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#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
valid zephyr
I dunno. A small group of gallis with those legs.
barren zephyr
Galli, hunting 
valid zephyr
Pretty sure galli will be one shotting a merc.
vast wolf
if anything ovi should be the most meat inclined. eating eggs, high quality vegetation and small animals maybe even taking a bite out of a fresh kill.
barren zephyr
I dunno. A small group of gallis with those legs.
that goes for every creature, in a big enough group even hypsi can hunt
barren zephyr
if anything ovi should be the most meat inclined. eating eggs, high quality vege...
why?
vast wolf
galli will most likely do very high damage with its kick.
barren zephyr
Its described as a egg guy
valid zephyr
Galli/beip should be the most herbi based omnivore imo.
barren zephyr
why?
valid zephyr
Irl galli was pure herbi.
vast wolf
why?
because it has the physical traits to regularly eat small animals where as galli does not.
barren zephyr
Irl galli was pure herbi.
and the isle is SOOOO realistic
valid zephyr
Though I will still die on the hill that beip should be been a terrestrial insectivore. Raiding termite mounds.
barren zephyr
because it has the physical traits to regularly eat small animals where as galli...
why cant galli?
barren zephyr
Though I will still die on the hill that beip should be been a terrestrial insec...
it can swim for a reason
it has webbed feet
short legs
why would it spend time on land?
vast wolf
beipi and galli should be limited to special dietary requests. ovi should just have meat/eggs and cherius should be fish.
barren zephyr
beipi and galli should be limited to special dietary requests. ovi should just h...
why?
barren zephyr
Galli makes perfect sense being able to eat anything
ovi is described as more specialized
vast wolf
Galli makes perfect sense being able to eat anything
small teeth, tiny head, mainly herbivorous diet.
valid zephyr
why would it spend time on land?
As in the model should have been made from the start for it. It should never have been turned into a penguin duck.
vast wolf
ovi prefers higher quality food than galli but ovi can eat meat more regularly.
While it's diet primarily consists of vegetation the Gallimimus is an omnivore, allowing it to feed upon the eggs of other dinosaurs.
valid zephyr
Galli is already ovi but better in all ways. Don't need to give it even more stuff better than ovi.
vast wolf
directly from the roadmap, galli like beipi is intended to be a limited omnivore.
it grazes on aquatic flora and the occasional fauna
thats beipi
Preferences aside, the Oviraptor is an omnivore, allowing it to choose from a diverse selection of food sources, granting it a distinct survival advantage.
barren zephyr
Galli is already ovi but better in all ways. Don't need to give it even more stu...
and? 
barren zephyr
directly from the roadmap, galli like beipi is intended to be a limited omnivore...
pic?
vast wolf
ovi is the most generalised
beipi is the most limited
galli rarely eats meat.
cherius will likely eat aquatic plants, fruit/high growing vegitation and fish.
barren zephyr
ovi is the most generalised
beipi is the most limited
galli rarely eats meat.
ch...
whats the point of being a omnivore at that point
barren zephyr
go look if you dont trust me.
pretty sure galli isnt on the roadmap anymore
valid zephyr
and? <:TI_HypsiShrug:696885704524824586>
So you want ovi to be completely redundent?
barren zephyr
fair
barren zephyr
So you want ovi to be completely redundent?
no
vast wolf
dio, this can and will go on for hours lets agree to disagree.
barren zephyr
sure
spring holly
@tender latch - thing is cannibalism will only be punished if the body is consumed. it will not stop players from killing their own kind.
tender latch
Yeah I know
spring holly
okay just wanted to make sure ^^
swift dew
@flat crypt I say ovi is 20-30 minutes, dryo is 30 minutes and ovi is WAYY smaller, like 1/4 the size of dryo, ptera only takes 45 minutes because flight is an extremely powerful ability that needs to be balanced out with a longer growth time
glacial quest
||cosmo when||
swift dew
@ancient swift paths don't need anything to make them better, they already hide your footprints when you walk on them so they are already pretty useful
ancient swift
Oh i didn't know that! Thanks.
tall oasis
@swift dew https://www.google.com/search?q=is+therizinosaurus+a+omnivore%3F&oq=is+therizinosaurus+a+omnivore%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57.543j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Scientists believe that Theri was actually an Omnivore. Heres a google link
swift dew
an omnivorous herbivore, think of omnivory as a spectrum, some "herbivores" can eat insects, and can actually eat meat every now and then, yet they are still considered "herbivores". some carnivores, can eat berries and certain plants aswell, yet they are still considered "carnivores" its a spectrum and theri is definitly more herbivore than omnivore
urban flax
I don't get your reasoning with theri's attacks. Why would it have a peck for its Alt-LMB that is completely useless ? And what's the difference between LMB and RMB apart from the fact RMB does a tiny amount more damage ?
Oh and scientific theories might change every year, so it's not really relevant unless we've got a solid proof on it
Plus The Isle's dinos aren't really accurate so I wouldn't mind herbivorous theri, since we're already getting cheirus as an apex omni
tall oasis
an omnivorous herbivore, think of omnivory as a spectrum, some "herbivores" can ...
hmmmm
but it says that it's both
swift dew
also idk what your link was supposed to take me to, the thing that google says, or one of the links below. because if its the thing that google says...
then that is probably not the best source
as you can see
tall oasis
also idk what your link was supposed to take me to, the thing that google says, ...
WAIT WAT??
tall oasis
just search if theri is a omnivore
urban flax
"On land, Titanoboa was surprisingly a very fast animal"
Indeed it's surprising
swift dew
titanoboa is not fast
ik, I was saying that the first thing google says probably isnt to be trusted, and I was using that as an example
another example
urban flax
I think google is illiterate
swift dew
and if your link was supposed to take me here, then this is probably a tad outdated
tall oasis
I don't get your reasoning with theri's attacks. Why would it have a peck for it...
the alt bite is not useless, it has surprising range actually. But I do agree with the RMB attack mistake I have made, ima edit the post quickly
tall oasis
another example
WOAH
tall oasis
and if your link was supposed to take me here, then this is probably a tad outda...
HOW?!?!?!
MY LIFE IS A LIE
urban flax
It's 85 dmg
For an apex-sized dino
With giant claws
Since it's also slow as you said, might as well turn manually and do an actual attack
barren zephyr
Therizinosaurus was likely an obligate herbivore (based on numerous relatives)
urban flax
Plus it deprives theri of a turning claw swipe, which would make the most sense
tall oasis
It's 85 dmg
For an apex-sized dino
With giant claws
Since it's also slow as you ...
yee ur right, im going to edit it's attacks
tall oasis
Plus it deprives theri of a turning claw swipe, which would make the most sense
also think about the blood loss perk, once you get swiped, your going to lose bleed fast, which means you should probable wallow or rest
urban flax
One more reason for the bite to be useless
tall oasis
One more reason for the bite to be useless
i edited it, what do you think about the peck now?...
barren zephyr
ik, I was saying that the first thing google says probably isnt to be trusted, a...
Lmao i searched it up and it came up with spino xd
urban flax
i edited it, what do you think about the peck now?...
It's absurd now
That's way too much damage for a dino like theri
Dude has practically no jaw, and not much teeth
tall oasis
It's absurd now
okeh, is it OP?
tall oasis
Alt-LMB shouldn't be a bite for theri
How about, it uses it's tail as a brush, and swipes dirt into the appoints eyes and blinds them? IDK anymore
urban flax
idk, what weapons does theri have apart from its beak and tail ?
tall oasis
idk, what weapons does theri have apart from its beak and tail ?
claws, but I want to make Theri more unique in terms of attacks, like not just use it's claws
honest sparrow
Idk, I think theri that specializes in comboing attacks with its claws could be interesting
tall oasis
Idk, I think theri that specializes in comboing attacks with its claws could be ...
look at what I have done to its ALT LMB attack
honest sparrow
Wouldn’t all the dust just collect in the theris feathers
tall oasis
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
tall oasis
ⁿᵒ
tall oasis
Imagine getting blinded and then murked
I am just going to get rid of it's attack once and for all
urban flax
Hey, what about you give it a turning claw swipe instead ?
tall oasis
Hey, what about you give it a turning claw swipe instead ?
ᶦ ᵍᵘᵉˢˢ
i just wanted theri to be more unique with it's attacks
urban flax
Sometimes, making sense is better than being unique
Theri is already the only herb with such huge claws
tall oasis
Sometimes, making sense is better than being unique
woah. that is honestly inspirational
urban flax
Better focus on the claw gameplay instead of wasting it with alt attacks that come out of nowhere
tall oasis
thank you for the feedback
urban flax
np
urban flax
Now there's only the RMB left to take care of :)
tall oasis
Now there's only the RMB left to take care of :)
yee, do u have any ideas?
urban flax
Hmmm, maybe a rushing swipe that deals a lot of damage and allows you to go forward, but with a high recovery time
To finish off an opponent that tries to get away
vast wolf
formated papers and actual palentological sites > wikipedia > general sites on dinosaurs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google.
urban flax
@barren zephyr It's unlikely
swift dew
@sturdy widget dryos niche rn is one that needs to be occupied by something. but not dryo. I say let galli play how dryo plays rn (which a little less agility) and make dryo the doding/agility KING, but a little slower than utah
honest sparrow
^
tall oasis
To finish off an opponent that tries to get away
not sure. Theri weighs a lot
swift dew
theri doesn't weigh that much
tall oasis
it would have to be a slow rush, at least with that weight
urban flax
Yes, I'm not talking about a fighting game-like attack where you instantly reach your opponent
I'd say it should be a little faster than theri's sprinting speed
sturdy widget
<@!189117353995272193> dryos niche rn is one that needs to be occupied by *somet...
There's sooo many utahs all the time tho, I'm usually stumbling upon packs of 6+, there's no way a dryos getting outta there if its not faster. I'm good at hiding in the forest, but the big packs search way harder and I usually get spotted again multiple times before they give up
tall oasis
I'd say it should be a little faster than theri's sprinting speed
i like that as a ALT RMB
urban flax
Yeah but you can't put an alt RMB if there's no regular RMB attack
swift dew
There's sooo many utahs all the time tho, I'm usually stumbling upon packs of 6+...
well for the time being let dryo keep the speed, but once galli comes let it have that speed and some of dryos current agility, no point in having two herbivores that are faster than everything except 1 thing and they both juke it so hard its ankles go to the moon
tall oasis
Yeah but you can't put an alt RMB if there's no regular RMB attack
the RMB is claw slash in my suggestion
urban flax
Yeah but it's just a stronger version of LMB with a cooldown. Not very interesting mechanic-wise
Plus cooldowns are not very good for a survival game
drifting rose
nvm miss read this
urban flax
We don't know
This is a community member's suggestion
It is likely that galli will have a kick, but as long as the devs haven't stated it, we're not sure
swift dew
well galli kicks in the concept
urban flax
And Utah scrambles up trees
swift dew
how do you know utah wont scramble up trees in the future?
urban flax
I don't know
But for now it doesn't
tall oasis
Yeah but it's just a stronger version of LMB with a cooldown. Not very interesti...
So I changed it to a stab, as well as made deal more damage, I also made some other adjustments
urban flax
good
barren zephyr
I feel like there should be a separate place for skin suggestions
tall oasis
I feel like there should be a separate place for skin suggestions
there is #skins
tall oasis
oh nvrm
urban flax
The skins channel isn't for skin suggestions
snow meadow
Why no VR? You don't want to be the eyes of your raptor jumping on someone. Or a nervous stego always having to look behind you? Or be a human and have something pounce on you and eat your face?
The game is supposed to be a horror. This game in vr would be terrifying and kind of amazing imo.
If this game had vr support I'd probably buy a vr set just for this.
urban flax
You probably don't realize how much work implementing VR would be
And it would only be useful for a tiny amount of players
snow meadow
Well I'm not saying anytime soon. I'd imagine it more when the game isn't considered early access
urban flax
Even when the game is no longer early acces, it wouldn't be woth it
And you'll probably never get first person view as a dino either so it'd only work for humans
So that's a feature that would require a ton of work, be useful only for players who have VR gear and play humans, and in the end it would be unplayable because the game isn't designed for VR
barren zephyr
I don't think it would be that much work but I also don't think the Devs should really put any focus on it. Someone will mod in VR support eventually.
tired wagon
^^^^^^
Tbh most of the suggestions here will probably just end up as mods anyway, especially the requested playables.
molten tulip
Converting a game that was constructed, from every aspect to animation to size of players to scale of map, to VR requires you to rebuild everything from the ground up
Imo too much work for something that wouldn't really even be worth it, first person vr gameplay sounds incredibly hard
Nauseating too considering how fast the dinos move and jump around
sudden hinge
More feesh
sonic mural
paper oriole
In general i think dinos should stop announcing their position when they lay down, it makes no sense
Why would an animal want to give away its position when putting itself in a vulnerable stance?
bold palm
The steggo has the worst sounds when sitting and standing up
what is with the what sounds like a utah 10 feet away grunt sound it makes? every time i stand up with steg, i hear that and think I'm being attacked. Also sound seems to trail the dino if you don't use alt to look around so it kinda sounds like something is behind you at times. But ya the sound in general needs some attention.
as far as resting, removing or tanking the sounds a bit would be nice, they totally give away your hiding locations.
wild stone
Plus cooldowns are not very good for a survival game
What gave you that idea?
dry wolf
Waiting for the replay sistem in evrima 
bold palm
Waiting for the replay sistem in evrima <:TI_BeipiSquint:697206122469392516>
that is prob going to be a long wait lol
barren zephyr
Converting a game that was constructed, from every aspect to animation to size o...
Most games with VR support just have you view the game through a headset. No rebuilding required.
steep swallow
A little suggestion added onto it would be if you had found the same dinos tracks multiple times before, you could begin to recognize what it was exactly? For example if dino A. had never seen a dilo, never scented one, and then it found a dilos tracks it wouldn't be able to pinpoint what it was, it would only know that "hey, this looks like and smells like a carnivore". Meanwhile dino B. has seen a dilo, smelled its tracks atleast 4-5 times, it would immediatly know "okay, this is a dilo"
gilded pond
A little suggestion added onto it would be if you had found the same dinos track...
Yes exactly!
steep swallow
Or maybe if you're a herbi and you are nested in with other herbivores, you could recognize their scent way faster in life since.. well, you grew up with them
overall this suggestion sounds wonderful
gilded pond
I love that addition, Ollie! <3
steep swallow
thankyouu! <3
ashen wasp
Cherry looks like it’s wearing the skin of an actual Deinocheirus, draped over its back
paper oriole
Hey don't scream at the bin chicken he's beautiful
warm flame
molten tulip
Most games with VR support just have you view the game through a headset. No reb...
Most games have thought "lol just strap a camera on the player", did that, then realized that the way the entire map is built looks weird and liminal because it was built at the much higher 3rd person pov
So they had to tweak the way everything was made, including the scale of the map, the way objects are placed near each other, how extreme the animations are, where the horizon is, etc
Considering the isle, where you depend on tracking the enemies around you, looking for their tells before an attack, sniffing, how tall the grass is, when to know to buck, positioning yourself over food to eat it, having the dinosaur's head fling everywhere during certain animations, etc etc sounds like tons of stuff to fine tune
I dont see why someone would want a vr version of the isle anyway, that sounds like constant motion sickness and getting ambushed by stegos in the plains
wild stone
I dont see why someone would want a vr version of the isle anyway, that sounds l...
VR is essentially a motion sickness device regardless of the software you put on it.
swift dew
@alpine pumice I think both are good but the official concept is more ripped so I want that one
alpine pumice
<@!247120154486374411> I think both are good but the official concept is more ri...
by the way is that even ok that I posted changed version?
swift dew
yeah
alpine pumice
ok thx, I was kinda worried about devs being mad
vale pawn
idk why, but i have the idea that the original on the left is the male, while the edited on the right is a female
paper oriole
I like the thicc muscular neck on the concept one more than a thin pelican neck personally
alpine pumice
I like the thicc muscular neck on the concept one more than a thin pelican neck ...
I think the pelican neck makes him more unique
also the rough, blocky shapes of neck looks good with his triangle back
and yeah I also think he should have much larger eyes than original one
paper oriole
I see the thin bird nexk on quite a few cheirus renditions so idk about more unique, but it does make him look like he wouldnt do as well in a brawl
He seems like he should be the type to be able to tank some blows in a defensive fight
molten tulip
VR is essentially a motion sickness device regardless of the software you put on...
Honestly yeah, every time I tried playing vr I just got nauseous instantly
patent garden
its just a shit version of a rex but yes it will add so much of the gameplay it will be so different, instead of being a rex it will be a disabled rex
paper oriole
tarbosaurus is what rex players who dont follow their diets while growing should become
night ruin
no, that's nanotyrannus
paper oriole
nanotyrannus is just juvie rex, which is where most rex gameplays should end 
night ruin
exactly
azure wadi
@solid wedge you literally just described a young adult rex
solid wedge
nanotyrannus is just juvie rex, which is where most rex gameplays should end <:T...
true
solid wedge
<@277248073397174273> you literally just described a young adult rex
yes i did, cause i think its a good idea to have fun while in game
azure wadi
We don’t need any new dinosaurs, especially one that’s just a clone
There’s nothing unique about tarbo and shouldn’t be added
glass mulch
Oh god not tarbo
we have already had this conversation 2000 times in here
Tarbosaurus is just a SLIGHTLY smaller T.rex
with a SLIGHTLY different jaw
that is it
that is the difference
solid wedge
fine how about Metriacanthosaurus
paper oriole
But why
solid wedge
but why not
paper oriole
Kentro will have other predators
Magy was preyed on by hatz but thats not a reason to add it, baryonix lived with iguanodon but they probably aint adding that either
paper oriole
I mean its coming back at least
They released a concept of his remodel if you havent seen
urban flax
Yay Tarbo suggestions are back
I can bring this up again
hoary dawn
the eagle?
urban flax
The picture
paper oriole
People seem to overestimate haast a lot
hoary dawn
@dire peak
paper oriole
glacial quest
the koola looks so weird
glacial quest
i don't get the hype behind a lot of things lol
but koola really looks like... idunno, maybe the paleos should double-check that the bones are where they should be? 😅 it looks so messed up
paper oriole
To be fair some animals do just look fucked up
glacial quest
fair yeah
zealous violet
@normal shuttle They need that suggestion for all dinos! A lot of the extra animations are just so darn slow
blazing charm
I'm still waiting for the day when a Tarbosaurus suggestion actually brings something interesting to the table.
glacial quest
#general-feedback message
Wouldn't it just be better if stamina regeneration rate was modified by food/water fullness to some extent? Obviously not so harshly that it can reach 0%, but to the point that the player is reasonably incentivized to not get too hungry/thirsty.
viscid harbor
Just on somebody saying Utah’s are too popular, won’t this just correct itself when more dinos are released?
urban flax
Yes
glacial quest
Yeah.
urban flax
@viscid harbor You say you want something to do as an adult... and then you give objectives with bonus growth speed as a reward. It makes very little sense, you know ?
Ah no I misread
Still, random objectives spawning isn't that interesting either
Have you heard of diets and perks ?
lethal quartz
@viscid harbor lolno
anyone who says otherwise isn't a vet and hasn't been playing this game before the twitch streamer craze that happened in late 2018
the only way to correct it is to give like, human players missions and incentives to kill certain dinosaur species en masse
and even then their numbers will just climb up again unless if the devs hard-nerf a species or something of that sort
glossy matrix
Rex clone
urban flax
Daspletosaurus xD
People sure do like having a lot of generic big carnivores
Like if rex, giga, acro, alberto and allo aren't enough, they feel compelled to ask for caracharodontosaurus, saurophagnax, daspletosaurus and tarbosaurus
lethal quartz
Gotta agree
glossy matrix
People sure do like having a lot of generic big carnivores
Like if rex, giga, ac...
sauro is literally just allo too lmao
lethal quartz
At least presto is kinda unique for a community carnivore option, but these generic rex/alberto/allo/giga/clones... why
devs should just release species skins to make it stop.
urban flax
I'm pretty sure they said once they wanted to do that, but it won't come until a very long time
spark fog
Daspletosaurus xD
Why do you think marine reptiles are a bad idea? They could work as Ai
glossy matrix
what????????
spark fog
in general feedback
urban flax
Why put Ai in an environment that has no playables ?
spark fog
i guess they plan to implement mosa
urban flax
I hope you're wrong
spark fog
so it would back sense to add aquatic dinos
there was an underwater sound they leaked
everbody thinks its a mosa
urban flax
Go play beasts of Bermuda or The Depths if you wanna play as a fish
Ye I've heard it, that doesn't mean they're going to add a playable mosa
That really could be anything, maybe just ocean ambience
spark fog
why so butthurt all of a sudden chill XD
i dont mind, but the development is anyway far in the future
glossy matrix
Go play beasts of Bermuda or The Depths if you wanna play as a fish
the depths was a scam
im pretty sure
urban flax
They once talked about adding an ocean dlc, but that's a preyy bad idea in my opinion
glossy matrix
i think the guy ran with the money
spark fog
no way o.o
spark fog
that wouldnt be very new for the isles devs XD
glossy matrix
scams, scams everywhere
ashen wasp
Mhm— anyways, I am hoping for some more water-based playables like the Mosa teased in the concept art— maybe with a mangrove forest, or a reworked shore with ocean fish for pterosaurs, AI crustaceans along the beach for a shorecombing playable, beached carcasses, coastal edible plants, etc
spark fog
same but i dont think that we will see such a development in the next two years
ashen wasp
Fingers crossed, with Deino and Petra having laid the groundwork for more flyers and swimmers
safe galleon
What’s up with the bad creature suggestions lately
Why are they making a comeback now
barren zephyr
What’s up with the bad creature suggestions lately
erm people who do not know how the game works
the bunch which ask questions in the wrong channels despite the glaringly obvious signals that they are not the right channels
Cherry reinvigorated hope for tarbo
So they're running with it
molten tulip
glacial quest
No idea. But the suggestion will probably be outdated as soon as nesting is added anyway, as I understand it will be fairly different from legacy's system.
full torrent
what the fuck does diets have to do with anything i said
I like the suggestion.
normal shuttle
what the fuck does diets have to do with anything i said
That about removing the problem of people just spawning and idling until they grow. That they need to move and interact
smoky harness
Didn't they like, say they weren't adding playable rex in a post or something? I see a lot of people want it, so they try to put dasp in there to make up for it.
normal shuttle
Diet already will do that
limber hull
no no
you misunderstand
think about like, a ptera
when it is spawned in
it can survive all the way to growth without a single bite of food
normal shuttle
Yes
limber hull
yes, diets will improve helping with the idling
but id like immediate objectives upon spawning
normal shuttle
But doing that in the future won’t be good for growing fast
limber hull
???
normal shuttle
Not eating while you grow
limber hull
it means you are born with an immediate objective
normal shuttle
You will need to move around and eat your preferred food
limber hull
keeps the game interesting
yes, i know about diets
but thats not the issue im solving here
because diet or not
ptera still can grow to adult without food
normal shuttle
Which I don’t find bad, since the game is still in development, the roster isn’t full, theres a lot to implement and balance...
limber hull
im also not suggesting we starve the babies, they dont really need much to eat to survive
normal shuttle
In the same way carno can take teno with less than 5-6 bites
I mean, unless you are doing that only for ptera and also without exaggerating it, it is going to be an issue
limber hull
im unsure how this will be a real big issue
normal shuttle
Have you played Update 2 when it came out? Did you see carno starvation?
It was an absolute pain
Most of them would struggle finding food
And won’t survive until they reach adulthood
Maybe you should only suggest that for ptera, but in my opinion the rest should stay as they are. The Isle isn’t even a full game, I don’t really care about it. I see the game right now as a test or demo about how it would be when the roster considerably increases its size and many mechanics are added
full torrent
Maybe you should only suggest that for ptera, but in my opinion the rest should ...
Yeah starving before you reached 25% was rough
glossy matrix
That'll just make the game even worse for hatchlings
hatchlings are already just worse versions of the adults
they dont need any more nerfs
sonic mural
@rare granite that basically happens everytime a dino is added but since Utah got juvi pounce it’s actually fun to grow as one so ofc there would be a overpopulation of them
@chilly matrix laying down so ur hunger won’t drain as fast is just afk growing and makes the game boring
fallen path
What do yall think of this?#general-feedback message
dire peak
<@!393092800952008714>
hi
chilly matrix
<@!627933781482930182> laying down so ur hunger won’t drain as fast is just afk ...
its realistic though but yeah i agree on that
oak tapir
@barren zephyr
You said that legacy had different individual animations and that evrima doesnt
I Think that is coming since well , you arent gonna see a juvie rex walking like it weighs 8 tons
Hopefully they do
HEAVY?!
stego breaks its ribs
drifting radish
Oh! It’s bilinili! Those guys are great
zinc rivet
@flat crypt idk if anyone told this to u already but honestly that Deinocheirus is a good representation of the IRL animal. It's probably a bit beefier and the hands might be too chonky but it's not like it's straight up inaccurate like many other members of the roster, Cherry is done really well
drifting radish
LOVE that little highlight of red/yellow on the inner eye going towards the bill. Only flaw i think would be the white while its great aesthetically its terrible for survival in a dense jungle like the in game map. makes you stand out like a bright flashing "im here" sign. maybe something similar to emus or ostriches.
safe galleon
well cherry doesn't really live in the jungle
drifting radish
no, its the swamp techincally but same thing applies in big very green swamps
white in water still stands out like a sore thumb
patent garden
admittedly the cheirus is essentially a “do not fuck with” animal so it’s not like it’d really need camouflage lol
paper oriole
it would definitely need a transitioned juvenile skin so it isnt a bright white dinner bell while it's still small
drifting radish
that could work tbh, though i think while its an apex things like giga/rex/spino (unless they get balanced correctly -- not that im counting on it bc when is rex ever?) it'd still need it to some level
but with skins im sure it'll get messy anyways hahaha
molten tulip
I would like that cherry skin even better if it had goth stripes
This is terribly done slapped on stripes but something like this maybe
safe galleon
pee and bad creature suggestions are making a return 
normal shuttle
if we dont get his bigger brother we arent getting pee 
safe galleon
could also work :D
normal shuttle
also, why tarbo and daspleto suggestions after deinocheirus being confirmed and also devs saying that the roster is full?
honest sparrow
also, why tarbo and daspleto suggestions after deinocheirus being confirmed and ...
Because people like clones
quiet estuary
Tarbo suggestions occur due to the fact that they lived with deinocheirus
Not sure on daspleto
glossy matrix
what
urban flax
That's a stupid reason tho
glossy matrix
Tarbo suggestions were here long before Deinocheirus was announced
glossy matrix
Not sure on daspleto
Daspleto is from America
quiet estuary
The resurgance in them is occuring because of the deinocheirus announcement
paper oriole
Deinocheirus shouldn’t be eating anything that requires chewing, look at it, it shouldnt be scavenging rotting carcasses and bones
It should be eating fish, small dinos and water plants
Chewing bones would make more sense on iguanodonts, ceratopsians and pachycephalosaurs, which would be kinda cool but isn't really necessary
fiery wraith
what? don't rl crocs eat those big savanna buffalo things?
paper oriole
Deinocheirus, not deinosuchus
Of course deinosuchus should be eating who ever he can beat up lol
molten tulip
Cheirus would not be able to tear meat off a corpse
It could swallow tiny corpses whole though
drifting radish
Alternatively instead of chewing bones (because it has a bill... when do u ever see ducks throating bones) minerals found in rocks could work. Since they’ll be cave systems calcium deposits could always be found in them. This would work mainly for herbis anyways. Car is get it from the meat they eat, herbis don’t get that source.
And for things with horns it’d work fabulously. You need a lot of it for their horns like irl deer, caribou, moose anyways.
*carnis
molten tulip
Yeah as part of the diet system I hope they add mineral rock things that you can lick/eat to maintain health/growth/regeneration
worn pumice
what? don't rl crocs eat those big savanna buffalo things?
Buffalo is the big savannah thing lol
drifting radish
Yee, water buffaloes
paper oriole
dammit another suggestion about ptera picking up small dinos
it doesn't have a good gripping bite so how it it gonna carry anything more than a compy lol
glossy matrix
game moment
paper oriole
can only get so ridiculous before it just looks bad
glossy matrix
game moment
molten tulip
In ark the feet don't even grab the animal, the animal just teleports between its legs and floats there
low canopy
would have some comedic value on picking up juvi stegos
glossy matrix
game moment
paper oriole
ok buddy you've said that 3 times
molten tulip
Yeah just leave pteras as spectator mode, they don't even need that ability
paper oriole
it shoudl look good
molten tulip
Skimming is way more fun
glossy matrix
then make it use the claws on the feet instead of the mouth
paper oriole
it would look fucking dumb to have a ptera picking dinos up, it would deplete from the feel of the game
molten tulip
Their feet are literally just pieces of paper
paper oriole
lmfao look at pteras feet it can not use those
their feet are like little bowtie pasta
upvoting your own suggestion 
molten tulip
Going to GET you
glossy matrix
game moment
hoary dawn
nobody wants ptera to pick up stuff.
vast wolf
anything ptera could grab with those little weak feet it could just stab and swallow whole.
fiery wraith
I think that'd be cool but the weight threshold would have to be very small
hoary dawn
if the grab and drop niche does ever come to the game it should be applied to a flyer that makes sense for it
fiery wraith
are we getting any flying besides ptera and quetz?
hoary dawn
iirc there was talk of adding 1 more that was smaller than ptera
but at this point idk
jaunty quartz
Why is the community dino so ugly?
safe galleon
because the real thing was ugly
quiet estuary
Deinocheirus was an ugly animal
hoary dawn
was, is, and always will be
paper oriole
looks better than the spino though lol
molten tulip
The spino design is unlovingly ugly
paper oriole
deinocheirus is at least good ugly, in fact i wish it was even more ugly
but spino is just boring ugly
molten tulip
Yeah
clever thistle
deinocheirus is at least good ugly, in fact i wish it was even more ugly
yeah cheirus is good ugly
its a over-sized duck
honest sparrow
then make it use the claws on the feet instead of the mouth
Wow, it looks so good and necessary
normal shuttle
Ptera can barely grab a 50cm fish
how is it going to grab a juvi?
and I am talking about the beak
A ptera grabbing things with its feet like an eagle is like an elephant climbing a wall for me
glossy matrix
Wow, it looks so good and necessary
game moment
drifting radish
ywahhhhh, their feet are like.. tiny little baby hands. not eagle feet 
hoary dawn
game moment
just because its a videogame doesn't mean it should add in something that ridiculous
you could make that argument against literally any suggestion
molten tulip
Its just a video game make rex able to do a cartwheel please
sonic mural
Dang I wake up and see ppl calling deinocherius ugly, shush he’s beautiful
molten tulip
Its beautiful ugly
sonic mural
Lmao
drifting radish
@idle fiber im a little confused. we are getting those? if you mean pour all the work into just the previous dinos then ? ? no. its a back and forth like the ryhme. something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. sorta. besides the point LMAO
point is, we will get those dinos, but we're also getting soem great new ones that we can have fun with. something our grubby little hands can enjoy that wasnt in the old version.
idle fiber
I simply meant bringing them as the first ones, I am fully aware that In the future they will all became playable again. ( @drifting radish)
safe galleon
why?
drifting radish
right, but why? you dont enjoy getting these new dinos?
fathom idol
Im kinda happy seeing new creatures and not the once we have in legacy! (except for Carno, Utah and Stego, but even these feel very different)
idle fiber
right, but why? you dont enjoy getting these new dinos?
Well everyone may have their own opinion, but i believe that developers of the game showed us that these Legacy creatures, mostly, were doing really good job and everyone could find something for themsefes, these are just so classic species, how not to love them. I fully agree with decission of bringing the new one, but if there will be so much new one coming to the already long list of dinos we want to add to the game then the whole process will become much longer
safe galleon
how will adding the old ones take faster than the new ones?
glossy matrix
how will adding the old ones take faster than the new ones?
some of the models can be reused
safe galleon
some of the models can be reused
but the new ones already have models
and those old models will have to be tweaked aswell
low canopy
yea models dont look like a bottleneck what so ever
safe galleon
so old ones using the same models would take longer
glossy matrix
and Deino
idle fiber
how will adding the old ones take faster than the new ones?
You took it wrong, I am not talking about the speed of adding the new ones, however some of the models are really good as for nowdays and sounds effects are super good. I meant mostly the time for adding all, both new and old ones
safe galleon
is shant being added any time soon?
glossy matrix
Austro's old but it has a TSL model
icy lion
shant doesnt have a model afaik
safe galleon
same with cherry?
idle fiber
Few days ago there were no signs of Deinocheiraus
glossy matrix
same with cherry?
we dont know
dense wagon
shant doesnt have a model afaik
they're talking about the legacy model i think
icy lion
they're talking about the legacy model i think
which will clearly not be reused given that we got new concept art
dense wagon
which will clearly not be reused given that we got new concept art
yeah. so i don't know why they're arguing
safe galleon
we dont know
they are apexes, we are at no stage whatsoever near adding full blown apexes
dense wagon
pretty much all the sandbox dinosaurs are getting reworked. most of the survival dinos will keep their model though, i'm sure
idle fiber
Well deino is also an Apex as for now
glossy matrix
they are apexes, we are at no stage whatsoever near adding full blown apexes
deinosuchus' almost an apex
safe galleon
deinosuchus' almost an apex
almost
fathom idol
I would have loved to see the 14 species they teased at the beginning to be in earlier then the species we already know and love in Legacy but many of them are small so.. no point in putting them when they have the size of Hypsi and don't have to grow
glossy matrix
and stego is an apex
honest sparrow
Stego and deino are apexes
drifting radish
wait what
safe galleon
and stego is an apex
more semi apex
drifting radish
are we talking in general or rn in the game? bc neither are apex
fathom idol
Pretty sure Stego will be rip once Allo and Albert come in 😦
honest sparrow
Pretty sure Stego will be rip once Allo and Albert come in 😦
Why
glossy matrix
lol no
honest sparrow
Why would stego lose to allo and Alberto
fathom idol
Bleed...and hunting in groups. One utah can bring down a stego...what do you think Allo can do with its massive jaw
and claws
honest sparrow
Pretty sure the biggest animal considered a pseudo apex is Acro btw
drifting radish
since when did stego ever lose to a utah? unless youre shit at the game or already on your deathbed?
or a juvie, maybe
fathom idol
Stegos hitbox has been changed..
drifting radish
i fail to see how that changes anything
fathom idol
Thats why you don't see them that often anymore on servers right now
idle fiber
I just wanted to say that i feel like, instead of creating more and more of concepts of new species, it should be focused on adding dinos that requires less work so they may be added innshorter amount of time, we see in roadmap already done models of some dinos, not only teoodon or oviraptor, but OG cerato, dilo, etc. In Hope trailer we saw parasaurolophus, suchos, even brachios In one scene.
drifting radish
idk where u been playing, but the servers ive been on are just as bustling with stegos as always
cyan flame
I would imagine stego, despite all of it's issues, would have a better chance vs alberto and allo, them being bigger and possibly easier to hit than a utah. Besides, stats can and will change, and maybe stego will eventually get a proper attack and all that.
honest sparrow
- Stego is currently tuned down for the current roster 2. Both of those are far larger and slower, making it so stego has a far easier time hitting them 3. Both of those have no special abilities designed to take on far larger preu in groups like utah, iirc allo ks getting like a grapple to pin and idk what Alberto is gonna do
icy lion
I just wanted to say that i feel like, instead of creating more and more of conc...
the devs who create the concepts are not the same as the devs who put the dinos in game
fathom idol
Only playing on officials and only seeing utahs and carnos and and some lone tenonto's atm
safe galleon
I just wanted to say that i feel like, instead of creating more and more of conc...
I think you're really misunderstanding the development process
icy lion
additionally the development process has shifted to favor mechanics more anyway
idle fiber
Well, i guess you are not really getting my point
But nvm
Was just my loose evening thought during a gameplay
fathom idol
I do, but whats the point? I mean, every creatures will be reworked, they will never be working the same as they did in legacy
idle fiber
@fathom idol correct, i never said they will, Im sure all of them will become much better In recode version
fathom idol
And it doesnt speed up the game because they are adding all the new attacks etc
safe galleon
everything new and old already has concepts behind them, doesn't matter which are added first
idle fiber
@safe galleon well, as we recently saw, not everything since Deinocheirus is a fresh addition to our collection :)
safe galleon
what does this even mean
drifting radish
uh. sure its fresh? but its just concept art atm. no rig, no model, nothin
check the road map for the upcoming ones, youll see quite a few legacy dinos in there. (like pachy in the next big update)
idle fiber
I meant concept arts (not concepts) , i misunderstood your message @safe galleon sorry
@drifting radish well yeah, cannot wait for dilo and cera to come
solid wedge
i dont miss rexs
hoary dawn
it gon
hoary dawn
it back
my guess as to why its different is that seiza probably recorded that footage in a dedicated dev/qa server, both of which would've run better than your average public server
shame it dont look as pretty
fading fjord
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438507264278790154/848794183938473994/vid...
#MasterRace #TopGun #DeathComesFromTheSkies
bronze oasis
my guess as to why its different is that seiza probably recorded that footage in...
probably not
desert tendon
@safe galleon Dryo is confirmed to make its own burrows. I even asked filipe and he reacted with a thumbs up
hoary dawn
probably not
idk what else could be the reason
bronze oasis
dense wagon
uh. an allo is just a slower carno and a alberto is a bigger allo
ALLO IS JUST A SLOWER CARNO SADKJHSDKJ,HSDKJDSMNDSF
PLEASE
desert tendon
also @safe galleon they are working on burrow mechanics similar to the second suggestion you made. A large colony of burrowing creatures will be able to intertwine their burrows together to form a large system with multiple exits
I do like the idea of dryo "upgrading burrows" and i think the mechanics you suggested were interesting. However it seems as though they already have plans for it. I personally am on team dryo burrower but i find your ideas really neat and they are well thought out 
sudden hinge
@idle fiber all of those are coming to the game and most don’t need updated concept art
sonic mural
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438507264278790154/848794183938473994/vid...
But can we admire how good this fps is💀
swift dew
uh. an allo is just a slower carno and a alberto is a bigger allo
first of all, "allo is just a slower carno" is a stupid statement as they play VERY differently. and second of all, allo and albert are about the same size, allo might actually be bigger (oh yeah, and they also play quite differently aswell)
swift dew
@fringe flare hypsi was already confirmed to get climbing
fiery wraith
why are their so many places you can get stuck on the map?
paper oriole
When the two land preds are already forming megapacks all over the place i don't think destroying deino's playability to force more uwutah megapacks and carno 1 call spam would make the game “fun again”
brazen hedge
Crocs aren't that hard to avoid. Because of the last update, with new water mechanics it is easier to see a coming croc
flat crypt
deino is literally only a problem because it's the only "apex" carni people can play
and there's only 3 not-terrible-fighter carnis to play anyway
once the roster expands, deino won't be an issue
fading fjord
Its a phase.
fading fjord
and there's only 3 not-terrible-fighter carnis to play anyway
Wdym, not terrible fighter
flat crypt
i love ptera but it's not exactly combat god
paper oriole
Yeah all the people whining about how there's too many deinos or how deinos should be super mega punished for cannibalism and almost any other complaint against deino don't seem to realize there will be a bigger map and roster and running into a deino will be much less common
flat crypt
if you want to play a carni for fun fights, utah/carno/deino are gonna be your picks
paper oriole
Ptera can kill a lot of incompetent idiots though and the people who use it for that do everybody a favour
brazen hedge
if you want to play a carni for fun fights, utah/carno/deino are gonna be your p...
Well.. looking at the growth time - mostly utahs/carno
fading fjord
i love ptera but it's not exactly combat god
IT IS!!
#MasterRace #TopGun 
#DeathComesFromTheSky
flat crypt
Well.. looking at the growth time - mostly utahs/carno
there is that lol. but people who like apexes are gonna be used to that long-ass growth time at least
like, 99% of the problems people have with deino will go away once there's actually a reasonable amount of dinos to play lmao
as much as i personally do now find evrima more fun than legacy, i can see why people stay. having a wide and varied roster is good for gameplay
brazen hedge
^ Agree
fading fjord
there is that lol. but people who like apexes are gonna be used to that long-ass...
Theres a solution for long ass growth times, dont look at it, just play.
flat crypt
i don't have the patience to grow forever personally. combined with the fact i also just dont usually like big slow stuff, apex gameplay has basically never been for me
i can grit my teeth and bear it for stego tho. ily stego
brazen hedge
Theres a solution for long ass growth times, dont look at it, just play.<:TI_Whe...
Depends - growing is pretty boring, because you're brutally limited
fading fjord
Depends - growing is pretty boring, because you're brutally limited
Wrong.
brazen hedge
Prove it.
flat crypt
yeah ngl growing rn in evrima isn't very fun lmao. it's why i usually play ptera, because it's over in a flash
hopefully diets and perks making growing actually interesting
fading fjord
Growing not boring. Boom!
brazen hedge
Wow, that's a good argument! I was so wrong...
flat crypt
if only :(
desert tendon
Prove it.
@brazen hedge @flat crypt its practically impossible to argue with RUMO. Its so frustrating that you guys should just quit while u are ahead. I speak from painful experience
fading fjord
Wow, that's a good argument! I was so wrong...
flat crypt
oh im not taking anything seriously dw lol
paper oriole
I remember when Rumo went on an argument for literal hours about hypsi, at least i think that was him..
brazen hedge
oh im not taking anything seriously dw lol
Same
paper oriole
Literally 4 or so hours
desert tendon
I remember when Rumo went on an argument for literal hours about hypsi, at least...
yep
i was there
fading fjord
Hypsi love 
fading fjord
paper oriole
I got a headache from it and fled just halfway through
desert tendon
it was pain on a stick.
desert tendon
I got a headache from it and fled just halfway through
smart move
paper oriole
Yes the craven option often proves to be the best one
fading fjord
Its called, the KISS method:
Keep It Simple Stupid
No hard feelings, its not personal.
desert tendon
Its called, the KISS method:
Keep It Simple Stupid<:TI_Wheeze:7353432411756298...
...brain...hurt... wtf does this even mean
lmao
i dont wanna start an argument
thats the last thing i wanna do
so im just gonna stop lol
fading fjord
<:TI_Squint:467591086177648646> ...brain...hurt... wtf does this even mean
Someday you will understand, school is closed 2day.
paper oriole
Are people having that much trouble landing as ptera? I dont want an aim line intruding on my screen for such an easy mechanic
flat crypt
it's not that hard to land as them most of the time imo
i think if you're trying to land on a small surface it can be a little difficult to line up, as you can't always judge distance accurately. but like, you rarely need to?
most "perches" are just big ol rocks that are pretty easy to land on
brazen hedge
Or just land when you're few meters above obstacle
flat crypt
if they added a bunch of small perches specifically for ptera, or if landing in trees was a viable thing, i could see it being actually useful
but idk. so long as you're careful with your approach you can probably land fine, no matter where
paper oriole
Dont think ptera needs to have an ability tuned for treebranch landings, the perches in the art and map previews looked a pretty decent size as well
brazen hedge
Anyway, some practise and landing should be easy. No matter if the LZ is marked or smth
flat crypt
maybe a perk that specifically focuses on tree-landings, with a little marker for when you land
fading fjord
Pteras landing in trees is ez.
flat crypt
but that's really the only situation where it'd be necessary
fading fjord
Plz no markers
fringe flare
I don't see how pteras can land at all with the constant rubberbanding
brazen hedge
It is not that terrible anymore
Landing on ptera ≠ landing a jet
You don't have to move horizontally
And when terrain around will load, then rubberbanding disappears... In most cases
fading fjord
Ptera problems on trees will start, when a pachy rams at it and they (Pteras) drop like 🍌
flat crypt
i continue to be amazed with the issues people apparently have with flying as ptera??? rubberbanding aside it literally isn't hard at all
i think they nailed the flying system pretty well
flat crypt
one thing i do wish changed is that you didn't lose all your speed when ascending, in particular because you do slowly lose altitude. but other than that it's quite nice
fading fjord
one thing i do wish changed is that you didn't lose all your speed when ascendin...
Debatable.
brazen hedge
i think they nailed the flying system pretty well
Sometimes pteras can do unrealistic, sharp turns... But it is not a big problem
fading fjord
So can utahs.
flat crypt
Debatable.
for me the issue is mostly that even just giving space a little tap, so you maintain the same altitude, makes you lose speed
i like flying over rivers, tapping shift for a moment so i get up to speed. but eventually, you gotta gain some altitude or you'll be swimming. the moment you do that, even if it's just a brief tap, you lose all that speed
it just feels a little janky that you can lose so much speed by ascending like.... a few cm
flat crypt
shift is good for getting from one place to another fast. you don't need to hold it or anything. so long as you don't try and ascend, you'll keep that speed it gives you for a good long while
you can cross the map pretty easy by taking off high up, holding space for like, a second, and then just sitting back
paper oriole
Iirc it was stated that group body carrying would cause shit loads of lag and be a bitch to code
flat crypt
honestly a better solution to that would be to actually let you pick whether you body drag, or grab a food chunk lol
because rn if you're big enough to drag the body, no matter how slowly, you can't just grab a chunk and flee.
brazen hedge
It just needs separate bindings
flat crypt
mhm. simple fix, just a shame they've not done it yet
or even a tap vs hold system, seeing as that's something they've put in place in other ways
fading fjord
Might be fun, in the future, but do we need that stuff now? (Group drag)
brazen hedge
We want something, but we get some human buildings instead
flat crypt
i'd argue yes
right now if something bigger bullies you off a body, there's nothing you can do
i don't think the fact bigger animals can bully you off a body is an issue itself. that's natural. but the fact you can't take off with a scrap of food is a bit frustrating
brazen hedge
#DeinoStealedMyFood
flat crypt
literally lmao. i was a ~50% carno the other day, some land-deinos waited for me to kill a dryo ai before taking it off me. nothing i could do about that
fading fjord
Natural, yes, and you can always take off with a chunk of food, i reckon?
flat crypt
can't atm, but i wish
currently if you're big enough to drag the body, you drag it. no chunks for you
uneven wigeon
Bop it!
brazen hedge
Anyway, something simple as separate binding would be great xd
fading fjord
Ripping off an arm or leg would look nice, or maybe, while some other dino is grabbing the food and carrying it, other adults can take chunks of that? When using Grab key?
paper oriole
Hmm.. maybe the first dino to grab can pilot the pull and packmates who grab on after don't have control, sort of a vehicle passenger type mechanic
So there isnt the issue of people pulling multiple directions
fading fjord
So there isnt the issue of people pulling multiple directions
This would be hilarious
paper oriole
Yeah pulling it like spaghetti lol
flat crypt
Hmm.. maybe the first dino to grab can pilot the pull and packmates who grab on ...
that'd work a lot better a think. additional packmates are simply extra strength, rather than everyone having their own control
and ngl. it'd be kinda funny seeing a pack of utahs carrying a rex body lmao
heave ho, lads
paper oriole
Like ants carrying their big ass dead rodents and lizards
brazen hedge
Or field medics carrying wounded soldiers (xD)
fading fjord
Ngl, it could be a good feature, but...
molten tulip
Oh thats hard
brazen hedge
It would be nice, but it can't be bugged then. And from my experience I know that it would be bugged as fuck
fading fjord
Its not that my issue with it.
brazen hedge
I mean idea is good, but someone has to code it
fading fjord
Big corpses, that might turn into big carcasses, might be a part of the game, in the future.
For Tribals for example.
paper oriole
imagine the pain of coding that for so many bodies and so many body carriers, plus terrain and collision issues that would take place during the carrying
but hey at least they wouldnt be pulling the body in 6 different directions
paper oriole
two utahs: pick up a dryo
the dryo:
brazen hedge
^ I see a meat there, so everything is okay.
dry path
has there been any info on fixing key bindings? custom key bindings seem to be tricky to work...
fading fjord
has there been any info on fixing key bindings? custom key bindings seem to be t...
Visit #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 and check pinned msg, there might be a solution there.
fading fjord
two utahs: **pick up a dryo**
the dryo:
Noodles🍝
novel crest
anyone else feel like when they look at a full grown deino and look at all the shrubbery around it feels like its just the size of a regular alligator?
cause grows panel says its as big as a person
so either these dinos and people are just really small
or even shrubs are absolutley massive
flat crypt
i think they're just big bushes and stuff. we'll have a better sense of scale once humans are in
certainly, compared to human buildings you really see how big everything is
urban flax
How is it possible that 6 deinos annihilate anything on a server ? People don't know how to run ?
paper oriole
They were just killing other deinos i guess
urban flax
Where's the problem in that case ?
paper oriole
I don't see one lol there's too many deinos, let them kill each other
urban flax
The models are ugly
honest sparrow
If you brought back some of the older patterns/skins it would be really cool for customization
novel crest
man i just came over a hill in mid and there was a war going on between this pack of like 7 deinos 2 different carno packs and pteras spectating
hoary dawn
I don't see one lol there's too many deinos, let them kill each other
They always kill their own
barren zephyr
doesn’t matter if he’s hungry
honest sparrow
He always,
barren zephyr
Kills his
honest sparrow
Own
barren zephyr
^
hoary dawn
or not
barren zephyr
dragon fire
carmine bridge
two utahs: **pick up a dryo**
the dryo:
wh-how
vivid needle
hello, is there any aquatic dinosaur planned to be implemented that would live in the ocean ? cuz nobody can enjoy ocean/beach atm (except the concept art about the pteranodon I mean)
EDIT : btw the clouds look really nice
paper oriole
There was mention of a mosa a while back but idk if its still planned
barren zephyr
hope not
hollow minnow
Just gonna leave a quote from Wedge in the recent DevBlog ["To accompany the deep ocean ambience I have designed a selection of aquatic creature calls, previewed in the most recent phase two post, giving more life and atmosphere to the depths."]. Sound like no mosa to me. Just ambiance which I'm fine with.
flat crypt
it could be cool as something later down the line. for now I'd rather they focus on terrestrial gameplay being solid, rather than adding a whole new realm
hollow minnow
^
flat crypt
BoB was innovative and ahead of it's time with adding the aquatic realm. However, at least currently, it's a little lacking and frequently ends up feeling empty, because they're having to focus on land AND sea at the same time
in the case of TI, I think they'd be better off putting their resources into making the current gameplay fun and engaging before tackling an entirely new realm
urban flax
Plus the game is called "The Isle" and not "The Water around The Isle"
flat crypt
plus the current map, even if they spruced up the beaches, doesn't have enough to encourage overlap between land and aquatic animals
at least in BoB, the various land masses you need to travel between and floods mean the two realms often overlap, so the different rosters can interact with each other
at least with this map, that seems a lot harder to pull off
which would just make aquatic gameplay even more boring
urban flax
Yes, aquatics and terrestrials just wouldn't be playing the same game
There's already hardly any interaction between flyers (only ptera currently) and land animals... although they share the same environment
flat crypt
yup. when i play ptera I'll scream at anyone i fly over, and that's pretty much the start and end of any interaction with land animals lmao
hopefully larger flyers that can attack larger animals/smaller land animals that ptera can attack will encourage a bit more interaction
you could hunt hypsis as a ptera, but no one plays em
urban flax
And why hunt hypsis when you can just catch fish, which is much easier and fills more
flat crypt
yep. easier, less risky. just better
normal shuttle
Bushes can perfectly grow there
It’s natural
Just be careful where you step on and you will be fine
urban flax
@night coral Isn't the lag already bad enough with 100 people ?
night coral
@urban flax isnt there unoffical servers who can do it without lag?
urban flax
I don't think so
vivid needle
Just gonna leave a quote from Wedge in the recent DevBlog ["To accompany the de...
Thx that's what i thought
vivid needle
Plus the game is called "The Isle" and not "The Water around The Isle"
I see no point to forget that an island is supposed to be surrounded by ocean or sea : that is part of its nature, which implies lot of life, potential food and danger, instead of just ambience that would put danger (fun) apart.
I do not wish that we have ocean dinos (i agree that would be a complete other game), just some that are suitable for the beach and shallow sea water so those part of the island are not dead (like some crocs for example)
But that's my personal opinion here
urban flax
Playables for the beach is ok
For the ocean it's just a waste
vivid needle
Playables for the beach is ok
For the ocean it's just a waste
yup
hollow minnow
I agree with all of this.
ashen wasp
one or two ocean playables would be appreciated as far as im concerned, especially if theyre able to interact with more semiaquatic environments slightly inland, like the shore and mangrove swamps and such. im hungry for that Mosa in the concept art
azure echo
Any thoughts on giving an estimate of which species are being played before we pick?
ashen wasp
ehh, seems to me just like an opportunity to deliberately choose counters
urban flax
Not very useful
azure echo
ehh, seems to me just like an opportunity to deliberately choose counters
I suppose, but it would also give people an idea of what is and what isn’t being played, for me I would generally go for the least played because it’s diverse
And if people see that there is a server of 50 Utah’s then don’t pick a Utah
And sure you could counter pick, but isn’t that the point? To diversify the servers?
vivid needle
I suppose, but it would also give people an idea of what is and what isn’t being...
same but some ppl would go for the most pplayed dino in order to be with others (tho i like the idea you're proposing, our dinos are supposed to be "tracked" so it makes sense to me to have island monitoring)
hollow minnow
I could give or take that mechanic.. Feel neither hot nor cold on it.
azure echo
same but some ppl would go for the most pplayed dino in order to be with others ...
That would be a concern but it’s happening anyway so
vivid needle
That would be a concern but it’s happening anyway so
XD
azure echo
👌🏻
ashen wasp
A species count might be interesting for Mercs, accessing some island-wide database
hollow minnow
^ I'm more warmed to that version of the mechanic. Merc only access.
urban flax
Just prepick merc, then go back to selection and play a dino while knowing the populations
ashen wasp
ik their maps are only going to show the general location of Replicator-spawned playables, not the species, so a static terminal or some sort of collectible item that shows species count would be p cool
hollow minnow
I would want it on terminals you'd have to physically get to in game. Maybe locked by an access code you'd have to find first... However it's done; there are way to reduce misuse.
Can't eliminate it completely, though, so... The concern is valid.
vivid needle
I would want it on terminals you'd have to physically get to in game. Maybe lock...
or significant cooldown/timer after getting that info ingame, so you would have to play merc again
hollow minnow
or significant cooldown/timer after getting that info ingame, so you would have ...
I like it.
urban flax
Preventing people to play because they got some info ? Meh
azure echo
I’m just struggling to grasp why knowing who is playing what puts things at a disadvantage?
vivid needle
Preventing people to play because they got some info ? Meh
the less info you have the more immersive it is, having that info to find a group to join without making any noise is an unfair advantage i think
urban flax
Doesn't deserve forbidding people to play though
chrome oak
I need help. When I start the game and press I understand, I get to the discord. I am registered there and have read everything. if i go back into the game it won't go away so i can't get to the servers
vivid needle
I think it does, or would need something to prevent that kind of thing .. however we are not there yet
mystic pewter
alpine wyvern
@clever arch they already descend in the air with stam or not
hollow minnow
Preventing people to play because they got some info ? Meh
I was thinking more along the line of "You've gone to this location to get a keycode or data disc to unlocked for a short period of time the ability to see player count as a merc this playthough. You'll still have to go to another location with a terminal to use this info. and each time you log you'll have to re-get that keycode/data disc." Still abuse able, but we can make it more difficult to do so..
Or simply just not add it at all... It's just a neat idea but unnecessary.
urban flax
As long as it doesn't put you on cooldown for playing dino I'm okay with it
And yeah, not putting it at all seems to be the best option
hollow minnow
I'm cool with mercs having access to information that would otherwise give them an edge, but to a point... I've seen suggestions for a player count, and I've seen suggestions for a map with dino locations (but no info on the dino).. I'm cool with adding either of these with restictions, but not say both at the same time.
desert tendon
@alpine pumice hypsi is going to be able to climb trees. I even asked filipe about this and he said that it would be able to climb, but the mechanic would be different than herra. Though i do agree that the jump should not lose elevation when running
alpine pumice
<@!247120154486374411> hypsi is going to be able to climb trees. I even asked fi...
oh that's awesome
desert tendon
oh that's awesome
ye
i have a picture of filipe confirming this if any of yall wanna see it
hollow minnow
Good stuff.
desert tendon
@flat crypt i really like your ideas about burrows, but i just want to inform you that dryo is confirmed to be able to make its own burrows. This was another question that i had that filipe confirmed
i just want to make sure you were aware of that
fringe flare
I was thinking more along the line of "You've gone to this location to get a key...
I thought spawned dinos could be tracked, but hatched dinos could not. Something to do with the lore. But maybe that was just speculation
urban flax
@tight lantern That's the exact opposite. Ambush speed in legacy reduced the amount of tactics involved in hunts.
normal shuttle
Honestly I think ambush should never return, in my opinion it is just a senseless speed buff and also a pain for balance, because every carnivore then has two speeds to keep in mind
hollow minnow
I thought spawned dinos could be tracked, but hatched dinos could not. Something...
I was lead to believe the same as you. Obviously hatched dinos would not be included within any monitoring system mercs could access.. Provided the monitoring mechanic is ever added at all.
tight lantern
<@!327626524486402048> That's the exact opposite. Ambush speed in legacy reduced...
I could agree with that for Legacy, because it was all pretty much tail-riding, but in Evrima tactics differ and are more ambush-based.
urban flax
That's why ambush speed isn't needed
It doesn't even makes sense
You don't even have to hide and actually ambush your prey, since you can get a speed boost just by crouching for a few seconds
hollow minnow
You don't even have to hide and actually ambush your prey, since you can get a s...
Never did like that crap.. 
broken thorn
So let's discuss the ambush speed
Ambush speed could be a special ability for some ambush hunter carnivores. I don't think all carnivores should have it. Perhabs Allosaurus and T-Rex could have ambush mechanic
honest sparrow
Na
broken thorn
balanced to a way so that there aren't any crouch fights
Im completely up for not having it in the first place
i hated ambush
but if "ambush" ever returns, it should be only for a handful of dinosaurs, or like 1
jovial moss
It shouldn't return at all
If you wanna ambush something then be stealthy don't abuse a random speed boost
mental marlin
confused as to why people downvoted the guy asking for a better hypsi , the one we have now is litterally a wasted slot
low canopy
dw the votes mean nothing regardless
urban flax
What they updated legacy again ?
urban flax
You know how Legacy updates work though, right ? They can't undo it
And if they try to fix it, it will probably break 10 other things
scarlet fog
They have a backup from the previous version for sure.
They just need to upload the previous version again to steam
urban flax
It's not that simple
Uploading a version of a game to Steam is a process in itself that can break things
Full melee merc build, yes
tropic spear
can someone help me, i clicked reset on my keybinds and now they are gone and i cant play the game now
stoic totem
@celest void To buck, I believe it is E. To chat, hit Enter and start typing, when you’re done, hit Enter again
celest void
Thank you 
urban flax
can someone help me, i clicked reset on my keybinds and now they are gone and i ...
You should post this in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
tropic spear
You should post this in <#723260797719019620>
its not in evrima its in the normal isle
urban flax
Legacy troubleshooting then
hoary dawn
recode wen?
drifting radish
@gritty hedge it’s been out for almost a year
torn cedar
hoary dawn
neat
left nacelle
@barren zephyr If they made it so you couldn't hurt pack members, that would allow Utahs and other animals to just dog pile their prey without having to coordinate, since they wouldn't need to worry about hurting each other. A better alternative is to make it so you do less damage to group members. Which is already planned (It might actually be in game now, I can't remember)
urban flax
It is already in-game
barren zephyr
could someone point me to where is the new way to have evrima and legacy at the same time?
The old way apparently does not work anymore
barren zephyr
<@456226577798135808> If they made it so you couldn't hurt pack members, that wo...
I see gud point
Wait are humans being added to Evirma?
urban flax
Yes
Please don't tell me you don't want them because you want The Isle to be the perfect dino sim
fading fjord
Not added more like invade 
fiery wraith
I'm excited for them but I'm sure different mode's will exist where humans wont be there.
urban flax
I guess unofficials will be able to disable them
But that'd be getting rid of an important aspect of gameplay
honest sparrow
Unofficials will be able to disable factions
So I can wait for the cod deathmatch servers
urban flax
People are gonna enjoy their dinosaur-free game
swift dew
@clever arch wdym they should "loose height" when not flapping their wings? they do loose height lmao
clever arch
They should lose more is what I'm saying.
urban flax
They're gliders tho
gritty helm
Ambush speed could be a special ability for some ambush hunter carnivores. I don...
I think a mechanic where creatures (both herbi and carni) can reach top speed near instantly at the cost of a shit load of stam would be far better than an "ambush" mechanic but even then I don't think its necessary
urban flax
The point of having wings is to stay airborne
gritty helm
ptera's should not be losing more height than they already do lmao
urban flax
@plush rampart Debuffing nocturnals during the day ruins the advantage of having a good nightivision
And giving them artificial buffs isn't necessary since they already have the advantage of a better eyesight
swift dew
plus most nocturnal hunters will already just be overall weaker than other animals but they make up for it with good nv. like dilo is probably not going to have that good speed or agility so it will have a very bad time against carnos during the day
plush rampart
I see what ur saying, I was proposing it for an instance like this: Imagine a pack of Utahs hunting during the day, then night falls. They're effectively rendered useless to the predator watching them at night.
A group of Dilos hunts during the night, but don't really have that same disadvantage from the time difference so they just keep going
copper flax
Something else to note is that in legacy some dilo players already logout when it’s daytime, and wait to relief until night. Giving them a straight debuff in daytime would make more people just leave the server until nighttime comes back.
urban flax
They have to count on their sight advantage to ambush prey
As piggy said, a dilo will probably be slightly weaker than an identical-sized animal
swift dew
I see what ur saying, I was proposing it for an instance like this: Imagine a pa...
but that is what makes a dilo, a dilo. they are defintly going to be slower than utah, less agile, its venom doesn't work during the day.
plush rampart
if thats the case thats kinda dumb lol, I think Dilo should have better stats than utah bc its obviously bigger
swift dew
or at least is much weaker
plush rampart
not sure what dilo is looking like for stats rn
swift dew
if thats the case thats kinda dumb lol, I think Dilo should have better stats th...
well dilo is going to be stronger than utah, but it is definitly not going to have very good agility or speed, making it a much easier (and more filling) target for other predators like allo and carno
urban flax
I don't know about a Utah, but a dilo will surely have a hard time against a pachy during the day
honest sparrow
Nocturnals shouldn’t be nerfed or buffed during the time of day, it’s just their stats give them the advantage at night
plush rampart
yeah I see the point
I'm not fully aware of how this whole venom thing is going to work so maybe that already does the job for them
honest sparrow
Venom is probably the equalizer
plush rampart
makes sense, I would just hate to see night time boys get a bad rep bc they just charge into battle during the day or something
hasty dagger
Why the X on my Allo suggestion Piggy
swift dew
because I dont like the old allo
I know its just bringing "parts" of it for the elder
but I still dont like the old allo
hasty dagger
Fair
desert tendon
@granite nimbus quetz is confirmed, but nothing else is. I wish there were going to be things like dimorphodon and "monkeydactyl" but alas they are most likely too small
hasty dagger
I have a few fliers I think would be cool but this roster is already overflowing
barren zephyr
@granite nimbus We got Quetz, Ptera, and one other unidentified species.
granite nimbus
it would be nice to have other species to add diversity to the flying dinosaurs 🙂
paper oriole
i hope we get fruit bat tupa
safe galleon
Last 3 messages in feedback channel are 
paper oriole
two empty suggestions, one is already planned, and one response that shouldnt be in the channel at all lmao
left nacelle
@pastel bloom Titanoboa is planned, but it's one of those "We'll put it in the game if we can" things, and it's not a priority. Since it's very tricky to make snakes in games, let alone make them look good when moving over terrain
pastel bloom
<@!389649097025388549> Titanoboa is planned, but it's one of those "We'll put it...
Well yeah it'll take alot of work but it'd be amazing
left nacelle
Well it could also be a pretty boring creature depending on what they do with it
A big snake sounds cool, but it might have trouble defending itself, it probably won't be very fast, and compared to other animals in the game it isn't very large at all
It would likely be pretty low on the food chain
And on top of that, if they go through the trouble of making the model, animations, and sounds, and it doesn't end up working well in the end, it could be a lot of wasted money. Each animal in the game costs $7k+ to make iirc
pastel bloom
So is the new dino for legacy or evrima
left nacelle
Well Legacy is dead now, it isn't gonna be updated anymore
And it's gonna be deleted before too long
pastel bloom
So what dinos are getting carried over?
hybrid matrix
So what dinos are getting carried over?
all except pue sadly
pastel bloom
When will that happen?
left nacelle
Plus we're getting most, if not all, of the old scrapped dinos like Styraco and Plateo
Well it'll happen slowly overtime
pastel bloom
Is the quetzel going to be a thing?
hybrid matrix
Is the quetzel going to be a thing?
yes
left nacelle
They can't just take all the dinos and plop them in, they need to remake their models, sounds, animations, add new mechanics, make sure the ecosystem is balanced etc
pastel bloom
Will it be able to pick dead dinos up and fly away with them?
pastel bloom
What about live dinos and drop them??
pastel bloom
Ooooo me like hopefully that's a thing
left nacelle
It likely won't be able to pick up anything bigger than a utah tho
If I had to guess
pastel bloom
I mean ruining a carnos day sounds nice tho
left nacelle
Yeah but carno is waaaay too big to be picked up. Plus it would be pretty annoying to spend hours growing a carno to just be picked up and dropped and bam dead
pastel bloom
Tell that to the cannibal crocs you spend 5 hours growing just to be killed by your own kind
left nacelle
Deinos don't really kill adult deinos often tho
Plus cannibalism will make you sick in the future. Likely next update
pastel bloom
Good will it poison or will it be like over eating?
left nacelle
I think it'll just debuff you idk. Probably like overeating but without the vomit I assume
pastel bloom
I didn't play legacy that much are spinosaurus good at swimming?
left nacelle
Not in Legacy
But the new spino will run on the bottom of lakes like a hippo
Legacy didn't really have any semi-aquatic things. Except for sucho having the ability to swim slightly faster than other animals
pastel bloom
Ohoh that'll be a problem for crocs
left nacelle
Yep. But it'll only work in deep water since spino is big
pastel bloom
Is there going to be anything put in the ocean?
left nacelle
Yeah eventually
There's gonna be crab AI, ocean fish, and Punch said that animals who live along the coast are a possibility
pastel bloom
What about playable ocean dinos like the mosasaurus
left nacelle
Well mosa does exist in the game's lore
But if ocean animals are added, it'll likely be dlc
pastel bloom
That makes sense hopefully it's not as janky as Beasts of Bramuda
left nacelle
Oh it definitely won't be. Dondi is a big perfectionist, and the devs in general want the game to be really high quality. That's why evrima exists
pastel bloom
Will there be any big apes added sorry I forget the name of it.
hybrid matrix
Will there be any big apes added sorry I forget the name of it.
no
left nacelle
Apes? Nah just dinosaurs and reptiles
hybrid matrix
there will be the what-are-they-called
left nacelle
No mammals. They'd be pretty out of place and would get destroyed in the ecosystem
hybrid matrix
the eyeless
left nacelle
Oh yeah the "cannibals"
hybrid matrix
CANNIBVAlS trhats what they called
pastel bloom
Maybe there could be an ice age dlc all that jazz
left nacelle
Nah. Wouldn't make sense with the games lore imo
glossy matrix
cannabis in the isle
pastel bloom
When will humans be added not that I want to play as one
pastel bloom
How so? Do you mean playing as one and going up against dinos or are they gonna be OP
glossy matrix
How so? Do you mean playing as one and going up against dinos or are they gonna ...
playing as one
left nacelle
Both. A well prepared human could easily take down a rex if they have good aim, the right ammo, and the right gun. But also playing as them will be scary
glossy matrix
I'm probably going to play exclusively human because they dont have to grow to become fun
left nacelle
But imagine walking through the jungle as a dino and hearing gunshots in the distance
pastel bloom
Hey Gojira is a good band
glossy matrix
The band is named after the monster
pastel bloom
Will you be able to play as a cannibal?
left nacelle
Yeah likely, but you won't be able to just pick it and play as it, you'll have the unlock it iirc
pastel bloom
Will it be wicked fast the concept art makes it seem that way
left nacelle
Yeah they're fast, can climb walls, and are very stealthy
They can also crawl on all fours
pastel bloom
How would you unlock them I haven't had this game long and don't understand that system
left nacelle
No one knows
The devs used to call them "cannibals" to throw us off an make us theorize how to unlock them, but we don't know their actual name
pastel bloom
Well they look like wendigos
left nacelle
That's probably just coincidental. Plus wendigos all look different lol
pastel bloom
I'm playing evrima right now and if your not expecting it a carno roar right next to you can scare the daylights out of you...
left nacelle
Yep. Ya gotta constantly be looking around. That's one of my favorite things about the game
pastel bloom
Btw the body stretching bug is still there
left nacelle
Yeahhhh. It's a hard bug to fix iirc
pastel bloom
I'm glad I won't be a space cadet anymore tho
left nacelle
Yeah, that bug was horrible
pastel bloom
I lost a fully grown deino because of that shame you cant get them back
left nacelle
I like a ~30% one. But it's something you gotta expect with early access games
pastel bloom
If I got stuck how would I resolve that
left nacelle
If you got stuck in terrain? Well if you're on an official server, I believe you can ping one of the admins and they can help you. But unofficial servers, you gotta contact one of their admins, and if they don't have any, you're screwed