#isle-discussion
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I just think strains are generally out of place and not needed
Its a great concept but I dread how they will execute on it.
I really want to snap a rex of a beach
thank you paul "john" evrima
I do like the concept of strains changing how some dinosaurs play though.
I’d much rather have my imaginary arctic dlc that I envisioned exclusively in my brain
based delusions
They aren't and I'm tired of everyone pretending mixpackers make it horrible.
Damn, god forbid that if I spot a large group of 15 goobers chilling I'm not able to pick their weakest member without the others interfering 
I don’t like the “chill” gameplay I like surviving.
Mammalian megafauna, and several existing dinosaurs with feathered reskins for cold survival and a temperature system
Without survival this game has zero purpose in my mind.
Yeah with hopefully not too many rules chaning every hour (unless its a realism serv with profiles I guess
) and hopefuly no admin abuse, drama or, ''im friends with the admin so x rules dont apply to me.''
Only thing that makes officials bad atm is cheaters and lack of regrowths, perhaps global chat. Everything else is fine
It’s not a pvp game it’s not a pve game it’s a survival game.
without PVP, what does that make path of titans
uhhhhhh…
Modding and collect sticks…
We need a balance of PVP and survival
The thought is nice isn't it.
Yeah
Shame.
This is why I’m excited for minmi
You lost me.
What?
I'm much more of a chill laid back player and largely dislike PvP but I wish that survival was a proper thing
By what age was it do u have to do the quests
75%
Nanuqsaurus + Yuty and idk some other cold biome dinos that i dont know
You have to get them done by 75%
But they start the second you spawn in.
Yesss
Try and get prime?
From the moment you spawn.
You know if you succeeded by the age of 75%
Alr thanks
I remember I used to play a dinosaur game but to counter mixpacking and mega packing they made it so your Dino’s would get stressed and need more food and water
Theri, beipi, austro, ovi, etc can stay as is
That only works to prevent random instances of mixpacking, and even then, just survival requirements makes it a soft deterrent, or an additional challenge at worst.
For coordinated groups that doesn't really solve anything, you need to take more drastic measures for that.
Really the end goal shouldnt be the absolute prevention of mixpacking, but severely mitigating it to the point where moderation becomes feasible.
What if we just…remove officials and make unofficial the servers🤔
Oh i like quetz
Coordinated groups are sore losers but then again it's beyond stupid to punish actions on servers with no rules
I understand that it's frustrating but that's the price of no rules. Either have no mixpacking rules or don't punish them
That doesn't improve the game at all, that's just the cowards way out. Instead of confronting the issue, hiding behind other people managing it for you.
True but official servers don’t do anything
How would you implement things to prevent mixpacking?
If you have ideas that is.
Which I notice when you speak of the subject you usually have a vague idea at least lol
cough Literally what Dondi wants
Its incredibly pathetic.
Also this is a passion project, the only money being made from the isle is buying the game.
The official servers serve no purpose but to be an anarchy server with no rules
I won't say here.
I'm fine with both regulating and leaving mixpacking unopposed but punishing them without rules against it is just nonsense
What’s people issue with mixpacking😭 it’s a Dino game and some of us have friends to play it with
Oh
Official servers serve as the intended experience and thereby should be the best experience the game can provide in accordance with the developers vision, and you cannot convince me that mixpacking is part of that vision.
Then play the same species
They talking about the murder mixpacks
But the intended experience is survival and all official servers have become are mixpack fests in the same areas
Or at least don’t actively protect each other
Having a “chill” environment ruins the point of the game
Hot take
I would not mind if certain species could group together in a sort of symbiotic relationship
Why should we all be forced to play the same species if we don’t want, and why would I not protect my friends? It’s not my job to cater to the solos
There are two sides of mixpacking
One group are sore losers running around murdering everyone in sight
The other kind is what I actively do all the time, we just chill together feeding on AI, plants and the occasional clown that tries to take on us
Not hot take, Beipi and Deino are a great example of players already doing that
I’ve been yelled at for expressing the idea before 
Can I DM someone to post a general feedback message for me? I clicked enter without adding the pic and now I’d have to wait 6 hours…
Other Dino’s like minmi and dryo will also work similar and would be good to form a symbiotic relationship
Real. Many of the people I play with love carno and raptor, I loath them. So no, I'm not going to grind my ass against a cactus just to "not mixpack"
Ragebait used to be believable.
And we already have the idea of small AI’s like compy cleaning deino teeth!
It’s concept but still possible, I think having symbiotic relationships within certain species is great
It would be another case of solving the problem by uprooting the rotten tree more than calling it coward, that would be simply a diminutive or even pejorative/exaggerated term to a certain extent. Even though the argument (at least part of it) is valid if someone wants to continue with officials, which is the case of some people
How so? I love to see my stego waddle around and enjoying the scenery, if I have a few chill randos with me that's just pure perfection for me
I played on a unofficial server a while back with minimal rules, like no megapacking and some mix packing and other basic rules. Felt like a official serv at the same time and no annoying events, best serv ever. hallelujah
And that’s fine but I mean on the scale of the entire server just…sitting around
That’s usually the case with officials.
What... Officials are a slaughterhouse as are 99% of servers wdym
Well we must have wildly different servers.
All I’ve ever seen in officials is just a large mixpack that kills anyone that isn’t with them and I think it ruins the survival aspect.
Yesterday a Rex pretendet to be frendly and baited me and my Brother both Prime Rex with "comme there are allos Help me Fight them" we did Cross the River and he Had 4 crocolide Friends waiting for us
Mad unfortunate
I don’t like people that fake being friendlies.
BOOOOOOOOOOO
All you have ever seen? What... Yeah I won't pretend they don't exist and they are pathetic but the overwhelming majority of players are either solos or random goobers that met 30 minutes ago
Rumple I thought you were an owl not a ghost
u should've jumped him before u got to the water LOL
Unbalanced, and not honorable
Well then again we don’t have the same experiences.
Not honorable he says😭 buddy we’re dinosaurs
I was wondering how do they even Play together i never Trust anyone Form now in in this game on eu2 ist a Trike with 4 Prime rexes Always at sanctuary the Trike baits other trikes to a Trap where the rexes are waiting
Trust nobody is a good mindset
As long as mixpacks are defensive I wholeheartedly support them
I like vibing mixpacks, if you're just chilling, sure, but meta combos for combat are obscene
@indigo cave
Agreed. It doesn't seem like that's what this guy is doing tho
are the bushes fixed?
Cucho, look at ts
I’m very anti-mixpack I think having symbiotic relationships like beipi with deino is good but mixpacking I just think is stupid.
Idk what I'm looking at
I should clarify, I am a hypocrate, I do mixpack on occasion when playing with other admins, but it's bad when other people do it
Uuuuuuuuuuuuh +40 rexes
Symbiotic relationship dryo 🙏
PLEASE
Symbiotic relationship dryo with minmi.
Would work perfectly
Does Simeone know when new Dinos comme its boring playing over and ober the Same i dont Count galisamus thats Just useless
Me when the dryo snitch mutation arrives
50 tons dryo plz
As per rule 10, we don't know when new things are coming
Same, I think the only solution is either quit the game or play on server with rules :/
idk maybe take a break from the game while u wait?

Nope but I estimate the update/hordetest will be around mid-late march
nerfs u
How I wish there were actual symbiotic relationships...
I play stego a whole lot, if I see anyone alone and/or not fg I will 2 call and dance for them until they trust me, then act as a bit of their bodyguard until they leave, sleep or we find more chill goobers and expand the group

i have a better idea
Dang, cucho is cooking (probally)
if so I will destroy the world
Pretty sure it’s incredibly implied.
Me anky bullets weak
And I’m perfectly fine with anky and minmi and pachy with the little smaller ones
As Don said, imagine a 2 dryo translating between 2 herbi groups and are making things up
and minmi isn't much different from a baby anky
Mutation to let you speak to related species
Mimicry?
I like Minmi and Anky
Two herbi groups making up 😳
No, that was supposed to be troodon's thing, just like, a dibble and a trike chatting
No, Dryo specific mutation
I'm a very mature adult 👍
Me too
glorp
Me too
Liars
Then…why isn’t troodon doing that
I would never
You are a baby go do your homework

Lyre
What age do u start declining
I gonna bite your ankles
no ur owl
If you are frail elder 75%
If you are prime 87.5%
I would never
(offensive)
I don’t really like the elder system I like prime elder as a thing but frail elder just feels…kinda mean? I mean you spent all that time growing your Dino just for it to be useless
🙂↕️
Wich dino can Beat Rex when both adults in 1v 1
Trike (Trike)
Nothing
Entomb and get a more powerful deino instead of struggling
Trike
Almost forgot entomb was a thing.
I would make it so you can entomb at 75%, that you never ever, even as frail drop stats and that you can nest indefinitely at 100%
Not even galisamus or whats the Thing called
…gallimimus
Yeah Trike i know but is there No other May stego ?
Make it like 90% and then I'd agree
I am speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
Stego probably not
Just to die in the first half an hour wasting 12+ hours
👍
He can 1 v 1 Rex easy
hypsi
Stego can mess up Rex but not kill.
stego can bleed out rex
Usually after the stego is already dead tho
Stegos too slow for it to be a viable strategy
What about the one wich spits in you and you puke 🤔 AS a Rex Player its death sebtence when your food Drops below 15% and you cant eat
dibble
damn u
Cerato?
It gets pinned by Rex
Prime Cera are amazing at killing fresh subs tho
I love seeing my teacher with bright white hair use gen z slang, this is awesome
make cera miserable plz
LOL??
What did they just say
Idk wich one IT IS last time a Dino did spit on me and i did vomit and IT almost killed me because Rex ist a very hungry Guy 😂
My pronoums are B/M/W
“Undercover” cop
Spit on you..??
Was it tiny?
But hypsi spit shouldn’t make you vomit
real
skibidi
He's used "geeked about 50s jet technology" "depressing af"
I never to Check it
its so funny
rumple delete this guy plz
Only dinosaur that can make others vomit is Cera, their bite and bacteria makes players vomit
67 singlehandedly making the world hate it over skibidi
IT was big AS me when i was at Like 40% growth maybe IT did bitte me
I hope you get stuck in a room with a pachy player.
Oh for sure Cera then, they’re scary
Whats the full Name of cera ?
He is lively for it being 8:30 in the morning
Ceratosaurus
Ceratosaurus
ceratosaurus nasicornis
Ceratopsian
The skibidi song at least was catchy
67 is just ass
Why is the slow mode 15 seconds.
My fast typing responses are being hindered
Ceranthony
I hate you with every fiber of my being
real ngl
its so stupid its funny
This is the only correct answer
Join my crusade to remove slowmode comrade
Isle lore reference
k
Hate.
If you combine 3 ceras into one, you get a triceratops
NO LORE
Rumple can you lower the slowmode to 10s pretty please? 🥺
Ceratoceratops
Isle lore is everywhere if you're delusional enough
no, triCERAtops
ACTUALLY,cera already have 3 horns
The Isle has NO LORE
You ever worshiped a machine before?
Stegosaurus is asexual because it impaled Allo saurus in the crotch
Mods, cut their fingernails just slightly too short
Yeah I used to worship my printer.
No, Allo is asexual as it was hitted in the crotch
Funny you say it like that
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
You are allo (pejorative)
i worship the omnissiah
This is pretty much robo quetz, so I'll allow it
Mods make him feel like there’s a hair in his mouth but he can never reach it and pull it out.
You are stego (offensive)
Calm down satan
I really like this gif because that snake is not sure what to think
They're just chilling
You play pachy. (INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE)
@vital onyx magnalia

its an old meme, but a good one
NO GODDAMN WHEY
YOU PLAY CERA (offensive af)
Incredibly offensive statement.
@indigo cave Read rule 5
Damn not allowed? 😔
was the omni nerf necessary to be this hard
Cucho that wasn’t very sigma of you my skibidi.
Cringe
YES
no u (i win)
You read rule 12
(joking)
normal pounce does more bleed than bleed pounce it makes no sense
you fooled me
That seems like an oversight
but normal pounce is bleed pounce
whats bleed pounce then
Do u think a cero can starve a adult Rex with vomit?
Given time yes
It's not really NSFW, as in nothing is shown. It's a brief tale of workplace abuse and repressed homosexuality 😔
If it manages to not get pinned
Yes, in theory
there is damage pounce and bleed pounce
and there is normal pounce
you said the bad word
there was a forbidden word in there thats why I think
no?
Which one? (Genuinely)
yes
No.
Rule 5 is very blanket and basic, just try and keep anything remotely illicit out
allosaurus?
ummm suchomimus
yes
Cera
Alright I will keep it in mind
Ian
what
Wait omnis bleed was nerfed in these patches?
do you know how pounce works at all
PepperFerret
There are 13 year olds here so it's best to just be absolute about it
Not after this update I guess
they added little damage to right click pounce but in exchanged gutted its bleed
I’m not sure if the is was mentioned or not but damage & Bleed will ramp up the longer you hold it
Are they here now?
Water and mud should be much murky while also not allowing deino to see from underneath so it has to get creative with it's outlook spots
I thought before this omnis bleed was accidentally increased a metric ton though. Something like 7 or 8x as much
its not mentioned, just 10 seconds of demonstration
seems safe to swim
but (probally) im the youngest here
We should make #isle-discussion-adults where we can swear 🥺
still the pounce thats supposed to be bleed focused is doing less bleed damage than the pounce you dont press anything for
Look at my cat.
That sounds absolutely horrendous, the adults are worse than the children sometimes
That’s a good cat
Mine now steals it
8.5/10 very rotund
Afaik not holding lmb or rmb doesn’t ramp up either.
Holding Lmb ramps your damage over time, Rmb ramps your bleed over time, and last I checked the maximum value is VERY high
So its an overnerf now. Ok.
Very polite, give them headscritches
This is true and quite saddening at times
They like the chin scratches more
its now very low apparently
An aristocrat I see
I know, it was a joke, should have put an /j on it
Can someone nerf omni again plz?
Don’t you mean aristocat
Homie caught the setup flawlessly
Meanwhile my cat likes biting my head
If I get close to pet her she gets really happy and doesn’t know what to do with herself
So clearly gentle though VERY high energy biting is necessary
hello, A.I can die from bleeding?
My most advanced brain activity:
When they feel like it
Can we have an entire channel dedicated to posting your pets.
Omg yes
Again, if you are holding rmb, the bleed would surpass the amount you are doing by not holding it at all, and it doesn’t take that long to ramp up as long as you don’t get thrown off
So a starting value might be lower, but the maximum value is FAR higher than anything you’d do by not holding either button
rex
Nitro boosters channel exists
I feel threatened.
I think he had too much leg day.

I miss having nitro to see people’s pets
where devblog 66?
There is a secret pets channel the devs don't want you to know about
Poorshaming smh
-# good
We don't usually get december devblogs
I will cheese you to death
I just boosted where’s my pet channel.
ok
@oblique geyser
RUDE
Are russian people a real thing...?
no u

yes


Yay
I love minmi
He has 5 warrants for his arrest
NOOOO
He sells performance enhancing drugs to Austro
The loathsome, abhorrent creature plots mercilessly behind a vacant smile and soulless eyes
I still love him 
You would 

Shantungosaurus as the next herbivore apex would be nice
the biggest non-sauropod herb
You're gonne get an oversized hedgehog and you're gonna FLIPPIN like it
I love Shant but i feel we should have something big enough to kill it first, like Giga. Spino might fit that role though
spino is in the roster already
The upcoming one yea, so if it does fit a good role in being able to fight Shant it shouldn't be too far away
Sorry brother, that spot is going to someone much cooler
Though i suppose we're getting Cama soon, so Shant could be anywhere on the list tbh
I hate sauropods gameplay wise but it will be cool to see them on the island after so many years
Target area
honestly I think shant will be on the next batch
I kinda hope so, i like Shant
same
Slow and steady gameplay 🔥 🔥 🔥
We must give this thing some medieval armor to protect it
it would be so cool to see camara in delta
i just want to know if a pteranodon can sit on its head
Chain mail hood
I wish ptera could land on/latch onto other players. That'd be fire
what are the grow times for this thing?
Long. Like quit your job long
what raptor skins do people like using?
wowza
I always go for rock colors with a sandy underbelly because I spend a lot of time at the beaches near the rocks
Hi all , please let me know when we can see humans in the game
Till then going to sleep
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but did Don mention the possibility of more permanent injuries during one of his more recent streams or am I making things up?
I don’t have an answer but I hope it is yes
What kind of injuries are we talking about
Cause i don't want to walk around with a broken leg half my dinos growth
I don’t think he went in depth if he did reference it
The Isle?
They already have deinosuchus
This is the perfect response, thank you
That's anxiety not depression
What about playing deinosuchus
Galli is anxiety
That's narcissism
he said he might think about it, cause players love fighting willy nilly too much iirc
since we have anxiety we should get epic dino (spinosaurus)
Or giga ?
that too
iirc it was said in reference to Quetzal
If only it came sooner 😔
"no one worries about missing an eye forever"
What if they add brain damage
the community will mod it in for them, theyre basically swimming in it
U got fractured in skull and now u have brain damage till death
Player loses eye
FOV shortens and night vision struggles
Player loses both of legs
.. congratulations ur a worm now
Man I just lost my head total bummer
Or loosing hearing
What if the and the and we the and how about the
I'm Barack
I’m Paul
Hello Paul how are you
Craving minmi
Do you enjoy neurotypical smalltalk?
I’m “Neurodivergent” but I do like small talk
Does Carno's headbutt do bleed?
I don’t think so.
Too neurodivergent for neurotypicals and too neurotypical for neurodivergents?
No I have the Dr house autism.
Hell yeah tism unite
It doesn't
It does fracture though.
Give carno headbutt internal bleeding 🗣️
What if servers had tonnage limits instead of playercount limits? As in, a server could host 1000 hypsi but like 20 rex
….tonnage?
at what % does rex unlock fracture damage?
can you grab 2 of the same mutation and stack them?
Total amount of tons, weight
oh
Anyone playing Carno? How is it playing on the island with allo and rexes ?
Like a server could hold a combined 500 tons (?) in any combination, a bazillion hypsis or a few apexes
I think the petite pieds system is better
What do they do?
A select amount of people being the first to get on them or patreon bullcrap?
Most unofficials have pop control
nah you can get em for free you have to be patient to wait for some ppl to die with the species you want
they need bigger AI for the rex
Okey that's acceptable
When like 20-30 etc people spawn as rex for example, the species automatically removes itself from the selection screen
If you are already a rex on the server, you can join the server even if the species is locked. It's just about spawning in
…you can donate to patreon to be able to unlock certain species with the sole exception of rex and trike
You can also be nested in as a locked species
Okay adding unkillable trike ai this instant
yes there’s actually a lot of nesting on the server
Pop control makes the game play feels much more natural, there is more diversity and not just APEXES everywhere
I actually donated to the patreon so I can unlock stuff like allo and deino
i wish more servers would use it
na it’s worth it
I used to think you were cool Paul...
listen man I’m gonna be able to unlock Bary/austro/kentro at will when they release
Hacker losing their last remaining hope on all of us lmfao
This is insanity.
No it’s Asperger’s.
Just play on another server holy hell.
I can't understand how Petits fell so far...
Actually, yeah I can.
I like petit it’s a good server
I hate petits
I hate myself.
I never liked petits once I learned more than 2 things about it
I haven't played in Petits
good
why does everyone hate it all the sudden
I'm so sad the freaking neoNaCl started using Asperger's as a point of pride, it was such a cool name... Please use level 1 autism
I just want a good unofficial server man..
I gotta try out better official.
Im hearing good things.
who is neonacl..
Did it survive more than a week, does anyone know?
Petit is still very much alive it averages 400 players
it's a good one, hacker.
I don't want to say the word not to get silenced, nationalsocialists
I hate species pop control and 400 players on the map.
Oh hell yeah
Whenever you try tell me how it is, I don’t got the time for the isle atm lol
How does anything grow with 400 players on the same server…
yeah you'll get yeeted by the automod.
both of those are good things tbh.
the increased player density actually makes the map populated
You should try the new PvE server, I'm sure you will hate it 🙂↕️
You have been led astray, Paul.
did they fix the game?>
PvE server?
Yeah it's very much not ideal... I was silenced for a day I wasn't one 
What part?
I don’t like RCON they are kinda annoying
You can't hunt other players?
i heard it broke yesterday and no one could play
Oh, lemme check.
Yeah, pure chill server where PvP is strictly prohibited but all dinosaurs are available as AI to beef with and there are so many
It’s fixed now
wooohooo
Woah that sounds like fun
..that actually sounds pretty peak
I do enjoy it greatly
what’s the server called?
How do you know it's AI and not another player?
Can i spit at people with hypsi?
AI are very brightly red coloured
yes hold alt.
Sadly I am the type of person who enjoys meaningful player interaction. So it's probably not for me.
Oh.
Yeah that's why I said you would hate it 
I mean on the pve server
I feel like playing hypsi on a PVE server isn’t the brightest
If I wanted to play a singleplayer game, The Isle would not be my first, or even in my top 10 choices.
I forgot the exact same, let me get to my computer to get on it
Although I'm sure if you search PvE you can find it
Hypsi is so much fun wdym
I think of it as Co-Op, killing rexes for small carnivores is peak
I didn’t say it wasn’t fun I’m saying that it probably won’t do well on a high AI server with all Dino’s being able to be AI
I'm not seeing the point.
Ah i see
Let's get a group together to go the fight neuro spino raid boss 
Yeah that's alright, I think it's absolutely peak and wanted to share that's all
What’s the PVE server called?
Is anyone experiencing issues with plants? Im eating so much but getting almost no food (grazing give more) and literally no diets a, b, y?
Let me get on my PC :dispair:
I think they're bugged rn
Yet again I underestimated the power of Dinosaur flavored Autism. People will really be happy with anything as long as you get to look at Dinosaurs.
I dont want to lose my first prime ever 🙁
I kinda just get interested in things for a month and then get bored
Yes. That's why I'm so adamantly against whatever the hell strains and 'humans' are
Dinosoils are cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AuDHD homie?
The server is good other than the fact that the population is taking a bit to hop off. Quite literally the only rules are just “don’t megapack, don’t mixpack”
yeah that’s normal
Time to hack on it 😎
I've been playing on a streamer's server with similar rules. It's been fun 
(the joke is that hacking is not stated to be banned, I'm a comedic genius)
Yeah. If you didn't figure it out yet, we will consume anything as long it has dinosaurs 😭 any normal gamer wouldnt touch a game that fatals 4 times in an hour or if when a very basic mechanic doesnt work such as eating the bush. But we dont care, we hit play, we see dinosaurs and yeah.
Ok well obviously not that either
I used to think this community consisted mostly of people who want a survival game. Turns out I was completely wrong, it's actually just crammed full of people who are only here for the dinosaurs and are vitriolically opposed to even slightly challenging gameplay.
Player interaction?
Sounds like immersion broken to me. 😮💨
My standards are too high.
I lowkey wish it was a norm
I’d say there’s still a fair amount of people who do want a PROPER survival experience
I honestly never thought of it that way
More and more I get the sense that is just the minority.
I mostly came to The Isle because Ark's Primal Survival never became a thing and I was so excited for it
Is der goin to be a january devblog
To be fair I did come to isle initially because Dinosaur. But when evrima started out I did start to want more of a proper survival experience
Also because I got a PC and remembered this game existed
I mean the problem is that even the absolute atricious patches or states of the game gets defended even if you critic it normally. Hard to give proper feedback. Same goes the other way though, some people will hate on everything. Both toxic positivity and negativity is consuming this community.
My friend showed me a video from defeatpete in high school and I thought it was cool
Should be
Where's Anky?
I came to the isle because YouTube recommended me a video criticising the isle and my dino tism forced me to buy it
I remember watching Anthomnia videos of somewhat early Isle
Oh I wonder if I can guess the one...
It lives in our hearts
I came to the Isle because of the promise of another survival game featuring dinosaurs. The playing as the dinosaur part was honestly surprising to me, and that swung the door open for a whole new idea of what a survival game could look like. For the most part I always thought of the dinosaurs as flavor for the real focus. Then I realized that the dinosaurs could be a medium for a new type of survival focus.
Shame that never actually happened though.
IGP is who I watched for isle
Which one are you thinking of? Genuinely asking
omg you're right

Icycaress and riot were the ones I watched mostly.
I dislike people that make isle content for views, authenticity is important
I wish it became official and playable on console at the time
ahh yes the clickbait king
I saw the Isle at gaming beaver first in 2017.
Everything you say makes too much sense and I don't like it.
Indeed
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Classic
Sadge
Oh dear….. not him
Deleting just in case
He never responded to my response btw.
Very sad.
What was your response?
What is this now lmao
Lemme DM you the video.
Ok
What? This is old
I don’t think he cares about the isle enough to keep going with that lol
I cannot tell if this is a compliment of a jab but logic is cool so thanks

How old? The vid was posted today
That mechanic has been in for… a little less than a year? I think?
Omni's pounce has 2 variables. Once you pounce you can hold LMB to deal raw dmg but not bleed, if you hold right click you will mostly do bleed dmg
i'll have to redo it so it's less crunchy one of these days
The igp isle era lol
Yay Anky 
Makes isle video: WORST GAME EVER
Is given plenty of criticism about how a lot of his takes (while not inherently wrong) were only partially correct
Leaves.
Basically you could sum up his video as: 1/4 The new player experience is bad ✅ . Everything else: 3/4 ❌
Lol I know im a raptor guy

The effects is what im referring to. Neutral pounce does more bleed now than RMB
Ah, then idk. Might be a bug or something
Is that accounted for the ramp up or the flat off the pounce tick
I think in an attempt to adjust the bleed they mixed up the Neutral and RMB values
No
I think they tested 2 stamina ticks
Indeed.
I genuinely think the video is a pretty good essay and most of what he brings up is true. However the video is for non isle players and that's the entire point, the isle stopped being a game he enjoyed and thus can no longer recommend it
Well that'd probably do it then
They’re have to have the bleed ramp up with rmb to get a good idea.
Because sure your initial amount may be more, but is it in the long
nah hes saying the values are new
It wasnt my test, so idk
Apparently it was only tested for 2 stam ticks💀
Trying to get Osteophagic, I broke my legs on purpose, ate bones and now we shall see soon
RMB got mega-nerfed, but it still does more bleed than normal pounce
although it’s pretty useless now😂
This was a kouga video correct?
Yes
Are the pounce values not the same throughout the entire pounce?
in Kouga vid it showed RMB did more bleed but by like 0.5% 💀
u might as well save ur stam and do a regular pounce at that point
It did less
I dont know. But i would check with anything if there is a ramp up mechanic. Cause we already have that with stam regen for example
i needa rewatch it
it’s weird tho cause omni wasn’t even in the patch notes, surely that’s a bug
Just to save you a click
wait so it did less bleed but more normal damage
that’s confusing
I mean waaay before raptor did used to have a more dmg/bleed for the first seconds(it was a called tap pouncing) and it was removed to incentivise people to latch on for longer
it actually gets worse the lower their health
huh... I wonder if my busted attempt at SSGI is what broke the graphics of the game
they really needa just full focus on these Pin Pounce Grapple mechanics for a good 2 weeks😂😂😂
It always seems to be two extremes with game mechanics, useless or OP. They have trouble finding middle ground.
regular pounce isn’t too crazy, pinning & the whole 20% stamina/health mechanics are when stuff hits the fan
i thought omni grapple was in a pretty decent spot (outside of pachy) before rex HT
Yeah
the reason omni isn’t as bad is because it’s small tho
We're pretty glass
I mean due to bucking, pouncing was never stronger than rn. U can empty ur full stamina on someone as an omni without falling off
and then they’re talking about having grapples for Spino & Sucho, i hope they find a middle ground before even considering giving those behemoths a grapple
Trees not knocking, too
Inb4 Spino is a saltwater dino
Yeah. Only rocks + water. If you are anywhere else, youre fried
most definitely
Dondi gonna revamp the entire map to fit Spino & Sucho 
too late
#recode
Yeah, pin/pounce/bucking needs to be properly implemented before adding more of it. Thankfully the community suggested many good ideas by now. Well tbf basically anything is better than the current implementation of it
guys i had the echoes of extinction admins beg to me donate...
here's the question though.
is it still bugged when carno's are using rmb
and😂 what u tellin us for
Good question, because Carno has been a staple food of my pack since Spiro, but we see few of them nowadays
i've been having to run an allo with raptors.
carno got old, very simple and straightforward dino
Hmm, okay, I fixed the ground fog but I managed to tank my framerate.
carno is the ole reliable for all dino games
Was the grass render distance fixed with any of those evrima patches
the game "rivalling" the isle is begging for money
Well... yeah, they're trying to get crowdfunding to go into full swing development.
anyone here who could help me with a settings question?
Carnotaurus is at its strongest rn
that’s how development goes, u tryna come in here being messy
I see a lack of screenshots to back that up
like the discord admins? bruh
But welcome to Isle Discussion
wait really?
bro came to isle general chat to gossip
^^
its still a really crappy thing to do
30 players online and they're begging for money and when i said i can barely afford to live myself one said "so do i but i magaed to scrape some"
🤣
even if there isnt its funny
honestly hacker the issue wasn't really the ground fog.
the problem is that its almost always happening.
for instance on us13 us6 there's almost always no sunlight. it's either raining 60% of the time or foggy 35% the other 5% is when its sunny.
no, it’s not lol. the isle players want dino games, they’ll help
Need NV on practically all day
The fog isn’t as horrible as the storms imo
Fog I can still easily use my sense of hearing
Storms take out everything. Especially at night
facts
being a dilo is so bad now, ur at ur peak during night but it’s always storming and foggy so u can’t see ur prey
which i don't think is the intended result.
also i understand that omni needed the bleed tick reduced. but it's been over reduced.
a normal pounce now does more then straight bleed.
This was always the case whenever they introduced a new type of weather. Its cool af, but they overdo it so essentially it becomes just an annoyance and people get to the point where they rather only have clear sky -sunny.
Too much like BoB
oh no i don't mind the storms and etc. they just need to tone it back.
from what i've been hearing its due to the amount of pz's that have been eaten.
or the amount of diet of herbie's that have eaten.
Thats what im saying. We like it but it gets too much cause theyre too frequent. I love the fog, I love the rain/thunderstorm. Except it happens 6 times in an hour of gameplay
not to mention night vision is horrible with the new weather system
DAMMIT THE NOISY GRASS IS BACK
I thought I fixed that back when I was adjusting AO 
(I have no idea what I'm doing)
Pfft
whitenoise grass
I am mere minutes away from downloading reshade, loading a denoiser, and calling it a day.
It would be hilarious if a grass patch came out today
This is a very interesting way to learn development troubles
So negative
Its almost as distracting as the shadows, materials, and reflections, but I've thrown in the towel on those already.
Oh, no, I already fixed that.
What caused it, I’m curious
Or at least fixed it
Breathing?
I think it was my botched attempt at SSGI, I reset all of that and it went back to normal.
The fog required me to turn certain things with lumen back on, but I can adjust those to be less impactful, so it'll be fine.
can i ask what setting makes the lightnings flash lights instead of only being just in the sky?
No setting, the game just does that
Fog, Water, and SSR are all acting mostly normally again.
Sadly my fps is mega turbo ass because I still need to tweak lumen more.
What’s the status of the game now? Alive or deceased
evil lumen
Also I still need to touch up the brightness because good lord I can't see anything without nv
Sometimes it works decently well at creating a fairly low contrast look, but most of the time it's just bad.
ik i just want to know what setting in game makes the diff between the lightning being just in the sky and actually flashing lights across the whole screen
There is not a setting in the game to change that.
I saw omni bleed got nerfed
why canni still has no requirement
well something has to affect it bc i have my settings on low and the lightnings r not flashing
Are you talking about looking at the sky and looking at the ground and the lighting will change?? I believe that’s an engine bug iirc
I love this smh
no i mean that if my friends stream the game the lightning generate a mini sun for a sec xd but when iam in a storm everything stays dark and i only see the lightning in between the clouds
Ohhh so you’re not getting illuminated by the lightning when it flashes during the thunderstorms?? Interesting
do they have lumen on?
got the vomit skins as well, idk how people play those unofficals
It's a PvE server, we are just chilling
whats da server?
couldnt do a pve server either but i can understand the appeal to some players
the mixpack wioth their little blue apparition
Well, that's awkward...
What the
Come join us
wait
see i've seen this flying super high as ptera. over the ocean it's freakyyyy
lowk yall wanna play some troodon?
i think so but i swear some of them have it turned off
Don't know if I'm late to this topic but has anyone else been having trouble closing the game?
Not entirely sure what would be causing it because I reset everything that was supposedly causing it
does anyone have the stats for Pt normal adult and prime?
ITS BACK
im joining lowk yall wanna play some troodon?
did I jinx you
I feel like I jinxed you
I think you jinxed me
yes thats what i mean iam trying to find what settings to change that could turn it on but if its just lumen i think ill just learn to live without it
I want Protoceratops!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm going to stay on this stego until entombing
aw....nobody plays troodon
I want Ovi and Proto tbh.
Dies of peak
Minmi.
Minmi I want it too
Yay minmi
so wait, Isle Legacy had all those dino’s within 4 years
Indeed it did.
but also this is alot higher quality then legacy
Yay minmi
For most intents and purposes they were very easy to make compared to Evrima. There was not much to each playable back then.
fair enough
The entire legacy roster amounts to about tenos in regards to completeness
roster worth as much as one dinosaur 😔
dont have my glasses on
thought you said "this is alot higher quality than leprosy"
man leprosy was so low quality.
The good old days of leprosy
anyone else also just receiving a lot more fatal errors than usual?
I didn’t have any yesterday
Fair and balanced
i mean just after the patch of yesterday. i got a few before that patch but im just askin in general
@hot pecan you goober
I've only fatal'd once and it was yesterday
i am not smart
It's PvE server
I could have been fooled
Yea, you could try verifying your files and update graphics drivers. I could have been really lucky and didn’t crash
Can a 50-55% rex escape from adults?
I’ve had a lot ever since Rex was released
hmm ill have to see bc ive done the normal fixes like lumen off and foliage physics off but ill check my drivers see if any need an update
Also try verifying your game files
yeah will do so as well
Also try wiping shader cache
Prolly not
My eyes
It’s amazing right
It's basically Batesian mimicry
I wouldn't call a ceratopsian harmless.
guys,anyone have some problems with prime? i visited 5 patrols,2 mmz and still no prime stego
Depends a lot on the situation, your best bet as the sub rex is to spot the adults from afar and attempt to make as much distance as possible between you and them while also blocking line of sight and managing your stamina
If you manage to make it a significant hassle to track you down I’m sure most players wouldn’t bother giving chase but if the chase starts with them being much closer to you ya might have to put more effort into losing them
?
erm is this just visual bug or something else all my entombed muts are 0% lol
tbh I get prime pretty regularly and I don't bother counting pz, I just travel a lot
same,just have issues with allo and stego,went the same way as all other dinos but no prime
But I don't think prime is something you are supposed to get every life, it's a bonus
Visual bug
ok good
I like dinosaurs
Are unofficial servers back up
Is Lois real?

well damn.
Bruh
What happened
i got onetapped by a maia
Dang
RIP
Play Hypsi and get your revenge
Me when "I will hunt for you"
Me when I lie
im gonna play some cerato
I was stego, bro was troodon and kept jumping on the maias
gets pinned by allo group
It’s fun and interactive

Most inteligent Troodon player:
were in a pve server
IT'S. FUN. AND. INTERACTIVE.
gets pinned by a Prime Elder Rex
I'M GONNA CRY. I'M GOING TO SOB.
ITS SO FUN PLAYING CERA GROWING ONE FOR 3 HOURS FOR ALLOS TO CATCH ME AT ANY STAGE AND PINNING ME TO DEATH
Make Cera miserable
honestly i played cerato for the first time in a year yesterday and allos werent much of an issue, rexs were though
welp im gonna play some petit
Bye Paul
bye
i always either ran away from allos or didnt get pinned somehow and just made them puke and ran away
Yeah rex seems to be really crazy at the minute. Insane damage, insane mobility, sparring allowing you to throw other heavier apexes for free damage.
Getting spar priority.
Cera had no fight against Allos
In Legacy, however

Ive been growing a cera too, pretty fun
i was able to kill a big sub/young adult allo really easily as a frail prime cera
Gods I still can't get over the fact that three years ago we were talking about allosaurus just stunning things to death.
We aren’t in Legacy bub
Does cera still have bacterial bite? is it good or nah
It still has bad dental hygeine
can relate
It's still stupid with how you can force people to vomit
Only reason cera can survive
It's just that now it's being outdone in terms of stunlocking by allos and rexes
I am
yikes
It's still a cool and unique and moderately unbalanced mechanic, its just that its being talked about less now because the people who used it to cheese fights moved to bigger things
Cheese
yo how tf is my game running when my pc is off? I turn on my game and it says evrima is already "running"
Cerato still lends itself really well to being a scavenger that relies on drawn out hunts
Violence is always the answer 
Welcome to the isle
Check if its counted as running on the steam app
Yikes you poor poor soul

Do dinosaurs get deleted after you dont play on that server for a few days?
I'm liking it
Why did he just keep pouncing
i think its a bug with servers, try #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
average allo/raptor player only knows one button (in their defense that button works 90% of the time)
"Hmm yes im going to click the button that puts me directly on top of the giant theropod, i see no problem with relying on this instead of claw swipes to drain blood while staying safe"
It’s also not as bad as it used to be post nerf, you don’t have as much bacteria, and you can only get it from rotten corpses, so no infinite bacteria fountain in the middle of a fight
So is it a feature, or a bug that biting small dinos and elite fish with a deino no longer puts them in your mouth? That combined with the painfully small hit boxes to pick stuff up with since the updates makes it almost impossible to eat elite fish, or smaller dinos that are killed while swimming.
tbf claw swipes would be pretty bad in this case since theyre unreliable to land on fast/agile stuff in direct fights, especially with ceratos bleed res. hed be better off running away i was a frail prime and slow
did they removed the Q when joining a server ?
Pretty bad? Yes. As bad as praying you die before their stamina runs out? No.
smartest allo player
better than grappling yeah, unless he actually grappled behind me
yesn't
Bug, it happens for land animals too, you kill something and it tries to go into your mouth, but instead rag dolls up and then flails back to the ground
Like a good example is Ever since the elder update you just dont grab things anymore. Like if a raptor jumps in pre elder update, you bite it, and its in your mouth automatically, easy to bring to land to eat.
Now you bite it, and it dies but then you gotta swim back around and try and pick it up now lol. That in combination of how small the hit boxes are for grabbing stuff makes it feel impossible at times lol.

tbh this sums up my cerato experience on officials, just messing with rexs by spitting in their food like a disgruntled applebees server
I’m mean don’t get me wrong I loved it too
Not anymore with what Evrima has to offer
No disrespect
theres restaurants in japan where the waiters spit in the food as part of the restaurant thing
isle fun facts 897
heck yeah how Cera is supposed to be played
gotta love the rex being a runner with high stam
so many times i had these packs of rexs trotting/running after me for long distances, when they have subs mixed in it gets scary
Revert rex stam to what it was before
one time i had a bunch of rexs chase me to the water because their juvis/subs were faster but they got too cocky
with the forever 30 min timer? if you log into a server and log back out right away, i've heard that fixes it.
ok i'll try ty
not 100% certain but worth a shot
Hi chat
Is unofficial servers still broken?
@somber urchin
yea, idk i'll wait a lil longer i tried and still on thirty
yes hello
Hi
so rmb is trash lol
was about to talk about that, rmb is ass now, good job devs 👏
I love dinosaurs
man. why doesn't bleed pounce do bleed smh
we all do
basically not clicking anything is what rmb is supposed to be
wonder if it got swapped accidentally
it was never stated to be a bleed pounce, we made it be a bleed pounce, though it would make a lot more sense to have a mix of both when not pressing anything and left and right do damage/bleed
smois liffin
prolly
I wish
devs doing anything else than buffing trike atp
Does anyone know the time when pt can spear fish again
same time eyes stop glowing with night vision on
Ok ty
Man.
My 16 mut 3.7 tons, 25% damage negation prime elder allo died to a big juvie Ai trike with almost hacker hitbox in one single hit. He could knock me over with hitting my tale and instant killed me so please dont talk about buffing trike.
Skill issue
😂😂😂 deserved
playing the isle again after 3 years feels weird and good again
so blame hackers not trike
i just walked past him and he could hit me from 10 metres away, i think to get a dino to 16 muts you need to have some skill otheriwse i would have died earlier
my prime elder rex died to a juvenile trike that used hacks to kill me in 2 seconds, nerf trike
nahh
also the music that plays randomly is so spooky it feels like im about to die XD
cant eat with my herbivore game wont let me, any ideas?
yeah that was a hacker, i died by range hacking ai lmfao
Known bug
Make Cera miserable
So why are you saying to not buff trike, you should tell the server owner to fix his ai
when these Ais are that strong i dont wanna have a buffed trike lmao xD
there... isnt trike ai
hes prolly talking about some unofficial server and basing game balance on that
are you sure about that?
there is lol asura servers
I'm taking away your Allo privileges.
That is wonderful
which is a terrible idea, you should instead tell the server owner to nerf his ai
yeah, at least not officially
if an unofficial server managed to glue an ai trike together, and its awful, how is that any reason to prevent the actual playable trike from getting buffed
man I haven't played evrima in a bit. time to see
no no bad idea keep playing legacy i promise you, you do not want to play evrima at this time
are plants fixed? wanting to play stego
pls dont
I've not played legacy for years
so what have you played
oh, from your message it sounded like you havent played evrima and instead have been playing legacy, maybe it would be better to say you havent played the isle next time, also dont play the isle evrima rn its super broken and will have you losing your mind, it will ruin the game for you, wait for a better point in time

last i checked big bushes are still funky, and outside of delta things are consumable.
Chews on grass
does anyone have the new zones I need them for prime
hopefully in a month or two the rex fever will mostly pass and people will start playing more trike and other creatures, it will hopefully get fixed and nerfed (also all the bugs and stuff in the game right now)
Behold... several days of work.
Hope it doesn't crash this time.
so would my steGODsaurus struggle to surbibe
It crashed.
can you explain what that is to the ones who don't know what that is
I don’t think there will ever truly be a die down. Maybe a little bit but I don’t think it will ever leave the top 3 most played
unfortunately you are probably correct
genuinely islander has been RUINED for the past 3 weeks
any time i check population its like 70 rexes, 40 allos
The human being under this mesage is lying, don't trust him/her.
hes hacking
It’s going to take months for that to happen lol. Probably a year ngl
all servers
true!
ive only been finding some sort of peace in petit pieds of all places because atleast i see more than allo and rex
You lied, then it's untrue
i have yet to get unbanned from there, poutine said he will unban me when he gets the time
true! but death is in every corner 😂
more servers need population control asap
did they fix herbivores not able to eat?
I am a human being.
tbh the games difficulty is on baby mode rn, i like the extra challenge. it feels a bit crowded when its got a high player count tho for sure
Aight, top to bottom... roughly.
Increases view distance, increases anisotropic filtering, tweaks the ambient occlusion (I can't tell if it's better or not, just different), adjusts the color settings without killing the saturation, skylight intensity, gamma, sharpens the image a little, that last one in the second section I'm not sure but it makes the scene a little softer looking... sets the reflection method to use SSR instead of lumen reflections because lumen reflections are completely broken right now, adjusts SSR, changes Lumen Global Illumination a little... tbh the toggle there is just because sometimes I turned it off to test. Adjusting lumen settings a bit for performance, while also making the foliage look a decent bit better, some lumen settings for when it's interacting with fog, I don't know what effect it has but performance does go up a little, and then some nanite adjustments, I don't know what the defaults are, but performance was helped a little by those, and I didn't notice a difference.
The last one is just Ultrawide support, might be outdated but I haven't tested the game without it in a while.
I typically play dinos that can easily evade larger things
oh yeah 100%! I mostly play there haha
Also I think the crash might have been unrelated because it's running now.
but I feel like the player count is a little too high lol 300 was sweet
mettas den with petit pieds population control is genuinely my ideal server
ugh idk what to play
The general idea is to outweigh the performance costs of increased view distance, and the natural cost of lumen with some adjustments. Thus far I have gotten it to run slightly better than the default game with lumen enabled.
uhh okay i totally understand now, though i was looking for a less thorough explanation, something like "adjusting the isle's settings" or something like that
Btw sorry if it already has been asnwered, but Network status on unofficial is 'Offline' but 'Online' on Officials. Anyways to fix it?
oh okay
probhaps
just turn the network status on
If I can just figure out how to denoise the grass I think this will be perfect, or at least good enough.
Thanks for that asnwer! ❤️
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