isle-discussion

[lost citrus]

i'm just legit confused

[regal notch]

it's okay I punted it far away

[misty pivot]

fledgling baiter

[void marlin]

I feel the same way. And it's not about mechanics. But about fun. No playable is fun anymore. Something happened to make Evrima so... So...
Boring perhaps? I don't know. But Legacy is way more fun (in my opinion). I had some great experiences, even whitout only fighting.

[lucid urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/not-amused-cfskn2Ozn7j9K

[misty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-running-past-gif-3044631603201692058

[void marlin]

Fake
Not real
Misinformation
Idk
Mods, fossilize this user

[misty pivot]

the ghost of islecord

[regal notch]

I just logged in and grew a pachy and was exploring, just died to an allo because hey why not RMB pin mechanic but like.... I didn't even feel mad or sad I lost it because... what am I even doing anyways? There's nothing but allo's and rexes, or trikes and dibbles, there's just.. nothing to do lol

[void marlin]

Me neither
And I can't have fun with it anymore

[regal notch]

I can't even take it seriously anymore is my issue LOL, I used to value my dino but now I'm just like... eh, some bs is gonna take it out randomly and I'm helpless about it anyways

I've just stopped caring, even casually I just don't lol

[void marlin]

I feel like you don't "connect" with your dinosaur. In the sense that you don't feel like you are the dinosaur.

[regal notch]

it's part of my fixation on Bary, at least then it can survive some of the pin meta chaos

[regal notch]

I feel like I used to, now? eh....

plz no, Bary at most would have fun with an underwater grapple but even then I hope it doesn't get a pin lol

[void marlin]

I was joking dw

[lucid urchin]

Not saying you're not allowed to rant, because I can empathise with a lot of your points, but in no way is the game finished. If you're that burnt out, put The Isle on the shelf for a bit and come back when you feel rejuvenated.

The Isle isn't the only game on Steam.

[misty pivot]

all my shirts are too short, all my shorts are too shirt

[void marlin]

That's why I'm becoming dinosaur in Euro Truck Simulator

[regal notch]

that's the thing, and yeah you're right, even I recognize from time to time that I have to remember it's still "early"... but I haven't touched the game in months, when I do for a new dino, I'm reminded "why did I start it up?" lately

[lyric hollow]

I don't think you need to justify not enjoying the game
Based on this massive list, it really looks like the fun of each of these playables has been sucked out of you
I personally find most of them very fun, as do others I guess, but there's no shame in admitting that you're not enjoying and that the game isn't for you

Tldr: you don't need to blame the game and try to criticize the game's features / design to justify anything. Just say you don't like apples rather than listing 20 problems about apples.

[regal notch]

I wouldn't say justifying, just more trying to find a reason to be "excited to play" so to speak, (though excited is a bit of an exaggeration I'd say), I usually can find something I can enjoy but lately?... I can't spot one

[lucid urchin]

Don't play it on launch if you don't want to experience everyone playing it and bugs running rampant. The two most anticipated animals for The Isle got implemented and people are surprised that people flocked to it like a moth to a flame. We expected it.

The pin mechanic needs and is getting worked on.

[muted crypt]

Yeah, there is a lot of inbalance rn, you should prob take a break. They will eventually iron things out and if the game makes u mad consantly, you will burn out so bad you prob won't touch the game at all. take a break bro and come back in like half a year-year.

[indigo cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382092340239274006/1459652222089691156/togif.gif

[regal notch]

I wouldn't say I'm surprised, I'm just tired of it being the only thing I see and on top of it having the most OP mechanic in the game preventing the joy of playing others. It's kinda like how I feel about yugioh now, the fun turned into "my fun is negating your fun".

[void marlin]

Don't get me wrong, but I love The Isle. It's an incredible game, absurdly engaging... But now Evrima seems very superficial. I personally had more fun with Legacy than with Evrima. And And no, I don't hate Evrima, I actually like both versions. But Evrima seems... Hollow.

[regal notch]

💀 I waited a half a year already too lol

[floral junco]

Maybe hop off officials and you'll start enjoying the game again lol

[lyric hollow]

Not a single point in that list actually applies if you play an unofficial with high server player count and pop control
Entirely different experience

[regal notch]

this was on unofficials LOL

[void marlin]

Even on unofficials.

[regal notch]

^ this

[lucid urchin]

To ease your mind, Kissen has mentioned an idea floating around of a manual retaliation mechanic. Similarly to when you pin an Omni. It automatically deals bleed back.

"You might be bigger and stronger than this dangerous animal, but it's still a dangerous animal and WILL retaliate."

So, just keep that in mind.

[floral junco]

Sounds like you're just burnt out then, I've been having a great time playing all the dinos (except Deino because that is still the most boring thing to play).

[void marlin]

Deino gameplay (it's fire):

[regal notch]

I actually recently posted a suggestion relative to that mention in #general-feedback funny you mention lol

[indigo cave]

I wouldn't call it hollow, just painfully unbalanced

[floral junco]

afk for five hours because there's just actually nothing you can do

[lucid urchin]

Excellent. But yeah, based on what I read, I'd diagnose a break from The Isle in general until some new updates arise. Seems like you might need it.

[regal notch]

I will see you in 2030 💀

[lucid urchin]

Closer than you think.

[lyric hollow]

Idk man, I get you have opinions, but this little bit you're saying is just factually incorrect.

Evrima is beyond legacy in every possible way. It's a way more in depth fleshed out experience, more detailed, way better looking, and lots more potential.

[floral junco]

I think Legacy has Evrima beat in one very key area: vibe.

[indigo cave]

Did you leave the server?

[void marlin]

Okay. But what about fun wise? Yes, Evrima is better in design and looks. But what about experience?

[void marlin]

↑ This ↑

[lyric hollow]

I think it's a few hundred thousand times more fun than legacy lol

[deep wolf]

huh

[floral junco]

The isolated, tranquil, almost anxious feel of Legacy is very good. All mechanics and playables aside, being on Legacy felt very different.

[lucid urchin]

Read the first rule in the discord.

[regal notch]

I know the devs have a different size chart for what they consider mediums, smalls, etc.. but my god I wish mediums we had currently (dilo, raptor, cera maybe) weren't in the boat they're in rn where they just don't even matter or are worth playing unless you mix pack or get to full growth before anything making you strictly only killing whatever's smaller than you... which then promotes the very cycle dondi memes about how isle players just kill each other because that's the only mentality.

[lyric hollow]

Legacy was incredibly bland and cartoonish.
The only thing it has going for it is nostalgia, not quality

[indigo cave]

Strong disagree, booting up legacy feels like playing 2015 abandonware (it's literally what it is)

[deep wolf]

it says @/ pming someone i just replied too them

1. Please do not tag/pm developers

[lucid urchin]

If you want to reply, turn off the ping on reply.

[deep wolf]

oh how do i do that

[feral shadow]

i find it funny, because a lot fo the things being thrown around are things i feel about legacy, i really dont have any motivation to play any specific species in legacy, unless its not in evrima, legacy just feels like you are playing to grow, and nothing more, i havent even experienced most of v3 and thenyaw, because populations on legavy are so tightly packed. i think its more of a point of view thing over any actual concrete "betterness" in legacy.

[lucid urchin]

Either click the blue @ symbol or hold shift whilst clicking reply.

[feral shadow]

most of the reason i hop on legacy is for nostalgic purposes

[floral junco]

I'd still pick Evrima over Legacy, and I have both downloaded so I could play either whenever I want, but I think the only think that Evrima hasn't eclipsed Legacy on (and honestly may never) is that atmosphere Legacy has when you're traveling the map by yourself.

[deep wolf]

is there any plans too add a system that lets you check if your prime before you hit prime?

[lucid urchin]

Much better.

[floral junco]

I think Evrima comes close to that sort of vibe with the new light fog, or other times when the ambience dies down.

[feral shadow]

to me, i dont think any has a superior vibe, they just have different vibes, and thats okay.

[deep wolf]

ok fixed it, i was just watching a video on the whole video being ruined because he didnt hit prime and didnt wanna regrow his carno

[indigo cave]

There are two reasons to play legacy
Anky and pue, that's it

[lyric hollow]

Self hatred is also another reason

[deep wolf]

oh, do you know where that message is?

[dapper dagger]

Evrima is not in a good spot right now, but I'd still take it over Legacy. Excluding pinslop, Evrima's combat is still more interesting compared to Legacy where you're just tailriding.

[deep wolf]

this

[feral shadow]

ill take pinslop over tailriding anyday and i will die on that hill

[floral junco]

Legacy atmosphere feels more like a classic hardcore survival game, DayZ-esque bleakness. Evrima atmosphere feels a lot more alive and full, for better or worse.

[regal notch]

that's a very dead hill 💀

[floral junco]

I also agree lol

[dapper dagger]

I won't leave Legacy entirely without credit though because Dilo was a literal FORCE at the end of it. And I remember there were times when Dilo was good in Evrima. But unfortunately not right now.

[feral shadow]

legacy utah players are the worst

[lyric hollow]

It's not even pinslop anymore tbh. The thresholds have been reduced a lot over time.
And even then, it thematically makes sense to subdue your prey and prevent escape.

Tail riding is just [vomit]

[lucid urchin]

Tried hunting at night? Your venom is more potent.

[floral junco]

As fun as it was to kill things with juvi Cera on Legacy, the tailriding is just way less engaging in the end.

[dapper dagger]

Clones don't work right now and even then, Dilo has bizarrely bad agility with no slide, and it's way too loud for its size

[void marlin]

😢

[feral shadow]

evrima dilo, as broken as it is, made me love my most hated dinosaur in legacy, thats an acheivement.

[floral junco]

400kg Dilo is louder than 800kg Cera

[dapper dagger]

NGL my most hated dinosaur back in legacy was Giga. I remember earlier times when Giga was so fast it invalidated so many things

[feral shadow]

i just have VERY personal gripes with dilo

[lucid urchin]

Needs some adjustments for sure. The clones are high priority based on #announcements

I think it needs the Legacy fear factor to return.

[indigo cave]

This. If I want to play get behind the enemy simulator I will just play war thunder air, that's actually fun

[regal notch]

I love Dilo, like I'd love to play Dilo rn... but why when everything has as good of NV, pins it easily or can get into a corner and prevent it from ever doing anything lol

[regal notch]

big agree

[dapper dagger]

I also hated Shant back then, because way back in progression times when I worked my way up to a Spino, it wasn't long until I was then ran down by a Shant and got whooped.

[lyric hollow]

I have never seen a dinosaur be called the sherbet of dinosaurs lol

[feral shadow]

im more afraid of troodon than dilo

[regal notch]

Dilo is the glass bones debuff rn

[indigo cave]

I'm so glad people are finally realising dilo is on the gutter

[regal notch]

Troodon's wildly crazy good rn and for no reason got the hallucination added to its venom because idk

[dapper dagger]

Some dinosaurs should have poor night vision in my opinion. Carno should be one of them

[lucid urchin]

As you should be.

[regal notch]

oh it's been there for a while

[feral shadow]

its not even THAT insanely good, its just ANNOYING

[indigo cave]

Carno has "bad" nv

[regal notch]

AGREED, why is the thing that can ramp up in speed able to see so well at night like wdf?

[floral junco]

I think Dilo's been lame ever since the first NV pass since Dilo's release. Once they equalized NV ranges with the old NV it became way less fun to play Dilo. And when they completely reworked NV it didn't solve that problem either. If anything its sometimes worse since you can see farther now than ever before.

[regal notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577581823417253943/1468085535988781137/Bonk.mp4?ex=69a06673&is=699f14f3&hm=9f652e472164903688554ae5dd4e355842a34cdc9cb18b2b59f41ae715cae24d& the precision tho

[dapper dagger]

TBF even as little as just giving Dilo a slide to make up for its bad agility and making it much quieter would make it much more viable.

[floral junco]

Troodon venom fog right now is genuinely epilepsy inducing during fog, I'm shocked the devs are letting that stay in the game so long with no quick patches to fix.

[void marlin]

Even so, I feel it manages to be more fun than Evrima.

[regal notch]

yeh, dilo used to be an actual nightmare at night to hear. Now if someone hears one? lol I'ma just tuck my head into a tree/wall or hell I can just SEE it... like mentioned, it really lost its fear factor

[indigo cave]

What the hell is wrong with you :/

[feral shadow]

again, its probabhly just points of view

[dapper dagger]

Gonna be honest I'm not a fan of Troodon venom inducing fog. I thought it was cool when only Dilo did that.

[regal notch]

that wasn't me LMAO (and she murdered their whole family of 6 too)

[indigo cave]

People are flipping clowns, killing dryos should unironically get you banned

[void marlin]

Yeah, good point

[regal notch]

troodon still has that engagement element to it even if I don't like the hallucination mechanic being added, where you actually have to flank and time your pounces, work as a group, bait, there's not just a 1 button kill

[floral junco]

Dilo's clones also used to be less buggy back when they had more ways to counter them, but in the pursuit of trying to make the clones impervious to being countered they have bugged them to hell and back so many times I've lost count.

[regal notch]

maybe when dryo can do something or defend itself, it won't die

[void marlin]

Die plz

[feral shadow]

im not saying your WRONG for feeling like you do, im just saying how i feel about legacy

[regal notch]

again, not me LMAO

[crude girder]

Bear655

[dapper dagger]

I remember when Maia was first added, Dilo was actually capable of being a serious threat to it if it was in a pack.

[lost citrus]

I never die as dryo

[void marlin]

I understand and respect your opinion.

[floral junco]

I mean, if I'm a grown Dryo and I'm being attacked by just one Troodon I'm killing it 10 times out of 10. I diagnose that Dryo with a skill issue.

[void marlin]

Could you repeat, plz?

[feral shadow]

rare in this economy

[regal notch]

all dryos die at some point, whether its by my ex wife's troodon or not is up to chance really

[void marlin]

What is a economy?

[regal notch]

you can diagnose the whole family with skill issue then LOL

[lost citrus]

I'm of the opinion that most animals light enough to be picked up by quetz will probably just die from the initial peck

[dapper dagger]

Hot take(?): I remember when Carno charge didn't do bleed and that it could only charge when it was running. I wish it had stayed that way. Now Carno's just kind of braindead and its part of the reason why Dilo struggles so much now.

[regal notch]

it just needs to do what cats do to their kittens picking em up by the nape of their neck

[regal notch]

inb4 we get back the OP clones again that made everyone ragequit because of Dilo tho

[void marlin]

Carno charge deals bleed?!??? How??? Like, his horns aren't even sharp

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/white-kitten-chopsticks-cat-chopsticks-kitten-chopsticks-holding-kitten-gif-16133282778799879477

[dapper dagger]

Yeah Carno charge does bleed

[void marlin]

Poor car

[regal notch]

something something skull bash internal bleeding

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-speech-bubble-speech-discord-gif-25192162

[feral shadow]

pinslop

[dapper dagger]

By that logic Pachy should be able to do bleed too lmao

[regal notch]

seconds before quetz drops it from a mountain

[floral junco]

I just kinda assumed the rest of the family were juvies. They'd stand no chance regardless, but perhaps its still a skill issue that they didn't escape.

[regal notch]

iirc didn't it used to if you hit a body shot?

[lost citrus]

that kitten had no way to fight back, chopsticks are OP and need a nerf

[void marlin]

Give Oingo Boingo a pin

[regal notch]

there were 2-3 fully grown adults 💀

[feral shadow]

i think its moreso the horns but you know i agree

[regal notch]

Anyway, gimme Bary or fix Dilo, just ffs lemme play a medium and exist in this pin meta filled with giants and apexes

[lost citrus]

I've done that with a troodon when playing ptera, it was fun

[void marlin]

Give Venan a pin

[digital tulip]

😂 💀

[regal notch]

dev jumpscare

[void marlin]

Omg a red role homo sapiens sapiens

[ruby oak]

hi

[lost citrus]

hi

[wind acorn]

Hi Kissen

[void marlin]

hi

[tepid robin]

hi

[regal notch]

kissen I don't mean to ask this like a "ETA" but more like, is the plan to drop the trio of dinos together or release 1 by 1 in testing etc?

[lost citrus]

so many owls

[void marlin]

Copycat

[ruby oak]

twit twoo

[wind acorn]

Hoot hoot

[tepid robin]

Liar, you are copying me

[regal notch]

and the one owl I'd expect isn't even here @cinder cave

[void marlin]

No u

[digital tulip]

Hi!

I'm not really here though. I just laughed at the meme. I can't chat atm. Ruhl busy.

[tepid robin]

No u

[ruby oak]

Happens.

[zinc stratus]

Not breathing until bary drops

[regal notch]

💀

[tulip glade]

Devblog Friday

[regal notch]

we gonna die fr

[wind acorn]

Ah yes. We need our mascot

[regal notch]

also a dev posted, that means I have to repost

[ruby oak]

2026 is going way too quickly

[tepid robin]

bary 67

[void marlin]

Things I hate the most:
1- jego
2- Venan
3- Rumple
4- Rex and Cera
5- 99% of the USA population

[regal notch]

well dang that was fast :(

[paper willow]

US Servers are so bad with mixpackers...

[tepid robin]

You are copying me and now you are hating me for that?

[void marlin]

I said hi before u

[ruby oak]

No hate, it is Wednesday

[feral shadow]

hypsi

[tepid robin]

you were copying me even before that, so its not your first time

[void marlin]

No, I was copying myself

[lost citrus]

Do you happen to know what kind of bird is this?

[tepid robin]

You copied my "i forgot", dont you remember?

[feral shadow]

pheasant

[void marlin]

I say i forgor you PEASANT

[lost citrus]

doesn't look like any pheasant I've seen

[tepid robin]

Thats called copying

[ruby oak]

If spices and meat were both sourced from the same animal, that animal would be cajun chicken

[void marlin]

But I said before

[feral shadow]

looks to be a golden pheasant

[void marlin]

Hummingbird

[indigo cave]

I have no idea, my apolocheese

[ruby oak]

WHAT, OTHER PEOPLE SAY THIS AS WELL??

[feral shadow]

wait no

[void marlin]

Cheese? Where?

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[ruby oak]

No why is that actually scary, I've been saying that for months

[tepid robin]

No

[void marlin]

Misinformation

[ruby oak]

but I say it with two L's, this is wrong

[feral shadow]

nvm im dumb it just kind of looks like a golden pheasant, but im 90% sure thta is a species of pheasant

[lost citrus]

Red Golden Pheasant
Chrysolophus pictus

[tepid robin]

Youre delusional

[dapper dagger]

One thing I don't look forward to about the game's future if it people at large just end up treating the game like an apex carnivore simulator after future playables, and if 70% of the playerbase only touches Rex, Spino and Giga

And that's coming from someone that really likes Spino and would love to play as it. But it'd be really lame if Rexes and Gigas were to be all I see as a Spino.

[void marlin]

No u

[tepid robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reverse-card-uno-kglJT6YSEdxSEpfrEd

[void marlin]

Damn u

[feral shadow]

i deadass thought that looked like a bar of soap

[void marlin]

@feral shadow, jego is bullying me 😭

[feral shadow]

hi

[void marlin]

Hello

[indigo cave]

😭

[tepid robin]

First he is copying me and now accusing me of bullying

[void marlin]

Me evil sorry

[ruby oak]

This is where I would say, bring out the hyper predatory AI that we've seen in streams, just an in-game detection that spawns a rex to actively seek and cull overpopulated species. (Would never happen)

[tepid robin]

We can be friends Ian and hate on ceras and rexes together.

[void marlin]

Deal

[tepid robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SappySeals-love-heart-hearts-LBMiDWkCw0e53UOcm0

Im a fren now

[indigo cave]

Hating on ceras is crazy

[void marlin]

Cera is stinky

[quasi vector]

stinky cera😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[zinc stratus]

The amount of bugs that will happen if that came woof

[tepid robin]

totally agreed

[void marlin]

People I hate the most:
1- Cucho
2- Rumple
3- Venan
4- Gotta choose someone
5- Same thing from 4

[dapper dagger]

Decent chance that Alberto ends up being the ultimate broken op midtier when it gets added, and then people would hate Alberto so much that the past Cerato hate will look tame by comparison.

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-thanos-avengers-endgame-gif-710112898283581777

[regal notch]

I love cera

[indigo cave]

I like cera too

[regal notch]

👀

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh the only change I think Cerato needs is the charge bite slowdown effect happening as soon as it clicks the charge bite rather than after max damage

[regal notch]

Cucho we should play cera together

[indigo cave]

My little trash compactor

[void marlin]

People I hate the most:
1- Cucho
2- Venan
3- Rumple
4- Gotta choose someone
5- Same thing from 4

[manic fulcrum]

Oh and letting it gain nutrients past 100% food. Idk why it can’t

[regal notch]

there we go

the best part is quetz might be durable enough to take a cera bile bite so it can throw up mid air and projectile vomit on someone randomly

[void marlin]

This is actually a good idea ngl

[regal notch]

thought you'd like it

[dapper dagger]

Cerato vs Bary gonna be a fun matchup I think

[regal notch]

too ba quetz won't be out until 2028

[void marlin]

People I hate the most:
1- Cucho
2- Rumple
3- Venan
4- Gotta choose someone
5- Same thing from 4

[tepid robin]

Sounds good for me

[regal notch]

dammit

[manic fulcrum]

I mean I imagine Quetz would have no more health than a dilo at most. So it’s only taking like 1 maybe 2 charge bites at most

Good thing about Quetz though is it’s tall, so you can’t headshot it reliably

[indigo cave]

Me when I get you

[void marlin]

Tip:

• To be hated by me, say bad things.

[regal notch]

bad things

[tepid robin]

good things

[void marlin]

Holy crap
People I hate the most:
1- Venan
2- Cucho
3- Rumple
4- Gotta choose someone
5- Same thing from 4

[regal notch]

ayyyy

[outer plank]

Are you special

[indigo cave]

where the hell did the americans go to

[void marlin]

I said people not things

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[regal notch]

legalize killing baby dryos

[tepid robin]

I'm also special, thats why I'm here

[indigo cave]

im not playing cera with you anymore

[outer plank]

When was it illegal

[tepid robin]

No wonder why Ian hates you

[regal notch]

I'm doing great things in life, like burning dryos

[void marlin]

Freak I fear the most:

• Venan
  He's the only one

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-hitting-cat-cat-punching-cat-cat-slapping-cat-orange-cat-hitting-cat-gif-6585435513579432745

[misty pivot]

hi

[grand grotto]

The frenzied apple pie is making hamburger factory in Atlantis

[void marlin]

I don't have uranium sorry

[misty pivot]

I do its ok

[indigo cave]

Godzilla had a stroke

[grand grotto]

Can I have 5 metric tons

[tepid robin]

I dont like the red haired guy from Shrek 3

[tepid robin]

Rumplestingwinaiwufiuolaw or something like that

[errant spade]

Is the carno's charge broken right now? I just came back to the game after a few months and it doesn't feel like it's working

[void marlin]

People I would take on a deluxe date:

• jego

[indigo cave]

What the hell are you naming your characters in English bruh

[tepid robin]

I hate him

[indigo cave]

What would your boyfriend say about that?

[grand grotto]

😨

[split vine]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-house-reginald-eat-hungry-gif-27381144

[tepid robin]

❤️

[void marlin]

I broke up with him.

[void marlin]

Okay, where's the problem?

[indigo cave]

Oh dang

[void marlin]

HOWWWW

[tepid robin]

I was once thinking about making children with your wife to keep your family fed

[oblique geyser]

[neon elk]

hi

[regal notch]

fuel for the furnace

[regal notch]

I get to be your freak <3

[tepid robin]

Or keeping your son in a basement for his whole life, not saying a word or teaching him language so you can release him after he is a fully grown man into the public

[regal notch]

you missed the owl convention earlier

[grand grotto]

Bruh I'm out I'm going to sleep man

[tepid robin]

I didnt mean you I meant the guy from shrek 3

[cinder cave]

I was at a staff meeting for my job

[regal notch]

ah the other owls

[tepid robin]

hope you won't dream about it..

[neon elk]

dreams

[cinder cave]

Mods, unroll his cochlea

[grand grotto]

Bruh I always get fever dreams idk what's happening half the thyme in them

[regal notch]

👁️ thyme

[acoustic wagon]

When devlog?

[neon elk]

wake

[grand grotto]

This is you you tricked Shrek!!!

[cinder cave]

Slander and lies

[oblique geyser]

this chat has gone nuts

[grand grotto]

Truth and justice!!!

[cinder cave]

End of the week

[acoustic wagon]

Thank

[grand grotto]

Lemonade

[tepid robin]

I dont know how to answer so ill just say goodnight

[grand grotto]

There's only 47 hours left no point

[tepid robin]

Fair enough

Waiting whole month just to get 5 minutes of happiness and repeat

[indigo cave]

Wait why did it get deleted?

[grand grotto]

Bruh I got work tomorrow someone go in for me pls and thank you

[neon elk]

we all get deleted, some day or another

[grand grotto]

You 🫵

[neon elk]

hi

[grand grotto]

Go into work for me

[sick kraken]

oh my god devblob snuck up on me. its on furday

[neon elk]

oh yes
true
dblog should be this week

that is jolly

[neon elk]

sorry i have uni versi tie today, for too long
my uni needs to have better schedule

[cinder cave]

Read rule 5

[grand grotto]

How about instead of that you put items on a trolley for 8 hours

[indigo cave]

Wait what? What as nsfw about it?

[neon elk]

we should all re-read rule 5, methinks

[neon elk]

its more then just NSFW

Do not post anything which is NSFW. This includes but is not limited to: excessive profanity and sexual/illicit content, Hateful, threatening, provocative or vulgar content or videos/images of animals under duress in any form is not allowed. Nor is any content which infringes on copyright or violates any other applicable law(s).

Do not post hyper distorted audio, maximized audio, or videos focused on the subject. In short; Don't blow out peoples ear drums. Also please refrain from discussing controversial topics such as religion and politics.

[grand grotto]

You posted loud stuff

[neon elk]

sorry but i prefer the job of teaching students piano, sorry :((

[indigo cave]

I see

[regal notch]

nothing is sfw at any job ngl, having you rphone out is a crime

[neon elk]

said the blind man

[grand grotto]

Nah sorry you don't good try tho you start at 3pm tomorrow gl

[indigo cave]

Loud funny tho

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

[regal notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBALuBl9V-U

[grand grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510505182891868205/1013834172885893130/8570-rbg-lego-stud.gif

This is ur reward

[wicked prism]

I'm allowed to watch whatever I want to at work so i'm on my phone all day if I have no workload, lol.

[neon elk]

woohoo!!

[grand grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432025103352332432/1463386195911381043/attachment.gif

[void marlin]

-# help

[neon elk]

hm

[feral shadow]

maybe

[lost citrus]

Mmmm

[shrewd meteor]

Is tbi s the isle

[void marlin]

-# please

[feral shadow]

how

[indigo cave]

Wait I lost image perms over a mistake? Come on what the hell :/

[void marlin]

Idk
Nerf him?

[feral shadow]

100 kg weight nerf

[indigo cave]

Rumple that was uncalled for

[void marlin]

HA! I can post this and u can't

[tepid robin]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExM3ByMGk5dTRseWptZTl4Y2hwNG96dG10ejY0bXRhM3gwc2s5eTUzaSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/CdBD6dihKnnjUzXTFc/giphy.gif

[feral shadow]

big ass minmi

[regal notch]

burgerminmi

[void marlin]

MINMI NOOOOO
-# I'm saving this tho

[neon elk]

@gentle sundial

[regal notch]

eat minburg

[tepid robin]

how can you even post something like that?

[indigo cave]

Venan you are evil

[regal notch]

like this, see I ctrl V because it's sitting in paint rn to ctrl C

[feral shadow]

this button

[regal notch]

6 7

[neon elk]

which button

[tepid robin]

Youre evil

[void marlin]

People that should be banned from The Isle:

• Venan
• Only Venan

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/typo-minor-spelling-mistake-M56ODZS3lNohNIoVDd it's yu're*

[neon elk]

r'e*

[indigo cave]

My loud video gets my banned but threatening minmi doesn't? I see how it is

[tepid robin]

Its not what i meant

[tepid robin]

yu're

[regal notch]

woha

[indigo cave]

'r

[void marlin]

'

[regal notch]

^ someone beat me to it

[indigo cave]

,

[void marlin]

_ _
_ _

[indigo cave]

Very intriguing dinosaur discussion

[void marlin]

Someone beat him up

[regal notch]

u'w'u

[void marlin]

O w O

[tepid robin]

ara ara

[regal notch]

awoof

[void marlin]

H-Hello V-Venan-chan... Blushes cutely 👉👈

[regal notch]

stepminmi I'm stuck >//<

[tepid robin]

I will meow if devs drop kentro and austro ht right now

[void marlin]

Done

[tepid robin]

aw hell nah

[indigo cave]

Why the hell are the O with accent banned ?????

[regal notch]

but both of those are gonna be boring tho Take the bait

[void marlin]

You gotta have little spaces
Ò w Ó

[tepid robin]

I swear if they drop it rn im going to make a video of me meowing

[indigo cave]

Why?

[wind acorn]

Chat getting weird again🤣

[void marlin]

Grrr, no, austro and Bary cool you should be banned grrr

[void marlin]

All Venan's fault

[regal notch]

Bary > austro and kentro combined ngl

[tepid robin]

noo leave my boy kentro alone he is too cute for that

[indigo cave]

I have to say islecord has the weirdest word bans in the history of ever

[void marlin]

Kentro > Minmi > Anky

[tepid robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1010085260140220477/1367332331370709044/E9A849C7-A577-4F6B-98EF-907FC5FB49C1.gif

[void marlin]

You cant say idiot'a without the '

[indigo cave]

Don't ever 2 call me ever again

[tepid robin]

just look at him go

[void marlin]

But... Anky

[regal notch]

this is kentro ngl

but with stego's template

[tepid robin]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-jones-uzbek-gif-9108365450976190246

[void marlin]

Give Kentro a crush

[regal notch]

doesn't even have spikes on its thighs, pathetic

[feral shadow]

please tell me this is a gif

[tepid robin]

and grab

[void marlin]

Actually, who has???

[regal notch]

wkentro should deathrll

[indigo cave]

It is but I'm image banned :/

[feral shadow]

good

[feral shadow]

me

[void marlin]

YAY 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[tepid robin]

Yeah it should roll like rammus from league

[indigo cave]

I hope your pillow isn't comfy today

[void marlin]

No u don't

[feral shadow]

i meant good that it is a gif

[tepid robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/leagueoflegends-league-of-legends-leagueorlegends-np9PsaLelRmaIwrzFF

[indigo cave]

Oh, I hope your pillow is comfy today then

[void marlin]

😐

[tepid robin]

I can tell by your hating on minmi and kentro

[indigo cave]

Are evrima servers dead? Can't connect to anything

[regal notch]

you know who else hates kentro and minmi?

[void marlin]

Don't talk about the mom of the others...

[regal notch]

it's okay she entombed

[tepid robin]

Okay, venan i love your mom c:

[regal notch]

my mom's an allo

[void marlin]

So sorry for your loss...

[regal notch]

it's okay she kept the best mutations

[tepid robin]

am i getting canceled

[regal notch]

even got prime ngl

[void marlin]

Wow she's sick

[regal notch]

idk, are you teen titan's final season?

or a twitter user

[void marlin]

AALOSAUURUOS FRGILOS

[tepid robin]

Oh i might be getting canceled

[regal notch]

F

[neon elk]

printers print
what do you do

[wind acorn]

Sounds like a wizard spell

[void marlin]

I talked english incorrectly

[neon elk]

oh

[void marlin]

Yes, it's a pinslop spell

[wind acorn]

lol

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/famous-wiwi-wiwiwi-cat-QSBHKUYuT1JVe0WLit

minmi hiding in corpses be like

[void marlin]

This is hate speech.

[neon elk]

oh

[tepid robin]

thats all he is doing tonight

[regal notch]

no that would be the speech I give about cutting off kentro's spikes so cera can use em as tootpicks

[regal notch]

the world will burn until bary is present

[void marlin]

Delete Cera NOW

[tepid robin]

bary67

[nimble raven]

wtf did allo idle get changed in skin customization menu, its so stiff lol, its moving just very slightly

[regal notch]

nest in more ceras, let it be the only prime elder going forward

[visual crow]

Skill issue

[void marlin]

No u

[visual crow]

🤡

[regal notch]

I'ma shower, too much stinky kentro worship in here

[void marlin]

Probally a bug...
Nice skin btw

[tepid robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reverse-card-uno-kglJT6YSEdxSEpfrEd

[void marlin]

I like those black - gray - white skins

[tepid robin]

same

[nimble raven]

thank you 😄

[tepid robin]

look at my cool prime elder canni allo I have grown 3 weeks ago

[void marlin]

Oh, so coo-
Wait, canni?

[nimble raven]

duuuude they changed allos idle I think, its noticeably way tamer

[void marlin]

Good or bad?

[tepid robin]

I haven't killed any other allos don't worry, died attacking adult trike because of a bug + took cannibalistic for cooler skin color

[nimble raven]

its just way less animated, i dont mind it at all tbh

[void marlin]

Oh... Good... Btw, I was joking
Cannibalism isn't something I hate, as it is something natural irl

[visual crow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/stupid-wojak-no-brain-TJ68L5sMrEWOQlh7eP

[void marlin]

This is you trying to think?

Dw, you'll get it someday

[tepid robin]

okayy got it

[tepid robin]

He came here, hated on you and now he is hating on me

[tepid robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gym-cortisol-spike-low-test-eCobiFJ0vnQwmKmhPh

[void marlin]

More one hater for me... I think

[west thistle]

can 2 allos pin a prime steg?

[void marlin]

Well, it's bed time for me
Goodnight everyone!

[west thistle]

asking beacuse uh.. i think its not possible

[tepid robin]

devs nuke him

[void marlin]

If the stego is on low stamina, yes

[west thistle]

no i wasnt...

[tepid robin]

goodnight Ian hope you sleep well c:

[visual crow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sleep-child-wo-rvxGjhW3TKVeo

[west thistle]

so my report.. i hope it goes thru

[void marlin]

Thx, u too <3

[cerulean vessel]

hi, i just begin to play again after some time, any place you can recomend me that has a lot of action?

[tepid robin]

Recently I have seen a dino gang war on west rail

[regal notch]

Real talk, why is someone excited for kentro, what's it going to do that stego doesn't with the addition of pin defense?

Sell me on this creature

[nimble raven]

did sanctuaries just stop working lmao, I keep seeing raptors and ceras that should be wayyy too big to comfortably be in sanctuaries, its dumb af

[regal notch]

There's just not enough bees. My briefcase full of bees should put a stop to that

[tepid robin]

It's same as diablo and trike - diablo is lighter trike with more energy and a lot faster. Plus kentro will have some cool other abillities

[cerulean vessel]

thanks

[tepid robin]

np

[low cloak]

This is like saying why do people play dibble when you can just play trike

[tepid robin]

I mean I'm still a bary lover and I want bary asap but kentro and austro are also cool dinos, and if we get austro and kentro soon we will get bary soon.

[regal notch]

Yeh but dibble came out first, so trike was just bigger dibble, this is stego but smol

[somber urchin]

cactus teno

[regal notch]

I mean I don't see dibbles anynmore 😏

[tepid robin]

smol and with spikes which means attacking him might hurt

[regal notch]

Austro I totes get, kentro baffles me

[dusky night]

Walking herrera exhibit

[regal notch]

Okay this is a good point

[low cloak]

then your not looking hard enough

[regal notch]

But why no love for Ovi

[brittle sequoia]

@sick kraken nurliss cat

[sick kraken]

nice

[regal notch]

Prolly cuz too many fatass trikes blocking my view

[misty pivot]

STUPID looking face

[low cloak]

Thats valid im excited asf for this creature

[tepid robin]

I just like playing creatures because they look cool, and i absolutely love kentros design and how cute is it

[sick kraken]

🤣

[brittle sequoia]

Fr.

[regal notch]

:( it's a tucan

[low cloak]

I wanna grief nests and not feel like evil so bad

[brittle sequoia]

Change ur name to Faps.

[regal notch]

Its a meat stickbug

Typing in the shower js hard

[cinder cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[regal notch]

I wanna play hypsi Nd hVe colors back again

Gimme back my blu

Anyways did you know prime is gaeaunterd by eating newborn dryos? Crazy stuff,

[onyx galleon]

elite spawn still not fixed?

[regal notch]

Noh

[onyx galleon]

dawm months had past...

[tepid robin]

Okay guys I'm going to bed
Goodnight everyone

[regal notch]

Thhat 's what I've been saying but about bary

[regal notch]

G'night, punt minni's in sleep

[tepid robin]

❤️

[onyx galleon]

if they didnt fix what is already ingame imagine what is to come ahahah

[regal notch]

I pray bary brings fish fixes

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

I cannot embed either

[regal notch]

I'll embed you

[void marlin]

Ok rumplestinky

[void marlin]

Chat, point and laugh at this guy
-# Jk, you're cool Cucho

[indigo cave]

[charred root]

rumplestinkskin

[midnight tundra]

I just realized theres a new change in steamdb changelog. First one in a week.

[manic fulcrum]

🙏

[somber urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebody-bop-minute-hour-gif-5463860976927669411

[cinder cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1476246721347588146/20260225_085655.gif?ex=69a06d65&is=699f1be5&hm=54b78341c7bc5e70fa1d87677f0b52ddb8a5d9da43f1fb7ba4361d5d113a68b6&=

[manic fulcrum]

DONDI fix MZ’s and my life is yours

[proud forge]

why cant i lay eggs on my nest?

[hoary sage]

Have you gestated them?

[frozen cove]

you may be male o-o

stop making them fix stuff so they can work on the things people want... more dinos

[regal notch]

I don't even know if they're needing to be fixed or if they're working as intended

[cinder cave]

Hwhat

[sterile gulch]

aadas

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/giphyqa-TvhnLUa7lrfb2

[regal notch]

pretty looking dog

[nimble raven]

Holy your profile note is based, yuty is so based

My favorite dinos easily, first spino, then yuty, and the rest dont really matter cause the first two are exponentially higher lmao

[sleek marsh]

And then he died

[sleek marsh]

All hail the snail

[proud forge]

wait so why does it say im infertile right when i hit 100%? how do i make more basbies

[sleek marsh]

You're too old

[mighty lake]

yall is the new developer blog coming out soon

[lost citrus]

stealing this for art inspiration

[vagrant narwhal]

dino Menopause

[lost citrus]

3 days

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-bruh-gif-20308185

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/three-days-spongebob-angry-pissed-off-gif-2851410486087835680

[mighty lake]

hmm kay

[rustic scarab]

We getting any updates to stuff soon? Being a black hypsi is killing me dudes

[jolly mantle]

I miss my bright coloured hypsi 😪

[rustic scarab]

Unacceptable hypsi nerfs

[violet phoenix]

thanks for taking care of us baby carnos-us 8 ❤️

[regal notch]

it's /unstuck to fix your positioning right?

[rare tide]

Correct

[regal notch]

neat

[teal mist]

THE ISLE

[drowsy basin]

THE ISLE

[uncut mason]

The Isle

[misty pivot]

hi

[uncut mason]

Hi

[rich elk]

BRO

DID THEY JUST WIPE THE HORDETESTING SERVERS

[misty pivot]

why are you on hordetest

[teal mist]

there is no hordetest mate

[leaden cobalt]

THE ISLE

[rich elk]

🙄 There is a hordetest branch

[thin nest]

why are you using hordetest

[lost citrus]

yeah, it's the same as regular evrima rn

Now if they pull the HT, that's maybe news, as it would suggest they are prepping for another one

[leaden cobalt]

The Horde

[pulsar turtle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tryan-trying

[leaden cobalt]

For me

[real pendant]

Sondvich

[manic fulcrum]

I just watched a Teno get grabbed at a pond I was gonna drink at

Scary times

[real pendant]

Yeah it’s hard here on

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-the-isle-the-isle-game-isle-game-gif-18580526

[halcyon locust]

can someone remind me if we still get the devlog at the end of february despite it being a shorter month

[real pendant]

Yes (I would assume)

[subtle sleet]

I saw that one time, it wasnt a Teno, but it was pretty scary to see a prime elder deino grab something lol.

[halcyon locust]

aight

[subtle sleet]

Right before you were about to either cross or drink lmao.

[ruby oak]

burger

[somber urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176353200253706361/1475629652490977300/20260223_160425.gif

[undone cliff]

What the fuck is pinslop

[indigo cave]

Pins. They are slop

[hoary sage]

new gen alpha catchphrase from this server

[indigo cave]

Slop is something common of low quality, in this case getting pinned/pinning

[somber urchin]

the name people who don't like pin use for pin.

[undone cliff]

That's dumb

[wind acorn]

It’s like saying AI slop. Cause it is. Though I doubt a pig would eat AI slop

[rare tide]

A dumb word people use to complain about pins because they can't actually come up with intelligent ways of reworking/improving them and instead just act like the entire concept is so inherently flawed that they should just be deleted completely

[real pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176353200253706361/1475629652490977300/20260223_160425.gif

[indigo cave]

There have been thousands of suggestions to fix allo tf are you on

[undone cliff]

Eugh

[rare tide]

The most complaints I have legit seen and "suggestions" are

"Remove the pin"
"Remove this"
"Remove that"

[lost citrus]

If we get austro and bary in the same HT, I wonder if that will finally revive the swamp

Inevitably deino will be popular in that HT too

[indigo cave]

Dying to pin is not fun, there is no interaction or interesting mechanics. They press a button and you die, the only people who enjoy pin are the ones using it

That's why so many people want it gone, it's a very unfun mechanic to cheese fights

[real pendant]

I completely agree but idk what you would do to replace it

[somber urchin]

i would think so aswell!

[undone cliff]

Better that there's counter mechanics instead of scrapping the whole thing imo

[ruby oak]

happy birthday krowwwww!!!!!!

[opaque flint]

Happy birthday @undone cliff

[rare tide]

Exactly. And people have no creativity to come up with actual solutions other than
"I tried to fight something over double my size and got slaughtered"

I know that isn't the actual complaint. But regardless.

[indigo cave]

Buff the claw attack a tiny bit, make it so allo just drags for a bit of bleed and a slow debuff instead of pinning... Rex just no, he does NOT need pin

[lucid urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/celebrate-funny-doPrWYzSG1Vao

[indigo cave]

The issue isn't a sub cera getting pinned, the issue is a few allos just jumping on you and just having to watch your creature die with literally nothing you can do about it

Dibble is especially a victim of this, both allo and rex just walk over it with pin

[blissful shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1381527501410664469/EngagingGameplayRex.gif

[lofty oriole]

Coz they already stated before that the game is based on real life simulator exactly, it's not a pvp game to balance, unless u also want them to let trodon or omni stand 1 vs 1 a rex too to balance all xD

[indigo cave]

It's literally the opposite, if the game was realistic trike and stego would 1 shot literally everything

[real pendant]

Also deino would have a higher biteforce

[blissful shoal]

its not a real life simulator, look at the existence of omni and troodon, or the drop bear herrera, or the duck beipi, or 3 ton diablo.

Its just not balanced like a fighting game, not everything needs to have a fair fight. Its balanced like a survival game, everything needs a fair chance to survive.

[indigo cave]

I just realised you misspelled supremacy lmao

[real pendant]

Wait LMAO

I’m gonna keep it like that. Its funny

[blissful shoal]

suremacy

[leaden cobalt]

Wait did I spell that wrong as well

[misty pivot]

yes

[leaden cobalt]

[blissful shoal]

yours is fine i think

you should remove the p to be suremacy too

[leaden cobalt]

Let me fix that

[sterile gulch]

Good night guys, I hope I wake up tomorrow and see a patch

[glass stump]

[forest haven]

A kind of ring game mechanism or something similar where you could buck to get out of pin and both players have to hit rings correctly to keep hold/get out would make pinning entertaining and manage its one sided-ness

[cinder cave]

Add scraping the pouncer off and make that, but if you successfully buck them off they get staggered for like a quarter second

[forest haven]

Peak

[regal notch]

what if bary doesn't fish like ptera, but instead catches elite fish

[midnight tundra]

That would be very prone to macro but still better than what we have rn.

[manic fulcrum]

I do agree that there are certain situations where it just feels really bad. But there’s also situations where I feel it’s fine. Such as Omni sneaking up on a gali, or an Allo sneaking up on a Carno, or a Rex who wore down a stego.

At least with Rex, just making the prime slower than the adult would fix most of the issues with that. It doesn’t need to run at 40km with murder sprint. With Grapple I think just increasing the conditions a bit for a pin would be fine, having to outweigh the opponent more (or through wearing down) would be nice

There is an outlier(s) though, which is Dibble and Trike who are animals designed to sit there and fend for themselfs. Currently I don’t think they even do that well. Ceratopsians in general are rather disappointing and both could use some universal buffs. Which I do have a few ideas for

[regal notch]

#general-feedback message

just throwing this out here

[forest haven]

Yeah I should

[regal notch]

no I mean the one I put there LOL

[manic fulcrum]

I just dislike the whole “PINSLOP BAD” hysteria the community has come up with because no one had a problem with it until Allo & Rex. Granted I’m not saying it’s perfect and it does need work. But instead of just fixing the few issues with it people just want to flat out remove it

[regal notch]

I think pins should result in damage if you don't methodically try to ambush so that you can't just RMB the second you cross paths, but instead have to treat it with a sense of actual ambush

[regal notch]

personally I've always had a problem with it since raptor(and troodon I should mention huh)

nobody enjoys games that are built on taking someone else's agency away, hi yugioh.

[manic fulcrum]

I wouldn’t mind raptors threshold being lowered to 50% of weight same as Allo.

Grapple thresholds should be increased as well for pins. Only needing to weigh 1kg more is ridiculous to me and it should be 150% or even 200%. The prey should be worn down by the time they are pinned, or you should be a vastly larger animal/group

[regal notch]

I think the mechanic as a whole needs polish instead of stat adjustments

[forest haven]

Yeah real I honestly love the idea of pinning but the way they executed it so far is just.. ugh
If it doesn’t line up at least have it not work. I mean seriously how is a Rex pinning something 6 feet away from where it slid to a stop. Which is just the most obvious issue with it. At least have the Dino being pinned get dragged to it looks better gosh.
I don’t even want to get into its mechanical issues.

[regal notch]

something lunges at you and you're facing it with teeth and claws and you somehow just end up on your stomach flailing and doing nothing back?... why not allow pins to have positioning so that a front pin results in the predator taking damage, side pin taking somewhat less, and from the rear actually being defenseless for more realism?

[uncut mason]

Pinning just needs some back and forth happening. Stamina levels alone ain’t cutting it

[forest haven]

I feel lucky they added that Rex takes damage when they bite trikes face

[regal notch]

and I like that, but that's become only a herbivore specific trait if they have physical spikes and in some cases like raptor pouncing a trike is just outright instant death. Some carnivores should have the ability to wear the predator down as punishment for being reckless with it rather than actually positioning prior

[regal notch]

^ this

on top of this, we see groups where one pins and another helps bite for more damage anyways.... I think that gets away with a little much without punishment if you can just pin someone point blank without thought

in no world should something pin a target, kill it, and come out well enough to repeat the same thing on another target having not taken any damage whatsoever

[uncut mason]

Pinning does leave the pinner open to attack, but that rarely happens

[regal notch]

mainliy because the hitbox people bite ends up hitting whoever's pinned anyways lol

that said, I like the sparring thing, just had a duel as a baby dibble against a baby t-rex in sanctuary and actually felt like a back n forth

felt like punishing the player for not thinking more about their target. They went for the grab instead of just biting or positioning, that let me defend myself and get headshots in return, strategic play was present instead of one sided nonsense

[sleek marsh]

Make pinning a build up attack that requires 3 successful pin attacks in a row whereupon the third actually pins

[forest haven]

A pin should be able to fail based on your opponent’s stamina (and with the bucking thing I mentioned) when you are latched on and be very punishing for the attacker just this would make it so much better
Literally anything would make it better

[regal notch]

hi Troodon(kinda), we actually sort've have this in the sense of having multiple dinos pounce a target to pin it

[uncut mason]

I agree that the requirements to initiate a pin should be more narrow. After a pin happens what about an exchange of fast random key presses to succeed on a defensive action or fail one. If both sides keep succeeding the quick actions then stamina determines the outcome

[regal notch]

do people still like quick time action events? LMAO

[pliant urchin]

Pinslop became a term after allo and rex were added but people very much had an issue with omni pin

[uncut mason]

It’s my only idea so far

[regal notch]

mash O to escape!!!!

[indigo cave]

I still think pin is fundamentally bad if it continues to have no counterplay or engaging mechanics around it for both parties

Getting pinned by omnis as a dilo or dryo doesn't feel any better than an allo pinning your cera

[pliant urchin]

Because of macros and autoclickers, can't really add a mechanic like that

[regal notch]

My take is The Isle's always taken precedent to stop and consider your surroundings, positioning, and odds of survival... pinning doesn't involve that but it needs to

[sick kraken]

i think people have more of an issue now because we know so many carnivores are gonna get pin

[regal notch]

good LOL

[pliant urchin]

You mean you don't want to spam space bar to get released from a pin!?!?!?!

[sick kraken]

once rex got it, it was no longer a long arm dino thing. it’s just every big guy

[indigo cave]

You say that as if it was a bad thing (I would definitely use an autoclicker)

[uncut mason]

Yes, this! The isle rewards strategic thinking most of the time, just need it in this area more

[forest haven]

I mean the ring game mechanism would be less inclined to macros if you had to make one ring which was changing sizes fast match up with another that changes size each successful buck which happens when you match them up

[indigo cave]

Rex pinning is indeed completely stupid and unnecessary

[uncut mason]

Could work

[sick kraken]

i think it’s chill for it to pin things 4 tons and under but yea

[indigo cave]

"uhm yes let me somehow force a quadruped as heavy as me just by using the very forward extreme of my body while simultaneously also ravaging it somehow"

[regal notch]

#general-feedback message

puts this here once more

[sick kraken]

just watch giga will have pin

[sleek marsh]

Except the exact opposite for every paleo realism and gameplay mechanic reason

[indigo cave]

No. A rex pins with it's mouth, if it's pinnings it's pinning. It should be a hard CC move, no damage on it whatsoever.

[sick kraken]

u can see the animation. it pins it with its mouth then goes in for another bite. seems fine to me

[indigo cave]

Allo and omni have free body parts to hack and slash at the prey, rex is stupid

[indigo cave]

Me when a struggling prey would get out the picosecond that jaw opens

[sleek marsh]

How would grabbing and pinning with the strongest jaw ever not do dmg

[sick kraken]

pinning things 4 tons and under is fine because that thing had no business being in your range, and if it can’t pin then rex never kills it. it just runs away. unless it fractured actually… rex don’t need pin

[uncut mason]

Being able to toss things is fun though

[indigo cave]

Precisely my point... Rex already has bonebreak to stop things from moving, pinning is so unnecessarily stupid

[sick kraken]

i really think the pinning apex should be spino. but whatever. it’s both. maybe all 3

[indigo cave]

I really think the pinning apexes should be none

[regal notch]

Rex imo has a different problem altogether

[sleek marsh]

Islanders need to remove the concept of nerfing to solve balance from their minds. Buff weaker things.

[sick kraken]

terrible game design

[indigo cave]

"if everything is broken nothing is" ahh statement

[sick kraken]

rivals has used that and it’s gone terrible. i’ve seen other games have that mentality and it just kills them

[sleek marsh]

"Its broken cuz I dont like it" ahh statement

[sick kraken]

nobody thinks it’s broken it’s just not necessary at all

[sleek marsh]

Of course it is

[indigo cave]

You cannot genuinely believe that rex is not stupidly overpowered

[sick kraken]

how is it necessary

[regal notch]

They're too common and too easy to upkeep. I feel as though apexes should be designed to be natural ecosystem threats. A t-rex should be hungier than a cera that just threw up. There shouldn't be 20 t-rexes available on the same server eating everything and just being fine, they should be struggling to find food to the point only 2-3 ever make it to sub adult period

[sleek marsh]

I wonder if or why the king of dinosaurs and greatest therapod to ever hunt would be powerful

[sick kraken]

rex has speed boost AND fracture to secure kills. yeah it also needs to pin you

[sleek marsh]

Its like saying superman is OP lmao

[sick kraken]

dude just used buzzwords that mean nothing 😭

[regal notch]

he is when thrown in a room of regular humans and that's kinda the point here.

[sleek marsh]

So you literally dont know what buzzword means

[sleek marsh]

Batman

[sick kraken]

yeah it’s the king of dinosaurs so ofc it needs to be broken. like what are we doing. it’s just the name

[regal notch]

batman's a regular human

[indigo cave]

Hard agree but I would go as far as to say that all carnivores should have a very hard time surviving. Normal ecosystems have 10 herbivores for every carnivore and the isle is almost the opposite ratio :/

[sleek marsh]

And can beat superman

[sick kraken]

if rex is just better than spino and giga because it is “king of dinosaurs” we need new game direction lmao

[regal notch]

💀 okay you're trolling, got it LMAO, we are not having the "batman prep time" argument to defend this talk lmao

[weary siren]

"There's nothing mere about that mortal"

[sleek marsh]

There's a happy medium your ilk doesn't wish to discuss because you take thinfs to extreme. Rex isn't broken or OP, pinning needs additional mechanics changes. That's it. If tex didn't have pin you wouldn't be complaining so how's it op

[regal notch]

point people are trying to make is that t-rex is already plenty strong but it was also given a tool that makes anything helpless on top of its already great top tier power

[indigo cave]

You see, I discovered a dinosaur named "king of the isle evrima" and it's a 10cm little shitter but we must honour the name and make it deal a bazillion damage while having wall and rangehacks built in

[regal notch]

true, idk anyone else who owns shark repellent

[sick kraken]

regardless of anything, making a point that rex should be op because it’s king of dinosaurs makes me think u aren’t actually willing to debate and will just repeat what ur saying

[sleek marsh]

It's not trolling and you can dismiss whatever you want when you dont actually know comics but this is the isle and Rex should be stronger than any other

[regal notch]

this was never about the comics, your analogy was comparing superman LOL, it already IS stronger than the others, it doesn't need a pin on top of that

[sick kraken]

i’d rather just balance based off what’s fun and makes sense. not because of some label someone gave it

[indigo cave]

Rex when brachi walks in (suddenly Rex has to cower in fear)

[manic fulcrum]

Yes

[real pendant]

Shant will put rex in it’s place

[sick kraken]

rex shouldent be the strongest thing because some dude called it king of dinosaurs

[sleek marsh]

No your false premise is all about "OP" nonsense which makes all your arguments irrelevant because Rex isn't "op" whatever that nonsense means. It should be the strongest dinosaur because it is the strongest dinosaur end of

[regal notch]

in any case, apexes need to be harder to make exist altogether

[indigo cave]

I'm not hopeful at all with shant and camara looking at all the crap the gave rex just cuz they felt like it

[sick kraken]

ohh okay well if that’s end of then i better quit

[sleek marsh]

Its the strongest because its literally superior in every way to all previous therapods lol

[regal notch]

I'm ngl, he doesn't understand the difference between strongest and overpowered lol, stop feeding

[crisp vector]

Did someone say Batman?

[sick kraken]

except it’s a fictional game where the dinosaurs are just not realistic

and having 1 super op thing does not make the game fun

[sleek marsh]

Thats because its arbitrary and subjective. Your overpowered is someone elses perfectly balanced

[regal notch]

that is not all how that works but you do you buddy

[sick kraken]

i’m fine with things being strong rex just has such a bloated kit it’s weird

[sleek marsh]

That doesn't mean throw out physics and reality lol

[regal notch]

that's fine, but you two aren't seeing eye to eye whatsoever and I don't think either of you will lol

[sleek marsh]

Yes, it is. Its subjective.

[sick kraken]

it does. have you seen beipi or herra

[regal notch]

🆗

[indigo cave]

"strongest dinosaur" is some hard cope holy crap

You can argue that it was the 'strongest' (whatever the hell that means) land carnivore but any marine titan or mildly large sauropod would obliterate any rex, hell anky did too

[real pendant]

I like Ceratosaurus

[sleek marsh]

What about them?

[sick kraken]

trike was also probably stronger or about equal to rex

[manic fulcrum]

I mean I agree that Rex should be the most physically strong carnivore. As I don’t see Giga nor Spino doing more raw damage than it

But that doesn’t make it the “strongest” at everything. Just in raw power as a carnivore. Something like a trike or Giga is still a threat to it

[sick kraken]

they follow physics and reality to you?

[sleek marsh]

Okay? And they will in game too how is this out of line with the game?

[forest haven]

The strongest dinosaur goes to my gym

[past dune]

Why is

[sick kraken]

yeah that’s representing with bone breaking already

[sleek marsh]

Pretty closely yes? Are you 12?

[past dune]

I'm 21 actually.

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-jackson-comments-popcorn-pUeXcg80cO8I8

[sick kraken]

the herrera and beipi follow physics and reality? awesome

[regal notch]

YOU EAT BABIES 🫵

[past dune]

I EAT BERRIES

[sick kraken]

actually cool i didn’t know either did those things irl. new info rocks

[sleek marsh]

Wanna try and stretch whatever excuse you think makes them unrealistic?

[sick kraken]

nah i think ur right actually

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/video-games-red-dead-redemption-LMpB8KTeVCvtu

[forest haven]

Have you ever seen a duck or goose without its feathers

[indigo cave]

Trike was a far 'stronger' animal. A rex could bite a trike anywhere and it would never kill the trike, a trike would stab a rex anywhere but the arms and the sheer size of the gaping hole would kill or severely disable the rex in minutes

[lost citrus]

what's wrong with that

[regal notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn1w-2bW5j4

[past dune]

Top 5 side quests.

[sleek marsh]

Rex regularly hunted trikes and could bite straight thru crests and even anky armor

[regal notch]

it's an actual crime we don't have an equivalent undead nightmare for 2

[past dune]

Real

[wraith hound]

I think i ageer

[leaden cobalt]

Hi

[past dune]

Ur funny

[sick kraken]

cucho that guys flame baiting

[forest haven]

You mean the last of us?

[sleek marsh]

Bite force physics is no joke

[past dune]

Oh boy!
Free money!

[regal notch]

not the same man 💀

[sick kraken]

i think my favorite part of the isle is how realistic dilophosaurus is

[forest haven]

Horse

[sleek marsh]

You mean Jurassic Park

[sick kraken]

no i meant the isle

[past dune]

Oh dude, I could talk all day about how realistic Troodon is. Honestly that's it's strongest aspect.

[sick kraken]

prolly

[regal notch]

I love how realistic taco is

[manic fulcrum]

Rex is an animal designed to break through walls. That’s its niche. Things like trike and Anky should be able to defend from it and be no pushover, but neither is a Rex.

What (ideally) Rex should struggle with is animals who are more mobile than it and can afford to dance around it, or use bleed to slow it down. It’s a juggernaut, and you have to play around it rather than fight through it

[wraith hound]

What in the hell is a troodon ?

[sick kraken]

it’s a troodontid

[past dune]

Why are we having a balance discussion... this is The Isle. It doesn't matter.

[manic fulcrum]

Unfortunately at the moment both dibble and trike just aren’t good in general which doesn’t help

[sick kraken]

it was more of a discussion on how rex kit of bloated then became well rex is king of dinosaurs so u need to bloat it!

[past dune]

Just play your silly dinosaur and be happy.

[regal notch]

Hacker wym, The Isle is the most balanc-

[indigo cave]

Yeah you bite through the crest good job all you did was make a angry massive bull into an even more angry wounded but not disabled bull. Rex definitely hunted Trikes but that has to be a very hungry rex to even risk it

Bitting through anky? Lol, lmao even. We have absolutely no evidence of anky predation despite coexisting with Rex

[sick kraken]

they could balance it if they’re awesome

[sick kraken]

cucho that guys genuinely flamebaiting you lol

[indigo cave]

Why is pißed off banned bruh

[regal notch]

https://c.tenor.com/CVtXMRC4BrQAAAAC/doesnt-matter-dont-matter.gif

[manic fulcrum]

I do think Rex is a bit too good at everything. The only changes I’d really make to it are A: the prime being slower than the adult & B: slightly less turning while running

[past dune]

Imagine if Rex was hard to grow.

[indigo cave]

I won't deny an opportunity to slander rex

[sick kraken]

it just has pin and speed boost and fracture. pick a prey securing ability buddy

you get 2 of those. you gotta lose one

[manic fulcrum]

When the safety net of AI doesn’t exist it is tbh.

[regal notch]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ underrated comment I tried to say earlier but people are still hype on the pin mechanic itself lol

[indigo cave]

You clearly don't get it, it needs lunge

[lost citrus]

this is all correct

[manic fulcrum]

Ai really is just a safety net for animals to endlessly grow

[regal notch]

Guys, humans should pin

[sick kraken]

yea ai needs some changing but alas. diabloceratops ai is coming

[past dune]

Only needing to eat 66% of it's weight every 2 HOURS is really not that hard to sustain AI or not.

[lost citrus]

I'm playing troodon rn, I can't even hunt AI until 50%

[sick kraken]

i don’t even know how you fix it because i actually like ai in most cases but it just makes apexes way too easy

if you cut ai in half then like omnis are prob gonna die and i don’t think that’s really necessary at all

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf isn’t that how every animal works, only needing to eat a portion of their body weight?

I would like to see hunger times have their own curves. So that a Juvie Rex could actually require constant food whereas the adult & Sub would have a slower metabolism

[sick kraken]

before you can cut AI you need to make it easier to find people

[undone cliff]

Can just make them less nutritious for higher weights

[indigo cave]

Don't allow apexes to get any diet from ai 👍

[past dune]

They simply aren't going to do that man.

[manic fulcrum]

thank you migrations for being bugged to oblivion

[regal notch]

something something migration zone @past dune

[sleek marsh]

Net guns

[sick kraken]

yea that’s an idea but it won’t starve you

[lost citrus]

I love AI for environment and aesthetics, but it is way too easy for some animals to subsist on them

[regal notch]

when humans get vehicles, the vehicles should pin.

[sick kraken]

i think they wanna make a really good game here but there’s also just been a lot on their plate

[indigo cave]

I still think ai animals could works wonders if they had random spawns and had growth times. Having 5 grown dibbles on the same spot every few minutes is so ass

[regal notch]

GUYS OH MY GOD THEY MADE IT IN THE DISCORD... THE MESSAGES, LOOK!!!! IT's TOoO LAtE

[stone tiger]

Elaborate

[past dune]

Your definition of a really good game, and their definition of a really good game are probably very different. I would view it as insulting to assume they are utterly incapable of figuring it out, I think it's just something they don't need, or want, to figure out.

[sleek marsh]

If you ram a dino into a tree or rock or wall it pins them

[sick kraken]

i think the games already very good but i see a lot of things that should be changed

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh I think just lowering the ai amount of stuff like boars, deer & turtles would be fine. But you should introduce small Ai into sanctuary’s & making foraging a universal mechanic for juvies/small carnivores. That way it’s easier to start the game, but the challenge should come from maintaining your food upkeep

[stone tiger]

How would a dinosaur pin a vehicle?

[lost citrus]

they've talked about attempting scent trails again, and even mentioned something about finding other players by scent, so it's possible we can get legit tracking

[past dune]

Goodness gracious.

[regal notch]

WE GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE, PINNING GETTING OUT OF CONTROL MAN

[sick kraken]

dondi i think does want a balanced ecosystem based off his idea for an unofficial. maybe they want new people to be able to play rex, because it’s prob the reason they bought the game.

[sleek marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-1993-tyrannosaurus-rex-t-rex-rexy-gif-7091885567997300176

[past dune]

Balanced ecosystem... of AI.

Not of players.

[sick kraken]

i think unofficials will carry us if they became more tweakable. and let us make custom maps

[indigo cave]

Yeah the potential for the game is absolutely incredible

Sadly it seems to be headed full throttle into deathmatch arena with ever more powerful dinosaurs and eventually mutated abominations

[regal notch]

we should be able to make custom dinosaurs

[sick kraken]

i looove the strains if that’s what u mean

[manic fulcrum]

Can’t wait for Hyposlop

[regal notch]

srsly what happened to this chat LMAO

[sick kraken]

if strains are treated like rex where anyone can get it because it’s awesome it’ll be a bit annoying i’m sure

[indigo cave]

(had to fit in my daily strain slander somewhere)

[manic fulcrum]

STRAINSLOP!!!! These devs just keep adding strains and it’s ruining the game. REMOVE IT!!!! STRAINSLOP STRAINSLOP

[lost citrus]

nah slang will have evolved before we ever get those

[sleek marsh]

Can't wait for all the "prime hypo Rex dominates this server" yt vids

[past dune]

It's funny each time.

[stone tiger]

She is a car mechanic

[sick kraken]

it’s crazy because metta said that unofficials can’t even choose how much ai spawns. it’s all or nothing

[indigo cave]

I genuinely cannot conceive the hype around getting server whipped by a random dude that got his rex to digievolve

[past dune]

Are you familiar with how limited Unofficials are without modding?

[sleek marsh]

So the 2x AI descriptions are just sweet lies?!

[sick kraken]

never even tried running one so no

[sick kraken]

this i don’t know. maybe?

[past dune]

You can do just about nothing.
Nothing that matters, at least.

[indigo cave]

Not being able to control how much ai spawns is crazy what

How do they do body drops?

[sick kraken]

but i don’t think half ai even solves the issue because it just creates a new one. we need like actual plugins or something so owners can really mess with how ai works

[stone tiger]

Server owners have limited control

[past dune]

The wonders of modding are... not endless, but they do exist.

[indigo cave]

So the game has modding? I'm confused now

[sick kraken]

i mean ya petits has really crazy stuff

stegosaurus body summoned to thee

[past dune]

There is no solution that can be found within the bounds of AI itself. The rest of the game would need to be drastically changed to properly accommodate it. It's easy to just reduce or turn off AI and call it a day, it's a whole other issue to have the game provide a strong experience without them.

[indigo cave]

I just realised that Poa has been missing for a few days, have you guys heard of them?

[regal notch]

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Ooh, black and yellow! Let's shake it up a little. Barry! Breakfast is ready! Coming! Hang on a second. Hello? - Barry? - Adam? - Can you believe this is happening? - I can't. I'll pick you up. Looking sharp. Use the stairs. Your father paid good money for those. Sorry. I'm excited. Here's the graduate. We're very proud of you, son. A perfect report card, all B's. Very proud. Ma! I got a thing going here. - You got lint on your fuzz. - Ow! That's me! - Wave to us! We'll be in row 118,000. - Bye! Barry, I told you, stop flying in the house! - Hey, Adam. - Hey, Barry. - Is that fuzz gel? - A little. Special day, graduation. Never thought I'd make it. Three days grade school, three days high school. Those were awkward. Three days college. I'm glad I took a day and hitchhiked around the hive. You did come back different. - Hi, Barry. - Artie, growing a mustache? Looks good. - Hear about Frankie? - Yeah. - You going to the funeral? - No, I'm not going. Everybody knows, sting someone, you die. Don't waste it on a squirrel.

[past dune]

It has had it for years.

[sick kraken]

zones are an idea that i haven’t thought thru entirely but maybe work

[past dune]

You wouldn't be able to achieve much without radically changing how they work.

[sick kraken]

i mean yea but that’s why we got a whole team of devs

[indigo cave]

What... Isn't mod support support to be coming in years?

[sick kraken]

modding being possible and supported are different things

it’s hard to work with atm

[indigo cave]

What's the difference?

[sick kraken]

if it was supported you could work with it like gmod and just do what you want. rn u gotta like jimmy stuff and its limited

if it was supported we’d have dragons basically

[past dune]

There is no official mod support, there is no modding kit, there are no tools provided, and it is not something that the game will just let you accomplish easily.

But that hasn't stopped people from trying to take apart certain parts of the game and insert their own functionality on the server end.

[sick kraken]

or entirely new zone mechanics created by a modder

[indigo cave]

so you are telling me we could have anky in game if someone tried hard enough?

[gilded palm]

unironically gmod is probably an apt comparison of the desired endpoint from what we've heard. That'd be in the future though with proper support

[past dune]

No.

[sick kraken]

no we can’t insert models or anims and stuff

[indigo cave]

[regal notch]

wym my t-rex can't have giant honbondonkeroos?

[past dune]

That would require client side modding, at the very least.

[floral junco]

I hope someone mods an acorn collection quest into the game.

[past dune]

Make it an elder requirement.
Also don't include any UI or hint to imply that you need to.

[gilded palm]

From what I heard models are possible, but anything playable is very difficult and requires more effort than most deem worth it

[indigo cave]

Mods heat up this guy's pillow

[sick kraken]

i feel like the isle needs an ideas guy who’s studied game design for a long time to help in certain problem areas

[past dune]

Nahhhhh

[gilded palm]

The last thing this game needs is an ideas guy

[sick kraken]

i would love an ideas guy

[gilded palm]

We already have too many ideas

[regal notch]

that's the whole community to Dondi, everyone believes they know best

[sick kraken]

ok most people don’t really think things thru and haven’t studied game design

[past dune]

Not even me?
The most awesomist ideas guy?

[regal notch]

including the people who have studied it

[gilded palm]

Studying game design isn't really that important at the end of the day, at least academically

[sick kraken]

if it’s someone who knows a lot about game design and is creating thought out ideas then maybe they should atleast listen

[past dune]

I've studied it, can confirm, has provided me with jack all actual value or skill when it comes to understanding games.

[gilded palm]

but also the issue is that contributing nothing but ideas is not needed nor helpful in a situation like The Isle where we have years of unimplemented concepts already sitting there

[sick kraken]

i don’t mean in college or anything just as a skill

[regal notch]

no ur getting this and ur gonna like it :^) - current state of things

[indigo cave]

I haven't studied game design nor thought things through fully but I'm confident that unkillable anky would be a great success (I just want to be a point of interest and shelter other players that just want to chill)

[misty pivot]

omni rock

[gilded palm]

While more reasonable, I think it's a bit unfair to assume the team doesn't have that skill collectively at this point. They all play games other than the Isle, and have been working on the game for a while

[sick kraken]

this is where we disagree but i think maybe it will be unkillable lol

[past dune]

Hiring someone who is just gonna tell you to "scrap this and shift the game's direction to make something else" would be just about the least productive thing they could do.

[indigo cave]

GreatSuccess.gif

[sick kraken]

i think they are skilled but we keep seeing stuff just kinda pan out poorly

[gilded palm]

Having a good concept is a good first step, so there's that lol

[gilded palm]

Having better ideas wouldn't change execution of those ideas, then

[past dune]

Hmm

[indigo cave]

I certainly hope it is nearly unkillable, in my perfect world only troodons bitting the belly and sauropods stomping anky should be able to kill it

[sick kraken]

ideas guy can also be a coder btw. i just think there’s gotta be someone who’s studied player behavior and can predict how things will go here

[gilded palm]

On paper, many of the game's concepts are very solid imo, and things lacking execution are either down to time constraints or cut corners, neither of which can be solved by a more robust design document

[gilded palm]

Sure, but at that point your job description isn't "ideas guy" it's "programmer"

[sick kraken]

i mean yeah it’s programmer who has more insight into these things. it would be useful

[gilded palm]

Though also of anyone the devs are probably among the best suited to draw conclusions about player behaviour from the data gathered by official servers

[indigo cave]

I feel like that job is what we do, players play the game more than devs

[sick kraken]

someone along the way coulda said hey maybe rex doesent need 3 kill securing tools. unless the objective was just make awesome power fantasy guy. which i think is likely

[past dune]

The data can tell lies.

[sick kraken]

so much terrible advice everywhere

[gilded palm]

given that any data gleaned by community servers is inherently shifted by their individual rules, moderation, any addons to their servers, etc, while players are limited to their individual perspective or the perspectives of those around them

[gilded palm]

Sure, but I think having that data is still better than not when trying to draw conclusions about player habits on official servers as a whole

[past dune]

mhm mhm

[gilded palm]

You can't treat it as the gospel end-all-be-all, but it'd be silly to throw it out entirely off the fear of it not being entirely accurate

[indigo cave]

But have you considered that Rex means king? And that it's on at least 2 whole films? Checkmate spinofan

[sick kraken]

that’s true but the issue is just lack of player interaction, which leads to the whole ai issue. there’s people with ideas…

[gilded palm]

it also probably provides far better information about player movement and the like than other forms of observation could allow