isle-discussion

[sick kraken]

i’m just a stupid chud. it’s the king. sorry.

[indigo cave]

In case it wasn't painfully obvious it's ironic, not bait

[regal notch]

this conversation is something else watching from the outside, kinda like the "If you give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, eventually one of them will type the complete works of Shakespeare" thing. I'm seeing people talk like the devs themselves have no programmer, no ideas, nothing, and thinking everyone's ideas are either 100% bad or 100% valid, it's wild.

[past dune]

I think The Isle devs should bring me onto the team as lead game designer and let me redesign their entire game to fit my specific idea of the most fun and satisfying version of The Isle to play.

[gilded palm]

Lack of player interaction is an issue if the goal is constant player interaction. I think the design of the game is pretty clearly not leaning in that direction, with many mechanics encouraging you to avoid unneeded encounters when possible

[regal notch]

ah okay there's the satire, okay I'm good

[sick kraken]

constant interaction isn’t what i want at all

[gilded palm]

Based and GDD pilled

[past dune]

[sick kraken]

theres a spectrum here and we’re just too low on the interaction side as is right now

[indigo cave]

What's GDD

[kindred panther]

rex has the tools to deal with everything. rex is strongest.

[past dune]

Game Design Document

[misty pivot]

hi

[indigo cave]

Everyone on chat right now is on the spectrum that's for sure

[past dune]

NUH UH

[gilded palm]

It was hyperbole, the point being that having ideas is great, but those ideas have to align with the intended design direction for the project as a whole. Any ideas guy brought in has to fit with that mindset and if they propose a solid concept that doesn't fit the project, they'd be better off making their own with it

[regal notch]

you're just a tad late to that conversation lol

[indigo cave]

Hello xenon

[regal notch]

there's a reason Dondi hates doing streams showing the content and would rather be playing chiv 2

[gilded palm]

the people who propose game-wide reworks or extremely detailed documentation for how they'd make a given system might find a better use of that energy starting their own project they have full creative control over, or saving it for a modded version of the game when full support drops

[regal notch]

like echoes of extinction

[indigo cave]

Is echoes even an offshot of the isle?

[past dune]

Couldn't be.

[regal notch]

have you seen the hud showing growth and etc? ho boy it's close lol

[sick kraken]

i mean yeah modding is gonna be what makes the game really good

[trail shard]

Isle The?

[gilded palm]

Unironically sure, or like Beasts of Bermuda. If you have a lot of good ideas, you could try shopping them around and getting a dev team together, or bashing out a tech demo and seeing if people are interested in your concept

[sick kraken]

echoes seems promising but something about the way the animals move around is weird. it’s too fluid i think

[kindred panther]

there's going to be a mod that disables keys 'a' and 'd' so your dino can't turn in place.

[regal notch]

there's very clear inspiration that's for sure

[sick kraken]

DAMN 😭

[indigo cave]

I mean... Similarities (or tbh copying a working system in this case) doesn't mean it came from here, that game is looking way more like an ark kinda thing with playable dinos

[gilded palm]

stuff like good art and music can come later if your mechanics are rock-solid, which I think a lot of these dinosaur games don't take into account, and spend too much time on pretty assets and not enough time on having a game to play with them

[sick kraken]

don’t worry they put status effects on the right, so it’s different

[past dune]

cough The Isle cough

[sick kraken]

and promise giant rosters

[regal notch]

this is also not accounting for the drama that divided the team and created the majority of The Isle's problems to begin with and resulted in the birth of PoT too. Imagine had it all never happened, what kinda game we'd have and how soon things would be finished

[sick kraken]

stop the new dinosaurs and just make the current game awesome and cool. after you add quetz. gotta do that first

[kindred panther]

hopefully, they won't have a rex in that game right? no way it's going to be an isle copy.

[gilded palm]

The Isle's situation is a bit different imo, since they did start with more assets than most given the inheritence from TSL and heavy use of pre-made models early on

[sick kraken]

the dinosaurs are like popular game dinosaurs oddly similar cousin. it’s like the same guy under a name nobody’s heard before it’s odd

[gilded palm]

like Maia, Diablo and Trikes models, iirc, were all already made and purchased as-is for implementation, instead of being custom. They were later replaced by fully custom ones tho

[distant lodge]

...and if the team hadn't splt, we might have ended up with a questing system in The Isle where dinos are expected to take flowers to bees in order to grow. thank god that split happened

[sick kraken]

they didn’t do theri they did some other therizinosaur nobody’s heard of. same with quetz. they did some big weird thing that isn’t quetz or hatze to be fun and unique. many such cases in that game

[gilded palm]

To a degree you do need variety in the roster if you're trying to do anything resembling an ecosystem, and cutting new dinosaurs out doesn't always gaurentee other content arrives faster

[indigo cave]

Nah that's just not true, that game is aiming from the getgo to go for primal humans AND dinosaurs together. Yeah there are similarities but it's like comparing the isle and pot all over again, all three are their own thing with their own target audience

Ah shucks didn't quote the reply

[gilded palm]

if the animation team stopped animating dinosaurs it's not like they can animate a building into being done

[sick kraken]

we’ve got plenty diversity rn. coulda stopped at rex methinks. get quetz tho

[regal notch]

it's possible. in another timeline we have Bary already and every dino naturally fits in their biomes and there's actual logic for dinos being where they're supposed to be organically

[past dune]

Indeed.
I think for Evrima, development wise though, saying it's non traditional is an understatement. Rather than trying to establish all of the core mechanics as quickly as possible, releasing them incrementally in polished content drops over upwards of 7 years was certainly a choice.

[sick kraken]

they can keep animating till every dino’s done. just have programming make the game really good

[regal notch]

anyways, bary in devblog release next week yeh? plz?

[gilded palm]

Programmers are still limited by other members of the team too, and their priorities are probably different than yours would be for "making the game good"

[sick kraken]

the animators don’t need to wait for the programmers at all if i understand correctly. why do programmers need to keep programming dino’s for animators to keep animating

[indigo cave]

Wdym next week? Dob vleg is Friday

[distant lodge]

for sure it's been far too slow, with 8 years wasted faffing about, but it's slowly coming back on track

[sick kraken]

if their priority is release more dino’s into the game then ya

[regal notch]

yeh but they wouldn't release a patch on the same week

[indigo cave]

I can't sleep 💃

[hoary sage]

In later stages of development there has to be a back and forth between programmers and animators to make sure everything looks and works smoothly after implementation into the engine

[grim aspen]

@gilded palm

[indigo cave]

I can't stop turuturu the loneliness~

[sick kraken]

ya so just do that as you go then

[past dune]

[regal notch]

I bet the mods watch this and have a good giggle at everyone trying to guess how development works lol

[gilded palm]

I'm mixed on this, because on the one hand having every core mechanic in the game [or all that are feasible] on just Omni and Teno would've made working on those core mechanics easier, probably, because less animals to make sure it works for. On the other hand, a lot of the mechanics benefit from having specific animals to work on them, and unless you picked one animal to be absolutely loaded with mechanics, it'd be tough to get them all in

[hoary sage]

Clearly that type of system doesn't work out well, or work with the team's workflow

[sick kraken]

yeah stop animating ur dino that’s like 14 playables beyond what we have now and mess with this austro thing. seems fine

[indigo cave]

I think it's the opposite, the sheer amount of especulation we do must drive the NDA insane

[regal notch]

100%

[sick kraken]

games got plenty diversity in animals let’s just do mechanics ye programmers… please… for me?

[indigo cave]

Stop animating austro and animate anky goddamit

[gilded palm]

Like trying to make a migration system but you only have one herbivore would be hard to verify, when part of the goal would be moving different species around in different patterns. Of course this is all theoretical since it's not the path we ended up on.

[regal notch]

but you just know this is up on someone's side screen and they're sipping coffee going "lmao" watching people descend into madness trying to say what's best for the game, how animation and programming works, what the game's going to be... it's prolly both maddening and hilarious after a while.

[gilded palm]

Pinkname (derogatory)

[regal notch]

surely we fuel their fire to work on the game to some extent because of how moronic we act

[sick kraken]

i think we’re beyond the point of some new playable really affecting how big systems should work

[gilded palm]

We're also more or less beyond the point of new core mechanics being added

[indigo cave]

I will continue to say that having so many dinosaur overlap roles before getting all the unique roles filled out is painful... Wdym we will have two small tier semiaquatics, two ceratopsians and a billion bipedal theropods before a single ankylosauridae

[gilded palm]

We're at what... Strains? Do those count as a mechanic? Hill sliding I guess?

[sick kraken]

being added maybe. not really. but they should still be tweaked

[regal notch]

to be fair, we don't have any real semi-aquatics, I'm not going to count herrera, just no way lol

[sick kraken]

we’ve got strains nesting zones. humans. everything with humans.

i more so want tweaks to existing systems like ai and zones tho

[gilded palm]

Tweaking doesn't really take much time if it's minor stuff like you seem to be proposing, so it shouldn't interfere with adding new playables if it was a priority

[sick kraken]

we’ve also got dino ai being worked on. there’s a lot more mechanics coming than strains lol oh and sliding down hills

[indigo cave]

Hill sliding... I still don't get the point, is dropping from 50m up and taking zero damage because you didn't separate from the ground an intended mechanics that we are reinforcing with animations?

[slate trellis]

can we remove dinosaurs from the game

[sick kraken]

no i want major changes

[gilded palm]

Humans aren't really a core mechanic of the dinosaur faction, so I don't tend to count them when discussing remaining mechanics

[regal notch]

ya know what my favorite mechanic is? How these stupid mother bunny rabbits zig zag nonstop preventing my ptera from ever eating them

[indigo cave]

• human player probably

[past dune]

I think for certain mechanics like bleed, fractures, etc. Different creatures would be required to best take advantage of it. But for things like elders, mutations, diets, etc. There really is no disadvantage to establishing it as quickly and as roughly as possible to get an MVP.

Developing things in blocks, and releasing them in keystone updates just stalls the establishment of that foundation. By spending time adding more creatures, polishing them, and getting them to a release ready state rather than frontloading your development with the creation of the core mechanics doesn't really make any sense.

Hell, humans are supposed go be half the game, and yet 7 years in, their implementation has only gone so far as a human controller running around with a debug gun. I'm sure there has been a but more work into it behind the scenes... but I still fail to see the advantage of stalling it out for this long, rather than having it be one of the very first things you implement.

Getting a slice of the finished game as soon as possible would be a normal thing to prioritize, splitting it up like this doesn't really achieve anything in the long run.

[sick kraken]

i would count them as they take programming time

[gilded palm]

Then that's not tweaking lol

[slate trellis]

PROUD of it too

[indigo cave]

Why aren't we programming armour instead of sliding down a hill 😭

[sick kraken]

ok replace tweaking with changing then

[slate trellis]

and im gonna COMPLAIN when i cant kill anything past like RAPTOR SIZE

[gilded palm]

Like a tweak would be "We changed the food value of a migration zone from 10 to 15" but if it's anything major that's more like a rework, and something unlikely to happen without damn good reason

[grim aspen]

Hypernova (Derogatory)

[past dune]

TenontosaurusSpecies1
TenontosaurusSpecies2
TenontosaurusSpecies3
etc.
You could even color code them.

[regal notch]

iirc the claim was because "humans are easy to implement" so they're working on the harder stuff first. Which... I think is smart when you want to know what the roster fully is before working on the thing that will populate the game's servers the most

[indigo cave]

Degradable weaponry (teeth, claws, horns etc), hygiene, stress... So many cool mechanics we could have

[sick kraken]

i want to be species2 if that’s ok

[past dune]

Nah there are too many of those, please select species 3 for more efficient testing.

[sick kraken]

stupid game

[regal notch]

Pinning carnivore species 1
Pinning carnivore species 2
BIG BAD Pinning Carnivore Species

[indigo cave]

Also what the hell happened to droughts? I saw it working on a video on it and nothing ever again

[sick kraken]

wait what? it was working

[regal notch]

you could say they... got burned out 🥁

[gilded palm]

While true that having a vertical slice is useful, I'd argue for mechanics like diets and mutations, you want more species than fewer for those, as while you could give, say, Omniraptor a diet, having only Tenontosaurus on it wouldn't be very useful

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/K7NHFtsLG4nqU

[lost citrus]

last we heard droughts are planned, but floods wouldn't work I guess

[indigo cave]

Rumple can I get my image perms back? Pretty please? 🥺

[regal notch]

I want sno

[sick kraken]

hopefully floods could work on an entirely new map

[gilded palm]

I think some of the mechanics like skins probably could've been later, and others like nesting and elders earlier, but I can see merit to introducing playables alongside mechanics to verify that things like diets [need multiple species for carnivores to have options] or migraitons [need multiple species to verify how having multiple different migrations at once works] are functioning as intended

[past dune]

I guess that comes down to how they want to design certain mechanics determining the pace of development but that doesn't really change my broader point of splitting things into polished content drops rather than trying to fully invest into getting all of the foundations laid right at the start is quite odd from a more traditional or common sense development standpoint.

[lost citrus]

That volcano aint going up high enough to get snow in the tropics

Will probably have to wait for a temperate map (unless they give us one of the little domes back some day 🙏 )

[gilded palm]

fwiw I think the common sense or traditional standpoint was thrown out when the kickstarter failed and we ended up with a giant roster of playable dinosaurs lol

[regal notch]

god I'd love a temperature controlled dome that has a unique biome on its own changing as time passes\

[past dune]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[indigo cave]

Severe weather conditions would be so nice... Strong wind and thunderstorms could move people into forests. Floods could open up the map for semiaquatics and move the land players to higher altitude areas. Droughts gathering people on bast water sources.

Hell give us the volcano having a mini eruption where only the west side of the map has vegetation

[gilded palm]

The game's initial vision was very tight and focused, everything since that decision has been playing by ear, especially as ideas that seemed good on paper proved difficult to execute on, or just flat out bad in practice

[regal notch]

like nesting grounds :')

[gilded palm]

I member Progression and how it almost worked out until people didn't like species being treated as levels [They still treat them that way even in games like BoB]

[indigo cave]

Why aren't they back 🥺🥲

[past dune]

Well now that's just a Design skill issue. 😼
Simply plan harder, GDD better.

[gilded palm]

Fwiw that one is kind of a "Well obviously this has problems" concept

[sick kraken]

i just think the 2 biggest factors in how the game feels right now is zones and ai. i’d really like them to take some time and nail those down to what they want them to be. we have enough playables to have the information to do so

[regal notch]

they said because they're camped by predators and it's easier to just nest in a bush somewhere iirc lol, we had confirmation from Dondi somewhere in chat

[past dune]

The obvious reason.

[regal notch]

imo there's a LOT of those we still have in this game tho'

[gilded palm]

Go my child, GDD a perfect dinosaur survival game [The year is 2015 and no one has attempted this, and most dinosaur projects are going belly-up rapidly]

[vital onyx]

shoutout to the herrerasaur swarms

[past dune]

If I was there things woulda gone different

[coarse nimbus]

Doesnt mean that nesting grounds are gone. Just need to be worked on

[gilded palm]

I jest, but I do not envy anyone who set out to try and do what The Isle aimed for at the time they chose to do it

When the closest thing they had for comparison was Wolfquest

[indigo cave]

Bruh it's a nesting zone why are people allowed to camp. It should be like a sanctuary. If you aren't gestating you sink in the mud. If you are in the area all your damage gets cut by like 90% and you cannot hurt juvies or babies

[regal notch]

alright, I'll go find the quote lol

[regal notch]

there it is, ty @lost citrus

[sick kraken]

i don’t like the idea that predators aren’t allowed in at all tho.

[past dune]

The benefit of hindsight is something they did not have. Although, tbh my view of the ideal version of the game hasn't shifted much over the last 5 years or so. So hindsight is only going back so far.

[vital onyx]

troodon and herrera nesting is super fun cos you can nest just about anywhere

[coarse nimbus]

There was nothing about it being scrapped entirely tho

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/irrfan-khan-heroes-reactions-expressions-kulfy-gif-8248604824434862820

[indigo cave]

PatrickBooing.gif

[regal notch]

it just doesn't seem worth the development time and we've gotten mutations that seem to promote nesting better instead

[gilded palm]

5 years ago was 2020, and we had legacy, BoB and early PoT [iirc] to reference, along with hundreds of nacent competition most of which would die in weeks lol

[sick kraken]

imagine the isle with dragons 😱

[gilded palm]

10 years ago I think there's a lot more difficulty in pinpointing what does and doesn't work when you, again, are working off basically just Wolfquest

[regal notch]

This is actually a thing, it's called Wings of Dawn and I'm following it very closely

[gilded palm]

remember Dinosaur battlegrounds? I think that was the only other project they were "competing" with

[vital onyx]

i was literally just thinking about it

[past dune]

Although that "vision of an ideal version" only applies to trying to capture a specific feeling, or type of experience that I only had thanks to the way The Isle was for a brief period of time.

Had that not occured, I would not have that mentality.

Going in raw, or even going in as of late stage legacy, wouldn't be even nearly the same as it is now. Even though the fundamentals haven't shifted much, the experience I had that motivated me, hadn't happened yet.

[vital onyx]

its the first thing that comes to my mind when i think of Isle competition in the early days

i was actually pretty hyped about it for years

[indigo cave]

Wait until you see whatever the hell this is (I cannot send images so I have to link it)

https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Tissoplastic_Reaper

[vital onyx]

nothing ever happened with it, sadly

[past dune]

Can't wait.

[regal notch]

what in the beast wars is this

[vital onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301696960654217306/1343042490202193983/underground_resident_1.png?ex=69a0fd4a&is=699fabca&hm=3c43489881040d28d4617bd0cb3e0278c9de95bfc6def6b08b0df099069b831e&

[past dune]

I wish I had an excuse to steal the concept of strains.

[sick kraken]

ya ik of that and the matriarch if that’s ever happening

[vital onyx]

not the reaper i just wanted to post gen 1 face

[regal notch]

kek

[sick kraken]

dinosaur mutant things are such a common trope just do it

[gilded palm]

I mean, mutants and dinosaurs have never been more interconnected than now

[vital onyx]

just make your own dinosaurs its that shrimple

[past dune]

Like genuinely, I felt like the project I was working on was missing something, and then I drafted up a mechanic to patch the hole, and then like a week later I realized that I had basically just described strains... and then I felt bad.

[gilded palm]

given that it's the Jurassic franchises' new milk cow

[sick kraken]

whatever you do, don’t do hybrid dinosaurs. i’ve grown to hate those lol

[regal notch]

ya know if we get the burrowing mechanic on dryo and any others, technically you'll be able to build a burrow and then nest in them I'd hope.... so kinda?

[vital onyx]

minmi..................

[sick kraken]

don’t show me a tricerasaurus rex

[cinder cave]

Aliens

[regal notch]

soon as dryo can do it

[gilded palm]

You've grown to hate hybrid dinosaurs, I've grown to hate poorly executed hybrid dinosaurs, we are not the same

[indigo cave]

[sick kraken]

whatever. go my velocisuchus rex

[gilded palm]

Cool hybrids exist

You won't find them in the Jurassic franchise though lmao

[indigo cave]

Don't forget communal hypsi nests

[past dune]

Strains are deadass the only thing that would really fit naturally with the idea. Hybrids wouldn't make any sense, aliens couldn't work because lore, but a mutation... yeah, that would fit perfectly.

Shame Isle beat me to it.

[sick kraken]

i like speculative evolution a lot more. i think it’s a good route

[regal notch]

the fact you can make nests in trees now is actually a good sign that burrowed nests are possible to be a thing

[gilded palm]

The Isle doesn't own the copyright on mutant dinosaurs

[vital onyx]

just make things up

[regal notch]

imagine herbivores working together to nest too, hypsie uses dryo's burrow as a nest when it's done with it etc

[vital onyx]

i play spore for 30 minutes and in that time ive already designed like 15 dinosaurs or dinosaur adjacent creatures

[sick kraken]

have u seen echoes? just go ahead and copy the isles homework nobody cares

[regal notch]

copyright infringement inbound

[past dune]

Yeah but like...
There are limits.

[indigo cave]

Sure but there is a difference between "oh that's reasonable" and "it evolved a billion teeth, a thousand ton body and all it does it's devastate everything and everyone on it's path"

Sadly strains are just the latter

[sick kraken]

spec evo/ mutant animals are so far from the limit

[gilded palm]

Copying homework is unoriginal, if you take a concept you should iterate on it

[sick kraken]

have u seen kappa the world of turtles. go watch.

[oblique geyser]

** scary noises or something*

[regal notch]

just so long as you don't have monsters coming out of spheres in a 3d map from a player character, you'll be fine

[gilded palm]

A lot of dinosaur games died because they never tried to be anything more than "The Isle but not made by The Isle devs" and naturally lost steam because they can't compete with The Isle itself when they offer nothing new

[indigo cave]

I know about the kappa from mythology idk what the world of turtles is

[oblique geyser]

[lost citrus]

dinosaurs that kept evolving

[sick kraken]

youtube series! speculative evolution on a planet of just turtles. it’s really really cool. the guy animated all of it

[indigo cave]

Omg yes

[regal notch]

sir that is a football that grew legs

[gilded palm]

"Instead of Diabloceratops we have Macharioceratops!"

Same animal under the hood, no unique mechanics, vague conifer forest looking like it was ripped out of V3

[indigo cave]

Sounds neat may give it a watch actually!

[past dune]

I would 100% want to take it in a spec evo direction, but at the end of the day it still is in the niche of Mutation your creature undergoes as a result of accruing specific rewards over multiple lives, and then spending all of those rewards on a single instance unique species mutation with a limited time but high impact. It's basically just strains with a different name.

[oblique geyser]

allo if it was good and viable

[sick kraken]

that’s what echoes does lol. specie that is very very similar to the isles but new name.

[past dune]

I would rather jump into a meat grinder.

[gilded palm]

And that's off-limits to you because why? We don't even know how the strains themselves will be implemented, so I wouldn't write off the mechanic solvely because it's too aesthetically similar

[sick kraken]

i’d rather them just have an actual therizinosaurus and quetz than their and quetz weird cousin who looks exactly the same

that said i hope echoes goes well id love to give it a try once its open

[lost citrus]

what if you didn't have some ultimate monster stage like strains, and your focus is instead on overall stylistic or gameplay differences
@past dune this was supposed to reply to you

[indigo cave]

I still think that "strains" are far far better done by PoT. You specialise in an aspect of your character, no server wipe crap just more player agency.

You want your cera to be bulkier? You want your cera to have better bile? You want your cera to have an even better gastro?

[sick kraken]

ya u could have ur “strain” rex be not really more powerful than rex. just different

[gilded palm]

Also if we want to get into specifics, you could take that base description and set it up in a bunch of different ways mechanically, so I'd still say it's worth keeping the concept

[oblique geyser]

i just hope it doesn't turn out to be PoT v2

[sick kraken]

they seem like they have a good idea going here

[gilded palm]

PoT doesn't have anything like the strain concept, it has subclasses with a degree of customization. Strains lacking the "server wipe crap" is counter to their entire design point

[sick kraken]

it’s just the dang animations that throw me off a little. the dino’s don’t look like they move with weight to em

[stone tiger]

PoT is a platform

[trail shard]

[stone tiger]

It doesn't matter what is in the base game
Its own a proof of concept

[gilded palm]

Power limited only by the time you can maintain it is literally the whole point of the Hyperendocrine strain, so boiling it down to "+5 bite force" isn't remotely a fair comparison

[past dune]

Even if the mechanic specifics and integration into the game is my own, the concept alone is so eerily close to strains, which I would describe as a very integral part of The Isle's identity that I can't help but feel uncomfortable with it.

PoT is rooted in just being an MMO with a paleo flavor, EoE is just the stone age plus dinosaurs, BoB is dinosaurs trapped in time in the Bermuda triangle... but The Isle, among all of them, is the only one with strains.

It's not something that feels natural, it's too... identity defining to treat as an easy fit.

[sick kraken]

idk. i hope strains aren’t “server wipe” its kinda a little lame if hyper carno just kills every herbi herd out there. 2 trikes. cmon. u can’t take 2 trikes. a cama? no

[stone tiger]

PoT is a platform for every kind of animal survival simulator you can think about

[gilded palm]

either PoT's versions of strains fail utterly at the prompt, or they aren't strains at all and calling them that is like saying the evolved copy abilities in Kirby and the Forgotten Land™ are a better take on strains because they don't hurt player enjoyment in any way, while remaining strict upgrades to the player's abilities

[stone tiger]

Its a platform

[indigo cave]

That's my point. Imagine if you could pick the same mutation again when you entomb? You could unlock species specific buffs that go with your playstyle

You really REALLY don't need to turn the game into a literal arms race cold war to give players a long term goal

[regal notch]

I wonder when we're gonna see the pit organ mutation again

[stone tiger]

They do not have a vision
Its a platform
You can make strains in that game any time as a mod

Original dev content in PoT is a proof of concept of different core game mechanics that modders can use to build their own creatures

[gilded palm]

You are fundamentally describing two different systems and calling them the same thing to say one is better at the prompt than the other lol. Also for what it's worth, your mutations get stronger on entombment, allowing you to still get that power bump without forcing you to spend limited mutation slots picking the same option over and over. Species specific buffs are also not off the table in a world with strains

[indigo cave]

Oh boy do I have bad news for you (strains are literally server wipes with ZERO counterplay, when someone unlocks it you just die)

[stone tiger]

Please stop comparing PoT with the Isle

[gilded palm]

I feel like you're arguing against a point I'm not making lol.

[past dune]

Source?

[sick kraken]

they aren’t in game tho

[hoary sage]

me when i make stuff up

[indigo cave]

The couple weeks they were on legacy

[stone tiger]

Your point doesn't make sense you talk about Strains in PoT which is already possible through customs fan made content

[sick kraken]

hyper carno taking down trike herds and camas would be so far from fun tho. but i don’t doubt it’s the way they go

[hoary sage]

oh when they werent actually implemented and were just a dev thing to goof around?

[oblique geyser]

actually we have no stats and no info on them whatsoever i think

[gilded palm]

...Were you not seeing what I said is a response to someone else comparing the PoT subclasses to Isle's strains, and saying the former is a better version of the latter's concepts?

[indigo cave]

If they aren't server wipes I would be pleasantly surprised ngl, hoping you guys are right

[stone tiger]

The Isle has vision
PoT is a proof of concept and a platform

[gilded palm]

Also, yes, you can play as modded "strain" animals in PoT, you can also play as a dragon or a cube of meat. I do not discuss the game's modded content as indicative of the product the developers are delivering.

[sick kraken]

hyper carno below 6 tons please :)

[gilded palm]

The Isle's end goal is a modding sandbox with a dinosaur survival game attached lol

[stone tiger]

Since its a platform, vanilla content is not different from a modpack

[gilded palm]

In that, I think the two are similar. PoT's "default" mode is a dinosaur-themed MMO

[regal notch]

devs now checking chat "look at them trying to claim what's a default for a dino game now"

[stone tiger]

Official content pack is OCP is what PoT base game is

[gilded palm]

Highly disagree. If I am talking about the content offered out-of-the-box on an official unmodded experience, that is different than opening the discussion to everything modders have added

[stone tiger]

OCP

[gilded palm]

I acknowledge the game has mods that do more than what is offered, but if you insist on calling it OCP, then OCP is what I refer to when I talk about PoT's vision

[trail shard]

The Isle remains superior

[gilded palm]

it's what the developers put in as intended base gameplay, and as such it is what I'll refer to as the Path of Titans game. Like how when I talk about Minecraft's implementation of features, it's not taking into account mods, despite their extensive overhauls

or hell, when The Isle has modding I'm not going to say that The Isle's implementation of diets shouldn't be considered because of mods using it as a base to iterate from

[past dune]

[stone tiger]

Every content pack for PoT is basically visual resource packs and custom animations on top of addon systems based on the OCP mechanics

[regal notch]

this is what actually turns me off of it and makes it too game-y looking

[gilded palm]

So I fail to see why I am not allowed to discuss the mechanics of OCP without a giant disclaimer that mods exist lol

[stone tiger]

If you take the Isle official models
You can create a game like the Isle inside PoT

It won't feel like the Isle bit it will look like it

[regal notch]

oh we're having this talk, like the make X game but in minecraft thing

[gilded palm]

Also Content Pack implies that you have to download the gameplay seperately from the game lol

[stone tiger]

Meanwhile the Isle is not a platform

[past dune]

I love Vintage Story.

[gilded palm]

does PoT not ship with anything to actually play?

[regal notch]

right?

[indigo cave]

What makes a game a platform or not?

[stone tiger]

Because that's what platforms are
Sandbox environments for game creation

[past dune]

Dude it's so unbelievably good.

[regal notch]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes and no, I think we're looking at it too black n white

[indigo cave]

Ngl the only strain I genuinely want is neuro to yap with other species and say nu uh to humans

[gilded palm]

Literally everything you have descripted about PoT sounds exactly like what The Isle is aiming for with its official mod support. The survival gamemode is the default unmodified base experience to see one way the assets can be used, with full support encouraging new additions and alternate game modes (Such as previously mentioned TDM or single-player modes)

[regal notch]

I feel the same way about fields of mistria, aka the "stardew valley clone"

[oblique geyser]

Then all this discussion leads to a single conclusion: Jack Black should be a playable human option in The Isle

[past dune]

I love how they implemented their mod support. It's so convenient, like, joining a server you automatically download all of the hosts mods, their kit is super robust, and they are constantly expanding support for it.

It's insane, like they are practically a mod platform at this point. There is so much customizability. Man, vintage story sure is great.

[stone tiger]

Accessibility and modification freedom on top of an OCP that's the devs add aquatic animals and all mechanics related to that

The Content makers can even make playable fish or any kind of aquatic animal inside the platform as a mod

[gilded palm]

If PoT's "OCP" is not a game then I'd not consider "Survival" in the isle as a game either, since it is just the default configuration and one the devs are vocal about wanting us to change

[stone tiger]

The Isle is not a platform.

[indigo cave]

Imagine being a neuro brachi, laying in a PoI and acting as the peaceful enforcer of chillness

[gilded palm]

Making a playable fish wouldn't be that hard with the mod kit

[regal notch]

bringing out the game dev sheet, GOOGLE DOCKEY

[gilded palm]

You'd just make it lose O2 outside the water and have bad if any land movement speed while giving it O2 back underwater and fast swim speed

[regal notch]

now we just need a movie

[indigo cave]

Btw are different gamemodes ever coming to evrima? Or just survival till the end of time?

[gilded palm]

In its current state, no, but once modding is officially supported I think you'd be facing quite the uphill battle in making a distinction with the points you've been raising

[stone tiger]

In the Isle its hard as you would have to base playable fish to the Deinosuchus

Which would mean you could exist on land for minutes.

[gilded palm]

...No, no you wouldn't have to do that lmfao

[past dune]

But long term they are intent on having unofficials carry the torch as the intended experience, with a large emphasis on modding and customizability to tune the experience to your liking... isn't that just what PoT is doing?

[gilded palm]

Hypothetically lets say we did that. Make the "Deinosuchus" move at 0cms on land, drain O2 when out of water, and have an oxygen timer of 30 seconds

Now you die if you're out of the water for 30 seconds and cannot move on land, how does that mean you're forced to sit on land for minutes

[stone tiger]

I am pretty certain that you would have to.
That's what's under the bonnet stats

[gilded palm]

This ignoring that you'd certainly have a base dinosaur class to modify for the creation of any future playables, or the possibility of attaching a player controller to the existing fish characters

[stone tiger]

But right now you cannot modify the stats in the Isle unless you do and you get banned for hacking

[indigo cave]

Can we please talk about water drain on deino? Why does it completely dry off in 10 minutes when it should be able to bask for hours on end with no issue

[past dune]

Nah the devs are fine with unofficial modding.

[stone tiger]

The problem comes that currently only resource pack like mods would be available to the Isle.

[gilded palm]

Yes, because "modding" on an official server means you're running a different client, and are gonna get banned for it. You can do basically whatever on unofficials

[past dune]

If they weren't...
Hoo boy, I'd be in trouble.

[gilded palm]

Have you been deliberately ignoring that each time I bring up modding, it is in the future tense of "When we have the mod kit?"

[stone tiger]

I was talking about addon playables

[gilded palm]

Right now, as I said, you are limited. This is not the plan forever. Right now you can make comparisons to PoT prior to modding

[past dune]

I mean... theoretically...

[indigo cave]

Could mods make the fish, deer and snails playable?

[sick kraken]

there’s going to be playable dragons in certain within like 6 years with modding

[stone tiger]

When we get a Mod kit and addon compatability for unofficial servers then the Isle can be a platform like game like PoT

[gilded palm]

If the product was always a platform and not a game, then it clearly must be a platform off the future options for supported modding and not the limited stuff you could do prior

[past dune]

There wouldn't be anything stopping you from setting up your own playable, but you would need the client to download the mod too.

[stone tiger]

But I don't see that

[sick kraken]

they want it to be like gmod they said

[gilded palm]

Given that, I don't think there's a point to saying that one is clearly a platform and the other clearly a game when both are going to be in the same position

[stone tiger]

I don't think the Isle ever wants to be a platform

[sick kraken]

they said gmod man…

[gilded palm]

We have seen, time and again, they are planning for modding in the future. It's to the point where even the level assets are built for modular modding in the future

[stone tiger]

Only thing they would allow is modifying visuals

[gilded palm]

That is objectively not true lmfao

[past dune]

Sure they do.
Everything they've said directly indicates that...

Also could you define platform? Because I think we gotta clarify that definition.

[sick kraken]

#isle-discussion message

[sick kraken]

@stone tiger

[gilded palm]

We know they support modifying mechanics, as it's the go-to for a "You don't like how we did it? Do it differently with your modded version" when someone doesn't like the direction of a mechanic

[stone tiger]

They would not let you add entirely custom playables with custom model custom animations custom code custom features custom stats

Like stuff a Playable fish would require

[slate trellis]

🥱

[past dune]

But... they do.

[gilded palm]

Why not? They have said time and again that is something they're more than happy with you doing

[stone tiger]

[gilded palm]

Hell, we literally had it for the last version of The Isle's modding

[stone tiger]

That's like giving the game to the community

[gilded palm]

why would they not do it again, given that so much of the game under the hood seems built for easy modding

[past dune]

Again, technically there isn't anything stopping you from making a playable species mod, hosting a server, and then requiring your players to download a client mod to have it.

Literally nothing stopping you, and the devs are fine with it.

[sick kraken]

so r u gonna acmowledge that they said it will be to the extend of gmod

[oblique geyser]

[gilded palm]

Literally yes, that has been Dondi's end goal for years. Get a "Here's one way you could do it" survival game out the door with assets to use as you want, and modding to do the rest

[stone tiger]

Suddenly we would get so much custom content

[gilded palm]

That is the plan, yes

[past dune]

It being on UE5 already swings the door wide open.

[stone tiger]

That would ensure the survival of the game on custom content even if the development is disconnected

[oblique geyser]

Whoever makes a microraptor mod, will have my thanks

[gilded palm]

The goal of the game is, as mentioned, just to provide the players with a template to make their own games out of

[sick kraken]

n e way the isle should be pretty awesome once modding is supported. entire new games

[past dune]

Behold.
The Isle as a modding platform.

[gilded palm]

I, for one, will be modding in my Iguanodon custom model as a new playable

[sick kraken]

someone will make the isle with irl animals surely. can’t wait for that

[past dune]

I, for one... have no idea what I'd do.

[sick kraken]

the isle but you play as bacteria

[past dune]

I hate to break it to you but Dinosaurs are real animals.

[gilded palm]

I still think using The Isle as a mechanical testbed for your project makes sense

[sick kraken]

you got me but you also know what i mean

[past dune]

Alreadt working on it, at least to a certain extent right now.

[gilded palm]

You'd be able to go straight to mechanical iteration without any need of assets

[oblique geyser]

Cenozoic The isle
imagine that

[lost citrus]

wasn't there a game like that for african mammals?

[gilded palm]

I still need to rig my Iguanodon with proper animation controls, blech

[sick kraken]

i should say a good game lol

[arctic oak]

Cambrian isle everyone is shrimp

[grizzled egret]

the isle but with the bugs in my basement

[past dune]

The Isle is a fairly ideal testbed, especially on an unofficial where I can issue rules to manipulate behavior in certain ways.

If I can get my foot in the door as the first modded Isle server, getting players probably wouldn't be too hard.

Which is... kinda the goal rn
Even with unofficial modding as limited as it is, adjusting the existing mechanics to achieve the illusion of what I'd aim for, is very possible.

[lost citrus]

ordovician isle, everyone is squid

[sick kraken]

bug the isle would be cool but i wouldent play. i hate. bugs

i think bacteria the isle is probably best. and you can keep the humans too

[oblique geyser]

carboniferous isle

[sick kraken]

why can’t i play as bacteria rn? prob easy to implement

[past dune]

Maybe you already are...
#isle-lore-theories

[arctic oak]

Pecambrian isle, everyone is

[slate trellis]

cotylornychus

i wanna be the shape and maneuverability of a keg

[gilded palm]

Wasn't aware modding was that far along rn, but then again, I really don't look at stuff much outside my immediate bubble of renders/animation

[arctic oak]

Play dilo

[gilded palm]

alas, I must leave now, as I am about to fall asleep on my keyboard

[slate trellis]

not the shape. please read

[arctic oak]

It's like a keg but rolling down a hill so it's fast

It's a skinny keg

[slate trellis]

not what i want it needs to be barrel shaped

[past dune]

The possibilities are fairly robust now, but nobody has any motivation to do anything beyond things like... doubling AI spawns.

[slate trellis]

...robust you say?

[past dune]

Ain't nobody trying to rework mechanics right now lol

[arctic oak]

Play trike but lock ur growth at 28%

[slate trellis]

now this is an answer. thank you so much

[arctic oak]

Playable keg, just like in real life it's also filled with yummy treats

[slate trellis]

i can fulfill my lifelong dream of being an oil barrel

[slow apex]

Quick question if someone is here

[slate trellis]

yeah whats up

this question isnt very quick

[real pendant]

NO DON’T DO THAT YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR!!!

[slow apex]

There are 3 versions of the isle 1. DEFAULT public Version, 2. Spiro, 3. Evrima

Which of these is it

[arctic oak]

Spiro is a version? I thought it was just legacy and evrima

Evrima is the actual game that is updated and worked on

[vital onyx]

evrima

[slow apex]

Theres also hordetesting, which of these 4 are you supposed to click on?

[arctic oak]

Evrima

[slow apex]

The one that says evrima public branch?

[real pendant]

Yes

[arctic oak]

Yes

[vital onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194686206747873300/1467004586320461834/feralanimal.gif

[slow apex]

Ok, thanks

[arctic oak]

Ptera rework my beloved

[real pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1467575169919881260/caption.gif

[arctic oak]

Cannot wait for devlog this month

[slow apex]

Appreciate it y'all

[sharp pond]

destroy the dev blog 😈

[arctic oak]

Destroy blockimaniac

[sharp pond]

😱

[real pendant]

Say whaaaaa

[late mist]

Is Phase 3 self-awareness

[real pendant]

Phase 3 is very aware of it’s own existence

[late mist]

Do we have confirmation or is it speculation

[real pendant]

No it’s true, trust me bro

[late mist]

How can I

[arctic oak]

Don't trust him

[oblique geyser]

don't trust blocko

[arctic oak]

Phase three is about as self-aware as a koala

[regal notch]

so what's our bets on what the devblog is gonna bring up

[halcyon dove]

oh damn youre right blobdev is tomorrow huh

[regal notch]

ye

[halcyon dove]

quetz from kissen, probably. hopefully some kentro stuff

[regal notch]

I'm praying for a hordetest

[halcyon dove]

0 chance we get devblob and HT on the same day, that's a lot of stuff for one day

[naive nexus]

I need Bary…the world needs it…

[regal notch]

maybe not same day but following the week

[halcyon dove]

hopefully, i really want to try out kentro

[regal notch]

r e a l

[subtle sleet]

🙌

[naive nexus]

Bary lowk might be my main until Alberto and/or Spino pops up

[naive nexus]

Baryonyx ☝️

[subtle sleet]

My friends talk trash about Bary, but little do they know its gonna be the best playable added by far.

[naive nexus]

They know not the secret of the Bary…

[regal notch]

Genuinely, I had so much doubt the other day until I watched the video discussing everything kissen's talked about and I actually can see how it plays.. it's going to be immaculate

[halcyon dove]

it will certainly be the safest besides ptera and beipi

[regal notch]

and the wader mutation is finally going to see use

[naive nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-swimming-execution-baryonyx-dinosaur-swim-gif-25252148

[subtle sleet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1214927098792124456/1WyP.gif

I'm so excited about this ''stance'' it might be getting.

[regal notch]

if it's like the concept art (which it's been discussed to be like it), it's going to be great. My hope is the swipe while in the stance is potentially a knockback while bary's a lil more immobilized, allowing it to prevent charges/rushes as opposed to just trading damage outright

[subtle sleet]

Ooo that'd be cool.

[wide dock]

RAWRRRRRRR BARRY RAWRRRRRRRRR

[subtle sleet]

Knock back with a bleed sounds dope.

[naive nexus]

Baryonyx grabbing a charging Carno and piledriving it into the dirt

[regal notch]

suplex that mf'er

[wide dock]

Tell your friend he better SHUT THE F UP

[regal notch]

it almost sounds like it'll just be a "alt attack" stance so to speak

[subtle sleet]

I'mma make Bary the best tracker ever, gonna slash the heck out of something and just track it down.

[wide dock]

Barry defence stance would be sick, like a grizzly bear, it stand up and wides its arms

[subtle sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1273031782593204344.webp?size=44&animated=true

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/gwent-gwent-card-skellige-raging-bear-gif-13783745

[regal notch]

that's exactly the intention I'm gathering

[naive nexus]

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a baby version of Spino’s wrestling technique

[subtle sleet]

Dont worry I gave em a ear full, never talk smack about bary.

[regal notch]

what I REALLY wanna know is how it's water kit will perform

[wide dock]

We have seen em run on river banks

[regal notch]

yeah but actually swimming in the water, how will it move and fight deino off

[wide dock]

Maybe like a hippo? Where ut just floats instead of swimming

[wide dock]

Probably kill deinos till the deino hits 70% deinos gains weight way to Slow and barry will get lrge fast

[naive nexus]

Tbh I see it as

Bary is faster on land, maybe slower in water so it has to take to the banks to escape or faster in water but cannot fight Deinosuchus

Sucho can go blow-for-blow with Deinosuchus

Spino turns Deinosuchus into a hot dog dinner

[regal notch]

there's been talk about them having somewhat equal footing depending on growth, deino's biteforce is still a big thing to me

https://youtu.be/3KWUwr3JEsE?si=E7uUFF-qGgGIX0Ru

[wide dock]

I mean

Devs did say barry wont be ez kill for deinos

[regal notch]

here's all the things we know about it, or at least can speculate about it

[wide dock]

Ye exactly, but barry would have HUGE weight curve gain on deino

[naive nexus]

Oh yea I know but idk if that was said to be because it can fight back or because it can just escape

[regal notch]

honestly, weight even that big a deal since it won't be able to drown bary

[wide dock]

So barry would fight juvi-sub deino bus as soon as deino hits 3tons barry would have to stick to the banks and close to land

[naive nexus]

Bary’s got some fat legs compared to Deinosuchus so I wouldn’t be surprised if “not being an easy kill” is just…Bary needs to be ambushed otherwise you’re not catching it

[wide dock]

Ye but 6tond and 400 bight force is sick on deino

[regal notch]

oh 100%

[wide dock]

Kissen told me PERSONALLY barry would be slower in water i asked the other day

[regal notch]

Bary at full growth vs a deino full growth, hands down deino is winning that or allowing bary to exist lol

[naive nexus]

Can I see it…

[regal notch]

source?

[wide dock]

Exactly or barry hits land

[wide dock]

I asked, she told me in discord said barry will probably be slower than deino but you can hit land to escape them

[naive nexus]

Like in this discord or?

[regal notch]

can you quote it tho, or show where?

[hasty patrol]

Yes I think that makes sense

[wide dock]

Yessir someone even made a video about my question

[wide dock]

Ye let me find it gimme 2 minutes

[naive nexus]

Closest I can find

Tho admittedly it’s not your question answered but it’s still smth cool

[wide dock]

@hasty patrol she said probably not but tbh it wont make sense if barry was faster so im guessing its a solid no

[naive nexus]

Oh interesting

It’s a tentative answer but one nonetheless

[hasty patrol]

I saw exactly this video haha

[wide dock]

Hahaha ye im famous

[wide dock]

It is, but tbh deino will be the FASTEST thing in water since its body is designed for waters

[torpid osprey]

Ooo I saw this video too (he saw my question as well)

[regal notch]

ah the guy that calls their audience F nuggets

[wide dock]

Anyhow have a good one chat time for college time to lesrn how to make games😎💀😂 cya all later

[wide dock]

Yes😂😂

[regal notch]

the main thing isn't going to be speed though, it'll be maneuverability. Deino's definitely a fast swimming in a straight line but bary's got the moves and mobility I don't doubt

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dance-happy-dance-baryonyx-gif-20443046

[hasty patrol]

Yea this, maybe in 10 years when we get more crocos or full aquatics then something will be faster than deino

[regal notch]

if it can dip/dive faster then it's gonna be like beipi where deino has trouble keeping up unless it keeps a perpendicular view to it

[trail shard]

No

[regal notch]

I love this skin so much, he's just a fat watermelon

[cinder cave]

I don’t think we’re getting either of those

[hasty patrol]

Maybe with mods then?

[cinder cave]

I’m sure mods will do wonderful things for this game

[hasty patrol]

I hope so

[cinder cave]

Yutyrannus reskin for Allo my beloved

[regal notch]

ya know what'd be peak, getting migration back in north planes and swamp again for bary's release

[trail shard]

Plains* 🤓

[regal notch]

n o

https://giphy.com/gifs/funny-airplane-plane-noPodzKTnZvfW

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/beaker-muppet-mimi-gif-15441852477044164355

[trail shard]

What in tarnation ..

[real pendant]

What the H E double hockey sticks?!

[trail shard]

Is that you?

[blissful shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-mods-fossilize-this-user-mods-gif-14547219816455503839

[trail shard]

Minmi is our god

[wide dock]

Ye 2 years ago

[blissful shoal]

yay minmi

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/minmi-dbwc-dinosaurs-battle-world-championship-pong1977-dinosaur-gif-15337866610015099594

[misty pivot]

yay minmi

[trail shard]

Oh my ..

[wide dock]

I look better now i swear☹️

[trail shard]

I trust you

[spiral edge]

Hey guys, question for any experienced players, what's the best rex killer?
Trike? Steggo? Allo? Big pack of omnis?

[regal notch]

another rex

[lucid urchin]

Experienced Stegos and Trikes.

[stoic mica]

Trike and Stego have the best chances of all of them.

The Allo is one hit for the Rex. But if you manage to get the Rex below 25% Stam, Health or Bleed two Allos can actually pin him. Omnis could also perform well with their agility. But for that you need skill

[spiral edge]

I see I see, I feel like steggo has an easier time, since trike has to always face the rex and his turn rate is abysmal, especially after a leg break

[stoic mica]

Yeah if you manage to hit the Rex twice in the head with your tail he has to play more passive, otherwise he bleeds out

[neon scaffold]

Stego but you have to know what ur doing. If not ur getting rolled

[neon scaffold]

The stego can just run it down and make it bleed, it has to play extra aggressive to finish the fight asap so it can sit safely

[still umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/tackle-dj-khaled-released-youtube-originals-alligator-gif-21739505

[dense kestrel]

most rex players are silly and will prob walk into ur tail

[spiral edge]

If the rex plays aggressive run away, if it plays passive run after it, it will run either way i guess

But thanks everyone for your input

[stone tiger]

L

[stone tiger]

Then I hope there will be lord friendly mods

[wraith hound]

the penglin

[steel scaffold]

The allosaurus

[tawdry lava]

does this game has dlss?

[vapid pumice]

i managed to get a trike spawn on petit pieds lord have mercy on me

[cunning sinew]

does this game will ever get updated?

[coarse nimbus]

yeah it does

[clear iron]

Day 3 of asking dondi to make me official server admin

[gritty hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[clear iron]

Stego

[clear iron]

[gritty hamlet]

Nah trike is rn good trike players are always beating good Rex players

Stego is so ez to counter if ur playing Rex

[clear iron]

Sure bud

[gritty hamlet]

1v1

[clear iron]

Wait like 6 hours then i can

[gritty hamlet]

Ok msg me whenever

[vapid pumice]

i havent grown a trike since like, the beginning of trike HT

anyone got any tips cause lord have mercy i am going to struggle

[olive bay]

Let's summon the Hordetest

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

[gritty hamlet]

Learn how to use spar mode first and how to switch to spar and normal fast go on a deathmatch server

Never spam thrash in the open

[olive bay]

He's lying, do it 😈

[grizzled knoll]

Unless you got others to play with you, don't

[gritty hamlet]

Trike is fun solo

[clear iron]

Sanc eat till puke heal eat More afk prime tasks afk More eat drink kill rexes

[grizzled knoll]

Sure if your favorite activity is dying to rexes

[real pendant]

Wait is there actually a hordetest coming soon or is this just The Isle playerbase going through Psychosis

[stoic mica]

Nah, he'd win

[olive bay]

Both

[real pendant]

Damn

[gritty hamlet]

Unless ur buns Rex are so ez to kill after learning not to use thrash just watch the ninjayas video he’s beating good Rexes

[real pendant]

Yeah thrash is a terrible move

[clear iron]

HT In 2 month pls

[grizzled knoll]

Me when the good rex charges straight towards him and either gets bugged or waits for him to impale him

[gritty hamlet]

Running flip + normal attack is the best trike combo you can do 5k+ dmg in 5-8 seconds

[clear iron]

Esp users

[gritty hamlet]

Just use running flip if a Rex is charging u head on you always get the stun first and a little bit of dmg

[real pendant]

Yeah I can kinda get a sense for trike combat, but thrash just makes it so hard to play

[neon elk]

ok

[vapid pumice]

im playing solo on petit pieds :)

[real pendant]

Cause I get stressed when I get into fights so I constantly spam left click and stuff

[gritty hamlet]

Only use thrash if they get knocked down and use it on the head it does like 10kdmg

[real pendant]

Bad habit

[clear iron]

🙏

[grizzled knoll]

I meaan, better than anywhere else but you still gotta fear the ocassional (and kinda common) pair of prime rexes

[real pendant]

That’s insane damage

[misty pivot]

two

[bronze rivet]

Wen bary im homeless

[silk iron]

dont stay in sanc til it kicks u out, puke and then fill up and immediately book it to the nearest patrol zone

[clear iron]

Camp rocks if ur not confident In ur pvp skills (against rexes)

[gritty hamlet]

It does
3k if it’s not knocked 9k if prey is knocked and if u get a headshot it does 13500damage 🥀

[real pendant]

Thats prime rex health right?

[gritty hamlet]

More than that but it’s hard to knock over a Rex in spar

[clear iron]

Doesnt knocked down only double the dmg?

[grizzled knoll]

Iirc deinos always take the thrash double damage no?

[gritty hamlet]

Yh what I meant normal dmg is 3k

[clear iron]

Yeah so knocked down should be 6k

[gritty hamlet]

It does 9k

[real pendant]

It would be cool if the rex was low stam it could be easier to knock down in spar

[gritty hamlet]

4500 +4500

[gritty hamlet]

All Rex mains will cry

[clear iron]

Was it 3k for each thrash hit Or combined

[gritty hamlet]

Combined it might’ve have been buffed ages ago

[real pendant]

Oh no, how tragic, it’s not like they cry every day lol

[gritty hamlet]

4500 frac dmg on crush 🥀

[fleet yacht]

why is pinslop considered a mechanic

[grizzled knoll]

I don't understand how they're playing the strongest dinosaur that is currently game breaking and ruining balance and they STILL complain about stegos and trikes 😭

[silk iron]

why cant i one tap herbis as rex i am king as rex

[real pendant]

They want the game to become t rex simulator

[gritty hamlet]

Stego is quite overtuned rn I do get but most rex mains aren’t good

[clear iron]

"How did i DIE to a stego when i face tanked" rex said once

[real pendant]

I like stego being powerful tbh

[grizzled knoll]

Try playing dibble right now, a prime rex will just run you down at eat you at any time of the day they are literally extinct because of that

[stoic mica]

"Oh no I attack the largest Herbivore in the game and I died. Who could have known that giant spikes on the face/tail would deal so much damage"

[clear iron]

It has a big Weakness tho

[silk iron]

dibble is not extinct ive slaughtered rexes on dibble with big herds

[real pendant]

Yeah true

[grizzled knoll]

Sub rexes are manageable, prime rexes WILL kill you and you CANNOT do anything about it lets not kid ourselves

[clear iron]

Which is good steg is very powerful but it can be avoided

[stoic mica]

Yeah before the update came out I used to main Dibbles. Having Allos as opponents is very interesting. But Rexes just ruin the fun. No option to run away or to fight back :c

[stoic mica]

Damn you absolute menace 🔥

[real pendant]

Yeah dibble needs some love

[stone tiger]

Juvenile Allo pounced on Stego tail.
She was a noob now she is holding for dear life

[clear iron]

Less of a rex More of elder system problem

[vapid pumice]

i managed to escape a rex the few times i ran into one as diablo, but then again i was prime + in the middle of a forest so conditions were favorable for me rather than the rex

[silk iron]

i havent really experienced being chased down by a prime rex on dibble due to never seeing them but a group of dibbles can take down like 60% rexes

[grizzled knoll]

It still is kind of a rex problem, the rest of the elders arent as problematic except maaaaybe carno?

[real pendant]

Absolutely awesome art, also funny

[clear iron]

Teno cera match up, allo

[real pendant]

Rex shouldn’t get faster as it elders tbh

[stone tiger]

Really detailed if the allo would be just a little bigger the Spikes would impaled her

[grizzled knoll]

Teno cera matchup is how it is because they done teno dirty, it only recieves a 200 kg buff as a prime, it needs a buff

[stoic mica]

Absolutely

[clear iron]

Problem is that we have rebalance the whole game cause elders get More speed

[real pendant]

Cerato needs teno burgers

[grizzled knoll]

All they gotta do is remove all prime speed bonuses and we're game, not that hard

[stone tiger]

That's a good gory art idea

[grizzled knoll]

And to add to this, prime allo isnt anymore problematic than an adult allo is, allo has other problems that dont directly correlate to the elder system

[real pendant]

Elders shouldn’t get more speed tbh, they should really just be happy with the weight and damage increase

[clear iron]

Yeah they should do that but we all know they wont

[stoic mica]

Btw I am not much of a Cera Player myself: How much does a Cera weight at full prime?

[real pendant]

1900 kg

[stone tiger]

Like imagine a Teno crying and dying in his own blood pinned by a Cerato who eats his insides while cutely holding one of Teno's organ like a hamburger

[stoic mica]

Ah like the Carno my beloved

[clear iron]

Prime allo gains like 1 ton it can pin Adult ceras

[stone tiger]

Disembowelment of a Tenonto

[grizzled knoll]

Carnos are 1800, ceras are 1950 ackshually 🤓

[real pendant]

Cerato?! Pin?! OH YES BABY THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR BABY

[grizzled knoll]

They also get slowed down from 39 to 37 km/h, they wont catch an adult cera

[stoic mica]

Still same weight class🤓☝️

[stone tiger]

I think Cerato could get a pin

[clear iron]

Allos are quiet

[real pendant]

It would be so awesome

It would be so cool

[clear iron]

No no no you go back In the Sanc now

[grizzled knoll]

Naah man cant blame it on that cmon

[neon elk]

i blame

[real pendant]

Dondi watching this conversation: WRITE THAT DOWN

[neon elk]

do you think dondi will be watching this conversation

[clear iron]

Allo literally turns into an Alberto After adult

[real pendant]

He always watches

[stone tiger]

Who the Hell are ye?

[grizzled knoll]

DONDIIIII NERF TYRANNOSAURUS REX, AND MY LIFE... IS YOURS

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/baelor-targaryen-baelor-breakspear-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-hedge-knight-dunk-and-egg-gif-17610397036364587621

[stone tiger]

".-."
"--."
"-."
"-."
"---"
".-"

Oh this bastard

[clear iron]

Hehe

[stone tiger]

Who has morse code name

[real pendant]

Wait

[neon elk]

...

[clear iron]

[real pendant]

[stone tiger]

". -" = A
". - -" = W
". - ." = R
"- ." = N
" - - -" = O
". -"= A

AWRNOA

Cool name

? = Awrnoa

[clear iron]

Exposed

[real pendant]

Dondi is this lore?

[neon elk]

no

[stone tiger]

Idk its just a nickname

[clear iron]

Awrnoa is a deep lore reference only dondi knows what it means and that means I AM DON (joking so i wont get banned)

[stone tiger]

How are you Awrnoa?

[sage umbra]

did they nerf fish spawnrate?

[real pendant]

DONDI?!

[vapid pumice]

lettuce begin

[clear iron]

Gud yu?

[spring fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067374098784714754/1474383291875328132/200efdsdv.gif

[lofty cosmos]

Im gonna build a super hypsi and nest an army

[spring fern]

oh yeah

[neon elk]

ok

[real pendant]

Good luck, I would join you if I had my monitor

Guys, let’s go to China

[spring fern]

maybe later

[sage umbra]

did they nerf fish spawnrate in the latest upd?

[clear iron]

Hey Don Allow us to stack mutations infinitely

[real pendant]

Ark player spotted

[spring fern]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-mods-fossilize-this-user-mods-gif-14547219816455503839

[flint hearth]

ark?

[clear iron]

Prolly just bugged rn (no)

[real pendant]

The other dinosaur survival game but instead of playing as the dinosaurs, you play as a stinky human

[flint hearth]

i know ark too well

[clear iron]

Eoe?

[flint hearth]

i have around 40k hours on it

[real pendant]

Eoe has both CHECKMATE

[clear iron]

Aaaaa!

[real pendant]

[clear iron]

I accept defeat youve bested me

[sage umbra]

its just that elite ish ant spawning whee they use too

[clear iron]

Also 40k is crazy

Bro played 4.5 years of ark

[real pendant]

Thats 4 and a half years of nothing but Ark

Like you had your system running Ark for 4 and a half YEARS?!

[clear iron]

You know ark better than ur home

[real pendant]

That’s terrifying

[clear iron]

Everyone has hobbies i guess

I have 400h on ark i though that was a lot

[stoic mica]

Ark came out in 2017. So half of the time it's out he was playing it in total time

[real pendant]

Omg that’s CRAZY

[clear iron]

Bro living double life

1 Side job family other ARKKKK

[wind beacon]

2017 was the full release tbf.
including EA is was 2015

[vapid pumice]

got attacked by a juvie allo

camped a sanc tree, ran into water, killed him in water. my bleed is at like 30%

[stoic mica]

And you have to consider work time, time with friends and sleeping time. So I guess he just had it running even when he wasn't on the PC. Otherwise it would be impossible

[clear iron]

Maybe he dont sleep

[vapid pumice]

didnt they release DLC before full release

[wind beacon]

i think so

[vapid pumice]

to be fair it was a pretty good DLC in my opinion but damn

[clear iron]

Need to get money somehow am i right

[vapid pumice]

would've been better if it had an ascension scene from the beginning though

[stoic mica]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[clear iron]

Dont jumpscare me like that i almost died irl

[real pendant]

Job applications don’t work for me

[neon elk]

ok

[vapid pumice]

idk ark always had really decent DLC i think

i thought extinction was a bit too far but i think it was just something that i dont prefer lol

and now ark ascended is happening and all that hoopla

[clear iron]

Cant even run ascended wasnt worth it

[stoic mica]

Why not?😅

[pseudo socket]

i just got killed by a invisible dino

[clear iron]

Nvm

[real pendant]

No one accepts me so I’m forever unemployed 💔

[clear iron]

Isle moment

[stoic mica]

If you want I can help you with your Job Application/Curriculum Vita if you like to. I always have to do it for friends and family with a pretty good successrate. But you have to translate it into your native tongue of course

[clear iron]

You got only 3 option In life
Unemployed
Employed
ARKKK

[stoic mica]

The first and the last one are dependant on each other

[real pendant]

Sure, friend me and we can do it another time, its late for me

[neon elk]

yay

[stoic mica]

Done!

[clear iron]

Nah ark players are a different breed

[wraith hound]

i don't know if thats worth a yay my friend

[neon elk]

oh ok

[wraith hound]

i, oh..

[wispy shore]

Devblog is in 2 days

[wraith hound]

you promise ?

[wispy shore]

No I'm Bernd das Brot

[wraith hound]

oh i see, me thinks

[wispy shore]

Me thinks deblorg in 47 hours and 35 minutes and 25 seconds

[wraith hound]

oh..

[silk iron]

dev bog

[clear iron]

Dev pog

[wraith hound]

dev hog ?

[muted crypt]

@tame temple @cinder cave @sharp pond @neon elk @past dune made it for u guys, enjoy all the love i put into

[clear iron]

&{;[&{[;&{;[

[weary cosmos]

lol.

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-sigma-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-i-dont-have-a-gif-for-this-gif-1885171871624852210

[muted crypt]

[neon elk]

thank you!!!

[clear iron]

Its spreading

[green osprey]

are dilo clones still not working>

[topaz gull]

Oh

[misty pivot]

hi

[neon elk]

no

[green osprey]

they arent bugged?

[clear iron]

Any dev log predictions

[stone tiger]

Remember her?

Now she has a background

[vital onyx]

honestly i wouldnt be surprised if we got a horsetest/austroraptor with the devblog, it wouldnt be the first time

[stone tiger]

Hopefully something about Bary or Spino

[clear iron]

Horsetest

[stone tiger]

Autocorrect has to be drunk

[wraith hound]

at the end of the month me thinks

[stone tiger]

TenoTest

[clear iron]

They havent dropped balance patches yet so i dont think we getting any dinos

[wraith hound]

yay

[clear iron]

Yay

[wraith hound]

@neon elk can you release the HT when devblog please ?

[neon elk]

no

[clear iron]

[pliant birch]

whatsup

[wraith hound]

the ceiling

[clear iron]

The floor

[pliant birch]

IM NO LONGER BANNED

discord tos killed me

[urban comet]

Not too late to change that

[clear iron]

Sup turkish

[pliant birch]

im pink again

[wind beacon]

kick this guy

[clear iron]

I agree with the 🐟

[pliant birch]

worst 16 hours of my life

[west plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432025103352332432/1463386195911381043/attachment.gif

[clear iron]

Oh no ive been catfished

[vapid pumice]

i think you should be banned for this

[neon elk]

ok

[vapid pumice]

i think you should be banned for supporting it

[wraith hound]

soon i'll be not pink anymore and that will stay so for a while

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-peter-parker-sandman-spiderman3-i-forgive-you-gif-23309359

[muted crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/idi-naxui-gif-26345237

[wraith hound]

hi im new and heard the devblog is soon, what is a devblog ?

[clear iron]

Its a new playable trust

Species name devlogius regilius
It has 20 bite force
Speed 9 km/h
And Special ability is ragebait

[neon elk]

hi

[silk iron]

oh

[vapid pumice]

WHAT IS THIS POOP DIET

this is POOP FROM A BUTT diet I DONT LIKE TRIKE

im CLUNKY i RUN weird i look like a PITBULL oh its joever...

[neon elk]

but

[clear iron]

Major isle moment

[muted crypt]

PLEASE BUFF PTERA STAM REGEN.

[vapid pumice]

yes im having an isle moment ill recover when i find a diet plant (i wont) (im so far from any grasslands) (help) (PZ? DOESNT EXIST HAHAHAHAHA)

[clear iron]

Uh good luck

[broken agate]

stego and trike both pmo cause the diets suck 💔

i want to enjoy big fat herbivores without having dookie diet stuff

[vapid pumice]

miles away from grassland btw im so screwed sista (cant nest on petits)

[clear iron]

Camaa

[wraith hound]

please fix the game

[stone tiger]

Eat grass

[vapid pumice]

that does not fix the problem

[silk iron]

grass is NOT diet 😠

[stone tiger]

It fixes mine

[vapid pumice]

grass is also poop diet

[stone tiger]

Sorry Trike player

What is your growth stage?

[vapid pumice]

almost sub

[stone tiger]

Delightful

[vapid pumice]

so i'm in that very large growth range where if a large rex sees me i die so im always on edge

[stone tiger]

[vapid pumice]

im like 3 tons idk if i qualify as juvie anymore lol

i have male colors coming in so like

like beginning of sub-ish

[clear iron]

Haha enjoy next 2h

[stone tiger]

You are still a calf

[stone tiger]

Edgy teen bull

[vapid pumice]

thanks

[wraith hound]

oh nice dinner

[vapid pumice]

no stop it no

[stone tiger]

You also love calf?

[clear iron]

Ur not gonna gain Weight for next 2h

[wraith hound]

mhm

[stone tiger]

Calf Liver and Onions

[vapid pumice]

pls

[pliant birch]

tuff?

[clear iron]

Trike growth

Fast to 3 tons
Slow till almost Adult
Fast to 9.5 tons

[silk iron]

TUFF

[clear iron]

Ofc you get little Weight here and there but thats about it

[vital onyx]

this but a herrerasaurus is dropkicking it mid air

[wraith hound]

grow even bigger so i have a great meal later, yeah ?

[spiral edge]

How big will bary be? Same as carno/cera? Bigger? Smaller?

[clear iron]

1300-1700 kg

[past dune]

https://tenor.com/view/end-of-evangelion-shinji-wings-wind-storm-gif-27309404

[vital onyx]

this isnt confirmed by the way

[clear iron]

Even if smth is confirmed it might not Come out that way

[pliant birch]

what if I make a herra drag a dryo up a tree

[vapid pumice]

stop it

[vital onyx]

if you do this make sure to put another herrera in a nearby tree like this

[vapid pumice]

trike is A GREAT playable......

[vital onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-tree-upside-down-neck-waiting-gif-3579305

[clear iron]

Cope

[silk iron]

ignore everyone else boss they're all rex players

[clear iron]

Dont insult me like that i dont touch the rex

[eager topaz]

tuff af

[clear iron]

Yo don noway when is HT

Ghost doing Ghost things

[vapid pumice]

hnnhhhjhhnnmmmm

im going to die to the first rex i see

its ok ill win

[silk iron]

if ur in spar hold lmb

[muted crypt]

doing god's work all by myself

[clear iron]

Rick saving us

[muted crypt]

( I also have a big rex but I will kill my own)

[clear iron]

Rick betrayed us

[spiral edge]

aight at least its not smaller by much

[vital onyx]

lmao

[clear iron]

Prime is prolly over 2 tons its very beefy

[vital onyx]

keep in mind that weight/health can be changed at any point

its not confirmed for bary to be in that range

[spiral edge]

aight fr fr

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout-new-vegas-intro-video-game-speech-gif-8179674230722638513

[clear iron]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-big-eyes-shocked-edit-gif-27499196

[wraith hound]

aw man its been such a long time since i played the isle

i wonder if this old dog still got it in him

[clear iron]

[wraith hound]

truth is, the game was rigged from the start

[silk iron]

thought i was the only deino in the lake im in and a whole fg just launches out at the allo i was teasing

[proud dome]

Anyone know how to knock down the damn brazil nuts from the trees?? Every time i see γ up there and can never reach it

[wraith hound]

ever heard the saying, there's always something bigger ?

[silk iron]

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-punching-shut-up-smack-socked-gif-27546625

[silk iron]

he just took 8 bites to kill another fresh spawn im in tears

[wraith hound]

and you'll be next

[cobalt flare]

Hi, quick question. I'm currently playing a lot of Stego, but I keep having this problem where I suddenly lose my sense of smell, eating, and drinking. I have to log out every time, but my friends who play with don't have this problem at all. It's really annoying when it happens to me every five minutes. Does anyone have any tips?

[silk iron]

nah he doesnt see me

[void marlin]

Looks edible enough

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/behind-you-spy-team-fortress2-gif-11451597

[wraith hound]

wait a bloody minute, something ain't right here

CATS AIN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE THUMBS

[grand grotto]

Mewgenics

[misty pivot]

doc

[wraith hound]

are you a doc, xenon ?

[grand grotto]

I'm xenon

[misty pivot]

im not

[wraith hound]

but you could be, right ?

[grand grotto]

Ur xenon not not

[untold jacinth]

When's the next update?

[misty pivot]

im a diploma student sorry

[trail shard]

At the time it releases

[silk iron]

hwat is he doing with his hands

[wraith hound]

rubbing them like a fly

[clear iron]

You dont wana know

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dance-happy-dance-baryonyx-gif-20443046

Im actually surprised i haven been banned/muted yet for spamming this gif

[real pendant]

Guys, I’m really smart! I know E=Mc^2

[wraith hound]

i only know that 1+1 is 11

[misty pivot]

i dont think

[trail shard]

Stop

[stoic mica]

67

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-caine-pointing-at-you-who-knows-it-might-be-you-gif-1587448691631525740

[blazing jolt]

Everything is so quiet, maybe TOO quiet

[stoic mica]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-chorando-dbz-gif-17835487602772251334

[clear iron]

[wraith hound]

i think people are waiting on that devblorg thing

[blazing jolt]

Makes sense

[wraith hound]

but say, mr levyathan sir, whats this devblorg ?

[wide dock]

i CANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[clear iron]

No updates for 1 month game is officially dead

[wraith hound]

my apolocheese

[clear iron]

Apollocheese

[whole path]

Is there any reset server?

[wide dock]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-pin-down-cookie-addict-galletas-gif-11235441

[silk iron]

dooeess osteo reduce fractures from fall damage too

[spare tundra]

The question is does Osteo actually work at all

[vital onyx]

donkey kong background

[halcyon locust]

pretty sure it does cus i always pick that mutation when trying to jump off a cliff for a better spawn so i just take fall damage without fractures

and its always worked for me

[slow orchid]

pls devs pls

[charred oriole]

Game dead yet?

[wind acorn]

No

[wheat moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1467070468883222580/20260130_203111.gif

[floral swan]

Osteo + enlarged meniscus is a great combo for like allo, omni, troodon so they can take some fall dmg

[sudden oar]

Nah, though it's been 20 days since the last announcement

[muted crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/imsujogril-gif-3589742374503332341

[bronze rivet]

So cama gon kick dirt at crocs

[wheat moth]

And maybe flatten them into a coarse tile if they stick around for too long.

[steel sundial]

crocs are not gonna touch cama

[bronze rivet]

Yall think cama stomp will be mo op than trike thrash

[wheat moth]

Yeah, probably. That's a lot of force coming down on something.

[bronze rivet]

If it knocks down a rex 1 shot

[silk iron]

uber driver

[void marlin]

C H E E S E

[wheat moth]

Might depend on how fast the devs make it. Then again, have we seem an animation for camara's stomp? We've seen kicks and tail whips...

[glass stump]

If only we could.

[wheat moth]

Oh, nice! I completely missed this.

[trail shard]

You're a man .. you are my savior, you saved me from my Acrocanthosaurus depression 😭

[whole path]

tbe fact that we cant suicide is horrible

[muted crypt]

Yes

[wheat moth]

You've been busy! And leaning into the horror aspect is just

[ionic pagoda]

Guys im about to hit purchase on this game, How'd you guys recommend it, Worth it or nah

[wheat moth]

You can.

[whole path]

yes but so hard

[vital onyx]

i hope youre not playing on a laptop

[muted crypt]

Strong PC and Strong mind is recommended.

[pliant birch]

evensix said this lol

[vapid pumice]

id say its worth it if youre willing to put up with some jank and stuff every once in a while. it can definitely be a frustrating game (especially to learn) but its fun if you want something a little more gritty and punishing than Path of Titans

[ionic pagoda]

pc !!!

[wheat moth]

I dunno... walking through a bush and then seeing this as a gen' 2 would probably make most people jump.

[pliant birch]

yea

[ionic pagoda]

Thanks for telling me, I've never played path of titans but i saw a few videos of this game being played and its the first game that catched my eye in a while, I'll check out some reviews

[pliant birch]

tried to give the flashlighty feel, I wanted the allo to have blood dripping from its mouth but

[ionic pagoda]

yessirrr

[wheat moth]

Does that work, or should I keep it over to the right? @pliant birch

[drowsy zinc]

IMMA NEED that devblog

[pliant birch]

I dunno, do what you want with it

[muted crypt]

Tomorrow perhaps

[drowsy zinc]

probably this weekend fr

[uncut mason]

Dev blogs are always Friday