isle-discussion

[lapis orbit]

I think Sucho will be able to dive, just not as agile as Bary or as fast.

[midnight kernel]

Also i am just going full mobility and stam regen muts on theri and watching the world burn lol

[manic fulcrum]

I don’t remember too much but I know bary is def the most aquatic of the 3, but imo the spinoeaurids shouldn’t be reliant on water. More so terrestrial animal who are adapted well in the water than most other land carnivores

[subtle sleet]

But its still basically the same creature as Trike and Dibble but smaller, its gettin redundant lol.

[halcyon dove]

Won’t they all be able to? I don’t see why they wouldn’t when similar Dino’s share mechanics

[blazing jolt]

Same tought

[lapis orbit]

An individual mechanic per ceratopsian would have been neat. I know why Trike's stomp wasn't kept, but I was hopeful.

[manic fulcrum]

How the heck is a spinosaurus diving and not sticking its sail out of the water

[blazing jolt]

Sucho is said to be the most terrestrial of the 3, i hope that still means he can dive

[blazing jolt]

Lmao would need some deep water to hide

[halcyon dove]

Dive but the water is mud probably lol

[manic fulcrum]

Most rivers aren’t that deep. The only two possible areas Spino would likely be able to fully submerge itself would be like swamp, and the lakes

[blazing jolt]

I hope they are like a 50/50

[subtle sleet]

Pachyrhino was the only hope. 😔

[manic fulcrum]

And like maybe some spots of Riverdelta

[halcyon dove]

By the time we have spino well likely have that new map, can’t say this for certain

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[lapis orbit]

If we're to assume he'll be based on Bary, I don't see why they'd remove the mechanic to dive.

I just think it'll be used to escape things like Rex or Allo packs mostly. It'll wader and kind of take on a brown bear niche. Lumbering, slower, spending it's time fishing and not something to poke at. That's what I hope for.

I think Sucho will be something you choose to engage with most of the time.

[manic fulcrum]

I see both Spino & sucho like that. “I CAN use the water and dive. But I’m better off sticking to shallower water”

[halcyon dove]

Poor herbs never have a choice lol

[lapis orbit]

The humble Pachy when it sees something roughly the same size

https://tenor.com/view/superbad-dont-don't-do-it-kid-i-never-had-a-choice-jonah-hill-gif-2046658253421712368

[halcyon dove]

Foam forms at the mouth when I see a cera within flip range

[manic fulcrum]

Pachy went from pathetic to bully squad mascot in a single update

[halcyon dove]

And then I’m reminded that pachy headbutt is buggy af and I teleport through the cera

[lapis orbit]

I've genuinely been having such a blast with prime Pachy, you can easily body an adult Cera or Carno

[analog turret]

does pachy still feel kinda clunky to play?

[halcyon dove]

Yes

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah

[analog turret]

Boo hiss boo

[lapis orbit]

The ram leaves a lot to be desired, so often you just don't lift up for it unless you're staring straight ahead

[manic fulcrum]

Like pachy still has a lot of jank to it. But man that 700kg buff really buffed it

[halcyon dove]

Im constantly teleporting through things I hit, and sometimes I hit them on my screen, but not theirs. Sometimes I hit them they get stunned and then I’m teleported off a ledge life gives life takes.

[lapis orbit]

My last two Pachys only died to pinslop. I've been pinned by two Allos, lived and killed both with a small group. Omni pin however.. and rex? I wasn't so lucky.

[blazing jolt]

Me wanting to swin in the ocean has a Sailing spino

[halcyon dove]

God forbid I get a led break when I’m hitting a leg too

[manic fulcrum]

The ocean has no life to speak of

[lapis orbit]

I cast

body fracture

[halcyon dove]

Feels like I only get body fractures when I’m slamming legs/heads

[analog turret]

Sad days continue

[lapis orbit]

Pachy, Teno and Maia are the most fun playables in my experience. Diablo was kind of ruined for me with Rex and Allo groups.

Mostly prime Rex though

[halcyon dove]

We just need to copy how Rex crush works if they would get a body fracture or already have a body fracture our next ram cause the leg break. If Rex can do it this way why can’t pachy

[lapis orbit]

Because it's Pachy and not Rex, one of these clearly has more passion dumped into it.

[feral shadow]

Pachy mentioned

[halcyon dove]

5 ceras ruined dibble for me. I can’t do anything to 5 ceras lmao

[manic fulcrum]

Man I’m so happy crush doesn’t have locational damage

[halcyon dove]

Mods, shoot this guy

[lapis orbit]

I'm still salty that Rex got two call sets and Trike lost it's beautiful 4 call.

[manic fulcrum]

Silliest thing imo

[lapis orbit]

That's a lot of Ceras in general, I know two ceras can make quick work of even 2 diablos

[manic fulcrum]

Charge bite asmr

[lapis orbit]

I and a random 2v4 'd diablos, I wasn't prime and he was. One got away, but we killed 3.

[blazing jolt]

True, and its kinda of a shame

[halcyon dove]

3 ceras ttk on dibble is like 8 seconds lol. Can’t run either. Life is no rad

[lapis orbit]

Cera is stupidly easy

I feel like I have to give them more credit now that we have a 2-3 ton pinner.

[halcyon dove]

They don’t get solo pinned though

And cera has 0.6 innate bleed res. God knows how high it is with diet and mut

[blazing jolt]

I hit a headbut with trike on a rex body and a cerato body, the cerato took less bleed

[lapis orbit]

My main gripe with cera is that it has a little too much pursuit stamina for a corpse bully.

[halcyon dove]

60% bleed res is a hell of a drug

[lapis orbit]

Cera can chase for a long time

[blazing jolt]

He also has a very decent trot and AMAZING tracking skillks

[lapis orbit]

I'm still patiently hoping for Dilo drift

[clear iron]

Why are People complaining about cera now😭

[lapis orbit]

Not complaining, just discussing

You can disagree with something and not be complaining.

[clear iron]

From what ive read it sounds like yall want cera nerfs

[lapis orbit]

Never said nerf

[halcyon dove]

It’s like league, you only have 5 bans but they keep adding more turbo broken champs so you ban the new champ, doesn’t mean the old one is suddenly gone

[clear iron]

I never said you said nerf

Cera aint even good rn

[lapis orbit]

Never once did I advocate for a change, I just don't agree with it's stamina consumption.

[halcyon dove]

Theyre just trollin dont mind em

[lapis orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1231800415570493513.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=wavefutsuperskull

[clear iron]

Mhm im trolling sure bud

[lapis orbit]

I want more Mono content too

I'm not sure what niche it fills, but it looks silly on the topic of tracking.

[halcyon dove]

They might implement stink, like literally

[clear iron]

Hypsi but eats meat

[remote sandal]

asking for cerato nerfs in this allo and rex meta

[muted crypt]

As 4 cera we killed 7 dibbles and it wasnt even close

[lapis orbit]

Sneezes on you and makes you smell bad

[halcyon dove]

Back when the dev menu was available there was a variable for stink or w/e mono probably maxes it out

[lapis orbit]

Interesting

[clear iron]

That would be impossible if the dibles were good

[halcyon dove]

I wouldn’t doubt it, especially if you focus one at a time you’d drop a dibble every ~6-7 seconds

[muted crypt]

No. Cuz the server has gastronomic regen. Also cera can run circle around a dibble. Also if the dibbles accindently hit each other they get into sparring or pushing.

[halcyon dove]

God forbid one of you dies or a dibble dies, then the fight becomes impossible

[blazing jolt]

Cerato can also get a 50% damage resist buff mid hunt only has to kill one of them

[muted crypt]

If you want to have fun and you dont want to grow for ages, grow cera

[clear iron]

Yeah but if they were good they would have 1 tapped you when knocked down

[muted crypt]

No

[halcyon dove]

You WILL hold rmb and you WILL go deaf doing it

[muted crypt]

Hearing issues < winning a fight

[halcyon dove]

Spoken like a true cera main

[muted crypt]

All ceratopsians are lacking, lets just say that.

[halcyon dove]

Their kit was made in a world where no carnivore matched their size and there wasn’t 5 ceras walking round

[blazing jolt]

CC on ther alt atacks is a must currently

[halcyon dove]

I still find it funny that prime trike gets obliterated by 2 ceras if it doesn’t use the environment

[lapis orbit]

Hoping and pleading that the "can't scrape pouncers off" was a mistake

Bucking doesn't remove poucners 9/10 times in my experience and just destroys my stamina. I'm better off trying to get to water.

Not to mention, if anything is chasing you - you just have to let them hitch a ride because you need to stop to buck them.

[feral shadow]

Bucking needs a buff

[lapis orbit]

A rework even

[manic fulcrum]

It was just buffed. From my experience it gets them off within 10 seconds like 90% of the time. Which tbf you could just add a cap to how long they can hold on while bucking. It also uses like no stamina

[clear iron]

Bucking is op rn

[lapis orbit]

I had to run with an omni latched to my side all the way from West Rail's plains to the beach because I was being chased by something else.

Couldn't scrape it off on the run and sure as Hell couldn't stop to buck him off. He had enough stamina to stay on the whole way down the hill and only came off when I went into the ocean.

[manic fulcrum]

Video from yesterday. I still died cause it was like 10 Omnis but, there’s a few instances where the bucking does its thing

[lapis orbit]

Additional information, I was a Pachy running from a Diablo with said hitchhiker Omni

[desert niche]

Guys what mutations should i pick on my Rex ?

[lapis orbit]

Try it and find out, meta gaming is not the way to go.

[muted osprey]

Where bug report.
Or bug help.
or something.

I just bought the game for a friend and they're having issues just booting up the game.

[vapid aspen]

If I chose cannibalistic mutation and eat my specie can I still get prime?

[glacial panther]

#🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 for future reference in where to get help

But what’s their error popup

[median fulcrum]

If you have the mutation yes you Will still get prime

[lapis orbit]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧

[vapid aspen]

ty

[uncut mason]

https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/723315774344921138

[manic fulcrum]

3 instances of bucking working as intended and they all got off within like 3-5 seconds

[vapid aspen]

Does it change your skin colour when u chose cannibalisitc?

[mild mountain]

At what weigh can you swim without prime deinos being able to grab you?

[pliant birch]

recently aka like a month and a half ago

[median fulcrum]

Yes you become albino

[vapid aspen]

oh cool

[manic fulcrum]

Brother this was yesterday

[pliant birch]

I mean bucking changes

[vapid aspen]

like a warning sine of: THis guy gonna eat you no doubt

[muted osprey]

There is no error pop-up.

It thinks the screen is larger than it actually is and we can't get it to fullscreen because its cut off the apply button

[manic fulcrum]

Oh well that yeah

[lapis orbit]

Sounds like the resolution is wrong in game?

[pliant birch]

I still find it funny that people think bucking doesnt do anything and it just nukes your stam

[glacial panther]

Ah… that’s a weird one

Try clearing the config file, if you can force it to enter windowed mode with a keybind (not sure which keybind it’d be for your friend) that may help

[muted osprey]

How does one fix that. Because we can't click apply in settings

[manic fulcrum]

But anyways, I think the only thing I want for bucking is a hard time cap for bucking to get things off (like 5 seconds max)

And fixing alot of the input delay to bucking

[pliant birch]

wasnt the imput delay intended?

[manic fulcrum]

Maybe? But I find it rather clunky

[mild mountain]

Are Rexes ever safe to swim without Deinos grabbing it?

[pliant birch]

same, iicr they made it so its 3 seconds before you can buck

[manic fulcrum]

There was multiple times in that video where I should have been bucking but I wasn’t because the game was trying to stop previous animations

[lapis orbit]

It's still a massive waste of stamina if they don't come off quickly and in my experience, they never seem to.

For something like Maia who has attack that eat a lot of stamina and has awful bleed, bucking is incredibly fustrating.

[lapis orbit]

Unsure, can you hit enter to apply?

[manic fulcrum]

Or that my bucking stops altogether

[muted osprey]

• fixed it.
  Spam the reset button in settings.

[high flax]

Random question can troodon eat bones?

[lapis orbit]

No, only Deino and Cera can naturally

[high flax]

Thought so

[lapis orbit]

There's a mutation to eat bones if you want it, but you'll get no nutrients.

I tend to get it for my prime carnivores if I plan to nest or stay in a pack. Since you don't need nutrients and it's just easier on everyone.

[manic fulcrum]

Either way, I think bucking is in a really good spot. It needs some minor tweaks sure

Grapple is what I think needs adjustments. The math is a bit too forgiving

[midnight kernel]

F11 is the base keybind!

[manic fulcrum]

Only needing to weigh 101% (with thresholds) for grapple is rather silly

[halcyon dove]

I still hate that being pounced vanishes your attacks

[manic fulcrum]

[halcyon dove]

Rex crush does the same thing, pisses me off to no end

[lapis orbit]

Fellas, we should address the large birds in the room.

The birds being Theri and Deino, whose on what team?

I used to be on team Theri, but cherry has won me over recently. Looks like a brusier.

I hope they keep that shrill sound that Theri has in Legacy though

[wispy river]

Does omni bleed work well? I heard that omni bleed was weak or bugged, and it was better to use the damage attack instead of bleed. I didn't play omni because of that, what's the situation now?

[vague zinc]

I like both, those 2 are most anticipated of the far off species

[manic fulcrum]

Theri forever

[lapis orbit]

Left click and just bite them to death, does insane DMG. Don't bother bleeding it.

[vague zinc]

if I had to choose one it'd be theri

[manic fulcrum]

Cheirus is cool too

[lapis orbit]

So that's 2 Theris

OH, 2 cherries too

[wispy river]

Okie, so left click is better then. Thanks for info!

[halcyon dove]

Either works for me if I get to backhand a rex. Cheerio the duck will likely be better for solo survival cus it can use water as an escape though

[void marlin]

Spinosaurus concept

[lapis orbit]

I can only imagine that Theri will remain the fast bleeder it was in Legacy, hopefully. Theri could scare off a Rex.

[manic fulcrum]

[haughty bay]

spinoaahrus

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh I think a Theri should prob just run away from an adult Rex if I’m being real

[halcyon dove]

Ima be honest, 2 crushes max and leg break, theri dead. Such is life

[haughty bay]

just add indominus rex

[west grotto]

Gm guys

[vague zinc]

imo I think theri and cherius will co-exist, on both old and new concept arts theri shown in a swampy environment

[manic fulcrum]

Theri might have high bleed. But there’s no way its playing defense with a 9T Rex and surviving

[lost citrus]

They coexisted in real life

[vague zinc]

wait really

thats cool

[lost citrus]

Yeah they were both in the Nemegt formation

[void marlin]

Hello

[halcyon dove]

Murder chickens together strong

[void marlin]

But spinoharus...

[gentle valve]

but quetz

[void marlin]

Peak

[calm vessel]

Well the priority of a game is to give the community the best he can give but when the game and the admins are against the community idk what they are up to. great game many bugs many cheaters bad anti cheat and not helpt from support and most the community still plays the game and thinks this is the right thing to do well for me its not if you want to get insta killed and get zero help or support from any admin stay there and cheer for them i quit officials servers especially eu thx for that official server admins you opened my eyes👏🏼( my English are not perfect but you can get what i mean for sure)

[gentle valve]

yes

[halcyon dove]

Unicorn

[bronze rivet]

when bary

[midnight kernel]

A theris main defense against a rex is going to be that tail tanking hits. Just run. We kill subs and juvies galore, but the trikes stegos and camas gotta pull their weight dealing with the adults

[vague zinc]

I hope theri is a menace once more

[midnight kernel]

Kissen said something about theri having reach so im just picturing an allo player screaming as what normally would be tail hits turn into body hits as they run in a blind panic

[vague zinc]

[midnight kernel]

I think someone also said theri and cheri were around at the same time? So now im just picturing theri as the crazy aunt to a bunch of cheri chicks lol

[vague zinc]

Gunna be naming my Theri Tyberos iykyk (hoping it gets some red colours)

[feral shadow]

I think theri will be faster and more agile than rex

[midnight kernel]

It will have to be to survive

[feral shadow]

Yeah

Theri should be a threat to rex

[wraith hound]

luckily theri will be a menace to all that is smaller than it

[midnight kernel]

As a result i expect some rex speed nerfs inbound tbh. And not to adults. Absolutely lethal to subs tho

[glossy harbor]

Trike is very small and so weak, but Dibble is stronger when you are in the sanctuary, I have never died from Cerato and on the Trike just now xD

[midnight kernel]

Adult rex is near double theri in weight even if theyre similar sizes

[glacial panther]

I imagine theri could get a couple good whacks into Rex, just enough to flee and have the Rex reconsider running with the bleed

[vague zinc]

Nocturnal theri could be neat but on top of potential speed and bleed it may not need good NV aswell

[midnight kernel]

PLEASE nocturnal theri my beloved

I want to scare the hell out of people xD even suggested theri go completely still and have no idles if you stay in one spot so you get mistaken for a tree like quetz

But thats a bit of ambush pred behavior so eh

[vague zinc]

theri gunna be one of those dinosaurs that really stands outs when playing humans IMO

like I can see players who enjoy tarkov and dayZ coming in when gen 2 release and probably knwing a few dinosaurs but theri will just aura farm them

[glacial panther]

I wish bodies got flung more with ragdolls because dammit it’d be funny to whack something small as a theri and watch it fling to the side a little bit

[midnight kernel]

True. I kinda hope to ignore humans as a theri tbh. Theyd be super tiny and as long as they arent shooting at me ive got bigger fish to fry

[vague zinc]

Oh I'd still run at them for a giggle especially if they have voice chat

[midnight kernel]

LOL true

[vague zinc]

if dinosaurs cant understand human VC by default I'd like a mutation that lets them

[glacial panther]

LOL even if they have it so dinosaurs can’t understand humans
I think hearing nonsense get really loud suddenly gives a pretty good idea of their reaction

[midnight kernel]

Imagine if its scrambled noises and you have a mut to understand them. Ik theres a mut to be able to read human text apparently somewhere

[vague zinc]

"hey whats that standing in the fog lights outside the base"
the theri:

[midnight kernel]

Im just picturing an older player seeing a theri and going NOPE

[glacial panther]

I will hunt humans as a quetz

honestly I’m embracing the pelican mindset in: if i can swallow it whole it’s free game.

[midnight kernel]

And a younger one being cocky trying to shoot its tiny head, only to die 5 seconds later and get ripped apart like the dilo concept

[midnight kernel]

I see this being the mentality in general yeah LOL

[vague zinc]

I plan to use wader on theri just so no one is safe plus it just seems kinda troll to take, swim speed and wading build theri

[midnight kernel]

YES

[glacial panther]

Honestly depending on its kit wader might be really good for theri

[midnight kernel]

Im going wader stam regen all movement related muts theri

Cant catch me cant kill me vibes and ill run you down

[vague zinc]

bleed res, wader, swim, HP regen, stam regen all seem like solid choices

[glacial panther]

If it can turn pretty quick and keeps its face forwards then water would genuinely be your best friend because you’re more vertical than horizontal

[vague zinc]

I still take reabsorbtion every run its just to good

[midnight kernel]

Im ngl im prob not going to judge if a baby anything herbivore hides under my tail but im not going to take pains to defend them unless its another theri lol. Though i am mildly worried about team-killer theris

Traumatic is going to have to be a must

[vague zinc]

it'd neat if theri scarring was also just featherless patches

[midnight kernel]

Ooo true

Also hot take for nightvision and day vision: remember how we used to have the aoe around us of the area we could see before things got too dark?

[vague zinc]

think so

for what its worth the game was more fun and still spooky during update 4 with brightish nights and no NV Id argue it was more fun

[midnight kernel]

What if we took that, and for nocturnal creatures they got the same thing for daytime but instead of it being dark your vision just gets blurry past a certain point so its less eyekilling?

[vague zinc]

that'd just be painful on my human eyes are so long

[midnight kernel]

Yeah nightvision right now is...just a mess

[vague zinc]

it'd be nice if nocturnal creatures felt nocturnal

[midnight kernel]

Imo it doesnt add anything to the game but frustration for all creatures with bad night vision. Its a seemingly uneeded nerf

Id love to see that system improve and actually contribute things

[vague zinc]

this NV was alright

[midnight kernel]

Yeah that one was okay

[paper maple]

are there dif prime requirements now? i swear i did enough and still didnt get it

[midnight kernel]

I should get some pictures and mock up examples of what im thinking for nocturnal and diurnal creatures

[vague zinc]

nights like this with no NV were much more fun I didnt feel like going afk during the night

you can still a spooky/horror game without night being pitch black

[midnight kernel]

Yeah. Deep shadows but being able to see somewhat creates a game of hide and seek

[midnight kernel]

Did you crash at all while growing?

[paper maple]

nah

do the zones have to be active?

[vague zinc]

for what its worth, the NV during progession wasnt awful

[midnight kernel]

Hm. As far as the devs have said some reqs were added, but elders in general seem extremely buggy rn

[midnight kernel]

Yeah. Honestly the kind we have now is really rough to deal with

[paper maple]

as ptera i got perfect diet, visited 1 sanct, 2 migration, and like 5 patrols, no spasms, no infertile

[vague zinc]

I get the idea behind some species not having good NV but not being able to see at all when playin something like stego or maia isnt fun

[midnight kernel]

How long did you stay in each migration/patrol?

[paper maple]

but no 4th mutation

at least 10 seconds im pretty sure

do you have to be landed or can you still fly

[midnight kernel]

This. If i was forced to stop playing ark because of bad nightvision or any other survival game like dont starve or others, id drop it immediately. Instead i just switch to playing dinos with good vision

Test being on the ground and stay for a full minute at least

There might be a requirement involving staying for X amount of time in those zones

[paper maple]

it just sucks cos ptera grows so fast im trying to panic and get everything done before 75% lol, like getting the diet is hard af with how random the ai spawns can be

[midnight kernel]

Yeah its hard on little guys

[paper maple]

might just be a git gud moment idk lol

or be lucky

[vague zinc]

which sucks in itself because for exmaple rex has great NV, ive not played it yet and dont intend to I'd rather play the species I wanna play, now im not advocating for everything to have god tier NV but something above blind

[manic fulcrum]

At least imo I don't think the small guys should have to do much at all

[paper maple]

yeah im not gonna dominate the map as a bird lol

[primal flume]

7 more days

[primal flume]

omg ur pfp is that an oc of yours?

[manic fulcrum]

I still think specific requirments should have thresholds, and depending on your dinosaur/growth you should have to do a certain amount of something.

So for lets say Troodon you only have to visit one MZ and gain 10% in each diet but a Rex would have to visit like 6 different MZ's and gain like 80% in each nutrient

[midnight kernel]

It defeats the purpose of the trike/rex interaction ngl. If theyre going to blind trike and make it helpless at night then it should school rex during the day is the mentality that occurs

[manic fulcrum]

In a way yeah lol. More so just a cool guy I made

[cedar mauve]

[primal flume]

:3 send me ref, hes gonna get his first fanart

[midnight kernel]

Id rather trike have moderate vision at both day and night to encourage the player to react to the blurry movement it sees on its peripheral and hit first as questions later

[cedar mauve]

that's alot of

[vague zinc]

indeed

[manic fulcrum]

Prime requirements should def vary based on how much growth time you have to do things (especially since the game WANTS you to grow fast with nutrition)

[midnight kernel]

Mind when i say moderate i mean the aoe would be like 2 bodylengths or more away

[wise tide]

When/where was that the night vision? That looks better than what we have now.

[vague zinc]

if memory serves correct update 5? when we got the skin system back in evrima

[tulip glade]

austro

[wise tide]

Oh ok. A while ago then. Wonder why they went away from that to the green outline we have now? 🙁

[wraith hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1335079313266966689/attachment.gif

[vague zinc]

yeah it was a while ago but looking back its pretty solid

[paper maple]

i think legacy nv was still the best

having that radius

[rare tide]

I miss this NV so much 🙁

[somber urchin]

austro

[vague zinc]

progression NV wasnt terrible, still dark in areas but I can still see colour

[wise tide]

It's crazy. I joined the game just over a year ago, and besides adding some new playables, it feels like the game has just continued to add bad things, and never improve broken things. I thought it was just a hiccup in the development. Now learning about night vision and more of what the game used to be like, I see that issue continues back further than just my year of playing. 😕

Hoping for some positive things on The Isle in 2026. 🤞

[vague zinc]

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/108483416504196793/01B2F0D586FFDE24EA324C88A9CC3E1070B79527/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false woe original stegosaurus model be upon ye

[primal flume]

GOD ITS UGLY

i like the current one better😭

[vague zinc]

old pachy was... yeah

[wise tide]

That is gross. Ok, obviously some things have improved. I should also acknowledge the map improvements over the last year.

[somber urchin]

so grumpy

[vague zinc]

Progression with mutations now that could be kinda cool

[lost citrus]

[void marlin]

This is better ngl
Hi pigeon

[full wraith]

Any Bary news?

[vague zinc]

its the goat

[midnight kernel]

Adding progression as an optional game mode with entombing allowing you to reincarnate your dino or change to a different one would be interesting

[vague zinc]

I'd be down to see servers that mimic the OG game idea, 3 dinosaurs and some humans

[midnight kernel]

That will be easy enough to do once humans are in since they can select what dinos are playable

[void marlin]

🦐

[cinder cave]

I knew it

[midnight kernel]

Youd just need to mod in megaraptor

[vague zinc]

just use allo

[midnight kernel]

Could. The original concept for the game was rex, omni, and mega tho

[vague zinc]

true, also iirc it was deinonychus

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1451426152697696306/neverseensuchbsAllo.gif

[midnight kernel]

Either deinon or utah yeah i use omni to force myself to drop the utah habit lol

[vague zinc]

let him return to us

[midnight kernel]

Either way i hope to see some more server variety at some point

[patent ginkgo]

i wonder when do we gonna have new steam page

[vague zinc]

[midnight kernel]

MIGHT be sooner than we think? Im assuming the new trailer thats being made is for an updated steam page

[blazing jolt]

Cant wait to see it

[midnight kernel]

The little clip we got of austro was adorable

This upcoming HT might be the one they work on for the update so i hope its a long one and gets a lot if polish

[trail shard]

Lore? I smell lore..

[vague zinc]

original concept for the game not cannon I'd assume

[void marlin]

@cinder cave what do you think about this?

[midnight kernel]

Looks like a rex, a barry, and a utah

[vague zinc]

thats the old megaraptor

[cinder cave]

Absolute Spinosaurus

[midnight kernel]

Ahhh damn i didnt even realize thqt had art o.o

Thats cool as hell

[vague zinc]

had some strain art aswell

[trail shard]

Yeah Legacy strains .. but we have a Evrima hyper rex strain concept art ish..

[void marlin]

Wait, look what I put in the upper right corner of the drawing.

[midnight kernel]

All 3 have the same "tear" design around the eyes interesting

[blazing jolt]

I hope they make a maip mod some day

[vague zinc]

its tiny but neuro and hyper megaraptor art

[trail shard]

BANNN!!!

[midnight kernel]

God megaraptor was freaky in concepts lol

[blazing jolt]

Hatzgopteryx in the new Netflix doc was peak dino horror

[vague zinc]

anyone here remember the dakotaraptor model

[midnight kernel]

No way i had heard of it but not seen it. Its so slender

[vague zinc]

and a juvi

[stone tiger]

Bird

[midnight kernel]

THIS one is ringing a bell now

[vague zinc]

I do wonder what they did with the model

[midnight kernel]

Prob in an archive somewhere

Oooo it would be cool if they referenced these old models by putting them in human buildings in vats or as rotting corpses

[stone tiger]

Bird bird bird
BIRD IS THE WORD

[vague zinc]

old spino we didnt get for prog

[trail shard]

Looks very ancient

[vague zinc]

oh it is like 8-9 years ago

[stone tiger]

She has a crest

New spino has a crest?

[ember nimbus]

I Hope yes

Gives her so much aura tho

[midnight tundra]

Yall do you think the nv would be better if it was just the brightness boost without the outlines?

[lapis orbit]

A B or C

Kind of between A and B right now

[vague zinc]

A

[ember nimbus]

B

[lapis orbit]

Oh no

[glacial panther]

C

[ember nimbus]

Lmao

[cinder cave]

Nah, the outlines allow for more variation

[lapis orbit]

Omni it is

[vague zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-it-would-seem-gif-18322444

[lost echo]

[midnight tundra]

A or b. Flip a coin and if youre unhappy with the result you will know which you prefer.

[void marlin]

Not that you fake owl

[lapis orbit]

It shall be done, thank you

[void marlin]

🐟

[cinder cave]

My friend grows a Deino, I fear he is already lost

[void marlin]

I just grew a Deino

[ember nimbus]

How was ur experience

[midnight kernel]

My friend's first deino lasted 3 weeks i will never not be flabberghasted at his luck

[midnight tundra]

Day one Gateway looked better than update 4. Fight me.

[void marlin]

Croc

[cinder cave]

I think.., I miss my domes

[near marsh]

oh god I fear I'd kill them all

[void marlin]

Ur wrong
I win

[near marsh]

is there supposed to be another update soon? what's it supposed to be

[void marlin]

A patch, probally

[near marsh]

i hope it fixes organs..

[cinder cave]

Austro within 5 months

[near marsh]

oh damn nice

[craggy ridge]

Organs Fix, Rex Nerf, Prime Elder rebalance are my dream for the next patch

[void marlin]

Cera nerf when

[near marsh]

why does rex need nerf?

[midnight tundra]

The current nightvision is the best it has ever looked. Fight me.

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-digital-circus-digital-circus-circus-caine-bubble-gif-5419206279635370105

[void marlin]

No u

[cinder cave]

I’d agree to that

[burnt hill]

man what happened to the servers this time

[near marsh]

seeing as me and my friend killed a half grown+ as 2 almost grown allos

[void marlin]

Legacy has a feeling better than Evrima. Fight me.

[near marsh]

nono, I agree cera is spoiled rotten(y'all like my joke..)

[void marlin]

Lmao
-# Good enough?

[midnight tundra]

My only problem is that using lumen makes it much darker. But idk if thats possible to fix. Maybe just forcing lumen is the only way

[craggy ridge]

At minimum, the turn speed on it is insane. Adult Rex has agility comparable to Cerato which is crazy.

Otherwise, Id love if Prime Rex lost its speed boost. But thats a little less egregious than the turn speed itself and falls under Prime rebalance more than anything.

[midnight kernel]

I stare at the teno and cera balance being obliterated by power creep

[near marsh]

im so funny right guys :D

[cinder cave]

Its the adult rex people have a problem with, some people try to casually hunt an apex at full strength for food and get upset when they encounter a full grown apex at full strength

[near marsh]

ohhh,, yeaa ;-; it has turn speed? i mean i guess that makes sense cause in Jurassic Park it fights raptors but yea i guess that could seem problematic but we didn't have much problem yesterday fighting one

[craggy ridge]

Right now my biggest complaint with specific matchups is that currently Prime Rex V non-Prime Adult Trike is a Thermo-Nuke V Coughing Baby ahh match up. Its so heinous that Adult Trike, which cannot run nor hide just actually has to die if it gets seen by a Prime Rex (assuming both parties are solo)

[midnight kernel]

Yeahhhh

[flint bison]

Have they said anything about the new map?

[vapid aspen]

Why they made trik so fcking op? It's kinda dumb how easily it kills a trex

[near marsh]

i have a bleeding, passionate, enthralled hate for ceras, but i liked playing them! they're just like...loud annoying op mosquitoes they breed and appear like wildfire

[thin turret]

Anyone know when next server reset is? Thought it should be 5 mins from now but no in game announcement

[midnight kernel]

Elders i dont mind but the way the devs have talked about them in the blogs about a "nice small bonus" vs the 50% weight gain monstrosities us just disconnected on a whole new level

[craggy ridge]

Water Cera is currently my go to carnivore for solo play. The Swamps and Delta are your playground

[near marsh]

i love that definitely, i just hate when like 50 run out of one bush and you blink and your at the resp screen

[craggy ridge]

Fully agree. Honestly, I think Tenonton is the most reasonably balanced Prime Elder atm. It just doesnt entirely feel like it because most others are 'wtf' strong in comparison

[craggy ridge]

Got sent back to spawn by all dat bad breaf 😭

[cinder cave]

Refwoods

[midnight kernel]

That is true. But in general, id rather "prime" be some weight gain, no other stat changes, and access to prime muts that boost utility

[cinder cave]

#evrima-na message

[midnight kernel]

THAT would be a nice small bonus and possibly encourage players to not hide immediately

[lucid urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1465475201235026240/109ec52a-46a2-440b-8ab6-02e48ba68686_text.gif

[daring imp]

wdym ''new map''

[near marsh]

i think prime is good how it is with how it works, but maybe some changes to the scale of that boost

[flint bison]

Pretty sure Dondi said they are doing a new map

[cinder cave]

There’s an additional map being worked on

[craggy ridge]

I'm kinda ok with some stat boosts if they're fun. But right now most Primes are just 'wtf' too strong and really throw the balancing for some playables in a loop

[daring imp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/white-cat-why

[lucid urchin]

Gateway misbehaves.

[cinder cave]

Why not?

[midnight kernel]

Carno is just broken. Rex is just broken. No opinions on cera cuz its speed stays the same i think

[flint bison]

I doubt we'll see it for a few years

[craggy ridge]

Lowkey, Prime Rex pretty much feels like Hyper Rex Lite

[void marlin]

Cera is mid

[daring imp]

Wasn't the whole point of gateway to make a cool lasting map and all the changes and humas structures and what not ?

[lucid urchin]

But I'll say that the new map has been ALLUDED to. Not directly confirmed in words. Don shared a gif that seemed to hint towards a new map being made.

[cinder cave]

I bet within 2 years

[near marsh]

i miss being absolutely "where in the gods' ass am i" like the first time I played

[cinder cave]

There can be more than one map

[feral shadow]

I'm hoping theres more than one mao

[midnight kernel]

I fully expect the game to have like 3-4 maps by the time its fully out tbh

[cinder cave]

Well Gateway is still being worked on, I doubt they’d continue to work on it if they knew it was going to get scrapped

[daring imp]

As long as it's not made by mr Dondi and his very visible brush strokes tbh

[craggy ridge]

Cera and Allo both slightly slowdown reaching peak/87.5% then drop off

[cinder cave]

They have someone that helps with maps, I can’t remember their name, starts with a J I think

[void marlin]

Mao

[lucid urchin]

Jace?

[void marlin]

Jenice?

[cinder cave]

Yes I think so

[cedar mauve]

Joe?

[midnight tundra]

This is the only thing we know: #isle-discussion message

[daring imp]

Yeah I know, I'm saying you can clearly tell when he worked on the map and when.. someone else.. worked on the map

[near marsh]

id love choices between multiple because there would be different favorite dinos on each map ideally

[void marlin]

Tom

[cedar mauve]

ok

[midnight kernel]

Allo in general is massively overtuned on bleed. Omni is also overtuned on dmg and needs pounce fixes. Theres a lot of balance changes as well that are needed to fix the problem of "X dino looks twice as big as me but only has 1,000 hp so its nearly half my weight"

[void marlin]

Why are we burning lilly

[midnight kernel]

I look at the sub rex that ran straight into my angry tenos behind and died immediately

[midnight tundra]

Is there some kind of code problem with gateway?

[daring imp]

Nah I think they just realized its way to linear

[near marsh]

cause I'm cooking with fire and need extra fuel :P

[midnight kernel]

Meanwhile a baby cera thats the same size as a baby teno will be twice as heavy

[cinder cave]

I think if they can get GUTS to work, gateway would be beautiful

[near marsh]

clockk it

[lost citrus]

I don't think they are making a new map because gateway is bad, I think they've always planned to have more than 1 map for the game

[cinder cave]

Mhm

[near marsh]

what's that mean 🧐

[daring imp]

Get to work ? How do building assets not work lmao ?

[cinder cave]

Unreal Engine is possessed and underground structures break things

[daring imp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/real-and-true-cat-walking

[near marsh]

ohh that makes sense,

[glacial panther]

move slowly as to not frighten unreal engine

[midnight tundra]

Gateway was beautiful. Legit the only good change in gateways history was adding a sanctuary in highlands.

[cinder cave]

NOW WUICK JUMP ON IT BEFORE IT GETS AWAY

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-steve-irwin-danger-crocodile-hunter-gif-13673331

[near marsh]

it's like taming a cat in Minecraft and it offing itself into the ocean cause i "looked at its eyes"

[daring imp]

When he died our reality went to shiz

[lost citrus]

I get it, my neighborhood crows get freaked out by eye contact too

[midnight tundra]

Are you making these or are you part of some obscure subreddit?

[lost citrus]

nah the world has always been like this

[daring imp]

Yeah sure but atleast we had Steve Irwin 🙁

[analog turret]

The loss of harambe was what fractured our current timeline into the bad one

[daring imp]

Woah bro don't say it outloud

[slow lintel]

is your game running now?

[daring imp]

No, it has no legs

[lost citrus]

Yeah but the reality is that the traits we respect in him are present in people all around us, it's just harder to see because they aren't on tv

[grand grotto]

I wish I'm not that talented to make these and I just like them I think they are cool

[near marsh]

literally cause are we stupid or did we put our common sense in the water fountain with the pocket change

[slow lintel]

hmmmmmmm i seeee

[midnight tundra]

Bro cant afford cutlery 💀

[daring imp]

Also I'm not gonna touch the isle until they release the new HT

[grand grotto]

Nah I just can't make them

[void marlin]

I eat ghosts

[manic fulcrum]

Peak reference

[slow lintel]

I will order them to release the new ht today now deer. Dont be angry at the isle deer play it today now thanks

[manic fulcrum]

Trusurrealguy. Returns

[daring imp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-comment-quiet

[void marlin]

Salty the salt

[manic fulcrum]

It goes without saying

[slow lintel]

oh deer

[void marlin]

What about Salty the sugar

[slow lintel]

which game?

[manic fulcrum]

Islandia

[slow lintel]

hmmmm the isle. bery good game bery good game. I play it sometimes today now deer

[void marlin]

Deer beer ieer

[manic fulcrum]

Dem deer here

[daring imp]

I think ''The isle'' sounds best in spanish

[void marlin]

A Ilha — Portuguese

[daring imp]

My point stands xD

[muted crypt]

Dismantle

[daring imp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/40k-warhammer-2

[void marlin]

JJK fan 0/10 get out

[muted crypt]

I know more than u lil bro

[kind forum]

https://tenor.com/view/necron-dance-warhammer40k-wh40k-warhammer40000-gif-25711280

[void marlin]

No u dont. I know how to read

[daring imp]

Die Insel in german it sounds like ''die incel* xD

[void marlin]

Lmao

[muted crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/nerding-speech-bubble-pepe-nerd-gif-26077806

[void marlin]

_ _
_ _
_ _
_ _
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(Offensive tone)

[kind forum]

beans

[past dune]

I cant even rn

[glacial panther]

oh no

[past dune]

My Pokémon Arceus save file got corrupted and I lost 7 hours.

[peak vigil]

Just think of it like your 7 hour trike getting ambushed by two rexes

[past dune]

Now I'm thinking about The Isle.

My day just keeps getting worse.

[glacial panther]

ooohh isle ooooh isle lighting oooohhh

[near marsh]

arf

[sonic canopy]

Guys how do you make camo skins like proper green camo skins in the isle like im talking about moss type of green camo skins

[rigid nacelle]

my the isle suddenly crash and now it says error

[past dune]

Hey at least Isle lighting is better than Pokémon lighting... not a hard bar to clear. But it does.

[peak vigil]

Oh crap uhhhhh what if you instead imagine it as if you were playing pokemon and your save file corrupted 7 hours in!

[past dune]

Thats more tolerable

[near marsh]

not anymore because whoever changed skin palettes hates me and wants me to cry

[rigid nacelle]

does anyone got disconnected

[midnight tundra]

You cant

[manic fulcrum]

Skin pallets are gonna get an update soon anyways

[sonic canopy]

Ok 😦

[near marsh]

is it error 30004?

[manic fulcrum]

Hacker what are your thoughts on X thing in the Isle, do we need to buff it? 🫱 🎤

[past dune]

Buff it anyways.

[near marsh]

just click refresh.. wait for them to come back up this normal

[manic fulcrum]

Thank you, this will go on record that you think trike needs to be nerfed. The public will know

[near marsh]

oh god no everyones run out of yap

[chilly burrow]

Hello, fellow players and fans of the video game „the isle“

[near marsh]

your too late, they e lost the funny

[chilly burrow]

I am the funny

[near marsh]

oh. they chaventgfknd you yet

have not

[flint bison]

Is there a list of all the species coming?

[near marsh]

NEVER how DarE- no I'm kidding idek

I've just come back after almost a year of not being able to play so like,not a clue

[glacial panther]

what if……….
the isle……?

[near marsh]

😰

[halcyon burrow]

In Game (20)
-Allosaurus
-Beipiaosaurus
-Carnotaurus
-Ceratosaurus
-Deinosuchus
-Diabloceratops
-Dilophosaurus
-Dryosaurus
-Gallimimus
-Hypsilophodon
-Maiasaura
-Omniraptor
-Pachycephalosaurus
-Pteranodon
-Stegosaurus
-Tenontosaurus
-Triceratops
-Troodon
-Tyrannosaurus

• herra

AI Only (3)
-Compsognathus
-Psittacosaurus
-Pterodactylus

Next Batch (9)
-Austroraptor
-Kentrosaurus
-Baryonyx
-Oviraptor
-Avaceratops
-Camarasaurus
-Quetzalcoatlus
-Parasaurolophus
-Spinosaurus

Definitely/Probably Coming (16)
-Acrocanthosaurus
-Albertosaurus
-Ankylosaurus
-Brachiosaurus (AI?)
-Deinocheirus
-Giganotosaurus
-Homalocephale
-Magyarosaurus
-Megalania
-Minmi
-Monolophosaurus
-Protoceratops
-Rugops
-Shantungosaurus
-Suchomimus
-Therizinosaurus
-Utahraptor (Skin?)

Probably Dead (8)
-Brontosaurus
-Carcharodontosaurus
-Corythosaurus
-Diplodocus
-Orodromeus
-Pachyrhinosaurus
-Plateosaurus
-Styracosaurus
-Velociraptor

Definitely Dead (3)
-Puertasaurus
-Rauisuchus
-Titanoboa

[flint bison]

Damn, thanks

[peak vigil]

Pachyrhino and styraco

[shadow crane]

😋

[viral obsidian]

Suche einen deutschen Mate wäre cool Mal zu 2 zu zocken gerne dm 😊

[stoic mica]

https://tenor.com/view/funeral-flowers-grave-gif-5518042

[blissful shoal]

There is still yet hope, they haven’t been taken behind the shed yet.

Styraco has been hinted towards being taken out back, but afaik nothing has been said about rhino.

[vague zinc]

oh it has

[vague zinc]

someone asked kissen about rhino and she said Im going to hold your hand when I say this, so I assume its a goner

I could be wrong but thats how I read it

[frail moon]

This was my interpretation also. I still cry myself to sleep

[vague zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-drinking-steve-harvey-head2seoker-drinking-party-gif-5069515457533912064

[blissful shoal]

Rhino would be so cool as a fracture ceratopsian between dib and trike

[vague zinc]

after all these years my favourite dinosaur has been offed

Oh well Ive still got bary, ovi and theri

[analog turret]

No mid/large battering ram animal 🙁

[blissful shoal]

Rhino is one of the ones I was most looking forward to

[surreal shadow]

Don’t forget big snake Titanoboa prolly dead too

[blissful shoal]

Snake is 100% dead

[analog turret]

Aghwell, the roster is already bloated to hell so I guess a few scraps isn’t a bad thing

[peak vigil]

Worst case scenario someone will make a mod for it eventually, these animals are popular enough to get someone talented to do it 🙏

[vague zinc]

agreed

[dense kestrel]

in 25 years one can hope

[blissful shoal]

True, but we shall have to hope it has anywhere near the quality

[wise tide]

If that list is true (and I believe you that it is), that still seems like too many dinos. Just the in game, definitely, and probably equals 45 dinos. And even distro, that's just 2 per, with a few at 3 for a sever of 100.

[near marsh]

well, ideally we would have some with extra player space

[blissful shoal]

Iirc they are thinking about making certain servers have certain selections of the roster.

[sleek marsh]

That is a terrible idear

[chilly whale]

https://tenor.com/view/update-game-game-update-gif-13330659533985679719

[near marsh]

agreed

[blissful shoal]

I don’t think it’s bad, so long as there is an official with all options and unofficials can choose their options.

[near marsh]

i bed your pardon

[peak vigil]

An official server with only small animals :)

[sleek marsh]

That will destroy servers. I wanna play Rex with my friend on a medium pop, low rules, decent ping server, oops the only one that fits that restricts Rex. Okay now I have to pick a higher pop, or different rules, or higher ping server, I am now upset. My friend is also upset.

[blazing jolt]

A server based on the morison formation would go hard

[chilly whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040415733374533675/1253881115488423946/convert-1.gif

[blissful shoal]

Well if you play on a low rules server, that automatically means you’re not playing officials. And unofficials can already just turn off what they want. So you would see 0 difference than now.

[wise tide]

Now that would be nice!

[sleek marsh]

AFAIK they can't turn anything off but they can set a limit for a species

[hoary sage]

They set a limit by using a bot to turn off the species dynamically

[past dune]

Rhino has been hinted at, Styraco is almost certainly dead, since according to the modeler behind the Styraco from a few years ago, the team decided not to take it... so I doubt they even have that model.

[blissful shoal]

No they can just make it so you can’t spawn as a certain species. Peris just has a specific system to turn it off and on

[hoary sage]

The limit is a server addon, the turning off species is part of the game

[sleek marsh]

Lol wait its not even an official server hosting setting? You need a bot?

[blissful shoal]

Yep

[hoary sage]

To dynamically disable species. Disabling species in general is built into the game

[sleek marsh]

Oh so I could make a server where the only pickable dino is rex?

[hoary sage]

Yes

[blissful shoal]

Yep

[blazing jolt]

The bot disables/enables species based on the number of them in the map

[chilly burrow]

Gotta hack the servers and turn off Rex and Allo on all of them

[past dune]

Unofficial servers are rather limited when it comes to functionality. Most servers only away with what they do thanks to modding.

[sleek marsh]

Why do devs hate unofficial servers so much

[past dune]

They don't.

[void marlin]

Or do they?

[sleek marsh]

Thats neat how come no one does it? Or do they

[hoary sage]

Because it would suck?

[past dune]

They are not neglected out of hatred.
They are neglected because the devs simply have other priorities.

[daring imp]

game would be unplayable without unofficials

[blissful shoal]

Because it kills a server atm, due to already having a low roster size.

[void marlin]

POOKIE!!!!

[sleek marsh]

Okay so my original gut feeling is right, restrictions are an issue not a positive

[dense kestrel]

dondi has stated numerous times theyre the future of the isle server wise

[void marlin]

POOKIE!!!!!!

[dense kestrel]

[past dune]

You are an enigma.

[hoary sage]

"no one would play a server that only has rex enabled so being able to choose your roster is bad" is that what I'm hearing?

[void marlin]

Oh, you hate me...

[dense kestrel]

no its not u dw pookster

[void marlin]

Anyway, what happened?

[past dune]

Yeah.

[dense kestrel]

nothing idk

[sleek marsh]

If we can choose roster NOW and no one is doing it then there must be a reason that outweighs all the positives

[void marlin]

Shutup

[past dune]

Because the community is unlikely to play on a server that has a restricted roster.

[dense kestrel]

hacker is so mean

[blissful shoal]

Because we have a small roster atm, there’s no benefit currently

[cinder cave]

Feathered Galli When

[hoary sage]

People are already choosing the server rosters, and most servers leave them largely intact due to the relatively low number of species

[void marlin]

Never

[sleek marsh]

Oh really...lmao that's my point

[hoary sage]

At least 55 species are planned to be added officially, I can imagine there'll be servers then that simply nix some playables

[sleek marsh]

20 dinosaurs is not a small roster

[past dune]

Because the community couldn't possibly stomach being unable to play their favorite playable.

[dense kestrel]

such a beautiful number

[wet inlet]

bruh 5 pz and no prime task completed 🙁

[sleek marsh]

Right this was my entire point. People want specific servers due to ping and rules. By adding restricted rosters, now you're filtering even harder

[jaunty verge]

lol they cant even fix bugs and you think they're releasing this many? 😂

[neon scaffold]

We are nearly halfway there lol

[somber urchin]

[past dune]

Give it a decade or two.

[sleek marsh]

Yeah after 10 years

[manic fulcrum]

Did you try to see if the PZ’s were actually active

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/hedgehog-minecraft-gif-744893772183119406

[chilly burrow]

Wow! A game in active development has bug??? what da hel?

[neon scaffold]

Less than 6 years, evrima turns 6 in may

[vapid aspen]

How the f do I die to a trik spamming front attacks when I'm tailing him?

[sleek marsh]

Super Mario still has bugs

[dense kestrel]

he exists

[past dune]

Me when the early access game is... actually is it even valid to describe it as early access? They certainly don't act like an early access game.

[sleek marsh]

Oh yeah I mean the entire time but sure

[jaunty verge]

You might have a point if they didnt leave game breaking bugs unchecked for months or stay in early access for 10years

[manic fulcrum]

Guys do I play Cerato or Allo

[analog turret]

Cerallo

[dense kestrel]

kinda fed up of this sorta conversation ngl happens so much

[sleek marsh]

Me when you make a game and dont have enough devs or money to complete it and then wanna recode it so you say its early access even tho its nowhere near early you just wanted to reset

[lost citrus]

"game breaking bugs"

[neon scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/allosaurus-us-gif-15275641593748382902

[manic fulcrum]

Cerato it is

[cinder cave]

I’ve generally found going into an argument with people who say incorrect things from the get go result in a net zero argument where nothing happens except people getting frustrated

[neon scaffold]

[jaunty verge]

Yes, like getting organs stuck in your mouth and having to force log off and logging back on dead

[dense kestrel]

couldnt have put it better myself

[lost citrus]

They've fixed that bug multiple times, it just keeps coming back

Like that's how programming goes sometimes lol

[vague zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/fehlerhaft-fehler-bugs-bug-gif-26196067

[past dune]

They... do have the money, and the dev team, and the recode was more than necessary. I more bring up the distinction of early access to point at the style of updates we've seen not fully aligning with a normal early access mindset. Not to mention the time it's been in early access and being focused primarily on content drops and additions rather than further refining of the foundations... all just feels misaligned with the label Early Access.

[lost citrus]

too slow

[past dune]

Hey wait thats me

[cinder cave]

Is your pfp one of those repo dudes

[past dune]

Nah man.
YAPYAP.

[lost citrus]

nah it's a similar game that uses voice controls

[cinder cave]

Coolio

[sleek marsh]

Whoa there, nah they don't. The recode was necessary (because they failed to properly code the game in the first place) and yes their idea of early access doesn't align with typical ones.

[blissful shoal]

No I think it’s repo

[somber urchin]

i feel like people take issue with the "early" in "early access", as silly as it is.

[sleek marsh]

If they had the money to make this game it'd be released by now. They have the money to drag out their development and do as much as they can sure, but they need more. more employees

[past dune]

Isnt the game... already released?

[cinder cave]

Pardon?

[somber urchin]

more cooks in the kitchen...

[void marlin]

I have a question I think

[lost citrus]

Money isn't the reason this game moves slowly, devs have made that clear many times

[neon scaffold]

Nah bro you died 10 years ago and hell is being forced to play an unfinished version of the isle for eternity

[sleek marsh]

That is a fat lie. If they were a AAA dev studio it would not be taking this long

[past dune]

I take issue with the title because The Isle does not fit most definitions of early access... at least from a development standpoint.

[midnight kernel]

...theyre not AAA tho?

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wait-youre-serious-let-me-laugh-frowning-robot-gif-14586647

[sleek marsh]

More money more devs = faster development

[vague zinc]

yeah this is an indie company not AAA

[cinder cave]

This isn’t a AAA studio, and that’s not how that works

[past dune]

God I wish.

[cinder cave]

Nah

[grand grotto]

I take issue with there not being any apples in the isle

[sleek marsh]

OBIVOUSLY. What is the difference between them and a AAA studio? Money to spend on hiring devs. Wowee guys

[midnight kernel]

They only just finished training a few new devs too i thought so things are speeding up a bit?

[void marlin]

The Isle isn't a indie game. Indie The Isle is game

[somber urchin]

yeah sure! i usually refer to the isle as "in active development" rather than early access.

[cinder cave]

And also just the general structure and how things function

[analog turret]

AAA studios have the funding to employ not just large teams in their studios, but also employ many outsourcing teams

It’s why AAA games can have hundreds and hundreds of people in the credits

[past dune]

Yeah, thats more correct.

[sleek marsh]

That changes with access to better resources so again more money would make this game be done faster

[lost citrus]

Screw AAA companies, they wouldn't even try to touch an untested concept like this, they'd rather remake the same stuff 30 times

[vague zinc]

this has to be bait

[past dune]

Shhh
Let him keep going

[cinder cave]

AAA studios are massive corporations designed for profit, Indie studios are more like paid group projects from how I understand it

[lost citrus]

"AAA companies would do it better"

Except they'd never do it at all

[sleek marsh]

Sure but imagine giving Dondi AAA money tomorrow and what he could do with it

[manic fulcrum]

Faster development doesn’t mean better development

[cinder cave]

You’d still have to train everyone in how to work with funky dinosaurs instead of baseline humanoid stuff, because it is different

[sleek marsh]

Slower doesn't either tho

[lost citrus]

I know you think this is a genius idea

But people who know nothing about game development have been saying this for years lol

[sleek marsh]

Lol funky ya they are

[manic fulcrum]

Yes so neither are required as long as what’s pumped out is good

[cinder cave]

Rip Concord and Highguard

[analog turret]

And also train them to learn the games dev pipeline, any custom internal tools etc etc

[midnight kernel]

If this game would do better under AAA youd see a AAA making it, objectively speaking. The demographic of players for dino games is in the thousands, not the millions like FPS games and MMOs

[sleek marsh]

Im 10000% sure if dondi popped in here right now and someone offered him AAA backing for the game he would take it

[cinder cave]

AAA funds help, but absolutely are not the deciding factor

[neon scaffold]

Yeah guys, if the isle was AAA then we would have it finished in 2 years and it would be very high quality like pokemon!

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-zach-hadel-laughing-gleb-gif-24432445

[sleek marsh]

@cinder cave Are these arguments?

[lost citrus]

I would put actual money against that lol

[burnt junco]

@cinder cave i got a question. It says you cant use any 3rd program to play the isle. so is it not allowed to use nvidia overlay and turn up the brigthness?

[cinder cave]

We don’t ban for that

[manic fulcrum]

Didn’t Don mention how AAA studios have reached out and he refused them

[void marlin]

I wouldn't do it better

[burnt junco]

thanks for the answer ^^

[cinder cave]

That doesn’t seem like something that would happen

[jaunty verge]

Yeah I can imagine he wouldnt like answering to investor complaints

[past dune]

I doubt we would see any difference.

Because that's not the style or methodology they approach the game with.

More money doesn't mean they would radically shift development. That's just simply not how that works, they already have money, they are just fine with a slow pace of development.

What they do within that pace, and how they plan the development can, and certainly should be scrutinized... but the assumption that more money, or "Triple AAA" development practices would radically shift the pace and mentality behind it, just doesn't make any damn sense.

[lost citrus]

You're saying very silly things while ignoring everything that more experienced people are telling you

[void marlin]

🧱

[past dune]

Yum

[slate trellis]

🥱

[cinder cave]

He’s already got a community full of passion and genius ideas

[void marlin]

You're welcome

[sleek marsh]

Okay because you're all being obtuse let me be perfectly clear here. Someone tells dondi they will fund this game AAA with no strings attached just get it done. He can do ANYTHING he wants, no studio control over him at all

[neon scaffold]

I bet you could make a wall out of those...

[slate trellis]

i swear dibble needs more nerfs. its too strong right now

[past dune]

Thats one way to put it.

[void marlin]

Bet

[midnight kernel]

Theres one thing i know ive seen and can confirm and its that this team rightfully hates Crunch. No crunch. Never. They can take their time and work normal hours.

[neon scaffold]

See that just doesnt happen though

[cinder cave]

There will always be strings, which is the flaw in your argument

[jaunty verge]

He can't ignore investors, he can ignore us

[past dune]

Then it likely wouldn't mean much in the long run.

[midnight kernel]

AAA = Crunch and abuse

[sleek marsh]

That is a flawed presupposition

[bronze rivet]

Ima release bary kentro n austro at da end of dis month dw da isle is saved

[void marlin]

🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱

[past dune]

Thats a nice wall buddy.

[cinder cave]

It’s his game, his company, he can do with it what he likes

[lost citrus]

The thing is, you are fighting a fight that was lost years ago

We've all seen this conversation before, we know how it goes

[neon scaffold]

@past dune wall

[cinder cave]

It’s an extraordinarily realistic assumption

[void marlin]

Thx!!!!

[jaunty verge]

Thats the point, he wont take investment because then it forces him to be accountable

[hoary sage]

you forgot the grout that thing will topple

[past dune]

Oh, thats what you were getting at.
Well that's dissapointing.

[sleek marsh]

Things change

[cinder cave]

Or he actually cares and wants it to be his

[slate trellis]

ill actually buy this wall from you if you make more walls faster

[void marlin]

Sorry I fogor

[lost citrus]

Because he's an artist and doesn't want to sell his IP

Y'all don't seem to realize you usually give up the personal rights to your IP when you get investors

[chilly burrow]

Can I buy one? I got a really nice street in Berlin I want to put it on

[sleek marsh]

If dondi made more money from this game he'd spend more money on it. There's no argument here

[cinder cave]

Selling something I worked on for 10 years and watching someone else drive it into the ground sounds god awful

[cinder cave]

Money is not an issue for the devs

[sleek marsh]

All you're saying is he doesn't and its likely he wont. You're not arguing my point

[slate trellis]

yeah why not drive it into the ground yourself

[midnight kernel]

Have you thought about the idea that maybe he is making enough money on it and is being justifiably picky with who he brings onto the team because theres been issues in the past?

[past dune]

I've talked to quite a few publishers at this point and every single one, even the most charitable options... who I would still like to work with, demand some level of influence over the IP. Varying degrees of course, but I have yet to find a single one that actually allows full unrestricted freedom.

[lost citrus]

I just love people taking an artistic endeavor and going "why can't we capitalize this further?"

[void marlin]

🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱

[cinder cave]

Money money money

Must be funny

[sleek marsh]

I know you say and think that but I disagree

[chilly burrow]

Thank you! Have a fish 🐟

[cinder cave]

Cool

[void marlin]

You're welcome yay

[midnight kernel]

My brother watched this in real time when his boss sold a construction company and it died in 2 years flat

[past dune]

I have yet to see any evidence to contradict even the lowest estimates of steam sales.

[cinder cave]

That is almost verbatim what Don has said

[lost citrus]

they've told us multiple times that money isn't an issue

[neon scaffold]

Then ur wrong ggs go next discussion lets talk about the state of ceratosaurus i think it needs more buffs

[sleek marsh]

Then hes lying. Money is always an issue. If he was making nothing off this game it wouldn't even exist at all lol

[slate trellis]

AGREED! if it cant kill rexes in packs its not good enough

[slate trellis]

bro they are making money, quite alot of it

[void marlin]

High low quality wall for y'all

[blissful shoal]

If money was an issue, there’s so many things the devs would be able to do EASILY to make some. But they don’t because they don’t need it and it goes against their morals.

Throw in some skins, make some dinos paid, add a battle pass, etc.

[sleek marsh]

From what lol

[cinder cave]

If you’re not willing to take what information we are given, this isn’t a discussion, this is you making stuff up

[slate trellis]

gee i dont know, the millions of steam sales

[cinder cave]

As such, we will be moving on

[void marlin]

This is making me angyr

[analog turret]

What we need is the finance spreadsheet of the isles spendings and earnings to get to the bottom of this 😎

[chilly burrow]

Do not let the anger rule thy soul

[cinder cave]

I hope they give gen 2 leaver action rifles and break action shotguns

@sleek marsh Please don’t spread misinformation

[silver bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

[void marlin]

No, you're a fake owl

[vague zinc]

clearly gen 2 need power swords

[past dune]

Steam sales?
The absolute lowest value I've seen is roughly 31.5 Million dollars.

That would be more than enough to sustain development for decades.

[midnight kernel]

Now you just made me think about a crazy ass human jumping on a theri and it bucking around lmao

[sleek marsh]

Please dont call my opinions misinformation

[void marlin]

Guys I have an idea

[feral shadow]

Heat rays

[past dune]

Then back it up with some evidence buster.

[glacial panther]

on a scale of one to

[void marlin]

Hear me out...
Dryo gun

[manic fulcrum]

Aubro

[past dune]

Astr

[silver bloom]

I think we need bary so everyone stops fighting guys

[somber urchin]

aubs

[feral shadow]

Austin

[void marlin]

Autism

[analog turret]

Barysaurus is cool

[nimble raven]

[manic fulcrum]

Woah 🤯 that’s too far

[chilly burrow]

Yes?

[void marlin]

Barysuchus

[past dune]

I think they shouldnt release an update for the next 6 or 7 months to focus on prepping the build for the switch to public branch.

[peak vigil]

Sorry how many months

[neon scaffold]

Cerato should lose body buff and its base weight should be increased to 2.6 tons or whatever its effective hp is after body buff, it should be completely immune to all forms of cc, and if it gets pinned it should reverse suplex them to the ground for an instakill. I think then it would be balanced

[chilly burrow]

Maybe

[void marlin]

We should take over the world

[feral shadow]

You beat me to it

[past dune]

Like a few.

[manic fulcrum]

Unironically yes

[peak vigil]

Oh okay 👍

[lucid urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wade-thewadeempire-terrell-nvqfH654J2gMbFqJ30

[silver bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[void marlin]

6 and 7 or 6 and 9?

[slate trellis]

dont remove body buff and THEN increase weight

[neon scaffold]

Wait ur so right

[void marlin]

Delete Cera

[neon scaffold]

Wait ur so right

[cinder cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1479197584953315515/1479261527671570594/image.png?ex=69b00267&is=69aeb0e7&hm=e081e43e577f0d744329c51542152d2d8c3501d91c25fd270733b526f02a7cb1&

[silver bloom]

this guy looks so much like ugo lord

[void marlin]

I still read "x00 cera butts" lmao

[blissful shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324737703127945370/1380649230464585748/ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[slate trellis]

i had to fight a cera yesterday as a dibble and i have no idea how he rocked me as much as he did

[void marlin]

Minmi should have Cera in his diet

[cinder cave]

Goblin magic

[chilly burrow]

I read the Fs as the Cyrillic Г

[void marlin]

500 cera nerfs

[slate trellis]

i also dont know how soaked so many thrashes

[broken agate]

how much do adult omnis weigh

[void marlin]

2kg

[silver bloom]

395

[slate trellis]

1,100kg

[past dune]

I mean seriously what would be wrong with going without an update for a while if the end result was a far better game, and a far more polished foundation to support further development.

We've had longer droughts before, I presume in this case, if there was a unilateral focus on creating the best possible version for the public build, then future additions should go much smoother, and it should benefit the game much more for that public launch.

Afterall, they only get one shot at it.
They might as well do it right.

The "But its early access so they shouldnt be focused on polish" card also doesn't apply here, since their development hasn't resembled EA even slightly for the last 5 years. If anything, overpolishing for a content drop would just be parr for the course.

[chilly burrow]

I read it as 500 Cera Buggs

[neon scaffold]

Because diablo hits like if a toddler tried poking you with a toothpick

[blissful shoal]

Me no get dino now

Me want dino now

[void marlin]

There's three types of people:

[past dune]

Somewhere around 6/7 should be plenty, I could be misjudging their current state, so it could be longer, but I guess that based off vibes.

[lucid urchin]

I agree. I was keyboard slapping you for the 67 reference.

[slate trellis]

literally three tapped an allo on this same dib

[broken agate]

wont be needing that info since my carno ran right toward a sneaky mudpool with 2 rexes chasing after it and then i got instakilled

rip yet another chance at a prime elder carno

[cinder cave]

I think it’s more so: things are going to break anyways, fix what you can as you go on, it takes longer to get it perfectly every time

[analog turret]

YO 67

[slate trellis]

need help playing carno?

[void marlin]

Make Carno able to run at 110mph

[faint falcon]

Honestly have wanted them to just take a year, at this point maybe two, to polish up and finish the mechanics and playables they have now because the game is just unenjoyable anymore because of them.

[silver bloom]

just my opinion after hearing what the devs say (multiple time as well), something else is just gonna break during another HT/patch, at that point I'd say to make it work (not have It broken) until everything is done being added, and then polish it as much as you can.

[broken agate]

i need help bringing these omni and rex mains who pinslop all day back to whatever place they came from

cant seem to be able to enjoy the game if everything instakills me 💔

[void marlin]

You forgot Cera

[silver bloom]

this

[broken agate]

cera atleast needs to have a fair fight to kill, rex, allo and omni can just pinslop you to death which is stupid

[void marlin]

Ok but he's stinky. Kill them and I'll give you... Uuh... Quetz

[broken agate]

👀 👀 👀

deal

can i play geometry dash though

[chilly burrow]

This discussion is too constructive for my liking , I‘ll go take a nap

[cinder cave]

Duck hunt minigame in the isle when

[past dune]

Thats not... really how that works.
Things will break regardless but as long as you don't do anything stupid like migrate engine versions, generally things that are established will not break unless they are touched. A polishing pass at this point would hardly be a waste. They are going to need to buckle down and do it sooner or later. Why not do it now, prior to the public build?

Taking some time to go back over previous work, clean up the code, fix some of the more glaring networking issues, touch up the UI, graphics, lighting, and visual presentation, fix the broken mechanics and ensure that almost everything is working in proper order before using up their one golden ticket of releasing to main branch.

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh a massive migration & Patrol QOL focused update would fix most of my issues with the game. Because it ties in aspects of diets

[blissful shoal]

Humans shooting beipis be like

[void marlin]

Sure

[cinder cave]

The machine spirit works in strange ways, praise be

[feral shadow]

Ptera hunt

[slate trellis]

rumple. why cant dibbles break open coconuts?

[neon scaffold]

Man it would really stink if they migrated engine versions, thankfully they never did that

[void marlin]

I setence you to be pinslopped by a Ptera

[cinder cave]

Is squishy, like orange

@past dune Before you type a wall, I should clarify, it is a joke

[past dune]

Well hey, I'm sure if they ever were to do that... it would be entirely an upgrade and well worth the investment, time, and absurd quantity of issues that would come from it.

[cinder cave]

I wouldn’t mind a series of strictly back end fix updates

[past dune]

Praise be.

[slate trellis]

please rumple i was trying to treat my dibble to a sweet delectable treat on the beach yet to my dismay, i couldn't open it

[void marlin]

Is Rumple a parakeet?

[broken agate]

fair and balanced pinning minigame where you have to press 2 buttons in a specific order to pin down/escape when

[blissful shoal]

Iirc you can thrash to open coconuts

[slate trellis]

nope

[void marlin]

🐟

[slate trellis]

i tried. i even tried bashing it against a rock and dropping it from 30m

[grand grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432025103352332432/1463386195911381043/attachment.gif

[past dune]

Oh boy I cant wait for 7 billion minor balancing adjustments that dont change a single thing about how combat actually works.

[void marlin]

Oh shrimp 🦐

[blissful shoal]

Odd, either the coconut or the mechanic broke then

[void marlin]

Can we go back to 120 million BC?

[neon scaffold]

Im not arguing allo and omni because they have pin issues that stem from grappling and multiple individuals being able to instantly pin targets larger than themselves. But rex doesnt really have this, rex only pins if you are significantly smaller than itself in which case the pin is justified or if you are low hp where its just an execution animation. I dont see a problem with it

[manic fulcrum]

BU-Bu Pinslop

[void marlin]

Tailride

[cinder cave]

I have 40 million power in rise of kingdoms

[void marlin]

Well, I have 40.000.001 😎

[cinder cave]

This information was brought to you by NordVPN

[void marlin]

Which is sponsored by War Thunder

[past dune]

Oh boy, I sure can't wait for the next 8 patches to shift around the numbers behind pinning without actually changing how pinning works.

[broken agate]

i only included rex because a rex just threw me across the map and i thought that was goofy and now that i think about it its not rly pinslop 💔 (700kg carno btw)

[neon scaffold]

Lol fair enough, the rex tossing is pretty funny

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf a single value change for grapple math would be fine. As long as you drastically outweigh the opponent, or have to wear them down, I don’t see a problem

[void marlin]

Nothing beats a jet2 holiday

[past dune]

OH boy, I really love how the downstream effects of decisions made early on in evrima development have materialized nowadays.

[void marlin]

Oh no hacker is typing someone hold my hand

[past dune]

Even if something is fine, that doesn't mean it's fun. Even if the numbers were perfect the impression left by the mechanic would remain the same. The feeling and intrinsic value of using a mechanic holds far more weight in the players mind than the extrinsic or objective value it presents. Just because the numbers are good doesn't mean the mechanic is good.

[past dune]

I gotchu lan.

[void marlin]

IT'S NOT LAN

[cedar mauve]

rex died because bucking didn't work :( (sorry for touching rex btw)

[void marlin]

You're sorried dw

[past dune]

I dont know if I can forgive you.

[void marlin]

He's cool, you gotta forgive him

[chilly burrow]

WAR THUNDER THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE VEHICLE COMBAT GAME O- blam

[brave herald]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B1xEawYeYoQ

[void marlin]

THE ISLE

[chilly burrow]

I‘ll go back to napping, had to do it

[neon scaffold]

My favorite part about current isle is how trees dont knock pouncers off anymore and bucking takes 10 years to do anything. Thats really cool i think

[void marlin]

Ok, gn

[past dune]

I think its super awesome how the penalty for missing a pounce has been completely removed for no particular reason other than it didn't feel good to miss a pounce... it's not like that was the point or anything.

[void marlin]

I think Hackerius Haverius Hector The IV isn't a hacker

[past dune]

Oh

[bronze rivet]

I need news on da bary

[lucid urchin]

Sprinting alt-bite.

[manic fulcrum]

At least imo, I don’t see a problem with the mechanic as long as you have to work for it. I think what most people have an issue with is when it happens in scenarios they can’t really prevent. Like no one complains when their Teno gets pinned by a Rex because they know they could have avoided it, but they got ambushed. Whereas 2 allos instantly pinning a Dibble isn’t fun because there’s no work put into it, which I agree needs to be looked at

[grim compass]

BRO WHY IS A DEER trying to kill me and camping my food spot

[glossy harbor]

more game pins YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[void marlin]

Add tailride back plz
And add Brachi too

[analog turret]

I will never forgive removing the sprinting alt bite

[lucid urchin]

Because deer will do how deer pleases.

[cedar mauve]

at least i killed like 15 buggy allos :)

[feral shadow]

Mid suggestion ever

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/stampy-simpsons-elephant-bart-gif-11433583485732717396

[midnight tundra]

Its dondi in disguise bullying you

[void marlin]

I don't see a problem

[feral shadow]

I see plenty

[void marlin]

[feral shadow]

Changed it

[glossy harbor]

I was pinned by two raptors while low on stamina. Who came up with this? Give a pin to Spino, who will be an adult, deino, bite and slowly die. That's the idea. Why fix the bugs?

[lost citrus]

they literally talked about fixing bugs as the next step before the next HT lol

[void marlin]

I would never

[neon scaffold]

Also is it bad that i disagree with the premise that mechanics should be fun for both parties involved? Especially in a game like this? It shouldnt be fun to get pinned, maybe that will teach you to avoid those situations in the future. It shouldnt be fun to get your legs snapped by pachy, maybe youll think twice about messing with one in the future, it shouldnt be fun to get vomited by cerato, maybe you will leave it alone in the future. The problem only arises when there isnt anything you can do to learn and avoid those scenarios. Which is where the pin problems actually arise

[void marlin]

Killed allos -10 respect
They were buggy +10 respect
You gained a Cockatiel point (roughly $6.9m)

[feral shadow]

I was saying I did it ian

[void marlin]

I still have this

[glossy harbor]

Well, I've been waiting for a while now, I still can't see how much HP I have, it keeps kicking me out close to delta and I die because of it, so I'll wait like Ankylo in a dozen or so years

[feral shadow]

I changed my message

[lost citrus]

Also I feel like two lions pinning down an exhausted wildebeest sounds pretty normal

[manic fulcrum]

I was gonna say that it’s not supposed to be fun to get killed in video games, but the act of getting killed had to be fair

[cedar mauve]

https://klipy.com/gifs/steam-steam-happy

[glossy harbor]

No, xD this is stupid

[lost citrus]

You can see how much HP you have with the blood splatters on screen, it's just difficult to judge precisely

[manic fulcrum]

I don’t think anyone finds getting ambushed by a Rex “fun” because they are now dead, it may jumpscare them but they aren’t “having fun”

[lost citrus]

lol u just salty

[neon scaffold]

No @manic fulcrum is salty

[void marlin]

No he's gonzo

[nimble raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1478126985573040188/image0.gif

[manic fulcrum]

Well A: what were you. B: you were low on stamina, that’s on you