isle-discussion

[stone tiger]

And sleep under the ice

[mint sapphire]

They can survive in warm water for 2/3 hours as well

[stone tiger]

Literally frozen in time

[mint sapphire]

Should that be implemented in the isle

[stone tiger]

Well not in boiling water but yes

[midnight kernel]

Im curious how this might be accomplished tbh. Im for it: it would certainly make the number of deinos smaller to make it more skill based, which you do need a smaller pop given apexes, and i have a feeling deinos pop might explode with the fish, austro, and eventual bary additions.

[mint sapphire]

There’s no boiling body of water in the isle

[hybrid basin]

Not yet

[wheat coral]

Deino has to go on land to nest and rest as well

[sacred harbor]

why6 is my hordetesting saying incompaticle server what servers are compatiable bru

[mint sapphire]

Deino? Nesting? Unheard of lol

[stone tiger]

But right now resting can even be done on a lake bed

[hoary sage]

What's the game version listed in the bottom right of the main menu?

[stone tiger]

At night in a bush or during daytime in shadows

[sacred harbor]

0.21.629

[leaden cobalt]

I live in the shadows

[hoary sage]

You can only join Hordetesting servers while on the hordetesting branch

[stone tiger]

The sun and sunlight is not that cardinal in the life of Deinosuchus as it could be

[mint sapphire]

Personally I think deino is fine the way it is

[stone tiger]

I don't think so.

[wheat coral]

Making it so that you can actually potentially see a deino before it ambushes you, requiring the deino to play smart as opposed to just being invisible underwater, as well as making it so if its eyes are below water, it cannot see above water

[mint sapphire]

Deino is already the hardest creature to grow

[jagged pulsar]

I feel somewhat the same, Like I feel like it's grab should be a bit more of an involved back and forth considering irl crocs and gators do struggle with pulling larger prey into the water and it can sometimes tear free and escape

but that's moreso me thinking any grab/grapple type mechanic in this game needs a bit more of an involved back and forth rather than just press and hold button to attack/buck

[hybrid basin]

It's not really hard, it's just entirely luck-based
With low odds of being able to play at all

[sacred harbor]

im on the branch thats why im confused

[hoary sage]

I know, you can only join servers with Hordetesting in the name

[sacred harbor]

ohh

[midnight kernel]

What if its lunge could be held to allow it to slowly move around more quietly before releasing rmb to launch?

[modern ibex]

is austro in horde yet?

[mint sapphire]

Horse testing is a crash fest though I can’t recommend

[mild wagon]

wolfquest type biting/holdng onto limbs?

[mint sapphire]

Yes

[wheat coral]

Perhaps, there's a lot of ways they could go with it

[stone tiger]

If not basking I just wish it had more reliable AI spawns at a young age

[modern ibex]

oh cool i'll update my game to check it out, ty

[midnight kernel]

Yee. Either way the planned rework will hopefully fix some issues

[vapid laurel]

The Z key allowing a slower stealth swim could work

[mint sapphire]

Be advised HT is a crash fest rn

[stone tiger]

Like frogs chicken and hare would spawn around you as a little gator so you can get fed

[sacred harbor]

Im sorry lowk i wasnt looking at the names

[modern ibex]

thank you for the warning, it feels like HT is always buggy

[stone tiger]

I also wish baby Deinosuchus had a better underwater vision than the adults

[mint sapphire]

Whole point of deino is to be very hard to grow whilst also being super oppressive when it’s prime

Feast or famine play style

[vapid pumice]

sometimes i burp

[stone tiger]

Sadly

[mint sapphire]

It could take days to actually get juvenile

[stone tiger]

While gators could survive for months after one meal

[mint sapphire]

And on pop limited servers it might take days to even make a deino

[jagged pulsar]

Never played it or seen gameplay but maybe

[mint sapphire]

I’ve been playing petits and haven’t been able to play deino in a week

[stone tiger]

Are you serious?

[mint sapphire]

Yup

[stone tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[mild wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/wolfquest-eduweb-wq-wq3-wolfquest-anniversary-edition-gif-1824102374144871728

ignore whats happenng just you can bite onto limbs and they damage you and you damage them at the same time

[mint sapphire]

Petits forces you to play off meta a lot of the time because the apexes are taken by packs

Rex, tri, deino

[vapid pumice]

all i want is an allo spawn in that server but somehow, someway ive managed to get more rex spawns in petits than i have allo spawns

[mint sapphire]

Only thing you can really play is stego but they’re impossible to keep for more than a few hours

[mint sapphire]

Really? I get tons of allo spawns but no Rex

I don’t play either but that’s weird

[jagged pulsar]

oh interesting. Perhaps. I'm also a big fan of that video deepie posted for a grapple rework.

[mint sapphire]

I exclusively play deino and if there’s no deino I run Diablo full aggro till I die

[quartz crest]

Do fish spawn?

[mild wagon]

👍🏾 me 2

[leaden cobalt]

Maybe they do maybe they don’t

[jagged pulsar]

Also, forgive me if this is common knowledge but as I play herbivores I'm noticing, is it just me or are fruit more nutrient dense than normal leafy food plants?

I feel like, proportionately, I get way more diet but less food from eating a bunch of bananas, mango or oranges than I would eating any leafy plant, which seems to give a roiughly equal portion of diet to food value

or am I just hallucinating

[mint sapphire]

Some do give more

[real orchid]

they are yes

[rocky lintel]

i dont think ive ever gotten a allo or rex spawn in petis

[pine summit]

Pick one

[hard loom]

1

[midnight kernel]

Fruit takes a lot of effort to go through and eat each one so they give more nutrients to be worth it

[pine summit]

3 all day

[mint sapphire]

It’s not worth playing apex on petits NA, if apexes are taken then the pack mates of the people trying to load in a Rex will just camp baby spawns until they find one and kill it so their friend loads in

[real orchid]

1

[mint sapphire]

Server rules only allow packs sizes depending on creature but if they’re not grouped and just in a discord call the whole server theoretically could be a pack lol

[nimble raven]

aw hell nah thats cringe as hell

[lucid urchin]

The golden model isn't doing him justice.

[mint sapphire]

Yeah it’s really bad especially for deino

The 1 time I got to load in I was ganked by 3 adult deinos

And it’s way easier to track deino spawns

[pliant birch]

1

[pine summit]

Is that official? It looks good

[pliant birch]

Yes

[lucid urchin]

Yep.

[nimble raven]

DUDE that reminds me, i saw a video on youtube where someone was runnin duo deinos and they kept having adult deinos running at them trying to kill them, like multiple duos coming in because they were all in a discord call and their friends were getting wooped lmfao

[pine summit]

Its pretty good, thought, i would make minor changes

[lucid urchin]

Dimorphism. My beloved.

[pine summit]

Ok no, i dont like this one

[pliant birch]

I would cram this all in one, but I’m on my phone

[nimble raven]

we need more of it fr

[pine summit]

The beard is weird

[lucid urchin]

I'd probably rock this skin because it reminds me of him.

[pliant birch]

Legacy giga is worse

[pine summit]

It was based on that most likely

[lucid urchin]

The legacy call likely was as well.

[pine summit]

No its not

[pine summit]

Im not a fan of dino crisis giga

[mild wagon]

1

[pliant birch]

It looks old and weird

Anyway I sleep now

[pine summit]

It doesnt look old
Evrima giga is way weirder
It could mind some model changes, like rex, but the whole remodel was unecessary

[pine summit]

I think that legacy giga will just be the elder version

[lucid urchin]

[pine summit]

Do we have elder giga alredy?

[dawn stratus]

yeah

[lucid urchin]

Yes. lol

[pine summit]

Oh nice, do you have an clip of it?

[lucid urchin]

Why would Giga change it's proportions so egregiously for Prime Elder?

[hard loom]

guess u havent seen this.. this is peak

[slow lintel]

you ask this question why deer?

[lucid urchin]

Lore.

[mild wagon]

bloooddyyyyy hell

[lucid urchin]

Present time.

[slow lintel]

hmmm lore

[slow lintel]

is this a cat?

[pine summit]

I mean that it will become more like the Legacy Giga, gaining characteristics, but not completely changing into a Legacy Giganotosaurus.

[pine summit]

I was right

[lucid urchin]

Smell the lore.
(Unofficial btw)

[real orchid]

borb

[pine summit]

Its pretty good, i would make changes for giga still

[near violet]

Can someone help me. Im trying to join a server but I cant join anything without a spawn code? What am I doing wrong

[cinder cave]

You’re able to spawn without a spawn code, just click on the creature you want to spawn as and follow the prompts

[lost musk]

15 tons?? Ik it’s unofficial but would it really be that size? At least in speculation

[lucid urchin]

That was a few months ago. I rushed this one.

[lost musk]

Wait wdym? What’s that got to do with the stats

[lost musk]

I meant like, was Giga actually around that size? How big was it in legacy

[near violet]

But how. I chose a dino, pressed gender and then nothing, theres no button?

[lucid urchin]

Because I wasn't thinking about the stats all too much lmao

[hoary sage]

Big ole APPR. label on that like 500kg APPR. on ceratosaurus

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-autism-yippee-yippee-creature-tbh-creature-gif-13973309825992112839

[viral shale]

Bottom right corner is the confirm button

[lost musk]

Ah alright

[honest flare]

wonder why devs havent fixed random crashes on hordetest yetr

[lucid urchin]

I need to rework that one anyway. Not happy with some elements.

[honest flare]

they should like do that

[vapid pumice]

stats? more like cats

@slow lintel just felt a shiver go up his spine

[cinder cave]

There should be a continue button to the right of that after you select your dinosaur’s sex, try logging out of the server and back in

[lost musk]

Wait how big even is Giga, was it heavier thank Rex? Ik it’s taller

[vapid pumice]

they might have their resolution at a wonky number, cutting off the button

[mild wagon]

what we thanking him for

[cinder cave]

I’m sure it’s being looked at and worked on

[lost musk]

I thought it looked great, but if you ever do redo it, I’m interested to see

[indigo cave]

IIRC it's a bit lighter

[cinder cave]

Ohh, good point @near violet make sure your game’s resolution setting match your monitor

[near violet]

Yeah im trying to fix my resolution but it wont really work what are you on rn

[lucid urchin]

Shouldn't take long. I've gotten a few pointers since then.

[merry roost]

Iirc giga is slightly taller and slightly lighter

[idle roost]

They gave us austro as a temp early treat before the weekend.(they knew and we knew there would be issues) And there was a holiday. Give the devs time.

[lost musk]

Yeah that’s what I figured

Surely not less than 9 tons tho

[true flicker]

Hi all!!! I bought the isle and tried out the game quite a bit ago…. Maybe a couple years ago or something? I ended up not liking it and stopped playing because I basically never encountered other players and it just seemed boring. I’ve recently seen TikTok streams of people playing this game and there’s tons of other folks around. Was the game previously unpopular or something??

[hoary sage]

We've been reaching new peak playercounts year on year

[honest flare]

.....

[indigo cave]

I would be happy with as low as 6 tons lmao
If nothing else to make them feel more distinct

[hoary sage]

13k in game right now and it's 9am on a Thursday

[lost musk]

No it was always popular, you just gotta know how to play, where to look, and also not give up so easily

It takes a while to get to know the game

[merry roost]

Games been steadily gaining players. Wouldnt say it was ever unpopular just niche, and the niche bubble is kinda starting to pop

[true flicker]

Coooool. I’ve been loving path of titans recently so I’ll have to give this game another try!

[honest flare]

6th time today lmao

[merry roost]

Just keep in mind its not like pot at all

[full crescent]

Hi has anyone else had a bug where you lag hard for a second and the audio turns off while playing?

[lost musk]

[mild wagon]

blame austro lol

[indigo cave]

Who the hell is harry fisher or whatever name that was

[full crescent]

If so is there any quick fix?

[mild wagon]

what the hell was that

[real orchid]

only server where you wouldn't crash at rn is eu3, austro is the issue

[lost musk]

Maybe an Austroraptor?

[true flicker]

From what I remember it seems similar… more realistic I suppose and better graphics but generally a similar concept

[idle roost]

Well its a bit confusing for people because the branch that is automatically downloaded is the outdated version. The active branch is evrima which you can switch by going to steam/right click the isle/properties/beta/evrima

[mild wagon]

not at all ngl other then dinos

[lost musk]

For one you don’t need to collect nuts and rocks off the floor to stimulate your body into performing the basic task known as mitosis

[true flicker]

Isn’t it a dinosaur survival game?

[indigo cave]

NGL feels refreshing seeing a non scam post like those lmao

[idle roost]

The Isle shines in unoffcial servers too. Just have to find the right one for your preferences

[hoary sage]

Your resolution is off, check your settings

[hoary sage]

And that's about where the similarities end

[near violet]

Im aware but I tried every settings rn also doing the alt+enter enter

[true flicker]

That’s pretty similar imo. There’s not many of those games out there

[lost musk]

One thing pot has over TI is that their trike isn’t a hopeless happy meal

[idle roost]

The isle? Currently yes. It will or was plan to be a horror/survival game. Theres alot of lore.

[midnight kernel]

The minute humans get added the isle is going to explode tbh. I have a couple friends who love survival with guns but didnt click with the dino stuff

[viral shale]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news

[nimble raven]

eh I mean sort of, PoT has community servers that are more survival based, the official game is not at all like the isle in terms of gameplay

[merry roost]

I cannot wait for tribal gameplay

[lost musk]

I’ve seen eos take on apex megapacks of like 5

[indigo cave]

Think about it this way. Path of titans is more of an MMO while The isle tries (??) to be a survival game

[true flicker]

So I need to do this to play on the popular server/version?

[merry roost]

Dude

[mild wagon]

i am reallllyy hoping the hit on humans well

[void marlin]

Both are survival games tbh

[honest flare]

ok

[mild wagon]

who the hell is harry fisher

[hoary sage]

@velvet bridge No more of that

[idle roost]

Yes. Legacy is the abandoned branch. And outdated

[velvet bridge]

his goal was pretty damn good though ??

[viral shale]

Against decent rexes and titans they fold, even 1v1. Everyone in the community agrees it is the worst apex by a large margin

[cinder cave]

1720x1080 is standard I think

[velvet bridge]

🙁

[hoary sage]

1920

[void marlin]

What did he do...?

[midnight kernel]

There are entirely different goals, for clarity: Isle is pure survival. Pot is an MMO. You hunt to collect and decorate your home cave. You dont permanently lose progress upon death either.

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-mediocre-so-so-kinda-maybe-gif-13935570

[idle roost]

^^

[velvet bridge]

ask u lot to vote for my friend in a poll for a best goal award

[true flicker]

Oh.. I don’t play PoT as an MMO

[jagged pulsar]

Eh, yes but yhe isle is focused more on the survival aspect, being an enhanced player driven ecosystem with survival at the forefront, and combat not being the perogative(though necessary for hunting).

Whereas POT is more of a combat focused game, with the ability to make...I guess a kit/load out with its perk and subspecies system, with survival being there as a backdrop maintenence rather than the core experience.

[void marlin]

[velvet bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[indigo cave]

The isle should lock you out of that creature after death for however long the gestational period was irl

[jagged pulsar]

The isle is more straightforward, gritty survival and PoT is kinda mmo like

[midnight kernel]

Then you would be incorrectly comparing the games, because even if you play them both to survive, does not make them similar if that makes sense

[void marlin]

That's devious
I love it

[true flicker]

Ok…. I personally found it similar when I played both of them but idk 😭

[indigo cave]

Anything to stop people from spamming rex

[midnight kernel]

Its a fairly common thing that comes up tbh. Just clarifying 🤷

[idle roost]

There use to be like a 5-10 min timer on spawn location or dino species. I cant remember

[strange kettle]

Well yes

[jagged pulsar]

Also not to mention the intended end goal of the isle is to have humans exist as well, I think dondi has cited day z and tarkov as the sort of direction/inspiration for human playability, with other people existing as the fauna humans can come across in the shape of dinosaurs in the wild.

[hoary sage]

It was for locations while those were still selectable

[jagged pulsar]

whereas PoT is PURELY just be a dino, with no lore or backdrop to the world

[oblique stone]

[plush folio]

Took my baby spino out on the beach

[real orchid]

ptera killed me as another ptera for no reason, no canni skin or anything

[strange kettle]

Dude looks like a real wet blanket

[indigo cave]

The isle also has zero lore unless you specifically seek it out what...

[strange kettle]

Wrong but ok

[oblique stone]

[mild wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-squarepants-belly-fat-put-that-thing-away-gif-480817298161265063

[jagged pulsar]

the difference is the Isle HAS lore, existing in world, implied via the presence of human structures and easter eggs existing in this discord, on their official youtube and will have more genuine discoverable lore when humans come out

whether it's present in game at this moment or not isn't what I said. I said the isle HAS lore, PoT, to my knowledge, doesn't beyond "dinosaurs"

[near violet]

Got it thanks. Whats the voice commands?

[idle roost]

The sun isnt there, as long as I keep my eyes closed

[indigo cave]

Why so many ❓
No ordinary player has any idea the isle has any lore unless they join here and realise there are lore channels

[hoary sage]

Those are only on a select few unofficial servers

[hoary sage]

The existence of human structures on the map is lore

[strange kettle]

Because they don’t think past the surface level lmao

[void marlin]

#isle-discussion message

[indigo cave]

When it doesn't affect gameplay at all, 99% of people won't care

[idle roost]

The wording could have been better

[void marlin]

1% won't care*

[strange kettle]

So? Don’t switch the goalpost

[jagged pulsar]

ok but that literally isn't what I said. I said, there is lore to the isle, there isn't to PoT, that's it.

"most people don't know it exists" does not mean it doesn't exist, and I didn't say wherther the knowledge of it was COMMONPLACE

I simply stated it existed

[void marlin]

Atleast, when I saw humans structures, I got interested

[indigo cave]

My goalpost is that yes the isle has lore but it effectively doesn't

[real orchid]

lore usually doesn't effect gameplay usually, it is the world you play in

[jagged pulsar]

whether people care or not, has no bearing on what I said, which is, boiled down to it's finest point, that it EXISTS

[cinder cave]

No clue

[ancient mesa]

Some poor soul who can tell me, does players still crash alot on hordetest?
I dont want to spend my time trying to get in if its still a thing…

[void marlin]

What's a rumplestiltskin?

[idle roost]

He steals first born hatchling dinos from nests

[void marlin]

I already like him.

[jagged pulsar]

not...as MUCH, i don't think, but crashing does still happen. But since it's largely suspected that the crashing is directly tied to austro's existence, I imagine the crashing has lessened somewhat because now the initial hype is down, more players are trickling back to playing other animals while they wait for austro to get updated

[strange kettle]

Yuh

[stone tiger]

Quetz?

[ancient mesa]

Appreciate y’all ive tried getting an answer like 3 times now xD

[daring imp]

dondi ples update ht

[void marlin]

No

[indigo cave]

If that's what you meant yeah but it feels entirely inconsequential to the compassion between games

[trail sigil]

GUYS why my screen turning red?? even i already ate a food still red

[void marlin]

POT AND THE ISLE ARE BOTH GOOD GAMES

But with different objectives.

[indigo cave]

The blood effect?

[trail sigil]

yes blood effectr

[hoary sage]

Because it takes time to heal

[indigo cave]

That's not food, that's your health
You are hurt

[near violet]

how do I speak in game?

[trail sigil]

hahaha i tought t was hungry

[nimble raven]

they both have their respective issues too

[hoary sage]

Press Enter to open chat

[void marlin]

Exactly

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/say-it-loud-back-happy-excited-gif-21013095

[trail sigil]

daf why im getting hurt im just walking only

[hoary sage]

Could you show a screenshot?

[nimble raven]

BoB just sittin in the corner half dead

[void marlin]

If it has dinosaurs, I'm playing it

[indigo cave]

Starving hurts you lmao

[trail sigil]

but i already ate i catch some

[void marlin]

You gotta heal

[hoary sage]

Yea you're just still damaged from starving probably. It takes time to heal

[trail sigil]

ok so how sir? should i just sit? xD

[hoary sage]

You always heal, but you heal fastest when resting yea

[indigo cave]

Your health will regen slowly
Lay down with H, it will make your health regen a bit faster and also get your stamina back

[void marlin]

Yep, press H

[trail sigil]

THANKS guys ^^

[jagged pulsar]

Yeah yhe blood decal just means youve lost some health, even if you fixed the drain by eating that prior damage is still there so you just gotta wait it out

[indigo cave]

Do we know how much laying down speeds up the healing?

[trail sigil]

tthanks guys ❤️

[void marlin]

Yw

[indigo cave]

It feels like 50% extra or smt

[hoary sage]

Someone's probably done the testing but it ain't me

[void marlin]

20% for me

[trail sigil]

but my screen still so dark. XD is it normal or just my settings/ xD

[hoary sage]

Tap X to enable nightvision

[void marlin]

You need to use nightvision
Press X (to doubt)

[trail sigil]

bROOOOOOOO! WOW HAHAHAHAHHAA

[indigo cave]

Press X for night vision
Keel it on during day too, it just gives you better vision 24/7

[trail sigil]

1st time to this game

haha daaang it helps a lot guys!!!

[indigo cave]

What critter are you playing?

[void marlin]

Please don't say Rex

[idle roost]

Sometimes you're not so lucky

[indigo cave]

That's unlucky lmao

[hoary sage]

Since you're out of stamina, you have to rest to recover that too

[strong vigil]

Been there.. RIP 😭

[lost musk]

I want austro polarized vision

[trail sigil]

yeah

[hoary sage]

When you get too winded you won't be able to regenerate it while moving

[trail sigil]

ill hide somewhere 1st xD

[void marlin]

Omni? Good choice ngl

[lost musk]

When the game punishes you for being semi aquatic as a semi aquatic

[near violet]

I meant voice chat

[indigo cave]

I think deino should just be unable to eat anything smaller than 10% it's body mass (I hate when they kill tiny tiers)

[hoary sage]

What server are you on?

[red egret]

LMFAO. that needs to be a new meme

[mild wagon]

You dont deserve to be beipi

[jagged pulsar]

what the hell happened here

[near violet]

Idk? Evirma

[indigo cave]

What....

[hoary sage]

Press Tab and look in the right to see the server name

[red egret]

sup lunary

[hoary sage]

yoooo

[void marlin]

hi zoom

[red egret]

hows it going

[near violet]

Just died, joined an eu server wdym, is it not possible to voice chat?

[red egret]

yay ian!

[hoary sage]

Only a select few unofficial servers offer voicechat

[real orchid]

there is no official voice chat

[hoary sage]

busy busy

[near violet]

ah fok me I thought it was on every server thats a bummer

[spark nacelle]

who up isling they dinosaur

[hoary sage]

I need this overlayed with a thwomp SFX

[fathom hemlock]

Where do I post bugs?

[idle roost]

Not everyone can pull off the Triple Lindy.

Someone please get this reference

[indigo cave]

Based on the sheer success of voicechat servers it would be incredibly nice if they added officials with proximity voice

[hoary sage]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[hoary sage]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-sid-life-no-thanks-i-choose-life-gif-14162870

[idle roost]

Oh goodness

[hoary sage]

Though humans are planned to have VOIP, so once that's in it'd be nice to make an easy inbuilt option for unofficials to toggle it

[devout tendon]

did the servers roll back?

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-place-idk-i-dont-know-confused-sorry-gif-12065543464589523643

[idle roost]

Official server Isle voip = if cod lobbies and roblox had a baby

[devout tendon]

my deino went from 61% back to 26%

[indigo cave]

Inmortal jellyfish deino

[devout tendon]

6 hours gone ;(

[real orchid]

humans will have something like that

[indigo cave]

I know but I feel like it's a shame that such a crazy popular mechanic is reserved to unofficials only

[devout tendon]

can anyone explain why this happened?

[viral shale]

Are you on ht or evrima

[devout tendon]

ht

[indigo cave]

That unfortunately happens in HT a lot

[viral shale]

Ht does rollbacks every restart

[devout tendon]

6 hour rollbacks?

[cinder cave]

I recently started watching this show

[jagged pulsar]

lmaooo, just watched as a fg omni literally blipped into existence in front of me on a bridge as a fg kentro, fella must've just logged in

I let him live despite my normal on sight policy w omnis bc spawn killing just is distasteful to me

[viral shale]

Yes

[past dune]

Who is is le

[cinder cave]

T t is le

[indigo cave]

People with morals? In the isle? Happy to see it

[devout tendon]

seems a bit un-necessary

[viral shale]

It's not on purpose mate

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-the-child-alex-jones-gif-25183774

[jagged pulsar]

I generally play herbivores and when I do I usually play with a rather reserved, "don't start fights unless they start with you first" policy, save if I'm intervening on behalf of another of my species, or it's an already existing fight

[devout tendon]

wasn't mentioned on the bugs list

[jagged pulsar]

plus as someone who's been killed within moments of spawning in, Ik how scummy and sucky it is as a feeling

[indigo cave]

Hell yeah. Same, I don't mess with people unless they mess with me

[half ingot]

anyone elses ht is absolutetly lagging like i went from 120 frames to 20

[viral shale]

I think it's common sense to know that servers rewinding back in time every restart isn't intentional

[rocky gulch]

Hi I bought 2 month old Indian ringed parrots so the question is when I can stop hand feeding them?

[indigo cave]

What

[devout tendon]

they used to roll them back by about 40 minutes on one of the old stress tests

[devout tendon]

no need to be so harsh over it either

[vapid pumice]

@hoary sage @tiny burrow im making nachos (seasoned ground turkey, lettuce, queso, nacho cheese doritos) for breakfast

sorry for the lack of food updates lately

[real orchid]

[indigo cave]

Is it not? Obviously not out of malice by the devs but why does it roll back when evrima doesn't?

[real orchid]

Because evrima is not test servers with all sort of monitoring mechanics in the background

[hoary sage]

HT servers usually have data trackers/loggers/profilers/whatever you wanna call them running

[midnight kernel]

Im assuming a data leak somewhere. Its happened a few times.

[viral shale]

Do you mean a memory leak
That and a data leak are very different

[jagged pulsar]

Even as a carnivore, I generally kinda choose things that can coast by as ai hunters or scavengers. Cerato and PT are the two I play most, though lately as PT tbf I have been leaning into the harrassment role of harvesting babies in sanctuary.

[viral shale]

Ht servers have always been notoriously unstable for the reasons mentioned above

[wind acorn]

That actually sounds really good

[indigo cave]

Meaning? I don't know why data trackers make servers reroll (I'm not into computer science)

[rocky gulch]

Guys any dev activity

[real orchid]

No

[rocky gulch]

😔

[vapid pumice]

doritos are the only proper option for homemade nachos

[indigo cave]

I love you. Cera is my favourite carnivore for this, you can play so comfy as a living trash compactor without messing with anyone ❤️

[wind acorn]

They’re always on

[hoary sage]

I'm also not, but my assumption is that it may make saving player data take longer which is why people's dinos go back to an older "snapshot" of what they were at

[rocky gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1490805453918048388/Video_Project_21.gif

[indigo cave]

I see 🤔

[vapid pumice]

((and this is why austro is a valid playable to be added, despite being lackluster in the combat department... excluding bugs like the demonic kick))

[wind acorn]

Yes!

[indigo cave]

What does austro hunt to survive? Turtles and...? Are fish fixed?

[midnight kernel]

Probably memory but i think both have happened. Thelag is because of the programs. The wipes are something else entirely and we obviously dont want that to be pushed to the main branch so just gotta wait till it gets figured out. Heck they might even be doing it on purpose to test something not out of malice but to iron out any weak points.

[jagged pulsar]

like don't get me wrong, fighting is fun but more often than not in this game so many fights are 1v2+ and I can do solo duels, but having multiple moving targets generally causes me to panick and I die so fast, so I just stick to avoiding any and all fights unless I'm sure I can win/it seems fair

unless you're a carno. If you're a carno I will always try to beef with you as galli, kentro, or pachy bc you are fully in control of leavingf that match and if you die it's on you

[real orchid]

It is ai hunter yes

[viral shale]

Spearfishing works, the fish itself still is tiny
As for the actual fish swimming around, no

[jagged pulsar]

plus the pachy/carno matchup is genuinely I think one of the most rewarding and engaging fights if you're in a 1v1.

[mild wagon]

[jagged pulsar]

the two of them are basically spiritual archrivals imo

[indigo cave]

Fighting is very fun but I just go to death match servers for it lmao
In "real" games, I far rather avoid conflict whenever possible

[real orchid]

two headbutters

[devout tendon]

anyone else noticed EU3 has no Austro? atleast for me it doesn't

[real orchid]

yes and eu3 is the only server what is not causing players to crash because it doesnt have austro

[indigo cave]

Would you say it's easy to maintain a healthy diet with it? Or beipi has it significantly easier?

[real orchid]

i think beipi and austro are equal on that, it is pretty easy

[indigo cave]

Sweet

[devout tendon]

I mean it's a descent 1v1 but as someone who used to play pachy alot I stopped because Carno is now able to spam it's headbutt attack which attacks faster than the bite and does more damage but while running does nowhere near enough damage to defend itself like it could before and still manages to be the most annoying OP thing it has

[nimble raven]

I thought it was EU1 that didnt have it lol, I was confused on why the fps and performance was worse, it seems like austro kinda borked the servers a bit

[scenic glacier]

Guys.. today is my birthday..

[real orchid]

not just the servers, but causing people to crash
that is why eu3 is the most stable server rn

[nimble raven]

happy birthday! 😄

[stone tiger]

Happy Birthday

[stone tiger]

Dinosaurs

[nimble raven]

yeahh ima check it out later to see if the fps improves on that server lol. I was around 160 before and now im closer to 120

[real orchid]

oof, lets hope

[devout tendon]

oh a cockatiel

[nimble raven]

and I crashed just now while heading to sanc lol

[real orchid]

[nimble raven]

time to check EU3 then

wow there is almost no one on EU3

[real orchid]

eu3 is very chill rn, it has very little people because no austro

[shrewd sky]

cus no austro people want austro

[livid brook]

Anyone here doing Kent on US2?

[stone tiger]

Austro is no longer on the Hordetest?

[shrewd sky]

it is but not on eu3

[nimble raven]

WOW my performance is WORSE on the non-austro server, thats amazing

[shrewd sky]

what gpu u got

[real orchid]

you might have better luck asking in #evrima-na

[nimble raven]

im down to 80-100 lmfao

[stone tiger]

Hordetesting EU 3?

[shrewd sky]

brotha

[nimble raven]

5080

[shrewd sky]

BROTHA U COMPLAINING FOR THAT

U STINKY

[real orchid]

me and my 30 fps in ht rn lol

[shrewd sky]

<@&933486433342222376>

[lost citrus]

<@&933486433342222376>

[real orchid]

lol

[mild wagon]

<@&933486433342222376>

[nimble raven]

nah im not complaining, I've been rockin like 20-30 for 90% of the time ive been playin the isle. im just pointin out how wierd it is. the austro servers have better performance than the non-austro one

[mild wagon]

why does everyone wanna hangout with lily so much

[lost citrus]

cuz she's hot

[shrewd sky]

wait... how do you know that

[real orchid]

[lost citrus]

I saw the gif in the server preview

and obviously that's real

[nimble raven]

totally not fake. fake person

[real orchid]

<- real frog

[nimble raven]

EVERYONE IS AI

ALL OF YOU ARENT REAL..did I just hear a baby rex on EU3. theres like 11 people on bruh

[real orchid]

heard allo earlier lol

[mild wagon]

hmmm i dont objective ppl so i am gonna assume shes got a lovely personality

[nimble raven]

im playin beipi

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-futurama-fry-not-a-robot-gif-5096706372795824983

[real orchid]

also there was noncanni skin canni ptera around, do not trust any of them

[lost citrus]

it's not objectifying someone to just say they are hot

[nimble raven]

w h a t

[real orchid]

yes, it killed my ptera for no reason

[maiden wolf]

call me hot it’s fine

[nimble raven]

bruhhh

[mild wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[mild wagon]

fair enough mb

[nimble raven]

sometimes I forget its 2026

we're almost half way through the year

[real orchid]

time flies

[hoary sage]

dont say that...

[nimble raven]

well to be fair this years been pretty chaotic so

[real orchid]

tho that is good so the games i am waiting for will be ready "quickly"

[mild wagon]

it feeeelss like it for me tho

[real orchid]

i wouldnt know, been sleeping through most of it

[nimble raven]

what? that we're almost half way through the year even though it january felt like a month ago

[nimble raven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thanos-reality-is-often-disappointing-1

[scenic glacier]

Tyyy

[scenic glacier]

Tyyy broooo

[shrewd sky]

time flies by in the yellow and green stick around you'll see what i mean

[real orchid]

[shrewd sky]

dont tell me u dont know that

[mild wagon]

heard that song on the radio like 2 weeks ago was very weird

[real orchid]

no never heard of that

[shrewd sky]

wdym weird

[mild wagon]

i was 8 when it came out i think

[shrewd sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4FPe5qwTro&list=RDs4FPe5qwTro&start_radio=1

[real orchid]

I have never heard this song before now lol

[shrewd sky]

what do u thinks of that

[real orchid]

not my type of music but still good

[shrewd sky]

i had angry dog gif on standby, i get it tho

[nimble raven]

man EU3 is hella chill rn on HT

[shrewd sky]

same, now come to the water

[nimble raven]

especially the sancs, its like free eats rn, as a herbi anyway

[nimble raven]

I will...soon. im a beipi lmao

[real orchid]

yup, and if you are at hl sanc the galli can get stuck in the sanc and become food for juvi carnis

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[real orchid]

that dog

[mild wagon]

carno veryyy good against austros

[shrewd sky]

fr come to the water i am so lonely

[shrewd sky]

not this one

[indigo cave]

Why are they on land 😭

[nimble raven]

well yeah the only offensive ability austro has is pounce and it does no damage lmfao

[real orchid]

it is funny

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dillom-rage-dog-angry-dog-gif-17954176246139200797

[mild wagon]

the ocean is to the right but they were tryna hunt a taco, i snuck up on them

[opaque yoke]

ive been dying to play ht but my dino keeps getting rolled back? any way of fixing that issue?

[nimble raven]

cuz most people are austro and they have a false sense of security rn lol

[real orchid]

it is known issue and we as players cannot do anything about it

[opaque yoke]

how frequent is it? its happened just about everytime for me, idk if thats just my luck or if it really is that common

[vapid laurel]

Bagagwa

[real orchid]

every server restart

[opaque yoke]

oh yikes

[shrewd sky]

restarts are in pined msgs so u can see when to start playing

[jaunty frost]

maybe cause its a piscivore

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sweetdee-awesome-oasis-gif-10402033

[shrewd sky]

also if u dont want to crash go on eu3 but there is no austro there

[opaque yoke]

i havnt been crashing, just losing dinos. lost a rex and lots of omnis

[nimble raven]

so is beipi and its got a better offensive capability lol

[vast pond]

are there usually deinos in west access?

[nimble raven]

why would you grow a rex on a testing server that is unstable as hell.

[shrewd sky]

i am growing new deino every day did grow now 4 to 75%,4 days 4 deinos

[real orchid]

not really

[lost citrus]

very rarely

[shrewd sky]

cus we want to u stinky

[real orchid]

already at 75% on the new one?

[nimble raven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dead-my-honest-reaction--k01KQ3Z4MGC9HJK5PA3Y658Z919

[shrewd sky]

63 but i aint gonna die (i hope)

[real orchid]

gotcha gotcha

[shrewd sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCGIRz0g10&list=RD5TCGIRz0g10&start_radio=1&t=2037s

listening to this so i cant die

[arctic orchid]

How do you fish as austro

[real orchid]

lol fair

[opaque yoke]

oh man that sucks

[real orchid]

tip toes into water, press G
ONLY during day

[shrewd sky]

not rly i like it

[nimble raven]

is it just me or is the thunder SFX not deep enough and its a little too loud

I hope we get other storm variants where its just not the same SFX, some have less thunder, maybe deeper and more distant

[jaunty frost]

The devs have said before so I will reiterate
This game does not care about your metagamey whims and will not cater towards PVP players and making things "balanced" in the general sense. A piscivore will eat fish and does not need to be able to fight things, its niche may just be to escape. They are creating and ecosystem here which relies on things not being "balanced" (to an extent)

[shrewd sky]

i want to hear it in my brain

[nimble raven]

what are you wafflin about bro, I am just saying austro could use another kicking move lmfao

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-cartoon-cool-cats-the-milk-chug-red-cat-gif-6323693636665879865

[nimble raven]

its current kit is a bit restrictive and clunky

but it is WIP still so we'll see if it gets changes

[winged anchor]

Yeah, except people are complaining about balance because they can't survive, not they can't fight. Trike dies to Rex, can't survive. Adult Rex gets hunted down by prime rex that is twice as heavy cuz its faster

[vapid laurel]

I don't entirely agree with the idea that "eats fish = shouldn't fight".

[dusky night]

press G at the waters edge. Same as PT. I encountered a bug yesterday where I couldn't get it to work until I reset my keybinds in the settings menu. I bind my CorpseGrab to a different button, but that button also wasn't working. After the reset, G worked and then changing CorpseGrab from G to my mouse also worked.

[nimble raven]

yeah its pretty stupid lmfao

[manic fulcrum]

fish is only one nutrient btw

Unless we also count elite fish

[kind vortex]

any new dinos yet???

[cursive rampart]

Since which one?

[real orchid]

austro?

[kind vortex]

like this year 0-o lol

[real orchid]

kentro and austro in that case

[cursive rampart]

Kentro and Austro are in hordetesting

[kind vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-i-cant-stop-this-plane-youknowicantstopthisplane-jurassic-park-3-jurassic-park-3-plane-jurassic-park-3-cant-stop-gif-3872676441785635363

[raven sorrel]

Does anyone know if Evrima can be run on Linux?

[kind vortex]

im ready to play the isle again but ill jus wait for spino.. in year 2099

[jagged pulsar]

true, but even in spite of that all my carno matchups lately as a fg pachy, not even prime, have been in my favor

as soon as you rib smash them if they aren't tehmselves a prime or full adult they tend to choose flight over fight, if solo

[nimble raven]

it cant, if it could I would switch lol

[cursive rampart]

Hey, maybe Spino next year!!!

[nimble raven]

well actually the isle probably can run on linux but im not entirely sure if either windows or linux runs it better. but the devs probably prioritize the majority in terms of optimization which is windows.

[jagged pulsar]

also if those dilos from US1 HT that just killed a kentro pair are in here, GG. that was a good siege, idk how much damage we did to you but ik the younger kentro hit the smaller of you once, and I hit the larger with a passing glance power swing

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh, if we could get Ovi before end of HT, and have bary & Ava sometime after in another HT. Maybe Cama or Quetz at end of year

Would be nice

[raven sorrel]

Why can't I switch?
I wanted to switch to Linux, but I don't want to give up the game.

[vapid pumice]

spino isnt real, it cant hurt you

[real orchid]

only legacy can be played on linux, evrima or hordetest do not work

[nimble raven]

im talking about myself. but uh its up to you

[nimble raven]

wishful thinking, especially since we're about to be half way through the year but we'll see

[kind vortex]

nooooooooooo

[vapid laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134074311599194214/1498146061179682906/HYPSIMAD_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[real orchid]

i wanna believe! ovi is right there!

[wise tide]

Is Austro still in HT, or did they take it out after last weekend?

[real orchid]

it is in every server expect eu3 lol

[nimble raven]

I'd rather see them worry about fixing the issues with austro and get the build as polished as possible to go to main branch already and then get ovi to start with the next HT

[vapid laurel]

I ated the Austro. Sorry.

[cursive rampart]

I'm honestly only expecting Austro, Kentro, Bary and Ava this year

Which is not even bad at all

[wise tide]

Ok, thanks for the info.

[manic fulcrum]

I’d rather they fix the issues with many other systems, worry about playables later

[raven sorrel]

Why?
It doesn't work on EasyCheat?

[manic fulcrum]

Or at least, have a bit of consistency of both

[nimble raven]

one issue at a time I guess lmfao

https://tenor.com/view/oof-sqidward-patrick-star-ow-cash-regester-gif-15481112

[real orchid]

i dont know why, but i am assuming it is easy anticheat issue

[wise tide]

At current pace, we'll be lucky to see Cama before the end of 2027. 3 species a year. Just plan for that.
2026: Kentro, Austro Ovi
2027: Bary Ava, Cama.

[raven sorrel]

ohh..

[real orchid]

complitely different people work on those things

[agile bramble]

do EU servers crash just much on hordetest?? as US

[real orchid]

eu3 doesnt make you crash

[mild wagon]

whhhyy the hell is bary and ava in 2027 when bary is right behind ovi?

[vapid laurel]

That's why it's kinda hard for me to be excited for new playables. They're very cool! But...zones...AI being AI...balance oddities...
I'd like what we have polished a tad more first.

[real orchid]

no quetz????

[wise tide]

Because 3 a year. 2026 is going to be Kentro, Austro and Ovi
that puts Bary in 2027.

[wise tide]

First dino of 2028

[mild wagon]

why the hell are we locked to 3 a year?

[manic fulcrum]

The current pace? 2023 we had 6 playables. This year we now have two just before June

We could see at least a few more this year

[shrewd sky]

Nuh uh

[real orchid]

[shrewd sky]

2027 quetz

[cursive rampart]

We're technically not

[nimble raven]

I really hope you are extremely wrong lmfao

[mild wagon]

ik i am talking abouit him

[wise tide]

Because it takes that long for the Devs to implement?

[manic fulcrum]

This

[cursive rampart]

I do think we'll get Bary and Ava this year still besides the other 3

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ragoon-linea-raccoon-racoon-trash-panda-gif-14819269680801250685

[wise tide]

Technically live has seen 0 this far in 026.

[pastel sleet]

id guess atleast 2 more as the year aint even halfway over and the next ones are i think based on already existing playables, except for bary ofc

[mild wagon]

we already know bary is only behind ovi because ovi is easier why on earth would they stop then and then only push it to 27

[sick kraken]

are the servers better than last week? like less crashing

[cursive rampart]

Hopefully sparring is kind to Ava

[real orchid]

no and it is all because of austro, eu3 is the only server without it and it doesnt cause people to crash

[wise tide]

I could be. I'm just assessing based on what I have seen in 2025 and so far this year.

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-phil-leotardo-apples-and-oranges-apples-and-bowling-balls-shinebox-gif-7454553119155878957

[sick kraken]

ah ok so once the austro update comes itll be smooth sailing

[shrewd sky]

u stinky

[nimble raven]

well tbf we've gotten a lot of good stuff in the HT other than just playables

[real orchid]

that is the hope

[jagged pulsar]

Also had the most silent yet tense standoff hunt with an allo earlier. 96% frail kentro, with a fresh juvenile in tow to our mz.

Full grown allo comes up, no sound, no charges, nothing, so we immediately hug a rock and begin inching from cover to cover

Honestly if he wanted to that allo could've demolished us both I'm sure but I've noticed certain carni players get REAL weird when they're trying to bait you by getting just outta range and trying to get you to chase, and as a frail I couldn't do that, and a chase surely would've let him know I was frail and emboldened him to just face tank me

eventually he just went for it, took a thagomizer straight to the dome, and immediately backed off, trailed us for a few minutes before just leaving

quiet, tense, immersive gameplay moment for me

[wise tide]

True! I'm not denying that HT has done well or that good things aren't being added. I'm just assessing "Playable Dinos to Live", and we had 3 last year. I suspect similar this year.

[vapid pumice]

realistic combat moments like this are what keep me coming back to the game tbh

[nimble raven]

yeah I see what you mean I just hope you end up being wrong

[real orchid]

theyre too used to herbis just chasing them when herbis dont need to do that to defend themselves

[vapid pumice]

that, and the chill, mundane moments where youre walking around and notice how pretty the game is and just take a moment to stare at the landscape

[analog widget]

So are dinosaurs on ht not saving after logout?

[jagged pulsar]

honestly, it's in the small 1v1's and small group hunts that the game shines, when it's played the way it's advertised in the trailers, it genuinely is SO rewarding

[wise tide]

I hope I am wrong too! I just don't like hopium-ing myself into disappointment.

[nimble raven]

currently its almost june. and Dae is right, live branch has been left in the dust this whole year so ima keep my expectations low so im not dissapointed lol

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf I can accept less playables if we actually make good progress mechanically

[nimble raven]

that wasnt really an option before the map changes lmfao, I actually end up enjoying the view tons of times in this game which hasnt been the case for a while.

[manic fulcrum]

I just want the MZ fixed man

[tawdry ermine]

How much damage is the austro kick even supossed to do normally

[real orchid]

those things are different people's jobs

[jagged pulsar]

this is exactly what I explained to the kentro I had in tow. Most carni players from my experience try to bait, and expect you to chase, and use your movement to their advantage as more mobile/agile combatants to get your weak spots

but when, as a kentro for example, you just silently stare, creeping forward, back to cover and tail raised, NOT swinging at the bluff charges or even moving towards them, its like they don't know what to do/how to respond to that level of pure defense

[manic fulcrum]

Yes and no

[manic fulcrum]

For animation sure. Programming no

[real orchid]

those who work on playables don't work on mechanics like mz pz

[nimble raven]

herbivore gameplay is in shambles atm, they need to make changes especially when cama comes

[jagged pulsar]

but it was also desparation on my end cuz had I tried to chase, he'd have seen my weird elder kentro waddle and good chance would've just destroyed me knowing I'm frail

[nimble raven]

I assumed they have different programmers for different things but maybe not.

[manic fulcrum]

Programmers implement playables and mechanics. They are the glue of everything

[real orchid]

ye exactly, very smart!

[manic fulcrum]

Filipe one day works on skin system stuff, another he is working on Kentro reflective damage

[fossil umbra]

Are fish just no longer part of the game? I've swam around for 5 hours on multiple servers and there have been no elite fish at all

[real orchid]

how do you know this?

[vapid pumice]

eh, i think there are still moments in live branch where its easy to appreciate the graphics of the game. especially around sunset (with lumen on, of course.)

[real orchid]

they do still spawn, they just move around now

[fossil umbra]

okay, move around where? Like I said, I have seen 0 and I've swam the whole map

[jagged pulsar]

the only time I ever aggro as an herbivore is if I'm a galli or pachy, and even then that's if I can't find a rock. well with galli I usually engage bc I know I'm faster but

as anything else, I only aggro if it's a group attack, I have herd mates, and there's multiple attackers, cuz there's less abiolity to focus coordination on JUST me

[wise tide]

I still see them on Unofficial servers these days.

[manic fulcrum]

Filipe is the lead programmer. He programs almost everything

[fossil umbra]

where?

[real orchid]

around the water, remember someone else could have ate before u

[real orchid]

he is not only person working on this stuff tho

[fossil umbra]

no, no one else is around me. I've swam the entire map multiple times and there are no fish. I saw a school of fish, flying 20' above the water tho

[wise tide]

I have seen them on Noobz server, in the delta and in HL and Water Access.

[tiny burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/king-kong-wires-electricity-hungry-eat-gif-16223541

[real orchid]

oh youre in evrima, yeah gl lmao

[manic fulcrum]

Yes. That was my point though. Dinosaurs require animation and programming

Mechanics are mostly just programming. With occasional animation work

[fossil umbra]

oh, I can try the other one if that means the game is actually fun

[jagged pulsar]

yeah this most recent hordetest really is just a massive beautification besides the new playables. redwoods, new lighting and new foliage assets just made the map so much nicer to move around and exist in

[manic fulcrum]

The programmers work on both

[wise tide]

I have not seen working fish on Official servers in over a year.

[fossil umbra]

but how hard is it to program fish into a survival game where the deino sorta relies on it since its too slow for land and the AI aren't programmed to frequent the shoreline for water? Kinda pathetic

[tiny burrow]

Beats me, though it seems hard to me if theyre having this much trouble.

[real orchid]

they don't make the playables tho, just because they do one thing for them doesn't mean they don't focus on actual mechanics and he is just one person and there is most likely way more than just him working on stuff on the background

[mild wagon]

they are working on it in hordetest calm down

[real orchid]

ht has much better fish and fish spawns even if they're buggy rn

[fossil umbra]

oh, okay, cause it makes more sense to keep making new versions instead of making the recent version playable, got it. I should calm down for expecting to get some value from a game I paid for. Path of Titans it is, thanks for the help!

[tiny burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-then-gif-26630246

[mild wagon]

right cuz thats what i said good luck with that you loser

[real orchid]

lol i love how they always pull up another game with dinos

[nimble raven]

I LOVEE how thunder and rain is muffled now with enviornmental shelters properly working. before it didnt matter and rain used to just clip through everything but now sound and rain and wind is kept out

and the underwater muffling sounds better too I think

[vapid pumice]

... what do you think hordetest is?

hordetest is literally making the recent versions playable, via testing/stressing the upcoming update.

[manic fulcrum]

Yes there are multiple programmers who all do different stuff, I’m just saying the programmers aren’t restricted to mechanics or dinosaurs. Because they have to do both at some point or another

[vapid pumice]

he left lmao, incoming reddit post

[tiny burrow]

Hordetest is the testing branch for new content and WIP features before it goes to the evrima branch, if you didnt know that beforehand.

Every game has testing branches, some just stay private. The devs dont have the volunteer sizes to adequately test everything before sending things out, so we get a public test branch instead.

ALL THAT EXTRA TYPING FOR NOTHING

[real orchid]

will not be surprised even slightest "theyre all so rude in the isle server and the game is never getting finished!!!!"

[mild wagon]

tbf i didnt need to call him loser so i guess hes semi right lol

[tiny burrow]

Uncalled for. Mute yourself for 3 days and nights as punishment

[mild wagon]

true and i will lash my self too

[coarse nimbus]

@past dune

[nimble raven]

why would bro go to PoT, he's just gonna be dissapointed all over again

all of the dino games have issues lmfao

[real orchid]

fr fr

[lost ferry]

why does rex snore so loud

[manic fulcrum]

Lowkey I wasn’t paying attention. What was the issue he had

[nimble raven]

fish not spawning

[grand grotto]

except ark ofc

[mild wagon]

evrima fish spawns

[real orchid]

fish in evrima not spawning

[nimble raven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/podozritelno-kot

[mild wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[coarse nimbus]

Well…

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[real orchid]

https://giphy.com/gifs/silly-goofy-goose-0geEIktOAMxBky4dgW

[nimble raven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/omni-man-invincible-14

[manic fulcrum]

Right. So when I got to pot to grow and mystery bush #7 isn’t spawning it’s fine

When I literally need quests to grow

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-steamsad-depression-gif-16712269959651793493

[real orchid]

they need the easier version

[manic fulcrum]

I just wish people would stop comparing the two games. Cause they both wanna be two completely different things

[nimble raven]

the isles issues will eventually be improved upon and fixed (hopefully ), PoT's issues are the literal foundation its based on

[mild wagon]

ehhh not really

[real orchid]

they cannot stop because they assume dino game means they're the same

[manic fulcrum]

Isle is for a more hardcore and pure survival experience (in theory )

POT is a chill sandbox MMO with very little to do with survival

They are not the same

[mild wagon]

PoT is a good game and can be improved upon too, its foundation is only bad if you compare it to the isle(which itself is stupid comparision)

[mossy orchid]

lol this chat section is funny

[coarse nimbus]

Is it? Lol

[subtle girder]

welp. I found a hole. logged out and logged back in and fell through the map lol. sigh

[mossy orchid]

very much so

[coarse nimbus]

True

[nimble raven]

it's supposed to be an MMORPG yet it barely has any characteristics of one, the AI "bosses" are laughable, the quests are pathetic, and the gameplay is just, meh.

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf, I’m prob not playing isle till the crash black holes are fixed

[coarse nimbus]

Why would you log out in the hole 😭

[subtle girder]

there was literally nothing else to do T-T. You cannot climb out

[coarse nimbus]

/unstuck in the chat 😭😭😭😭

[nimble raven]

I mean the game can be pretty at times but idk if its a me issue but when I play PoT everything is grainy and blurry when moving my camera, its really wierd. I tried changing around the AA options but it doesnt really get better

[subtle girder]

I thought I could at least glitch OUT of the hole....and I guess it worked

[subtle girder]

you can do that???

[coarse nimbus]

Yesss 😭😭😭

[subtle girder]

😭

[real orchid]

those only happen in servers with austro, eu3 is fine rn
but i am also waiting for next ht patch so i dont blame you

[nimble raven]

im on EU3 and theres none but theres also like no people

[real orchid]

no people because no austro

[nimble raven]

yes, quite dissapointing

[subtle girder]

well thanks for letting me know. I shall take that info going forward 💔

[mild wagon]

i dont play it so i wont defend it, all i am saying is you can be respectfull about it

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah I figured it was austro related

[real orchid]

atleast kentro is in eu3 tho, so kentro chill time lol

[nimble raven]

I am though..its not a bad game its just got issues lmfao

[coarse nimbus]

You’re very welcome 💕

[nimble raven]

Honestly PoT would be so much fun if they just removed the waypoints and limited packing to certain groups of species, and made it so growth times are set for every species and are reasonable, with quests giving minor buffs.

boom, prioritize actual survival and its peak

[true flicker]

Since I’m gonna give this game a try again, what’s the best/most popular dino for someone wanting group play?

[coarse nimbus]

The growth time in pot official is horrendous i will say

[real orchid]

in evrima or hordetest?

[nimble raven]

because its directly tied to questing for some god awful reason

[true flicker]

I’m not sureeee lol

[manic fulcrum]

Pot just needs to lessen the promoting itself as a survival game. Because it really isn’t leaning into it

They should remove growth honestly. Would make the pot experience much better to fit the chill vibe

[coarse nimbus]

Yeah and that can take hours to do. It takes like 4 hours to grow a conc because of questing

[real orchid]

ok so in evrima it is rex and allo what are the most popular ones
in hordetest it is right now austro

[pine summit]

They also promotes the isle as an realistic game

[true flicker]

ok sounds good, they added an austroraptor mod to PoT recently too. It’s an aquatic feathery dino yeah?

[nimble raven]

yeah and if you die you dont lose much progress so instead of being lenient its just boring and theres barely any set back, oh and you can just become another creature and come back to revenge kill

[coarse nimbus]

Yeah that’s true it’s like a safety net

[vapid pumice]

eh, moreso immersive than realistic

[real orchid]

yes

[lime nexus]

we should put all allo players in a capsule and shoot them into the sun, i think this is a fair opinion

[true flicker]

Officials is definitely weird in that sense. The unofficial server I main, you reset back to an adolescent if you die

[nimble raven]

idk why but it feels like they tweaked the growth time for smaller tiers, beipi takes little to no time to grow now

[rough path]

Hello there, I'm not sure if this is the right channel, but I have created a map overlay that uses the Vulnona map.
I'm currently looking for a couple of testers who are willing to report bugs and maybe test solutions.
It offers a lot of customization and control. Also has auto coord tracking.
The project is open source.

[oblique prism]

Only if we send rex players too

[pine summit]

Its not realistic at all thought, they should stop it asw

[lime nexus]

i can live with that

[nimble raven]

awesomeee, is the size customizable

[oblique prism]

I love Allo but im willing to send both away

[mild wagon]

where do they advise it as realistic?

[oblique geyser]

woah that looks pretty good

[pine summit]

Mostly the isle players and content creators, arent we talking abt that?

[oblique prism]

Just give me Bary so I can hunt little deinos and lazily swim around the map

[red cairn]

are the specs on steam page for evrima or still legacy?

[hoary sage]

They don't lol

[mild wagon]

lmao they were talking about the devs themself they dont advise it as realistic do they?

[true flicker]

And how does one find a group to play with? There doesn’t seem to be a LFG channel unless I’m blind. Since I’m fairly new, it’d be nice to not have to go in completely alone

[cursive rampart]

They don't do that tho

[pine summit]

Oh, ok

[mild wagon]

ik right i am telling this guy

[nimble raven]

people confuse the two alot, they hear "realistic" and think OH why is spino a monster and huge, why is herrera a climber. its science fiction, its like the alien franchise, its immersive but it takes fictional liberties

[hoary sage]

Legacy, but the recommended specs can be used as an ok minimum for evrima*

*for now

[pine summit]

Wdym

[red cairn]

thanks man

[cursive rampart]

Meant don't there, sorry

[hoary sage]

#evrima-na #evrima-eu #evrima-au #evrima-sa are kinda like the LFG channels

[pine summit]

Okk

[true flicker]

Oh okay. Thanks

[cursive rampart]

The only mention of realistic in the Steam page is in future goals

[rough path]

thank you

[nimble raven]

I am S T RO N G

[manic fulcrum]

Dynamic aerial drop ins

[pearl creek]

Ah I remember when they wanted to do that spawn system

[pine summit]

I dont think thats an thing either

[rough path]

cant swallow this big one 😄

[manic fulcrum]

You know I wouldn’t mind the old “dropped down in a cage” Fortnite style spawn system

[coarse nimbus]

I would even put “realistic” in loose terms of the context of it’s supposed to mimic players

[manic fulcrum]

It’s just funny

[nimble raven]

yeah as long as you can make it smaller, there needs to be as little clutter on the screen as possible so

[rough path]

i can show you if the server lets me stream in voice

[pearl creek]

Idk being dropped down in a cage sounds weird and obnoxious lol. I'd rather there be a system similar to JWE where a gate opens and the dino comes out lol, still weird tho

[normal flume]

Imagine if humans got a "Alien Isolation" radar they could use where they could see Dots approaching them on the map

[cursive rampart]

Madagascar box styled spawns

[manic fulcrum]

[pine summit]

Hot take:
Dinosaurs would look way better with lips

[manic fulcrum]

It was a really old fun idea they had

[pine summit]

Most of them

[hoary sage]

That's a cold take

[pine summit]

Why dont they give them lips???

[pearl creek]

Ye I know lol

[hoary sage]

Because they don't want to. Sci fi and all

Also we're getting a bunch of lipped dinos

[nimble raven]

sort of cold, it just doesnt really matter to some people, and others prefer it. me personally it looks good on allo but it'd be cool to see it on something like rex in this game

[pine summit]

Example

[hoary sage]

Bary, austro as the most recent

[vapid laurel]

What if Bary exploded

[normal flume]

Stego without cheeks freak me out

[manic fulcrum]

I think the whole lip debate is entirely up to your personal preference

There are many animals that look good with them, good without them, or with either.

[dusky night]

:nooo:

[nimble raven]

nah legacy stego had a scary face lmfao

[pine summit]

The ones that had the pass to not have lips

[mild wagon]

[normal flume]

Ikr I didn't like it haha

[pine summit]

Since they're semi aquatics

[hoary sage]

What?

[jagged pulsar]

bought the new primal carnage on a whim bc why not, I been meaning to anyways and it's on sale for a dollar rn

[real orchid]

youre thinking about human lips or what

[nimble raven]

im really glad they gave bary lips, it didnt need to have them and it could have easily been like the others where its teeth are exposed but im glad.

[bright rampart]

"global in-game world quest"
What

[normal flume]

Extinction is on sale for a dollar, evolution is the new one

[pearl creek]

There's a new one?

[cursive rampart]

Maybe mass migrations? Who knows

[normal flume]

But I've been playing extinction too it's really fun

[jagged pulsar]

I think they're saying it's funny the two spinosaurs have lips bc spinosaurids are the dinosaurs that have the most excuse to not have them(given the old debate that crocs don't have them bc they're constantly wet from water or smthn)

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah baryonyx is an animal that I think looks fine with lips. The design suites it

When we add lips for the sake of lips it just feels wrong

[pine summit]

Bary and austro are semi aquatics, the idea of ​​them not having lips is more plausible, but Tyrannosaurus Rex??

[normal flume]

Evolution is also fun

[real orchid]

evolution will replace extinction at 3.5 update tho on pc

[nimble raven]

its vague, closest thing we have is migration system and elder system I guess lol

[pearl creek]

All I see is the original Primal Carnage, and Evolution, no others besides old Onslaught

[hoary sage]

It's purely about aesthetic preference

[normal flume]

Ah that's cool I just didn't know

Does that mean the steam game will be replaced?

[rough path]

if you are interested, here is the project source: https://gitlab.com/muhahahahe/vulnona-map-overlay

[real orchid]

i would assume so

[pine summit]

Yes, thats why i dislike it
I would make some design changes, especially for rex.

[normal flume]

Ah okay, I really like it

[nimble raven]

sick 😄

[jagged pulsar]

is evolution on PC not just a free update to extinction?

It's marketed as evolution on Playstation, where it's dropping as a whole game, but evolution on PC is just a remastered update adding in sandbox to extinction is it not?

[manic fulcrum]

Personally I like Rex without lips

[real orchid]

i played it in 2018 last time 💀

[nimble raven]

I dont mind either way tbh

[worn ivy]

really good job that is cool

[manic fulcrum]

& some people do. It is really just personal preference

[normal flume]

You could be right I'm a bit murky on the details myself but I was part of the campaign to hype it up

[vague zinc]

cant wait for every update to be edgy skins and mutations with minor balance in the new primal carnage!!!

[hot sleet]

Very interesting, any one tested this and found any solid information out?

Prime Condition 1 - Visit a Sanctuary. (Found that some do not trigger this prime condition)
2 ????
Prime Condition 3 - Have >0 in A/B/Y. (Repeatedly proven)
4 ????
Prime Condition 5 - Visit Migration Zones. (Number of zones to be visited was different each time)
6 ????
Prime Condition 7 - Do not allow A/B/Y to all reach 0 OR eat something not in your diet. (Repeatedly proven)
Prime Condition 8 - Do not get Muscle Spasms (Repeatedly proven)
Prime Condition 9 - Grow to 95% (Repeatedly proven)
10 ????

This is what I have repeatedly proven so far. Just wondering if any one else has dived into this to match up a prime condition to an actual requirement. I'm aware of the community checklists for prime and I'm sure the remaining are being born from a nest, raising a hatchling to the point it doesn't need its mother/father any more to be fed, maybe having an egg hatch, giving all prime conditions with admin always leaves prime condition 10 not checked.

If any one has any info that they've proven that'd be awesome sauce. 🙂

[rough path]

thank you, if you think its cool help me bugtest 😄

[jagged pulsar]

yeah, just double checked. Evolution is a free update to Extinction on Steam, and it's marketed as Evolution specifically on the playstation.

[normal flume]

Ah okay okay

[agile bramble]

what site is this?

[dark belfry]

The only isle dino I think needs lips is rex, because showing off those teeth makes rex's face look like a stereoptyical 80's nerd with an overbite that could mine diamonds 💀

[narrow wigeon]

hello, is there any talk about adding more colors for the dinos? specifcally colors that are only available through breeding? similar to ark

[hot sleet]

Un released it's the Evora project I've been working on for 3 months or so.

[real orchid]

yes they're working on giving dinos more color palettes and stuff

[vapid pumice]

not through breeding, but youll be able to get palettes on patterns they arent otherwise available on said patterns via nesting

additional palettes are confirmed and coming

[rough path]

6 should be 4 patrol zones, 2 is egged in, 10 is visit mass migration

[agile bramble]

sick it looks amazing

[worn ivy]

you should collab with @rough path look at what he just showed hes been working on

[agile bramble]

i meant to reply to the other dude

[vapid pumice]

so say, omni only has the "green" palette on pattern A, and they nest with a pattern B, pattern B babies could have the green palette

[narrow wigeon]

so these palletes are only obtainable through nesting?

[manic fulcrum]

Ehh it looks fine imo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1346781947887616050/2abf8221094886a3a4dcd9b39f7a80438173a104.png?ex=6a19616e&is=6a180fee&hm=3dbb2a7d326deb466562a92f6ebd9308c511b2ddf805be9be711b487b9800064&

[vapid pumice]

no, youll be able to choose them in the skin creator

but youll be able to combine different palettes with different patterns via nesting

[cursive rampart]

Honestly... That could be an interesting excuse for more nesting to happen

[worn ivy]

oh they confirmed that?

[hot sleet]

10 is not visit mass migration. I have zones pulled from the live running server. 5 is visit migration zones. Repeatedly proven that. Also 4 does not trigger on entering 4 patrol zones it self so I'm guessing they must be "active" to count. 2 is egged in are you sure? I need to test that.

[narrow wigeon]

ah ok thats cool

[worn ivy]

which would help ovi

[agile bramble]

dou lose your prime reqs after crashing

[cursive rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[hot sleet]

I spent 2 months just being able to produce a perfect map. I work alone, but it looks cool what he's doing with the vulnona map. 🙂

[worn ivy]

yeah its completely up to you but your map already looks way cooler then vulnona i think it would be interesting

[dark belfry]

it's definitely up to personal preference, but imo this is just. why does he look like that. I added an edit w/ lips for comparison 😂

[vapid pumice]

for @worn ivy

[rough path]

your map looks great

[hot sleet]

My map already overlays over the game, as well as other things. It's also real time. Shows friends/group/self etc. Group markers and stuff.

[narrow wigeon]

where was this forwarded from? id like more context

[lost ferry]

what is glass bones

[worn ivy]

ohhhhh

[hot sleet]

Cheers, it took a stupid amount of time to get it to produce good results.

[hoary sage]

Click this to go to the message

[vapid pumice]

#isle-discussion message

[pine summit]

Spino's tail(not paddled)
Rex's overbite(not completely remove)
Giga's exposed jaw muscle
Galli's lack of feathers
Omniraptor
Etc..

[worn ivy]

where can we follow the project?

[rough path]

well i might use yours when your project launched 😄

[hot sleet]

I don't have this project documented any where. But Evora will be live soon.

[real orchid]

means you will get bone breaks more likely, it is permanent debuff

[worn ivy]

sweet

[lost ferry]

is it worth getting fracture resist if you have this debuff

[real orchid]

i have no clue lol

[lost ferry]

also how much of a debuff is it

[hot sleet]

You can try, but it'll be water marked and tiled. and you'll still need to manually calibrate it, where as my map is tiled with each tile having a true world coordinate, so the location accuracy is 1:1 not manually calibrated.

[pine summit]

I would personally follow that for giga, with some small changes

[vague zinc]

damn thats cool

[pine summit]

I like it, but its way too bulky and the bigger osteoderms may be weirder?

[leaden cobalt]

I am cool

[rough path]

why would it be water marked? currently im just opening vulnona in a native windows webview im just manipulating a browser window

[pine summit]

In your fan yo

[real orchid]

you are

[hot sleet]

Early early version of the live map. This overlay is the v1 version. See how it moves with your player? There are 123,398 world coordinates/tiles for calibration. You don't enter a coordinate from your game, its linked to the evora server and knows where you are.

[leaden cobalt]

Hi lizard 🐟

[manic fulcrum]

It’s about angles. The lipped one is perfectly horizontal. The overbite one is at a weird angle https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1363184629506506812/legacy.rex.PNG?ex=6a19ba1e&is=6a18689e&hm=f1f6e6d052028ff4558ddd919ba3b6f9e14d42c656bf31693dd1b818aba2c171&

[lucid urchin]

Rex currently does have a really weird overbite.

[rough path]

oh i see, its a dedicated server map, yeah that doesnt work on others servers anyway

[manic fulcrum]

At the end of the day, it does just come down to your preference

Dons preference is simply just the overbite

[hot sleet]

Well I spent 2 months producing this live map with the quality it has using perspective shot tiles and it was a giga of a job. I'd be annoyed if some one simply "stole it"

[leaden cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/furafic-fark-jurassic-park-blue-dino-dinosaur-blue-dinosaur-gif-19221378

[rough path]

im not stealing im providing a fancy browser so one might say

[hot sleet]

They could take the image and try to manually calibrate it though. Where as mine is literally calibrated from source.

[manic fulcrum]

May have something to do with some posing in animation . Cause previously there were plenty of poses they made where it looked fine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1346781947887616050/2abf8221094886a3a4dcd9b39f7a80438173a104.png?ex=6a19616e&is=6a180fee&hm=3dbb2a7d326deb466562a92f6ebd9308c511b2ddf805be9be711b487b9800064& primarily this one

[lucid urchin]

I do much prefer the Legacy model. The teeth on the Evrima model are bigger, and the snout is slightly shorter.

My personal preference though.

[hot sleet]

I see 🙂 - Yeah I literally wrote a capture/stitch/calibration/livemap system to produce this.

So when the map updates I can reproduce this now easily.

[pine summit]

That seens like an old legacy model thoughr

[lucid urchin]

It is. It's the version I prefer.

[rough path]

still no positioning works, theyd had to do the wiring themself

[livid bay]

ai

[leaden cobalt]

[hot sleet]

Yes indeed. They can only steal the image if they want to stitch something together them selves.

[manic fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1428898699987128440/image-66.png?ex=6a1982dd&is=6a18315d&hm=f33bd10ab2a6776c026b9e0e5577f8dcea8ad918adb04934619b914f35c29ae2& I just find it funny when people use this image for Rex “looking bad” but don’t think to make the angle the same for lipped Rex

[hot sleet]

But calibration code etc they cannot see.

[lucid urchin]

If you've come to ragebait or flamebait, you can stop here and now. Calling this AI is nothing but disrespectful to the people that made it.

[nimble raven]

I wonder why all of evrimas teeth lack any textures

[livid bay]

never see right rex who made

[lucid urchin]

It's an old Legacy model.

You can look up who made it yourself.

[nocturne thicket]

old model bro, literally existed before generative ai we have now

[pine summit]

It makes sense for rex to have lips, people who think otherwise got an solid basis

[rough path]

yeah, i thought you are working on a web map, didnt realize it was part of a server eco system

[hot sleet]

Yeah no, this is not a enter coordinate and see position kind of map.

[lost musk]

Lipped one still looks better if you ask me

[trim elbow]

Lipped Rex looks worse from that angle

[hoary sage]

@livid kindle Check the pinned messages in #evrima-eu to see how to report hackers, locations must be shared with us privately

[hoary sage]

#isle-discussion message

[vapid laurel]

I just want Rex to be fun for both sides, man. Lips, no lips, ghad dyamn.

[coarse nimbus]

Mogging vs 1000 yard stare

[analog turret]

Do we have a better angle to see lipped Rex

[pine summit]

Lipped rex still looks better lol

[vapid pumice]

lipped rex looks like dexter morgan

[mild wagon]

tbf it looks goofy from this side too

[leaden cobalt]

What about gummy lips

[nocturne thicket]

this agenda posting is unreal, one is orthographic cam, one is perspective

[mild wagon]

hmmmmmm lipsssss

[leaden cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/kissfish-gif-9748006068276493810

[analog turret]

Do we have like a side on or 3/4 view of lipped Rex

[midnight spade]

How do I know what servers have prox chat?

[analog turret]

Current Rex looks like it’s chin area is too thin and short so it looks wierd with the overbite

[vapid laurel]

Magy!

[hoary sage]

They usually state it in the server name

[mild wagon]

looksmaxxing rexes

[midnight spade]

Ah Ok. Thanks!

[graceful charm]

nah why is there a bug on ht where it sets you back another LIFE! i entombed my austro and i just relogged and it set me back to my previous,pre entombed austro wth

[void marlin]

I don't think any dinosaur in The Isle needs lips

[pine summit]

Why do i find evrima giga proportions weird? The body shape

[real orchid]

only unofficials have those and they usually do say so in the title

[mild wagon]

it aint a bug, its server rollbacks/restarts

[quiet snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356704920438313153/1385579938932985956/270776.193_-273924.483_21284.038.gif

[harsh current]

more likely to break your bones if you fractured them a certain amount of times

[graceful charm]

why tho? i entombed an austro twice and got set back twice. thats mad😭

[vapid lodge]

My PC is getting very hot lately while playing the game. It didn't happen before, did something change with the game or my PC is getting cooked? Does somebody know? xd

[lilac edge]

TÜRK YOK MU?

[mild wagon]

it be like that, i lost a prime kentro, i think they restart it since they have alot of trackers in ht that would bug out the server if not restarted or something like that

[void marlin]

English only, please.
#rules-and-info

[harsh current]

what card do you have?

[real orchid]

youre not giving info on your pc, your game settings or anything else really

[lucid urchin]

Rule 7. Please only post content in English.

[nimble raven]

same angle as the lipped one btw

[leaden cobalt]

Am I speaking fish or human

[lucid urchin]

He has his moments.

[nimble raven]

idk why its so dark lmfao, I did zero changes

[pine summit]

turn the lights on tho

[void marlin]

I love this ngl