#gtfo-chat

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modern coral
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And angles are kind of bad a lot of the time.

jagged trail
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i know what the current state of the game is

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but theoretically u shouldn't be solo

jade iron
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yeah, you should be duo (/s I like solos)

modern coral
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And?

jade iron
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the solos are what I miss most about r6 tbh

modern coral
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That seems pretty fair for support wave clear to support with wave clear.

jagged trail
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and in duo you'll constantly hear "i missed most of the shots from my mag and still killed much more than i have in mag"

modern coral
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I just disagree. The amount of control you need over combat to make HEL Rifle work is quite significant.

jagged trail
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also, it's easier to get pens than with helgun

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because u don't need headshots

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point, click, noobzooka

modern coral
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HEL Gun has eco options and if you get pens at all it's surprisingly frequent that you can get head pens.

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PDW and Rifle are great finishers, HEL Revo and Carbine are just fine if you want a sweatier Main.

jagged trail
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or you could get 20% more ammo per pack and just don't care

modern coral
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?

jagged trail
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20%* more damage, sorry

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and on demand shooter body oneshots, my final argument kappa

modern coral
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Who cares? DPS usually matters way more than damage eco.

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And holy fuck, HEL Rifle DPS sucks.

jade iron
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I guess when I think of things that made r6 duos practical, it was solo clearing hordes in r6c3pe while teammate has sniper for tanks, solo holding error section cluster waves n r6d2 while teammate does scans, killing more chargers per second than you're really entitled to in r6d4, etc.

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and I think hel rifle would've fit the bill on all of that

modern coral
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Hard disagree, again.

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I've played some R7D2 duos lately, and holy shit, HEL Rifle could never do it.

jade iron
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huh, I was thinking r7d2 would be one of the places where hel rifle would mess shit up

modern coral
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Well, it could, but it'd be significantly more challenging, and you'd need to carry yourself w/ a Main.

jagged trail
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fuck

modern coral
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It's real bad, too many right angles.

jagged trail
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wish u didnt say that

modern coral
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It's nice for big guys, tho.

jagged trail
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i was about to launch the game

jade iron
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I'll have to take a hel rifle into r7d2 and report back at some point

jagged trail
unreal crystal
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It rlly worked well for charger error in r5e1 duo

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could kill entire wave or almost all of it in one shot

modern coral
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I agree, but I think that says more about HEL Rifle's weaknesses than its strengths.

unreal crystal
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but there was also a really insane sight line for it

modern coral
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Like, I think a big reason it's cracked on R3C1 is that even if enemy pathing or collision or something fucks you, it's not that many enemies.

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If you kill a charger with each shot, you've already succeeded.

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You can just reload between waves, literally not a downside.

jagged trail
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rooms inside are pretty packed

jade iron
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the reload is about the same as choke mod

jagged trail
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except u can cancel

jade iron
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yeah after cancel it's about the same as choke mod

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sans cancel it's giga-bad

modern coral
jagged trail
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u don't need to shoot the same weapon after cancelling

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which nets u a dps increase

modern coral
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HEL Rifle has these three things making it sluggish: Small mag, slow reload, and a low RoF.

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If you remove two of those from the equation, it's pretty good.

jade iron
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lol, if you remove one of those things from the equation you have a fucked up gun

modern coral
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And I think that's fine.

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It's very very strong in fairly specific circumstances.

jagged trail
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like sniper vs bigs

modern coral
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^

jagged trail
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wait

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sniper isn't broken here either?

modern coral
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Who are you arguing with, I don't think HEL Rifle or Sniper is broken.

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I think they're both fairly niche and sometimes overrated.

jagged trail
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oh

jade iron
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"niche" is the word I'd choose for sniper

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if I adjusted to the meta and actually started using hel gun more again, "niche" is also the word I'd use for choke mod

modern coral
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Sniper I think at least could receive reasonable buffs without breaking the game, HEL Rifle I think is harder to adjust because it's at such risk of turning into another BC or HEL Gun.

jade iron
junior latch
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also smth that came up more than once here

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hel rifle works well on charger errors

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cuz the wave size doesnt pressure it as much

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so reload speed and fire rate matter less

jade iron
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fire rate isn't nothing, but I feel like I see too much reasoning along the lines of "if you add reload time and shot delay x clip size of this gun, you get a smaller number than the same calculation for that gun, therefore the former gun has better uptime"

modern coral
jade iron
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maybe I'm strawmanning if I apply it to you, but I've seen eva bust out that kind of calculation before in the old choke mod v high cal arguments

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thing is, shot delay gets swallowed a fair bit in the process of target acquisition, in the cadence of movement and holding, weapon swapping, etc

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I'll agree that on big targets it does more clearly reduce dps

modern coral
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I think there's two issues with waving off things like shot delay.

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It's a skill cap. It might be very hard to achieve more obscene RoFs while still achieving good value, but the better the player the more realistic that becomes to achieve consistently.

It's also less about achieving that RoF vs. having the option to. You're not always going to have 3 strikers that you need to kill or stagger almost immediately, but when they do show up, holy shit is it good to have the tools to deal with them in that moment.

jagged trail
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like a primary weapon

modern coral
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Not as well as Specials.

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  • weapon switch isn't quite free.
jagged trail
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isn't it like 100ms with adsing

modern coral
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0.1s kinda matters sometimes.

jagged trail
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like a shot delay

junior latch
modern coral
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Indeed, like the 0.75s that HEL Rifle suffers through.

junior latch
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before the changes, before the dark times

jagged trail
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wish i could also have a primary weapon when using hel rifle

modern coral
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Panda, you can already do a lot of content w/ just HEL Revo.

junior latch
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unless theres a legit insane combo going on (hel gun and rifle) this argument always confuses me

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as if other specials dont have a main gun to play with

modern coral
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I don't think that HEL Revo is the saving grace for Special weapons that happen to be garbo.

jagged trail
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you also can do a lot with bullpup and helrifle

modern coral
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Fuck no.

junior latch
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well you can ray

modern coral
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Maybe as much as you can do w/ Bullpup PR.

junior latch
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most heavily experienced vets can do all content with sub par guns

modern coral
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I definitely don't hate PR.

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But that doesn't make it good.

jagged trail
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I'm pretty sure I'd do a lot more with HelRifle than PR

junior latch
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Oh i wasnt saying it does

but yeah, you cant take „main makes hel rifle a good choice“ when theres no synergy. Its not like you reach better breakpoints, you just use your main on top of the hel rifle

junior latch
jade iron
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gtfo-chat finally coming to terms with the truth that is bullpup + PR

jagged trail
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how is there no synergy

jade iron
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(need to run it with spear though)

modern coral
jagged trail
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u use primary for stuff that your special is bad against

fathom cloak
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huh

jagged trail
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it's the Gerz bc all over again

modern coral
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Not really.

junior latch
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nah bc is actually bonkers everywhere else and situational vs smalls

modern coral
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BC is actually insanely good at certain things.

junior latch
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so there you can talk that the main actually makes it a huge power house

visual lily
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Can we do a minecraft gtfo roleplay server

modern coral
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The things HEL Rifle is insanely good at are significantly less frequent or valuable.

junior latch
junior latch
fathom cloak
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can dead bodies stop blocking my bc bullets

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thanks devs

visual lily
jagged trail
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stuff running in a straight line is significantly less frequent?

modern coral
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Yes, in-fact, maybe hard to believe.

jagged trail
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insanely hard to believe actually

fathom cloak
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im going to use burst cannon to shoot baby strikers

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repeatedly

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20 baby kills per mag

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so pro

junior latch
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huge

modern coral
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But there are obstacles enemies have to navigate, different animation sets cause enemies to move at different speeds, enemies that are too close can collide and throw themselves off of standard pathing, enemies intimidate if given too much time to think, etc.

visual lily
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Gib full auto canon pls

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Ratatatatata

jade iron
fathom cloak
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next patch every good special gets the HAR treatment

junior latch
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most of the time line ups are given when you can choose where to fight (and the map allows for it)

so many maps its just not gonna happen unless you intentionally pull a room

fathom cloak
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source: trust me bro

junior latch
jade iron
vestal crystal
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only chargers reliably run in straight lines, no?

jade iron
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and some of it is mitigated by overpen

jagged trail
vestal crystal
junior latch
jade iron
junior latch
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hel rifle having actual weaknesses to counteract its bonkers strengths

junior latch
jade iron
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if you want the "hel rifle is giga broken" argument you'll have to go find khepri

junior latch
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that was back in r5 fn

and from what i remember people underrated hel gun a lot for it

jade iron
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I just think it's clearly overtuned, relative to a baseline that I think has things like har, shotgun, choke mod, etc. on it

fathom cloak
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every time you mention khepri it makes me giggle

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^ow reference

jade iron
unreal crystal
fathom cloak
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whats up ms beth

unreal crystal
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Hello rixia

fathom cloak
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but fr i just hate the weird shot reset time

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or whatever you call it

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on hel r

junior latch
# jade iron I just think it's clearly overtuned, relative to a baseline that I think has thi...

HAR -> weak (stat wise weakish/balanced)
Shotgun -> balanced but stat wise actually somewhat weakish in a sense
Choke mod -> „strongish“, actually got hit heavily by bc and hel gun introduction for what it wants to do. But still good enough to have a niche

Id argue you are more likely to pick choke than hel rifle

shotgun is a low range all rounder and more preference. And who the f picks har

modern coral
# jade iron I feel like this is a fair point I should address. I think there can be a skill ...

Preempting things is good, but you can often do both, and HEL Rifle is bad at preempting threats since your value tanks if you aren't getting good pen shots (both in terms of needing to reload sooner and having a poor ammo economy apart from pen).

It's also not always something you have control over. Bad situations will sometimes arise, and somebody has to deal with it some way or another, and HEL Rifle offers few options in that regard. Especially for a weapon as selfish as HEL Rifle, you'd expect to be sacrificing that versatility in exchange for high value, and I don't think that's something you'll often achieve, especially when the meta seems to learn fairly heavily towards burst output over sustained output.

lone kestrel
modern coral
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GK2 user spotted.

lone kestrel
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😮

junior latch
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I loved HAR

lone kestrel
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I want ping noise

junior latch
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but fuck no will i play it with that recoil

lone kestrel
junior latch
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also @jade iron regarding your point earlier with HAR being efficient in r6

funnily enough, it was actually in line (or rather below) stuff like revolver and the machine guns vs giants

lone kestrel
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😉

vestal crystal
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hel rifle haters gonna be in shambles in r6d2 charger error alarm

jade iron
# junior latch HAR -> weak (stat wise weakish/balanced) Shotgun -> balanced but stat wise actua...

The recoil on HAR complicates the discussion. I think r6 HAR is probably the baseline I'd want a waveclear special at, hell I still think it's a little too potent into bigs. (Same DPS as current veruta, smaller clip but faster reload, roughly same range.) That we regard HAR as "weak" is an indictment of MG balance in the current game.
I stand by shotgun being balanced. (Well, pls patch sway bug 10cc)
The only thing about choke mod that makes me raise an eyebrow is the precision multi. The gun is better into bosses than it really has any right to be. Agreed that you probably are more likely to bring it than hel rifle, e.g. I still think it's correct in r7e1 due to all the slow tank fights and nearly no waveclear.

modern coral
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The radical anti-legacy position.

junior latch
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youd also rather bring choke as your supportive special

fathom cloak
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sir you're gonna send my pea brain into overdrive

junior latch
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but yeah i do consider shotgun very balanced and as always in the good spot

modern coral
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9-mag or bust

jade iron
fathom cloak
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HUH

lone kestrel
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They should give the revolver a 7 round mag for IRL accuracy purposes

modern coral
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W8, is the in-game cylinder actually 7 rounds?

lone kestrel
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No

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But it should be

jade iron
lone kestrel
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Because this is the future

junior latch
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BC just be broken

jade iron
jade iron
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if I were to nerf hel gun, first thing would be the damage

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< 15

junior latch
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you wont easily 2 tap scouts from the front (or c scouts at all from the front for that matter)

modern coral
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Restore R3 HEL Gun 🙏

junior latch
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same for bc

modern coral
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12.5(ish) damage, 0.35 charge-up.

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Save us.

unreal crystal
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ok but I like having really strong gun to crutch on

junior latch
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going below 20 would lower its small clear so much

jade iron
modern coral
lone kestrel
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Hear me out: what if you can replace one of your guns with morbin mode? Instead of bringing two guns, you can activate a mode that makes you invincible for 30 seconds and then you get +400% melee damage as well during this. To balance it, you have charges that are only refilled by ammo packs

jade iron
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The main advantage I think choke mod has over hel gun is precision multi.

modern coral
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But R3 HEL Gun is fun, trust.

lone kestrel
unreal crystal
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Ray I used it for the og d1 and I was so sad when I wouldn’t stagger a giant striker on a body shot

jade iron
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which is also why I think r6 sniper did more to invalidate choke mod than hel gun did

modern coral
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That is quite unfortunate.

junior latch
unreal crystal
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I would like to see how r3 hel gun played in current tho

junior latch
unreal crystal
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maybe I would actually have to get good at the game again

modern coral
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We all have to work hard to fight through the withdrawal.

unreal crystal
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it’s true

jade iron
vestal crystal
jade iron
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killing a tank with an ammo pack and a half is silly

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sniper doesn't do that

vestal crystal
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youre forgetting about scattergun

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byebye mom

jade iron
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scattergun has... other drawbacks

junior latch
unreal crystal
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what if i started running heroic heart and exclusively ran sawed off scattergun

jade iron
lone kestrel
jade iron
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I think hel gun is clearly too good against bigs

junior latch
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but yeah, to show what i mean with „i dont consider hel rifle weak but not strong either“

we can all agree its weaker than:
BC and hel gun

stronger than:
PR and HAR

Id rank hel rifle below:
Combat shotgun, revo and veruta

That leaves us with choke (i consider it better than hel rifle. Its also rly good in error situations of chargers. Has way better boss clear and trades potential efficiency vs speed in giant clear. Also way better vs snatcher and easier to use)

Arbalist (better vs smalls unless you get insane pen, worse otherwise. So hel rifle is prob above)

shotgun (which i do consider to be more versatile in exchange for lower range) i can see arguing for both here

and sniper ( a super niche gun thats slightly weakish due to only being the best vs giants and hybrids)

vestal crystal
# jade iron scattergun has... other drawbacks

it does, but the utility of bosskilling of chokemod was overshadowed heavily by both sniper and scattergun (for tank and mom respectively), and then its waveclear was worse than hel gun, so it was competing with 3 busted weapons that did their roles extremely well

modern coral
unreal crystal
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LMAO

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it would actually be so much fun but I’d feel terrible doing it

junior latch
lone kestrel
vestal crystal
modern coral
jade iron
modern coral
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Hard to disrespect.

junior latch
lone kestrel
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Yes

vestal crystal
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don't show fn the chokemod overdamage tech....

unreal crystal
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Sawed off sniper is pretty based

lone kestrel
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What about the most based loadout though? @modern coral

unreal crystal
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Or was…

junior latch
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I remember doing r6a1 and b1 with that and biotracker

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hell

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fucking stupid

lone kestrel
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Speaking of when does sawed off come back?

unreal crystal
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R5

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few years from now !

lone kestrel
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I can’t believe I have to wait another year

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LOL same thought

vestal crystal
junior latch
modern coral
lone kestrel
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Never tried double tap rifle tho 😦

modern coral
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Horrible eco, unless you land crazy accurate bursts.

lone kestrel
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Like DMR?

modern coral
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Or burst cancel, back in the day.

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DMR but you're literally not allowed to tap fire.

lone kestrel
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Oooo that sounds fun

modern coral
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W/out committing highly illegal actions, like picking up resource packs while shooting.

vestal crystal
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ray when i first started playing my first witnessing of double tap cancel was this korean player that used esc to cancel double tap every time

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i almost threw up

lone kestrel
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Lol

jade iron
# modern coral Preempting things is good, but you can often do both, and HEL Rifle is bad at pr...

Had your and eva's comments to respond to before, sorry.
Your points are fair enough as they stand, but I think they boil down to a lot of situational stuff that's hard to have a discord debate over. We probably won't get a sense of what true peak hel rifle performance is any time soon unless they nerf hel gun. I'll probably take on some homework tasks like r1c2 hel rifle solo at some point soon though, to try to get a better sense of it.

modern coral
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I will say, I have a very pub oriented playstyle.

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BD did back off of his HEL Rifle praise, but a lot of his perspective as far as I can tell is because he plays almost exclusively in statics.

junior latch
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BD?

unreal crystal
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Black dragon

junior latch
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ah

modern coral
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And in statics, your teammates being useless isn't really a problem since your teammates just aren't useless.

jade iron
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Man, at least I don't need to partake in the previous meta of bringing pump shotgun to r1c2 solo. That shit always looked dicey.

modern coral
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But in pubs, holy fuck I feel so weak with some loadouts.

unreal crystal
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I feel like I have to pick shit like sniper in pubs

unreal crystal
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Like r2e1 pubs im always on sniper and it kinda blows

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But man I can’t trust anyone to shoot the hybrids

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But I also can’t trust them to shoot the smalls

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Pubs just give me trust issues

jade iron
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I feel like sniper is an overcommit to the hybrid-killing role in r2e1

junior latch
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cant let them take bio in r2e1

jade iron
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but I don't play pubs, so I don't know

junior latch
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they just fucking die and aggro 3 rooms at once in the blood door zones

unreal crystal
unreal crystal
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and I like to practice sniping shadow giants as well so

jade iron
modern coral
# jade iron but I don't play pubs, so I don't know

I think one of the most baffling feelings you can get from pubs is the stark contrast between two different games where you can't put your finger on exactly what is different but, for whatever reason, things are just "happening" a lot more smoothly.

jade iron
vestal crystal
modern coral
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Running out of resources, enemies not dying, constantly at risk of wiping...
vs.
Overstocked on ammo, enemies don't reach you often, you're on high health and fairly safe...

Sometimes people contribute, and sometimes they just do not. You might not always be able to identify what's right or wrong, but it certainly will be.

lone kestrel
unreal crystal
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true

little ridge
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I feel like some people very underestimate how different those 3 cases are

elfin osprey
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uhm

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what is a pubs

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and what is a statics?

modern coral
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public lobby

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static as in "doesn't change," means you're playing with the same set of people consistently.

elfin osprey
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oh

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thats new stuff

gray pilot
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Do you ever play static pubs?

elfin osprey
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what is that game?

lone kestrel
gray pilot
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It’s playing in a public lobby with the same people because this game is forgotten

elfin osprey
lone kestrel
elfin osprey
lone kestrel
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My taps at home only have milk 😦

elfin osprey
elfin osprey
lone kestrel
sharp owl
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stop drinking milk and start drinking pilk

modern coral
unreal crystal
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@grizzled bison will be so happy to hear this

gray pilot
modern coral
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Indeed 😔

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We'll have a duo for each region.

gray pilot
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But who's gonna play R8 in 3 years then?

unreal crystal
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r8 is a myth

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its like a plastic carrot on a stick

gray pilot
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But the holy pizza chart

analog flicker
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Pineapple #1?

junior latch
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team the funny guy now turned on insta kill, perma sprint (in all directions) with no stam usage and running with heavy objects KEKW

jade iron
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how many levels do I have to gain before I can throw unlimited repellers noppThink

junior latch
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he seems to be leveling up between each stream

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he even has invulnerability now

rose nova
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couple weeks n they will just have noclip

junior latch
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just teleport to objective, teleport to extract

rose nova
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walks through a sleeper insta kills it

merry crypt
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holds 4 machine guns at once

rose nova
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scattergun :]

junior latch
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if they didnt have god mode they would even wipe xD

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like why play at that point

jade iron
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because finding baby is genuinely challenging, by the looks of it?

rose nova
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do u know how hard is it to
shoot

junior latch
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his friend also finally toggled cheats musicmommyOMEGALUL

jade iron
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they were trying to query neonate on terminal a few minutes ago

junior latch
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thats what happens when you dont actually play the game but an auto scroller

fair escarp
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Why do you care? If they are all ok with it in their group and they don't brag about being good at the game.. what is the problem. It is a PVE game.

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Some people just want to see what the content of a PVE game is without putting 100 of hours into it.

junior latch
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i can technically understand some cheating/modding if its rly too hard to you

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but if you go full lenghts and just use a walkthrough (no dmg taken/insta kill) and a ton of other cheats, in a game thats about giving you a challenge and being interesting due to that. Then you arent seeing any content

fair escarp
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The content for those people is not the challenge

rose nova
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no one is goin to their stream n talkin in it we r talkin here
we arent affectin em either by commentin it

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if we had these talks on their stream then yeah that would b like 'why what the fuck'

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but we r lettin em do the thing

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perfectly fine

fair escarp
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And talk in their back instead

junior latch
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huge brain

rose nova
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talkin on the back of someone on the internet must really hurt their feels specially fi they prob arent even here

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true

elfin osprey
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call in the frecking airstrike

fair escarp
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It's hard for you to understand that people view the world differently than you Eva i get jt

elfin osprey
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houston, we have the call in code black

junior latch
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i mean people also believe that climate change isnt an issue

rose nova
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i did cheats for some stuff mostly singleplayer n i can get that n doin it with friends cause its fun but like we can talk about other peoples content

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tell me u never made fun of a person being a meme w/o knowin it or somethin

quartz cape
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I am a known cheater

rose nova
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GASP

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betrayal

fair escarp
junior latch
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and again
theres legit reasons for cheating. Ive cheated in single player games before

but theres also the point when you stream yourself going through a game build around being a challenge/hard in full god mode on your first try

rose nova
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also if ur a streamer u are a public like person n people can talk about u
its like goin to a tv station live and then sayin

quartz cape
rose nova
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'why people r talkin about me?'

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like, u went there

torpid rose
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Windmills are bad because they stop air coming into a city, which heats it up and contributes to global warming

elfin osprey
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when the people choose to go public, to become known by social but they dont want to hear critize

elfin osprey
rose nova
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we should burn THE CITY-

elfin osprey
rose nova
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its not like i would never cheat in this game tbh
cause doin that shit must b fun, of course if everyone i play with agrees to do it

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but like goin to twitch n doin it like that

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i can talk about it

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they a public image now

rose nova
elfin osprey
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Alot of streamer in my country have that problem to

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When u are a public and still doing bad stuff

rose nova
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u get denounced n
appalled n
adjectives

frozen kite
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o.o...a streamer is playing this game and just cheating through the content...lol?

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what's the point? how is that entertaining?

elfin osprey
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i mean

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to explain that is really hard

unreal crystal
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what the fuck is going on LMFAO

analog flicker
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"I'm just good at kiting"

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Me: OkitaShocked

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Sure is a lot easier without stamina slowing you down

grizzled bison
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Or what if we had a windmill power a really big fan that pushes air into the city

analog flicker
grizzled bison
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I guess that wouldn't work because then the city would be too cold (global cooling)

pine root
elfin osprey
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No

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I frecking hate hotter weather

pine root
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Well, than die

elfin osprey
#

F the global warming

coarse grail
#

just build more nuclear power plants ☢️

elfin osprey
#

Me having to witstand 35°C everyday

#

Plz help

pine root
coarse grail
pine root
quartz cape
coarse grail
#

Do you expect me to argue soundly and in good faith when you throw a sarcastic allusion my way after a throwaway comment?

#

I'm just mouthing off my opinion after a bunch of shitposting happened on the topic, if you're a climate scientist and wanna go in depth on it then pop off king

quartz cape
#

no i want you to argue in good faith before that

pine root
#

I mean I shit post all the time. But I do make it obvious. Build more x meme isn’t that obvious. Def wrong to be sarcastic about its.but I continue shit posting

#

Thank you good sir

coarse grail
#

In honesty it is my opinion that nuclear power is good, but its a flippant comment because the whole situation is more complex than that, as you've acknowledged

pine root
#

It is good but it is just kicking the bucket down the road. It isn’t the solution to sustainability but tbh I don’t know what is. That is kinda the whole issue

coarse grail
#

It is kicking the bucket down the road but I have faith in technological innovation and I think in 50 years time we are going to be much more well equipped and a lot of the problems we worry about now will be gone

coarse grail
#

I could be wrong, but thats my opinion

sharp owl
#

Gtfo SUCKS

pine root
#

Na this is on topic

#

Botch

sharp owl
#

On topic: jish is a mega cutie

pine root
#

Back to the Cheater who be streaming

sharp owl
#

Who

coarse grail
#

anyway I'm glad we could end this amicably

last parrot
#

because chernobyl scary

pine root
quartz cape
sharp owl
#

Truly awful

#

We should ban this man immediately

last parrot
#

why are you floral

quartz cape
#

i used the ban evasion cheat

#

get owned

sharp owl
#

I thought only badger knew of this power

quartz cape
#

his power is making new accounts

sharp owl
quartz cape
#

my power is never getting banned in the first place

sharp owl
#

And I like feeling pretty

sharp owl
last parrot
#

makes sense

pine root
#

Knife is better than old hammer

#

Tbh

sharp owl
#

I prefer old hammer shove to cancel charge

#

It feels nicer than fucking uncharge?? Idk

#

Like

#

Going from charging to stop charging and then shove

#

Feels so fucking weird

#

Aftwr playing r4/5

#

Anyone else or am i delusional

quartz cape
#

sorry but you're wrong

wraith marsh
#

current hammer is so much more comfortable ngl

last parrot
#

knife uncharge twirl is cooler

sharp owl
#

Counter argument: ur mum

quartz cape
#

i prefer current hammer to the old one, the faster charge feels so much better

sharp owl
#

Breaking locks at half charge feels bettet

#

I didnt pay attention to much else

#

Also gavel just looks better

#

This is the truth

#

Factual and undeniable

wraith marsh
#

queueing attacks is also a lot easier with new one fsr

sharp owl
#

Also true

#

And that feels way nicer

quartz cape
#

sorry, maul stays winning

sharp owl
#

Nuh uhh

wraith marsh
#

im ngl I thought id like 1 tap occi more but it feels kinda like a false positive a lot of the time and I HATE that

pine root
#

Honestly it is all that I like about current over old

wraith marsh
#

the amount of charge required to make it consistent is so small I dont really mind doing it every time

pine root
#

I think I have a skill issue but if you fuck up in current light stagger

#

Just clutches

wraith marsh
#

queueing attacks easier with current also helps in that situation

pine root
#

Yeah r5 is brutal with that.

sharp owl
#

Midair charge is nice

pine root
#

Also man r5 sleepers tend to stick to me

#

Way more

#

Than post r6 sleepers

sharp owl
#

R5 room layouts trollirredeemable

wraith marsh
#

imagine if you had full air control of hammer with bhopping

#

it was already bad enough

sharp owl
pine root
#

Sleepers also attack way slower in post r6 I feel like

#

Maybe I be stupid but holy

sharp owl
#

Maybe the game is just in slow motion

wraith marsh
#

yeah they do feel a lot more aggressive in r5, I havent really played that much so I cant quite tell why yet

sharp owl
#

Any glowstick proximity enjoyers

quartz cape
#

terminal use speed

junior latch
sharp owl
boreal forge
#

Haven't played before, anyone willing to show me the ropes??

rose nova
#

hellooo
u can find people to play in the lfg

#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
serene berry
#

as an R7 baby, going back to prerelease hammer, its sooo different. it was really really hard for me to get a feel for it.

rose nova
#

i tried it too n yeah it feels weird

serene berry
#

skill issue for me but it happened so many times where i thought i was charging my next shot and i wasn't. all the small changes add up to it feeling like a different game

pine root
#

But you have to be good

serene berry
pine root
serene berry
junior latch
#

it still feels off

#

the way it charges (or doesnt) isnt fun to use

#

but the lack of stagger in exchange for occi for sure gives it more skill expression

analog flicker
analog flicker
#

the thing about old hammer that oddly bothers me is needing to full charge locks

#

Also right clicking to cancel your charge will shove unlike the new one just bringing the weapon back to resting state

wraith marsh
#

How tf

#

Bro it took killing like 2 guys for me to notice

#

I love gtfo, so much gaslighting to be done

tidal jay
#

Fuck R3d1

#

Annoying ass level

#

Why can a fucking mother just scream and cover the entire room with fog

#

Well that's more of a sleeper complain than a level complain

#

Still fuck R3d1

rose nova
#

its funny how theres always someone hatin on the best level of the rundown

#

funks

tidal jay
#

What are the syringes for anyways? I haven't noticed anything when using them

tidal jay
#

Level is fun

#

It's the typical frustration you get before you finally beat it

rose nova
#

ah the yellow syringes gives u a 3x melee boost for one hit

tidal jay
#

R2E1 is one of my favorite expeditions, no less one of the ones I hate most

rose nova
#

i hate r1c2
i love r1c2

#

fuck u c2

tidal jay
#

Based

#

That's the first generator level right

rose nova
#

nope

tidal jay
#

C1?

rose nova
#

is the choirgers

rose nova
tidal jay
#

Yeah that was the one I meant

#

I hate C1 as well

rose nova
#

c2 is the choirgers level

#

i meant c2

#

:]

tidal jay
#

I don't remember C2 much

rose nova
#

play it again ah

tidal jay
#

Yeah sure

#

Let me beat R3D1 before I do that tho

rose nova
#

oki :]

last parrot
thick temple
#

Just simple wave holdout level
Entire games are based around that

tidal jay
last parrot
#

you should play it again if you're better

#

reactor levels are always tons of fun

serene berry
#

and then once you are quite practiced, you will go back to hating R1C1 because its the most basic and repetitive of the reactors

eternal maple
#

Still just a fun shooting level though

#

R2D2 will always fucking slap though

coarse grail
#

Don't like R2C1. The whole level I'm just walking through pea soup

wraith marsh
#

I'd rather do r3d1, r2d2, r3a3, or r7d2 for shooting

junior latch
#

r1c1 is just boring to shoot

junior latch
#

so much down time

#

straight line only smalls with rare giants/hybrids

coarse grail
wraith marsh
#

It'd be even more boring then

serene berry
#

infectious fog is exactly like* regular fog, except it makes everyone go even slower

storm quartz
#

That's only if you concede to it

eternal maple
#

Embrace infection, reject HP

serene berry
#

i have played with new kids on the block too much

#

i can lead a newbie to infectious fog, but i cannot force them to drink

lyric anchor
#

anyone want to play?

#

im really new tho

sharp owl
#

.lfg

#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
lyric anchor
#

huh?

sharp owl
#

mb

#

start by making a lobby and post the code in one of the lfg channels

lyric anchor
#

where do i see the code?

#

im terrible with computers

sharp owl
#

top right of the lobby screen

#

should be a button

#

that says "copy id to clipboard"

#

move your cursor far left

#

or @lyric anchor join gtfo-5 and i can stream how you make the lobby

lyric anchor
#

got it copied

sharp owl
#

post the code #lfg-beginners or any other lfg channels, alongside with the level you chose and the voice chat in this discord

#

so like LFG 3 more, {lobby code}, {level number}, [voice chat num]

lyric anchor
#

i dont think that worked

sharp owl
#

it worked

#

i see your post

lyric anchor
#

ok cool

sharp owl
#

but for ppl to join you you should be in one of the voice channels

#

so they can do comms with you

lyric anchor
#

im in num 5

#

yey

coarse grail
#

theres a 3 person lobby for the same level in channel 12

#

if you join them now

lyric anchor
#

ok cool

sharp owl
#

have fun

rose nova
#

for when u post the message again, u can join a voice channel, right click, 'copy link' n paste it in the message with the code

#

that way people can join ur voice channel and ur lobby

stuck jacinth
#

hey guys im pretty new to the game and i see that you can only play current rundowns? is it possible to start from the beginning or is just gone?

serene berry
#

they are in the process of re-adding all of them, alt4 is coming out next, followed by altR5 and altR6 after that.
altR1 is the most beginning of the game there is. and its also a good starting point.

#

R = Rundown

last parrot
#

r1 is significantly easier because its an introduction to the game

#

the tutorial teaches you the mechanics

#

r1 shows you how to apply them

analog flicker
#

Back in the OG R1 days when people took hours on R1A1

little ridge
#

You know, I used to watch a lot of let's plays before buying GTFO

#

despite having played the alpha and the beta test

#

And I had a 100% different idea of how big maps were

#

Like, R1D1 looked enourmous

thick temple
#

yeah this game always had a very skewed sense of map scale to me before i actually got it

wraith marsh
#

same

#

interesting

pine root
#

The maps feel really big when starting out

#

Very tiny now a days

serene berry
#

i wonder what phoenix fruit is an innuendo for

pine root
#

Most normal gtfo chatter

twin sluice
#

LOL

serene berry
#

RIP in roblox in peace

primal osprey
#

JOIN NOW LFG-R2E1

outer lantern
serene berry
primal osprey
#

@outer lantern den dont play the game

primal osprey
rose nova
#

no

wicked solstice
foggy plankBOT
willow knoll
rose nova
#

remember to not join w/o an invite

wicked solstice
rose nova
#

this time dont go jumpin between channels

#

:]

rose nova
willow knoll
rose nova
#

for
joinin a vc

wicked solstice
rose nova
#

how does that make sense

thick temple
#

they didn't even advertise where to go

rose nova
#

yeah R2E1 is a levek

#

whats even that channel

serene berry
serene berry
foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

wohhh

primal osprey
thick temple
#

you didn't though

willow knoll
foggy plankBOT
autumn bobcat
foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

oh god

wicked solstice
#

XD

rose nova
#

temptation is killin me

primal osprey
rose nova
#

someone stop me skdmk

thick temple
#

you advertised you're looking for people for a certain level, that's not where to go if they want to join lol

willow knoll
foggy plankBOT
rose nova
foggy plankBOT
foggy plankBOT
thick temple
foggy plankBOT
serene berry
#

yuuuuuus

rose nova
#

i love this

primal osprey
serene berry
#

moooooore!

thick hornet
foggy plankBOT
foggy plankBOT
serene berry
wicked solstice
rose nova
#

almost like u join those voice channels through the:

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

and not jumpin randomly either

#

between vcs

#

RIGHHHHHT

#

:D

serene berry
#

: D

rose nova
#

||theres an option to disable automatic emojis||

thick hornet
#

:D

rose nova
#

||in case ur interested||

#

:D

primal osprey
#

the reason we in this chat is to play the game shut

#

up

wicked solstice
rose nova
#

nooo we talk about the game
if u wanna join a lobby please use the

#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
thick temple
#

you are indeed wrong

wicked solstice
#

this chat is for discussing GTFO

serene berry
#

name of chat: chat

thick temple
#

this is for talking about the game

#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
willow knoll
thick temple
#

is for playing

serene berry
#

got it

rose nova
#

gtfo chat

primal osprey
willow knoll
#

Especially when Mr Frederickson beat up that construction worker

wicked solstice
serene berry
#

or talking about talking anout the game

#

like rn

thick hornet
wicked solstice
#

this is not an LFG channel

#

thank you

rose nova
serene berry
#

i liked the part about the balloons

wicked solstice
#

and also please keep the language clean

unreal crystal
#

what the frick

wicked solstice
#

-_-

thick hornet
#

darn

rose nova
#

this was so good

serene berry
#

"blood" doors

rose nova
#

oh i love this

#

im in tears from laughin skmdksmd

serene berry
#

i was cackling that whole time

rose nova
#

SAME

serene berry
#

this was great

thick temple
thick hornet
#

this was amazing

thick temple
foggy plankBOT
serene berry
#

you know you had to do it to em

thick hornet
#

I wonder if there'll be a sequel

willow knoll
rose nova
#

ahhh my lungs i cant MKSMDKMDK

wicked solstice
serene berry
#

he is typing like there will be KEKW

willow knoll
#

GUYS

serene berry
#

MENS

rose nova
#

no leave it skmdkmsdk they already damaged after this oh god ksmdkm

wicked solstice
#

🫱 🫁

pine root
rose nova
#

u dont want them

#

:]

wicked solstice
#

too bad

#

ur lungs

#

mine

willow knoll
unreal crystal
wicked solstice
foggy plankBOT
rose nova
willow knoll
rose nova
#

.t gtfo

foggy plankBOT
#

The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

primal osprey
#

yall are sum else. i cant see if anybody want to play the game cuz im in the "wrong" chat

#

we all play this game like tf

wicked solstice
serene berry
foggy plankBOT
foggy plankBOT
thick temple
#

cause there are specific chats for seeing if people want to play the game tf

rose nova
primal osprey
rose nova
#

lots of points

willow knoll
rose nova
pine root
#

Wavy jay is my new favourite rendition to gtfo regulars

rose nova
#

check em

thick temple
serene berry
wicked solstice
#

yes

serene berry
foggy plankBOT
foggy plankBOT
unreal crystal
#

hes just a troll anyway lmao

thick hornet
unreal crystal
#

it is

rose nova
#

yeah absolutly but it is hilarious

#

this is revenge for yesterday n today im havin so much fun skdmkmsd

primal osprey
serene berry
willow knoll
autumn bobcat
thick temple
#

you got dunked on by an entire chat for like 10 minutes bro

pine root
serene berry
#

867530943069 no join my game bro

primal osprey
serene berry
#

Jish game stimky

#

my game new hotness

primal osprey
#

we live 2 different lives

rose nova
#

u a cat or somethin?

willow knoll
foggy plankBOT
unreal crystal
#

we r not the same 🐺

pine root
#

Jay isn’t joining my lobby 😭

rose nova
#

they have two lifes OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO

primal osprey
#

no we aint

#

im in one

willow knoll
rose nova
unreal crystal
#

i go into lobbies and accuse ppl of false shit 🐺

autumn bobcat
rose nova
#

destroy that lobby

unreal crystal
#

im so cool

rose nova
#

send it to the ether

wicked solstice
pine root
#

Come to mine we will play any level you want

#

In half the time

rose nova
#

theyll carry u

#

its true

serene berry
rose nova
#

carryin in this game is great i promise

pine root
autumn bobcat
foggy plankBOT
primal osprey
#

ard snm. ima finish this n join yu. dont be bitchin

wicked solstice
pine root
#

Wait code has changed

rose nova
pine root
#

109775241050789212

#

It will change again by the time you need it

wicked solstice
#

my man LFG'ed in here, argued ab it, and got 3 ppl from the actual LFG channels

#

rip bozo ig

thick hornet
#

suffering from success

willow knoll
pine root
willow knoll
#

massive w

serene berry
#

the audacity of this wavy beach

pine root
#

Rule 7 abusers. What can you say

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

oh god just get em out send cats to their dms till they pass out from cuteness

#

oh god that was so fun

#

im gonna go to eat

foggy plankBOT
wicked solstice
foggy plankBOT
willow knoll
rose nova
#

such good info

#

:D

serene berry
primal osprey
willow knoll
autumn bobcat
foggy plankBOT
serene berry
wicked solstice
serene berry
foggy plankBOT
coarse grail
#

Christ what happened here

balmy moat
#

109775241048029959

rose nova
wicked solstice
foggy plankBOT
primal osprey
#

yu not in a chat

pine root
#

Come find me

serene berry
#

😉

pine root
#

Game chat

#

I am banned from speaking in the discord

#

Mods could explain

foggy plankBOT
primal osprey
#

109775241054851812

#

join me i cant join yu

autumn bobcat
foggy plankBOT
wicked solstice
foggy plankBOT
willow knoll
willow knoll
foggy plankBOT
pine root
#

Guys I can’t see the code

thick hornet
foggy plankBOT
wicked solstice
thick hornet
#

oooh I've got a fancy orange name now

willow knoll
pine root
serene berry
foggy plankBOT
pine root
#

Could I get the code in morse code

#

Team pls

primal osprey
#

check lfg

wicked solstice
#

..-...-.-..----..--.---..-

pine root
#

Where is that

serene berry
#

Wavy actually throwing not posting in braille

primal osprey
#

stop b*tchin n join

serene berry
autumn bobcat
willow knoll
serene berry
pine root
#

I need a link to lfg

primal osprey
#

yu a nut see i knew it

pine root
#

Yeah wasting your time is fun 🤩

primal osprey
#

if yu aint goin join dont join man

serene berry
#

wavy, you have a carry, just link lfg to them

#

you got this

primal osprey
#

yu not wasting shit but ya breath

serene berry
#

you are rounding third

thick hornet
#

this is what you trained for wavy

serene berry
#

what was that training montage for if not this??

pine root
#

Idk man maybe you should keep notes on peoples profile so you know who will troll you

#

!!!

primal osprey
#

matter fact ima send yu the code in dm. if yu dont join yu a nut

serene berry
#

the grande finals

pine root
#

He is learning

gray pilot
wicked solstice
#

my brain dying from reading yu instead of u or you

#

oh hey fireblade

#

we did a bit of trollinh

pine root
#

hey mr blade could you carry wavy

gray pilot
pine root
#

He needs some help

gray pilot
#

Im sorry this is gtfo chat

willow knoll
serene berry
#

he can't read chat names

primal osprey
#

no yu dont need help from another boul. stand up for yaself

wicked solstice
#

dw i still having a stroke from u yu you

gray pilot
primal osprey
#

yes

serene berry
gray pilot
wicked solstice
#

i read yu as why you

primal osprey
#

im waiting @pine root

pine root
#

For what

willow knoll
primal osprey
#

join my game

wicked solstice
#

rip bozo

serene berry
autumn bobcat
pine root
#

Give me one sec gotta download gtfo mobile

quartz cape
#

🇸🇬

primal osprey
#

yea ard

thick hornet
autumn bobcat
serene berry
#

GTFO VR

willow knoll
wicked solstice
#

gtfo+

serene berry
#

Aand imma join rq rq fr fr

pine root
#

Sniper melee go crazy on public transit

willow knoll
#

when the imposter is yu

serene berry
#

GOTTEM

willow knoll
thick hornet
#

📸

serene berry
willow knoll
pine root
#

I feel like I said I was wasting his time out loud

willow knoll
#

The mods writing the ban message

serene berry
thick hornet
primal osprey
#

yu right

serene berry
#

HE JUST KEPT SWALLOING HOOKS

#

ONE AFTER ANOTHER

willow knoll
serene berry
#

I AM WEEPING

primal osprey
#

cuz he a nut

#

thats all yu got it bro

pine root
#

Aren’t we all nuts at the end of the day

willow knoll
quartz cape
#

you guys are just mad cause wavyjay has over 150 million power in rise of kingdoms

serene berry
#

nuuuuuut

pine root
#

That is where we came from

unreal crystal
#

LOL

willow knoll
#

👴

#

old person facebook

thick hornet
#

👴

quartz cape
#

🇸🇬

pine root
#

Team this was fun thanks for my entertainment

#

Time to go steal candy from children

#

Gl gl

thick hornet
serene berry
#

gl hf, godspeed

wicked solstice
#

well that was interesting Sweating