4 str is a max hit typically, full torva is +6str over vandos faceguard
#help-chat
wary prawn
lucid lotus
ok?
wary prawn
So you're spending all that on 1 maybe 2 max hits
lucid lotus
do literally any other content and shadow is most likely bis
wary prawn
At the cost of losing giga mage max hits and accuracy at everything else
mint venture
Where is shadow bis except toa or cox?
lucid lotus
TD
shrewd dock
Which is
mint venture
So toa cox dont do, gwd dont really do, whisperer i dont like
jagged haven
shrewd dock
Uhhhh pvm might not be for u dude
lucid lotus
<:Yea:946586428295503892>
jagged haven
it's the wiki so it'll be absolutely incorrect but that about sums it up
winged pendant
ToB, Nex, colo. those are the 3 major moneymakers that shadow is not particularly good for (and it's still usable for colo)
if you are not focused on one of those big 3
mint venture
When i do colo i do melee only
winged pendant
jagged haven
shocking
mint venture
I dont really understand all the defense for tumeken, im not saying its bad im just saying its not that good on what i was doing and the content i enjoy?
unique tendon
When i do colo i do melee only
shrewd dock
Just know youre making an insanely huge mistake selling shadow for anything especially melee gear
You will get 1 max hit
unique tendon
selling mega to not buy another mega
is the most stupid move
u can do
followed closely by mele only colo
mint venture
Melee only colo pretty good? used the dinhs method tho
unique tendon
Melee only colo pretty good? used the dinhs method tho
its not pretty good
its pretty not good
mint venture
Well guess ill save up for toa gear again and grind it out even if i dont enjoy it
lucid lotus
man i wish i knew collo to fully understand how melee only collo is
unique tendon
man i wish i knew collo to fully understand how melee only collo is
its not awful if u have a scythe
unique tendon
and you know what you're doing
mint venture
Honestly I think using the dinhs method to run pillars is the easiest way to learn colo because its much more forgiving
but might only be me
lucid lotus
that statement contradicts itself
how would something be easier to learn if you dont get punished for mistakes?
mint venture
Because you can salvage and continue instead of having 10 min to get back to the "harder" waves
unique tendon
Honestly I think using the dinhs method to run pillars is the easiest way to lea...
its not
lucid lotus
huh
mint venture
- you get to practice later waves
lucid lotus
isnt collo literally:
can you deal with frem sim?
unique tendon
in non mele setup
open pivot
its so joever, 10 minutes isnt a big time sink compared to inferno's ~60+ to get back to tough waves
osrs players too coddled these days
mint venture
Idk thats how i got my quiver so it worked
mint venture
<:Yea:946586428295503892>
Where can i see this?
jagged haven
wiki pvm advice is usually pretty terrible but it's good for getting an idea of what you want to do
lucid lotus
even addy plate has one
mint venture
ohh didnt know that :p
jagged haven
the thing i like the least is that it tells you every setup you could use but doesn't outline a clear winner
justi has been on the inferno page forever
all edits to it get reverted instantly
open pivot
sorry jorts, im just a justi truther
mint venture
Could continue muspah also its pretty fun but with tumeken my goal should be ancestral? a good boss to dps check on?
lucid lotus
huh
mint venture
how much more ancestral would increase my dps
lucid lotus
muspah's only dps check is at the very end where you only have to deal like 100-200 hp within 5 mins
lucid lotus
how much more ancestral would increase my dps
3 max hits at most
extremely minor
gear = shit
weapons = great
jagged haven
sorry jorts, im just a justi truther
mint venture
and no accuray boost, so might just stay with virtus?
jagged haven
tank this you casual
lucid lotus
why would you want additional accuracy
your rocking the weapon that has 500 mage accuracy
open pivot
shadows whole thing is that it multiplies magic damage bonus
wary prawn
More accuracy is diminishing returns
lucid lotus
the good thing about osrs, is that rag gear is extremely close to BIS gear.
just bc you dont have literal BIS doesnt mean you shouldnt do a piece of content
mint venture
Okey so my mage is pretty much set then, except spec wep i guess for some qol content but focus on melee or range after? or just cox or toa gear i guess?
lucid lotus
buy a blowpipe with a dcb, and a whip. gz ur set for every piece of content imaginable
mint venture
Honestly im probably just bad at the game and let "gear carry me"
open pivot
gear will rarely carry you if you arent good
good thing is you dont have to be very good to do content in this game
lucid lotus
gear does nothing
hope this helps
learn how stats work so you dont have to ask others on how to gear
and then gz
jagged haven
skill > stats > gear
open pivot
froggy has the formulas for max hit and accuracy memorized
summer needle
gear will rarely carry you if you arent good
takes 1 to know 1
open pivot
can it finn boy
jagged haven
kela rat
summer needle
can it finn boy
lucid lotus
froggy has the formulas for max hit and accuracy memorized
not that hard to learn the shorthand
2 for range and mage, 4 for melee
gets you 99% of the answer
open pivot
https://discord.com/channels/1199734563082084362/1199734563556044910/13904766559...
new chain? 
summer needle
new chain? <:PauseChamp:761238821395890188>
we could
too bad it only works for lfr gameupdaters
jagged haven
can't link to that original message in wdr
summer needle
ye
jagged haven
but lol imagine we build this up and it's like 20 long
someone goes through them all and then gets hit with no access
tepid kayak
can mix it up w forwards too
glacial pelican
im tryna learn some cox, anyone mind helping me out?
open pivot
im tryna learn some cox, anyone mind helping me out?
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
glacial pelican
ty lmao
summer needle
and called it a day
glacial pelican
i did step 2
summer needle
ngl
summer needle
you beat like 90% of bozos joining
shrewd dock
Can't read. He'll fit in just fine
glacial pelican
Can't read. He'll fit in just fine
can someone tell me what he said
summer needle
fixed issue after getting 1 dick flame you for 0 reason
summer needle
can someone tell me what he said
he said: CANT READ HE WILL FIT IN JUST FINE
glacial pelican
sorry i have bad hearing as well
summer needle
HÄN SANOI; ETTÄ SÄÄ ET OSAA LUKEA
glacial pelican
ahh si
open pivot
youll fit in with @sage epoch then
summer needle
OCH SAMMA PA SWNSKA
open pivot
(he cant hear that ping)
sage epoch
youll fit in with <@162116630510305280> then
Lmaooo
dense sleet
is selling shadow the mod sanctioned financial advice
frozen iris
usually the advice is keep the thing from an account-wise perspective
mod-sanctioned advice is dont give bad advice in the context
dense sleet
in what context
open pivot
never trust shurt's financial advice
frozen iris
never trust shurt's financial advice
?
gray latch
need help , where can i find out what are strikable offences
gray latch
read it already
wary prawn
Just start sending messages
And see what gets you striked
Experiment, live a little
dapper patrol
leaden oasis
or alternatively, if you think ''could i be striked for posting this?'' you probably shouldnt send it 👍
gray latch
just want to know what ive said in colosseum chat, that couldve been striked, so i dont say it again
wary prawn
How many strikes are you on
frozen iris
there was 20,000 messages of dumbfuckery in colosseum. Some messages of some users were pinged down but largely mods just went and identified users that were deemed to be contributing to the shitshow of the channel
wary prawn
There was a collo crackdown?
wary prawn
Who got the crack
frozen iris
There was a collo crackdown?
"crackdown"
just some warnings
if there was a crackdown I've had gone on a rampage 
jagged haven
gray latch
im not sure about strikes cant find out any info if i have em or not
jagged haven
per my crystal ball you have 2 strikes
leaden oasis
im not sure about strikes cant find out any info if i have em or not
You have none
If you get one, you will be made aware
If youre worried about colochat, if its not related to colo, dont say it
open pivot
we should ban irish
?
hard vapor
!nex
scarlet tuskBOT
lucid lotus
hard vapor
Is that the new one?
frozen iris
ye
lucid lotus
per my crystal ball you have 2 strikes
coral radish
!yama
scarlet tuskBOT
abstract vault
is their a command to be able to see the "waiting for tob mentor" channel
shrewd dock
is their a command to be able to see the "waiting for tob mentor" channel
Ye you'd be waiting a while
Last tob mentor raid was 5/20
And that was the first one all year
open pivot
fervent void
S.O.S! 🛟
cerulean delta
hi
frozen iris
we are a runescape server not roblox
heavy timber
ooooo i wanna raid amd destroy this one server but idk how to
can anyone help with that
open pivot
!raiding
scarlet tuskBOT
shrewd dock
Jesus
dark pelican
!raiding
scarlet tuskBOT
dark pelican
anyone wanna duo raid?
frozen iris
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
south laurel
Anyone wanna carry? Lulz I'm just a tired dad tryna get quest cape man.
winged pendant
if you can do DT2, entry ToB is pretty easy comparatively
south laurel
Jokes on me, I haven't done dt2 yet. I have tob dt2 DS2 and mm2 left
winged pendant
well you'll need to get them all done for quest cape so
south laurel
Yeah I know that lol...
winged pendant
have you tried entry ToB
winged pendant
I would legitimately say Vanstrom was harder than anything in entry ToB
south laurel
With a duo and we got to verzik and couldn't hang
lucid lotus
yeah duo worst scale
south laurel
Ahhh
lucid lotus
solo removes an entire mechanic at verzik
winged pendant
duo only good if the other person is a carry
lucid lotus
makes it a breeze
winged pendant
if legit new people duoing you're asking for a 5x harder fight for zero
winged pendant
it's really not as bad as it looks, every room can be retried infinitely
and except nylos/Verzik entry basically reduces them to pray something + afk
winged pendant
does that work lol, I have no idea
lucid lotus
yep
south laurel
Do I need bgs or bp or can I skate with hunter cb and DDS?
winged pendant
you're fine with like any gear you may have
agile bane
idk what raid you're talking about but the answer is no for all of them
lucid lotus
i used black knives and d scim
lucid lotus
uh sure?
but its prob best to leave it alive
since verzik cant spawn exploding crabs if its up
and you can easily outdps the healing
winged pendant
no one's going to call you anything but you should consider retrying, maybe watching a YT guide. you'll never get past the DT2 bosses if you just throw in the towel anytime something seems mildly difficult
cedar trellis
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
rain flower
hi, where are the TOA channels?
frozen iris
!rolecommands
scarlet tuskBOT
Re-read https://discord.com/channels/408082929940430858/521409656489377813. All you have to do is set or update your raids KC. For example if you were 0 cox KC you'd type !cox 0 in https://discord.com/channels/408082929940430858/521409656489377813.
https://media.wedoraids.com/qYVtaifLyld0.png
frozen iris
need toa roel
restive moat
!diary
scarlet tuskBOT
frozen iris
dense pecan
How many pts can you get in cox for a duo and trio? Assuming no deaths? And total pts for the team?
worthy ledge
is there a split channel for cox?
half scaffold
How many pts can you get in cox for a duo and trio? Assuming no deaths? And tota...
It's approx 60k total for a 3+0
half scaffold
is there a split channel for cox?
All channels are assumed split except the FFA ones
worthy ledge
All channels are assumed split except the FFA ones
ty
fervent void
I wamt to raid a server
!raiding
scarlet tuskBOT
fervent void
We don’t do that kind of stuff brother
real bronze
20 bonds is a year of membership right?
mystic raven
Yea colonel. Costs about 310m
real bronze
Ty
leaden mural
anyone @ me the vasa tech tiles i would appreciate it
solemn wasp
anyone has an estimation of what a shadow rebuild would cost?
next shore
anyone @ me the vasa tech tiles i would appreciate it
#cm-efficient-guide message
no markers but you can do it yourself when going into another cox
leaden mural
https://discord.com/channels/408082929940430858/1337461408719437935/133906853301...
thanks i think i have them
winged pebble
anyone has an estimation of what a shadow rebuild would cost?
Take the price of shadow and add 150m for some gear and supplies etc
scenic harness
How do I get access to next level of tob after 10 kc?
scarlet tuskBOT
elder ember
how do I log in
tribal harness
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
shadow carbon
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
south laurel
I did it boys. Sorry for the frustration I was just tired of getting my ass kicked lmao
summer needle
Gz
half scaffold
How do I get access to next level of tob after 10 kc?
Update your KC in #2️⃣role-commands
woeful yoke
gz
lucid lotus
I can't do the nylos room lmao
you should just be able to afk until the boss spawns at the end
as long as you dont kill the big crabs it should be fine
lucid lotus
I did it boys. Sorry for the frustration I was just tired of getting my ass kick...
gz
lucid lotus
are nylos supposed to hit thru prayer? 
valid oyster
lucid lotus
thought you had to at least somewhat attempt to do it
ok i lied
cant fully afk
focusing 1 lane you can clear with 18% left on pillars
focusing agro's and big, you can barely live with 3% on last pillar, but you get 3 pillars of crabs on you at end so its kinda tough to live. ima call failure
shrewd dock
I don't look so silly now do i
I've seen enough 0kcers do entry mode to know what the hard part is for them
lucid lotus
ngl i fully remember 100% afking nylo room before
might of been a scaling issue
duo only iykyk
loud tusk
Anybody willing to take a beginner to TOB? I have a somewhat budget setup, nox hally, zenyte jewelry, elite void, max stats, etc.
humble yoke
Anybody willing to take a beginner to TOB? I have a somewhat budget setup, nox h...
Get roles in #2️⃣role-commands
loud tusk
Will do !
scarlet tuskBOT
weary lark
anyone got red panda?
winged pebble
no
inland parrot
!party
scarlet tuskBOT
pallid cape
are yall doing any learner raids?
shy kestrel
!learn
scarlet tuskBOT
shy kestrel
I don't think there's regular mentored teaching raids going on right now, but there's low-or-no experience required raids happening in #lfr-cox-learner all the time
elfin summit
guys im just getting back to it after a 1.5-2 year break. Which raid should I buy gear for and camp?
elfin summit
good point so if i buy shadow i can efficiently do toa and cox? years back the t bow was bis always so just making sure. i trust ya haha
frozen iris
yeah. they have updated both raids a lot in the lsat bit
might be best to spend a day or two with your current gear on em
balmy halo
hey would you guys use bowfa or masori (F) with ACB on 300+ invos?
scenic harness
Anyone know how to tag the Nylos at Verzik? I know better NPC highlight but which category to put their ID’s
frozen iris
hey would you guys use bowfa or masori (F) with ACB on 300+ invos?
!bowfa
scarlet tuskBOT
frozen iris
dcb with bp ddarts masori
unless you're CMing or inferno, crossbow with masori bp better
balmy halo
dcb with bp ddarts masori
thank you!!
fervent void
np
unborn harness
i put my role as coxlearner but cant see the tab anyone know why?
fervent void
Looks like you don't have that role when I click your Discord name
Did you use !coxlearner in #2️⃣role-commands?
unborn harness
yes
fervent void
Might be conflicting with the diary role
unborn harness
did it again and nothing
frozen iris
i put my role as coxlearner but cant see the tab anyone know why?
you need a cox KC role before applying a learner role
unborn harness
is there a way to get rid of diary?
frozen iris
ive also removed diary role
fervent void
There you go! 🔥
unborn harness
thanks!
frozen iris
Welcome to hell
unborn harness
🙂
deep cape
i am just looking for help to finish the quest for tob
is that possible here? just one run to finish?
frozen iris
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
frozen iris
also insanely easy to solo; infinite attempts just dont use your brews/food on 1st try at verzik
deep cape
@frozen iris i am in that group chat but it looks like no one is on but ok thank you
i will just try to solo it
lucid lotus
group chat 
open pivot
yo howd this guy get shurts digits?
frozen iris
he actually did leave
frozen iris
I killed bato for cat gifs
frozen iris
I can end you for them too
frozen iris
lucid lotus
sit rat
@frozen iris that account was following the rules
theres no rule against having alts in the cord
actual abuse of power
frozen iris
ithere literally is
lucid lotus
THERE ISNT?
i got permission from mods last time i used it as well
theres only rules against BAN avading
lucid lotus
yea yea excuse after not being able to find the rule
frozen iris
also deserved for posting cat gif 10x
lucid lotus
for what?
frozen iris
that exact img is being moderated today
lucid lotus
posting a cat picture
frozen iris
spamming cat gifs
lucid lotus
ok so your nazi germany now
frozen iris
back 2 yama
lucid lotus
wait
ah i get it
thats so smart rng
why wait for the server to die a slow and painful death when you can be the reason it dies faster!
keep deleting
while your on your deleting streak, how about you delete this. just the plain old word, no context, [REDACTED]
open pivot
echo token
If im an ffa iron am I allowed to use the lfr-tob-standard group? Or can I only use the ffa chat?
winter dagger
standard is a splitting channel
frozen iris
If im an ffa iron am I allowed to use the lfr-tob-standard group? Or can I only ...
if you cannot split you can only use the ffa channels (one for eahc raid)
echo token
if you cannot split you can only use the ffa channels (one for eahc raid)
Unlucky, thank ya!
Side note, is your homeworld 374? I swear ive seen your name before
frozen iris
yes it is
winter dagger
long lost friends omg
frozen iris
im sorry to hear that
echo token
lmaoo thats crazy. ive seen you rc'ing a ton
winter dagger
exposed
dense pecan
Anyone know what hp kephri should get to in his swarm phase if I perfect kill all swarms? This is without more overlords, and any vid on it would help.
scarlet tuskBOT
ebon moon
!bowfa
scarlet tuskBOT
acoustic dust
Hey guys, wondering if there are any 10hp accounts who have done cox here before?
winged pendant
you can get 1 free carry for Kourend diary here, as with any other account
beyond that, this isn't the place. go find a boosting Discord or similar
acoustic dust
Do you know of any boosting Discord servers?
winged pendant
I don't personally no
fervent void
Collection slots and combat achievements
tepid kayak
p e t
half scaffold
10 HP or 3 combat?
fervent void
Hey guys, wondering if there are any 10hp accounts who have done cox here before...
Aiayuz is a level 3/10 hp by the way. He hangs around in #lfr-diary and leeches kc's. 128 kc regular cox and 9 kc cm's so far
Leeching kc's with boosting servers is super expensive. Like 15 mill per kc
And 30 mill for CM's
serene dock
lfg huey
next shore
we do raids
lucid lotus
we do *raids*
we do moderate
cant say the word redacted
cant post cat gifs
but you can still join lfr missing half of min req
next shore
should be instant punish->read channel to get unpunished, 2nd offence = yeet
tired dagger
what's the plugin for boss radius? mine is so messed up
nvm i got it i had everything ticked
serene dock
discord wont let me join actual osrs server for some reason so i came here
no notification or popup or anything, just clicking it and it does nothing
lucid lotus
no notification or popup or anything, just clicking it and it does nothing
i had that happen on my alt. try not to use some wierd browser like opera
chrome firefox should work
serene dock
im using the discord windows app idk
lucid lotus
what browser
serene dock
chrome
lucid lotus
and thats the one you created the account with?
sometimes discord is wierd with new accounts
serene dock
yes i dont have a problem with any other server this is my only discord account
lucid lotus
maybe banned?
serene dock
joined this one just fine lol
idk why i would be i never been in there
unless getting banned from some other server got me banned there like how being banned in crusader kings discord got me banned in hearts of iron too for some reason
kind seal
was there a nex channel before?
summer needle
!nex
scarlet tuskBOT
summer needle
Yes
fervent void
np
inland parrot
!party
scarlet tuskBOT
somber furnace
Hello fellas im leader of a PvP clan however weve decided to enter a PVM competition and im clueless when it comes to raids, what do you guys suggest i start with?
fervent void
Hello fellas im leader of a PvP clan however weve decided to enter a PVM competi...
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
fervent void
Would start by doing that if you want to send raids with WDR gamers
somber furnace
yes i asked here first because i dont want to set the wrong role i mean i know tob is out of the question, i just need some basic knowlegde in survivability would you suggest to start off with cox?
i have tried / been carried thru TOA in the past and the only death was on the movement phase of the last boss
i have 2 sets of camel dung to prove it.
fervent void
In that case I would send TOA since you’re already somewhat familair with it and want to raid just for the competiton
I find CoX more fun tho
somber furnace
i have done multiple cox's too but i heard they nerfed toa?
molten kernel
It's relatively minor overall, just the rates pur purple were lowered at the higher end invos
somber furnace
if i show you a picture of the points table which has been suggested could you tell me what would be best to do / camp?
vale hemlock
Is there an inferno channel
fervent void
Is there an inferno channel
Yes!
vale hemlock
Found it! Ty!
lucid lotus
if i show you a picture of the points table which has been suggested could you t...
sure, also toa was only nerfed if your invo lvl is 300 or above. which in your case doesnt sound like it
also as said above, get yourself all 3 raiding roles so you can see our advice channels, beginner text channels, as well as our more in depth strategy/mechanic guides
peak atlas
If I'm a learner iron for TOB do I go to the learner or iron channel
lucid lotus
learner if you can split. if you cant then iron
peak atlas
OK ty
eternal prairie
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
mint venture
Anyone know a good loadout for duke now after the changes?
Camp lightbearer or that just stupid?
frozen iris
do not camp lb
mint venture
So bellator ring then? but never have enough spec then can do it every second kill or something
timber oasis
Yes camp bellator
mint venture
Bgs
lucid patio
frozen iris
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
mint venture
No definetly not, really budget gear
elfin forge
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
elfin forge
is this server for raiding other servers?
summer needle
is this server for raiding other servers?
No
Fuck off
Learn to reaf
4wpmd
Man
Ill chevk myself out
iron leaf
trying to find requirements on hmt
agile bane
read pins in #lfr-tob-hard-mode
frozen iris
trying to find requirements on hmt
spare geyser
Is there a channel for CoX diary carry?
frozen iris
#lfr-diary that said it's not used much anymore since scaling changes
spare geyser
Says no access for me
jagged haven
@summer needle angry birds ahh
frozen iris
Says no access for me
sould be good now
narrow bane
anyone wanna do cox
frozen iris
anyone wanna do cox
!rolecommands
scarlet tuskBOT
Re-read https://discord.com/channels/408082929940430858/521409656489377813. All you have to do is set or update your raids KC. For example if you were 0 cox KC you'd type !cox 0 in https://discord.com/channels/408082929940430858/521409656489377813.
https://media.wedoraids.com/qYVtaifLyld0.png
winged pebble
do dt2 bosses have a guaranteed kc at which their respective tps drop
jagged haven
no but it gets more and more likely you recieve it every kc
if there's a guaranteed kc it's unknown
prime urchin
How do I gain access to https://discord.com/channels/408082929940430858/886393533295132682 ?
Currently says no access. I following the Welcome ReadMe and applied my roles.
frozen iris
cant be tier 0 and also have diary. ive removed your cox role and added diary
prime urchin
Sorry. Thanks.
winged pebble
ive seen seomeone in my cc at like 200 dry
i'd strangle someone ngl
trying to get these so i can pot blorva..
iron leaf
read pins in <#847854016188383272>
Thank you!
prime iron
If I need to send additional evidence with my modmail, do I just resend it?
frozen iris
can just send another yeah
frozen iris
If I need to send additional evidence with my modmail, do I just resend it?
If you're sending a large video file, it may nto upload as an FYI. using a medium like YT/streamable/saying "dm me for more info [if nitro]" works there
prime iron
If you're sending a large video file, it may nto upload as an FYI. using a mediu...
It's just a recording of in-game chat I've sent. In imgur so it's a gif
But all the evidence is basically 2 screenshots of him admitting to what he did
frozen iris
that was received 👍
humble garden
Hey is there gear recommendations for first time quivers?
agile bane
frozen iris
usually. Ideally someone has a alt to do the prep
lfr-cox isn't exactly equated to quality raids.
slim nacelle
What plugin hides the "attack" option on maniacal monkeys? They only have an examine option for me
lucid lotus
custom menu hider
blissful cape
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
burnt ember
Random question, but I always see people using a non-poisoned dragon dagger for Warden. Is there any weird issue using a dragon dager (p) or is it the exact same when it comes to Warden?
frozen iris
same thing they probably just had one in their bank from slayer
agile bane
saves u 1k gp 🔥
molten kernel
The poison does nothing, so it's one in the same
lone ingot
!commands
lethal grotto
Been forever since I scaled... are the monsters and olms hands/head the same hp in a +3 and +4?
agile bane
Olm's stats scale for every person in the raid, rooms scale every 2 people in the raid (on even numbers)
So a 3+3 and a 3+4 will have the same rooms, but the 3+4 will have a higher scaled olm
It's generally better to do odd scales for this reason
mellow aspen
is anyone running a cox that i can join to get the diary? just want to exist in the raid, I have no idea how to do the raid. :)<3
winged pendant
is anyone running a cox that i can join to get the diary? just want to exist in ...
!diary
scarlet tuskBOT
analog kernel
I need help how can i have access to raid chanels
I need to launch a raid on somebody on ig
Mass reports
:3
scarlet tuskBOT
analog kernel
We don't do that here
Where can i find those raiding servers
half scaffold
We don't do that here
analog kernel
So this server is useless?
half scaffold
You are yes
livid plume
anyone know of a Nex discord
summer needle
Yes
fervent void
anyone know of a Nex discord
!nex
scarlet tuskBOT
languid remnant
is scythe on crush with bandos better than inq mace + dragon defender on nightmare/phosani?
languid remnant
is it better?
half scaffold
Yes
wise hound
is there a toa learner channel?
wise hound
i know but i mean like learner raids where a mentor takes u on one
im struggling a lil to learn alone
winged pebble
i know but i mean like learner raids where a mentor takes u on one
Nope
Raid is too easy to learn solo to warrant mentors / no one wanted to mentor toa / mentors r almost a dead species in general
wise hound
oh i see
winged pebble
Theres a lot of resources out there and the advice channels are very willing to help out
wise hound
thank you
languid remnant
Anyone know why inqmace with d defender is better than sycthe on crush at tekton? only by a little bit but weird huh
fossil ore
Did you account for elder maul specs
jagged haven
So this server is useless?
goat comment
latent echo
Hey, do you still have leeching raids for ppl to get 1kc?
tepid kayak
!diary
scarlet tuskBOT
tepid kayak
Anyone know why inqmace with d defender is better than sycthe on crush at tekton...
scy on crush has low accuracy if not using inq
this is true regardless of what def it is at, slash is better
but yea you need to factor in def specs
lethal grotto
Hey guys, when someone drops pots at Olm, how long do we have again before they despawn?
frozen iris
Olm pots or or uim pots. But should be 3 hrs no?
daring creek
I thought two, but it's long af, if you drop them by dying or leaving the raid it's more like 30 minutes?
molten kernel
Dropping is 3 hours, don't remember when pots being dropped by logging out are but it's much shorter
lethal grotto
Dropping is 3 hours, don't remember when pots being dropped by logging out are b...
Oh so if I ran in with an alt full of pots, itd be smarter to drop them all instead of dying to olm?
fervent void
Oh so if I ran in with an alt full of pots, itd be smarter to drop them all inst...
Yeah, ideally you drop them manually before leaving the cc. Don’t die to Olm
austere patio
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
vast pelican
anyone know how can i get the line around my spec that shows time left to get 10 spec back?
fossil ore
Search for 'regeneration' in your list of plugins on runelite
If on official client, it might not be there
vast pelican
ty man
drifting jackal
does anyone have a group I could afk +1 for on my alt for the teleport tablet at CoX?
winged pendant
get a CoX role in #2️⃣role-commands and can post in #lfr-diary
but technically the server only officially supports diary kc, not general leeching kc
drifting jackal
but technically the server only officially supports diary kc, not general leechi...
tyvm I'll check that out 🙂
digital mesa
Anyone got a link to TOA gear progression ?
tepid kayak
!toaprog
scarlet tuskBOT
digital mesa
Thank you very much
golden stump
Hey im trying to run some solo 300`s but what are the cut-of point for the raid level, i saw 350 was a good point due to the purples being better, but i believe i read somwhere its now actually 310 or something after a new fix.
but i cant seem to find any info about it, did i halucinate that?
lucid lotus
Yep ur schizo remembering
jagged haven
not the case. however this week they are making the cutoff numbers interpolate so sending the highest number you can as opposed to the specific cutoff invos will be better, so your idea will come true
on wednesday
lucid lotus
Jorts what does that word mean
golden stump
aight cool thank, i might have read that new change and just remembered wrong
thanks
lucid lotus
'Ur mom' <- me in her
jagged haven
whole pulsar
sullen carbon
more cox kc
fickle spade
Hi any cox Raids to join?^^
shy kestrel
Yes, they're happening in the #lfr-cox channels, like #lfr-cox-learner and #lfr-cox-unscaled
you'll get access to more channels as you increase your cox kc
fickle comet
is the main reason melee yama is more dps than mage yama just the def reducing specs? in 500m budget mage seems to beat melee
this is with 0 def reduction though, just using gearscape
hearty rapids
is the main reason melee yama is more dps than mage yama just the def reducing s...
that and he has two forms, he gains mage def when in "mage tank" mode
fickle comet
oh, when does he change forms
hearty rapids
when he's being maged
fickle comet
but he doesnt have the equivalent for melee i assume
hearty rapids
gearscape has the mage tank entity on it
fickle comet
ah i see
yea it's a lot worse then makes sense
was confused, didnt know about this mechanic
hearty rapids
even if that wasn't the case melee would win the second you put any def reduction on it anyway
fickle comet
yeah it would, just saw people talking about how crazy bad mage is compared to melee
ocean flame
its not as bad as people say imo
fickle comet
yeah especially for learning
ocean flame
mage is fine; melee slightly better
fickle comet
also seems like u can just melee first 2 phases
fickle comet
that feels like a really cost inefficient setup
gearscape calc idk
they have a gear picker they choose themselves, it's probably not 100% optimal but close
hearty rapids
i mean that's not their bis calc
you've either imported your bank or set some random gp limit
grand zinc
if you set some random gp limit i have no idea why tassets are there over bm legs
grand zinc
cause fg oath legs is just better and cheaper
fickle comet
ill let it recalc
grand zinc
wait bandos tassets are 13m now 
hearty rapids
?
hearty rapids
based on what
hearty rapids
prices aren't going to be updated by the minute surely and i've had this every time i've told it to calc so far
unless this is something you've done across days
fickle comet
i had the setup you show come up like 10min ago
then i clicked for it to calc again and it gave me the one i showed
i dont know how exactly the item picker works, just needed a general idea anyways
hearty rapids
oh nah, it's because you're calcing without def reduction so it's prioritising a bit more slash accuracy
fickle comet
yeah
hearty rapids
just put a spec in then calc, it'll go for max hit
hearty rapids
yeah but you're not killing it without a spec
fickle comet
i know, i was just comparing it originally asking if the main reason for melee being stronger is the spec
hearty rapids
yeah, def reduction + mage tank mode
fickle comet
for phase 1 and 2 of yama if i melee him the only thing that really changes is that i need to camp melee pray and swap to the correct style if he chooses to not melee?
or is there something more
trail maple
since they are similar price, if im buying either BGS or DWH for soloing all raids (and maybe some other misc bosses) which is more generally useful
blazing sleet
wait bandos tassets are 13m now <a:KEKWHOLD:853719437252886548>
Last time I checked they were like 25
Dafuq
blazing sleet
since they are similar price, if im buying either BGS or DWH for soloing all rai...
BGS because dwh straight up doesn't work for toa
If you were soloing cox/tob it's dwh but you won't be able to solo tob
And solo cox is extremely hard if you don't know what you're doing
Solo toa on the other hand is totally fine
hearty rapids
or is there something more
no, that's pretty much it
fickle comet
the melee was also with chip damage
hearty rapids
huh
fickle comet
is there not chip damage through melee pray in p1-2?
maybe i was messing something up but i just kept getting hit through pray
hearty rapids
yes but there's chip damage regardless unless my memory is failing me
fickle comet
oh maybe i only noticed for melee then somehow
hearty rapids
ah right, not done mage only since release day
blazing sleet
Solo yama is cock and ball torture
fickle comet
yep noticed
hearty rapids
chip damage from autos and glyphs doesn't really matter, that'll be the only time you use food once you tidy kills up
blazing sleet
Im mostly a solo player but man I will not solo yama
Duo vs solo there is night and day
fickle comet
im also in very rag gear
so it's extra rough, just have purging staff basically
where is a good place to find a duo?
hearty rapids
!yama
scarlet tuskBOT
fickle comet
ty
blazing sleet
Preferably join a clan
fickle comet
i am in a clan, theyre just all burnt out of yama LOL
blazing sleet
Unlucky
fickle comet
cause they did it so much on release
warped owl
hello friends my cc keeps running TOA without me, is there a chance that i could this week run some with the cc?
vale hemlock
hello friends my cc keeps running TOA without me, is there a chance that i could...
Theres a list of steps to see the whole server in #🚩welcome-read-me
warped owl
wow sorry to talking ive done those steps already
winged pendant
get a ToA role in #2️⃣role-commands
then post in an lfr ToA channel. if you can't split you'll be required to post in #lfr-toa-ffa-and-iron
you may need the iron role to see that channel
ionic knot
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
umbral niche
quick question if anyone knows the answer, are mass cox raids still a thing? Need the clear for diary
blazing sleet
!diary
scarlet tuskBOT
bright mesa
why does my scout plugin not show when i go in for my own scouts, but it shows when i join someone else's fc?
agile bane
is your board set to cm/full layout
bright mesa
is your board set to cm/full layout
ah, i'll check next time i go
ionic vapor
scarlet tuskBOT
dim pond
is there a toa help chat?
fervent void
is there a toa help chat?
Get the toa roles in #2️⃣role-commands by setting your kc
stone kindle
Isnt there a way to blacklist scammers on here so they cant find raid groups? X clanmate stole a shadow
fervent void
Isnt there a way to blacklist scammers on here so they cant find raid groups? X ...
You mean Runewatch?
You can report scammers etc.
to them
When they’re put on the naughty list, it is a lot harder to do group content for them
Their Discord can be found in #useful-links
Won’t let me share for some reason
agile bane
everyone on rw list also gets banned from wdr
stone kindle
Perfect, fk scammers
dapper patrol
Theres #ban-updates and #ban-list which include all rw bans but also wdr specific bans for other rule breaking
winged pebble
What r the npc ids for awakened vards heads, the things that spit prayer orbs
inner hatch
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
tidal ether
Can somebody pls host a phoenix raid
agile bane
What r the npc ids for awakened vards heads, the things that spit prayer orbs
they both have the same id afaik, 12226
dapper patrol
Can somebody pls host a phoenix raid
I think you are here for the wrong game
This server is for old school runescape raids
tidal ether
Oh k ty!
dapper patrol
Np gl
winged pebble
they both have the same id afaik, 12226
Tyty
lavish island
inland parrot
Dm @final wyvern for any raiding inquiries
final wyvern
yeah man
opaque vessel
!yama
scarlet tuskBOT
teal mountain
is there a channel here for newer people to run cm's?
molten kernel
verbal burrow
!gear
scarlet tuskBOT
Gearing for Raids
Gear requirements and suggested gear
ToA: #1034964707804721242
CoX: #cox-gear-setups
ToB: #tob-gear-setups
Where to ask for advice
ToA: #toa-gear-advice
CoX: #cox-gear-advice
ToB: #tob-gear-advice
scarlet tuskBOT
frail rover
Hi all, I'm new here
lucid lotus
!join @frail rover @magic rampart if your here for runescape see below
If your not then learn to read ig 
scarlet tuskBOT
scarlet tuskBOT
half scaffold
It's a video game
sage sedge
i thot there was a yama chat here but i guess ill ask here cuz i cant find it anymore
do people use scythe at glyphic attenuation contracts?
slate yarrow
i thot there was a yama chat here but i guess ill ask here cuz i cant find it an...
Was removed cus mods were to lazy to moderate the channel
neon oxide
we do raids
restive tusk
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
sage sedge
Was removed cus mods were to lazy to moderate the channel
Roger ty
mossy herald
didnt raid since yama, how big is oathplate on tob/cox in time?
open pivot
very big in tob if you can keep the 50 max with scy, definitely helps in cox but have yet to do cox with oath since release
next shore
afaik oathplate for solo cm, otherwise torva for cox
open pivot
Solo Regular CoX = TSS Ultor,
Solo CM CoX = SSS Bellator,
5 man CM CoX = TSS Ultor,
blame jorts if this is wrong
sullen carbon
what does S mean
also for team cm you should use torva helm and legs with oath chest
fervent void
What the S stands for
sullen carbon
i was kinda joking cos its called oath not soul now
fervent void
Oh haha, my bad
sullen carbon
and i was asking what you meant by interesting read on how to do olm
fervent void
No clue. Forwarded that message
fervent void
Was attached to it I think
winged pebble
fervent void
Wait
sullen carbon
its not part of the forwarded message but if u didnt mean to send it whatever
but the 5man cm is wrong
you want Torva helm, Oath body, Torva legs
winged pebble
Solo reg cox is also wrong in that forwarded message afaik
fervent void
Oh wait haha
Must have still be in my chat box?
Huh
Weird
Forwarded this message. Not sure how that other message came through lol
mossy herald
thats nice thanks
winged pebble
thats nice thanks
Its not correct though 
sullen carbon
close enough
winged pebble
Sure
mossy herald
what is wrong?
sullen carbon
it wont realistically affect them probably but yeah its not quite right
sullen carbon
what is wrong?
read the last 10messages lol
winged pebble
5 man cms and solo regs
mossy herald
thanks
sullen carbon
also isnt duke wrong
fervent void
np
sullen carbon
thought it was oath body legs and serp
im not going through every single one of them tho i dont care that much
quite a few seem slightly off tho but again wont make a massive difference
if you care that much dps calc it urself its free and takes 30 secs
tranquil igloo
@royal smelt 7k duke kc what’s the best set up
sullen carbon
wheres ur thrall book
sullen carbon
why not?
next shore
Kills are like 40s anyway? doesnt make much of a difference right?
royal smelt
im doing casual runs first of all.
my focus is on long trips and not on speed which puts me in the opinion that its not worth the prayer points
yea basically. the prayer points are better used at swinging
i could obv use thralls but then i'll be prayer dry much quicker.
quaint spindle
Could take div and dust for scb
Food isn't issue or prayer rly it used to be stam before
royal smelt
absolutely. new update made me drop the stam
quaint spindle
U get more than enough from food/pot drop
sullen carbon
Kills are like 40s anyway? doesnt make much of a difference right?
strange argument to make for a timesave especially on a boss with very high defence but this conversation is clearly just "this is a duke setup" not "the best duke setup" so doesnt really matter
royal smelt
Yea its my casual duke setup 😛
sullen carbon
yeah u can for sure kill duke with that
sacred tapir
That’s certainly a take
sullen carbon
i wouldnt call thralls high efficiency
its one click
and also pretty sure serp is better than oath helm
and bella ring
but you didnt ask for help with it so obv can do what u want
royal smelt
@tranquil igloo dragged me here xD
sullen carbon
yeah
sacred tapir
I find it hard to believe 8 prayer and a click every 2 min isn’t worth it lol
sullen carbon
people play the game much worse im sure
ive seen people go to bosses with prayer gear on to save money on prayer pots for example
quaint spindle
Ngl u can do multiple kills in row so thrall makes even more sense
royal smelt
@sullen carbon thanks for the advice still. i'll gladly take it!
sullen carbon
<@314872131186065418> thanks for the advice still. i'll gladly take it!
yeah like i say noone wants unsolicited advice but its there if u want it
some people have actually asked for advice and then been way more of a dick about it when you tell them how to improve their setup lol
royal smelt
I bet^^ but i absolutely dont wanna end up in a fight 😛
(and im honestly not giving my 100% at duke aswell - im just relaxing there)
quaint spindle
Boss is good prep is ass
royal smelt
prep is much better now
quaint spindle
Atleast they made u can make multiple pots ye
carmine ridge
any1 can help me with a inferno wave i had i cant seem to find the solution
lean folio
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
sullen carbon
any1 can help me with a inferno wave i had i cant seem to find the solution
do this
!join
scarlet tuskBOT
sullen carbon
up until the first 2
to set at least 1 raid role
and then youll be able to see #inferno and #inferno-guide
quaint spindle
prep is much better now
im using that rn, could swap 2nd div for crystal dust
quaint spindle
some food item from varlamore heals more but idr name
tepid kayak
you could start w pickaxe + book equipped for 1 more manta
subtle vortex
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
lucid lotus
do this
Last i hear inferno doesnt have raid role now. Can just send em straight to #inferno
bold nexus
forgot how do i update my kc?
tepid kayak
coral glade
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
slim nacelle
!toamin
scarlet tuskBOT
shadow river
anyone know why i cant see the cox cm tab?
light plank
fervent void
anyone know why i cant see the cox cm tab?
Need 75 cox kc for it
gray latch
some food item from varlamore heals more but idr name
moonlight antelope, and sunlight antelope, cooked dashing kebbit (kebbit heals 13 hitpoints then 10, then 10 run energy)
uncut marsh
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
warm elm
@spice lagoon been drinking again?
unique bramble
!tobquest
scarlet tuskBOT
mint venture
Did they nerf toa drop rates really much or?
unique tendon
Did they nerf toa drop rates really much or?
not really
i mean
alls relative
gp/h went down quite a bit
they have a blogpost with a graph of changed rates
have fun reading
@mint venture
mint venture
Hmm damn, weird how it only changes in +50 invocations xd
unique tendon
Hmm damn, weird how it only changes in +50 invocations xd
thats just ssome datapoints
it changes at any invo lvl
mint venture
not this one no?
unique tendon
do you know what datapoints are
half scaffold
They can't list every single raid level dude
mint venture
Well yea maybe ish but the weight of different purples changes at +50s
winged pendant
drop chance overall changes smoothly, breakpoints at which weighting of purples changes is every 50 raid levels specifically
but the latter thing is going away with the next update afaik
so 310 will actually slightly change purple weighting compared to 300
mint venture
Okey
winged pendant
unless you were already running 500+ pre change you're unlikely to notice much
west light
Always has been 
mint venture
440s were best before?
winged pendant
if you have shadow it's around 500 ish
500-545 all pretty much the same, do whatever you prefer
mint venture
I got shadow but to much skill issues for 500s xd
mint venture
- the rest of the gear is pretty bad and with how high their defense levels gets i think 500s might be to much
winged pendant
nope
if you have a shadow 500s are very reclined
even without one they're not terrible with some practice, now that you can butterfly Akkha without. mostly wardens p1 that's annoying
mint venture
Hmm guess i could try some 500s, thanks! guess the raid also get a bit more enjoyable if i really start to push higher invocations
winged pendant
probably. I mean content in general is more fun when you learn/get better at it, and pushing to 500 is a decent start so
rustic lotus
!nex
scarlet tuskBOT
unique tendon
Hmm guess i could try some 500s, thanks! guess the raid also get a bit more enjo...
check out reynold
the 525 one is old but showcases giga rebuild gear
and the newer one idk he prolly says some good things
i didnt watch but reynold is my goat i trust him
mint venture
Yea reynold helped me get my first quiver :p
unique tendon
idk about hiss colo stuff but id bet its fine at the very minimum
winged pendant
his colo stuff is actually kinda troll
mint venture
That shit works 100%
winged pendant
yeah
