general-feedback-discussion

[remote briar]

most definantly

also its using echo location to see inn the dark and home in on its target. not sufficating. lmao XD

[keen vapor]

@strange quiver tbh the mud everywhere was kinda OP and madr it allmost impossible to track a vounded prey

[sacred moat]

Exactly

All a teno would have to do was run in the giant bushes in on the river bank and wallow

Only suicidal Utahs would try to follow a teno in there

[quasi night]

i think the next dino they should come out with after pachy is allo so we can balance the carno

[urban flax]

Cerato*

[quasi night]

i like that idea also lol maybe both

arent ceras smaller then carno?

[urban flax]

Yes it's smaller, but beefier

[quasi night]

i mean they come out with cera and thats what everyones gonna play lol

[urban flax]

That would be worse with Allo, since it'd become the largest available land predator
Nothing in the current roster can compete with an allo, except maybe stego

[quasi night]

true

i mean i was a carno on qa and got killed by an adult carno lol

[paper oriole]

Mix packing will happen regardless. Having every herbi give nutrients will just make things too easy for carnis and theyll still mixpack in the end

[karmic plank]

Canni debuffs also still beat starving

[full juniper]

Deino?

[urban flax]

Since when is Deino a land predator ?

[honest sparrow]

I mean does deino go on land

[full juniper]

Have you..never played this game before?

[urban flax]

Balance problems aren't a gameplay direction choice

[sacred moat]

Let’s think about how viable is deino really is on land

The only thing a deino is catching on land and killing is a juvi stego

And even then, juvi stegos are SLIGHTLY slower than deinos on land

Being killed by a deino on land 9 times out of 10 is you’re fault

Deino In no shape or form is a land predator

[honest sparrow]

I mean it is a predator that can go on land

[ivory summit]

guys does the queue work?

[full juniper]

@pallid burrow I think it is happening!

[pallid burrow]

Oh very noice

[full juniper]

The concepts are in #phase-two-archive

[pallid burrow]

Ohhh I forgot about seeing that picture

The concept looks really good

[meager tiger]

Do you think one day they'll add prehistoric animals to the game not from the dinosaur era. Like I'm talking post dinosaur. Terror birds, mammoths, giant sloths, smilodon, cave bears...etc

[honest sparrow]

Other than titanboa and megalania, no

[meager tiger]

Kinda sucks but understanble

Maybe the Isle 2? Lol

Why are people against a full grown multi ton stego one shotting a carno even though stego had to compete with a much bigger threat, Allosaur during it's time. That's like saying trike shouldn't be able to badly hurt a Allosaur even though it had to fight T rexes which were wayyy stronger?

That's what these animals evolved to compete tooth and nail with. Something smaller or weaker should be a much easier kill/defense

[sacred moat]

It still baffles me

Like the thagomizer length on a stegos tail are nearly twice the width of a carno skull

The isle carno is slowly but surely turning into Disney dinosaurs carno

I feel like one of the devs saw this video about carno and took it a bit too literally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epSZEVDnBoc&ab_channel=Pesky

[full juniper]

I agree with chop, I wanna hear some terror inducing bellows

[civic anvil]

I know that everyone hates utha but I like it and Im missing more legs oriented attacks. Far as I read they should have powerful legs able to kick and rip with their 23-30cm sharp claws. I would love to see second special attack in form similar to pounce but just to slash and cut with its legs 😄 but i guess lot of people would hate it

[cyan flame]

@civic anvilIt's because utah is desgined as attrition large game hunter with bleed, not damage. So it doing the kind of attacks you describe wouldn't work with how it's balanced for now.

[feral solstice]

Realism doesn’t equal balance

[civic anvil]

I mean I understand that you need to sacrifice something for balance but for me it is like if you made stego to sway its tail only to one side.

[cyan flame]

Well, I mean... We have a stego that "jabs" instead of swings, so you're not entirely wrong :p And yeah, I get it, but it's how they designed things, just like how they designed carno with a charge, or deino to use it's lunge and thus having very "weak" biteforce.

[civic anvil]

I just read today lot of information about Utha from as much sources as i could find and even if there are differences in for example weight or if they lived in packs, or just occasionaly formed them, there was always one bottom line something like this "Utahraptor would have been an extraordinary killing machine. It is estimated that it reached 20 feet in length and weighed close to a ton. Two-inch serrated “steak knife” teeth in a skull a foot and a half long, blade-like claws up to 10 inches long on its hands combined with 15-inch killing sickle-claws on its feet, and a fast, highly agile body would make a Polar Bear or Siberian Tiger lucky to survive five seconds in the ring with this creature." And this just truly doesnt feel even close like this in game 😄 that is little bit sad because they are iconic for that. But...it is hard to judge how it will be when game is fully ready and fully finished

[cyan flame]

I don't think that's all that accurate. Utah did not weight that much IRL, nor was it very agile, it was a surprisingly slow and bulky animal. Think of a raptor trying to be a rex and you get the idea. The playable we have in game is nowhere near what an actual utahraptor would be, it only shares the name.

So in any case, comparing it to IRL utah just doesn't work. What we have in game is a JP raptor, and they don't function like actual utahraptors would by any means.

[celest basin]

@civic anvil pack hunting

[civic anvil]

pack hunting is fun but not always possible so depending only on that is not good gameplay 😄

[celest basin]

solo utahs are meant to go for smaller targets

One thing I want changed though, is less stamina drain during a pounce so that a pounce rewards you more than just draining your stam

Pounce does massive bleed though

[civic anvil]

yea ofcourse but if you as utha get in situation 1v1 even against tougher one or bigger one I think you still should be considered as treath but i rarely feel like that 😄 everyone attacking first because they can one hit so they trying and pushing...even pounce if you miss is penalted with animation 😄

[celest basin]

a 1v1 teno vs utah?

teno should have a clear advantage

[cyan flame]

Considering both carno and teno are balanced to counter utahs, I don't think a utah, or even two, would stand a good chance vs a single one of them.

[celest basin]

1v1 utah winning isn't balanced

[civic anvil]

i think it should but if utha managed to get on teno teno would be heavily if not mortaly wounded

[celest basin]

bleed

and a pounce is only successful if the teno doesn't buck

better to be patient and pick off smaller tenos in a group than go for a larger one

[hoary dawn]

canor populations will go down as more dinos are added

[barren zephyr]

@golden iron I totally agree. everything thats eating meat except ptera is iterally overpowered right now. Not only that as a juvi herbivore you stand no chance at all, also the fact that they grow 100 times faster than herbivores

[hoary dawn]

that's why herbivores tend to move in herds

[golden iron]

not to mention, they took like 90% of the plains foliage away so how are juvie stegos who are forced to live there supposed to survive? 99% of the times ive been killed during the test as stego, its a carno that sees me in the distance because theres literally no cover at all. Plus, ive yet to find a single mud pit so wallowing is near impossible now too.

[hoary dawn]

growing an apex isn't supposed to be a cakewalk my guy

[golden iron]

but it shouldnt be fucking impossible.

[hoary dawn]

i find it easier to go to more obscure parts of the map instead of sticking to the main central plains

[golden iron]

you do realize stegos are forced to the plains right

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, there’s almost no chance to grow anything at center anyways

[hoary dawn]

there isn't just 1 plains on the whole map

[barren zephyr]

^

[golden iron]

good luck getting there at all anyways, carnos are everywhere

[hoary dawn]

again, its not supposed to be easy

[golden iron]

carno is currently apex level pred with only a 2 hour grow time, now less

[cyan flame]

It'll probably be more balanced when not everyone is a carno too

[barren zephyr]

there shouldn’t even be this many carnos in the first place, it’s just due to the lack of interesting playables

[cyan flame]

But yes, it should be difficult to successfully grow a stego or any other apex level animal, simple as that. If you don't really want to be one, there are other alternatives to play

[golden iron]

being difficult and being impossible are two different things

[barren zephyr]

they see big scary theropod they click

[hoary dawn]

its not impossible

[golden iron]

ive yet to make it to 10% as a stego and ive gone through countless runs now since it was added

[cyan flame]

How many runs, if you know?

[sacred moat]

am I the only one that feels like teno should be able to fracture carnos skull or atleast give it a broken jaw if a teno is just slamming down on its head using its tail?

[hoary dawn]

you having issue with it doesn't make it impossible

[golden iron]

probably like 15 at this point, probably more i stopped counting

i never make it more than 10 minutes without being seen

even though im very careful

and once one carno sees, here come the rest so it doesnt matter if you kill one

[cyan flame]

I think it's excessively difficult right now cause everyone is a carno, when it's a bit more evened out, it shouldn't be quite as bad, so it's hard to say

But yeah, I can get the frustration after 15 deaths

[golden iron]

it wont be evened out, because everyone spam plays carno anyways

it will never stop until they add another dino that they can abuse and overpack

hopefully pachy will tame these stupid infestations

I remember the game as enjoyable, but once they added carno the whole atmosphere changed to just an annoying survival

[sacred moat]

i think carno is going to slap pachy ngl

[barren zephyr]

Wait you talking bout apex? Then lets mention deino which is apex but literally the easiest thing to grow in whole the isle

[sacred moat]

felipe said on his stream that pachy headbutt wont break a carnos leg

[barren zephyr]

WHAT

[golden iron]

it has to

[sacred moat]

and im assuming it'll only take 3-4 attacks to kill a pachy

[barren zephyr]

So pachy is useless too I see

[golden iron]

theres no other way to get awya other than break the legs an run

[sacred moat]

um hold on let me see if i can get the clip

[paper oriole]

I remember when some foolish people kept saying diets would fix the herbi population and carnos are still the easiest things to grow so far lmao

[golden iron]

everything is useless against carno

you cant chase after them cause the

they'll always be faster

[hoary dawn]

deino is a special case

[cyan flame]

Well, if things worked out better maybe it would have helped. I think most of us really believed this would work out well, but.. :p

[barren zephyr]

also I think herbivores should get more camouflage than carnis. like dude they look like foliage, while you still can cleary see a stego in the middle of a forest even tho its GREEN XDD

[paper oriole]

Im glad my expectations were already low

[cyan flame]

Also, if pachy can't break carnos legs, then what is it supposed to do? Wasn't the entire point to break carno leg, then run the hell away?

[barren zephyr]

deino is a bullshit case. its too easy

[paper oriole]

Now its just herbis have to search for food and carnis just have to wait for them to show up

Easy life for carnos

[golden iron]

literally. Its just uber eats now

[paper oriole]

They made carnis into pizza delivery simulator

[barren zephyr]

like ptera is okay. you can grow ptera any time you want. its easy. but at least it wont oneshot you by only looking at you

Why isn’t teno on carnos diet btw

[paper oriole]

Just wait and dont put any extra work in

[golden iron]

and good luck getting away once you're spotted. No foliage for babies, no logs to hide, nothing

[paper oriole]

I knew from the start diets would favour carnis

I am like a psychic or something

[golden iron]

I started playing BoB and ive really enjoyed being able to take cover from weather in trees and logs and under rocks, plus the natural disasters make it very fun and its the perfect way to keep people moving. I wish the isle would take the same course

[barren zephyr]

also not even a main problem that carnis literally buttride all herbivores no matter what. the real problem is that they keep overkilling. like youd have a lake with 2498529 bodies and theyd still would kill your baby dryo ass

[golden iron]

they're trying too hard to be a different game, despite their lore being the same as literally any dino movie/game. Dinos vs humans. The isle is just going to turn into jurrassic park

[paper oriole]

The new system has just taken herbis who were already vastly outnumbered and removed their ability to avoid predators reliably and instead deliver themselves to carnos who now dont even need to hunt

Encourages braindead carnis and discourages touching herbi

[barren zephyr]

Exacly

[paper oriole]

Exactly what i feared would happen

[golden iron]

I used up almost all spawn locations because of the amount of times my little stego couldnt run from the op carno

[barren zephyr]

they should make carnis grow slower and have a way harder diet so they dont kill everything they see

[paper oriole]

Diets wont stop kfs as is seen

Kfs shohldnt be stopped honestly but the mass killing is ridiculous

Because they have the time to do it and herbis dont have the time to do anything but look for food

Due to diets, carnis will probably have a lot easier time nesting as well

[golden iron]

definitely, it should be rewarding to get to adult as a carnivore, but anyone can do it now super super easy.

[barren zephyr]

like right now again carnos running INTO my spikes and I get killed and he gets NO damage

This is A shitty hitbox

[weak dune]

Considering 90% of diet punishment falls on herbs, yeah. Supposedly carni's "need" more leniency on diet debuffs but if the QA test is proving anything its the exact opposite. Diets should swing the game population largely in Herb favor so that you have only a handful of badass carni's and a wide range of Everything Else

As Carno is set up right now, its literally begging to be abused

Which means its begging to be the only thing played because no one wants to play just to be Bully Fodder

[paper oriole]

Definitely, honestly i dont get why they thought carnis would need leniency when herbis are forced to go to certain locations that makes them easy to find and you just have to literally camp and wait for them with 0 effort required

[grizzled vector]

Carno’s charge shouldn’t have fracture whos idea was that

[paper oriole]

Fracture makes sense for it but yeah its stupid because it encourages brawling

[golden iron]

i feel the only way to fix it is to have certain limits to how many players can be on the map as certain dinos. So if theres already 15 carnos, too bad play something else or wait until one dies.

[paper oriole]

Hard limits are pretty awful, it should just be harder to grow carni

[barren zephyr]

and again got pounced by utah for fun

[paper oriole]

Carnis should have to work way more than herbis to keep themselves healthy

[grizzled vector]

They said they didn’t want fracture to be a death sentence but if a carno hits a teno and fractures it there’s literally nothing that teno can do

[barren zephyr]

dude if id get a dollar for everytime someone kills me for no reason Id be a millionaire

This is ridicoulus

[paper oriole]

Carnis are incentivized to sport kill while herbis barely even have time to stop and enjoy the landscape

[barren zephyr]

AND EVEN as a fully grown stego you stand no chance against 2 carnos

cuz they gonna come and buttride you together since your own hitrange is smaller than hypsis spit range

[paper oriole]

Imagine how bad kentro will be now

[barren zephyr]

damn

[golden iron]

fracture for carno should absolutely be a death sentence. Do they think a pachy would be faster than a carno that they can run up and break their leg? No, the carno would be the one making the mistake of getting too close to a pachy. Same with utah being one shot by stego. The whole point of the game is if you make a mistake you die. Thats the survival aspect

[paper oriole]

Man j was looking forward to kent but apparently the devs want carnis to be immune to spikes

[sacred moat]

yeah he said that it will stun the carno (im assuming like tenos tail slam)

[barren zephyr]

they should balance out carnis and herbs before adding a shitload ton of new dinos

[sacred moat]

i found the clip

[barren zephyr]

YOU LOST YOUR CROWN DUDE

[golden iron]

yea but what then? can a pachy headbut it to death or will the carno get out of the stun and kill it

[barren zephyr]

Here: 👑

[golden iron]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-sweet-little-rascals-gif-9302708

[sacred moat]

im assuming multiple shots the leg would break it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3i7jZmKfU&t=2s&ab_channel=TheIsleNewsUpdates

12:25 second mark

"should stagger the carno, nothing else"

[golden iron]

If a stego can one shot a utah for being stupid, a pachy can break a carnos leg for being stupid. Its their mistake, and they need to be punished for it.

[paper oriole]

They really want carno to meet 0 resistance huh

[golden iron]

If pachy cant break carno leg then carno will remain the apex predator

[barren zephyr]

Guys

Imagine stego being able to kill utah

[golden iron]

very easily actually, utah players are not intelligent

[sacred moat]

i miss the legacy carno tbh, it was a danger to small dinos, but ervima carno is just a smaller version of the disney dinosaur Carno

[paper oriole]

Who's the carno enthusiast in the dev team who got to run amok on the new update

[sacred moat]

legacy carno was actually balanced

woah, legacy?? balanced???

[weak dune]

Evrima Carno is basically the new Legacy Rex, especially since it can do fracture/bone break now lmao

[paper oriole]

Legacy carno had an awful bite hitbox but it was better than the ezgrow rex we currently have

[weak dune]

Except if Rex was faster and had a buttload of stam

[cyan flame]

It was supposed to be, break carno leg, run away. Stick around and fight, and you still die to the carno. I think that sounds reasonable enough personally.

[sacred moat]

fix the hit box, and it was a decent carno

[paper oriole]

Like you could have your face right on something and it wouldnt land in legacy

[golden iron]

I think carno should get a stam increase, but should be slower than utah. Carno does not need stam, speed, damage and health. Thats pure OP and leaves the utah unviable

[sacred moat]

now we literally have a cheetah allo

[grizzled vector]

Utah is unviable because pounce sucks

[paper oriole]

Carno's whole shtick was speed, making it slower than utah would just make it discount cerato. He should stay fast but he shouldnt excel in other fronts

[grizzled vector]

And has sucked since day 1

[sacred moat]

exactly

[golden iron]

especially now, that they added inertia, you can barely out turn them anymore

then get rid of carno and add cerato. Would make the game much more enjoyable

Carno currently owns the whole game.

[grizzled vector]

I always questioned why carno was the Dino they decided on

[sacred moat]

i would rather 10 ceras vs 10 carnos tbh

[paper oriole]

Right now carno not only has speed, but power and even agility on his side due to inertia screwing over smaller dinos

[golden iron]

because they're stupid and dont ask what the community wants, its like a restaurant where you're not allowed to order and they give you whatever they feel like that day

[paper oriole]

He should have power and agility sacrificed for speed, rely on landing a charge and if he fucks up hes out of stam and has to recover

[sacred moat]

atleast with cera, you should be able to out run them, and make it harder for them to maintain food in giant packs

[barren zephyr]

are you kidding? You can pounce at any growth stage which is op

[sacred moat]

wha-

how is that op

[golden iron]

once pounce does more bleed itll be good

[lyric spoke]

Remove utah from the game if u want it to be this unplayable

[cyan flame]

Utah pounce as a mechanic has always been fine. The damage/bleed has varied from stupidly OP to more or less reasonable. I'm not sure utah current bleed is bad, though it could be an issue for smaller raptors perhaps.

Granted, there's been all sorts of issues with the pounce, but as a concept and mechanic it's worked, more or less at least.

[sacred moat]

im not sure how adult utahs bleed is now, no one makes it to adult

[weak dune]

I mean it is their game, so they can add what they want. The problem is the balance so heavily favors Carno that it might as well be singing Everything You Can Do I Can Do Better as it merrily charges across the fields KOSing everything in sight including a psuedo-apex that weighs 3-4x more than it and has giant Fuck Off tail spikes that could turn it into a kebab

[golden iron]

the game needs to go back to, make a mistake and you're over. Its too forgiving combat wise and heavily favors in carno

[cyan flame]

Because for some reason someone didn't think about how to make diets :p

I'm pretty sure all utahs need is to be able to eat carnos as well as the boars, and they'll do a whole lot better

[sacred moat]

if you want me to be honest, utah and carno should switch diets.

[cyan flame]

Carno = eat utah, teno, boars, dryo. Utah = eat carno, teno, stego, boars (or rabbits or whatever else we got)

[sacred moat]

juvi carno has a faaaaar better chance at taking down a juvi teno

[grizzled vector]

Utah needs another kill condition. You can literally only pounce thing in open fields because the smallest obstacle means your death but the second your target finds a rock or something to back itself up against your hunts over and you just wait for carnos to find you and wipe your pack

[sacred moat]

yeah pounce is kinda fodder if you can find a good rock or tree to hug

[grizzled vector]

Or just stand in ankle deep water

[weak dune]

Honestly Utah shouldn't be dismounted in water unless its literally submerged imo

[cyan flame]

The water thing is a bug

It'll be fixed no doubt

And I think the interactions with trees/rocks might change, besides, they removed those damn fern clusters at least :p

[golden iron]

honestly until this game is fixed i might just stick to BoB, which feels weird saying considering a few months ago I would shun myself for not being loyal to evrima

[grizzled vector]

I mean an 8 ton stego can throw itself on its back legs to buck a Utah off and it uses NO stamina doing it like cmon

[golden iron]

the game relys on floods, fires, tornados and such to keep people on their toes and moving and its so much more effective than the isles diets will ever be.

[sacred moat]

i mean.....you can always play both

[golden iron]

evrima just makes me frustrated and depressed now, so ill pass

[sacred moat]

fair

[golden iron]

its a play dough recreation of a game disguised by good graphics

[hoary dawn]

[barren zephyr]

Anyone down for playin stego with me?

Im right now so tired of these fkin utahs

[golden iron]

you playing on the test?

[barren zephyr]

ye

[hoary dawn]

this is general feedback discussion

[golden iron]

ha gl

[barren zephyr]

yes I know

[golden iron]

what you gonna snitch

[barren zephyr]

we were discussing bout stego and stugg

Like dude Im on my 6th death rn

[golden iron]

some grass is just barely tall enough to hide as baby steg, gl have fun let us know if you survive

[hoary dawn]

im gonna be confused as to why ask this sort of thing in a completely unrelated channel

[barren zephyr]

because they camp at the spawns

[spare sable]

Any one here made it to full adult Utah ?

[honest ferry]

Is teno a little op?

I was a young carno and got decked by a teno smaller then me

Bothe babes. I will say I’ve not played carno before but still even with that

[sacred moat]

teno rn is the most balanced its ever been

[honest ferry]

Oh ok I’ll just work on my gameplay then

[still lily]

How come everytime I try to launch the QA branch I INSTANTLY get a fatal error crash

[weak dune]

If anything is broken, its carno. Teno has the best balance of any dino in the game imo

[paper oriole]

QA srvers are 80% carnos steamrolling everything with practically nonexistent resistance and one of the carno players asks of teno is op

Comedy

[weak dune]

Lol

[honest ferry]

I was a baby and new. Don’t have to be ike that. Respect others.

[sacred moat]

This does make me question

If carno is this strong

My god what is alberto going to be like

Alberto was a better version of sub Rex in legacy

It was decently fast for a Dino it’s size and was a terror to anything that was its size or smaller

I don’t really see it being too much of a problem like carno since it’s stupid ambush won’t be a thing

I hope they give it some sort of attack that grabs smaller prey and shakes it to death

[paper oriole]

Acro regularly hunting tenonto in-game

[hoary dawn]

what is "necro post"

[paper oriole]

In threads its like bumping a really old dead thread but idk what hes talkin about lol

[sacred moat]

you just reminded me of that one acro documentary where it hunted the tenonto

[real quail]

how do you make groups

[hoary dawn]

Hold down 2 call at the person you want to group with

[sacred moat]

hold down 2 but in the current QA branch, i believe it can glitch and not work

[urban flax]

I was worried "too many necro posts" was personal hate against me ^^'

[sacred moat]

it would be funny if the devs add some sort of pepper spray to use at hatchling carnivores when mercs come out

[paper oriole]

Aw hell naw, a small map would just be the final nail in the coffin for herbi players since diets already make it super easy for predators to find them

Carnis dont even have to hunt now, carnos especially

Its a waiting and lynch mobbing simulator for them like thugs stalking some alley outside a market

[lapis tree]

There’s no way in hell the map is gonna get smaller. I think some people would want the map to expand if anything

[paper oriole]

I want a bigger map where i wont get fucking dogpiled by the carnis that got pandered to in this update every single time i try to find my diet plants

We only have a part of the map unlocked so far, cant wait for it to expand

So sick of the ez grow carni megapacks, the only new thing in this patch is herbis getting screwed over no surprise at all

Hope they make diets harder for carnis too like pretty much nothing changed for them

[cyan flame]

@barren zephyr Wouldnt that.. take away from the point of hiding in foliage?

[barren zephyr]

not really, it's just close range body odor mechanic

I also think the range would depend of how big the animal his, for exemple a juvie would almost not be affected, only 1/2 meter or even nothing.

[paper oriole]

This just helps shitty hunters find people easier, it's hand holding

I can see it being a punishment for people who have been sitting stationary for an extensive period of time, but just being able to walk around sniffing and have the game point you to dinos you cant see on your own is bullshit

If you cant see a fat ass trike or spino or something in the woods its your own problem and you dont need hand holding

[lapis tree]

Agreed

[mystic cedar]

what going on whith mechanic test serv EU and NA ?

[barren zephyr]

idk, it's not even apearing in my favorite steam list

like it disepeared

[devout ibex]

seems like only 1 server is up

also does the queue system work ?

[paper oriole]

People really still using phase 2 requests as a general feedback channel huh

Also yikes a weather that exclusively benefits carnis and punishes herbis for being in the biome the game forces them in to

[bleak rivet]

Does the Queue system currently work?

[manic sun]

@odd token I think they lowered the stun duration for the pounce with this patch but it still is a little bit too long.

[odd token]

feels like they've increased it with how slow its getting up

[manic sun]

do you mean the duration from missing a pounce or like hitting a tree or falling off your victim?

[odd token]

missing a pounce

whiff a pounce near a carno and he can get an absurd amount of bites on you

[pale bloom]

Idk why people keep asking for Utah buffs its obvious that devs listened that part of the community that had been throwing shit to the playable , mostly crybabies

So dont expect any buffs , they hate Utah, at this point it should be replaced by something else

[mystic falcon]

lol good god, people whining about utah CONSTANTLY. I would rather see people whine about desync and fps drops, not the dino they 'main.' This game has far worse issues than utah being a wet floppy noodle

[hoary dawn]

remove utah, problem solved

[dense meteor]

remove dinos problem solved we play as plants now

[hoary dawn]

tree simulator 2022

[dense meteor]

no dinos no problem

[honest sparrow]

Hop on

[zealous violet]

Perfection

[gray frost]

Is the NA QA server down?

[barren zephyr]

Will there ever be a sandbox mode in evrima?

[hoary dawn]

eventually

[barren zephyr]

Yay 😁

Ty for response

[bleak rivet]

So why can I not invite people to groups as Hypsi, neither can my buddy I am playing wiht but we had another Hypsi invite us yet we could not join??

[hoary dawn]

you cant join a group if you are already in one, you can leave your current group from the character menu, if that doesn't work it might be a bug

[bleak rivet]

Yea it is really bugged, it keep auto putting us back in solo groups

[paper oriole]

Why should utah specifically get a hearing buff when sniffing thats so random

[cyan flame]

@barren zephyr Interesting idea. My one quibble would be that there are situations where you do want to retreat, let's say you get pounced by one utah as carno, you see the rest and go "yep, time to bail", would you be able to do so without then killing yourself, directly or indirectly?

[sleek wraith]

yes I don't know what was in my head at that moment. it is actually nonsense

[paper oriole]

Small fragile and flight animals in general could benefit from a hearing boost ability honestly if it got added

Seems random for utah in specific

[barren zephyr]

Say the Utah ambushes you, but you have a decent reaction time and buck it off
You could just ignore the effect in trade for a portion of your HP for how long it Pounced you, so if it pounced you for only a short time, you'd lose maybe 8-20% of HP to escape effectively and high tail out of there.

[cyan flame]

Noted, then it should be fine. Sacrificing a bit of health to get out alive is reasonable after all. Just wanted to make sure the damage wouldn't be too harsh, but that sounds okay.

[barren zephyr]

It would vary on species to species

[cyan flame]

This is mostly for those that would rather try and run, than fight. But I can see an issue with para and others later on.

[barren zephyr]

But for defensive playables like a Stego, this added change would do little to nothing
So the Pounce would retain it's attrition functionality

[cyan flame]

Since I imagine their method is to just tank the pounces sort of and just run the hell away.

Yeah, it depends a bit on how a critter is supposed to survive, by fighting or by escaping.

No amount of utahs is going to make a stego or trike or rex run away since they can't in the first place. But a para or maia or allo could, depending on if the pack is large enough to be sufficiently scary.

[barren zephyr]

I cooked this idea in the oven for awhile
But this would help alleviate a lot of the Kos'ing, since it could also be a feature malleable to be added for other playbles, Like a Giga for example

Say for example, A few Carno wanted to steal a kill from a pack of Utahs

[cyan flame]

I'm not saying the idea is terrible, mind you. Just pointing out what could be potential issues :p

[barren zephyr]

If the Carnos ran straight in rushing everything, getting pounced, sprinting and trying to kill the entire pack. It might find itself wounded and maybe even in a critical state very quickly.

While if the Carno played it more stationery, stood their ground on the kill. Relying on Alt biting, not rushing at every Utah, being patient to counter. They'd have much greater chances at success and effectively thwart the pack's numbers or resolve. While all in a defensive manner for resources

Since the "Pounce burn" would reward defensive play against Utahs

[cyan flame]

Yeah, I get the idea. Like I said, it's more so for those that want to escape an attack and do so by relying on running the hell away/"tanking" a pounce or two while doing so possibly

[barren zephyr]

A Carno/Teno would tank a Pounce or two in the event it only wants to escape. Given they don't let the Utah pounce on it too long.

[cyan flame]

It's an interesting idea at the least, not 100% convinced but you seem to have thought it through so I'll consider it!

[barren zephyr]

What ideas would you tweak for you to be 100% convinced?

[cyan flame]

No idea right now honestly. I'd have to think about it for a bit as well, how I imagine different interactions will go, not just with current roster but the rest of the playables, and so on.

[barren zephyr]

We could speculate, using Carno as a base

For situations where a creature is "caught" or another comes in trying to steal a kill

The best play would to simply stand your ground

Now, the pounce could be used to eventually wear down targets if none of the Utahs go down quick enough

But what playables could simply do, is wait out the temporary "Pounce burn" briefly then feel free to catch a Utah or two, when the target is pounced again, it could revert to defensive play once more until the timer is gone again.

[cyan flame]

I don't think if there's a pack, they'd let you "wait it out" at all

And the point was that you can't stay around, because said pack is enough to kill you if you do

[barren zephyr]

Do note, that if the timer for the burn is too excessive, it could be shortened. Allowing more of a heightened variable

[cyan flame]

The defensive parts I'm more fine with, that should work out, and if you try and bully too many utahs, well then that's on you

Its just the escape parts that has me slightly concerned, but yes, you could always modify the timer or damage to make it less harsh but still noticable if you insist on just charging at everything around you

[barren zephyr]

Say for example you'd be pounced and it initiates a burn. While waiting for the short burn to wear off, another Utah pounces you. This wouldn't ramp any dramatic damage as long as you're not sprinting and still playing defensively. This also means another member is now draining stamina it needs to regen. As before, for creatures like Stego(or playing like Stego) it would be hardly of a detriment

So trotting, turning and attacking, alt attacking= Not a concern when a Pounce burns

You could simply continuously trot out of an area, when you're neck deep in Utah, countering them, killing when they miss their pounces. Until enough distance is made then being able to escape a confrontation

[cyan flame]

Yeah, I'm not worried so much for the defensive fighters. Again, it's only the ones that would try to run that concerns me. But would a second pounce restart the countdown, stack it, or just not count?

[barren zephyr]

Before I answer, what would you feel be the best option out of the mentioned alternatives to a muti pounce?

[cyan flame]

Hm.. logic would say it should restart it, but I'm not sure that'd be good. Stacking seems even worse, but it not counting is no better. So I guess restarting it would be my choice of those three.

[barren zephyr]

You also need to take into account that missing a pounce puts Utah in a "death" situation
Terrain, water, trees, (basically counters) and it would work as a pseudo Carno charge for "catching" prey. Given the amount of variables and wide margin of error for simply using it

Trotting mid tiers are gonna extend the margin of error more, so it's not like it's gonna be a barrage of Pounces in the majority of scenarios

Restarting it would be the fair alternative

Sprinting mid tiers are gonna be very difficult to land such pounces

Even if one would land, like we said. Nearly all of them are gonna be capable of shrugging off a Pounce or two if they really don't want to engage

[cyan flame]

Well, water is unlikely to be a counter. The trees might get reworked, and the runners I'm thinking of wouldn't really be in the forest in the first place. Think maia and similar, those are the ones I'm concerned with.

Things that aren't going to, most likely, fight a utah pack, as much as attempt to run them over and get out of there more often than not.

But yeah, a maia should be tanky enough to take a few pounces and "run it off" as it were

So maybe I'm worried for nothing

[barren zephyr]

If a Utah does manage to land a pounce on a larger, yet nimble target. It should act as a bonus to reward ambushing for the Utah landing the tricky pounce. Maia will still be in the size range to handle a two or few Utahs in combat, and the size/speed is still gonna allow it to shrug off those burns to escape if it doesn't want to engage.

[cyan flame]

Yeah, you're most likely right. And yes, ambushes should be rewarded, so that's all good. More utahs need to properly ambush and not just run up and then start to attack :p

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, that's why missing the pounce is basically a death sentence

Players that miss are slaughtered, given the Hp values of Utahs

[cyan flame]

It's not as bad anymore I don't think, they sped up the recovery time

So unless you miss right next to the targets attack area, you should be okay, more or less

[barren zephyr]

Still, to land a pounce puts you in close proximity of the target, so you're most likely missing right next to your target

I'm curious to see how this concept would play out, the real kinks would appear in the testing phases
But honestly I feel it's solid enough for it deserve a shot in testing

[cyan flame]

Yeah, testing it should be fine. But I'm inclined to say they need to make the pounce work properly before we add to it, it's most likely not a needed mechanic right now anyway.

[barren zephyr]

The issues with pounce, yeah
They need to iron out it's use to actually work as a proper attrition tool before they add side uses for it

But I'm all for multi functional abilities to start making a debut

Say the Pachy Headbutt for example

[cyan flame]

I think it does work decent as an attrition tool, if it worked performance wise :p

But that's the thing right, it's 90% (at least) performance issues with the pounce, and not stats or the mechanic itself

Just so many things that seem to be able to bug and not work

Oh, what would you do with the headbutt?

[barren zephyr]

I agree

Nothing, the Pachy Headbutt already is multi functional

Given that it could fracture, parry, and rock down trees for food

That's what I wanna see more of ideally for most playables

These features create depth

[cyan flame]

Yeah, that would be interesting and fun

You could give pounce that "climb" part, if utah do end up getting that

[barren zephyr]

Like MHW?

[cyan flame]

Instead of being knocked down/stunned, you can use it as a start to get up higher, or something possibly

Assuming you pounce the right trees and not ones that can't support you (in which case you should just fail like you do currently)

[cyan flame]

No idea what you're referring to. But if utahs do get some way to climb or at least scurry a bit up a tree, they could use the pounce for a better "start". Just an idea since you wanted to see more features for a mechanic.

[barren zephyr]

Monster Hunter World

[cyan flame]

Yes I know what game you meant, but I've never played or watched it :p

So no idea what in the game you are thinking of

[barren zephyr]

Basically you can rodeo monsters, use a grappling hook and hop to change positions

The same could be done to traverse up grass vines or areas

[cyan flame]

Ah, okay. You know, that could be a thing for larger prey, like a shant.

You have to pounce and then move up, to give space for more utahs to pounce, or something. Most likely something you'd do as a "finisher" when it's weakened and can't buck you all off as easily anymore or some such

[barren zephyr]

I had another idea to add, around the bleed icon. When a "Pounce burn" initiates, there's a circular timer around it
That tells you the exact info for how long the window lasts. so you could better distinguish your actions

[cyan flame]

That would be useful, but probably not something we'd get. Maybe just change the color of the icon to a more orange one, and then if you open character and hover you get the timer.

[barren zephyr]

Or have a water drain effect in the background of the blood drop icon

It would drain until the effect is over

[fickle oar]

Anyone else unable to join NA 1? Won't let me join even though it shows 97/100

[hoary dawn]

X

3 more mechanics

then playables

[errant tartan]

No you can’t finish diets without having a larger player roster

It’s kinda stupid balancing an ecosystem off of 6 dinosaurs

[hoary dawn]

diets will continue to be updated as new playables come in

what the game needs is night vision and nesting

[errant tartan]

But I feel like diets should mainly be playables n not AIs

That’s always been the isles stick

Player vs player

[hoary dawn]

it doesn't need skins and venom as much

[errant tartan]

I just feel like diets have been added too soon

A fresh Utah should be a scavenger

Based purely on the mercy of what caracasses it can find

And thus is why we need a larger roster with more independent dinosaurs

As when you have a dinosaur that is solitary in nature, they won’t carcass camp as they might have a larger thing roll up on it

Nah yea I agree to an extent that ai is good for juvies, however basing adult diets off of ai I think is the wrong route

Idk tbh I can’t say too much as I haven’t had a chance to play the mechanic test but from all the feedback I have seen it sounds like it’s carno groups slapping the shit out of Utah’s. That might change in updates

But I think the game would just feel more alive if we had a larger ecosystem

But yes ai is a good add, but needs to be monitored

Yeah I agree

I have seen a lot of feedback saying that the carno charge is pretty powerful

Yeah I agree with this

Easier to hit than the Utah pounce however

True but even 5 more dinosaurs at this point would really freshen up the gameplay

[hoary dawn]

once all the mechanics are in its gonna be a lot easier to add more dinosaurs

[errant tartan]

Yea I agree nesting and gore are really important, also I think that elders is important too. But once dinosaur per update feels a bit lack lustre

[hoary dawn]

everyone wants more dinos, but best thing for the game is to get the core mechanics in first

[errant tartan]

Yea true true

Let’s hope so, I’m just worried that they will try to push out mercs or cannibals before the roster becomes diverse. Like I swear I saw something saying they wanted to push mercs out by the end of the year ? Idk I might be wrong on that tho.

[hoary dawn]

the funny

[sacred moat]

Why do we need more playables

[errant tartan]

Yea I think the human structures is sick, and it would awesome to explore them or even use them as nesting landmarks in the future.

This

[sacred moat]

I thought the devs made it very clear as to why we don’t need more atm

Literally go play legacy then

[paper oriole]

so there arent 50 carnos steamrolling a whole server
instead, there will be several packs of privileged carnis steamrolling a whole server

[sacred moat]

Adding more playables isn’t going to fix that issue

[paper oriole]

yeah i know therell still be people steamrolling the whole server but at least i wont be spawn killed by the same carno pack each time that count for something right lol

[errant tartan]

So you’re happy to play these 6 dinosaurs for the next year ?

[paper oriole]

mechanics are more important though elsewise we get playabled fucked over when they are released

[sacred moat]

Then you’ll just get spawn killed by some other abusive pack Dino then

[paper oriole]

i know thats what i just said

[sacred moat]

We need balance, not more shit to add in to the pile

[paper oriole]

we need playables to be harder to pick not have one or two elevated so high above the others like carno is rn

[sacred moat]

I’d rather play these 6 then add incomplete dinos that have 0 uniqueness to them

[paper oriole]

i dont want them throwing trash unfinished dinos out in to the game like they did with hypsi and dryo

and they become fodder or are busted

[sacred moat]

Stop

[errant tartan]

Oh yeah then the next dinosaur that’s added completely fucks up the balance of the game, the mechanics that these dinosaurs are equipped can wreck balance so easily

[paper oriole]

only thing making hypsis viable is that they have no growth time

[hoary dawn]

hypsi has no niche, it just exists

[paper oriole]

hypsi was lazy and rushed

[errant tartan]

Add them all then balance them accordingly it’s easy

[paper oriole]

not even remotely worth it lmao
hypsi is fodder

[sacred moat]

What are you talking about

[errant tartan]

Talking more sense than u

[paper oriole]

as a dinosaur that is too slow to escape from predators once found unless the predators are idiots and who has an ability that doesnt work as it should

[sacred moat]

Ah yes let me add in a shit more dinos vs proper balancing the current ones right now then slowly adding more in more and balancing them accordingly

[paper oriole]

want them to throw in a bunch of dinos with no mechanics that will be wiped on by carnos so barely anybody plays them? or so busted that its the only thing you see or hear?

[sacred moat]

Mega brain strategy

[paper oriole]

id be salty as fuck if they added one of my fav upcoming dinos as incomplete trash like they did to hypsi

idiot carnos, low brain function play is encouraged in the current build for carnos

[sacred moat]

Like people with this “more dinosaurs will fix our current problems rn” mentality are

[paper oriole]

two i could understand but if there were 5 they must have all been having an epilepsy attack and couldnt function their mouse and keyboard

[errant tartan]

do you not understand that the game is going to have to be balanced every single time a new playable is added

[sacred moat]

Yes, that’s the point???????

[paper oriole]

good luck with a utah pack then who can jump wherever you can and ae also good in the woods

more dinos with no mechanics are just boring

[sacred moat]

You’d rather them shit pile in a bunch of dinos vs them adding one or two dinos and balancing them in properly

Like huh????

[paper oriole]

and dinos with incomplete or rushed mechanics end up like hypsi whose spit is only useable for trolling

[sacred moat]

More dinos make ervima go brrrr, wdym?

[paper oriole]

you can escape idiots or people who arent interested in continuing the track and chase

[paper oriole]

i agree, they should add rex in update 5

[sacred moat]

Why stop there? Spino and hypo giga in the next QA branch patch

[paper oriole]

carni diets are so lenient that the lack of food or nutrients given means nothing, people kill to kill and hypsi is unfinished fodder

that would be stupid, they should add hyper colossus with 2 hour grow time too how could you forget that

add the matriarchs too, i dont care if they dont have the models or are even confirmed ye tjust add store assets

[sacred moat]

Who needs proper ecosystem balancing when we can just have legacy 2.0 balancing

[karmic plank]

Utah had it yesterday

[paper oriole]

add boars and crabs to the playable roster we need more playables right now

[karmic plank]

Fat pigeons

[sacred moat]

Omg! That’ll surely kill the carno overpopulation

[karmic plank]

Spanish carno influenza. If the pack is too big random ones just die

Bonus: the dead bodies are diseased and give mad carno disease if one eats it

[paper oriole]

to fix the megapack mass killing we should add a remorse debuff to the carnos so that when they kill more than 5 dinos they get a depression debuff and their carno develops a drinking addiction

[karmic plank]

[sacred moat]

Acid rain?

Why didn’t the devs think of that sooner

[karmic plank]

And if you pack with a depressed carno you get stress

[sacred moat]

Oh no, not the BOB stress system

[karmic plank]

Mental health is no joking matter

[paper oriole]

a stress system? that's genius. if you are in a full group and anyone in that group tries to invite a new member, a current group member will die at random in order to fit a new one

if two groups get near eachother half of them will die so there is no overpacking

[karmic plank]

Look I've never worked on any sort of balanced PvP survival game but after 5 minutes thought I know better than anyone else, and everyone else is clearly stupid

[barren zephyr]

yo

looks like fun here

[sacred moat]

Add more dinos

[weak dune]

I know you're probably joking but with a little polish, that'd actually be kinda genius

[sacred moat]

We can have the dinos wear mask and everything

Perfect

[karmic plank]

Just imagine running around in a pack and one sneezea

[weak dune]

lol

[karmic plank]

Suddenly everyone scatters

[sacred moat]

Wait!

[weak dune]

Not necessarily a "any random dino just drops" without warning but like. Someone random gets "sick" basically and you have time to split off from the group, or the group can ditch you, to make packs that are too big disperse

[sacred moat]

That would actually promote social distancing!

[karmic plank]

Eyyy

[sacred moat]

No more mega packs

[karmic plank]

Covidino

[sacred moat]

STOP LMAO

We’re all going to get warnings

[karmic plank]

OK on a more serious note, there's suggestion after suggestion asking for things that are already in the game, some of us stat nerds need to sit down and update one of the wikis

Or better yet get a proper official one

Or add more information in game somehow

[native island]

hackers on NA1 stego players able to see crocs underwater, at soiuth pond

[paper oriole]

Ok lol

[paper oriole]

Wait is that suggestion saying that tenonto should have a harder time getting mountain ash just because something carnis are doing lmao

Hell naw

[lavish quail]

nah im suggesting that not everyone should be at south east swamp

[paper oriole]

If mountain ash is less accessible how will that not negatively impact tenonto

Mountain ash isnt a plant that exclusively grows in wetlands, if they increased its range then tenontos could get it from multiple biomes and swamp wouldnt be as much of a hotspot

The solution isnt to make life harder for tenonto

[lavish quail]

i mean move one of their plants

i can fill a teno diet in 5 minutes tops

Plus whats hard about teno life anyway

other than toxic players its pretty easy to sit in a bush with maxed diet

[paper oriole]

The 600 carnos with super lenient diets in any area herbis go for food

[lavish quail]

carnos are only a problem if you let them be tbh

[paper oriole]

Carnos basically dont even need to know their diet

[lavish quail]

its either fight or flight and in most cases you just mix em

[barren zephyr]

-_-

This ought to be good

[lavish quail]

i mean complain about that in feedback then

cause it is a problem

[lavish quail]

welcome to de show

[paper oriole]

I made feedback on diets before it just gets buried honestly

Dont think 80% of feedback is seen

[lavish quail]

95%

[paper oriole]

Yeah probably

I know one of the devs was looking at it a day or two ago but like theres so much

[lavish quail]

its not like they need to see it most of its the same

[barren zephyr]

You know your suggestion actually moves the congregation to a different area right?

The Tenos will simply go to the less accessible area if that's where the mountain ash is

[paper oriole]

Many of the herbi diet plants have a lot more range than is represented in game, meaning herbis and therefor carnis can be more spread out and have fewer hotspots if that was reflected ingame

[lavish quail]

"CaRNo Is TOo POWeRfUl" is my favourite quote

[barren zephyr]

Then the Utah's and Carnos will follow again

Same story,

[lavish quail]

i mean at least move one of their plants

like add agave back and its smooth sailing

[paper oriole]

Yeah the carnis win in the end wither day because all they have to do is sit and wait while the herbis do all the traveling

[lavish quail]

cause tenos gotta leave

[lavish quail]

not like anyones playing dryo anyway

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, they might want to fill up all their nutrients
Then Utahs and Carnos will find out those spots and just chill there for Tenos to be there to hotspot

[paper oriole]

Carnis have changed in to bush sitting simulator due to herbis being made to travel to specific spots that become hotspots

[lavish quail]

There isnt really a great way to stop hotspots

but i mean you could atleast add more than one swamp thats viable

[paper oriole]

Making less diet plants exclusive to one biome would be a start

More spread

Mountain ash is just one example

It can be in wetlands sure, but it can also be in any place with moist soil, is is a flexible moderate-moisture plant

Why put it in one biome and make that biome twins lake 2.0

[lavish quail]

Fix mudpools lol

they actually make utah hunts ez

[barren zephyr]

I think diet plants should be everywhere, just on less occasions
Typically you'd find this certain plant in this biome, but it could be found elsewhere for the sake of making foraging less painful

[paper oriole]

I hope they add dust bathing for feathered dinos when more come in too, wallowing looks stupid on dinos with so many ornamental feathers like hypsi and ovi and theri

[barren zephyr]

And certain plants should honestly give dual nutrients, specifically the rarer ones

[paper oriole]

Uncommon globally beneficial booster plants that are spread would be nice too definitely

Almost any diet plant can logically be in more than one biome though, i hope they spread them more

Make shit a bit less predictable and repetitive

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, it's hella anchored rn

[paper oriole]

Herbi life is basically no more interesting, all that was accomplished is making it easy for carnis to find players to hunt with minimal effort

Changed from eat this bush to move back and forth to eat reskin bush

[barren zephyr]

Devs really fumbled the diet systems for Herbi's

Overhyped, and lackluster execution

[paper oriole]

I had very low hopes to begin with lol

[barren zephyr]

I'm not surprised either

[paper oriole]

Called this shit a month ago lol

[barren zephyr]

Considering how cool of a concept it was, and it was something that supposedly encouraged foraging, and micro managing for stat boosts. The concept itself brought a bit of hope

[paper oriole]

It coulda been cool but its just a boring chore the way it was executed

[barren zephyr]

But yeah, how the fuck could anyone who knows how this game works not be able to tell this would happen. It's like a lot of the experience built up was thrown out the window

[paper oriole]

And also removed players' ability to hide from predators faster than them

[paper oriole]

Idk it always shocked me how hopeful and optimistic people were for diets

Especially for herbis

[barren zephyr]

Do they need to hire a Herbi consultant now? lol

[paper oriole]

The opressed herbis minority needs representation lmao

[barren zephyr]

It's pretty clear, and I sort of guessed from the whole biome thing too. That players could eventually predict and then wait out areas with abundant food to prey on juvies

Unless they'd want to grow for 6 hours for a Dryo, they'd pretty much have to go to these biomes

Making Afk growing, the more optimal strategy for survival

[paper oriole]

Its basically a ball and chain mechanic that does nothing but lower your chances of survival, the cons outweigh the pros for herbis due to predator packs knowing where they will go and being able to prepare ambushes

[barren zephyr]

Happened to me 3 times as Teno, it's hell to grow one

[paper oriole]

You are now punished for following your diet due to how predictable it is, while also being punished for avoiding the hot spots

[barren zephyr]

Even if I did, a Carno could just charge and fracture me
Leaving me at it's mercy after growing it

Even with a perfect diet stat boost

[paper oriole]

lol carnos will charge everything in sight while there are 10 dead tenos and 20 dead dryos laying right there from their previous shenanigans

It heavily encourages kfs for carnis because their diets are effortless

[barren zephyr]

I wanna know who the fuck is balance testing and the QA members giving the greenlight

[paper oriole]

The carno mains making up half+ of the server pop probably

[barren zephyr]

"It's a pack hunter now" will forever be a meme to me for the raptor changes

[paper oriole]

Did they ever even fix utah inertia

[barren zephyr]

I don't think so

[paper oriole]

F

[barren zephyr]

Utahs are pretty much farm animals to Carnos

[paper oriole]

Everybody is a farm animal to carnos now

[barren zephyr]

Sheep being led to the slaughter house

[paper oriole]

They took the effort to add fracture to carno charge but not fix inertia lmao the devs love carno

[barren zephyr]

It's crazy, pounce I don't think is hardly fixed

[paper oriole]

And i do too but the game is makin me spiteful to it

[barren zephyr]

It's still negligible in combat

[paper oriole]

The game makin me hate a cool animal

Pounce has been so wack from the start how have they not figured it out yet

It was op at one point, then useless, then fine but there were tons of bugs that they didnt fix, instead they redid it again

[barren zephyr]

Look, hating on Utah is fair, I get it
But nerfing and neatly removing a challenger has consequences to an ecosystem
It's one of the many causes to the current Carno infestation

[paper oriole]

I hate utah with a passion but i want it to be balanced at least

Not busted, not fodder, but it seems that almost every isle dino falls in to one of those categories

[barren zephyr]

I swear, many of these Utahs could be repelling and even quelling many of these Carnos squads right now
And as a Teno player, I'd rather be dealing with Utahs, then Charging Carnos

But alas, everything must be God tier or Troodon fodder stats

[paper oriole]

We need tougher herbivores and more competitive carnivores

Not some god tier hell spawn superpredator that is leagues above everything else in quality

[barren zephyr]

Ironically I predicted this would happen in 3.75 once the Utah and Teno nerfs came in

[paper oriole]

Yeah it was pretty forseeable its like the calm before the storm

Like oh shit what are they doing

[barren zephyr]

Who is the head of the balance team?

Do they expect players to just play the game like a manual from a factory?

[paper oriole]

I have no clue on that but they must really like carno and hate everything else except carno and teno

But even teno is bad now

Because carno snaps his legs like chicken bones

Does teno's slam even deal that sort of fracture? Havent been able to see my self yet

[barren zephyr]

Players are smart, they'll exploit and succeed out of any system they're given. They're not all gonna Roleplay, to the "vision" of the game.
They're gonna seek out metas, strats, and use the most effective ways to indulge in there own fun.

[paper oriole]

Yeah and i cant even blame them

In the end i cant stay mad at the carno megapacks committing mass murder for fun at every herbi plant hotspot, because i would do the same if the dinos i liked playing were that busted

[barren zephyr]

People don't understand that, people love combat
Watering it down for and making gigantic stat divisions doesn't do anyone favors other than dulling interactions

[paper oriole]

The lack of forethought from whoever is making these balance choices is the true villain in this catastrophe, not the players taking advantage

Who knows, maybe they were drunk when doing all this, but hopefully now they can see how awful the results are and are fixing it

[barren zephyr]

I agree, I don't blame the Utahs in update 2, 4 shotting Stegos
Nor do I blame Utahs solo'ing Stegos when abusing it's laughable defenses
I don't blame that no one plays Hypsi unless they're burning time

[paper oriole]

Lmao yeah stego was total fodder before i attacked them as dryo too

[barren zephyr]

All of this is designed, with seemingly knee jerk reactions, and little foresight

[paper oriole]

Maybe some day in the next century the isle will have a truly balanced and clean patch

[barren zephyr]

That only depends on who's leading the project

We had a strong comeback around Update 3

[paper oriole]

U3 was mostly good aside from some bugs

[barren zephyr]

But holy fuck they fumbled it hard after recent "balance" patches and this terrible diet system which had a cool concept to work off of

[paper oriole]

The diet faults especially could be seen a mile away too which is crazy

[barren zephyr]

They could've just kept the momentum, they don't always need to reinvent the wheel when stuff starts to seemingly work

[paper oriole]

Like no one in the team stopped and considered it

[barren zephyr]

That's the crazy part to me
How could no one in the team consider that's what might happen

[paper oriole]

Some overlooked problems are just too stupid to be stupid, like they did it with some ulterior motive

Maybe they were testing something with it, but if that was the case i wish theyd be more transparent

Like “we are making a change that may cause some problems in order to test something, but we plan on fixing it back later”

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, but somewhere in the testing there's the wrench. I call it
Where someone always introduces a mechanic or twist, something that'd be down voted in general feedback

[paper oriole]

Something being added that would get demolished if it was a suggestion like magy

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, that too for sure

[barren zephyr]

The wrench is also the one who keep reinventing the wheel
Like making Mud rare asf
This works, it wasn't busted or anything. It didn't need to outright disappear
Making changes no one is asking for, and if they are. They're in the minority

I guess people might've got upset for losing a chase, once their prey broke sight, mud bathed, then escaped

[paper oriole]

That change definitely seemed a bit weird to me, especially since pounce was supposed to be getting a buff directly iirc

[barren zephyr]

I still yet to see any dramatic change for pounce

The times I used it, I felt there was little change to the results

Wasn't really a deterrent to any of the Carnos I faced

[paper oriole]

Also while adding fracture to carno charge they didnt bother fixing the water exploit lol

Like literally, just add the aimed dismount and fix the water exploit instead of making mud puddles harder to find

[barren zephyr]

It just doesn't make sense

[paper oriole]

Then nobody is truly shafted

[barren zephyr]

Again it's the wrench, we ask for one thing
They decide to chuck the entire thing out and redo it from scratch

When in reality it just needed some tweaks and small additions

[paper oriole]

Occasionally they visibly use feedback but in 99% of cases its on something specific they asked for feedback on, like the solution to deino bleed

[barren zephyr]

The aimed dismount, and a tiny tiny sliver amount of invincible frames would've fixed everything wrong with pounce

[paper oriole]

It would be easier to fix a couple things than to redo it entirely wouldn’t it

The devs baffle me lol

Like why add something to a dino who was already thriving rather than fixing problems with other dinos first

[barren zephyr]

Like the water Pounce glitch

Like fixing Stego's still terrible matchup against any smalls

[paper oriole]

Yeah like the eater exploit, hypsi spit and dryo dodge, stego's ghostbox that can snipe people through buildings and rocks

[barren zephyr]

Or maybe idk, making Hypsi have growth and Dryo feasible playables

[paper oriole]

Hypsi should be less lame first honestly, once climbing is in ot might be worth it

Its a throwaway dino at its peak rn

[barren zephyr]

Though we shouldn't wait years for a beginning dino to be valuable

[paper oriole]

Its dumb that they added it so unfinished on its even current mechanics

[barren zephyr]

A speed and agility buff would fucking help

[paper oriole]

Why is hypsi so low on agility for its size anyway. Its jump is kinda lame and its spit is useless for anything but loltrolling

[barren zephyr]

just wait till it'll get climbing

Don't know, it's food for hunters that can't catch shit

[paper oriole]

Yeah thas what i was thinkin i hope its better then

Something shouldnt be playable with its only feature being “you are food”
Like yeah it is, everything is, but it should be fun to play

[barren zephyr]

I guess, knowing anything and everything can change before launch.
Hypsi has no point currently, with basically no other competition/no other smalls.

[paper oriole]

Who is gonna pick hypsi thinking “wowee i sure cant wait to get eaten by something faster and stronger than me that has basically equal agility and jumping ability”

[barren zephyr]

But nah
Let's buff Carno for some reason....

[paper oriole]

Lmao yeah…

[barren zephyr]

So to order it in a shopping list, we have
Unfixed/unfinished:
Pounce on water
Hypsi
Dryo
Stego's poor defense
Phantom range Tail jabs
Carno's phantom bites
Ai..Ai...Ai
Diets making Herbi's hell
Buildings
Docks
Spawns
Nutrient bars are your enemy

Changes:
Carni friendly diets
Paper Utah with Paper attacks
Carno molded world
Buffs to Carno
Herbi "biomes" now being ambush buffets for Carni's
Unending hungry Carno stomaches

[lavish quail]

jesus you guys went on a rant

[paper oriole]

Yes.

[paper oriole]

Man i hate when i start reading something in feedback and it just gets deleted lmao

[edgy stratus]

enyone else having problems joing right now ?

[lavish quail]

if its queues everyone does

@daring remnant Magy is a small sauropod

it weighs a hella lot

having it outspeed anything is a stretch

[paper oriole]

it weighs less than tenon pretty sure

doubt they can make it faster than cera without shafting cera tho

[daring remnant]

still better than just tasting bad

[lavish quail]

wait tf its that small?

[lavish quail]

i mean there isnt a point in losing health fighting it for no reason

[paper oriole]

its either slightly smaller or slightly larger than tenon, very small

idk if were getting 1300 magy or 1800

unironically id call for skunk magy over almost any other magy suggestion i see

[daring remnant]

some people will still try to kos it

[paper oriole]

in order for endurance magy to be viable, the endurance niche would need to be out of question for larger preds which would be boring

magy isnt human sized hed honestly be more viable if he was that small lmao

at least he could hide then

i doubt an allo or alberto will be risking anything attacking some magy

[daring remnant]

yeah, I hope they will just say "it's a waste of time, I'll leave him alone"

[paper oriole]

that aint happening

[daring remnant]

I hope

[paper oriole]

its the isle lol, kfs makes up for like half the kills in this game at least

[daring remnant]

that's true

the game is nice, the players are very meh

[lavish quail]

Just give magy something fun to defend itself with

[paper oriole]

carnos are mass kfsing while they have dozens of diet appropriate corpses lying around right now in qa

[paper oriole]

skunk magy

[lavish quail]

ew

[daring remnant]

that would make it a joke dino

[paper oriole]

it already is

[daring remnant]

still better than a punching bag

[paper oriole]

you act liek magy isnt already an absolute meme

[daring remnant]

it quite is

I know that

[lavish quail]

idk i like magy

gives us something different from 6 different types of trike

[paper oriole]

make magy spray predators in the face, fucking up their sense of smell and applying a sickness debuff and making them show up as a cloud in scent until they wash it off. then maybe people will think twice before merking the midget sauropod

[daring remnant]

that is a good idea lad

[lavish quail]

hypsi crying sounds

[daring remnant]

atleast hypsi can hide too

[paper oriole]

screw hypsi he gets to blind people still

[lavish quail]

dont talk shit about the hypsi

[paper oriole]

magy would probably also be more effective since its a spray and not a projectile that misse s90% of the time because aiming it while under attack is suicide

[lavish quail]

bad aim

cry more

[paper oriole]

nah is a predator actually is paying attention to you then using it is suicide

unless the predator has gnat iq function

[lavish quail]

hypsi best boi

[daring remnant]

I think the venomous spray should be like the one of the cane toad (having glands on their neck that release the venom once it get attacked in that point)

[paper oriole]

hypsi blind is decent in allied herd battles or trolling and thats basically it

[lavish quail]

You underestimate the mix pack

[paper oriole]

mix packing isnt a reliable or appropriate way to measure if something is good or not

[lavish quail]

wdym scum if a utah is chasing me down im baiting it to its death

herding is a better option

but if you kill hypsi for no reason your a moron

[paper oriole]

herbivores shouldnt need ot herd to be good playables, that is how you eliminate herds alltogether

[lavish quail]

either

[lavish quail]

what do you want from poor hypsi and dryo

we already knew that

[daring remnant]

only dryo is incomplete

[paper oriole]

imo using randoms as meat shields to divert/escape a threat isnt mix packing unless both parties are working together

[lavish quail]

hypsi needs climbing

[daring remnant]

I realized hipsy is too

dryo doesn't have a special ability and hypsi doesn't have climbing

[paper oriole]

dryo needs a less shitty dodge

[daring remnant]

the burrowing would be epic to have back

[paper oriole]

his special is supposed to be his dodge but it is hot garbage

[lavish quail]

you telling me you don't want Dilo troodon mix packs?

[lavish quail]

special needs to be advanced tunnels

[paper oriole]

[lavish quail]

wdym no

[paper oriole]

that should go to taco, not dryo

[daring remnant]

that's the definition of fear and hell

[lavish quail]

EXACTLY

[paper oriole]

dryo is fine with simple single chamber burrows

[lavish quail]

ew gross

[daring remnant]

dryo work better in an herd

[paper oriole]

certain herbis mixpacking is fine but i dont wanna see a bunch of stegos and trikes and ankys in a herd together

[lavish quail]

Your opinion on the scariest possible duo disgusts me

[lavish quail]

probably will have diet competition

[paper oriole]

hadrosaurs mixpacking is cool, flight herbivores in general mixpacking is cool, but powerhouses should generally be single-species groupers unless they ar ejust chilling with smalls

[daring remnant]

we're all talking about mixplacking, hipsy and dryo but no one talk about how they put every good ability into the minmi?

[lavish quail]

The horror tag for the game

[paper oriole]

what does minmi do? bury itself in mud and then die?

[daring remnant]

it can

burrow, hide underground, and swim

that too

[lavish quail]

i want people to see jack shit in the night while hearing dilo calls and lots of juvi dinos

[daring remnant]

it can do f*cking everything

[paper oriole]

well to be fair it kinda needs a lot to even be viable

[lavish quail]

everythings viable

nothing other than giga in legacy is non viable

[paper oriole]

its not like troodon who has excess with its mimicry that it would already be viable without

minmi would be pretty unviable without his abilities

[lavish quail]

para too

know what just legacy

[paper oriole]

giga in legacy was busted as fuck

[lavish quail]

legacy is bad

[paper oriole]

taco could be good if he gets advanced burrowing and nightvision, velo and oro can become viable too imo

[lavish quail]

Magy can be viable

[daring remnant]

yes

[paper oriole]

skunk magy would be totally viable

[lavish quail]

just depends how they play their cards

wait tf not again isle

fatal errors are fun

[paper oriole]

oh yeah, then in legacy they def are trash. giga is god tier in legacy though idk who said it was unviable

[daring remnant]

giga is viable, A tier

[lavish quail]

me

[paper oriole]

giga is a better predator than rex unless the rex has a sub army

[lavish quail]

nono thats awful

mixpacking between two dinos of similar goals tho

for instance troodon dilo packs

[paper oriole]

the difference between carni and herbi mixpacking is carnis are all designed to pursue, track and kill, while herbis arent designed to track, are worse at pursuit and mostly geared for defense. this makes carni mixpacking way worse on average

they cover eachothers weaknesses much more offensively than herbis

[lavish quail]

^^^

Haha your fucked

[paper oriole]

luckily when i pick hypsi i dont give a shit if i die lol

[daring remnant]

if you're a dryo not too much since that at the moment the dryo is the second fastest dinosaur

[lavish quail]

imagine your a freshspawn and hear a another call, only to get baited into a trap of dilos

bary should be a stream dino catching fish, deino should be a river dino and sucho swamp

[paper oriole]

coastal bary pls

[lavish quail]

oooooooooh

thats interesting

[paper oriole]

put bary on the coast with plateo

coast and mangrove dwellers

[lavish quail]

i like the bary in the phase 2 video tho

hope was it?

mmmmmmmmmmmm

[paper oriole]

perhaps but i just want him on the coast whether he has shit nightvisio or great nightvision lol

[lavish quail]

arguably no since dilo and troodon have far more unique gameplay

ive never seen that combo and its pretty nonviable

[paper oriole]

ive never run in to a bary sucho mix either

[lavish quail]

yeah bary is just worse utah anyway

at least in legacy

[paper oriole]

most suchos i run in to are pretty chill compared to almost every other carni base

[lavish quail]

never seen that

dont think i ever will since sucho is much slower

[paper oriole]

i rarely see suchos break rules on servers that have them, dont see them mix or megapacking and the ones who go in for a long pursuit typically end up being good players

[lavish quail]

thats just viable for every dino ever tho?

like utah baiting something into a carno attack

or allo baiting to rex

i mean if your failing to kill a bary outside of water your a moron

if you are in the water your basically dead anyway

if he is near water mabye

the utahs would be trash to lose on land

damn those would be some bad utahs

they have jump bleed and health advantage

thats why you dont see it

its not useful

like with diets the utahs are gonna get hunted anyway

Carno diet is bullshit i agree

But it wont really

you assume people do this automatically

also am i allowed to increase brightness with Geforce?

you've also seen sucho bary combo

you've seen it all

wanna see something cool?

give the isle a few seconds

.

why tho

it doesnt 😦

nah just trying to launch the game in different ways to see if it would work

game does not launch ever, isle hates me

[nimble nebula]

my fps is so bad any fixes

same thing goes for mechanic test? (thats where the issue is)

[hoary dawn]

best to just wait for the next patch

[nimble nebula]

wait uninstall the isle and then dont reinstall mechanic test?

but how do I reinstall mechanic test then?

[hoary dawn]

he's not trying to help you, just doing a little trolling

[nimble nebula]

oh lol im stupid XD

ok thanks

XD

[nimble nebula]

I got the same prob

[craggy sable]

quick question, drios can also dig in envrima?

[icy lion]

nope

[hoary dawn]

not yet

[paper oriole]

That dude thinks micro could even kill small herrera. The bastard would get bodied by a compy lmfao

[honest sparrow]

Micro is a cool animal

But it being able to survive in this game is ngl, ridiculous

[stable mica]

You genuinely wouldn’t be able to survive as micro

[barren zephyr]

just seems like a waste of time and money for such a useless animal

[karmic plank]

Nah, micro would be unkillable. You would be like a fly

Knee-high to a hypsi

There was talk about having small-Dino servers where all the tiny ones could play inside a big aviary. Seems really neat, even if it's years away

[rare fractal]

Emphasis on "Micro"

[fallen drift]

question... did the carno "stomp" sounds get removed or is this a bug?

Also, are fractures present? I got hit by a carno as an adult utah and was hobbling around... couldn't move well but no icons to tell me what was happening?

[karmic plank]

Silent carnos has been a bug for a while, you can't hear them if they are directly behind you. There's also a bug where all foot noises can disappear for you. No fractures in Evrima, only mechanics test

Sometimes you get bugs that stop you doing stuff but I've never heard of one stopping you moving (unless you got stuck in one of the little holes)

Or against a tree

[jaunty coral]

Yes fractures are present. It happened to me twice as well. You have to open your character screen and it will tell you you have a fracture

Well fractures are in the mechanic test, not yet in evrima. Didn’t know which you were referring to

[mystic cedar]

all mechanic test serv are down ?

[karmic plank]

yeah

Looks like Hypno is on the case

[cursive rover]

Why people want bigger map when players do not even wander most of the places we have in current map? It is really hard to find other players if you are not wandering in the popular areas. Big maps just feel empty. There is not much player interaction in this huge map. This also affects playables such as deino. Is there any good reason to play deino anymore? I mean there is a huge shallow river placed at north and now we have shallow water in south too. They even put pond and if deino tries to go there it would be suicide. If you are lucky you will interact with other players once in several hours(except other deinos that will gank and cannibalize you most probably). There is no point of playing this creature. North East of the map empty most of the time. So I think map should be smaller than this. It should include caves, hidden oasis ponds connected to deep rivers. Not endless plans imo.

[dense meteor]

@versed zodiac that's a joke right? Bleed doesn't do enough at all and pounce is fucked aswell so idk how those 2 are affecting you at all

[barren zephyr]

To be honest I fuckin hate big maps because you can hardly find people and it takes hours to travel to places. Like V3 in legacy was awful, was always a thenyaw person

Which is why I hope they're going to make a smaller map sometime soon

[dense meteor]

Right but with diets and what not people will go out and about there might be "popular" spots but eventually you'll have to go get your diet needs and that when carnis will ambush or follow you

[dire ridge]

agreed, utah main source of damage is laughable

[dense meteor]

Was trying to bleed off a stego one time and he just walked away and the bleed stopped within like 30 seconds after I bit him

At that point I was like yea there's no point

[dire ridge]

well stego is not the best example because it got a lot of blood

But if you try to bleed something without pounce, forget it lol

[dense meteor]

It wasn't full grown and I was full grown

[dire ridge]

did you manage to pounce it without getting Knock out ?

if thats the case im jealous lmao

(got killed by a juv stego 'cause of that bug)

[versed zodiac]

maybe it was bigger than expected. but i got fucked by bleed. to be fair i was in a bad diet

[dense meteor]

Nope didn't even pounce cause its useless just bit it a few times

[dire ridge]

no wonder then, the utah bite is weak asf so its bleed damage is trash too

[manic brook]

Is there a bug with the Utah right now? I was playing a full grown teno and a juvi (almost fresh spawn) utah came up to me and started attacking me. No matter how many times I bit, tail slapped, and bucked it off, it literally would not die. It finally killed me for the sole purpose of chasing me down anytime I would run off and bleeding me

[dense meteor]

Prob Ai

[manic brook]

Does AI constantly bark to the point of losing it's voice?

I'm not trying to be rude, that was a genuine question. This didn't act like any AI I've seen, so I wasn't sure if it was a bug that makes the juvi utahs godmodes or if someone was hacking. my pings been at a steady 60ish all day

[hoary dawn]

z walking is meant to be the slower quieter walk

why would trot be quiet

[paper oriole]

Coastal bary

Growth debuffs from weather you cant do shit about

[daring remnant]

I took the coastal bary idea from a message I saw in here like yesterday (maybe you typed it) and I really liked the idea, so if you typed it originally congrats because it was a good idea

[paper oriole]

Ive wanted coastal bary and plateo for a while so it might have been

[marble river]

you know, there's the things called trees with that green stuff called leaves, that can give you a decent protection from the raindrops(as far as i know), if you somehow struggle with finding those, there's cliffs that exist also. So you kinda can do shit about it

[daring remnant]

don't forget caves

[marble river]

that also, many thanks for reminding

[paper oriole]

The carnivore specific animal diet needs are one of the reasons i suggested this tbh

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[sacred moat]

@barren zephyr interesting idea! However, this simply wouldnt be viable in the isle. This will literally just be free headshots on the poor protoceratops

[paper oriole]

His bony face would probably take less damage from other smalls than bis body tho

If he could make single chamber burrows and block them with his face agains velos it could be a viable defense

[sacred moat]

yeah they can have a smaller damage multiplier for head shots (as all ceratopsians should have) but we can still damage them and stack bleed

like it cant just sit in a hole and be fine

thats not how the isle works

it would just take the velos a few extra mins to land more headshots to kill it

[paper oriole]

Ceratopsians should have no headshot multiplier

Also their bites would probably hurt like a bitch

[sacred moat]

i mean yeah

but ig we'll have to see how they do ceratopsians

[sacred moat]

also this to a certain degree

they shouldnt be immune to dmg on their heads

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-turtle-crush-apple-eat-gif-11717914

Velo's head when he gets too close to proto in his hole

[sacred moat]

it should just take extreme bonecrushing force to really damage one on the head

^that statement goes for all ceratopsians not just proto

[paper oriole]

Ceratopsians should be one of those things you are heavily encouraged to ambush as opposed to brawling

[sacred moat]

||tell that to teno||

[paper oriole]

Aside from taco of course, but he should have advanced burrowing

[sacred moat]

i forget taco is related in that family

what a loser

[paper oriole]

Yeah hes pretty sad lol

But he could be cool with advanced burrows and porcupine quills

[sacred moat]

imagine it with an iguana tail whip + quills

[paper oriole]

lol it could actually make another small regret their decision maybe

[sacred moat]

imagine youre a sub rex and you accidentally step on a taco. You kill it obviously but the quills get pushed so deep in your foot that it becomes infected and now you have a limp and you die from starvation

[paper oriole]

Ngl dinos who aren’t keeping up with their diet should be more prone to infections like that. Porcupine quill wounds often get infections irl so it would make sense for taco to be able to inflict that

Same with cerato with all the rotten shit hell be eating, should be able to dish out infections if he eats enough carrion

[sacred moat]

ngl, id literally grow a taco with the hopes of fucking over some limp tail rex main

[paper oriole]

Honestly same i doubt there’d be much to lose lol

But thered be a lot of potential satisfaction to gain

[sacred moat]

not our fault the rex wasnt healthy enough to survive that sort of injury

[hoary dawn]

feathered rex is no

feathered carno is sin

[paper oriole]

Feathered carno

Rex is ok with some peach fuzz but nothing more

What we really need is chonkers rex

[sacred moat]

id be okay with peach fuzz rex, but they slowly lose it as they get older

[fallen drift]

Yeah I'm on QA, thanks! I was so confused as I didn't see a mention of fractures coming in any QA patches. Guess I missed it. How long does it last? Or is it just that thing where if you have a fracture you're basically dead because they can just bite you to death? lol

[hoary dawn]

in my experience for leg fractures you just have to sit and heal them

[fallen drift]

Ahhhh that sucks. Silent carnos are super deadly... :\

I've had my own footstep sound disappear, usually happens when the ambient crickets pick up in volume.

Thanks

[fallen drift]

If a carno hit you and you're fractured, not much to do but die at that point. I had 3 subs on me (it was me and another utah, both adults) and I was like... "welp, guess I'll die now because they were silent and charging..."

[jaunty coral]

I second I always kill my own. All I did was sit and healed. It lasted some minutes though

[hoary dawn]

once the update is put out in full and we have free grow servers back it'll be easier to test the limits of fractures

[karmic plank]

Ya, that will be all I'll be doing for the first few days on mine. Testing and documenting, unless the devs are kind enough to give us the details

[mellow maple]

Head of time I can list several instances in JP and JW where the dinosaurs unpronate their hands to attack humans. Literally proving that pronated hand posture is absolutely fucking pointless.

[sonic monolith]

Hello, can someone explain to me why the servers are no longer displayed for me? I was able to see the server before, but now I cannot see them or they are not displayed to me.

[barren zephyr]

@mellow maple Nicely worded, I 100% agree with your feedback

[glass swan]

@mellow maple i also agree but how would pouncing work in game when the utah uses its hands to grab the top of its prey(i mean large prey btw)

[paper oriole]

feathered raptors can use their psuedo wings for balance probably

while mounting

[honest sparrow]

we could just make everything t pose instead

no animations anymore

[paper oriole]

make the dinosaurs vibrate while looking at eachother like those old pokemon battles

[honest sparrow]

perfect

that way its just the models and we don't have to worry about proper posture and movement anyway

[karmic plank]

As long as I get to play charizard I'm OK with this

[dreamy peak]

Does anyone know why when i try to join a server on the testing branch it launches me back to the main menu?

[weak dune]

Recent bug seems like. That or there are just so many people hopping in and out, but pretty sure its a bug

[feral solstice]

@barren zephyr Skill issue

[barren zephyr]

Yes

[karmic plank]

Will always be an issue

The Isle is client-side hit rego

I haven't heard any news of any sort of lag compensation being added

[barren zephyr]

[barren zephyr]

Thats literally impossible.

Well it is not quote on quote impossible, but if you do client side predicton you need to have a good network programmer iirc.