isle-discussion

[eternal sable]

Thanks for the recommendations guys. A bit salty cause I got jumped by a bunch of mixpackers but oh well lol

[rapid herald]

don't touch unofficials bro they are 100x worse

[opal chasm]

this guy just makes L take after L take

[rapid herald]

bro petit peds had 8 literal carnos together

[somber urchin]

you not liking one unofficial = all unofficials bad?

[rapid herald]

megapack after megapack herreras in every forest and no AI

[lost musk]

@manic fulcrum look at this

now this is A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL of BS

not just the fight outcome (which is one out of many of me proving trike sucks and rex is OP) but the crush hitbox?? and the spam?? the SPAM. THE HITBOX. hello??

[sleek marsh]

The only thing I dont like about petits is because they use body drop bot, the AI is very sparse

[rapid herald]

ur using hunger mutation boi

[opal chasm]

i almost never find rb'ers on petits but it does happen, out of my like 700 hours on evrima like half of it is on petits and ive only seen 2 overpack rb'ers and 1 ESP'er

[lost musk]

im not lol, my hunger is bugged stuck on 0 cause of the /load command

the only mutations im using are hemomania and congenital

[rapid herald]

constant megapack and overpack, and herras and gallis making sure all babies die

and did i mention no AI?

[sterile gulch]

Were you using mutations?

[opal chasm]

gallis are basically extinct and i have seen 2 adult herreras in the past 2 weeks of playing basically daily

[lost musk]

hemomania and congenital

[sterile gulch]

trash hitbox its bad too

[sleek marsh]

Could I see this fight from the trikes perspective side by side? Im thinking server latency might be the biggest cause of this issue. The hit boxes seem weird because your screen isn't showing the trike where is actually is

[rapid herald]

bro go to delta river and open ur eyes and i promise you, you will find 3 carnos 2 ceras 5 herreras on every tree and a omni raptor pack

[sterile gulch]

You should have told me and I would have used osteoclorosis

[opal chasm]

me when i go to the hotspot of the map and complain theres too many people on a 400 pop server

[eternal sable]

Whats RB and ESP stand for?

[lost musk]

osteo doesnt change anything

with or without it, youre broken after 3 crushes lol

[rapid herald]

there is no AI bro

petit peds doesn't have AI spawns what am i suppose to do?

[lost musk]

idk ask savagezero

[sterile gulch]

With osteo I could withstand 4 crushes, I don't count glass bones because they'll eventually remove them

[rapid herald]

not true it does help

[slate trellis]

can i try?

[opal chasm]

rb = rule break as in server rules made by the server host

ESP is a form of hack that allows people to see through walls, basically just wall hacks

[sterile gulch]

Yes, I had a ping of 133

[rapid herald]

extra sensory projection

[sleek marsh]

Oi did you record that fight with glazed? Id like to see both your screen and his side by side

[opal chasm]

get good lol thats kinda the point

[slate trellis]

perception

[rapid herald]

get good? ur crying abt officials ur worse by all means

[sleek marsh]

Yeah, figured. It's latency

[tall hamlet]

rex and allo both really came in op as possible

[sterile gulch]

I really thought it looked good, unfortunately I didn't record it, but I'll record it next time I go

[lost musk]

with osteo trike only stands 3 crushes, its literally a fact-

[rapid herald]

i prefer being one shotted by baby dinosaurs than ever step in a unofficial i swear they are all bad

[sleek marsh]

In what ways

[somber urchin]

they're not all bad. but some arent as good as others, sure.

[rapid herald]

inflated player count, i spawned right next a fg allo, a player in every turn no AI makes it worse to

[sterile gulch]

Interesting, well it wasn't really a close fight for me because of the ping, but I didn't do too badly haha. If you want, come to a server with my ping sometime so you can see the difference

[storm sierra]

Mettas den.

[slate trellis]

ragebait used to be good 🥱

[rapid herald]

i only go in that server to rule break

all i do is mix pack in that server

[somber urchin]

[opal chasm]

i never said officials are bad lol, your crying unofficials are too hard

i'd say playing solo on a 400 pop server with 0 AI and body drops barely happen so you are forced ot fight for oyur life throughout your entire life while outnumbered in about all fights is more skillful than afk growing off AI with a maximum of 100 pop

[rapid herald]

hey i have to deal with esp canni rexes and esp dinosaurs

[sleek marsh]

Inflated? Like the caps are higher than others? Some servers have tons of AI, some dont

[opal chasm]

isnt that your fault for playing officials?

[remote sandal]

Come to isle discussion
see a bunch of people being ragebaited by an insane person

[rapid herald]

dealing with esp canni rexes is arguably more difficult than petit peds

[storm sierra]

So you’re just childish? Is that what you’re trying to get at here?…..

[remote sandal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-higuruma-panel-CiZ9e5IUPqeVFzc8Mp

[rapid herald]

petit peds is js artifical difficulty stop glazing it

[somber urchin]

anyways

[opal chasm]

the rage-bait is crazy

this is getting too blatent

[slate trellis]

🥱 🥱

[sleek marsh]

Well now wait a second, these days people faaaarr to quick to claim things are ragebait. Yall giving the benefit of the doubt. Its nice, but let's consider its not bait, and people actually tend to believe what they say

[remote sandal]

Dont wanna they're insane and its clearly ragebait

[rapid herald]

refute ❌ say its rage bait

[slate trellis]

this is just unadulterated bait. my source is that im a master baiter

[storm sierra]

Yeah that’s rage bait….

[opal chasm]

same

[slate trellis]

many people can confirm that i bait almost nonsto

[sleek marsh]

You guys are too nice

[remote sandal]

I happen to be insanely evil

[sleek marsh]

You think hes joking, I think hes dumb. We are not the same

[storm sierra]

He’s probably on his lunch break and was bored

[rapid herald]

what

[storm sierra]

What?

[sleek marsh]

Que?

[opal chasm]

what

[rapid herald]

everything that I said is true tho?? petit peds is only difficult because its inflated playercount

whereas in officials u have to deal with hackers constantly and mixpackers and overpackers

[somber urchin]

lets just move on from this conversation.
feel free to continue it in your dms

[slate trellis]

🥱

[glacial panther]

hi pigeon

[rapid herald]

do u have connections with dondi

[grand grotto]

I am evil

[real maple]

yo does any one if bary or austo or kentro are in final stages of development

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/transformers-barricade-6

[rapid herald]

do u?

[sleek marsh]

Austro next i think

[cinder cave]

Not more than other people

[slate trellis]

i met a guy with that name before

[real maple]

i thought they were all coming together

[rapid herald]

can u tell him to make deinosuchus bite force 2,000 and give it less stamina drain and fracture damage

[cinder cave]

No

[somber urchin]

[rapid herald]

can someone pls buff deinosucuhus

[slate trellis]

rumple if i were to dm you if it wasnt about admin stuff

[remote sandal]

The insufferable player plays deinosuchus what a surprise

[slate trellis]

would thjat be okay

[cinder cave]

Deino suffers more from it's environment than it does from a lack of power

[rapid herald]

i only play this game becuase of deinosuchus

[cinder cave]

Yeah shore

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf petit pieds doesn’t have the safety net of unlimited Ai

[remote sandal]

👴 it shows

[rapid herald]

i would like to differ actually

[slate trellis]

im not saying i would i just wanted to know

[cinder cave]

In it's chosen environment, I'd argue it's the strongest apex currently, unfortunately it has a hard time of growing

[slate trellis]

can we do allo v dibble fight 🥺

[rapid herald]

Well for starters, it's the biggest apex sure but it's not the strongest, A peak prime/elder rex can go into the water and bully the prime elder deinosuchus and then go outside of land and the deinosuchus would run out of stamina before it's even 70% hp

[cinder cave]

Drown it

[rapid herald]

you can't drown it you can't grab prime rexes

[cinder cave]

Is a prime deino not capable of drowning a prime rex?

[rapid herald]

no

[obtuse carbon]

i got an idea make prime dryo weigh 15 tons

[rapid herald]

it can't even drown a stego you think it can drown a rex?

[slate trellis]

rumple hes ragebaiting you

[glacial panther]

or just... dont try and fight a prime rex, the bigger species are very easy to clock prime vs adult/frail

[cinder cave]

It can drown a stego...

[rapid herald]

IM NOT RAGE BAIITNG I LITERALLY DID THIS TODAY

[cinder cave]

Are you sure you're not just picking fights with things larger than you

[rapid herald]

deino is 13.5 tons at prime elder, rex is 12.3 a rex can literally just go in water spam bite hit it a few times and run back

with no punishment because deinos bite is too weak to do anything

and runs out of stamina before anything happens

[rapid herald]

for the apex that literally made this game popular and what it is today it surely is extremely downplayed

[rapid herald]

13.5 ton alligator can't clock a low tier apex thats 9 tons 😭

[cinder cave]

If you want a big reptile power fantasy, I'd recommend the Brawler rex over the ambush predator based Deino

[lusty wing]

im madly in love with you

[glacial panther]

i wouldn't call deino the apex, not even of the waters.
Its a.. ig sub-apex if you wanna put it in that category.

Spino is the apex of the waters

[rapid herald]

A deinosuchus would clock a spinosaurus 10/10

[glacial panther]

Someone pull up the image

[manic fulcrum]

Sure, on oasis?

[cinder cave]

My sweet summer child

[sleek marsh]

Idk where people get this spino apex stuff from. Probably old paleo ideas before we found out its a smaller, weaker fish eater, not a massive land dwelling monster capable of snapping Rex neck

[slate trellis]

free admin, right?

[rapid herald]

the isle is the only game that downplays deino

[manic fulcrum]

Yes

[slate trellis]

do you want dib or allo

[rapid herald]

jurassic park 3 effect

[slate trellis]

i only really play dib but i wouldnt mind being an allo

[manic fulcrum]

I’ll go Allo

[rapid herald]

deinosuchus should be the strongest apex stat wise

[cinder cave]

Why

[sleek marsh]

That dam movie

[slate trellis]

can you tell me what i have to do 😭

[rapid herald]

weighs more than a t rex, has a stronger bite force is more of an ambush predator

[manic fulcrum]

For admin? Join the discord and give your steam ID

[slate trellis]

already done

[cinder cave]

Yeah, ambush predator

[manic fulcrum]

Oh ok. Do you wanna have elder or no?

[rapid herald]

if a t rex is close to the water a deinosuchus should kill it with ease

[slate trellis]

Up to you

[cinder cave]

Why

[slate trellis]

i wouldnt mind a prime v prime fight

[rapid herald]

because element of suprise, it's an offgaurd attack ur suppose to die

stronger bite force than the rex so the skull gets crushed easily

[glacial panther]

isnt deino upscaled in the isle or is that an outdated study

[manic fulcrum]

Do you know how to open the panels and stuff

[cinder cave]

Alright, so rex should be able to drag a deino out of the water and kill it on land then

[slate trellis]

i dont

[rapid herald]

does the rex weigh more?

[manic fulcrum]

Check your settings, idk what the default is

[cinder cave]

Things are easier to move in the water

[rapid herald]

if the rex tries to grab the deino it's getting kiled on the spot

[cinder cave]

And it has it's pin, it should be able to drag a fully grown deino out of the water and bite it to death with it's crush on land

[cinder cave]

Why

[manic fulcrum]

Should be under admin panel

[rapid herald]

terrian advantage? the rex can't swim as well as the deino, the deino knows the rex is there the rex doesn't if the rex tries to get the deino the deino can easily maneuver out

or death roll it like a crocodile does?

[slate trellis]

figured it out

[manic fulcrum]

Now look up “salty” and press go to

[vapid pumice]

tbf rex does have decent proficency in water, having alt attacks in it

[rapid herald]

but what you're saying isn't entirely wrong lions and other carnivores have dragged crocodiles out of the water and flipped it over and killed it

[cinder cave]

The situation you've provided, the rex knows the deino is there

[rapid herald]

the rex wouldn't come near the deino that's a death sentence

[manic fulcrum]

Some reason bring is disabled on the server

[cinder cave]

You're saying a rex can go into the water and bite deino

[vapid pumice]

oh this is an irl discussion

my bad broskitos

[rapid herald]

in the isle yes which is the problem

[cinder cave]

It's not, he's just making strange arguments

[vapid pumice]

wait is it that or like mosquito

[cinder cave]

Why

[rapid herald]

why should a land apex be able to beat a deinosuchus in the water?

[manic fulcrum]

For elder type in chat and do /elder prime

[vapid pumice]

brosquitos looks better i think

the other one looks like it would be a slur

[cinder cave]

I think both should just avoid fighting each other, by nature of them both being apexes, which is fine, no need for either to one tap the other

[rapid herald]

now why is t rex bite force stronger than deinosuchuses?

[slate trellis]

do i need to manually do my mutations LOL

[manic fulcrum]

No, I won’t have any

[cinder cave]

Jaw muscles prolly

[glacial panther]

because deino, in the isle, is built to grab and drown rather than bite to kill and rex is meant to bite and pin

[rapid herald]

you know that a salt water crocodile is almost as strong as a rex in turns of PSI? what makes you think a deinosuchus should be less stronger than a rex

[cinder cave]

The isle is not a realistic game, we shouldn't be trying to force it to be

[manic fulcrum]

….

[slate trellis]

what a guy

[rapid herald]

the isle is the only game that has undertuned deinosuchus

[past dune]

When are they gonna add buyable regrows?

[cinder cave]

That's cool

[cinder cave]

Mods, crush his skull, thank you

[rapid herald]

literally every other game that has deinosuchus makes it the most op thing

[grim compass]

u want pay to win?

[cinder cave]

That's nice bud

[manic fulcrum]

Idk why that Rex attacked you @slate trellis

[glacial panther]

hi yes ur order of buyable regrows will come in some amount of business days

[past dune]

Its not pay to win, its pay to not lose.

[slate trellis]

no big deal

[rapid herald]

and deinosuchus is the only reason why this game is successful and why it went mainstream so idk why treat it like dog when even a stego can beat it

[manic fulcrum]

But just repeat and go back to me

[sleek marsh]

This is the only incorrect thought here atm. Reality should be the baseline and then variation comes from there. Otherwise wtf arbitrary nonsense are you doing? Use IRL as a baseline or its inconsistent nonsense.

[slate trellis]

Come to me, way better area i think

[past dune]

PFFT

[obtuse carbon]

hes gotta be rage baiting

[rapid herald]

stegosaurus can beat it, trike can beat it, rex can beat it

[cinder cave]

#makedeinoai

[grim compass]

I like ur logic

[past dune]

Alright, its bait but that might be in the top 5 messages ive seen this month.

[sleek marsh]

Yes IRL is the baseline still, this is just super far away lol

[cinder cave]

Deino, if played properly, fully has the ability to escape without consequence

[rapid herald]

u have something on its diet it cant even kill bro?

[glacial panther]

kinda crazy on the choice of claim too. bold

[rapid herald]

you do realise if it wasn't for the gamingbeaver in 2021 uploading deinosuchus videos that got more than 5 million views each this game would be sub 1k players to this day

[past dune]

One of the thought processes of all time.

[sleek marsh]

Also its been a decade. I dont think this will be released until after we are dead

[glacial panther]

isle legacy isnt real now ig

[past dune]

It hit more than 10k concurrent players a full year before Deino even released.

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spider-man-norman-osborn-4

[sleek marsh]

Ye but they took baseline carno and added onto it so this meshes

[rapid herald]

this game without deinosuchus would've been dead but ok

[cinder cave]

Don't hunt an apex predator when the apex predator is the strongest it can possibly be, use ur noggin

[past dune]

I like this guy.

[rapid herald]

a stegosaurus can victimize a deinosuchus low difficulty and a stego is on it's diet

[manic fulcrum]

I’m ready whenever you are sky high

[cinder cave]

Cool?

[slate trellis]

rexes keep spawning ontop of me and killing me 😭

[haughty bay]

lowkey put allo, rex and trike on more diets

[manic fulcrum]

🤨 lemme see this

[rapid herald]

make the argument for rex all u want but if it's in the diet and ur encouraging to not fight it because it can kill you then why have it on the diet

[cinder cave]

I think you're just expecting deino to be something it isn't to be honest, play deino conservatively

[sleek marsh]

I will say I took a break from this game until evrima let me play deino

[cinder cave]

Deino can drown a swimming stego can it not?

[manic fulcrum]

I see

[rapid herald]

why should a prime stego drink water without any consequences

[cinder cave]

It is a multi ton herbivore that's spent several hours getting there

[sleek marsh]

He got u there rumple

[slate trellis]

@manic fulcrum can i dm?

[manic fulcrum]

Yes

[sleek marsh]

Nah cuz you could say that about any herbie that can get dragged

[rapid herald]

and deinosuchus is the biggest carnivore in the game and it can't even kill it with the element of suprise wow

[cinder cave]

You can if it's swimming, don't attack something you know you can't kill

[rapid herald]

twice as less time to grow a stego than a rex and a deino

[rapid herald]

when would it ever swim bro?

[cinder cave]

Got to cross the river

[vagrant narwhal]

I like how the devs putting bridges everywhere

[sleek marsh]

I guess one could say the stego is to the deino as the hippo is to the modern croc

[obtuse carbon]

the humble bridge

[vapid pumice]

with them being quite notorious for being ambush spots for apexes

[rapid herald]

deinosuchus isn't a crocodile this analogy doesn't work

[vagrant narwhal]

and ppl still choose the bridges, lol

[cinder cave]

You say you're not rage baiting but then you say this

[rapid herald]

first of all narritively it doesn't make sense

[blazing jolt]

🤓 ☝️

[rapid herald]

deinosuchus had no natural predators so how can you compare

[ruby oak]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-b-that-this-man-big-chungus-reddit-gif-16394899

[rapid herald]

the only thing a deinosuchus had to worry about was other deinosuchuses

[vapid pumice]

spino is going to be its natural predator in this game :D

[sleek marsh]

It's a crocadillian

[cinder cave]

This is not an ancient island, these are genetically constructed creatures that suffer at the whims of a machine of questionable morality, your argument has zero (0) substance

[rapid herald]

its more of an alligator bro

[cinder cave]

An alligator is a crocadillian

[somber urchin]

[obtuse carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-so-bad-gif-4336558245342426313

[vagrant narwhal]

deino is more like a obsessed and crippled megalania at this point

[rapid herald]

ur comparing a salt water crocodile to a alligator bro?

what does an american crocdile have to do with this?

[cinder cave]

Wrong one, my bad

[modern shard]

I NEED HELP IVE HAD A FRACTURED LEGS FOR 30 MINS THEY NOT HEALING IM A DEINOSUCHUS

[rapid herald]

IT JUST SAYS THEY ARE DISTINGUISHED

[vapid pumice]

they do fill relatively similar niches within their respective enviorments outside of specific cases (i.e the very isolated american crocodile) even if those enviorments differ a bit

[rare tide]

To be fair.
I do think Deino has it a bit too rough right now and really is very victimized lmao.

[rapid herald]

nvm i got perms

[somber urchin]

you have to go onto land and rest by pressing H

[vagrant narwhal]

did you tried sitting on land? hows your diet

[cinder cave]

They do the same thing

[rapid herald]

read this please

[modern shard]

oh. ive just been laying still underwater

[cinder cave]

Having a wider mouth doesn't mean you can't compare a deino and a crocodile

[rapid herald]

READING COMPRHENSION CURSE got to the isle

[hoary sage]

Alligators are crocodilians, but they are not crocodiles

[vapid pumice]

being a crocodile =/= being a crocodilian

[somber urchin]

ok so can we compare deinosuchus to alligator then

[rapid herald]

YES

[cinder cave]

Deinosuchus isn't an alligator though

[vapid pumice]

just like being a dinosaur =/= being a bird

[rapid herald]

it's more closely related to alligators than crocodiles

so why compare it to the more distant relative?

[sleek marsh]

Modern alligators and deinosuchus have the same common ancestors, deino is not an ancestor of modern gators but is more closely related and under the allogatoridae family

[cinder cave]

If you ignore the shape of the face, they are almost exactly the same body type, I'm not sure why we're not allowed to compare the hunting strategies of two animals who hunt the same way and are functionally the same construction

[rapid herald]

so now we dwelve into realism

[vapid pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-the-isle-humans-the-isle-human-update-the-isle-mercenary-the-isle-mercenaries-gif-25291810

[glacial panther]

didnt you compare crocodiles to deino earlier

[cinder cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[rapid herald]

no i didn't

[cinder cave]

I'm done with this conversation, you're right about on par with arguing with whitefalcon

[rapid herald]

don't u wanna hear my rebunk

[somber urchin]

real

[sleek marsh]

Nobody reads channel names

I could edit that to nobody reads and it would be the same

[rapid herald]

can we nerf stegos and trikes and rexes

[sleek marsh]

No, buff everything you think is weaker than the strongest things.

[rapid herald]

spino should be 16 tons

[rare tide]

12 at Adult

[rapid herald]

how about 16 tons

the jurassic park spinosaurus is 16 tons so why can't the isle spinosaurus be 16 tons

[rare tide]

Shant is 16 Tons if anything. Spino at adult should be 12.
Big enough to be far larger than Rex and Trike, but a little smaller if they're Prime.

[rapid herald]

this spinosaurus is heavily inspired by jw cc spinosaurus so it should resemble it in weight

[rare tide]

What does JW have to do with this 😂

[wheat moth]

We have game balance to consider.

[rapid herald]

the whole spino design is based off JW same with t rex

[vagrant narwhal]

lets move on, can we have Metoposaurus (a gaint salamader behave like a croc, they can weight up to 400kg)as a ai in the mud pit area in the swamp ?
it will leap out and insta kill something like baby deino or herra if they run pass, or sit quietly at the bottom of the lake
encourage semi quqatic to dive and search for food like beipi did

[rare tide]

...Yes.
The design.

That doesn't mean it has to share JP stats.

[rapid herald]

the dev team also made it pose like jp spino

[somber urchin]

no jayce. dont do it. you'll get sucked into the loop.

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-mark-fishbach-confused-what-gif-2070462835371713826

[rare tide]

As a reference. Yes.

[sleek marsh]

Yes but only after the full dino roster is out

[hoary sage]

i think we're being trolled

[somber urchin]

yes.

[rapid herald]

yes therefore why make it 12 tons when it looks like it 16 tons

[rare tide]

Piggyyyy ^^

[rapid herald]

also it would fit the narrative that it can man handle deinosuchus

[sleek marsh]

Benefit of the doubt is dangerous to just hand out

[rapid herald]

kinda hard to imagine it doing that if it weighs less no?

[somber urchin]

oh. i havent been called that before but hello!

[rapid herald]

ok guys i unfortunately have to stop rage baiting because i have to do stuf

[vagrant narwhal]

I notcied they are trying to improve how ai behave right now
deer and boar will sometime moving slowly towards the river and stay for a couple mins
maybe one day we will see proper ai that ambushs player

[hoary sage]

see

[sleek marsh]

Its more like.....modern guy prolly with autism has intense interest in a specific dinosaur which exists in a dinosaur video game so hes really interested in it and has really hard set opinions about it and will share them regardless of optics. Yall go troll, but nah hes serious

[rapid herald]

everything i said was serious i just didn't care to make it into a good argument

[sleek marsh]

Its easy to act like what someone is saying is a joke so you dont have to expend brain power thinking about it or refuting it

[rapid herald]

they have to consult the hive mind to agree its rage bait because they can't refute any arguments

[hoary sage]

#isle-discussion message

[sleek marsh]

Its trruuueeee

[rapid herald]

and it's funny how a server admin didn't even know a prime rex can't be drowned by a prime deino

[sleek marsh]

[cinder cave]

I never said it was rage bait, I genuinely just thought you were stupid ngl

[cinder cave]

I don't play the bigger animals

[sleek marsh]

Thank you!

[wheat moth]

"ok guys i unfortunately have to stop rage baiting-"
"everything i said was serious-"

[sleek marsh]

Finally a normal person! Lolol

[rapid herald]

if u can't debunk or refute anytihng i say unfortunately i am right

[neon elk]

rule 2...

[somber urchin]

i thought you had to go do somehting.

[modern shard]

ok how does the growth stuff work? if i die as a full grown deinosuchus will i respan at 75? same for baby, subadult, adult, etc

[rapid herald]

right right

[bleak wind]

game over

[cinder cave]

This will be my new most used quote with my friends, thank you and have an awesome day lol

[hoary sage]

You start at 25%

[modern shard]

even if im full grown?

[wheat moth]

If you die, you have to re-spawn.

[hoary sage]

Yes

[modern shard]

dang ok thanks

[bleak wind]

literal real life soyjack

[vapid pumice]

death comes for us all i thinks

[modern shard]

keep getting jumpscared by adult deinos one shotting me

[merry roost]

tis a croc eat croc world

[sleek marsh]

I would hope so, its logically consistent. Its science. If a theoretical model holds and you can't refute it with contrary data then it needs to be accepted as true until proven otherwise.

[oblique geyser]

churro

[hoary sage]

the theoretical model was "spino should be 16t because jp"

[leaden cobalt]

Am I a noodle

[prisma bough]

ferret

[frigid spear]

i wantt quetz

[sleek marsh]

No that is a flat out strawman sir. He said the spino should be 16t because the devs designed it based off a 16t spino. Logically consistent.

[hoary sage]

good god

[leaden cobalt]

I didn’t do anything

[prisma bough]

[wheat moth]

You can't just state something that can't be immediately proven and claim it's true

[past dune]

Guys maybe we should all hold hands and pay money for Isle skins.

[halcyon dove]

I like potato.

[bleak wind]

agreed

[prisma bough]

you think i have money?

[sleek marsh]

True. But what can be proven is where the isle spino design was based from

[wheat moth]

[past dune]

Oh, I was kinda hoping someone else could cover for me, since im broke.

[sleek marsh]

Honestly surprised devs haven't implemented some kind of microtransactions

[halcyon dove]

ehacker was not on my 2026 bingo card

[muted trench]

i’ve seen so many compys but not a single schooling fish spawn

[wheat moth]

Evidence indeed points to its inspiration, but to prove it unquestionably, we'd need a statement from the people who designed it.

[kindred quartz]

diablo crashinggggggg all the time!!!

[past dune]

Why is that surprising?

[oblique geyser]

most games want money i think

[sleek marsh]

Do some basic math and then question how they pay for this

[neon elk]

me too

[halcyon dove]

dondinator9000 hit it big when playing slots

[sleek marsh]

[halcyon dove]

every gambler quits before they hit it big, thats why i always swing 7 times as a stego, no one expects that

[past dune]

Because its a small team with an even pace of development, and a lot of the art team works based on commission rather than full time employment.

They also made enough money from legacy and early evrima to sustain development for years to come.

[sleek marsh]

Game sales per month wont go over say 100, if they even reach that. 30x100, 3000 a month. Maybe. Now server costs, employee costs, etc

[wheat moth]

Isaac, you're in the 1%. You don't need money.

[past dune]

I can do basic math.
I can also drool at the statistics and think about the sort of game I could make with that type of money. Hoo boy.

[modern shard]

any deinosuchus pros that could teach me stuff?

[undone cliff]

Who gave you their sales data

[past dune]

...
100?
Per month?

[undone cliff]

Id like to speak to them

[sleek marsh]

Yeah right! Lmao

[neon elk]

but i want more :((

[halcyon dove]

swim, hit edge of water, press right click, hold right click, drown thing.

[sleek marsh]

I was being super generous with the estimate.

[hoary sage]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-sigh-sludge-demon-no-tears-no-crying-gif-10716016711387478941

[past dune]

I like you.
Please continue speaking.

[undone cliff]

I'm going to be super generous and not ban you.

[sleek marsh]

Uh...it was dondi i swear

[modern shard]

wow that will def help me reach adulthood

[undone cliff]

Bye

[halcyon dove]

pick a god and pray, honestly.

[past dune]

Aww

[oblique geyser]

you're a content creator, surely you are rich, right? right...?

[modern shard]

what ball knowledge

[sleek marsh]

Oh uh thank you. Sorry did I do something wrong? Im just spitballing

[neon elk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kratos-falling-meme-IkfbUjTyQBH2ZKzrB9

[wheat moth]

Not a pro, but if you find some schooling fish, grab one and set it on the bank. After 8-minutes it will rot and provide you with a diet. This is useful to keep you fed and also from becoming infertile at the early stages of growth.

[halcyon dove]

the suspiciously lined up schooling fish on the bank as a big deino passes through

[tall hamlet]

is that even bannable

[modern shard]

yea i dont understand what a dieyt is in this game. and what are the b a and y things? i just heard they help me grow if their filled

[sleek marsh]

Wow even I didn't know that and Ive been playing since before evrima had a name and was just recode

[wheat moth]

It's probably a bug.

[halcyon dove]

def a bug, nothing to see here officier deino. nope. def not a small deino in that bush.

[undone cliff]

Misinformation #rules-and-info

[feral shadow]

Yooo me too

[wheat moth]

[glacial panther]

hi

[rapid herald]

bro ur so tuff u just aura farmed on him

[rare tide]

This is random.
But people really underestimate crocodillians massively

[tall hamlet]

glazeeee

[rapid herald]

no only the isle underestimates crocodillians

[sleek marsh]

Its just basic estimation based on logic I have no hard data in front of me but im just gonna say my gut feeling is a doubt that 100 people are buying fresh copies every month. I wouldnt say that's misinformation just a semi-educated guess

[halcyon dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1479705311337250929/7610FD1.MP4?ex=69aefcb5&is=69adab35&hm=755aab9bcf42495d077364e2e99b0eaec2fe254a3db7b1a2305941f1ceb7fe6f&

[rapid herald]

you even clarified it was an estimate

[tall hamlet]

o

[undone cliff]

Again. Not banning.

[sleek marsh]

Appreciated my dude 🫡

[rapid herald]

u still aura farmed him

[sleek marsh]

Yeah it was pretty cold I got shook

[rapid herald]

boiiiiii u sooooo tuffffffffff

[sleek marsh]

Im being serious you're not

[oblique geyser]

what is going on in this chat

[rapid herald]

lol bro u did nothing wrong shouldn't be shooked

[neon elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1473542279258963968/caption.gif

[sleek marsh]

Chaos

[prisma bough]

who knows

[halcyon dove]

idk, i like to think its how rex players communicate

[feral shadow]

This chat is insane

[rapid herald]

can we please buff deinosuchus so it can one shot stegos and head fracture rexes?

[sleek marsh]

How far back have you read?

[neon elk]

are we 1 calling

[halcyon dove]

mods, lower this guys credit score

[sleek marsh]

[rapid herald]

deinosuchus is narratively stronger than a rex

[halcyon dove]

if it would please yee

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

[feral shadow]

What does narratively mean

[prisma bough]

Can we get the chat back on topic and not whatever this is? My brain already feels likes its melting cause im sick

[sleek marsh]

What's the topic? Next update?

[neon elk]

the isle lore

[halcyon dove]

mmm, kentro.

[tall hamlet]

petition for austro to be able to carry its babies on its back

[rapid herald]

it means that is supposed to be, and or to only include a massive crocodilian to feed the agenda that it's a rex killer as the spinosaurus isn't a rex killer anymore

[feral shadow]

What narrative mean in the context of deinosuchus being strong ger than rex

[sleek marsh]

ThE iSlE hAs LoRe?!

[misty plinth]

this chat never changes

[glad geyser]

what does it mean to replicate mutations?

[neon elk]

yes, thank you

[tall hamlet]

youll have the same mutations youve selected, plus youll be able to choose new ones so you have double

[neon elk]

oh

[rapid herald]

only reason to add deinosuchus is for the rex to be hunted and not dominate the food chain and the deinosuchus is failing miserably

[sleek marsh]

He's doing his best OKAY?!

[feral shadow]

I'm gonna be honest this makes 0 sense to me so I'm just gonna let ya live with that

[void marlin]

Deino is a croc, therefore
Deino > Rex

[feral shadow]

When?

[glad geyser]

so i should say yes to replication?

[wanton rune]

I wish deino could grow forever, until death

[tall hamlet]

yea

[glad geyser]

okay tysm

[void marlin]

Fake, I'm not real

[rapid herald]

since literally every dinosaur game, sarcosuchus, deinosuchus, spinosaurus are glorified rex killers

[tall hamlet]

omg its austro

[tall hamlet]

anytime

[regal notch]

They're right behind them waiting at the door

[feral shadow]

No?

[prisma bough]

This may come as a shock, but The Isle isn't every other dinosaur game and is in fact, it's own game.

[sleek marsh]

Sir get your eyes checked that is a bary

[oblique geyser]

🙏

[halcyon dove]

not a single soul would go near any river lmao, and GL growing any deino with some 30 ton gamer swimming at mach billion towards ya

[neon elk]

pains me to see the bunker model

[rapid herald]

this may come as a shock but the only reason deino got released 4 years earlier than a t rex was to make money and make it mainstream

[void marlin]

[Insert ETA here]

[tall hamlet]

im a girl with bad eyes thank u very much

[oblique geyser]

i'm so sorry

[sleek marsh]

Lmao

[neon elk]

it is... ok

[feral shadow]

This has nothing to do with it

[prisma bough]

Enough with the trolling.

[hoary sage]

it was primarily to add the diving/underwater movement and drowning mechanics

[cinder cave]

@rapid herald You've already admitted this line of conversation is ragebait, enough

[void marlin]

Rumplo

[rapid herald]

1. no one is raging and I have valid arguments so idk why ur resorting to this

[regal notch]

I miss when chat was about moths and other yummy lil guys.

[tall hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/paragwontbms-tokyo-toni-happy-gif-10132523158025834348

[neon elk]

no

[sleek marsh]

Did you just say moths are yummy

[pliant urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176353200253706361/1393819303576473680/a42ed7db-ce76-4bac-9b15-d0fc301c6585.gif

[regal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kiss-kissing-44

[void marlin]

Humans are yummy

[feral shadow]

I agree

[sleek marsh]

omg im dying haha

[regal notch]

You saw nothing

[tall hamlet]

true!

[void marlin]

I saw everything
-# I have a screenshot

[wheat moth]

So you have Alpha, Beta and Gamma to fill. The higher they're filled up the faster your animal will grow. You need to fill 1%+ in all three to get a Perfect Diet for additional benefits (like health recovery, etc.), it also contributes towards becoming a prime elder. If you have no diets filled, you will become infertile and won't be able to become a prime (you will still gain weight as a deino beyond 75%, though).
On your character page, it will show you what food will grant you which specific diet. Additionally, every playable (except pteranodons) have organs, which can be removed to provide you with each diet. You can also eat bones as a deino to fill all three diets.
Typically, playables can over-eat, which causes them to throw up and debuff them. Deinos can't throw up, but if your stomach is full, you won't continue to fill on diet.

Lastly (don't want to overload you), deinos can grab animals on land that are <=50% of their weight on land, and <=75% in water. You grow VERY slowly, so until you get the basics down, don't worry too much about this yet.

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-episode-6-kinger-jax-gif-18165792779306625938

[regal notch]

Austro coded fr

[void marlin]

THEREFORE

I forgor

[oblique geyser]

i bet kinger likes austroraptor

[neon elk]

you mean... beta, alpha and gamma :))

[regal notch]

Kinger's plush is so 🫃

[tall hamlet]

my name must be kinger

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hutlaw-dog

[tall hamlet]

whos kinger also

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kinger-the-amazing-digital-circus-2

[sleek marsh]

I only have about 4% clue what's going on rh

[tall hamlet]

okay coattt

[void marlin]

whos eumple also

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/kinger-breaks-the-amazing-digital-circus-amazing-digital-circus-digital-circus-gif-10726468742037335590

[pliant urchin]

King fisher aka austro
Obviously

[void marlin]

Cool Sukuna draw

[wheat moth]

I'm a fiend of order, I like it alphabetically.

[past dune]

Not today I haven't.

[sleek marsh]

Um excuse me this is incredibly violent and traumatic

[prisma bough]

[oblique geyser]

oh god

[prisma bough]

can we not

[pliant urchin]

This doesn't look very ISLE RELATED

[past dune]

THE ISLE AM I RIGHT FELLAS?

[regal notch]

Damn sorry forgot not in off topic lol

[sleek marsh]

What if we give it a tail?

[void marlin]

Is this The Isle related?

[feral shadow]

This chat is a little funky tonight

[regal notch]

I love playing The Island™

[sleek marsh]

Its the lack of an update in a month making us antzy

[wheat moth]

"Tonight"?

[void marlin]

❌

[regal notch]

I swear bary this week believe it

[modern shard]

wow thanks for the advice! yea i was trying to figure out how to get organs out of a boar i killed (dum me). i saw thew things of which animals i need to kill on my profile. but how am i supposed to kill a stegosaurus while im only 30% grown? or a ceratarus whatever

[void marlin]

Bary in february trust me

[sleek marsh]

If it doesn't happen I will hold you personally responsible ok?

[pliant urchin]

We don't often get an update every month. We get the most patches when there's an active horde test mostly

[past dune]

I think they should wait another 6 months honestly.

[feral shadow]

I love playing "the piece of land surrounded entirely by water"

[past dune]

I mean this with full sincerity by the way.

[regal notch]

6-7 months?

[void marlin]

Mods, make this user 8% less comfortable

[modern shard]

is spino ever coming to the isle

[undone cliff]

Just sayin I stopped playing this game for like 3 years straight and when I came back to playing it was great

[past dune]

8 months, sure.
Wait until the end of the year, that would be fine with me.

[regal notch]

I don't believe you

[tall hamlet]

ohhh

[pliant urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[undone cliff]

waiting can be cool and fun

[void marlin]

Just wait faster

[pliant urchin]

Patience is a sign you weren't an iPad kid

[oblique geyser]

[regal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cool-gif-4679536

[undone cliff]

I don't look this cool irl

[modern shard]

yea this game requires patience out of me which def isnt my strong area

[void marlin]

I never had a iPad...
But I did have a Xbox 360

[wheat moth]

Sometimes corpses will be around, so you might have to get brave and venture (carefully) out of the water to get it. Mashing E at a corpse tears them open, and then tapping G picks them out.

Kouga on YouTube has excellent guides for players, if you want to check him out. If not, myself and people here are usually keen to answer questions.

[regal notch]

Nobody can be as cool as bobsquare spongepants

[wraith sand]

I don't want a content patch. I want grab bug fixed. That's all.

[void marlin]

Anky:

[regal notch]

I want more bugs

[wheat moth]

I want pteranodon updates

[void marlin]

I want more Pepperferret

[modern shard]

k ill check him out. so should i almost always be in the water? i find myself running into the end of a river or a body of water and then idk where to go

[regal notch]

His tail kinda 🤨 lookin'

[undone cliff]

Join QA lol

[void marlin]

Hitlist (people to eat):
1- Venan
2- idk

[past dune]

If their goal is to push Evrima to live branch, taking a long ass time to stop focusing on the regular, polished content releases, and instead take a step back, and refine every aspect of the game before its "launch" would be the best move imo

They could iron out the lighting, clean up gateway, work on various things like skin quality, the UI, normal maps for the elders, refining the elder system and all other core mechanics... adding in more robust tools for unofficials, refining whatever the hell is going on with the servers, bug fixes, server checks to prevent cheating, performance, etc... all the while not focusing on new content.

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-no-need-to-explain-kratos-dont-need-to-explain-no-explanation-gif-27161172

[regal notch]

Okay but hear me out.... both

[wheat moth]

https://vulnona.com/game/map/#map=Gateway_v0.21

You can use this website to get your bearings. In the character page, if you click your coordinates, you can paste them into the 'Location' bar and it will show you where on the map you are.

[neon elk]

ui...

[past dune]

That would entirely defeat the point.

[void marlin]

Guys guys guys guys

[regal notch]

But.... it doesn't matter

[past dune]

...
...

[regal notch]

I've broken him chat

[vagrant narwhal]

hass anyone watched the dino documentary show on Netflix? I like how they portray spino and anky in it

[feral shadow]

Good job

[oblique geyser]

amazing

[void marlin]

NOOOOO I wanted to break him first

[regal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-1321994803047082653

[sleek marsh]

Hear me out. don't pay for devs to waste time designing human structures and models right now when you're nowhere near releasing human anything for real and those devs time effort and your money could be spent on immediate things but thats just me idk

[feral shadow]

Wouldnt it be good to already have that stuff done?

[rancid plaza]

last thing I hear before getting jumped by 10 troodons as a dilo

[neon elk]

they've been paying Vis for years
why does it matter

and they have said countless times that money isn't the problem

[void marlin]

@past dune forget evererima come back to legaracy

[wheat moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194686206747873300/1467004586320461834/feralanimal.gif

[void marlin]

I hope Ptera gets a crush

[sleek marsh]

Well they can say that but obviously if they were a large triple A studio this game wouldn't be like this after 10 years

[past dune]

Yeah, you're right.
It honestly doesn't, they could do whatever they want and it would still end up the same way. It doesn't matter if they polish anything, it doesnt matter if they release new creatures, hell, they could do nothing and push this build to live branch right now and it wouldn't really matter.

It's not like it would really hurt them one way or another, its not like the game is running the risk of dying, at the end of the day...

[void marlin]

I think the DEVs don't know where to go with the game. On one hand, they're following the dinosaur survival path, or on the other hand, they're focusing more on the lore with animals like the Strains and monsters like the Matriarch

The Isle is an innovative game with the theme of dinosaur survival, but I don't think that's the game's focus, and I think the developers miss out on a lot of potential by putting bizarre animals in the game.

[regal notch]

[past dune]

You gotta shake up the formula every once in a while.

[glacial panther]

To be fair, a lot of those sound like engine, code, and adjacent to those things

Animations may be adjusted as it goes, but likely not as major

[neon elk]

to be fair
they're the digital studio that has 3 programmers

take that as you will

[void marlin]

[sleek marsh]

Nah if it's easy to do, do it last

[modern shard]

im at it but arent these all for path of titans like gondwa and panjura

[sleek marsh]

Yeah but you can have 4 if you didn't pay for artists to model unless human structures you're not gonna use for 5 years

[oblique geyser]

so the famous The isle killer, was always The isle?

[void marlin]

No, it was always me

[oblique geyser]

[neon elk]

they pay for one 3d hard surface modeller
(used to be two) for human structures

I do not think it has been badly pushing development back with his cost

[void marlin]

Imma eat The Isle servers brb

[regal notch]

Noooo but I wanna keep playing The Peninsula™

[lethal onyx]

Echoes of The Beast of Titans actually

[wheat moth]

The link I gave you should take you straight to Gateway's map. If not, hit the '[close]' and click on the Map dropdown menu and select 'Gateway v0.21'.

[sleek marsh]

I get it im just saying I dont think doing so now is a good use of resources imo

[past dune]

They really aren't adjacent though. You can't be regularly pushing new builds with new content while still maintaining full focus on refining the foundations that have already been laid.

It is a zero sum game, sure, animations can be worked on without much interference, but implementation of new content does come at a cost.

[modern shard]

oh so it called gateway? thought itd be evrima. ok

[void marlin]

The Echoes of The Path of the Beast >

[regal notch]

Now let's talk about migration zones again

[feral shadow]

The isthmus is the best dinosaur gamr

[lethal onyx]

Evrima is just the branch, the island is gateway

[wheat moth]

Yeah, Gateway is the map, Evrima is the version of the game.

[regal notch]

I love The Columbo™

[feral shadow]

John evrima

[void marlin]

Gamr

[glacial panther]

Oh I didn't necessarily mean implementing the animations, just being a devil's advocate in technically work on species could be done, just not necessarily finished to a proper extent

[lethal onyx]

Survive the Evrima

[oblique geyser]

wouldn't it be funny if we got the HT while this specific argument is going on

[feral shadow]

Shush

[neon elk]

if this was 2020
sure

But human development has slowly been ramping up
and the 'fundamentals' of The Isle Evrima is now complete (complete... as much as Afterthought can)

now is exactly the perfect time to start bringing in the 2nd faction of The Isle
rather then bloating the dino roster with a lot of currently unnecessary playables, especially more carnis

[void marlin]

Ok sorry

[regal notch]

Beast Titans of Bermuda Extinction where

[void marlin]

Actually, no

[void marlin]

Hacker you fell off what happened?

[past dune]

I love the Dunning Kruger effect.

[void marlin]

Didn't study it sorry

[cinder cave]

Hacker knows ball

[past dune]

I wasn't even in the discord in 2018- oh wait.

[regal notch]

btw Anky is in that dino docu

[halcyon dove]

anky? did someone say anky?

[void marlin]

Fr? Imma watch it then

[feral shadow]

:þ

[void marlin]

pinslops u

[regal notch]

guys that lil patch they put inside bags of jerky, that's edible right?

[feral shadow]

Tailrides you

[sleek marsh]

For how its gone, yes. I more mean if I was running it i wouldn't have ramped human anything up from 2020, I'd have focused entirely on roster and mechanics, I wouldn't have even made a new map until more recently. Look if you budget an amount for development costs and have some you can use for hiring a human structure 3d artist, thats money you could always use for more of the main core game you're losing out on, even if its not a lot or a large % or the budget its that much more you're losing out on and that stacks over time. I think had they focused entirely on dinosaurs and gameplay mechanics, we'd be much further along on dino roster, prolly about to release spino

[void marlin]

Hacks u

[past dune]

I sure hope not.

[oblique geyser]

[halcyon dove]

anything is edible, once.

[regal notch]

I sure hopen't

[bleak goblet]

Is this a joke animation, or will it actually be in game for some mechanic?

[void marlin]

Ian The Third has died

[regal notch]

it's an actual animation, possibly for running on the floor of the sea

[oblique geyser]

orange
because if you eat one, you can't eat that one anymore
wrong ping

[modern shard]

im putting my coordinates in the top right locatiuon thing but its not showing me where i am

[past dune]

So true.

[void marlin]

Skill issue

[bleak goblet]

I was gonna say, why wasting my time with tomfoolery

[wheat moth]

Might be a silly question, but did you press Enter after pasting them in?

[modern shard]

lol i belive so but ill try again

[void marlin]

I have a question

[regal notch]

no one wants Bary more than me here

[past dune]

I wish The Isle acted more like an early access game.

[regal notch]

I have a pen

[void marlin]

I wish Hacker acted more like a hacker

[regal notch]

TRUE THO?

[modern shard]

when i press enter it does nothing. i do keep pressing show which also seems to do nothing

[past dune]

What does this even mean

[feral shadow]

I wish ian acted more like an anky fan

[void marlin]

nothing

[regal notch]

I wish Serene Eclipsed the sun

[feral shadow]

Install esp hacks/j

[void marlin]

I wish Serene acted more like a Brachi fan

[past dune]

Gimme 10 minutes

[remote sandal]

Untranslatable doomer speak

[wheat moth]

Just PM'd you.

[past dune]

So true.

[void marlin]

Your pfp is cute ngl

[oblique geyser]

thanks

[void marlin]

Not u, ur stinky

[remote sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391871280650915981/1424634893932953640/Rweserious.gif

[oblique geyser]

[feral shadow]

John evrima scares me

[void marlin]

French people scares me

[oblique geyser]

oui

[void marlin]

AAAAAAAAAAHHHH

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-Yxq7SC6yTAwZG

[oblique geyser]

yeah lightclaw

[feral shadow]

Were gonna need ian the 5th soon

[void marlin]

Have you tried turning it on and off?

[void marlin]

No, he's a stinky Ian

[regal notch]

yesn't

[feral shadow]

Saved

[crude girder]

Tapwing is playing rv there yet?

[regal notch]

look at that dog, dog gone :V

[void marlin]

Top 5 numbers:
1- 2
3- 7
2- i forgor
7- 6
2- 0

[crude girder]

You scared it away…

[past dune]

Insane and absurd behavior.

[regal notch]

I have that effect on non-people

[oblique prism]

thats so real

[void marlin]

Said the baby eater

[past dune]

I havent eaten any today, you are being unfair.

[regal notch]

he's doing his damndest to get there I believe it

[regal notch]

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T

[void marlin]

I can give you my baby if you want

[past dune]

Well...

[regal notch]

okay I needa make something rq with that said

[late wedge]

havent played in awhile spawned allo and was in endless swampland.. which way is out??

[void marlin]

||if you readed this, you're stinky||

[oblique geyser]

ironic

[sleek marsh]

Are you an allo parent?

[void marlin]

Okay... Where's the problem?

[past dune]

I can't actually read, I just read the vibes of the letters in front of me.

[cinder cave]

I wonder...

[oblique geyser]

rex

[void marlin]

I never nested as a Allo :(

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jet-28

[void marlin]

I hope all of them stub their toe

[oblique geyser]

stop...

[cinder cave]

YAYYYY

[oblique geyser]

dude

[void marlin]

You wanted it? Oh sorry, I ate it

[regal notch]

islecord coded

[past dune]

[feral shadow]

What...

[slate trellis]

how do you paleo call

[void marlin]

Wtf

[regal notch]

LMAO

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/no-steve-harvey-gif-11015118

[remote sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1430019214571208714/vergil_dramatic_turn.gif

[void marlin]

ALT + F4

[cinder cave]

@regal notch No

[slate trellis]

actual answer please...

[past dune]

I can't believe lan would say such a thing...

[cinder cave]

Stop

[oblique geyser]

[void marlin]

1 + F

[regal notch]

WHAT IT'S KONOSUBA LOL

[past dune]

-# nsfw

[oblique geyser]

i think we all should guess when the HT is coming instead

[regal notch]

is it?

[cinder cave]

Late april

[oblique geyser]

UGH

[regal notch]

tomorrow

[oblique geyser]

i like this one more

[feral shadow]

Eventually

[void marlin]

Hitlist (people I'll eat):
1- Venan
2- Hackor

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[neon elk]

I don’t think focusing entirely on finishing the roster is the right approach.
The core mechanics and fundamental systems of The Isle have always needed to come first.
That has been the focus since the Recode began back in March, 2019.

Saying that, to note at least, the roster itself isn’t actually the most complex thing to implement (by itself).
Going off from what we've seen in the past.
Compared to stuff like Rex launch...

Nonetheless, we already know from Punch a fair amount of dinosaurs will essentially function as variations of the same archetype. And thus only existing as optional playables for unofficials (likely all turned off for Officials, or whatever "Official Gamemode")
And so, because of this, finishing the entire roster just leads to roster bloat.

In my opinion, about humans, hiring a single hard surface modeller like VisualTech isn’t a bad decision either and probably will help Isle in the long run.
Having someone slowly build human structures in the background creates a library of assets that will be ready once human gameplay is fully implemented plus allows the developers to stress test these assets in-game, helping see the effect on performance (client and server-wise).
We even saw last year that humans are slowly getting new backbone systems, handheld animations, and gun mechanics.
Seemingly, they know they're almost ready to start Gen2s

However, yes, that money could theoretically go elsewhere,
but if we look at the team’s development history, they’ve already expanded significantly in other areas such as animation and other teams (sound team being one, recently).
If they truly wanted more programmers, they likely would have hired them by now.
-# But to be fair, video game programming is one of the hardest programming jobs in the tech industry, so it isn’t surprising that the publicly known programming team is still relatively small.

but yeah. If I'm hopeful, I can see Gen2s starting by start of main branch
hopefully.

[regal notch]

WALL OF TEXT JUMPSCARE

[void marlin]

Holy yapper

[oblique geyser]

man.

[past dune]

Sadly this is incorrect.

[neon elk]

no

[feral shadow]

No way you read allat that fast

[void marlin]

Light is correct, hacker is wrong

[neon elk]

i don't need no roster bloat
sorry hackered

I do not need more dinosaurs!!

[past dune]

?

[neon elk]

i need the isle systems to be fixed
and the huemans to finally appear proper

[remote sandal]

Give me more roster because I said so

[void marlin]

This ↑

[slate trellis]

schizophrenia

[neon elk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wth-luistt8n-dinosaur-wtf-ieRtGgdBKEXnRpxAed

[regal notch]

I'd love to bloat the roster

[remote sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-labo-scary-horror-gif-4968218050647935801

[void marlin]

@regal notch you're making me angry

[past dune]

Not what I'm referring to.
"That has always been the focus since the Recode began back in March, 2019"

This is incorrect.
The focus hasn't been placed on the core mechanics and fundamental systems, those systems have not come first.

[feral shadow]

Dont we all

[regal notch]

so usual day then?

[oblique geyser]

talking to a ghost makes you look crazy

[void marlin]

Lmao

[feral shadow]

Who said I want already,

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/monster-house-meme-eats-it-eated-vv2K8AnlSA6bakg798

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-patting-bubble-good-boy-pat-pat-pats-pat-gif-5609675390422657440

[void marlin]

I ate the guy under me

[past dune]

This is an imperfect loop.

[past dune]

That much has been well established lan.

[regal notch]

that's because I'm always finding new things to eat

[remote sandal]

You're imagining it

[feral shadow]

I thought you said imperfectionslop and I was so confused

[void marlin]

I see

[past dune]

You might be unwell.

[remote sandal]

hacker called Ian lan

[oblique geyser]

lan

[void marlin]

That's why I'll eat him

[regal notch]

I woke up and my cat was trying to get into the garbage and I said "BARY!" to stop her

[past dune]

I don't think I've ever called him by any other name.

[feral shadow]

I know this

[oblique geyser]

did it work

[void marlin]

No

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-digital-circus-caine-angry-gif-1072059275100498120

[regal notch]

it did so I mean... Bary confirmed?

[void marlin]

Sorry but you're evil (offensive tone)

[oblique geyser]

pretty much

[feral shadow]

Clearly she was alarmed at the thought of another, larger predator in her vicinity, and stopped what she was doing to enter fight or flight

[regal notch]

t r u e

[oblique geyser]

no i'm not

[void marlin]

Guys my cockatiel ate a plane (a Boeing 737), what should I do?

[remote sandal]

Hey islander, I'm in your walls

[past dune]

Am I an Islander?

[remote sandal]

You have long since

[void marlin]

No

[regal notch]

Peninsuler

[past dune]

I do live on a landmass surrounded by ocean.

[remote sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/very-soon-gif-26337169

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seals-awa-awawa-niko-gif-2415879163359113147

[feral shadow]

That's me

[past dune]

It sure is a good thing we don't sin much.

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/monsters-eat-omnom-6G1BhuIWyVEhG

[void marlin]

Animal in harm
@cinder cave

[regal notch]

living through The Peninsula™

[feral shadow]

I have a confession

[oblique geyser]

no

[past dune]

[void marlin]

Don't confess please

[regal notch]

confess please

[feral shadow]

I have done nothing but sin for the last 7 days

[oblique geyser]

you're hurting the seal

[past dune]

Why would you do that to the poor seal

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-cute-poke-sweet-gif-16818145

[regal notch]

honestly same, for Bary

[feral shadow]

I didnt know about the seak

[past dune]

Goodness gracious...

[void marlin]

That's violence...

[past dune]

https://tenor.com/view/lovetohatemc-gif-2986135261748701767

[void marlin]

I think Hackerius Haverius Hector The IV is a
TO BE CONTINUED

[oblique geyser]

for a moment i thought the blue one was stepping on a piece of cheese

[regal notch]

guys are dinosaurs furries? real question

[void marlin]

Ask rumple

[feral shadow]

Bo, they are not furries, an anthro dinosaur without feathers would be a scalie

[regal notch]

hrm

[cinder cave]

They typically fall into avian or scalie

[oblique geyser]

they never told me anything about that so i wouldn't know
it's rude to assume

[regal notch]

so what's a fish?

[void marlin]

A fish 🐟

[feral shadow]

Food

[regal notch]

can fish be furries

[regal notch]

This goes against the only truth in life I know from the one form of education I gained from media

[oblique geyser]

https://giphy.com/gifs/water-swimming-round-IjPLlyNa8ajCLfIsA6

[void marlin]

Idk but Bary can be a furry
Cya guys

[feral shadow]

Ywah I should sleep

[regal notch]

furscale

[void marlin]

Harm in animal

[regal notch]

I slept all day. I should sleep some more so Bary comes out sooner

[feral shadow]

Its midnight

[somber urchin]

[past dune]

Would a feathered dinosaur be a feathery?

[oblique geyser]

[feral shadow]

What rumple said

[void marlin]

Would you be a furry?

[past dune]

Probably not.

[cinder cave]

Avian

[past dune]

Well thats not very original.

[oblique geyser]

so not a no
i see

[cinder cave]

I sentance you to generic therapod

[void marlin]

Are you not a furry because you aren't one or aren't your a furry because you furry aren't

[regal notch]

so would lthis be a scalie?

[void marlin]

Tbh every dinosaur is generic.
Except Dryo

[cinder cave]

Lets get back on topic, the isle

[cinder cave]

True

[oblique geyser]

whatever happened to mecha-godzilla

[regal notch]

Iron Giant beat him up

[feral shadow]

That's a woman

[void marlin]

I would eat it ngl

[past dune]

Wait a second... that doesn't look like cyber dragon nova

[regal notch]

NOT ACCORDING TO HER TYPE

[void marlin]

Go to sleep

[feral shadow]

You too

[uncut mason]

Give me more dragon vibes, monster effer

[past dune]

...
sigh
The Isle.

[void marlin]

Never

[regal notch]

you're right, I'm just playing cringe labrynths 💀

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lorax-mad-anger-angry-gif-7783498

[wheat moth]

[neon elk]

Realistically, though, the focus has largely been on core systems — I am NOT saying that it has been "do fundamental, then dinosaurs"
I am only speaking upon the mechanical side of things, the core mechanics
not dinosaurs
nonetheless, since Recode began the stated priority has consistently been fundamental mechanics rather than just filling out the entire roster as fast as they can and adding every mechanic + non-fundamental system.

When Evrima started, the goal wasn’t simply to rebuild the legacy roster.
The focus was on implementing the new systems the game was supposed to revolve around. The core
Things like the growth overhaul, nesting, and later mechanics like diets.
Those were always presented as the core pillars of the redesign, albeit, the time it has taken, as you know

Now, you could argue that the exact order of these systems has changed over time,
Which is fair
The roadmap, trello, and the overall development direction have definitely evolved.
Some mechanics moved around in priority, and the roster itself has changed significantly from earlier plans.
If you want to scrutinise that level of detail from my one liner ... then yes, you could say the priorities have shifted.
But that doesn’t mean the overall philosophy changed for wanting to get the core out before the unnecessary.
Since around 2020, especially once the Trello...
the focus has repeatedly been on building the core systems first: nesting, diets, core gameplay loops, and the other foundational mechanics that define Evrima.
Buckled in with a regular or small handful of dinosaurs on the side, almost always

But sure, you could scrutinise my statement again
As the period of 2019 is definitely harder to evaluate and thus we didn't truly know what they wanted out of recode/evrima for its fundamental building block period
Heck, maybe there is a few tiny holes in time where it wasn't the case. Such be memory
But on the overall, it certainly has always been getting the core

[feral shadow]

The isle

[regal notch]

AAAAAAAAAH GOD

[oblique geyser]

. . .

[uncut mason]

TLDR

[void marlin]

I'm actually a woman ||(not real)||
Now cya guys

[regal notch]

This is incorrect tho

[uncut mason]

Bye fellow woman

[regal notch]

gn woman

[sleek marsh]

By roster I mean the main one, not the variations. I get the library of assets that can be tested, sure. I just wouldn't do it this way is all, tho that's not reality so w/e but I appreciate the engagement

[oblique geyser]

misinformation

[void marlin]

You'll never know my gender

[uncut mason]

I mean Ian basically gives us the answer dude

[void marlin]

Yeah... I'm a birb

[past dune]

Yeah, I was probably just being pedantic... the point I was getting at one a broader sense was that the Isle has been more focused on sustaining larger, well polished content releases. Incrementally adding core mechanics over time. Rather than doing the sensible, and more common practice of frontloading development with getting all of the core mechanics done right at the start, and refining and expanding on those foundations later.

[oblique geyser]

your pronouns are anky
you're anky

[neon elk]

even in the period of pre-trello ... the batch deployment period of Envrima

Each batch is designed to function as cohesively as possible together. We will communicate deeper details to you as a batch is selected to be delivered. The plan is to make sure a base dinosaur is feature complete before we begin putting in more that will branch off and share mechanics.This means nesting, night vision, grouping, diets, and anything else shared among every single dinosaur will be in the game before the roster moves forward with dinosaur implementation.

[void marlin]

Dammit

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-tadc-caine-tadc-glitch-gooseworx-gif-13237298292564981499

[past dune]

Yeah, I just think that mentality isn't focused on establishing core mechanics in a reasonable time, as much as its just focused on releasing content drops.

[void marlin]

🐟

[past dune]

Polished content drops are something for developers to be focused on after the groundwork has been laid. To incorporate the additions of groundwork into the content drops feels sloppy.

[void marlin]

Ping me

[past dune]

Ok.
I won't.

[neon elk]

I mean
to be fair

My position has never been 'they be doing core first and only first, thus trying to get everything out first and asap

I've said in my convo with Church that Afterthought is... yeah Afterthought
and that it is a weird choice to only have three programmers — but they (the devs) have chosen that
that being, it clearly not an issue to hire more devs though, as they have done with other teams.

[neon elk]

why

[past dune]

Is true.

[neon elk]

then we are talking about different things
if you're talking about some sort of 'cored roster idea'

which definitely works
its basically what we've seen recently and even back to the beginning of recode — Utah being used as the base for many playables, and thus was the reason it was picked

i still believe having a dev on human stuff is the right call

[past dune]

Em dash detected
AI generated message accusation has been issued.

[mint plank]

any eggs on Official US envira? (omni, trood - preority)

[sleek marsh]

I probably disagree cuz im not a big fan of the whole human half they wanna do

[past dune]

Thats a fun fanmade promotional video idea.

[neon elk]

ITS NOT FANMADE!!!

[past dune]

In that case its bad.

[neon elk]

it was made in pre-dev !!

[past dune]

In that case its alright.

[neon elk]

thats fair
but in the grand scheme of things, it does not come down to what we want

what i want... what hacker wants :))...
we know they want humans, and thus, how can we see this being possible?
and thus, so we discuss

[past dune]

I think they should have started by releasing humans alongside playable dinosaurs... since they are half of the respective game.

[neon elk]

i hate how people all of a sudden know what em dashes are
i've always loved em dashes — see :((

[past dune]

To delay them almost 7 years after the beginning of development is uh... against common practice, to say the least.

[past dune]

Yeah, thats what an LLM would say.

[oblique geyser]

@void marlin this you?

[neon elk]

its weird
its gonna be very weird once they're out

no one is ready for them
no one truly knows what they truly even want with them

[wraith grove]

to get prime elder do you need to maintain perfect diet or do you gotta just do it once and then you're done

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-this-do-not-do-this-indian-guy-indian-meme-gas-station-employee-gif-16082942181812825239

[void marlin]

No, that's AI
-# delete this post it's actually me

[oblique geyser]

[void marlin]

Do this again

[sleek marsh]

Just once is fine but dont lose all nutrients, keep at least one up

[neon elk]

same

[past dune]

You know how they could have made it not weird...

By adding them in at the start...

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/shogun-pull-yourself-together-man-cosmo-jarvis-anjin-john-blackthorne-gif-13641998807213395007

[regal notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLxNtjfR2dI

[past dune]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-2-jjk-season-2-jjk-s2-gif-1536825095395816698

[oblique geyser]

you should remake this

[regal notch]

WE GOT KILLABLE TREES LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[neon elk]

i wish for isle to have more programmers

[neon elk]

oh

[neon elk]

but maybe Brooks's Law...

[oblique geyser]

but now make a whole strain model and make it a 48 minutes movie

[neon elk]

oh

[regal notch]

if we knock down trees, we haves ways to reach herreras and hypsis and force them to change trees

[wraith grove]

im so excited for strains bro

[sick kraken]

can they add stink

[cedar forge]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-re9-resident-evil-requiem-gaming-video-games-gif-5434649852757149662

Had me invested in that video highkey.

[robust axle]

how do i grow trex is someone trynna help me i js got ts

[sullen wharf]

Guys how does the smell mechanic work guys ? if i hide in the bush they basically smell us out or smth ?

[uncut mason]

Leaf hopper!

[uncut mason]

No

[uncut mason]

You can smell blood trails and footprints which fade over time. Rolling in mud prevents this. And there are mutations to have your steps fade faster

[sullen wharf]

Ok thanks but i mean the red icon on the smell mechanic bar

[uncut mason]

That’s if there is a large mixed group or a Dino that’s a lot bigger than you nearby

[sullen wharf]

But sometime we can't smell it right ?

[uncut mason]

Yeah that’s why it’s on the smell bar

[indigo cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855535605178171422/1479619393318162473/SPOILER_twitter-gif-2030032512613806435_69ab6079c4040.gif

[sullen wharf]

Thanks

[sullen wharf]

Dam

[uncut mason]

Oh, you can’t smell a croc underwater