general-feedback-discussion

[lavish quail]

Better have more game changing perks tho

like adding stuff to diets, or changing what your RMB does

maybe a carno one that adds bone break to charge but reduces its damage :I

[manic sun]

or like charged targets get double the dmg from bites for 5s

small abilites like this maybe

[lavish quail]

I want bigger more noticable ones being honest

but im thinking of them as optional which they might not be

If they are i can imagine a skill tree

If not they're gonna be super underwhelming like; less food drain, more damage

[manic flint]

I think they said it won't be as drastic as Bob's s tree

[lavish quail]

I hate bobs tree

its massive and can result in you instakilling stuff as pachy

[paper oriole]

Would rather not have basic shit like orange detail be locked off by eating oranges or people getting rewarded with an optional “cool” red eyes by committing cannibalism against their diets

PoT’s skin quests which are a lot like the orange thing are tedious and lame as well

[lavish quail]

Yeah its really annoying and unnecessary, especially considering some things take like 6h to grow

[manic venture]

Pot does a point system, I didn't mean that I meant like doing a certain task would give you a certain skin/color/whatever
like "jump off the highest mountain to unlock the skyjumper skin" or whatever

[paper oriole]

Imagine needing oranges for your diets but some goons ate them all to get orange detail

[lavish quail]

Lul poor dryos

[paper oriole]

Id be pissed lmao

[manic venture]

it would just spawn back

[paper oriole]

Takes time and adds unnecessary inconvenience to people whose gameplay is actually affected by the diet

Bad behaviour shouldn’t reward you with cool shit or shit you should already have by default

[manic venture]

okay well they could do something else, that was just a random idea off the top of my head, just world quest to unlock aesthetics like that would be fun

[lavish quail]

Locking stuff is dumb and takes even more effort for our already stretched the fuck out devs

[manic venture]

k well forget i ever said anything

[lavish quail]

I dont want to grow 5 spinos just to get all the skins for it

[paper oriole]

If it was something like special pattern layers that can happen with nesting, and if you grow to 100% then it unlocks in customization permanently then it doesn’t interfere as much

But it shouldnt be basic things that should already be there

[lavish quail]

Something that isnt you fetching across that map in other peoples business is fine

[lavish quail]

Like that ^

[paper oriole]

Like orange is a basic ass color its literally just vibrant brown i don’t want to do a quest to get orange detail

[manic venture]

then dont do the quest??

[paper oriole]

Then dont lock a basic ass detail behind a quest

Bad idea

[lavish quail]

Mid

[manic venture]

I was just thinking up way for people to do more stuff in the game

[paper oriole]

If something is locked it should be something cool

[lavish quail]

diets, nesting, gore, and more dinos should already make the game full enough tbf

[paper oriole]

And it should be rewarding you for good behaviour not cannibalism and hoarding diet food

[manic venture]

okay then eat the damn oranges and get the "I hate quests" skin, it doesnt have to be fucking orange, just a random example

[lavish quail]

Still seems like a bit much for a fast release update

[signal beacon]

...were you not here for when carno had fracture?

[lavish quail]

I was, very op

[signal beacon]

So how would a perk allowing that be any different?

[lavish quail]

Reduce damage

[signal beacon]

Ok? You're crippled. You cant dodge any further charges. Any sensible person would lose a bit of damage for what is likely the best tool to have, thus creating a meta.

[lavish quail]

Big damage reduction

[signal beacon]

Fracture. And if their isn't a lot of fracture no one will use it.

[lavish quail]

Just saying 🤷 perks actually doing something meaningful would be nice

[signal beacon]

Completely changing a niche is a bit meaningful I'd say

[lavish quail]

Yeash

Hypsi should get different spot for some perks

Maybe one that does damage instead of blinding

[signal beacon]

Hypsi is already the spawn of satan, giving them a ranged attack would be... oh god.

[lavish quail]

Perfect

[signal beacon]

Perk idea: rex has more speed and stam but les nightvision

[paper oriole]

Isnt diet already planned to affect hypsi spits affects. No need for perks

[signal beacon]

I eat a chili and spit fire

[limber hull]

that was merely due to the fracture damage on the carno attack being absurdly high. Fix that issue and you're good (also that was back when body fractures didn't let you sprint, now you absolutely could sprint after a body fracture, making it far more fair)

[signal beacon]

Still perks should be more specialization than changes to attacks. Just so much room for metas and unbalanced messes.

[limber hull]

i think that a fracture style perk for charge is fine. Helps specialise into using ambush tactics more, and fracture or not, its best not to get hit by the charge

[signal beacon]

Idk. If tons of animals had the ability to apply fracture it would kinda pull away from certain playables

[lime harbor]

@zealous violet multiple people would stash food and cause low fps

[last lily]

You're gonna need to pay me 2 Hypsis to access my food storage that's lagging out the server.

[lime harbor]

2 hypsis to sacrifice it is

[last lily]

I do kind of like the idea of storage though.. but I think it'd work best for burrowers... but then again that'd also let me fuck around as a burrower charging others to access my stash of food.

[lime harbor]

yeah burrowers would work because then the food wont render until in the burrow which wouldnt effect performance

[last lily]

"Give me two potato roots, and I'll let your tenoto friend have a radish root."~Some burrower snake oil sailsman

It would make Burrower gameplay interesting... aka completely unique lifestyle and gameplay(storing stashes of food that could make for... unqiue gameplay with humans and tribals maybe? Or burrower invaders in general... Don't let them become underground minecraft farmers though, because then that causes problems...

As for non burrowers stashing food.... We've seen what happens when people creating a bunch of flesh drops in the past.. It lags the serve out to hell and back.

[zealous violet]

That might happen, but that shouldnt be on the players that should be a consideration for the devs to take into account. They need to optimize their game better.
So we might not get something like stashing for years and years but the idea of it is pretty neat.
Its not unlike placing food into your nest like on legacy.
Perhaps there can be a 'create stash' mechanic which would then allow people to stash without crashing or lagging.

[glass swan]

um so...has anyone heard of a hacking deino? cuz i just got killed by one that went through the cliff at center and snatched me

[frozen heron]

@frosty thunder Did you mean to say dinosaurs could eat bones? Not bones eat bones? Haha

[frosty thunder]

Yea lol

[lavish quail]

Yeah they are all over evrimas normal branch

[lavish quail]

That’s up-6 in a nutshell

[glass swan]

Oh cool, yea cool, cool epic, amazing

🥲🔫

[lavish quail]

It is funny to see the only adult Dino on the servers kidnap your friends tho

[glass swan]

The thing is….I was 100%

[lavish quail]

QA?

[glass swan]

had just finished killing a stego and fighting 2 others and I was proud of myself just sitting on the side of the cliff and then BAM

[lavish quail]

🪦

[glass swan]

I thought the normal branch would be fun…. 🙃

[lavish quail]

Wait what were you

[glass swan]

A deino

[lavish quail]

5h knowing about the save glitch?

Dedicated i guess

[glass swan]

Wdym?

[frozen heron]

Theres a bug on evrima branch that if you safelog your dino gets wiped

[glass swan]

Oh yea Ik about that

[glass swan]

If u turn ur internet off and let the game kick u, ur Dino will save, I had that 100% deino for 4 days

[lavish quail]

Still an awful solution

[glass swan]

hey, does anyone know what the alt bite does of a ptera

[frozen heron]

Lets you peck things on land with a bit more damage

[glass swan]

ight thx

[paper oriole]

Does this poor soul think the isle cares about realism in 90% of its systems

Diets are a gameplay thing, not a realism thing

Deino diet does suck though

[odd token]

@errant tartan Totally agree, best example being No Mans Sky devs. What you can observe every single day is that people are typing in the feedback channels every day desperately trying to convince the devs of something that is already a consensus among the community that is playing this game compared to the devs. You and other people will get to a point where they'll realize that theres no point in giving feedback about this game, since the devs just have their vision of this final product, and won't let them change their plans by us.

[lavish quail]

Jesus Christ brutal

[lavish quail]

@unkempt cave gore

[lavish quail]

@wanton bolt ever tried centre pond

I mean

[paper oriole]

one of the herbi issues also is diets also upped the herbi on herbi killings

like there were a lot of herbi on herbi killers before that but it amped up

herbi diet plants have shit distribution which leads players into a deathmatch

[signal beacon]

"Let's add a diet system to get things out of center!"

"Ok how should we distribute the food?"

"Put it all in center of course!"

[paper oriole]

yeah lead all the baby pachies that are slower than a stego to center and also put almost every other diet plant there

then put mountain ash in the swamp only where mountain ash doesnt even grow realistically

coconuts should be able to spawn all along the coasts and coastal plains. mountain ash is a very versatile plant that grows in highlands as well, and all the plains plants should spawn in all the plains

[signal beacon]

The fact that coconuts spawn in the middle of the map but almost never in coast scares me

[paper oriole]

coconuts and sea turtles seem to mysteriously always find themselves in the center of the map

[signal beacon]

A toddler could have thought these spawners out better

[paper oriole]

tenonto's mountain ash should be replaced with the pond apple plant and mountain ash should be relocated to be used for something else or replace another plant on teno diet

and it should also grow along rivers as well

annoying to have all the plants stuffed in little zones

i always only find herbis in major hotspots while carnivores are everywhere else it is so bad

[signal beacon]

Cause if a herbivore dares to do what the devs are trying to encourage they will get fucked by debuffs

[paper oriole]

seems only one faction gets well spread food and even that food doesnt spawn correctly

the other faction gets herded to easy to locate spots to die

either by their own kind or carnis

[signal beacon]

Next patch: herbivores cant attack until they have taken damage

[paper oriole]

lmao honestly as stupid as that is i wouldnt be surprised

like sometimes they get buffed enough to defend themselves well but still a pack of 13 carnos rolls up

no matter how broken an herbi is it is outnumbered and punished for exploring the map while carnis are not

[signal beacon]

Rules servers just made herbivores cattle. I got kicked for attacking a carnivore that was crouching towards us. Reason :overaggro

[paper oriole]

ugh ive run in to that shit so much

[signal beacon]

Like 5 feet from me

[paper oriole]

over aggro for attacking a pack of carnis that has been following you for 10 minutes

the people who make those rules def got dropped on the head as a kid

[signal beacon]

Rexes were so broken cause if they got the first hit they won but you wernt able to attack the until they hit you

[paper oriole]

rex honestly wasnt even bad when compared to giga

[signal beacon]

Oh god giga

[paper oriole]

the worst thing about rex was how easy it was to grow and the groups that also had subs with them

i could dodge rex ambush pretty easy as most dinos and the rex ran out of stam fast

but giga pursued you acros the whole map

[signal beacon]

As much as I loathe giga I still love it just for how I was introduced to it in game

Its calls are just..

[paper oriole]

its calls are hot yeah

[signal beacon]

Too bad the players are the worst

[paper oriole]

my first death in the isle was getting KOSed on the beach by a giga as a fresh spawn raptor

my keyboard just dies in the middle of typing :1

a shame giga is losing his cool dewlap

[signal beacon]

My first death was as a pachy I got killed by a sub rex while I was still a juvie. Little fucker was circling me 3 calling then ran in killed me and one called

Probably his first player kill

[paper oriole]

lmao the people who broadcast after killing things too small to defend themselves

[signal beacon]

Why do they do that anyway? Not like it was an accomplishment

[paper oriole]

they think theyre hot shit

probably RPing in their head

[signal beacon]

The only times I one call after hunts is when I'm a dilo and I kill a rex or giga. And it's most to mock them

The amount of apexes who lose their shit once a dilo pack rolls up and humbles them is alarming

[paper oriole]

i usually like to keep quiet. dont understand why people wanna draw attention to their location for nothing except maybe a cringe screenshot of them standing over the corpse of a juvie

[signal beacon]

Dilos dont know quiet

[paper oriole]

i understand dilos and utahs do it to get on nerves though, same thig pteras do in evrima

so its kinda more valid because they know theyre being a little shit lol

[signal beacon]

I've been called so many slurs by apexes I've killed its amazing

[paper oriole]

makes the opponent pissed and more likely to mess up and waste stam sometimes too

[signal beacon]

They just cant fathom being killed by a non apex

[paper oriole]

main thing i miss about global

[signal beacon]

One time me and my pack hunted a giga who was apparently an admin and fought us for a bit, started losing, then starts slaying us via commands

Private server admins are just... something else.

[paper oriole]

ive run in to admins who heal themselves and their groupmates or /grow their groupmates when they die too its vile

grow and tp their groupmates in the mid of a fight

[signal beacon]

Dilos are just the best anti apex and I love it. Idk why they get so much hate

[paper oriole]

because theyre the anti apex probably

[outer sphinx]

i mean, who do you think is throwing the hate?

[signal beacon]

Ig. How much of the isle's playerbase do you think exclusively play apexes?

[paper oriole]

dilos and utahs are apex destroyers in legacy, except dilos dont have the docks rper reputation that weighs the utah down more

[outer sphinx]

at least half

most people bought this game to fulfill their jp fantasies

[signal beacon]

Although I will admit dilos aren't just dicks to apexes. We love to bully pretty much everything.

When I'm solo and I see like a large juvie I bleed them out for the funnys

[outer sphinx]

I expect of you to be a troo player

[signal beacon]

I will main the fuck out of that thing

Cant wait to annoy people with its mimic

[outer sphinx]

i doubt utah will get good any time soon so ill prob do the same then austro once it comes out, even tho im not as much of a fan of its gameplay as utah

[signal beacon]

I just like playstyles that involve being sneaky. So ambush and night hunters

[outer sphinx]

i just love the dromeosaurs/ troodonte

[signal beacon]

If I cant trash talk stegos as a troodon while they die imma be sad

[outer sphinx]

maybe to hopefull for that but who knows...

[lavish quail]

I just dc'd in a brawl with 4 utahs

I want to die

Rip that pachy i guess

[paper oriole]

The game DCed me last time i was on pachy too lol

Making same species glow in a radius, unable to hide, would be incredibly abuseable by both mixpackers and same-species KFSers

Imagine some carnos teaming up with their friend in vc while he plays an herbi just to hunt people unfairly with the outlines

[worn pumice]

Same species highlighting would be a cannibals dream

[manic sun]

what if the higlightting applied to every species? Tracking things is kinda hard rn just by audio

[worn pumice]

thats even worse

imagine escaping a predator only to be highlighted

"man that was nice i just escaped the carno, too bad im glowing pink"

[paper oriole]

thats such a bad idea i cant believe you typed and sent that without realizing the absurdity of it halfway through

as for the audio, it is pretty shit. legacy had much better audio pinpointing, they should just fix evrima's

[manic sun]

no I mean like u do a call and then u get highlighted

or any noise really

[paper oriole]

oh we already sort of have that same-species

bad hunters dont need help by having the game highlight people though, thats absurd levels of handholding

name tags already pop up same-species after talking

[manic sun]

ok yea u defenitely got a point there but still tracking just by audio SUCKS and footprints don't show up at all

[paper oriole]

the audio should be fixed

footsteps randomly stop registering and calls are hard to pinpoint because they seem to echo

they should just fix that

[manic sun]

totally agree

[paper oriole]

also often hard to judge how far away a call is because deinos and carnos can be heard halfway across the map

even had a loudass tenonto call blurt in my face but then i saw it across the field, sounded much closer

[worn pumice]

Calls have been an issue in evrima for awhile

[paper oriole]

they seem to have been an issue from the start

[worn pumice]

They have like weird echos and u don’t know if their right next to u or a mile away

[paper oriole]

in legacy i had a very easy time judging location and general distance from a call but since evrima launched the sound has been wonky

[worn pumice]

^ ye

Maybe it’s cuz of the new call system?

[paper oriole]

its like the calls are echoing in an emptied out sewer

[worn pumice]

Ye

[paper oriole]

especially deino calls, they sound like they are reverberating on metal from a distance

[worn pumice]

Yes deino calls r the worst

[paper oriole]

like they are coming from some underground tunnels

[worn pumice]

I swear I hear them everywhere but when u go n check it’s only a juvi deino

[paper oriole]

hopefully it isnt intended, since it hasnt been touched on yet

[worn pumice]

R calls fixed atleast

[paper oriole]

somewhat yeah

[worn pumice]

Cuz like for example stego one call whether u hold or not is the exact same

[paper oriole]

utah r calls sometimes get weird but nowhere near as bad as the broadcasts

[worn pumice]

I know some species won’t have all their calls hold and not hold

But broadcast and threat call should have variations between all species imo

[paper oriole]

i noticed no difference on tenonto's held calls vs tapped calls

[worn pumice]

Yea the calls must still be a work in progress

[paper oriole]

i wish there was a quick 4 call and a long cry for help 4 call, a quiet 3 call warning and the loud 3 call.

[worn pumice]

^

Maybe like holding a 4 call is a cry

But touching it is more of a danger alert sort of call

[paper oriole]

yeag and tapping is more of a "run away i see some bad shit" call

[worn pumice]

Ye

[paper oriole]

dryo has a good exampel of a quick call but he doesnt have a "AGH MY ORGANS THEY'R ESPILLING OUT OF MY BODY" call

[worn pumice]

Ye

The new feedback in general is just

[paper oriole]

"HURRY UP!!!! but dont make it shit"

[worn pumice]

Lol

[paper oriole]

pick one lol

[worn pumice]

Only in islecord

Also anything of stegos or deinos tier is gonna be awhile away

[paper oriole]

if utah wasnt trash and could take down stegos in proper sized packs then stego wouldnt be a big issue

[worn pumice]

See Utah pounce when it works is pretty good

They just need to fix it

[paper oriole]

none of that old utah killing stego solo or in pairs shit we used to have, but utah rn is hot garbage

[worn pumice]

Ye

[topaz cedar]

how are people playing the packy and have a diet system already?

[paper oriole]

QA servers

[worn pumice]

Go to the QA branch of the isle

[topaz cedar]

you mean in the discord?

[paper oriole]

go to properties in the isle steam menu, betas and then click quality assurance branch

[worn pumice]

No in steam ^

[topaz cedar]

ohhhh okay but why is that not on evrima

[paper oriole]

its a test before it gets released

to iron out bugs and balance issues

[worn pumice]

Cuz fracture system and other stuff isn’t technically finished

[topaz cedar]

okay so theres 3 versions of the game lol nice

[paper oriole]

its sort of a test run before a buggy, laggy, incomplete and poorly balanced disaster is pushed to the live branch where everyone will see it

[topaz cedar]

i see now thanks

[frozen heron]

@ember chasm What is ESP?

[worn pumice]

Extra sensory perception i think

basically being able to see underwater, infinite stam, see through bushes, etc

[ionic trellis]

Yikes, two Utah’s hacking on NA 1 QA. Great work! You got me lol fuckers

[paper oriole]

before they think about nerfing or buffing utah pounce numbers they should fix the pounce so it actually works

[worn pumice]

imagine utah pounce is super op

but u dont even know becuz its broken

[paper oriole]

yeah its hard to know because of that

if it is balanced, weak or op

[worn pumice]

i did it a lot today and it only broke for me once

maybe 5 times actually

[paper oriole]

i couldnt land pounce on a stationary dryo ai, it sent me through its body like 5 times. my friend couldnt land a pounce on my stationary ptera, he kept flopping right off

[worn pumice]

the isle

[paper oriole]

even when he made impact with my ptera with pounce while i was landing he bounced off after

the isle experience

[worn pumice]

this is peak isle performance right here

[warm flame]

earlier today I got pounced by a utah and it was floating at the tip if my tail, it looked really weird when I bucked it I couldn't tell if it got flung off or what

[crystal minnow]

@tight oxide so if the stego gets away from the deino it will then regrow a leg or wtf??

[tight oxide]

The leg breaks

Thats it

[limber hull]

honestly, give deino's normal bite fracture damage imho

[crystal minnow]

With every bite?

[limber hull]

yea

bite = fracture damage

bite the body of a stego enough = stego gets body fracture

its a fucking 8 ton alligator, that bite force SHOULD be bone-shattering

[lavish quail]

I also thought i cut of its leg at first

[crystal minnow]

The weight of an animal does not apply to the bite. And e stego leg is not a twig

[limber hull]

im not focusing on weight as much as the fact that it's a fucking gator. If anything is worthy of a bone-breaking bite, it's the giant gator

[crystal minnow]

I would agree that a frontal headbite would kill the stego.

[limber hull]

also i never implied a stego leg is some kind of twig. It would still take several bites to cause the fracture

[lucid mauve]

off, bonebreaking on croc. Lets keep that thing in the water : P

[limber hull]

what would fracture on deino have to do with it being in the water lmao

[lucid mauve]

Your saying croc should have bb right ?

[limber hull]

im saying that it should have fracture damage

i do hope you realise fracture and bb are entirely different features

[lucid mauve]

If anything is worthy of a bone-breaking bite, it's the giant gator. I saw you said this, so i tho about bb. Fracture yes, thats something else

[glass swan]

about that death-roll ability mentioned in general feedback, i think instead of grabbing bigger prey and causing bone break, it should be able to drag anything bigger than what it can grab. like, a deino could grab onto a stego leg and slowly drag it backward into the water. the bigger the prey the harder it is to drag into the water, causing more stam drain like the grab ability, the prey can struggle like with utah pounces draining more deino stam but also draining some of the preys stam too, if a full stego is being dragged into the water by a deino, it probably wouldnt need to struggle, but if a 80% stego was dragged, then it probably should. just a matter of how fast the deino is dragging u and how far from the water u are.

[manic sun]

but it still wouldn't change anything since if a deino will always run out of stam nothing changes and if the stego runs out of stam first then u could automatically give it a oneshot attack

Deino needs some mechanic which takes up way more skill than just lunge to kill bigger prey imo

[lavish quail]

Doesnt really need to kill bigger prey

Steg just has nothing better to do

[manic sun]

but like where is the fun and ESPECIALLY the challenge of just pressing RMB and drowning small and mid tiers?

[lavish quail]

Ohoho

[manic sun]

I'm not growing for 5h just to be able to oneshot a utah

[lavish quail]

the fear you educe on them is worth it

But yeah it needs fracture damage 100%

[manic sun]

absolutely

It just kinda sucks that deino is literally helpless against a stego

[lavish quail]

Reduce its damage in water

[manic sun]

like, they're just getting bullied

Ok YOOOOOOOO bigbrain idea. What if you'd have to hit and bonebreak particular body parts or limbs from bigger prey to be actually able to drown them?

or like every species has a weak point to lunge at. Stegos tail for example, u grab it and pull it into the abyss or smth like that lol

[lavish quail]

you would need the tug of war thing they wanted to add

but thats a mess with models

[manic sun]

yea I'm also not sure about the tug of war thing

seems to unreliable for me

[lavish quail]

Know what else is unreliable but really needed

[manic sun]

but what if like u bite a stegos head it gets stunned bc of the fracture and then ur able to drown it. And that for every species that is bigger thanu except stuff like apato or brachi

[lavish quail]

hypsi should be able to ride things

Anyway deino is hard to balance and needs something to stop steg :p

[manic sun]

Or what if u can lunge at a weak point of ur target, making it lose its balance and then u can chomp on it with the bonebreak

[manic sun]

yea it really needs some changes

[errant tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-staples-fax-it-do-be-facts-tho-its-the-truth-gif-16329641

[barren zephyr]

fracture on deino would make it more interesting

but what would stop it from grabbing, then dooming prey to swim in the middle of a river?

[manic sun]

deino is too big imo

[lavish quail]

should be bigger, but not in the isle

[worn pumice]

I’m sorry but grabbing the tail of a stego is the dumbest thing I’ve heard

How do u even grab giant spikes lol

[paper oriole]

Deinos grabbing stego tails like

[manic flint]

Deinos when kentro comes out

[manic sun]

not the spikes the end of the body basically

[urban flax]

It would make more sense for a stego's weakpoint to be its head

[worn pumice]

what

oh the end of the body

that still sounds stupid since u can just get whacked

just use the head

[manic sun]

not if it isn't watching u or drinking, but yea if I think about it the head might be a better weak point

I thought people would start crying if deino could like just pop stegos head or drown it when it manages to lunge right at its head

[worn pumice]

u dont need to make it pop to make it a weak spot

[manic sun]

ok, but I think stego should have a REALLY HIGH dmg multi. on its head

like deino could just tear it apart in less than a second

which would be bad for balancing but u get the point

[worn pumice]

it does already

[outer sphinx]

headshot multipliers have been in the game for god knows how long

[worn pumice]

wait i dont understand u say u want it to have high multi but you know its bad for balance?

[outer sphinx]

afaik its 1.5

[manic sun]

really? ppl say it has only like x2 multiplier

[worn pumice]

which is a lot every other dino has 1.5

[manic sun]

no I mean deino could just literally bite its head off and THAT is would be bad for balancing

allthough I'd love it tbh

[worn pumice]

well ye ofc

[outer sphinx]

if it actually is 2 thne deino does 1k damage per headshot

[outer sphinx]

so many more dinos can 1shot but we def dont want that

[worn pumice]

yea its remained 2 deino 6 shots stego technically 7 tho because of the hp heal

[outer sphinx]

deino would do on hs as much damage as stegos thagomizer

[worn pumice]

what is stegos tail dmg ik its above 1,000

[outer sphinx]

iirc its 1k exactly

[worn pumice]

that cant be possible tho

Stego one shots carno with a head shot right

[outer sphinx]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan flame]

1250 I think?

[outer sphinx]

i mean add the 1.5 multiplier to 1k

[worn pumice]

carno is 1800 hp 1.5 X 1000 is 1500 so it must be more

[outer sphinx]

didnt even know it 1shot carno lol

[worn pumice]

oh ye it one shots carno, headhshot only tho

[outer sphinx]

so now stego 1shots all the land carnis

[worn pumice]

yup

although its not a great bragging right when utah is just a rat and carno is a skinny, small tier hunter lol

[manic flint]

Stegos spikes can literally go in some side and out the other and each spike is huge in comparison to a carnos face

[glass swan]

ik im a bit late but, the only reason a stego EVER gets killed by a deino is because its being cocky and thinks its the shit, a stego could simply just....walk away, but nah, they always swingin into the water and shit. this goes for future dinos its size, literally everything that isnt 1 shot(or grabbed) by a deino can just avoid it. need a drink? go to shallow water. need to cross a river? take a detour and find shallow water. so many ways to avoid deinos yet they never take em.

[manic sun]

I haven't seen a single dead stego in the last MONTHS

[glass swan]

u mean like, deadly stego?

oh

[manic sun]

mb lol

language barrier kekw

[glass swan]

i think ppl are finally realizing that deinos can actually fuck up stegos and so theyve recently been more careful

i used to fear stegos 24/7 but now i just learned how to solo one

[worn pumice]

I almost died to a deino as a stego like a day ago

going inside me so i do much less dmg while it does more

[glass swan]

thats kinda the strat, the deino needs to just bomb rush the stego or it will get headshot and die within 5 hits

a deino can tank a stegos hits if it just alt bites, every time ive solo'd a stego, im like at a sliver of health

[worn pumice]

but u have to do it fast cuz that method doesnt work very well anymore since they changed how hitboxes work

if the stego moves up the fight is over

[outer sphinx]

and watch in the comming weeks we get a bunch of nerf deino

[glass swan]

fr

[worn pumice]

dw it wont happen all the stego needs to do is move up a bit and attack it'll win

[low canopy]

if the stego moves then its better to just retreat to water rather than die trying to keep up

[worn pumice]

^ yes

[outer sphinx]

you say like they learned to do that

[low canopy]

i dont think the match up is that poorly balanced at all, even though it does favor stego slightly

[worn pumice]

your right isle player moment lol

it should be favouring the stego anyways since stego is forced to drink water

[outer sphinx]

here its either dont go or fukin send it

no smart plays

[glass swan]

stego mains are too cocky to use strategy, they just think they will win all the time

[worn pumice]

yup

its funny how it rly isnt too hard to do all u gotta do is move up even a little and then the hitbox will be a body hit

[low canopy]

most deinos are pretty garbage at the game and try to ass bite and other nonsense so its not surprising

[worn pumice]

but the isle players so

[glass swan]

yup, its just the dumbasses saying nerf this and nerf that, its really....not.....that....hard

[worn pumice]

theres still carnos that facetank tenos

[glass swan]

carnos are a forbidden word here

they need to get re-extinct

[outer sphinx]

i can see why the devs wouldnt look in feedback with all this bs salty comments

[glass swan]

its just a ton of the 🧂

[outer sphinx]

and stuff that either is broken, too good etc just gets flooded by bs

[glass swan]

ik, the devs just need to fix their shit and we good

[worn pumice]

utahs carnos and stegos mix packing

[outer sphinx]

rn the only thing that needs balanced (not fixed bc for fixed theres a lot) is pachys alt

[glass swan]

i have literally not a single brain cell that knows how to fix that problem

[worn pumice]

im a ptera so I can just watch this cringe fest unfold

[low canopy]

pachy is a balance nightmare, it needs to somehow reliably get bone break to carno without making the animal a KOS machine

[glass swan]

honestly, the devs need to just backtrack like all their code

[outer sphinx]

Evrima 2.0

[worn pumice]

isle phase 3

[outer sphinx]

But now its just Dondis face and Isle logo

[glass swan]

it would all be fixed if we just had blobrex

[glass swan]

.

[paper oriole]

i HATE that the beaches are lined with cliffs to make them unaccessable

like its pretty easy to dehydrate to death mere feet from fresh water while exploring the beach because of the stupid cliff

[worn pumice]

it would be nice if clinging was useful

[azure wadi]

Look at that sexy bastard

[worn pumice]

fatcro

[meager tiger]

@finite canyon Perhaps you don't get much or none reward for killing a young dino. Hunters IRL don't go around killing fawns lol. It's just not right. Make it so you are encouraged to kill adults for population control

@heavy pecan you do realize a frog can kill a elephant

[cold sorrel]

This may sound nuts but I haven’t been drinking that much.

What if you had 2 stam bars 1 for movement and one for attack/defence (special ability). Your attack/defence will take up to 4 times as long to replenish then your stam. This will stop everyone needless killing people for no reason as it will leave you defence less. Once your att/def stam is out this will leave you with the option for herb players to run away or for a carnivores a failed hunt.

[paper oriole]

Arent the frogs poisonous though unlike troodon who is venomous. More comparable to a king cobra but still bad for game balance if a few troodon bites offs a several hour growth animal

[meager tiger]

Buts that's the point. A small animal evolves to make predators less likely to fight it. Hell some animals even mimic deadly animals even though they themselves are defenseless. Poison/Venom is a adaption evolved for both defense and offense

So maybe don't pick a fight with a troodon nest?

[paper oriole]

??? You do realize the troodon will be faster than the huge ass animals it can suicide bite for the lols

If it was that op

Kinda awful logic to be using in a video game

[meager tiger]

Isn't this a survival nature game

[paper oriole]

It has literally nothing to do with “picking” a fight with the troodon

[meager tiger]

?

[paper oriole]

You just want troodon to be disgusting op because you plan on maining it is that it

[meager tiger]

No

I don't like small playable

My favorite is raptor and allo

[paper oriole]

Because having a troodon simply bite a several hour grow animal and just sentencing jt to death is vile levels of OP

[meager tiger]

Isn't that what the lizard will do

Follow it's prey

[paper oriole]

This isnt real life, troodon players will kill themselves just to take you down with them

[meager tiger]

Wait till it collapse

Like a giant komodo dragon

[paper oriole]

Will the lizard bite a rex and the rex just dies because woopsoe doo you got hit just take your hands off the keyboard now its over? No

[meager tiger]

No it takes days

It's a infection

[paper oriole]

And when did they say itll give infections

[meager tiger]

It's a giant komodo dragon

[paper oriole]

And?

[meager tiger]

Well idk how a lizard is gonna survive dino hell. Can't climb, water is crowded. Too fat to run or dig

[paper oriole]

Komodos use anticoagulant venom iirc, the bacteria thing was debunked. I'd assume they can invade burrows at least while young, would have above average swim speed and could easily be made to have some climbing capabilities as juveniles. They’ll probably have a decently easy time hiding in dense jungle

If theyre aiming to make it like actual komodos then its venom will probably be legacy dilo 2.0 on the bleed

But none of that bs of a low tier animal just sentencing a high tier to death with a nibble

[worn pumice]

islecord

climbing seems to be the best option for mega imo

not like herra climbing but basic climbing that allows it to escape

[paper oriole]

Most quadrupeds should have above average obstacle scaling imo

When it comes to things like logs, rocks and steep terrain

[worn pumice]

stego

i wanna see an anky climbing

[manic flint]

Baby komodo dragons climb trees so it's likely megalania will do the same in game as a baby
And we know it'll burrow too

[paper oriole]

Yeah monitors are pretty good climbers when they arent huge and fat

Also decent swimmers and can fit in holes

[manic flint]

They do have anticoagulant venom too
All are decent swimmers

We found areas for the venom sacs

[paper oriole]

Low to the ground as well ao they wont stand out in the jungle

[manic flint]

Yes

[worn pumice]

mega seems like a fun playable

[paper oriole]

So can nibble somebody’s ankles in the jungle and then follow them around and try to prevent them from nurturing their bleed

[manic flint]

It'll be decently fast, high acceleration with low stam

[worn pumice]

speaking of climbing, isnt utah supposed to have climbing eventually

[manic flint]

Yes

[worn pumice]

well more like a scramble but

[manic flint]

Not as good as herrara
Average

I guess

[round orbit]

Question: I've recently lost a 100% growth Deino on Evrima #3 no idea why, logged out, came back and it was gone. Any way I can get it back at all?

[paper oriole]

Nope

[manic flint]

Server was either restarted or it was the base branch where the safelog bug still exists

[worn pumice]

crazy how thats not patched

[paper oriole]

Best to just play on freegrow servers on live branch if you dont wanna grow for 5 hours just to lose the dino upon safelog

[worn pumice]

literally breaks the game

[manic flint]

It is
In the mechanics branch

[paper oriole]

Rip

[worn pumice]

[paper oriole]

Weordly though qa branch doesnt always break because i got stuck in a cranny as ptera, logged hoping it would get deleted, then came back the next day and it was still in that cranny

[manic flint]

Just be like me and spend more time on the discord than playing the game

[worn pumice]

why play the isle when you can talk about it

[paper oriole]

I feel lucky that i enjoy smalls more so i barely lose shit with the log bug

[worn pumice]

I just want quetz and herra

[manic flint]

I play teno and pick fights with carnos so I always end up with a kdr of 5 and then die

So I rarely safe log

[paper oriole]

I want ovi (to not be a shitty mini galli)

[manic flint]

I want kentro and sucho most

[paper oriole]

I worry for kentro i hope hes good

[manic sun]

Spoon poggers

[paper oriole]

Closest thing im gonna get to miragaia in the isle

[worn pumice]

i just wanna see a good climbing system with trees

kentro should def punch up

[paper oriole]

Yeah if it doesnt punch up itll be fodder

So its gotta

[manic flint]

Should be immune to deino lunge from behind
Charge and pounce too

[worn pumice]

pounce should not be possible same with anky

[manic flint]

Just insta impale

[paper oriole]

Pouncing a kentro on its spikes should turn you in to Swiss cheese

[manic flint]

They are like half a meter each

[worn pumice]

kentro and diablo need to punch up to survive

[manic flint]

Kentro and Dibble should be decently quick tho due to their smaller size

Dibble is getting a downsize too

[paper oriole]

I hope styraco is badass when it gets in in 50 years or so

[worn pumice]

highly doubt their gonna outrun alberto carno or allo

it would look very strange if they did

[manic flint]

True
But spikes
Any non headshot should do more damage to the attacker

Than to kentro

[paper oriole]

If this horn doesn’t hurt like fuck then what will

Also rearing its head back as a damaging antipounce

[worn pumice]

so like is styraco and trike the same thing

[paper oriole]

No

[edgy harbor]

@barren zephyr Did you submit a bug report?

[paper oriole]

Styraco smaller

[edgy harbor]

And mark the location down?

[paper oriole]

Pachyrhino is closest to trike size afaik

[worn pumice]

pachy is quite large and I like that it has a nasal horn instead of a regular horn so it'll break bones instead

[barren zephyr]

i did

[paper oriole]

Pachyrhino should be a pretty damn good fracturer

[worn pumice]

it should

[edgy harbor]

okay thanks

[paper oriole]

Maybe a tier below rex and anky on the fracture scale

Well above average

[worn pumice]

deino c. scares me ngl

[paper oriole]

Cherry?

[worn pumice]

ye

[paper oriole]

Cherry is like giant grizzly bear galli i hope hes good

[worn pumice]

the meaty claws r so nice

its like theri but less claw and just giant hands

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/big-meaty-claws-mr-krabs-spongebob-squarepants-blue-fish-claws-gif-7387164

[worn pumice]

should they add 8.8 trike in

cuz that thing is massive

[paper oriole]

Yeah make triceratops great again

[worn pumice]

legacy one was garbage

[paper oriole]

Legacy was ez solo for giga and rex

Free food

[worn pumice]

ye

giga especially

literally 3 bites thats all it took

[paper oriole]

Giga suffered less injury than rex killing trike

Giga was busted as shit vs trike that was undertuned as shit

[worn pumice]

nothing should be able to facetank a trike

except for sauropods ofc and maybe shant depending

[paper oriole]

Horned ceratopsians should be the kings if facetanking

No head multiplier and big fat damage output. An ambush should be the tactic for taking out a trike

[tepid gate]

This is... just absolutely wrong

[paper oriole]

Id imagine a brachi stamping a trike would be like me as a kid when i stepped on a conch shell spike and it spiked up in to the center of my foot

Not worth it lol

[tepid gate]

Idk what you were doing against a Giga to make it suffer less injury than a Rex does but you were playing it really poorly if it didn't end up on last screen

[paper oriole]

I barely played trike ik speaking from experience as a giga

[tepid gate]

Meanwhile Rex can easily dumpster a Trike without going to last screen by the time Trike died

[paper oriole]

Trike isnt worth growing and wasting time as

I never got to last screen against trike as giga

[tepid gate]

I've played both - I've won against Gigas quite a lot, against Rex? Twice - in both cases Rex was bad

when I play Rex I don't even get to last screen by the time the Trike keels over

[paper oriole]

Ive never been killed by trike as giga either its a disgusting animal

[tepid gate]

I mean... I've never died to a Trike as a Rex either

[paper oriole]

Giga was the most op apex

[worn pumice]

legacy trike is terrible

[tepid gate]

It's definitely more possible to kill a Giga than a Rex as a Trike

[paper oriole]

Legacy trike was a big mac on legs

[tepid gate]

Not to mention - the vast majority of the players playing Trike are hot garbage

out of all the apex players Trikes are on average by far the worst

Also - no, it didn't take 3 bites to kill a Trike

[paper oriole]

The vast majority of people playing apexes in general are hot garbage

[worn pumice]

still doesnt change how bad trike is

[tepid gate]

Trike is bad yea

[worn pumice]

hopefully its reworked better in evrima in the far future

whenever that is

[tepid gate]

The only time in living memory when Trike was good was in December 2018

past that point it was kind of bad

[paper oriole]

Para and trike deserve justice

[worn pumice]

oh yea para

[tepid gate]

Para is the definition of The Isle's balancing

[paper oriole]

Para aka giga chow

[tepid gate]

going from the most broken animal in the game to one of the worst

Because the devs slap a bunch of nerfs to one animal while throwing multiple buffs the way of the others

[worn pumice]

pretty sure this same thing happened to trike

[paper oriole]

Didnt dondi say para was supposed to run away, comparing it to a deer, before then nerfing its mobility

[worn pumice]

it was very good at one point but the nerfs happened

[tepid gate]

nah, Trike is a different case

What happened to Trike was

[manic sun]

the devs have no, NO IDEA how to balance a game, they should literally listen only to the community imo, but its their own game so I'm fine if they do whatever they want to

[tepid gate]

prior to Dec 2018 it roflstomped Gigas and was dumpstered by Rexes

In Dec 2018 Rex lost its 10% of health damage on its bite

[worn pumice]

listeneing only to the community is a disaster but it is good to look at feedback every once in awhile

[tepid gate]

ending up with just 550N joke of a biteforce

Trike was rolling it over

Giga was really weak at the time vs other apexes

you could 1v2 Gigas as a Trike at the time

[paper oriole]

Just listening to feedback would be listening to all the salty carno mains rushing in any time an herbi can defend itself

[tepid gate]

Then Rex got its buffs, Giga got its buffs while Trike was left behind

[worn pumice]

if trike had bone break it might've helped it but they removed it for everything except rex

[tepid gate]

If Trike had bonebreak it would probably be decently good

It has the best attack rate out of all the apexes

Its issue is that it gets nuked down

It's also just outright not really worth growing since you have a meh/outright bad match ups against other apexes while taking just a bit shorter to grow

and also having a rather awful growth

Really Rex is the only apex with a good growth in the legacy

Trike and Giga are both a joke

[worn pumice]

agreed

i would have to say trike is the worst growth and honestly most big herbi growths r probably gonna be like that mainly since their whole motto is being big and powerful which as a juvi isnt possible

[tepid gate]

Well this is of course assuming that such a thing as "good growth" even exists

Giga is equally bad, it's the second slowest animal in the game at the subadult stage

it only outpaces Trike

That's because it's bugged but it's still the case

[manic sun]

I think trike will make a big comeback with how broken apex herbies are now and bc of collision, it was so stupid that u could literally run through the horns as if they were idk a plastic ornament lol

[tepid gate]

I think it's pointless to think about it

[worn pumice]

herbi apexes arent broken

[tepid gate]

None of those animals are going to be added to the game for ages

[frozen heron]

Its legacy, everything is broken

[worn pumice]

oh yea legacy is broken

[tepid gate]

They're talking about Evrima

Pretty sure it was about Stego being broken

[frozen heron]

Trike in evrima? lol

[tepid gate]

Read this ^

[worn pumice]

technically its hard to tell if stego is even broken because of the roster

[tepid gate]

It's a bad animal in its current state

[frozen heron]

Stego is one of the most boring animals ive ever played

[worn pumice]

the jab is an awful method of attack imo

[frozen heron]

Next to carno, probably

[tepid gate]

Stego is the most boring animal I've ever played

[frozen heron]

But stego is worse off because nothing is a threat

[tepid gate]

I've grown it to full adult once when it came out

and have 0 intention of ever touching it again

[worn pumice]

Stego is extremely boring since theres literally nothing threatening it

[tepid gate]

To me it's boring because it's Stego

[worn pumice]

apart from utah packs but utah rn is

as an actual stego player, it is just boring to play straight up since its almost impossible to die

[manic sun]

stego is top tier next comes carno/teno then deino, pachy, utah and then comes the rest no one cares about

[tepid gate]

Tenonto that low?

with 360N tailslam?

That's literally the third most powerful attack in the game

[worn pumice]

teno is honestly pretty high rn

[manic sun]

true might put it up to carno actually, decent juvi killer imo

[tepid gate]

Tenonto dumpsters Carno

[frozen heron]

Teno is actually viable now so its popular

[worn pumice]

^

[tepid gate]

Viable is an understatement

I don't think this animal has ever been as good as it is now

and it was already really good on 3.5

[worn pumice]

whats the difference between 3.5 and now

is tail slam dmg the same 360?

[manic sun]

I've heard ppl say u can kill carnos now if u stun them as a teno. Is that actually true?

[frozen heron]

Yes

[manic sun]

WHAT THE FACK

[worn pumice]

ive killed many carnos as teno

[tepid gate]

Carno losing 1/2 of its damage output and Utah being hotgarbage compared to being an actual threat

[tepid gate]

You can 100 to 0 them in one combo if you pull it off properly

[manic sun]

utah is a dryo with bleed "damage"

[frozen heron]

Cocky carnos who try to facetank your attacks will die
Source: Had a carno try to kill me when it unknowingly missed its charge and died to my slams

[worn pumice]

when pounce actually works it isnt bad

[tepid gate]

It's still worse than it was on 3.5

and Utah was hardly a threat to Tenonto at the time

[worn pumice]

a lot of things r worse after 3.5

[tepid gate]

Well you needed quite a couple to make it sweat

[manic sun]

I really hope that they'll add the charge pounce thing

[frozen heron]

Packs of utahs do well sometimes, i lost a carno to them yesterday, but they lost like half their pack in the process

I died to blood loss so they did what they were supposed to do

[tepid gate]

Tenonto was one of the best animals back on 3.5 and now all of its competition is just much worse

If you're doing badly with this animal atm you have only yourself to blame

[worn pumice]

only time ive died as a teno was when fighting megapacks

its arguably one of the best dinos in the game

[tepid gate]

It's either the best or the second best

[frozen heron]

It's one of the only dinos that you actually have to learn as well, dont you

[tepid gate]

Idk if Stego should be considered better or not

[frozen heron]

A good tenonto player at this stage is a beast lol

[tepid gate]

Well it's not surprising considering how broken this animal is right now

[frozen heron]

Its not really broken

[tepid gate]

It is pretty broken

[frozen heron]

But i already know your take on that

[tepid gate]

360 damage on a 1.6t animal

[frozen heron]

With an attack that takes a lot of stamina in rapid succession and punishes those who make a mistake, yes

[tepid gate]

You can throw it out 10 times

you take out 80% of Utah's health with a single hit

[frozen heron]

To be fair utah is garbage

[tepid gate]

It really doesn't punish those who make mistakes

You have to play like a headless chicken to mess up as a Tenonto atm

[worn pumice]

I would personally ignore stego for now since theres rly no other dinosaurs that compare to it at the moment

[frozen heron]

It's able to hold its own in a 1v1 which is all that matters to me

[tepid gate]

Idk if I'd ignore it since it might just be better than Tenonto

[mild dune]

Add fish back into the game. Removing them was a stupid decision lol.

[frozen heron]

They're still in the game.. huh

[worn pumice]

wait what

[tepid gate]

To say that Tenonto can hold its own in 1v1 is like saying that Carno could hunt a Tenonto when it had bonebreak on its charge

[mild dune]

They're gone bro :U

[frozen heron]

I usually find fish even when im not deino or ptera, idk what you're on about

[tepid gate]

Not on the QA, they're not

There's been loads of them last time I've played Deinosuchus on the QA branch

[mild dune]

QA?

[tepid gate]

They are only gone on the livebranch which will likely delete your Deino anyways so you'd better not grow it there anyways

[frozen heron]

Quality assurance

[tepid gate]

The mechanic test - quality assurance branch

[mild dune]

why were they removed from the live branch

[tepid gate]

it's available in the betas same way as you joing Evrima

[tepid gate]

They weren't, it's just that their spawnrate is really bad

idk why either a bug or some intentional test

[mild dune]

Huh. That's odd. Is QA new? It wasn't here last I was on back in may. Or maybe it was and I didn't know

[tepid gate]

QA is a mechanic test branch

It's like a... beta branch of Evrima

which is used for testing, you access it the same way you access Evrima - by going into steam library, pressing properties, choosing betas and then picking the branch you want to play on

[mild dune]

That's a little odd, but if there's fish there at least they exist somewhere lol. Ty for the info, man

[tepid gate]

It's not really odd because that build isn't yet ready for release

QA branch has been opened to help with testing the diet mechanic

There's still stuff missing there

but you can play e.g. Pachy which isn't normally available on the livebranch yet

[gusty remnant]

Is the compy a confirmed playable?

[tepid gate]

No, it will/is an AI, likely won't be playable on officials

you will definitely(?) be able to play it on the community servers at... some point... presumably

[gusty remnant]

Awesome

[limber hull]

@stable mica Stego is really the only animal I feel should dehydrate slower, it's a massive slow plains beast, it shouldn't have to dip back to the water all the time. Teno lives very close to water, so it dehydrating quickly isn't an issue since it is usually always in proximity to water

[signal beacon]

They ruined the map and made every animal need to drink every 2 seconds for dumb river worm

[spice shell]

insect diet yum

[barren zephyr]

@rare fractal to allow Unofficials do whatever they want

it's why we're still getting playables, mainly apexes, which (most likely) wont be playable on Evrima Official Servers.
Whilst on Unofficials, they will have the ability to turn them on.

• that includes everything. Including Mercs, Tribals, strains, etc

[rare fractal]

Then that’s fine

[barren zephyr]

si

[rare fractal]

I’m just hoping you’re right

[barren zephyr]

I wouldn't expect Compy as a playable in Official Servers.
Although we have no confirmation on yes or no.

[rare fractal]

Yeah the lack of confirmation as to what compy is going to be is what worries me, especially since a concept art for it just released

[barren zephyr]

Going off of a few years of what the devs have said.
They want servers to be fully customisable

[barren zephyr]

I mean, Phase Two is a sneak peak- not a this is going to be in, always, what's in next update!

yes, some things will.
But not everything in phase two will be added soon

[rare fractal]

Yeah but it would be nice to get concepts for more prevalent content tho

[barren zephyr]

that's a tapwing thing.
Seeing as the Compy concept art isn't just about Compy, but also about gore, scavenging dinosaur niches, and insects.

This concept art dossier is more than just "Compy"

[rare fractal]

True

Although only barely, the only info I gather from it is that deinos will have a teeth cleaning mechanic, and that compies will eat gore, which we already knew

[outer sphinx]

I have to say, if Ai ever gets that good in the game, i'd really like to have compies clean your mouth like it does with deino there

[paper oriole]

Wtf another “carnis drinking water to get hunger” suggestion

[outer sphinx]

holup... another?!

didnt know there were more before

[paper oriole]

#general-feedback message

[outer sphinx]

oh my...

[lavish quail]

@worldly ginkgo has given up

It’s all cool til hypsi one shots a single compy

[outer sphinx]

you mean sneeze

[lavish quail]

Bro compy is gonna die trying to climb off a corpse

[outer sphinx]

sheer gravity force kills it

[lavish quail]

Smh too light to stand the pressure of oxygen 💀

[worn pumice]

I got D2 for free and I still want a refund

[signal beacon]

@unborn monolith just so you know I think day is 45 minutes while night is AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES.

[unborn monolith]

yeesh XD I hope not

[worn pumice]

[outer sphinx]

i feel you, and im close to buying DLC now too

[worn pumice]

I think i'll just let it hang in my library so it looks cool

[outer sphinx]

😎

[worn pumice]

[outer sphinx]

me who is close to 100h as f2p...

[worn pumice]

keep grinding

[wicked osprey]

I bite something 5 times no blood travks fking bullshit man

[paper oriole]

Combat engagement rules for officials?

Is that what this person wants

[hoary dawn]

yea everyone knows that when animals are born they're handed a rulebook of what they can and cant do to other animals

[wicked osprey]

Single rule for survival is thinking "is it worth spending energy to do x?"

Is it worth living anymore?

[wicked osprey]

From what kind of mental disorded to people who play pteras that always follow u like stupid dogs and 1 call spam?

Need to put a timer on that shit

Now with the buffed juvi ptera stamina they can follow you for longer and screech like fucking autists

[hoary dawn]

they are either trying to annoy you or are scouting for a pack

or both

[violet magnet]

@north hemlock "If the final game was Subscription based I would pay it. "

fastest way to just kill the game right there
or...one of the fastest, at least

[hoary dawn]

if people wanna throw money at the game they can just buy merch

[signal beacon]

@clever thistle that would just make scouting for your friends easier. Pteras already do that

[paper oriole]

Even as a ptera i have other pteras flying up to me and screaming in my ear it makes me ashamed to be a ptera makn

[last lily]

They just want to notify you about your car's extended warranty or about how you can save 15% or more off the diet system with Geico

[paper oriole]

they want me to know about new crispy chicken pretzel fries at burger king. crunchy pretzel on the outside, tender juicy white meat chicken inside. new crispy pretzel chicken fries, or try original chicken fries. only at burger king

[honest sparrow]

The more you increase herra size the more it becomes Utah with monke traits

Herra is just fine as it is, it doesn’t need to be upsized so it can be closer in size to a Jaguar or whatever, also wouldn’t a better comparison be a leopard?

[toxic flame]

i just didnt want to type jaguar/leopard lol they are kind of similar they both climb trees to an extent

[honest sparrow]

Not really

[toxic flame]

also as herrera is right now its would probably be super weak and neither do i want it to be strong on its owns i dont want it to be like utah but its just really small and if its going to even be able to raid maybe ptera nest or anything at its size it wouldnt last very long

[honest sparrow]

It’s still big enough to be in the same weight range as stuff like Dryo, Austro, Utah etc. it’s more than big enough to effectively hunt the mostly expanded small roster as well as do it’s own thing of hit and running larger targets

Herra is a hit and run goblin that doesn’t need to be particularly bulky, it works perfectly fine at its current size

[toxic flame]

utahs is like 2 times its size im quite sure and will basically one or two shot it

[honest sparrow]

Utah is like 2x the size but J really doubt it’ll two shot it

Unless you count pounce

[toxic flame]

herrera is quite dependant on trees and even then what will stop a dryo from just escaping a herrera? its looks like it would be too weak at its current state to do anything

[toxic flame]

utah is said to one shot beipi

[honest sparrow]

Beipi is like a fourth the size of herra

[toxic flame]

beipi is decently close to herrera

nah not really im pretty sure while herrera is of course bigger it is close

closeish

[honest sparrow]

Eh

[toxic flame]

close enough that herrera cant take any hits

[honest sparrow]

I mean that’s it’s thing, it’s an arboreal ambush animal that pins stuff like Dryo and grabs chunks off of bigger stuff, it’s not really meant to brawl or outmuscle most stuff

[toxic flame]

but it should still have some thing like compared to ptera how will it be able to raid nest of any kind if a pt could kill it before it climbs up

[honest sparrow]

You’re telling me a Ptera, who does no damage after the nerfs, and has trouble attacking things that are close to objects like trees and rocks, is going to outmuscle a larger herra that can climb and leap around at a decent speed

[toxic flame]

herrera isnt that much larger then a ptera ptera actually does a decent bit of damage to loser class amd they are updating hitboxs on trees and rocks basically changing the tree and rocks in themselves

im saying herrera it doesnt need much size for it to be real good just a minor size increase would be good maybe even less of an incrse then what i said before

[honest sparrow]

Probably like twice the size and again, herra is clinging to stuff, yeah the hit boxes will get changed, but are you expecting a Ptera that relatively struggles with stuff like juvi Utah is going to regularly take down something that has basically all the tools to kill it

Also if it’s just a minor size increase ngl I don’t understand it

(And a weird side note I looked it up and Jaguar size would actually be a downsize so idk)

[toxic flame]

minor size change can honestly make a good differnce it doesnt need much i think that little buff would still be great

jaguar as in like dinosaur terms i mean cmon have you heard of jaguar bary?

[honest sparrow]

I mean how many interactions does it actually change? A tiny health boost? It sure can’t pin anything else

[toxic flame]

dryo, ptera, litterally anything smaller then it maybe just enough that it could take more damage from a utah

[honest sparrow]

It already pins those

How much does Utah even do currently?

[toxic flame]

dont really know honestly

[honest sparrow]

If it apparently one shots Beipi I’d guess like 55? 60?

[toxic flame]

few people said it would probably one shot beipi so thats what im going off of

[honest sparrow]

Hmmm

[paper oriole]

God i hope herrera doesnt get upsized

First there was a ton of “make troodon bigger” shit now herrera like please no

[worn pumice]

id rather not have herra be big

it'd be weird to have a giant climbing dino

[paper oriole]

Yeah with a lot of animals, bigger doesn’t mean better

“Bigger is better” usually applies to brawling and defensive animals, not hit and run, whittle-down or speed build animals

Herrera is going to get dunked on if it trades hits even with a size boost so it would be useless

[worn pumice]

a size boost is just unnecessary

its supposed to be nimble and climb trees

making it heavier would make it perform worse at its main fun factor

[gaunt canopy]

? Why does it take 5:30 hrs to post another suggestion?????

[worn pumice]

so ppl dont spam

[gaunt canopy]

I deleted my suggestion and then it wouldn’t let me make another one

That is fucken bull shit

[worn pumice]

u could've edited it

[gaunt canopy]

This is wat was going too put before it wouldn’t let me .........
I think it would be a good idea to have heart attack button so if get stuck you give your Dino a heart attack so you can respawn and escape but of course have a timer to prevent spam suicide and people who trash the server with bodys

[gaunt canopy]

Some people edit things differently than others

[worn pumice]

[zealous violet]

Seriously, what the heck is wrong with this games discord populous? Ya'll, I post a suggestion and instead of reacting or tagging with some actual criticism or constructive reasoning, ya'll just post shrugging emojis and laugh emojis. I really dont get it the brains behind a lot of people who are on here because its certainly a different mindset of people than those on some of the servers I play on both legacy and evrima.
I dont just post random nonsense I think would be cool (And when I do, I always specify that its silly or just a dumb thought) I actually try and do a little research on the extremely off chance that the devs decide to look at it.
Im just confused and tired and going to bed now.

[manic sun]

It's the TI community don't expect too much

from anyone

[lavish quail]

@dark dock utah*

Also cool idea but only for larger creature where it doesn’t look dumb

So not anything we have now

[dark dock]

yes thats true

[lavish quail]

Maybe like magy

And larger carnivores

[dark dock]

yes

[outer sphinx]

imagining a utah latched on the underside of carno

or stego

[lavish quail]

Lul

[outer sphinx]

it'd probbe better if pouncing the face would make a small animation where it latches in some way to the front and kicking in the face with the claw, you can't do it continuosly like normal pounce but does more damage as its hs

[manic sun]

what if we make utah more of a pack manipulator? Like u get slowed down from pounce and if u get ur ankles bitten or smth like that lol

would punish smalls and mid tiers bc if they get hit their mobility will be reduced but I mean u first gotta slow them down and for apexes it isn't much of a deal except they might not be able to get to a better position

[outer sphinx]

smalls almost all will get pinned by utah withc few exceptions like minmi and pachy but even those might just be pseudo mids

[manic sun]

I think pounced animals shouldn't stand up in a second lol

tbh every animal should get slowed if its legs get bitten, maybe not bonebreak like but 25% movement speed reduction would be nice

[wicked osprey]

Did they nerfed dryo?

[worn pumice]

This is islcord expect the worst of the worst

[paper oriole]

Latching on to a dinos neck with pounce seems like youre begging to get slashed and trampled

[outer sphinx]

what about my suggestion?

[paper oriole]

Haven’t reached that yet one sec

lol i was looking in feedback for it didnt realize it was in here

Pouncing the face directly could be good or very bad for a raptor. Does add another outcome and option though, would be nice to see pounce have more outcomes than 1.miss 2.teleport on to the flank

[outer sphinx]

well its more of a kick really, short animation of latching and one kick-slash to the face

think Indoraptors fight anim in JW:E2

[paper oriole]

Dont think ive seen that yet ill look it up

[outer sphinx]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/423939730544132096/913781576255569941

[paper oriole]

Looks like he does that wall kick trick but on the side of the dudes head lol yeah that could be something

Instead of getting a miss or being teleported could just do that

Maybe risk getting grabbed mid kick

[outer sphinx]

but on the head it wouldnt latch, you cant hold on to it as well pretty obvious so its just one action not smth you can choose how long it lasts and counts as a hs

[paper oriole]

I could see holding on being worth a gamble in some cases but a simple kickoff to apply bleed on the face and damage from the kick could be a good move on its own when aiming there

You were talking about the move at 1:22 in here right

https://youtu.be/CI2-yAhtuTM

[outer sphinx]

wait im gonna try to rephrase it, its not like side pounce where you can hold it, for the head you cant hold on no matter what, its alwasy just gonnabe a short latch and a kick (counting as a hs and giving bleed) to jump away from it

[outer sphinx]

yep, cant hold just a quick latch to the face to kick it in the head and get distance

[paper oriole]

Yeah i think that would be pretty good

[outer sphinx]

also this could just be the idea for charge up pounce, just pressing it does that just less bleed and damage while charging it allows you to jump further and latch on to the only the sides

and if you tryy to charge and pounce the head its just does the kick one

[paper oriole]

Utah doesnt strike me as the latch on to the throat/nose and choke kind of guy like the other feedback, but the indoraptor's kickoff move would look good on it

Would be much better than the current outcomes

And fit utah's agility build

[outer sphinx]

might post it in feedback

[paper oriole]

Ill be waiting to thumb it lol

[barren zephyr]

bruuh im rly looking forward for the update.... i want to play evrima so damn bad

[wicked osprey]

@tired flame hello, i dont know if i an supposed to tag devs but basically all eu and na servers are down, thank you and sorry ☺️

[jovial hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-for-your-sacrifice-thank-you-for-your-selflessness-i-appreciate-your-sacrifice-jesse-eisenberg-columbus-gif-15263077

[wicked osprey]

Inb4 banned

[lavish quail]

A noble sacrifice

You will go down in history

"@ Filipe Thessaeonosaurus hello, i dont know if i an supposed to tag devs but basically all eu and na servers are down, thank you and sorry ☺️"

[wicked osprey]

🐸

[lavish quail]

Keeping that there for when your screwed

goodbye old friend, twas a good run

I hope to see you in a better place

Oh yeah for when he inevitably comes here

Filipe add an emoji to the #rules-and-info title; they are invisible to the naked eye

[jovial hazel]

Don't you have to react to the rules before you can even view other channels?

[outer sphinx]

yep

also they arent invisible for me so ye...

[lavish quail]

Yeah but who reads them pfffft

[jovial hazel]

Then what is adding an emoji going to do?

[lavish quail]

idk make it more visible

did it with bug reports

[gaunt canopy]

I hope not

[worn pumice]

You have my gratitude and my respect

[paper oriole]

even small bonuses to things like speed, health and damage can disrupt balance

[rocky oak]

#general-feedback message
@signal knot Don't like RNG either, but variation is interesting. Make it a selection where people can select, say, tankiness vs mobility, while respecting that probably you need a TON of tankiness to make up for the little mobility you're not getting by not choosing it. Mobility is pretty OP in a game where you spend most of your time running after food.^^
There could be other choices too, like better stamina and health regen, less food drain, etc.

[honest sparrow]

Ah hell na why my Utah raptor going karate kid on a trikes head doesn’t he know 😭

[signal knot]

Ok

[warm flame]

good lord 11 programmers

[bleak atlas]

@kindred flare they have 4 programmers. Only 3 are working tho, because foszor has brain cancer

[kindred flare]

Oh, nvm then I thought they wouldve had more

[gritty helm]

the wrestling between Megalania could be relegated to one of the more aggressive emotes in the game (assuming that's still gonna be a thing) but I like the idea regardless

[lavish quail]

Humans are so close

gimme themmmmmmmm

[wicked osprey]

Finally the mute expired

Such a drastic punishment

🥴

[manic sun]

for what lol

did u ping a dev or what

[wicked osprey]

I pinged filipe yesterday informing him that all servers were down except AU, then got muted, then all servers were restarted

[worn pumice]

u have my eternal respect for that lol

[manic sun]

ohh I remeber now, dolor transit gloria est perpetuum (latin for: pain is temporary glory is eternal) welcome back chief, we appreciate ur sacrifice

[wicked osprey]

Haha

Took one for the bois

[lavish quail]

You have reached a level of respect no one else can

[viscid mauve]

Question - I still seem to have issues not seeing footprints, even after logging... anyone have this issue?

[lavish quail]

Herbi or carni?

[viscid mauve]

Carni

[paper oriole]

Ive been seeing footprints only in occasional patches and not a consistent trail, that isn't an intended change?

[viscid mauve]

I havent seen any whatsoever

no matter where I am

[paper oriole]

I havent been seeing my own footprints whatsoever, the other dino prints must be bugged then if theyre doing it

[viscid mauve]

makes it impossible to hunt :\

[limber hull]

you cant see your own anymore

also try tapping q to see footprints

[limber hull]

that's intentional, you need to select a footprint trail to track

[paper oriole]

Ohh so its the new carni tracking system i heard of

[limber hull]

if you tap q over a footprint, they turn blue and its easier to follow them

[viscid mauve]

even when I was being chased down by 3 tento, I couldn't see any tracks xD

[paper oriole]

I figured it may have been intentional, though if no tracks appear whatsoever then yeah weird

[limber hull]

your ability to smell tracks decreases the faster you move

[viscid mauve]

Aaaah interesting

[paper oriole]

Track patches appear as you near them without even using scent too ive noticed

[jovial hazel]

You can basically turn off tracks by tapping scent key though. So if you tap it to see the compass it also turns off tracks.

[viscid mauve]

I was trying to hunt a baby stego but even sniffing they got away. I was completely at a full stop and still no footprints

[jovial hazel]

Yeah, I think scent is mainly for smelling blood tracks, you seem to be able to track regular footprints without scent.

[limber hull]

you dont need to use scent, tracking is seperate from scent now

[paper oriole]

I noticed a ton of tracks patches when growing utah hut never really used them, well now i know how to i suppose lol

I just scavenged like a pleb

[viscid mauve]

honestly same lol but its getting harder to get such good luck at finding a dead body xD

[paper oriole]

I had to go for the sketchiest of dead carno body piles with aggro herbi calls in the distance i guess i scored lucky

[viscid mauve]

are there any new calls I should be listening for when hunting like deer and boar and frogs?

[jovial hazel]

They don't call like the AI Dinos.

[paper oriole]

Boar only make noise after they are aggroed and deer/frogs do literally nothing as far as ive seen

[crude girder]

Imagine expecting scientific accuracy from the game with JP raptor

or giant mutant Dinosaurs

or Skimming Pteranodon

[manic flint]

I can still wish for a little accuracy

[paper oriole]

imagine actually using the cringe running takeoff on ptera

[hasty dagger]

Don’t even care about accuracy, the running takeoff just looks dumb

[tepid gate]

Pteranodon's take off is hardly about "scientific accuracy" it just looks ridiculous. Almost like introducing Rex into the game and having it punch people instead of biting them.

[barren zephyr]

hm yes

[outer sphinx]

and running takeoff ptera

[gusty canopy]

is there any thing to do or not do, that prevents your dino to be deleted after logging off?

[lavish quail]

glitch with current evrima, should be gone soon

[gusty canopy]

I heard someone said they wouldn't fix until next update?

[lavish quail]

Updates close to release yeah

[gusty canopy]

ok

[lavish quail]

hopefully soon

[wicked osprey]

soon

Its been soon for like half of the year

[lavish quail]

Eh Tuesday seems like a fit time ngl

[wicked osprey]

More like this year seems like a fit time at this point

[urban flax]

Yesterday you said monday
Is your faith already faltering ?

[lavish quail]

No just my sense of when the 30th is

i though it was monday lmao

[wicked osprey]

I still got faith in the devs tho, im expecting huge improvements

[urban flax]

They do need some people who believe in them, to compensate for the hundreds that just keep shitting on them non-stop

[lavish quail]

You mean the paleonerds

"this dinosaur isnt smooth and unoriginal remove it!"

[urban flax]

Paleonerds are far from being the worst
I don't know what's your gripe against them

[lavish quail]

Mainly the utah complaints aswell as the magy ones

thats a war crime

[urban flax]

Magy complaints do not originate from paleonerds
People just use the irl argument because they hate magy and it's easy to use it as a proof that it's not viable

[lavish quail]

Ikr

Im talking the mega paleo nerds tho

[urban flax]

And the Utah complaints are absolutely justified, current model is ugly

[lavish quail]

like the die hard ones

[lavish quail]

Its only the wrists!

[urban flax]

Without die hard paleonerds this game wouldn't even exist

[lavish quail]

I thought this game was a JP fever dream by dondi

[lavish quail]

But like the really tight ones

Ones that you cannot win an argument with because everything you know is a lie

[urban flax]

And Utah's wrists are the least problematic of its inaccuracies imo
It might pose a problem later once feathered skins are in, because it needs regular not-pronated hands to have good-looking arm feathers, it's a model and anatomical issue
Well it would probably need normal arms, who know how they will look with feathers

[lavish quail]

Turns out spino doesn't look cool and is actually a snake ass looking thing with baby legs and a sail

[urban flax]

JP exists because of paleonerds who thought dinosaurs would be cool as movie creatures instead of just funny big lizards

[lavish quail]

Jp is a creation from god

https://tenor.com/view/jurrasic-world-dinosaur-fallen-kingdom-defense-gif-12063729

Look at this holy creature

[urban flax]

It's funny because apparently creators knew their dilo was undersized and justified it by saying it was a juvie

[manic sun]

really? lol

[lavish quail]

A juvie that shoots acid and has a frail thingie?