wicked solstice]

That’s when I intentionally infect myself

[gilded flame]

yeah the "commands"

[wicked solstice]

So they use it

[swift wyvern]

It should be <70% outside of combat

[wicked solstice]

Nah

[gilded flame]

that's the thing though

[wicked solstice]

Bc some guns overfill between 70 and 60

[gilded flame]

I'm too lazy to run across the entire map just to sit in the fog for 5 seconds

[swift wyvern]

Like sniper?

[rough robin]

most guns give more than 30% special

[wicked solstice]

Bruh how are you in an infect level with no fog near

[wicked solstice]

A lot iirc

Most specials that I use

[swift wyvern]

Tbh I also hate when I have resource efficient

[gilded flame]

that's nice at least that they don't force the ammo upon you if it will overfill

[wicked solstice]

I think MG, scattergun, Burst can

[swift wyvern]

And then a bot will steal the 4 use ammo

And waste like, 60% charge

[gilded flame]

prove me wrong though cause I haven't had it to me at least

[wicked solstice]

Just steal it first

[gilded flame]

yeah just take it

with bots carrying ammo is your number one priority

them taking meds can be shrugged off and when they take tool refill it's not bad since you're the one calling out when to use the certain tool

[wicked solstice]

This

Ammo > tool > disinfect > meds

[gilded flame]

I'd put the disinfect lower than meds imo

it's at least nice that they use the disinfect when another pops a medi on you and the infection will chip away at your health

[wicked solstice]

It’s situational imo

[gilded flame]

yeaaah

[wicked solstice]

Disinfect can be higher prio than tool for me

[gilded flame]

Idk last time I needed disinfect really badly was on

[wicked solstice]

I needed it for R7C2 iirc

[gilded flame]

R3C3 I think?

[wicked solstice]

Bc I was trying to do it without bugging it for once

[gilded flame]

I've

never tried bugging honestly

[wicked solstice]

Nah i’m not talking 5/6

I mean the one where R7B3 deletes infection fog in other levels

:3

[gilded flame]

ah

haven't heard about that one till now

[wicked solstice]

It’s pretty funny

Die during a teleport for secondary

[gilded flame]

most of the bugs are funny I noticed

[wicked solstice]

All fog in your next level is replaced with alpha fog

I accidentally did it the first time I dropped R7C2

The second time I did it I was so confused bc there was suddenly infection

[gilded flame]

yeah a funky bug it is

the only time I had a bug occur to me

or at least I think it was the only time

was on R7B1 when I died with a friend and when we respawned at checkpoint on the door when you have to put the

collection case was it called

and when we respawned the door was neither open or closed and he spawned with the case in his hands

[wicked solstice]

Lol, fun fact for you

[gilded flame]

couldn't drop it, insert it or anything else

[wicked solstice]

GTFO is always bugged

[gilded flame]

even when downed he was still holding it lmao

[wicked solstice]

Heat bug

[gilded flame]

I've noticed some little ones

[wicked solstice]

I hate that bug

There’s a bug with the way enemies spawn

I don’t entirely understand it

[gilded flame]

I'll take a wild guess

the one that just spawns sleepers right on top of you?

[wicked solstice]

It’s something with Boss/MiniBoss status in waves

[wicked solstice]

No, it’s related to like enemy spawn weights

[gilded flame]

ah

you mean like

[wicked solstice]

I mean like what enemies spawn in a wave

[gilded flame]

oH

[wicked solstice]

And how waves with variance can break

Idk how it works

Mr BlackDragon understands it

I do not

[gilded flame]

never had that happen to me

yet

[wicked solstice]

You probably have tbh

And just haven’t known

[gilded flame]

well

either that or

[wicked solstice]

It’s not like super noticeable

[gilded flame]

it happened that many times I just started ignoring it

[wicked solstice]

From what I understand

[quartz cape]

🤓

[gilded flame]

or took it as normal

[pine root]

IT IS

once you know about it

[wicked solstice]

Yeah like sniper melee with my crew

LOL exactly like sniper melee

[wicked solstice]

Can you explain it?

I’m curious

[pine root]

so what happens is they way the game decides what sleepers to spawn is from the wave population data block. there are 5 roles 4 of which work

[wicked solstice]

Yeah Boss is broken

[pine root]

weakling standard special and mini boss

these roles have % chance to spawn based on the role

but there is a built in protection that you dont role 100 min bosses in a row.

that system is called heat and basically when things spawns in it becomes more likley everything else will

and it will become less likely it spawns it again

but the math is wrong!

if you play long enough mini boss special and standard will become void

[wicked solstice]

O_o

How long is long enough

[pine root]

it depends on teh wave

[wicked solstice]

huh ok

[frozen kite]

If it becomes void can you just get endless mini boss

Funny if so

[wicked solstice]

Nah endless weakling

[frozen kite]

Ah

[pine root]

all other % go to zero

so if you do r4e1 on a first lauch

the first few scans can spawn hybirds and bigs

[wicked solstice]

wait is heat cross level?

[pine root]

YEAH

THIS is the issue

[frozen kite]

Huh

My brain is struggling here since I wasn't at start of convo

Kind of sounds like 7dtd heatmap for enemy spawns

[pine root]

but if you change a 1 to a 25

it works perfectly

LOL

that is the only thing wrong wit the system

[frozen kite]

How does this game have so many long time bugs if the root cause is already known.

Same with the liquid on facemask bug

Making vision dark

[tight mica]

[rose nova]

is thr liquid one known
when devs speak about it they say is very hard to replicate

[wispy bluff]

SawedOff + HAR new favorite loadout

[wraith marsh]

that couldve been hel shotty,.,..,,.,.,.

[wispy bluff]

That's still decent too, but it just lacks the OOOMF of deleting a biter with a single shot. Pump action for primary, basically.

[rose nova]

a biter

i like that :]

[tribal bison]

Henlo!

[winter wraith]

helu

[rose nova]

hoi

[tribal bison]

Watcha all up to?

[rose nova]

being in the gtfo chat :D

[livid gulch]

a daring task for any mortal soul

[rose nova]

idk seems easy rn

[tribal bison]

Good thing they are immortal!

[green torrent]

why does early access color scheme make me look like a construction worker

[rose nova]

maybs u are a santonian miner :D

[tribal bison]

Construction workers are awesome though

[green torrent]

yeah i guess youre right

[heavy arrow]

Hey guys! I just found this game - huge fan of Co op type games like Darktide and such. Is there matchmaking in this game? None of my friends play. And is it still being updated?

Also I realize this game is more Stealth oriented.

[frosty abyss]

there is in-game matchmaking but theres some things to keep in mind about it, if there hasnt been an update recently, matchmaking across the board really dies down, and the in-game matchmaking in particular tends to be where the less cooperative/helpful/communicative players will tend to go, so its often hard to get a good game in there

[heavy arrow]

Ahh.

May not be the game for me then

[frosty abyss]

you can try in-game matchmaking, but the discord is where youd probably want to get games

[heavy arrow]

Hmmm

Okay cool thanks

[eternal minnow]

bruh, matchmaking sucks so now im here

[rose nova]

yeah its kinda stinky
but the LFG here is funks! :D

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[eternal minnow]

thank you champ

[rose nova]

its okii
good luck findin people!!

[visual jungle]

has anyone been able to duo r7c3

been getting some unlucky runs

[livid gulch]

its a grueling long level thats for sure

[eternal minnow]

the tutorial is grueling too, holy cow

[vestal crystal]

yes it has been done

[pine root]

The pe run can get a tad fucked on the hold section before first double uplink

[visual jungle]

thought so

just really unlucky then

[vestal crystal]

u mean the blood door part?

[pine root]

Yes

I generally mean the entire section before first uplink

[vestal crystal]

ah

[pine root]

After first uplinks you get to skip the wave it becomes easy

[visual jungle]

yes since i dont get an explosive trip mine half the time

[pine root]

do you mean the sealth blood door?

just place like 10 c foam trips

[jolly pawn]

does the bioscan speed booster increase biotracker speed or the door scan speed?

[rose nova]

bioscans, for the tracker i think it was 'tracker CPU speed'

if u hover over the booster

itll tell u what it does in more detail

hover with the mouse over like the text that says what it does i mean

[jolly pawn]

ooh okay thank you

[rose nova]

its okii

[visual jungle]

Ig the gist of that part of the level is use cfoam generously

[jolly pawn]

any advice for r2c2?

[pine root]

it is only 4 sleepers in the wave

just hammer them

[pine root]

Only 3 ids can spawn in a single zone you need seven and there are 9

[jolly pawn]

bro i been struggling so much

[pine root]

with what part

[jolly pawn]

idk just the whole mission its self

[pine root]

are you playing with other players

or just with bots

[jolly pawn]

people

[livid gulch]

"people"

[vocal ginkgo]

hi guys

i new and kinda stuck

at uh

in R1D1

any of you have tips for me?

[oblique anvil]

Any particular part that's holding you up?

Just for general tips the biggest one is if you think you can do the alarms without the resources from the side rooms then do the alarm before opening them. You can still get the resources after but doing it that way forces them to only funnel from one direction. And for this level one person with a precision rifle can be the difference maker for the final objective

[modern verge]

Are you playing alone with bots or with friends or lfg

[vocal ginkgo]

What is lfg

Bots

[vocal ginkgo]

Thx

[true pilot]

lfg stands for looking for a group

[vocal ginkgo]

Is useful for me just try and it works

[modern verge]

Lfg is waaaay better than bots, you play with actual people

Here:

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[elfin osprey]

what do u guys think about heavy smg?

[sharp siren]

caca

needs to go to the special slot

[elfin osprey]

why

its a good gun

its just lack of something

[sharp siren]

1. we have too many smgs in the main slot
2. its a shittier pdw

it lacks bullets

but then you would have pdw 2

[elfin osprey]

oh yea, we do have a billion main smg

[sharp siren]

since they basically identical

just slap it in the special slot more damage and more bullets

you can run double smg's now

10cc literally buffing everything but the regular smg for some reason

[elfin osprey]

double smg sound fun

[sharp siren]

would be nice to have something more cqc aside from shotguns and hcp

[patent owl]

So...the HAR 2?

[sharp siren]

har with more bullets than har

[patent owl]

Ah, so Machine gun 3

[sharp siren]

"shorter machinegun"

[dusky hedge]

on c2 over

[sharp siren]

yes

[dusky hedge]

father mother spawn from time

or % scan?

[sharp siren]

i believe its %

[dusky hedge]

hmm

[sharp siren]

i could be wrong

but mom always spawns at 95%

[dusky hedge]

when we fast scan(with boosters) creeps spawn faster?

[sharp siren]

dont know

i dont run boosters that often

just play it normally

just prepare for mom at the end

[dusky hedge]

we have 2 c foam grenade

[sharp siren]

yeah thats nice

if shes on cooldown or waiting on a room besides you just wait for a scream to push her

and foam

[signal plaza]

nah

time

you might even get away with using scan boosters and getting no mom at all

scan boosters also great for end of level

defo worth using

[frank path]

aight

let me try this tutorial

its A1 right?

@signal plaza sorry for ping

but can you help me get started

like what level is the tutorial

[vestal crystal]

it should be called "training"

[frank path]

uhh

im in the rundown section

its nowhere

[sharp owl]

click on rundown 1 it will appear there

[burnt flume]

should be on the left hand side of the screen

from any rundown screen, maybe even the rundown select menu

[frank path]

A1?

[sharp owl]

no there will be a button that says training

[frank path]

its not there

i would post ss but i cant

[true pilot]

are you in a lobby?

[sharp owl]

post in #gtfo-spoiler-chat

[frank path]

no

[true pilot]

cause tyen it doe not appear

Odd

[frank path]

i posted

[dusky hedge]

no father spawn on time

without booster he spawn on 50%

with on 65%

[signal plaza]

?

T is the tutorial

it says training

after that R7A1 is the easiest level but I recommend you go into #lfg-beginners and ask someone to teach you the basics

there’s a lot of great players around who are willing to get new players started

they’ll pick a level and all of that so dw about that

[floral verge]

grAH

[left fossil]

Are we suppose to start off playing in R1A1?

[rose nova]

u arent really supposed to start at a certain point, r1a1 and the whole R1 is very simple so i say its usually better to start with it, but r7a1 is usually considered a bit easier, tho it introduces lore and new stuff all around very fast

so its kinda whatever u wanna do

u could start at r5a1
tho its prob not, i wouldnt recommend it

[left fossil]

thx

I thought the higher the number, the harder it gets

[rose nova]

kinnnda
its really not consistent since all these were made like, on their own
but yeah usually from easiest to hardest its r1, r3, r6, r2,r7, r4, r5
or somethin like that

[little ridge]

Let's say it's more or less like that but R6 and R7 have checkpoints while all the others do not

Debatable if it's better for newbies to start on R1 or R7 but I'd personally pick R1

[rose nova]

same

[little ridge]

One of the things that stands out right now IMHO is how big of a gap there is between R1 to 5 and R6-7

Some R7 maps are still challenging even with a checkpoint but fuck R4 and R5 really are on another level compared to everything before spare probably R2E1 and R2D2

[rose nova]

i mean is just kinda how r1 to r5 keep just goin up and up and up cause there was just no rush to stop
and then r6 kinda hit and it was the startin point of a ton of people so they just made it easier and then r7 kinda wanted both

i think r7 is prob like the most inconsistent rundown in difficulty

we have a1 which is the easies a1 ever maybe apart from r6s one
and then c3 PE which is the pain of every r7 player

and e1

[modern coral]

R1-3, R4-5, and R6-7 are really completely different eras of level design.

[little ridge]

Yes and it kinda shows

[shut vapor]

not much you can do about it unless you want to completely change alt1-5 to match r6/7

[little ridge]

It'll feel so bizzare even not speaking challenge-wise

R7's lore is Schaeffer talking through intercom and shit

All the stuff previous is way way more subtle

[shut vapor]

R6-7 was the story focused level design era

[little ridge]

I'm not going to lie, from that point of view R6-7 seem more polished

[shut vapor]

They used more interesting story plot points which imo makes 6/7 appear more involved

[modern coral]

R4 lore: The Warden needs chemicals for their meth lab.

[sharp owl]

r6 maybe

r7 tho, lol

[shut vapor]

R7 story wise was good, gameplay wise, not so much

[modern coral]

You wildin' if you don't think R7 is more polished.

Don't get me wrong...

There's some real problems in R7.

But it's way more refined than R4 or R5.

[rose nova]

gameplay wise its fantastic, yeah some problems bugs lore difficulty curve
but like the level ideas and such?

their, amazing

[shut vapor]

R4 was just a shitfest of objectives

[rose nova]

d1 if it didnt had bugs

it would b super incredible

like the idea is super cool

[shut vapor]

R7D2 was really cool

[rose nova]

it is, fr one of the best levels qwq

[shut vapor]

R7 had me hooked with the interactive elements but the gameplay did leave something to be desired

[little ridge]

It's just that it's so much of a striking difference

Like, you start R1 and it's all silence and warden commands with some logs here and there

R7? Bang, Schaeffer talks at the very first sec door

[rose nova]

idk i think its nice
theres some, eh levels, like in every rundown really, but b3 c1 d1 d2 c3 are all very great in ideas and fun to play when they arent foldin and breakin
even e1 has cool ideas, b1 has some funk elements, b2 has a differentiator, even if i think its not that great, and c2 optionals are gold

[shut vapor]

If you had been playing since R4, you wouldn't find schaeffer talking to you very surprising, since he's been there since R4B1 at least

[rose nova]

wasnt he in logs

[shut vapor]

Yes

[little ridge]

I started in R4 was he was in logs

[rose nova]

there u go KMSDKM

[little ridge]

That's different from literally approach door and have him talk

[sharp owl]

my favourite alt r5 moment is the resist terminal not having a log

[shut vapor]

True, but R4/R5 is basically us doing warden shit + chasing after schaeffer, since we were always a few steps behind. Once we caught up he could talk to us directly

R6A1 is my answer

[little ridge]

I'm the kind of guy that never bothers with lore, logs and stuff, but it's just jarring

[modern coral]

Ngl, I think R7 levels are just way better to play than most of R4 and R5.

[shut vapor]

Fr

[little ridge]

R6 and R7 look like they were made with a different idea of the game in mind

[shut vapor]

R7D1 just kinda ruined it bc of how buggy it was

[little ridge]

Ah for sure, especially since R5 IMHO is super bloated of sectors

[rose nova]

absolutely, but if it wasnt it would b great gameplay great ideas great level one of the best for sure

[modern coral]

At least R5 sectors are most interesting than R4 sectors.

[shut vapor]

R5 was actually pretty good with sectors

[modern coral]

But yeah, maps are huge.

[rose nova]

r5d1 xd xd xd

[modern coral]

And lots of stuff can feel a bit uninspired.

[shut vapor]

Cutting down from 7 PE. to 5 PE for example

[modern coral]

Meanwhile, R7's C-tiers...

[shut vapor]

R7C3 is one of the best levels hands down

[modern coral]

Banger, banger, banger.

[rose nova]

the optionals from r7 are consistently just banger

or at least the 90%

[little ridge]

They blend in a bit better whereas R5's to me look like they could be a different map altogheter (R5B1 is way too much of a slog)

[rose nova]

ik, i was thinkin it while doin ov, i was like 'this is just ||r1c1|| al over again'

some parts different

[modern coral]

I think it also hurts R4 and R5 (and this happened to R2 as well) that there's tons of minor nerfs.

[rose nova]

but not a lot

[modern coral]

And they're the kind of nerfs that end up just making levels feel empty and boring.

[little ridge]

give me an example?

[modern coral]

There's just 0 respect for the original level design.

[rose nova]

if they say b1 alarm from IX to VII im throwin a hissy fit

[modern coral]

That isn't an OG -> Alt nerf.

[rose nova]

ik ksmdkm thats why i said it

that was an og nerf they did

while r2 was out

[shut vapor]

AltR2 should've buffed B1 :^))

[rose nova]

but keep writin the example sorry

[hollow plaza]

guys i have a doubt how can i make my friend join my lobby by the clipboard method

[shut vapor]

Have you looked at #how-to-matchmake

[rose nova]

hoii, u create a lobby, u click the right button that says 'copy lobby code'

u send ur friend the bunch of numbers [293293081029102 for example]

[hollow plaza]

it seems confusing, english is not my first language

[shut vapor]

Ah

[rose nova]

they copy it, and then when they open gtfo, a button the left should appear sayin 'JOIN LOBBY'

[shut vapor]

What language do you speak

[hollow plaza]

ok will try

[hollow plaza]

tamil

[shut vapor]

very interesting 👀

[modern coral]

-R2C2, 117 is just free vs. class I.
-R2E1, third error zone is completely out of fog.
-R4C2, basically every random scout is gone, and there are even less forced scouts in some places.
-Some S alarms in R4 spawn smaller waves (R4B3 and R4E1).
-Shadow scouts in R4 and R5 spawn in half number.
-R4E1 has significantly more ammo across the first three zones behind reactor.
-R5C2's thunderdome spawns fewer tanks, and likely fewer enemies in general.
-R5D2 has had an entire alarm and zone removed (arguably not an uncommon wipe, either).

[rose nova]

the r2c2 doesnt break the entire level

[little ridge]

I really cant speak much for R5, but wasn't R5C2 nerfed in terms of how many tanks spawned even when it was released? Cause I remember doing it a bit after release and it had a fucktillion which then got reduced

[modern coral]

There's also lots of accidental nerfs that are due to random tiling having a massive impact on difficulty. Extra doors on alarms, very strong funnels where there weren't before, enemies spawning very far away, etc.

[modern coral]

It was nerfed to 2.

It is now 1.

[little ridge]

ONLY 1?

[modern coral]

It doesn't necessarily break it, but it makes it a lot less interesting.

[little ridge]

I remember doing it OG and having some shit like 3 or 4 or more

[little ridge]

I feel like this especially is true tbh

But I dont think it was intentional

Like, for some zones being fogless (R2E1) is that actually intended

?

[modern coral]

Even if it's not...

That's more for lack of trying.

[visual lily]

R2e1 third error zone as already out of fog?

Wait....

R2.....

Not r5.....

Bruh moment

[modern coral]

Which I guess is inevitable.

R3 was unironically the highest effort Alt, it felt like.

And there are changes in R4 and R5 that I think are really good, there's not 0 thought going in.

There's just a lot that makes me feel like "fuck, I wish I were playing the OG rn."

[little ridge]

I get what you mean but, personally, I feel like saying the maps are now "empty and boring" is probably too much?

[modern coral]

I think it's accurate.

Plenty of things just feel like they're "missing"

[rose nova]

i mean if ur a nostalgic

u gonna look at r1a1

see the first zone after the first alarm

and say the whole lvele is shit cause its not the same room

im not sayin the changers ur sayin arent bad, no they do can detriment the view of a player that went through em

but players that saw the levels and maybe didnt played em too much

i dont think the changes wll affect them as super hard as a pro player that remembers all the tiles

[modern coral]

They might not notice...

But a lot of that is going to be skill issue.

I feel like especially for the hardest content, which vets want to return to, it should never be nerfed.

And hell, maybe my actual problem is that I think they needed to buff things.

[rose nova]

yeah i think the same

if r6 isnt buffed

im just gonna be really sad

[modern coral]

I feel that on R5D2, actually.

Third reactor wave...

Felt pretty hectic in OG.

But the exact same wave, unchanged, is a joke rn.

It's a comfy solo hold worth of enemies.

[rose nova]

new guns idk if its a new tileset but maybe new upgraded tools it all adds to it

also like, take into account

idk when u started playin, maybe og r1 in such case wow
but from og r5 to alt r5

its 6 rundowns of practice

its like a year skill gap

so not only it is nerfed as a level and buffed the guns in generals

its also ur just better at the game

[modern coral]

I'm like 50/50 on that.

It has felt harder on replay than the alts have.

But also, I've made a lot of progress as a player shortly after the last time I've gone back to revisit things.

[signal plaza]

the fact that alt R5 still offers difficulty compared to the other alt rundowns shows how hard it was for its time before

imo

[rose nova]

no yeah, its not a black and white 'ur just better at the game thats why ur piss'
its a whole combination of things, maybe its skill growth like 30 40%, guns 30% and then the level the rest

[signal plaza]

compare any R5 level to its counterparts in other rundowns

usually the R5 level will be harder

[rose nova]

yeah it was just kinda that above and beyond

and its really funny that on this rundown

there ISNT the hardest e1 :D

cause many people still say r4e1 is harder

lmao

[signal plaza]

r4e1 got a bigger nerf than r5e1 tho

[modern coral]

R5E1 is harder imo, just tbh I didn't really feel it until now.

And yeah, R4E1 has gotten heavier nerfs than most levels.

[rose nova]

yeah thats fair, idk how r they on alts

[signal plaza]

the stealth after the first portion is a joke compared to original

original was like 6-8 scouts per zone and guaranteed to be in pairs

now it’s 2-4

and no pair guarantee

[modern coral]

And you get a lot more ammo post-reactor.

And code hunter(s) has significantly less ammo constriction.

And code 6 is way more rushable.

[signal plaza]

true this one

also boosters exist now

[modern coral]

Technically, I guess.

[signal plaza]

and provisions are always broken so anyone can beat e levels these days

although we did get stamina

[modern coral]

Taking provisions on R4E1 is wild, though.

It's actually worthless.

[signal plaza]

I think a big part of reactors feeling easier is the fact that sniper was useless in R5

original

or well: it was good, but it was statistically bad

[modern coral]

Eh, it's literally the same.

[signal plaza]

compared to now

[modern coral]

The only change it got is 30->40 damage.

[signal plaza]

nah R5 sniper had 2 round mag still

right?

R6 gave the big buffs

[modern coral]

P sure 2-mag was R4 only.

[signal plaza]

hmm

you might be right on that one, not sure

R6 sniper was op

that’s for sure

21 ammo? I believe?

[modern coral]

I'm definitely willing to grant that R4 and R5 had weird weapon balancing.

[signal plaza]

4/5 per refill

[modern coral]

Basically every weapon was kind of meh if you weren't playing uber-sweat.

[signal plaza]

true

R6 saw some huge gunplay buffs

[modern coral]

6 per refill.

[signal plaza]

damn

[modern coral]

It was ludicrous.

[heavy arrow]

How are the updates?

[modern coral]

Ok.

[heavy arrow]

Roped a friend in maybe playing ut

[rose nova]

well we just got one a bit ago smdks

like, less than a week ago

[signal plaza]

they called me a madman for using it and nobody believed me when I said just how insane it was

I still use sniper on 75% of my runs

I love sniper

[vivid lichen]

so im new to the game and like playing with my friends but am utterly facinated by attempting to play solo and ive been trying to get r1a1 solo for like two weeks nonstop for like 50-60 hours at this point but have never been able to get it and i was so stupidly close just now. I brought the c-foam launcher and relied on finding trip mines to place to take out a good chunk of the first wave so i could finish scans and I managed to find two, not ideal but way better than none, and kept c-foaming the door during the second alarm until i got all but two of the scans done so i ran, used my healthpack while i ran and went through the entire other zone closing doors behind me and i got the scans done but missed a door button because i forgot to hack both sides of a door and got overwhelmed and died... it was tragic, heroic, valiant event, but nevertheless, 'twas for naught

[shut vapor]

Classic

Locking yourself out :^)))

[modern verge]

6th attempt of R5B1 with bots

[burnt flume]

the main difficulty in solo r1a1 comes from holding the alarms

[modern verge]

what would be a good primary to use for R5B1 anyway

[burnt flume]

improving your holding is quite useful really, good mission to practice and push yourself

[gilded flame]

you can't get help with it right?

some connection issues if I remember correctly

[modern verge]

yeap

[gilded flame]

well that sucks

[modern verge]

network is currently on NAT 2

meaning peer 2 peer dont work

[gilded flame]

for main only I just go hel revolver

[modern verge]

got a recommendation from someone to run assault so im doing that rn, mainly for the part after ||error||

[true pilot]

hel rifle is good

[gilded flame]

||isn't there just nothing after error?||

[true pilot]

yeah just extract

[gilded flame]

I managed to do the extraction with cube with like 10% on both weapons

[modern verge]

wait

[true pilot]

and me killing the bots

[modern verge]

isnt there a class 4 cluster?

[true pilot]

no

[gilded flame]

why would there be?

[true pilot]

R5B1

[modern verge]

huh

wait

[gilded flame]

R5B1

[modern verge]

MY FUCKING DUMBASS

[true pilot]

has an extract at the begining

[gilded flame]

||after main objective you return to the point of entrance||

[true pilot]

what did you do?

[gilded flame]

alto where did you go

[modern verge]

i focused so hard on "hey this door is in lockdown, im sure it will unlock once i do the HSU, meaning extract is probably there, and i gotta hurry cause error is probably not gonna end"

[modern verge]

...the west door

[gilded flame]

💀

[true pilot]

west door?

[modern verge]

yeah.

[true pilot]

is that not optional?

[modern verge]

it is

[shut vapor]

most literate player

[gilded flame]

it is

[true pilot]

like bulkhead

[modern verge]

yeah

[true pilot]

so rip

[modern verge]

you dont need bulkhead to open it

[true pilot]

just grab a good primary

and hel rifle

[modern verge]

right

well

[true pilot]

and you should be good

[modern verge]

oh im using burst canon

worked like a charm

[gilded flame]

or if you're good with bonking scouts just go whatever

[true pilot]

yeah

[modern verge]

theres regualr giants too it works fine against

[true pilot]

i use hel rifle for the angry boys

[gilded flame]

if it works fine against chargers it works fine against regular big boys

[true pilot]

but whatever works for you

[modern verge]

already dropped

[true pilot]

you will be fine

[modern verge]

fuck

[true pilot]

good luck

[gilded flame]

good luck then

[true pilot]

don’t you dare to bail

[modern verge]

hangon

[true pilot]

be a god gamer

[modern verge]

i jabbed

a scout

[gilded flame]

to death right?

:)

[true pilot]

you did what to a scout

[modern verge]

jab

on accident

[true pilot]

how does one do that

[modern verge]

i dont know

[true pilot]

(to be fair i once shot the hel rifle at a scout thanks to instincts)

( i missed)

[modern verge]

ah

[true pilot]

like i tried to quick scope it

or rather

the gamer in me wanted

[rose nova]

i once shot a scout
with a precision rifle
scoped
scout below me
no pressure
and i missed

[true pilot]

g r a v i t y

[modern verge]

I DID IT AGAIN

[true pilot]

did what?

jabbed tye scout?

[modern verge]

well, woke it up

shot

missed

[true pilot]

Rip

[modern verge]

ok, at the room before the fuckening now

[true pilot]

yay

i believe in you

do you have mines on you?

[modern verge]

yes

[true pilot]

good

[modern verge]

will be using

i have 6 so far

[true pilot]

also make sure to ping the hsu

[modern verge]

of course

[true pilot]

i usually use like 4

well

wish you luck then

[modern verge]

both scouts down

now for chargers

[true pilot]

you got this

[modern verge]

shit, east door again

last time i just got lucky.

ok, i have placed down 8 mines

and opening the door now

[true pilot]

wait what

hold

i think he is gone

[modern verge]

FOUND

DONE

[true pilot]

yes

wohoo

now don’t get steam rolled on extract

[modern verge]

worst is done

ok and here

we GO

yeah two turrets was a good idea

fucking finally

[true pilot]

yay

gg

[modern verge]

and i got the... red version of the R1 helmet

neat

[true pilot]

lovely

should have sacrificed the bots

[gilded flame]

agreed

sacrificing bots gives better stuff

[modern verge]

Goal was just doing the level anyway

I'll sacrifice some other level

I already have most of the important drip anyway

Like the prosthetics

[vivid lichen]

Yeah the first alarm is a piece of cake with c-foam or mines the second alarm though is a very different story and it’s pretty easy to get overwhelmed especially when I’m yet to master animation canceling and don’t have the best aim yet but I’ll get there I’m sure

[burnt flume]

mhm, as long as you have time to grab consumables you should be able to get the mission down, when speedrunning it the second alarm can be kinda nasty

[modern verge]

first alarm might be possible without mines at all

[vivid lichen]

Oh yeah it is

I was saying either or

[modern verge]

the left side of first alarm has a tight hallway right? you could stand, fire, and begin moving towards it

you avoid using any consumables which would be extremely useful for 2nd door

[vivid lichen]

While that’s true the harder part is taking care of enemies and doing scans I’ve only ever managed to do one, I can stall long enough to get the scans done but by that point the sheer quantity of enemies regardless of the spawn cap is hard to take on by myself

I think if I had three mines instead of two I could’ve done it I put two on the door if I had another to put in that hallway and then kite them through there and place it only after I complete the scans I’d be able to do it

[burnt flume]

what setup are you running in terms of weapons/tools?

[vivid lichen]

The burst smg, i think it’s the auken maybe(don’t quote me on that lol) and the maltak heavy assault rifle for special although I’m considering using the hel shotgun as primary instead to handle the hordes better although I’ve noticed I really struggle with the first alarm when I use it because I get overwhelmed by the individual enemies that I can’t manage to line up well enough and I was previously using mines but in recent runs I switched to c-foam since I manage to find mines a lot more than c-foam and having consistent c-foam to stall out for the scans is what I’ve had the most success with and I usually use knife but in solo I run spear for scouts

[analog flicker]

Carbine / HAR

just for reference. most people use the abbreviated names

[vivid lichen]

Okay thanks

[analog flicker]

also iirc there is 3 guns with the manufacturer name Van auken

also multiple weapons with Malatack

[vivid lichen]

That’s why I specified the burst

[rose nova]

heavy smg smg r the others :]

and burst rifle for malatack

[vivid lichen]

I just gave what I remembered the exact weapon names to be I’ll keep that in mind for future reference

[analog flicker]

mhm

there was a certain someone who refused to call the guns by the shortened/simple names

[rose nova]

funny

[analog flicker]

and caused a bit of an uproar awhile back

that person has several of us blocked funnily enough

and they dont chat in other channels anymore

[rose nova]

i think i might know who it is, but not sure ksdmk

[burnt flume]

burst as in carbine maybe? idk

[rose nova]

yeah

burst smg

they both van auken

[vivid lichen]

Yeah the carbine

[burnt flume]

most speedruns use carbine + combat shotgun + burst sentry, I've also run with the DMR in place of the carbine

[analog flicker]

carbine has one of the fastest if not fastest/easiest ttk on smalls

[burnt flume]

ye

[vivid lichen]

All my runs I’ve done with sentry have just flumped so hard on the first alarm I’ve experimented with different kinda and different placements they just aren’t working for me on R1A1 ig

[rose nova]

i mean machinepistol is higher i think but its true that its too hard to use for that
im gonna see

ah thought the wiki had it lmao

[analog flicker]

it's fast but I wouldn't put it as easy

[vivid lichen]

I thought about trying the machine pistols and experimented with revolvers and shotguns for specials but I never ended up trying it due to the fact that I don’t think the damage would be able to keep up with the sheer number of enemies I’d be dealing with alone

And the shotguns I’ve gotten easily overwhelmed using with the lower mag capacity, the high damage is nice for big guys but I can manage them with a full clip from the HAR and a couple shots anyway so it’s not a detriment and I have more success against the brunt of the waves with it

I can’t manage to find the heads fast enough for the single shot pistols or revolvers to work for me too well either

Another thing I have to work on

[stark imp]

Interestingly enough, I somehow can clear waves better with the high cal pistol compared to HAR or either of the MGs.

[vivid lichen]

I see

I might give it a shot then

I wish there was a burst special other than the clunky one that I can’t stand because of the charge fire and ridiculous recoil

[rose nova]

the other machinegun is less recoil heavy

tho it still has charge

the arbalist

[burnt flume]

burst cannon is most certainly not a special you should be taking for r1a1 solo

[vivid lichen]

Yeah I’m just not a fan of the charge shot guns they don’t feel good to use although maybe that’s something that I jsut have to get over by using them

Yeah fr

That’s why I don’t take it lol

I was just saying I wish there was a burst special that felt better to use for shorter range but still had the kick of a special weapon

[stark imp]

I can recommend using HAR with single shots or controlled bursts

[vivid lichen]

Yeah that’s what I’ve landed on as my favorite special for solo

[stark imp]

Or just grab the high cal pistol and delete small sleepers with each shot.

[vivid lichen]

I’ve tried the revolver but not the high cal pistol yet

[analog flicker]

revolver**but yeah, need to aim for heads

[vivid lichen]

I don’t think I have the accuracy for it

Yeah lol

[analog flicker]

[stark imp]

Yeah, but for soloing levels the high cal is better for dealing with larger enemies as well as having the ammo supply to be used almost all the time

In a team I use DTR + Revolver, but when I am soloing levels I bring DTR + High Cal.

[analog flicker]

Revolver can still be rapid fired into giant threats :/

but of course

[stark imp]

And I do like the "aim anywhere on the enemy" forgiveness of the high cal pistol

[analog flicker]

that is assuming the player can handle the recoil of rapid firing it

[swift wyvern]

Lol just pull down

[analog flicker]

as your name is. some people have that

[vivid lichen]

The problem is the capacity it screws me over during alarms and In a team I usually use the carbine with a sniper for bigs and scout’s because I like being the one to snipe the four big guys in the next room so we don’t get obliterated by their bodybuilder arms

[analog flicker]

I've heard some newcomers say normal AR has horrible recoil

[stark imp]

Now that I think about it, why would anyone pick the pump action shotgun over high cal? Sure, two shots more each mag, but the range is much more limited and there's less ammo.

[burnt flume]

you can unscope/rescope for each shot

[swift wyvern]

🫢

[burnt flume]

faster reload, higher mag size

better uptime

[analog flicker]

faster reload/more uptime

shotgun is better if you can be Mobile with it

[swift wyvern]

Time and place for dealing with enemies upclose

[analog flicker]

and also know when to fire so sway bug doesn't fuck you over

or just ads

[celest ginkgo]

Just discovered the narly reload cancel on buckland 870, I'll need to give this thing a try

[analog flicker]

the question is. are you swap cancelling? or bash/shove cancelling?

[swift wyvern]

Also the power slide reload to not lose momentum

[vivid lichen]

I discovered reload canceling earlier today but haven’t had the chance to try it because every time I need to reload I’m y’know, dying

[celest ginkgo]

Is one better than the other? I swap cancel

[analog flicker]

shove cancel is faster

[swift wyvern]

Positioning is important

[swift wyvern]

Swap cancel has higher uptime if using your other gun is viable

[analog flicker]

swap cancel is better if you intend to use your other weapon to fire immediately

[stark imp]

Hopefully we'll see "removed reload cancel on all weapons" on patchnotes eventually

[swift wyvern]

Otherwise shove

[swift wyvern]

Eat my butt

[burnt flume]

if you're firing one gun, both methods performed optimally should be the same timing iirc

but shoving is often easier to time

[celest ginkgo]

Honestly I like the skill based mechanics, as long as we have viable weapons that don't rely on cancels

[analog flicker]

technically yes but if youre swapping and then swapping back it's slower

that's where shove cancel is faster

[vivid lichen]

I see shove canceling to be especially useful in close quarters as well dual utility with the reload as well as a melee stagger

[analog flicker]

ironically you hardly ever see it used to actually stagger

[vivid lichen]

Makes sense

Ideally you’re never in that situation to begin with

[analog flicker]

it's a power ability given if it's used effectively

then again the strongest stagger is death

casually swings through multple sleepers bashing their occi's with my hammer

[vivid lichen]

Lol

I like the knife personally

Being able to kill three close proximity sleepers on my own is pretty sweet

With any other weapon it’d be a risk of waking the room but with the knife it feels like a casual walk in the park lol

[analog flicker]

other weapons it's takes a degree of knowledge to kill 3 close sleepers

without alerting

the room*

[vivid lichen]

Fair

I just hate the spear if I can help it

[analog flicker]

spear is technically the easiest for stealth since you almost never want to be sprinting anyways

[vivid lichen]

And I find the knife to be more viable in going melee instead of wasting ammo when rooms are alerted

And yeah that’s why I use it for solo

[wispy bluff]

Not very viable against giants, but other than that...

[vivid lichen]

But when I have my friends they usually bring spear or give me the option to bring a sniper for scouts so I have more freedom to not

I always have an option for big guys regardless if I don’t have a spear it means not only someone else does but I’m also more than likely capable of blowing his head off three times before bro can even wake up

[wispy bluff]

That too

We've been pestering devs about the spear for ages but they just don't sober up

[burnt flume]

this conversation is giving me the urge to try get a faster time on solo r1a1 but I am refusing to launch the game

[vivid lichen]

I need to go to sleep but now I’m thinking about the game again and I’m now afraid if I sleep now I won’t wake up in time for work✨

[vivid lichen]

And don’t just casually say that I’ve been trying to do this for weeks😭

[burnt flume]

ok, so both this game and work sucks, but work gives you money

this game gives you nothing, go sleep my guy

[vivid lichen]

It’s too late I fear

[wispy bluff]

As someone who keeps going to work with only 6 hours of sleep time - don't do it

Its horrible, its painful and makes you wanna die, actually

[stark imp]

But what if the thing you need to melee is a giant?

[vivid lichen]

There’s zero chance I’m gonna go to sleep now and wake up in 4 hours without a hinch

[wispy bluff]

Because death is a form of sleep with no consequences such as "how dare you fall asleep at your work station"

[vivid lichen]

Stealth the entire rest of the room then shoot it

[burnt flume]

so long as you can get some rest, it's something

[vivid lichen]

No like you misunderstand

I question my literally ability to wake up and get to work

I sleep like a r o c k

I set several alarms

Sometimes not even they awaken me from my slumber

[wispy bluff]

Same

[vivid lichen]

So I’ll jsut power through and get a good nights sleep when I get home I do t work for long anyway

[wispy bluff]

My sleep has an HP bar of 2 and only gets destroyed by a 2nd alarm

[vivid lichen]

Just from 4:30-9:30 5 hours is no biggie lol

[heavy arrow]

So we are new do we just start doing the first expeditions and keep going up through them all?

[vivid lichen]

I’m fortunate enough to be an 18yo masquerading as an adult and not having to work full time at the moment with is nice but also means I have more free time with which to brood over the fact that I can’t beat R1A1 solo

Sure

I mean you could start in may rundown but you have to progressively beat the levels in each one

I personally chose to start in r1 because I’ve wanted this game for years and managed to build my first gaming pc last summer after being enamored by markiplier playing it as well as the game itself

And being the markiplier fan I am have decided to go on a crusade of solo play

(The crusade being of my sanity, that shit is gone)

[wispy bluff]

Its advised to the the TRAINING mission first, its basically solo player tutorial to get the basics of basics.

AFter that yes - you just start from Rundown 1 - A1 Expedition and work upwards from there

Once missions start getting too brutal might consider switching to other rundowns

A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard

I probably should come up with better classification later... Done

[vivid lichen]

I need more coffee

anyway time to continue my attempts to solo r1a1

wahoooooo

[wispy bluff]

like solo-solo or with bot-buddies?

[swift wyvern]

Attach a knife to your alarm

It doesn't stop stabbing you until you turn it off

[vivid lichen]

ooooo good idea

and solo solo

[wispy bluff]

oof

[vivid lichen]

true solo if you will

[wispy bluff]

good luck then

[vivid lichen]

ty im already in and i mildly regret it a little bit

[heavy arrow]

@wispy bluff thanks

So the game has zero fomo battle pass shit which is very nice. Curious if the updates add sick content

[rose nova]

the updates add a rundown and the guns attatched to it, so in this update we got 3 guns and 13 lvls

[pine root]

If you haven’t played through the game there is a decent amount of content especially if you don’t play in this discord and stick with friends

[heavy arrow]

Wow 13 new maps?!?!

Yeah we are completely new. We love horde shooters and shit so this game seems like it'll be the stealth? Version of that.

[rose nova]

both!

mixed in

lil salt and pepper

[swift wyvern]

R5C1 got me a lil' fr*cked up

I'm doing triple sniper sentry for the first alarm

Should I do something else

[burnt flume]

if nothing changed from the original, it's probably just "hold better lol", the alarm is meant to take away your resources

[swift wyvern]

Yeah tell that to Hackett dauda and bishop

Mfers pulling out their melee and shit

Just shoot 'em

How u gonna be a robot with perfect aim yet still shoot me in the back of the head 😠

The real uprising isn't against the warden

It's against the players

Least unhinged #gtfo-lore theory

[keen surge]

i'm pretty sure bots can't ff you when they follow you

[vivid lichen]

it seems the problem ive encountered is i need only one mine for the first alarm but loads of c-foam for the second which is inconvenient because i have to rely on rng either way :/

[brazen breach]

Does boosters stack in GTFO?

[keen surge]

but yeah 3 sniper sentries works well enough with 3 bots for this level, just be sure to put 2 sentries on the left side (when looking at spawn) for the first alarm as that's where most ennemies come from

[rose nova]

yeah, if u get one muted and one bold booster of like melee dmg, they stack and u will do the both numbers combined of more melee dmg

[brazen breach]

Are the numbers calculated per booster, or added cumulatively?

[vivid lichen]

percent boosts are usually additive

[brazen breach]

Right, ok. Thank you vm

[vivid lichen]

theyre not multipliers therefore therye additive

[swift wyvern]

Multiplicative boosters would be busted

Imagine that with sentry CPU speed

[vivid lichen]

yeah lmao

[swift wyvern]

Brrrrzzzzzz

[vivid lichen]

lmfaoooo

ah the game hath been gracious and ive recieved a trip mine from the gods

[rose nova]

:D

[vivid lichen]

and the first alarm done without a hitch, mines are a wonderous thing

[rose nova]

:DDD

[modern verge]

nice

[vivid lichen]

life would be so much easier if utility items showed up on list

so i could know if i should just restart or not and not spend 30 minutes clearing the next zone hoping for three mines and maybe a c-foam nade if im lucky

[junior latch]

you rly dont NEED them

They are helpful yea, but theres a multitude of strats (and also just getting better) that makes it doable

[vital rune]

im ngl im in r5a2 solo rn and im at the class 3 cluster

im scared im gonna die 2 it lol

[junior latch]

ya got a sentry or mines?

[vital rune]

mines

[junior latch]

welp

[swift wyvern]

Reject "I hope I get lucky"

[junior latch]

prep as best as you can

[swift wyvern]

Embrace "fuck it we ball"

[vital rune]

im cool like that ion need a sentry

just my guns

lol

[junior latch]

needs mines tho ?

[vital rune]

hybrid blood door

yeah

[junior latch]

shoot it

[vital rune]

no.

2 much work

mines easier fr

[vivid lichen]

sentrys never feel like they really do anything when im doing alarms ._.

at least by myself the difference is insignificant

[keen surge]

which sentries are you taking

[junior latch]

1 burst sentry does a lot if well placed. 2-3 will completely stop waves

[vivid lichen]

now two sentrys thats a party

[junior latch]

1 sentry significantly weakens a wave (by either killing a few or dmging a ton of them) making it easier to shoot

[vivid lichen]

and ive tried a couple different strats but usually burst or shotgun

mostly burst

since theyre the "best" overall sentry atm

[vital rune]

wish me luck

[vivid lichen]

reject luck

fuck it we ball

[swift wyvern]

Ur balling bro

Get 'em 😎

[vital rune]

i fuckin died lol

i had to reload both my guns man fml

that class 3 cluster sucks ass

[rose nova]

much fog but usually with a snetry it works decently
are u duoin

[vital rune]

nah it was just me

[rose nova]

pain
well u got pretty far thats nice tho

[vital rune]

thats my second death 2 that alarm

i gotta do better

[vivid lichen]

its my favorite when the keys in the room connected to 51 and theres no scout in there

yippeeeee

[burnt flume]

Room G?

As long as its not in room H I'm happy

[vivid lichen]

nah room E

wait no

read the door wrong lol

it is G

[modern verge]

A

Sports

[vivid lichen]

lmfao

wow i found another mine and ive not even gotten to z51 yet this is pretty nice

[modern verge]

niiice

if you get any after the final alarm you can use it if you wake up a whole room or place it high when you escape (damaging giants)

[burnt flume]

Reminder: the mission can't hurt you but I sure can if you interrupt your run to type in discord

[vivid lichen]

listen okay im contractually obligated to give reports to hq on my progress

[burnt flume]

No, bad

Stop it

[vivid lichen]

quick question tho is it worth it to put two mines on one doorway or should i just move on to a different door

[burnt flume]

Different door

[wraith marsh]

unless its like ALL giants

and even then its kinda eh

(or a blood door that has a lot of hybrids)

[vivid lichen]

revolver one shots scouts in the head right?\

[burnt flume]

Back of head

You can also knife them to the back of the head

[vivid lichen]

i just speared him i was thinking about trying to shoot because id been trying to comit to the kill for like 5 minutes but i finally got it he was in the small room at the back of z50 and just kept walking up and down the same open hard to approach area

[carmine stone]

🥴

[vivid lichen]

i hate everything it was so perfect and i fumbled it so hard lmao

[heavy arrow]

So do you get cosmetics and rewards for doing missions?

[true pilot]

yup

[rose nova]

when completin a rundown u get a helmet, that u can see on the apparel tab on the rundown screen
when u complete a mission for the first time, u get a random cosmetic

a helmet, some pants, a vest, a color palette, all that

[heavy arrow]

Oh cool

So all the weapons and stuff are unlocked instantly?

[true pilot]

yes

[heavy arrow]

Nice.

[true pilot]

just cosmetics require unlocks

[heavy arrow]

That's a dope system

[terse remnant]

the new fog sucks

[rose nova]

new?

[modern verge]

new?

[rose nova]

think its been the same fog system since r6, if not, since r2 or so

[burnt flume]

r6/r7 lighting makes fog look different iirc

[rose nova]

depends on the level

[sharp owl]

more like all the expeditions

[vale oar]

I'm so glad people still play this I've had it in my library for awhile and just now checking it out looks dope

[true pilot]

Its a cool game

quite hard but cool

[modern verge]

its very much fun

difficulty isnt "bullshit" difficulty either

[quartz cape]

nah this game fucking sucks

[modern verge]

its manageable difficulty that can be handled with enough experience

gameplay's neat too, tons of replayability with levels

[true pilot]

yeah this game is centered around experience

the more you play the better you get

[modern verge]

the learning curve is... steep, granted

[rose nova]

skill problema

[quartz cape]

play b4 and tell me you're not bored as hell

[true pilot]

just don’t play that level then

there is plenty more

[quartz cape]

boy I sure hope c3 isnt just 3 alarms and then an uplink

[rose nova]

r2b4 is a banger habilidad issue

[quartz cape]

I meant r5b4 but they're both pretty snoozer tbh

[little ridge]

R5B4 literally has a "wait at the door" timer tbh

[rose nova]

u didnt specified problemas habilidosos

[little ridge]

It doesn't get any snoozier than that

[burnt flume]

r2b4 is what? 2 or 3 alarms and a turbine carry?

[little ridge]

yes, not even a scout unless I misremember

[swift wyvern]

Shouldn't you go into the side rooms

TO get resources

[quartz cape]

no

[swift wyvern]

no?

[quartz cape]

you go to the side rooms to have more doors

[little ridge]

We did go through them but whatever it's like spare change enemies

[quartz cape]

thats it

[burnt flume]

density """fix"""

[swift wyvern]

If you just stick at the first door for the countdown won't you just run out of resources?

[little ridge]

Team I was with we did at our first try and we were fucking around, I was the only one that knew what to do and my instructions were basically "get cell for one of the doors then whatever"

We didnt even abuse door+mines much

[quartz cape]

thats why you go in a side room and mine a door every 2 minutes

[burnt flume]

i feel like if I say one more thing about the amount of sleeping enemies I'll be the equivalent of "men were tougher back in the day"

or you can just melee most the waves

[swift wyvern]

Men were tougher back in the day

But they also couldn't do integrals

lmao fucking idiots

[little ridge]

Were they? Didnt people use to be short in ancient times?

[burnt flume]

you underestimate what random european men could do in the 14th century

[swift wyvern]

I'm 6ft3 but you bet anyone with more muscle mass than sandpaper would be able to beat my ass no problem

they'd just cough on you and you'd die within 48 hours honestly so

[analog flicker]

It's a Giant Striker. BONK HIM

[swift wyvern]

whose the REAL strong man

[little ridge]

Ok let me rephrase that, do you think they had people as strong as some strongmen that there are right now?

And all the equipment they have now to train and stuff?

[swift wyvern]

Well now you're just comparing bell curves

[little ridge]

Not to mention the chemicals but whatever

[little ridge]

Is this Bell hot?

Since she has curves

[swift wyvern]

It's only hot when it goes through your ass

It's Taco bell curve

[little ridge]

Unpolite and rude 😦

[swift wyvern]

I didn't make the rules 😦

I just blindly uphold them when it's convenient

[dusk palm]

4 more missions and i finish Rundown 5

[signal plaza]

nice

good luck on those

D1 is hard D2 is easy E1 is hell

C3 isnt too bad but C2 is also hard