proto, minmi, homalo, dryo.
#general-feedback-discussion
paper oriole
i think its stupid af for a 10lb animal to aggro on something thats like 70lb that has venom, razor claws and teeth
vale pawn
paper oriole
literally free food
tall oasis
i think its stupid af for a 10lb animal to aggro on something thats like 70lb th...
Kiwi bird feet
Four toes (other ratites have only two or three) on each thick foot allow the flightless bird to pad silently through the forest in search of food. Despite its small size and awkward appearance, the kiwi can outrun a human and is quite wary.
this is from google
paper oriole
actually troodon might even be 100lb
tall oasis
it is basically silent in the forest
paper oriole
stop using the kick argument a 10lb animal isnt going to deter a 100lb animal with a kick
it should run away
wise tinsel
i could kill a kiwi with my dick
paper oriole
not be aggro
tall oasis
they (again) have some of the strongest bird feet of all time
wise tinsel
no they dont
tall oasis
and they go about 40mph
paper oriole
yeah but they are 10 pounds
vale pawn
what about ostriches
wise tinsel
wow such speed
paper oriole
they should run
tall oasis
what about ostriches
ostrich is dum
vale pawn
and cassowarys
wise tinsel
i could break its neck in my ass
vast wolf
casssowary chad.
tall oasis
i could break its neck in my ass
vale pawn
chaddowary
vast wolf
i could break its neck in my ass
sure thats what you intended to say?
tall oasis
the kiwi can also just return to it's burrow
paper oriole
are they just one of the strongest kickers comparative to their size
vast wolf
the kiwi can also just return to it's burrow
kiwis actively seeking out other burrowers for added protection.
tall oasis
are they just one of the strongest kickers comparative to their size
yes..........
shoot
dang
vast wolf
it would probably fuck up a compy.
vast wolf
otherwise a 1 bite.
icy lion
and they go about 40mph
they absolutely do not
tall oasis
baba utah, troodon
icy lion
from what i can find most estimates put them at 12mph
tall oasis
oh shit
paper oriole
how heavy are the isle's juvie utahs
icy lion
youre thinking of ostriches
valid elk
Hey Super, thoughts on my...feedback?
valid elk
Or...suggestion, I guess
vast wolf
how heavy are the isle's juvie utahs
cant remember off the top of my head. think 8-25 kilos for a fresh spawn. something in that range.
tall oasis
it may not be 40mph butttt... still fast
icy lion
lemme read it
12mph isnt very fast
its 19kmh
which is considerably slower than stego
tall oasis
it said it was faster than a hooman
tall oasis
i o longer have hope for kiwi 
icy lion
i dont think it was ever really confirmed that magy was fast
paper oriole
i mean if he's like a rare spawn in a biome he could work
but not as a consistent source
icy lion
but i do like the idea of a more spiky, titanosaur-like magy
paper oriole
more of an easter egg type thing
wise tinsel
a compy would whole ass swallow it
icy lion
that said i highly doubt any model changes would happen
paper oriole
if he's only 12mph he's like a worse taco lol
valid elk
I remember Kissen wanted it to be fast for whatever reason...
icy lion
fast can be proportional, or fast for a sauropod
like if youre comparing tortoises, one of them is still the fastest, right?
tall oasis
well then...
valid elk
True.
tall oasis
then they are a good source of fud for babas and small carnis
paper oriole
free food is unnecessary
vale pawn
beelzebufo 
tall oasis
free food is unnecessary
burrow?
paper oriole
if its a rare thing and not a consistent spawn it could be a cute shoutout to kiwi birds
tall oasis
if its a rare thing and not a consistent spawn it could be a cute shoutout to ki...
YES PERFECT
wise tinsel
i guess
paper oriole
you or somebody else already pointed out anything in that size range can just break into the burrow and kill it
wise tinsel
but even then dimetrodon is better
paper oriole
dimetrodon is shit
wise tinsel
nah
paper oriole
yes
wise tinsel
big hed ;D
paper oriole
erythrosuchus puts dimetrodon's head to shame
tall oasis
you or somebody else already pointed out anything in that size range can just br...
the burrow entrances are tiny, not even a troodon could get in, and maybe even a baba utah, who knows.
tall oasis
they are tunnles
paper oriole
if nothing but compy sized can fit in the burrow it could work, if they can be invaded by anything bigger theyre basically just weaker tacos lol
wise tinsel
a compy could just crush it
tall oasis
a compy could just crush it
u underestimate them, they may not be gods, but the kick is strong enough to snap the very tiny bones of compy. Compy is smaller
icy lion
compy is so tiny
tall oasis
yee
vale pawn
i think a compy and kiwi could be even, maybe the compy leans more towards winning but still kind of even
tall oasis
i think a compy and kiwi could be even, maybe the compy leans more towards winni...
kiwi has a kick that will snap it's neck, did i not mention it has claws?
limber hull
kiwi birds for carnivores, kiwi fruit for herbivores
tall oasis
lol yes
vale pawn
yea but if compy gets around it and get a bite it could win
tall oasis
yea but if compy gets around it and get a bite it could win
compy is also slower
not by much but still
limber hull
confusion for omnivores
paper oriole
AFKpex deinos deserve a cap at 5 tons not 7 lol
wise tinsel
kiwi weight as much as my hand...
tall oasis
kiwi weight as much as my hand...
u must have weak hands 
wise tinsel
imma yeet em
tall oasis
vale pawn
compy is also slower
have you seen small animals fighting, there so quick
vale pawn
he really just took a pic of his hand, dominance asserted
tall oasis
yes that is true
it was pretty quick
kiwi can DESTROY compy (unless it is in a pack)
bilbo
bibo
birbo
i worship kiwi birbs
vale pawn
kiwi
tall oasis
best birb
vale pawn
sorry i already got a bird cult going on
tall oasis
sorry i already got a bird cult going on
a pigeon one perhaps...?
vale pawn
yea
paper oriole
Upvoting your own suggestion 
hoary dawn
they have the right to wait for modding
nova anchor
the isle isn't a dinosaur chatroom
hoary dawn
however long it takes for modding to bring it back
fluid venture
the isle isn't a dinosaur chatroom
not an argument
fluid venture
when people want to chat they should have a right for that
if they dont want to they can switch server where it is disabled
it's not that hard
nova anchor
the game doesn't have a chat, therefore there is no right to chat in game
hoary dawn
if people want to chat they should use discord, or one of the thousands of other ways to communicate online
nova anchor
besides the local species chat
fluid venture
lol yea make it more complicated
honest sparrow
It isn’t coming back
hoary dawn
lol yea make it more complicated
opening discord is not complicated
fluid venture
as I said if people dont want to chat they can play on server without chat but let people who actually wants a chat chatting
nova anchor
the thing about global is it encourages people to sit at a lake for two hours and type more than actually playing the game - it's part of what made legacy so bad and it's good that it will not be making a return.
honest sparrow
If you want interaction you seek out interaction, you should not be getting buddy buddy with the Rex halfway across the map as a Dryo
hoary dawn
global chat adds nothing to the game
nova anchor
the isle is a survival horror game, removing aspects such as global which subtract from that is a good step towards ensuring the longevity of the game
fluid venture
as I said if people dont want to chat they can play on server without chat but l...
I still stay on this argument
barren zephyr
I mean. I don’t think global is necessarily a horrible thing. it just shouldn’t be allowed on official. at all.
fluid venture
idc what you guys think about global chat.. I'm not saying it should be back for every server.. but give it back to the people who actually wants it.
hoary dawn
na
nova anchor
It doesn't have to do with whether you want to chat or not
it has to do with the fact that it will have the "legacy effect" on evrima
fluid venture
na
why not? what should it change for your experience if on another server u aren't playing on at all had global chat enabled?
hoary dawn
not to mention how abuseable it is
being able to instantly communicate with anyone in the server in any part of the map in a pvp survival game is a no no
honest sparrow
Half of the time those servers who would like global chat have discords for communication regardless
nova anchor
not to mention the game is supposed to be taking a horror approach too
having someone in chat going "U for Utha eggo uwu!!!" detracts from that greatly
forcing people to play the game instead of using it as a dinosaur chatroom is a good thing, trust me
fluid venture
idc what you personally think about global chat. as I said u dont have to play on servers with global but ya all aren't answering my questions xD
hoary dawn
and it completely invalidates the merc's eventual walkie talkie mechanics
nova anchor
it has nothing to do with wanting to play on servers with global or not
like I said before
it has to do with ensuring the longevity of the game
honest sparrow
People have the tools to communicate regardless
nova anchor
if it devolves into a dino chatroom like legacy did the game will die in a year
fluid venture
it has to do with ensuring the longevity of the game
no.. because if the devs would give server owners right the isle would be much more open for a bigger playerbase
nova anchor
honest sparrow
The devs are giving them tools, it’s just not integrated into the game for you to be able to communicate across the map with everyone
hoary dawn
too many people got caught up in the chatroom days of legacy and now they think it should be a core part of the game even when it detracts from the intended gameplay in many ways and adds nothing at all to compensate
fluid venture
if it devolves into a dino chatroom like legacy did the game will die in a year
if people think servers with global is boring.. just switch the server
nova anchor
oh my god
it has nothing to do with wanting to play on servers with global or not
like I stated multiple times before
fluid venture
yea imo your argument is stupid
honest sparrow
And you have the tools to do it regardless
honest sparrow
There is no point in having it as an option when all the tools are there, it’s just not conveniently located in game
hoary dawn
yea imo your argument is stupid
can you name one good thing global adds to the gameplay
fluid venture
social interaction
barren zephyr
you can talk to people :)))))
hoary dawn
you can do that by moving around the map and meeting your own species
fluid venture
yea after running around 5 years to meet someone
hoary dawn
the only social interaction global provides is sitting in one spot and talking to people across the map, which does not contribute to gameplay at all
honest sparrow
Lmao
hoary dawn
yea after running around 5 years to meet someone
you have to play the game to play the game
barren zephyr
fluid venture
the only social interaction global provides is sitting in one spot and talking t...
can't agree tho because in legacy I've been always moving and using the global chat
honest sparrow
<:how:786242303571918858>
Kill
fluid venture
it is possible
honest sparrow
@hoary dawn
hoary dawn
can't agree tho because in legacy I've been always moving and using the global c...
yea but that is not what most people used it for in legacy, and not what they would use it for in evrima
real bison
yall still get the ptera bug where you cant fly still ?
hoary dawn
same
honest sparrow
Lmao imagine getting hit and not dying instantly or getting away
hoary dawn
i will admit ptera no fly bug has resulted in some extremely intense jukes for me
cant wait for fractures to make it real
barren zephyr
Beasts of
feral solstice
9500 Path of Isle
odd sedge
I know I may be a little bit late but we don't need global chat back
- Keeps trolls from using slurs in global chat, since you can just walk away if it's happening in local.
- Rulebreak reporting has always worked over Discord since legacy. And there is a button to get to the servers Discord.
- Events can work via the broadcast function and, you guessed it, discord.
- Nesting would work via a different menu a lot better, since you could see all eggs available, species, group size, etc.
- No more locations can be leaked by salty players that got killed and want to ruin someone else's experience
- Gives the game a more realistic approach
- Actually makes people put effort into calls and body language if they are part of a herd, for example Dryos throwing tantrums to warn the bigger animals of threats instead of giving the carnivores position away.
paper oriole
i cant really see shant swiping with its tail
paper oriole
yeah itd be cool if he got some unique bonuses, maybe that would make him more appealing to nesting hadro herds
vale pawn
i wish number 7 would be used more, people just dont listen to my 4 calls
barren zephyr
Humans are confirmed! We even have an image of their model.
They might have a female one tho.
Wait, you were asking about playable humans. Those are confirmed too!
finite frost
Is this the questions area?
hoary dawn
Is this the questions area?
#401464048610312195 is normally where people ask questions
finite frost
Alright thanks@hoary dawn
hoary dawn
np
lone kite
@random hazel its called carnivorous grazeing
paper oriole
Why tf should troodons straight up have conversations with humans
digital belfry
xD
barren zephyr
In fairness, Troodons do like like they'd say the n-word.
safe galleon
What
austere slate
@lapis tree yo you have been typing for a whole hour what are you up to?
meager tiger
If anything a troodon could have like upto 5 basic words/phrases like a parrot. "hello" "very nice" "uh oh" "Whose there"...etc
that way its not a full blown convo
but a dumb human could fall for it
bold palm
Add AI to swamps please, wth, i died of no food looking for any sign of fish or ai, nothing, all over the swamps, they are death trap.
digital belfry
i would understand if troodon could make a sound similar to a human moan in pain or something but speaking? thats a lot more complicated... even most parrots cant speak and if you want to teach them how to speak you need to build a very good relationship with them and train them day in and day out
digital belfry
they actually do all kind of sounds ^^
meager tiger
Perhaps. But don't you think a deep low groan is harder than a hello for a higher pitched squawker
digital belfry
you probably right with the pitch but forming a word is still a lot harder than just making a simple sound. even if they could say hello it wouldnt even sound close to a human talking
random hazel
<@!258702162131943424> its called carnivorous grazeing
yeah 
lapis tree
<@702381767948238878> yo you have been typing for a whole hour what are you up t...
I haven’t typed much, I’ve just been distracted a lot lol
austere slate
oh lol
paper oriole
It's too late they already spent the money on magy we are getting the cannon fodder sauropod
F for Baja, what could and should have been
Upvoting your own suggestion twice
zinc rivet
@radiant dagger Bajadasaurus is not "similar size" to Magyaroaurus, it's a relatively small Sauropod yes but it's fucking massive compared to Magy also we only know two bones from Bajada while we have the entire upper body of Amargasaurus, we wouldn't know what to make Bajada look like if we didn't have Amarga making Amarga the better animal smh
radiant dagger
<@!167822112961200128> Bajadasaurus is not "similar size" to Magyaroaurus, it's ...
You suggest to add amargasaurus?
It's a good idea
zinc rivet
I'd rather Amarga than Bajada personally
only thing I'm saying tho is it's not good to use Amarga/Bajada as a suggestion to replace Magyarosaurus because they are not comparable in size
radiant dagger
only thing I'm saying tho is it's not good to use Amarga/Bajada as a suggestion ...
Sure but it's a medium size erbivore can becone a prey for Carno cerato and other medium big predator
zinc rivet
LMAO no
Carnotaurus and Ceratosaurus are NOT touching an Amargasaurus or Bajadasaurus
they will die
even large fucks like Acrocanthosaurus, Giganotosaurus, and honestly even Tyrannosaurus are at allot of risk fighting those guys head on
they'd need an ambush from behind and to do enough damage before it turns around
don't underestimate those sharp neck spines, they are at perfect height for piercing through an attacker's entire body killing it instantly, and they were keratin reinforced making them longer, sharper, and stronger than the bones may appear
Amargasaurs are extremely well defended, they just need to keep facing their spines towards their opponent
and a herd of them? Basically untouchable
perfect height for going straight through a Rex's lungs and heart
radiant dagger
zinc rivet
that is incredibly inaccurate
those are not to scale at all
Dilophosaurus is not the size of Bajada or Carnotaurus lmao
I'd love an Amargasaur in The Isle, if they add it then it should be able to contest with the apexes
zinc rivet
that's a better scale though the Bajadasaurus appears to be on the smaller end
but regardless, that Carnotaurus is honestly no real threat to the Bajada
Carnotaurus is designed to run down smaller weaker prey like ornithopods
it's not a brawler
Bajada's neck spines are literally longer than Carno's body is tall
one mistake and that Carnotaurus is getting skewered like a kebab
radiant dagger
🤣🤣🤣 i see the Square 3 Meter tall Carno when run less 2.5 ?but as dimension can Hunt a Bajada normally ther's 3 adult Carno herd
zinc rivet
I'm sorry but i cant understand what you are trying to say
if you're trying to say Carnotaurus normally live in family of three
we can not know that, we only have one Carnotaurus specimen preserved, and we can not infer such family behavior from that
and three Carnotaurus i guess could threaten a Bajadasaurus? But their jaws would struggle against it's hide, they are not built for tackling on that sort of prey at all
radiant dagger
Yes... Normally in the isle we found 3 adult carno go to hunt together... I think 3 Carno can kill a Badaja
zinc rivet
I can see them potentially doing it
but it'd be allot of effort, potentially more than it's worth
radiant dagger
Because the Carno it' s agile predator badaja i think could be less fast as a Stego
zinc rivet
they'd have to hit-and-run to keep it bleeding, one mistake and they die, Carnotaurus is not good for baiting attacks
Carnotaurus is not agile. It is fast, but not agile. It is very poor at turning while running, it's designed to run in fairly straight lines
If it runs too close to the spines it can not turn and dodge, it will be stuck skidding and have no momentum to run away
giving the Amargasaur the perfect opportunity to charge and skewer it
radiant dagger
Yes Is not agile but more than Bajada...
Onestly i think it's Will be a good species Bajada/Amarga if they decide to add
barren zephyr
btw keep in mind the neck of bajadasaurus is not its only weapon
it has a tail to whip things with, its a diplodocoid after all
zinc rivet
Dicraeosaur tails aren't really preserved
no Amargasaur tail is preserved
so we can't exactly know if they had whiptails such as that
but you can give it to them still and it won't be considered wrong
could even spike it up like in here making it even more of a weapon
(this is the BEST and most accurate Amargasaurus model btw don't @ me)
so beautiful 😻
velvet sundial
@frigid storm an in game map would be too easy. Checking the map in a browser with coordinates is perfect as it makes you vulnerable for a bit of time
zinc rivet
or just learn the map and make use of landmarks, i find that fun
radiant dagger
could even spike it up like in here making it even more of a weapon
Wonderful
frigid storm
*or just learn the map and make use of landmarks, i find that fun*
fun, and I agree that learning the map will be a natural outcome either way, and player will rely on it less and less. However, the very fact that people use out-of-game map tools is pointing towards the idea that there is a need for one. I don't really see how an in game map is much easier than a browser one, I can do it pretty much just as fast, provided I already have it searched up, and it's not like you're checking your map when you're unsafe regardless
my point is- players WILL have access to a map- why make it so that other people have to do what your game should be doing, anyway?
all in all i understand the pros and cons of having an in game map, but think that it's all made irrelevant by the fact that out-of-game map tools exist and are updated regularly. There are ways to show the player where they are without doing it in an immersion-breaking way. The most simple way I could think about it is a zoom out feature- where the camera scopes out quickly to a high, over the entire map view, zooming from your location. While it wouldn't break immersion like manually inputting your latitude and longitude as a dinosaur, it would give a sense of where you are without feeling too wild. I don't know the right answer, but clearly it's a need to be a adressed
haughty forge
I... kinda agree with that, it is odd to not put a map ingame... but the coordonate as dino and that you can copy past.
If they really did not want people to use one for immersion, then you should have absolutly no way to tell where you are but the visual only to know where you are no?
(I am not for or against it thought just questionning)
oak tapir
Ok
tall oasis
keep up the work!
flat crypt
I... kinda agree with that, it is odd to not put a map ingame... but the coordon...
Yeah, it's very unusual for open-world games to not have maps. Even if they didn't show where your location is on the map explicitly (getting you to figure it out yourself from coordinates) I think it'd be handy to see the layout. In particular with a map like this one which currently is frankly, a pretty terrible map to have if you don't have an in-game map to look at
If you're not going to offer players an in-game map to use, they should be able to figure out their location through landmarks they're at/can see, regardless of where they are on the map. This is what made V3 and Thenyaw shine imo. Once you sort of learnt the lay of the land, you could figure out where you are from just about anywhere
You just absolutely can't do that in the current map. There are landmarks sure, but there's only a few currently and they're only really visible either if you're actually there, or from specific locations. If they're not going to give players an in-game map, they need to really step up and make the map more user-friendly to play on
the current map is pretty sure, but it fails in actual level design
zinc rivet
@tidal fjord they've already got plans for cannibalism w/ the diet system which is currently being worked on. Deinosuchus is one of the few animals who can cannibalize but most won't benefit from it
tidal fjord
I know, I'm suggesting how it should work.
brittle barn
The problem i have with getting people into the game is finding each other. A lot of my friends get frustrated trying to find each other on the map to group and we spend 20 minutes trying to find each other cause they don't know the map. They get annoyed that we can't group and dont want to play
zinc rivet
i don't think it's that hard tbh
it's a hell of a lot easier than it was on Legacy's maps at least
brittle barn
its not hard after you know some key areas but when you trying to move somewhere and then get chased it messes up.
they haven't played enough for me to be like go to shallows
zinc rivet
well yea but that's kinda normal
tidal fjord
You can use ur coords
tidal fjord
There's some online maps that u can just plug ur coords into if you don't know how to use ur sniffer effectively
brittle barn
yeah im the one usually using the map saying run this way
but that is their complaint that they hate how long it takes to group, i know nesting will make this a little easier
tidal fjord
Tbf I've never had the problem as I usually solo until I come across some randoms.
But it shouldn't be too easy either
Ur problem is that u have friends
Unfriend and ur problem solved.
brittle barn
yeah its a im trying to get people into playing and they get frustrated as we try moving to coords then we spend 20 minutes doing this and then someone gets picked and have to respawn somewhere else, it doesn't make fun gameplay for new players wanting to learn together. while legacy allows you to group miles apart helps find each other
i mean the ppl i met in game and know the landmarks its easy to group cause im like where ya at and they say X or Y and i run there then we 1 call to find and its done inless then 5 mins
upper summit
It doesn't have to be a legacy skin tbh I'd just like to see some certain customization patterns that you have to grind for.
brittle barn
also the having in game map would make it little easier
tidal fjord
Ewww
No
I love the fact we don't have a map
Gets u to learn the map, only the humans and maybe tribals should have access to ingame maps
upper summit
lol so it's fine for dinosaurs to bring up a computer screen telling them their literal health report and all of their stats
brittle barn
not all players are able to learn maps and geography well it literally won't hinder your experience by not using it but it allows a bit easier entry for others to play
tidal fjord
I mean think of it as a sense of self awareness
safe galleon
I mean after just a short time of playing you learn the map very easily
big landmarks and rivers and easy to use as directions
tidal fjord
Also it's the fun of the game... get lost occasionally and find ur way back as opposed to going from point to point even when being clueless
swift dew
@tidal fjord you always have the option, its just that option gives you food, but bad side effects. if your starving, i would rather take life, but get sick, than to die.
tidal fjord
Well if ur starving, adding an adverse side effect would amount to you staying starving as the side affect could lead to you dying in a fight... as u know, where there is a body, there's a pack of utahs/Carnos running towards it.
brittle barn
I mean after just a short time of playing you learn the map very easily
right i agree but when your first just learning how to move grow and eat and stuff your not really learning landmarks when your trying to learn base mechanics of game and trying to play with people who would show you
swift dew
Well if ur starving, adding an adverse side effect would amount to you staying s...
the game is supposed to be harsh, if you starving, it should keep that harshness
safe galleon
yeah it all comes with time, like in any game
brittle barn
and rivers are super dangerous atm with high deino pops
but a map even if you have to run around to un fog of war it would help help a little bit and make the barrier of entry for new players
tidal fjord
Well I disagree, I think it should be harsh to a point... the not being able to eat ur own kind idea is to prevent KOSing within the same species... also I think if harsh is what u like then my idea is quite harsh, let's say a hungry pack of ur own species comes across you, they have no reason to play around with u, they'll either leave u, or hunt and eat ya.
Also if your being chased by a different species, it makes life easier being able to kill one of them as if the rest of their pack is hungry enough, they'll stop and eat their dead pack member instead of just chasing you to the end if the earth.
feral solstice
@zenith scroll pretty sure that’s what the current roadmap is pushing for, yeah. 
jade schooner
I don't understand why people always bring up "stop adding useless dinos" when nothing has been really added. Concept art is another part of development that doesn't affect the implementation. (unless you consider deino and ptera useless)
The team is working on the issues. And every update comes, new bug comes. Sometimes it seems fixed by QA branch, new stuff appear once it's deployed to the public.
The team is working on fixing stuff. We don't have many programmers, so while they're working on fixing the issues, they're also working in the implementation of next patches, mechanics and updates.
brittle barn
Pacy will be nice addition to add another smaller herbi for the smaller carnivores to go after
fading shadow
I don't understand why people always bring up "stop adding useless dinos" when n...
Yeah you can’t add useless dinos if you just don’t add anything
valid elk
Now that it's been a day, how does everyone feel about my Magy suggestion?
honest sparrow
completely and utterly indifferent
swift dew
Now that it's been a day, how does everyone feel about my Magy suggestion?
I think people are feeling good about it, so good infact, that there is 2 types of checkmarks
vale pawn
Man so good, if only we had a third one
barren zephyr
hoary dawn
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urban flax
@hoary dawn @quiet estuary It's too late now. You can't bring back something that has been deleted.
quiet estuary
It isnt deleted
Its been archived
Punch has already said that he can be dmed to get quotes
urban flax
Oh alright
hoary dawn
which seems like a way more inconvinient process than just deleting the pins and reopening the channel
silver zephyr
hoary dawn
if they replace feedback 
honest sparrow
death
safe galleon
save them
bold palm
I approve of the addition of all dinos, more the better. 😉
hoary dawn
cool
ivory mica
I'm always lagging near waterfalls as ptera. So i think sounds is not the only problem near waterfalls.
upper summit
why are people disagreeing with eyes
fighting is literally the only thing u can do in evrima
so yes grow all is a must
crude girder
Fighting is the only thing you can do right now sure
hoary dawn
tailoring the game for unofficial servers that dont follow the intended gameplay loop just isn't as important rn as actually making and implementing said gameplay loop
crude girder
but that sounds more like adding other systems is more important than letting people deathmatch
hoary dawn
in the next couple updates alone there will be a lot more to do than just fighting
crude girder
Adding Diets and Nesting is far more important than a button that lets you fight quicker, one of them adds actual gameplay, the other just lets you skip what little gameplay is present in the growth system
quiet estuary
so yes grow all is a must
I would prefer them just to add sandbox
gritty helm
@lapis tree I'm aware diets are a thing and that they're meant to promote activity (assuming that's why you reacted with that) but, as far as we're aware diets will mainly have an effect on growth times more than anything. my suggestion is meant to be separate from that and actually have an effect on the pvp aspect of the game in a not super severe manner should someone choose to afk grow for whatever reason
hoary dawn
people that dont follow their diets will be weaker
gritty helm
must've missed that statement lol
valid elk
I think people are feeling good about it, so good infact, that there is 2 types ...
Haha! I love it.
past dune
guys, thoughts on plants that can help with bone recovery?
paper oriole
herbs and mineral springs to help with different sort of ailments could be cool
though it would also probably end up depending on if you're lucky enough to be near one of these medicinal herbs when your leg gets busted lol
quiet estuary
Would be interesting as a form of adding omnivory to all animals where certian creatures can eat things like grasses or these plants to aid with status effects
Like how wolves or cats eat grass when having stomach issues
valid elk
I think it'd work for Tribals, not so much for dinosaurs.
Remember, animals usually just rest and lick their wounds, Humans and...all Hominids really just patch ourselves up and keep going
paper oriole
maybe the herbs could be little additionss for herbi diets that makes them passively heal certain injuries faster while the buff lasts and also usable by tribals
like plants outside of diets that any herbi can get perks from. fruits, medicinal herbs and some succulents
quiet estuary
Aloe Vera is a confirmed plant right?
If so its known for aiding digestion so that can be a passive buff of sorts
paper oriole
it also helps with burns and other skin problems so mercs and tribals could use it
quiet estuary
Eat aloe vera -> next group of foods you eat fills you up more or something
Yes that too
frigid storm
guys, thoughts on plants that can help with bone recovery?
if this was added, i'd be okay with 15 minute heals from fractures.
oblique crown
Hm
hoary dawn
oblique crown
Time to break this silence
paper oriole
hey cmon man i was sleeping in here
oblique crown
Sleep is for the dead
paper oriole
):
edgy hamlet
I liked the silence
honest sparrow
I cannot use my brain to navigate
limber hull
the counterplay to the deino is knowing if a water is deino infested lmao
paper oriole
yes you are right i forgot the isle playerbase does not have time to think, we should consider this, my apologies
limber hull
if you are on land, far from water, you immediately counter the grapple
barren zephyr
@past dune its a certain species of the family fabaceae
paper oriole
deinos wont be near as much of a problem as they are now when the map, roster and choice of water sources is larger
barren zephyr
as a family, fabaceae is very big
ranging from beans and peas to lupins and even trees like wisterias.
paper oriole
also im pretty sure water ripples when deinos are near the surface so just haul ass lol. a struggle system might not be bad but honestly it isnt needed but that's just my opinion
honest sparrow
Currently you do struggle that drains a deinos stam by default
It’s barely noticeable tho as if you get grabbed and the deino has full stam you might as well just take your hands off the keyboard
paper oriole
if it was a stamina battle between you and the deino depending on factors like size and terrain maybe, making the player have to fight back and not have it be manual
and reward people who keep their stam up with a larger chance of escape
but if something like a utah gets grabbed honestly it should just give up lol
honest sparrow
I love the idea of stam battles, but it should be reserved for things of decent size
honest sparrow
iirc dondi said dibble would be like the largest thing deino would have a fairly easy time grabbing, i.e. what is currently reserved for teno, carno, etc
frigid storm
the counterplay to the deino is knowing if a water is deino infested lmao
there's literally no way to know this
honest sparrow
Yes there is lmao
paper oriole
deino's max grab was 4 or 5 tons right? i dont remember which
frigid storm
Yes there is lmao
no, there isn't, not unless you're willing to spend five minutes watching the river. nobody wants to do that
honest sparrow
deino's max grab was 4 or 5 tons right? i dont remember which
I think it’s half weight
frigid storm
also im pretty sure water ripples when deinos are near the surface so just haul ...
have not really seen this be entirely consistent
frigid storm
if you are on land, far from water, you immediately counter the grapple
yes, except the fact that dinos need water to survive; and dino is a defensive tool as well for herbivores
honest sparrow
no, there isn't, not unless you're willing to spend five minutes watching the ri...
Smelling for corpses, knowing which spots deinos like to hang out in, sound, interactive water moving around, looking to see if there are any as deinos love yo sit at the surface of lay on land for some reason
frigid storm
Smelling for corpses, knowing which spots deinos like to hang out in, sound, int...
this is unreliable
and really, irrelevant
honest sparrow
Lmfao
limber hull
there's literally no way to know this
there is. They HAVE to surface to breathe and there are several hotspots of water they like to hide around
frigid storm
there is. They HAVE to surface to breathe and there are several hotspots of wate...
but these are not guarantees, and again, are you going to sit and watch the water for five minutes?
paper oriole
here's a strategy. find some overtrusting juvie to hang out with, then let them go to the water first to find out if there's deinos there
frigid storm
here's a strategy. find some overtrusting juvie to hang out with, then let them ...
this is also unreliable, as patient crocs will wait for bigger meals
paper oriole
so like 10% of deino players
limber hull
not to mention large amount of corpses near water, group scent is very very sensitive with them and there are several ways to evade them. Pay attention to the area and define if they are there or not
blissful iron
but these are not guarantees, and again, are you going to sit and watch the wate...
play as deino once and swim around to see where the shallow parts are
then you will know where its safest to drink
frigid storm
play as deino once and swim around to see where the shallow parts are
you can see where it's shallow and where it isn't, really, just barely
honest sparrow
Also yeah shallows exists
frigid storm
then you will know where its safest to drink
this is not really a justifiable answer since you're not going to play around the shallows, that's boring gameplay
blissful iron
then you face death
frigid storm
i mean fine if you want to play around shallows that's cool, but imo it's not a good answer to the problem that exists
blissful iron
simple as that
paper oriole
but it works
why complain about all the available solutions and then act like there are none
frigid storm
simple as that
and that's my problem, just 'facing death' when you spend hours growing something isn't fun
i want to at least have some form of counter play.
blissful iron
yes but they can still get you even if you drink in a shallow spot
frigid storm
it's what makes a game interesting
blissful iron
and also the shallows are usually filled with other dinos
honest sparrow
Well then your just blind my guy
frigid storm
Well then your just blind my guy
that's just not how it works
blissful iron
so deinos arent your main threat at the shallows
paper oriole
there will be tons more water sources when the map is bigger, i'd honestly be surprised if there won't be any streams and shallow ponds to choose from, pretty sure a dev even said there will be shallow ponds that can dry up and refill
limber hull
deinos have to literally stay still in order to kill you. It's a stam battle
If they have low stam, and you have high stam, you can escape
frigid storm
If they have low stam, and you have high stam, you can escape
this is probably the best answer, but it's not always the case when you're using water as a defensive tool against carnis, as a herbi. your stamina likely won't be very high
limber hull
im pretty sure you gotta stop using water as a defensive tool tbh. Yes, it can work, but the deino was designed to prevent water from being a #1 tool for carni evasion
paper oriole
then dont use the water as a defensive tool? you're just picking your poison
blissful iron
it is a survival game and you must find ways to survive
frigid storm
then dont use the water as a defensive tool? you're just picking your poison
these aren't really great solutions to a problem that lies in little to no counter
blissful iron
not meant to be easy
frigid storm
pretty sure the croc is going to have massive stamina anyway regardless, do we have stats on what animals can actually out stam the deino?
potent gull
It’s a survival Dino roleplay, you think a tenontosaurus in real life would stand any chance against a full grown deinosuchus?
blissful iron
crocs drain stam pretty quickly
frigid storm
It’s a survival Dino roleplay, you think a tenontosaurus in real life would stan...
i never said stand a chance, did I?
honest sparrow
So you are purposely going in water, as something that can get grabbed, and expect not to get grabbed
potent gull
So then why complain
frigid storm
So you are purposely going in water, as something that can get grabbed, and expe...
no, i don't go in water lmao. that's different
more like keeping it on one side of me
potent gull
If you know you don’t have a fighting chance don’t whine about not having a fighting chance
frigid storm
If you know you don’t have a fighting chance don’t whine about not having a figh...
it's not about fighting, you're clearly misdirected
paper oriole
wildebeest can escape modern crocs at times, usually not in great shape of course, so i think a tenonto or carno could have a fighting chance depending on how well they've managed stam, but to say there are no other solutions right now is kinda silly
potent gull
You literally suggested bucking, that’s fighting back
blissful iron
most herbis have good defensive too
frigid storm
You literally suggested bucking, that’s fighting back
bucking isn't really fighting back, as much as struggling
i don't think bucking does any inherent damage
paper oriole
struggling is fighting back though...
honest sparrow
You can use the water to limit a carnis options yeah, but you do know the risk of staying near the water right
paper oriole
if you buck a utah successfully you can hammer his ass, it is defense
limber hull
deino does not have very high stam, surprisingly
frigid storm
of course but even still, i'd like to see the stats on what animals and at what ages can actually survive the stam battle
frigid storm
if you buck a utah successfully you can hammer his ass, it is defense
..that's a follow up attack though
paper oriole
you put it in an ez kill position, a defense doesnt always have to deal damage, it can start a combo
potent gull
Animals in real life know not to fuck around at watering holes for too long, because crocodile bite forces are just that strong. Once it bites you there is NO getting out without serious damage
frigid storm
Animals in real life know not to fuck around at watering holes for too long, bec...
this is a game tho, where you can have 10 fights that should have ended you and left you with debilitating injuries, but instead you heal to full health, just fine
frigid storm
Animals in real life know not to fuck around at watering holes for too long, bec...
"in real life" is a poor argument
honest sparrow
Nothing that can get grabbed survives assuming the deino has full stam I.e. had a successful ambush
potent gull
It’s a survival Dino roleplay based on real life animals that actually existed
honest sparrow
It’s a survival Dino roleplay based on real life animals that actually existed
Not really
frigid storm
It’s a survival Dino roleplay based on real life animals that actually existed
it's a game
frigid storm
Nothing that can get grabbed survives assuming the deino has full stam I.e. had ...
yeah that's just crazy to me, idk. like on one hand i understand it, but on another, because it's a game, you should be able to have a form of counterplay, because a game should be fun
frigid storm
It’s just a game right?
misdirected, once again. check yourself
blissful iron
it's a game
thats based on real life animals and they are trying to make it as realistic and hardcore as possible
frigid storm
thats based on real life animals and they are trying to make it as realistic and...
so then you should die after getting bit once.
potent gull
Anytime someone takes what you say and calls it out as shitty logic you say we’re misdirected
frigid storm
since in real life, bacterial infections were super common and you likely don't survive any attack
blissful iron
not all animals die after being bit once?
potent gull
You just reword what you say to make it sound like we’re “misdirected”
frigid storm
Anytime someone takes what you say and calls it out as shitty logic you say we’r...
no, you're literally misdirected. you think that because 'it's a game' that means that you shouldn't get passionate, but no, my point rather was that because it's a game it should be FUN, and sometimes that's unrealistic
honest sparrow
yeah that's just crazy to me, idk. like on one hand i understand it, but on anot...
It’s kinda like ice climbers in melee, assuming your that small and it got the jump on you you kinda deserve to die, the main form of counterplay is just to be vigilant from my pov, a game should be fun, just don’t get grabbed
frigid storm
If this game isn’t your cup of tea just don’t play
hm that's a poor response, and doesn't really indicate any critical thought. nice
potent gull
I do not mind dying to deinos for being a dumbass that got too close to deep water
frigid storm
I do not mind dying to deinos for being a dumbass that got too close to deep wat...
it doesn't even have to be deep
potent gull
I don’t need critical thought to tell you don’t fucking play a game if you don’t like it
honest sparrow
I do think tenos and carnos should have some sort of tug of war mechanic with deino
potent gull
You’re a troll, you have to be trolling at this point
frigid storm
I don’t need critical thought to tell you don’t fucking play a game if you don’t...
actually it would appear that you're the troll lmao
potent gull
There’s no way you genuinely think like this
frigid storm
I do think tenos and carnos should have some sort of tug of war mechanic with de...
that'd be nice
potent gull
“Ackshually”
frigid storm
“Ackshually”
you're not even talking about the game, you're just getting butthurt
limber hull
alright play stego if you hate carno so much
potent gull
You’re so butthurt you cried about deinos in suggestions
limber hull
fullgrow and you cant get grappled
frigid storm
what do you want from this game
my only point is that a game should have counterplay, because that's what makes a game rewarding. it doesn't have to be everything balanced and able to kill each other, but counter play is important
limber hull
what counterplay
frigid storm
You’re so butthurt you cried about deinos in suggestions
it's a suggestions channel, why are you mad
limber hull
dude, deino struggles enough with getting its food
late shadow
There is so much counter play
paper oriole
your counterplay is starve the deinos by not letting them grab you in the first place, wham bam feel free to use my genius idea
frigid storm
your counterplay is starve the deinos by not letting them grab you in the first ...
starve?
are you joking
fish spawns are insane
paper oriole
yes i know
limber hull
DUDE DEINO IS NOT A PISCIOVORE LMAO
honest sparrow
Don’t get grabbed
blissful iron
but they all get eaten by 3 deinos
potent gull
Interactive water was added for a reason
frigid storm
DUDE DEINO IS NOT A PISCIOVORE LMAO
are you telling me that deino doesn't eat fish?
potent gull
It’s a nerf to deino
frigid storm
Interactive water was added for a reason
it's not reliable, honestly. i've seen it be super inconsistent
blissful iron
fish are hard to come by in areas where there are other dinos
limber hull
its diet does not revolve around fish, no. If you want fishhunters, go ptera or beipi whenever that's out
potent gull
You have shitty performance than because it works for me
frigid storm
honestly i'll see it pop up for oxygen before it starves lmao
paper oriole
deino will probably be punished if he tries to live off of mostly fish when diets come anyway
frigid storm
its diet does not revolve around fish, no. If you want fishhunters, go ptera or ...
'its diet doesn't revolve' okay? it's still gonna eat fish if it's starving
potent gull
I’ve had the same Carno for 2 days drinking water just fine because I can see when deinos are coming up to lunge
frigid storm
You have shitty performance than because it works for me
again, a poor response
limber hull
i dont think you understand how little fish helps it, especially in populated deino hotspots
paper oriole
if you dont like it then it is a poor response lol
potent gull
You call anything a poor response because you don’t like the answer
frigid storm
i dont think you understand how little fish helps it, especially in populated de...
if it's populated, i'm not going to drink there in the first place
frigid storm
You call anything a poor response because you don’t like the answer
that's a poor response though, instead of responding with critical thought you're bashing my computer?
paper oriole
there are barely any deinos at the swamp, there are shallow spots in the river, there will be fuckloads of more water sources and less deinos to fill them in the future
frigid storm
if you dont like it then it is a poor response lol
no, honestly, i only really think a poor response is contributing nothing to a conversation
paper oriole
so if you dont like it then it contributes nothing to the conversation lol
potent gull
You aren’t the intellectual you think you are
frigid storm
so if you dont like it then it contributes nothing to the conversation lol
that's genuinely just taking what i said in the opposite direction
frigid storm
You aren’t the intellectual you think you are
i don't know why you care
potent gull
Keep stroking your ego
paper oriole
am i though
frigid storm
Keep stroking your ego
you're the one stroking it
potent gull
Yeah like you stroke your dads cock
frigid storm
am i though
yes, i laid out specifics in what a poor response is, and it has nothing to do with me not liking it
frigid storm
Yeah like you stroke your dads cock
immature and pathetic
potent gull
Ok
honest sparrow
Honestly this is the first time in a while I’ve seen 2 people like this in a feedback channel
It’s really entertaining
limber hull
immature and pathetic
idk man, i found it funny
frigid storm
lol
frigid storm
idk man, i found it funny
it normally would be if there weren't kids in this server
limber hull
im an adult
blissful iron
logi is that you?
limber hull
lmao
frigid storm
that's cool, i didn't ask nor assert otherwise
potent gull
I’m here for dev updates but goddamn I hate seeing people complain about deino all day
frigid storm
I’m here for dev updates but goddamn I hate seeing people complain about deino a...
seems like you just hate yourself tbh. learn to shut your mouth from time to time
limber hull
so true
paper oriole
deino should fuck up your day if it grabs you from the water. a struggle while on land could work but if you get jumped form the river it's on you
honest sparrow
deino *should* fuck up your day if it grabs you from the water. a struggle while...
This
blissful iron
complains about a survival game because its too hard to survive
paper oriole
it is supposed to be the water apex, it's honestly no less unfair than a rex jumping your ass from the treeline
honest sparrow
Just this
blissful iron
makes sense
limber hull
dude, there already IS a water struggle, it's just passive
potent gull
Yeah OP is stupid af
God forbid you have to survive in a survival game
Without handholding mechanics
frigid storm
deino *should* fuck up your day if it grabs you from the water. a struggle while...
idk then at the very least it should be a wind up
frigid storm
i don't see how that's true
paper oriole
yeah swim up to your target and then have to wind up your attack and hope they arent cautious enough to move while drinking which a lot of people tend to do
frigid storm
yeah swim up to your target and then have to wind up your attack and hope they a...
for a free kill, yeah, why not.
paper oriole
i see a lot of people drinking, runnning a bit, drinking, running a bit, a wind up would ruin deino in the water lol
limber hull
It literally isnt a free kill
potent gull
Yeah being a fat fucking croc with interactive water giving you away isn’t already enough reaction time
limber hull
like saying raptor pounce is a free kill
frigid storm
It literally isnt a free kill
somebody just mentioned that at full stam nothing can win the stam battle
potent gull
Good idea let’s give them a wind up
honest sparrow
the deino literally works to get close an ambush
honest sparrow
somebody just mentioned that at full stam nothing can win the stam battle
assuming it gets the jump on you like it should is what I said
which it should be rewarded for
potent gull
It’s less the deino being good just you being shit at knowing when a deino is ambushing
frigid storm
assuming it gets the jump on you like it should is what I said
well yeah, full stam, regardless
blissful iron
somebody just mentioned that at full stam nothing can win the stam battle
its pretty rare to find a deino who lunges at you with full stam
unless they have been waiting in the one spot all day
frigid storm
unless they have been waiting in the one spot all day
this unfortunately happens a lot
blissful iron
dont drink in those spots then
limber hull
okay, it needs to WAIT to get that stam. Surprisingly, deino is one of the least mobile characters in the game, with an average-at-best movespeed in a very restrictive area (waterways), or abysmal movespeed on the surface. This means that deinos need to be exceptionally slow and patient to even hope of landing that "free kill", and if they're seen surfacing for oxygen, that ambush on that target is GONE
blissful iron
the game is meant to be dynamic where you are meant to be moving around
if its too dangerous to drink in one spot move somewhere else
and when that spots dangerous move again
honest sparrow
you walk into the ambush of an apex, you get punished
frigid storm
i could have just really bad luck, but I have zero time to react. i consider myself a pretty observant person, too. I have a lot of times where I drink just fine, i'm careful, but there's always going to be a chance of pure unluck
frigid storm
you walk into the ambush of an apex, you get punished
at least then you can run
blissful iron
i have never been ambushed by a deino
quiet plover
There’s not a deino at every water
Yeah, I've drank from rivers countless times and have only ever had a deino try and ambush me three times, and each attempt was unsuccessful
honest sparrow
I've been ambushed by deinos and gotten away plenty of times, I've gotten grabbed a decent amount of times, I've completely avoided them a few times
its not a free win by any means
limber hull
i could have just really bad luck, but I have zero time to react. i consider mys...
observe the ripples. That's what I do and it works a ton of the time
frigid storm
observe the ripples. That's what I do and it works a ton of the time
i'm telling you, when it happens to me, i genuinely don't see them. i think i get unlucky where they're lying just below where i'm drinking
honest sparrow
most of the time they fuck up the actual ambush rather than the approach for me
blissful iron
when you go to drink you sit around and watch the water
wait to see if anything moves
any crocs need air
honest sparrow
sniff for corpses as well
limber hull
just had someone in my pack, right now, get lunged at by a deino. The deino missed and thus the entire hunt was fucked
now the whole pack is wary of that water and he has failed to eat
honest sparrow
some deinos don't even know how to lunge
blissful iron
yep
some deinos are just horrible
others are cannibals and kill the other deinos
honest sparrow
they always kill their own
doesn't matter if they're hungry or not
they always kill their own
limber hull
true
blissful iron
yep
limber hull
maybe when spino is out the cannibal problem will subside because, scary big spino
frigid storm
sniff for corpses as well
idk when it happens to me i get zero warning signs, and i promise you i'm cautious
frigid storm
any crocs need air
i mean I know this, but I've waited for like five minutes at a time. does anyone know exactly how long they can hold their breath?
blissful iron
theres a wiki
frigid storm
i know. it's unreliable.
blissful iron
but if you find out which spots are populated you can move around to more quieter spots
there are like 2-3 rivers that i've ever only seen 1 croc in
honest sparrow
believe deinos can hold their breaths for up to 10 mins
frigid storm
believe deinos can hold their breaths for up to 10 mins
that's fucking insaneee lmao
honest sparrow
but its unlikely you're going to run into one with that much breath
frigid storm
nah but the average is probably 5-10 minutes
chilly matrix
@hoary dawn it was my fault that the old Chat got deleted (because of that)
They had to delete the evidence
But unlucky for them I made pics
brittle ivy
@pliant token QA would be unable to answer your question as we have all signed NDAs. It will just be a case of you having to find out via in-game or any patch notes.
pliant token
<@202936637447995392> QA would be unable to answer your question as we have all ...
Oh my bad, thought it might be a public information but I wasnt aware of it
brittle ivy
All good
valid elk
Jeez, I didn't think my Magy idea was that good
barren zephyr
@tired torrent bruh imagen getting killed by fall damadge. ur useing like an 8 tone dino. ofc ur gonna die of fall damadge on like a meter fall. imagen if i was sat on ur back and u fall over from standing straight onto ur chest (i waigh 210 lbs) ofc ur gonan die. ribs r gonna break and puncture ur lungs or whatever
its a "sim" game
theres no need to throw insults at me. calm ur tits plus there was no way of me knowing what dino u were
its a descussion channel. stop throwing inults at me like a child
sonic mural
Wow ppl can’t reply to other ppl apparently lol
barren zephyr
Wow ppl can’t reply to other ppl apparently lol
ikr weird
sonic mural
He misspelled 1 word😐
barren zephyr
am i insulting you? 
#
sonic mural
Who cares😂
barren zephyr
Who cares😂
based
urban flax
Hello people. Friendly reminder that if you ever feel someone is having inappropriate behavior towards you, you can always call a mod and let them judge.
barren zephyr
WuHh He MiSsPeLt A wOrD rEeEeEeE
barren zephyr
Hello people. Friendly reminder that if you ever feel someone is having inapprop...
true true
dont like it than dont play it. its quite simple
sonic mural
Yep
barren zephyr
@edgy harbor do you think @tired torrent's use of vulgure language ageinst me is called for? 
sonic mural
Like he said it’s a discussion channel lol why u get so mad that someone disagrees with u
severe idol
Nah... I dealt with it.
edgy harbor
Was late mb ty Saoul
errant tartan
Anyone else find eating fish with deino is super buggy ?
azure wadi
I found it pretty difficult last time I tried but I think I’m just bad at fishing
severe idol
@valid oracle
Not just no but hell no. The Isle memes may never return. It is for the best.
azure wadi
I mean, just use offtopic, it’s basically the same at this point, just with more shit posts
severe idol
(:
hoary dawn
honest sparrow
valid oracle
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Not just no but hell no. The Isle memes may never return....
once again…
hoary dawn
wait a minute
hoary dawn
<@!657710532479942696>
Not just no but hell no. The Isle memes may never return....
if isle memes is gone for good, does that mean once again's ban is lifted?
severe idol
Why would that be the case?
hoary dawn
cuz ben was banned and people still rave about that
and if the channel is gone then the evidence to support a ban is gone as well
severe idol
How about this... you go for it and see what happens. lol I supported and shielded the dumb memes channel for a long time, but I don't need to anymore.
hoary dawn
i shall
inner hound
god bless memes isnt coming back
nova anchor
isle memes was a glorious sight to behold
pliant token
just posted a weird water animation and here is another at log bridge
hoary dawn
global is not coming back nor does it have a good reason to, suggesting the same thing over and over is pointless
odd sedge
There is no reason for global chat that is not countered by a negative argument or a simple way to work around it
paper oriole
If Oviraptor doesnt have anything actually unique set up for it yet id rather it wait
Right now it looks like discount galli
I hope they give him something good because his concept was nothing special at all
hard tiger
oh ye update 5 is nesting and they said they were gonna make it able to steal eggs right? or smth like that
i cannot remember
paper oriole
galli will also steal eggs
hoary dawn
well i mean that is oviraptor's whole schtick
paper oriole
and im pretty sure punch implied yesterday that stealing eggs isnt special
we'll probably see tons of small predators like troodon and velociraptor stealing eggs too
pliant token
will obv be fast, able to kill juvis and troodons, steal and eat eggs besides that we wait to know
paper oriole
so while oviraptor is iconic, he is not special and is just a discount galli right now unless they have something actually good planned for him
lol i doubt ovi will have a good chance against troodon
the devs crammed troodon full of utility and leave oviraptor naked as far as they've shown
oviraptorids are some of my fav dinos so i feel like im gonna be heavy disappointed with how they treat ovi honestly
pliant token
well, its not like our chickens rn are any better tbh
paper oriole
just a discount galli
swift dew
will obv be fast, able to kill juvis and troodons, steal and eat eggs besides th...
excuse me, but what lets it kill troodons?
paper oriole
maybe if the troodon is afk lol
swift dew
unless ovi is going to be oversized, it definitly can't kill troodon
not one with any amount of skill at least
pliant token
in my head troodons were smaller lol
hard tiger
same
pliant token
whats the point of even utahs if troodons are this big
paper oriole
i mean they have a totally different style
pliant token
its just a 2.0 utah then
paper oriole
and are still puny to utah
pliant token
welp, still better abilities on troodons
swift dew
whats the point of even utahs if troodons are this big
troodon is 40 kg, utah is 500, that makes utah 12.5 times heavier
pliant token
it really is in that shema
swift dew
its like asking why have rex when you have utah instead
paper oriole
sure our utah is also a scrappy dumb looking animal but troodon is built like a weasel
molten tulip
I think the chat reading would be cool on ovi
pliant token
i dont think there should even be rex lol
swift dew
its like asking why have rex when you have utah instead
which is 16 times heavier (assuming rex is 8 tons, which is a tad small)
pliant token
would be more interesting if apex dinos were ai bosses or something than playable content
swift dew
though our rex is a bit thin so 8 tons seems about right tbh
paper oriole
as long as they are truly hard to get they should be playable
pliant token
theyre not tho
paper oriole
we dont know for sure yet
paper oriole
im personally prepared for disappointment but they supposedly want apexes to be hard to achieve
pliant token
deino is an apex... aint hard
swift dew
that is more than a few, but you get my point
paper oriole
deino will hopefully be punished for afk eating fish when diets come
swift dew
deino is an apex... aint hard
things change, diets will make everything much harder since you have to move around
pliant token
tbh how is Beipi suppose to eat alongside deinos
swift dew
tbh how is Beipi suppose to eat alongside deinos
well for starters, adult deino is supposed to be hard to get, and its faster
paper oriole
i do hope they rework water detection though
swift dew
so once diets comes, and makes deino life the hell its supposed to be, then it will be fine
pliant token
sounds are almost inexistant underwater and the new water vision is also almost inexistant
paper oriole
itll be annoying af being visible at all times with a bright blue fart bubble ring surrounding me to alert every aquatic animal in the area
swift dew
also there is a new mapper so smaller streams for smaller semi-aquatics will exist
hopefully
pliant token
itll be annoying af being visible at all times with a bright blue fart bubble ri...
would be interesting if deinos didnt have it but beipi did
paper oriole
honestly i wish it was just activated and changed visually
because the rings also look super intrusive on the screen
pliant token
visually i can agree
paper oriole
theyre so damn bright and unnatural
pliant token
just like everything you can scent tho
paper oriole
some sort of ripple effect would look better
the bubble rings are way worse than the scent dots 99% of the time
pliant token
i think a mist for herbs and meat would be better than frame dropping points
paper oriole
the 1% is when there is a ton of shit in one spot and it is mega cluttered, plus you have to activate scent at least
also i hope we can customize scent indicators
my dumb colourblind ass doesnt have fun with the water and herb dots
paper oriole
customization would probably be better honestly since there are many kinds of colourblindness
labeled colours in skin customization and an option to customize UI and scent colours ezpz
pliant token
I find 1 month for each patch a bit slow.
considering we really didnt need more human structures rn
it isnt adding to the game
But can we also have some actual playable official servers lol..
barren zephyr
I find 1 month for each patch a bit slow.
Wut
pliant token
What's the question?
barren zephyr
A update per 1 update is fast
pliant token
you mean an update every month* ?
barren zephyr
Yeah that would be fast
pliant token
it's not
pliant token
if there was actually more content in them, it would.
except the patches lack content.
barren zephyr
So the last update the 3.5 you feel was slow for little content
pliant token
I feel it was very unecessary content on some things
barren zephyr
Well, lots of stuff happened. Utah got its pounce fixed. Loads of bug fixes, new interactive water, new human building interiors I would say is content
pliant token
pounce fixed?
barren zephyr
Yeah
barren zephyr
The Utah’s pounce was bugged for the Utah besides it’s adult so it was only achievable at 100%
pliant token
As I said, very unecessary content for some things, that work time could have been used in other, more interesting stuff
barren zephyr
It took a looong time for to fix it cause they had to do it for every single stage of 1-100
pliant token
Was that simply not added at all previously ?
barren zephyr
It was, it was just bugged
pliant token
so added, but never worked out.
barren zephyr
And it took from October-then just to fix it
pliant token
how do you add something that just doesn't exist. I mean, if it doesn't work at all, it's like it doesn't exist
barren zephyr
Actually more of like September tbh
Idk but when it was added the pounce was really bugged for the rest of the stages
pliant token
it's not even a bugged pounce, it's just an inexistant pounce lol
barren zephyr
It WAS bugged so they took it out to fix it
pliant token
mhk
humans structures is legit the most useless thing rn and I can't change my mind on that. Would prefer them to work on something else than human stuff
barren zephyr
Ok
Well
Human buildings having interiors fleshed them out more, and allows us to get a really good feel for how big the Dino’s actually are, there more of just teases for when humans do come
pliant token
I just wish they never do.
barren zephyr
Wdym
pliant token
the day it'll happen I will prob stop playing.
barren zephyr
You don’t want humans?
pliant token
No.
barren zephyr
Why
pliant token
Because it should stay a dinosaur survival game
barren zephyr
It was never supposed to be
pliant token
And because Humans race is legit in every single game and it's both boring and basic
barren zephyr
It’s a survival horror game that you play as either humans or Dino’s
pliant token
Humans never came in so, it has never been that.
barren zephyr
Actually humans are in little games, only one I can think of is primal carnage which The Isle has some lore attached to it
pliant token
I never said dinosaurs game
honest sparrow
Humans were always planned
barren zephyr
Humans were always planned but they never implemented cause they wanted to work on Dino’s first
honest sparrow
Idk what to tell you, there will be server options to turn off factions regardless
pliant token
Kinda weird they always wanted humans but never made them and wait 10 years to add them.
low canopy
they might have been planned but the idea of humans looming on the background is not the reason why game ever got any sort of audience
honest sparrow
More like 6 years but ok
pliant token
they might have been planned but the idea of humans looming on the background is...
Exactly
barren zephyr
Humans are alot trickier to add them Dino’s
ebon coyote
Im not a big fan of the human part too 👀 I know it was planned and stuff but I probably dont like them
pliant token
More like 6 years but ok
Oh because you really think they'll be there next year? they have a hard time making each dinosaurs and planned way much more species before humans.
low canopy
humans are terribly overdone in general, and it comes down to them put actual effort into them or its gonna be a hindrance for the rest of the game
barren zephyr
The original idea of the game was humans on a island full of dinosaurs
That’s why in the loading screens you had cars and such
crisp idol
I would prefer that we have a actual balanced working game before humans
honest sparrow
Oh because you really think they'll be there next year? they have a hard time ma...
I never said that, and also if you really wanna do it that way they were technically planned and implemented before like 90% of the roster
pliant token
The isle, stays, a lot of speculations that we are waiting for, and with this rythm, humans won't come in atleast 1-2 years
pliant token
I would prefer that we have a actual balanced working game before humans
same
honest sparrow
That too
ebon coyote
Im just not sure why they do build human structures NOW instead of adding more dinosaurs and creating a working map, flora and fauna first
barren zephyr
The isle, stays, a lot of speculations that we are waiting for, and with this ry...
How do you know? Humans are being worked in the shadows until there almost done
Humans will come sonner than you think
pliant token
Im just not sure why they do build human structures NOW instead of adding more d...
Exactly what I said earlier lmao.
quiet estuary
Im just not sure why they do build human structures NOW instead of adding more d...
The dev who does human things is not the dev who does the other things you mentioned
So while one dev does dinosaur things, the human asset developer can do what they were hired for
barren zephyr
Im just not sure why they do build human structures NOW instead of adding more d...
Because it’s so you have some extra stuff to look at besides jungle and grass
pliant token
Humans are SO unnecessary right now. Because it lacks contents for what we already have. So why wasting time on human structures and plots, I want mechanics and bugs fixed and server fixes.
crisp idol
The Focus is totally wrong. There is no balancing and content what was already in the game has been cut out (dinosaurs, nesting) we have an undone map which looks the same no matter where you are, has ugly walls as a limitation
honest sparrow
We have a map designer and a human environment modeler, so both work together and independently
barren zephyr
The humans and map devs work away from updates
quiet estuary
Nagini, the human developer has no ties to making new mechanics and fixing bugs, so one can work on the human buildings while mechanics and bug fixes are being made
barren zephyr
They do there work whenever they want
quiet estuary
It isnt like one is a hindrance to the other
pliant token
Yes but instead of hiring someone to work on humans they should put the money in other stuff tbh.
ebon coyote
Because it’s so you have some extra stuff to look at besides jungle and grass
Im fine with jungle and grass, I just miss some POI to navigate better xD
honest sparrow
Yes but instead of hiring someone to work on humans they should put the money in...
Lmfao
pliant token
So they do have ties if they need to cut their budget so this guy can have a pay
barren zephyr
Yes but instead of hiring someone to work on humans they should put the money in...
They already are
They have like 1-2 people work on humans while everyone else is the gameplay
crisp idol
Well in all projects i have worked, there was an development plan. if it is like "yeah everyone do what they want" it never turned out good and a lot of games with the lack of development structure just failed
pliant token
well, add 1-2 people work on something relevant instead..
quiet estuary
What aikeen
honest sparrow
“Let us completely ignore the rest of the development team and only single out like the 2 human devs who obviously get the majority of resources”
barren zephyr
well, add 1-2 people work on something relevant instead..
We literally have 2 animators, and idk what the rest do lol
pliant token
We?
crisp idol
the 2 working on the humans, no matter what their department is, could do something MORE IMPORTANT right now
ebon coyote
We literally have 2 animators, and idk what the rest do lol
Humans XD
honest sparrow
We already have a decently sized development team apart from the need for source code
quiet estuary
Thats the thing, they are hired specifically to do humans
They possibly lack the capabilities to do other things
barren zephyr
Tapwing does concept art, dondi does dondi, wedge is sound design think amarok is playtesting
crisp idol
if they are grafic designers -> focus on dinos. if they are map designers -> Make POIs and make the map more realistic and not looking the same on every spot
pliant token
I mean, those devs working on human stuff know how to do more than humans. when you learn animation or coding or design, it's not only about humans
barren zephyr
I mean, those devs working on human stuff know how to do more than humans. when ...
Yes but they specify in humans and not creatures that’s why they work on them
honest sparrow
the 2 working on the humans, no matter what their department is, could do someth...
Their speciality is human stuff, visual does not work on map design because he’s a specialist in building design
silver zephyr
ah yes force visual and the human modeler to do stuff they werent hired for, ingenious
crisp idol
if they can do ONLY Humans, then they are not professionals sorry
ebon coyote
And we we really need something to eat the Crocs. Drinking is more of an adventure then therest of the game nowadays 
quiet estuary
Yes, but the fact they specialize in human objects mean those will be what will have a higher quality than the things they arent trained to do
barren zephyr
Humans are not all animations, there also mechanics and modeling
pliant token
ah yes force visual and the human modeler to do stuff they werent hired for, ing...
No, use your money more intelligently and don't hire people to work on something useless when you can use that money to benefit more important stuff.*
honest sparrow
It’s like asking a person who specializes in a certain form of painting to do sketched concept art
quiet estuary
The term useless is subjective
crisp idol
If you can modell humans you can model animals also
quiet estuary
That is false
crisp idol
No it is not for computer aided designing
barren zephyr
No, use your money more intelligently and don't hire people to work on something...
Your talking like humans are a waste of time
pliant token
You do learn both in school tho, doesn't mean you're good tho
ebon coyote
No, use your money more intelligently and don't hire people to work on something...
Yes, thank you.
pliant token
Your talking like humans are a waste of time
they truly are
low canopy
humans are not necessarily useless, if they manage to capture that JP feel with very samey world it would work wonders
barren zephyr
they truly are
How?
pliant token
a severe waste of time
crisp idol
because they all are just mathematical, geometrical and you need to do that both for humans and animals
the generall process is the same
barren zephyr
Humans add the horror aspect and lots of lore
honest sparrow
They are essentially half of the intended game
pliant token
Humans add the horror aspect and lots of lore
theres nothing horror about humans