isle-discussion

[indigo cave]

whats not wrong with it

[halcyon locust]

no but it can climb trees very badly

[grim compass]

seems kinda fair to have such a dino at the growth time of it

[sand abyss]

Sweet

[vapid pumice]

its getting the animation work done for it currently

[void marlin]

• It's a carnivore
• It's Cera all over again
• Mid
• Apex
• Too strong even for Trike
• Mid
• Cucho is cool
• Not Anky
• Not Allo
• Not Dryo
• Pinslop

[indigo cave]

bruh get out, trike and stego or even deino take as long just to get the "privilege" of feeding a rex

[sterile gulch]

all false

[grim compass]

son ds list pure goyslop

[void marlin]

Rex is just Giga but worse

[grim compass]

it doesnt wym apart from trike it aint close

[sand abyss]

What you think? Spino before elder scrolls 6?

[void marlin]

Cucho, check your DMs

[pliant birch]

hmm

[indigo cave]

A year ago I expected anky by 2028, nowadays I dont even expect spino by 2028

[vapid pumice]

realistically yes but for pure copium im going to say ES6 surprise drops on us tomorrow and it is the best game ever

[crude girder]

Elder? Like prime elder??

[sand abyss]

We will get Skyrim on the refrigerator before then

[grim compass]

comming summer 2030

[vapid pumice]

i need a new dark brotherhood questline

[void marlin]

Give Sammy a buff

[frigid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[flint bison]

I reckon we get spino next year

[misty pivot]

get this man a true

[void marlin]

Thank you

[sand abyss]

Feel like nothings had as much hype as when deino first came out, not even Rex

[slate trellis]

🥱

[viral cloak]

Just got the game anyone wanna show me the ropes?

[carmine rose]

Is this a joke?

[neon elk]

hi

[void marlin]

Kinda. There's some jokes but I do agree that Rex is OP, even for a apex.

[sterile gulch]

rex is a apex and thats good how it its, the only thing he needs is a nerf in his ambush

[neon elk]

i like jokes

[buoyant harness]

are there rules against herbis killing herbis on official? or is it just frowned upon or is it just man eat man? what's the deal

[neon elk]

mew

[buoyant harness]

that's the one

[grizzled egret]

frowned upon

[buoyant harness]

that's annoying. trike just randomly killing my stego is fun though

[grizzled egret]

unlucky

[regal notch]

Oh my god he's back

@void marlin

[void marlin]

OIIAIOOIIAE

[neon elk]

hmm

[oblique geyser]

anything new in this meantime

[neon elk]

no

[oblique geyser]

[crude girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192975193241559040/1356420617255125002/svuuwqZA.gif

[carmine rose]

I think in a 2 v 2 it just depends on skill trike vs Rex

[indigo cave]

That's quite optimistic

[carmine rose]

If you mean Rex vs other stuff idrk I only fight apexes

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/well-in-that-case-yo-mama-well-case-gif-14405034452477075435

[carmine rose]

Is it’s Cera all over again a joke or nah

[half jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-today-gif-14731534949278669964

[regal notch]

I BELIEVE

[void marlin]

Here, for Bary: 🐟🐟

[regal notch]

No where near enough fish

[void marlin]

Bet

🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟 🐟🐟

[sick kraken]

this guy thinks the update is within 14 days

[void marlin]

@regal notch is this enough?

[carmine rose]

People when they tell me spinos coming out in 6 months with a straight face

[void marlin]

Alberto soon dw

[carmine rose]

You didn’t answer my question pal

[void marlin]

I'll let you think about it

[regal notch]

Maybe enough

[carmine rose]

I don’t think it’s true

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/ankylosaurus-dinosaur-king-ankylosaurus-dino-rey-dinosaur-king-gif-13729504016607573440

[carmine rose]

That’s why I asked cuz you said sum of it was a joke

[void marlin]

Holy peak

[carmine rose]

https://tenor.com/view/indominous-rex-bite-fighting-jurassic-world-gif-17280654

I don’t remember how this fight turns out but indorex clears

[void marlin]

The fact that Indom didn't die is pure plot armor

[carmine rose]

Ambush flip feast

Dondi should buy rights to indo rex and add it as dlc

[void marlin]

Indom had so much skill issue that it wasn't even real 💔

[carmine rose]

https://tenor.com/view/indominous-rex-jurassic-world-wild-rawr-gif-17280647

Such aura

If indom was added would it be pin slop?

[vapid pumice]

guess who can play the isle again (me)

first order of action is to grow la allosaura

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/indominus-rex-attacked-by-mosasaurus-gif-2402969542272924211

[paper willow]

Yes. It would probably only have 1 attack, and that is Pin Mash

[void marlin]

Hey
Guess what

Allo milk

[carmine rose]

Oh no it died to the biggest carnivore

[indigo cave]

Without the plot armor this very hit would have broken the entire skull and the film would end. Anky solos.

[void marlin]

Fun Fact: Cucho is actually spitting a fact

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-sus-dwayne-the-cow-johnson-cow-cow-eyebrow-cow-suspicious-gif-27165701

[neon elk]

no

[carmine rose]

If a super villain has a busted super power is that plot armor?

[vapid pumice]

you can not stop me actually so i will continue on my allosaura way

[void marlin]

But I said no

[warped lynx]

Hi I have my first mutation on my rex as efficient digestion. I just got to 50% growth what mutation is good? I've been told to use Enhanced Digestion

[vapid pumice]

sorry i watched a video of solo allosaurus and thought it looked cool #allosaurusfan #allosaurus4life #allosarusforever

[void marlin]

Barometric Sensivity

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/very-soon-gif-26337169

[carmine rose]

Can you send me the video

[vapid pumice]

is that a beaver

[warped lynx]

ah I dont have that as an option

[carmine rose]

Please

[void marlin]

It's on the bottom

[vapid pumice]

its over there

[neon elk]

oh

[void marlin]

Do you hate or like Allosaurus?

You're actually confusing me

[carmine rose]

Can you atleast tell me the title

[indigo cave]

Yes. There is zero reason for it to have tanked the hit when it's very much still made of flesh and bone.

[void marlin]

Go for the Ghrelin one

[vapid pumice]

pick cannibalistic, it will add tyrannosaurus rex to your diet and let you eat them and their organs

it will also turn you albino, however. its not that noticable though!

[oblique geyser]

if the busted super power is having a titanium skull

[carmine rose]

It’s a fictional Dino it can do whatever it was made to do by the author

It could camouflage 😢😭😤🥺

[void marlin]

And so can some animals

[vapid pumice]

it was by JESUS on youtube, he does alot of solo player playthroughs

[neon elk]

under where...

[carmine rose]

Some animals can tank an Anky shot

[void marlin]

Ha, you said underwear

[neon elk]

oh

[carmine rose]

Ok thank you

[warped lynx]

shouldnt I go for something to keep my diets up? like enhanced digestion? so that I can grow faster

[void marlin]

The animals in question:

• +6 tons Aquatic Animals

Breaking a neck is kinda mortal irl

[oblique geyser]

or jaw

[carmine rose]

You don’t know that

Oh

[void marlin]

Yes I do, I was a Anky in my past life

[carmine rose]

You changed the message so what I said no longer applies

[void marlin]

I forgot that whales have pretty dense necks + they are underwater

[carmine rose]

A sauropod

[warped lynx]

my other options:

[halcyon dove]

rex players are an enigma, how do these people make it to prime? (they afk in a bush and eat boars/deer till 12.3tons)

[paper willow]

did somebody say

SAUROPOD 🐪

[vapid pumice]

i was being kinda sarcastic but you definitely could. it wouldnt be the best pick in my opinion, something like tramatic thrombosis or hyperbolic would be much more worth your investment imo

with that said, this is your rexes first life and if you plan on entombing and going as long as you can, getting survival based mutations for your first go around wouldnt be a bad idea

also congenital hypoglasia is always a good one due to primes and such. theres always a bigger fish

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/sauropod-dance-blender-walter200-dimsea-gif-17202830150403094744

[hollow mauve]

[carmine rose]

I kill something eat it’s organs then sit in a bush for 30 minutes - repeat

Hit prime - kill everything in sight

[halcyon dove]

only 30min? just afk for an hour 30min, you got a 2 hr hunger timer

[carmine rose]

I play on Dino den

Stomach goes out quick and There’s no npcs

[cinder cave]

Whatever, go my scarab

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-httyd-rtte-race-to-the-edge-dragons-race-to-the-edge-gif-9951174673077526225

[warped lynx]

anyone?

[vapid pumice]

oh!

[warped lynx]

im scared is this guy cheating or no

[carmine rose]

Now right click on someone and watch the magic

[crude girder]

im not seeing anything

[carmine rose]

What server

[crude girder]

@warped lynx are you talking about the clones?

[vapid pumice]

im messing around on oasis rn

[carmine rose]

Oh dang I thought there was a survival server with it

[warped lynx]

omg is that an ability oh i thought he was cheating

my bad sorry im still quite new

[crude girder]

once you are fully envenomated the dilo can spawn clones that can attack you. (but clones are bugged rn so they wont do dmg lol)

[warped lynx]

ohhhh ok ok thanks so much

[vapid pumice]

the boy

[warped lynx]

haha that dilo stopped attacking me and gave me some food ty whoever that was

[regal notch]

Love him

[halcyon dove]

well that was almost unfortunate

[carmine rose]

Peak

[tawdry haven]

late?

[lucid urchin]

That's a steam thing.

[crude girder]

it doesnt mean anything

[regal notch]

Man...

[unkempt bolt]

Update this Friday would be peak

[minor meteor]

how do u break trees for food?

[oblique geyser]

hypsi

[cinder cave]

Love it

[carmine rose]

Yakub

[halcyon dove]

cera is so dumb lol

[vapid pumice]

you and your speaking discord images that REFUSE TO MOVE FOR ME

it is only you

[halcyon dove]

i am the slide show man, i have slide shows with only one slide

for you specifically, for some reason lol. probably web discord instead of the app

[slate trellis]

i dont know what it is but it feels like ceras have more stats than they really should

[indigo cave]

Our civilised broken carnivore (cera) vs their barbaric broken carnivore (allo)

[slate trellis]

unironically true

[halcyon dove]

the one bite wonder for puking 95% of the roster lol

[slate trellis]

its just like. they dont die bro

[eternal sable]

does Matta's den have a discord? I can't find it anywhere.

[halcyon dove]

https://discord.gg/XDvwwVgw

[midnight kernel]

it does

[eternal sable]

Thank you mr Poa, the anky enjoyer

[carmine rose]

To me it feels like allos are weak as poop

[slate trellis]

🤷‍♂️

[boreal stratus]

Does anyone know if dilo clones work as of current....?

[carmine rose]

They just are bad idk

[regal notch]

how do you open the admin menu btw? insert doesn't work

[lost citrus]

This is what the Jurassic was like in Montana

[kindred panther]

rex feels weak, idk man

[carmine rose]

Slow turn like trash pounce is bad drive by claw is super easy to dodge

[slate trellis]

its almost as if getting balanced around pounce is an awful approach to allo

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/thats-bait-srTYyZ1BjBtGU

[carmine rose]

It’s not bait

I know it’s hard to comprehend someone having a differing opinion but it does tend to happen

[regal notch]

Yes the thing that kills anything it pins after about 40% and deals massive bleed to with a single claw swipe is weak, 👌 sure lol

[faint falcon]

This is mettas den yes? Not an offshoot given the dilo in the name?

[carmine rose]

Me personally I’m not dying to your Allo

[slate trellis]

whenever i figure out how to rebind claw swipe ill figure it out

[regal notch]

Prolly cuz I don't play that broken mess of a dino

[wraith hound]

Its like they say, sometimes you just need the right bait to catch a good fish

[carmine rose]

It’s a broken mess and it’s weak

[regal notch]

it's broken because it's OP honey

[crude girder]

Yes that’s mettas den

[slate trellis]

i dont struggle against allo personally

[wraith hound]

Metta loves dilo

[carmine rose]

Don’t call me honey I don’t know you, also it’s not OP if you think that idk agree to disagree ig

[regal notch]

which is a crime given the state of dilo tbh

[carmine rose]

Anyone who slightly knows how to pvp doesn’t struggle with an Allo

[regal notch]

ok sugar

[wraith hound]

[dapper dagger]

At this point Dilo will probably literally have to be given the ability to spit venom just to be viable.

[slate trellis]

dilos are genuine food

[boreal stratus]

Are there zero clones??

[carmine rose]

What do you think the top worst things with the game are rn like top 5

Bugs, balancing wtvr

[dapper dagger]

Wasn't even having that in mind funny enough. The Dilo from the Jurassic Park novel is big in size and can still spit, although no neck frill.

[slate trellis]

rexes between 1.8 and 3.3t for sure. they're the actual worst

feel bad for when they decide to add alberta because it'll be even worse off

dilos and carnos are pretty bad

[carmine rose]

I’m hoping by that point the devs will know how to balance Dino’s

[dapper dagger]

I feel like Alberto is likely going to go one of two ways:

1. it becomes the ultimate broken OP mid tier and everyone hates it so much that the past cerato hate will look tame by comparison
   or 2) it doesn't become broken OP but it's just boring and not many people bother playing it

[wraith hound]

Isn't berto gonna be a fast boi ?

[slate trellis]

i dont see it becoming an ultimate mid tier

keep in mind, it will likely be smaller than allos

[boreal stratus]

dont dilos have no clones currently

[dapper dagger]

I had the impression it was definitely gonna be heavier than Allo. It looks pretty big in its concept sketch sheet and is bulkier than Allo.

[slate trellis]

ive been cloned semi recently

[slate trellis]

any images for this? im just going off the paleologic data

[boreal stratus]

I've been trying to ask that question for DAYS now and never get a response so I kinda assumed people didn't know

[unkempt bolt]

He’s gonna be allo/maia/diablo tier right?

[slate trellis]

alright, i was dibble in SP, went afk. Got back, was extremely low from a dilo and it stacked poison for clones on me

[regal notch]

I really hope it doesn't get a spit though no cap, defeats any unique design it was going for

[dapper dagger]

Can't tell if the dead maia corpse was full grown, although to be fair they probably weren't being too literal with the size scale.

[slate trellis]

i do not know what clones do right now, but they at the very least exist

that was about a week and a half ago, at the latest

[unkempt bolt]

Prob gonna be para tier then

[indigo cave]

Okey I will bite... What makes it weak in your opinion?

[unkempt bolt]

Looks like it has a pack limit of 2

[slate trellis]

para is unironically stego weight

like prime stego weight

[boreal stratus]

Interesting. Because I see people talk about dilo like its the second coming of the devil but, truly, I've rarely see them

[unkempt bolt]

How much does stego weight

[regal notch]

🎣

[slate trellis]

9.3

[unkempt bolt]

They are probably the hardest playable right now

[slate trellis]

actually nevermind i thought they were much bigger than they really are

[unkempt bolt]

I thought para was gonna be 6-7. Guys please chill

[slate trellis]

will likely still be frail stego weight

[carmine rose]

I’m in favor of option 1 or 3

[boreal stratus]

Is this just because of maneuverability and no clones or?

[dapper dagger]

First and foremost Dilo clones need to start functioning again. Although I still question if it'll be viable even when the clones work. Something needs to be done about that maneuverability.

[crude girder]

Dilo clones are bugged rn

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/tweakerpng-gif-10194918421715987958

[regal notch]

Dillo clones become your father and go get milk for 2 years currently

[slate trellis]

dilo clones run to get mz prime before contributing to a fight

[boreal stratus]

The maneuverability is SO bad. Carno absolutely plows a dilo over

[unkempt bolt]

Both also carno just obliterates him

[dapper dagger]

Carno also pretty overtuned atm not gonna lie

[boreal stratus]

Well I assumed the carno part, but I didnt realize clones were bugged again

[dapper dagger]

Spamming the charge is pretty stupid on top of it doing bleed

[boreal stratus]

That manual head swing NEEDS to go or be nerfed. They gotta give it a cooldown/charges and most definitely a stam cost

[kindred panther]

carno can literally fight entire packs of omni and dilos.

[unkempt bolt]

Ya I mean he also has a smaller group size than cera, it’s like they just don’t want to deal with him anymore so they make him weak

[regal notch]

• Dilo has the best nightvision, but doesn't matter since 90% of the roster can see just as well at night anyways
• Dilo has hallucination inducing clones, that don't hit their target, get stuck, don't spawn, and are easily avoidable at their current speed anyways

TL;DR: Dilo can't do anything it's supposed to do right

[slate trellis]

in fairness dilo night vision is very good and it is an advantage

[boreal stratus]

Dilo has a smaller group as the clones are supposed to account for pack mates, But since they dont work........

[wraith hound]

Carno has to be stopped

[unkempt bolt]

Dilos prime elder is literally 41 mph too

[dapper dagger]

Pretty sure Carno can wreck Cerato and Tenonto and it's not even hard to do so.

[uneven stirrup]

best 3 muts for rex?

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bunny-escape

[regal notch]

oh it's good but the only thing you're using it as an advantage against are things faster than you or stronger than you i.e. Galli, trike

[dapper dagger]

I've seen Carnos win fights againt Ceratos by just spamming charge

[slate trellis]

yes, i know

[regal notch]

which would be great if it wasn't made of glass and bleed when it inhales oxygen

[kindred panther]

carno is secretly the most OP dino in the isle rn, no one just talks about it that much compare to rex and allo

[boreal stratus]

Not secretly

[carmine rose]

What in the world told you it will be smaller than Allos

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/marcos-bomba-humo-magic-disappear-gif-2380109197498980168

[slate trellis]

but inherently i feel the strength of it is there, it just doesnt have the stats it needs to use it

[regal notch]

this is how Bary gets into the isle bet

[slate trellis]

paleologic data puts albertasaurus at an estimated 1.8-3.3 short tonnage

[kindred panther]

carno can literally pick its fights and the fight it can fight can absolutely dominate.

[uneven stirrup]

best 3 muts for rex?

[unkempt bolt]

It’s the same as pachy and is now slower than raptor like they aren’t even trying to balance him. Him make bad turning and speed

[dapper dagger]

Omni and Pachy are lucky that they can jump. If they couldn't then they'd be victimized by Carno just as much as Dilo is. Carno's great drift makes it pretty agile.

[boreal stratus]

You said its SECRETLY the msot OP dino. Its Just not a secret

[dapper dagger]

IMO it shouldn't be that jumping on a rock is the only counterplay a smaller dino could possibly have against a carno

[regal notch]

his advantage is he's free food to anything he runs into

[boreal stratus]

Pachy can completely smack a carno a break its bones almost instantaneously

[slate trellis]

pachy can actually and literally 1v1 a carno in a statcheck

like trade hit for hit and it will win

[dapper dagger]

Upsize Dilo on top of fixing clones and addition of a slide?

[regal notch]

make as big as t-rex

[boreal stratus]

But I do agree that the counterplay is little to none. But the same goes for pinning dinosaurs. While I think pin is a cool mechanic, they should change allos grapple to only be a grapple for larger dinosaurs, and for smaller dinosaurs, just an attack that does moderate damage

[boreal stratus]

do NOT upsize dilo. They need an indirect buff, such as changing night vision on most dinosaurs

[slate trellis]

holy based approach

[indigo cave]

Barometric
Prolific
Hydrodynamic

[kindred panther]

idk man, most people are hating pin rn. not a lot of people are aware.

[regal notch]

but if they remove pins, what will players complain about (I'm kidding, isle players never run out of reasons to complain)

[boreal stratus]

Pin seems to be drowning out most things, but carno is known to be an issue for quite a while

[dapper dagger]

Some playables should be given subpar night vision so you actually feel a difference between the dinosaurs during night time. Also I would nominate Carno as one of the diurnal carnivores (similar to cheetahs that it sometimes gets compared to)

[slate trellis]

is this real...

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[slate trellis]

hydrodynamic is unironically goated

[uneven stirrup]

best 3 muts for rex guys?

[atomic oxide]

Can we send Rex to the Shadow realm, This pin slop has gotten out of hand and is ridiculous overall

[dapper dagger]

Would Acrocanthosaurus' choke-out ability be considered pinslop

[slate trellis]

what do you mean choke out

[kindred panther]

carno is one of those dinos that doesn't really worry about pin either since it's fast af.

[boreal stratus]

Not if theres counterplay

[indigo cave]

Idk something along the lines of

Bleed resist
Gastro
Fracture resist

[boreal stratus]

If an allo can get a jump on a carno, its not hard to just bleed it out

[dapper dagger]

Sketch sheet demonstrates Acro doing a suffocate-like biting on a Camara. And a Trike.

[boreal stratus]

But thats IF you can catch it, which is a big if lol

[slate trellis]

would you please find the image again for me...

[boreal stratus]

what does this mean.......

[kindred panther]

i mean, rex can do it too lol. ambushing does that lol

[regal notch]

use your imagination

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/update-this-month-update-month-thinks-believes-gif-17177326182732142827

[slate trellis]

likely just an artistic approach

[regal notch]

I believe it's every waking minute of every day

[carmine rose]

Paleowise Alberto is bigger

[slate trellis]

Nah

[vapid pumice]

im growing a rex on mettas den 👁️ 👁️

[kindred panther]

keep in mind this is old cama. new cama is a lot bigger.

[dapper dagger]

Acro choking out a Rex for the first time will be hilarious. I imagine this is how the Rex player would react after getting choked out by an Acro

[slate trellis]

paleowise allos both have larger examples and higher attachment points for muscle, they're rated for 2.7 tons and set highest numerical example at 4.3

[slate trellis]

i cant wait for acro it's my favorite therapod!!!

[vapid pumice]

i will be mighty

[boreal stratus]

baryonyx my BELOVED

[indigo cave]

I still don't believe it will get a choke. If you aren't anky or stego how tf do you fight that crap

[regal notch]

the monkey's curls, it gets a pin that drains oxygen to 0

[regal notch]

SOON™

[slate trellis]

regrettably true

[boreal stratus]

I pray for the day Bary comes

[carmine rose]

It’s got slow acceleration, bad turning, can’t punch up, can’t maneuver (essentially when it goes in for an attack it can’t back out it’s either going in and missing and running passed or hitting but is also gonna take dmg. Ends up boiling down to a standing still alt biting fight

[regal notch]

so possibly in 5 minutes

[boreal stratus]

Other than Anky, genuinely the dinosaur im most excited for

[slate trellis]

i eat rexes for dinner on allo

[regal notch]

same

[regal notch]

earlier you said allo was weak 💀 make up your mind

[slate trellis]

3 allos can just pin a rex

[carmine rose]

There is 4+ ton Alberto’s that have been found and a few 3.2+ chat gpt Dino stats aren’t very accurate

[regal notch]

3 allos can kill a anything

[carmine rose]

You can have 4 allos and they are all dying to my Rex

[slate trellis]

did i actually say allo was weak i dont remember

[crude girder]

Chat gpt

[slate trellis]

i could beat ur rex on a dibble bro 🥱

[carmine rose]

You’ll say that but you won’t run 1s

[regal notch]

in not the same exact words, but there is some implication that allo isn't a problem

[boreal stratus]

Getting insta pinned and dying to crush

[slate trellis]

ive figured out a way

[boreal stratus]

release the hidden strat please

[carmine rose]

Yea people look up Dino bs on chat gpt and then come in and say “ paleo data” like they are sum kinda paleontologist

[carmine rose]

It is

[boreal stratus]

This is actually insane to me. Look up a paper or an article or literalyl ANYTHING not chat gpt

[slate trellis]

can i dm?

[indigo cave]

What the hell do you mean standing still alt bite fight? You can literally climb onto their back and bleed them to death on the spot. Also even if for some forsaken reason you don't use the pounce, you have dilo bite speed. An allo bitting a maia on the body while maia does headshot kicks still wins on raw damage alone, not even counting the bleed.

Also not being able to punch up? What? Sure if you are solo you won't be able to kill an apex but literally no midtier can solo an spex so wtf is this point

[boreal stratus]

Ofc ofc

[regal notch]

this reminds me of the chat last night about the guy who was angry about deino not being able to kill rex or something

[carmine rose]

Yea I know there’s plenty of studies

[carmine rose]

It loses to a dibble

I’m not talking about apexes

[indigo cave]

Wow you lose 1 on 1 to a single playable that you can outrun, truly an underpowered dinosaur

[carmine rose]

You said it can punch up

[indigo cave]

Maia.

[carmine rose]

I was giving an example

[carmine rose]

Maia loses to a lot of stuff smaller than it

[slate trellis]

maybe im sauced at maia but im not scared of allos

[regal notch]

bary would fit in the square hole

[cinder cave]

I'm sure it is

[slate trellis]

🥱

[carmine rose]

Yes but good Maias are hard to find tbh

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-face-cats-qZgHBlenHa1zKqy6Zn

[carmine rose]

Every Maia I see I piece up on wtvr I’m on

[coarse nimbus]

That’s right! It goes in the square hole!

[oblique prism]

If Ive already done the requirements for elder on my first entomb, do I need to do them every time for every entombment

[indigo cave]

Yea

[regal notch]

top 10 most engaging fights

[slate trellis]

i unironically would be willing to run this fight myself

[crude girder]

Yes

[boreal stratus]

this is INSANE

[dapper dagger]

Not gonna lie I haven't played this game in weeks, I got burnt out in its current state especially as I feel like the overall balancing sucks right now.

I'll return to playing when the HT comes. And i still stand by me saying I want a Dilo fix/glowup more than any new playable. I wish they prioritized fixing current playables before being so eager to add new ones tbh

[slate trellis]

find like 8 dibble friends

[crude girder]

The Maia did stop attacking for a second but that’s still kinda crazy

[halcyon dove]

JuSt HeRD uP if CarnIvoReS ArE a ThrEaT!!!!!

just herd up!!! herd up!!! trust!!!!!

[neon elk]

colours

[slate trellis]

bro 😭

[indigo cave]

I'm so glad you kicked it's ass, those players should genuinely get banned

[oblique prism]

how heavy are prime elder raptors

[slate trellis]

play with people you know never trust randoms

[slate trellis]

660kg

[halcyon dove]

it almost killed me because i didnt toss it when i should have, trikes thrash hits so hard lmao

[halcyon dove]

i didnt trust them lmao, we were just eatin. foods everywhere. broski decided it was my time i guess

[indigo cave]

Nah you did well friend, screw that guy

[slate trellis]

you did very well bud dont worry

[halcyon dove]

turns out he was an idiot and got sent back to the respawn screen. we love colgate colossus's

[slate trellis]

what % were you?

[halcyon dove]

its why i roll my eyes so hard when people say to herd up

[halcyon dove]

55% or so

[slate trellis]

i dont think you were big enough to throw him

[indigo cave]

You slide around with dibble really well

[oblique prism]

nerf prime elder raptor weight

[slate trellis]

the sliding he pulled is great

[indigo cave]

I cannot for the life of me get dibble or trike to move around (I played them a single time each)

[oblique prism]

alr I aint gonna lie dibble is not hard to figure out

[halcyon dove]

i play mostly trike/stego, but idk its just not worth it right now. so im not playing it

smaller potato life it is

[slate trellis]

i play only dibble and maia

[lapis orbit]

Remember, prime Rex outruns Diablo at all stages of life! 👍

[indigo cave]

Last update annihilated the enjoyment out of trike, stego, hypsi, ptera, beipi and dilo while adding three totally overpowered carnivores. Very cool

[halcyon dove]

keenly aware, but i just want to be a potato. cant have a damn thing in this economy

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[slate trellis]

i dont think so?

[indigo cave]

It does

[lapis orbit]

You underestimate how fast prime Rex is

[slate trellis]

ive never been caught by rexes and its never been without lack of attempt

[lapis orbit]

They haven't been prime, or you've just gotten very lucky

[slate trellis]

actually one time i got caught by i was a full elder

[indigo cave]

So called ambush predator when it can run down and brawl with apexes

[lapis orbit]

I see, I chase, I tank, I win

[slate trellis]

my current dibble has survived like 5 run-ins with rexes

[lapis orbit]

I think this person listed things out really well

[slate trellis]

and its been bodybroken like twice

[zinc abyss]

did a salty deino player write this lol

[indigo cave]

I would personally make the turning bad really bad (it's a very clumsy bipedal), totally remove the ambush and give it normal stamina regen

[slate trellis]

remove sprint altogether bc rexes didnt have the muscle to support sprinting in any capacity

[indigo cave]

I think raising the hunger drain just makes it so it has to ruin the fun for others more often

[lapis orbit]

I have never encountered a Rex while on Deino that was an issue, so I do not think so.

[frigid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-head-bump-dumb-speed-dumb-gif-7147305962862423449

[vapid pumice]

im genuinely considering playing officials because i dont want to kill my juvie rex on metta and waiting for allo to unlock on petit is boring

they are the only two unofficials worth playing on grrr

[indigo cave]

Officials are pretty much all I play and it's really not bad

[heady stirrup]

How long does prime rex stage last

[halcyon dove]

75-100 is ~10 hrs

[slate trellis]

play nerf

[halcyon dove]

US or EU?

[lost citrus]

officials are great if you are like me and play ptera or something

[vapid pumice]

US

[cinder cave]

I've discovered the joy and whimsey of the thermal vent above the volcano

[slate trellis]

yeah i recommend nerf

[indigo cave]

I like to chillpack so anything works

[slate trellis]

what does chillpack mean

[indigo cave]

Randoms of the same and different species just chilling together. Basically a mixpack but instead of going around murdering you are cutie patooties peacefully

[tranquil karma]

Birdbathing

[halcyon dove]

yeah, us doesnt really have survival servers sadly. im on the east coast so i can play EU with minimal ping.

its just mettas and petits really. you can play dino den if you want to mess around though

[slate trellis]

oh i do that all of the time!!!

[indigo cave]

Hell yeah ❤️

[slate trellis]

One of my favorite things to do is chauffer little baby trikes until their not so little baby trikes

[indigo cave]

🙂‍↕️

[slate trellis]

as dibble

[indigo cave]

Same but as stego

[slate trellis]

so long as they're a baby when i meet them'

[halcyon dove]

i still have yet to have a positive herb/herb interaction lol. they always try to kill me and get rolled :/

[slate trellis]

i love little fat baby herbivores

[slate trellis]

one of my baby trikes died yesterday to a prime stego who was simply being a jerk, but i USUALLY have pleasant herbi/herbi experiences

[indigo cave]

That's genuinely sad, the overwhelming majority I meet are friendly, the rare bad apple sticks out like a sore thumb tho

[slate trellis]

i make sure to vet people before i interact with them

[indigo cave]

To vet people?

[slate trellis]

like make sure they're well-meaning

[arctic oak]

when does rex's growth really start to ramp up

[halcyon dove]

i must be a magnet to them

[slate trellis]

past like 45%

[halcyon dove]

45-49 you gain like 2 tons

[slate trellis]

damn for the fact ive never played rex i nailed it

[indigo cave]

[halcyon dove]

broken day is wrong thrice a clock, or something like that

[slate trellis]

wow you think im a broken clock 💔

[halcyon dove]

good sir, i said broken day

also joe told me too. not me, honest.

[indigo cave]

Poa going insane waiting for the rex and allo nerfs

[slate trellis]

i had a stroke reading it but it reverted the spelling mistakes

[indigo cave]

Poa did you ever say what you want armour to be mechanically for anky?

[halcyon dove]

i dont want armor, seems overcomplicated for no reason. just have dmg resist like trike/dibble/pachy has

if they have time to invest into an anky only thing, sure. sounds cool

[indigo cave]

I mean... Minmi, deino, cera and so on could use the armor mechanic, it's hardly anky specific

[halcyon dove]

dont u dare, cera does not need another paragraph in its thesis of abilities

[lapis orbit]

I don't think Cera needs armor

Minmi and Anky though? Of course.

[halcyon dove]

dondi dont u do it, i know youre lurking. dont get any funny ideas

[indigo cave]

Osteoderms 🥺

[lapis orbit]

A lot of playables have osteoderms, just because it has scutes on it's back or... Whatever that is, doesn't really warrant armor.

[indigo cave]

Also... Anky will be one of the last playables added, cera might need the help in 2048

[lapis orbit]

Nah, it's an agile fella

[arctic oak]

ive never actually played rex before, so is it basically just sit in bush simulator till 45%

[vapid pumice]

i tend to run around a good bit but alot of people just bush sit yah

[lapis orbit]

I can't really think of a time, even before it was "strong" that it felt underwhelming. Even on Spiro, cera held well.

We won't count Legacy cera

[vapid pumice]

i try to get as much of the prime reqs done as fast as i can so im able to spend more time in one spot later in life for ambushes

[indigo cave]

This guy gets it

[lapis orbit]

I don't think I have the patience for Rex, I only wanted one on PP so that I could sell it if it got a skin.

[vapid pumice]

first time playing official since HT #wishmewell

[lapis orbit]

It's not worth it, Boss.

Say how it goes

[halcyon dove]

you will regret this decision in due time

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/very-soon-gif-26337169

[vapid pumice]

i require allosaurus gameplay and petit pieds is not providing

[lapis orbit]

I cast

Mixpack

[indigo cave]

💀 what the hell does petits do bruh

[lapis orbit]

You get skin, skin worth funny money, money means I can buy a pretty skin for something else like Pteradon.

[halcyon dove]

no matter how many dinos gets added to the roster, cera is so damn strong that it will never be weak. even at 36kmh its still stupid strong

[indigo cave]

Why not get the skin in ptera to begin with 😭

[halcyon dove]

imagine playing alberto or acro thinking youre the big bad and 5 damn ceras pop out

2 ceras already remove a prime trike from the census, i dont even want to think about 5

[lapis orbit]

Because chances are lower than it is for an apex, I have to hope to spawn one in, or get really luck with RNG via nesting or rolling for Ptera.

Rex? I just need to go AFK in a specific spot and I'll likely get something.

[lapis orbit]

Agreed, even a small cera puts up a good fight.

[indigo cave]

Incentivising playing apexes 🤮

[halcyon dove]

apexes are never open on petits lol

[indigo cave]

Does that server have population control?

[arctic oak]

lowks i think the burrowing mechanic shouldnt be restricted to dryo

[lapis orbit]

Playing? Nah, selling? Yeah.

And yes it does, Rex is almost always overpopulated though.

[arctic oak]

dieno is open pretty regularly on petits

[indigo cave]

Wait if it has limits how is it overpopulated?

[arctic oak]

nesting

[halcyon dove]

turns out letting sub cera hit for 170 makes it pretty strong at all stages of life lol

[lapis orbit]

This isn't even high for Rex

[vapid pumice]

it turns off dinosaur selection if something is overpopulated, but you can still nest or log back in if youre that animal (leading to overpopulation)

(trike and rex can not nest)

[indigo cave]

Interesting

[halcyon dove]

funniest part about petits is that even with incentivies to play smaller herbs, there's still 2.5-3x the amount of carnis to herbs

its actual hell trying to play solo dib on that server, im fighting for my life every 2 inches and can run from none of it

[arctic oak]

there is also like 1.5x playabe carnivores than herbivores

[indigo cave]

I wonder why stego is so rarely played, such rex shaped mystery

[halcyon dove]

6 herbs to 9 carnivores i believe

[arctic oak]

so i was exactly right

[strange nest]

cuz it bunz

[halcyon dove]

if we ignore dryo, hypsi, and ptera

idk honestly i get it now, i played cera/carno for the first time in a long time. herb QoL absolutely sucks

[lapis orbit]

It's normally really high as well, but I would assume it's because of how many elder rexes are on. They likely all stored and are playing something else.

[indigo cave]

Herbivores are second class citizens in this game

[halcyon dove]

i just thought i was coping before, carnivore experience is just a million times better than herb cus theyre basically herbs but can actually move fast and hide lmao. gotta love ai

[lapis orbit]

"But herbivores are OP!"

[halcyon dove]

and theyre gonna add sanc ai for carnivores soon too? lmao

[arctic oak]

carnivores also just get much cooler mechanics in general

[indigo cave]

Truly 😔

[kindred panther]

there needs to be a way for herbi to walk quieter or sneaking or something that helps. there's just no way for a sub trike to hide from a rex. it's just GG.

[dapper dagger]

Raptors be overpopulated like crazy. Maybe the damage pounce should get nerfed. (buff bleed pounce to balance it out but that's besides the point)

[halcyon dove]

with the introduction of rex/allo trike/dibble took a massive hit as well. their kits dont function with carnivores of their size in the game. hell they were already getting destroyed by ceras

[indigo cave]

We are also getting a bazillion new carnivores soon because clearly we need more murderers

[lapis orbit]

I think it's not that the mechanics are cooler, I just think carnivores tend to be more engaging.

Allowing carnivores, large carnivores to feed off AI and other carnivores only makes interactions with herbivores less likely.

I'd love to revisit when Dondi said on stream that carni eating carni would become less beneficial. Please.

[kindred panther]

everything murders when given the opportunity

[arctic oak]

in all fairness i dont see austro being much of a murderer to anything but fish

[halcyon dove]

idk i just hope kentro actually has some QoL to it so i dont spawn at 13kmh lmao

[dapper dagger]

Austro would fail to kill anything bigger than a grounded Herrera

[lapis orbit]

It's a fisher, I hope that's the case

[indigo cave]

Making herbivores even more of a prey item really won't help the herb population

[lapis orbit]

You say that, but interaction I think is a massive part of why they're played less. No interaction means boring gameplay.

[dapper dagger]

Looking at Rex's and Allo's diets, it seems like carnivores aren't really supposed to be on each other's diets anymores. Will they update all the other carnivores' diets to be consistent with this?

[indigo cave]

Look at the stats you just posted, nobody enjoys being hunted for sport

You have never had as much "interactions" as now playing stego and it's nowhere to be seen

[kindred panther]

hmmm, it's like people play things that are just good at killing.

[misty plinth]

idk when i play herbi i like to be hunted. And that's why dryo is so fun

[lapis orbit]

You're completely missing the point here, Cucho. It's not strictly because they're free food, it's also that it's not super engaging a lot of the time.

I agree that a big part of it is how oppressive carnivores are, but that's not the only reason.

[kindred panther]

strange on that server people play trike more than stego

[lapis orbit]

If I play Maia, there's a solid chance nothing even tries fighting me and I end up just roaming and doing very little.

[dapper dagger]

I remember when people kept complaining about herbivores being overpowered before Rex was added.

That definitely doesn't happen anymore, lol.

[kindred panther]

rex is the strongest

[misty plinth]

rex players dont have brains tho

[dapper dagger]

I see Rex winning vs Trike more than 90% of the time, that's ridiculous.

[kindred panther]

at the same time, i see trike mashing thrash like crazy.

[indigo cave]

I still think this is a very basic missconception of how the game works. It's not a battle royale, you don't need to kill everything and everyone you see. At least in my opinion, the best fun you can have in this game is to find random goobers and collaborate with them for mutual survival

[kindred panther]

the point is to survive.

[indigo cave]

Yes and that's what makes herbivores great. You absolutely do NOT need to partake in PvP in order to survive unlike carnivores

[arctic oak]

okay but if ur not doing pvp

[kindred panther]

until the bushes starts throwing punches.

[arctic oak]

what r u doing?

[dapper dagger]

Prime Elder Tenonto weight buff when

[indigo cave]

Or that was the case until rex came around and now chillpacking is one idiot away from being a buffet :/

[lapis orbit]

You don't, but I said interactions.

Less herbivores means I'm less likely to see any of my own species, or others and no carnivore wants to attempt to fight me either, I don't get to run from anything, fight back unless I engage something or group with others.

[kindred panther]

what are you doing?

[coarse nimbus]

i've had stegos ambush me it was scary

[arctic oak]

nesting adds some stuff but outside of combat as an adult what is there to do there really isnt a progression forwards

[lapis orbit]

I don't play this game to KOS things, I play this game for the interactions it can provide.

[misty plinth]

and thats why there are way more carnivores

[indigo cave]

Autistically gazing at dinosaurs while taking great care into communicating with nothing but body language and calls

[kindred panther]

'imagination' is the key to your fun

[carmine rose]

any of you folks who were making bold matchup claims wanna put it to the test?

[coarse nimbus]

what match ups?

[lapis orbit]

Were making?

[arctic oak]

sorry i dont have an imagination, i have tiktok and reels for that instead

[misty plinth]

anyone remember prime pachy

[kindred panther]

short attention span ahh

[lapis orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/dnd-avantris-grýla-sideeye-gif-2048090273888876461

[carmine rose]

someone said theyll beat me on dibble if I got rex, someone else said something about allo being good or sum ill fight them on wtvr they thing is fair

[arctic oak]

fortunately it also makes playing rex unbearable for me so i stick to my smaller carnivores and am happy

[carmine rose]

the first one I assume is a trolle but they seemed confident

[lapis orbit]

You could have replied to them directly

[coarse nimbus]

dibble can really beat down sub rex and allo, can testify have done it lol

[carmine rose]

I didnt feel like scrolling up tbhj

[arctic oak]

let troodon also make burrows like dryo will be able to

[kindred panther]

rex should burrow too because it's the apex.

[arctic oak]

i wanna make a troodon hive

[lapis orbit]

I don't think Troodons should make burrows, but they should be able to overtake them like toads.

[carmine rose]

I saw someone claim sum bs on paleo alberto and put the phone down

[lapis orbit]

I don't think we're reading the same chat

[arctic oak]

#ominivore troodon when

[lapis orbit]

Icky, it's a venomous carnivore.

[carmine rose]

I took a nap

it was like 40 minutes ago

[lapis orbit]

The chat has indeed shifted over the hour then

[carmine rose]

I said sum cuz Majority of the people who were typing are still typing

[lapis orbit]

Regulars in Islecord remain regualrs in Islecord

[carmine rose]

this was the bait that got me

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/loris-low-iq-low-iq-loris-gif-264843124893811421

[warped lynx]

I’m still new to the game but I’ve seen that the dilophosaurus can create clones. Do any other dinosaurs have special abilities like that?

[indigo cave]

Pretty much all dinosaurs have their own little superpower yes

[carmine rose]

the rest of them have pin and pounce

[indigo cave]

The isle is a hero shooter

[carmine rose]

dibble

[lost citrus]

Troodon has venom that makes it hard to see
Herrerasaurus can drop from great heights to punch up on things bigger than itself

[coarse nimbus]

the troo venom is bad rn

[indigo cave]

Spar, stun, insane head damage reduction... Ceratopsians are all the same

[oblique prism]

Do we have any idea or guesstimate to how heavy Bary will be? both regular adult and prime elder?

[carmine rose]

you said "their own"

[lapis orbit]

Bary is a mid-tier

[warped lynx]

ah ok thanks

[indigo cave]

At least 2 kilos

[oblique prism]

😭

[lapis orbit]

Bary weight guesses? I'm feeling 1900 or so

[oblique prism]

I hope its at least 14-1500kgs

[lapis orbit]

4.3 - 5T Sucho, my beloved

[oblique prism]

peak

[lost citrus]

There's more too
Maiasaura is a hadrosaur, and it can switch between bipedal and quadrupedal stances
Rex, trike, and diablo all have sparring of some sort
Carnotaurus is super fast and hunts small things by charging

[indigo cave]

I would think it's around 2.2-2.5, not much point to a defensive stance if it doesn't have the HP to tank with

[lost citrus]

Pteranodon flies, deinosuchus is a big ambush croc

[oblique prism]

except its not as big as Allo

its abt the same height and length as Carno, but beefier, so id imagine closer to 1500kgs

[indigo cave]

Allo can die in a ditch

[arctic oak]

cerato can make u throwup

[oblique prism]

(I personally hope Bary is closer to 17-1900 like Corvians suggested)

[lapis orbit]

Pachy can cripple you

[indigo cave]

Hypsi spits on you

[lapis orbit]

Please, I yearn for the shant pin mechanic

It'll be like an elephant pinning things

[arctic oak]

dryo is invisible

[oblique prism]

tho irl Bary was on average around the same size as Allo so who knows, maybe Dondi will make it near the same size as Allo

[carmine rose]

#getridofpouncebuffallo

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-bomb-jeff-gerstmann-bigger-mario-party-gif-25290782

[lapis orbit]

Please, I beg of you

[lost citrus]

what is pounce buffalo?

[arctic oak]

i would love to have bary being 1.7-1.9 tons to have it be between cerato and allo

[oblique prism]

peak

[carmine rose]

you missed an l

[lost citrus]

nah I spelled buffalo right

[indigo cave]

I would genuinely not mind 4 ton prime bary (and I don't even give a frick about bary)

[oblique prism]

Id take 1.9 tons tbh

[carmine rose]

pounce buffalo aint a thing ese

[lapis orbit]

I would, Sucho is the larger of the two, why make Bary just as huge?

[oblique prism]

Imo a 1.7-1.9 base Bary with a 2.7-3.0 ton Prime would be good

[somber urchin]

idk, but we need to get rid of it!

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pissy-baby-pb-kitten-hater-erm-gif-4302178642069291939

[carmine rose]

preach!
\

[lapis orbit]

I can get behind that

[oblique prism]

I hope Alberto is in between Bary and Allo as well

[carmine rose]

PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[somber urchin]

we will not stand for pounce buffalo >:( 🦬

[carmine rose]

wait wait, do you mean its released or like weightwise?

[indigo cave]

What the... Isn't alberto larger than stego? In legacy at least

[carmine rose]

oh he means weight, that is not preach that is a horrid take I take it back

[oblique prism]

Alberto is NOT bigger than stego 💔

[lapis orbit]

Legacy bert was a sandbox dinosaur, hard to go off of much

[carmine rose]

No it wasnt, it was the normal Alberto weight 3T

[oblique prism]

Alberto irl was abt 2-3 tons

its in the same weight class as Allo, or at least should be in game

[indigo cave]

Damn okey, always hear it described as subadult rex

[oblique prism]

If Alberto was anywhere near that big id tweak out

[oblique geyser]

buff allo? how could you say such thing!

[carmine rose]

its cuz they are both tyrannsauruses of similar size

[carmine rose]

Alberto should NOT be smaller than Allo gng also it wont be

[oblique prism]

how is my take a horrid take 💔, I think it should be the same weight as Allo

[somber urchin]

you're going to shrimp town.

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-caine-episode-7-scared-gif-11854619991858271091

[indigo cave]

Similar size? How is it 1/3 or the weight then 💀

[carmine rose]

It will be a lil bigger, you said in between bary and Allo suggesting it will be smaller

[lapis orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-23356423

[oblique prism]

yea I realized that was too small, it should be the same size as Allo or a tiny bit heavier

[indigo cave]

10 days for episode 8

[carmine rose]

A sub rex - 4T an Alberto - 3.2 can get up to 4T+ pretty similar to me idk

[oblique geyser]

i cannot wait any longer

[oblique prism]

but I mean tinier because a 2.6 ton base high damage high speed mini rex is gonna be so busted, Dondi himself said that Alberto is gonna be very powerful even by midtier standard

[versed lodge]

will para be bigger or about the same size as maia

[indigo cave]

Oh similar size to sub rex. Good, we don't need more apex carnivores 💀

[oblique prism]

I think a bit bigger

[carmine rose]

the 2.6 T weight youre proposing wouldnt make sense

[indigo cave]

So how many apex or sub apex (???) carnivores are left to add? Spino, giga and what else? Is the weird choker goober a sub apex?

[carmine rose]

itll be a sub Apex probably if everything goes to plan 😈

[oblique prism]

why? Alberto 3 ton specimens irl are considered outliers, I think a 2.6-2.8 ton Alberto would be fine

[wheat moth]

A frail deino can grab up to 4.75 tons on land. Would you be okay with a 75% sucho getting dragged from the shore? I was thinking 4.8 tons for sucho, and a 5.5 ton prime. Thoughts?

[oblique prism]

Alberto will not be sub apex dawg

[carmine rose]

no?

who told you a 3T Alberto was an outlier

[oblique prism]

ok not outlier, but the maximum weight, so most would not be getting that big

the average would be 2.6-2.8 if you take into account that the low end weight is 1.9 tons

[carmine rose]

Alberto will more than likely beat an Allo with low-medium low diff it will be at the top of the mid tier food chain

[indigo cave]

Where is my 110 ton argentinosaurus dondi

[carmine rose]

the maximum weight for an Alberto is like 4.4T or sum

[lapis orbit]

I'd love for Sucho to be just big enough not to be grabbed on land, but vulnerable to large Deinos in the water.

I think 4.8 and 5.5 prime sound pretty good

[wheat moth]

[oblique prism]

not according to what im finding online, sources say 3 tons max for large adults

[indigo cave]

That's a pretty small increase...

[carmine rose]

I can find you the study if youd like

[indigo cave]

The ~5T area will get quite crowded
Sucho, theri and cheirus

[oblique prism]

Im pretty sure Cheirus will be bigger than 5t, at least I hope it is

[wheat moth]

Cheirus will be fighting spino. 5 tons would be too puny.

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-kingdom-deinocheirus-gif-9369859307380831611

[oblique prism]

of the dozens of sources Im looking through rn, the only one saying Alb was 4 tons is the jurassic world wiki lol

[indigo cave]

What's with every semiaquatic killing deinos bruh

[oblique prism]

as they should

[oblique geyser]

yeah minmi

[oblique prism]

Im gonna be sliming out little deinos on Bary and Sucho and Deinocheirus

[carmine rose]

face sites are outdated by like 20 years you gotta really dig for credible Alberto studies

[wheat moth]

Deinos are bullies and opportunists. Spino and cheri are the ones a deino will want to avoid as adults. Everything else is on the menu. If a sucho swims with a deino, it's fish food.

[carmine rose]

unfortunately it took me like 2 weeks to find a semi recent Alberto study that had alot of information

[oblique prism]

several of the sights are straight out of museums bro, id imagine theyd keep that pretty up to date

[indigo cave]

It's a slow af, very clunky ambush predator that already struggles a lot to grow at all. Introducing 2 whole species to body it is just effectively deleting deino from the game

[lapis orbit]

I think Sucho will gobble up younger Deinos for sure, but adults will be something it's weary of in the water.

[carmine rose]

[oblique prism]

well yea, a fg deino will be hard to beat for anything less than Spino and hopefully duck

[oblique prism]

well if you can point to me an up to date 4ton Alberto than pls do, I cannot find anything with this info

[somber urchin]

gorgosaurus

[indigo cave]

'less than a spino' 💀

The humble spino growing on land off yummy ai and going to water to obliterate the now defenceless deino

11/10 balance

[wheat moth]

Blue alberto.

[somber urchin]

blueberto

[carmine rose]

fr

[lapis orbit]

Alberto has one of my favorite models thus far

[wheat moth]

[indigo cave]

I will continue to preach that spino needs to get bodied in water by deino and in land by rex

[oblique prism]

me when bad balancing

[oblique prism]

its model is pretty good ill give u that

[indigo cave]

Bad balancing is having an apex dominate on both land and sea bruh

[oblique prism]

Spino will not be beating rexes in 1v1s as long as the rex doesnt suck at the game

[indigo cave]

You know we love especulation pigeon

[warm turret]

any AI pros here could give me some advice on a route im planning?

[wheat moth]

Deino isn't the water apex 90% of people believe/want it to be. Spino will probably be slower than most on land, but big enough to defend itself. This isn't counting for when it's growing and a lot more vulnerable.

Also, yes, pigeonstarr.

[oblique prism]

delta and southplains got the best ai spawns in my opinion

[oblique prism]

right now it is, but once Spino drops it wont be nearly as viable because Spino will more than likely delete them

[indigo cave]

The heaviest creature on the roster is no an apex? Bruh

[oblique prism]

unless they find a way to keep Deino able to hold its own

[carmine rose]

@oblique prism CMN 5600 that specimen

look that one up im pretty sure thats the 4 T specimen

[wheat moth]

It is right now, because there's a vacant throne where spino will sit. It's a usurper, a steward, a false king.

[oblique prism]

yea it is, but they consider that incredibly rare and an outlier, the average Alberto was between 2.6-3 tons (its in the study I found)

[carmine rose]

I know but you said max weight

[oblique prism]

yea I was wrong abt the max weight

[lone yew]

Deino exclusively preys on things smaller than itself, ideally about half it's weight. We aren't going Paleo spino and I can't remember how big deino gets rn but I doubt spino is gonna be in grab threshold when it's in the upper end of life.

[oblique prism]

oh def not

[wheat moth]

I stand by the opinion that a couple of deinos in the water (at a similar weight) will make a spino sweat. A 1v1 should be one-sided, though.

[lone yew]

Well, should exclusively prey on them. Hasn't stopped them from trying to face tank stegos.

[indigo cave]

Sure and what will deino do when spino comes? Unlike spino, deino relies 100% on water. Deino should absolutely own spino on water because it's literally its solo habitat with the caveat that spino can at any point get on land to avoid the conflict altogether

[oblique prism]

I agree 100%

[oblique prism]

thats silly, youre silly

[warm turret]

deino is hecka hard rn

[lone yew]

Deino isn't easy and it isn't worth playing either.

[warm turret]

even without spino way too many safe water sources right?

[oblique prism]

at the end of the day, the isle is a hardcore survival game, the devs promised us nothing but death when playing this game lol

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-growl-snarl-girlwolf-shewolf-gif-9942770988235712676

[warm turret]

@oblique prism dms <3

[proper steppe]

agreed but I do like to play it the most. just too many kos cannibals

[oblique prism]

If you can get a deino to at least 70%+ grown, Delta is literally easy mode

[proper steppe]

even at 70% you will still most likely die to a duo

[indigo cave]

Same energy

[lone yew]

Have fun being bored for like 6 ish hours ig

[oblique prism]

welcome to deino

[lone yew]

Deino, otherwise known as second monitor simulator

[oblique prism]

thats why u dont play sub or apexes solo

[lone yew]

True joy in the isle comes from realizing troodon is the best playable.

[indigo cave]

I still think your dinosaurs should very slowly grow while asleep (aka you aren't online)

Something like 0,05% per hour so 1% a day

[oblique prism]

thats so real

[proper steppe]

Or heres a thought dont kill your own kind, because there is literaly like no reason to do so\

[indigo cave]

Until you have to grow one to venom stage without being nested in

[oblique prism]

Deino has 2 very good reasons actually: diet and population control

[lone yew]

Genuinely I find it drastically more enjoyable than anything else in the roster atp.

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[oblique prism]

population control is why I cannibalize on Allo

[oblique prism]

stay mad its the truth

[lone yew]

I work a beyond full time job tho so troodon is also the only animal I care to invest time into rn.

[opal cloak]

Im rly hoping para can kinda hold its own or atleast run fast becasue maia feels kinda slow

[oblique prism]

valid tbh

[proper steppe]

yeah that could be said about all dinos so not really deino specific there

[oblique prism]

maia at peak speed is 46kmh, its faster than most dinos in game

[wheat moth]

Deino is looking to be faster and more agile in water than a spino. It's not dead on sight, and spino's only going to catch one if it ambushes, or the deino wants to fight it.
The entire playable is based on its ability to one-shot things less than 75-50% of its weight in and next to water, and people want it to also compete with a fully grown spino? It's madness. Deino has the responsibility of keeping sub-spinos from growing up and becoming a threat to them, and if they don't, the hunter becomes the hunted.
What rivals a fully grown spino in its habitat? A cheirus. What does it need to fear elsewhere? A rex or a giga, maybe even a trike.

I genuinely don't see what the fuss is about.

[indigo cave]

Bro genuinely what's wrong with you? There is more than enough food for all allos to survive on. You aren't controlling crap, you are just bring toxic and running people's days.

[oblique prism]

only if you pick the canni mutation, which imo is a huge waste on most playables

[lone yew]

Nah killing allos is doing the Lord's work.

[oblique prism]

werent you the same guy literally complaining abt Allo? pick a struggle 🥀

[indigo cave]

Not as an allo.

[opal cloak]

@oblique prism how's maia in fights? Haven't played one in awhile

[oblique prism]

good if you are good with stam management

Blud is whiteknighting the animal he hates

[indigo cave]

I do not condone blatant grieffing. Allo is broken because of the developer's poor job at balancing, people will play whatever they like and they aren't to be punished for it

[lone yew]

Canni is a valid playstyle that is supported by the devs, no?

[proper steppe]

hes just trying to justify killing regardless of reason, perpetuating the cycle of madness. which will drive away 60% of players in the long run. why would people want to play for 4 hrs to die to a rando deino they come across, which happens very often in a small waterway....

[oblique prism]

its not griefing, if me and 2 friends are patrolling an area, and there are other allos there, they are eating our food, its literally just getting rid of the competition, animals do it all the time irl

and I mean a good patrolling spot, like SP or Delta, not a crap spot where few players go to

[indigo cave]

Yes and it would be fine if you had to earn it and the skin displayed your mutation so your own species avoided you like the plague as it was before. I had no issue with cannibalistic behaviour before because it was avoidable, now it's given for free and with no signs making it just toxicity incarnate

[lone yew]

Tbh you sound like a dbd player trying to impose rules on other people rn.

[indigo cave]

Bruh

[coarse nimbus]

[oblique prism]

I really dont understand how people think that killing for population control is a bad thing in this game. its a survival game, and if others of my same species are eating up my resources, I gotta get rid of them with whatever means necessary

[proper steppe]

i was just talking about food last night to some guy and he agreed that there is no reason to cannibalize at all because of hunger, if you cant find food you either need to get better or log out and come back later at higher server pop. or stop playing officials that only have 115 max at any given time

[oblique prism]

I dont even play officials, I play unofficials

[teal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-running-run-gif-8421886546433885432

[lone yew]

Population control this, food that. I kill people because it's fun. I don't even pretend there's another reason.

[indigo cave]

Look at cera. It's a natural cannibal and yet it rarely kills its own, it mostly uses it as to scavenge fallen comrades with the rare solo canni cera that you should always be wary of. Cera's cannibalism is quite well self regulated and it should be the bases of how it works for all cannibals

[oblique prism]

I dont think you realize how many people play rex and allo atm, population control is a valid reason

[oblique prism]

dawg idk what servers you play on, Cera on Cera violence is COMMON

I get killed by Ceras as a Cera more than most other dinos

[indigo cave]

Yes they do compete for the same resources and space but very rarely if ever go as far as to kill for it. There are many, MANY ways of getting people off "your" area without going for the nuclear option from the getgo.

Also ffs if you are on populated area you DO NOT need to worry about food as an allo what the hell

[oblique prism]

good for you, I will also kos for fun sometimes, but population control is a valid reason for myself

[indigo cave]

Officials, EU

[coarse nimbus]

it's not. the cannibal mutation rn just makes it easier for rexes to just diet farm each other atm, and considering how big adult rex (even sub adult corpses are) corpses are, from what i've seen, it encourages mixpackers to target solo adult rexes to feed/ grow their own rexes

[oblique prism]

again, the issue isnt how much is there, its the fact that if there are multiple of the same species in an area, they will be competing for the same food source

[indigo cave]

Actual vile behaviour

[lone yew]

I'm just saying. At the end of the day it's fun to kill people. What other reason does anyone need?

[oblique prism]

Yea and thats just annoying, hence why I dont play rex lol

[proper steppe]

plenty of resources to go around, atleast for 50% of all dinos, herbs kill eachother on sight as well, but thats just because those same people that play the cannibal carnis are now playing the herbs lol its a people thing not a dino thing

[oblique prism]

ig EU Ceras are all cupcakes then

[lone yew]

I will say on NA most of my Cera Deaths have also been to other Ceras

[coarse nimbus]

rex is fun but i def play it on servers that can support it better than the current official system. maintaining large elder rexes solo is difficult for me

[oblique prism]

I promise you its not that simple sometimes, there have been multiple runs where there were more Allos than food sources, so in order to keep the food sources for my pack, we got rid of the enemy. Its not cringe, its survival

[indigo cave]

In going to be completely honest, people like you two are the reason why the community is the biggest issue with this game. KoS especially on your own species is downright evil behaviour, it does nothing but severely damage the experience of the game

[oblique prism]

solo anything is painful tbh, especially larger animals that are targets for packs

[coarse nimbus]

the smalls are nice solo. carno is a good solo dino tbh

[proper steppe]

I agree its never going to be one sided like that but you know it happens far too often than not to be the case most of the time.

[lone yew]

"evil behavior" get off your high horse lol. It's a video game. Have a little fun.

[oblique prism]

Im going to be completely honest, you gotta just cope with this one 🥀. Im not Kosing for sport or for funsies (most of the time), I do this for valid reasons, and if the other Allos leave my area, I wont chase them down

[oblique prism]

thats valid

[lone yew]

I am kosing for funsies, it's a good time. I paid for the game and you can't tell me how to play it.

[oblique prism]

valid tbh

[lone yew]

Sometimes I do not kill people if they do a funny little dance for me.

[lost citrus]

A D
A D
A D
A D

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shift

[lone yew]

That's the spirit, throw a little crouch in there now and then and you're golden lol.

[coarse nimbus]

you know if they give me "the look" i will be on edge and ready to KOS but other than that i do have my nights where i like to murder for murder. i will be more merciful on the more larger things if i so choose

[indigo cave]

Do you realise that the people you are killing are also trying to have fun? It's not an FPS where the goal is to kill. This is a survival game, people play it for far more than the PvP. KoS on ai or something with no lifecycles cough humans is fine but taking hours of grind away from others because you just felt like it is genuinely disgusting

[oblique prism]

oh so NOW its a survival game?

[past dune]

Hey Islers

[coarse nimbus]

hi hackerr

[indigo cave]

Tf you mean now? It was always a survival game

[cinder cave]

Gurt

[lost citrus]

It's always been a survival game in concept
In execution, perhaps less so

[lone yew]

I cannot tell you how much I want to run into you in game just to kill you rn.

[past dune]

Hey Mocha!

Man, this conversation sure is wild.
(I haven't read a single message I am just going off vibes)

[coarse nimbus]

that's ominous

[past dune]

Truth nuke.

[oblique prism]

according to your argument with me the past 20 minutes, me getting rid of competition in order to keep my dinosaur alive, which is a real survival tactic, is not survival based at all

[lost citrus]

I mean if I stopped at the first line I knew you would take exception lol

[past dune]

I kill things because why not.

[past dune]

...
Am I that predictable?

[cinder cave]

I kill things when hungry, in self defense, and if they enter the cave

[indigo cave]

I cannot tell you how much I want for anky and brachi to be out so people like you have something you cannot grief.

[coarse nimbus]

the cave?

[lost citrus]

No, you just have strong opinions that you have made well known

[oblique prism]

oh fun worlds most boring playables

[cinder cave]

I nest in the volcano often

[coarse nimbus]

ahhhh fair

[lone yew]

If you wear the cave inside out every other creature is inside the cave and you're out of it.

[oblique prism]

spitting fax rn

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/think-about-it-reece-simpson

[past dune]

Maybe the real cave is society in this example.

[cinder cave]

What about the shadows on the walls

[oblique prism]

maybe the real caves were the friends we made along the way

[past dune]

Thats just fred.

[indigo cave]

Boring for PvP? 100% but that's exactly why I want them, to do everything but fight

[oblique prism]

so just walking and eating simulator, got it

[indigo cave]

Precisely

[past dune]

Is that not the point of the game?

[oblique prism]

good thing Giga is gonna counter sauropods

[lone yew]

I just think it's goofy to call it evil and disgusting behavior to kill people. I could do way more evil things. I could break your legs and not kill you. Now that's evil lol.

[lost citrus]

The life of an animal

[past dune]

Wait did someone actually say that?

[oblique prism]

cucho has been arguing with us abt this very topic for 20 minutes

[lone yew]

Yes @past dune

[lost citrus]

#isle-discussion message

[indigo cave]

Killing when you need food is 100% valid, killing because you feel like it is just vomit inducing

[lone yew]

@past dune downright evil behavior lol

[coarse nimbus]

you know what i kinda feel social tonight

[oblique prism]

see I partially agree, I wont go and kos babies unless im hungry (or its a rex, hate rexes), but I will kill if it means the survival of my own animal

and that includes getting rid of competition

[lone yew]

It depends entirely on species and if they'll do a funny little dance for me

[coarse nimbus]

i like doing my carno dance when i murder rex babies in front of the adults lol

[lone yew]

See? You get it.

[oblique prism]

I love killing dibbles and trikes when theyre babies too, but if they do a little wiggle or friendly call me I let em go cuz theyre adorable when they waddle around

[lone yew]

Fat little meatballs brimming with personality.

[oblique prism]

exactly

[vapid pumice]

omnis always get the axe personally

[coarse nimbus]

oh yeah i have plans for austro HT that are evil. i've convinced lima to join in my tomfoolery

[oblique prism]

honestly valid, I lost my 3x entombed Cera to omnis, they must pay

[vapid pumice]

cannibalistic austro is about to go cray cray

[coarse nimbus]

no not cannibalistic, even better haha remember the bowling pins gif?

[indigo cave]

We have very different definitions of survival of my own animal... I'm a stego main, I will let literally everything go as far as to physically get inside my model as long as they aren't attacking right off the bat. I never ever strike first, I genuinely wish for nothing but to have a good time and make friends in this game. That's why KoS irks me so much, it's boils such an otherwise relaxing game into five nights at rexes and it's awful

[carmine rose]

In 7 years evrima will either be a sad memory or the top best game on the market oat

[oblique prism]

see at least we both agree that rexes suck

[indigo cave]

🙂‍↕️

[oblique prism]

itll probably be somewhere in the middle as more playables drop and the game is fleshed out

[wheat moth]

World's first cannibal austro spotted!

[oblique prism]

LOL

[carmine rose]

No

It’s one or the other

[oblique prism]

💔

why cant we have middlegrounds here, its not hard

[coarse nimbus]

sploot

[carmine rose]

If this game drops all the good playables and is “fleshed out” meaning it’s works and there’s not getting stuck in rock glitches and pouncing mid air invisadinos the game will be one of the best

[indigo cave]

Unironically peak spino

[wheat moth]

Belly full of deino.

[oblique prism]

goofy aah creature

[uncut mason]

Living his best life

[carmine rose]

There is sometimes, just not on this topic the game will have either been left in the dust by the devs or it will be amazing

[oblique prism]

I wish we had a documentary where a Sucho, Spino or Bary was shown hunting a crocodilian, that would be so cool

actually, just give me a high end documentary with Bary and or Sucho in general, I love spino but we hardly see the other 2

[indigo cave]

Humans began development around dibble, did we hear anything about them ever since?

[carmine rose]

Yes

[wheat moth]

Not really. They're being kept under wraps, it seems.

[vapid pumice]

gonna play bob for the first time in forever woagbsbbggg

[coarse nimbus]

we got that updated version with the leaked dev panel, but mostly still buildings stuff in the blorg

[carmine rose]

Devs have talked about them quite a few times

[coarse nimbus]

good luck i only enjoy the game for the creature

[cerulean roost]

i would love to see Spinosaurus mirabilis in a documentary

[proper steppe]

Netflix has a documentary on dinosaurs coming out and the trailer has a spino killing a great white.

[leaden cobalt]

Do I live in a cave

[wheat moth]

You tell us.

[uncut mason]

Technically I do

[carmine rose]

Does he

[leaden cobalt]

[indigo cave]

Maverick are you sure you aren't Ian's alt account?

[vapid pumice]

i dont know what creatura to play but i am thinking a snake.....!!!!

[wheat moth]

I don't know if any of these are even questions. No-one is using question marks!

[leaden cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/classified-top-gun-gif-776610220174644076

[coarse nimbus]

snake is fun, the creature is a neon green, egg hatched coah

[carmine rose]

Titanboa>every dinosaur in existence except Alberto

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-snake-venom-snake-mgs-metal-gear-gif-15188101309428107927

[carmine rose]

Rex Cera Troodon

[lone yew]

Troodon atp. Funny little creature.

[indigo cave]

Stego

[uncut mason]

I don’t really have a main, just kinda cycle through them all

[wheat moth]

An Iron Man challenge would be pretty cool for The Isle.

[uncut mason]

Idk carno

[carmine rose]

^

[primal prawn]

Are terrain textures bugged rn? Terrain textures look so flat

[leaden cobalt]

Phew good thing no one thinks I’m Ian

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-ankylosaurus-my-beloved-heart-gif-10140904461919489066

[wheat moth]

Yeah, it's a term I've heard used in fighting games, where you pick a character and have to win a game, then move onto another until you've won a game with the entire roster without losing. In The Isle's case, you pick a playable and have to Entomb as it, and then move on to another playable until you've done so with everything without dying. You have to reset if you die/lose.

[coarse nimbus]

i should crop it

[indigo cave]

What unemployment does to a mf 💀

[wheat moth]

Ooh, or a record version of the challenge

[carmine rose]

Tournament style - a bunch of people sitting in a call watching a movie rested in a bush

[coarse nimbus]

Boom even better now

[lone yew]

How it felt watching people talk about lipped rex for like 3 months straight

[wheat moth]

Well, with fighting games, games can be over in a few minutes. People stream those sorts of things. The Isle would be... Yeah, it'd take a good few sessions and a lot of luck.

[past dune]

I'm too awake to even think about this.
Bye chat.

[coarse nimbus]

nooooo hackerrrrr

[wheat moth]

Ciao for now.

[coarse nimbus]

well unless you actually do need the sleep

[lone yew]

How will I ever sleep at night as a disgusting, evil person?

[indigo cave]

Yeah I meant in the isle, it sounds fun for shorter session games

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-sus-dwayne-the-cow-johnson-cow-cow-eyebrow-cow-suspicious-gif-27165701

[wheat moth]

I have been drafting up some species-specific challenges. Those might be more digestible.

[carmine rose]

Any for Alberto?

[indigo cave]

Get a rex to prime entomb on ai only (no galli)

Edited again just for you albert

[carmine rose]

edit it again

[wheat moth]

Just the current roster. I'll make alberto's up when I see what it's capable of.

[carmine rose]

thank you

[carmine rose]

😈

[stone tiger]

Hello Brother

[small marten]

anyone got the picture for what the zones are and what they do again?

[carmine rose]

do I know you sir? but hello

[stone tiger]

Idk I am just being friendly to everyone

[carmine rose]

what a nice fella

[stone tiger]

Hello Rook Good morning

[carmine rose]

do you like Albertos?

[leaden cobalt]

Hi falcon

[stone tiger]

Yes I do Even though I main Allo, Dilo and Carno
But Rex is lovely as well