general-feedback-discussion

[uneven mist]

@exotic furnace would Also be better to report it here #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[cyan flame]

What did deino have back then in health?

[exotic furnace]

i aint filling that shit out

those bugs are already known

[limber hull]

well that ain't solving anything lmao

[uneven mist]

💀Why not, you want it gone right? Isn’t it the best to report it to bug report instead of general Feedback

[dusk meteor]

Would be interesting if some carnivores like herra or omnis would also want beehives. It would make some interesting risk, though they should perhaps be a more significant reward than just a little food if its so risky.
That or to split the bees into separate resources that the animals would be taking, I.e. Honey and larvae.

[jaunty yarrow]

Stego's health changed from 4k to 6k.

[jaunty yarrow]

Deino has always had 8k health.

[stiff storm]

Quite the buff haha

[cyan flame]

Also very much needed.

[urban flax]

@craggy veldt There are already debuffs for cannibalizing
You can't group up with players of other species, they just stay around each other in order to form mixpacks
Being in a pack o in a herd is already enough of an advantage to not warrant getting buffs on top of it

[jaunty yarrow]

Yea, I'm fine with their current health but I do think the headshot multiplier should be higher.

[craggy veldt]

if its literally just being near each other im not sure how they would force this behavior to change, its a community thing, such as instantly having everyone hunt down and kill mixed packs, that would change this behavior

[urban flax]

Some people actievly try to kill mixpackers when they see them
But it's easier said than done

[craggy veldt]

i suppose they could add in some kind of mechanic where if preds and herbs are to close for extended periods you lose control of your dino and it auto attacks? but people would probably whine about that

[burnt bone]

debuffs like that could cause other issues or not actually work in discouraging mixpacks.

personally, they should use diet and food as a main way to stop it. Make diets region and biome based. Pachy+teno mixpack is generally the most hated one because they work too well together. So, just make tenos stay around SE and center for plains and swamp. Then pachies can stay around North and West for the coasts and plains in between. Then to discourage megapacks, limit food so actually feeding a bigger herd is difficult, melon and pumpkin patches shouldn't have like 20 melons/pumpkins in them (which seems to be happening in the stress test to an extent)

[uneven mist]

@spiral wadi the devs have stated that money isn’t the issue many times btw.

[spiral wadi]

Ooh I gotchu. I figured they were probably good with funds but I was thinking perhaps they could hire more people to help out with the team. More people on a project like this especially doing things mechanic/ bug fixing wise I think would speed things up.

But maybe they should do that with the money they have? 👀

[burnt bone]

they are hiring and you can apply on their website. The issue is that they want specific types of people, and many of those people are not going to see this niche game

[uneven mist]

^ what he said

[spiral wadi]

Oooh good to know!!!

[quartz escarp]

for april fools they should jus put a clown mask on all the dinos and increase the floppynese of the ragdolls by 100

[dusk meteor]

@potent arrow while I think something should be done regarding diet (perhaps just adding a degrading status like the improving one) I think tying it to percentages like that would become too hard to manage. Over-consuming a diet item is incredibly helpful and beneficial since it easily allows for you to move between all the places your diet is without your diet degrading.

I think for a system like you proposed it might need to be tied a diet spread re-work, where items are more in one area so that the primary focus become balancing the diets rather the migrating for them.

And I dont think there's much room for overlap, though. I think it would lead to a lot of frustration trying to have people migrate long distances and carefully balance what they eat.

[potent arrow]

@dusk meteor thanks for the feedback. yeah I admit that it would be too complex.

[spiral wadi]

I see it got yeetus deletus

[gaunt canopy]

That is scam

Thx admin

[solid wedge]

@jagged jewel I would actually suggest this for a good bit of the apexs dinos thatll be ingame

[barren zephyr]

Is it a fair assessment to think that The Isle will function similarly to Primal?

I mean Primal has to be a little inspiring to the devs when it comes to overall feel. Or is that wrong?

Honestly if you haven't watched the show go check it out. It's a real scream.

[lapis swallow]

@plush rampart its not only the health but the speed too, a 80% utah has 39kmh, maybe you could add that

[plush rampart]

Right right thanks for letting me know I’ll do that

[barren zephyr]

Make the player base to like 200 to 500 per server not 100

[proven river]

But lag though

The servers can barely handle 100, 200-500 gonna fuck our frames to hell

[near tiger]

honestly mud pools can stay, the tracking can be as it is, it just needs a reliable counter so if u do manage to escape and don't know where a mud pool is or you were at a mud pool and there's no others near you should be able to actually escape the relentless tracking of like say, a carno lol, and it'd also bring back the dangers of the riverside again with deinos if you wallow by a river, i'd say any mud should be wallowable, maybe a mud pool would have a certain benefit or last longer or apply faster along with just being convenient mud wallowing option inland

[thick quarry]

Maybe wallowing on riversides only deters tracking, but does not stop bleeding

And then inland mud pools which are thicker and more clumpy are used to clot blood

Hmm the river mud is kind of an oxymoron at the moment

[thick quarry]

Alright, what if a new mechanic was introduced: overheating

Sometimes you'll just have to sit in the shade and rest to avoid overheating, which causes dehydration and stam depletion

BUT if you don't want to do that, you have to wallow at a river
Only mud by jungle rivers can stop overheating because they are partially in the shade and beside water.
Inland mud pools would be too hot or dried up

And if deinos are smart, they'll notice that it's a hot day (maybe the water retreats slightly, exposing the mud) and then they'll wait at spots to catch wallowing prey

What do you think?

[unreal ridge]

I mean, considering the fact, creatures related to reptiles/birds enjoy the heat and dont overheat as often as mammals

but yeah I do think it would be nice just not necessary

What I would like to see if overheating got added would be roosting/resting spots, aka trees, logs and rocks that have been knocked over and provide shade and things like roosting would have branches creatures could snap into like ptera

[thick quarry]

Ooh

I didn't think of that

Your idea is very cool too

[barren zephyr]

Well if they added a hot blooded/ cold blooded system they could do alot with it. Like maybe all dinos are warm blooded and need to cool down like you've said.

Now they can't overheat every 10 minutes or the game becomes a rest sim, but what if the temp of the creature works similarly to the nesting and makes the dino have a speed increase, only by a little as to not make it broken.

And those who are cold blooded like deino or Pteras they would be naturally cooler since one Flys in the air/wind and the other swims all day.

I mean I think its a cute idea, but as far as down sides, I guess if you're dino is too hot it would be the same level slower as it would be faster.

And vise versa for the cold blooded guys too. Then agian I could see this being apart of the QOL update.

Not to mention perks playing into account and people maybe given the chance to switch between the two.

Just something interesting I guess.

[thick quarry]

If it were me, I would make it so that only certain times of the day can cause overheating: high noon

And if you're really active around that time, like say on the grasslands, you would notice heavier breathing, slowed movement, dehydration and slow stamina regen
If you're in the jungle it's a lot less so
And being near the coast would be similar effect, large bodies of water moderate heat a lot
The best way to beat the heat if you're a small animal are staying in the shade until the shadows are less direct or wallowing... if you're willing to take the risk
One animal which could be naturally resistant to overheating would be the stego, since it could use its plates to help regulate body heat, and the dieno which is in the rivers

Other than that the only issue I see this creating is making noon boring, where you just have to sit down to not be too tired
Hence why it would encourage wallowing so you can continue with your day
I also see this as a part of the QOL update so if it is added, there would need to be other things to do in the jungles to kind of keep player busy

[thick quarry]

I was looking into dinosaur overheating earlier and I round a paper which said that large dinosaurs had to specialize somehow to keep their brains from overheating, so maybe one of the perks you can select would lessen overheating and eventually stop it altogether, like say at tier 3 for the perk

the more I think about it the more interesting it gets

but I also wouldn't want to turn the game into a resting simulator like you said

[barren zephyr]

Well aren't there gonna be bioms for certain creature? You can have the bioms have natural perks for their preferred creatures tbh and the hot/cold blooded system can play into that too.

[barren zephyr]

It's rare and fun tbh

[thick quarry]

Oo yeah I forgot

I don't think it's anywhere on the roadmap so far, although it will be updated soon so who knoes

[stiff storm]

maybe thats the fix then. max the headshot multiplier for deino vs steg higher to replicate 3.0 more

so steg keeps its 6k health but can be taken out by a skilled player unless the steg moves away just like in 3.0

[limber hull]

that seems like it'd be really easy for a deino to kill if it had 3x headshots

[jaunty yarrow]

Definitely not immediately, it’d take 4 headshots (like how it was in U3) to kill a stegosaurus as a deino. That’s pretty fair.

[limber hull]

in U3, deino was an uncontested water rex, U3 comparisons don't fill me with confidence

[jaunty yarrow]

It would be more punishing for stegos who played offensively and didn’t keep their backside faced towards the animal.

[jaunty yarrow]

I think the matchups were more balanced, stego has too much of an edge currently.

I’m not pro-land croc, but I feel like if a stego try’s to bully a deino in its domain it should have some trouble doing so.

[limber hull]

Stego needs the edge imho. Allow deino too much liberties and you end up with something even worse than what stego does atm

[limber hull]

this is fair

[jaunty yarrow]

Nah, simply increasing the headshot multiplier would make stego spec into defense rather than camping the water banks.

Facetanking a singular deino as a stego is viable right now.

[barren zephyr]

Well it should be lol if I'm not mistaken lol

[barren zephyr]

I believe gore will fix this issue, deino might receive the ability to tear off chunks of leg or hide from stegos. It would be cool to see them tear off the stego tail and them be defenseless lol

[jaunty yarrow]

Yea that’s probably not how it’s going to work.

Maiming an animal and permanently disfiguring it seems very unlikely.

[barren zephyr]

Well they do have broken jaw in the game, plus no one really knows how anything will turn out tbh. Fun to speculate.

[jaunty yarrow]

Yes, but head fractures heal after some time and aren’t permanent. That’d be entirely unfair to the player to lose a limb and not have it until respawning.

I’m pretty sure the devs even said that it won’t be a thing.

[barren zephyr]

Who said it would be gone forever?

I mean these aren't 100 percent dinos.

They can regenerate anything if the plot demands it lol

[burnt bone]

they also said there won't be stuff like missing limbs... while you're still alive at least. Even if that limb barely does anything, like a carno arm, it wont come off until after you die.

[barren zephyr]

Ok but at least a chunk of it will come off, it doesn't have to be the whole thing. Which would be cool, but understandably development hell.

[limber hull]

i think they said no to things like permanent disfigurements as it isnt fun

[barren zephyr]

Who said permanent?

I didn't.

[limber hull]

then wouldn't they just be reskinned fractures

[barren zephyr]

Well isn't barf just reskinned food? O wait that doesn't even have a "skin" or affect.

[limber hull]

my brother in christ

i want to not talk about barf for 5 minutes

[barren zephyr]

Well anyway the point is I guess you can call it a reskin, but it would add more to the gameplay if those wounds could get infected

And the devs haven't really said what they can't do, just they wanna nail the gore update.

[burnt bone]

@scenic cedar You do realize why they have it right? Its so you cant just spawn as a baby and constantly harass someone or feed them easily. Even with the timer, people are having issues with utah packs having members die and come back as babies to keep the prey bleeding.

[scenic cedar]

Then they should lower the time, having to wait 300 seconds because someone wanted to kill me, jumping areas and getting killed again only to be forced to wait the 300 seconds again is highly annoying

[burnt bone]

then spawn somewhere different. there are a lot of other spawn zones you can go to.

[scenic cedar]

what if i cant? each zone i go to have people left and right that will kill you as soon as you spawn in

[burnt bone]

It would be incredibly hard for people to camp every spawn point at once. Even then, you have a large area to spawn in at, so you can likely run away if you don't keep running to them.

NW, Center, and SE have the most people. If you spawn literally anywhere else, there is likely no one there.

[scenic cedar]

it still happens, they see a baby dino and its instantly killed

[limber hull]

its only 5 minutes and you still have 4 more spawnpoints to choose from

[scenic cedar]

you can still get killed in 5 minuets

[limber hull]

then good news, you can spawn in the other place

[burnt bone]

Yeah, that happens sometimes, people camp certain spawn points. However, you can always spawn in a different location than they are at after the first time.

[scenic cedar]

you'll still get killed there

[barren zephyr]

Do they not have random spawns at the spawn areas?

[burnt bone]

they do, and they normally spawn you away from other people.

[limber hull]

they do have random spawn deviance i believe, so its not possible to spawncamp

[burnt bone]

the only 3 spawn locations I normally see getting camped would be NW because a lot of people like to go over that big open field, center because theres generally just people around that spawn area, and South because theres only 2 main spawn areas that are out in the open.
All of these places have ways to get around the spawn campers too, just stay out of the open and you should be fine. The people spawn camping are generally too dumb to hunt real prey anyway

[barren zephyr]

Ok so basically this guy is unlucky?

Sorry you were chosen by God to die lol

[burnt bone]

that or he kept spawning in the same place and running in the exact same line.

[barren zephyr]

Yikes, another reason nesting is superior imo.

[burnt bone]

Yeah, nesting should help a lot. Gives you a headstart and some packmates that likely won't just kill you on sight. And if they do, they're the ones losing progress lol.

[barren zephyr]

That or they had no choice and were starving lol but either way lol

[limber hull]

i doubt hatchlings have any real food on them

[barren zephyr]

Well, think of a hatchling as a egg yolk.

Packed with all the nutrients a growing carnivore needs.

But they can walk lol

[toxic mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-stop-it-get-some-help-gif-10812582

@silk viper

[vague salmon]

Making poop a manual command might attract some weird interactions and people in my opinion. Imagining clans just collectively pooping at once in one spot so their little mixpack babies or something could eat their fecal infested plants for some buff. I just don't trust something like that in a mass multiplayer survival game.

[limber hull]

dont know how to feel about poop button

[toxic mantle]

For a game with inaccurate dinosaurs and mutant tribals I don't get why people have such a fixation on extreme realism. Especially when it comes to defication.

I know you mean well Rave but please no. Just no.

[urban flax]

Defecation as a mechanic can be made useful for gameplay and not too gross
poop button for getting buffs is... wth ?

[barren zephyr]

😂 poop? I mean I'm all for the idea but If ANYTHING let that be a QOL update exclusive lmao

[lapis swallow]

The poop idea is kinda shit

[barren zephyr]

In a game about unrealistic things where people seem to look down on those whom may find pleasure in seeing some form of realism or grounding, truly baffles me hehehe

[barren zephyr]

That's the idea

[limber hull]

poop was planned for a while, but i dont think it should be super indepth or require a button input

[barren zephyr]

I thought they said no to the idea lol

[limber hull]

imo, you just randomly shit, and the shit makes an odour which can be used to tracking

no, it's one of the most controversial things, but they did confirm poop

[barren zephyr]

You know what they could do instead of poo?

[limber hull]

if you say barf im going to end you

[barren zephyr]

I wasn't gonna say barf -.-

Thr very notion, how disappointing of you mr troo.

I was gonna say vomit.

Big ol Brown and Green chunks. With little tacos as sweet corn hahahahehe

[limber hull]

You fucker

You can't get away with this

[barren zephyr]

Check the general chat

How I love small moments like this.

Oh well, anything interesting happen discussion wise Mr Troo?

[urban flax]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-the-isle-path-of-titans-beasts-of-bermuda-gif-25018588

Sorry I just had this hanging around and thought you would be the perfect victim

[limber hull]

exactly

ive done this on purpose

all part of my master plan

[urban flax]

Damn you are smarter than I expected
I fell right into your trap

[limber hull]

it started with mr rex, then mr cerato, and now mr troodon

[urban flax]

And mr giga ?

[limber hull]

Oh yea

[proven river]

@earnest harbor you're referring to the isle legacy, the devs removed official servers on it and are never doing anything to it ever again apart from eventually deleting it when the isle EVRIMA comes up to par, you'll just have to deal with the crappy chinese servers because the devs aren't doing crap about it

[proven river]

@barren zephyr I love the organization on your suggestion, thanks dude

[urban flax]

Isn't collecting materials for the nest already a thing in the Stress test ?

[proven river]

yes

[hidden pilot]

only for carno hypsie deino and ptera

[tiny compass]

Any news on the update 5 eta?

Can we expect a surprise for Christmas, at least?

[uneven mist]

No eta

[jaunty yarrow]

This month.

[tiny compass]

🤞

[jaunty yarrow]

Devs said it btw.

[uneven mist]

@gloomy reef i agree with more dinos but not big animals like rex. Cera, troodon and beipi are in the work rn

[tiny compass]

We need big animals actually, something that the stego should be wary of…

[uneven mist]

Utah can take out stegos but the pounce needs to work first

[tiny compass]

Nah…utahs is not a game changer, stego needs a real competitor

Sort of like a land deino…

Big carnivore, mean…that stego needs to defend as a herd

Allosaurus maybe

[uneven mist]

Well…many animals like herrera and troodon could take out the younger and utah the big boys, we dont need big dinos atm

[tiny compass]

Or albertosaurus

At the moment carno is the biggest carnivore, yet it’s no capable to killing bigger prey than the adult teno

And that’s a bummer

The game rly lacks a bigger meaner carnivore…and not just against stego but the deino as well

[uneven mist]

Then we add bary to take out young deinos and fix utahs pounce

[tiny compass]

And if things don’t change for the dryo, it will surely be the most ignored and pointless Dino ever added

Yes, barry or cerato could bring some balance to the overall gameplay

[uneven mist]

Mostly bc carno isn’t really supposed to go after big prey and more smal game and the biggest things it can go after would be teno, magy and dibble

[tiny compass]

But I guess we’d have to wait one more year for‘em

[jagged jewel]

they didnt confirm it though they just said that it would possibly come

[jaunty yarrow]

They said 'this month'.

[jagged jewel]

it’s not supposed to

[jagged jewel]

can you provide a screenshot or link

cuz they also said redwoods in U4 and yet here we are

[jaunty yarrow]

Nah, I don't have it.

[jaunty yarrow]

That was ancient to be fair.

[jagged jewel]

i wouldnt take it too seriously though

[jaunty yarrow]

It's their ETA so..

[jagged jewel]

it’s still a broken promise

[jaunty yarrow]

That's fair.

[jagged jewel]

devs had said many things that they did not do in the past haha

[jaunty yarrow]

Redwoods could've been possible if they didn't find the need to rework Spiro which was in a good spot.

[tiny compass]

As I said, brace for Christmas guys

[jagged jewel]

imo they should make a whole new map from scratch

easier to add new biomes n stuff

[tiny compass]

They are too busy working on pointless humans so don’t put your hopes up

[limber hull]

idk what bary or cerato would do about your stego problem

[limber hull]

me and my mates are personally fucking super hyped for humans, so i wouldn't consider them pointless

[uneven mist]

Same^

[tiny compass]

@limber hull stego is not MY problem, and working on humans, when there’s a plethora of large issues to be dealt within the current game, and given their ‘speed’, it could take years …so that’s why I see it’s really a waste of our time…and not just me, it’s a whole community saying that

[limber hull]

my point still stands that how are cerato or bary going to do anything about stego

[tiny compass]

I don’t know, maybe barry or cerato could inflict more bleeding on big adult stego, better than the current biggest light carnivore available anyway,

It’s not that hard to imagine, so I agreed on those 2, just so players can have a new toy, till the real big guy ‘Rexy’ shows up

[limber hull]

bary and cerato are literally smaller than carno

[tiny compass]

I don’t know about Barry, although that would be a semi aquatic Dino (which will open a whole new can or worms)…but cerato is stronger than the carno no doubt

[uneven mist]

The devs have stated that carno and cera are equal in terms of strength

[cyan flame]

Carno is larger and more powerful in general, even if cerato has some tricks defense wise.. cerato might get more bite force I suppose, but even so..

[limber hull]

irl, cera is a MUCH smaller animal, and they're def not repeating the legacy mistake of MASSIVELY oversizing it

[tiny compass]

I’d bet on the cerato tho

[limber hull]

cera is a corpse bully scavenger, it's not going to be taking on stegos

cerato def losing to stego no doubt imo

[tiny compass]

Carno Is about 3 m tall and 9m length, and cerato is 2 m tall and 7 m length, but the real difference is in the skull, cerato is more powerful has a longer snout more like a rex…

[limber hull]

true, still doesn't mean it's biting nearly hard enough to significantly damage stego, although it could absolutely bully the hell out of smaller animals

[tiny compass]

Still better than a carno tho

[limber hull]

proportionally, probably

[tiny compass]

So the original idea is we rly need a bigger carnivore … spino maybe?

[limber hull]

we really don't need an animal like that atm

[hidden pilot]

spino isnt anywhere near done and would be extremely out of place rn

[tiny compass]

I’m curious what a vote would reveal?

[hidden pilot]

that spino would ruin the roster rn

[jagged jewel]

ah yes it has a longer snout therefore it will take on stego

the smallest dino that i can see taking down stego in small groups is allo

also when you see a stego you can turn the other direction and get away from it

[limber hull]

i mean, utah can if it works and is good

[jagged jewel]

true

cera is visually like the same size as irl utah

i can only see it take a 50% stego at most

[uneven mist]

@barren zephyr deino is able to eat corpses that floats in the water

[barren zephyr]

Really? Huh color me tickled.

[uneven mist]

Yeah but it cant eat it if its underwater so you either have to wait for it to surface, pick it up ot pick up chunks if its too big

[barren zephyr]

Hmm, makes sense. But what about the other things I said?

Ok warden I edited it.

[uneven mist]

The Gore part? We dont know, sounds cool but might be hard to implement but who knows, mabye it wil come but only time wil tell

[barren zephyr]

Actually, anything can kill anything with enough time and skill.

Unless they have a tough skin system...then smaller dinos can only attack bigger ones when they have multiple scars.

That doesn't sound too bad of a mechanic tbh lol

[uneven mist]

But try asking kissen but remember to turn of Ping on reply to her

[barren zephyr]

What's that mean?

How do I do that?

[uneven mist]

Click here and if it says of then you turned of the Ping

[barren zephyr]

So do I at her?

[uneven mist]

No here #isle-discussion

[barren zephyr]

I still don't understand, I'll just ask without @ing her

[uneven mist]

Or just say «Hey kissen (with the question) without replying to her

[barren zephyr]

Ok I think that's what I did. I doubt she'll answer

[uneven mist]

If she’s there and sees it she wil but wait and see, if she dosent answer then try asking the same question to a different dev when they are in the discussion channel

[barren zephyr]

Ok 👌

That chat is a fuckin mess lol

[uneven mist]

Yeah it is…it goes from 0 to 100 real quick

[barren zephyr]

Well i tried, but the people probably scared her away.

Someone said it would make people wanna mix pack.

Like they could ever stop that lol

[ashen wasp]

I mean, Hypsi isn’t doing much to Brachi if the latter heals faster than the former can deal damage

[barren zephyr]

Well if everyone wanted to they could all go to hypsi and attack it.

[thick quarry]

@ashen elm DAMN you made a whole essay, respekt 🫀 🤝

[ashen elm]

Thanks lol
It helps for people if the brief summery didn't convince them, I think.

[thick quarry]

You have me convinced and signed up

I would love for the game to look like this

[jagged jewel]

i meant consistently haha

[barren zephyr]

Consistently what?

[tight oxide]

anky is a hippo now ig

[burnt bone]

no, it just sinks. It won't be fast and has limited oxygen still.

[tight oxide]

Wasnt meant to be taken seriously-

[burnt bone]

literally everyone is saying that, hard to tell if its serious or not.

[uneven mist]

@fallen path it wont, it just wil be able to sink in the bottom of the river

[cyan flame]

Its not semiaquatic, it just cant swim so it has to walk to get across.

[tight oxide]

[fallow cypress]

It's not semi, naturally it can't swim cause it's a dense boi so instead for a short period of time it can hold it's breath to cross rivers. A stego isn't semi just because it can swim.

[uneven mist]

@vestal storm we have minmi wich is semi-aquatic, no need to make anky one too

[vestal storm]

Bro he going hippo mode he aint gonna be a semi aquatic

Just hippo mode

And like so many animals in the isle are unrealistic so let anky boi have this

[valid zephyr]

I’m just here laughing at all the people thinking anky is going to live underwater

It’s not an aquatic. It’s just too heavy to swim

[vestal storm]

Ik he is just gonna have a hippo mode

[hidden pilot]

@fallen path Who said it was semiaquatic?

[vestal storm]

Yeah it aint semi

[valid zephyr]

Larger ankylosaurs were too dense to swim

[vestal storm]

Its just hippo mode

[valid zephyr]

Walking across the bottom makes more sense than swimming

[vestal storm]

Yeah exactly hippo mode

[burnt bone]

hippo mode but without any of the benefits it gives hippos

[fallen path]

Arent hippos semi aquatic tho

[hidden pilot]

yeah but anky isnt

[vestal storm]

Yes but i mean just walking on the bottom

[fallen path]

then why bring up the example

[vestal storm]

What hippos do

[burnt bone]

It walks along the bottom like them

[hidden pilot]

its a hippo thing to do

[fallen path]

alright

[vestal storm]

Like what spino is gonna do

They both have a hippo mode

Just anky isnt semi

[hidden pilot]

but just because it can walk along the bottom doesnt mean its semi aquatic, punch even confirmed that it will be very slow when in water and could drown easily

[solid wedge]

They are, but they are so physically dense that they sink

[vestal storm]

Yeah

[tight oxide]

anky has true hippo mode because its fat

[burnt bone]

and it will likely not have much oxygen

[vestal storm]

Yes

Bro look at this though

I just did that a few minutes ago

[tight oxide]

🤨

[vestal storm]

And already hated

[burnt bone]

because anky shouldn't be semi, it already has unkillable raid boss going for it

[hidden pilot]

your utah thing ist that valid cus it is gonna get a rename and have the current name moved to an accurate one

[vestal storm]

Well it isnt semi

[vestal storm]

It is for now

[cyan flame]

@finite saddleNo.

[solid wedge]

its also super dense so that mf would sink like a fellow with concrete shoes

[valid zephyr]

Walking underwater doesn’t make it semi aquatic.

[hidden pilot]

[finite saddle]

why not?

i died because of a FOOD gaurding stego

[hidden pilot]

exactly

[vestal storm]

Yes

[finite saddle]

how stupid is that

i cant even eat what i killed?

[burnt bone]

Yes, I agree with it sinking, thats cool. But make it slow and have poor oxygen like punch said it likely will.

[hidden pilot]

that doesnt mean it should be nerfed

[finite saddle]

plus its so fast that even when there is 2 bodys the stego gaurds 1 and the other is left un touched i run over asd a carno and take 1 single bite and the stego arrives so quick enough to hit me

[runic rune]

not too bad though, no one needs to drown trying to cross a river

[vestal storm]

Yes

[hidden pilot]

that problem is entirely based on player choice so stego has no reason to be nerfed

[hidden pilot]

but some rivers might trap it at parts

[vestal storm]

That is dumb

[solid wedge]

Anky will likely utilize the crossing areas around the map that force deinos up to the surface to cross

[burnt bone]

They said you may need to consider finding crossing points, so if the river is deep and wide enough, you might be forced to find a shallower spot or a bridge.

[runic rune]

i'm talking about like, normal river crossings

[hidden pilot]

yeah it is

[runic rune]

also why is everyone leaving the ping on omg

im right here 😂

[hidden pilot]

cus we can

[vestal storm]

Loosing an anky because u get trapped

Just very anti climatic

[solid wedge]

live like a rock die to the rocks

[vestal storm]

Lol

[hidden pilot]

not as in ur stuck on island surrounded by rivers, but more so you cant cross right here, go somewhere else

[vestal storm]

I guess

Bro it would break the game if anky could swing underwater

[hidden pilot]

would it ho?

its already super slow in water so it cant chase anything

[vestal storm]

But deinos couldn’t do anything

[hidden pilot]

swim away

[vestal storm]

Well not much

No to kill it

[hidden pilot]

pretty easy to swim away from something that cant swim

[vestal storm]

Not getting away killing the anky

And its way too heavy to lunge and grab a full adult anky

Well the anky is to heavy

[burnt bone]

anky's entire niche is "I can't die" So just do what 95% of other creatures are going to do, avoid it.

[vestal storm]

Yeah

It is tankylosaurus

Ankylo ren

And hopefully the devs take into account this time that anky had a 75% chance to kill a rex

Or around there

[solid wedge]

Bro i love how the gigas are so confused on what to do with the anky

[vestal storm]

Acros

But yeah it looks like anky plays ded

[burnt bone]

its more like armor lock from halo, it just cover's its vulnerable underside and takes basically no damage

[vestal storm]

Yeah

And the spino getting a broke. Jaw

And giga not being able to get the ankys underside with its jaws makes sense

Just hope rex can’t easily kill anky

Key word easily

[burnt bone]

Well, anky is much slower, so it will need to be able to fight.

[solid wedge]

I woudnt think so with collision now

if the anky can pivot well enough to insure that tail is inbetween it and rex its pretty safe

[vestal storm]

Yeah one anky swing to a rexs head should do a bunch of damage

[solid wedge]

and a jaw break

[vestal storm]

Yes

Which reduces damage

[solid wedge]

like the poor acro that got uppercutted

[vestal storm]

Then it should have a non broken armor mechanic

[solid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/uppercut-mike-tyson-boxing-fight-ko-gif-16390568

[vestal storm]

Yeah lol

Bites on the ankys armor plates should do a little bit of reduced damage

And maybe the apex trio should fear an anky but can still kill it

[barren zephyr]

Release humans with guns and all their mechanics in december ill pay you five thousand quid

[vestal storm]

So like 6,000 usd

Dont think the devs are gonna take it

[barren zephyr]

That new concept art is 🔥 📛 👩‍🚒 🚒

Can't even be mad lol

Acro :))))

Gotta say though, I've always had the idea of anky being a mix between a rhino, hippo, and a armadillo.

Which I hope the baby's get an ability to do what pangilins do, and curl up into balls.

[vestal storm]

Bruh

You cappin right?

[barren zephyr]

🤨

[vestal storm]

Anky is god tier already

He doesn’t need to be an armadillo

[limber hull]

it WOULD be fun tho

[vestal storm]

Not really

Its like saying pachys break percentage isn’t broken which it is

[icy lion]

Percentage?

[barren zephyr]

I beg to differ

[limber hull]

it doesnt have a break percentage

[vestal storm]

Whatever it is bro idc

[limber hull]

also tell me that seeing little ankys curl into balls and roll down hills wouldn't be cute/fun to play. I don't even care if it's realistic at all, it just sounds FUN

[barren zephyr]

Ikr

[vestal storm]

Would it be fun seeing a pachy flying

[limber hull]

no, because that's an entirely different topic

[vestal storm]

Cause that is kinda what ur saying

[barren zephyr]

Yes. Most birds do this so people would love the idea

[vestal storm]

Pachy isnt a bird

[barren zephyr]

Is related to them

[vestal storm]

Is it one though

Does it have wings

[barren zephyr]

Yes

It has arms and there for can have wings

[limber hull]

i fail to see what pachy flying has anything to do with anky roll

[vestal storm]

Its an analogy

[barren zephyr]

I'm just messing with this guy lol

[limber hull]

i dont even fully agree with the idea, but i can concede that it'd be fucking fun

[barren zephyr]

It's a dodo bird with a helmets

[vestal storm]

And break the ankys spine

[vestal storm]

💀

[barren zephyr]

Yeah if this game was about realistic dinos......

[vestal storm]

Oh look what happened there

It isnt semi aquatic btw

That is why theres quotes

[barren zephyr]

Well that would imply you want it to swim and be around water alot

[limber hull]

also frankly, IDK what else juvi ankys would do to survive, so ball mode could be a cool juvi niche to get away from predators before it can grow into a more self-sufficient animal at later ages

idk, being semi-aquatic and hanging around water doesn't sound as fun as a juvi anky tearing down a hill

[barren zephyr]

Hey you can post the idea if you want, just credit me.

[vestal storm]

I dont

[icy lion]

This just sounds like you want it to be semiaquatic

[barren zephyr]

Semi aquatic?

Lmao

[vestal storm]

So thats why u ❌ it

I dont

[limber hull]

what???

[vestal storm]

Ok so with no quotations its the same thing ?

[barren zephyr]

What are you talking about?

[icy lion]

Do you mean that you like that it can walk on riverbeds?

[limber hull]

what the hell is the difference between semi-aquatic and "semi-aquatic" explain

[vestal storm]

Yes

[vestal storm]

The difference is the qoutes means that it isn’t really semi aquatic, its semi semi aquatic

[limber hull]

you've baffled me

[barren zephyr]

I hope it's weight based, honesty all dinos should do this.

I mean a hatchling anky walking at a river bottom would be ridiculous lol

Or a juvi

[limber hull]

its less of a weight thing and more of a density thing tho

[barren zephyr]

Same dif tbh

[vestal storm]

Not really

[icy lion]

A small rock sinks just like a big one

[limber hull]

not really

small rock and big rock still sink

[barren zephyr]

Yeah but this is an animal, not a rock lol

[limber hull]

10g rock sinks as fast as 20kg rock

[grand zinc]

Cant baby hippos also not swim

[vestal storm]

It would be dumb if t rex just sank

[barren zephyr]

Unless it's just like a hippo

[icy lion]

That said I still think it'd be neat to have a very slight change as the osteoderms grow in. Baby ankys should still sink imo, but maybe a bit slower?

It's just such a minor thing though

[vestal storm]

Yes

Also anky should be able to kill but not completely destroy rex

[barren zephyr]

Yeah I was thinking of just watching a herd of pebbles waddling at the river bottom lol

[limber hull]

nah i reckon if the rex isnt careful around anky it should get fucking destroyed

[vestal storm]

Well if its not careful

[barren zephyr]

Ohhhhh how about a quick rise ability, so they curl up underwater and float straight up?

[vestal storm]

If its smart it can kill it

[barren zephyr]

Like coconuts lol

[vestal storm]

But they just sink

Even in a ball

[limber hull]

gigas should honestly just stand no chance against anky imho

[vestal storm]

Still the same density

[barren zephyr]

Hey its just an opinion, sheesh.

[vestal storm]

Yesss

[barren zephyr]

Sorry mr newton.

[vestal storm]

Also spino just shouldn’t try

[main oriole]

Hippo anky is best anky

[vestal storm]

Yes

Hippo mode anky

Spino would be too weak to badly hurt a anky with its slimmer snout

Anky is god tier

[barren zephyr]

I bet biting them underwater will hurt/deplete their o2. And make them drown.

[vestal storm]

https://tenor.com/view/indominous-rex-bite-fighting-jurassic-world-gif-17280654

[main oriole]

The anky from JW is absolutely cracked, that carapace is insane

[vestal storm]

Ik

Indom should die here if it wasn’t a movie

[limber hull]

seems like there is a plan for a spino anky matchup

[vestal storm]

Yea

[limber hull]

since a LOT of concept art shows em fighting

[vestal storm]

Bro spinos jaw got destroyed in that concept art

[limber hull]

and in spino's art, it flips anky and attacks its underside

they seem to be pushing for the anky/spino matchup

[vestal storm]

I feel anky is too heavy for that

[barren zephyr]

Check the chat mr troo

[limber hull]

its not like anky is outrunning any predator as a juvi

[barren zephyr]

Nope.

[limber hull]

also imagine your anky herd comes to the top of a hill, juvis just go "check this shit" and race down the hill

[barren zephyr]

Reminds me of kung fu panda lol

What is you're opinion of choking though?

[vestal storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bumpy-bumpy-ankylosaurus-ankylosaurus-jurassic-world-camp-cretaceous-gif-20592005

give us bumpy colors

[barren zephyr]

I hope thr idea takes off. That has to be the cutest thing I've ever thought of in a while lol

I wonder why people are giving it the troll gator face.

The only foreseeable issue is carring a curled up baby in you're moath. But dropping it off a high place should kill it. Lol

[burnt bone]

well the skin system exists, and the colors look pretty natural. So there will likely be similar colors at least.

[gaunt canopy]

That is adorable Imagine if they added that animation after the anky hatchling haches

[fleet wigeon]

Pteranodon is physically incapable of picking things up with their feet

[urban flax]

Ah anky discussion
So this is the second time anky suggests anky being semiaquatic
I love the curling up into a ball idea though, as unrealistic as it may be

[wooden agate]

ptera was not strong enough to do that @radiant hinge

[limber hull]

imagine how fun it'd be

[fleet wigeon]

Also the foot shape is entirely wrong

[urban flax]

I'd main anky and suicide once I hit subadult in order to be able to start over and roll down hills again

I can already imagine pro-players doing their best ankyball races down every hill on the map

[fleet wigeon]

I feel like the ankyball idea is a bit too cartoony for this game

[limber hull]

it's also neat because it's environmentally situational. It won't do jackshit on the open plains and the animal can simply follow the ball

[limber hull]

only for really young ones

otherwise, yea, silly

[fleet wigeon]

If it were added, I'd rather it be non-mobile

[urban flax]

We have hypsi

And troodon

[fleet wigeon]

Hypsi is a bird, not Sonic the hedgehog

[limber hull]

he's not able to control the direction of the ball, nor make it speed up

he crawls into a ball and then gravity takes him

[fleet wigeon]

I already dislike how segmented the anky armor is in the first place, I feel like this just goes too far

[urban flax]

I'm pretty sure there was at least 1 dinosaur species that was able to do that
Probably not an ankylosaurid tho

[limber hull]

the thing is, the fuck else is juvi anky going to have

[glossy sierra]

Ptera was like 10kg💀 💀 💀

[limber hull]

it just would die, to every single animal that sees it

[fleet wigeon]

Same thing the adult anky does, hunker down

[limber hull]

except it's a juvi

so it'd just die

[fleet wigeon]

Well what's a juvie of any type going to do if it gets spotted

[glossy sierra]

Become rock

[fleet wigeon]

Beyond things like ptera flying away or herrera scuttling up a tree

[limber hull]

generally, most of them can run pretty fast or swim, so on. The most vulnerable juvi atm is stego honestly

[glossy sierra]

Stego mid

[fleet wigeon]

The thing is, a juvie anky is pretty much just minmi

[proven river]

[limber hull]

except it can't stay underwater for very long or burrow, which are two things minmi can do

[jagged jewel]

but minmi has the mobility and abilities of an adult creature

[fleet wigeon]

I see anky utilizing the hunker down mechanic in most altercations. Just sit there until they screw off

[limber hull]

okay but it won't work as a juvi, it'd just sit there and wait to get eaten

[fleet wigeon]

And ankyball would just prolong it

Any predators would just follow it

[limber hull]

but here's the thing

ankyball is instantly more fun

[jagged jewel]

^

better gameplay + better juvi experience

[limber hull]

this is the Isle, the game with JP velo utahraptor, tree-climbing herra, venomous nocturnal (potentially bioluminescent according to recent dev statements) troodon, the entirety of Isle spino, so on. A juvi anky being a ball is not the most offensive thing this game has done to the state of realism

[fleet wigeon]

Realism is one thing, groundedness is another

Ankyball is neither realistic nor grounded

[jagged jewel]

and so is gameplay, and ankyball makes for fun moments

[limber hull]

counterpoint, mimicry venom night vision bioluminescent troodon is also neither realistic or grounded.

Is it fun tho? Fuck yes it's fun.

Conceptually it sounds like a goddamn blast

[urban flax]

I find ankyball to be more realistic than current utah

[limber hull]

if it was ADULT anky, sure

[jagged jewel]

yeah literally everything about utah is unrealistic

[limber hull]

but if you see tiny little ankyballs coming down the hill, that's adorable

[fleet wigeon]

I don't think the game is going for adorable

[jagged jewel]

knowing how uneven TI’s terrain is, ankyball will have a lot of useful spots

[jagged jewel]

kissen said the game will have adorable things to “make up” for the gore

[fleet wigeon]

Hm

[jagged jewel]

like the babies in concept arts n stuff

[fleet wigeon]

Maybe if the anky armor was even more segmented, I'd see it

But as it is, the anky just has one just back plate

Plus the legs and such

[limber hull]

how many more people are going to enjoy growing anky if it can go ankyball, rather than having to hunker down and accept death the moment a big bad predator sees them. This thing is probably going to be slower than stego juvis, so it really won't be able to run from anything

[jagged jewel]

also ankyball could get some serious speed i imagine

[fleet wigeon]

As long as it isn't absolutely Looney Tunes, I guess I don't mind it

No steering

[limber hull]

absolutely not

the hill takes you

you are at the whims of the hill now

[fleet wigeon]

I think it would be a strategical nightmare for anky parents

[limber hull]

i feel like any child is generally a strategical nightmare for the parents, and adding to that would be great imho

[fleet wigeon]

Predator shows up and instead of sticking close, your kids shoot down the hill to make the predator's job easier

[proven river]

[fleet wigeon]

Because once you come out of ankyball, you're still a slow, weak juvie, now farther away from your living tank of a protector and at the whims of whatever hungry carnivore wanders by

[jagged jewel]

fun

[proven river]

[jagged jewel]

an anky juvi could easy reach like 35 km/h in ball state

[fleet wigeon]

Honestly now I want ankyball just to have this strategy in my back pocket

[limber hull]

and collide directly with a tree

[fleet wigeon]

Or a rock

[jagged jewel]

and die

[limber hull]

i feel like ankyball, if miscalculated, will cause far more casualties than escapes

[jagged jewel]

risky, i like it

[limber hull]

big hill? dead. large tree or rock? dead. deep water? dead

however, it's fucking fun

[fleet wigeon]

Even if you survive the hill, now the hungry carnivore has you separated from the herd

[low canopy]

or the hungry carnivores are now stuck with ankyball and no escape

[jagged jewel]

ankyball towards his legs to break them

[limber hull]

like, conceptually, it's not even that useful, but i GUARANTEE more people will play anky and attempt to grow simply because it has a fun ability in juvi stage

[fleet wigeon]

True

[limber hull]

and sometimes, all you really need is something fun

[fleet wigeon]

Might make the boring-ass juvie stage every dinosaur is cursed with in this game something to do

[limber hull]

imagine needing to travel for diets and rolling around from hill to hill to reach your next nutrient

compared to waddling across endless plains and forests slowly

[fleet wigeon]

As long as it stops working at like, 35% growth at most, I'm cool with it now

You have convinced me

[limber hull]

sometimes, all you need is something fun, not something useful. I am an avid supporter of juvi niche separation, especially for longer growing apexes, and ankyball would make this otherwise slog of an animal have a little bit of fun and unique movement for at least its early life

[limber hull]

I'm assuming this is accounting for hattchling as well?

[fleet wigeon]

Ye

[limber hull]

yea i get that

[fleet wigeon]

Anything after that is pushing an already shaky concept too far

Now semi-aquatic anky, you have no chance to convince me of that lmao

[limber hull]

nah im on the same page

anky should dread water imho

[proven river]

mhm screw that

[fleet wigeon]

Especially with how the concept arts keep pushing spino vs anky

[wooden agate]

give anky underwater food

[proven river]

Wonder if it's gonna be stego and deino all over again where anky will hunt spino in the water

[fleet wigeon]

Blech

[fleet wigeon]

No

[wooden agate]

if its going to walk underwater anyway then whats the problem

[proven river]

why report people for playing the game? admittedly pachies killing tenos sucks but reporting them is shit

[wooden agate]

@regal smelt its a PVP survival horror game. deal with it?

[proven river]

mhm

[fleet wigeon]

It shouldn't walk underwater in the first place. I understand why the devs made that choice but anky will literally just sink like a stone. No reason to have it hanging out down there. Besides, we already have minmi as the semi-aquatic ankylosaurid

[wooden agate]

devs show anky sinking like a stone
IT SHOULD SINK LIKE A STONE

if its down there and thats one of its species specific features, might as well give it a reason to actually do it otherwise no one is going to walk around down there

[fleet wigeon]

They shouldn't be walking around down there

Having it be semi-aquatic would only encourage anky players to hunt deinos/spinos

[valid zephyr]

Yeah I don't think anky should be actually semi aquatic. Just too dense to swim so it walks along the bottom instead.

[fleet wigeon]

We already have a problem with stegos hunting deinos, and they literally just hang out on shore

[valid zephyr]

Tenoto though... I'd love that to have the ability to graze on water plants.

It's already a fast swimmer with all its diets around water.

Would also allow it to go to its proper size and not be carno fodder.

[urban flax]

A semiaquatic that cannot swim is a terrible idea

The fact anky sinks like a stone should mean it must AVOID water at all costs

[frosty willow]

@regal smelt wait for realism servers to become more popular

[dusk meteor]

Even non realism servers with no KOS rules would be fine. Rn, no ones really playing any unofficial servers though.
F

[balmy drift]

the devs should add a meter on the right of the server names that says the dino that u last had on that server, it would be very useful

[dusk meteor]

@civic sparrow if a velo did that it would be more likely to scale how a baby bird does rather than boost its jump. Baby birds can flap their wings to help them scale essentially vertical climbs.

[jagged jewel]

@civic sparrow its not going to be feathered by default

[urban flax]

How would you know ? We have no concept art or model of velo

Proto concept art doesn't count, what we see there is literally legacy velo, they probably haven't redesigned it yet

[jagged jewel]

why would they show a design thats outdated lmao

also the design probs wont change

and yes proto concept art does count + the poses kissen made with velo model

[urban flax]

Because they don't have a new one

The design of spino, anky, acro, alberto and dryo all have changed so far
They can change velo too, considering legacy velo's design was extremely bad

[civic sparrow]

Yes I was not going for realism, but more of a mechanic that isn’t visually unbelievable and is fun

[civic sparrow]

How do you know? The only raptor I know to not be feathered by default is Utah raptor

Unless a dev said velo wasn’t gonna be 👀

[unreal ridge]

I don’t think anky would have a breath timer of more than 5 minutes considering one it’s an ankylosaur and 2 it ability to go down there is for pure locomotion

If Stego can’t swing it’s tail while swimming

Neither should anky

[lucid mauve]

You mean stand there ? and hope a stupid deino walks on land ? Deino can choose to leave or stay in water.

[unreal ridge]

A more accurate term would be stegos starving out deino players because they output some much more damage and have so much more health

[urban flax]

@toxic mantle That's not contradictory

[limber hull]

it isnt contradictory, just weird

[toxic mantle]

Perhaps that was the wrong word. But its over promising like they usually do.

[dusk meteor]

But the anky doesn't swim. Why shouldn't it be able to swing if it's not even swimming?

Granted, if its in water I think it should be overall weaker from the drag but i think it should be able to swing since its not like its using its muscles to paddle and won't have to worry about being thrown off balance when it's firmly planted.

[jagged jewel]

so is utah’s design and they kept it lmao

[dusk meteor]

Utah is kind of a special case tho. A special rip off JP case

[jagged jewel]

@barren zephyr why would you give dilo venom to troodon

[jagged jewel]

that’s the opposite of special

[dusk meteor]

They should've changed utha tbh it was dumb to keep it
And yes I'm being sarcastic

[jagged jewel]

I love feathered velo but we know nothing so far

[lapis swallow]

they should just give the utah a fantasy name like speroraptor and everyone would be fine

[dusk meteor]

I would prefer feathered velo if they go for that. Feathers open up a lot more option in term of movement and mechanics.
That said I think they mostly shouldve changed utah not for feather but just because it puts them at some risk. Universal hasn't really cared by they have gone and ripped off their design and sound.

I don't get why they'd still keep a glaring security risk

[lapis swallow]

because its not universals design to have scaly raptors and if you put them into a side to side comparison you can actually tell that a few features are different (even tho its clearly inspired from universals raptor) and the sound is kinda altered so they cant do shit there.

[burnt bone]

They are, but that will change when they add the REAL utahraptor

[lapis swallow]

im wondering how the utah will be

[dusk meteor]

It's not just their physical design. It's also the sound. The 1 call is a straight rip

If they wanted to make a case, it could easily be done imo. It's more the question of whether they bother lol

[lapis swallow]

I think they have altered it a bit, which is enough to not get sued

[lapis swallow]

They cant sue on the physical design, its kinda different

[dusk meteor]

They probably could, but we can only guess. That still makes it a security issue.

You can'tcopyright a dinosaur, but you can a design.

And with the Isle opting to downright copy them including the errors and then just like add some spots and stripes
Lol
Idk. It's close. Just altering a design doesn't free you of risk either.

It's one of those cases which would totally depend on the judge imo

[hidden pilot]

@radiant hinge Pterosaurus didnt have talons on their feet like in the jurassic films, they were webbed, 4 toed feet that were only used for standing, walking and running

[civic sparrow]

@cosmic nest perhaps sleeping could also have some benefits like increased healing or something

[cosmic nest]

Ooh quite possibly! Maybe even increased stam regain

[civic sparrow]

Yess

[maiden anvil]

I can agree to that

[uneven mist]

@cerulean sand thats planned Yeah, i think allo wil be able to grapple smal animals or like dibble but idi if its confirmed

[cerulean sand]

nicee like i want the rex to have an ability where he can like grab you by the neck or something like that where it has u pinned and like the utah, you have to buck in order to get them off! i see it working imo

[uneven mist]

Well rex i belive is planned to have some sort of latch if i remember but plans might change

[cerulean sand]

also being able to pick up babies

that would be really good

[valid zephyr]

@bleak bison

[bleak bison]

🤝

We both had a part to play😏

[barren zephyr]

self quote

[fleet wigeon]

I'm all for realism but a realistic spino would have no viability in this game

[candid mulch]

Enjoyability over realism

[fleet wigeon]

I wish we could have both

[urban flax]

Spino should be able to shapeshift between its accurate form and godzilla (current) form

[civic sparrow]

And also fly using its sail

and climb trees

[maiden anvil]

I completely understand why people didn’t like my idea of anky feasting on aquatic vegetation (which I’m happy about because now the devs knows not to implement it) but my pachy idea made me confused why it didn’t get liked. Someone owe me an explanation to why before I get salty

@barren zephyr explain your self now

You do understand it’s just about the trot

However I’ll delete that suggestion and redo it. We’ll see how it goes then

[burnt bone]

Personally, i don't care if they decide to buff its walk or not, but it does have an impact on balance. Pachy is incredibly stam reliant in combat, and forcing it to sprint can help make sure it does not stay in combat too long. Teno has a great trot because its a brawler made to stay in combat and has high stam costs on its attacks.
Plus, we currently seem to have an influx of players thinking pachy is op because they got beat to death by a mob, so many of them dislike it.

It likely got mostly down voted because people either don't care, dislike pachy, or did not want it to be buffed in that way.
Plus, up5 seems to give pachy more stam, so running is not too big of an issue.

[jagged jewel]

^^^

[jagged jewel]

i think its only teno, not sure though

[maiden anvil]

I just personally find it extremely annoying to play as pachy when it’s trot is basically just another walk. That just force you to run all the time. And yes, this makes me salty

[jagged jewel]

i don’t mind trotting around at all, it depends on the player

just because one person dislikes it the devs arent gonna change it

[maiden anvil]

It’s whatever at this point duder

I feel like I lost and that provokes me

[jagged jewel]

there’s slower trots in the game

[burnt bone]

It may have been only teno, but early on at least I did see a pachy fully kill a carno with rams. And they nerfed ram damage.

[jagged jewel]

if they hit atleast like 3 headshots its entirely possible but i hope they did

[maiden anvil]

Deino and ptera doesn’t count to me as they have their own elements if you know what I mean

[jagged jewel]

well pachy as a whole isnt supposed to be TOO fast, and im pretty sure like dryo trot is slower

[burnt bone]

Its understandable, but I got used to it at this point. Honestly its walk is not too bad, but its trot is abysmal.

[jagged jewel]

yeah the walk is good

specially compared to carno walk

[maiden anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-im-out-gif-9335421

[noble vortex]

I don't see why they can't just open some public Q A servers just for people to run around on at this point

We've all been stuck watching videos and looking at screenshot, honestly I'm just starting to get bored of an update that hasn't even come out yet

[uneven mist]

Should have applied then

[barren zephyr]

we probably won’t get the update any time soon either lol

[barren zephyr]

🤓🤓🤓

[uneven mist]

👍

[barren zephyr]

[noble vortex]

Because everyone who applied got accepted?

[urban flax]

No but nobody who hasn't applied has been accepted

[burnt bone]

The Stress test servers are there to make sure they get good and accurate feedback. If the update was ready and in a stable state, then it would be released.

[noble vortex]

I'm aware

but I'm sure they could open separate servers unrelated to the testing

[burnt bone]

It would not be a good idea. It wastes resources and people will just complain that the update is buggy, or X is bad, etc. We just need to wait to get the finished product, no point in getting a rushed mess early.

[noble vortex]

Fair enough

Seems I just need to take a break from the game for awhile

[burnt bone]

Best way I can explain it is like a cake. Everyone wants a nice cake, but there's no point taking it out of the oven when its not done cooking.

[noble vortex]

No, I get it. I just didn't expect the cake to take so long.

[barren zephyr]

temperature must be really low

[burnt bone]

Hopefully the update should be soon, there does not seem to be too many issues, but there still are some.

[barren zephyr]

Utah pounce

[burnt bone]

that is one of them, but I remember one of the devs saying they have been working on it since update 3, and they plan to fix it once and for all. So hopefully we will not have these same issues with stuff like herrera and troodon.

[carmine path]

How long till update 5 approximately?

[noble vortex]

Thats one of the things that keeps me from playing evirma currently if I'm honest.. That and well, poor fps in certain areas. Ahh..

[burnt bone]

not sure. I'm personally hoping at the end of the month, since thats when they normally release updates. However, it could be next month.

[noble vortex]

There is also the issue of not being able to trust anyone accept the people you're in vc with, but thats just people being bored if anything

[burnt bone]

I'm not playing because the poor balancing, hitboxes bugging, and even herbie cannis

[noble vortex]

Sounds about right..

[burnt bone]

however, upate 5 should fix basically all of those issues.

[noble vortex]

Which is also why I want it so badly

[carmine path]

The Chinese need their own servers they ruin everything

[noble vortex]

But yanno, gotta wait..

[noble vortex]

As someone who played ARK of all things since it came out, I know exactly what you mean..

[barren zephyr]

how so? this game is doomed to be unbalanced till the day we get some more variety in playables

as of now it seems like a stale mate in terms of overall balance, you can only get so far with a handful of playables

[noble vortex]

I think they might've meant more so, hit box issues and bugs

[barren zephyr]

oh right sorry

[noble vortex]

It's hard to perfectly balance things, in any game really

[barren zephyr]

yeah hitboxes are extremely broken right now, definitely noticeable with carno and stego

[noble vortex]

Lol I got charged off a rock once

They just rammed into the rock I was on and I flew!

[barren zephyr]

Carnos charge box is so consistently large, that it ignores physical objects when you use it

it can literally ignore rocks sometimes and fling you to the next dimension

[noble vortex]

Took me to the afterlife..

[barren zephyr]

[burnt bone]

The main balance issues I was talking about was pachy, teno and carno, these can be balanced and should be much better next update. Everything else has major issues.

[lapis swallow]

Bro selfliked

[bleak inlet]

fr stegs just over the top OP

[hidden pilot]

Stego isnt op, its just things like pounce not working and deino not doing as much damage as it maybe should

[civic sparrow]

7 Deinos that can’t take a stego is a major skill issue....

[hidden pilot]

yeah that didnt seem correct to me either

[bleak inlet]

if we are on land as a deino and theres a stego

[civic sparrow]

But I do agree stego feels like a god right now, and cannot wait for it to get real competition

[bleak inlet]

say theres 6 of us and one of them, it can just hit us in the head like 3 times and we die

and it can hit multiple people at once

[bleak inlet]

like you said here, deino does nowhere near as much damage as it should

[burnt bone]

thats the key to the problem then. You're fighting a LAND apex on LAND as a AQUATIC apex that specializes in 1-shotting smaller dinos.

[hidden pilot]

i never said nowhere

[bleak inlet]

... not literally

deino does equivalent to the biteforce of a giga

if not same as rex

[burnt bone]

It really should not, that makes deino able to just bite instead of relying on lunge, and taking out MUCH bigger prey than it should.

[hidden pilot]

no, rex had the strongest biteforce of any animal i do believe @bleak inlet

[bleak inlet]

im not saying about it in game, im on about in general

[bleak inlet]

yes rex had the strongest biteforce but deinos are not far behind

[hidden pilot]

cope

[burnt bone]

Balance>Realsim every time

[cyan flame]

Well, the game balance comes before any irl statistics (except maybe sizes, more or less) in general, especially since biteforce in game isn't related to real life biteforce, it's just a damage number

[civic sparrow]

I think they made deinos bite force weak for balance

[cyan flame]

Well, balance + the mechanic really

[bleak inlet]

well yea the rex didnt do 1.5k newtons of force it did more about 80k i believe

but for the sake of balance

[cyan flame]

As someone said, if you give it biteforce then why bother grabbing and drowning stuff

[burnt bone]

exactly, it would be tanky, deal damage, AND be great at ambushing everything, it can't have it all

[bleak inlet]

but its slow as f on land

[civic sparrow]

And it might start trying to go on land and hunt like pot sarcho did

[burnt bone]

doesn't matter if everyone has to come to you eventually.

[bleak inlet]

water drain

[bleak inlet]

yes but thats why people have to be smart. check surroundings rather than just going in for a drink

[burnt bone]

So, the only way to counter deino would be to avoid it, but you have no idea where one can be?

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, maybe it wasn’t the best decision to add a 6 ton apex in a game with a bunch of not even 2 ton animals lol

[cyan flame]

Which is why people drink in safe spots more often than not if they can :p

[bleak inlet]

the only way to avoid a deino is to be cautious

[bleak inlet]

yes i know steg and deino should of been added later down the line

[cyan flame]

Also the best way to avoid a deino is to not go anywhere it can feasibly be, not the most thrilling counterplay but I guess it works :p

[civic sparrow]

I wish they had started from the smallest creatures and worked their way to the largest

[burnt bone]

for smaller things, sure. But it should not be much of a threat to most apexes.

[proud coral]

I still wish for the sandbox swap idea I had for Stego and Deino.

Add sandbox (great by itself) -> slap Stego and Deino into sandbox -> take them out of officials for now

[bleak inlet]

it should be a drowning threat in a bask of deinos . they should be able to drag it under the water, like in real life multiple crocs can drown elephants.

[civic sparrow]

I don’t think they would work together irl

[burnt bone]

They were going to do that, but they saw steg was ready and went "sure, lets make it playable, why not?" Then they worked on deino because they wanted water to be dangerous, not realizing what a pain that is to balance.

[cyan flame]

Honestly, seeing more than one adult deino in the same general area should not happen unless for temporary nesting

[bleak inlet]

yea they should of used more common sense

[bleak inlet]

or for a mating grounds

[cyan flame]

There really shouldn't be groups of adult deinos anywhere, deino is an excellent solitary choice and should probably remain so

[civic sparrow]

Yeah they should have added deino at the same time as other larger aquatics so it would’ve had competition

[bleak inlet]

but even then crocodiles and alligators do hand out around others

[hidden pilot]

they shoulda just done bary instead for early water predator

[bleak inlet]

bary or sucho would of been great

[hidden pilot]

sucho would be a bit big for current roster

[bleak inlet]

to match up with stego

[burnt bone]

bary would be pretty good currently

[bleak inlet]

if they added bary without us knowing i would be so excited

[civic sparrow]

Maybe austro to hunt the fresh spawns/hatchlings

[burnt bone]

sucho is even worse at doing stuff to stegs than deino

[bleak inlet]

its faster and can chase the stego down doing bleed

[civic sparrow]

Stego would probably obliterate a sucho

[burnt bone]

and then deal next to no damage and get 2-shot

[bleak inlet]

carnos can kill stego what makes u think a sucho cannot

[civic sparrow]

Sucho isn’t agile enough to hunt a stego, save that for allo packs

[bleak inlet]

stego shouldnt be that agile either

[hidden pilot]

a sucho was a fish eater not designed to have a good biteforce

[burnt bone]

because carno cant? they literally get 1 tapped. If a carno kills a stego, that stego has lost all higher brain power.

[bleak inlet]

a pack of carnos not a singular

[cyan flame]

That or the carnos are coming in more numbers than they should, which to be fair, isn't that uncommon as of right now :p

[bleak inlet]

yea

[burnt bone]

still, you would need a LOT of carnos and a very dumb stego

[cyan flame]

But really, a normal pack of 2-3 should not really be able to do much to a grown stego

[bleak inlet]

i have seen 5 carnos take out a stego

[civic sparrow]

And carnos speed + smaller size helps. Sucho is just a huge lumbering target

[bleak inlet]

sucho had big claws it could slash the stego

[civic sparrow]

Maybe enough could overpower a stego though we will have to see

[bleak inlet]

utah needs buffing towards pachys tbf

[burnt bone]

no thats a fairly balanced matchup currently, just utah pounce is bugged

[bleak inlet]

ig so but the fact that a pachy can alt hit p much all the time is not good, it would make it self dizzy irl

[burnt bone]

a singe pounce, even with buck, can do like 1/3 to 1/2 a pachy bleed, which a good utah can abuse to make sure the pachy can not heal.

[burnt bone]

you do realize that uses up a good chunk of stam right?

[bleak inlet]

a utah can bleed out a pachy yes with ease. but the pachy spams alt hits when utah comes near it cannot. and yes the alt hit on pachy takes 8 hits to drain but with a full diet u can regen one within 30 seconds

[civic sparrow]

Isle pretty rarely takes realism into account

Plus those 30 seconds is all a Utah needs to kill a patchy

Pachy*

Tire it out then KILL

[bleak inlet]

not if he only wastes half of his stam and times it correctly

dont forget pachy's are never found alone

or should i say rarely

[burnt bone]

Utah is mostly about baiting hits and dodging with their high mobility. So just bait attacks til the pachy starts to run low on stam and stops swinging, then attack.

Also, this fight should be pachy sided. Pachy is both slower and takes longer to grow.

[civic sparrow]

Well you can’t take groups into consideration when giving an animal it’s abilities/stats

[bleak inlet]

they have the same growth if i am correct,

[burnt bone]

ok I'm only going to say this once, you CAN'T balance dinos around being in a group. You know why pachies are only in groups currently? because they die if they aren't. Plus, just get a group of your own to counter theirs, easy.

[bleak inlet]

its not as easy tho

[burnt bone]

utah's is shorter by a bit, and carni diets make it always have perfect diet.

[bleak inlet]

group of pachy's > utahs

[burnt bone]

solo pachy > solo utah
I don't see the issue?

[bleak inlet]

ok well i gtg was good talkin to yall

[civic sparrow]

Cya

[bleak inlet]

Cya

[compact anvil]

trying so hard to figure out why people are disagreeing with @regal smelt can’t even play the game anymore cuz of herbivores that kill you just for existing. Wish people went outside more and watched how animals actually act lmao

[icy lion]

There are no rules on official servers, therefore there is nothing to report. If you wish to play on a server with rules about gameplay, you can find one of many servers in #unofficial-isle-communities

[compact anvil]

now that Nublar has been murked, it’s hard finding decent groups with more than 20 people. people just need to stop being so gd stupid

[hoary dawn]

players kill other players in a game with pvp elements, stop trusting random people and hide

[compact anvil]

hard to do that when you’re a pack animal

[runic steppe]

We aren’t animals. You can’t expect people to act like them.

[compact anvil]

then they should play on a 1v1 server or something. It’s literally a dino survival sim

some of us want to play how the game was intended

[runic steppe]

Survival from environment aaannnd other players.

[burnt bone]

theres no rules, and some people just like to ruin other people's fun

[compact anvil]

they’re really good at it too. 12 yr olds with nothing better to do lol

[runic steppe]

I sense a skill issue

[compact anvil]

hard to do anything when you get ambushed and 2shotted by a pachy

for sitting on a rock

[runic steppe]

Don’t get ambushed

[burnt bone]

Hopefully nesting should help with the issue. If someone puts in the effort to nest you in, they're likely going to keep you alive.

[compact anvil]

i hope so. it was so much more fun in legacy with the herd/packs. now you can’t hardly establish one

[burnt bone]

its also that currently, people are bored, so they just kill everything. which makes others not trust people and kill everything.

[compact anvil]

maaaan I just miss nublar😂😂

[compact anvil]

ok i’ll remember that next time 🙄

[runic steppe]

You have no excuse to get ambushed on a rock. And if ur small enough to get 2 shot you shouldn’t be in the open anyway. Can’t play stupid and expect to not get killed

[compact anvil]

it’s literally impossible to look in a 360° direction. Anyway, people are allowed to be frustrated

[runic steppe]

Yeah but let some of that frustration turn into a learning point instead of complaining about it.

[compact anvil]

I’ll learn to offload the game until people start acting right. I’ll come back when it’s playable

[runic steppe]

Ur better off nvr playing official servers then cause ppl are ppl and u can’t expect everyone to want to roleplay as Dinos

[icy lion]

@old sinew That's how the current system for U5 works. Parents can choose to make eggs public

[uneven mist]

@scenic cedar carno does not need a nerf, mabye make it turn like a buss more but its good rn, the problem is that its soo easy to grow and that there are too many of them, mostly bc of the free growth ride they get until 50%

[burnt bone]

and the herbies are the ones who are weak, I would buff them first instead of making every dino feel bad to play.

[uneven mist]

teno is fine, the only thing it needs is better stam wich it wil get, pachy is also pretty fine just make it so it turns quicker while charging wich is in the ST so thats good. The only herbies who need love are hypsi and dryo

[burnt bone]

Yeah, the stress test seems to have addressed most of my issues. Teno got more stam, pachy got better turning and a damage nerf (i think it got a stam buff too, but I may be wrong on that). Then tracking got nerfed, so thats most of my issues with balance gone. Now to hope gore fixes diets.

[uneven mist]

yes, GORE and diet rework

[uneven mist]

@quartz escarp amarga isn’t really smal, its around 4 tons and there is no reasion to add another playable to the already bloated roster, magy is fine as our smal sauropod

[quartz escarp]

ok

[uneven mist]

i would be fine fith amarga if the roster wasnt so bloated

[barren zephyr]

Don't they have a dino for that already?

[uneven mist]

a smal sauropod? yeah magy

[barren zephyr]

Lol so why do we want other versions of something that will fill the niche?

[uneven mist]

i mean...magy is around 1300-1700 i guess and the largest speciment was 4 tons...amarga was also 4 tons i think

[barren zephyr]

Yeah but what's that got to do with anything?

I'm 300 pounds. That don't mean nothing.

Add me to The Isle.

The Violatorasour, I vomit on things lol

[old sinew]

sick had no idea, thank you!

[barren zephyr]

No problem

[fleet wigeon]

@quasi vault I agree. The “current” ones are very bare-bones

Current in quotation marks because they haven’t come out yet

[limber hull]

idk, there is that one with the giant two stone spires that looks fucking sick

[fleet wigeon]

True, but I'd still like them to be closer to the concept

Much larger overall, with a creek or even a full-size river nearby

[fleet wigeon]

Inb4 people say Deinocheirus doesn't have meter-long claws:

[last lily]

Deinocherius has beautiful nails, how dare you.

[fleet wigeon]

Gorgeous nails

Cannot wait to show mercs exactly how terrible these hands are

[lapis swallow]

@fleet wigeon the auto hit is a bad idea, but I like the slash attack Idea that you have

[fleet wigeon]

It's just a possibility. Personally, I like the idea of Therizinosaurus charging full speed toward a rex, arms spread and opening it tip to tail, sorta like carno's charge, but I can see why some people wouldn't agree

[proven geyser]

@frosty thunder honestly the current nesting grounds are not even like 10% of what the concept art is and I know concept art does not mean it is supposed to come but like...if it isnt going to look anything like it why make it

I really want nesting grounds to really be bigger, and be a place for dinos to live.

I wanna see stegos / tenos and dryos making nests all in a huge herd growing babu dinos and just being herbivores

just need a rex to reenact that one scene from disney dinosaur

[fleet wigeon]

I'd also like to see secluded areas for carnivores to make their nests

The nesting ground idea is great for herbivores but nobody is gonna let Mr. and Mrs. Carnotaurus lay their eggs next door

So having small glades or caves for carnivores would be cool

[proven geyser]

I agree

[lucid mauve]

How is nesting grounds good for herbis? More poeple at one place, a hotspot. Where carnis run to when they are adult. And you need huge packs to take down big herds.

[proven geyser]

I think the current nesting grounds in game are good for like utahs. Like from JP3 when the raptors layed eggs on that one open area.
Carnivore nesting areas should be like the current one. Small and not so in the open.
Herbivore nesting grounds should be huge open areas with little trees but with water obvs and thats just about it

[fleet wigeon]

Fields, not dirt patches though. The concept looks cool but they're pretty ugly in-game.

[proven geyser]

no one is going to nest 24/7 so its just a place to gather. Eventually the need for food will make everyone leave. Nesting grounds should be just good for those who are going to nest.

[fleet wigeon]

Grass kept perpetually short by the generations of grazing herbivores

[proven geyser]

I know, just a patch of sand is not good imo

[lucid mauve]

Yea, but in reality that wont work. Since thats where people will go as carni. And you will prob hear sounds from the nesting grounds all the time. But you prob gonna need 3 rexes etc so take something down. Even if you kill something like a trike as rex you can prob get one shotted by a pachy after fight.

I was hoping they would spread people all over the map

[proven geyser]

A rex aint gonna go attack a nesting ground ngl

maybe different nesting grounds will have different food near

[lucid mauve]

Yea but still its a hotspot, way to safe to grow if you ask me.

[proven geyser]

i dunno but right now the current ones in game are just a disappointment and I dont mean any harm on the dev who made em. It's just the concept art really set the bar high.

[fleet wigeon]

That's... what a nesting ground is for lmao

The safety in numbers

[lucid mauve]

Well if you like to grow with ease thats fine, but this is supose to be a hardcore survival game.

[lucid mauve]

And that makes the game incredible boring , if you need to gather tons of people to even think about taking something down.

[fleet wigeon]

I do like to grow with ease because the gameplay really starts when you're an adult

[lucid mauve]

Yea, but getting to adult should be hard.

[fleet wigeon]

Also, trying to fight a huge herd with a huge pack is just not how it works. If you're a predator that runs into a bunch of herbivores in a herd, you go find something else to eat

[fleet wigeon]

Some people want to play the game for fun

[lucid mauve]

Like everyone i hope ? But if i can just choose to be in a big herd and have more or less nothing to fear, thats bad.

[limber hull]

The nesting grounds will only be safe for so long, you aren’t reaching 100% in there

[fleet wigeon]

That's the fundamental idea of what a herd is for. You won't have nothing to fear, but a herd backs you up and increases survivability for all parties.

[limber hull]

While I disagree with easy growth, I do agree the juvi phases need to be more fun, not more short

[fleet wigeon]

The fact that we're having a discussion at all is due to the fact that grouping up makes surviving easier

[frosty thunder]

Kinda like real herd animals? Hunting isn't just about killing. its making sure you dont get killed/hurt trying to feed yourself.

[lucid mauve]

Yea, i agree that beeing in herds are better for survival. But it should be far from easy grow.

[limber hull]

^ this. If you kill a juvi in the herd, the herd WILL eventually have to leave and you can get a meal

[fleet wigeon]

It shouldn't be super hard to grow either. I appreciate a challenge, but let's be honest, the juvie stage is the worst part of the game. You have to put up with it to get the reward of playing as an adult creature

[lucid mauve]

yea but in real they dont body camp and they dont run you down, the fight itself is one thing. But the problem with big herds is that you prob wont get food after the fight.

[limber hull]

They will leave eventually for diets and whatnot

[lucid mauve]

yea, but you are prob low on food already when attacking. So you might end up leaving

[frosty thunder]

On a server with no rules what did you expect?

People ae just do what they want regardless of your feelings. Plus the game at this stage is just a sandbox with extra steps

[lucid mauve]

ofcourse i expect that, that was forces people to be in big packs. Much better for everyone if people are spread around and you dont see 3 rexes all over the place

[ivory summit]

there is still 3/4 of the map

[barren zephyr]

guys

a question how do i inv some one to the party

[dusk meteor]

Hold your 2 call. They need to 2 call back. It can be a bit janky sometimes but just do your best with it

[uneven mist]

If its an smal tier then it should be easy. Mid tier a bit challenging but if its an apex then it should be hard

[dusk meteor]

Maybe. Depends what they go for. Having an in-built difficulty in the animals is pretty much what I'd consider ideal too, though I don't think it really works that way in the game itself since there's very little built in to actually challenge you.

[willow prawn]

So I don't know if I'm the only one but I had already reported this bug a few months ago. Indeed, I can't play correctly because the change of the arrow keys is completely buggy. I have already installed and uninstalled the game twice and no change. The problem is that the Q and D keys for direction duplicate or clear themselves in the settings. Which means that I can only turn either left or right.... Rather disabling.... Are there any tips or things to do to solve the problem? Because I only play with controllers but it's not better either because of course I can move but can't use all the attacks...??

[burnt bone]

I would recommend asking in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 they can probably help fix your issue

[willow prawn]

ok ty 🙂

[brazen quiver]

Do you guys think the spino will be a quadruped or on 2 legs?

[urban flax]

It will be bipedal

[urban flax]

Here is its new model

[brazen quiver]

Ooo noice

[lapis swallow]

The neck looks weird

[urban flax]

Of all things, you had to notice that the neck is weird ?

[lapis swallow]

It feels wrong, every thing looks like it belongs to the same animal

It stands waay to upright

[urban flax]

I don't feel there is a problem there
It's also in the middle of a walking animation

@barren zephyr You can try sending a dm to Punchpacket

[slate marlin]

damn I haven't played TI evrima since update 3 but those nesting grounds look especially atrocious omg

how can you not feel embarrased as a developer putting out something like that, within the time span of 6 months?!

[lapis swallow]

They look so baren

[slate marlin]

I don't know what to say... like I honestly have no words, it's just ugh

[lapis swallow]

But imma wait for 5.5 to complain, maybe they will update them

[barren zephyr]

random patches of dirt that slightly make your eggs incubate faster

could’ve at least put some trees around it and such

[lapis swallow]

Yes

[slate marlin]

this is the bottom barrel pit of doing the absolute bare minimum

[lapis swallow]

Imma wait for update 5.5

[burnt bone]

Well, their only map designer is working on a “secret project” so I’ll cut them some slack.

[lapis swallow]

I hope that its worth it, maybe a proper mountain biome

[burnt bone]

I’m thinking it’s one of 3 things: a new smaller map, multiple hotspots at once, or different biomes.

[slate marlin]

the problem is that it's never confirmed though the fact that Jace is working on another map from scratch

we can only assume

[burnt bone]

Never said it was the smaller map. Just focusing on something else.

[burnt bone]

Or it could also be something with humans, but I think visual has that currently.

[queen egret]

yall should ad mutations that would be great

[civic sparrow]

@obsidian herald that just seems like more unnecessary work, especially since people will just kill the baby and get a new egg

[burnt bone]

@scenic cedar that rain is from legacy. Weather is coming in update 8.

[obsidian herald]

Oh, hm, yeah

[scenic cedar]

Ok, i didnt know it was coming in an update as i couldnt find the roadmap on the server

[civic sparrow]

Having stuff like that def would be cool, it’s just I don’t think anyone would take an egg that would = a worse Dino

[obsidian herald]

Yeah that makes more sense

[burnt bone]

https://trello.com/b/G5tsb4XI/public-roadmap
That’s the link to the road map. You can also find it in the description and pins of #roadmap-updates

[scenic cedar]

thanks

[burnt bone]

No problem

[uneven mist]

@fossil venture deino is able to get water while its in a water source but it goes up slowly

[fossil venture]

I’ve tried for weeks now and it doesn’t work. I’m not the only one as well unfortunately

[uneven mist]

Wierd, Well i suppose report it to bug report so thats its atleast fixed or looked at

[fossil venture]

Got you boo thang

[barren zephyr]

Barf

[sick marten]

I'd really like the option to choose how scents are displayed tbh. I have such a hard time figuring out where the heck they are on the compass. The earlier iteration with the dots coming towards you was so much nicer and easier to grasp

[faint jasper]

Yeah I understand with the dots it was a bit intensive on some people's PCs, but it is VERY obvious exactly where the scent is coming from and I know a lot of people prefer that

[limber hull]

i actually liked the U3 particles idk

[faint jasper]

That's why I think the options are super important rather than forcing everyone to play with the same visual

[sick marten]

like, coming back to Evrima after awhile to the current scent system threw me for SUCH a loop....