isle-discussion

[leaden cobalt]

I go Solo now

[coarse nimbus]

avoid delta and east, the spawnzones of austro. those have been the most prominent crash loop zones rn

[misty pivot]

why

[wintry bane]

i didnt touch the mouse then i did and it crashes for mee

[wintry bane]

oh ok

[lost musk]

genuinely if you down spawn swamp just kill urself (ur austro) and try again

[wintry bane]

im smack dab lol dabb in the middle of delta

[arctic sluice]

I believe the crash loop is because when you get kicked out of the game without safelogging, your character is still in the game 5 mins. so I haven't tested it but, probably waiting that 5 mins should help

[leaden cobalt]

I feel like I’m gonna love Austro when it fully complete

[coarse nimbus]

Rip you can try and keep logging in and start running out of delta if you can but you'll crash 5-8 times trying

[arctic sluice]

I will love him and fall in love again with deino/beipi when under water vision is in a better state

[leaden cobalt]

The duck

And fish are better

[royal pewter]

where all the ducks living at?

[leaden cobalt]

In my toilet

[misty pivot]

I hope not

[leaden cobalt]

Going around and around

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-toilet-oh-thats-real-nice-oh-that's-real-nice-real-nice-gif-5331308848435053618

[arctic sluice]

server restart in 23 mins. "WHY IS MY DINO GONE?" tornado meme be ready

[lost musk]

i just want to be able to see my austro swim.. and see what im swimming in.. the seaweed, the logs, the dirt, the textures

[coarse nimbus]

the relief as all the austros get wiped and then they'll all spawn back in and keep causing crashes 😂

[arctic sluice]

SAMMMEEEEEE

hiding in the little under water foliage, trying to blend in, watching a deen in the distance slowly loaming overhead

[lost musk]

being able to blend in with the riverbed without an outline ratting out every single living tissue and detail of your body

[leaden cobalt]

Am I living tissue

[wintry bane]

ok so i spawned in just now and just sit there annd didnt touch my mousee only w to move no crash used a controller to look around crash used a mouse to do the same crash try it and see it if happens to yall

[vast oasis]

umm hello?

cannot buck off austro?

[coarse nimbus]

you look pinned

[remote sandal]

you must die to the austroraptor

[vast oasis]

half of the clip im able to move and attack?

[coarse nimbus]

i cant tell bc the video is not playing

[gentle lynx]

Does anyone know why I can use the rexes directional muzzle swing? I can use all other alt attacks and I have manual alt attack on but whenever I hold alt and it rmb it just does the forward facing one no matter where my camera is

[vast oasis]

the name is fitting for the video

[arctic sluice]

chilling with all the crashed austros (at least 3 near me are crashed)

[royal pewter]

where is this

[wheat moth]

Sometimes the hordetest/a new patch messes up your controls. Try clearing your cache and re-configuring them.

[coarse nimbus]

looks like a bug, that's def the pin animation but you're not being pinned

[gentle lynx]

This is on the main branch

Wait im stupid lol

[wheat moth]

I was going to say

[gentle lynx]

Thanks for the help I'll try that next time I'm on

[vast oasis]

nah its not that

[wheat moth]

👍 Good luck.

[lost musk]

id love to see more roots and obstacles underwater in the mangroves, like.. have it be a small tier aquatic biome

[coarse nimbus]

i'd say it's a bug and report it just in case

def weird

[wheat moth]

I'm not sure what to recommend besides a bug report (as Mocha said). Austro is definitely an early release, so it may not even be programmed to be able to be bucked right now.

[lost musk]

same exact skins my friend and i played with.. thats creepy

[stoic flower]

a minmi home

[arctic sluice]

yeah that is the same lol

[misty pivot]

the ever-ominous loon

[coarse nimbus]

loon design would be pretty for austro

[gentle lynx]

Would I just hit reset to default is there is one I can't exactly remember if there is or not?

[lost musk]

[coarse nimbus]

bro

[harsh adder]

hordetest folks, anyone else crashing relentlessly at the island between the northern delta fork?

[coarse nimbus]

with what wings??

[lost musk]

austro would need quetz's wings to fly lmao

[charred viper]

unplayable for me, all of delta. and some other places

[misty pivot]

hope

[vital onyx]

expect this kind of feedback for oviraptor too

[lost musk]

😭

[harsh adder]

damn. i just got 50% on my raptor too, rip

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-gif-20224140

[vital onyx]

if it has feathers clearly it can glide

[wheat moth]

Kind of reminds me of that '3 wolves' meme...

[coarse nimbus]

owl.

[neon elk]

redbulls

[lucid urchin]

I think a more in depth version of that feedback would be something similar to what Velociraptor displays in Prehistoric Planet. It already has the appropriate animation.

Not so much gliding, but slowing down it's fall enough to mitigate any major damage.

[lost musk]

LMAO WAIT YEAH

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-bird-alarm-clock-wake-up-gif-11858070275565777857

[coarse nimbus]

i swear owl lol

[neon elk]

chicken from minecraft

[vital onyx]

just ignore yutyrannus

[zenith jasper]

How do you make the imported skins for Austro work it just resets me back to default lol

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/seagull-screaming-scream-seagull-screaming-meme-gif-18193351

[coarse nimbus]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-gato-orange-fgWkTmhl5nGpBleFmx

[lost musk]

AUSTROO

[wheat moth]

You usually have to dig into the files and delete the config folder, if I remember right...

[floral jackal]

on us12 theres a BRIGHT pink trike. is that normal?

[coarse nimbus]

uhhhhh what?

[cursive rampart]

Oro glide for the win

[coarse nimbus]

pics?

[lucid urchin]

Evrima branch?

[floral jackal]

yes

[lucid urchin]

Send me any other details you have. I'll pass that up.

[lost musk]

not hate but i can already see him complaining when he dies trying to solo a dilo

[zenith jasper]

It’s the imported skins is it not

[coarse nimbus]

oh yeah they couldnt even take on a sub adult carno let alone a dilo lol

[lucid urchin]

Not in Evrima.

[zenith jasper]

I see

Oh yeah US 12 isn’t a horde test serv

[loud jay]

8000 hours on this game, what a life

[lucid urchin]

I'm half way there.

[loud jay]

same

[stoic flower]

im 1000+ hours

[harsh adder]

i was wondering how people have been spawning in with neon skins lol thats wild

[coarse nimbus]

yippee same

[charred viper]

i have 800, i cant imagine even having 2,000. thats so much time

[harsh adder]

im nearly at 1000 hours lol, 910 here

[lost musk]

im almost at 4000

[cold garden]

I'm just wondering if there is any plan on changing the way u see underwater

[stoic flower]

we are dino lovers so its a given

[loud jay]

we are all blessed by the isle

[zenith jasper]

Im at 1,600 but I only play consistently between like every 3 months so if I was a constant player I can see how I’d get into the multi-thousands, but, I just know every dream I have at night would have something to do with the isle

[rancid plaza]

I have 6.1k

[harsh adder]

idk how i havent had an isle dream yet tbh

[charred viper]

i would have way more if the game functioned

[loud jay]

thats kinda crazy

[neon elk]

i get sad from mine

[stoic flower]

i just cant wait for borrowing

[zenith jasper]

When I am in an isle phase i get a dream where I am physically a dinosaur in the isle running from something like at least every 3 nights

[patent bramble]

i have almost 3200h and started playing not even a year and a half ago lol

[zenith jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

[charred viper]

thats insane, i dont have close to that even if i combined my top 5 most played

in the last 4 years

[patent bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[charred viper]

adhd + time issue

[patent bramble]

xdddddd im so cooked

[cursive rampart]

Some of you people are crazy with this game for real

[lost musk]

i still have a dream of beipi releasing and i was playing it on a beach with a penguin skin

that was before beipi released

[trim elbow]

I had a prophetic dream consisting of 3 seconds of Deino swimming in a swamp

That swamp looked almost identical to Isla Spiro's swamp entrance by the mud bath, at or near the shallow spot where you could safely drink from

I had that dream in 2020 or 2021 something like that

But nobody will ever believe me...

[patent bramble]

im just so sad the game is turning to just slop where everything that was fun is getting removed and replaced by boring or insanely op abilities

[trim elbow]

I nailed the animation too

[zenith jasper]

I think my last isle dream i was a baby cera running through hollow logs and swimming through littles streams to escape ?something? In the dark

[leaden cradle]

first time playing rex, and im 60% and, man its boring at first, but so fraeking easy and its insane how easy it is to kill even full grown dibbles once his size... so easy, rex is a joke haha. no wonder everyone plays rex..

[trim elbow]

The skin was fuzzy but the same general shade as Deino's default skin on the back
maybe a bit darker

[harsh adder]

thats actually insane

[neon elk]

you might've nailed the animation because we saw the first versions in 2019!!

[trim elbow]

I do believe so

[lost musk]

i also had this very, very weird dream

dondi was bill cipher in it

[arctic sluice]

https://giphy.com/gifs/editingandlayout-NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y

[harsh adder]

i believe it ive had weird ass prophetic dreams like that before

[harsh adder]

😭 thats hilarious

[cursive rampart]

We'll get pinslop and we'll ADORE it

Such is our Isle fate

[neon elk]

i've only had lore dreams

[zenith jasper]

When I saw Austro had pin I thought it was Austro skinned onto Omni I actually couldn’t believe another carnivore had pin

[somber urchin]

[cursive rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-bill-cipher-bill-cipher-i-know-a-guy-i-think-i-know-a-guy-i-know-a-guy-gif-26770518

[zenith jasper]

They need to start giving herbis pin atp

[harsh adder]

pin for everyone button

[trim elbow]

I've had a dream where I was a baby spino running around a warped version of Isla Spiro...
It happened uh last year I think
I have no idea what Isla Spiro had to do with it, but it was vaguely near that same area as with Deino but closer to the silly swamp channel under the cliffs that lead to the second swamp

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-looking-dog-side-eye-dog-weird-dog-surprised-dog-ashamed-gif-3356125644968981335

[trim elbow]

If my prophecy comes true I believe baby Spino running animation will look fairly locked in

Not awfully though, kind of similar in vibe to juvie Cera

[vapid pumice]

spiro go uhhhhhhhhh brrr maybe ?

[patent bramble]

its not just that its also maia slop, rex fracture slop, omni dmg pounce, cera in general, stego becoming basically useless this ht and my fav dibb getting nerfed with every update until it will be completely unplayable AND LAG CORRECTION??

[trim elbow]

Not sure on the head bobbing but the tail
Mark my words so I can be proven wrong in a year

[pseudo vector]

HT servers wiped again for the 15th billion time???

[lost musk]

basically 2 new mutations were added, one gives u admin commands and the other kicks dondi from the game

dondi kept telling me to press the second mutation and kick him, but a staff member kept warning me not to, so just as i was about to press the admin commands mutation, dondi took control of my cursor and took the kick mutation, which then i apparently stopped playing the isle and snapped into real life, dondi came as bill cipher laughing his ass off maniacally and he haunted me while i ran back home

[trim elbow]

Slop this slop that
How is a slop going to borrow a fry
Slop, are you gonna give it back

[cursive rampart]

I think in the last Isle dream I had I was a Para near a nesting ground with another Para, but they betrayed me for a Rex, Trike, Mammoth mixpack and I had to escape with my life

[lost musk]

mammoth LMAO

i love these isle dreams

[cursive rampart]

Yeah... It wasn't all that normal

[trim elbow]

🥀

[cursive rampart]

It's tough for real

[charred viper]

they think realism is fun but its just not, and thats why we have this pin shi. its so damaging to skill expression, but alas thats how they want it.

[viral shale]

I usually only get dreams about updates releasing

[true solar]

Im surprised no ones made a warriors style book but with dinosaurs.

[lost musk]

whats lag correction

[trim elbow]

Realism is fun when it's not implemented like this

[viral shale]

Maybe if we bother erin hunter enough

[neon elk]

please no

[cursive rampart]

Is warriors the cat thingy?

[charred viper]

this is realistic, its just too realistic.

[patent bramble]

either make the game a real game or go full realism simulation where a stego dies fronm 1 cera headshot lol

[neon elk]

although, i have seen 'graphic novels' of the isle
basically like warriors

[bitter notch]

Does it not get boring

[true solar]

yea but I bet they were all mixpacking like weirdos

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/nermal-trash-trash-can-gif-13097782217384717224

[regal notch]

does eating get boring IRL?

[bitter notch]

Does it

[cursive rampart]

I wonder how many more we'll get

I don't doubt Megalania getting something like it either

[bitter notch]

Oh you said irl

[true solar]

talking like keeping it to each species but yea

[regal notch]

yeh

[cursive rampart]

But like, mostly for a finisher on small things maybe?

[bitter notch]

How many hrs u have then

[lucid urchin]

It's an acquired taste. If someone said to me that they have 4000 hours on something like DOTA 2, it's likely they just enjoy the game as is.

[lost musk]

i dont think its TOO realistic now that the pin thresholds were halved, but the problem is that its not engaging

you dont sweat your ass off trying to pin something, and neither does the victim to try and flee

you just sit back and recline your chair with your bag of popcorn/mental health plushie and watch. that shouldnt be how it works, both parties should be actively fighting for their life for even a chance to escape, and even if it does end up in failure, at least youre dead knowing you tried your best to escape

[regal notch]

I'm only 1.5k for now, but I also didn't start as early as some folks

[trim elbow]

Not really
Rex keeps phasing in and out of things
Omni pins things up to its own weight. At least used to for a long time, idk if that's the case on ht
Deino just 1 taps other Deinos
Allo is tippy toeing at best, cowboy riding at worst

It really isn't hyper realistic, it just kinda sucks

[bitter notch]

So you still like playing the game or you have stopped

[zenith jasper]

Megalania better be able to climb, swim, run, and fly

[cursive rampart]

Finishers are cool tho since you'd already be dead anyways

[regal notch]

I still like playing now lol

[patent bramble]

when theres 2 ppl with like 20 and 200 ping and the game wants to balance out the player with the higher ping so basically if he sees that he hits its in his favor and he gets the hit even tho onb the other persons screen hes very far away (gl understanding whatever i just said xd kinda hard to explain)

[bitter notch]

Ooh

[bitter notch]

Oh ok lol

[lost musk]

was that not always the dealie

[trim elbow]

Never tested that but it sounds silly

[true solar]

Always trying to flee if I know im pinnable or I need to watch my stam/hp its a fight that I hope to end fast & without losing to much hp

[cursive rampart]

I do want to climb as Mega a lot

[oblique stone]

Cerato certainly looks like a PinSlopper thank goodness he isnt.

[trim elbow]

Cerato is worse

[charred viper]

i do think they changed it recently, lag correction isnt nearly as good. so you end up getting hit more

[true solar]

some of the hate on dinos using the one mechanic that garentees food when they are ambush predators makes me eye roll

[zenith jasper]

I love true lizards that swim so it’d be so satisfying to be able to do that as megalania, that’s honestly one on the only reasons I ever played POT as well.

[patent bramble]

that was desync and yea it was bad but but it was just the ping difference lagg correction is server trying to give the highjer ping player a better chance but it just makes everything worse

[lost musk]

cera looks like a pinslopper

[trim elbow]

Love pins dislike the implementation

[zenith jasper]

Why is Austro apparently an ambush predator now

[trim elbow]

It rolls in a bagel and presses down with its legs while erupting your ear drums

[true solar]

it makes sense to pin small things as an austro.

[zenith jasper]

Ambushes fish not whole ahh babies

[lost musk]

anything can be an ambush predator when it relies on hunting stuff that can easily escape

[true solar]

I mean if the baby is small enough I dont see why not at all.

[lost musk]

thats para's job

[true solar]

my man austro cant even carry a taco till its nearly fg so

[trim elbow]

Alright fine give Para pin

[patent bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-evrima-t-rex-rex-diabloceratops-gif-13308571214103444922

[zenith jasper]

I feel like literally every carnivore can pin things smaller than it then?

[oblique stone]

Ive been a Cerato and Austros have been Mistaking Me for one of them X/

[lost musk]

bet

[cursive rampart]

I love Ark's Megalania

That climbing is peak even if it's buggy as all hell

[little whale]

I have never seen a cerato bleed out before

[trim elbow]

ARK's Megalania sure is something

[true solar]

lol I have but its when they are gastro healing & dont pay attention to the bleed its funny

[zenith jasper]

It doesn’t have that ability

[cursive rampart]

Truly

[true solar]

they stand back up ready to bite your face then flop from the bleed

[patent bramble]

if u get a cera to under 5% hp with a steg and it doesnt stop running it actually can bleed out xd

[lost musk]

this clip is interesting.. here the dibble slides with the rex, it doesnt disconnect later in the pin, so why does it disconnect and the rex shoots forward biting the air ingame?

[trim elbow]

Uh yeah it was patched almost immediately. Ceratosaurus is above being bled out

[little whale]

I’ve done that before and it killed me before I was able to kill it (cheating mix pack aftermath)

[trim elbow]

Loved it though, was one of the tames besides the crocs

[little whale]

500 cera buffs

[oblique stone]

Actually it got the Tail but Meh.

[trim elbow]

Deserved

[patent bramble]

no idea also if u try to pin a ai dinosaur on a free admin server u also slide with it and the animation looks very good then u pin a p-layer and its ahh again

[lost musk]

weird

[oblique stone]

The Ai said “Get Gud.”

[misty pivot]

hi

[cursive rampart]

Hello

[oblique stone]

Hello

[lost musk]

olleH

[trim elbow]

Fought 2 big Carnos, a couple sub Deinos and a Teno as Cera today
Not a single corpse in sight I was just violating them
Cera is above excelling in one niche

It would be ludicrous for Cera to just be good at what it's supposed to do

[cursive rampart]

Also how are people feeling about Kentro after the nerf?

[trim elbow]

Cera is above eating rotten food btw only fresh meat

[lost musk]

i wont even bother trying, it already felt stinky and unresponsive to use

[oblique stone]

I wanna Bully Austros for some Reason.

[cursive rampart]

Worst part is that Cera has kind of always been this way, right? It just lost some numbers because Allos and Rexes exist now

[modern timber]

guys where i can see the nerfs?

[lost musk]

mhm

[trim elbow]

Austro fans are annoying
Often
Many of them

[lost musk]

[oblique stone]

The Cerato will do Perfectly.

[lost musk]

i can see im.. not appreciated here...

[modern timber]

did they nerf the rex?

[trim elbow]

To be fair Austro IS cool

Should have its pounce more like Herrera than Omni though

[true solar]

I dont think they changed the scavenger from being able to scavenge

[loud jay]

yeah

[modern timber]

what is the nerf?

[tall hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/picture-us-rollin-picture-us-rolling-ninfa-starra-jason-gif-3788199666362858755

[cursive rampart]

You should do a tier list of isle dinosaurs by their fans

[trim elbow]

Yeah but it would be insulting to even suggest that Cera should ever need to eat rotten meat and bones

[oblique stone]

I got Bored. It did what it did. But just feels like it is Not My Style. (No hate.)

[loud jay]

pin stam cost and dmg I think

[trim elbow]

I will get banned from this server

[lost musk]

i wouldve really preferred pounce be initiated by doing this instead of just another omni rmb jump

sure its still pounce, but its initiation wouldve been more unique at least

[modern timber]

where i can see it

[cursive rampart]

I'm scared now

[trim elbow]

Yes that

[true solar]

its a bigger ptera but, he can swim under water instead of fly imo.

[remote sandal]

No

[willow bone]

yall I have a question, I saw a bright neon dibble

[lost musk]

why not?

[open crypt]

how much weight does prime elder beipi have

[remote sandal]

Looks not good

[true solar]

because they changed ptera to be more ground threatening to babies sooo..

[willow bone]

what that mean

[trim elbow]

Do you hate things that are good

[cursive rampart]

What server are you playing on?

[lost musk]

..why not?

[loud jay]

hmm I dont really know, maybe search if Kouga made a video on youtube

[willow bone]

Official

[cursive rampart]

Lmao

[cursive rampart]

Yes, but which one

[willow bone]

EU 2

[cursive rampart]

HT or Evrima?

[willow bone]

Evrima

[remote sandal]

You talk about the pounce being the same as omnis but then turn austro into a short range herra with pounce

[trim elbow]

Anky fans are surprisingly good, I think
Alternatively, I've blocked the worse ones long ago and now I don't see the reality...

[modern timber]

my rex isnt rexxing

[remote sandal]

I'd rather not, and theres very little point in doing that

[trim elbow]

Why is that a worse fit for Austro than 1:1 Omni pounce

[remote sandal]

Why is it a better fit for austro?

[oblique stone]

Im Excited for Bary. He Better Not let my Hopes Up >:/

[cursive rampart]

That's weird

[willow bone]

So it can only be a cheater right? cus that's not possibke

[cursive rampart]

@lucid urchin May be worth looking into

[lost musk]

i mean, its not really about the pounce itself, having a jump aim would be extremely useful for traversing difficult biomes like mangroves or jumping between things like rocks and debris between water

it'd give it an upper hand in such environments, and would give austro a way to do a jump kick down on swimming targets/fish like the concept art if ic ould aim a jump

[cursive rampart]

Wait you're not an official server admin

[open crypt]

does prime elder beipi get more weight now?

[remote sandal]

You can just give austro a charge jump for this

[cursive rampart]

Uuuuuhhhhh should I ping anyone else?

[lucid urchin]

Send me any details in DMs. I'll pass it up to the server admins.

[true solar]

Lima our hero

[lost musk]

what does a charge jump have to do with aiming?

[true solar]

nuke the neon skins into oblivion.

[remote sandal]

Sorry it didnt have to do with aiming it had to do with the outcome you want from aiming of which you can aim a charge jump

[open crypt]

does prime elder beipi get more weight now?

[charred root]

@lucid urchinwhile you are here is this some kind of new scam thing? or is this just a weird message lol

[open crypt]

bruh

[cursive rampart]

Fair

[lost citrus]

I considered tagging a mod

[true solar]

Yea what weirdo posts a link to a google doc.

about shoes survey.

[oblique stone]

I found a Buncha Dead Juvi Austros Today. The Culprit was an Austro & Canni Austro so Yah.

[lucid urchin]

If it was a scam, it'd likely be in all channels. But don't post random links in here, please. If I see it again, you just won't be here.

[remote sandal]

Eviiiil

[trim elbow]

Fits better for its sleek slender build, glass cannon character with powerful legs

Would certainly be fit better for its environment, that being shoreline. Allowing it to jump over streams, on top of and off of rocks, etc
Adding to that point, would be of much more help dealing with elite fish and small things that are swimming in the water

Importantly, would NOT look horrendous
Other nitpicks

[lost musk]

im so confused

[remote sandal]

Austro isnt really a glass cannon

Fits no better than a normal pounce and potentially chargejump
Can just give it more interesting water or midair attacks for fish

I respect your opinion

[trim elbow]

Okay
Why should it keep 1:1 Omni pounce

[remote sandal]

Did I just say that ?

[trim elbow]

Okay,
What do you suggest it would rather have

[lost musk]

midair attacks for fish are near impossible without an aimed jump that has you land directly on the fish, there are no second chances

try and pounce a beipi once with herrera's aim and once without, theres a big difference, right?

[remote sandal]

I didnt suggest anything it should rather have

[trim elbow]

You didn't, it is a question that I am asking now

[remote sandal]

Weirdest defensive questions I've ever seen

[remote sandal]

I said both water and midair attacks

[trim elbow]

You respected my opinion, I want to know yours

[remote sandal]

You already know mine

[trim elbow]

This?
Missed this if so

Wdym by charge jump, like Hypsi?

[oblique stone]

Gentlemen-Gentlemen! this is Dragging.

[lost musk]

okay but.. that doesnt help if you cant land them does it?

if theres a beipi harassing you and you miss the jump on it, then its gone
but if you could aim the jump it'd be much easier to kill it while its distracted

[remote sandal]

If you cant land the attacks then thats a skill issue

[cursive rampart]

No way someone is actually making an insect survival multiplayer game

[lost musk]

youre on the shore, and something is in the water, its not easy to land a jump exactly onto it

[charred root]

mixswarm inside the fallen oak tree

[remote sandal]

Thats a skill you gotta learn

Its not like jumping is uber inconsistent, unless you're laggy

[lost musk]

so then why isnt herrera jumping onto targets from above a skill you have to learn?

[oblique geyser]

crab when

[remote sandal]

Does it sound like I want that not to be a thing?

[lucid urchin]

#offtopic-discussion

[cursive rampart]

Sorry

[remote sandal]

herra is just at the extremes of accuracy

Judging where you'll hit is a lot harder than a 2 meter forward jump on austro

[misty pivot]

hi

[lost citrus]

hello

[trim elbow]

For something that's supposed to be mostly used on AI and situationally at that (only when the fish is close enough to shore), it's odd to have it require a skill that's based on pressing space at the right time while pressing W

[remote sandal]

Why make catching ai even easier

[trim elbow]

Would potentially incentivise more players leaning towards smaller playables like Austro

[oblique stone]

Goddamn that Bug Survival Game has Better Climbing Physics than Hererra. (No Offense.)

[remote sandal]

This logic is bad

[neon elk]

hi

[remote sandal]

And by bad I mean it would have a bad effect

[lost citrus]

it would have to be, arthropods are fantastic climbers

[remote sandal]

What bug survival game

[trim elbow]

If smaller animals are more relaxed, casual
Bigger animals that you invest more time and effort into are harder,

Why would it have a bad effect?

[lost musk]

i dont know what you want and dont want 😭

i just want to be able to do this

[remote sandal]

Smaller animals are already more relaxed and casual

[remote sandal]

I could aim that without a reticle or a specific jump ability

[oblique stone]

Some Bug Survival Video was Shown.

[lost citrus]

Should omni have something similar?

[remote sandal]

It would likely get something similar

if this was added to austro

[lost musk]

how??

could you jump onto a beipi in that position, potentially a moving one, and get it exactly spot on?

[regal notch]

Hear me out... remove the whole roster, add Bary 👁️ 👄 👁️

[remote sandal]

How?
I look forward, see a beip, jump at them and press rmb

[lost musk]

No, no reason to

omni doesnt have to jump onto fish in the water, or potentially swimming targets, and it doesnt have to traverse environments like mangroves as much as austro would

[oblique stone]

Austro is so Clumsy UnderWater heck it has Hererras Swim.

[remote sandal]

Also it would be just as easy to miss that if they were moving

[regal notch]

@lost citrus take this back ❌ 🫲

[neon elk]

computer, lock onto a target i cannot physically see because they are under a bush

[trim elbow]

Don't see a direct correlation there

Austro needs that for a precise jump from a stationary position
Omniraptor is significantly more dynamic in combat and punches up above its weight more

[lost musk]

its not a pin though, its just one flat damage attack, its all or nothing

you either get the jump spot on or you dont get anything

[remote sandal]

Omni could use the same thing for land though

[trim elbow]

So it'd require skill?

[regal notch]

why are you boo'ing me, I'm right

[remote sandal]

I never said it wouldnt even with that ability

[lost musk]

why's it need it? its way easier to land a pounce on something on land than on water

[remote sandal]

All of what you say as criteria for this ability apply to land creatures aswell

You're just focusing on giving it to austro arbitrarily and for uniqueness

I respect that hustle but its not really worth

Somebody please press enter I'm alone in here

[cursive rampart]

Would it be that much of a hustle given that Herrera already has it tho?

[lost musk]

what no?

how??

to pounce something on land you can just walk up to it and directly press rmb and boom youre on, to pounce something on water its way way harder because you have one shot, you need to get it spot on, and if you calculate your jump a little too far or too short then its all completely over

if omni had to hunt stuff in the water from the shore like austro then sure, but that isnt the case.

[remote sandal]

Didnt mean hustle as in hassle

[remote sandal]

So basically, I can go into game right now and jump and do what you want here just not accurate to the distance that the concept has

Which again could easily be achieved with a simple chargejump

Less accurate given but not everything should be low skill "heres your aiming reticle sir" type gameplay

[lost musk]

austro doesnt need a charge jump, i wouldnt mind but its not as necessary as just an aim

it needs an aim to accurately hit something like that

[rocky gulch]

is austro still athing ?

[wheat moth]

This would be nice. Big jump, feet first, good damage. Did the prey die? No. Is it larger than you? Yes. Latch on for a fixed moment then kick off (you should not be attacking larger animals with this, but you can). It's a fixed time so players that know how long the animation lasts can punish your hubris.

[cursive rampart]

What Austro needs is the Managarmr jump

[vast citrus]

is austro still in ht?

[wheat moth]

More of a thing than bary.

[lost citrus]

it's in the HT right now

[remote sandal]

At this point I've heard everything you have to input on the idea you have and we can just agree to disagree

[oblique geyser]

austro has feathers, no more is needed
already superior

[manic fulcrum]

I think something else to consider is that pounce can already be a buggy mess, now imagine trying to slap water into the equation

[rocky gulch]

i hope he wont remove it

[lost citrus]

if it is causing crashes they probably will

[lost musk]

okay but.. its adapted to hunt like that, its meant to, it shouldnt need that much skill to do a relatively simple action at least concept wise

for something like an omni, or troodon, or a terrestrial jumper that isnt meant to, it CAN, but with more skill, and thats how it should be

[lost musk]

fine i guess, fair

[remote sandal]

Do we even know if austros super pelican dive is properly modeled yet or if it will be

It could very well be exactly the way you propose but just not in game

[lost musk]

meh idk, could just work like herrera's anyways, no need to make any new mechanics for it

[manic fulcrum]

I would like austro to have some sort of beipi style jump for when entering & leaving water

[lost musk]

and just.. without the more height = more damage

flat damage when you jump onto something while holding rmb

[remote sandal]

Nah

[tranquil kettle]

it has it when entering

[manic fulcrum]

It’s a bit awkward having this really mobile swimmer boost itself to the surface and then just stop

Doesn’t need to dolphin dive out of the water, but propelling itself onto land would be enough

[glad ermine]

so does austro have a dive fishing thing like bepi?

[lost musk]

i think it should have a little hop if it jumps up the water, its really frustrating trying to get on surfaces like this

[deep linden]

i think some sort of small exit jump would be nice, even just to get on low level rocks when coming out of the water

[remote sandal]

I can agree that the transition to land is a bit awkward

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah

[rocky gulch]

yeah fr

[deep linden]

exactly what i was talking about yeah, this is a tad annoying lol

[lost musk]

thats true too

swimming so fast up to the surface and then it just.. stops, like it hit a wall lmao

[rocky gulch]

i thought austro will be able to jump up from the water like beipi

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah all I want is just a little hop for when you move to land, just let it keep its momentum when going to land/also for rocks like the clip glazed sent

[deep linden]

not "like beipi" but i'd like something small

[manic fulcrum]

I also wouldn’t mind if austro could have two top swimming animations, the duck one for when it wants to cruise, and more of a propelling one like its underwater when it’s actively swimming to the surface

Kinda silly how it’s boosting itself and then just decides to slow down at the surface

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-slow-down-slow-go-slow-cowboy-gif-25977155

[tranquil rock]

any t-rex's in any server tryna group

[deep linden]

we'll see what they do with it, i'm just happy it's out, i've waited years for austro lol

[remote sandal]

See I actually swam right below the waters surface and it makes my austro look like its doing a butterfly stroke

[vast oasis]

what times to servers restart?

[manic fulcrum]

You can prob get away with it if you are barely touching the surface

[deep linden]

restart times are posted in the pinned messages

[remote sandal]

I guess with an extremely small eject similar to beips it could fix that issue

Get to see the swans butterfly stroke swimming through the rivers

[deep linden]

you can catch clams in mudpools via spearfishing? 😭 omgg

[manic fulcrum]

Pretty much

[rare tide]

🫩 Servers wiped again?

[hazy loom]

WAIT OMG ITS HE REALLY IN

[vast oasis]

why was this pinned

[cinder cave]

Unstuck requests

[vast oasis]

every restart 😐

[hazy loom]

i get to play the bird for an hour atleast

[azure trail]

US 2 working fine

[vast oasis]

👍

[remote sandal]

Terrible choice to play deino huh

[rare tide]

Mhm.

[azure trail]

i pray you dont start crashing 🙏🏻

[vast oasis]

thats why i play true gml chad dino

[old edge]

i deleted config file and havent had any crashes since

[hazy loom]

IM IN TWIN omg its real cries

[cinder cave]

Stanced up

[manic fulcrum]

My austro wishlist is

1: not using/gaining stamina while slow swimming (confirmed)

2: Less kick damage (seems to be bug) but maybe some slight CC

3: faster trot (confirmed)

4: gaining speed earlier in its life (around like 50% it should be at least 40km/h)

5: A few more Dino’s on its diet like Dryo, Ptera & troodon

6: better transitioning for entering/leaving water

7: Deino sense for Austro while sniffing on land (please improve that mechanic first though)

[remote sandal]

My wishlist is a sauropod so we can finally recreate og austro gameplay

[lethal onyx]

Faster swim speed, I wish my boy to be nimble, hydronamic is a must have waste slot right now

[vast oasis]

my addon 8:herrera fights in and out of water possibly maybe even sparring? Like deino and bary.

[azure trail]

potentially a bit more stamina (for how much it wieghs it feels short) and better underwater vision

[remote sandal]

No it isnt smh

[manic fulcrum]

I’m surprised austro didn’t get some sort of sense since it’s a bit more land focused compared to deino or beipi. Would be a nice contrast to deinos sense being water based

[lethal onyx]

Fine slowpoke, I’ll catch you eating my dust

[remote sandal]

water is very incomplete right now so its not anything surprising that it doesnt have this yet

[tall hamlet]

how do u open clams-

[manic fulcrum]

Ehh I think it’s fine, since beipi needs to be able to dip into water and swim away from it

[manic fulcrum]

True, I’m a bit surprised they didn’t do anything with water either

[manic fulcrum]

I significantly doubt bary will have sparring with deino

[manic fulcrum]

I don’t mind it considering A. It has very good mobility on land & in water (with a better trot on the way) and B: it regens stamina very quick

[lethal onyx]

I just wish an aquatic with such a nice land speed could do a little more in water, it’s ironically better to take wader and then sprint along the edge of water lol

Pushing 60 thanks to the buggy wader behaviour

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh that’s fine. Austro should be more of a shallower water guy anyways

[fair notch]

is hordetest still crashing?

[manic fulcrum]

Like a heron

[azure trail]

getting saltwater mutation is very satisfying on austro

[azure trail]

US 2 was working fine for me (tho i havnt gone near west rail so idk)

[hazy loom]

so wait - our diet its in the water but we can barely see under :/

[tall hamlet]

crashed infront of a croc omg

[manic fulcrum]

Water vision should honestly just be reverted to what it used to be

The current version just isn’t good nor fun

[azure trail]

eh i guess if anything i like on your list i do fw :6

[vast oasis]

I wouldnt use the word "sparring" more like this picture of a spino grabbing onto a deino.

[manic fulcrum]

I think that was just a mock up, it isn’t really implicative of anything

[rare tide]

Don't matter, once the server restarts, you'd lose it anyway

[silver solar]

Anyone else having major crashing issues on HT

[azure trail]

i dont wanna ruin the moment but....

[manic fulcrum]

Cerato had one of it grabbing a stego, that went nowhere

[hazy loom]

ok crashed

[tall hamlet]

ik but still i was 2x entombed

[lethal onyx]

.18 water vision was a nice balance

[hazy loom]

that was about 20 minutes or so of no diet - no under water vision , cool dino tho.....

[lethal onyx]

Brown murky, but no black cutoff and black surface you can’t see out from

[tall hamlet]

im like 90% sure frolo made this and it isnt an official dev piece

[azure trail]

was def 2 days ago but i had an enjoyable experience on US 2 today

[hoary sage]

Dondi posted it

[tall hamlet]

oo nice

[vast oasis]

ik but im just using it as an example of how herrera and austro may fight in the water or on land

[tall hamlet]

im just used to renders coming from frolo

[azure trail]

it looks mad sus lmao

[pliant urchin]

Because it's funny and a small meme among the community

Sorry for late reply was at the movies

[tall hamlet]

i lived

[rare tide]

Lucky. I lost my sub Deino to the restart 😔

[vast oasis]

👍

[vast citrus]

yoo WE are all hyped for ava

[vast oasis]

I wouldnt play anything bigger than a stego atm until they fix it

[cursive rampart]

Hell yeah

[formal solstice]

is austro using troodons run animation or am i insane

[vast citrus]

i just love the idea of ava being smaller yet just flatlining everything it sees

[azure trail]

your not alone on that one

[vast citrus]

they’re similar but not the same

[cursive rampart]

I like the idea of it just eating anything and everything pretty much

[vast citrus]

i will be maining ava along with bary and austro

2026 is such an amazing year for playables

[twin badger]

Mmmmm ava as a bone muncher

[cursive rampart]

I'll be maining it until Anky comes along

[uneven quiver]

How heavy do you think Ava would be? 1 ton?

[azure trail]

@formal solstice this seems to the the original running animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM4gvTq2Uwo

[cursive rampart]

Probably around that

Like 700 kg - 1200 kg maybe?

[vast citrus]

probably anywhere between 700kg-1000kg? i could be mistaken but it’s still a decent size

[uneven quiver]

Good estimates

[vast citrus]

prime prob would be anywhere between 1.1-1.5

[cursive rampart]

1.5 tons would be kinda cool

OG Diablo weight before the buffs

[remote sandal]

My guess is 700kg - 1200kg

[manic fulcrum]

I’d personally put Ava at 800kg, then round it out with a 1T Elder

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[idle roost]

I have made it

[twin badger]

You made what?

[tall hamlet]

this my 3rd time crashing

its like the game waits for me to get out of a safe spot to crash, i hopped off a rock and crashed

[idle roost]

In Ontario making my way to San deiago

[twin badger]

Have you tried not crashing?

[tall hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lex-lex-baddies-come-here-come-come-gif-9752288547868023086

[twin badger]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gif-2450101530054484962

[tall hamlet]

yeah you

[stiff horizon]

Do we know if the austro is gonna be able to carry babies on its back or have the polarised vision like in the concept art. Or have those been scrapped?

[coarse nimbus]

Probably just concept nothing more

[manic fulcrum]

Nothings been said on it sadly

[lethal onyx]

On the lighter range I hope, if it’s still planned to be an AI food item as well as playable, like Dryo and Galli

700kg, still too big of a snack item, but it’s better than a enlargened version for Rex pandering

[manic fulcrum]

Just a thought, but maybe it isn’t intended to be free food

[lethal onyx]

Im sure it will be food that fights back, but what is anything as small as that doing to the hungry prime Rexes

[coarse nimbus]

What animal would make good reference for a raptor species

[lethal onyx]

Deinonychus

[tropic trellis]

It’s tragic if so

[coarse nimbus]

That’s not an animal that is alive 😭

[lethal onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1010758231435522111/1441933461114982563/Donutonychus.gif

[tiny burrow]

What server was this? Me and another guy "encountered" a couple tenos earlier, hope that wasnt you 😭

[lethal onyx]

Oh, I see

[coarse nimbus]

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was concept of personality

[tacit socket]

us 7 yo trikes i dont want no problems

[twin badger]

Why would you do this

[coarse nimbus]

Sometimes the best concept is the concept where you show personality in a character

[vapid pumice]

hello friends i just got 4 tattoos

[lethal onyx]

Lobotoraptor

[coarse nimbus]

Wow that’s a lot. One session?

[twin badger]

Why not 400

[vapid pumice]

theyre teeny tattoos on my fingers so it wasnt much :P my friend did em on me when she came over for dinner lmao

for context, im getting little stars on the segments of my fingers

[tropic trellis]

Yeah, but still those abilities would be really cool and unique to have in the game. And austro is way more vulnerable to deino than beipi without that polarised vision

[coarse nimbus]

Ooooh flash tats coolio!

[coarse nimbus]

Yeee they def would. Always a possibility for the future tho! Nothing is set in stone yet

[vapid pumice]

not my picture but its basically this lol

[tropic trellis]

Let’s hope so

[vapid pumice]

she just had to leave before she could do the rest of my fingers unfortunately so i only have 2 done right now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1384659866139758702.webp?size=128&animated=true

[old edge]

stuck in mouth but can still do all attacks

[lethal onyx]

Joyous occasion

[torpid hollow]

The Austro is temporary?

[coarse nimbus]

Redraw my fantasy raptor species or start thumbnails for my lilliensternus painting?

[bold needle]

eta for spino being released

[vapid pumice]

soon ™

[coarse nimbus]

No etas

[hoary sage]

Read rule 10 #rules-and-info

[bold needle]

oopsie

[coarse nimbus]

Lol it’s a pretty common ask tbf

[rich crypt]

I can’t wait for quetz. Hope its after Austro

[wet grotto]

is the crashing because of the storms or something with Epic servers?

[bold needle]

u think it will be after quetz

[cinder cave]

I’m more excited for Robo quetz than actual quetz

[coarse nimbus]

For ht, it’s theorized austro

[vapid pumice]

yeah but thats cause lore

[wet grotto]

ok yea cuz it's crashing and we are almost 75%

[coarse nimbus]

It’s the last on the roster and think it has not moved so far

[rich crypt]

huh

[wet grotto]

like the third or so time now.

[bold needle]

wat roster

[rich crypt]

quetz has so many anims done i have no idea how close it is

[torpid hollow]

the Austro temporary? I've heard rumors about it.

[blissful cypress]

read announcements

[coarse nimbus]

There was a roster of a roadmap of the upcoming playables but it’s inaccurate now

[rich crypt]

theres a lineup?

[bold needle]

u gt a link

[rich crypt]

holy tuff

[wet grotto]

quetz will be fun. but I hope they can patch austro without too much trouble

[clear timber]

@bold needle spino isnt coming for a LONG time.

[cinder cave]

I need lore to survive

I’m starving dondi

[valid walrus]

what about paint

[coarse nimbus]

Most of the updates are on the steam page under news for all the monthly blogs. Lemme find the outdated list for ya tho

[bold needle]

ty

[cinder cave]

It’s on the list of playables entering more active development

[lost musk]

AUSTRO NOOOOO

[cinder cave]

Too busy

[clear timber]

might be on the "list" but it isnt coming for a long time.

[cinder cave]

Entirely unofficial and uninformed rumple guesstimate is second half of next year

[tropic trellis]

I think Para is set to come with Quetz before Spino as well, but that kind of stuff changes all the time. Maybe sometime next year?

[bold needle]

hating js to hate 😭

[crude girder]

My guess is 2027 for spino

[coarse nimbus]

outdated order
Speaking of roster, here’s the current order for some of the upcoming playables:
Tyrannosaurus
Allosaurus
Austroraptor
Kentrosaurus
Baryonyx
Oviraptor
Camarasaurus
Quetzalcoatlus
Parasaurolophus
Spinosaurus

[clear timber]

its reality.

[oak atlas]

why does my maywarebytes keep telling me there's trojen named like theisle_64_bit or somthin

[rich crypt]

aw man quetz aint this year

[vapid pumice]

probably not but tbh, ive waited 9 years for quetz. whats 1 more?

[lost musk]

ive mentioned austro 1778 times in this server so far

1779 times now

[halcyon dove]

what about 1780 times?

[vapid pumice]

are you still doing the O thing? if not, does it continue if/when austro is disabled again?

[rich crypt]

tbh i js want a good azdharchid in a good game

[lost musk]

yes i am

ill do my O of the day now

it doesnt stop till austro is out on evrima

or out on hordetest? yall decide

[vapid pumice]

REAL!!!!

i feel like every game ive played with one is always.. lack luster. the only thing that comes close is Hatze in POT but, ya know, that comes with everything else involving POT

[tropic trellis]

Probably not this year, but hopefully early next year!

[coarse nimbus]

yeaah para bumped up along with some other, but who knows somethings may shift around. from what's been said quetz has been behaving fairly well

[lost musk]

tomorrow is 16x 👉 👈

[rich crypt]

hatz in pot is the most inaccurate and terrible azdharchid so far sadly

[vapid pumice]

personally i consider HT releases to generally be the "release date" so i would do HT

[rich crypt]

i know quetz has SO MANY animations done. Idek how many are left but anim wise its def over 50%

[vapid pumice]

big bird pick thing up, thing die

thats all i want really

[rich crypt]

Bases

[tropic trellis]

Quetz animations look so cool by the way, really great work

[charred root]

People when quetz comes out probably: "wow more grabslop I stood out in the open as a juvi raptor and a quetz grabbed me its so op remove grabs"

[rich crypt]

Lmao

[coarse nimbus]

i think they're on sounding atm and then it would be qa and final adjustments

[rich crypt]

Its sounds are done i believe

They were in a stream a bit ago

[lost musk]

I don’t believe they’ve started programming work yet

[coarse nimbus]

"Quetzalcoatlus is still in development but you can see some of the animations in the media at the end of the post. It may be fragile in comparison to the heaviest on the ground, but it is still exceptionally quick and lethal. It can close the distance between itself and a target, or create distance by striking forward and evading backwards to stay out of biting range of a bigger target."

[brisk tinsel]

i wish the game had actual velociraptors

give me the doom turkey

[coarse nimbus]

yeah seems like it

wedge dev said he was on sounding tho too so the actual development may still be wip

[lost musk]

Quetz may be a glass cannon.. but it’ll never hold up to the REAL GLASS CANNON

OOOWWWAAAAAAHH

[lost musk]

Gliding velociraptor pls

Make it like a velo, with some microraptor glider features

If it can’t glide, it’s not cool

[chilly harbor]

🗣️

[viral shale]

Hatz in pot doesn't feel like you're playing something large and formidable at all tbh
Quetz will change that

[lost musk]

gets soloed by a single deinonychus but can deal with apexes btw

pot hatz is a mess

[viral shale]

Yeah i know. It sucks major butt
Everyone hates it for its wing beat that makes apexes fly 30 feet

[bold needle]

how do you get prime elder

[lost musk]

300kg animal casually hurling a 9 ton beast off a cliff

[sharp pond]

i see this raptor every day

[analog turret]

Seems like the pvp balancing mindset of "if it can't win against apexes people won't play it"

[rustic scarab]

Is Austro supossed to be this small? I thought this was a way bigger dinosaur.

[lost musk]

its taller than cerato

[analog turret]

What sorta size were you expecting?

[lost musk]

austro just needs to start bulking and he'd be a beast

guys lets buy austroraptor a gym subscription and hype him up to go there

[analog turret]

He is tall skinny man

[rustic scarab]

cera is a short king, whats new?

[lost musk]

omni isnt as tall as cera

[analog turret]

I bet if austro stood up too fast it gets dizzy

[coarse nimbus]

im being blinded by light mode that's not even mine

[tidal delta]

I miss hearing stegos 1 calling in the swamps it gave an atmosphere that the game doesn't really have now because most herbis are too scared to broadcast

[gleaming current]

Is there a hoardtesting chat?

[lost musk]

i NEVER broadcast

[halcyon dove]

if a herb broadcasts itll just die lol, there's 80-95% carnivores as the server pop

[cinder cave]

No, just the normal regional channels

[vast citrus]

is it likely that ava will come this year? if i’m not mistaken it’s planned right after bary

[vast oasis]

nah i was solo just growing

[naive pagoda]

Am I the only one who feels like there should be three tiers of Elder? Like Frail Elder, Elder and Prime Elder? Seems odd that you are either Frail or Prime with no middle ground. Maybe Frail is the same, Elder is Prime as it is now and Prime is Prime also but your peak stats never drop off.

[lost musk]

and the herbivores suck so that doesnt help

[plush chasm]

I'm a homosexual

[halcyon dove]

herbs dont suck, they fulfil their purpose of eating grass and dying to feed carnivores easy y diet silly

[cinder cave]

That’s nice buddy, now what are your thoughts on yutyrannus 🎤

[lost musk]

this is very but also quite

[rustic scarab]

thanks for sharing, your trophy is in the mail

[plush chasm]

cool fluffy dinosaur

[vast citrus]

i have a question that needs answered

[cinder cave]

Hell yeah

[cinder cave]

Shoot

[vast citrus]

is it likely that ava will come this year? if i’m not mistaken it’s planned right after bary

[cinder cave]

No etas

[vast citrus]

i thought it was planned after bary though i could be wrong

[plush chasm]

i was trolling my friend asking that question im not act homo

[cinder cave]

Nothing wrong with liking dudes, I’ve done my fair share in my time

[dense vessel]

How's everyone enjoying the new mangroves?

[plush chasm]

yeah i fully support dw

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[plush chasm]

avas coming when you go to a senior home in like 2060

[tidal delta]

I wonder if it would be a good change to make 1 calling 100 times a prime elder objective. Gives an incentive to use it while naturally giving carnis a way to hunt long distance.

[vast citrus]

ava 2026??? 👀👀

[woeful stratus]

are the ht still crashing?

[cinder cave]

Hell no

[vast citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-the-isle-evrima-avaceratops-gif-58401131792518616

[plush chasm]

whats wrong with you

[lost musk]

[tidal delta]

Not a requirement just a way to achieve prime.

[lost musk]

roar
roar
roar
roar
roar
roar
roar 94x

prime

[cinder cave]

Hell no

[woeful stratus]

any ht players?

[plush chasm]

this is why you arent a dev

[lost musk]

you can find better ways to make 1 calling important

like a territory system

[azure trail]

US 2 was working fine for me today

[vital onyx]

this SUPER SECRET prime method is GUARANTEED to get you PRIME ELDER in the ISLAND video game

you must ROAR ten million

[vast citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-evrima-avaceratops-the-isle-gif-7596357524378176825

[vital onyx]

followed by 200,000 views on youtube

no location pls.......

[tidal delta]

No need to be rude about it. I'm just spitballing while I'm growing in a bush.

[old edge]

brother i didnt even say a sever jfc

[cinder cave]

If you want another way for carnivores to find herbivores, wait for defecation and hope some sort of long distance tracking, or a territory system involving smell, don’t encourage animals to actively do things no normal animal would do to achieve stat buffs

[brisk tinsel]

Idea

At night, if too many rexes are near eachother a news copter spawns and lights them up

[lost musk]

wolfquest scent system my beloved

[cinder cave]

Bring back admin strains to deal with mixpacks and megapacks

[brisk tinsel]

admin strain?

[lost musk]

YES YES

100000% YES

[cinder cave]

Admins used to be able to spawn as hypers to split up megapacks and mixpackers way back in the day

[old edge]

not even a sever was said? ....

[vital onyx]

its vague enough for players to go "oh, someone said theres (species) near (location), we might as well check and see if theyre there"

[tidal delta]

Are hackers not a rampant problem anymore? I thought they were already having trouble keeping up with them.

[lost musk]

make a strain troodon that is armored in unbreakable titanium all over its body, with terminal venom that submits you to a slow, agonizing death, no matter what you do, youll die.. slowly and miserably.. theres no escape

whats worse than instant death? the feeling of impending doom and hopelessness.

[old edge]

not like theres more problems on ht right now but okay

[vital onyx]

i can definitely tell you that when ive played carno with a few others, we'd go check the immediate area if we saw a callout

[cinder cave]

Hackers will always be a problem https://youtu.be/cxJwFYkXs20?si=Yn7qIa4vUdCYwWAl

[halcyon dove]

sounds a whole lot like the pin mechanic

[vital onyx]

i miss meat carno

[plush chasm]

god look at this morsel

[vital onyx]

such a beautiful time period this was
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1361187973693177986/carnogametrailexperience_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=6a151996&is=6a13c816&hm=0de50aefd370155c55b3a0f1715fe7485d969412c9b1970dcc7baebdc8ad1e36&

[lost musk]

nahh

pin mechanic is faster and youre locked into your place as you die in seconds

this venom lasts a while.. heck up to half an hour or even more.

you spend your last few minutes admiring your progress, crying in despair, and saying your goodbyes, as youre awaiting the ever coming doom.. its much sadder.. much more depressing

[cinder cave]

I’m not saying admins should be required to break up mixpacks or megapacks as a rule, or that mixpacks or megapacks would be against the rules, I just think admins going after players who don’t play fair but don’t cheat would be cool

[lost musk]

and much more annoying

seeing your health just.. go down.. and down.. and down... and down.. so slowly, its almost not even noticeable

[vital onyx]

personally i think it would be cool if megalania

[lost musk]

that feeling of hopelessness.. you know your death is coming, but theres nothing you can do about it.. that feeling is depressing

[cinder cave]

Throw the lizard

[glacial panther]

im sure hacker really really loved and appreciated your meat carno skin :)

[main star]

Are Austros gonna be able to like glide a lil to avoid a lot of fall damage or nahhh

[cinder cave]

I don’t see why they would

[main star]

The lil feathers, or are they too small to be able to

[vital onyx]

damn i was right again
#isle-discussion message

[main star]

This guy gets it

[vital onyx]

people see feathers -> it must be able to glide

its such an unusual phenomenon

[main star]

Welpp sorry didn’t rlly know it slowed down ur fall

[vital onyx]

youre fine, man, im just pointing out a wierd

oop bot

[glacial panther]

penguins can glide dont you know

MODS KILL
KILL MODS KILL

SLOWMODE SLOWS ME DOWN

owl the bot is spreading into other channels!!1

[glacial panther]

#isle-fan-art go kill

This slowmode makes me slow.

Crazy how it works

[gleaming current]

I can’t seem to get this custom skin thing to work on hordetest, I enter the code and it comes up as the custom colour, but when I enter the game I’m the default colours

[vital onyx]

think i got em all

[vital onyx]

yeah its just a wierd thing that people see feathered animals and go "maybe it should glide"

like hypsi, oviraptor, austro

[lost musk]

notice how ovi was the only one to get its full name mentioned

[old edge]

if it has deep blacks, it usually defaults back to default skin

[gleaming current]

The one I’m trying to do is various shades of green, maybe that’s got the same issue

[vital onyx]

big bird.........

[sharp pond]

i can glide irl

[old edge]

could be im not sure blacks and reds for me dont work but i could be missing something

[lost musk]

kouga thinks the bleed damage kills instantly and not raw damage

they dont know that the kick is a 3 hit attack 💔

[gleaming current]

Yeah I wonder if I’m doing it wrong too, I’ve tried pasting it and going right in, and also pasting it and saving then going in. Only tried with female though maybe male will work

[main star]

Why is Astro kick so strong against other austros

[hybrid dagger]

Cuz it does big damage and austro isn't very tanky

[lost musk]

also ai cant even bleed out

kouga ur better than this

[sharp pond]

@spare tinsel

[harsh adder]

is the crashing when going into certain areas just random in HT? being in delta sanc is insta crash since entering it and it wasnt like that earlier today as the same dino 😭

[hybrid dagger]

I will say, it sucks a tiny bit that austro's speed gain is linear. Part of this is because people on HT are... special... but if a canni austro sees a juvi or sub, you're dead because you can't run away

[lost musk]

yeahh im hoping it gets more speed faster as it grows

[lucid urchin]

I really think Kouga should wait until Austro is out of HT before videos like these.

[sturdy trout]

how has peoples experience between beipi and austro gone this weekend?

[azure trail]

can someone send me a screenshot of that massive rock with a tunnel going through it on the isles beach?

[lucid urchin]

Creates a false image for new dinosaurs before changes are made.

[lost musk]

that too

[harsh adder]

?

[azure trail]

on the beach

[old edge]

the games doing that its self anyway

[harsh adder]

ah my bad thought it was, sorry lol

[sturdy trout]

you thinking of the natural archway from spiro? i think one exists along the northern coastline east of water access

[hybrid dagger]

Beipi aggro'd my FG austro yesterday xP Ran out of the water to try and kill me. I ignored it. It tried again, I ignored it again. Third time I just pinned and ate it 😁

[azure trail]

idk i thought i saw it on gateway not long ago

i want a screenshot for reference thats all

[hybrid dagger]

There's one on the beach near Water Access, I don't have a pic rn though

[old edge]

idk what you mean by "what" but the whole game is EA, its all subject to change. should no content creators make any videos untill its full release?

[lucid urchin]

What I'm referring to is that already aforementioned changes that will happen to Austro.

[twin badger]

I read EA and im wondering how the gaming company has anything to do with the isle. Then I remember

[old edge]

theres not enough towers to climb to unlock the map for it to be that EA xD

[old edge]

i get that but even those changes could be less then what people think, and is subject to change

[coarse nimbus]

Most of what’s in live branch currently is pretty locked down. Adjustments may be made in the future, but we’d be informed about about it prior to the change made in the game

[lost musk]

austro deals triple the damage it should be right now

making a video on a playable that was made available as a weekend treat before being actually released isnt the best idea

[true solar]

I hope they find this fix to the super crash that just asks if you want to send a report.

[hybrid dagger]

Is that confirmed? :O Just out of curiosity

[main star]

En

[lost musk]

why would a 240kg animal be dealing 300 damage in a single kick, thats more than allo

[main star]

Dm

[native relic]

is max inherited mutations from an egg currently 3 still?

[true solar]

to be running then no warning no lag just game dies & knowing your body will take damage & can die because when they say your safe if you crash because the game knows & logs you out . But it doesnt know you crashed just like how the rejoin after crash function didnt work most of the time hnnnng

[coarse nimbus]

Believe it’s 4 for prime

[old edge]

he even says in the video there something wrong lmao

[lost musk]

im pretty sure when don gave the kick 100 damage, he didnt put in the fact it was a 3 hit attack and made the 100 for all 3 hits instead of sharing that 100 across the 3

[twin badger]

If your parent are frail then 3, prime then 4 I would believe

[lucid urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/bass-fish-billy-rage-gif-24541531

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-oh-my-god-gif-12767967

[coarse cedar]

austro is cool and all but lowkey could we stop getting absolutely broken weekend builds that hardly function and we have to wait until the weekdays for it to actually be fun

[native relic]

i just hatched a baby as a triple entombed 16 mut prime omni, and it came out with 2 inherited mutations lmao

[coarse cedar]

like id unironcially want to wait 3 more days if it meant i could actually test austro without getting crash looped

[twin badger]

Weird

[old edge]

yeah well its the isle community good luck with that

[lost musk]

tbh im fine if the bleed stays the same lmao

[coarse nimbus]

Save yourself the trouble and wait for a patch i’ve decided it would be better to wait for the patch too after sending in so many crash reports lol

[pliant urchin]

Me when the announcement says austro is broken af and we're only getting it for the weekend

[twin badger]

Maybe 2 of your mutations/partners couldn't be passed down and thats why your offspring has only 2

[gleaming current]

I’m happy with it! I know it’s bugged in some places but I’m having a lot of fun with it

[coarse cedar]

trust me twin i tried it earlier this morning and havent touched the game again, im saving my sanity

[nimble raven]

I havent opened the game cuz of the crashes lol, have they taken austro out yet or nah

[coarse nimbus]

Well in all consideration i dont think server breaking crashes were a part of the equation

Broken playable was agreed on tho lol

[native relic]

thats fair too, my mate was frail too so that might have an effect. thank you all for your help

[gleaming current]

Curiously I haven’t had any crashes

[coarse cedar]

i dont mind if the playable is broken its just the crashing and progress wiping that made me stop caring

[coarse nimbus]

Yeahhh

[pliant urchin]

Don't think so, we'll know for sure when everyone in chat is asking where austro went

[lost musk]

thats what i said.. till they targetted me too.

friend, im afraid you just got yourself a ticket to crashy misery and agony by saying them few words.

[nimble raven]

Lmao true

[gleaming current]

Jinxed myself haha

[nimble raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292345890564083773/1489313196635324507/speed.webp

[coarse nimbus]

Certain zones are more prominent

[pliant urchin]

Maybe not the austro equation but definitely the stress test equation

[vapid pumice]

the horde test is experiencing what it means to be tested by a horde 🧟

[gleaming current]

That’ll explain why I haven’t had any, I kind of just hang around the same spot.

I should get around to exploring the mangroves, haven’t been there yet

[coarse nimbus]

Yeaaah the overall equation. It’s bound, most of the bugs dont bother me that much but traveling around with my carno hitting the worst spots where i cant do anything just really sucks for the moment

[pliant urchin]

#1 rule of horde test branch
In horde test you don't stress test, test stress you

[pliant urchin]

Definitely

[coarse nimbus]

I have never been more stressed 😂

[lost musk]

yall CLEARLY werent there for update 6.5 stress test

worst experience EVER.

[twin badger]

So real, I expect some things to be crazy when I would be playing a branch where it can break at any time

[coarse nimbus]

I personally havent found too many issues there. I’ve had crashes in east, delta and redwoods (albeit once) so far

[lost musk]

only like 2 servers, 500 people trying so squeeze in, INCOMPREHENDABLE AMOUNTS OF RUBBERBANDING

[twin badger]

https://tenor.com/view/ring-gif-22185732

[coarse nimbus]

Wasnt it closed at the time? I cant recall

[tidal patio]

quick question... what does this mean? i've never seen this one before.. i'm guessing it's a predator in the area?

[pliant urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-stressed-cat-banana-cat-gif-15455068164842202481

[sharp pond]

the meat chunk?

[tidal patio]

the eyes lookin ovals, my bad

[coarse nimbus]

I wasnt around much for 6.5 too i think i was on my isle hiatus

[pliant urchin]

Meat not on your diet

[nimble raven]

Holy hell thats a lot of diet..

[vapid pumice]

ive crashed 3 times in my 2 austro growths

once at RD when i first spawned as my first austro, once at NE lake after nesting in cannibals w/ smifoff, and once at east pond while i was hunting the local austro population as my canni austro

[sharp pond]

its a patrol zone, think of it like a migration zone for your group instead of your species

[pliant urchin]

Patrol zone, like a mini migration for you

[vapid pumice]

do you mean the two eyes?

oh nvm im stupid

[twin badger]

Patrol zone, big food for herbis

[tidal patio]

ah, ok. ty ty ^-^

[vapid pumice]

ive actually found decent luck visiting PZs as a carni lately

or atleast in the vicinity of PZs on my compass

[sturdy trout]

beipi definately has the upper hand against austro in water

[latent thicket]

Has anyone else been DCing more in the recent HT

[coarse cedar]

but austro is looking really cool
would like it so we can actually see under the goddamn water and the trot is painfully slow so im hoping those issues are resolved

[sturdy trout]

significant speed advantage and much more agile in water

[coarse nimbus]

In time they will. And in time i shall continue my slaughter mwahahaaaa

[coarse cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-austroraptor-evrima-the-isle-gif-13614323030079863274

[gleaming current]

I miss the kookaburra noises haha

[edgy flume]

what is this an animation for?

[coarse cedar]

austroraptor

[gleaming current]

I haven’t seen it in game yet, the anim

[vapid pumice]

probably just an extra spice animation for its idle

[blissful cypress]

maybe idle animation

[edgy flume]

interesting :)))

[vapid pumice]

the trot is already confirmed to be changed in a future build, current trot is literally just walk but sped up

[coarse cedar]

aight thank god, now they need to fix the water 😭

[nimble raven]

Idle animations. Im assuming they are planning on adding all of them soon because we still dont have them yet in the HT lol

[tame sierra]

So is austro gone? Or he is still in ht?

[blissful cypress]

still

[nimble raven]

In

[vapid pumice]

prepare yourself for the austroraptor to take leave...

[nimble raven]

Its like 1 am on a monday for me

Ima go sleep now. Maybe when i wake up it will be gone. And the murder demon chicken cant hurt me anymore

[sturdy trout]

austroraptor is just a horrid dream, it will all be over soon

hopefully the random crashes with it

[blissful cypress]

will it

[sturdy trout]

so far my thoughts on austro are, it looks cool and i like bowling them over as galli, i hate it has a pin and its current damage values are wack

[slate orchid]

is HT really laggy for anyone else?

[blissful cypress]

yeah i agree, everyone is seeing this as a second omni, and its taking a path it should never go to

[median temple]

Finding HT kinda unplayable right now, crashing near everytime I jump in and if it doesnt I get about 5 mins then it crashes

[sturdy trout]

i thought galli would have a hard time vs a group of austros, but so far my experience has been them impotently pouncing me while i kick all their friends to death cause your kicks lay them out

[blissful cypress]

why would austro attack galli, man AUSTRO IS BEING PLAYED WRONG RAHHHH

[sturdy trout]

their alt attack is nasty though and a prime austro can bleed you out in a face tank if you dont sit immediately after a fight, prime austros are immune to your kick stuns but you will out damage them in a kicking contest to the death

galli kicks faster

[vapid pumice]

99% sure the kick is bugged

[feral sand]

Austro should really have Pteranodon and Herrera as Diet too

[median temple]

Yeah I know right, stop hunting small game like Gali and go kill some rexes guys!

[blissful cypress]

i dont think thats supposed to be like this tho, i 1 shotted a dilo with a single kick to the face, and died from bleed

[blissful cypress]

i meant the opposite 😭

[median temple]

My amateur rage bait go! xD

[slate orchid]

any idea if the lag is gonna get fixed or no?

[sturdy trout]

lost a 340kg carno to one alt kick, definately some wack values for something so unfit for fighting

[coarse nimbus]

Oh

[blissful cypress]

its a bug

100%

[coarse nimbus]

Well damn

[blissful cypress]

if ur talking performance wise, im not lagging btw

[coarse nimbus]

Im going to have to be violent with the headbutts lol

[analog turret]

Austro is good vibe animal

[median temple]

Anyone tested if Biepi stands any kind of chance against Austro?

[analog turret]

Big enough that growing it feels satisfying

[sturdy trout]

my take away from this, if you really want to be a goose on the loose, austros are prime bully targets cause 9/10 they will faceplant after the first kick

[lucid urchin]

Agreed. Once trot speed is fixed, Austro will probably be my main for a chill-out Carnivore.

[analog turret]

I wouldn’t worry about this until we have Austro proper

[median temple]

fair enough

[analog turret]

Same here

[sturdy trout]

my recommendation, dont dwell too far inland if their are gallis around

[blissful cypress]

and also being able to regenerate stamina while floating in water, thats such an important thing for austro, at least for me

[slate orchid]

it seems like the lower graphics setting dont do anything for me when i change them

[sturdy trout]

my experience with beipi vs austro is that beipi is far faster and more agile in water, and in an underwater fight the beipi will kick austros butt so long as it can dodge and dive well

cant bear to play anymore hordetest until this crash looping is addressed

[blissful cypress]

cuz also rn, diving in a small lake to escape threat is like a death sentence, u should be able to stay there technically forever unless ur low on food.

[tranquil rock]

i just died as a rex again bro

[neat kindle]

Hi guys, where are the mangroves on the hordetest ?

[tranquil rock]

I died a 950k earlier this morning and 80k just now im losing my mind

[sand abyss]

is austro gone?

[lost musk]

nah it was open

[steel scaffold]

have you tried clearing your config

[slate orchid]

wdym?

[steel scaffold]

If running The Isle, exit the game.
Press the Windows key
Type %localappdata% then press Enter.
Find "TheIsle" folder. Open it.
Open the "Saved" folder.
Delete the "Config" folder. Note: This will reset any of your custom settings to their defaults.
Restart the game. The issues should be fixed.

it will sometimes help

[slate orchid]

was there a graphics update?

[solemn thicket]

im trying to play hordetest and every time i try joining the server it keeps saying "Client disconnected The match you are trying to join is running an incompatible version of the game. Please try upgrading your game version" i switched back to evirma and then back to hordetesting version and restarted my game multiple times but still not working, any guesses?

[mint talon]

Troodon is 70 kg and pounce deals 100 150 damage soooo

[edgy flume]

you for sure joining the servers that say "hordetest"

[solemn thicket]

100% keep trying to join "Official Hordetesting US 1"

[gleaming current]

Where are the mangroves located?

[lost musk]

troodon is 60kg actually

and its kitted with venom to be able to take on prey literally hundreds of times its size
austro is literally the opposite

im fine with austro dealing high damage for its size, but 300 is.. well its not exactly very convenient either. IMO id nerf it to 150 damage and give it some cc

[chilly harbor]

cc 😭 ?

[lost musk]

yes

[chilly harbor]

what would it even stagger

[lost musk]

omnis n dilos

i feel like that makes sense

[vital onyx]

the first thing that came to my mind was austro morphing into kentro's rig/animation when doing a shoulder-bash

[edgy flume]

maybe try any of the other ones?

has anyone had a crash with an incredibly loud noise in your ear before it happened?

[chilly harbor]

dilo is absurd. almost 3x its size. Nothing else is like that. Just run from it

[gleaming current]

Where abouts is the mangroves located? Is it part of swamp now?

[lost musk]

its austro's only defensive tool, and it can only be used while stationary, a kick like that to the face looks like it can definitely stun a dilo, look at that

[solemn thicket]

ive tried all the US servers and a eu server and same thing idk wats going on lol

[slate orchid]

wow bad frames

[real orchid]

Between west rail and south plains, on the beach

[edgy flume]

thats definetly interesting maybe try reverifying game files after installing hordetest

[solemn thicket]

good idea didnt think of that

[gleaming current]

Oh that place! Thanks!

[chilly harbor]

While sure, it's a defensive tool, you're also faster with the ability to swim away.

I don't think austro of all animals should have such a large stagger range. I could see it staggering an omni though.

Sticking around and defending against an animal 3x your size just seems unnecessary

[lost musk]

omni can go up to 660kgs, dilo adult is 700

if it could stagger 700 i dont think its that bad

its literally like 2-3 shot by most things in that size range, being able to stagger them for a little opening to help flee while they recover would be okay imo, it literally cant fight anyways

if it sticks around its dead 100%

might aswell go for a stun n go

[tall hamlet]

can someone send me an austro code that works

[swift drum]

alright im pretty new to the game, how TF so I survive as juvi rex? I tried taking a ai deer and that thing kicked my ass.

[blissful cypress]

im gatekeeping

[tall hamlet]

NO DONT were austro siblings....dm me

[blissful cypress]

stay in sanctuaries, see if u can kill anything there or find corpses

[tall hamlet]

last day before its gone help a girl out

[chilly harbor]

I could see it being 2x its size, so elders staggering an elder omni as well as adult dilo. But 3x stagger range would be pretty nutty tbh. staggering 1t+ animals from such a "small" animal.

[lost musk]

i never said 3x tbf

just something that could stun up to a dilo

if it was 2.5x that seems fair

biggest you can stun as a prime 870, and as an adult you stun up to 600

there arent many things that are within that range as an adult, biggest thing we have closest to 1 ton is dilo, anything else is a juvie/sub midtier which would make reasonable enough sense to be kicked by a fully grown austro as a child

[median temple]

scavenge, frogs, crabs, turtles, etc. You are the tyrant bully of the isle, do as bullies do and only fight things that are smaller than you because secretly you are a weak little b---- on the inside

[lost musk]

step 1, dont start out as rex

[blissful cypress]

real

[lost musk]

stats aside, this is really all i want for austro

make its RMB an aimed jump, literally perfect dino

[wispy pike]

How come I did not get prime when I went to highlands migration zone and the west rail migration zone, never infert and had perfect diet the entire time as a dibble....

[median temple]

yeah would be cool, honestly not a fan of the pounce and it doesnt really seem like the devs were all that interested in its pounce either based on how poorly it performs. Aimed jump kick would be nice

[blissful cypress]

how will it able to see fish tho, which means IT NEEDS A SECOND ABILITY

[median temple]

not enough pz... maybe... idk honestly sometimes the prime gods just decide they hate you

[lost musk]

id love a polarized vision ability while spearfishing or something, or maybe if you scent while pressing RMB

[wispy pike]

i thought it was either pz OR mz...and i did do sanc....rip me i guess

[real maple]

so is bary next??? soon??

[midnight citrus]

Ovi

[median temple]

I never really looked into it, seen a lot of people theorising but kinda dont want to know tbh, if I know for certain then it will feel like a pick 15 flowers to get prime type deal so eh

[misty pivot]

hi

[normal violet]

I've been saying exactly this, but I would make it to only work from land to water

[lost musk]

why?

[median temple]

hi @misty pivot

[median temple]

The austroraptor and possibly oviraptor will be enabled at some point during a future update to this HordeTest for some early hands-on. Oviraptor gets to come before baryonyx for the same reason redwoods came before mangroves. It was simpler and moved faster towards completion. I will accept no oviraptor slander. (Devblog #68)

[normal violet]

Bc it already has bouncing and people would use it to jump over bigger creatures from cliffs and higher points and that's herreras gimmick

[lost musk]

...huh? what are u talking about 😭

[normal violet]

Also it would look weird to see an animal hunting like that

[blissful cypress]

how about also this, when aiming with rmb, u can hold spacebar to increase the jump distance, its like a hypsi charged jump, but the more u charge it the more stamina it consumes

[lost musk]

thatd be a good idea

[blissful cypress]

or not spacebar maybe another button

[lone creek]

servers crash?

[median temple]

near permanently if your talking about the ht, today has been rough

[chilly harbor]

Tbf i assumed you meant adult v adult. Adult Dilo is 2.9x~ the size of adult austro.