isle-discussion

[silk iron]

that is a fully grown rex 3 calling, not an allo my bad

[pliant birch]

hang on a friend of mine made a dryo burrow render, doesnt look that great but

[viral shale]

Dryo burrowing opens the way for minmi, protoceratops, ava, megalania.. will be fun

[digital tulip]

It won't to my knowledge. We have other criteria that informs the release order and it's rarely rivalries.

[wooden marsh]

they have burrows? how deep are they?

[silk iron]

i feel like i need to move out of my bush, i dont feel so safe anymore

[silk iron]

the future.... soon..... this will be REAL!

[thorn oriole]

I got a ping spike haha

[lost musk]

have yall ever discussed monolophosaurus? any idea on that at all?

[viral shale]

Minmi and proto? Not so sure
The last two just steal burrows/hunt in them.

[digital tulip]

A peacock palm

[lost musk]

not to worry i killed this in your honor

[silk iron]

YEEEESSS REX DOWN

[lost musk]

Woah that is HUGE-

[thorn oriole]

Haha good stuff

[silk iron]

oh my god its actually real

[lime tangle]

O h

[digital tulip]

Ravenala Madagascariensis

[pliant birch]

LOL thats amazing

[lost musk]

bruhh i wasnt even NEAR it 💔

but he spared me on 1 hp for some reason

[manic fulcrum]

Hey Kissen, are you able to share about what Ovi will have (or maybe things you want to try) that’ll make it a definitive egg thief

[digital tulip]

Mmhmm. We were just taking about it a bit last week. But not ready to get deep on it yet.

[silk iron]

he probably realised u were hurting him LMAO

[lost musk]

good point lmao

[viral shale]

Troodon hurts as small omni when pounced

[lost musk]

ooo exciting, the snot trap tracker is a really cool concept so im excited to see more of that

[crisp vector]

How’s the Ava coming along? Don’t really hear much about it

[silk iron]

im actually really scared, my pachy is completely hidden but im on officials and these rexes lurking around.. they could be evil... more evil than the average rex

[lost musk]

woohoo

[pliant birch]

I know what render ima do first

[trail shard]

Saved by our god Acrocanthosaurus

[lost musk]

herra and hypsi?

and/or*

[oblique edge]

Hi kissen

[viral shale]

That tree put on some weight

[lost musk]

really rooting for it to become playable, so much potential

[crisp vector]

Fr

[digital tulip]

Can't get into the deeper mechanics in case we want to keep things more simple but I can say it'll need to crack the eggs open.

[trail shard]

Woah it's Poutine 👋

[indigo cave]

No way peacock tree

[digital tulip]

Heyoooo

[lost musk]

40kmh, 1 ton, the bully ceratopsian

[viral shale]

I hope that means eggs will be nutritious again(At least for small things)

[digital tulip]

I wanted to do baobabs so bad! But it got out voted.

[lost musk]

OH kissen i just remembered, have yall ever thought of having knockback? not exactly stuns, but you being able to be pushed around or have your momentum affected by shoves instead of just stopping to a stun recovery anim

[pliant birch]

WHAT

NOOO

[pastel sleet]

NOOOOOO

[lost musk]

its okay frolo

we have austroraptor

[digital tulip]

Yeah

[pliant birch]

NO ITS NOT OKAY IM SAD NOW

[rotund ibex]

Is there any plan to increase elder weight of Beipi? I feel like its damage/bleed and speed are fine, but its weight is too low to feasibly protect the shores of where it lives. If it attempts any form of territory defense, it gets killed in one bite, especially with how amazing its 3 call is.

[indigo cave]

Kissen do we know if brachi is still on the table? 🦕

[stone tiger]

Dryo be like:
Are they edible

[lost musk]

annnddddd? do you think that could be on the board at some point? i'd love to see stuff being pushed around

[digital tulip]

I don't know honestly. I'm sure after the HT we may make some balance changes so we'll see how it ends up.

[viral shale]

Speaking of small stuff, will you guys do anything to incentivize people to play smaller things? Even with rex's long and tedious growth, they're everywhere.

[wide dock]

Hi Kitten

[digital tulip]

There are a few things we're trying to do atm that are impeding exploring that sort of stuff just yet. There's a lot going on. lol

[wide dock]

Kitten would can u say if we getting a HT in about 1-2months? Or more

[digital tulip]

It's AI'ght

lol

[lost musk]

man wouldnt it be darn amazing to have a way for even bigger stuff to be scared off by small things without the constant goal being kill kill maul?

like how a badger can scare off a whole darn lion, i'd love to see a beipi spooking off an omni without just being scoffed at and eviscerated instantly, i'd just love to see interactions like that

[craggy pebble]

Hi kissen is there any para news you might share with us?

[stone tiger]

It would be so large that it would be unplayable

Like outside the Great Southern plains

[neon elk]

oh my

[trail shard]

oh my

[indigo cave]

But have you considered not having to worry about rex? :3

[silk iron]

my heart dropped oohh my god

[manic fulcrum]

I just want a HT dedicated to MZ & PZ QOL

[lost musk]

itll live on the shallow ocean floor like the lochness monster

[oblique edge]

You think?

[wide dock]

I just want to know if HT is close like a month or 2

[rotund ibex]

Is there anything more you can share about Deinocheirus? It is my favorite dinosaur and I would love to know more about The Isle's version of it

[wide dock]

The fat duck

[wooden marsh]

This is its fate

[slow lintel]

if you think the isle is good game then why you not playing it today now?

[wide dock]

Im still waitting for bary, my fav dino and im sure isle devs will nail it, but not getting any news about HT is a Bit Frustrating

[lost musk]

poor fella accepted his fate

but eliminating competition and future predators it is what it is

[wooden marsh]

I'm waiting for Maip

[wide dock]

Im in college, studying 3d design so i can make games as well

[stone tiger]

Highland lake

Loch Gaidhealtachd monster

[manic fulcrum]

Reminds me of a time

[viral flower]

hey Kissen will Dilo clones get a fix?

[slow lintel]

cool thing cool thing..yes make another isle copy game eberyone will lobe it deer

[wide dock]

The last tome they said its one of main problems to get fixed

[mild wagon]

hello Kissen, my friend @maiden wolf asks what are you plans for human survival aspect? like making structures/collecting resources because he likes the idea of oil rigs

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-laugh-four-gif-7446278225827837893

[pastel sleet]

is allo gonna get more stuff on its diet?

[glossy harbor]

good fun

[viral flower]

ah thanks 😄

[maiden wolf]

oil rigs are cool

[lost musk]

bye bye 8 hours 🥲

fun!

[wide dock]

No, allo is allergic to slot of stuff

[crisp vector]

This ain’t rust

[slow lintel]

hmm i see

[silk iron]

stay off of paths or you'll run into the local edater group is the lesson im learning

[manic fulcrum]

[wide dock]

Bruh aino no way 3 rexes micing witha. Trike what a bunch of low lifers

[wooden marsh]

Yo guys let's invade the Path of Titans discord and spam that The Isle is better just because

[wide dock]

No they are both good games

[silk iron]

lets ruin the isle communities rep even more

[wooden marsh]

Ok

[wide dock]

Fr

[lime tangle]

Brother, don't do that 🙄

[wooden marsh]

What's wrong with our rep?

[silk iron]

many evil evil souls

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/skyfall-skill-issue-gif-27325993

[viral shale]

Where's the punchline

[slow lintel]

which game?

[wraith hound]

man i just want bary or atleast know if its doing as good as austro

[wide dock]

When

[viral shale]

What

[digital tulip]

The smaller ambient creatures may help a bit with that but honestly we've never hyper fixated on trying to get players to gravitate one way or another. We try to make the ecosystem as real as we can and let that do the heavy lifting but ultimately we make playables for all sorts of dinosaur enjoyers. Mostly focusing on making the playable true to form rather than deliberately trying to force you guys to play them. Who they appeal to is who they appeal to. Not all of our animals are going to share the same level of complexity and we're alright with that. Some creatures may be for someone that wants a long, intense experience and others may be for someone that has 15 minutes to kill. We're still going to flesh out their lives as much as we can within our reasons but we're not trying to push and pull your species choices to a hard degree.

[snow obsidian]

Does the low rep have anything to do with all these ridiculous gacha servers out there

[wide dock]

Kitten, u have an idea if we getting HT in around a month or 2?

[slow lintel]

cool game name. I must play what today now deer. thanks deer

[wooden marsh]

Why does everyone want this bird so hard?

[trail shard]

https://tenor.com/view/skipper-penguins-of-madagascar-stan-twitter-wolf-classified-gif-15488089416587005251

[vital onyx]

has anything cool been posted in 14 hours I’ve been AFK big time

[silk iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396350852385603605/1435322479890530415/togif.gif

[wide dock]

Nu

[digital tulip]

Now you know that's an ETA

[silk iron]

GET HIM

[manic fulcrum]

Speaking of Rex growth. It’s honestly not even a “hard” growth. Only a long one

[digital tulip]

[wide dock]

😂😂😂😭😭

[silk iron]

the hardest growth in the game is herrera

[lost musk]

yeahh thats pretty sad too

[granite dock]

Guys can full prime allo pin full prime carno

[wide dock]

Yes

[manic fulcrum]

the fact that Rex can live off boars & deer still baffles me

[lost musk]

not even a joke thats saadd

[wooden marsh]

Hear me out: permanent injuries

[vapid pumice]

one can hope that the game does get a bit harder, considering don mentioned its on """baby mode"""

[viral shale]

Thanks for the detailed answer. It is indeed impossible to control what people want to play, it's just a gripe many have where you end up running into the same stuff because they're currently "meta" and extremely strong. Ends up not leaving much room smaller carnivores to play around in, and leaves much to be desired from herbivore gameplay when you're dying to another rex for the 10th time.
It makes ecosystems stale and boring. At least that's my opinion.

[sand abyss]

kissen why is rex not an automatic cani like deino. seems like in legacy the rexes sorted the population issue by eating eachother

[silk iron]

dude i spent like an hour trying to grow a herrera, tried to jump across the 2 rocks at highlands sanctuary and when i connected with the cliff it slid me down and i died to fall damage

[viral shale]

People would just sustain themselves off of other rexes instead of hunting anything else. It would make getting diets trivial

[wheat moth]

It'd be nice if rex was given the deinosuchus treatment and had to live off player kills if it wants diet. I'm not really counting the elite fish/schooling fish and frogs, since the former is so very rare, and the others hardly feed you when it matters.

[neon elk]

hyper...

[zealous lantern]

Me and my buddy are gonna play for the first time, is Dino Den good for newbies, and would we struggle as a Omni duo?

[wheat moth]

Hypo

[neon elk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1164393584380874823/the-isle-gif-6.gif

[silk iron]

dinoden is full of rulebreakers that the admins blatantly ignore so i really wouldnt bother with it if you want a good experience

[viral shale]

Don't play Dino Den
Play Mettas or Peanuts server

[wraith hound]

hyperendocrin

[wheat moth]

[neon elk]

yay

[pliant birch]

admin abuse ADMIN ABUSE ADMIN ABUSE

[zealous lantern]

We're EU so Peanuts servers are probably not ideal

[snow obsidian]

Play any other server it's just people trying to make money off someone else's work

[silk iron]

im igivng THE SIMPLE ANSWER!

[ivory sand]

Hello !

[clever spear]

if I recall correctly, that server has a lot of admin abuse, so id pick another unofficial. I can always recommend petits pieds. You may not be able to play what you want though, since the server locks overpopulated dinosaurs

[quaint lichen]

desyncing/esping rex US 10 beware

[silk iron]

theres an eu petits pieds server so you could do that

[stone tiger]

Nae lad You got it wrong.
Titans wouldn't ne safe from Trex.
I believe the devs would make a lot of additional efforts to make killing a Titan Brachi a teamwork demanding task.

Two Rex one biting the Titan's legs and tail to annoy it until the Titan player tries to lower its head and neck just about the right high for the OTHER Rex tae grab it!

Get a hold on it and strange it which being latched on the Brachiosaurus's neck and KILL IT

[zealous lantern]

Someone I spoke to the other night said not to play petits as a newbie?

[stone tiger]

In a way Rex could pin a Brachi given if the Sauropods allows Rex to latch on it's neck

[silk iron]

if you want a good eu server petits is your best bet (im pretty sure, dont know of any other eu servers)

[pastel sleet]

or just kick the rexes back to the main menu

[viral shale]

Petits is a bit difficult, most players are experienced
Also you wont be getting much done as omni duo.
However petits EU is a decent pick if you have no other option.

[oblique edge]

You have great taste

[wraith hound]

but what is hyperendocrin, can you tell me my good friend ?

[zealous lantern]

Okay we'll give petits EU a try, what would be a better species option for a newbie duo?

[stone tiger]

That's why Rexes would attack the Branchi's legs to deny it that ability

[oblique edge]

herbivores are more friendly and forgiving in general

Carnivores have more competition, you will probaby die more

[stone tiger]

Hello poutineitalienne

[digital tulip]

Oh I totally agree. And if it reaches a pain point for us, we'll probably reevaluate some things. But as far as I've ever known, we've not wanted to restrict what you play and when. Great for a diverse assortment of dinosaurs but not so great for player freedom that can often result in some of the most memorable moments in The Isle. Like coming across a massive herd/pack of some species all because someone just felt like putting a species event together and did it with a group of friends. Being the change you want to see is the best way to combat the matter in the meantime.

[oblique edge]

hi

[silk iron]

[snow obsidian]

Cuz if they ban the people that pay their patreon they won't make any money lol

[manic fulcrum]

This is pretty related to “what people play and whatnot” but I think it was Hypno awhile ago mentioned that you guys want to discourage everyone from swarming to the biggest & strongest playables through harder growth. So that you find a good middle ground between difficulty and wanting players to play the animals. But currently there’s little to no difficulty when growing TREX which is an apex in the ecosystem. While it is a long growth that doesn’t equate to a difficult one. As you can unfortunately just live off of boars & deer far past your Juvenile stage, and you rarely ever have to go out of your way to hunt players due to the safety net of Ai & Rex’s VERY generous hunger drain.

Are there any plans to help increase the difficulty a bit for the apexs & other larger dinosaurs accordingly?

[stone tiger]

Herbivores also tend to kill more animals Don't forget that.

[glossy harbor]

Pachy

[lost musk]

i think one of the biggest problems with the ambient creatures that makes them not worth it to many players is how long it takes to grow them for how little you get out of it and how easy it is to die

one wrong move, one unlucky moment, one ping spike, thats all it takes for a creature you spent, for some reason an hour on, to just.. die, and theres no second chances.

dinos like beipi and dryo are not worth the 45 minute to 1 hour+ grow for how small and useless they are in the environment, thats why they can be so discouraging to play. You grow it for more than its worth.

but then that comes with more conflictions, like the elder system now. How am i supposed to get prime if i dont have enough time to do the requirements before im adult?

i guess one way to go about it is to make the growth curve mostly subadult for like half of the growth time? but still my point is that the smaller creatures take too long to grow for what theyre worth.

[digital tulip]

And if the species is rare enough, you get to be a unicorn for a day. lol

[silk iron]

pachys the goat

[zealous lantern]

Best carni for newbie duo? I don't think either of us have any interest in eating leaves 🤣

[stone tiger]

I bet you taste good

[oblique edge]

I meant as a new player his better bet is spawning in a herbivore nest and enjoying the ride with them

[silk iron]

pachy is the most carnivorous herbivore there is if you guys are okay with eating plants as well as killing anything you guys see

[oblique edge]

or finding a group in discord for herbivore herd

[rotund ibex]

Is there any thoughts on giving some small tiers ecosystem enhancing abilities just by doing what they normally do? For example, a minmi could dig underwater roots to eat and dislodge crabs or other food sources. This would make austroraptor and other small aquatics enjoy sticking close to a minmi, and the commotion could cause bigger semi aquatics to investigate, increasing the biodiversity all thanks to one minmi minding its business and eating some plants. This could make small tiers more popular playables

[silk iron]

i'd say cera for newbies though

or deino, if you wanna learn the game the hard way

[slow orchid]

can u say anything on what mechanics giga is gonna have like if its gonna be closer to allos pounce or if it can have a lung rip and tear

[indigo cave]

Brachi is 5 times heavier than rex mate. You are expecting two carnos/cera to kill a stego, that ain't happening in a million years

[stone tiger]

Aye when my friend and I played Dryo on yer server
We were hesitant to mix herd with 3 Stego. Thry could have save us from Troodons.

[digital tulip]

Oh I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the difficulty is going to go up.

[manic fulcrum]

🙏

[stone tiger]

Latch on mechanic is the key.

[silk iron]

no more.. 1000 rexes on every server..?

[indigo cave]

How tf is rex latching

[neon elk]

soon my friend

[oblique edge]

Stegos and trikes can't mixherd actually

[lost musk]

Am I the only one who thinks this?? Do things like beipi, dryo, ptera, take way too long to grow (or get to a near adult state) for what they’re worth?

[stone tiger]

We were Dryos

[silk iron]

i think they grow too fast, i enjoy being a baby beipi but i get big and long too fast

[oblique edge]

yeah but the stegos were stegos lol you can't mix herd with them https://jurassic-logs.app/group-limits

[zealous lantern]

There's no ceras available, so gonna give Carno a try 🤣

[grand grotto]

Kissen is that anti mixpacking thing still a thing?

[wraith hound]

i want you to tell me right now tho

[snow obsidian]

on regular growth it's a bit much yeah. even just like a x1.5** growth feels better

[manic fulcrum]

I think Herrera is a nice average for what it’s worth, though I personally don’t mind small animals growing long like they do rn because the fun in the game should be the journey not the destination. But I do acknowledge that growing a Dryosaurus for over an hour just to get sweeped off the floor isn’t fun

[crisp vector]

Diets

[lost musk]

But that’s when you’re useless and gameplay is the most discouraging to continue

You grow so long to die so fast

I think in that case there could be options for how to spawn, if you want to spawn as a late juvenile then you should be able to, but I don’t wanna grow 45 minutes to be a useless bird that contributes nothing to the game and does to a sneeze

I enjoy being a small useless creature, I don’t enjoy having my growth to take so long for being so useless or to lose it so fast

[stone tiger]

I know the group limit I am just telling you that they could have save us from the Troodons.

[neon elk]

SOON!

[silk iron]

no winning

[digital tulip]

When I say ambient creatures I mean the AI that is not in yet.

And it's important to remember that we don't prescribe to the "is useless or not" debates. That's between you guys in here. We make the species we're going to make whether they come off as "useful or useless" to people or not. BUT on that same note, you're specifically referring to two species that don't have all their mechanics. The beipi is still missing some functionality and the dryo is missing it's major feature. So it makes sense that those may feel underwhelming. And I do think the elder stuff is going to be getting tweaks in general.

[pliant birch]

progress

[stone tiger]

Allo King

[neon elk]

rats

[sour swan]

pregnant trees

[viral shale]

I do hope those elder tweaks come in the foreseeable future. The game feels more like a rush to get prime "quests" done rather than trying to survive atm.

[lost musk]

Herreras growth time is totally reasonable for what it can kill

Troodon too, I guess

But those actually get traction because they can DO something

Dryo, beipi, ptera

They grow for so long and they genuinely dont have anything to show for it. I enjoy being them but I don’t enjoy growing so long for them, or at least starting out so small, if we had an option to start out at a late-juvenile stage that’d be perfect

[grand grotto]

You should like get a accurate spino render since don sent the size comparison thingy and make some epic rex v spino stuffs (but spino wins ofc)

[analog turret]

My issue with small playables is that, at the moment, you get the exact same experience by playing any other animal during it's baby stages.
Without the small only mechanics they're very lacking

[clear iron]

Hi kissen

[stone tiger]

When it comes to burrowing what did you guys decide?
Seamless burrowing using negative spaces, nodes that cut into the map foil and let's you go under the map.
Or teleportation burrowing like in legacy?

[pliant birch]

I dont think you know, I only have access to the models in the files right now.

[analog turret]

Nothing to really KEEP you onto a small playables, outside of happening to like the animal

[silk iron]

i hope quetz idle sounds r similar to trees creaking

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-steamsad-depression-gif-16712269959651793493

[silk iron]

i am delusional but i am free

[analog turret]

it also doesn't help that the community at large is very Meta PVP fortnite brained

[digital tulip]

Gonna have to wait and seeeeeeeee

[snow obsidian]

it does feel pretty bad to get one-shot, period. like in any game, as anything. but after a certain point it's understandable with dinosaurs... you play something very small and weak in comparison. Its advantage is its size, in that you can be stealthier & maneuver better than the big stuff. It's a different challenge altogether, but I enjoy playing the little dinosaurs being able to watch the drama relatively unscathed bc I'm either not worth the chase or they never see me from the brush :^)

[manic fulcrum]

I wouldn’t mind shortening some growth if we got thresholds for elder requirements. So that specific requirements would have the amount needed of something based on your growth time)

Though tbf part of that is to ensure the playables DO have something to show for it

[stone tiger]

Thank you

[digital tulip]

I'm pretty excited for the burrows

[grand grotto]

Kissen how would cama headshot dmg work since head is very high up

[crisp vector]

Burrows will be peak for chill players

[vapid pumice]

beipi? missing functionality? is there any chance you could expand upon that? i believe its the first we've heard of that

[pastel sleet]

if its hit its hit of not its not

[bleak portal]

You an me both!

[silk iron]

flying galli kick 1 tap camara

[sour swan]

i think it wont and thats the point

[lost musk]

Ahhh alright that makes sense

And yeah I get your point, though it’d be nice to be able to start as a later juvie to feel capable at doing your cool thing earlier on without being a tiny juvie that can’t see above the grass

Though it does make me REALLY curious, what’s beipi missing?
Is it the cool cozy log sit from the concept art? Is it potentially the beaver dam concept…? Please kissen WE must hear

[analog turret]

I'd assume a lot of underwater interactivity with plants and stuff

[lost musk]

#general-feedback message

this would be SO AMAZING

[steel scaffold]

It is missing the pounce and grapple ability like the allosaurus

[lost musk]

One can dream, one can hope

Even if I know for certain it’s never gonna be a thing

[analog turret]

Smalls in general having more home building sorta mechanics would be cool

[silk iron]

i remember trying to draw this and artblock kicking me in the face

[lost musk]

Aw man 😔

[maiden wolf]

oil rig. off shore or on shore. i need it
here

[crisp vector]

Hypsi’s in trees and dryos under the ground

[silk iron]

i wonder if beipi will ever win a 1v1 against dryo

[manic fulcrum]

At least with dryo, it really does just need burrowing to feel complete & have an active gameplay to it

Hypsi just feels outdated. Its spit is counter productive to actually evading predators since it stops you in your tracks & it’s climbing is (while neat) rather unreliable and often gets you killed for trying to….climb/jump???? your way to safety

Beipi I feel suffers from wanting to be a small aggressive playable but isn’t able to do so due to its low health. Honestly I wouldn’t mind a Beipi upsize

[analog turret]

Pulling dragon's blood out of the earth and putting it in the atmosphere

[sour swan]

beipi should be able to eat compys

[neon elk]

what oil rig

[clear iron]

Top 1 pin/grapple hater

[vital onyx]

BURROWING TALK

[analog turret]

ngl I'd take smaller player numbers to accomodate more environmental interactivity

[maiden wolf]

human structure oil rigs :D

[snow obsidian]

maybe hypsi is supposed to climb something then spit & run?

[digital tulip]

The hypsi has more stuff coming too. I think we showed some stuff on that.

[lost musk]

Glass cannon beipi

Upsize would be nice, to be like 100-150kg. If dibble is twice the size why can’t beipi, and give it a defense buff when it’s wet and right out of the water

[maiden wolf]

cuz they are cool and

[fossil elbow]

Yeah I'd like this to be looked at as soon as possible as well

[clear iron]

The tree nests right?

[lost musk]

The tree nests are a really cool concept, excited to see more on them

But most of all I just wish to see it’s spit be relevant in the future and not a death wish to use

[stone tiger]

Close to this?

[digital tulip]

That's one of them.

[rotund ibex]

I feel like giving small small tiers passive ecosystem enhancing abilities like this can really make small tiers have a far greater impact in the game. Even though it doesn't directly benefit them, many bigger dinosaurs could be encouraged to hang around and even protect small tiers

[lost musk]

Oh okay interesting

[clear iron]

1 of them is there multiple🫢

[stone tiger]

Juvenile Omni can enter into Hypsi ground nest.

Is that intentional?

[crisp vector]

Last think we need is something that encourages more mix packing

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah the tree nesting iirc? But I more so mean that the way hypsi is designed doesn’t actually help it with evading predators. The climbing/leaping is fun but isn’t designed for vertical surfaces so you often bounce & fall to your death. The spit also just stops you in place so whatever is chasing you kills you anyways

Hence it feels outdated

[wide dock]

There will be different ones im guessing

[neon elk]

oh like the isle i think

[loud jay]

spit update?

[clear iron]

Yeah i Wonder what though

[stone tiger]

Mudpits that would swallow a Stego in whole

[neon elk]

Spiro tar pit tribal art...

[lost musk]

Honestly if they were really that expansive environmentally then it’d be cool to see how they change the ways that the larger creatures go about their day too

Maybe one day the larger inhabitants of the island could rely on the smallest

[manic fulcrum]

150kg Beipi, 250kg Elder Beipi

[misty pivot]

hi

[stone tiger]

Death by tar

[silk iron]

hi benon

[crisp vector]

Bring back massive elder beipi

[maiden wolf]

yea an in game oil rig maybe humans could take boats to them once they focus on water more add more species

[stone tiger]

Mud is lethal

[clear iron]

Though your profile pic was 2 cave Men fighting with a bloody spear for a second

[lost musk]

Peak, actually interesting dino

A symbiosis with deinosuchus would make it REALLY interesting to play

Beipi could attract prey and defend young deinosuchus from Austroraptor, and adult deinosuchus could defend beipis from baryonyx and let it live freely in the environment

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh even troodon kinda suffers from not being worth the growth since it’s Juvie is ABYSMALLY slow and weak that makes getting food even harder then Rex somehow

[lost musk]

Now who’s idea was it to have a big Dino party in the tar

[silk iron]

putting ur nest in a tar pit, peak comedy

[steel scaffold]

Unfortunately that’s all governed by player behaviour

[rotund ibex]

That's exactly what could make small tiers have a huge impact. They could enhance the ecosystem for higher tiers and it will trickle up to even the apex es who can visit the surge of dinosaurs all benefiting from small tiers living their lives. I wonder if the devs have looked into something like that for small tiers.

[viral shale]

A very bad host

[clear iron]

Hit reverse with the food drains rex food drain to 10min and troodon to 1h

[manic fulcrum]

The introduction of snails & rats could hopefully let Juvie troodon & Herrera especially get reliable food

[lost musk]

Imagine, Tyrannosaurus the tyrant king relying on a beipiaosaurus 🔥

[stone tiger]

A lot of corpses and animals who died eating from the corpses

[lost musk]

The snails will outrun them at the speed they spawn in 😂

[manic fulcrum]

[clear iron]

🐌

[manic fulcrum]

Like Juvie respawns in ready to hunt chickens and within an hour deer

Juvie troodon has to suffer to even CATCH UP to a chicken

[lost musk]

A bunch of tiny ai just for ambience and not necessarily food that spawn close range and despawn shortly after would be really nice

[manic fulcrum]

Kinda baffles me how growing Troodon is arguably harder than Rex

Rex’s growth is long but far from hard

Troodon has short but hard growth

[lost musk]

Honestly just let small tiers able to spawn in at 30-40% instead of 25%

They’re able to actually hunt a little, move around, unlock their gimmick earlier and actually be viable early on, I think that’d fix evertt out big

[viral shale]

I get more anxious scavenging as troodon than rex

[manic fulcrum]

Just change the growth curve so they stay small for a longer period of time. Then near sub they can skyrocket into capable hunters

[manic fulcrum]

Or tbh just spawn them in at larger sizes at 25%

[rotund ibex]

This is exactly what beipi needs. Keep damage and speed the same, just increase the weight to be above 1 bite for cera/carno tiers

[manic fulcrum]

What does Troodon spawn in at? Like 5kg?

[lost musk]

That doesn’t change them being useless as soon as they spawn in, they can’t even catch diet to grow further

[clear iron]

I think its less tbh

[lost musk]

Spawns in below 1kg iirc but idk

Definitely not 5kg tho

[manic fulcrum]

If you adjusted the growth curve so that they spawn in at let’s say 20kg (the other weight would go towards hatchling stage), their speed curve would have to naturally follow and therefor give them enough to at least reliably hunt small Ai

it still baffles me that we can let Juvie gali be adult speed but not troodon

[rotund ibex]

Troodon growth is not hard per se, just kinda rng. Hope you get lucky and find a corpse or dead ai

You could kill deer as fresh spawn troodon technically, but have to do it very carefully

[manic fulcrum]

Like make Juvie troodon spawn at 20kg, change their spawns to be around psitaco. They would make excellent use of Psitaco

And by that I mean don’t spawn me on the other side of swamp that has no psitaco

[silk iron]

best way to start on a troo is get a spawn on a beach where crabs spawn

[glad oxide]

does anyone know when the quetz will roughly be added?

[lost musk]

That’d be great

You also get access to venom much sooner which allows you to be viable in the sanctuary after 10 minutes

[void marlin]

2027-2028 with luck

[rotund ibex]

I wonder what other things the devs have planned for Beipi. Beipi being boosted to 250 kg and water environment being improved would already improve it a lot, but kinda curious what more they have planned for it

[manic fulcrum]

I still think juvies should have venom off the go, with limitations to how much they can envenomate till 50% where the chains go

[glad oxide]

💔

[lost musk]

Yeah thatd be awesome

[rotund ibex]

Yea beach troodon is easiest for me. Can even kill sea turtles, and compies can spawn near dead ai

[manic fulcrum]

I just really hope this year is all about ensuring the QOL of what we already have rather than continuously adding more stuff. Unless said stuff is necessary for QOL

[lost musk]

Complete luck still

You have to hope you get to a beach and then find a turtle and then kill it and hope through all that you haven’t gone infertile

[rotund ibex]

No one knows, but people hope it may be end of this year. But that's just a guess and not confirmed in any way whatsoever

[lost musk]

The year of playables btw

[wooden marsh]

I've never killed a single ai in the game

[glad oxide]

damn thats so annoying I was hoping for it to be in like 3-5 months

[rotund ibex]

Yea which is why I said troodon growth isn't really hard, just mostly RNG. Which I don't like

[manic fulcrum]

I could give too hoots about playables, I just want the migration zones to actually migrate

[lost musk]

Austro bary kentro quetz potentially even para or Cama

Idk how much QoL can be smushed in there

[manic fulcrum]

You fool

[rotund ibex]

3-5 months seems more like the time frame for kentro, bary, and Austro hordetest. Maybe oviraptor would be after, and then later would be quetz and camara. So I wouldn't bet that quetz would be within 5 months

[manic fulcrum]

YOU DIDNT EVEN MENTION OVI & AVA

(I can see us getting Quetz before Cama at end of year)

[clever spear]

foxhole? in my islecord?

[glad oxide]

:<< damn that sucks quetz is the one I wanna play the mostt

[lost musk]

HOW COULD I FORGET

[manic fulcrum]

Maybe it’s just me but I think this big bugfix patch is gonna be pushed WITH HT, rather than before it

[glacial panther]

yay bug fixes!

[lost musk]

That’d be.. awful..

Let’s have the main branch that’ll stay for another 5 months at least while this HT goes on reman buggy!!

[rotund ibex]

Deinocheirus is what I want to play the most. And if a quetz wants to drink at my deinocheirus's pond, it better bring an offering or else water will be denied

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-gif-25854132

[glad oxide]

gulp noted

[glacial panther]

I bring… lung!

[lost musk]

Gosh darn it don’t you get it YOURE THE OFFERING

[glacial panther]

oh……

I bring… smaller quetz!
sacrifice

[lost musk]

But your organs give more than the smaller quetz

Your offering should be bigger than you visually

[glacial panther]

oh……
prime elder rex.

[rotund ibex]

Kissen mentioned that deinocheirus is not slated to come soon after spinosaurus. So sad ):
At this rate, deinocheirus will be like 2028 or 2029 or something

[lost musk]

Good offering, youll be spared

But wait

They only mentioned quetz, not dinos in general

Maybe they have a craving

[glacial panther]

oh no…

[manic fulcrum]

It’s prob far down the list

[neon elk]

yay

[glacial panther]

ok ok

what if, I bring many smaller quetz

[rotund ibex]

That is a travesty

[lost musk]

I’ve had to wait 8 years for Austroraptor since I first found the isle

[glacial panther]

Im ngl i joined then in like 2023? 2024? I went “eh i should have a playable I make the people think im crazy for” and bam
Quetz.

[manic fulcrum]

Personally what I wanna see after Spino as our next batch of 8 is:

alberto
anky
theri
sucho
mono
minmi
proto
megalania

[glacial panther]

Megalania? Really? That’s curious
What makes you think meg

[rotund ibex]

You need to bring a minmi and let it fall into my pond. Then I'll chill with the minmi while you drink

[neon elk]

minmi...

[lost musk]

Very good list

Wheres magy

[manic fulcrum]

Another venomous animal, a tracker even

[glacial panther]

I see…

[wraith hound]

i read sucho i am pleased

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

[wraith hound]

do you like minmi ?

[still umbra]

DEMON

[still umbra]

no

[neon elk]

yes

[wraith hound]

xD

[rotund ibex]

I wonder if Quetzalcoatlus will be able to non-lethally, forcefully relocate small dinosaurs. That would be amazing. Obviously have a time limit to not hold them hostage.
But would be amazing for a quetz to just pick up a dryosaurus, fly to the top of a mountain, and leave the dryosaurus to have to rock climb down. Or supply drop it into the middle of a lake

[lost musk]

I am indifferent

[still umbra]

yes

[lost musk]

Rex doesn’t have a time limit

It just has no choice but to kill them

[manic fulcrum]

It’s called flying over them. The dryo leaves

[rotund ibex]

How is deinocheirus not part of this list? Especially considering how it should have one of the best interactions with Spino

[lost musk]

[wraith hound]

okay but like, i was not asking you

[manic fulcrum]

There’s other stuff I think needs to come first, primarily burrowers & filling out the larger animals

[still umbra]

you did ask me

[rotund ibex]

It would be cool if quetz has a choice between lethal and nonlethal and can forcefully relocate dinosaurs. Just like, hey little Dryo, a carno is stalking you, let me pick you up and drop you off across the river

[manic fulcrum]

You could prob swap out sucho for Cheirus though sucho I think has waited too long

[wraith hound]

you are delusional

[ashen flower]

Com on bring spino in game

[lost musk]

SO. THE QUESTION REMAINS.. the legacy of pet or rivalry remains, just as was once done with dilophosaurus and troodon, repeats once again

WILL PTERANADON AND QUETZALCOATLUS find harmony and companionship within their similarities, or aggression and rivalry through their competition?

[tawdry ermine]

no but, you did ask him

[manic fulcrum]

I feel like Ptera is gonna be too little of a snack for a Quetz to care

[wraith hound]

harmony, whats that ?

[lost musk]

I think with troo and dilo it was aggression and violence

[wraith hound]

no i asked Lightclaw

[unkempt bolt]

I would love to hunt pt’s and I would be to be hunted as pt

[still umbra]

but you asked me

[tawdry ermine]

but the name lightclaw is so close to bumpy so he thought you asked him

[lost musk]

You say that but 13 ton deinosuchus still readily eat freshspawn beipis for god knows why

[rotund ibex]

Altruistic Quetzal would be amazing haha. Of course you can also be nightmare quetzal, just depending on how the quetz feels that day

[wraith hound]

well then he's wrong

[neon elk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1164393584380874823/the-isle-gif-6.gif

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/unusual-whales-unusual-whales-eat-money-gif-22693447

[tawdry ermine]

yeah im stealing this LOL

[neon elk]

why

[lost musk]

This is the equivalent of someone playing gta technically

[tawdry ermine]

bc yoink

[neon elk]

but why

[neon elk]

how is that possible

[lost musk]

Fat carno

[neon elk]

no because i am not in the america

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-glow-glowsticks-rave-gif-4869514

[manic fulcrum]

Also, since we know Ptera will be getting an upsize to fit its ground kit….why not buff up hypsi & Beipi (troodon is fine at 60kg imo)

Make beipi 150kg & Hypsi 40kg

[neon elk]

do you like party

[wraith hound]

no..

[rotund ibex]

Beipi definitely needs an upsize, enough to make its 3 call carry weight rather than just being for show. I love its 3 call, but then after using it and dying in one bite to a cera/carno, feels bad

[manic fulcrum]

Nah it does. Because it’s small size doesn’t fit its playstyle of wanting to fend off predators by slapping them. Which is meaningless if it’s the size of a walnut

[wraith hound]

because its the way i feel

[manic fulcrum]

Beipi would 100% benefit from an upsize to fit its ground kit”FIGHT ME RAAAAAAA” playstyle

[neon elk]

WHAT

[wraith hound]

what ?

[manic fulcrum]

And Hypsi upsize….really just so it gives more of a reliable food source to Herrera

[neon elk]

hi!

[wraith hound]

oh hello

[rotund ibex]

Exactly. Make it 2 to 3 bites for a Cera, and keep damage/bleed and speed the same. Would be perfect. Now you can reliably harass a Cera/carno or lighter predator that is drinking in your river. And if it decides to keep drinking, you can give it some decent bleed. Then you can heal the bite you tanked and go back to driving off the predator.

[manic fulcrum]

Why does it need to fight off CERATO????

[lost musk]

PLEASE BRO

I think a hypsis spit should be more effective too

Stomach acid could permanently damage your eyes in theory, and hypsi could even have a property of having a more concentrated acid with lower ph, or even eat plants that increase the effect, Idk just spitballing

Regardless spit should be easier to use and have a more lingering effect to small tiers enough for the hypsi to flee or fight off a small threat, or maybe even a trio should absolutely be able to beat up a troodon and be lethal to one

Not like the hypsi is faster than a cerato, whatever’s harassed can just leave.

[rotund ibex]

I'm not saying to win a cerato. I'm saying to survive 1 bite against cerato.

[manic fulcrum]

I more so mean stuff in the future like austro & mono

[lost musk]

I think it should be able to fight off an Omni-dilo stuff in that range and below

[steel scaffold]

This is like wanting Omni to survive being bit by Rex ngl

[rotund ibex]

So if the cerato keeps coming back to drink in your spot, you can slap it in the face once or twice every few minutes and eventually make the cerato decide to drink elsewhere

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/disagree-with-you-yeah-office-gif-17499674493888208961

[rotund ibex]

Nah, I disagree

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh Omni isn’t too out of the picture. But dilo yeah no

[lost musk]

Why not? Mono isn’t far off from that range

And it’s not like it’ll be killing them, just a GET OUTTA MY SWAMP

[manic fulcrum]

I mean if austro is let’s say 275kg, Mono 350kg. Making beipi 150kg wouldn’t be terrible

[lost musk]

Give it a water splash attack that blinds enemies on its way out of the water so it can claw them and retreat back into the water to do it again

[rotund ibex]

Like how you suggested. 250 kg elder beipi is perfect. That lets it survive one bite against cerato or smaller predators. So it can give one slap to these smaller predators and then retreat. Not actually pose a real threat to the cerato, but enough to deter the cerato from drinking too often in the same spot near a beipi

[lost musk]

Imagine a splash attack doing the front stun animation to stuff as big as an Omni lmao

[lost musk]

Yess that I do agree with definitely

Literally doesn’t harm anyone either, just makes a less popular forgotten species more fun

[fossil elbow]

mono needs to either be able to fend off or be faster to escape an omni I think

[vapid pumice]

how would it stop them if they know youre now just 1 bite away from death

just bite again

[lost musk]

Sneeze n dash

Let’s just hope it doesn’t have to very precisely aim its snotgun like hypsi

[fossil elbow]

that'll really depend on how effective the snot cannon is as a defensive tool

[manic fulcrum]

Like I understand animals being small and not intended to fight often

But is it too much to ask for a beipi to defend itself more to literally fit its playstyle

[lost musk]

If it’s really as stinky and as disorienting as in the concept art, I hope it’ll be able to stun and throw you off your path as well as just make it more difficult to do whatever it is you’re trying to do, would make sense if it blinded you for a bit

[lost musk]

I really don’t see why everything small and non-carnivorous having to depend on being not a fighter

Combat focused beipi completely makes sense if theri is that way

It’s literally a smaller theri that can swim

[manic fulcrum]

Yup.

[lost musk]

Dryo makes complete sense to be able to stand up to its own tier and win via kung fu fights too

I mean it won’t always be a flee Dino when it has to defend the burrow it spent 30 minutes on

[manic fulcrum]

Like dryo I can understand. It’ll have burrowing as its escape tool

Beipi is literally BUILT TO SLASH

[lost musk]

It’s literally a kangaroo give it kicks!

[fossil elbow]

a blind/stun followed by making your scent not work right for a minute or so would be pretty cool

[peak vigil]

Hypsi watching Mono get a better blind projectile than it

[vapid pumice]

tbf doesnt dryo already do pretty well against animals in its tier?

[lost musk]

From what we’ve been hinted burrows will be enterable by most things that can realistically fit

That means stuff like Herreras too

[vapid pumice]

mobile versions of the kick would be good though

[rotund ibex]

Let's say the beipi is eating plants on land and an aggro cera comes and chases it to the water. Now if the Cera wants to drink in the area and the beipi is 250 kg (but same damage/bleed as rn), the beipi can come out and slap it in the face once or twice and probably take one bite. If the Cera has vomit, then yea the beipi dies. But if it doesn't, then the beipi loses more than half hp and retreats. Beipi health regen is super fast, so if this aggro cera decides to stay in the area, and comes back to drink again, the beipis already healed and ready to give it another slap in the face and so on. Until eventually the cera gets annoyed and leaves to drink somewhere else. So the beipi isn't actually realistically fighting the cera. Just being enough of a nuisance to say "get out of my swamp" like Shrek. And of course the cera can fight back and pretend to drink or vomit the beipi and kill it.

[manic fulcrum]

Also I’m just gonna say it. I think for the sake of the health of the game Omni’s pin range needs to be standardized to 50% like Allo

& grapple needs to move from 101% to like 200%

[lost musk]

Only if you’re literally cracked like me and you need a LOT of space to dodge and twist and turn

In a burrow there’s nothing for that

[manic fulcrum]

Ya ya nerf to raptor. But has anyone ever enjoyed raptor pin being its own size

[lost musk]

Please man I don’t like how pin is right now for Omni

And I think pin in general should be more of an execution tool than a kill tool

[vapid pumice]

just turn around and tail slap the herrera a few times

if oingo boingo can do it in a sanctuary, im sure people can do it in a burrow

[manic fulcrum]

Yes

[hot grotto]

does bucking not work while walking?

[lost musk]

But yes I totally agree with pin threshold 50% for Omni

[peak vigil]

As much as I’d love to give dryo a better mobile attack it is one of those animals that is REALLY not meant to be a fighter so I’d rather it keep getting more mobility related stuff (like the spring boarding they teased a while ago)

[manic fulcrum]

The Cerato could also alt bite and instantly kill it

[vapid pumice]

or just charge bite for .2 seconds and kill it

unless they fixed cera charge bite reaching max damage incredibly quickly

[manic fulcrum]

To the head

[lost musk]

More opportunity for skill with similar sized opponents

You can be the most CRACKED Omni player ON EARTH

And still lose to a literal newbie on his first day on the game because he pressed rmb first

What a joke

[manic fulcrum]

I lowkey understand Pinslop MORE for Omni than I do Allo

Like Allo can only pin 50% of its weight. Omni can pin 100%

[silk iron]

i think i just witnessed a trike kill another trike for carnos to eat

[vapid pumice]

it is so

[lost musk]

Like yeah it’s not as problematic for small tiers when omni does it but it still sucks

[rotund ibex]

Yea, which is why the beipi does surprise attacks during Cera drinking animation. Just barely enough for the beipi to be a tiny nuisance to an aggro cera/carno or lower. And a bigger nuisance to stuff like mono

[manic fulcrum]

A Cerato really isn’t gonna care though

[upper scaffold]

should i try bite stags and boars as a troodon?

[quaint tide]

hi everyone

[silk iron]

its the ragebait aspect that matters

[graceful imp]

Me and a friend have just got this! we are both from EU but when looking for server it comes up with China or US.. how do i find a decent EU server

[fossil elbow]

preach

[rotund ibex]

Yep, it should kill beipi in one bite if it charge bites a little, alt bites, or vomits the beipi. But a normal, non vomit bite, should leave the 250 kg beipi with just enough wiggle room to be a tiny, angry, slashing nuisance to an aggro cera

[lost musk]

There just needs to be more ways for self preservation that isn’t just “will I win or not”

Should be “is this worth it or not”

If there was something like infections after dangerous fights players would pick things more wisely even if they can very clearly win

But idk if that’s reasonable

[vapid pumice]

nuisance is a bit of an overexaggeration i cant lie

[fossil elbow]

I've always hated omni's pin but seems like people completely overlooked it until allo and rex showed up able to do similar

[manic fulcrum]

I think this is the idea for stuff like glass bones. The problem is it’s implemented horribly

[peak vigil]

You should DEFINITELY attack the cerato that stopped to get a drink at your river, its gonna be really funny trust me

https://youtu.be/4ExPMbykU7c?si=xSR08Z55mNq1vgUU

[lost musk]

Very horribly

[rotund ibex]

Tiny was an adjective for nuisance, not for the beipi. Tiny nuisance

[vapid pumice]

even then, it is entirely ignorable

both the cerato and beipi know the beipi isnt actually doing anything meaningful lol

[lost musk]

@manic fulcrum ik it’s irrelevant now but troo spawns 1.8 kgs

[vapid pumice]

"oh, interesting. i got hit by a beipi"

continue drinking

[rotund ibex]

I mean more for dumb aggro ceratos that chase a beipi and then go drink. If the beipi can keep hitting the cerato while it drinks, then the beipi can actually make the cerato relocate. But that is assuming cerato player is inexperienced, has no vomit, is drinking, etc. But just gives beipi a tiny sliver of being annoying to cerato if it can survive one bite against cerato. Being two bites for cerato instead of one is enough for a beipi to mess around with ceratos a little. Not kill them or hurt them much or anything. Just mess with them

[rotund ibex]

All I'm saying is, going from one shot to two shot is a huge difference and can completely change how beipi interacts with cerato or carno. Overwhelming odds are for the cerato, but it just gives a tiny opportunity for interaction that doesn't exist right now because beipi is 90 kg and one shot.

[neon elk]

what am i saying?

[vapid pumice]

but its not actually changing. beipi is still just as much of a non issue for them as they were before, and beipi gets to have a playstyle you frankly can already get away with if you're decent at dodging attacks

[merry whale]

haven't been following the game for a while, any news of what they're currently working on for the upcoming hordetest?

[peak vigil]

I’d love a heavier beipi, even if its just the elder, but the argument for it should be how it’d be able to bettet interact with other smalls and not how it can ragebait ceratos lol

[lost musk]

Give Troodon a second wind mechanic please

Able to survive a fatal hit up to 3x your health with a body fracture and 1% hp, but only if you’re above 50% health

Would be so peak

[vapid pumice]

^

weight buff is fine, but expecting it to meaningfully change interactions between itself and an animal 15x its size... eh

[chilly harbor]

❌

[lost musk]

✅

[vapid pumice]

this just feels like a POT ability

oh wait, it is

[chilly harbor]

You're a one tap animal for a reason 😼

[rotund ibex]

With how desync is, there is a huge difference between being one shot and two shot. Same play style, much less risk to lose 1 hr of growth

[lost musk]

I knoww

But troo could benefit it for a reason

[vapid pumice]

... why would we make it less risky for beipi to attack animals 15x its own size? this just sounds like a way for beipi to be allowed to make wreckless plays without actually being punished for it

[peak vigil]

No that’s for hypsi

[merry whale]

make troodons collect carrots and tell outdated celebrity jokes

[vapid pumice]

like an easter bunny, but after 20 years in hollywood

[neon elk]

tail wip

[silk iron]

make em paranoid

[lost musk]

Desync is a big issue for troo and is one of the most discouraging things about it

Thisd help, and you only survive up to 180 damage, not like you’d live a Rex bite

[spark loom]

when and what dinosaurs do they plan on adding soon?

[tight lynx]

Make Beipi use its claws to scale the sides of waterfalls instead of going around

[silk iron]

ive scared this rex into running into the forest

[rotund ibex]

I was just replying to how someone suggested 250 kg elder beipi. That alone could make a beipi interact with ceratos how it couldn't before. Just showing that if it is no longer one shot, a beipi can do something against an inexperienced cerato blindly drinking. Not much, but if the cerato keeps letting itself get clawed by the beipi, it will eventually notice and then have to stop drinking to focus on the beipi or just go somewhere else to drink. So nothing threatening to the cerato, just a tiny mix up of a currently, non existent interaction. Just showing how going from one bite to two bites makes a difference

[neon elk]

remember when elders were old

[lost musk]

Genuinely not even that bad of an idea if it could use its claws to help scale rough terrain

[lilac hawk]

i need auto walk in this game im way to lazy to hold w

[merry whale]

be weary of an old beipi where beipis die young

[vapid pumice]

bars

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-angry-gods-adventure-time-jake-adventure-time-jake-the-dog-jake-angry-gif-12555746965887914949

[rotund ibex]

I'm talking about hypothetical 250 kg beipi. Cerato is only 6x size of that, which is in a size range of feasible interaction but very one-sided for the ceratos favor. Just brings some interaction where 90 kg has almost no room for interaction without being completely reckless and willing to die in one bite

[trail shard]

https://tenor.com/view/no-jake-adventure-time-screaming-terrified-gif-14011562081151182375

[peak vigil]

I’m not against the idea of ragebaiting the cerato, I’ve always been that kind of ptera player

I’m just saying that the idea of buffing beipi’s size is a lot more convincing when you talk about the improvements to its interactions with other small animals rather than how it’d let it do goofier things

[fierce pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-window-adventure-time-coffee-gif-7617972424459303802

[rotund ibex]

I'm not talking about 90 kg beipi. Was just theorizing what a 250 kg beipi could get away with, which would be fun but dumb and risky interactions with a Cera. Of course the more meaningful interactions for a 250 kg beipi would be for stuff below dilo weight.

[fierce pendant]

Is playing Petra actually viable or are you just a flying snack waiting to land

[wheat moth]

What do you mean by "viable"?

[rotund ibex]

I agree. I wasn't debating the best reasons to buff beipi weight. I was just having an outlandish example of.what a 250 kg beipi can do

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dance-happy-dance-baryonyx-gif-20443046

[fierce pendant]

Like can you actually fight anything or you just dead meat to anything on land

[lilac hawk]

how long does deino stay alive with n owater

[peak vigil]

You can absolutely survive and have some fun if you’re not the kind of person that lives and dies by pvp

But personally I’d wait for the rest of its rework to come out before diving into it

[wide dock]

Why? Would a beipi anything? The game is survival not pvp simulator

[wheat moth]

Oh, you can absolutely hunt things. Bees don't attack you at the sanctuaries, and juvie hunting is something I do to pass the time.

[fierce pendant]

I know it's not a PvP sim but a carni still needs to hunt lol

[wide dock]

Dont understand why yall want a beipi to take on omnis and dilos or even troodons u are a historic duck nothing special

[vapid pumice]

pteranodon is like, the one carnivore that will literally never have to hunt actual players

[wide dock]

Beipi eats meat other than fish and crabs? Its a serious question

[silk iron]

beipi should have a chance to win the 1v1 against a dryo, all i want

[vapid pumice]

10 minutes, same as everything else

this also applies to an empty stomach

[fierce pendant]

Ah okay is rework meant to drop with quetz?

[wide dock]

Besides if yes beipi is supposed to hunt in water like croc, so in that case we need more water life not buffs

[lilac hawk]

ohh okay ty

[wheat moth]

Beipi can gut a carno.... if it goes for a dip.

[vapid pumice]

half of the rework is already in, and we can probably expect the other half to come within the next HT

[fierce pendant]

Ah okay Ty

[peak vigil]

We don’t know, its been a constant work in progress for a while now

Its flight changed a lot and you can now use spear fishing to make small fish and clams spawn for you to eat

[vapid pumice]

but even then, you probably wont be hunting thaaaat much. youre still a pteranodon at the end of the day

[fierce pendant]

So can you dive into the water with Petra or do you just do it on the shore?

[wide dock]

Isnt bary supposed to habe that as well?

[vapid pumice]

austro is confirmed to have it, dunno about bary but i think kissen has hinted at it?

[lost musk]

Idk man I like the idea of small tier hunter ptera

A glass cannon in a way

[cobalt basin]

5 mins xD hi Jason

[vapid pumice]

which it probably will be. just dont be expecting to take down a fully grown omniraptor or a 400kg dilo on the ground

or honestly, probably much over 250kg lol

[peak vigil]

More like a glass knife 😭

[lilac hawk]

oh im so dead

[wide dock]

More like a baby hunter like troo unless u a full flock of pt maybe like 8-10 then maybe be able to take on subs of carnos and other mid/small tiers

[wheat moth]

90kg adult ptera (if it actually happens) actually having the stats for a rivalry with troodon will be

[vapid pumice]

i do think they should lighten up on PT's peck knockdown though, atleast for things under 60kg. i... dont like how attacking a larger pt in the air makes you fall out of the sky lol

[vapid pumice]

SUBS OF CARNOS???

[lost musk]

Well yeah not THAT much

[lost musk]

You don’t think troo is JUST a baby hunter do you

[rotund ibex]

Ptera used to be pretty nice for fly by pecks, enough to make some dinosaurs run to the trees

[wide dock]

It is, as i said if in a pack then no but if not then yes

[chilly harbor]

elder troodon is a dilo hunter

[vapid pumice]

its so peak. soloing dilos will never get old

[chilly harbor]

LOOL yeah

adult is as well but they usually just dip

[vapid pumice]

damn them and their long legs

[vapid pumice]

i wonder, would congen + elder damage resistence technically be enough to survive a bodyshot from an adult dilo?

[lost musk]

I don’t like how they went with that at all

Instead of fully knocking you out of the sky, it should’ve done the knock out thing from hitting an object midair, that way you could recover with space

The recovery period which limits your control heavily would’ve been a good defense on its own, meaning that if you tried to peck anything by a cliff side, you’d inevitably crash into the cliff recovering

Would’ve been a wonderful way to go about it, that way flocks can still harass stuff away from corpses or an area and hunt smaller prey, but once the prey is in a good defensive position the flock has to pull back

[lost musk]

Barely

But you’ll die to venom

[vapid pumice]

if the clones decide to work that day

[chilly harbor]

ways to escape though

[manic fulcrum]

Buff it

[lost musk]

Genuinely if they just spawned at 15-20 kg that’d be perfect

All small tiers for that matter should spawn in larger so that it’s more fair with how the bigger tiers spawn, makes small tiers less frustrating to grow and feel better to play

[manic fulcrum]

20kg spawn Troodon let’s see it

[rotund ibex]

At the very least, a fresh spawn troodon shouldn't lose to a chicken in a race

[manic fulcrum]

By chance do you know herreras

[lost musk]

Beipi instead of spawning 2kg could spawn in 30

[silk iron]

playin with fire

[manic fulcrum]

Upsize beipi: upsize Juvie

[rotund ibex]

But baby beipi is so cute

And sanctuary mushrooms makes it get to 30 kg very fast

[manic fulcrum]

Model would be the same, it would just be slightly bigger

[vapid pumice]

i think it should make people fat like how BOB has obesity

[manic fulcrum]

YEA

[vapid pumice]

did anyone else think rex would get some form of omnidirectional movement when rex sparring was first mentioned all those years ago

[rotund ibex]

Rex moonwalking? Sounds fun

[vapid pumice]

not to the same degree as diablo but something similar in terms of how it is used

[lost musk]

I wasn’t counting on it but I wouldn’t have been surprised

[lost musk]

Have it be an option

Spawn as a baby baby or big baby

[vapid pumice]

it didnt really register in my mind that it wasnt the same type of sparring until it was mentioned a few months before rex HT lol

i guess i never gave it much thought

[lost musk]

Boss baby mode for April fools so that you can grow and get your adult morph and calls and skin and everything but still be freshspawn sized

[rotund ibex]

Rex v trike sparring feels weird at the moment. Rex too recklessly can get away with going head first into trike horns

[lost musk]

Yeah that sucks

[rotund ibex]

Like if they want Rex to bite trike horns and lock into sparring, I feel that once that happens, the trike should be at an advantage and be able to pull its horn out and jam the Rex. But if it messes up, then the Rex can punish and sideswipe and bite the trike

[manic fulcrum]

This year I just wanna see the aspects of the game improved
1: make larger animals growth harder, but a slightly easier life for juvies all around with sanctuary ai.
2: Fix & improve MZ’s/PZ’s.
3: Improve the playables that need it.
4: Make diet lists make sense/dynamic diet changes with growth
5: improving old mechanics (flesh chunk grabbing could use an update as the current version often causes too many bugs). Just give us an organ wheel to auto generate the things rather than some dynamic pickup system that breaks every update

So on so forth

[rotund ibex]

Trike head on sparring seems too heavily Rex favored

[manic fulcrum]

Push out the new content almost ready for HT, finish it off, push to main branch. Then fix the game

[rotund ibex]

Fix press E and press g interactions. They are even more buggy than they used to be for some things like gastroliths, water, nest sticks, and gali foraging

[stone stag]

That was me😅😅✌️

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah I’d rather have an organ wheel than having to manually take out EVERY SINGLE ORGAN

same for meat chunks. Lemme choose to pick the organ or meat chunk

[vapid pumice]

i wish we could just... open a body, start eating, and auto-eat the organs first before starting on the meat

[manic fulcrum]

I guarantee that’s what causes so many bugs related to organs & flesh chunks

[rotund ibex]

And let troodon drag out big organs or go inside and eat organs straight from the body without taking them out

[manic fulcrum]

Yes the fact that organs weigh as much as they do is a bit ridiculous

Just decrease organ weight

[rotund ibex]

Troodon packs are supposed to hunt big herbis, but then can't even eat the organs after they kill one

[manic fulcrum]

Just let things drag flesh chunks/organs

[silk iron]

😭

im enjoying starting fights, i wanted to see the allo go for the nearby stego though

[tiny rose]

Every herbo player deserves to go to HELL!!!

[silk iron]

average pachy victim

[tiny rose]

No way, how did you know?)))))

[silk iron]

they're the usual suspect of aggro herbi

[stone stag]

Got a couple of chomps in, then i took one and dipped😭

[silk iron]

happens to us all

[narrow lodge]

Is there a looking for group channel in here?

[tiny rose]

I see a 50% Allow running away and before I know it, this DEMON just runs at me from 100 meters away just for the fun of it...

[vapid pumice]

my favorite thing to do is pteranodon is be the worlds most annoying vulture ever

oh, you have a body i want? im going to circle you and your group for the next 10 minutes spam 1 calling until you leave so i can have it

nothing strikes fear into people like the idea that i might be a scout

[silk iron]

ive literally just been picking one dino and hovering over them to spam 1 call, not for food, just to be annoying

[vapid pumice]

this is the way

cause their downfall, attract the allos and rexes

[silk iron]

i did make a rex think i was a scout

[silk iron]

i attracted some dilos to an allo peak

[indigo cave]

Actual number 1. Fix bugs and performance issues 🥲

[manic fulcrum]

Yes

Everything is equally important

[silk iron]

stressing out the local omni pack, life is good

[lament beacon]

How to aim with ptera bro

I can't hit nothin

[ivory sand]

hello did Kissen talk about Cama?

[silk iron]

idk man i dont do pt pvp

[slow lintel]

is eberyone alibe?

[lethal elm]

Pretty eager to try out Austro I also realize that ptera's rework is more likely than not to be in the next hordetest too.

[normal flume]

🙂

Manifesting Alberto in a few years....

[craggy ridge]

Only thing stopping Dibbles from being just as over aggro is the fact that they don't have the raw speed to catch anything

[silk iron]

never stopped me

[craggy ridge]

Oh you monster

[spark loom]

when and what dinosaurs do they plan on adding soon?

[silk iron]

how did you do that

i aspire to do this

[craggy ridge]

When? Austro Hordetest is expected sometime Q2 or Q3 of the year. Its possible we may see Bary and even Kentro with Austro. If not, they're surely following

[silk iron]

gang war!!

immediate friendly fire from the omnis side

i have NOT seen this LMAO

it seems.. the omnis lost the gang war

[wind acorn]

Me every time I see some kid trying to dress like a gangster

[wind acorn]

Lol

[cinder cave]

Infinite owl reaction images

[stone tiger]

I wish Trex could knock down trees

Omnis and Pachies and Herreras would not F call anymore

It would be a funny
Large animals knocking down trees with small animals on them

[tiny rose]

Holy sh8T 8th Pachy death in a row, WILL THE DEVS NERF THIS THING? At any size if it the same or 5% bigger, you are DEAD.

[stone tiger]

What

[silk iron]

what server are you on to have the pachy mafia after you 😭

[stone tiger]

Your deaths are not worthless

Other players will eat the body of you pachy left behind

[tiny rose]

Petits, I kid you not 8 death IN A ROW to them

[silk iron]

oh yeah, petits has hyper aggro herbis all through it

[stone tiger]

Pachycephalosaurus

[neon elk]

ikarop

[stone tiger]

That's a long name

[tiny rose]

where do I play then? The other one that is recommended ?

[silk iron]

pachy is just a dino you gotta be aggro on, its got a low health pool

[stone tiger]

The longest dinosaurs name is
Micropachycephalosaurus

Micro Pachy

[wooden marsh]

It also helps going into the water if you are running away from it

[silk iron]

true, pachys swim really slow and cant use their headbutt in water

[sterile gulch]

Guys, imagine the number of bugs we're going to have fixed.

[silk iron]

like...a hundred

[wooden marsh]

When?

[sterile gulch]

Soon

[gentle idol]

evrima sucks ahh

[silk iron]

thats wonderful man

[gentle idol]

ty just thought I should provide that information

[silk iron]

anything else you'd like to share with the class

[gentle idol]

legacy better I fear

[silk iron]

i see i see

[manic fulcrum]

I hope we get all 3 of austro, Kentro & bary in this HT

[cursive rampart]

Hopefully

[tiny rose]

is Petits just busted on rules? Why is there a 40% Raptor in sanc?

well not a Pachy death at least...

[cursive rampart]

Hoping for Ovi before the middle of the year

[manic fulcrum]

There’s no rule against going to sanctuaries on petits

[tiny rose]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

[manic fulcrum]

I’m hoping all 3 by end of May, Ovi & Ava by end of September, Quetz by end of year

That’s my prediction

[silk iron]

petits has a TON of sanctuary campers, they only get kicked out at 50% and even then you'll run into fully grown dinos camping the sancs still

[rapid tangle]

Plus not every part of a sanctuary conjures swarms of bees to attack larger dinos

[midnight kernel]

Petis has a built in bot that will drain your hunger and thirst rapidly if you are not meant to be in a sanc

[manic fulcrum]

I think quetz is gonna come out sooner than Cama tbh seeing how well it’s gone

[cursive rampart]

God, I hope Ava is actually playable from the get go

[tiny rose]

does it? I didn't for this guy, he was there for 2-3 minutes

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-i-need-him-anakin-skywalker-darth-vader-anakin-i-need-him-gif-18259732

[cursive rampart]

I'll play it so damn much

[lost citrus]

you forgot cama in there

[silk iron]

ive had my hunger and water drained for trying to get through a sanctuary to a nearby water source, it drains your entire food and hunger if you're above 50%

[craggy ridge]

Boar Ava

[cursive rampart]

PLEASE

[manic fulcrum]

Predicting Quetz will be done before it

Tbh ehhh Cama end of year I don’t complain

[midnight kernel]

Thats what i was told. Ive experienced the megaherd debuff when a bunch of maias chased my teno which was ass so i dont risk it. Im glad officials doesnt have that nonsense

[tiny rose]

is it on Petits?

[manic fulcrum]

Cama prob has a lot of hurdles to tackle before it’s pushed out

Cause at least imo, I don’t think the devs would want it grazing on grass as a LITERAL SAUROPOD

[craggy ridge]

I am kinda hoping Dinosaur AI will ultimately fully replace the large modern animal AI. The modern animals do make sense and the smaller guys (Rabbits/Sea Turtles/Frogs/etc) are fine but I feel like Avas, Tacos and whatever they would choose for the third nutrient will help keep me in 'muh immersion'

[silk iron]

yeah

oh wow 4 canni rexes

[gentle idol]

I think will all be dead before this roster is completed fully

[compact bobcat]

yo why my dino makes like a loud noise everytime I enter a bush when I'm running?

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh I just want less boars, Deer & Turtles and more small Ai in sanctuaries for juvies

[silk iron]

wait no its 3 canni rexes and a canni allo, crazy

[lost citrus]

Because giant animals make noises when they run through heavy brush

[midnight kernel]

Learn to be sneaky. Everything makes noises in brush

[snow socket]

best mutations for allo? i have congenital, gastro, and hemomania but idk what to put on 4th

[lime vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-think-thinking-hmm-gif-11570469479394618754

[compact bobcat]

No no, I'm literally a juvie allo. It's like a little growling thing it does idk why

[silk iron]

wow

[midnight kernel]

....passive sounds?

Hes saying his baby allo is growling now

[midnight tundra]

Is it highlands bushes? Theres pterodactylus ai that fly out of them when you go through.

[compact bobcat]

y'all don't get me, it's not the bush, it's the dino making weird sounds

[snow socket]

best mutations for allo? i have congenital, gastro, and hemomania but idk what to put on 4th

[midnight kernel]

Dinos make passive noises

[compact bobcat]

maybe it's that, would make sense ty

[silk iron]

i hear baby rexes before i see them, its cuz they always lay down

[midnight tundra]

You can also see them fly out. See if you can spot them.

[craggy ridge]

I'd be ok with AI that could sustain larger carnivores because it is kinda cruel and agonizing to tell people they need to starve to death on longer grow time playables because they simply couldn't find anyone. Rarely ever is it an attempt/effort issue preventing players from actually hunting others and more so just not being able to flat out find anyone.

But it'd be more of a game and challenge to actually get said AI and even a point of driving carnis into conflict with unknown parties. There's a lot I could go into about how I feel about it.

[silk iron]

i hate knowing there are mulitple deinos in a lake and watching grabbable rexes cross

[rugged pike]

is entombing beneficial and should i do it as a rex?

[manic fulcrum]

Man if only there was a system that is supposed to push herbivores into temporary areas so carnivores have an idea of where to look Migrations if only….

This is the issue of herbivores not having to follow migrations, the issue of carnivores having a horrible directory of where they should even look, and all the problems of tracking not existing as a consistent mechanic

Apexs should not be surviving off boars period, arguably neither should an Allo

[tiny rose]

ain't no way the same guy is still in the same sanc....

[peak vigil]

It is always benefitial, you’re regrow eventually anyways and if you entomb you’ll have mote mutations + they’ll be buffed

[manic fulcrum]

The safety net of Ai allows large carnivores to not need to interact with the other players, therefor everyone gets bored

[compact bobcat]

yeah it was totally that, I just saw some. Tysm

[cursive rampart]

I don't doubt there being days where we argued Carno shouldn't be able to do that either

[tiny rose]

dude killed the entire sanc all by himself and then me, 15 minutes later, I come back there and he is still there. Giant omniraptor, what the....

[manic fulcrum]

I’d argue Cerato and Carno shouldn’t yes. They are a special exception though since Carno eats small game anyways and Cerato eats everything

[cursive rampart]

Agreed tbh

[pliant birch]

spooky

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[manic fulcrum]

If migrations actually worked, herbivores actually had to go to them for food, and carnivores could reliably follow them. Then they wouldn’t need to aimlessly wander. They could just go zone to zone and search for food

Will there be times you starve cause you couldn’t find someone? Sure. But the goal should be to point things in the right direction and currently it just doesn’t do that by a long shot

[craggy ridge]

Yeah I fully agree that Migrations and Patrols need some form of overhaul and update (which Im sure are planned)

There's also a bit of a design flaw with what the game wants (in my opinion). Carnivore diet lists having more Herbivores make sense... but if diet balancing for Carnis is so skewed to favor more herbis, than you're shooting yourself in the foot by allowing total freedom of choice for players to pick whatever dinosaur they want because you can never garuntee that the needed herbis will exist to sustain a 'healthy' ecosystem...

[gentle idol]

not reading allat

[manic fulcrum]

two paragraphs

[cursive rampart]

Wait till you see anything Hacker writes

[midnight kernel]

Theres two problems with forcing carnivores to survive off players: migrations dont work (as was said) but also very few people play herbs. I still go to migrations, i still go to patrol zones as a teno. Dont see anyone. And the last time i did, they had crashed and poofed right in front of me

Its a lonely existence

[cursive rampart]

Patrols messed up migrations big time man

[gentle idol]

i think migrations is perfectly fine even tho i haven’t played this game in 4 years

[indigo cave]

Migrations would be very cool if they changed like twice a day and gave an immense amount of nutrients though, it's just not worth it to chase them across the map, like at all

[manic fulcrum]

Ideally that would be fixed by having dinosaur ai fill in the animals not being played at the time

[silk iron]

i gave up on migration zones after they constantly moved away whenever i'd get close

if they didnt move when i was like... a few steps from being in them, i'd go to them more

[trail shard]

A lot has happened during those years

[cursive rampart]

Just keep following the one you were previously following. It'll show up again after you get to it

[indigo cave]

I think I went to migration zones like twice in 500h

[midnight kernel]

You can force herbs to go to migrations but it wont change jack because herbs dont exist. So unless they make it so carnis cant eat carnis, no one will be herb

[manic fulcrum]

There will never be a perfect carnivore-herbivore population. Though tbh you can get pretty close with high pop servers (primarily metas) I don’t count petits

[indigo cave]

Putting even more pressure on herbis is not a good idea bruh

[cursive rampart]

Is it crazy that early migrations were the best they were ever at?

[craggy ridge]

Ideally but let's be real... how far out are we from that reality?

I think the notion that Carnivore players outnumber herbivore players is a little exaggerated, but it's really not by a lot. It can be jarring (sometimes) to play this game for hours on end, and run into two or three times the number of large carnivores than herbivores.

[indigo cave]

We don't need to shoo away people from carnivores, we need to incentivise players to choose herbivores

[manic fulcrum]

Migrations routes not being zigzags for stegosaurus please and thank you

[silk iron]

wish i knew that ages ago

[indigo cave]

What?

[midnight kernel]

Its less a pressure on herbs thing and more theres 0 point playing them even though they have some very solid animals. However balance is all out of whack atm too

[peak finch]

does anyone knwo what the requirements for prime elder are?

[cursive rampart]

They're buggy as hell, but if you're close to them, just keep going, the food will still be there and it'll still count for prime anyways

[silk iron]

you are my hero labubu

[cursive rampart]

[indigo cave]

The point of herbivores is easier growth and not being forced into pvp

Making carnis eat ONLY herbis just removes all remaining benefits from herbs

[manic fulcrum]

Zones should be larger in general so that they aren’t funneled into a single area. Riverdelta is a good example of how big a zone should be….not highlands

[indigo cave]

Yeah agreed

[manic fulcrum]

They really need to use more of the map for MZ’s

[midnight kernel]

....thats a very wierd point to have. Ive taken herbs as being able to sustain social gameplay better

[peak finch]

hey do you know the requirements for prime elder rex?

[silk iron]

ive never had a migration zone spawn in swamps funnily enough, not sure if thats the same for anyone else

i also cant get pzs to spawn in swamps when im in there

[midnight kernel]

Either way theres a lot of foundational issues in the game contributing to problems rn like- food is STILL hard to eat

So we cant really judge on complex issues much

[silk iron]

i yearn to play stego, but specifically 2 ton stego

[indigo cave]

Yes and making so 80% of the playerbase is after your ass isn't particularly conductive to social behaviour... Unless you are immune to all that predation like hypsi or old stego

[lilac mauve]

It would be kinda cool if the dino species you can choose to play was population based

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/mewgenics-cat-dance-cat-edmund-mcmillen-tink-gif-9624838934882159056

[indigo cave]

Even if you meet your own species you better ask for their discord instantly because you are gonna have a carnivore on your ass

[midnight kernel]

Speaking as a teno main....they are regardless

[cursive rampart]

Boy do I have a server for you

[pliant birch]

the humble hyper

[silk iron]

PEAK

[indigo cave]

They are what?

[midnight kernel]

Moot point when everything wants to eat you 😂

[grand grotto]

damn is size accurate?

[pliant birch]

no, but I was basing it off legacy sizes so

[grand grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432025103352332432/1463386195911381043/attachment.gif

[midnight kernel]

You said 80% of the server will be after your ass. I play solo teno. every encounter they are after me

[pliant birch]

cause the ported size is like 50X larger than the hyper there.

[manic fulcrum]

NOT OFFICIAL this is my variation of gateway (adjusting aspects of it to be better) and you can totally make zones larger and use more of the map

[midnight kernel]

This would be pretty nice!

[viral cedar]

Guys i just downloaded the game there is no servers showing

[indigo cave]

Perhaps as teno... (Gentle giant) Stego main here, with the rex update it went from being able to befriend literally everything and just chillpack in highlands to paranoia simulator. Tf is the point of big herbis when they just feed rexes

[midnight kernel]

Steam > Isle > Properties > Betas > Evrima

[cursive rampart]

You're in Legacy

Go to steam, right click on the game, go to properties, betas, select Evrima and wait for it to download

[silk iron]

i yearn to be a kentro... cute, fast and deadly

[midnight kernel]

Yeah sadly i think thats more a rex balance issue and hyper overpop

[viral cedar]

@midnight kernel thanks

[silk iron]

i WANT to play stego, but i dont want to end up big and old nd ugly

[midnight kernel]

Players will gravitate to whats new or broken. The council has SPOKEN when it comes to rex lol

[lilac mauve]

Oh?

[still agate]

You need to change the version to envrima.

After 11 years of development, for some dumb reason, envrima isn’t the standard version.

[manic fulcrum]

At least how I see it, even if players will always flock to carnivores before herbivores; you should still want to ensure carnivores CAN find the herbivores to begin with. Because otherwise your growth is boring and there is no gameplay. It’s why people get bored, no one interacts with them during growth because they don’t have to

[cursive rampart]

I still think stuff that's between 1-2 tons has the best gameplay cycle in the game

[indigo cave]

Don't forget allo... Until you are prime allos can just walk all over you with zero counterplay

[midnight kernel]

Yep

[silk iron]

tanky but not too tanky!

[midnight kernel]

Im extremely happy teno at least gets just fast enough to survive shortly after sanc

[cursive rampart]

Petits Pieds has a population control thingy that doesn't let things get too overpopulated (I think it's Petits, I hope I'm not mixing stuff up)

[manic fulcrum]

The alternative is what we have now. Carnivores are forced to eat Ai for eternity and herbivores hide wherever they need be and never get seen or engage with anyone

[midnight kernel]

Then get to 90% fill up and find a place to hide cuz you wont starve before you entomb

[potent pebble]

Is Dino Den a good unofficial server?? Anyone know?

[grand grotto]

[midnight kernel]

No do not touch it

[silk iron]

not in the slightest

[midnight kernel]

Go to mettas or petis if anything

[potent pebble]

Say no more lol appreciate the heads up lol

[indigo cave]

Yep, extremely fun life cycle since rex update

[silk iron]

the 3 times growth might seem appealing but the numbers are spoofed so theres only like 10 actual players on

[cursive rampart]

What's up with Dino Den? Never played in it

[midnight kernel]

Yeahhhh im rather annoyed about the decay...

[grand grotto]

evil incarnate in digital server form

[silk iron]

gambling, spoofing, ddosing other servers and some other stuff im not too familiar with

[cursive rampart]

Yikes...

[grand grotto]

nerf also has gambling they got black jack and stuff

[viral cedar]

@still agate i did thanks. And yes that's weird 😕

[indigo cave]

I like dino den because it has global chat 👍

[potent pebble]

What’s one of the best unofficial servers?

[cursive rampart]

WAIT WHAT

[silk iron]

mettas den

[indigo cave]

Poor deino 😔

[glossy harbor]

petit pieds

[cursive rampart]

When did Nova update his size charts????????

[sick frost]

sup

[pliant birch]

WHAT

[silk iron]

i honestly didnt know about nerf

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-minus-one-roar-gif-12543133267682759647

[potent pebble]

Spino where??? I need it

[pliant birch]

they didnt I dont think

[grand grotto]

nerf has hella gambling a stop growth system and they made it so herbs can talk in local chat and group up which i hate

[manic fulcrum]

Also I forgot to respond to this, but I’m aware it’s a far away ideal. Isle ai has never been that good to begin with and I doubt it’ll ever be a reality. Yeah I still want to naturally make herbivores & carnivores have to engage with each other more during growth than they do now (which is bare to none). Herbivores should have set areas they go to for food and (at least the larger ones) carnivores have to find them for food & nutrition

It’s just comical at this point how I’ll literally TRY to not need Ai and actually find players, find none, be forced to eat Ai

[cursive rampart]

https://imgur.com/a/isle-size-charts-fan-made-2025-coF8yKs

Isn't this new?

[silk iron]

uugghhhh

[pliant birch]

thats my boy krayts

[trail shard]

Deino be looking like a little baby

[pliant birch]

ive watched him make it

[sour swan]

as someone who plays 95% carnivore when i played a parthenogenesis teno it was probably top 10 recent evrima experiences for me because i saw all sorts of species which i could either socialise with or defend myself from, didnt have to look for players and being the prey is fun if youre decent. i think most players would play alot more herbi if they just found one that really appeals to them and made them try it in completion atleast once

[cursive rampart]

Huh. Wut.

But my link went to Nova's... That's weird

[sour swan]

i think it mostly just comes from people preferring to be the aggressor in combat too

[grand grotto]

on nerf you legit can get to peak prime and just stop ur growth and be peak prime forever

[pliant birch]

https://imgur.com/a/isle-unofficial-size-charts-yBUsBg2 heres novas

[cursive rampart]

Did Nova just kill his size chart?

[indigo cave]

Why does your pfp have an anti queer sign?

[silk iron]

i dont like this

[craggy ridge]

Is it bad that I'm lowkey hoping Rex gets a weight nerf to 8 Tons (full adult)

[tiny rose]

My raptor family clapped a Pachy who once again attacked first, when we were eating, time to sit afk for 5 minutes

[cursive rampart]

Weird

But thank you!

[grand grotto]

im 90% sure its the most modified unofficial server there is SOOO much more

[manic fulcrum]

Players actually having to engage with each other therefore fixing the issue of boring growth. Who would have guessed

[silk iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396350852385603605/1435322479890530415/togif.gif

[cursive rampart]

Best size to be

[grand grotto]

dawg you can teleport on nerf to yo friends 😭

[pliant birch]

krayts size chart is meant to be like novas, but up to date with the current animals with their respective sizes ingame

[fringe saffron]

Diablo seems wrong

[cursive rampart]

It's not up to date

[pliant birch]

krayt also did help nova with theirs

[indigo cave]

Why is shant so small

[cursive rampart]

It's basically an old prediction of sizes

[lilac mauve]

Im excited for sauropods, important keystone species we are missing lol

[pliant birch]

cause it was based off actual IRL sizes as when he made that, it was all they got

[cursive rampart]

I wouldn't call this small

[indigo cave]

Anky fitting right in with the size 6x the weight

[cursive rampart]

Our mid tier is depressing

Why do we have so little of them?

[pliant birch]

dunno, but its pretty much all we will get now, apart from alberto

[cursive rampart]

It's so sad

[pliant birch]

rest are scrapped or are atleasted highly hinted at

[cursive rampart]

Like half of these are scrapped

And Carno thinks it's on the team

[pliant birch]

it was back then

[analog turret]

I still pray for Semi-aquatic plateo

[manic fulcrum]

Teno

[pliant birch]

PLATEO IS SCRAPPED

[trail shard]

Alberto will be a great mid tier 👍

[neon elk]

Hi

[cursive rampart]

I pray for any Plateo showing up

[gilded badge]

Is there any way to get in contact with the devs?? Our server is getting copied by name and those people are trying to hurt us with banning people automatically when they join. So thats 100% planned and intended

[indigo cave]

Fair, seeing if being far smaller than spino hurts my soul

[hoary sage]

Contact Punch

[trail shard]

WOAGHHHHHH

[analog turret]

Cold hard facts can't take away my faith

[neon elk]

The Punchpacket

[glossy harbor]

I need anky in the game!!!!

[neon elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1483915999781847090/speed.gif

[cursive rampart]

But it's not even smaller

[oblique verge]

Hey guys, when it comes to eating, how can I get protein from my body? I mean, mechanically speaking.

[indigo cave]

You and me friend, you and me...

[trail shard]

ACROCANTHOSAURUS

[neon elk]

Probably not protein powder then

[lost citrus]

eat organs

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-ankylosaurus-my-beloved-heart-gif-10140904461919489066

[hoary sage]

Organs each provide diets, and the body itself only gives diets if it's on your diet list

[trail shard]

LMAFO 😭 this is the most hilarious Isle meme i've seen i a while!!!

[glossy harbor]

❤️

[neon elk]

Yummy ear organs
Sorry....

[glossy harbor]

❤️ anky

[oblique verge]

How can i get the organs of the corpses?

[neon elk]

Yay!!!

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-silence-shh-quiet-kill-gif-5018561

[hoary sage]

Spam E until the body is open, then grab them with G. AI do not have organs

[neon elk]

Sorry

[oblique verge]

Ty so much

[neon elk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wth-luistt8n-dinosaur-wtf-ieRtGgdBKEXnRpxAed

[lost citrus]

also not all corpses have organs

nearly all AI do not have organs

[indigo cave]

I hope cama, shant and anky are immune to bone break

[neon elk]

Do i have organs?

[trail shard]

That short has over 1 million views iirc

[neon elk]

Hmm
Thank you

[manic fulcrum]

A brachi taking a fall is prob not gonna end well

[trail shard]

You're welcome

[neon elk]

When will you get 1 million views swag!!!

[neon elk]

No worries, I thinking

[cinder cave]

Green

[neon elk]

Oh

[indigo cave]

I meant from rex lmao
Just like big goobers being immune to pachy headbutt

[neon elk]

What about the hypoendrinying rex

[wraith hound]

Lightclaw dear are you okay ?

[neon elk]

Yes but I am not a deer
Thank you though

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-penalty-gif-25754511

[wooden marsh]

It's okay it was a joke 🙂

[neon elk]

Tartarus...

[wraith hound]

what are you then, if not a deer ?

[void marlin]

Hypo Anky when

[glossy harbor]

Anky bunker

[neon elk]

Oh
Are we allowed to... i will forgive you though

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/moo-deng-gif-10419235961212787672

[indigo cave]

Our beloved rock ❤️

[neon elk]

Hmm quite so
Good thinking once again

[trail shard]

Thats a good question.. if somehow a short is good enough and algorithm loves it so much to boost it up to 1 million views. My record for most views on a video is 13,5k and short is 70+k (Battlefield tho)
..

[wooden marsh]

You have a content creator role?

[neon elk]

I will give you the views by thinking hard enough
Do not fear

[wraith hound]

all the other AE employees are scared of me they think i'm unstable

[indigo cave]

Screw hyper anky
Neuro anky to talk to other species and mess with humans

[neon elk]

Sometimes
Dont we all?

[void marlin]

You're just weird ngl