isle-discussion

[stone tiger]

Aye Pigeon!

[merry roost]

if youre new to the game (seems like you are) I really would not recommend playing as deino as your starting dino. Try something like cera or galli

[jovial pagoda]

do you guys lose your dino aswell when you log on ht

[dense kestrel]

beipi would be the best if the devs didnt disrespect it so

[oblique stone]

:0

[slow lintel]

which game deer?

[odd osprey]

I tried lots of things

[jovial pagoda]

the isle

[silk iron]

if you're on evrima then you're kinda screwed, just go for other deinos or pray you get a lucky spawn

[stone tiger]

Please suggest me a Dinosaur skin you want me to attempt

[zenith pulsar]

AI dryos maybe.

player dryos are hell to catch

[slow lintel]

hmm the isle

[cursive swallow]

How I feel dolphin jumping out of the water and 3 calling at things on the shore minding their own business

[leaden cobalt]

The isle

[odd osprey]

that alone makes me want to swtich versions, lots of other dinos also need fish

[oblique stone]

I do Not Know I am sorry.

[silk iron]

bleeding out carnos with my beipi pack of 5 😈

[timid jackal]

How can I ensure this? I just installed the HT. So after the last update that came out.

[dense kestrel]

if ur a new player dont , i repeat dont play ht

[odd osprey]

look how screwed i am

[silk iron]

i wouldnt suggest it, hordetest wipes constantly and is very buggy as well as being a wild west with hackers running around and big groups killing anything on sight

[uncut mason]

Fish are still findable just more rare than they should be. Croc is the hardest in the game like seriously

[stone tiger]

I know as a Dilo the hallucinations make even the player Dryos to lose their stamina faster then its 🫀

[cursive swallow]

I'm an enthusiast for hunting deino juvis and subs, personally

[oblique stone]

Oof…yeah he aint making it outa this.

[silk iron]

i had 15 dilos jump me and 3 other dibbles earlier, if i were a new player i would've ragequit and refunded

[stone tiger]

Dryo has a sweet heart 🫀

[dense kestrel]

beipi has so much aura

[silk iron]

carno is more fun due to their bad bleed resist

[stone tiger]

[silk iron]

jumping out the water and chasing a carno on land and swiping at his ankles

[cursive swallow]

Never knew that, neat
But also can't they just run away? LMAO

[silk iron]

the carno will feel your aura and will not know what to do!

[odd osprey]

So no matter dino type you should always run to patrol/migration zones?

[oblique stone]

I do like the balance of Bleed. Blunt Damage. And Environmental Advantages.

[stone tiger]

Please suggest me a Dinosaur skin you want me to replicate

[indigo herald]

Yes

[silk iron]

ceratosaurus from the facts app

[stone tiger]

Picture?

[silk iron]

gettin it now

[past dune]

The Isles when the isle is

[cursive swallow]

If you happen to be playing herrera, prioritize survival
If you can get a patrol zone nearby, do so but not at the cost of your food bar

[silk iron]

actually it looks pretty impossible im giving you a task that cant be completed

[haughty condor]

What is this?

[somber urchin]

makin a map?

[past dune]

Modded Map + Apollo Files map.

[past python]

is the lag fxed in HT?

[silk iron]

i'll change my suggestion to an allosaurus from the facts app

[stone tiger]

I will still try the Cerato

[glossy harbor]

wow

[dense kestrel]

so u did go for the outer ring lol

[lost citrus]

I've heard mixed things, but it was great for me on US1 yesterday

[uncut mason]

Try the Cerato it has the longest scent range and can eat any meat rotten or not

[odd osprey]

i don't understand the message at all

[odd osprey]

tried it,a bit boring

[past dune]

Yeah, it's just too good of a visual concept to ignore.
Plus it has the really nice benefit of making a very natural looking map border.

[odd osprey]

did not know about food agression

[silk iron]

u gotta be feral on cerato, attack everything even if its bigger and scarier, fight everything

[past dune]

Because like... yeah.

[oblique stone]

lol.

[dense kestrel]

its gonna be epic to explore

[silk iron]

its like carnivore pachy but tougher

[uncut mason]

lol then how are you trying croc? That’s a lot of waiting, to grow and for players to come drink

[lost citrus]

ok you've piqued my curiosity, what is this

[oblique stone]

The New Isle.

[odd osprey]

noooooooooooooo

[zinc onyx]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i can finaly type again

[past dune]

bora bora
But more specifically it's an atoll.
It's a ring of coral that forms around sinking volcanos, usually in the south pacific.

[void temple]

how are u starving on every dino at baby in a 400 pop server

[uncut mason]

Eat another croc

[odd osprey]

Dino itself is boring
Also bones provide way too little nutrients

[verbal marten]

Is the horde test server up and worth playing

[dense kestrel]

imagine what the beach could be like when we get the ocean overhaul.....

[past dune]

I'm not gonna wait.

[cursive swallow]

It's just overspecific advice
Herrerasaurus' early game sucks so, so bad, meaning you are always prioritizing the food bar at all costs, most of the time costing you prime elder

[lost citrus]

I see

I'm more curious about your interest in it

[dense kestrel]

soooo ur going for client side?

[past dune]

yyyyup

[odd osprey]

how are you so stinky and ugly

[dense kestrel]

idm actually id happily do that

[lost citrus]

I think herrera just needs a prime revamp, make it less impossible

[void temple]

😭 youve called every dino boring and complained that ur not seeing anyone within a day of playing. have fun tho!!

[silk iron]

the isle!

[past dune]

If there is a custom map/custom UI/model edits/rebalance/reworked mechanics/etc. I really hope all that would be enough to convince players to download a mod client.

[odd osprey]

quote where i said that

[void temple]

boring

[cursive swallow]

Herrera needs a revamp overall imo, or I should say moreso the environments it spawns in need a revamp

[uncut mason]

Leave salty alone

[odd osprey]

I only called 1 dino boring so far, cera

[void temple]

boring

[cursive rampart]

That looks very cool

[lost citrus]

We know mangroves are coming, so swamp is almost certainly gonna get some big changes

Already they've changed how fish spawn too

[dense kestrel]

u should start putting ur ideas out for people to know , best way to build hype

[odd osprey]

both quotes relate to same single dino type lmao

[oblique stone]

Troo & Cerato have been one of my Mains so far until Bary & Kentro.

[void temple]

deino and cera are NOT the same type of dino what???

[uncut mason]

Have you tried a herbivore yet?

[cursive swallow]

That's good to know

[silk iron]

try out pachy if you want to be pure evil and have a good excuse (bonkitus)

[odd osprey]

once, yeah

[placid tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/elio-lizard-button-gif-10528652411096742370

[ancient narwhal]

for prime, do you need to have a perfect diet all the time ?

[uncut mason]

If you manage to grow a stego or trike you can mess people up good

[past dune]

Yeah we'll probably do a marketing push once we can actually start actively developing it. No real sense in trying to market something that doesn't actually exist at the moment.

I might start another discord server for it here pretty soon tho

[silk iron]

YOU ARE EVIL

[oblique stone]

Stego takes Several Hundred Hours.

[odd osprey]

But i don't want to mess up people good, i want to ambush and eat people

[past dune]

The isle player discord servers must multiply.
There must be more.

[uncut mason]

Same thing

[dense kestrel]

ill only be playing if u make beipi 400kg

[uncut mason]

Hey if he’s after the power trip this game makes ya work for it

[placid tapir]

This guy didn’t know that Evrima stegos are carnivores (lol)

[leaden cobalt]

Only the isle will be left standing

[past dune]

I'll do that on the condition I remove 4 other playables.

Troodon must die.
It must burn.
It shall perish.

[still umbra]

Yes but im at work

[silk iron]

i cant wait for. austroraptor so i dont have to fight with 5 fps

[feral shadow]

i agree

[placid tapir]

That’s messed up man

[frigid basalt]

good mods for my shitstar?

[oblique stone]

You dare Touch My Troo.

[dense kestrel]

name ur price

[silk iron]

i can swim with 5 fps freely

[uncut mason]

I think big herbs should be able to eat small tiers

[past dune]

Don't worry, Deino, Ptera, and Hypsi will be joining it in hell.
It will have company.

[oblique stone]

No-

[placid tapir]

No no no
How dare you remove the equalizer known as Troodon.
Troodon is all powerful

[vapid laurel]

I support the idea of omnivores being able to eat any animal small enough to swallow whole

[uncut mason]

Like a horse chomping down on a chicken

[silk iron]

canni beipi when..

[placid tapir]

Trike “accidentally” eats a small hypsi whole

[oblique stone]

Speaking of how does Stego have a bite? :/

[past dune]

Deino and Ptera mainly because map design and being all around problematic playables.

Hypsi and Troodon because I hate them because they don't fit in the ecosystem I'm building, which will be far more player dependent.

[blissful cypress]

austro

[placid tapir]

It uses its mouth silly

[silk iron]

No. no

[uncut mason]

It has a mouth don’t it?

[odd osprey]

bro i barely understand what prime elder is, it is last thing on my list of priorities

[amber raft]

is ping fixed on HT or is it still constantly lagging

[dense kestrel]

the thing is idm all this , aslong as u give me 400kg beipi

[past dune]

Yeah, too powerful, while providing less than nothing to the ecosystem.
They gotta go.

[oblique stone]

Ah ok.

[ancient narwhal]

are you supposed to age painfully slowly after like 75% growth?

[placid tapir]

I will not stand for this slander.
Troodon is best Dino. You cannot change my mind

[uncut mason]

Yes

[past dune]

I will do what I can.
I really want Beipi to have a stronger presence.

[kind forum]

Ew

[ancient narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-tiktok-tiktok-girl-crashout-skywalker-crashout-tiktok-crashout-gif-5857876168607663532

[uncut mason]

More time at peak condition

[oblique stone]

I hate TikTok so Much.

[silk iron]

i saw a flying fish today

[placid tapir]

Someone got giggled one too many times

[ancient narwhal]

true, but i don't have much use for it unfortunately, low pop lol

[vapid laurel]

I like Troodon c:
I do not like Troodons that don't shut up ;-;

[silk iron]

in game, of course, fish dont fly here

[past dune]

[ancient narwhal]

Okay sorry ig?

[uncut mason]

Some do irl

[crude girder]

No you don’t

[dense kestrel]

its in troodon players genes , when i play it i cant contain myself

[oblique stone]

:/

[zinc onyx]

guys what do you think wil be the next set of playables after the list we have rn

[placid tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1429361004277403648/troodonbrickthrow.gif

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-mark-fishbach-confused-what-gif-2070462835371713826

[midnight tundra]

damn the isle looking beautiful rn (ignore the neon skin)

[indigo herald]

hopefully godzilla, mothra and King Gidorah

[daring imp]

qWhy wouldn't you like troodon, it's a free meal

[crude girder]

I hope protoceratops is in it

[uncut mason]

On rare occasion it will rain fish, literally. The eggs were small enough to rise with the steam and hatch in the cloud

[silk iron]

not like this idont think!

[past dune]

Yeah I think Troodon is a neat concept, and not really an issue during normal gameplay, even though fighting them is mind numbingly boring. I often just alt f4 when encountering a troodon swarm lmao- but it doesn't fit my design goals at all.

[zinc onyx]

i realy hope giga and shant

[blissful cypress]

MINMI !!!

[vapid laurel]

McDonald's dinosaur

[placid tapir]

This man don’t know what Troo can do lol

[dense kestrel]

whats trike gonna be like

[ancient narwhal]

coding

[kind forum]

troodon is great it gives me something to play after work without spending several hours just to get to a point where I interact with other players

[uncut mason]

Hahaha reminds me of those fish that can climb

[odd osprey]

I mean did not understand the advice

[cursive rampart]

Troodon scares me

[silk iron]

art imitates life...

[candid relic]

I appreciate the cera that came by and decided to team because of how stupid this situation was.

[past dune]

Cut down to a more manageable size, and have it's food rebalanced alongside every other creature.

[vapid laurel]

Hey

|| ||

[uncut mason]

Nice location at least

[cursive rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-squarepants-s4-scared-gif-12289303551665904897

[candid relic]

12 dilos.

[placid tapir]

That’s just. Sad tbh
Imagine playing a game and then deciding to not engage with other people doing the same thing (I get troo venom is bugged on the main branch but come on. Have some dignity)

[kind forum]

Pachyrhinosaurus

[oblique stone]

Now Thats a lotta Dilo.

[candid relic]

literally dont care

[silk iron]

dilo megapacks are becoming too common, bring out population control

[dense kestrel]

and rex?

[candid relic]

oh wait. my b

[cursive rampart]

What having working venom does to a species

[ancient narwhal]

i hate dilos sm their existence is just pure ragebait

[dense kestrel]

dw austro can handle it

[uncut mason]

Fight hard and fight dirty brother

[oblique stone]

The Rexes wont be able to stop them X/

[candid relic]

just realized you mean im in a good spot. Yeah I was. it was useless. they starved me out

[uncut mason]

Oof

[silk iron]

i had like 15 dilos jump my dibble herd that consisted of 2 subs, 1 prime and one barely sub, hated every moment of it

[past dune]

...
If the creature was fun to fight, I would fight it.
I have the self respect to not want to deal with that.

A lot of the time I end up surviving anyways lol

Imagine playing a game and letting yourself be subjected to a completely unengaging fight just to give 7 or 8 bums who wasted an hour growing a satisfying hunt.

[silk iron]

i saved the prime dibble with my charm (getting him to log out while i distracted them all!!)

[candid relic]

while I love dilo. I feel they made em literally impossible to combat almost.

[uncut mason]

We all take our turns feeding the server

[cursive rampart]

So now that Dilo is back in the picture, should we start venom balance discussion again?

[ancient narwhal]

can they change the way the boars scream, it's like every 3 sec or so lol

[candid relic]

quite literally yes.

[vapid laurel]

Less Terraria Summoner
More Freddy Krueger

For Dilo I mean.

[indigo herald]

just remove clones and give it dot

[silk iron]

dilos venom shouldnt last that long thanks for coming to my talk

[candid relic]

1 hit and it lasted ATLEAST 10 mins

[full trout]

Every time I make a skin with the new skin system when I spawn in it doesn't give my dino the skin idk if I'm doing something wrong or what

[dense kestrel]

okay so to a certain extent i agree with u , but there is quite literally nothing u can do if ur fighting troos rn it becomes a boring possibly 30 minutes of ur life while u watch ur dino slowly die with nothing u can do (this is coming from someone who plays troo frequently)

[placid tapir]

7-8 bums huh.
That’s just wild.
“Self respecting” is not something you should be able to call yourself if you’re straight up quick logging on people.
It’s a survival game, where people can play however they want.
I get choosing to not play but fr

[odd osprey]

I noticed that NPC animals spawn only in forests. Am i right, and if patrol/migration zone is the open then you won't see any npc?

[hallow prism]

Which serv so ik what to avoid xd

[candid relic]

US 1 on HT

[cursive rampart]

It should need to reapply more often for sure

Maybe even hit to get more clone charges (if we count those as staying in)

That way Dilo is forced to interact more into the fight and the clones become more of a mind game as well

[silk iron]

this 100% could've been the same group that wiped out most of my dibble herd LMAO

[oblique stone]

There are Boar in Plains I think. And in forests too yeah. Tacos are Random.

[past dune]

Probably gonna be cut down to 8 tons roughly, but health and balance wise it's gonna be treated more like a standout mid tier than a tier all on it's own yes I'm using tiers, deal with it and again, like all the other playables, food values are gonna be heavily adjusted, but overall the curves will just be flattened.

Oh, it'll also probably have population limits and adjusted growth as well.

[candid relic]

I was with someone and they came out of nowhere. heading to NL

[cursive rampart]

How would Freddy Krueger work?

[kind forum]

If he kills you in the dream he kills you in real life

[odd osprey]

what is difference between patrol and migration?

[dense kestrel]

very nice im loving all these ideas (especially the ones regarding beipi)

[lost musk]

LMAOO i guess someone else suffered the exact same fate

[placid tapir]

It def depends on what you are playing and the situation. But more often than not, the big stuff is all that’s there to hunt anymore.
It definitely isn’t fun with the bugged venom, and there should be more ways to fight them.
But just denying people the chance to play is rough.

[full trout]

Any kentro skins I can use?

[silk iron]

i really hate dilos man

[cursive rampart]

lol

[candid relic]

they made them the worst dino to possibly see.

[silk iron]

wait cwasso cute skin....... like little lettuce

[oblique stone]

The Amount of times I have fallen down cliffs. This speaks for itself X/

[lost musk]

less terraria summoner more terraria cursed flames + brain of confusion

as in it does a DoT for a period of time after each bite, and hallucinations are for the trip distraction factor

[dense kestrel]

its way more rough sitting and watching ur dino u grew die to a horribly unbalanced bugged effect that makes u see nothing , again i see what u are saying

[kind forum]

dilo fluctuating from broken and underperforming to broken and over performing

again

[ancient narwhal]

LMAo the way u looked at them too

[jolly oasis]

i feel like dilo venom should atleast take a second to darken ur screen 😭 makes no sense imo

[lost musk]

same with rain not existing and rain always existing

the way this game loves doing this same pattern ❤️

[silk iron]

i killed my fresh out of sanc kentro because i didnt want to deal with the fully grown dilos patrolling the area lmao they always camp the sanctuaries for some reason

[candid relic]

yep lol

[oblique stone]

Free Food Stuff!

[pearl creek]

I remember watching my fresh spawn juvie teno get mauled by troodons but I couldn't even see my own dino to know where they were or if I was even being attacked in the moment

[candid relic]

YES LITERALLY THIS. they constantly camp the sancs

[dense kestrel]

Hacker , will u get rid of allos pounce

[void temple]

add supreme calamitas to the isle

[silk iron]

i see prime ceras patrolling sanctuaries, close the isle for a bit and come back to prime dilos camping sanctuaries! switch servers, see a different group of ceras patrolling the same DAMN sanctuary!!! GOD

[vapid laurel]

I had an old suggestion for it, was mostly along the lines of the hallucinations (for the most part) leaning more towards being mere distractions with greatly expanded behavior (calls, faking a charge, running away, circling, etc.) and only becoming physically dangerous at maximum venom which, ideally, would require much more effort to reach for Dilo than just "nom nom haha T3 venom"

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/ferat-dooby3d-doobcord-ferat-hax-hacker-voice-gif-15277677641657579317

[past dune]

Yeah, I respect my own time, I have no respect for the troodons time.
It's a survival game where you can do pretty much whatever you want for better or for worse... and I simply choose to not subject myself to that.

Yes, I am quick logging and doing something better with my time. If it'd be literally any other playable, I'd stick around, but troodon is designed in such a way that for my own sanity, it's better to just... not bother. Even dilos are a little bit better because you get the sense that they have the decency to invest their time into something of some significance. Killing them gains you something, and they lose something when they die. Troodons do not have that same investment, so why would I bother investing myself for their enjoyment.

[vapid laurel]

And perhaps more spooky audio and visuals if possible

[past dune]

Omnivore Beipi throwing hands with an Omniraptor is my dream.

[jolly oasis]

yeah i'm definitely guilty of prowling a sanc as a fatty adult but it really does suck to try and grow a herbie and there's just a prime rex casually in sanctuary dude

[silk iron]

i'd prefer sanctuary camping troodons over prime elder ceratos sitting outside of a sanctuary to kill anything that dares to come out smh

[cursive rampart]

Would definitely be more interesting

[past dune]

I would prefer if Sanctuaries didn't exist...

[oblique stone]

I Avoid Sanc. Last time I went I got Eaten by a Cerato so yeah. (I was a Troo.)

[silk iron]

i go through highlands sanctuary to get to west rail and run into more fully grown dinos than babies

[pearl creek]

I don't mind them, tho I wish they were designed a bit differently

[past dune]

Or at the very least, were designed and implemented very differently.

[dense kestrel]

since u seem to be exaggerating the omnivore side of ur beipi would u care to explain what would make it more omnivoroury , also will gali just be turned into a herbivore?

[jolly oasis]

eh i get that, ive gotten used to them

[odd osprey]

what is difference between patrol and migration?

[silk iron]

i'd like the bees to be a bit meaner

[vapid laurel]

Wasps!!!!!!!

[sinful laurel]

Someone please explain how me and my friend were side by side our entire run, we sit for the same time, eat the same things, visit the same places, like the EXACT same things, and he primes and I don’t😑

[worn night]

Especially hl bc of how thicc it be in the middle ugh

[pearl creek]

I could see Galli chasing and eating the new, smaller critter AI and eating them. I could see Beipi chasing and eating a mouse

[jolly oasis]

patrol is for you/your group, mz is for everybody with those diets

[past dune]

I think for the server I'm probably just gonna place them in each zone, but remove the actual sanctuary mechanic, and just treat it as a spawnpoint for players.

[odd osprey]

so patrol spawns npc animals?

[silk iron]

when i get a hl spawn i prefer to just turn around and go to the west rail sanctuary

[jolly oasis]

idk there is a bug w prime rn, if you ever got spasms/infertile / no diet then that would be why

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-beast-vs-thragg-battle-beast-thragg-invincible-comic-gif-256195791317201616

[vapid laurel]

I love Dilo, I just dislike how the whole "Dilo affects the mind" thing kinda fell flat with it just being a Dollar Store summoner character. It's got potential though!

[worn night]

Yes west rail has been the sweet spot for me

[jolly oasis]

oh actually i do not know im sorry, i was thinking from the perspective of a herbivore

[lost musk]

HEY, yall remember the times where NV was busted and nothing could see AT ALL? good times..

[silk iron]

its got decent mushroom spawns, and the mushrooms spawn inside the sanctuary which is nice

[kind forum]

I think most pzs have ai spawns within them or at least around the area

[placid tapir]

The new Ht venom is better. But it still sets a crappy precedent imo
I get how hard it is to kill Troos especially as a trike etc.
but it’s just not a feels good moment.
If combat logging becomes a thing to do specifically against Troodons or other small playables I don’t see that turning out well for the game

[sinful laurel]

I def did not🥲😂

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/gigantic-fist-skeletor-masters-of-the-universe-revelation-summoning-magic-casting-a-spell-gif-22185632

[odd osprey]

why do you play herbis?

[silk iron]

hl sanc is a bit of a mess when it comes to being a sanctuary, it looks nice i guess but it doesnt protect babies from fully grown dinos or give them enough safe food spots

[lost musk]

when night time and nv is too bright its literally better to not use the mechanic for seeing to see

[past dune]

Ability to eat and gain nutrient from corpses, particularly via scavenging corpses that aren't available to larger playables. Also I'm probably gonna keep Galli as an omnivore, but remove the ability to just... spawn food for itself.

Oh, and, grazing has 100% gotta go.

[dense kestrel]

the only reason people are combat logging against troos is because the fog is broken , no one except weirdos would if it allowed us to actually see something

[jolly oasis]

i play everything, i have fun with a lot of playables and it can be fun to play herbie when everyone else is on carni, especially because i find that herbie has more complex kits than carni 🙂‍↕️

[void marlin]

Buff Dryo

[tall hamlet]

whoever thought of the semi-aquatic teno needs to get paid cause thats actually such a great idea

[dense kestrel]

grazing is legitimately the most pointless crutch ability in the isle

[silk iron]

combat logging is always funny to me because what if a fully grown rex shows up and finishes you off instead

[jolly oasis]

i lowkey miss when teno was so common in swamp during spiro

[past dune]

Invalidates any food balancing I would otherwise do lol

[oblique stone]

We will have Minmi.

[silk iron]

combat logging to save urself from troodons and then getting mauled by a rex

[analog turret]

reasons to play herbies

• easy as pie to grow
• generally have a much larger moveset
• people dont get at you for mixing with other herbies (except me I hate you if you do that)
• Maiasaurus

[past dune]

I usually just jump up on a rock and then quick log.
Or if I'm larger, just quick log the second the troodon looks like it'll try and hunt me.

[manic fulcrum]

Maybe a hot take. With how much food is around, grazing should go universally (or at least be a mechanic for hatchlings if their parent dies)

[jolly oasis]

pointless - > you don't starve, and you don't get diets
crutch - > i mean yeah. animals graze irl

[odd osprey]

Both favorites and history never show any servers, is that normal?

[silk iron]

😭

[dense kestrel]

i mean , there may be a overhaul since cama isnt too far away in isle terms (herbi food)

[tall hamlet]

yes but teno

[jolly oasis]

i don't think history is functional and favorites is just buggy imo

[lost musk]

grazing is good for the aesthetic

I'd say make it so each time you fill up on grazing, it becomes less and less satisfactory for your dinosaur each time you do, giving you less and less food till it just doesnt.

and it doesnt reset until your hunger is above 50% or so for a while

[past dune]

A lot of the time I end up surviving, which is always a welcome surprise.

[silk iron]

maiasaurUS? this is very disrespectful, its maiasaura

[dense kestrel]

its pointless because no one uses it unless ur genuinely silly. lol

[void marlin]

Maisaurus

[analog turret]

Yes I love to disrespect my favourite herbivore out of love

[uncut hawk]

Can’t remember but does it look like the usual screen, currently messing with the resolution to fit the whole screen in

[analog turret]

removing grazing for omnivores (and herbivores)

[oblique stone]

Press F11.

[past dune]

I would rather not bend over backwards just to accomodate for an aesthetic, and it giving free food at all just kinda defeats the point of the server.

[silk iron]

u might be the luckiest player ever

[stable oracle]

hey how do i make skin codes to import ?

[void marlin]

Remove Evrima

[oblique stone]

❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌

[dense kestrel]

and as i said no sane minded intelligent person uses it

[uncut hawk]

But other than that, does it look normal? I haven’t played in a long time and my whole thing was all messed up.

[past dune]

One time I was a teno with a friend on Mettas, he stayed in the server after I quick logged, and the troodons just got bored and left. It was awesome.

[void marlin]

I'll take that as a yes

[jolly oasis]

i've grazed all the time when im exploring the map and not following mz or getting patrols, last week i got stuck in aviary and had to graze til my unstuck finally worked lmao 😭 i remember when gateway just released i had nested a bunch of tenos n they had to graze before we could make it to diets or else they'd starve

[placid tapir]

The whole argument of “I spent 8 hours versus your 1 hour so my life is worth more”
doesn’t really make sense to me. What if that person has entombed 2-3 times. (1.5-2 hours each time)
And now has 6 hours invested. And you still wanna make the argument about time?
I get Troo is not fun to fight when you’re big etc.
but the games also not really meant to be fair all the time.
Just cause you’re a trike etc doesn’t mean you get the luxury of choosing how you die etc.
it’s just a shame that the bugged venom got to this level in the first place.
But just quicklogging is only a luxury that the biggest people get.
(Fun fact, 3 Troodons can kill a prime trike in ~2:15 seconds)

[analog turret]

Herbies and omnis have such and insanely easy time finding food, they do not need this

[void marlin]

Btw
Your argument is invalid because a Trike can be entombed too

[silk iron]

removing grazing seems like it'd make travelling for prime on trike or stego 10x harder

[void marlin]

Midzilla

[warm sapphire]

shuddup peer

[jolly oasis]

i don't see why we'd take out grazing when it's already implemented, used and is realistic lmao, it'd be cool if they could chew cud or something but i do see no point in that tbf

[silk iron]

GET OUT OF HERE I DONT LIKE YOu

[timid jackal]

How can I ensure this? I just installed the HT. So after the last update that came out. So actually there shouldn't be any mistakes. Am I really the only one with this problem? As I said, I have installed HT (today) and want to join HT server, which is not possible.

[silk iron]

stop it i dont LIKE it figg 🖐️

[warm sapphire]

😞

[dense kestrel]

send a ss of the server ur trying to join

[void marlin]

Do you like me

[oblique stone]

Meh.

[void marlin]

Rude.

[lost musk]

i think grazing could be cool for a purpose like an occasional supplement like gastroliths or something, what would be the purpose thats up to you to brainstorm but it shouldnt completely GO, it could be used for something other than being a no starvationator

[leaden cobalt]

Fish

[silk iron]

fish

[void marlin]

Fish

[jolly oasis]

fish

[oblique stone]

Fish

[indigo herald]

fish

[lost musk]

pesce

[analog turret]

I have an idea that it'd be a full time diet thing and your nutrient level would be dependant on the quality of the grass you're eating, but that wouldn't be feasible for this game

[silk iron]

oh man im hungry

[brave herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432025103352332432/1463386195911381043/attachment.gif

[timid jackal]

SS? What is an ID like? where can I find these? I'm currently installing Evrima again, I think I still want to play today xD

[silk iron]

im so hungry i could eat a h

[manic fulcrum]

Make grazing a mechanic for hatchlings. For the scenario that their parents die

[placid tapir]

But it doesn’t invalidate the argument at all.
Time invested is not equal to value of life.
If things are all of a sudden more valuable cause of time spent, then why would anyone bother playing small stuff?
Trike, stego, etc all are kinda the man thing to play since allo and Rex are kinda just broken and unbalanced.
It’s just a sad thing to be told, “yeah, I wanna play the game only when it favors me”.
In a hardcore survival game

[past dune]

Troodon is a playable that provides nothing when killed, and is capable of freely killing creatures that are several dozen times larger than itself. It is a parasite on the ecosystem in every sense of the word, regardless of however many times they have entombed, this fact remains. Inherently, a troodon is worth less, yet does far more damage. It is not fun to fight in any situation, it is not worthwhile to engage with at any size unless you are a cannibal troodon. I would much rather die to a Rex crush because that comes with the understanding that the Rex is likely hunting out of necessity, and if it were to die, would provide several tons of food to the world around it.

The Isle is, by absolutely no means, an ecosystem game. It is a sandbox, through and through, which is why a creature like Troodon existing, poses no actual problem overall. But for my server, in which I intend on placing far greater emphasis on the ecosystem and player dependancy and consistency, Troodon absolutely has to go.

[lost musk]

im really glad the new rain droplet effects work without needing to look straight up anymore

[analog turret]

grass quality increases in patches and would decrease from being eaten or trod on, and would increase if left alone

[jolly oasis]

that'd be fire yo, be interesting if ava or something could eat cud while sitting and get a bit of nutrients out of it idk

[indigo herald]

let humans spray herbicides and prevent grass from growing

[silk iron]

i like this idea

[midnight kernel]

Someone had the idea of grazing functioning as a way to slow down diet loss as a reverse gastrolith and i loved that ngl

[dense kestrel]

what? ss means screen shot

[past dune]

"hardcore survival game"

lmao

[jolly oasis]

fuh yeah

[lost musk]

TI isnt a hardcore survival game?

[jolly oasis]

FIRE

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/ratcatcher2-ratcatcher-the-suicide-squad-the-suicide-gif-21002471

[dense kestrel]

with a horribly bugged mechanic .

[urban comet]

Give me a chat box so I can talk to the other person in the que.

[dense kestrel]

1/1 u cant talk to ur self

[indigo herald]

sir that's called notepad

[urban comet]

Nah mate, there is someone there

[analog turret]

Troods may also become a super consistant growth with the new tiny ai animals coming in

[foggy turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-gif-24698856

[lost musk]

now THIS is a good idea

[past dune]

I suppose, by definition, it is one of those, yeah.
But man it is really funny to think of The Isle as "hard" right now.

[analog turret]

as troos one REAL weakness, is that it couldnt kill anything at all while small

[lost musk]

have a flappy ptera minigame

[dense kestrel]

hey so my bad imaginary friends are fine to have

[indigo herald]

until queue is 250/250

[vapid laurel]

I like Hypsi

[lost musk]

popular streamer chat

[silk iron]

hypsi

[leaden cobalt]

I like dryo

[past dune]

Same, do wish it had real feathers tho

[timid jackal]

How did I install evrima again, but I can say exactly what the server I wanted to join is called: Official Server EU 3 Hordetest" I have tried every EU Hordetest server

[indigo herald]

tbf isn't this discord just the queue chatbox lets be for real

[vapid laurel]

I want it to eat honey

[lost musk]

i wish omni was a jp ripoff

[silk iron]

what about. a game of chess in the queue and whoever wins gets to move up a spot

[dense kestrel]

ye idk why thats happening to u , go into betas in steam and select evrima

[lost musk]

LMAO YES

[indigo herald]

tie it to species unlocks

[silk iron]

and if u dont know how to play chess it bans u fom the queue. forever

[void marlin]

I wish Spino was kaiju-sized

[lost musk]

i wish dryo could have a dodge ability

[jolly oasis]

what are u struggling with? i can try to help

[high tusk]

Is there a size difference in the model of a 87.5% prime trike and a 100% prime trike?

[void marlin]

I wish Rex had a pin

[silk iron]

yes impretty sure

[indigo herald]

You must take an IQ test to leave queue, this ensures only the smartest replicants have a chance

[placid tapir]

Forgetting about carnos, raptors, a good cera, Herreras, that can kill Troodon with little repercussions, and diets too.
Troodon is a small glass cannon. It’s meant to be a punch up Dino. But it “doesn’t fit” the ecosystem, yet I never really see more than a handful out there at a time. Most players are too big to be worth hunting, but saying “I at least died because of necessity” from a Rex is kinda one sided.
However you wanna run your server is fine. Idc and wish you the best of luck.
But saying something is less valuable when some people only get that hour- two to play every few nights or on weekends is just kinda demeaning.

[high tusk]

thanks man, cheers

[placid tapir]

Yeah. Which even I’ve complained about and wanted fixed.

[placid tapir]

Is that not what this game is marketed as lol
It’s not just Dino PvP. Because then things might be more “balanced” and fair.

[dense kestrel]

but u surely have to see how that can want to make someone combat log due to their inevitable death that they cant do anything against

[timid jackal]

Yes, I have that now because I still want to gamble today. But I wanted to play Hordetest, not evrima. Now it's Evrima again because I can't find a server in the Hordetest

[odd osprey]

How to find elite fish?

[dense kestrel]

right

[lost citrus]

are you on hordetest?

[void temple]

theyre in hordetest

[manic fulcrum]

I think the concept of troodon is at least interesting. More of a scavenger esc carnivore that feeds on scraps or the smallest of prey, but is lethal enough that they can swarm things and swiftly kill them as a group

Literally just rat swarm

[lost citrus]

but also they don't give deino diet on HT

[analog turret]

troodon also only takes one meal to hit adulthood

[jolly oasis]

with how isle has essentially no real competition i'd call it a "hardcore" survival game, maybe not hardcore exactly cuz how do you even classify something as hardcore survival without it just being blatantly unfun to play

[void marlin]

Is there any difference between Ian and a blackhole

[odd osprey]

Why it is in preferred food in envri

[analog turret]

once we have tiny ai, it will be a consistant pick if it remains to punch up as well as it can

[past dune]

Yep, it sure is demeaning.
It is absolutely less valuable to hunt a Troodon, compared to the scale of hunting it can achieve. There is simply no getting around that.

[lost citrus]

They exist, just hard/impossible to find

[past python]

does anyone know this

[lost musk]

risking my life in the dilo infested sanctuary to 4 call as a baby dryo because its just SO CUTE

[placid tapir]

I do see that.
I get that. But folks have tried combat logging on Troodons since before venom fog.
Most would just sit on a rock or water camp.
I hate the fact it’s bugged. I’d prefer if it was turned off like it was for a period of time

[lost citrus]

I answered you about that like an hour ago

[void marlin]

Because... Deino eats fish?

[oblique stone]

I Remember the Legacy Days. Good Ol Squeaky Toy.

[dense kestrel]

ik they logged b4 hand , but there is a very valid reason that most people are now. ( iget how annoying and frustrating that can be )

[nimble raven]

If they kill you then they have no soul

[midnight kernel]

You cant really combat log on troo anyways if there's more than 3. Youll die before 60 seconds is up

[lost citrus]

#isle-discussion message

[lost musk]

3 juvis pulled up and bit me lol

[timid jackal]

Thanks, I want to play the Hordetest. I've updated it at least five times today because I can't find an official Hordetest server in the Hordetest. "You have the wrong game version" appears as an error message. I have installed and started HT and would like to join the HT server

[analog turret]

I spoke of the insane killing potential of troodon like 2 years ago, and the troodon mafia put me on the list lmao

[void marlin]

I'll eat the person bellow

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-croods-killer-birds-the-croods-killer-birds-gif-18966884

[analog turret]

I am VINDICATED

[odd osprey]

WTF am i seeing

[midnight kernel]

Also speaking as a teno that is 6-0 with no hits from the troos on me while i claw them in the face: yall need to learn to fight

[wheat coral]

Fish

[lost musk]

pouncing makes someone stand up, you cant combat log unless you hard log so you have 5 mins

[void marlin]

Flying fish
It's a bug dw

[jolly oasis]

when you get that message about the wrong game version, it's because you're clicking "official EU 3" and not "Official hordetest EU 3"

[oblique stone]

Ah Yes. This must be your first time. I have encountered this type of fish before. Even on Land.

[odd osprey]

Is this just visual bug, or can you actually not catch them?

[vapid laurel]

Flying fish always return.

[lost citrus]

honestly I would say don't even bother trying to grow deino on evrima

Will probably have better luck on hordetest with the changes to fish

[void marlin]

We love flying fish

[midnight kernel]

3 troos can kill a trike with a full stam bar of pounces in maybe 1:50. So its not worth it lol. Better to just die at that point

[leaden cobalt]

Exactly Ian

[odd osprey]

i do see fuly grown crocs all the time though

[placid tapir]

It’s a shame. It’s a one shot and if you can’t hit it then that sucks ig.
But you and I will just have to agree to disagree here.
No one should hear that their play time is less valuable just cause it takes less time to grow. Most Troodons die 2-3 times before they even get a kill. Even in packs.
Not their fault you chose to play the biggest punching bag in the game

[ancient narwhal]

candy floss

[midnight kernel]

I will say it is rather odd troos can punch up that hard tho and that trike is so poor at defending itself

[void marlin]

I love this

[placid tapir]

I just know that it won’t stop. Especially since it’s been semi confirmed that it works.

[tall hamlet]

i got the best teno skin

[ancient narwhal]

you want the code? lol

[timid jackal]

But I click on the Hordetest official server... I've tried every server named Hordetest. It doesn't work. I always get the same message

[void marlin]

Sir, you're 132 day late.

[past dune]

I mean, the point of the game is roughly a dinosaur sandbox where you can do pretty much whatever you want. The whole "hardcore survival" thing at this point feels more like a marketing gimmick that players use to convince themselves they are good at a challenging game.

Survival isn't much of a hinderance or challenge at all, it's practically a guarantee for every creature aside from Deino. The game isn't really gearing you towards anything, so in the end... it's just kinda pointing you towards PvP as the only real outlet for your time investment. It's a dinosaur PvP game because it doesn't really focus on the survival, not the other way around.

Also, it being geared towards PvP as the game's only real endpoint for investment, does not mean it has to be "fair" PvP, they can absolutely have an asymmetrical balance, and it wouldn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, one way or another.

[wheat coral]

are you on the hordetest branch?

[lost citrus]

not saying it's impossible, but if you are new to deino you will have many hours of suffering, and will probably starve to death

[timid jackal]

sure

[nimble raven]

Apexes legit can just hard log and survive. its not fun or fair for either side but its true

[void marlin]

No thx

[ancient narwhal]

alrighty i'll discard it

[native edge]

Crashing on HT is wild

[timid jackal]

Hordetest branch AND klick on hordetest servers. always same massage...

[void marlin]

First time?

[wheat coral]

Try clearing your config

[tidal haven]

How's hordetest running after the update guys?

[past dune]

Your playable is less valuable because it does not provide when killed, it takes several magnitudes more than it gives. I don't really have anything against the player who chooses to invest their time into it, it's strong, in a mixpack it's a good meta pick... that doesn't bother me. What bothers me, is that it exists at all.

Don't pin things on players when they are simply a result of how the game or the playable is designed.

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[analog turret]

playables having different survival related challanges would be nice...

[past dune]

Dude that's me rn
Workin on 3 hours of sleep

[timid jackal]

I've done that too.

[wheat coral]

I'm unsure then

[void marlin]

Have you tried sleeping while working?

[past dune]

Wait...
You might be onto something.

[merry roost]

Silly birds need to stick to their fish

[lost citrus]

go to bed hacker, jesus

you gonna live to the ripe old age of 43 at this rate

[shrewd sky]

🪿

[jolly oasis]

bruh it's called hordeTEST for a reason 😭😭

[past dune]

Well I had to wake up for Diplomacy, then I tried to go back to sleep but I just kinda laid there like an idiot and couldn't.

So now I'm here.

[placid tapir]

I hope that the game gets more difficult personally.
The idea that all this game has to offer being PvP is just not what I see.

By difficult I mean actually having to work to survive.
No more prime Rex’s that live off of turtles, ai not being there to hand-hold all carnivores.
Herbis actually needing to do things besides bush simulator.
There isn’t much now, but when there is an actual experience to a long grow, then maybe people won’t just play for PvP.

[civic karma]

That’s actually fairly normal lol

[primal birch]

What's the weather like on ht?

[timid jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-movie-max-sigh-gif-16959631228777447330

[void marlin]

Stop working
Play The Isle instead

[shrewd sky]

he thinks once and speaks 2x

[merry roost]

the storms are absolutely awesome

[civic karma]

One more week of school and then sure thing lol

[lost citrus]

That's fair, I just hear that kind of stuff so often from you, you gotta take care of yourself

[oblique stone]

Ive got like a Month and a Week left. Still No Bary. X/

[void marlin]

I still have 1-2 months

[civic karma]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[spare mural]

tf man, everyone mixpacking or what?

[wheat coral]

Only thing I can think of is to check if the isle has an update in your steam queue

[spare mural]

didn't found a single dino that wasn't mixpacking (6 mixpacks already)

[lost citrus]

Ahh yes, Time

The ultimate skill issue

[civic karma]

[indigo herald]

Yeah it’s trash on ht right now lol

[jaunty radish]

this is an odd question but does switching to hordetest branch wipe your evrima dinos on officials? idk why it would but i wanna make sure before I try it

[civic karma]

Old people have the worst skills

[lost citrus]

no they are different servers

[jaunty radish]

okie! I just wasnt sure if switching the branch would cause smth like that or not, thank you!

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/man-40-i-im-a-man-yelling-im40-gif-4097203

[void marlin]

I KNEW IT!!!

[civic karma]

I’ll be 32 in July

[shrewd sky]

[void marlin]

Young ngl

[lost citrus]

I mean I'm not a man

But yeah I am 40

[civic karma]

https://tenor.com/view/millenials-genz-whippersnapper-young-youth-gif-22169223

[void marlin]

Impossible, women aren't real

You're young yoo

[shrewd sky]

The gif said it it's true

[nimble raven]

Troodon is only an "issue" because when the player actually knows how to use it or is in a vc with other people who do too, it can punch up hard. By your logic micropachy shouldnt come to the game, hypsi should be taken out, minmi as well because their too small to contribute to the ecosystem when that isnt the point of their existence. They are supposed to be unique and fun to play with abilities that help with making it fun or to help actually interact with the enviornment. Something like ovi isnt very big but they'll be a pain for anyone wanting to nest and itll be fun for both sides. Even though a pack of troodons kill lets say a teno, they can take it down pretty easily but what if a carno comes in or a utah, its way harder to pounce and are way better equipped to kill them easily so they can bully them off food. They still impact the enviornment its just people get all angry when they die to them because they have no idea how to deter them.
I personally think taking out troodons from your server is stupid and doesnt really make sense. Hell take out ptera, that'd make arguably way more sense lmfao

[void marlin]

So I'm a Flipping Bird?

[oblique stone]

I am 16 so yeah am a Whippersnapper 👍

[lost citrus]

The rare reverse-Hacker wall

[void marlin]

I'm 17b

[civic karma]

SQUEAKER ALERT

[manic fulcrum]

Ok tbf even a skilled trike player is basically helpless to troodon players

[shrewd sky]

(Squint for better quality of the image)

[past dune]

AI will only become more prominent, if anything, that's the point of the game.
The devs, or rather, Don specifically has stated multiple times that the long term goal is to reduce player counts on servers and fill that void with dinosaur AI as the foundation for the ecosystem.

So I'm fairly confident that Rexes sustaining themselves off turtles is fully intentional, at least as things are right now. That might change once we see a full release of Diablo AI for instance, but AI being there as the foundation for carnivores, in the same way that plants are the foundations for herbivores... is almost certainly going to stay.

Player dependency isn't gonna happen man.
I also doubt we are going to see any major guard rails placed on your behavior, because... just look at how each of the game mechanics until this point have been designed. If the goal is to create an open dinosaur sandbox, then forcing players to go and do chores to survive as a means of preventing them from growing in a bush is probably not in the cards either.

Also, an experience to growth will not stop PvP, because that's just not how player psychology works.
Even if that experience is really well implemented, and satisfying to engage with, players will see it as "Okay that was pretty cool, now then, let's go fight." the only thing your hours of investment could ever amount to is using it against other players and measuring it against their hours of investment. That is the most engaging part of the game, and I don't see that changing even if growing had substance.

[lost citrus]

How many whips have you snapped yet today? Better get on it

[mild wagon]

unc

[manic fulcrum]

Ok hacker

[analog turret]

The Troodon mafia has arrived for you

[timid jackal]

nop 🙁

[pearl creek]

I think having PvE focused animals is fine, especially since servers are looking at having more than 200 players atp. Issue is the PvE focused dinos aren't focused on in development so they're not even fun in the PvE side of things right now

[tall hamlet]

right on time

[void marlin]

17 billion years old is not that old

[mild wagon]

i am 16 days old unc go back to birding

[nimble raven]

Troodon is fun to play and the statement of them not contributing to the enviornment or being a parasite is just flat out wrong when stuff like ptera exists lmfao

[leaden cobalt]

I must say that ht is working flawlessly rn

[civic karma]

First time I ever seen a fetus in a game community

[lost citrus]

At least we've got a new model for AI that will learn and change over time, and already I'm finding the galli AI are a bit harder to trap in a corner

idk I'm hoping it gets better and AI aren't entirely free meals

[distant lodge]

The big dinos get all the attention, but the small dinos are where the fun gameplay is at

[mild wagon]

never seen a allo player?

[void marlin]

Brother, may you give me some oats

[merry roost]

Besides the occasional ping spike rollback and the massive skin bug yee

[civic karma]

HA

[cinder cave]

What I played yesterday I didn’t experience any lag spikes

[maiden wolf]

unc im still a microorganism

[merry roost]

I got a few high spikes yesterday evening, group too so not JUST me

[lost citrus]

dude this is like the average age for an isle player

[mild wagon]

explains the warthunder flare

[void marlin]

Y'all are Young

[cinder cave]

I played early afternoon, maybe it’s tied to how long the servers have been up

[maiden wolf]

i play the game

[civic karma]

You’re making me feel ancient then lol

[graceful charm]

Aren’t all herbivores technically PvE

[merry roost]

Very possible. Its been really smooth so far today.

[cinder cave]

I’m like 4 years older than you

[golden nacelle]

Grazing should stay so hypsi can still infinitely spit

[merry roost]

It was also like, spamming storms last evening too. So could be something to do with that

[void marlin]

So you're 17 billion years old too?

[analog turret]

PVE sorely needs work that's for certain

[cinder cave]

+4

[lost citrus]

Don't feel bad, I'm old enough to be the mom of a lot of people here

[void marlin]

17.000.000.004?

[cinder cave]

Ye

[civic karma]

Haha that’s kinda adorable

[analog turret]

but I also fear the playerbase as a whole won't tolerate any mechanics that get in the way of their hours long respawn PVP dinosaur game

[void marlin]

Unc

[brisk nest]

Can i play carno as a food stealer

[merry roost]

People will whine and complain then keep playing anyways dont worry lol

[analog turret]

yes

[void marlin]

Wrong!
You can't be my mom because my mom is 38 years old

[civic karma]

No, you have to pay for your food broke boy lol

[analog turret]

Absolutely, I welcome more PVE content personally

[manic fulcrum]

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, but migrations (with diets by extension) honestly should be the foundation of PVE in The Isle. But they just don’t because outside of getting prime elder the mechanic just isn’t

[brisk nest]

I couldnt even got into the game don't bully me..

[placid tapir]

He said (iirc) that he did want people to be able to look over an entire server and see a flushed out ecosystem, but that doesn’t mean making ai fill the gaps and holes.
I also remember him saying at one point the games on “easy mode”
If the ecosystem needs ai because of people only playing Rex, allo, and the other stuff down the road, then this game will just turn into legacy 2.0 where it’ll just be mixpacks of apex’s, and nothing mid to small tier cause it’s “useless” for PvP
Sandbox means doing whatever you want, sure. But that’s not what this game is supposed to nor going to be at the end of the day.
It’s that now because that what we have. Not everyone plays a Dino game to just fight and kill.

[civic karma]

LMAO sorry

[brisk nest]

Loading assets bug is frying me

[civic karma]

Might have to restart the game and/or PC then

[manic fulcrum]

Because it was a mechanic rushed out the door for gateways release, that has gotten very minimum changes in the past 2 ish years

[midnight tundra]

why tf is unstuck not doing anything

[past dune]

I'm removing Pteranodon, Hypsi, Deinosuchus, and Troodon.

Food values and growth curves will be flattened across the board, larger creatures will require and provide less food, and smaller creatures will require and provide more food relative to the current game. Diets, Migrations, Patrols, Sanctuaries, and Elders will all be reworked or removed. Playables like Beipi, Herrera, Dryo, etc. will all be tuned to be more directly in line with the remaining playables, and the significantly larger creatures will be toned down. The idea behind the server is a player dependent ecosystem, a very heavy focus on hardcore survival, without reliance on AI, and having player interaction be a necessity to survive.

My entire argument is that Troodon is not a problem for The Isle, because in The Isle, the value of each player is completely irrelevant. Player interaction is entirely optional, a Troodon can kill, die, or whatever and it may be rotten, but it's not really a design flaw, for my tastes, I would rather each player actually matter to the world, and with that design goal in mind, Troodon absolutely doesn't fit.

[brisk nest]

it's been 75 hours In game time I'm trying all the stuff I can

[nimble raven]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-read-reading-ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-gif-6625195720948963721

[brisk nest]

75 hours in steam time but couldn't even got into game

[civic karma]

#🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 have you asked here yet?

[past dune]

I reccomend you go back and check out some dev streams from early Evrima development. Because I don't think I could spell it out any clearer than Dondi himself.

[brisk nest]

yep yep

[civic karma]

i dunno then lol

[past dune]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ace-attorney-big-brain-gif-5363889720252618555

[brisk nest]

I just wanted to play carno or allo man 😭

[midnight tundra]

im stuck under this log. unstuck does NOTHING

[civic karma]

(How did that Deino emoji get there, I didn’t even choose it)

[past dune]

ah yep
it happens

[void marlin]

Yay!

[midnight tundra]

do i logout? would that help?

[blissful mesa]

hey sorry if this has been asked alot but is it normal for the 'elite fish" to show up as scraps now?..and not be edible?..having this issue in hordetest

[past dune]

Nah you might just be screwed.
Try it, but it might not work.

[blissful mesa]

/unstuck man

[nimble raven]

I mean you can do whatever you want with your server or what you think would make the game better, me personally and I mean it in the most respectful way. Thats a horrid idea lmfao. I like the general intention and goal but taking out core creatures that the community finds fun or taking out mechanics in general instead of finding a way of making it better is absolutely ridiculous.

[midnight tundra]

scroll up

[merry roost]

I mean hackers said before hed be happy with a server full of just ai

So if they wanna pay the money to enjoy that then more power to em

[indigo herald]

he still going?

[dense kestrel]

aim ur tail in the direction u want unstuck then try it

[jolly oasis]

i swear you don't even like the game 😭

[nimble raven]

I think its just a cop out from actually making the "troublesome" creatures fit into the enviornment better. I still dont get how troodon should be taken out, ive had plenty of times where ive taken down larger prey and got it stolen from something thats better at killing a troodon, and same goes for the other way around. Its not a direct effect on the enviornment by providing food with its body but it can contribute more than people realize

[severe wadi]

has anyone done more testing with kentros new buff, i wanna see how good it really is now

[placid tapir]

And how much has changed since then lol
There’s more to the possibilities now than ever.
There’s a reason dibble ai was disabled after if was just used to farm Rex’s etc.
if you need turtles for you’re multi hour respawn sim then go for it I guess. Don’t even need grow times at that point

[indigo herald]

ambiance, fear, still a meal for juvis too

[jolly oasis]

uhh idk abt testing but one sec

[nimble raven]

Oh for sure, im just giving my two cents

[midnight tundra]

unstuck doesnt even work

[jolly oasis]

am i allowed to send links to youtube in here 💭

[analog turret]

yes

[blissful mesa]

lmao mb..yeah log out is ur only option if spamming attack movment buttons dosnt work

[unkempt grail]

i see hacker is on his usual grindset again

[flint hound]

hey guys, if as a deino i have fractured body, will it heal when i will be simply sitting on bottom of the water?

[analog turret]

Notice that only troodon stans are upset that specific animals won't be in Hacker's server
Troodon mafia at work

[unkempt grail]

yes but it will be excruciatingly slow

[flint hound]

alr thanks!

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf, couldn’t a lot of these small creatures like Hypsi and troodon be upsized to fit a bit more in line with stuff like dryo or Herrera

[placid tapir]

Devs add Dino’s to create more ecosystem.
Players don’t like them.
Remove playables from server.
Fill server with ai food on a platter to make an “ecosystem”

[jolly oasis]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kriSi3mzggE?si=tL37S3hNZ7rNwede

[manic fulcrum]

Granted, I can sorta understand deino & Ptera

[severe wadi]

thanks

[sleek stratus]

Hi guys I’m new in the game. I wanted to ask if there is some ETA for semi-aquatic creatures, like the Baryonyx and the Spinosaurus

[graceful charm]

I’ve been saying that since their release

[merry roost]

No etas

[nimble raven]

Its not even like that its more of i dont see why it should happen

[analog turret]

depending on how big they'd be, they'd need a bunch of extra reworking

[somber urchin]

rule 10, actually.

[jolly oasis]

what's not working w it bro

[analog turret]

easy answer is - it's his server and he can build it how he wants

[subtle isle]

yeah lol its not like the game is bent on making the animals accurate sizes. they could be made a bit larger

[void marlin]

#rules-and-info

[severe wadi]

https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/mEJ5PSvaop1u1ZAww?invite=cr-MSxwcHEsMjEyMDk0NDQy most skillful deino player

[graceful charm]

Like if beipi just gets one shot pinned by austro then what’s the point? Especially if it doesn’t get upsized.

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf that trike looks like it was already really hurt

[sleek stratus]

My bad, sorry

[somber urchin]

all good!

[graceful charm]

The interaction between the two will have zero depth

[jolly oasis]

i have no idea lowkey this is just what i've seen

[merry roost]

Beipi prob gonna be faster in the water, simply swim away lol

[severe wadi]

i really hope its a tie if an austro pins a beipi, bc of beipis reflect pin dmg, seeing a dead beipi and austro laying together would be sick

[midnight tundra]

it does NOTHING. it doesnt teleport me, it doesnt move me, it doesnt tell me theres a cooldown when i spam it. i might aswell not have typed it.

[nimble raven]

Yeah i see that, and why it can be a valid option, but it'll make the game feel way less lively, player on player interaction should be the main goal or to at least keep it as a priority and supplement dino ai to keep it going and fill in the gaps, pvp will always be flawed in this game due to the average person seeing it more as a fighting game than an actual survival game lmao. But tbf thats how every survival game goes tbh

[void marlin]

Any ETAs to Maverick be added

[sleek stratus]

Can’t even ask if they are planned or similar?

[jolly oasis]

u on evrima or hordetest or?
i think you have to be standing aswell but don't quote me on that

[merry roost]

Thats if austro even gets a pin, pounce doesnt always = pin

[void marlin]

They are planned

[dense kestrel]

i still dont get the point on removing 250kg beipi

[graceful charm]

Not engaging

[sleek stratus]

Thank you! Really nice!

[placid tapir]

I just hope what happened to Rust doesn’t happen here to this game.
Min maxed top 500 Dino players seeking fame in a game with so much potential

[midnight tundra]

im on hordetest. i cant stand im locked into crouching under a log

[merry roost]

Lemme fix that for you: not engaging to me*

[manic fulcrum]

So here’s my crackpot theory right:

omni just had its pin standardized to 50% of its weight (same as Allo). I am gonna assume austro will now be the same

Beipi may just get an upsize to be outside its pin range

[silk sleet]

love seeing a classic go-nowhere debate, keep it up guys!

[nimble raven]

Yep i know, im just stating my view point and giving reasons to why i disagree on his view of troodon. Simply because that same view point will invalidate other small creatures

[somber urchin]

ofc! they are planned :) bary should be in the next (not current) hordetest :)

[severe wadi]

ooh yeah maybe

[merry roost]

The devs have already said plenty of times sometimes simply escaping IS and WILL be the valid survival tactic

[fringe adder]

they are planned but this game doesnt rly do eta's or patch dates etc stuff kinda just drops

[void marlin]

HOWEVER, Spino will take some time. Bary may be in the next HT!

[jolly oasis]

weird man i'm sorry, have you tried quick logging n logging back in to see if that helps? you could try to ping a server admin in #evrima-na or whatever region you're in

[merry roost]

You do not, cannot, will not be able to fight everything you share your environment with

[sleek stratus]

Oooh! Really good!

[graceful charm]

It wouldn’t be engaging for anyone if the beipi has to evacuate the area if an Austro is sharing the same area

[midnight tundra]

is there any chance an official server admin would get me unstuck?

[sleek stratus]

I guess Spino will be harder to balance, totally fair

[finite path]

how are people making the vibrant skins? i can only see the defualt colours on the skin creator

[jolly oasis]

or they can just co exist, i dunno how much food austro is really gonna get from beipi

[merry roost]

I highly doubt an austro is going to catch a beipi in the water, or even want to be in the water with it

[manic fulcrum]

Honestly if Austro is like 250kg, and Beipi gets a small upsize to like 130kg……woah

[civic karma]

but Austroraptor is superior

[nimble raven]

500 is too much. Even on a larger map. I think a nice sweet spot is 150-180, not too much where it feels cramped like 200+ but not too little to where it feels like you barely see people and you're living off ai 60% of the time

[subtle isle]

/unstuck and then died immediately :/ love this game lol

[void marlin]

Hot take:

Spino - Sucho - Bary will have the Allo/Omni, Dibble/Trike, Kentro/Stego situation

[jolly oasis]

how'd you die 😭

[severe wadi]

holyyy canni kentro js tried to afk kill me but i killed him

[graceful charm]

Even Two semi aquatics of similar size and niche who will encounter each regardless?

[merry roost]

More likely it ends up being a situation where both just avoid eachother or have an uneasy peace

[subtle isle]

got sent like 50 feet up in the air

[nimble raven]

We still need video proof of this, havent seen any omni gameplay recently

[jolly oasis]

bro that sucks i'm sorry 💔

[midnight tundra]

i tried logging out. didnt work

[void marlin]

Every playable is hard to balance. Take a look on Rex for example

[jolly oasis]

you may just have to wait until you die or play on another server honestly. that's really unfortunate dude i'm sorry

[manic fulcrum]

I’ll remember to get a video when I’m back tonight. You can test it rn by hopping in with someone as spawn codes

[sleek stratus]

Is it planned too? Carnivorous will eat good

[hoary sage]

It's one of the next upcoming dinos, along with oviraptor

[graceful charm]

Probably but beipis “fight me” character isn’t really on show here. Especially for its main threat.

[fringe adder]

big clans n stuff already exist on official but they are much easier to avoid and play around than they are on rust

[void marlin]

Yay Ovi!!

[nimble raven]

Every new playable becomes harder to balance when coming into the game because of how many creatures there are and scenarios. Its not just full grown vs full grown combat or prime vs prime combat you have to base the balance of the game on. Its every general growth stage of every creature in the game (for the most part) and that isnt even accounting abilities or traits that make them unique

[jolly oasis]

yeah i really hate the clans dude 🥀 excited for HT to move to evrima so i can play unofficial

[severe wadi]

OVII!!!

[bold pendant]

guys is prime call only for prime rexxes or frails too

[somber urchin]

always a chance, justd epends if there if there is someone available to do so.

[void marlin]

Cof cof
Rex and Allo
Cof cof

[severe wadi]

do you mean paleo call?

[urban comet]

if you are talking about the paleo call, any adult rex can do it. Just hold F and 1 call

[hoary sage]

Or F and RMB

[blissful mesa]

do fish not give diet anymore

[midnight tundra]

i pinged an admin in evrima-eu

[graceful charm]

Apparently not on the current ht

[blissful mesa]

lol im gunna be diet deffienct

[nimble raven]

Fish are bugged

[urban comet]

u wot m8?

[bold pendant]

yeah

[void marlin]

Yoink

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-iii-jurassic-park3-jurassic-park-pteranodon-gif-22721714

[graceful charm]

No prime For you

[light zephyr]

fish are not bugs?

[midnight tundra]

please i can log back in when theres someone available

[jolly oasis]

peak

[somber urchin]

i mean. yeah,. thats usually reccomended

[void marlin]

can i post my dog here

[somber urchin]

if someone doesnt reply right away its always better to log and try again later

[graceful charm]

If it’s a dilo dog then yes

[past dune]

Oh, I'm mostly going to be reworking mechanics rather than removing them.
The concepts behind a lot of them are solid, but the implementation leaves a lot to be desired. Diets, Migrations, and Elders are going to receive a ton of focus. Patrols will be going, and I don't think I need to explain why. But honestly I'm a little offended that you think I intend on reducing the scope of the mechanics of the game rather than expanding it...

Also, Hypsi is being removed because I cannot find a way to make it worthwhile to the ecosystem without hilariously exaggerating it, so it is much easier to just axe it. Deino and Ptera make map design extremely difficult, Deino far more than Ptera, God, building water sources around Deino is just mind meltingly limiting... Ptera could actually work with some major changes, mainly just going all in on it being a scavenger, adding height limits, and having new mechanics to further enforce zones and interaction consistency, but that doesn't really solve any of the other problems of having a flying creature, as it stands... I'm just gonna disable it, it's one of those things where I think it's really cool, but it's just not worth it, the pros don't outweigh the cons. Troodon, as stated many times before, takes dozens of times more from the ecosystem than it provides, it's simply a parasite.

Even if a kill is stolen, it's like a rat killing a hippo and then a lion strolls by to eat it, if a giant is going to die, I want it to go down with a giants worth of effort. A hippo dying to a rat is not value that is added to the ecosystem, it is only reduction. It doesn't make the kill itself any different, it doesn't change the effect that it has on the world, and it doesn't make killing the rat any more valuable. Even if we go with the rest of the rebalancing to bump up the value of smaller creatures... the balance of what it provides to what it costs is still way out of whack. If I reduced it's killing potential, or heavily altered it's venom... it would still be a problem, and it would be killing the identity of the creature, which I do not want to do.

Again, like with Hypsi, even if I inflated their size and values to a ludicrous degree, and scaled down the venom significantly, you'd be left with something that doesn't even resemble the original creature. I have seen the horrors of a Dryo sized Troodon, and I refuse to go down that path.

But... again, I don't think these creatures are a problem, I love hypsi, I love pteranodon, I think they provide a lot of value to the type of game The Isle is. But they only detract from the experience that I am aiming for.

[graceful charm]

He big as hell

[past dune]

Oh HELL no.
JESUS CHRIST.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT.
EW
GOD
DISGUSTING

[odd osprey]

how migration and patrols work for predators?

[void marlin]

Didn't you use AI...?

[blissful mesa]

is it intentinol or a mistake...its wild everyone else gets deer/boar..croc gets nothin?/

[fringe adder]

they only matter for getting prime, the idea is they help u find herbs who go there for food

[midnight tundra]

will a server admin reply in evrima-eu? please i dont want to lose this rex ive been growing it for 3 hours

[odd osprey]

but in reality it does not work?

[dense kestrel]

dibble? (u gonna go for a 1.5 ton dib)

[worn night]

How do yall always have these pics ready to go lmao

[graceful charm]

We can hope it’s either a bug or not intentional rn

[brisk nest]

wait baryonx is only 3 meters?! i thought they were atleast 10

[odd osprey]

Ok one thing i understand now is that most people have no idea how the game works, i keep hearing contradicting answers

[void marlin]

What?

[fringe adder]

yea ppl tend to hang around specific hotspots but u will occasionally find people in certain patrol zone areas too

[severe wadi]

3 meters tall

[brisk nest]

yea

[severe wadi]

u thought bary was 10 meters tall?

[brisk nest]

I think i miscalculated

[past dune]

It works for the elder system but it can be inconsistent...
As far as player distribution is concerned, no, it doesn't really work at all.

[worn night]

That’s 30ft lol more like spino

[severe wadi]

yeah i think so too... thats sauropod size

[fringe adder]

basically u need to visit 2 migration zones and 4 patrol zones to get prime, it doesnt matter if the zones are active or not when u visit them. All they do is spawn diet food for herbivores

[jolly oasis]

idk like they said it just depends on admin availability

[void marlin]

For instance: a banana is 20cm long

[past dune]

Yeah, gonna kick it down to like 1.6 - 1.8, but I'll need to talk to the guy I'm leaning on to help with balance to have more detail than that...
Gonna be dragging Carno out of the mud up to 2.1 as well, although that will come with some very extreme changes to it's playstyle.

[somber urchin]

if they are available, yes. if you havent heard from anyone just log and ask again later! :)

[void marlin]

WAIT I DIDN'T MEAN THAT-

[dense kestrel]

gobble gobble ?

[brisk nest]

welp it's still fast?

[past dune]

Slower brawler most likely.
Small game hunter Carno doesn't sit right with me.

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-beepy-kaperoo-beipiaosaurus-evrima-gif-26444062

[severe wadi]

maybe

[dense kestrel]

ah , nice. what about cera then , a downsize?

[void marlin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past dune]

Maybe, but that depends on if the concept of an armor mechanic is on the table.

[lost musk]

"ew a troodon"

until its 20

[midnight tundra]

ping an admin again in evrima-eu?

[graceful charm]

Whatever happened to that? I remember don posting a pic of a thicc carno but was that just the elder?

[void marlin]

Give wings to troodon

[late latch]

If they're increasing carno, teno better have a buff too

[somber urchin]

at a later time. after you've logged out, yeah.

[dense kestrel]

if it really leaned into the scavenger niche i feel that a weight reduction wouldnt be bad

[lost musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ratbird-cloudywithachanceofmeatballs-gif-5184387

[midnight tundra]

how will they reply? in dms or in evrima-eu?

[tiny burrow]

Potentially it was a WIP concept for it being able to swallow larger amounts of food at once.

[past dune]

Hmm
Honestly I kinda like Teno where it is, it doesn't need to always parallel carno.

[dense kestrel]

i have genuinely no clue

[worn night]

Rhamph lol

[dense kestrel]

.....semiaquatic expansion to teno?

[somber urchin]

like try again in an hour or sumthin like that maybe someone will be available
should be in the eu chat yea.

[void marlin]

Domain Expansion?

[past dune]

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-is-a-goober-gif-16023559585066126065

[midnight kernel]

Teno has always been able to handle carno fine. The cerato changes with no teno changes honestly concerns me more. But its able to survive despite it all....just not very happilly

[midnight tundra]

ok thx

[dense kestrel]

hackers carno is gonna be 2.1 tons but apparently slower

[void marlin]

Semiaquatic omni yes

[past dune]

I would like to put it in more direct comparison to Bary than Carno, but I don't actually know what's possible in terms of water mechanics. I have to ask some people about that.

[midnight kernel]

Ah. Yikes. Nevermind then lmao

[dense kestrel]

diving , walking on the riverbed , aquatic plants to eat at the river bed

[void marlin]

This is actually interesting

[dense kestrel]

tbh its what i want from current evrimas teno

[nimble raven]

I aint readin allat LOL
Nah but seriously, I see what you mean
I dont agree with takin out the creatures entirely but i see why you'd want to do it. They'll take a ton of effort and time and changes to the entire map just to make it better but in the end it is your server. I do think some could use minor changes and they'd be improved significantly, troodons identity for example wont be taken away by just limiting its scope of hunting, a rat taking down a hippo is pretty stupid so why not limit it to something 2-3 tiers or whatever best fits it. Im not even a massive troodon enjoyer I was more so pointing out how that would effect other small or tiny tiers.
To be fair though MUCH of the current roster and overall gameplay is unfinished or expecting to be changed so I see why you'd rather go down this route lol

[toxic fox]

So, why has the reddit been set to private?

[midnight kernel]

A diving mut would be cool on certain dinos ngl

[manic fulcrum]

Honestly bary makes more sense às a “rival” for Teno especially if it gets a dive. Since Teno is basically the most aquatic herbivore outside minmi & Cheirus (yayayaya omnivore)

[void marlin]

DEVs, hire this guy

[somber urchin]

wasnt an official reddit, so no idea

[dense kestrel]

money , HELL YEA

[unkempt bolt]

Wait what cera changes?

[void marlin]

Egg

[graceful charm]

Bots took over and the mods were active enough to deal with them. There’s a new one tho

[midnight kernel]

Im referring to cerato getting 5 to a pack and being 1.6k in weight when it used to be 4 and 1.3

[past dune]

Yeah... but like most of the plants are gonna be fully terrestrial at least at the start so idk man. Not a super high priority goal, although I would still really like to see it happen.

[undone cliff]

No selfies

[toxic fox]

ah darn i always went there to look up my issues to see if anyone had a resolve lol

[maiden wolf]

what happeneddd

[nimble raven]

Teno "rivaling" bary would be so awesome, perfect match up tbh especially if teno ever got a dive, i like the idea of a pseudo-aquatic playstyle for teno in general

[midnight tundra]

this screenshot would have been beautiful IF I WASNT STUCK UNDER A LOG

[void marlin]

So I can't post this? :c

[toxic fox]

anyone know any good tricks to get off a pounced raptor when the bucking mechanic inevitably does bug out and fail to work?

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/beef-netflix-what-you-did-was-not-nice-its-not-nice-to-do-that-not-nice-gif-2476139960073760079

[toxic fox]

im sitting on a stego rn just kinda....dying

[worn night]

Bind buck to R key

[severe wadi]

why tf is it so green

[stone tiger]

Can you imagine a Kentro without the shoulder spikes?

[graceful charm]

That’s the fun part, you can’t . Or go to a rock (if they work) or go into water

[void marlin]

Skill issue

[undone cliff]

[past dune]

GOD I LOVE IT

[toxic fox]

ah water will force them off? thatll work

[maiden wolf]

its pitch black here

[severe wadi]

is it normal for me to not be able to see anything while its still day time in game

[late latch]

Turn on your nv, fool

[undone cliff]

Ian I swear

[dense kestrel]

okay so i know im asking a lot of questions but where would megalania fit idealy in ur ecosystem

[midnight tundra]

yo krow youre an admin right? can you get my rex unstuck on ht eu 2?

[past dune]

Dude if weather is actually cycling now and the ping isn't rancid I'm gonna hop on later.

[severe wadi]

its not any brighter when its on

[void marlin]

C:

[worn night]

Nah bucking works. Just have to be still and rebind buck key

[ripe whale]

Ping is good now if it's the same from earlier today

[past dune]

pfft
I haven't even started thinking about that.
That's years down the road anyways, I'm more focused on what's available right now.

[undone cliff]

I do not currently have perms within the hordetest, sorry!

[dense kestrel]

guess i cant post this either...

[mild wagon]

broo its green here too

[lucid urchin]

Ping has been behaving for the most part. I've personally been experiencing some very minor rubber-banding in higher pop servers. The weather does cycle.

[undone cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/your-not-that-guy-yourenotthatguy-gif-22098263

[midnight tundra]

i see

[dense kestrel]

fair enough , im just a sad megalania enthusiast cant blame me for trying

[past dune]

[knotty shell]

the quetzl should be releasing within 1 to 2 years right

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-police-chase-gta-cat-car-gif-12535940970811806327

[tall hamlet]

HT US1 teno eggs.

[dense kestrel]

if all goes well playables wise this year id say a good chance next year

[void marlin]

No thx

[past dune]

The only creatures that aren't released yet that I'm thinking about are the ones that are in the current batch.

Except Ovi... that thing... is an enigma.

[urban comet]

sure

[somber urchin]

did you mean:

[dense kestrel]

i adore ovi

[nimble raven]

I could see it coming this year (im delusional and coping harder than i ever have)

[knotty shell]

i hope🥀

[indigo mountain]

im stealing this

[dense kestrel]

im more than certain cama and para will come b4 it

[full trout]

wasnt there a channle with skin codes for the isel

[undone cliff]

We can only hope and pray soon™

[lucid urchin]

#skins

[tall hamlet]

dammit ian

[inland basin]

is the rubber banding stilll a thing rn on hord ?

[clever matrix]

Was this here eariler in Hordetest?

[past dune]

If possible I'd like to kick it up to a much larger size and rename it to Anzu... and get rid of the nest raiding niche for something more substantial, but we know so little about it that it's hard to write anything out for it.

[knotty shell]

no

[lucid urchin]

This is new to my knowledge.

[urban comet]

Damn new human stuff, this peak

[dense kestrel]

i just took that selfie of myself btw

[tall hamlet]

cmon in

[past dune]

Ay where the hell did this come from

[knotty shell]

its new and unfinished

[frail bough]

man devs had to choose spino giga albertosaurus parasauro etc and they chose ovi like shoot me in the head and let me die

[ripe whale]

Where is that

[dense kestrel]

all i hear is blah blah blah

[clever matrix]

I often shorefish down on the "safe" side there. was a big surprise.

[ruby oak]

Oviraptor trumps all those that you just aforementioned, you just don't realise it yet.

[undone cliff]

If you wanted a deathmatch game legacy is right there

[clever matrix]

Off of Water Access Dam

[analog turret]

hows the HT

[past dune]

If Ovi is what I fear it will be... I'm blasting that thing into the sun alongside the other sacrificial lambs.

[indigo mountain]

ovi was finished first because its the simplest

[frail bough]

we dont talk about legacy okay

[indigo mountain]

what do you fear o-o

[void marlin]

SRUG

[graceful charm]

What do you fear it will be?

[ruby oak]

Unstoppable

[indigo mountain]

NAI

[frail bough]

its like turning back to ex that was toxic and kept you low in life and getting a partner thats actually growing and changing

[stuck inlet]

the mist/fog

[past dune]

Egg raiding as it's core niche, and semi accurate to Paleo size.

That would be the worst case scenario.

[undone cliff]

Damn dude you don't have to get so real with it.

[indigo mountain]

What would you like it to be?

[merry roost]

He fears itll be good and not pvp slop

[past dune]

Anzu.

[late latch]

Oh no! The dev team doesn't want to churn out apexes to satisfy the little people on their screen! Oh nooooo

[void marlin]

How are you??

[analog turret]

gigantoraptor would be cool

[past dune]

THAT IS THE MOST REAL THING EVER

[frail bough]

why you so much emotional about it i just say opinion

[void marlin]

YES

[nimble raven]

Vaaaa no oviii??? Damn bro you almost had me with your cera, carno, and teno ideas and then you say thisss

[undone cliff]

[late latch]

Sarcasm

[past dune]

Dude I've had Gigantoraptor on my wishlist for the last 4 years lmaoo

[analog turret]

how do you do the hexcode colour thing again

[graceful charm]

I will be extremely surprised if that’s not going to be their idea for it

[indigo mountain]

-# rapid googling ensues

[analog turret]

I drew one ages ago hold on

[indigo mountain]

IM ALIVE, HOW ARE YOU?

[graceful charm]

You’ve always been an enlightened one hacker

[past dune]

I would love if Oviraptor was just a juvenile Gigantoraptor.

[void marlin]

IM UNDERPAID

[analog turret]

Snacks Gigantoraptor

[viscid surge]

I tried the Rex on an empty server and it's quite fast when sprinting. Especially with ambush.
As prey, if a Rex is chasing me with ambush. What's the best way to escape? Run straight? Or out-agility it? Or are you screwed if the rex runs after you?

[past dune]

If I can give it the Beipi treatment then it's fine, but a nest raider is just... so utterly pointless.

[indigo mountain]

YAY YOU AND ME BOTH IAN

[undone cliff]

By the way, I know it's not exactly impressive, but The Isle has more players than Destiny 2 and Marathon. Almost combined, that's wild to me.

[nimble raven]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-get-trolled-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-20266975

[analog turret]

Guys how do I do the colour hexcode thing in HT I wanna type my name in

[tight cypress]

Small-ish, feathered, raptor in the name, close enough. Welcome in micro raptor 🦐

[void marlin]

This violates so many laws of biology.

[indigo mountain]

Sharks are lawless beings.

[past dune]

I love this little freak, but I love Gigantoraptor more...
But if I can't have Gigantoraptor, I will take this instead.

[haughty condor]

I lose my ptera when I try to latch onto a tree at night where the entire screen is just black and I fully die from full health from falling only about 1.5s. Next I spawn and can't spear in riv or mud because it is raining. Just my luck...

[frail bough]

i dont think its finished but yeah maybe it is simple who am i to judge that
i just say that niche we have now would imo be better with bigger dinos

[nimble raven]

I dont know about you guys but trolling people with ovi and its egg snatching will bring me much joy and laughter to my life

[void marlin]

As a shark owner, I agree

[past dune]

Just type into the upload skin section.

[nimble raven]

Anzu?

[indigo mountain]

OOOOO I LIKE THAT

[void marlin]

I love that

[analog turret]

Oh it's just a pitch black rex

[tight cypress]

That is one pretty bird 👁️ 👁️

[past dune]

Big enough to matter!

[zenith pulsar]

so many dilos on hordetest

[past dune]

What eggs?

[livid bay]

what u hope it to be ?

[past dune]

Honestly if Ovi can't really be fixed... it could just be relegated to nest raiding AI like how Compy was.

[void marlin]

12T Oviraptor when

[tight cypress]

The eggs it sniffs silly goose

[iron tiger]

i love kentro

[odd osprey]

Are there any plans for reworking it, sicne it does not work?

[iron tiger]

buff kentro spikes and mechanics

[leaden cobalt]

Hi

[viscid surge]

if you are elder, how do you know? Is there an indicator that tells you or do I have to look up 'stats' and figure it out

[nimble raven]

People have been nestinggg, maybe more incentive to do so would help :/

Still either way ovi looks like a fun little dude, ima be playin em from time to time

[indigo mountain]

ohh its not even a birdie its a non-avian dino. i like that

[indigo mountain]

anything past 75% is elder. if u get your 4th mutation. you're a prime. if not, you're a frail.

[livid bay]

official server dont have but petit pied have many nester

[viscid surge]

Ah I see... I havent touched the isle since allo hordetest

Is there a site that details matchups? Like what can escape rexes, or what can / can't escape Allo etc

[void marlin]

The birb

[true solar]

Your weight but if you also press the 4th mut and around 85% your elder morph

[merry roost]

d2's current state brings me no end of sadness

[indigo mountain]

the game isn't always as simple as that - you just need to know your weight and your speed, and maybe know whats a good bleeder and what isnt. All fun in learning while you play :)

[past dune]

Probably around 350kg, omnivore, quick and agile, blunt damage rather than bleed, nothing to force it into nest raiding... and then like every agility or parkour mechanic you could think of. Because fun movement can make a playable.

Double jump, short glide, slow fall, wall run, etc.
Could probably think of a combat niche for it but honestly I think the agility alone would make it quite interesting.

Basically just... not Oviraptor.

[glacial panther]

These ideas sound familiar,,,

[past dune]

SSHSHSHSHSHHSSSSHHHHHHH
SHUT IT

[void marlin]

Chat, which historical monument should I steal?

[true solar]

Uh maia and galli elder primes prob only things that can safely out run allo and rex at 100% everything else needs distance and alot along with breaking line of sight

[glacial panther]

[oblique stone]

The Statue of Liberty

[void marlin]

Done

[past dune]

The world must never know that I am basically copying a lot of these from my old preserve design docs

[nimble raven]

Ive had a wishlist for a few playables that i think would fit well or be interesting, mainly bajada, tupa or tapejara, iguanodon, or plateo

[void marlin]

Rude

[oblique stone]

Plateo was Cancelled and your Others have Not been Mentioned.

[indigo mountain]

definetly the sydney opera house. though its not so historical.

[late latch]

The mariana trench

[nimble raven]

Plateo or iguanodon would fill the diving herbivore niche if teno never gets it

[past dune]

But yeah, I think I'd be fine with making Oviraptor AI only, more interesting nest raider than Compy, and around the same size.

[void marlin]

Done

[mild wagon]

i pray for iguanodon

[graceful charm]

Neither are coming lmao

[fading wing]

Hello anyone knows how to hit fully grown triceratops i hit 9.5 tons but idk how to increase the 0% growth rate

[nimble raven]

Just ideas on what i think would fit bro

[void marlin]

Done too

[late latch]

Very good

[past dune]

You cannot, growth rate drops to 0 once you hit elder.
So conversely... you don't need to worry about diets anymore !

[ripe whale]

Growth boost goes to 0%, you'll still grow but more slowly