general-feedback-discussion

[meager tiger]

like a croc and lizard will be

im trying to suggest other non dinosaur tactics animals

that we dont have

[visual patrol]

Any ideas

[meager tiger]

All I can think of is a turtle lol

but turtle might be a bit boring

whose gonna wanna be a giant walking tank slow as hell

[visual patrol]

I like the idea but I agree

[meager tiger]

then again

we have saurpods

and those are slow

idk

maybe turtles are heavily armored against bullets

[visual patrol]

Hmmm maybe a smaller crocodilian like kaprosuchus

[meager tiger]

lol

Anti human shield

every herbi squad wants a turtle

Maybe a terror bird

Terror bird can be much faster due to less bone density?

but wayyy less HP

[sacred moat]

Terror bird is just going to get smacked by Utah’s AND carnos

[still raptor]

@gilded jacinth that picture is depicting a Edmonto/anato biting a rex. Not grappling it. A grapple mechanic for hadrosaurs doesn’t makes sense and its useless. If you mean biting, then sure because all creatures should have a standard bite.

[gilded jacinth]

It is more than a bite. It is clearly knocking the rex over or at least pushing it and holding on with its mouth. Aka:a grapple. Which is something they could do in real life. Whether you like the idea or not.

Look at the rexes legs. The Edmonto is clearly pushing it over while holding on with its mouth aka grappling.

It very much would not be useless because the hadrosaur could hold the predator down while others could help fight it, or it could push it over an obsticals such as a cliff, or into a river.

And it is not conceptually ridiculous either.

[barren zephyr]

that is not grappling, that is shoving

[gilded jacinth]

Pushing + holding = a grapple

[barren zephyr]

pushing an adversary

the biting is just there to cause a bit more extra pain

[gilded jacinth]

They are pushing with the foot and holding onto the rex with the mouth so they can help guide it's descent. Ergo the Edmonto controls where the rex falls ergo a grapple.

It is not just a bite and not just a shove it is both

Like it or not.

grap·ple
/ˈɡrapəl/
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verb
gerund or present participle: grappling
1.engage in a close fight or struggle without weapons; wrestle.
"passersby grappled with the man after the knife attack"
Similar:wrestle, struggle, tussle, brawl, fight, scuffle, clash, combat, battle, close, engage
Seize hold of someone.
"He grappled the young man around the throat"
Similar:seize, grab, lay hold of, take hold of, grip, hold, grasp, clasp, clench, catch hold of, catch, lay one's hands on, get one's hands on
Opposite:let go of, release
struggle with or work hard to deal with or overcome (a difficulty or challenge).
"other towns are still grappling with the problem"
Similar:tackle, confront

[peak harness]

why do so many people think this is a bad idea? can anyone lmk cause im rlly confused why people think its good that a herbivore can outrun and kill anything it wants even though it doesnt need the meat..

[weak dune]

If you get rid of one form of trolling, the trolls will just find the next best thing

[paper oriole]

1. Overtrusting people being friendly with strangers and getting salty when they die is lmao
2. Teno is slower than carno, it should out stam the fastest dino in the game especially since that dino should be ambush hunting anyway
3. Carno can get distance and wallow

[weak dune]

And lbh most of the Teno's hunting other players as a Teno that aggressively are trolls

[paper oriole]

If teno gets ruined people will just kfs with another dino

[peak harness]

but then there will be less trolling..

[paper oriole]

Not at all

[weak dune]

Lol no

[paper oriole]

Theyll just do the exact same shit with other dinos

[weak dune]

Trolls are gonna troll. It doesn't matter what tool you give them

[paper oriole]

If teno gets nerfed to have shit stam just so he cant run down bad carnos who dont know how to wallow it will be a bad animal and the trolls will move on to the next good dino

[peak harness]

huh.. :/

[limber hull]

also, dont ruin a perfectly good dino because of trolls

teno is fun

[paper oriole]

Exactly

[weak dune]

Hypsi, Dryo, Teno, and Ptera are all known troll dinos. Again, it won't "stop" them from trolling, it'll just punish the people who want to play them legitimately, and then people will never play them legitimately.

[limber hull]

its really one of the only bearable herbis atm

[paper oriole]

Its so fucking annoying like in legacy where herbis got nerfed to shit because people whined and cried about trolls using them to kos

We dont need teno to be another legacy para

[limber hull]

agreed, but id prefer smaller, rarer streams to the massive shallows we have now

[weak dune]

The shallows are a little ridiculous

[limber hull]

more than ridiculous, they literally harm aquatic playstyles. Literally so hard to get between to halves of the map, since the only path is through these ridiculous shallows

[weak dune]

Like I appreciate having SOME option of shallow, safe water to drink from but the shallows as they are now are excessive

And I don't even play Deino most of the time

[limber hull]

i agree, its very frustrating. There needs to be something done about it if I'm honest, it very much dictates where most of the population of the game lives

[broken thorn]

@maiden anvil 's suggestions don't get enough credit

[urban flax]

@maiden anvil I'm worried your suggestion would make Acro into a worse giga or worse rex
If giga is stronger and faster than acro (which it will most likely be) then it invalidates Acro's role as a bully.
Rex might also be both faster and stronger than acro depending on the speed it's given, and considering rex will also likely be a scavenger/bully it's also gonna invalidate Acro's existence.

But honestly, in don't see how Acro could work in the game at all.

[inner hound]

<@&401466542140817419> in all feeedbackchannels lol

actually all channels i believe

[odd sedge]

The @ everyone

[maiden anvil]

Thank you for your honesty. I was just throwing in a bunch of ideas I found neat and could work for Acro. I kinda see your point about Acro being invalid but also not

[maiden anvil]

Thx!

[gritty helm]

I think a better idea would be to optimize the game and strengthening the official servers so that they could hold more players while still keeping everything smooth. Now, if player count isn't the issue and its just you wanting to swap to another creature without losing all that progress on that apex that took 5+ hours to grow that is something that can be easily abused by using Ptera/Quetz to scout out an area and then swapping back to said apex to just demolish the area. Making players pay for extra slots just isn't gonna absolve that issue

[jovial hazel]

@remote thunder Have you tried mapping them in the "%localappdata%\TheIsle\Saved\Config\WindowsClient\GameUserSettings.ini" file?

[remote thunder]

No not yet. It'd just be nice if they added that option in game though. It's weird because on certain dinos like Carno, you can ALT-attack if you hold down the button you mapped your Primary Attack to... but not on other dinos.

I understand it's in development and the Gamepad is probably the last thing they're thinking about. It would be pretty easy to add it in though.

[jovial hazel]

Ah ok, just a suggestion. I understand what you mean.

[remote thunder]

I'll try that though. Ty. 👍

[wicked furnace]

@maiden anvil Yo these fanmade concept arts are really sick, would love to see some other dinos that are yet to get a concept, like alberto or quetz

[ebon girder]

@urban bear Your wrong, Utah was not that big

[urban bear]

it was tho

[ebon girder]

No it was not, Utah was 500kg, maybe 600kg at max, and the utah u send is too tall

And our Utah is too skinny anyway so it weights too much, its good that its getting downsized to 450kg

[urban bear]

not to tall at all and its not to heavy either just do your research

utah height came in at around 2-2.3 meters or 7.4 feet tall

[ebon girder]

Outdated info, ill send u a accurate utah after in 15 minutes

[urban bear]

not outdated at all its fossil records

just look at a utahraptor mount its not hard

[lavish quail]

having it bigger unbalances the game

[urban bear]

not really

[lavish quail]

tho realism is good its still just a game

[urban bear]

becuase you make it bigger and nerf its attributes like speed stamina and damage

[lavish quail]

having more weight means it can pounce a pachy and pin it, it also gives it more health and damage

[urban bear]

then it gives you room to make things like pachy dilo etc bigger

[urban bear]

its already going to pin pachy so that wont matter

[lavish quail]

plus the utah rn is the fun to play underdog

giving it more accuracy would be boring

[urban bear]

its not really an under dog right now

[ashen wasp]

Why would Utah’s size impact Dilo and Pachy’s sizes??

[urban bear]

becuase if utahs big that means you need to upsize those 2 for balance

or it wont be fair if you have a 700kg utah running around killing stuff 200kg less then it

u make utah big u can push dilo carno pachy and more up

[ashen wasp]

Less “can”, then, and more “have to”

[lavish quail]

but legacy dinos felt massive

and what about humans

[urban bear]

what about humans

they are already small, making dinosaurs bigger ups the horror for them enhancing the gameplay

[ashen wasp]

Besides, then Utah would be less agile, speedy, etc. climbing would feel even less realistic, it may have to crouch to enter human buildings, etc. Big Utah doesn’t really seem to fit what’s already established for it

[urban bear]

yes but it wont need tree climbing if its almost the size of a carno and and slightly slower willl it

[lavish quail]

but utah wouldnt be able to fit in buildings too

[urban bear]

it can just bend over becuase it would be taller

[lavish quail]

making the dinos massive like in legacy would be boring af

[urban bear]

just duck its head down

not hard

[lavish quail]

but that is annoying and boring

[urban bear]

not really, the devs are doing some weird size shuffling in evrima the weights in legacy were perfect

how its it boring

its a big ass raptor that can tear things apart

whats boring about that

[lavish quail]

utah felt like a fat fuck

so did everything

[urban bear]

becuase legacys movement sucked??????

2 different momvent systems now thats an invalid point

at the start of evrima utah was around 1000kg and was slowy downsized to better fit the roster and it felt fine

it went from 1k to 750 to 500

[lavish quail]

i dont want a fat utah just like a dont want an animation for laying an egg

its pointless and makes the game less fun

[urban bear]

how does it make the game less fun

it makes an animal how it should be

[lavish quail]

fat utah bad utah

[urban bear]

how

explain

[paper oriole]

The devs want jp raptor not real utah

So

[urban bear]

which is just stupid on its own

[paper oriole]

It is

[urban bear]

nobody wants a jp rip off

[paper oriole]

Honestly they should just rename the animal to resolve the issue

[urban bear]

the devs have the righs to primal carnage make utah nova raptor and make utahraptor its own thing

[paper oriole]

A real Utahraptor wouldnt be able to fulfill the role of a weightless jp ripoff raptor

[urban bear]

your right

[ebon girder]

wrong

[paper oriole]

They should just call it Apolloraptor after Apollo Engineering

[urban bear]

if they want a jp ripoff make it a different animal

[urban bear]

its also not standing up straight and that utah is much much larger then the isles

look at the utahs pose in the picture i sent

[ebon girder]

its hip is still to tall

[urban bear]

different posture

[lavish quail]

realism is cool and all but it also sucks

[urban bear]

not once did i say make it look real

[ebon girder]

utah hip height is like 1.5 to 1.6m

[urban bear]

i said make it bigger or closer to its real size

[urban bear]

nobody brought up hip height

head height

[ebon girder]

well how tf is it gonna be 700 kg but still be skinny when the utah i send is bulky af and still only 500kg

[urban bear]

then dont make it skinny

[paper oriole]

It would look awful flying around like a jp raptor at realistic size

[ebon girder]

u said "not once did i say make it look real" so i assumed you meant accurate by that, u never mentioned that u want a model change

[urban bear]

thats why it needs to be either fully reworked or made its own animal and we have something replace the current one

[lavish quail]

just let the game have its utah be unique and fun

[urban bear]

im just talking about weight and lenght

[paper oriole]

Unfortunately the devs probably love jp too much to consider that

[urban bear]

but with a bigger size has to come a model change

[paper oriole]

It isnt unique

[barren zephyr]

Jp ripoff

[lavish quail]

its pretty unique

[urban bear]

thats why im saying just make nova raptor our current utahraptor and make utah raptor its own animal

[paper oriole]

An actual utahraptor would be more unique and its kinda sad

[ebon girder]

But its lenght and height is accurate, current utah is too skinny for its current weight tho

[urban bear]

which is why the devs need to just make it nova raptor and its to short in game

[paper oriole]

Its the copypaste jp raptor thats in all the mainstream dino media how is it unique in the slightest. It even has the bark call

[ebon girder]

its 5m in game which is accurate

[pale bloom]

I don't understand the amount of nosense hate JP Utah has, I mean most dinosaur games have feathered realistic Utah and Isle just wanted something similar to whats been seen in the movies

[urban bear]

perfect utah

[paper oriole]

Its ugly and boring because its everywhere

[urban bear]

its till 500k but its much bigger then the current one

[pale bloom]

The reason of that hate could be many, hate torwards the movies, hate because when they watched the movies as kids the Utah made them piss their pants at night, or just a Legacy bad taste leftover

[ebon girder]

Current Utah is literally the same size

[lavish quail]

you cant compare it to anything else because its its own creature, the devs didnt copy and paste anything its completely fine as it is, all it needs is balance changes not realstic crap for rp servers

[pale bloom]

For me realistic Utah its ugly

[urban bear]

last time i checked our current utah isnt 8 feet tall

[paper oriole]

Lmao no

[urban bear]

look at the top left

[pale bloom]

And then what's the issue?

[ebon girder]

Ur fucking dumb if u think that the utah in that picture is 8ft tall, also that would be extremly oversized

[urban bear]

read the top dumbass

[paper oriole]

So you think wrinkly leather skin, shrunken muscle mass, and broken wrists looks cool?

I guess its all opinion

[urban bear]

2.4 meters=8 feet tall

[lavish quail]

does anyone here have a problem of how its like to play utah rn?

[urban bear]

its in the top left

[ebon girder]

the top says that its 8ft tall but that cant be cuz a human is not 8ft tall, also thats fucking oversized

[lavish quail]

anyone?

[urban bear]

its a common trend to make animals bigger and slighty stray off their fossil records and make proportions bigger so whats the problem?

[pale bloom]

I prefer skinned over feathered, muscle mass well I don't care at this point since Utah its made of glass and make it heavier and muscular will make balance feedback explode, as for the wrists, I'm not looking for a paleo accurate animal when it's based on a fictional movie creature

[lavish quail]

if not i dont see why this shit is a problem

[paper oriole]

Some people think dinos that look like dollar store plastic toys look cool and the devs are among those people, but they should at least rename it like come on

[pale bloom]

People here just disliked JP Utah and that's it

[lavish quail]

cause at this point your just shitting on the devs for making a game that you seem very invested in

[barren zephyr]

Things getting a little spicy in here?

[lavish quail]

yep.

[random hazel]

@maiden anvil how do you create concept art? looks pretty neat

[urban bear]

no they just suck a dinosaue desgine consistancy

[barren zephyr]

we need a mod to come stop this?

[paper oriole]

The wrists arent as big of a gripe to me due to accuracy as much as the fact that its just ugly

[ebon girder]

"slightly stray off" going by the stuff said top left (even tho that cant be correct) its almost 1m taller than a the fossil records

[lavish quail]

if you hate it enough move to a different game

[urban bear]

ok and look at other dinos in the game

[urban bear]

its common fact at this point, you got carno thats almost spot on realisim then u got stuff like utah

[ebon girder]

I thought u wanted utah to be more accurate in size, ive told u that its accurate in size already, so i dont understand why u still want it to be bigger

[pale bloom]

Wrist is a minor thing that could be fixed, but not changing the entire animal, also rename it wouldn't help, it's not a Velo, it's not a Deinonichus (considering the size)

[urban bear]

not complaining if its a bit taller then it was irl

[paper oriole]

Tenonto's mega buff tail isnt accurate either but it looks good, utahraptors wrists are the opposite of a good looking unrealistic change

[ebon girder]

theres no reason for it

[lavish quail]

the model and size it has now leads to about the most fun utah gameplay in any dino game ive ever played

[urban bear]

why not, it doesnt change it weight it just looks bulky like it should and its tall, theres no down side to that change

[lavish quail]

its basically perfect

[paper oriole]

Renaming it to a fictional species unique to the isle (despite the design being anything but unique) like primal carnage's Novaraptor

[ebon girder]

cant make it bulky if you make it taller cuz then u have to change the weight

[pale bloom]

Could be done, but that wouldn't stop the hate torwards the playable, I know there something else with it

[paper oriole]

Like why even call it utahraptor if it looks different, acts different, and is the inaccurate size

[urban bear]

fax

[ebon girder]

its the accurate size tho, its just that the model doesnt fit the weight, and is extremly accurate ofc

[paper oriole]

It would probably lessen the hate because at least it wouldnt be charading as an actual cool dinosaur

[lavish quail]

because its cool and well known

[urban bear]

utah raptor is not well known

[paper oriole]

“It's cool” but they change the whole animal? And Utahraptor isnt vety mainstream

[urban bear]

velociraptor is well known

[pale bloom]

JP Raptor is

[urban bear]

true

but the jp rator isnt utah raptor

[north sentinel]

I hope we are being civil in here.

[lavish quail]

its just what people imagine a velociraptor being like before they realise their tiny

[paper oriole]

Just call the bastard Dondiraptor or Apolloraptor ajd stop humiliating Utahraptor with this lab experiment mistake of an animal design

[pale bloom]

And that fictional creature could be called Novaraptor or anything, but it's cool in my opinion

[urban bear]

nova raptor should be its own thing and then the devs should make utah raptor its own animal

fixes the problem

[paper oriole]

Isle Utahraptor stinky

[lavish quail]

jesus if you wanna shit on the devs at least tag them if you have the balls to

[paper oriole]

?????

The fuck?

I said call it dondiraptor or something actually read lmao

How is that shitting on the devs

[ebon girder]

i dont really understand why yall care if it looks accurate or not tbh

[urban bear]

nobody is shitting on the devs

were saying the made a mad creature desgine

[lavish quail]

your screaming that their utah is a disgrace

[urban bear]

thats not shitting on them

[paper oriole]

Dondi is the creator of the game its fairly obvious why i put Dondiraptor as a rename there

[urban bear]

thats critisim

[paper oriole]

Their utah is a disgrace its a jp velociraptor with a random dino's name slapped on it

[urban bear]

^

[lavish quail]

its more like a petty argument about how its not perfect

[paper oriole]

But it would be less bad if it carried a fictional name

[urban bear]

no its not its saying the utah we have in game its not even close to what a utah is so far that it shouldnt be called utah

[lavish quail]

its done there way

have you seen the shit in any other game

they just made it tbh better

[paper oriole]

Its like if they added a random movie ripoff dragon and called it hatzegopteryx

[urban bear]

yes but most dinos are just slightly changed, the utah is so far off it shoudlnt be called utah

theres good dino desgine like deino carno teno deinocheiyrus and many others

[ebon girder]

a lot of dinos arent just slightly changed

[urban bear]

yes but the good ones are the ones that are

they remain true to life and still get that isle treatment that makes them special

[lavish quail]

i mean i dont see why it needs to be true to the kilogram

[urban bear]

nobody said it did

[pale bloom]

When Spino is released people gonna be whining about its looks as well

[ebon girder]

why do you only care about utah being changed tho if theres many other creatures getting changed too

[lavish quail]

its the best utah in any game there is so far

[pale bloom]

"Call it SpinoRex"

[urban bear]

because its the only game that has one

besides roblox dinosaur simulator

[lavish quail]

if another game did add it would it be better?

[pale bloom]

Not really there's many games with own fictional Utah designs, Turok is an example

[urban bear]

im not saying it would feel better to play as but they would still make it an actual utah raptor

[paper oriole]

Because utah change is just a ripoff from a movie rather than a unique change created by the devs of the isle

[urban bear]

the current utah we have is so far away from what it was in real life its not a utah raptor anymore

[pale bloom]

Also Primal Carnage Raptor looks similar to JP

[urban bear]

but pce did the smart thing and didnt call it utah raptor

[ebon girder]

How do you know? Im sure that another dinosaur game might also not care about accuracy and just make a utah that doesnt look like the real one at all

[paper oriole]

Somehow PC's Novaraptor has more personality than the isle utah, maybe it's his face... but it is also a jp clone

[lavish quail]

the utah rn looks like its from a movie or something and its awesome to look at

[urban bear]

if there is one then its not big enough to be popular

[urban bear]

yes it looks cool and nobody said change it but its not big enough to be a utahraptor

[ebon girder]

what?

[urban bear]

?

[lavish quail]

so your saying change it?

make up your mind

[urban bear]

i said make it its own animal and make the current one novaraptor

[ebon girder]

why did u respond with that

[lavish quail]

so add another barely different creature and change this ones name?

thats dumb

[urban bear]

becuase i said if there is another game that has a utah raptor its not popular enough for anybody to care abot

[lavish quail]

the whole idea of evrima is that everything is unique and fun

nothing rn is near the same to play

[paper oriole]

But utah isnt unique

[urban bear]

yes make utah raptor a actual utah raptor make it bigger and then make the current utah raptor nova raptor

[paper oriole]

So it defeats that point

[ebon girder]

Why did u say that, how did responding with that make sense

[urban bear]

that way we have 2 unique animals

[lavish quail]

what is the same kind of playstyle to utah rn

tell me

do it

[urban bear]

bro u said other games could also have utah raptors and i responded with that

what do u mean

[paper oriole]

It isnt unique because it's literally jurassic park raptor

[lavish quail]

where can i play jurassic park?

just lemme know

ill be here

[ebon girder]

U said that a dinosaur game that is not the isle would make utah accurate, i asked you how you are so sure about that and that i think that they might make an inaccurate one too

[urban bear]

No the play style is unique the model and proportions aren't

[paper oriole]

Lots of mobile games with the same kinda raptor design being used as the isle's utah

[pale bloom]

That's not gonna work considering Velo its also some kind of small game raptor that could potentially have a pounce mechanic, having 3 raptors is just too much

[urban bear]

path of titans would be it accurate

it depends on the game

pot goes for realisim

[lavish quail]

pot is boring af

[ebon girder]

Ok? Why didnt u say that then, u cant just say any game that is not the isle would make it accurate

[urban bear]

it is yes

[lavish quail]

everything feels the same there

[urban bear]

any game that goes for a realistic theme

[ebon girder]

U didnt say that

[paper oriole]

PoT sometimes goes for realism but then it also has galloping sarcosuchus with boneless tails and theropods using their tails as whips in combat

[urban bear]

the isle goes for exaggerated realism

[urban bear]

im trying to respond to 2 people at once

[urban bear]

it does yes but their models and weight are still good

[ebon girder]

not my fault for misunderstanding if u cant answer correctly and without mistakes

[lavish quail]

but its boring

thats why realism sucks ass

[urban bear]

never said it was your fault

[urban bear]

didnt say it didnt

[lavish quail]

then why are you complaininggggg

[urban bear]

i never said make utah fully accurate i just said if your going to call it utah raptor it needs to be larger

[lavish quail]

im so confused

[urban bear]

you cant call in anima that is was smaller then what it was irl a utah raptor

[pale bloom]

If I have to compare Isle as Dino game it could be the "Battlefield" of shooters, realistic looks and features but not a full realistic simulator, BoB is the CoD of Dino survival games

[urban bear]

they can call the current utah raptor nova raptor since they have the rights to primal carnage then take utah raptor and make it is own larger animal that looks like it should be a utah raptor

[ebon girder]

true

[pale bloom]

So yeah, full realism could be indeed boring af

[lavish quail]

i mean jurassic world make velociraptors into massive featherless things and it was the most badass thing ive ever seen

[urban bear]

nobody said the current raptor we have isnt cool but it just doesnt make sense to call it utahraptor

[pale bloom]

Lethal & intelligent creatures also

[tawny juniper]

iirc the intelligence is fake aswell

[pale bloom]

It's fake, but as a fictional movie thing, it was cool

[tawny juniper]

Raptors were smart among other dinosaurs but I think they'r eonly supposed to be as smart as rabbits or something

[urban bear]

the devs can still keep that current utah we have and keep it the way it is, but then you can make utahraptor its own animal thats bigger and looks different

[tawny juniper]

Agreed

[lavish quail]

i like our utah

hes great

[pale bloom]

With this I don't mean I want stupid shit like Indoraptor or something that's too much imo

But Isle never been a full paleorealistic game, we have Strains (which honestly looks badass) and humans together with dinosaurs, that's not realistic

[lavish quail]

i mean this mf looks perfect rn

[pale bloom]

Even the next update gonna bring chickens and goats as part of diets, common that's not realistic

But it works , and if it's fun, for me it's welcome

[urban bear]

yes which is way im trying to say the devs should keep it and just rename it then make utah raptor an actual utah raptor

[lavish quail]

do you really want a chonky neck?

[lavish quail]

but thats dumb

they would basically be the same size

what ability would you give the new utah

[pale bloom]

I think the best deal is giving the current Utah a feathered skin choice

[urban bear]

they wouldnt even be close to the same size

[honest sparrow]

What would actual Utah do tho

[lavish quail]

basically the same

and what would you give it

[honest sparrow]

And personally I think we have a good variety of small carnis anyway

[urban bear]

utah raptor was around 700 or more kgs and around 7ft tall

massive difference

[honest sparrow]

Utah at max was 500 kg

[urban bear]

nope

[lavish quail]

im sorry does that make a difference to this man?

or teno

or carno

[paper oriole]

Idk if actual utahraptor would function well im the isle, they should just rename the current one and be done with it

[lavish quail]

litteraly just an extra peice of prey

[honest sparrow]

This tbh

[urban bear]

thats a cerato and an actual utahraptor

its massive

[lavish quail]

i mean here is ours

basically the same

[lavish quail]

yeah

[paper oriole]

Like the real utahraptor is cool but it would be fodderized by mid tiers

[lavish quail]

like a ft difference

[urban bear]

and a massive weight difference

[honest sparrow]

(Utah is actually thought to be smaller it’s just max size is cooler)

[lavish quail]

a human head more

and that depends what human your using

[paper oriole]

Real utah is a lot lore muscle dense yeah

[lavish quail]

who cares thooo

[urban bear]

you start a debate then just go who cares

[paper oriole]

It is slower, bulkier and cant fly around like a samurai kangaroo

[urban bear]

lol

[lavish quail]

this man is basically perfect

adding another raptor and changing this man is pointless

[paper oriole]

He should be renamed

[lavish quail]

and renaming him is like a nerd roleplay thing

[paper oriole]

Not really

[urban bear]

how

[honest sparrow]

Gameplay wise Utah is fine, visually Utah isn’t Utah, but that’s fine as we could just rename it or just leave it as is

[urban bear]

utah is way to small in game to be called utah

[silver zephyr]

imo its either no fake names or all fake names for the dinos

[urban bear]

its like taking rex and calling it allosaurs

[paper oriole]

Its a game about genetically engineered mutant beasts charading as dinosaurs how would it be out of place to have a fictional species name

[honest sparrow]

Not really

[lavish quail]

utah isnt utah but stuff like teno, im pretty sure doesnt exist so i say its fine

[severe idol]

At this point the name is too well-known and distinct for the character that's (arguably) the face of the game - It would be like suddenly changing Kratos' name to "Carl" in the next God of War game because Kratos wasn't a good name.

[paper oriole]

A lot of the dinos should have fictional species names at least

Just add them on to make it less gross

[lavish quail]

EXACTLY

changing my boi would be a crime

[honest sparrow]

Eh

[severe idol]

It's well known that The Isle dinosaurs aren't named properly or physically 'proper', that's part of the game now.

[barren zephyr]

Who cares anyways? These aren’t real animals. Just genetic monstrosities cooked up in a lab

[lavish quail]

this man is iconic for this game

plus lore wise it makes enough sense i guess

[pale bloom]

Guys, it's simple

What is this?

[barren zephyr]

Looks like a rex to me

[pale bloom]

Alright

And this?

[barren zephyr]

Rex

[pale bloom]

Then we're done

[lavish quail]

exactly!

[barren zephyr]

Both look cool

[lavish quail]

one looks like a badass sci fi game version

[pale bloom]

Yup, and even if someone dislikes one of them, it's a self opinion

[lavish quail]

one looks like a normal game version

[pale bloom]

Both options are respetable

[lavish quail]

i mean what is wrong with this beauty

he is a work of art

now off to do admin things peace

[pale bloom]

[hoary dawn]

he is a ripoff of jp raptor that has subpar animations

whether the design is good or not is irrelevant since the whole thing isn't at all original

[lavish quail]

wdym bro

give me a side by side comparison with images and examples

they made it by themselves

[hoary dawn]

didn't say they didn't make the model

[lavish quail]

and he is a perfect boi

i dont care about the model rn

just compare them

this is accurate yes?

this is unique

this is less accurate

but this is more iconic

[pale bloom]

Carno is one of my fav dinos design wise

[pale bloom]

And it's accurate in size and looks so, anything could be cool

[lavish quail]

you see on the right that seems to be a quote unquote velo

made strictly for movie purposes

and to be iconic

[hoary dawn]

jp raptors are inaccurately named, i referred to the design

[lavish quail]

you see what is similar here

[honest sparrow]

Everything

[paper oriole]

Copyaste

[honest sparrow]

Even the calls are basically the same

[paper oriole]

Literally the barks are so shameless

[hoary dawn]

its just copying a famous design without putting any original spin on it

[lavish quail]

it has an original spin

[hoary dawn]

what

[honest sparrow]

It has mustard smeared on it

[lavish quail]

right so part 1 its a game

[paper oriole]

Is the original spin the fact that they gave it a different inaccurate name than jp did?

[hoary dawn]

it being in a game has nothing to do with its design being unoriginal

[honest sparrow]

It’s a game, this means it is entirely ok to rip off something else yes

[lavish quail]

no no

its not a complete ripoff

if they wanted to do that they'd be sued

look if they wanted to make a different from other games raptor that is fast and agile looking wtf are they gonna do otherwise?

make it fucking made of spaghetti

[hoary dawn]

maybe just not copy the most famous dinosaur media?

[lavish quail]

its either give it feathers like every other game

or

make it without feathers and unique

[hoary dawn]

what other game even has utahraptor

[lavish quail]

at the cost of that being done before

[paper oriole]

It isnt different from other dino games though, at least mobile games lmao. the isle's utahraptor is as creative as a moneygrabbing mobile game

[honest sparrow]

Head ✅
Body ✅
Hominid intelligence canonically ✅
Pack hunter ✅
Had tiger stripes at one point ✅
The calls ✅

[lavish quail]

all raptors basically look the same at this point

[honest sparrow]

You could have made it unique and scaly

[hoary dawn]

i dont think any of the other major dino games atm have utah

[lavish quail]

you design a utah

[honest sparrow]

K

[paper oriole]

A lot of people in the isle server have drawn better utah designs

[honest sparrow]

Inb4 gusts of wind Utah

[paper oriole]

It isnt hard to be more creative and cool than literal jp raptor

[lavish quail]

its basically the logo at this point

and it looks cool af

what is the problem with it

[hoary dawn]

still a ripoff

[hasty dagger]

[paper oriole]

Cool is subjective

[honest sparrow]

Magnaraptor and hypo rex are the logo essentially but ok

[lavish quail]

it looks awesome

[hoary dawn]

you can like or dislike the design if you want, that kind of stuff is subjective, but what you cant deny is its a blatant ripoff of jp

[paper oriole]

[lavish quail]

ive never heard or played as either

[paper oriole]

They made it look even worse than legacy utah

[lavish quail]

plus you gotta enable them

[lavish quail]

how?

[honest sparrow]

Original Utah model was better

[paper oriole]

They took a mallet to its arms and i swear its even more stringy

[hoary dawn]

the run animation is a significant downgrade from legacy

[lavish quail]

legacy was a fat fuck with weird ass speeds and a dumb run animation

[lavish quail]

thats a lie

[paper oriole]

Og utah model is better than this yeah, didnt it have more unique calls too?

[honest sparrow]

It did

It managed to evoke jp vibes and sounds without just being jp raptor lmao

[hoary dawn]

evrima utah's run anim is so floaty and the tail looks like its made a jello

[paper oriole]

So the og “face if the game” had different calls and a different model huh? Interesting

[lavish quail]

sorry do you want a feathered slightly bigger and more useless utah>

[honest sparrow]

Guys adding feathers makes it absolutely worthless

[paper oriole]

I want it to not have the arms of a little kid pretending to be a dinosaur and to have a feather option that isnt sleeve feathers

[pale bloom]

[paper oriole]

Its arms are like that stupid shit children do tucking their hands to their chest like rawr xd im a dinosaur

[pale bloom]

Your hate reaches suspicious values

[lavish quail]

do you want it changed really really really bad?

[paper oriole]

My hate for jp raptor is undeniable yes

[lavish quail]

is it like a death wish to look at it

[pale bloom]

Hope you have good reasons tho

[hoary dawn]

you're kinda sussy for disliking this thing i like

[lavish quail]

do you just avoid evrima and legacy because utah is there

[paper oriole]

Not really but its just an annoying design

[pale bloom]

Alright got it

[paper oriole]

I just dont play utah unless its to fuck around and sabotage some rock/dock sitters out of boredom

[lavish quail]

thats how much you hate it?

its such a fun dino

[pale bloom]

Would you like me spitting shit torwards any herbivore design? No wait I'll just don't or I'll be attacked right on my feelings

[hoary dawn]

what

[paper oriole]

???

[hoary dawn]

herbivore

wh

[paper oriole]

Anky design is shit

[pale bloom]

And I would actually not because I like most Herbie designs

[paper oriole]

Also

[hoary dawn]

i love rhino anky

[paper oriole]

It sould look cool as some totally fictional animal but not as anky

Like it's an aintkylosaurus

Thats what it should be named

[hoary dawn]

novakylosaurus

[paper oriole]

Lmao

[hoary dawn]

problem solved

[lavish quail]

bro anky gets too much hate

[pale bloom]

But as a I said earlier for most part of the public, it's an Anky

[lavish quail]

it will be good in evrima

cause it gonna be completely unique there

[paper oriole]

It isnt an anky, it's an anky inspired animal thats still called anky

Its like if i didnt like rex arms so i gave it horse legs as its arms and still called it a rex

[lavish quail]

anky was an embarrassment i will admit that

[hoary dawn]

idc much about the name, as long as the model and anims are good and the gameplay is fun its a good animal in my book

[lavish quail]

the model for utah rn is good

so are the animations

[hoary dawn]

arguable

[paper oriole]

Its good for a jp ripoff but not for any actual dinosaur

[hoary dawn]

it being a ripoff does detract from its potential to be a cool design

[pale bloom]

Not everything has to look cool for everyone

[lavish quail]

the model is perfect for the game

[modern schooner]

I love the scratch animation, just want it to be more common

[paper oriole]

Its mostly just a disappointing design more than anything

Like they could have made their own fictional raptor twist

[lavish quail]

ikr

best one there is

[paper oriole]

But instead they decided to copy the most mainstream raptor design

[modern schooner]

It was common in legacy if I recall correctly

[lavish quail]

bro make it the same size with a better feahterless design

[paper oriole]

What

[lavish quail]

its good

thats my point

[paper oriole]

Subjective

[lavish quail]

and it will be even cooler with humans

it will look hella scary in buildings

and in first person damn

[paper oriole]

Idk about looking scary but it will definitely be a primary human threat

[hoary dawn]

it being a good design: subjective
it being a shameless ripoff: objective

[paper oriole]

Like i cant look at that thing and think “scary”

It looks like a toy

[pale bloom]

[lavish quail]

then all of them are

the game will be first person

and dark

[paper oriole]

First person and dark cant make unintimidating models intimidating

[lavish quail]

have you ever played a game and there is a person in a spot you dont expect

[pale bloom]

I'm leaving this is a lost battle 🏳️ have fun

[lavish quail]

true

same

i got stuff to do

[paper oriole]

Welp enjoy your dollar tree raptor i guess, agree to disagree

Cya

[hoary dawn]

if i were in a dark room and someone threw a rubber duck at me i would jump, dont mean the rubber duck is scary

[pale bloom]

I just enjoy any playable in this game

[paper oriole]

A 7 foot tall man in a barney suit would scare me more than isle utah lol

Same size or what ever

[hoary dawn]

new utah redesign

[paper oriole]

Yes it must be done

[urban bear]

yes

[lavish quail]

ignoring the argument about utah that lasted more than 30 minutes may i add

a bug eating theri would be awesome

[valid zephyr]

@blissful onyx I've got to say I've never been convinced by bug eating theri. The animal is just far too large to gain any real nutrients from them.

Unless the island has hyper termites or something?

[urban flax]

Yeah isn't Theri a little big to be feeding on insects ?

[valid zephyr]

I will still die on the hill that beip should have been a terrestrial insectivore.

[lavish quail]

what if it has like ark giant bees tho

cause then its very possible

i mean that looks like a bee hive with an ant eater right?

[valid zephyr]

If there are giant insects like Ark, then yeah it suddenly works.

[urban flax]

Except ant eaters are around 1% of theri's weight

[lavish quail]

there was pretty big insects in the cretaceous period right?

[urban flax]

We're not in the cretaceous period

[lavish quail]

this games lore is dumb it would work

[urban flax]

Unless you can find insects that are 200x the size of current insects you're not going to feed a theri off them

[valid zephyr]

Beip would have suited being a terrestrial insectivore so much. It's small, and so could more convincingly live off them. Big claws for tearing apart termite mounds.

[paper oriole]

Theri eats hyperendocrin termites there solved

[urban flax]

We're only getting extinct reptiles, not giant insects

[lavish quail]

oh yeah

megalania

that will be awesome

[urban flax]

It's an extinct reptile

Wait you mean mega eating bugs ?

[lavish quail]

wait when

no

mega eat meat

thats cooler

[urban flax]

Why are you mentioning megalania then ?

[paper oriole]

probably because "extinct reptiles"

[lavish quail]

this man would make bug eating possible

[urban flax]

Thankfully we're not in Ark
I don't want dragons in The Isle

[lavish quail]

ignore the modded thing its a title for a series

yeah dragons would be weird-

[urban flax]

Well I say that but I love hyper Quetz soooo...

[lavish quail]

hmmmmmmm

[paper oriole]

yeah hyper quetz is basically a wyvern... also the isle has mutated tribals who could possibly have been warped up as a side affect by all the weird science shit going on in AE's labs so extra whopper big mac termites might not look out of place as long as it isn't over the top

though who knows if thats what tribals' creation actually is

[lavish quail]

oh yeah dumb lore

the lore makes no sense

they spent 5 years building it and we basically got nothing out of it

[hoary dawn]

yet

[urban flax]

It makes more sense than The Elder Scrolls lore at least

[lavish quail]

true!

[hoary dawn]

only one that knows all the lore is dondi

[lavish quail]

dondi is a ghost

last time i heard he coded a bit of legacy left and never returned

[hoary dawn]

what

[paper oriole]

youre thinking of deathly not dondi lmao

[lavish quail]

ah

nope

[paper oriole]

he's making PoT now

[lavish quail]

wait

[paper oriole]

dondi is still working on the isle he's the creator

[lavish quail]

creator part yeah

but since when did he ever help tbh

[hoary dawn]

he's the mapmaker

[lavish quail]

dropped lore on twitter sometimes

[hoary dawn]

he

made the map

[lavish quail]

idk i dont see him a lot

[paper oriole]

he did a lot of dev streams

[hoary dawn]

every map in evrima was made by him, idk if he still does it now that jace is on the team

[lavish quail]

damn no one likes the idea of making utah bigger

[urban flax]

I'd like to see accurate Utah
But game balance wouldn't

[paper oriole]

making it bigger would make its playstyle look wonky

[lavish quail]

yeah

currently if you like it there is a 1:3 ratio of people liking to disliking that idea

beipi is gonna be cool

i hope crabs are part of its diet

that would be adorable

[blissful onyx]

Large animals eat bugs very often. While we don't have. 1 to 1 today you can think of gorillas or bears as an example. Supplementing with bugs is a great way to get proteins

[urban flax]

A bear is 1/10 of therizinosaurus weight

[paper oriole]

bears do eat bugs but not as a bulk of their diet. termites would be a nice part of theri diet but not as a staple

[blissful onyx]

Like I said there isn't a 1 to 1 example in modern animals for this

[paper oriole]

more of a supplemential snack

[urban flax]

There isn't even a 1 to 2 or a 1 to 5 example, it just can't work

[paper oriole]

there's like one bear specialized in eating bugs and it aint a very large bear

[blissful onyx]

It does say "supplemental" in the image

[paper oriole]

theri would look goot picking at a termite mount, he has a real anteater flair with that tail and those claws honestly

browsing trees and eating from termite mounts from time to time

[lavish quail]

i want it tbh

[blissful onyx]

Yeah that's what I was thinking I think that kind of fictionalizion can work well for thero

*theri

[urban flax]

I guess the best way for Theri to feed of bugs would be to eat actual trees and swallow all the bugs inside

[paper oriole]

also give theri an anteater t pose with its 3 call animation

assert dominance

[blissful onyx]

Lmao thats a fun idea

[swift dew]

4.5 ton animal eating bugs

[blissful onyx]

That's why I gave it the tongue I think it suits it super well

[lavish quail]

bugs are good protien!

[paper oriole]

4.5 ton animal snacking on bugs*

its main food source would likely still be from tree browsing

[blissful onyx]

i think its important not to underestimate just how nutrient dense bugs are as a food

[lavish quail]

it would be cool to see it like grazing

[urban flax]

4.5 TONS.

[blissful onyx]

okay?

[lavish quail]

you know not going over 20% food

[paper oriole]

termite mounds could work for animals like velo, compy, galli, etc to snack on

[urban flax]

Even 20% seems far-fetched

[swift dew]

its also important to not forget how big theri is

[paper oriole]

just sort of their as a diet bonus but not a staple for multiple animals

[blissful onyx]

yeah i was thinking it would be like from large sources of bugs like terminte mounds and high up hives

[blissful onyx]

i know how big it is, i still think its feasible its not really farfetched

[paper oriole]

it's a low effort food for it to get to so it isnt too otherworldly

[swift dew]

theri wouldn't even see them

[paper oriole]

it would be weird if it went through actual work and burned calories to get the termites

[blissful onyx]

right and with the tongue and can get alot at once

right i was thinking for mounds it could use its claws to stir up the nest and then just go to town

[paper oriole]

there's a protein meter here, while the protein requirements may be minimal for some animals it could still be beneficial as a little boost

[lavish quail]

ti would be very cool

[blissful onyx]

yeah i think it could def work as a protien boost

[barren zephyr]

hi

[paper oriole]

hi

[blissful onyx]

hi pigeon

[barren zephyr]

hello

[blissful onyx]

speically the honey and honey comb part, if theri gets into hives and eats that stuff its extremely calorie dense and thats not being thinking about if it gets into the eggs and larva part of the hive

thick feathers help protect it from stings and long claws can really tear into the hive or mound

[paper oriole]

yeah honestly just make theri some big weird bear bird that eats everything it can fit in its face, which would mostly be inverts, plants, eggs and the occasional unlucky small juvie

[blissful onyx]

i;d avoid going for juvi but i like the idea of it having some opportunistic omnivore habits

[lavish quail]

i say it would be cool as the theri's "special ability" of sorts like when it ate bugs it would gain protien and at low stam, it would drain your protien in trade for extra stam?

[paper oriole]

eating bee hives, picking at termite mounts, eating treefruit and leaves all makes sense for it especially since those calorie and protein rich supplemential sources don't require a lot of effort for it to get in to

[blissful onyx]

right and theri being as large as it is needs to eat alot and anything it can get easy is a great food source

[lavish quail]

tbh theri is a half assed animal

it kinda ate just everything

so it didnt have to do much

[paper oriole]

the bears around where i am will destroy nearly empty bird feeders for half a fistfulls worth of seeds so it aint far fetched at all

[lavish quail]

give me troodons in here

clearly possible

i mean look at this

thats perfect for jumpscare time

its perfect

spectator mode assisted here

[vale pawn]

i wanna go into those vents as compy

[lavish quail]

KINDA SUS

oh my god

im a zoomer

[vale pawn]

[lavish quail]

im not funny

oh my god

[steep warren]

DUDE YES

[solid wedge]

Bro i Love @barren zephyr gillie suit idea cause sooner or later one will be stepped on by a herbie

[paper oriole]

Brachi accidentally eats merc wearing a leaf suit

[barren zephyr]

Loool. I didn't even think of that XD

[versed ferry]

i am getting major jurassic park the game vibes

[odd sedge]

Troodon is the perfect creature for trolling mercs.
Voice mimicking, climbing through vents, seeing through the night, venom, possibly big packs
the list goes on

[barren zephyr]

Troodon is just cool

[hoary dawn]

troodon is the ultimate troll animal

[barren zephyr]

just another reason to play it

[vale pawn]

im gonna play it just for trolling with voice mimicking

[meager tiger]

Ovi's the sneaky rat then. He performs egg heists where he goes in and robs nests. I hope ovi is faster than a trex because one of my ideas is you go get a giant carnivore to chase you and lead him to a nest and while he fights, you use it as a distraction and Rob the eggs.

[hoary dawn]

i would be very surprised if ovi was slower than rex

[tawny juniper]

Considering it's supposed to steal eggs

It would get chased pretty often

I would be suprised if it wasn't faster than 75% of the roster

[solid wedge]

those dudes gave me nightmares when i were younger

[hoary dawn]

the superior raptor

[odd sedge]

Ovi should also be a good all rounder with it being able to perform a bit of parkour, being stealthy but also fast and agile. Just not bulky and strong

[ebon girder]

green is sus

[lavish quail]

@austere axle that seems like a good idea in concept but what if you are already playing a rex?

you log on and you just cant play?

it doesnt really work

and with diets herbi will be picked alot more anyway

[visual patrol]

Only having a certain amount of player slots for certain dinos would cause uproar in the community

[paper oriole]

Limiting species/ faction will usually just lead to people going to a different aerver

Also allowing people to have multiple dinos on a server is begging for toxicity

[lavish quail]

also you forget its not a rougue like game

[paper oriole]

I've heard herbi diets will be more strict than carni diets so if that is true this will probably not be the case

[barren zephyr]

that is indeed a game

I think

[austere axle]

I agree with you guys, but that would be an option, not a rule. The point is to help with overpopulation of apexes in certain immersive servers. But again, that would be something manageable and for apexes only.
@lavish quail that's the point of the other suggestions, you need to be able to manage your dinos, not have only one. On the sv I play, for eg, we can have 5 dinos but we need to change them via website. That could be a thing in-game as well.

[austere axle]

yeah, gotta wait for that to see how will it really works for the community

[paper oriole]

Apex overpopulation should be naturally controlled by making them a big challenge to grow and maintain

Not by hard limits

[barren zephyr]

I would imagine sitting at a computer for 8 hours straight would be a put off so I doubt many people would grow them

you can’t just sit in a tree and wait anymore so

[austere axle]

hmm.. so maybe that would be solved with diets only? I don't know, I'm a bit skeptical but maybe you're right

[austere axle]

2. when you select your new dino, it would be great to see the skin on adults.
3. currently, server owners develop external sites to allow players to have multiple dinosaur connecting via steam. Could it be a thing in-game?
4. what if the elder system was about really getting elder? And if to pass better genes would only be a thing if you nest? And also random, not 100% accurate to avoid dino farms haha. Elders could grow in size, let's say 3% for full extra growth time, get 3% life and weight but no damage at all. Stamina could reduce a bit for knee's issues too. This way grow afk wouldn't be a problem, because the dino won't get much stronger, just bigger and remarkable. But it would have penalties for becoming old. Skin changes would be cool too but I heard something about scars that would work perfectly.

and what about the other topics? guess I'll repost the list without number 1 cause it was clearly hated

[swift dew]

<@&401466542140817419>

it is also in #general-feedback

[barren zephyr]

Smh

[paper oriole]

Magy niche: the KOSed becomes the KOSer

[sonic cloud]

Christ the new Alberto model looks like aids in comparison to the old one

[paper oriole]

It looks like a toy

[sonic cloud]

I can understand redoing Acro because it’s model is ollld

[paper oriole]

The old one may have been very basic but it looked like an albertosaurus

[sonic cloud]

But Albertos legacy model was fine

It was one of the last additions to legacy anyway

[paper oriole]

They could have just redone it while keeping the design. Same with giga

Just updated quality, and added the scutes if they really want those

[sonic cloud]

They literally took Wwd Gorgon and made the design somehow worse then called it Alberto

[paper oriole]

New albert is one of the examples of where unique doesn't always mean good

[sonic cloud]

Plagiarism

[paper oriole]

Oh shit it really is lol

[sonic cloud]

At least the isle graduated from ripping of JP to ripping off something else

Progress?

[paper oriole]

Why cant the fictionalized redesigns just pan out like tenonto instead of being ripoffs

[sonic cloud]

It’s literally WWD gorgosaurus but on steroids

[barren zephyr]

It just really isn’t…good. they could’ve done a much better job.

it’s like they didn’t even care

[valid zephyr]

Tenoto just looks so damn good.

[paper oriole]

Albert and giga, two legacy designs with absolutely nothing wrong with them. Prime examples of “if it isn't broken don't fix it”

[barren zephyr]

Tenonto is amazing

[paper oriole]

Yeah tenonto is an example of how to fictionalize a dino properly

[barren zephyr]

The Isle is lazy. But also not

[barren zephyr]

Well, at least the new giga design is good. Although I definitely prefer the old design

[valid zephyr]

I adore the old giga model. It's really distinctive while still looking convincing as an animal.

Rather than 'hyper lite' of the new giga.

[paper oriole]

The new giga design is alright but not as good as the old one, at least imo

[barren zephyr]

Probably a crucial step in creature design is going through different versions. And also trying to stay as original as possible.

[paper oriole]

The old one was rugged and mean looking, the new one is just too idk... plain?

[barren zephyr]

The old one just felt like something created in a lab

[valid zephyr]

If they get rid of the giga sounds ima riot. Best sounds in the entire game.

[sonic cloud]

I prefer the new Giga because it doesn’t look like Giga anyway. I hate Giga so I can just play the new one and call it Carcharodontosaurus and not feel like vomiting

[barren zephyr]

The one call was probably the best call in the entire game

[valid zephyr]

Yeah giga 1 call was iconic.

[paper oriole]

I wish they'd at least give the new male giga a rougher crest and a dewlap

[barren zephyr]

Also the beard pls

[paper oriole]

Giga 3 call > rex 3 call also

[barren zephyr]

We need the giga beard

[valid zephyr]

Removing the dewlap was such a weird choice. It's one of the distinctive features of the isle giga.

[paper oriole]

Beard, dewlap, same thing

[sonic cloud]

I wish they’d remodel it further and call it either Mapu, Giga or Tyrannotitan because fuck Giga

[barren zephyr]

Giga good

[paper oriole]

The legacy isle giga's design was among the best out there

New one has weird lumps like a beetle larva

[barren zephyr]

It was intimidating

the way it walked

it’s stature

[paper oriole]

It did look intimidating, and it had personality

[barren zephyr]

Unlike legacy rex

[paper oriole]

Speaking of walks i hope herrera keeps his sassy movements

[barren zephyr]

Probably one of the most boring uninspired dinos in legacy

[paper oriole]

Legacy rex walked like i walk up the stairs when im tired

[barren zephyr]

True

Not a fan of BB on a dinosaur either

[paper oriole]

Just like “ugh uffgh hmmfgh”

[barren zephyr]

Rex had it but not anky

[paper oriole]

Idk why they made that decision honestly

[barren zephyr]

I think it was Dondis favorite so they just decided to only give rex bb

[paper oriole]

lol wouldnt be surprised

[barren zephyr]

(This did not make it overpowered at all)

[paper oriole]

Like i get that legacy bb is broken but anky is literally useless without it

[honest sparrow]

I’m fine with baby hunter herbis but why magy

[barren zephyr]

Legacy Anky was just a waste

[paper oriole]

Because magy is fueled by pure salt

[barren zephyr]

Stego was just better Anky

[honest sparrow]

Legacy stego was actually fun too, what a kicker

[barren zephyr]

it slapped everything other than apexes

it had pretty poor hp

[honest sparrow]

Slap allo packs while attempting to run them down

[barren zephyr]

Because stego being faster than Allo makes sense

[limber hull]

they need to make Anky live up to his name and be an ankle breaker

[honest sparrow]

It was? I did not know that

[barren zephyr]

It was almost as fast I believe

Stego was weirdly fast for its size

[honest sparrow]

I liked it tho

[barren zephyr]

but the isle is generally terrible with creature design, with some exceptions

most creatures are not too memorable outside of being a plain nuisance (like the carno with its infamous belching/bellowing roar)

[wicked furnace]

Can't go a day without people shitting on the perfectly fine alberto design

[wicked furnace]

[fickle hamlet]

It looks fine, like a surprisingly fast, bone-crushing tank with sharp teeth.

If they eliminated the dewlap under the neck, it wouldn't look as chonky.

[wicked furnace]

True it does look a bit weird with that dewlap but like, the head is fine it looks like an alberto. The body is a bit stocky for a tyrannosaur that's supposed to be quite fast. But all these people asking for it to be changed back to the legacy one, the devs aren't gonna listen as it's already been stated that designs won't be changed for a specific group and then piss off another group that actually liked it...

[hoary dawn]

im pretty sure most people dislike it cuz they see it as a downgrade from the legacy one

[wicked furnace]

The legacy one is cool, but it's model is outdated af and it's jaw has a literal underbite lmao

If they keep the calls and skin pattern for evrima it would make up for the design we have right now

[hoary dawn]

yea, and so when people who see this new one that looks very different they speak up about it

instead of touching up the old model people liked they gave it a complete redesign

not a bad thing, but still

i myself dont care for alberto either way

but i can understand the people who are upset

[warm flame]

I think that the alberto model looks weird to people because of the camera angle, angles can change a lot on some dinosaurs

[wicked furnace]

Yeah i understand why people dislike it, but at the same time, i myself actually like it. Theres a few other people that like it too so if they change it it's gonna annoy us too.

[wicked furnace]

Yeah

That might be it.

[warm flame]

the albertos design just screams "stay away from me I will eat you" and I love it for that

[wicked furnace]

Yeah one of the things i like about it too

[paper oriole]

If flesh grazing gets in it shouldnt be for every predator

Only ones specialized in hunting sauropods at most

[urban flax]

Devs actually asked the community who likes and who dislikes the new alberto model with reactions in phase-two
A majority of people reacted positively

[hoary dawn]

i wish they'd do stuff like that more

[last lily]

If you like bobble head dinosaurs with cartoony proportions sure, right on..

[warm flame]

from what punch said, the head is smaller than shown in the pictures, some dinosaurs are angle sensitive, like spinosaurus for example, the tail looks short from most angles but from the side it's incredibly long

[last lily]

The head is ironically one of the few things I like about the new alberto(design wise). just change the eyes SLIGHTLY and it's good.. the issues I have with it are mainly the body..the neck isn't helping in making the head look big though.
Would be nice to have another picture of it.

[warm flame]

the necks issue is likely sourcing from the T-Pose, it'll likely be in a more bird like posture when it's animated, and what's wrong with the eyes?

[last lily]

Just a tad smaller and rounder.. Basically that's it, and even then it's nothing much, or just move them up slightly so they fit into the skull better. Help make it look more intimidating and also somewhat correct.. I think the back of the neck is the main issue, IF the lower neck(bottom/throat) is going to be adjustable like Sucho's model, so they can mess with it in animations.

I can make a quick shitty sketch to show what I mean

[warm flame]

I think the eye is fine, I think the entire thing is, my only issue is the hips pop out a bit much

also I just noticed, I think that albertosaurus has lips

[last lily]

Please god give it lips..

[warm flame]

oh I see what you mean by the eyes now

how they're kind of tilted?

[last lily]

And a little too centered in the sockets when they should be a little upwards(within the circular part of the sockets)

[warm flame]

I think the placement is fine but now that you've pointed out the eye I do think it's a bit too tilted and should be more straight with the head, but if they rotate it they'll probably have to rise it some anyways

[last lily]

That's how the eyes look to me on the current Alberto concept

Phone sucks

[warm flame]

oh I see you mean that the eye is too far back?

or not far enough back

[last lily]

Something like this

Moved upwards

[warm flame]

I just hope we get to see better angles of the model soon

[last lily]

Maybe one day

[pulsar lake]

I has lips at least.

[last lily]

I'd be concerned if you didn't have lips.

[pulsar lake]

Oof

I mean

It has lips

Lmfao

[paper oriole]

Hispy

Hispy can join the ranks among utha, tento, denio and petra

[valid zephyr]

hispy is gold. that's what i'm using from now on.

[valid zephyr]

you forgot canro.

[paper oriole]

I've never seen canro, but he is welcome in the squad

[vale pawn]

rx

[hoary dawn]

canor

[safe galleon]

doesn't pachy like, have really fucking weird teeth

[icy lion]

weird enough that it was theorized they were omnivores, i believe

[vale pawn]

hypisilodon

[paper oriole]

Pachy teeth look like unserrated little shark teeth

Or like iguana teeth

[still raptor]

All animals should be able to preform a bite

Some weaker than others

[paper oriole]

He'll slice ya

Pachy should have a decent bite, ceratopsian bites should be pretty painful as well

[pulsar lake]

it still was able to somekind of chew

unlike iguanas.

Because of its skull bones and how articulated they were.

[hoary dawn]

i mean sure pachy could have a decent bite, but should it from a gameplay perspective

why would you use a low damage possibly low bleed dealing attack when you can fracture bones with a mouse hold/click

[modest wind]

well is might not be worth biting with a pachy but you should still have an option to bite

[hoary dawn]

idk, i think all the attacks for all animals should have at least some practical use

pachy bite wouldn't have much outside of maybe bleed

which would just make pachies able to track down things it bites

[paper oriole]

assuming its fracture dealing attack swill cost stam, biting could be used to deal with small dinos not worth wasting stam on

its teeth should def apply some bleed tho

[tidal frigate]

@urban bear I want that skin but are you talking about the Utah or something else

[last lily]

Why not just have an attack that has it swing its head down or diagonally , instead of a bite? More damage, and can be comboed with the charge and big slam

[urban bear]

utah

[tidal frigate]

Ok it’s not jp but I like the skin

[urban bear]

it is jp

[paper oriole]

It's jp3

[tawny juniper]

no matter how blunt the teeth are

Bites should hurt, unless its from the little guys

[paper oriole]

Even stego has a bite

And he doesnt really have teeth in the exposed part of his mouth

[tawny juniper]

I'd assume most ceratopsian bites would be similar to getting a car door slammed on you

[paper oriole]

Pachy has those little daggers, he should have a bite that deals some bleed

Ceratopsian bite would be like a snapping turtle on steroids

https://tenor.com/view/alligator-turtle-wild-hungry-gif-12352362

A utah's head

[barren zephyr]

Ceratopsian bites should do a fuck ton of fracture to smalls

[paper oriole]

Definitely

And some limb/tail fractures to mids and larges

Not that a trike would have much reason to bite something its size

But itd still be there

[barren zephyr]

Just hoping that trike is actually a monster this time around instead of apex food

[paper oriole]

Yeah it got shafted in legacy same with para

[barren zephyr]

It’s amazing how bad para is in legacy

[paper oriole]

Its a guaranteed 1v1 kill to any giga with 2 brain cells to rub together in legacy

Para is also giga bait

[barren zephyr]

Para is just everything food

[paper oriole]

Camara is another guaranteed kill for giga in a 1v1 fight

[barren zephyr]

Para should also get decent fractures, judging from its size

para is actually ginormous

[paper oriole]

Hadros in general should be top tier CCers and tramplers and have decent health pools

Not much for actual offensive combat though

But the kind of “get out of my way” style

[barren zephyr]

Give magy the best fracture in game with mega jet packs and photon beams of death

[paper oriole]

Give magy the ability to instantly transform itself in to a gorepile on command

[barren zephyr]

please

just delete it

if they delete it, they could work on cera faster

[paper oriole]

Amarga, shuno or baja... the small sauropods that could have been

[barren zephyr]

and cera is much cooler than bottom tier dwarf sauropod

[paper oriole]

Cerato was one of my more played dinos in legacy despite how mediocre it was then

Its just a good dino

[barren zephyr]

and unfortunately it’s still mediocre, at least he has personality

[paper oriole]

Yeah hopefully in ev hes great for his tier and not utah bait or something

[barren zephyr]

evrima will hopefully make cerato a big brawler bully that picks on carnos and tenos

I feel like cera should one shot utah in the head

[paper oriole]

Cerato should have thr upper hand on carno since its a slower defensive guy

Cera should grab utah by the head and thrash it into the ground and objects like that one monitor vs rat video

[barren zephyr]

yes

please

I don’t see how magy is going to survive that

[paper oriole]

Just thrash utah until it breaks in half

[barren zephyr]

“But guys! Osteoderms!”

Cera also seems semi aquatic in some ways, like how it was out swimming an Allo, so im guessing it’s going to have a fast swim speed like tenonto

[paper oriole]

Magy will have a ‘beg for mercy’ ability with sad piano music that will make players feel bad so they spare its worthless life

[barren zephyr]

Cera will not spare it because funny diets

[paper oriole]

Cera puts magy out of its misery

[barren zephyr]

Magy doesn’t deserve to be ceras rival

Cera gun

[paper oriole]

Cerato ritual execution on magy

[barren zephyr]

[barren zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/sidious-there-is-no-mercy-star-wars-clone-wars-darth-sidious-chancellor-palpatine-there-is-no-mercy-gif-22048839

I mean they could always upsize Magy

Make it a little bit bigger than its irl counterpart

[manic flint]

Just like
Put in amarga
Or salta
If you want to upsize