theory falls flat constantly in this game vs practiec
#gtfo-chat
fair escarp
wispy bluff
They are too fast for it.
fair escarp
in theory you could get all lined up properly everytime so it should be able to hold wave
but in practice, it doesn't happen
wispy bluff
And by the time you put comfortable range between you and them - the thing no longer oneshots.
rose nova
the theory would b true
ig the game was like dark deception and it was only hallways
fair escarp
they keep doing that though. theory this, theory that, then you put it in practice and it is either not gonna work, or it requires so much effort from the player that anything else can do a better job with more easy access
rose nova
i mean this is scientific comprobation its ok to have a theory
u just need to prove it
its ok to make a funky hypothesis to then drop down to a level to see how it works out with the actual facts
fair escarp
ok but then it's the case of the "machinegun is good guys", but in practice the revolver does a better job at everything then machinegun and faster
fair escarp
yes
fair escarp
they have the same role overall of clearing wave
really fast
except revolver is just faster at it
even if you have a reload
last parrot
revo is just an amazing gun
fair escarp
and a player who mastered revolver doesn't care about chargers which i suppose to be the weakness of the gun
rose nova
...ok lets see
revo has 85 dmg in a mag, needs the headshots to one shot, so its more so a precision weapon
machinegun doesnt need headshots, its made for body shots, it has very low dmg and a big mag which has more than 200 damage per mag, this is talkin about the two machineguns, one has about 210 the other like 260
a machinegun full ammo has about 5 or 6 mags, revo has 8 or 9, so revo is more prone to reloads as therefore is weaker when clearin enemies cause u need to reload, less damage with big boys, and needs the headshots
revo is a good weapon tho cause the reload is fast and still is nice dmg
i think theres a difference between what a gun is made for, and what a gun is capable of
elfin osprey
Uhmmm
rose nova
revo can absolutely clear waves, but machinegun is made for clearin big waves
elfin osprey
Why are u comparing a crouwd control weapon with a precise weapon
rose nova
EXACTLY
fair escarp
machinegun needs to stay accurate with constant recoil is what you overlook
elfin osprey
What accurate?
fair escarp
cause revolver can solo hold wave pretty easily 🙂
elfin osprey
Its a spray and pray gun
rose nova
it only needs body shots, a good player can control the recoil, and a revo needs the headshots
its two different things
rose nova
machinegun is way easier hittin bigger targets too
rose nova
both guns can absolutely do the same thing, but machinegun is the best one at it
if u cant control it
and u do headshots better
thats kinda on the player
and the holdin position
elfin osprey
Still
fair escarp
ridiculous weapon
elfin osprey
Ur comparing 2 diffrent guns
fair escarp
they both are geared toward clearing big wave fast
revolver delete waves faster then machine gun
and waste less ammo
rose nova
they both can kill the same amount
abouts
45 for machinegun 52 for revo
small boys
so
elfin osprey
im still confusing about this conversation
junior latch
and waste less ammo
so now ammo is an issue o.O?
rose nova
i just dont think revo is faster
elfin osprey
why are u comparing 2 diffrent guns
rose nova
i just dont think these two guns should b compared like that either
fair escarp
so now ammo is an issue o.O?
if you keep wasting ammo, it will become an issue yes
elfin osprey
u are putting 2 diffrent guns, doing the same job
fair escarp
that is simple cause an effect
junior latch
but yeah at top level revo clears wave more consistently and is better unless enemies are rly close already. Then veruta staggers and kills far better
elfin osprey
the first thing u should always frecking consider is that they need to have atleast 1 similarity so that u can compare
fair escarp
the first thing u should always frecking consider is that they need to have atle...
they have the same job. that's your similarity
elfin osprey
in order to compare both guns, u should put them in the same situation
they both have 100 accurancy
fair escarp
in the same situation, revolver is better and faster
elfin osprey
what situation
fair escarp
clearing big waves
rose nova
at the end not only they r not kinda the same on bullet efficiency and amount of kills for the same enemies
revo needs headshots and thats just the players skill at that point, same way machinegun needs bodyshots and recoil controls
elfin osprey
u are just comparing the job
elfin osprey
why dont u put it in the situation when guns all hit their bullet
rose nova
cause it goes both ways
rose nova
why dont u put it in the situation when guns all hit their bullet
then revo yeah might b faster clearin waves as long as u can reload cancel fast
and can hit headshots from afar
not lettin the enemies come close
elfin osprey
then revo yeah might b faster clearin waves as long as u can reload cancel fast
yes, but still
elfin osprey
why dont u compare it in the situation when every shot hit
rose nova
is about their capacity at somethin
rose nova
why dont u compare it in the situation when every shot hit
cause we talkin of the situation they r in
not the guns themselves
elfin osprey
fare enough
rose nova
but- this convo is probs over either way
fair escarp
why dont u compare it in the situation when every shot hit
cause machinegun will NEVER have an accuracy of 100% in practice
rose nova
elfin osprey
man just asume we dont have 100 accurancy on machine gun
fair escarp
man just asume we dont have 100 accurancy on machine gun
if we do that then it still lose the revolver
rose nova
would b so fun
elfin osprey
i wish i had a 100% accuracy with revo
yea, i wish i have that to
fair escarp
and that's what i am saying all along
rose nova
even i just like crouchin in a hallway miss
fair escarp
im not good
you want a trik for that, learn the animation of the enemies, their heads will always be in the same position and when you learn that position, it doesn't matter how close they are to you. start with that
rose nova
i always hit below the head
junior latch
cause machinegun will NEVER have an accuracy of 100% in practice
in the same way it will also hit headshots at times
efficency wise a perfect machine gun > perfect revo
revo is easier to be "perfect" with. But once both guns fall out of perfect, like when you are heavily pushed (doesnt even have to be chargers) it has more stagger potential by far
revo overall in a practical situation on a good player is better to clear out waves
rose nova
you want a trik for that, learn the animation of the enemies, their heads will a...
ik the animation i do try to like aim to where they r gonna b but if they r close i just die
fair escarp
that's on you to not panic
elfin osprey
in the same way it will also hit headshots at times
efficency wise a perfect ma...
great point eva
rose nova
i have 170 hours or so im still scared
tidal jay
I'll try to do solo bots R3D1: BianHua tonight. Without spoiling, any suggestion?
rose nova
dont die :D
fair escarp
in the same way it will also hit headshots at times
efficency wise a perfect ma...
you still only require about 50% headshot at best .. amybe 70% at worst to clear waves
elfin osprey
I'll try to do solo bots R3D1: BianHua tonight. Without spoiling, any suggestion...
shoot alot
elfin osprey
and dont be panic
tidal jay
shoot alot
Solots of waveclear? Hel revolver and combat shotgun?
rose nova
you still only require about 50% headshot at best .. amybe 70% at worst to clear...
no, no i did the calculates if u hit every headshot with revo n u hit every bodshot with machinegun
all the dmg combined is about 47 to 52 with revo winnin
but its not
50% or so
elfin osprey
Solots of waveclear? Hel revolver and combat shotgun?
its just dumb
u will see
heheee
tidal jay
Noted
rose nova
:D
rose nova
prob two sentries bio n mines??
fair escarp
no, no i did the calculates if u hit every headshot with revo n u hit every bods...
the cap of waves will never go above 25 enemies
elfin osprey
just some basic tool will be good
rose nova
the cap of waves will never go above 25 enemies
ah takin the cap into account i just guessed with all the bullets
elfin osprey
What tool?
1 bio 1 mine 2 sentry
rose nova
then idk
modern coral
they keep doing that though. theory this, theory that, then you put it in practi...
?
I base some takes on the weapon stats, but I base a lot of it off of gameplay as well.
I rate Veruta quite highly because I've played a lot of Veruta, and I think it's quite potent in a lot of situations.
elfin osprey
YAY I DID IT i did say it
its obvious
rose nova
its obvious
no shush >:3
i havent played d1 ksmdk
elfin osprey
most level need mines deployer
rose nova
i just know some parts
elfin osprey
I mean
junior latch
most level need mines deployer
eh
a lot of r1-r3 are more sentry based tbf
modern coral
Gameplay is also generally why I dislike HEL Rifle. It just happens there's stat reasons involved as well.
tidal jay
No Cfoam?
elfin osprey
eh
a lot of r1-r3 are more sentry based tbf
But still, u have a base loadout for every level
tidal jay
Interesting, okay
elfin osprey
Then twist it
junior latch
also ray
regarding hel rifle, i think the best it can do is on a level like r6d2 with bright longish sight lines for chargers to run through
elfin osprey
To fit that level
last parrot
with exceptions of course
junior latch
i mean base loadout is cfoam, mines, bio, sentry (burst) for me
rose nova
no yeah thats the base
junior latch
bio and sentry being omnipresent basically
elfin osprey
Sniper sentry nerf really make it bad without bio
sharp owl
base loadout for me is long gun, hel rifle, shotgun sentry and spear
junior latch
boosters
junior latch
rose nova
or bullpup
rose nova
i actually just get health boosters n i just discard em
elfin osprey
When u can 1 shot giant with hammer
storm jasper
hey i have a network error: no connection issue on my gtfo, does anyone have a solution?
junior latch
but yeah i usually do it for weird stuff like cpu speed shotgun sentry
junior latch
hey i have a network error: no connection issue on my gtfo, does anyone have a s...
restart
rose nova
is it that easy
storm jasper
restart
i did... didnt help, tried reinstalling, deleting that appdata thingy all didnt help
junior latch
thats what works when i had it once or twice
but ... i know theres the same thing going on sometimes where it doesnt help
rose nova
maybe u could find somethin in #1049599987878723635
cause ive seen posts like that
and if u dont find a solution consider makin a post there about it
storm jasper
maybe u could find somethin in <#1049599987878723635>
ok sure, thanks for the advice
rose nova
give it 4 bullets
sharp owl
I think 2 tbh 4 is too many it would still be OP
rose nova
maybe 1
sharp owl
gtfo needs a rocket launcher tbh
and u should be able to rocket jump
at the cost of some hp
I also think we should add a a big fucking animesword melee weapon that lets you hit multiple enemies at once
and I think we also need a body armour dlc for 69.99 that gives you 80% damage reduction
and I think they should fix all the bugs tho that might be a bit controversial
yeah idk about that last one
but the rest should get added
rose nova
i want a bat skin
sharp owl
we need loot boxes so u can unbox skins for ur weapons
and have a whole gtfo trading economy
wispy bluff
Ah, the kf2 route
last parrot
we need a built in mapmaking program
sharp owl
we need a slowrun.com page where we record the slowest times submitted in #gtfo-media
hollow quarry
It’s always interesting with balance: do you lower the viability of one thing och raise the others?
hollow quarry
🥹
last parrot
It’s always interesting with balance: do you lower the viability of one thing oc...
harder game > easier game
imopinion
sharp owl
Ok bot user
rose nova
me
last parrot
the bots are fine
wispy bluff
I mean, it depends... When you got 4 weapons of same role - I guess either way is viable.
Waframe lost that privilege ages ago. When you have 200 weapons and suddenly there is a new hot boy in town who oneshots everything in your FoV - the choice for which hammer to nail is easy.
@hollow quarry
rose nova
yeah but in this case is backwards
there was one now theres 200
and the new hot boy in town was always there
so he needs the bucket of water to b tonned down
or
the others get buffed
shy vine
burnt flume
yea, should be a button on the left of the screen, called Training I think
rose nova
yes :D
junior latch
I mean, it depends... When you got 4 weapons of same role - I guess either way i...
the issue is making hammer shit to play
the stagger reduction makes hammer still rly good but more in line
gilded sail
What should I do regarding a player using hacks on stream?
rose nova
um if they r hackin on this server report em on @foggy plank
if they just on twitch or somethin i dont think theres anythin to do
rose nova
then yeah nothin, we cant ban em
pine root
Nothing to do
gilded sail
F
pine root
They don’t be hurting anyone
rose nova
well hope they playin mods n not ruinin other player stuff
gilded sail
ig I'll just troll em
wispy bluff
Only make fun of them
pine root
Lol I see what you mean
wispy bluff
We did that before
Some guy couldn't get through R7B1 with all the cheats in the world
Not enough brain power or something, idk
Can't cheat that
wispy bluff
Deh meat is bak on the menu, boyz
pine root
5 uses fog repeller
He is just to good
unreal crystal
should he
junior latch
you gotta see the gameplay to appreciate such recoil control beth
i love the stealth but insta shoot anyway
pine root
Every time I look on twitch
I forget that everyone doesn’t just kill things without discrimination
last parrot
what
sharp owl
anyone willing to run some low tiers, i cant seem to matchmake anyone..
last parrot
matchmaking is slow because most people use the lfg in this server
pine root
they went afk
junior latch
and then restarted?
pine root
i guess
rose nova
anyone willing to run some low tiers, i cant seem to matchmake anyone..
yeh like coz said u can ask for people to play on #lfg-beginners n see how to join others people lobbies on #how-to-matchmake
just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
quartz cape
lets not
primal osprey
lets not
how bout this one. "BPASFMETASDF" (Black People Are Suffering From Mass Encarceration They Are Sent Down First.)
grizzled bison
so true WavyJay!
rose nova
jesus christ
misty lodge
vocal forge
hey
rose nova
hoi!
vocal forge
german?
rose nova
there's a server in #hc-europe
vocal forge
oh okay, thanks
rose nova
good luck findin people :]c
vocal forge
thanks, its very hard finding people :\
rose nova
thanks, its very hard finding people :\
yeah in case ur tryin with the in-game matchnaking system
dont
just use the LFG in the server
vocal forge
sorry for the question. what means LFG? ( sorry, my english is bad :\ )
rose nova
its okii
LFG stands for Looking For Group, is a system to look for other players to play with
this server has a lot of LFG channels, where people can go lookin for lobbies to join, but im not sure if the other different language GTFO servers have them, i would guess they do tho
vocal forge
oh, okay. i can a little bit english, but i can sometimes understand.
rose nova
maybe you could still ask for german players on #lfg-eastern-europe and #lfg-western-europe
in case you dont want to join other GTFO discord servers
tardy dawn
GTFO has lost its online number on Steam. Is the game dead?
elfin osprey
GTFO has lost its online number on Steam. Is the game dead?
its not ded, its just players are more online at weekend and also on a specific time
hidden fossil
want to play @elfin osprey
elfin osprey
make a proper lfg post and someone will join
brisk haven
do you have autism?
elfin osprey
do you have autism?
is that right?
elfin osprey
do you have autism?
Imperfect Wrath#0117
his id
i guess he block u so u cant see his message
coarse grail
I don't think thats how that works
coarse grail
if someone blocks you it wouldn't change anything. if you block someone else then it collapses their message but it still appears
coarse grail
I think he might just be a rude dude
elfin osprey
I think he might just be a rude dude
i guess im gonna ignore him then
what a waste of time trying to explain stuff
also, by the look of the profile, he has just join today
brisk haven
settle down okay?
little ridge
What's the point of streaming GTFO if you're going to cheat
Not bug abuse eh, just plain cheating
endless fog repellers and bottomless magazines
junior latch
no recoil, no ammo spend (tool does tho?)
packs are also limitless (but transform into 5 uses anyway)
little ridge
He's also 1hitting everything
I like how the other dude (not bot dauda) is close to him as if somehow it would matter
little ridge
you're right he doesn't (maybe, hard to tell if he's toggling it but whatever)
junior latch
he just toggled smth but i cant clip since i hate follow only chat
elfin osprey
also
the funny cheater is back at it
who is it
streaming+ cheating
do they have no shame
burnt flume
the wardens strongest soldier
junior latch
same as yesterday
elfin osprey
or better word, do they even have embaressment?
cheating and then streaming
whats the point of that
burnt flume
they probably don't care
but this guy throwing 300 fog repellers about is really messing with my head
elfin osprey
proving cheating should be allow?
what the fuc is wrong with those guy, proving their failure by not able to beat the game normal route because its "too hard"
elfin osprey
(this is how asian roast)
elfin osprey
oh, followers only chat as well
failure sign
when u cant handle roast
normal roast
asian roast would probalby send them to sheshush
burnt flume
hm might as well report them on twitch
green rivet
but this guy throwing 300 fog repellers about is really messing with my head
It’s a feature 
analog flicker
send them to met tha asian doom parents
You die of emotional anxiety before even meeting them
serene cove
If you complete like secondary and efficiency and that do you also get apparel unlocks or no
rose nova
nope
serene cove
Ive only wanted 3 different apparel and Ive unlocked like 44+ different things and still havent gotten those specific apparel its very frustrating to have RNG for cosmetics
little ridge
Ive only wanted 3 different apparel and Ive unlocked like 44+ different things a...
Keep in mind that some "apparel" is only for specific rewards (Lugubrious palette) or time limited (tigris mask)
serene cove
Keep in mind that some "apparel" is only for specific rewards (Lugubrious palett...
No I know that.
I think I have 12 more things I can unlock from doing missions for the first time but only 7 more levels I havent done yet.
The ones I want to unlock are all from doing missions for the first time
I missed out on the tiger one
(Eightball, Kovac Pro-Car Elite, & Convex Scorpian Mark I) - These the ones I want
Ive only got 1 more palette and 1 more torso to get
So those are guaranteed now I think
last parrot
lots of changes happening today
rose nova
:D
elfin osprey
R3D1 is a fucking permanent alarm?
no
tidal jay
That's rough
elfin osprey
just put tha baby in
alarm stop
then kill mom
permanent alarm is in r2c2
but that first part with error alarm somehow is the reason why some players failed to do that level
tidal jay
Is Hel revolver + Combat shotgun a good loadout for R3D1
modern coral
It does fine.
tidal jay
Any suggestions to make it better?
modern coral
Play it correctly.
Do you have a baby killer?
If no, you kill babies.
If yes, you shoot at mom.
junior latch
team idk if they got to the end of that part yet
modern coral
ik.
junior latch
Haven't even gotten past the first sec door
elfin osprey
<:Sweating:842618241401618462>
do u need some cold lemon juice?
modern coral
Also, even if you have a baby killer, having two is sometimes a good idea.
tidal jay
But I guess combat shotgun is for the babies
modern coral
Because for w/e reason some people don't seem to understand the baby killing role
and when asked to baby kill will use the wrong weapon or just straight up won't do it.
junior latch
wdym ray? i need to shoot mom with my veruta
elfin osprey
Also, even if you have a baby killer, having two is sometimes a good idea.
2 always great because guns do run out of ammo
tidal jay
What are good baby killers?
wicked solstice
mg
elfin osprey
What are good baby killers?
carbine, shotty, anything that shoot fast
wicked solstice
uuuhh hel shot
modern coral
The best are HEL Shotgun, pump shotgun, and Veruta MG.
tidal jay
I normally try to play the level solo bots before I attempt to do LFG
elfin osprey
basiclly spawn kill baby so that they dont cry
elfin osprey
I normally try to play the level solo bots before I attempt to do LFG
dont
tidal jay
No?
modern coral
Also good are HAR, combat shotgun, and Arbalist MG.
wicked solstice
u can do that
elfin osprey
that level is 10 times easier with 4 players
wicked solstice
I usually dip my toes in with bots, then get frustrated with Dauda and wait for the static
junior latch
if you headshot, both mgs and pistol
rifle, hel revo (space shots), hel gun (space shots) heavy ar (fuck the recoil tho) and hel shotgun (somewhat space shots). Combat shotgun is also good. But its definetly the least efficient
elfin osprey
its good to try it with bot, but the powers of 4 people is still better than dumb bots
wicked solstice
bots are fine, I cleared almost every level in R3 with them
elfin osprey
atleast they can do stuff quicker than bots can
but people bad things is that they may go slow
wicked solstice
u just gotta get used to working with bots
tidal jay
Yeah I've player the grand majority of this game with bots just because I really like taking it super slow
elfin osprey
u just gotta get used to working with bots
its hard, and im too lazy to do so, and also the onlything im bad at is scout killing
tidal jay
Playing with other people makes the level often somewhat easy if they know what they're doing
Some
elfin osprey
Yeah I've player the grand majority of this game with bots just because I really...
wep, welcome to 1 of the level that have the first part fast
tidal jay
I'm still in R3 after all
elfin osprey
Playing with other people makes the level often somewhat easy if they know what ...
SOME
elfin osprey
after 12 runs with 7 completions, i realise that people actually shruggle on going fast than i expected
junior latch
7/12 
pine root
R2c1 such an easy level to solo carry
Just uplink cancel every single alarm and take mines
pine root
7/12 <:susge:1027449372163706880>
I think we have a lower clear rate tbh
elfin osprey
7/12 <:susge:1027449372163706880>
its actually not that hard if u compare it to a d tier
im just bad at dealing with scout, and luckly all of r3d1 its just go gun blazing
7/13 now
a bunch of chargers and delay scout does the trick
elfin osprey
Make it 7/14
The 14th run is the run with hacker
13 was the number without hacker run
last parrot
and the fact that theres the bug reports thing makes me a little excited
modern coral
a bunch of chargers and delay scout does the trick
You needed to not pick up mines
That just straight kills us
errant marlin
is there r4 next month ?
sharp siren
june 1
pine root
and the fact that theres the bug reports thing makes me a little excited
we already had the system. it doesn't matter if they don't get fixed. tbh most of the bugs are descyn related to.
pine root
june 1st
sharp siren
june 1
eternal maple
june 1
pine root
j 1
modern coral
J-tier 😳
junior latch
just kite 
serene berry
🪁
grizzled bison
Group staring contest
pine root
charger giant surge error on the other hand
neon spoke
What're the chances of two mothers to spawn on the first round of the initialize sequence in r7d1?
grizzled bison
Mod level makers adding a flyer surge error to their 15 code reactor (vanilla levels aren't challenging) (devs can't make levels) (the mod maker never beat r2e1 and hasn't played since)
neon spoke
And then two tanks for round 4?
sharp siren
cheaters
pine root
Mod level makers adding a flyer surge error to their 15 code reactor (vanilla le...
how did you know i was making a level with 19 flyer surges
grizzled bison
welcome to osu
ashen tartan
@odd laurel why is your mic so silent
unreal crystal
welcome to osu
click the circles
serene berry
the round 4 is legit if they failed the wave
and the punishment wave for failing code one is just babies, and the punishment wave for failing code 2 or 3 is a mother,
serene berry
What're the chances of two mothers to spawn on the first round of the initialize...
but two moms wave 1? yup cheaters
pine root
and the punishment wave for failing code one is just babies, and the punishment ...
no failing code 2 is fliers
and 3 is snatchers
unless it has been changed
serene berry
hmmm i doubt anything has changed, have you tested failing a code multiple times? lol i might be gas-lighting myself, i seem to remember getting a mom recently
rose nova
i failed a code couple times on a d1 run and all i got was flyers n babies
maybe the mom appears if u fail it a lot more
rose nova
ah the irony
little ridge
They're cheating/hacking/modding
peak ginkgo
Damn
little ridge
Before R6, game only had sledgehammer just with 4 skins in total
peak ginkgo
Sucks that they didn’t officially put the skins for purely cosmetic purposes
Such wasted beautiful models
analog flicker
modded
They are able to use hammer heads that never made it to base game as well iirc
One of which used to be an Axe head made out of a gear or smth
analog flicker
Sucks that they didn’t officially put the skins for purely cosmetic purposes
And this is more so because they can't/too lazy to create a cosmetic system to just change skins
This is partly why "rundown specific" is basically not a thing anymore
last parrot
we already had the system. it doesn't matter if they don't get fixed. tbh most o...
so basically, they're restructuring the system for no reason?
analog flicker
little ridge
Maybe it's in preparation of their next game
neon spoke
maybe the mom appears if u fail it a lot more
We failed once
modern coral
i failed a code couple times on a d1 run and all i got was flyers n babies
Flyers??
Wtf
First time I'm hearing of that.
neon spoke
What's so fun about cheating? Can anybody explain that to me? What's so much fun about going out of your way and risking being banned just to ruin somebody else's experience?
rose nova
i dont know the psychology behind that
rose nova
First time I'm hearing of that.
really?
um
funky
modern coral
What's so fun about cheating? Can anybody explain that to me? What's so much fun...
People be weird.
serene berry
its a power thing. you have control over wether other people have a good time or not, and the only way to exercise that power is to deny a good time. 'its funny to watch other people trying when they don't even know you already made it impossible.'
or they are just a difficulty junky, cause 2 moms and 1 extra tank is tough, but not impossible so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
neon spoke
That's the funny thing, I play overwatch and when I face a cheater there it's usually possible to shut them down still bc they have the trashiest game sense you could witness
In that case though it feels like the "imma cheat but try to hide it" type of cheater
serene berry
ya, this game being pve and not a pvp team shooter or a BR means we attract a very different kind of cheater
using old hammer is a stupid flex, but whatever i guess. but people who spawn in extra shit? idk man, its just weird
junior latch
we get the "god mode" and all other kind of cheaters streaming rarely
it do be funny
modern coral
I'm assuming they're talking about people that are specifically trolling.
Most cheaters are just dog players.
Like, I'm pretty sure I could solo literally any level with infinite choke mod.
But people bring that shit into R1 levels like ???
And I still kill more of the enemies.
serene berry
Like, I'm pretty sure I could solo literally any level with infinite choke mod.
that would be fun the first or second time honestly, i should dive into some level with the Choke Mod Laser
modern coral
I'm tempted to play around w/ it actually.
burnt flume
The things you could do with infinite mag
serene berry
solo-ing would be very silly
serene berry
lol stagger the whole surge alarm
it would be pretty fun, but after a level its would never be fun again
so what one level would you all do?
this is a high you can only get once, do you do R7D2?
junior latch
The things you could do with infinite mag
choke mod with infinite mag and no recoil
go crazy
honestly
youd forfeit due to finger pain before dying
analog flicker
But people bring that shit into R1 levels like ???
I read this and choked on my coffee.
They really do be bringing those cheats into R1 levels
little ridge
I assume a good portion is just players that bought the game thinking it's another horde shooter, then they're too much deep into the hours to refund and decide to cheat
I'm more angry about the ones that are sneaky about it
If I see someone endlessly shooting I quickly know that he's cheating and I can leave
There's been cases of people doing sneaky shit and that's way way worse imho
analog flicker
I'm more angry about the ones that are sneaky about it
I played with one the other day. He was acting like I wouldn't notice chargeless hammer hits killing strikers to the front
modern coral
There's been cases of people doing sneaky shit and that's way way worse imho
an hour into R4C2, we complete Secondary and clear Overload for extract, and we're about to get the last 3 or so GLPs...
analog flicker
He was toggling it or smth because I got some kills I was like. That should've staggered. Not kill.
modern coral
Guy suddenly comes out w/ "wow, I have this bugged infinite-use tool refill!"
little ridge
I remember a guy I'm 99% sure he was using aimbot since he kept oneshotting shit while in super thick fog and it was before thermal (also non-biotracked targets)
modern coral
Like bro, fuck off, fr?
little ridge
an hour into R4C2, we complete Secondary and clear Overload for extract, and we'...
R4C2 had glps?
analog flicker
I remember a guy I'm 99% sure he was using aimbot since he kept oneshotting shit...
"Nah man. These thermals are too strong"
modern coral
Wrong level.
modern coral
I remember a guy I'm 99% sure he was using aimbot since he kept oneshotting shit...
Tbf that sounds more like a fog bug upon late joining.
little ridge
Tbf that sounds more like a fog bug upon late joining.
He didnt latejoin
I'm sure he started with all of us
analog flicker
Reminds me of the clip saying how powerful foam is. Meanwhile the guy is one shot body shot strikers with AR
little ridge
"Nah man. These thermals are too strong"
I still see him every once in a while but super-rarely
There was also the guy that suddenly made bioscan go way faster without using boosters on R6D4
analog flicker
There was also the guy that suddenly made bioscan go way faster without using bo...
"If you spam jump and spin around the bio scan goes faster "
little ridge
lel
little ridge
One I never understood the origin of was "enemies are attracted to cfoamed doors"
serene berry
the creatures of the complex are hunting for the coomers
analog flicker
I've never heard that one
little ridge
😄
modern coral
One I never understood the origin of was "enemies are attracted to cfoamed doors...
I've heard the opposite, wack.
And that at least makes sense, you'd think enemies might consider door HP.
wispy bluff
Calle broke my mobile discord
these new weekly discussions things crash it like mad lmao
rose nova
sad
lyric anchor
hey hey party people. im new to this game, done the training amd im hooked lol
rose nova
helloo
nice u liked the game :]c
u can find people to play in #lfg-beginners !! n see how to join lobbies n stuff in #how-to-matchmake
just some advice!
ask to not be carried, start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
tardy dawn
How about we get some interested and not so interested people together and chip in a dollar each to the developers so they can finally release the previous Rundowns? Why so slow(
rose nova
How about we get some interested and not so interested people together and chip ...
cause they got to fix bugs balance weaponry add changes fix more bugs see if the levels could have more optimization maybe add new enemies
and above all
not crunch
modern coral
cause they got to fix bugs balance weaponry add changes fix more bugs see if the...
They have to balance 1 gun and they fix basically no bugs every patch.
rose nova
ah i didnt know r4 had one gun
tardy dawn
So that's why they bring back old levels almost as much as they did from scratch.
modern coral
It is entirely on the company not giving GTFO any resources to work with.
junior latch
the weapon balance seriously is the biggest headscratcher
analog flicker
pokes HAR
junior latch
bugs might be tricky to fix (unclear on some)
analog flicker
Where buff
lyric anchor
i got farther going solo than i thought i would lol
rose nova
ah nice
lyric anchor
still died obv
rose nova
cause this is gtfo :]
but well how far u got
lyric anchor
i love the mastaba r66 so far, its awsome
rose nova
yeah the revo is pretty nice >:]
i love it on more easy lvls ksmdk i headshot a lot with it for some reason
but i still recommend usin every gun to still check em all out
merry crypt
and dont get attached to just 2 weapons, be sure to learn how to use other guns for your team
winged narwhal
especially weapons that fall under different roles/playstyles
doesn't hurt to be versatile
rose nova
u just go wakin everythin up ah
winged narwhal
Solo is good to learn tho
Stealth is entirely on you so you can learn what you can and can't get away with without anyone else getting in the way
lyric anchor
Also learning how the god damn computers work! Are they case sensitive or am I just shite?
Like do I need to put underscores in?
Or can I get away with spaces
pine root
It depends soot
rose nova
they arent caps sensitive
dont worry
and in the _
usually the spaces r what separate commands from other commands
and underscores is what makes em united
so for example, an item will b names Key_Orange_777
cause its a single item so its all together
but when querying it, u need the command QUERY
so its
QUERY KEY_ORANGE_777
two parts of a command line
upbeat hatch
only reason i know how to code
ionic phoenix
so i just got this game yesterday but i cant get into a match does it take long or is there something wrong
pine root
so i just got this game yesterday but i cant get into a match does it take long ...
There isn’t a lot of players using matchmaking
Either lfg or solo bots it
lyric anchor
OK cool. I was putting an underscore like QUERY_KEY_ORANGE_777
ionic phoenix
ok thanks
rose nova
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
rose nova
ok thanks
just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
rose nova
OK cool. I was putting an underscore like QUERY_KEY_ORANGE_777
yeah, u need to separate the both parts, the command, and the item :]
lyric anchor
What are we fighting anyway? They look human but uh... Goopy
fringe willow
What are we fighting anyway? They look human but uh... Goopy
soot can i join you i have no friends lol
foggy plankBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
rose nova
just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
winged narwhal
What are we fighting anyway? They look human but uh... Goopy
iirc (as in prepare for this to probably be misinformation, go ask in #gtfo-lore if you're interested)
some but not all of them were human, there's a virus and a parasite that worked together to mutate people
rose nova
i think all of
...
well most of
nevermind i think ur right
those r spoils
so im shuttin up
rough robin
Where buff
in the trenches with the Bullpup AR
primal osprey
who wanna do a E1 wit me?
elfin osprey
do i need to become a rule 7 enjoyer
because this actually get anoying
i was creating a lfg post then before i post it someone just join
not gonna lie, its feel kidna rude when u dont have the invitation and still join
even more rude is when u have already post the lfg then someone just join and ask to do another level
rose nova
then uh idk
my next step would b reportin em for technically breakin the rules
quartz cape
you have to do the fnaf2 strat
elfin osprey
meh, usually i dont report if its not something serious
primal osprey
@elfin osprey who yu talkin bout? bet not be me
elfin osprey
i will not said the name because it is rude
quartz cape
can you say the name
elfin osprey
but yea, u said it ur self
rose nova
ah
primal osprey
lol it aint rude yu jus soft
quartz cape
what is rule 7
rose nova
not join other peoples vc randomly w/o a post on lfg n stuff
primal osprey
fuck rule 7 this lfg need players
elfin osprey
no
primal osprey
especially begginers
elfin osprey
follow the frecking rule
primal osprey
stfu
elfin osprey
wow
rose nova
well if beginners needs players u should join the lobbies posted in #lfg-beginners
quartz cape
i think we should use ingame matchmaking
rose nova
solutions
elfin osprey
why dont i surprise with that
primal osprey
lol matchmakin is a joke at this point
elfin osprey
and people just dont follow rule
rose nova
joinin people that r searching for people
quartz cape
how do i lfg with myself
elfin osprey
so why do we need lfg channel
primal osprey
stfu bout the rules man. i cant to yu on no lick wit me
pine root
and people just dont follow rule
Jsut Ignore them
elfin osprey
joinin people that r searching for people
4 compyter
rose nova
the true divided screen gtfo gameplay
pine root
stfu bout the rules man. i cant to yu on no lick wit me
Although I agree lots of the rules are stupid you do tend to break rule 7 quite often tbh
primal osprey
gtfo couch co op
elfin osprey
the true divided screen gtfo gameplay
when u are too good at the game to the point u are the team
primal osprey
Although I agree lots of the rules are stupid you do tend to break rule 7 quite ...
i didn't break any rules
rose nova
when u are too good at the game to the point u are the team
4 man group made by myself by havin 4 keyboards
dual uplinks aint a problem
elfin osprey
Although I agree lots of the rules are stupid you do tend to break rule 7 quite ...
people tend to break rule then though they dont break rule
life
primal osprey
we need couch co op for GTFO 2
elfin osprey
dual uplinks aint a problem
dual uplinks world record
sharp owl
stfu bout the rules man. i cant to yu on no lick wit me
in english?
primal osprey
people tend to break rule then though they dont break rule
learn english
elfin osprey
oh wow
elfin osprey
i always called myself stupid
dont call ur self that
primal osprey
nice job trying to speedrun getting ban
😽
rose nova
dont call ur self that
why not who cant tell me to
modern coral
Least entitled rule 7 breaker.
elfin osprey
i always called myself stupid
we are all smart
elfin osprey
i always called myself stupid
pine root
i didn't break any rules
I keep a tally on your notes lol
elfin osprey
my time is going to be abysmal
ur out of the leader board
primal osprey
i been tryna get banned for weeks now
these white folk sweet. yu can get banned for saying "ya mom fat" 😭
primal osprey
I keep a tally on your notes lol
then yu got the wrong tallys man
elfin osprey
Least entitled rule 7 breaker.
i actually understand now why dj is rule 7 enjoyer
quartz cape
i actually understand now why dj is rule 7 enjoyer
ya mom fat
rose nova
these white folk sweet. yu can get banned for saying "ya mom fat" 😭
these whites
walter whites
modern coral
i actually understand now why dj is rule 7 enjoyer
They're actually just such bad people, so consistently.
It's wild.
elfin osprey
ya mom fat
no, ur out of the leader board
rose nova
they sneak onto everythin
quartz cape
no, ur out of the leader board
i have to try
rose nova
if i kick u in the leg does it count
quartz cape
but i tried so hard
modern coral
to get so far?
quartz cape
but in the end, i only got a warning
elfin osprey
They're actually just such bad people, so consistently.
yea
pine root
then yu got the wrong tallys man
Ur right someone with your discord tag joined my vc without a code 3times. And I definitely didn’t send you fake troll codes to waste your time
elfin osprey
weird hmmm
rose nova
bet they didnt do that
elfin osprey
that is his "alternative" on a diffrent universe
rose nova
ALT://Jish
pine root
ALT://Jish
I can be the good guy sometimes
primal osprey
Ur right someone with your discord tag joined my vc without a code 3times. And I...
ok
thank yu
rose nova
almost 30 later change of topics
primal osprey
primal osprey
@rose nova wya
rose nova
machinepistol
primal osprey
slide on me im around
rose nova
ah yes slide shift then crouch
primal osprey
no dickhead lol
rose nova
ah yes dickhead the so called sleepers in gtfothegame
rose nova
ah yes yu the first two letters of the amazin page youtube dot com
quartz cape
cyberheist is almost out
primal osprey
GTFO 3!!!
rose nova
cyberheist is almost out
we hope
primal osprey
whats cyberhiest
quartz cape
10ccp new game
last parrot
cyberheist is the code name for rundown 8
rose nova
cyberheist is a heist but cyber
last parrot
when the time comes for r8 to be revealed
they're going to get onto a stage
hold hands and say "suprise!" in unison
and then rundown 8 will be released
elfin osprey
good script
rose nova
is the arbalist better than the heavy assault rifle on bots? is there some
stats for this? cause once i found an excel page about the dmg of the weapons in bots but doesnt have the arbalist
modern coral
is the arbalist better than the heavy assault rifle on bots? is there some
stats...
Veruta is better than both.
as bots will body shot often.
Arbalist is probably better than HAR though, either way.
HAR just has a very poor eco, which matters more for bots (imo).
elfin osprey
what guns work best on bots?
modern coral
In R6, it was Burst Rifle and Veruta.
Now, I think PR and Burst Cannon are competing in the special slot, although not sure how well they perform.
modern coral
is pr underrated or is it actually good but required skill?
It's very bot-specific.
For players, Revo is just always better but requires more skill.
Lower visibility, but higher RoF, better economy, and cracked reload cancel.
A lot of these are not factors for bots.
Bots have a lot of downtime unrelated to reloading, bots will mag dump and waste tons of ammo if their available RoF is too high, and bots cannot reload cancel (although Revo reload is still very fast).
jade iron
HAR just has a very poor eco, which matters more for bots (imo).
I feel like this is more "holy hell the mg's get way too much ammo"
like, in r6 I felt like the har got just a little bit too much
modern coral
Eh, I think that's their thing. At 15ish kills per refill, HAR is fairly balanced.
That's somewhat low for dedicated wave clear.
The MGs are very high skill weapons and need that edge to be potent.
Arbalist, for example, I think might actually be somewhat weak.
It basically only has its insane economy going for it.
jade iron
I'd choose the word "balanced" rather than "weak" for arbalist, but yeah
modern coral
You can say balanced, but I think it loses to Revo every time.
jade iron
maybe
modern coral
Revo is just more powerful.
jade iron
I'm just not a regular user of arbalist, but ahto likes it
modern coral
I don't mind playing it, but I've come to feel its weaknesses compared to Veruta.
jade iron
I'm more a "pick the obviously overtuned mg for duos" kinda guy
yeah I think it's obvious that veruta's better
but that's a reflection on veruta
modern coral
Sure, but I feel Veruta's weaknesses compared to Revo and CS as well.
jade iron
lol, I stay away from revolver purely because of that terrible light
modern coral
I think nowadays that Veruta relies a lot on teamplay to be potent.
And it is.
But it's worth keeping in mind.
jade iron
combat shotgun is one I've been suspicious of being overtuned since I watched some of eva's solo speedruns
jade iron
I think nowadays that Veruta relies a lot on teamplay to be potent.
I used to believe this, until I didn't
modern coral
Kind of hard to play, very very rewarding, and very versatile.
jade iron
veruta is dirty in solo play or when solo clearing in low-man play once you're comfortable with it
as much as I think it's a bit much, I'll give 10cc credit for getting me up to scratch with a special I otherwise probably wouldn't've touched
modern coral
I dunno, I was playing around a bit with R1B1 no sentry, and while I can perform pretty well on Veruta, I do tend to prefer Revo.
I might have to try DMR + MG, though,
I think shooters were a big difference.
I was playing SMG + MG for sake of making it harder to lean on my Main.
jade iron
lol, it synergizes really well with hel revo or carbine
that synergy being the synergy of having two independently strong guns
modern coral
That always spooks me a bit, though.
jade iron
(seriously though hel revo headshot + mg bodyshot is a neat little synergy)
modern coral
I've seen that HEL Revo + Sniper gameplay, and I'm a little worried about carrying the loadout inadvertently.
Like, I think that's something I disagree with pretty hard when anyone suggests something like Carbine + HEL Rifle.
HEL Rifle isn't actually doing anything of value, you're only ever whipping it out for its gimmick and you're a Carbine player most the rest of the time.
jade iron
lol, I disagree with your take on hel rifle as well
like, I'm not on board with khepri's "giga-busted gun won't return without mega nerfs" take
but I think it's kinda messed up to take a gun that's basically a sluggish choke mod that fires a slug and gets an extra round per mag, and then say "yes, this is the base I want to add overpen to"
not as absurd of a base to add overpen to as hel gun, but still
modern coral
I think it's remarkably balanced, and remarkably overrated, ngl.
I do think it's a much simpler HEL Weapon to play than HEL Gun, but it's exceptionally slow, and it has very poor practicality in most combat.
It really and truly needs chargers to be good, and even then it's a very weighty option.
Like, it's very strong in R3C1.
It's also very mediocre in R1C2.
It's almost a support-only weapon.
Which isn't necessarily bad, but it's certainly not excelling in its niche as much as you might expect.
It's unbelievably fair, even, despite the fact that I'd rate it quite poorly.
jade iron
ehh, I still think it's a bit much
I caught myself about to talk about the ammo efficiency too (why did it used to get more ammo than choke mod?), but in light of where things like the mg's are, I'm just kinda numb to it in actual play these days
modern coral
I think its efficiency is fair.
Matching the shotguns is actually a huge negative for it.
Because its build and playstyle is closer to dedicated wave clear than any burst weapon/shotgun.
jade iron
eh, disagree
it's a very good big target killer
not so much bosses due to the precision multi
sharp owl
Next update will add sleeper sex
modern coral
Hard disagree.
Taking 3 full seconds and 80% of your magazine to kill a single giant is horrendous.
Even if they line up, you're mostly catching up to other weapons that do similar things.
I think I'm actually reverting to R3 Rayalot. Pen is not nearly as amazing as some make it out to be.
jade iron
lol, that sure is a take
I'm not black dragon when it comes to pen alarmism, but it can get really dirty, especially for the specials
modern coral
It can get really dirty, but I think it requires certain things to be dirty.
And HEL Rifle is so stunted that it's quite clean all around.
elfin osprey
Lower visibility, but higher RoF, better economy, and cracked reload cancel.
not gonna lie, im too shit with reload cancel
jade iron
I'm somewhere in the middle on the whole "enemies can always be herded to come from one direction" vs "sometimes enemies just be all over the place and pen is useless" debate
elfin osprey
Next update will add sleeper sex
after sex, we put a bullet straight through their butt=))
modern coral
I don't think the amount of directions is the problem, I think it's just that enemy pathing, collision, and intimidation makes lining up a bit less frequent than you might expect.
I think a big difference between the HEL Gun and Rifle that leads to one being able to pull off cracked insane shit and the other being kind of doodoo is that HEL Gun can smoothly transition from clicking heads to getting line-ups.
I might not actually pen that much during some alarms, but I'm also still killing a large number of enemies.
jade iron
I already said hel gun > hel rifle
modern coral
And for many alarms where it's a bit iffy, HEL Gun is just getting full value all the time.
It's not just that HEL Gun is better, it's that HEL Rifle is very weak w/out that versatility.
jade iron
hm, I've definitely had alarms where hel gun felt clumsy
modern coral
Either you get big value, or you're the single most worthless Special in the game.
jade iron
and I think you oversell fire rate as a weapon stat
like, I don't aimbot 4 things with choke mod on the regular
modern coral
I think that's just what the skill cap looks like.
I will always say, I don't think most people can play HEL Gun very well.
Or Revo, for that matter, and for similar reasons.
Or CS, for similar reasons.
jade iron
lol, I think I click heads often enough
a lot of what you're saying about pen being overrated, resonates most to me when I think of hel revo
to me that gun is dmr most of the time
jade iron
sure, I get what you're saying
and I agree that it's part of its strength
I guess what I'm saying is that there is a little bit of clumsiness separating regular hel gun use and revolver use
it's not a huge difference, like I also think there's not a huge difference between veruta and r6 har in terms of what the charge-up imparts
but like, I have to admit that the charge-up on veruta means that sometimes I'm going to be carrying baby or cell or something in r2e1, and wave's going to show up, and I'm going to get licked before I have time to drop the heavy carry and charge a shot
there's just a minor inconvenience at the margins that sometimes manifests in a worse outcome
gun's still bonkers
modern coral
For Veruta I think it's more a genuine weakness.
For HEL Gun, it's mostly a RoF limiter, and not a significant one.
0.1 TTK vs. 0.4 to stagger and 0.64 TTK.
jade iron
I'll agree that it's more pronounced for veruta
I don't know, I played a lot of hel gun back in r6 (showed up in basically every one of our duos, including double hel gun on some levels), and haven't really touched it since
jade iron
r3 didn't give it enough of a workout, and I didn't want the r2e1 duo to happen just because we got the busted guns
modern coral
Fair
Learned it mid-R6 while replaying R5, and now whenever I got to pick a loadout, I think:
"X is nice, but it's not HEL Gun. What if through some circumstance I need to solo the entire reactor wave in the donut room of R2D2 and I'm stuck with X? Better play HEL Gun."
jade iron
lol, the only example that ever comes to mind of a situation that looks like the one I'm thinking of where I can feel the difference in responsiveness, is those damned r6b1 solo speedruns I used to grind, in the first alarm, with strikers emerging from behind the tanks
maybe it's an amount of sluggishness that really is imperceptible in 99% of realistic scenarios when you're decent with the gun
that's probably true of all the r6 duos at least
jagged trail
are people in here genuinely saying that hel rifle isn't overpowered broken shit?
jade iron
but I also think of the places where hel gun pen just invalidated hordes in duos, and I think, "hel rifle would still do that"
modern coral
are people in here genuinely saying that hel rifle isn't overpowered broken shit...
Yes, it's mega overrated.
jade iron
like basically any reactor, any warden protocol level, etc
jade iron
if hel rifle existed in r7, I don't think people would call r7c3 hard
jagged trail
reactors, chargers, shadows, big shadows, big chargers
basically things that have more than "lol strikers"
jade iron
like the overload blood door would be trivial
unreal crystal
sry panda I’m a certified hel rifle hater 
jagged trail
you don't need to go for heads vs any single enemy, you have more damage per refill, more fucking range
and an actual sight instead of impediment
modern coral
These are all fairly minor points on their own.
jagged trail
sry panda I’m a certified hel rifle hater <:Sadge:850702197368684545>
wish you said so in R5E1 duo 
modern coral
High cal (pre-nerf) at least had a pretty good RoF + mag combo, HEL Rifle does not.
unreal crystal
LMAO
That’s actually one of the times where it worked well
Main reason I’m not a fan is cause of the penetration bug
jade iron
High cal (pre-nerf) at least had a pretty good RoF + mag combo, HEL Rifle does n...
😭 I miss pre nerf high cal
perfectly balanced gun
I haven't felt like I've been playing honest gtfo since they nerfed that thing
well, except for when using shotgun
modern coral
wish you said so in R5E1 duo <:kappa:794606323903234069>
I feel like this is the whole problem.
When it can pop off, it pops off.
But it genuinely doesn't pop off that often.
Even for chargers, the full charger waves in R1C2 are kind of terrible for it.
There's just too many enemies, and you can't afford to let stragglers through to save for higher value shots.
jagged trail
are there full teams on r1c2 except for the first one
jagged trail
"lol do scans, i'll hold"
modern coral
HEL Gun has literally no trouble at all solo holding.
HEL Rifle is an int.
You need a teammate with you.
jagged trail
what