general-feedback-discussion

[worn pumice]

i dont get what any of this has to do with trample dmg

trample dmg will do nothing but improve game experience

any issues with it can easily be fixed/changed

[still sinew]

@sacred quest As a random effect? So people what? Customize their skin colour and then when dropped in the game - whoops - you got albinism/melanism/leusism(ect)! Have fun playing with this skin that's been forced on you! Then the player kills off their dino so they can respawn as the colour they wanted to be in the first place. Seems like a cosmetic thing that players should be aloud to choose not a game play feature that would just cause the players that don't like it to just go "uhg okay lemme try and respawn. wasting my time. an avocado thaaaanks"

[barren zephyr]

Look man, i just dont want to be that guy from JP2 that got stuck on the rexes foot ok, dont know what else to say

[mental marlin]

i agree

[worn pumice]

well it'll be ur fault if u get trampled by it

[urban flax]

Some dinos will have to realy heavily on trample damage to kill small attackers

For example a rex against a pack of utahs

[swift dew]

brachi vs compy

[sacred quest]

i was thinking about it as a nesting thing not related to normally spawning in but a bit later im going to make a alternative suggestion based around it. Maybe either having it as something you can choose after making it through life a certain amount of times without any debuffs or have it have no debuffs at all and it pretty much is a rare occurrence with no gameplay advantage .

[urban flax]

Even if it happens only when being nested, it still sucks

Albinism is already a debuff in itself

[barren zephyr]

Still i like how the game is without the trample damage

[worn pumice]

cant know the enjoyment of a mechanic if its never been implemented

i cant say i love the isle w/o diets if its never added

[urban flax]

You're gonna hate it when you'll play a big dino without trample and get swarmed by tiny raptors that you can't reach

[sacred quest]

that is true thats why im going to make one suggestion that it could be option you can decline if you dont want it.

[urban flax]

Don't make it a random option.

That's all.

[barren zephyr]

Oh believe me, i played some annoying games

[worn pumice]

yea but trample still isnt in the game

u cant know if u'll enjoy it if its never even been added

[urban flax]

Dondi once said he wanted albinism to punish cannibals, which is a really good idea in my opinion

[worn pumice]

make cannibals albino with like red eyes

[urban flax]

And some cannibals like cerato and deino could have the option to spawn in as whites since they won't turn albino from cannibalizing

[worn pumice]

Exceptions being actual cannibal dinos like ceras

[barren zephyr]

I guess it will have to be play tested and see what kind of stuff trample damage will do, either it being a good thing or a bad thing having its own horrible situations

[still sinew]

If it's a nest thing and you could just decline it then what's the point? Might as well just let people be customize their Dino before hatching - instead of giving them half arsed agency in what they look like. More often than not if you hatch as similar colours to your parents you don't like it/it's ugly regardless. /shrug

[desert tendon]

why do people not want ptera to collect water while skimming?

[urban flax]

Because that removes the risk from drinking

Basically the only risk ptera takes in its entire life

[static niche]

lol true

[desert tendon]

skimming is risky, so is scavenging food

[urban flax]

Skimming isn't risky at all
And you're never forced to scavenge

You're not even forced to skim to get fish if it's too dangerous

[desert tendon]

@barren zephyr dont respond in that chat

[barren zephyr]

I mean.... its still a suggestion sooo

[desert tendon]

i dont understand how it relates to what i said tho

[still sinew]

naw dood that's big trubl

[worn pumice]

hatchling pteras prolly wont fly anyways

[urban flax]

They can already fly

[worn pumice]

hatchlings

[urban flax]

I doubt they'll get that ability removed

You're a hatchling when you're 0% grown

[worn pumice]

no thats a juvenile

[limber hull]

i kinda like the idea of hatchlings having to sit in a nest for a while

[worn pumice]

devs already stated this

it looks super small but thats a juvi

[urban flax]

That's a juvenile model

[desert tendon]

yes

[limber hull]

it's cool

[desert tendon]

the main reason i want the pteras to collect water while skimming is so they can give it to their chicks

[rapid arch]

every time i get nitro do i get free 2 boost or only first time?

[worn pumice]

they'll prolly come up with a different system for hatchlings to get water honestly

[still sinew]

still not the right place my dood

[barren zephyr]

I think that question belongs in the offtopic

[rapid arch]

oh sorry

[worn pumice]

wrong chat still but im pretty sure its only the first time

[limber hull]

the question with that is, if you spawn weaker as an egg dino, what's the point of being an egg dino? Surely there'd be some benefits to juxtapose the reliance on parents

[worn pumice]

having parents is pretty good

[desert tendon]

ok how about this

[limber hull]

parents is cool, yea

[urban flax]

Maybe some perk inheritance

[limber hull]

i def would like to see inheritance

[worn pumice]

just the fact of having two adults protecting u is quite a good trade

[desert tendon]

once eggs have been gestated, the female unlocks the ability to carry water in their beak and baby bird it to the hatchlings

either that or it could be a perk

[fading fjord]

Exactly

[barren zephyr]

Maybe 0% juvies will be replaced with hatchling and you will get additional precentage (like you get 10% when you spawn in without being hatched in )

[fading fjord]

Pteras, atm, dont need water or food while they grow, only by the time they get to fg they need it.

[still sinew]

so you want a growth boost just for being hatched?

[desert tendon]

no its the opposite

when you arent hatched, you would start at 10%

[barren zephyr]

exactly

[desert tendon]

i want beipi chicks to sit on the parents backs like geese

[fading fjord]

Coding mess Rex, imo

[still sinew]

considering that atm players don't spawn in NEARLY as small as they would hatch as - that's probably already planned.

[worn pumice]

i mean filipe did say he likes challenges so

[desert tendon]

i didnt suggest it, spooks did

but yeah

[fading fjord]

👍

[still sinew]

eeeyeah I'm clearifying

[worn pumice]

one day we might just get things like that

[desert tendon]

seeing as how beipi chicks are probably gonna be downy and not very great at swimming at first, i think it would be fun and cute for the parents to carry them around. Hell i think things like crocs should be able to pick up bb crocs without hurting them

[barren zephyr]

It could maybe extend the growth time to be the same as if you started as 0% like now

[desert tendon]

maybe the beipi can "pick up" the chicks and the animation is just on their back instead of in their mouth

[still sinew]

there will likely never be any carry child mechanics in game.

[desert tendon]

but whyyyyyy

[fading fjord]

Its a challenge for sure, happy, the main issue with it, might be the interations with the other species, but for sure a neat idea

[still sinew]

too much likely hood for greifing

[desert tendon]

they would only allow the parents to pick them up

like creatures that are related to them in some way like siblings

[barren zephyr]

i think they said it would be to op, but i think it was directed to the deinos

[desert tendon]

ah

[still sinew]

Sorry man- devs already said no.

[barren zephyr]

It could maybe have a pick up request, like do you wanna get picked up

[desert tendon]

[still sinew]

already be suggesting liek 100's of times and shot down

[desert tendon]

alright i guess

[barren zephyr]

Yeah i know

[static niche]

because the devs don’t know how to have fun

[still sinew]

cause the devs know that players can't be trusted

[static niche]

[worn pumice]

their right tho

players and a lot of em r ass holes its just how it is

[still sinew]

I love how wholesome innocent folks are like - lets carry bbys it'll be great what could go wrong --- and I'm just like awww you sweet summer child

The isle community is like 60%; KOSers, cannibals-- 20%; lonewolf, git gewd, elitists-- 10% players that are nice but not very good-- and 10% players that are nice and good at the game xDD

[fading fjord]

Lmao

[limber hull]

i would absolutely carry my son if allowed

[still sinew]

See Rumo laughs cause they're in the 20% lolo

Wave you're too good for this world

[limber hull]

i played a game where i was an adult raptor and i had two baby raptors which were my mates

and every time i ran away, they would follow me and spam the help call

[mortal basin]

portable dinner is what i call that

[limber hull]

it was very realistic family

[fading fjord]

You dont know me, you that i am like everybody, you dont understand me, so why judge?

Im laughing because you talk about KOS & Cannibals and shit

[limber hull]

didnt you say this exact same line once before

[urban flax]

You're not like everybody if you're in the 20%

That would be if you were like the 100%

[fading fjord]

Im not like that 20%

[still sinew]

100% of The Isle players play The Isle

[urban flax]

Lol a"bad" deino players get killed and "good" deino can kill a carno with 1 attack

[worn pumice]

[fading fjord]

Debatable

[wary sparrow]

100% of the isle players play the aisle

[fading fjord]

Good feedback

[still sinew]

Lol a"bad" deino players get killed and "good" deino can kill a carno with 1 attack or something liek that -- that's elitism

now who did I read saying thaaaat hmmmm

[fading fjord]

Wrong it is, to put Elitism in that sentence.

[urban flax]

I did

[still sinew]

Lololo I'm dead

[limber hull]

lmao

[still sinew]

and yet people still keep suggesting it.

[limber hull]

but the devs said yes

[still sinew]

lookin into the idea mean 100% yess - got it

[agile shuttle]

@barren zephyr Literally just said that in #general-feedback XD

[golden beacon]

@barren zephyr Fish in the ocean, rivers and ponds back on land

[agile shuttle]

Ik but still XD

[golden beacon]

There will be fish in the ocean by the time that comes out you do realise that?

[agile shuttle]

Oceans big lol

Ai in there

Goodness

Amount of Lag I can expect XD

And we're not talking like Apex fish either

[golden beacon]

Hello people want humans to be able to build things that will lag the game if everyone just starts building stuff

[agile shuttle]

Even if the schools of fish were png's

Ya, but they're not active entities/assets ingame lol

Actively moving Ai

[golden beacon]

It will be like the ones in the rivers??

Yeah they move

[agile shuttle]

In rivers lol

Not oceans

The rivers are small nuff

So of course it'd work

[swift dew]

there will be fish in the ocean eventually

[agile shuttle]

We can expect in the very far future yes

They even want a Ocean DLC that is totally not in their radar atm

But thats like.... 5 years time if they even get to it XD

So many new animations and asset models

[swift dew]

mercs wont build things anywhere, they will fix the existing human buildings. tribals however will be able to build anywhere, however they aren't humans so no humans will not be able to build anywhere

[agile shuttle]

Well thats what he sorta meant piggy

[golden beacon]

i think thats dumb they can build little box forts and shoot arrows out of it

[agile shuttle]

I mean its not dumb if thats whats making u live another day from things that would love to eat you in a min

We don't live in the artic to JUST hide from wind and rain/snow XD

We do it to hide from De Polar Bears m8 haha

Saying that we don't get to choose too

Just sayin lol

[golden beacon]

Yeah but build anywhere they can just build random stuff across the map making it look all crappy and it could lag the servers as everyone gonna be playing them when they are out

Well almost everyone

[agile shuttle]

Well servers will get to choose what we already know, but for those servers yes we will see. Plus we know to a certain degree it won't be Arc

Building

[urban flax]

Not letting tribals build is even more stupid tho

[agile shuttle]

U gotta be at least 10%

Running away at least

[urban flax]

If there's only premade villages, then there are only a few places where tribals can be

And evrybody will just know these places

[golden beacon]

Why play as a human when we are humans lol

[urban flax]

This is stupid reasoning

[agile shuttle]

Cuz its not everyday someone can shoot a dinosaur in real life XD

[golden beacon]

True

Ill shoot some birds does that count?

[agile shuttle]

I mean if u wanna go Viral on chicken killing sure lol

[golden beacon]

The isle gameplay

i just find it weird that we have tribals who can build boxes or forts and just throw stuff at dinos, imma just open the door as a utah XD

[full canopy]

what if Herbies grew faster on a full stomach and Carnies on an empty one? making carnivores able to risk it for the biscuit and providing herbivores with a more engaging playstyle?

[urban flax]

Who said they can build boxes ?

[full canopy]

Radical, I know

[golden beacon]

no one but just saying

[urban flax]

Why encourage players to go around with an empty stomach ?

[agile shuttle]

Oh boy here it comes

[urban flax]

Why encourage only carnies for it ?

[golden beacon]

Scientists, make it happen

[full canopy]

Because Carnies don't have a readily available food source making it risky to leave prey alone to grow faster or making you stalk it until hungry

while herbivores don't have anything to do rn so having them constantly searching for food would be a way to fill out their life

[urban flax]

Exactly
They don't need to be encouraged to go with an empty stomach since that's already part of their gameplay

[golden beacon]

Carnis will have a hard time with the diet system, because we wont have as many players playing herbi, but we dont gotta worry about that now rather later when more herbis are released and they are viable

[urban flax]

And getting growth speed buffs from having an empty stomach... seems just counter-intuitive.

[golden beacon]

crispy 😋

[full canopy]

idk, I think it would be neat

if you eat less, stay a bit hungry you grow faster

i find it interesting

[golden beacon]

how tf does that make sense?

[full canopy]

its a video game, thats how

[golden beacon]

If you are stressed from the hunger you will not grow faster

[vivid needle]

I was thinking about stuffs that could be intersting for the game, is it the right section to share it ?

[golden beacon]

^

[vivid needle]

thanks 🙂

[urban flax]

A video game needs to make sense tho

[full canopy]

Bruh, to an extent sure, but this would hardly ruin the game because its so immersion breaking

[urban flax]

Heavy attacks don't deal less damage than light attacks (except in the Elder Scrolls Online but that's stupid)

no

[honest sparrow]

Emotes that can be done together were mentioned by dondi

But I think it’s more or less you agree that you make a neat and hat should be that

More like pachies doing a bit of ramming or whatever but I guess...?

[full canopy]

and if you desperately need the game to make perfect sense and be scientifically accurate(which it isn't) just say that the carnivores are on a "diet", staying fit and alive.

[golden beacon]

Bruh its not even trying to be accurate its just common sense

[full canopy]

Did you know crocodiles can live YEARS without eating? How can we POSSIBLY know how dinosaurs lived and ate?

[golden beacon]

Its not like they got a buff from it or whatever and yes it is a video game but everything grows at a certain speed and shouldnt be able to alter the growth times

[swift dew]

crocodiles are also cold blooded meaning they don't need as much nutriets. second of all, that is just bad game design

[golden beacon]

sheeesh

[swift dew]

your literally incentivizing people to not do anything and getting rewarded for it

[worn pumice]

2 years w/o food and water wow lol imagine not eating for 2 years

[golden beacon]

This is some of the confirmed dinos coming to the isle and this isnt even all of them so isle gonna be hands down the best dino survival game out there once its complete

[golden beacon]

Something we tryna avoid as well

Can i ask, whats killing brachi? look at its weight

[urban flax]

Giga

[swift dew]

gigas

[worn pumice]

gigas

[golden beacon]

Im guessing its gonna be hard for them tho

Or will they just bleed it lol

[urban flax]

Probably both

[worn pumice]

i mean

[urban flax]

They'll bleed it but it will be hard

[worn pumice]

u'll prolly need like

4-5 gigas tbh

[honest sparrow]

Like a shit load of good gigas

[swift dew]

nah, 2-3 good gigas will be able to take down a brachi. they have to play very well though

4-5 gigas should be non-existent

[worn pumice]

nah 2-3 gigas is too little

brachi is 37.1 tons

[golden beacon]

Idk why but i wanna play as pachyrhino lol

[worn pumice]

well it'll be coming so

[golden beacon]

Or plateo

[worn pumice]

eventually we can all play as it

[swift dew]

ok and? gigas were built to hunt young sauropods, which translates into the game as 2-3 gigas taking on a big sauropod. but like I said, they have to play extremely well

[worn pumice]

still tho no

[golden beacon]

few years gotta be patient

[worn pumice]

2-3 is too little

[urban flax]

Remember giga is an apex

[worn pumice]

actually the real issue

[urban flax]

Getting 3 gigas in one place will be hard

[worn pumice]

is finding 3 gigas in the first place

[full canopy]

... what? It would incentivice riskier gameplay, don't eat yourself full. Which indirectly incetivises more pretators to stalk they prey while purposfully not eating until they have to.

[urban flax]

This isn't legacy where you're getting hand-fed by AI

[full canopy]

in no way is it rewarding passive play

[golden beacon]

dude you forget that other relatives of giga specialised in hunting sauropods and giga is just like them

[urban flax]

There are better ways to incentivize stalking prey

[worn pumice]

2-3 is still not enough especially 2

think about how long brachi will take to grow

no one will grow it if it can be threatened by 2 gigas

[urban flax]

Maybe brachi won't take 12 hours to grow tho

[golden beacon]

A rex going for a trike or a shant is riskier gameplay not wanting to starve just to grow thats just stupidness, if im half hunger im going to get food because im not taking the chance of finding nothing later

[urban flax]

If it can be taken on by 3 gigas, then it's gonna have a growth time to match it

[worn pumice]

in that case sure

12 hours is too long tbh

i hope it doesnt go over 10

[full canopy]

Just saying. You said you don't want to risk it, thereby admitting that it's rewarding taking risks

don't see how thats bad Game design

[urban flax]

This is literrally telling players "no, don't eat. Don't do the most evident thing to do to survive"

[golden beacon]

Because you are starving yourself its not a risk its just you taking the slightest chance that you can find something and if you can kill it or not in time

[full canopy]

literally a risk

[golden beacon]

and all you get out of it is a little faster growth

[worn pumice]

whats the original suggestion? keeping low on food to grow faster?

[full canopy]

do you not understand the concept of risk?

[golden beacon]

Yes

[urban flax]

for carnis yes

[worn pumice]

sounds counter intuitive

[golden beacon]

Someone else said that lmao

[full canopy]

Agreed, but I think it could incentivice fun gameplay

[worn pumice]

guess we all agree then

it sounds like a way too risky way to play

[golden beacon]

Yes sitting in bush get hungry grow fast eat go back to bush repeat is fun gameplay

[urban flax]

If you agree that it's counter-intuitive you shouldn't be defending it at all
That's literally bad game design

[honest sparrow]

I really doubt they’d change allo calls, it’s had it since like 2015 or something

[worn pumice]

none of the calls really changed at all in evrima so far

[golden beacon]

They might alter it a little

[worn pumice]

the only thing thats changed is stegos 3 call

which is much better now

[honest sparrow]

Possible but eh

[full canopy]

Yes, that is how simple the idea of game design is.

[worn pumice]

in evrima

[urban flax]

What ? So you're agreeing that you were wrong ?

[worn pumice]

it rly isnt a good idea to try n stay low on hunger to grow faster

doesnt make sense

[golden beacon]

No it doesnt

because why would you want to be hungry

[full canopy]

lol, no I was being sarcastic. While I understand where y'all are coming from I just don't think it being a bit counter intuitive makes it a bad idea.

[full canopy]

idk, ask people on diets

[worn pumice]

so u agree its counter intuitive?

[golden beacon]

Since when were people on diets hungry? People that go one diets try to lose weight

[honest sparrow]

People on diets try to lose weight or do it for personal reasons, and even then they still eat their fill

[urban flax]

You gotta learn the basics of game design then

[golden beacon]

Like seriously diets?

[full canopy]

I literally study game design at Uni

[urban flax]

How can you not see the problem then ?

[full canopy]

Literally a little hint at the corner of your screen could explain this

and then everyone is up to speed

[urban flax]

The best is to have mechanics that don't need to be explained

[carmine path]

Im confused on what the argument is here

[golden beacon]

I dont think anyone wants it and i dont think they will use it

[worn pumice]

intentionally starving to grow faster is just kinda stupid

[golden beacon]

Get hungry grow faster = dumb

[urban flax]

The better you eat, the better your overall health. This makes sense and doesn't require additional explanation.

[full canopy]

I don't expect the devs to implement this obviously but for arguments sake I think its interesting

[urban flax]

It's interesting as a counter-example

[carmine path]

Question: Why would starving make you grow faster when lack of nutrition can stunt your growth for any animal irl?

[golden beacon]

If im hungry im gonna eat burger and feel better

[full canopy]

"I don't agree, its different from what I'm used to and I hate it"

[worn pumice]

no it literally doesnt make sense

[golden beacon]

Yes thats what we are saying

[wintry monolith]

there will be fish in the ocean and they can just do a 5 min trip for water

[honest sparrow]

Eat according to diets= grow faster
Don’t eat=grow faster

hmm

[carmine path]

Just gonna put this here

[worn pumice]

literally ur saying not eating will make u grow faster

[golden beacon]

lmao

[wintry monolith]

yeah

[golden beacon]

You literally get skinny when you dont eat

[worn pumice]

^

[golden beacon]

Your getting smaller not bigger so you are putting on no weight

[carmine path]

Then Malnutrition and it can stunt your growth 😅

[full canopy]

I'm not saying you need to starve, just a multiplier perhaps.

[worn pumice]

carnis will be low on hunger a lot anyways this would just make them grow faster for no reason

[worn pumice]

.

[full canopy]

also using the scientific argument is so invalid since the game takes creative liberties from reality all the time

[carmine path]

Well shouldn’t people who eat more quantity of food and eat their diets in plenty grow faster?

[carmine path]

Creative liberty to an extent their not gonna defy the laws of absolute nature about food

[full canopy]

The diet system is probably gonna be fine guys, I'm just thinking out lout here.

At the end of the day its a video game, if making it unrealistic makes it more fun, that isn't a bad idea

[urban flax]

Unrealistic yes
Illogical no

[carmine path]

Unless you take Realism and throw it into a blackhole

[wintry monolith]

ahh yes lets encourage afk growing by making creatures grow faster by not eating, wait thats just what diets are fixing afk growing

[worn pumice]

5X multiplier when starving

[wintry monolith]

see how this dosent work

[carmine path]

What is this is Ark

[worn pumice]

u mean the ark of the covenant?

[carmine path]

Why not

[worn pumice]

its usually a gold covered box

[carmine path]

[worn pumice]

it contains two stone tablets within

[full canopy]

in this scenario you would never want to eat yourself full though, meaning you can't be afk

[worn pumice]

usually relates to the bible

[golden beacon]

100% if you have 0 hunger

[full canopy]

Its literally a fix to incentivice more risky (and active) gameplay

[worn pumice]

[carmine path]

But you want to starve overall?

[worn pumice]

its not active

[golden beacon]

i know i dont wanna die of starvation

[wintry monolith]

jornan, your not going to die on this hill youll get crucified and been seen as the worst suggester ever

[worn pumice]

it makes u stop doing things so u can get to low hunger

for a multiplier on growth

[carmine path]

Alexander the Great time

[full canopy]

people really are narrow minded

[worn pumice]

no its just ur suggestion isnt good

[carmine path]

And your really not smart

[full canopy]

wow, good argument agains my suggestion dude.

[golden beacon]

This many people saying no to your suggestion and we are narrow minded? ok bud

[carmine path]

Thank you! I really appreciate your honest feedback!

[full canopy]

bruh, I'm not saying my suggestion is the only right answer. What I'm against is how you're suggesting it's innately a bad design choice.

[carmine path]

It is a bad choice.

Plain and simple

[full canopy]

If you could somehow motivate it, feel free to

[urban flax]

That's not like everyone here already gave you a ton of arguments about why it is bad...

[worn pumice]

didnt multiple ppl just tell u why its bad

[full canopy]

So far I've seen 2 arguments that were actually distinct

1: it's unrealistic
2: it's not intuitive

[swift dew]

3: its just stupid

[urban flax]

I'm starting to see a common pattern here
Someone comes up with a terrible idea, more and more people come to explain why it's bad, the first person doesn't listen, they get tired and stop arguing
Then You have no arguments lol

[full canopy]

this literally isn't an argument

[golden beacon]

Thats like me saying we should motivate covid to keep spreading

[worn pumice]

[carmine path]

The Isle has been getting rid of AFK growing for a long time and at last they found a solution to so so. Diets. They provide an incentive to active growing and risky moves by going after specific prey. AFK growers get punished with many debuffs. Your suggestions goes against this completely incentives towards starvation to grow faster instead of doing a regulated diet allowed AFK growing after the player fills up for awhile

[urban flax]

Maybe we should change subject before going uncivil
There's been a new suggestion in general feedback

[swift dew]

it incentivizes risky gameplay

[full canopy]

My counter-arguments would be:
1: unrealistic doen't mean bad
2: It might not be super intuitive but It would add layer to gameplay that doesn't exist now

when you kill something you would have to balance your hunger with effeciency in growth

if you choose to not eat yourself full theres an increased risk of starvation

[urban flax]

@vivid needle I like the part about rex calls, but I don't like the one about playing a lot of dinos at once. This is really too far away from the game's gameplay. How would hunger, thirst, growth and health work in that case ?

[carmine path]

Malnutrition is just staring you in the face and saying “Fuck you” with distain on their face

[golden beacon]

Bro i lost the human population amount of brain cells by reading your messages

Seriously your IQ must be lower than your shoe size

[carmine path]

I like that one

[full canopy]

Yes, it's unorthodox. But saying "its stupid" just shows either a complete lack of skill in debate or that its not that stupid

not to mention its rude

[swift dew]

but it really is stupid

[full canopy]

but this is the internet so...

[golden beacon]

Its stupid, even the US president will say its stupid

[carmine path]

That’s a low blow for my country...

[golden beacon]

Sorry 😔

[wintry monolith]

he has a to big ego or just narcissistic to realise hes wrong

[carmine path]

But you’re not wrong...

[full canopy]

It's literally game design, its art. there is no objective "wrong"

sure it can be disliked

but it can by definition not be wrong

[carmine path]

Its objectively wrong logically

[full canopy]

you're using both those words wrong

[carmine path]

Wonder what happened to that guy

[golden beacon]

one of the laggy gifs

Bruh

[full canopy]

I get that it CLEARLY was very offensive of me to suggest it, but come one guys

[swift dew]

his name was meme

[urban flax]

<@&401466542140817419> there's someone called @rich owl sending crash gifs in here. I guess they deserve a ban

[carmine path]

@vivid needle I don’t really see a hive mind working in the isle it turns the game into an RTS

[vivid needle]

Hey i'm glad that u feed back ! good questions, i have not thought about that as there are always tricks :

food, you only have one pack so when you eat or drink, even if it does not look like they all are eating, drinking, the whole groupe does. Same if you get attacked, some get injured, some die, whatever it is a pack or a mob

If it makes sense to you

[wintry monolith]

1. it might mean bad and 2. The gameplay layers that are coming will be enough and if you need to do this much brain gymnastics its not worth it

[carmine path]

They can see chat logs sorry bud your gone

[severe idol]

I see.

[urban flax]

For sending repeatedly a gif that crashes discord

[golden beacon]

Because we tryna discuss and you send laggy ass gifs

[wintry monolith]

i fought i was being hacked or smt for a second

[golden beacon]

Yeah i saw a gif that crashed my discord

[wintry monolith]

but then i realsied his shitty as car gis came every time my dc crashed

[severe idol]

It's fine.

[terse hornet]

well, looks like they're gone now, back to our usual programming

[vivid needle]

Well as I said it's capped to maybe 10-12 dinos so it's not that "hive" . Idk it's feels new and fresh to me ^^

[worn pumice]

thank god i left

those crashing gifs suck

[carmine path]

I can find one just for you

[vivid needle]

I had other ideas but the post was too long :/

[worn pumice]

[wintry monolith]

1. it might mean bad and 2. The gameplay layers that are coming will be enough and if you need to do this much brain gymnastics its not worth it
   [

[golden beacon]

you keep it up 😄

[severe idol]

Those gifs are a very good example of why I want to disable all of them on the server, but that's a different discussion. lol

[wintry monolith]

they are fun sometimes

[carmine path]

Then we get crash videos 😎

[worn pumice]

disabling them is sounding better and better every day but anyways back to feedback discussion

[golden beacon]

fun to troll friends not random people having the most serious discussion obviously

[urban flax]

Haha he got angry at me and dm'ed me

[carmine path]

Big mad

[golden beacon]

lmao

[urban flax]

I took a screenshot but I can't find it

[wintry monolith]

yeah this convesation is as important as climate change

[worn pumice]

lol

[golden beacon]

100%

[swift dew]

anyway, @vivid needle I like your first rex suggestion, I think it would be really good if at least the F call for rex was a low rumble, since that is how they communicated. Though I do not like the swarm suggestion, The ambient sound one is also pretty good, though idk how how hard it would be to add in.

[carmine path]

Oh ok

That’s cool

[swift dew]

probably should delete that

[wintry monolith]

mature.

[urban flax]

He probably doesn't know there's a block function in discord

[carmine path]

He seems nice

[golden beacon]

Kids here we have an example of manners, manners mean everything

[urban flax]

And that gifs don't launch when you open another program
I'm used to handle trolls

[worn pumice]

lol

[carmine path]

He is obviously a well mannered person

[full canopy]

Anyway going off now, have a nice day. Can’t say I feel good about being called stupid but I get it, being anonymous makes you say things.

[golden beacon]

kk bye

[wintry monolith]

your so fucking self centerd...

[carmine path]

Bye person who we disagree with

[swift dew]

👋

[golden beacon]

100%

[vivid needle]

Sure, thx for feedback 🙂 Idk either how things work but you never got answers until you ask or suggest.

Idk if it could work like the same way footsteps sounds work, but it would be random on the map ? maybe ?

[wintry monolith]

it makes my skin crawl

[carmine path]

If we simply stop talking the admin will disappear

[full canopy]

Sorry can’t leave without answering whatever this was

[severe idol]

Incorrect. I'm always here.

[worn pumice]

[carmine path]

Well there is always alternatives

[urban flax]

That's a scarejump

[carmine path]

Bit mixed up but sure

[golden beacon]

I would leave and not make it worse

[severe idol]

Discuss a point of General Feedback or take this over to #401470471750811669 please.

Or DMs. DMs are nice.

[worn pumice]

u guys still discussing the low huger suggestion

[carmine path]

Deino strong Stego Strong

[worn pumice]

i thought were past that

[carmine path]

Feedback

[worn pumice]

ight les do sum real feedback: Deino should take stam when it alt bites

[swift dew]

fine I just make a map suggestion so we can keep talking

[golden beacon]

Awww

[carmine path]

Some people wanted to reduce stamina regen on deino more while on land 😭

[worn pumice]

unnecessary

[wintry monolith]

comon

[golden beacon]

I wanna make feedback but i got nothing

[urban flax]

Does deino even regen stamina when on land ?

[carmine path]

Did triangle man get sniped?

Guess not

[worn pumice]

no

[wintry monolith]

yeah

[worn pumice]

it does regen on land but its like

[carmine path]

It has the slowest stam regen in game

[wintry monolith]

no

[worn pumice]

hey lets talk about deinos stunning stegos and then spam alt bite

[carmine path]

Alt bite good stego bad

“Balanced”

[worn pumice]

how does stego always get abused everytime lol

i swear every update its like yes its fixed but its not

[carmine path]

Stego used to be the abuser

[worn pumice]

carno u mean

[carmine path]

Now than little bastard can’t fish no more cause it gets tanked to death

[worn pumice]

carnos riding stegos tail

[carmine path]

Deserved

Let the Stego Rebellion Fall

[worn pumice]

player deserved? absolutely
Dino deserved? no

[urban flax]

I'm gonna go back on my first (or second i don't remember) suggestion ever on this server
What about adding a stagger effect to every attack ? To eliminate facetanking

Basically here's my reasoning :

[carmine path]

Then you can face tank more and stun lock them into stagger effects

[worn pumice]

^

ig it would work if there was a cd between the stagger

[urban flax]

There's light stagger, medium stagger, heavy stagger and stun
Every attack deals some stagger damage
If it exceeds one threshold of your dino, it gets the corresponding stagger effect
Light stagger prevents you from doing an attack but nothing else
Medium stagger cancels attacks
Heavy stagger prevents you from moving during the whole animation (less than 1 second though)
Stun is the same as currently with tenos tail slam

If an attack doens't reach the threshold, your dino doesn't react and can facetank

[worn pumice]

wait does tenos tail still smack carnos to the floor

[urban flax]

I'm not sure, I think it's bugged

[worn pumice]

i think it is as well

cuz i dont see why it would be removed

cuz i havent seen carnos biting through it

so like the stun plays but it might not play the animation cuz its bugged

[urban flax]

So you don't like my stagger idea ?

[worn pumice]

me?

i like it

[urban flax]

You and pyro
Anyone who reads that actually

[worn pumice]

although maybe with fractures they have something planned

so who knows

[south kraken]

Unpopular opinion: pteradon's bite should bleed

[urban flax]

It's already strong enough as it is

[worn pumice]

it does

[urban flax]

Is it a new thing ?

[worn pumice]

idk

biting a small small croc makes it bleed

[urban flax]

Cause last time I played ptera it didn't do bleed (it was before last patch)

[south kraken]

No it doesn't

[vivid needle]

Not sure it doesw

[worn pumice]

ok well either way it doesnt need it

[south kraken]

It would make ptera a viable and fun bird to play

You'd actually be able to hunt things other than ptera

[worn pumice]

no it would make it op and not very fun for other dinos

ur not supposed to be hunting anything lol

[urban flax]

Bleed is something very strong

[azure flint]

is any of you guys experiencing a thing where if you glide it goes backwards?

[worn pumice]

its a glider and a fisher

not a hunter

[urban flax]

It allows easy tracking and forces the prey to stop fighting in order to heal its wounds

Since you already can't really fight back against a ptera...

The only thing that saves bigger things like stegos and deinos is its low damage and absence of bleed

[honest sparrow]

Giving Ptera bleed means you can literally never escape it or fight it

Imagine being bled out by things you can’t fucking hit

[worn pumice]

juvi utahs abusing deinos collison be like

[urban flax]

I've done things in my life that were morally questionable

[worn pumice]

i think we all have

[south kraken]

Escaping and killing a ptera is the easiest thing

Go in a bush

[vivid needle]

Slipping on mud and dry grounds as you pursue a prey or go on slopes could be fun 🙂 (you could fall, brake a leg whatever) lightweight or 4 legs dinos could benefit it whereas faster, heavier 2 leggs ones could not

[worn pumice]

ah yes the fat deino must hide in the water from a ptera so it doesnt bleed to death

nothing should be hiding from a ptera if its full grown except hypsi

[urban flax]

It isn't supposed to be able to take on big things tho
And if it gets bleed it's gonna be straight impossible to escape one

[worn pumice]

why do u want to make ptera something its not it doesnt need bleed

[urban flax]

And by big things, I mean anything bigger than a hypsi

[worn pumice]

its literally a fisher and glider

[south kraken]

I'm not talking about one tail shot makes you bleed out, I'm saying 10 headshots should at least make you dribble a few drops

[worn pumice]

its a living spectator

[urban flax]

No point of giving it bleed if it's so weak

[south kraken]

Yes there is

[worn pumice]

no there it isnt

its not a hunter

[urban flax]

If something survives more than 3 hits from a ptera, it means you're not supposed to hunt it

[worn pumice]

ptera is actually the best balanced creature in game rn

along with teno

[south kraken]

You're saying a lot of things, but giving no reasons for those things

Why shouldnt pteras be able to hunt small animals?

[worn pumice]

its a fisher and a glider

[south kraken]

they are carnivores

[worn pumice]

what more do u need lol

[urban flax]

It's not been designed to

[worn pumice]

it has a specific niche that it does pretty well

[urban flax]

It would be OP

It would be extremely unfair for the prey items

[south kraken]

not if you dont make it op

[urban flax]

It already has other things to eat

[worn pumice]

u cant change a dino just becuz u want it to do something its not designed to

[urban flax]

Not making it op means not giving it bleed, it's as simple as that

[south kraken]

The only thing it can eat is fish which are abundant and fill you up way too fast, not fun at all to play if you aren't a birdbath simulator roleplayer

[worn pumice]

ok dont play it then

[urban flax]

^

[worn pumice]

thats the niche

living off of a fish and gliding

its not for everyone

[south kraken]

Ok thanks for the great conversation guys

[worn pumice]

personally ive killed a few juvi dinosaurs anyways ptera is as good as it is rn

[urban flax]

If fish are abundant and you fill up that fast, why would you want to hunt anyway ? This was done on purpose, you know

[south kraken]

You really changed my mind with all those facts

[worn pumice]

doesnt need any changes

being sarcastic isnt helping anything

[urban flax]

Well even the wisest words fall short to an unlistening ear

[chilly slate]

Piggy, why not multiple of them and not choosing? Seeing a boneyard in a marsh would be cool

[swift dew]

you dont have to choose one, you can react with multiple.

I didn't realize the wording was off, I fixed it

[chilly slate]

Oh i see what you mean

[hybrid matrix]

@urban bear all of the things you said (except for global, thats probably only coming back via mods) are gonna be customizable in the future

[swift dew]

@thorny lynx sandbox is returning, its not high on their priority list. also no etas that is rule 10

[hybrid matrix]

on the one hand thats asking for an ETA

on the other hand, i want sandbox

i am divided

[honest sparrow]

It will come when it comes

[hybrid matrix]

isnt this punch's response to ETA's? I remember a dev saying something like this a while ago

[urban bear]

the devs said they want it to be as customizable as possible it shouldn't be through mods it should just be a server setting

[honest sparrow]

It probably is

[hybrid matrix]

the devs also said that global is only coming back if u mod it in

[hoary dawn]

nuff said

[hybrid matrix]

@worthy portal it was a mistake to make the tailswipe take up so much stam but don't be an asshole about it

[golden beacon]

Awww not much people saw my idea ;-;

[urban bear]

Other than global we need a way to contact an admin so we can play on rules server which majority of the community does

[hybrid matrix]

discord

also

wait no nvm

just discord

afaik that is

[urban bear]

In game

I’m not gonna tab out and dm an admin because some guy is killing me breaking a rule

[icy lion]

punch has mentioned that an admin dm/ticket system is planned

[urban bear]

That would be great

[hybrid matrix]

@wintry monolith if u fall off a cliff then u either deserve death or u jumped off on purpose since the recovery takes less stam than taking off normally

so either way

if u fall off a cliff and die then u deserve it

[golden beacon]

I do it to save stam

[hybrid matrix]

same

unless im not near a cliff

[golden beacon]

you can do it off of trees as well but theres a risk you can hit the ground so i pick tall palm trees

[wintry monolith]

it could be an server setting for noob friendly servers

[hybrid matrix]

except this removes the learning curve

[golden beacon]

Why should everything be a server setting

[wintry monolith]

customisation

[hybrid matrix]

imo noob friendly servers should just tell u the basics (controls, grow times, etc) and then plonk u right in

[golden beacon]

You can just look at guides, tutorials and the controls

[hybrid matrix]

i kno
im saying that ppl can also use discord to learn this stuff

[golden beacon]

Noob friendly servers will just attract more experienced players as well as thats what people usually do

[hybrid matrix]

this just makes learning faster bc of experienced players shitting all over new guys

[swift dew]

They should have a tutorial that plays when you open the game for the first time. gives you the basic controlls, and then sends you to the main menu and everything proceeds as normal

[hybrid matrix]

YES

[golden beacon]

True

[wintry monolith]

that would be more of like an tutorial so like first thing you see when you click the play button it comes up "do you want to play an tutorial" and this tutorial is SP where the game tells you the general controls and then you can chose waht dino(s) you wana deep dive into and then they put you into an offical server

[golden beacon]

Yeah like a prologue

[hybrid matrix]

no
no playing tutorials
written tutorials

this should be a test that u cant practice for

well

u can practice for it

but u have to do it b4 u actually have the game

[cyan flame]

Need proper information on how the game works too, plus maybe a tutorial for keybinds/settings, that might be helpful. But actual information in game is needed.

[golden beacon]

Soon there will be sandbox servers to train on

[hybrid matrix]

this is exactly what i said

[hybrid matrix]

also this is true

[cyan flame]

@hybrid matrixI would say a ingame tutorial on basic controls + a show on how to change keybinds (because apparently people dont know thats a thing..), and then written information on how critters/mechanics and all that works that you can look up at any time.

[swift dew]

soon

[wintry monolith]

yeah that was what i was trying to say, you get the option for a walk trough with first generic carnivore(utah) and then a walk trough with generic herbi (dryo)

[golden beacon]

A year or so

[wintry monolith]

and then you can mabey have an walk trough for every dino or just an showcase video

[hybrid matrix]

depends on wut u mean
i do agree on a video about keybinds, but wdym an "in-game tutorial on basic controls"

bc again, i dont want it to be like the minecraft tutorial where u play a tutorial version of the game

[cyan flame]

@hybrid matrixLike those small vids we had, but maybe as a playthrough. I don't see any issue with that, it should be optional obviously.

Or just a little vid in general that shows a dino doing all the basics + tells the controls

[hybrid matrix]

oh a video

ok

[cyan flame]

So you go "sniff" and it shows how scent works

[hybrid matrix]

i wasnt sure if u meant u play a tutorial version of the game

[cyan flame]

And drink/eat, whatever.. like those little notices we had on legacy sort of

Eh, I'd be fine with a tutorial version but it's probs not needed

[wintry monolith]

you get the option for a walk trough with first generic carnivore(utah) and then a walk trough with generic herbi (dryo)

[hybrid matrix]

yeah
imo this would make learning a little too easy

[wintry monolith]

and their controls and how to play carni and herbi

[hybrid matrix]

dude
clarify if u mean a tutorial version of the game, or some videos like what erik said

[wintry monolith]

mabey have an walk trough for every dino or just an showcase video

[wintry monolith]

i was a bit un clear and distracted

was on the look out for any pesky utahs attacking me at south pond when i was reganing stam at south pond

[cyan flame]

@hybrid matrixI don't think that's part of learning the game honestly. To me it's more about learning how to play in the game, rather than just knowing what button to press and what scent looks like and stuff like that. :p

[hybrid matrix]

my idea is that u get told the controls, grow times, and (maybe) the abilities of each dino
then, u play the game and u learn on ur own

[swift dew]

I think the tutorial should be: wasd to move. left click for basic attack. right click for different, often a special attack. hold alt+lmb/rmb for more attacks, not all animals have this. then it should say h to rest, says what resting does, and then hold h to sleep and says sleeping safelogs. then it says hold q to sniff an then tells you what each color means. then it goes into humans and does their unique controls. it doesn't even need to tell you to hold e to drink or eat because there are prompts for that

[wintry monolith]

yeah the controls need and walk trough so you actauly use them not just hear punch or who ever tell you about them and then you forget because you dident use them

[cyan flame]

I think growth times/stuff like that should be in a dossier you can look up at any time, same with any mechanic and all that. Game info should be available. The vid should be for controls/showing how things look, such as scent and stuff.

[hybrid matrix]

every single control in this game is here for a reason
u should be using them often (except for the calls)
if u forget them, thats ur problem

[hybrid matrix]

alright
ima make a suggestion on this

[wintry monolith]

i mean that your first time in the game you never get to use them somebody just tells you them youll not get the connection you get when you get to try it and realy use it

[hybrid matrix]

posted the suggestion

[urban flax]

Derp I've once thought of something else for a tutorial

And I think it's already been suggested too

The first time you encounter something, you get a little chat box that explains to you what's happening

Like "A blood icon has appeared on the side of your stamina bar, it means that your dinosaur is bleeding. Your blood pool will deplete with time, and even faster if you move. You need to wallow in mud to cover the wounds and rest to heal them up."

[hybrid matrix]

thats interesting

[golden beacon]

I think my suggestion will be good for small juvies/hatchlings, if you havent seen my suggestion scroll up a little

[urban flax]

Making your own advertising

But I've already read and reacted to your suggestion tho

[hybrid matrix]

isnt that the whole point of advertising tho?

[golden beacon]

[urban flax]

The idea seems good, but I'm worried it might make it too easy for carni juvies or make beaches the go-to place whatever your species

[hybrid matrix]

yeah...

unless what if there's no drinkable water?

[golden beacon]

Well its small fish so they wont give too much food and give nothing to adults

[hybrid matrix]

if that were the case then u'd have food but no water

[urban flax]

It's much harder to find food as a juvie than water anyway

[hybrid matrix]

true

[urban flax]

To find water you only have to run for some time, finding food requires extreme planification or luck

[golden beacon]

I mean you can spawn south and theres your water

[hybrid matrix]

u gotta hope u find a friendly adult, a stupid juvie, a juvie thats smaller than u, or an already dead body

[carmine path]

Self-Advertising 🤮

[urban flax]

And if they wanna the map any more realistic, there's gonna be water on beaches

[golden beacon]

[urban flax]

Cause every river goes to the sea, and river water is drinkable (for dinos at least)

[hybrid matrix]

true

but what about the salt

[urban flax]

There's no salt in rivers

[hybrid matrix]

even in mangroves the water is salty

[urban flax]

Because of the stream

Mangroves are a different thing

[hybrid matrix]

oh i didnt kno that

[carmine path]

Brackish Water you mean?

[urban flax]

They're not made of flowing water

[hybrid matrix]

if thats the middleground between sea water and fresh water then yes

[carmine path]

Yes

[hybrid matrix]

ok

well

ima go

fun talkin about this

[carmine path]

[hybrid matrix]

bye

[urban flax]

bye derp

[carmine path]

Good bye

[golden beacon]

bye

Cant wait for new dinos, anyone else?

[solar latch]

https://tenor.com/view/allosaurus-fighting-sauropod-dinosaurs-bite-gif-17281663

I want allo and diplo

[urban flax]

I'm hyped but I can wait

[golden beacon]

yeah well no diplo ;-;

Apato better

[solar latch]

is it tho

[urban flax]

They're basically the same thing

[carmine path]

🦕 Apatosaurus 🦕

[golden beacon]

i think diplo was bigger

[swift dew]

yes I know you guys were just talking about self advertising but does anybody want to talk about my map suggestion I need something to do

[golden beacon]

[urban flax]

I don't talk about map suggestions

[solar latch]

what was ur suggestion

[swift dew]

its in #general-feedback just scroll up a little

[golden beacon]

i reacted with everything lol

[swift dew]

are there any other interesting map ideas?

that you might have

[golden beacon]

cave systems

[urban flax]

This is why I don't talk about map suggestions

[swift dew]

but arent that significant

[carmine path]

Link it and I will maybe click on it out of curiosity

[golden beacon]

.

[solar latch]

o that one

I like basically all of those ideas

idk abt the airport tho

might be good might be cancerous

[swift dew]

#general-feedback message

[carmine path]

Also what is Cherry the CD dino? Like the actual name of the dino

[golden beacon]

so i saw this suggestion a while back and its about the giant rocky cliffs, what if they had a path going up to them and there could be a little pond and a little nesting area for some things

[urban flax]

Deinocheirus

[carmine path]

That fugly looking bootleg sucho?

[solar latch]

[urban flax]

No
That beautiful bipedal giant platypus

[swift dew]

[carmine path]

I’d honestly have a stroke if that hunchback of a creature is the CD dino

[solar latch]

https://tenor.com/view/platypus-run-wiggle-funny-gif-4823281

[golden beacon]

[urban flax]

Would you prefer pelagornis ?

[golden beacon]

i wanna play plateo idk seems like a cool dino thats likes tea

[swift dew]

i prefer cheirus, but yes. I want pelagornis more because it pisses more people off

[carmine path]

I don’t really like the CD tbh... all of them have uninteresting features to me

[urban flax]

What are the options for CD already ?

[swift dew]

so your saying you want tarbosaurus

[golden beacon]

[carmine path]

You mean T-Rex clone?

[swift dew]

alright back to actual feedback talk... uhhh lakes, we need lakes. lakes are good. end of conversation.

[ashen wasp]

-Deinocheirus
-Deinocheirus
-Deinocheirus
-Deinocheirus
-Deinocheirus

[golden beacon]

ok good discussion

[urban flax]

ty

[ashen wasp]

ofc

[urban flax]

I like Deinocheirus

[carmine path]

Down with the Cherry Train

[golden beacon]

nah

[urban flax]

You can't tell me what I like or not

[solar latch]

l a k e s

https://tenor.com/view/splash-swimming-water-lake-swim-gif-5594221

[carmine path]

No CD convo

Cherry look like a Flamingo took roids

[uneven wigeon]

Lakes would make a big splash in Evrima... I'll see myself out now.

[solar latch]

[honest sparrow]

Tupan or big Ig for cd

[daring nacelle]

Suggestion:
little monkey: able to climb cliffs and large trees. and throw small handfuls of soil that blinds the enemy.

gorilla: phenomenal and ferocious strength. he is able to lift / throw these enemies why not even give them a severe bite in the process.

snake: it slips silently climbs the steepest walls with little damage but very poisonous.

three dino that require different gameplay and should be fun to play.

[vestal rune]

do you mean a literal monkey or gorilla or just a dino similar to that

[urban flax]

I was wondering the same thing

[left nacelle]

Herrera and Hypsi fit the "monkey" playstyle. And Titanoboa fits the snake playstyle (even tho it isn't venomous)

[lapis tree]

@novel turtle we don’t need anymore semi-aquatic predators since we already have Deino and like 3 others coming to the game

[odd sedge]

@novel turtle
We don't need more aquatic fauna, we have enough with

• Deino
• Spino
• Sucho
• Bary
• Beipi
• Austro
• (Cherry. Not confirmed but heavily favoured by the community)

[urban flax]

And minmi

[swift dew]

minmi

[left nacelle]

Plus The Isle's Deino is already the size of irl Purusaurus

[novel turtle]

ya ik thats why i put a turtle

[lapis tree]

Yeah and minmi

[left nacelle]

The turtle would just be boring gameplay and would be destroyed by deino and spino

[lapis tree]

Make turtle an ai in swamps

[swift dew]

yeah, that is an undersize. our deino size is on the very low end of estimates. we could have gotten a 14 ton deino and it would be accurate

[novel turtle]

whats a cherry

[left nacelle]

Deinocheirus

[novel turtle]

never heard of that one

[left nacelle]

You sure? In game deino is around the same size as this puru, if not larger

[odd sedge]

A semi aquatic, swamp dwelling omnivore-apex

[novel turtle]

but what is the real name

[lapis tree]

A large bipedal duck billed dinosaur from Asia with some weird arms

[odd sedge]

Deinocheirus

[left nacelle]

I just said it, Deinocheirus

[novel turtle]

oh that

i saw deinosuchus

sorry

[left nacelle]

You're good. I do that all the time lol

[swift dew]

that is outdated. deino is much bigger now

[left nacelle]

I assume you mean Puru, but either way, puru doesn't need to be added

[odd sedge]

We already got a Deino, Thats why our big Bird has the name 🍒

[swift dew]

no I mean deino, deino max estimates are much bigger than puru max estimates. anway

[left nacelle]

Oooh so you're saying the irl deino is now much larger than puru?

I was talking about in game deino

[swift dew]

yeah, our deino is about the size of a puru

[icy lion]

last i heard filipe mentioned our deino was 11.5m

[swift dew]

anyway, back to feedback stuff

[icy lion]

not sure if thats still true

[left nacelle]

But yeah that kinda shows that puru is unnecessary right now

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr

I would rather not pay for something thats always been free

not even sure why you would want that, otherwise its a fine idea

Im in favor of adding more options but making them more realistic

You shouldn’t have to pay for them

eh no

I just dislike the idea

also it limits player customization

I would like randomized skins though

set of like 100 skins/patterns for each dino

made by the community and approved by the devs

Agreed

albinos can be a rare skin

because IRL albinos do exist

but seeing a squad of albino utahs is pretty immersion breaking

[novel turtle]

i like the idea i remember when the skin system came out and there was a ton of people making very different skins that it made the isle lose its taste due to how different everyone was

i still would like some difference though

[left nacelle]

iirc the devs used an albino skins as an example of a punishment you might get for not following your dinos needs. So if you don't follow your diet for example, you might slowly become albino, making you stick out like a sore thumb

That was back when the affinity system was planned tho

[barren zephyr]

that would suck imo

hopefully its canned

I would like more immersive punishments

[left nacelle]

That kinda is an immersive punishment

[barren zephyr]

Like a carno who didnt follow his diet having small horns

[barren zephyr]

monitor lizards dont turn white cus they ate stuff they didnt like

[left nacelle]

I don't think you'd become albino for not following your diet, but probably for something else. If it wasn't canned that is. I feel like I remember it being mentioned more recently too

[barren zephyr]

things simply looking like they didnt get enough nutrition makes more sense

[left nacelle]

But monitor lizards aren't genetically modified mutant animals

[barren zephyr]

I mean yeah, and?

I mean whats cooler, a canro who didnt follow his diet having small horns

or a carno who didnt follow his diet turning…. white

also its too much of a punishment

[left nacelle]

My point is, there could easily be a lore reason for dinos becoming albino. And again, I'm not saying not following your diet would turn you albino, I'm just saying it could be a punishment for something. It wouldn't make you weaker or anything, it would just make the game more difficult

[barren zephyr]

it would look silly

[left nacelle]

Cause that was originally an idea for the affinity system, which kinda evolved into the diet system and a couple other systems. Back when the affinity system was planned, you would've had to go out of your way to not follow the system, which made albinism a more fitting punishment

[barren zephyr]

But that isnt the case now

[left nacelle]

It wouldn't tho. I lived my life wrong so I lost the pigment in my skin/feathers. Makes sense to me

Exactly, it isn't the case now, which is why it shouldn't be linked to diets

[barren zephyr]

lived life wrong?

how?

Meat is meat

[left nacelle]

It's an example, I'm not talking about diets at all

[barren zephyr]

why would a carno turn white cus he ate more tenos then dyros?

[left nacelle]

......

Dude, I'm not talking about diets

[barren zephyr]

they dont turn white because they didnt eat their targeted prey

[vestal rune]

predators target certain prey items because they are adapted to kill them, they'll accept any form of meat as long as it's not toxic or something

honestly I think albino dinos look shit and shouldn't be in the game

[barren zephyr]

Yeah, it doesn’t make sense

I can understand looking a bit malnourished

but turning white?

nah

[left nacelle]

And again, I'm not talking about diets. Albinism could be a punishment for doing something else wrong. Like afk growing or something. Something that you'd really have to fuck up to end up doing

[barren zephyr]

ark growing? thats also silly

just make them weak as shit and smaller

[vestal rune]

people would specifically try to get that punishment because people like albinism for some reason

[left nacelle]

If people like albinism, let them go for it. They'll just stick out like a sore thumb

It could be a clear indication of "Hey, I suck at the game. Eat me"

[paper oriole]

Asking to reduce player choice in favour of clone skins and paid dlc presets

[novel turtle]

i like the idea of clone skins in this game just not in dlc form

[barren zephyr]

Primal Carnage 2.0

[paper oriole]

As an option itd be cool but players should just be given a reasonable wheel of colours to pick from and not be forced to use presets

[left nacelle]

I like the idea of everyone being unique. I always hated buying a skin in a game and then seeing someone else with the same skin. Kinda ruins it for me

[barren zephyr]

^

[novel turtle]

because if there is so many people with very different skins then after the hype it just gets exhausting

[left nacelle]

Not.. really?

[novel turtle]

it did for me

[barren zephyr]

Would be cool if they did gradual "skin updates" and just add new skin patterns every now and then. I'd like that personally

[vestal rune]

I mean, I mostly care for the skin system because it allows you to distinguish between different individuals of the same species

[left nacelle]

Letting people make their owns skins allows you to see tons of unique skins and color combinations that you wouldn't have thought of

[barren zephyr]

Small updates, but I think it'd be neat

[novel turtle]

i dont mind like for deino it has an option of blacks greys and maybe some greens

[paper oriole]

Give players the freedom to make skins to their liking, give server owners the option to enable and disable certain customization options

[vestal rune]

like you could totally take out the name tag functionality and only show name tags while calling if you're able to tell individuals a part up close

[novel turtle]

no

dont

just dont

[vestal rune]

yes

please do

[novel turtle]

no

please dont

[vestal rune]

groups have too much power currently

[barren zephyr]

I don't like that

[left nacelle]

It just like being an individual. It's nice to before a ptera or something, and see them an hour later and be like "Oh it's the same ptera from before"

[novel turtle]

thats just the way grouping is but worse

[vestal rune]

how is it worse?

[left nacelle]

Yeah that's not a bad idea

[vestal rune]

disorganised groups will be punished, and it will give solo players a better chance of dealing with them

[novel turtle]

ya but i wouldn't like it to be like legacy with the amount of options.

[barren zephyr]

I see the appeal

[left nacelle]

I think Legacy's system was great. The colors just need to be more organized and there needs to be less whites and stuff

[barren zephyr]

l

aaa

[novel turtle]

yes i would love it like this

[paper oriole]

It should have more options than legacy even, adjustable by server owners

[barren zephyr]

I like legacys system, but modern and more customization which they're obviously going to add

[left nacelle]

That's likely what it'll be like since the devs have said they're gonna be adding more natural colors iirc

[novel turtle]

like take out the bright yellows and make white for belly only

[vestal rune]

I mean I don't think server owners should have the option to allow neon skins like in BoB, if they really want that they'll be able to mod it in

[paper oriole]

Server owners could choose if bright colours are available, which customizable skins are available, or if dinos have to choose from presets instead

Rather than making it super limited and boring for everyone

[novel turtle]

i can except that

[vestal rune]

server owners shouldn't have the option for bright base skins lol

inbuilt into the game that is

because neon dinos running around everywhere is clown shoes

[novel turtle]

i just really need more natural colors

[paper oriole]

Not that it makes much difference to me cus i cant see that shit anyway, but im sure a lot of people would be bored seeing just different shades of brown on every dino

[barren zephyr]

"Oh wow a new shade of green, wow that's awesome now I get to be a slightly different color."

[vestal rune]

I mean there'll probably be much more variety than in legacy, just less extreme shit like whites

[paper oriole]

Yellows, blues, purples, and reds can be snuck into natural skins in moderation i know that, just no neons

[vestal rune]

like some dark blues, purples, lighter greens

[barren zephyr]

I want crimsons, and other shades of red.

[novel turtle]

ya like with the males crest from legacy

[paper oriole]

Crests but also highlights in moderation, depending on dino

[novel turtle]

i would just like it so that you cant have a black rex a green rex a yellow rex a white rex all in the colors

[paper oriole]

Like it would be much more available to a troodon than an allo, or a hypsi than a camara

[novel turtle]

like give each creature a color then make it variations and a few outliers

[paper oriole]

Thats pretty boring

[novel turtle]

so that it doesn't get crazy like in legacy

[paper oriole]

If its a server owner option its fine but forcing everyone to be boring?

[hoary dawn]

did someone seriously just suggest skin microtransactions

[paper oriole]

Yep

[hoary dawn]

fucking

no

[paper oriole]

Removing customization and adding microtransactions, great idea right? Lmao

[hoary dawn]

the isle does not need microtransactions

of all games

[barren zephyr]

It'll be primal carnage, but survival

lol

If EA took the isle

[vestal rune]

ye only microtransactions the isle should ever have is the seperate dino species skins(idk if that even counts as microtransactions)

[paper oriole]

Some people just have a grudge against creativity for some reason

[novel turtle]

xD

[hoary dawn]

just limit the skin customization enough for nothing ridiculous to be made but for the love of god do not bring in microtransactions

[barren zephyr]

No micro transactions period

I can't stand games plagued with them

[paper oriole]

Yeah just make it so there's no neon purple barney rexes and bright blood red edgeraptors running around

[novel turtle]

pretty much

[paper oriole]

Dont make everyone dull brown and green only

[novel turtle]

i just dont want to run into an albino in every group im in

[paper oriole]

That aint how nature is

[novel turtle]

creatures with feathers should have brighter color options

not neon though

[paper oriole]

Actual melanistics, albinos and leucistics should have something to do with game mechanics like nesting and cannibalism, not creatable imo, but pale coloured dinos are fine

[hoary dawn]

as long as i dont have to pay 2-4 bucks for em

[paper oriole]

Maybe rare leucistic, piebald and melanistic skins can be related to parents' genes when nesting if genes are still planned

Like parents with shitty genes are more likely to produce the leucistic skin with worse genetics (no perks passed on)

[novel turtle]

i think that like 1 in 100 creatures spawn or nested (Not including if a parent is albino) should be able to have albino babies if the other parent also has this. Even then its a 1 in 4 chance for the babies to get it.

[vestal rune]

I thought of that, but the thing is people would just farm albinos

[paper oriole]

Their expense, they would be weaker, easier to see, easy targets

[vestal rune]

they'd birth and kill dozens of babies until they can get their snow-coloured dino

[paper oriole]

If they want the challenge its on them

[novel turtle]

i think it would just be super rare and easy to see.

[paper oriole]

Also if killing your own babies is punished in some other way it would be harder to do

[novel turtle]

Ik irl ones have it bad but its a game and i think people should be able to enjoy their albino

[paper oriole]

Killing your babies = worse gestation rates and incubation times

[novel turtle]

this is good

[hoary dawn]

I always kill my own

[paper oriole]

[novel turtle]

[paper oriole]

Oh wow somebody actually brought up the glorious pterodaustro in a suggestion

[vestal rune]

is pterodaustro the baleen pterosaur?

[novel turtle]

yes

[paper oriole]

He's the toothbrush face

[vestal rune]

bad playable, too small, boring feeding mechanism, basically just a small ptera

[paper oriole]

He's cute but yeah he might be too small